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larsI can*t find the DVD source plugin for my CD and DVD player00:14
larsI have two CD/DVD players hooked up to my PC00:14
larsOne of them used to only work with audio files, but the new one works fine:  I tested it on Windows, so I know it works00:15
larsKubuntu said it would search for the plugin, but I never saw it searching, so the DVD source plugin is still missing00:16
larsWhich is the support room for Kubuntu?00:18
larsBecause I had so much trouble with my old iptical drive, I hooked up an external optical drive to this PC00:21
larsI*m running Kubuntu 12.0400:22
Walzmynlars: what do you mean source plugin?00:23
larsI need a source plugin for my CD player to work00:24
larsThe external optical drive I hooked up is RetailPlus External Double-Layer 20x DVD+/-RW Writer00:25
Walzmynplugin to what?00:25
larsMy PC already has a built in CD player, but itś really tricky to get it to play DVDs00:26
Walzmyna CD player can't play DVDs, they use different lasers00:26
larsI need the DVD source plugin, I have no idea why00:26
larsitś a CD/DVD player built into the PC00:27
Walzmynwhat's telling you need a plugin?00:27
larsyes00:27
Walzmyn'what' is not a yes or no question00:27
larsbut Kubuntu pretends to search for the plugin, but it never really does00:27
larsKubuntu is telling me00:27
larswhen I tried to play the DVD on Dragon Player00:28
Walzmyndragon player, ding. That's what we needed. Give VLC a try. or Kaffeine00:29
WalzmynI have no idea why dragon player has been made the default. Kaffeine seems to work much better00:30
larsVLC works better, but I still can00:30
larscannot play DVDs on VLC00:30
larsshould I uninstall Dragon Player before I install VLC player?00:31
Walzmynno, they have no conflict00:31
larsok00:31
WalzmynI think I might understand your problem, now. Gimme a sec00:31
larsoh yeah, it said question search Qappt codec search00:32
Walzmynhere, lars, see if this will solve your issue http://www.videolan.org/developers/libdvdcss.html00:34
larsQuestion-QApt Codec Search...   ...The following plugin is required...DVD source....Do you want to search for this now?00:34
larsok, Iĺl check the link...00:34
Walzmyngotta go put kids to bed. G'luck00:35
larsshould I install it from the Muon software centre inst34ead?00:36
Walzmynno, just copy paste that into a terminal. You're needing to add a reppoitory so it's not in the software center until you run those commands00:37
larswhich commands?00:38
larsI thought I saw it in the Muon software centre00:38
larsyes, itś in there, provided by Ubuntu00:40
larsI successfully installed VLC Media Player, but I still can*t play DVDs00:46
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larsKubuntu recognizes the DVD and its name and correct format, and everything works except the DVD won*t play00:50
larsThe audio CD I put in is recognized better but it won*t play either00:54
larsI got the same plugin problem, this time with the audio CD00:57
larsQuestion-QApt Codec Search...   ...The following plugin is required...AUDIOCD protocol source....Do you want to search for this now?00:58
larsI click on ÿes", then it searches for plugins, then I can hear it stop searching after like 5 seconds, and nothing happens, it still doesn*t play01:00
larsKubuntu recognizes all of the files on the audio CD, just like it did with the DVD, but it cannot play anything01:02
larsI can open files: docs and pics, but I cannot play any CD or DVDs using either my internal or external optical drives01:05
larsI had a computer programmer get the internal optical drive to work to play movies and audio files, but that was before I had upgraded to a new system01:06
larsHey, may be I need to look for the drivers for particular external optical drive that Iḿ using01:07
larsIt came with a CD with drivers and software on it, but that*s for Windows01:08
larsHow do you download and install software withou using the Muon Software Centre?01:09
larsis there anyone in this room?01:09
larsthis is a test01:13
larsAnyone here?01:14
larsis there anyone in this channel?01:15
douglyes01:16
dougllars, what r your option?01:16
douglsudo apt-get install mc01:17
larsfor what?01:19
