=== xnox is now known as doko_ === doko_ is now known as xnox === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [05:03] ... http://cryptojunky.com/blog/2013/12/19/getting-started-with-dogecoin/ [07:36] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=361813.0 === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk === iahmad__ is now known as iahmad === alan_g|afk is now known as alan_g [08:39] Morning [08:42] Why's my keyboard suddenly gone all @US@ on me? [08:43] because that's the Right Way to do keyboard layouts [08:43] TheOpenSourcerer: Blame the NSA, its easier for them to understand what you're saying [08:43] It was fine last night - now I have @ where " should be? and \ should be # [08:43] none if this silly UK layout stuff [08:44] TheOpenSourcerer: I'm sure I've seen quite a few people making similar comments over the last few days [08:44] TheOpenSourcerer: is it also wrong in the keyboard layout preferences thingy? [08:45] Great I open the Language tool in settings and get: [08:45] "The language support is not installed completely [08:45] Some translations or writing aids available for your chosen languages are not installed yet. Do you want to install them now?" [08:45] TheOpenSourcerer: This seems to be typical of the comments I've seen mentioned with 13.10 http://askubuntu.com/questions/367209/saucy-keyboard-layout-changing-from-uk-to-us-not-showing-as-changed-in-settin [08:45] TheOpenSourcerer: yeah it doesn't install en-gb by default, just en-us [08:45] But it was fine yesterday when I went home. [08:46] did you upgrade anything? ARe you on trusty? [08:46] Nothing changed since then. I turned my laptop off, went home, came in, turned it on and now I have en_US [08:46] Nope. 13.10 [08:46] It seems to be a bit of a random bug [08:46] The Language Support gui thing is all greyed out too. [08:47] thats not keyboard surely [08:47] thats language [08:47] its in "Text entry" in system settings here [08:47] bug 1245379 seems similar [08:47] bug 1245379 in indicator-keyboard (Ubuntu) "Keyboard layout changes to UK on 13.10" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1245379 [08:47] Dunno - all I know is my keyboard went all USA on me this morning. [08:47] yeah, click the cog, system settings, text entry [08:48] add uk in and make it default [08:48] That's the only one I have in there ;-) [08:48] English (UK) [08:49] try flipping to us and back? [08:49] odd isnt it [08:51] OK - Dicking about with that Text Entry widget seems to have restored normality. TY === msm is now known as Guest20876 [09:13] Stränge === Guest20876 is now known as msm_ [09:25] Good morning all; happy Friday and happy Human Solidarity Day! :-D [09:29] * Laney pokes JamesTait [09:29] yep, pretty solid [09:29] but is he also ard? [09:29] arid* [09:37] seem to have a leak on the rear passenger side of my car. any suggestiosn where to look first? window seals? door seal? [09:39] does your car run ubuntu? ;) [09:39] this chan is my go to place for clever people [09:40] foobarry: I'd look at the entire rubber door seal first [09:40] foobarry: see if it's old/crusty/visibly leaky [09:40] are they easy to replace? jsut pop out? [09:41] foobarry: depends on make/model really [09:41] focus 2006 estate [09:41] but usually, yes. Watch a few youtube HOWTO videos first though [09:41] before you ruin it ;) [09:41] cool ta [09:42] foobary: Gaffa tape around the door. Job done. [09:42] might wanna open it at some point [09:42] TwistedLucidity: how.. ghetto [09:42] foobarry: so? Just remove the tape for a bit then re-apply [09:43] climb out of the window instead [09:43] Laney++ # pragmatism [09:43] foobarry: Brick the window, enter "Dukes of Hazzard" style-ee. [09:43] Next question from foobarry: I have a leaking window.... :-) [09:43] clingfilm the car [09:44] TwistedLucidity: cling film [09:44] silly season in here today [09:44] foobarry: it's Friday, Friday, etc. [09:44] all the door seals on ebay are used :( [09:44] My head is permanent silly season. The name is for a reason. [09:45] foobarry: Used is fine as long as they are not cracked and are still suple [09:45] foobarry: Not a big deal if they are used; so long as they are complete and in good nick. You might be better off popping down to a breaker's and seeing what they have. [09:45] yeah [09:45] need to identify the leak source first [09:46] carpet under passenger seat is v wet [09:46] its been raining a lot lately [09:46] foobarry: Do you have a sunroof? [09:46] foobarry: maybe your kid is leaky