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QuintasanI NEED A NEW HARD DRIVE00:44
QuintasanLIKE NOW00:44
yofelwhat happened this time? ^^00:44
Quintasansomehow00:44
QuintasanI managed to make partitions that way so A is partly aligned on B00:45
yofel*blink*00:45
Quintasanthe end of A covers like 10% of the beginning of B00:45
QuintasanI have like absolutely no idea how did I make it so00:45
QuintasanGotta buy a HDD, copy everything and set up an RAID + LVM fianlly00:46
=== Quintasan changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu | https://trello.com/kubuntu | 4.11.97 WIP http://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas | bugs http://goo.gl/vHRjj | build status http://goo.gl/cjEFkO | ISO testing http://goo.gl/cRAawa
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ahoneybunhey ovidiu-florin lordievader02:46
valorieahoneybun: I couldn't open your link above03:43
valoriesame message as Riddell got03:43
valorieno object or whatever03:44
ahoneybunoh can't remember what I sent03:44
* genii sips coffee and wonders when jussi will have hoodies03:45
ahoneybunvalorie: http://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu/Contribute this is a good example of a great page03:45
valorieit looks spiffy03:47
valoriehave you checked all the links?03:47
ahoneybunbelieve so03:48
ahoneybunalso fixed the ones on the main page03:49
ahoneybunas I made them03:49
valorieawesome03:50
valorieyou are tearing it up!03:50
ahoneybunsoftware is almost done, installation is not started03:51
ahoneybunhttp://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu I made a Advanced page and moved some of the none basic things there03:51
ahoneybunbest thing is that I'm off from work for 2 weeks so I will have time lol03:52
valorieyes, I noticed that03:54
valorieI think the basic page is now actually just basic03:54
valoriewhich is exactly what we want03:54
ahoneybunexcellent03:54
ahoneybunjust what I planned 03:55
valorieI'm so happy about this03:55
valorieas soon as we have a few pages with no Construction tags on, I'll write to the translators03:56
ahoneybunthe move or how the docs are shaping you, or both lol03:56
ahoneybunI love those tags lol03:56
valorieyes, they are awesome03:56
valoriethe whole system is really excellent03:56
ahoneybunthis is nice http://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu/Advanced#PPAs_.28Personal_Package_Archive.2903:57
valoriethey've worked really hard to get everything easy to use, clean of spam, etc.03:57
ahoneybunthe warning note03:57
valoriethe warning box? yeah03:57
ahoneybunlove it03:57
valoriealthough that won't exactly translate over to html03:57
ahoneybunoh03:57
valoriebut we can hack up something03:57
valoriea box and change in font03:58
ahoneybunas long as it is noted to the user03:58
valoriethere may even be scripts that do that, since mediawiki is so widely used03:58
valorieno one works on moin, since it's basically dead03:58
valorieexcept for the ubuntu wikis03:58
valoriewhich are nice, but you can really appreciate the difference now03:59
ahoneybunyea do you have the email for the admin people04:00
valoriewhich admin people?04:00
ahoneybunubuntu people04:00
valorieoh, no04:00
ahoneybunto get the kubuntu.org/doc things off04:00
ahoneybunoh04:00
valorieI've never corresponded with them04:00
ahoneybunok04:00
valoriejust remove the pages or put in a redirect as you are done04:01
valorieredirect would be best, actually04:01
ahoneybunbeen told I can't04:01
valoriein case someone has linked to the old pages04:01
ahoneybunubuntu sys admins have the access04:01
valoriewell, you can put in the new link at the top04:01
ahoneybunhttp://www.kubuntu.org/doc/7.10/index/C/index.html04:01
ahoneybunthis04:01
valorieand say that that is where current docs are being worked on04:01
valorieI don't see a reason to get the ubuntu admins involved04:02
valoriejust remove most of the content of each old page and give a link to the new one04:03
ahoneybunhttp://www.kubuntu.org/community/contribute I changed the link on the Documentation part to the new one on userbase.kde.org04:03
valoriewhen we stop adding new ones there, we can go back and fix all the old ones remaining04:03
valoriemost will stay just for historical purposes04:03
valorieand we still have an LTS going04:03
ahoneybunis kinda confused on what we are talking about>?04:04
valoriethe old wiki documentation pages04:04
valorieI don't think we can move *entirely* off the ubuntu wiki system04:04
ahoneybunhttp://www.kubuntu.org/doc/7.10/index/C/index.html this are old things that we need to remove04:04
valoriejust the docs04:04
ahoneybunoh wiki.kubuntu.org?04:05
