[04:40] <jrock2004> Installed nvidia current. nvidia-xconfig. Checked xorg.conf and its says to use nvidia. rebooted and did sudo nvidia-settings and it told me I was not using nvidia
[04:41] <jrock2004> lsmod | grep nvidia shows the module is loaded
[04:42] <jrock2004> thoughts?
[06:30] <rogerhc> Hi, how can I disable or delete the Guest login account in Xubuntu 13.10?
[06:31] <Unit193> Add allow-guest=false to /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[06:31] <rogerhc> Thanks!
[06:32] <Unit193> Sure.
[12:19] <lennard_> hello
[12:21] <lennard_> can someone help me? my live usb stick isnt starting up it always says: "xubuntu gfxboot.c32 not a com32R image" and if im trying to trying to boot with this solution: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1964207 it gives me a Blackscreen
[12:23] <cfhowlett> lennard_, sounds like a nomodeset issue
[12:23] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset
[12:23] <lennard_> nomodeset?
[12:24] <lennard_> ok
[12:31] <lennard_> ok gonna give it a try
[12:35] <xubuntu> hello
[12:35] <xubuntu> im lennard_
[12:35] <xubuntu> it worked fine thx
[12:36] <Guest15356> hello
[12:36] <Guest15356> im lennard_
[12:36] <Guest15356> it worked fine thx
[12:45] <xubuntu623> i installed xubuntu 12.04 and it doesnt detect lan, any advice?
[12:48] <cfhowlett> xubuntu623, turn off and turn on networking to force recycle.  check the plugs.  check the cable
[12:48] <ObrienDave> check the router
[12:52] <xubuntu623> it all works here on winxp
[12:52] <xubuntu623> and used to work on some other xubuntu that i installed on other comp
[12:55] <cfhowlett> xubuntu623, I had a similar situation with mine.  I don't know what setting I messed with but one day ... no ethernet.  A few months later, POOF!  It came back.  Wish I could tell you exactly what/where/how but I don't know how I broke it or fixed it.
[14:24] <m1chael> when i plug in an external USB drive to my xubuntu 13.10, the desktop freezes for about 5 minutes... during this time, nothing is clickable on the desktop, but all apps, internet, all work fine... any ideas on this?
[15:00] <holstein> m1chael: i would look for and apply all upgrades, reboot if there is a kernel upgrade.. i would test the usb stick on other machines.. i would load up a live CD of anything other than ubuntu 13.10 and test on the same hardware. i would try and tail some log messages in TTY
[15:03] <junKa> I missed the question
[15:03] <junKa> plz c/p cause i face a similar problem
[15:04] <holstein> junKa: this is the question m1chael has posted 09:24 < m1chael> when i plug in an external USB drive to my xubuntu 13.10, the desktop freezes for about 5 minutes... during  this time, nothing is clickable on the desktop, but all apps, internet, all work fine... any ideas on this?
[15:06] <junKa> I have a saucy kernel bug where the first time I plug my usb 3g modem is is not recognized. I have to unplug and plug again for it to work.
[15:07] <GridCube> m1chael, is this freeze the first time you boot the computer, ie. you have not opened thunar yet?
[15:08] <holstein> junKa: i have seen that with usb networking devices.. is it a bug? or is it that the device is not supporting linux?
[15:08] <junKa> My usb modem worked perfectly with every previous releases and spins
[15:09] <junKa> I believe it has something to do with the saucy kernel
[15:09] <holstein> junKa: 12.04 is still supported
[15:10] <junKa> holstein, my usb works alright. It just not being recognized the first tiime I plug it in. I have to replug it to get to work which is kinda annoying
[15:12] <holstein> junKa: and, ideally, the device manufacturer would gurantee you support for the latest linux kernels.. but, that might not be the case, so you may have to work around some issues
[15:16] <junKa> Saucy also has memory leaks
[15:17] <junKa> the xubuntu at least not sure for others
[15:17] <holstein> junKa: the kernel is the same.. the sources as well..
[15:18] <holstein> junKa: could be certain applications are problematic
[16:19] <xubuntu069> Hello everyone, trying to get tor working and it says something on their site about about quantal, editing source lists and bla bla but I already installed it from the software center, just want it to run
[16:20] <ObrienDave> tor is in the repos?