instead? [09:46] TwistedLucidity: nope [09:46] i experienced that with my mk2 golf though [09:48] foobarry: Mad idea here. Get some chalk, rub on car. Close door. Open door. If there are patches of seal with no chalk - there's yer leaky bit [09:48] blow the car full of smoke. Points where it streams out = leaky bit [09:49] Anyone here an Inkscape ninja? [09:50] TwistedLucidity: not a ninja, but I know my way around a bit [09:50] MartijnVdS: Know why it refuses to print small object which have a stroke set? Remove the stroke, object prints fine. (e.g. small square or something) [09:52] Thinking I might log a bug about it. Took me an age to figure out why my chrimbo cards looked like butt. [09:53] Even the offical GNU logo needed hacking to get it to print. [09:53] TwistedLucidity: No idea.. I haven't done much printing with it tbh [09:54] Really, really annoying 'feature'. Tried the SVG in LibreOffice Draw as well, it failed to open it correctly and lost a lot of the gradients etc. Hey ho. Maybe another bug there.... [09:57] TwistedLucidity: what if you open it in a web browser? [09:58] Not tried in a browser directly. [10:00] try printing to pdf or summat [10:00] also, did you put the gnu logo on your xmas cards? [10:01] i think i'm going to need to get a new hard drive for steam games [10:01] join us now and share the christmas? [10:02] stop that [10:02] ali1234: But that's the problem. Inkscape will not print small objects with a stroke set; and you only find out *after* to try to print (to any media). [10:03] They don't even appear on export or print preview. Inkscape just ignores them [10:03] ali1234: I put a Gnu and a Tux on a design I did for the local LUG. [10:03] so it's a inkscape bug then [10:04] ali1234: Yup, pretty sure it is. [10:05] TwistedLucidity: what if you scale everything up, so the small object isn't small anymore? [10:06] MartijnVdS: Then it prints. Take soemthing big that print, make it small; no printy-print. [10:06] Remove the stroke (i.e. border) then it prints. [10:06] Really damned odd [10:06] try to construct minimal test-case... [10:07] ali1234: I have with nothing more than squares. Asked Team Inksapce about it on Launchpad; answer there came none. [10:07] you need to go upstream [10:08] also you probably need to hassle people on irc if you want it fixed before christmas [10:08] ali1234: Only location I could find to ask questions was Launchpad [10:08] Not to worry - I'll knock up a few more test cases and log bugs for them. [10:09] ali1234: Don't need it fixed before Chrimbo, now I know the 'rule' I can workaround. [10:14] good morning everyone. [10:16] I HAS CUPASOUP [10:19] Good morning peeps :) [10:19] cupsoup <3 [10:19] \o bigcalmster [10:19] morning folks [10:19] it's a minestrone one too [10:19] wow [10:19] going for the win [10:19] Hi MartijnVdS, good to see you in a cheery mood [10:19] much luxury. so soup. wow. [10:19] MartijnVdS: no. just no. [10:20] luxury, lol [10:20] croutons [10:20] diddledan: No doge? [10:20] i poured dehydrated granules and bits of bread and veg into a cup, then poured boiled water into it [10:20] doge is one of those memes that just doesn't make any sense whatsoever [10:20] Much no [10:20] and i've been stirring it for the last five minutes [10:20] diddledan: and thats what makes it rather funny [10:20] height of luxury [10:20] diddledan: name a recent meme that does make sense [10:20] neuro: well, you could have someone stir it for you instead [10:21] neuro: if you want real luxury [10:21] neuro: have you tried Mug Shots? [10:21] actually no, i haven't [10:21] but i've heard they're rather nice [10:21] neuro: they are indeed. Get the Tomato & Herb ones [10:21] Or the Roast Chicken [10:21] mmm, herbs [10:21] I don't get the premise that a dog would 1) spell dog with an e, and 2) is so stupid they can't even speak proper like what I does [10:21] neuro: erbs? [10:21] hoibs [10:21] Or the Chicken and Sweetcorn. All the others are a bit meh [10:22] MartijnVdS: we can tell you're a dutchlander :-p [10:22] i'm liking batchelor's deli boxes at the moment [10:22] erbs indeed [10:22] diddledan: we prounounce "h" properly. It's Americans (and the French) who don't [10:22] broccolli and cheese pasta ftw [10:22] diddledan: and Belgians, too.. they speak Dutch with lots of missing "h" sounds [10:23] I'm working on a site for the belgians right now [10:23] it has both french and dutch translations [10:23] I have no idea what either says [10:23] and even less idea whether they're correlating [10:23] diddledan, you're