valorieI'm looking at that page, and don't see exactly to what you refer04:05
valorieon www.kub.org04:05
valoriewhich old things do we need to remove?04:06
ahoneybunhttp://www.kubuntu.org/doc/7.10/index/C/index.html 04:06
valoriewe have access to www.kub.org04:06
valorieask Riddell for keys04:06
* valorie doesn't have the password04:06
ahoneybunkubuntu.org or kub.org?04:06
valoriekubuntu.org04:08
ahoneybunwhat admin-kubuntu.org?04:08
valorieoften called ko04:08
valorieum, I don't have an account to edit anything on the website04:08
valorieRiddell or jussi do thought04:09
ahoneybunI do04:09
valoriethough04:09
valorieoh, ok04:09
valoriecool04:09
ahoneybunwell passwords04:09
ahoneybunRiddell and yofel gave them04:09
valoriesuper04:10
ahoneybunwe have the feature tour getting worked on as a google project04:10
valorieah, GCi?04:10
valoriethat's great04:10
valorieI got a lot of the Amarok Handbook done in the first year I did GCi04:11
valoriewith the help of the students04:11
ahoneybunjose is doing it04:11
valorieok04:13
valorieultimately, I'd like us to comb through the whole website and wiki, and get rid of old crap04:14
valoriebut that can be done as we have time04:14
ahoneybunyea'04:16
valorielots of old garbage on the KDE system too04:18
valoriebut all in good time04:18
valorielots of the old kde.org pages should just be deleted or archived, but again, no one has time right now04:19
valorieok, time for tv news04:19
valoriettyl04:19
ahoneybunyep our main goal is going to get the Docs ready04:19
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Tm_Tpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kopete_4%3a4.12.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu13.10~ppa1_amd64.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/kde4/kopete_cryptography.so', which is also in package kopete-cryptography 1.3.0-kde4.4.0-0ubuntu506:18
Tm_Tso kpt-crypto isn't on separate package anymore?06:19
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soeegood morning07:11
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1242633] unity pointer barriers sru bug @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1242633 (by Maarten Lankhorst)07:59
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jdrabaww god i love kubuntu..08:12
lordievaderahoneybun: ping08:48
lordievaderGood morning btw.08:49
BluesKajhiyas all13:02
xnoxapachelogger: retried a few failed neon builds with new cmake, they are now passing. closing the cmake bug.13:14
apacheloggerxnox: thanks <313:14
xnoxapachelogger: i think https://code.launchpad.net/~neon/+archive/kf5/+build/5370150 this might also be exposed to cmake changes, can you confirm if "./debian/rules build" works with those dependencies installed from the PPA?13:14
xnoxapachelogger: also, is it known that a few things are depwait on kdelibs5?13:15
apacheloggerxnox: that's transitional13:15
apacheloggerkdelibs was split into a bazillion repos13:15
apacheloggerbeen boostrapping for days :S13:15
xnoxapachelogger: lovely.... i think?! =)13:16
apacheloggermore atomic dependencies, also it means that qt applications can use general purpose awesomeness like solid or sonnet without dragging in half of kde13:17
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tester56does nepomuk clean indexed data if a file the indexed data belongs to is removed?15:26
tester56this would make perfect sense ... for example i got sent a file over skype that contained links to pornsites and other stuff I do not really want to have on my computer which will be indexed by nepomuk. As nepomuk stores many stuff like tags etc. cleaning the whole database does not make sense ... so it would be nice to know that removing a certain file removes all the index information ... 15:35
tester56this way the database would not store unnecessary information ... (as i migrate the whole database all the time)15:37
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cyphermoxRiddell: so, ModemManager. Do you know if debian has the updates plasma codes and all of that to support it?19:03
soeehows trusty woks for you guys with KDE SC 4.12 ?19:08
geniiFine so far here19:15
soeegeni some annoying bugs maybe ?19:16
geniisoee: I had only one during updates, it had some issue with upgrading sendmail and got into a loop on postinstall. Had to remove sendmail. Installed postfix instead for now. Otherwise no complaints ( no new ones that is, which are different from 13.10 or such! )19:23
soeeah nice :) thanks genii19:25
joseRiddell: ping20:54
joseor valorie, ahoneybun: ping21:09
valoriehi jose, what's up?21:17