[16:21] <xubuntu069> Whats that? Ive had xubuntu 12.10 for two days now
[16:24] <ObrienDave> ummm, that is NOT a good way to run tor
[16:28] <slickymaster> xubuntu069: please take a look at this http://www.webupd8.org/2013/12/ppa-updates-tor-browser-bundle-35.html?utm_source=chrome&utm_medium=popup&utm_campaign=chromeext
[16:39] <holstein> !tor
[16:39] <holstein> ObrienDave: ^
[16:40] <holstein> actually, i suppose that should be for xubuntu069
[16:40] <ObrienDave> yes, i am aware ;P
[16:40] <ObrienDave> LOL he seems to have *poofed*
[16:41] <xubuntu069> Yeah Ive tried that but problem is I know jack of linux and ubuntu, I dont know how to edit my source file etc
[16:41] <holstein> xubuntu069: its in the repos.. you dont need to edit the sources
[16:42] <ObrienDave> actually, if you want to run tor, I suggest looking into T.A.I.L.S.
[16:42] <holstein> xubuntu069: i suggest getting a live CD that might include tor already configured.. or just give yourself a bit more time to get used to the OS before trying to do advanced things.. or set something up similarly on the network side
[16:42] <holstein> tails is a live cd such as i suggested.. that, AFAIK, works well
[16:42]  * holstein +1 on tails live CD
[16:42] <xubuntu069> So any usb tails works on any OS?
[16:43] <holstein> xubuntu069: its not for an os.. its for the machine.. live, just like the xubuntu installer
[16:43] <ObrienDave> it is a stand-alone distro
[16:43] <holstein> xubuntu069: it will run without a hard drive in the machine.. with nothing to do with the OS that is installed
[16:43] <xubuntu069> Sweet
[16:43] <ObrienDave> you install it to a USB and run it from there
[16:44] <xubuntu069> Yeah ive read about it, seems less of a hassle until Ive learned more about ubuntu
[16:45] <ObrienDave> you installed ubuntu, right? tails is almost as easy
[16:46] <ObrienDave> d/l the ISO, burn to DVD, boot DVD, Install to USB stick, reboot, configure persistence
[16:46] <ObrienDave> easy peasy
[16:47] <xubuntu069> Alright, downloading it now, almost 1gig, is the entire tor network in there or something lol
[16:48] <Artemis3> hmm i would skip the dvd part :)
[16:49] <ObrienDave> that's the easiest way for someone so new to Linux
[16:50] <Artemis3> there is a windows proggie to put isos into usb sticks including unetboot in, can't be easier (in fact burning might fail, or they do the typical copy .iso into disc mistake)
[16:51] <Poisoned_Dragon> I've gotten spoiled with using dd with hybrid ISOs.
[16:52]  * ObrienDave has never had good luck going from USB to USB install
[16:52] <holstein> i have had no issues installing from a source to a destination.. even if both are USB
[16:52] <Artemis3> yes, that often works, there is even a windows dd thingie, but i found some machines actually need unetbootin for some reason
[16:53] <Poisoned_Dragon> I managed a couple of usb to usb installs.
[16:53] <Artemis3> and in a few cases, unetbootin would fail but dd worked, its crazy enough (with older machines)
[16:54] <Poisoned_Dragon> On my eeepc 701, I have Linux Mint on a 16gb stick, and backbox on an 8gb SD card.
[16:54] <Artemis3> i have bodhi on mine for whatever reason, heh, it works. whats the use of backbox when you can just put the ppa and install all the programs?
[16:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> I don't like using E17. But, that DE is really stupid fast.
[16:56] <Poisoned_Dragon> probably the only strike against bodhi.
[16:56] <Artemis3> and small, mine has 4g you know...
[16:56] <Artemis3> bodhi takes like 2g of space
[16:56] <Poisoned_Dragon> Yeah, my eeepc only has a 4gb ssd. Hence the usb stick and SD card
[16:56] <Poisoned_Dragon> 3
[16:56] <Poisoned_Dragon> I've tried. It's 3gb max.
[16:56] <Artemis3> i also use a sd card but its for bulk data
[16:57] <Artemis3> im sure it was like 2.5 tops last time, could have grown later
[16:57] <Artemis3> the sd can be used for things like those annoying dictionaries
[16:57] <Poisoned_Dragon> heh
[18:14] <xubuntu383> hello
[18:14] <xubuntu383> can someone help me out?