larswhat does mc stand for?01:19
douglmc is a package for midnight commander... will let you manage sourcecode gz files easier01:26
douglyou asked a loaded  question I am  going to overwhelm you with 3 of the more popular ways to install software without muon01:27
douglyou will need midinight commander to follow some of my instructions01:28
larsI don8t think I have midnight commander01:37
larsI still can*t get my optical drives to work01:39
larsKubuntu can find the plugins I need to play CDs and DVDs01:46
larsI mean ¨can*t¨ find the plugins01:47
larsKubuntu cannot find the plugins I need to play audio CDs and video DVDs01:47
larsQuestion-QApt Codec Search...   ...The following plugin is required...AUDIOCD protocol source....Do you want to search for this now?01:47
larsthe searches never come up with anything01:49
larsis there anyone here?01:51
larsis there anyone here?02:35
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DarthFrog!restricted02:59
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html  - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:59
DarthFroglars: install  kubuntu-restricted-extras03:00
larsyou mean that will solve my problem, DarthFrog?03:02
DarthFrogI would think so.03:02
DarthFrogPlus also read the info I had the bot give you above.03:03
larsI wasn trying to run restricted formats: itś a more serious problem with my CD player, I think03:04
larsIt doesn matter which DVD or CD I put into my optical drive, my PC can*t play anything03:05
DarthFrogHardware issue?03:05
larspossibly03:05
larsbut I Russian guy got it to work a few years ago03:05
DarthFrogYears?03:05
DarthFrogGet a new one.03:06
larsYeah, like two or three years ago03:06
larsI did03:06
larsI bought a new external drive03:06
larsBut I know the internal drive works, because i can open files with it03:06
larsI can copy and paste files from DVDs and CDs with the internal optical drive03:07
larsbut I cannot play anything with either my internal optical drive or my external optical drive03:07
larsThe Russian programmer got it working, but I do not know how he did it, and that was before I installed new software03:08
larsthat was when I was running Kubuntu 11.0403:08
larsNow Iḿ using Kubuntu 12.0403:09
DarthFrogIs kio-audiocd installed?  if not, install it.03:10
DarthFrog!kio-audiocd03:10
larsWhatś that?03:11
larsCan I install it using Muon Software Centre?03:11
DarthFrogYes03:12
larsThatś just for audio CDs, what about DVDs?03:12
DarthFrogI don't know what your issue is so I can't give you specific answers.03:12
larsI would like to play DVD videos too, but itś not necessary03:12
DarthFrog!libdvdcss03:13
ubottuUbuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:13
larsI can only open docs and pics with my optical drive03:13
larsItś not a legal issue, itś a technical problem03:14
larsBut I will try kio03:14
DarthFrogIf you want to play encrypted DVD videos (i.e. movies) you will need to jump through some hoops.  Those links will help you put on your jumpsuit. :-)03:15
DarthFrogAs for playing audio CDs, it should just work out of the box.  I'm fairly surprised that it isn't for you.03:16
larsOk, I don*t really need to play DVD movies, but Iĺl see if I can get the audio working with the links you gabve me03:16
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soeegood morning07:11
codeforfunI just updated from Kubuntu 13.04 to 13.10 I can't boot07:50
codeforfundue to NVIDIA driver07:50
codeforfunwhat can I do?07:50
codeforfunI have nvidia 31907:50
valorie!nvidia | codeforfun07:51
ubottucodeforfun: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto07:51
codeforfunXorg gives Segmentaion fault at address 0x007:52
valorieyou had no problem like this in 13.04?07:53
codeforfunno problem whatsoever08:08
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codeforfunX doesn't want to start by itself08:21
codeforfunI have to start it manually08:21
codeforfunand then it works08:22
codeforfunor not08:24
codeforfunits using vesa driver08:24
codeforfunfucking nvidia08:24
codeforfuneven though lsmod shows nvidia its not working08:24
codeforfunWhy windows don't have the top bar?08:24
codeforfunI can't see th top bar with minimize/maximize/close etc08:25