josevalorie: hey, I was updating the screenshots for the feature tour on kubuntu.org, but let's say, games. the kpatience one is the same one, and I cannot find the other games preinstalled21:17
valoriekpatience is the only pre-installed game, afaik21:18
valorieand yes, I don't think it's changed for awhile21:18
joseI've been quite busy as I just got graduated but read on the backlog that ahoneybun was going to take some screenshots and send them to me21:18
valorieok21:19
valorieif the current screenie is good and current, you don't need to replace it21:19
valorieimo21:19
josethat's what I was thinking, just wanted to confirm with someone on the team :)21:19
valoriewe're all about good results, not needless work21:20
valoriecongratulations on graduation!21:20
valoriethat21:20
valorie's a huge accomplishment21:20
josethanks, now the next step is university :)21:20
josestill a looong way to go21:21
valorieI found that a lot more fun21:21
valorienow you have built the foundation21:21
josewe'll see how it goes, I should be alright21:22
soeehmm i have 4.12 here on saucy21:27
soeenow i see several packages to update like kde-workspace21:27
soeeit says i  have 4.11.3 and wants to update to 4.11.3 also21:28
soeeant other packages the same21:28
valoriedid you add the beta ppa?21:29
soeethe new version is with ~ubuntu13.10~ppa121:29
soeevalorie: i had it from ninjas ppa21:29
valorieI did updates yesterday, but still have 4.11.321:29
valorieoh, ok21:29
soeevalorie: 4.12 is in backports21:30
soeehttps://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports?field.series_filter=saucy21:30
valorieah, I wonder why I don't have it then?21:32
soeewhat was the command to do release upgrade ?21:37
soeesaucy -> trusty ?21:37
BluesKajsoee, sudo do-release-upgrade -d21:38
joseahoneybun: hey, around?21:52
noobieHello21:53
valorieahoneybun, Riddell, apachelogger: updated https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu a bit, basically by copying our good new wiki page21:54
noobieI would like to ask, if it is possible to disable password typing when on login screen on Kubuntu21:54
valoriesome nice screenies are gone, of the ancient kpackagekit21:54
noobiein Kubuntu21:54
valorienoobie: this is the devel channel; support in #kubuntu21:54
noobieOK21:54
noobieGoodbye21:54
valoriehope to see you in #kubuntu21:55
valorieha, I didn't have all of backports enabled22:11
valoriesee, working on documentation teaches the workers too22:11
valorieok, time to restart to a new kde version!22:15
soeethis looks cool http://dot.kde.org/2013/12/20/plasma-2-technology-preview :)22:18
valorie4.12 is awesome so far, btw22:33
josehey valorie, have some time like to check some text I corrected on the webpage?22:40
valoriesure22:40
josevalorie: on http://www.kubuntu.org/feature-tour-new, I polished the parts of 'Email made easy', 'Chat right from the desktop with your friends' and 'Surf the Internet safely'22:42
valorieshouldn't there be a divider line between surfing and email?22:44
valorieand the chat part22:44
apacheloggerkubotu: order some divider lines22:44
* kubotu slides some divider lines down the bar to apachelogger22:44
* apachelogger hands out lines22:44
valoriewith no divisions, the text isn't staying with the images22:44
* apachelogger leaves for booze now22:45
valorieoooo, sip one for me22:45
josehmm, lemme check22:45
valoriejose, those divs or whatever makes those dividing lines are really needed22:45
josebecause even in the current webpage they're not there22:46
joseI can try an add them, for sure22:46
valoriehmmm22:46
valoriethe upper sections have them22:46
valoriecopy that22:46
josewhat I can do is align the text, but the divider line is in fact on its place22:47
joseas aaaaall that part is 'Internet'22:47
valoriehmmm22:48
valoriephone22:48
josehmm?22:49
valorieok, back22:51
valorievet called, appointment made22:51
joseoh, cool :)22:51
josehope your pet's all good22:51
soee:)22:52
soeeupgrade to trusty a1 finsihed :D22:52
valorieI think she might have a UTI22:52
valorienothing serious, but I'm getting tired of cleaning up pee spots everywhere22:53
josewell :)22:54
valoriesince when is mail "internet"?22:58
valoriemail preceeded the creation of the internet22:59
valorieharrumph, cane-waving, etc.22:59
soeewhen can we expect PMC 1.2 for trusty ?23:01
josevalorie: no idea, but right now the images are not displaying23:02
joseno idea what happened23:02
josevalorie: the two images that were on internet are not displaying anymore, should I poke IS about that?23:05
valorieMore open-source browsers are available through Kubuntu's software repositories.23:07
valorie                                                </p>23:07