[18:15] <holstein> xubuntu383: just ask, and see
[18:17] <xubuntu383> i am trying to install xubuntu, when the installation starts it gives me a notification that i am  offline, and the installation freeses
[18:17] <xubuntu383> i have tried the 12.04 and 13.10 amd64.iso
[18:17] <holstein> xubuntu383: i go to "try live", and see that the desktop is loading.. then, i install without installing any additional packages or codecs
[18:18] <xubuntu383> i only have this problem on this motherboard
[18:18] <xubuntu383> ok
[18:18] <holstein> xubuntu383: in all the "do you want to download extra" questions, i untick, or say no
[18:18] <xubuntu383> ik will try that
[18:22] <xubuntu383> xubuntu live also freezes
[18:22] <poeticrpm> how do you get notify-send to work with a command? I can notify-send 'Hello World' and it will popup fine, but what of commands? Im trying to do xbacklight -get and I cant seem to pin the syntax
[18:22] <holstein> xubuntu383: is the issue something is freezing?
[18:23] <holstein> !nomodeset | xubuntu383
[18:23] <holstein> xubuntu383: you can try that from the live CD and see if that helps
[18:23] <poeticrpm> ive tried this: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/12/ubuntu-notify-send/ but it doesnt seem to work
[18:24] <holstein> poeticrpm: when i do "notify-send something", something is printed. what are you trying to have printed?
[18:25] <poeticrpm> holstein: by 'something' do you just mean a word? say I try: notify-send uname -a
[18:25] <poeticrpm> it just says missing argument with -a
[18:26] <holstein> poeticrpm: notify-send "uname -a" prints literally "uname -a"
[18:26] <holstein> poeticrpm: but, if you are trying to get it to print kernel info, thats not a problem with notify-send
[18:27] <poeticrpm> holstein: yeah, trying to get a commands output. I used uname -a as an example. Im trying to actually get: xbacklight -get
[18:28] <poeticrpm> xbacklight -get returns 100.00000, but notify-send xbacklight -get returns "unknown option -get"
[18:30] <holstein> poeticrpm: this should get you started http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/tech-tip-get-notifications-your-scripts-notify-send
[18:31] <poeticrpm> holstein: thanks
[18:33] <esph> Did my previous message go through? I D/C'd right after.
[18:36] <holstein> esph: i see no messages from you in the scroll back
[18:41] <poeticrpm> holstein: must be an issue on my system. When I run the uptime example I just get 'uptime' as the printout under the title. Least I know its the computer
[18:41] <holstein> poeticrpm: well, you can start looking in the proper place, instead of troubleshooting like its a notify-send bug as well
[18:42] <poeticrpm> yeag
[18:43] <poeticrpm> yeah*
[18:44] <esph> holstein: Thanks. Guess I'll try again
[18:44] <esph> I've got a Lenovo U510, and Pulseaudio doesn't recognize the built-in mic. I've found a solution online that involves getting rid of Pulseaudio entirely, but that isn't ideal. So, any other ideas?
[18:45] <holstein> poeticrpm: i made it a little further with http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1411620 actually
[18:45] <xubuntu383> holstein: i disabled intel rapid start and XHCI in the bios and now the installation seems to be working
[18:46] <xubuntu383> it only gave me a message about MSDOS GPT table
[18:46] <xubuntu383> thanks
[18:46] <holstein> poeticrpm: yeah, {notify-send LINUX "`uname -a`"} (witouth the {}'s of course) prints uname -a
[18:47] <holstein> esph: the device will be supported, or not.. its not an issue of isolating the internal mic
[18:47] <holstein> esph: i would install, apply all upgrades.. reboot, and try using "pavucontrol"
[18:47] <holstein> !info pavucontrol
[18:48] <xubuntu383> now grub failed to install
[18:48] <holstein> xubuntu383: if you have custom partitioning, that could be likely
[18:49] <xubuntu383> can i fix that by formatting?
[18:49] <holstein> xubuntu383: if you are new to linux, i suggest sticking as much to defaul as possible.. if you want to try to install grub now to the installation where grub has failed, try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[18:49] <poeticrpm> holstein, yeah, the only command I can get to work right is tail. I could just create a 50mb filesystem in ram, have a script touch a screen brightness file in it, then have my keyboard shortcut print the results to the file and tail that file with notify-send, but im looking for a more elegant solution
[18:49] <poeticrpm> haha
[18:51] <esph> holstein: I've got pavucontrol already. As far as the device being supported, do you mean by linux, or by Pulse? Various sources say that it's supported in linux, so it seems that Pulse is the problem for me.