codeforfunwtf I had not KDM08:42
codeforfun*wtf I had no KDM08:42
codeforfunsomehow it got uninstalled08:43
codeforfunI with the NVIDIA 331 driver from sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa and after I installed KDM it works08:43
codeforfunexcept by thunderbird configuration is gone?08:43
lordievaderGood morning.08:49
svenstarHi I have a question about virtual desktops and Kubuntu 14.04.  Although I go to my settings and choose 4 desktops the 4 little "blocks"  that represent them next to the K at the bottom left do not appear although I can switch between them with  ctrl/F1 etc....09:18
svenstarHow can I get those little block Icons in the bottom panel back?09:19
qdatamaybe you don't have the plasma widget09:19
qdataunlock widgets, add the pager widget09:19
qdatawhen widgets are unlocked you'll see the cashew thingy at the right edge, usually to the right of the clock09:22
qdataclock that and a bar pops up, then click the Add Widgets  tab09:22
svenstarnever needed to do that before but I'll take a look09:23
qdataI just did a new install of 13.10 and it wasn't there so I had to add it09:23
svenstaryea OK it's a little blue square but it just minimises/maximises my current open app when I click on it09:25
svenstarno switching  between desktops09:25
qdatathe little blue square is the Show Desktop widget09:25
svenstarstrange those little block always just appeard09:26
qdatayeah - oversight left it out I think09:26
qdataadd the Pager widget and move it to where you want it09:26
qdataand it'll be back09:26
svenstarwell there is plenty of time before 14.04 is released but I was just a bit stumped as the desktop blocks went AWOL09:28
svenstarthanx for the assistance09:28
qdata:-)09:29
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Guest52205admin need help with dvd drive playback12:37
Guest52205details of the error12:38
Guest52205An error occurred while accessing 'DABUR Foods', the system responded: The requested operation has failed: Error mounting /dev/sr0 at /media/ip/DABUR Foods: Command-line `mount -t "iso9660" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,iocharset=utf8,mode=0400,dmode=0500" "/dev/sr0" "/media/ip/DABUR Foods"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad12:38
Guest52205superblock on /dev/sr0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so12:38
FloodBotK1Guest52205: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.12:38
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BluesKajhiyas all13:02
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eagles0513875BluesKaj: im totally stumped as to the issue i have with the track pad13:13
eagles0513875valorie: hey how are you13:13
BluesKajwhat issue is that , eagles0513875?13:14
eagles0513875BluesKaj: trackpad not working13:14
eagles0513875the system detects it but it doesnt work one bit13:14
eagles0513875its got the necessary drievers installed13:14
BluesKajsorry eagles0513875 , I bought a minimouse , can't stnd trackpads ...assume synaptiks is installed13:15
BluesKaj?13:16
eagles0513875i have a mini mouse too but what if i forget it for example im screwed with out the trackpad13:16
eagles0513875ya xserver-xorg-input-synaptics is already installed13:17
eagles0513875BluesKaj: ^13:17
eagles0513875BluesKaj: do i file a bug against synaptics?13:18
BluesKajsynaptiks , not synaptics ..yes13:20
eagles0513875its ics not ks13:20
eagles0513875i apt-cache search for synaptiks and it doesnt exist13:21
eagles0513875brb going to reboot13:21
BluesKajnope look in muon13:21
BluesKaj!synaptiks13:22
BluesKajsynaptiks touchpad configuration tool. this package contains a configuration tool for touchpads. The package provides a kcm module (for systemsettings), as well as a plasma widget and kded module to help managing touchpads, especially in KDE environments.13:22
BluesKajeagles0513875, then you don't have synaptiks installed, because it shows here13:25
eagles0513875BluesKaj: what release are you on13:37
BluesKaj14.0413:38
eagles0513875ahh yes there it is13:38
eagles0513875it goes by a different name BluesKaj13:38
eagles0513875kde-config-touchpad13:38
eagles0513875which my system is telling me is already installed13:38