valorie                                                <img src="/themes/kubuntu10.04/images/feature-tour/internet/feature-tour-apps-browsers.png" class="center" />23:07
valorie                                                <img src="/files/Kmail640.png" class="right" />23:07
valorie                                                <img src="/files/KDEtelepathy640.png" class="right" />23:07
valorie                                                <br />23:07
valorielooks like mis-named files23:07
josehmm, they were like that a while ago and it's not showing anymore23:07
valorieok, I guess check in files and see if they are there23:09
valorieall the other images seem to be in /themes/23:09
valoriethe ones that are correctly displaying23:09
juancarlospacohello can somebody help me validate a bug?, need a minute and Kate...23:13
josevalorie: looks like they're not there, I'll poke IS in a while with my other changes too23:14
valorieok23:14
valoriemaybe check in /themes/ too, and see if they are already there?23:14
valorieI've never worked on the website, so I don't know their setup23:15
soeejuancarlospaco: what bug ?23:16
juancarlospacosoee: anyone with Kate can paste this and tell me if it brokes up:   เปิดด้วย23:16
josewell23:16
joseif ahoneybun or Riddell are around maybe they know23:16
valoriejuancarlospaco: it pastes fine in Kate for me23:17
soeejuancarlospaco: brokes up ? works for me23:17
ahoneybunjose: know what?23:17
juancarlospacotry on a text file with text in int 23:17
juancarlospacoin it*23:18
joseahoneybun: hey, the images for kmail and telepathy are broken on /feature-tour and /feature-tour-new23:18
juancarlospacolike paste it on the middle of the text23:18
josethey were working all right a while ago, which may mean they were deleted somehow23:18
soeejuancarlospaco: works fine23:18
valorieI saved it, closed the file, called it back up and it is still fine23:18
soeeas valorie said23:18
ahoneybunjose: you update the site with the new images?23:19
juancarlospacook thanks soee valorie , I was thinking it was bug23:19
joseahoneybun: didn't touch anything apart from text, was about to push some changes to a branch23:19
juancarlospacoits "open with" but on Thailand, I mean Thai23:19
ahoneybunbrb23:19
yofeljose: those are the only 2 images that are attached to the current drupal page23:19
yofel... before that broke23:19
josemaybe I can put them on the theme?23:19
yofelgo ahread23:20
yofel*ahead23:20
josenow let me remember and try and get similar images23:20
valorieyay, I still remember how to debug html23:21
juancarlospacogood no bugz23:24
ryanakcaIf I remember correctly (I haven't touched the website in a few years), you need to include any images you want in the drupal theme, and then link to them from there.23:24
valoriejuancarlospaco: always good to check stuff out23:24
juancarlospacoTrue23:25
ryanakcaThe catch (unless this has changed recently), is that you need to nag the Canonical sysadmins for a few months before they get around to updating the drupal theme.23:25
valoriethat's bizarre23:25
valoriethe KDE sysadmins are amazing23:25
valoriepeople ask and things are fixed/done in like 5 minutes23:25
yofelI did manage to attach those 2 images to the website a while ago - but either that broke or the sysadmins removed the permissions23:26
valoriegeez23:26
ryanakcavalorie: Hence my retirement from dealing with the website :)23:26
valoriewell, we can always set up our own drupal and run it on our own space, i guess23:26
valoriedrupal is reasonably secure and non-spammy23:26
ryanakcaWhen you made major changes to the theme (i.e., introduced a completely new theme), the whole thing had to go through a security audit, blah blah blah. Getting changes applied to the website was the most labour intensive part. But things may have changed since then; I haven't really had anything to do with the website since 2010ish.23:27
valorieweird23:27
valorieI worked on teh linuxchix drupal system, and while it was a bit wonky, we just did it23:28
valoriethe23:28
valorieI guess Canonical has multiples of traffic and attacks, though23:28
valoriebureaucracy is good in government23:29
valorienot so good in companies23:29
valorieand grrrr in free projects23:29
soeethe global menu widget is a bit broken for GTK apps23:30
valorieyou mean the kmenu?23:31
soeevalorie: Window menubar23:31
valoriehmmm, what do I have that's gtk23:32
valoriemaybe ff23:32
valoriedefine broken?23:32
NoskcajCan someone check bug 121284823:33
ubottubug 1212848 in ktp-accounts-kcm (Ubuntu) "Sync ktp-accounts-kcm 0.7.0-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121284823:33
soeevalorie: it is impossble to open some menu item at first click23:34