[18:51] <holstein> esph: i dont agree. you are assuming pulse is the issue, and there are many other tests still to do
[18:52] <holstein> esph: when running pavucontrol, you get the software in quesiton running, then you go into pavucontrol, and try to connect the devices
[18:52] <holstein> esph: you will either see the mic or not.. i also dont trust *any* labels.. i try and connect *all* possible connections
[18:53] <holstein> esph: the support im referencing is alsa specifically.. you can see the ouput of what alsa is "seeing" by running "aplay -l" and/or "arecord -l" in a terminal
[18:54] <holstein> !audio | esph
[18:54] <esph> holstein: There are no available mics other than the internal monitor. Should I try that too? It seems extremely unlikely for that to be it.
[18:55] <holstein> esph: yes.. try *everything* trusting no labels
[18:55] <holstein> esph: it is actually extremely likely for things to be mislabeled... since the device vendor likely doesnt supply alsa with information about how to communicate with the device
[19:08] <esph> holstein: Alright, so the monitor was actually just a monitor. And alsa is definitely seeing things, but how do I know if they're the right things?
[19:10] <holstein> esph: i troubleshoot til i get the results i want.. try different settings everywhere.. AFAIK, lubuntu still doesnt ship with pulse, so you can fire up a lubuntu live CD and see if pulse is the issue
[19:11] <holstein> esph: you need to have the software running.. what are you trying to do?
[19:12] <holstein> esph: what would i do? open something like audacity or a capture application that i know well and that is supported well by linux and in the default repos, and get it running, then look in pavucontrol
[19:12] <holstein> esph: i would then plug each capture device and track down what it is, and how to use it
[19:12] <holstein> esph: is this an issue with the bios config? is it working with a microphone plugged in to any jack? etc..
[19:13] <esph> holstein: Like I said in the initial question, this is a built-in mic.
[19:13] <holstein> esph: sure.. try another one
[19:14] <holstein> esph: the folks directly responsible for providing you the support you need are not going to be able to, so, its really up to you to actively troubleshoot
[19:14] <esph> You're throwing things at me pretty fast now actually, lol. I'll get back to you when I've tried some of them.
[19:15] <esph> Thanks for offering so many suggestions
[19:15] <holstein> sure.. its challenging, for sure.. or can be..
[19:53] <rogerhc> Hi, I'm going to test install the Nvidia driver for my Nvidia GeForce GTX 645 video card on a Xububtu 13.10 fresh install. Default driver, nouveau, is working but not playing Minecraft as well as it might. Think I will try Settings > Additional Drivers > nvidia-319-updates, as Nvidia's website says that driver supports my GeForce GTX 645 video card. Any advice before I dive in?
[19:53] <holstein> other than knowing how to revert.. go for it
[19:54] <rogerhc> holstein, exactly my thought... how would I revert?
[19:55] <holstein> rogerhc: i always keep reinstallation and complete failure as option
[19:55] <holstein> rogerhc: i would try to get to TTY, or the recovery kernel.. or use an xorg.conf, or remove an xorg.conf
[19:58] <rogerhc> This is a fresh install of Xubuntu 13.10 and I have the live DVD on hand. Nothing to lose but some time... here goes... (I'm in IRC on my laptop and doing the test on my desktop)
[19:58] <holstein> rogerhc: sounds like a great place to start from
[20:16] <rogerhc> holstein, after I click "Apply Changes" for Settings > Additional Drivers > nvidia-319-updates, should I do anything before I restart? Do I have to make a xorg.conf are something first?
[20:17] <holstein> rogerhc: i dont think so..
[20:17] <rogerhc> okay, I'll try the restart
[20:22] <rogerhc> oops, I rebooted and after grub I get only test colors cycling on the monitor. How can I undo what I did?
[20:23] <holstein> rogerhc: i would try the recovery kernel
[20:24] <rogerhc> holstein, to try the recovery kernel, do I reboot and select it with grub?
[20:24] <holstein> rogerhc: correct
[20:25] <holstein> rogerhc: or, try TTY from the login or before it
[20:28] <rogerhc> so I reboot and select "recovery mode" in grub menu, right?