BluesKajyeah , but if you type synaptiks in muon search the touchpad app comes up13:39
eagles0513875i use command line lol13:39
eagles0513875which in muon its showing installed13:39
BluesKajmuon is a good reference for apps , I seldom use it to install , but it's great when apps names have been changed13:40
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eagles0513875apt-cache search does a good job if you can figure out a keyword13:41
Guest81361problem --- An error occurred while accessing 'Root', the system responded: The requested operation has failed: Error mounting /dev/sr0 at /media/ip/DABUR Foods: Command-line `mount -t "iso9660" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,iocharset=utf8,mode=0400,dmode=0500" "/dev/sr0" "/media/ip/DABUR Foods"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only mount: wrong fs type, bad option,13:42
Guest81361 bad superblock on /dev/sr0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so13:42
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douglhow come there are so many updates today?14:50
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BluesKajupgrading packages, dougl, your package maintainers at work there14:55
douglmorning BluesKaj - looks like the maintianers are work a holics... please forward my appreciation...14:56
douglyou ready for Christmas?14:57
BluesKajalmost dougl..you ?15:01
BluesKajwe always put the tree up at the last minute 2-3 days before Christmas15:02
douglwe are ready - tree was up early for the smell and decorating is closer to last minute... the needles are already falling off but smells great in here.15:03
BluesKajheh, the needle fall is why we wait15:04
BluesKajeagles0513875, did you get synaptiks installed ?15:05
eagles0513875BluesKaj: its been installed and still nothing15:06
eagles0513875so something deeper down must be taking place15:06
douglBluesKaj, the needles and the epileptic dog are why we have hardwoods - lol15:06
BluesKajHW recognition15:06
BluesKajwhich laptop . eagles0513875 ?15:06
eagles0513875BluesKaj: toshiba sattelite s75-a722115:07
BluesKajnot confined to toshiba , seems like a prob for many brands , eagles051387515:13
eagles0513875BluesKaj: is there a bug on launchpad and can you provide me wiht a link15:14
eagles0513875well ill be damned things keep getting better15:16
fraplanes15:21
BluesKajeagles0513875, there isn't much documentation on launchpad about either synaptiks or kde-config-touchpad after 201215:21
eagles0513875i was going to file a bug linking to other forums etc of people with the same issue15:22
BluesKajfile one , it's needed , there seem to be probs with the touchpad on kubuntu lately ...altho I personally didn't have it15:23
BluesKajeagles0513875, 13.10 >15:24
BluesKaj?15:24
eagles0513875BluesKaj: mines an elantech touch pad though15:26
eagles0513875yours probably isnt15:26
BluesKajyeah eagles0513875, this laptop isn't exactly TOTL , but the build quality seems decent for the money15:28
eagles0513875this one is quite decent15:28
eagles0513875as well more high end and good for development15:28
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eagles0513875!teamviewer17:16
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darklight_Is some brave soul already running 14.04 alpha1 ?18:00
rberghas anybody here used akonadi with a postgresql db?18:05
geniidarklight_: I am18:05
darklight_genii: is it already usable ? last time I tried a *buntu alpha it was rough to say the least18:06
geniidarklight_: I had only so far an issue with sendmail trying to be upgraded and it got into a loop. I'm using right now 14.04 updated a couple hours ago, proprietary nvidia drivers, it's on kde 4.12 now and running fairly smoothly18:08
geniidarklight_: I run quite a few PPA and still no major issue yet ( webupd8 java, firefox daily, vlc daily, xorg-edgers, opensync, and some others)18:11
darklight_that's good to know, is it already using mesa 10?18:12
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eagles0513875hey gene_19:29
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genesisadnhola19:45
genesisadnyo no se usar nada de esto ayuda?=19:45
genii!es19:45