surprised at the idea of people thinking dogs are thick? [10:23] diddledan, have you ever *met* a dog? [10:23] diddledan: I was at a concert on Saturday, and the singer went "This song what I wrote" (jokingly, it seemed).. is that really a way people speak? [10:24] some dogs are clever, some are stoooopid [10:24] foobarry: http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.nl/2010/07/dog.html [10:24] jings, the whole premise of cheezeburger was that animals can't spell properly [10:24] also, poor spelling could arise from english not being its first language [10:24] I think I met a dog once. but it might have been a squirrel [10:24] SQUIRREL! [10:24] e.g. http://imgur.com/PEztslL [10:25] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSUXXzN26zg [10:26] diddledan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doge_of_Venice [10:26] lol @ video [10:26] diddledan: that page is locked, because of lots of "doge"-related vandalism [10:26] lol [10:27] don't you just cringe at the thought that there's a thing called "doge-related vandalism"? [10:27] I still don't quite "get" doge [10:27] diddledan: welcome to t'internet [10:27] i think its just funny with not much to get [10:27] humble weekly sale! all linux compatible! source under BSD license at $150k in sales! [10:27] think like a stoned 16yr old [10:27] popey: you're a cat person, aren't you? ;) [10:28] I'm a cat person [10:28] meow [10:28] diddledan: no that's a *furry* [10:28] no, i just dont think it's funny after the millionth time seeing it [10:28] * diddledan licks his hand [10:28] maybe after the first few times [10:28] most memes are designed like in-jokes when there isn't in fact an in joke [10:28] foobarry: so you're saying you're a stoned 16 year old? [10:28] popey: agreed ... the first ones are usually funny, but then they just get done to death [10:28] or used incorrectly [10:28] then new memes start and the 4chan/reddit type say MEEEH that meme is so old [10:29] those are the worst [10:29] slashdot memes have largely died thankfully [10:29] hm. stanley parable [10:29] so, has everyone invested heavily in dogecoin? [10:29] or did i just stop reading comments [10:29] could be a game to play at xmas maybe [10:29] played the demo and it was quite fun [10:29] in Soviet Russia, slashdot meme kills you [10:29] foobarry: I was reading comments last week, they were STILL going on about Natalie Portman, naked and petrified, and something about hot grits [10:29] popey, more than i want to spend on interactive fiction [10:29] it's like going back in time to 1999 [10:29] and its not nice MartijnVdS [10:30] popey, Gone Home was good though, as an interactive fiction [10:30] foobarry: well that's slashdot.. [10:31] so much ageism going on here it hurts :) [10:32] neuro: feeling old? [10:32] actually yeah [10:32] i turn 40 in ~ 3 months [10:33] pfft [10:33] shut it [10:33] :) [10:33] getting slightly numb feeling in lips today [10:33] really worried that means a tooth infectino [10:33] ergh [10:34] tooth infection FTL [10:34] a tooth infection is probably an abcess, so you'll get a dull pain initially in your cheek, nose or chin [10:34] is it just me that reads that as "faster than light"? [10:34] diddledan: For Transport London? [10:34] diddledan: no [10:35] MartijnVdS: unless you're dyslexic, no [10:35] diddledan: or.. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=French%20the%20Llama [10:36] FTL always makes me think of http://www.worldofspectrum.org/infoseekid.cgi?id=0002882 [10:36] which was an excellent shootemup for the speccy [10:37] oh good lord, yes [10:37] I'd quite like some interactive fiction on the ubuntu phone [10:38] wonder how hard it would be to port over one or two of the well used engines [10:38] popey, unrealengine3 runs on smartphones... [10:38] probably not that hard [10:39] iirc stanley parable is Source, so is Dear Esther. Gone Home is... Amnesia engine? [10:39] i liked dear esther [10:39] but then I didnt pay for it [10:39] * neuro spies frotz and frizmo in the repos [10:39] yeah, that kind of thing [10:39] ah, no. prototyped with Amnesia engine, final game is Unity3D [10:39] only needs a scrollable buffer and keyboard input [10:39] so Gone Home could be on mobile trivially [10:40] http://wiki.scummvm.org/index.php/Maemo [10:40] needs SDL.. interesting [10:41] ya [10:41] and libgl [10:42] wow, beneath a steel sky is actually in the repos [10:42] http://clb.demon.fi/html5scummvm/ [10:43] a couple of scumm games are freely redistributable === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [10:43] lure-of-the-temptress [10:43] flight-of-the-amazon-queen [10:43] drascula [10:43] beneath-a-steel-sky [10:43] aye [10:43] that's pretty awesome [10:45] http://popey.com/~alan/phablet/device-2013-12-20-104536.png [10:45] hehe [10:45] hmm [10:45] oh dear [10:46] connection defused! [10:46] oh yes [10:46] you've broked it [10:46] i shutdown my webserver last night [10:46] it was running amok [10:46] need to investigate [10:46] skynet? [10:47] popey: if you have fail2ban, you can enable its apache triggers in /etc/fail2ban/jail.conf [10:47] mining lihtcoins? [10:47] looks like wordpress issue [10:47] i dont use apache [10:47] lots of people reporting that their servers were turned into chinese mining platforms [10:47] 2013-12-19 19:46:35: (mod_fastcgi.c.2701) FastCGI-stderr: PHP Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 268435456 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 4194304 bytes) in /srv/popey.com/www/blog/wp-includes/cache.php on line 457 [10:47] popey: just set enabled = true on the relevant [apache*] blocks [10:47] popey: whoops [10:48] popey: that sounds like someone trying to upload something huge, or a memory leak [10:48] popey: you tried using super cache? [10:48] hmm. 256MB should be pleny [10:48] yeah [10:51] * AlanBell sees popey's screenshot [10:51] yeah, restarted it [10:52] so that is scumm cames on Ubuntu touch? [10:53] its the url moreati mentioned [11:05] I hate drupal [11:05] it's official - I have no idea how to work the thing [11:06] did you recalibrate the dilithium matrix? [11:07] directhex: the problem is i don't know where that is [11:08] so I've got a "view" which displays correctly in french but in dutch it complains that the categories don't exist (they're the same categories as the french side) [11:28] edamato, ping [11:28] darrenF: pong :-) [11:35] hey everyon e [11:37] yo [11:41] morning knightwise [11:44] hey guys [11:44] anyone have any experience with mediaplayers (the setup box kind) and Linux ? [11:45] i'm thinking about getting something like a popcorn hour [11:45] setup box? [11:45] yeah , like a boxee box or a popcorn hour [11:46] i think you mean "Set-top box" [11:46] I'm not sure what you mean by setup box but I guess you're referring to an HTPC [11:47] aah set-top [11:47] popey: :) I stand corrected [11:47] indeed [11:47] friend of mine has a popcornhour [11:47] has had for some time [11:47] I know nothing of popcorn hour [11:47] thanks for your useful input ☻ [11:48] aide from spelling .. does anybody have any valuable contributions ? [11:48] can you be more specific? [11:48] i mean, what do you want to know? [11:48] I was wondering if a popcornhour had any issues in accessing samba shares on linux [11:49] * popey asks friend [11:51] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwS7_7BQ4bc [11:51] bless you popey ! [11:53] 11:52:28 <@darksatanic> I think so. I don't use it any more. [11:55] ok :) looks like it does pretty much everything it needs to do [11:55] * knightwise is getting rid of the pc in the living room [12:08] popey, detected, but read squat [12:08] can't* [12:14] sounds like it needs formatting [12:14] or its knackered [12:14] or it was formatted without a partition table [12:15] formatted with gparted just fine [12:15] brand new drive too [12:16] damn it [12:17] try `file -s /dev/yourdevice` [12:17] that might be able to determine whether it was partitioned or not [12:18] ok [12:18] it's just hanging [12:18] hmm [12:19] still hanging, I'm killing the terminal [12:39] Humf, OCZ have sent me a replacement SSD, but it's marked as "Refurbished" [12:42] bigcalm: I had the same [12:43] Not sure how I feel about a refurbished SSD. Thing is I don't know if it was pre-used (fewer writes left) or just damaged packaging repackaged [12:52] bigcalm: what does smartctl say? [12:53] popey: it's still in its packaging :) [12:55] you *may* need to take it out [12:55] ;) === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [13:17] for zealots among us: http://www.fsf.org/news/gluglug-x60-laptop-now-certified-to-respect-your-freedom [13:17] * diddledan wonders just what exactly the word "zealot" means [13:18] aah, that would fit [13:18] noun 1. a person who is fanatical and uncompromising in pursuit of their religious, political, or other ideals. [13:18] diddledan: "My life for Aiur" [13:18] http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Zealot ;) [13:19] so Dicky Stallman is good at hand-to-hand combat, eh? [13:21] so. when