[20:28] <holstein> rogerhc: the tty method might work. the recovery kernel gives you that.. a recovery prompt
[20:29] <holstein> rogerhc: in the grub menu, which, either in preperation for potential problems you unhid or, you will show now with the shift key at boot
[20:31] <rogerhc> Interesting! My grub menu comes up automatically on startup. Is that not normal Xubuntu 13.10 behavior?
[20:31] <holstein> rogerhc: normal all depends on your configuration
[20:32] <holstein> if youa re asking "is something wrong?", nothing you have said makes me think anything is wrong
[20:32] <rogerhc> I did not configure it that I know of but just maybe a prior Debian 7.2 install configured it?
[20:32] <octetcloud> my laptop volume control stopped working in the last couple days after an xubuntu update, anybody else seen this?
[20:32] <holstein> rogerhc: i dont know your system.. but, if you are dual booting.. or who knows why
[20:33] <octetcloud> both the laptop keys no longer work, as well as the xubuntu volume control indictator plugin in the titlebar
[20:33] <holstein> octetcloud: i have seen things like that in the past. i would troubleshoot by trying as a different user.. if you think it was an upate, try booting the older kernel in the grub list
[20:34] <holstein> octetcloud: i would look in pavucontrol and in alsamixer in the terminal for a simple mute issue
[20:34] <octetcloud> ok, if it works as a different user, any suggestions?
[20:34] <rogerhc> Yes, I have dual boot setup with Windows 8 and a couple Linux distros
[20:34] <holstein> octetcloud: yes, i will have some
[20:35] <holstein> rogerhc: so, thats the simple explanation then
[20:39] <octetcloud> holstein: pavucontrol works, I can adjust the volume (it wasn't muted, it was just too low)
[20:40] <rogerhc> holstein, I rebooted in "recovery mode" and got a menu from which I selected "resume normal boot". That booted me into a monitor color test again. Any tips how to undo the video driver selection I did with Settings > Additional Drivers? Or what may have gone wrong?
[20:40] <holstein> octetcloud: cheers!
[20:40] <octetcloud> so, I have a workaround, but I'd like to be able to use the widget and the keyboard...
[20:40] <holstein> rogerhc: resuming normal boot will resume into the problem
[20:40] <holstein> rogerhc: you can try tty
[20:40] <holstein> !tty
[20:40] <holstein> rogerhc: or, te recovery console.. where, you will manually remove the driver and try again
[20:41] <holstein> octetcloud: not sure about the widget.. and the keyboard control
[20:43] <octetcloud> holstein: ok, too bad. but thanks for making my laptop not a brick! I do a lot of video/audio conf for work... it was going to be a dealbreaker for me
[20:44] <holstein> octetcloud: you can try the older kernel trick..
[20:44] <octetcloud> anybody know how to quickly change display output configuration? I have to run settings manager, scroll down to display, and enable/disable my miniDVI output every time after/before I hook the laptop up to my monitor... pretty slow
[20:44] <rogerhc> Hm, I did Ctrl + Alt + F1 and logged in as my user, the initial user with sudoer rights. How can I get back to the neoveau video driver?
[20:45] <holstein> octetcloud:  i use arandr.. but its manual like that..
[20:45] <octetcloud> holstein: i'll try the kernel. its a bit bemusing, because I wouldn't expect the kernel to effect the indicator widget. but when in the land of bugs... anything is possible
[20:45] <holstein> rogerhc: you will undo whatever you did.. removing the driver you installed
[20:45] <holstein> !ati | rogerhc
[20:47] <octetcloud> holstein: arandr? where do I get? is it equivalent to directly running xfce4-display-settings?
[20:47] <holstein> !info arandr
[20:47] <holstein> its in the repos.. its similar to the other tool if its working for you
[20:48] <holstein> octetcloud: sometimes there are keyboard shortcuts which do this with the bios.. but those may not be working for you
[20:50] <octetcloud> holstein: ok, just found, thanks. yes, similar.
[20:59] <esph> holstein: Well, after a bunch of messing around, I've been able to confirm that it works, but I can't get the volume to a useable level outside of Audacity, no matter how high I put the volume in pavucontrol and alsamixer. Do you know how it could be so much louder in Audacity than in other programs?