valoriein FF for me, the window menubar, if by that you mean File, Edit etc.23:34
valoriework flawlessly23:34
josevalorie: hey, are you a KDE mentor on GCI?23:38
valoriewell, I'm one of the admins23:39
valorienot really actively mentoring this round23:39
valorieI have done in the past though23:39
valoriewhy?23:40
joseit's just that my current task (which is the feature-tour site update) includes poking IS to get it updated23:41
joseand I want to get some approval while Riddell is not here (listed as the task mentor) to finish the task and then submit it23:42
josewhile IS is being poked23:42
ahoneybunback'23:42
valorieok, let me look at the page one more time, and then give me your task link23:43
josesure23:43
ahoneybunso images are not working?23:43
josetwo of them aren't23:43
juancarlospacoIve made a Dolphin Service Menu, Its working ok, but it appears on Dolphin Context Menu --> Actions--> Open with , and I want it to appear like  Context Menu --> Open with , it is possible?, Im missing something ?23:44
ahoneybunoh but they are on the site?23:44
ahoneybunbut you edited the site?23:44
joseahoneybun: I edited the site to poke IS as the images I have now put on the theme23:44
yofelas I said, they're not part of the template but attached to the page in drupal - so they need to be added to the updated template23:45
joseyeppers23:45
ahoneybunyofel: was it you who said that the feature tour needed to be readded?23:46
yofelahoneybun: well, we want to update it, and only way to do it is updating the template (only way to update the images)23:47
ahoneybunpoke IS?23:47
yofelnot sure what you mean by readding?23:47
ahoneybunoh23:47
ahoneybunit to the template23:47
yofelah23:47
yofelweeeelllll. We *could* only update the images in the template and keep the text content in the DB23:48
yofelnot sure what way would be better23:49
ahoneybunyofel: not as simple as adding a file attachment and changing the image name? like in moinmoin23:49
yofelthat's broken23:49
ahoneybunI see23:49
ahoneybunhost images else where?23:49
josebtw, I kept the text on the DB23:49
valorieahoneybun: did you see my note above?23:49
ahoneybunhow far up?23:50
yofelthe 2 images we talked about are actually attached to the page, but now I get errors when trying to attach new ones23:50
valorieabout https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu23:50
ahoneybunoh packagekit you mean?23:50
valorieyes23:51
ahoneybunI saw that23:51
ahoneybunI'll add it to the pages that need to be refreshed23:51
valorieI removed all that text, and replaced it with text from our wiki page23:51
ahoneybunoh23:51
valoriethank you23:51
ahoneybunso add it?23:51
valorieso there are no images, anymore23:51
valoriewell, it should at least be checked23:51
ahoneybunoh23:51
valorieI did check links, removed the old text23:52
ahoneybunadded23:52
valorieand replaced with our new stuff, but I'm sure it could be better23:52
valoriewhat would be good is an include, but I'm not sure you can include from a different wiki23:52
ahoneybunI'll see if I can get new images and add them to that page as well as our doc page talking about repos23:52
valoriecool23:53
ahoneybundid you see the pic of websplice?23:53
valorieum23:53
valoriesounds familiar, but I'm not sure23:54
ahoneybunthe docs fix better in it23:54
ahoneybunthe home anyway23:54
valorieanyway, feel free to blow away my 'improvements' -- it is better than it was23:54
ahoneybungoing to tes t plasma media center soon23:54
ahoneybuninstalled it23:54
valoriecool23:54
ahoneybunget my notebook up to the tv and try it23:54
valoriejose: I need your gci task link to sign off on it23:55
josesure, sec23:55
ahoneybunvalorie: http://ubuntuone.com/1QjBspLYq2XeYmuD6Np4v523:55
valorieas long as you promise to follow through with those broken images 23:56
valorieahoneybun: how do links work from webslice?23:56
valoriedo they open up in the browser?23:56
josevalorie: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/501206537050521623:57
valorieit lookes excellent, btw23:57
joseon that branch, if you go through images/feature-tour/internet, they're there, as Kmail640.png and KDEtelepathy640.png23:57
joseI can claim the review for on the MP, did it that way as it'd keep the MP page23:58
valorieokeydoke jose, your task is completed23:58
valoriethank you23:58
josecool, thanks to you! :)23:58
valoriepfff23:58
joselemme poke IS right now to get it all fixed :)23:58
juancarlospacowow that screenshot looks cool23:58
soeevalorie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQQ09IhcSo823:59
soeethis issue23:59

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