do we get the "Free Software Movement" classified as a bona fide religion? [13:22] I mean if thingy who invented scientology can do it then surely we can? [13:22] el ron [13:25] ref: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/11/woman-wins-marry-church-scientology <-- if a court believes a scientology chapel is a valid place of worship then the court is surely also legitimising scientology as a religion, no? [13:27] things not to do on a friday: typo < vs > in a bash redirection :( [13:27] eek [13:28] which file did you wipe out? [13:28] nothing hugely important I hope [13:30] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fws4UYFyftA nice [13:31] well-done linux voice [13:33] linux voice sounds like some political wing [13:34] the linux vice 8-) [13:34] like miami vice.. but with linux instead [13:34] maybe it's part of a movement to getting a voted linux representative in parliament? [13:36] "and the representative of the 'free as in beer' party mr moo" [13:36] diddledan: Moo Doo? [13:36] lol [13:36] moodoo'll doo [13:37] moo doodoo? [13:38] as if we didn't know that was gonna happen... the editor dude who quit linux format at the same time as the already known linux-voice people has joined linux-voice as their editor [13:38] he had to wait out some gardening leave first tho [13:39] damned contracts insisting you can't work for anyone else within 3 months [13:39] diddledan: 3? My previous month said 6. But only direct competitors [13:39] my previous contract, too. [13:42] is the phrase "have you mooed today?" a direct rip from windows 95's "where do you want to go today?"? [13:42] note: apt-get moo [13:45] http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/92185/whats-the-story-behind-super-cow-powers :) [13:48] hello there [13:48] moo [13:48] Can somebody help me to repair ubuntu 12.04 [13:49] depends how you broke it [13:49] by mistake I changed file permission for all files [13:49] :-p [13:49] oh god [13:49] chmod -R 0775 ./ [13:49] :( [13:49] that's gonna be a difficult fix [13:49] from which directory [13:49] I assume / [13:49] from root [13:50] sounds kinda deliberate? [13:50] luckily I can access command line [13:50] it was mistake [13:51] I don't know of any way to fix it wholesale other than to reinstall [13:51] i mean, were you following instructions or something? [13:51] no, it was command in history === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:51] and happened by mistake [13:51] do you regularly use root session? [13:51] or sudo [13:52] actually I installed ubuntu as guest on virtualbox [13:52] yeas I use [13:52] reinstall kinda is the best fix for that. you can get back to something that appears to be working fairly quickly, but you'll forever be hunting down the exceptions [13:53] ok.... thanks for your support [13:53] the main exceptions that'll hurt you are things that should be suid [13:54] you can get away with chmod 755 /usr/bin for e.g. but you can't do that to /sbin because some of those need to be rws (I can't remember the octal for suid) [13:54] suid is one of the easier fixes, since the easy fix would be wrangling it through dpkg [13:54] 2755? [13:55] Yeah, but how do you run sudo if you chmodded it off suid? [13:55] You don't own the files :-) [13:55] Single-user-mode beckons... [13:55] awilkins: reboot single user [13:55] (or a reinstall) [13:55] exactly [13:55] reinstall is pretty much the path of least resistance [13:55] you can get dpkg to reinstall each package, but it won't touch config files that way. and some things (/etc/sudoers is a great example) are very fussy about their permissions [13:56] sounds hardly worth it. system is tainted forver - reinstall [13:56] as an aside - why aren't ACLs used. at all? [13:56] diddledan: they are used, in /dev [13:56] diddledan: the sound device, for instance, gets an ACL allowing the current desktop user to use it [13:57] * MartijnVdS learned that at a UDS years ago :) [13:57] I tried setting a webapp's permissions using ACLs but it complained that it didn't have the clearly obviously applied permissions because I guess it was only checking the standard user/group/other permissions [13:59] shared web hosting is an obvious use-case for ACLs but all the standard webapps will complain that they don't have access when their access is supplied via an ACL rule [13:59] Current background is relevant to me :) http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1366640 [14:00] -_- [14:00] I don't "get" dubsp [14:01] dubstep* [14:01]