[20:59] <esph> It's even quiet in pavucontrol. Sounds barely register on the meter if I have it all the way up.
[20:59] <holstein> esph: what program? i mean, the device works if it works with audacity.. you can move on from "how do i make my mic work?" and look directly at said application, such as skype or whatever
[21:00] <esph> It doesn't work in skype or pavucontrol. I'd guess there might be related, since Skype uses Pulse for its audio
[21:01] <esph> these might be*
[21:01] <holstein> esph: where does it work then?
[21:02] <esph> Just in Audacity. For clarity: if I tap forcefully directly on the mic, it barely registers in Pavucontrol, and I can barely hear it in Skype.
[21:02] <holstein> esph: then, maybe you need to open, in the terminal "alsamixer", and again, trust *no* labels
[21:02] <holstein> esph: what i would be looking for is "micboost", though, i would tweak *everything* there
[21:03] <esph> Like I said, I've already tried turning things up in alsamixer. I guess I'll go through it again.
[21:03] <holstein> esph: you will be looking for a way to boost the level of the microphone. you will be doing this independent of any applicaton, and system wide
[21:03] <esph> Too bad I can't look at what Audacity is doing :/
[21:03] <holstein> esph: turning *all* things up in alsamixer? after pressing F5 to show all?
[21:04] <holstein> esph: you can look at what everything is doing.. audacity is grabbing the mic input
[21:04] <holstein> esph: could also be that mic boost is needed, but not supported by your device in linux
[21:05] <esph> Well, Skype, pavucontrol, and Audacity are all grabbing the mic input. It's only at a useable volume in Audacity though.
[21:05] <holstein> esph: ok.. so then, it *can* be made a useable level then.. pavucontrol is just for routing.. and level controls.. there are many sliders in there for you to try
[21:06] <holstein> esph: test with something frome the default repos.. not skype
[21:07] <nyRednek> if one is running precise, and wants to upgrade to saucy, need one update through each version?
[21:08] <holstein> nyRednek: thats the only way i know.. a fresh install is always preferred
[21:08] <nyRednek> i meant through the version upgrade utility
[21:09] <holstein> nyRednek: correct.. through that upgrade utility.. 12.04 to 12.10 to 13.04 to 13.10
[21:09] <holstein> nyRednek: if you wait, you can go 12.04 to 14.04
[21:09] <nyRednek> but if i waited for 14.04, the thing would just update from LTS to LTS
[21:10] <nyRednek> holstein: i'm having video issues...they never bothered me before, but they are starting to bother me now
[21:10] <nyRednek> holstein: it's directly related to the kernel version used in precise
[21:11] <holstein> nyRednek: then, use an older version.. sounds like it used to not bother you
[21:11] <holstein> should be many older ones in the grub menu
[21:12] <nyRednek> holstein: it always existed, but for a while, i didn't care
[21:12] <nyRednek> from the initial release of precise...
[21:12] <nyRednek> i think it last worked correctly on 10.04?
[21:12] <nyRednek> i've been using LTS for a while
[21:12] <holstein> nyRednek: i would have to have the hardware in front of me to confirm or agree with that
[21:13] <nyRednek> intel cedar bridge
[21:13] <nyRednek> with the 2.6 kernel, worked fine
[21:13] <nyRednek> the 3.2 kernel, not so much
[21:13] <holstein> nyRednek: try something live and see if it matters
[21:14] <holstein> no reason to assume 13.10 will be better
[21:14] <nyRednek> it was better on suse(different partition)
[21:15] <holstein> the partition difference is irrelevant
[21:15] <nyRednek> yeah, i know
[21:15] <nyRednek> suse had 3.5, i think
[21:15] <holstein> i would try a live CD for whatever you intend to use.. maybe even 12.04 as well, to remove your current installation from the equation
[21:16] <holstein> nyRednek: all the kernels have access to the same intel drivers
[21:16] <holstein> nyRednek: its easy to try 13.10 live.. and whatever reason makes you want to upgrade rather than a fresh install is a bad idea
[21:16] <nyRednek> holstein: maybe so, but cedar bridge wasn't a normal intel
[21:17] <holstein> nyRednek: you should have backups, and this would be a great time to get them in order
[21:17] <holstein> nyRednek: intel is intel.. intel is typically well supported.. intel provides the drivers to linux.. not just suse
[21:17] <nyRednek> holstein: i keep my /home separate from my installagion
[21:17] <holstein> nyRednek: which might be a good reason to try 12.04 live, to remove that from the equation
[21:18] <holstein> a seperate /home is no safer either
[21:18] <nyRednek> holstein: has same issues with full screen video
[21:18] <holstein> nyRednek: ok
[21:18] <nyRednek> where 13.10 doesn't
[21:18] <holstein> nyRednek: whatever your issues are. you can test with 13.10 live
[21:18] <nyRednek> already done this
[21:18] <holstein> nyRednek: ok.. so, a fresh install is the way then
[21:19] <holstein> thats my suggestion
[21:35] <xubuntu991> Xubuntu docs en español?