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.19:45
genesisadnhola hola19:48
genii!es | genesisadn19:48
ubottugenesisadn: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.19:48
genesisadngracias19:49
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noobieHello21:55
valorieo/21:55
noobieI would like to ask if it is possible to disable password typing when in Kubuntu21:56
noobieKubuntu Login screen21:56
valorienoobie: are you the only person who ever uses this computer?21:56
noobieno21:56
valoriethen having no password is a really bad idea21:57
valoriethat is your first line of security21:57
noobieno I mean when you type a password I can see dots21:57
noobieI want to disable the dots appearing21:57
valorieagain, that is a security measure21:58
noobiea possitive one or a negative one21:58
noobie?21:58
valorieit might be possible, but I would urge you instead to think of a short, easy to type passw, which is still difficult to guess21:58
valoriewell, if there are others about, and your passw is typed in plain text, then they will know your passw21:59
noobieI know, but  I want to set the system that when I type the password the dots which indicate that the password is being typed to disable, so no dots appear when I type it22:00
valorieah22:00
noobieI tried to search the web but I haven't found any answers22:01
valoriethat is far beyond my knowledge, sorry22:01
noobievalorie: That is OK22:01
valorieI think you would have to patch lightdm, unless you can talk our devels into making that change22:02
valorieor the lightdm devels, I guess22:02
noobieso that can't be changed naturally?22:02
valorienot that I know of22:03
valorieyou can write to the kubuntu-devel list and make your case for the change, though22:03
valoriethere is precedent; in the cli when you type your root passw there is no feedback22:04
noobieso thank you for your time22:14
noobieGoodbye22:14
valoriebye noobie22:14
noobieAnd thank you for your help of course22:14
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apacheloggervalorie: there's no asterisks because sudo suffers from a severe case of paranoia22:33
apacheloggerthere is no rationale for this other than not showing the length of the password, which IMO only supports people in using passwords like abc :P22:34
valorieI'm not paranoid, but I do believe in passwords22:35
valorieand I don't use abc22:35
valorie:-)22:35
ScottyKrunning kubuntu 64 on my computer. I want to run kubuntu in a VM on the same computer. I heard it's better to run the 32 bit in that instance. true or false?23:12
valorieScottyK: the devels run everything in VMs23:13
valorieso whatever you want23:13
ScottyKvalorie - ok thanks. I'll just go 32 bit for old times sake!23:17
valoriethere isn't a whole lot of difference I can see these days23:19
valorieI put on 32-bit on my other laptop out of sheer carelessness, and everything worked fine until I tried to set up dropbox23:19
valorieyou have to use a different line for 32 than 64 bit23:19
valorielol23:20
valorieso it was a good test i guess23:20
ScottyKI wanted to run kubuntu in a vm, so I can really play around with and not screw up my main computer23:20
valoriethat's a good idea, and the same reason the devels run all the alpha and testing stuff in VMs23:21
ScottyKMy laptop is finally powerful enough to also do it. Loving VM more everyday23:22
valoriecool23:22
valorieI think my son told me that running windows in a vm made it run faster23:23
valoriehe plays WoW in windows23:23
ScottyKMy kids computer is next on the upgrade list. They still dual boot because some of their games are a pain to get working in linux, envision those games on a VM23:25
valorieson found the VM worked better than dual-booting23:30
valoriebut whatever makes the customer happy!23:30
ScottyKkids computer is a dual core with 4GB RAM. you think that's enough to run windows in VM? The games they play are things like roller coaster tycoon, and MAME23:35
valorieoh gosh, i have no idea23:37
valorieI do have windows on this laptop, but have only started it up to test grub working23:38
valoriehaven't really used win at all for well over 10 years23:38

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