[21:35] <holstein> !es
[21:37] <xubuntu991>  Where I can found Xubuntu 13.10 manual in spanish?
[21:39] <xubuntu991>  Xubuntu 13.10 manual in spanish?
[21:40] <holstein> xubuntu991: i am looking please be patient, and see the above link
[21:40] <xubuntu991> thank you, I`m sorry
[21:41] <holstein> xubuntu991: estoy buscando. por favor sea paciente, y ver el enlace de arriba
[21:41] <xubuntu991> ok
[21:41] <holstein> xubuntu991: the spanish irc channel would be the best place to start.. also, the browser offers to translate the wiki for me
[21:42] <holstein> xubuntu991: if you are looking for a general "getting started", i would just get started.. just install, and start using it, and ask questions in the spanish language channel as they come up
[21:42] <Ilmen> Yo también esta buscando un poco.... encontré eso [https://wiki.fic.udc.es/_media/alumnos:reciclaxe:guia_xubuntu_2011-12.pdf] pero es para Xubuntu 10.04  :/
[21:43] <xubuntu991> Ok, I can do it in English too
[21:43] <xubuntu991> thank you
[21:43] <holstein> xubuntu991: when you visit http://docs.xubuntu.org/1310/ it should offer to translate in your browser
[21:44] <xubuntu991> is not for me, is for somebody in her first time in linux
[21:44] <xubuntu991> but, thank you for your help
[21:44] <Ilmen> http://www.guia-ubuntu.com/index.php/Gu%C3%ADa_Xubuntu
[21:44] <holstein> xubuntu991: for any modern web browswer.. it should offer to translate
[21:45] <Ilmen> ^ eso parece bueno
[21:45] <xubuntu991> it is; si que es
[21:46] <Ilmen> :)
[21:50] <xubuntu991> Good night everyone, Thanks
[21:51] <Ilmen> You're welcome
[22:04] <esph> holstein: Just reporting back to say that it turned out to be a quirk in how Pulse handled the mic. I fixed it by unlocking the input channels and silencing the right side, while keeping the left side at normal levels.
[22:56] <xubuntu336> hey is anyone here? I have a question about installing xubuntu via USB. im building a computer and when i boot from the usb, the installer runs. i select "install xubuntu" and then i get this black screen with my mouse cursor.. is it installing..?
[22:57] <knome> unlikely; you should get a dialog that informs you of the process
[22:57] <knome> have you tried to go "try xubuntu" and install from therE?
[22:57] <xubuntu336> crap. umm let me see hold on
[22:57] <knome> or even first, see if the live environment works for you
[22:57] <xubuntu336> just reset
[22:58] <xubuntu336> ok im trying it without installing now
[22:58] <xubuntu336> im getting the xubunto logo with a loading circle under it
[22:59] <Slesa> Hi all, is there a howto for installing Oracle's JDK?
[22:59] <xubuntu336> yeah damn same screen now..
[22:59] <xubuntu336> cursor but nothing else
[22:59] <knome> xubuntu336, please, no need to curse
[22:59] <xubuntu336> sorry
[22:59] <knome> xubuntu336, what are your pc specs?
[23:00] <xubuntu336> 8 GB ram, 2 7950 GPUs, AMD dual core 64bit processor
[23:00] <xubuntu336> 3.2 ghzi think
[23:00] <knome> xubuntu336, have you googled if your GPU's are supposed to work with ubuntu/linux in general?
[23:01] <xubuntu336> yup, they definitely do. its for virtual currency mining.
[23:04] <xubuntu336> im gonna try to back up to 12.10
[23:12] <AndroUser> Hi all
[23:24] <xubuntu336> woo it workde!