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burneranyone hip to UPNP?  Is it possible to somehow make all my sounds from ubuntu come out of my sonos?  like use it as a remote speaker?  I want to run Clementine here and have it come out my UPNP sonos player00:56
holsteinburner: i would just try and make the device connect and do any audio.. what it is?01:13
wilson2bHad a important question, since I now have my Xubuntu mostley setup the way I want it on my T428 (RK3188 chipset) mini-pc02:16
wilson2bis there a easy way to image it / back it up.02:16
wilson2bIm sure once I start messing with it , it will crap out and won't know how to fix it.02:16
holsteinwilson2b: you can use any image tools you like.. clonezilla or whatever02:17
wilson2bbut, I am using a mini-pc02:17
wilson2bflashed it using flashing tools02:17
holsteinwilson2b: flash the image using whatever tools you like.. such as clonezilla or whatever02:17
wilson2bCoolz, so I can create the image with clonezilla and use that reflash?02:18
wilson2bDidn't know they were same format02:18
holsteinwilson2b: nothing about xubuntu is preventing that02:18
holsteinwilson2b: im not sure i understand the question02:19
holsteinwilson2b: you want to image an install.. just use whatever tools you are comfortable using..02:19
wilson2bIt's just that, its running on a mini-pc (android type)02:22
wilson2bUsing these steps, successfully. http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/12/04/how-to-install-and-hack-linux-on-t428-or-mk802-iv-mini-pcs/02:22
holsteinwilson2b: doesnt matter.. you installed, so, you use the same steps to image02:22
wilson2bthe link quickly shows the process02:23
wilson2bThe Kernel and image are seperate files02:23
wilson2bI appreciate your time BTW02:23
holsteinwilson2b: you image it as you please.. if it mounts, you can use dd or whatever02:23
wilson2bOk, thanks will try that02:24
wilson2bIm just surprised it would be that easy.. ;-)02:24
holsteinwilson2b: we dont know that it is. but nothing about xubuntu is preventing it from being normal02:25
holsteinwilson2b: if you can mount and dd copy the image, and mount and dd copy it back, and the device uses it.. then, it'll work.. if not, you'll follow the guide you linked again02:25
vinodhii   I just got a new laptop, the Acer Aspire A 1-572, 64-bit,  with xubuntu Opershang system, and when I shut  the laptop that does not shut down, normally  ba, until  i push the power button for  20 second   :(  help me03:35
holsteinvinod: you dont want to hold the power button down like that... you can break the hardware03:37
holsteinvinod: i would open a terminal and type "sudo shutdown -h now" and/or "sudo halt" and share any relevant output at..03:37
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Kajunfiendalmost paniced there... i had my bar all fked up and i restored it thank god :D04:18
such_coins[help] I'm having problems playing an online HTML5 <canvas> game. The screen seems to draw little bits at a time, making things jagged. When I'm moving, parts of walls can be a few pixels ahead of the rest of the walls. It's kind of like an old movie effect. This definitely is not supposed to happen. Can anyone help me?05:02
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Chansharki know this is sorta a stupid question, but does anyone know how to change the lock screen image?06:39
Unit193Chanshark: Not looked into it much, but thought that was actually compiled in.06:51
Chansharkoh ok06:53
ObrienDavepart of it is in /usr/share/pixmaps/xscreensaver.png07:03
ObrienDavepart of it is in /usr/share/pixmaps/xscreensaver.svg07:05
Unit193Not what the screensaver lock screen pulls, though.07:07
ObrienDaveI think the one I see is: /usr/share/pixmaps/xscreensaver.xpm07:08
ObrienDavedang, i hate being wrong :/07:09
Unit193Yeah, not that one either. :)07:10
ObrienDavedang, that's at least twice tonight. maybe I should just go to bed ;P07:11
Xardas3000hi all09:21
Xardas3000i need manual how to install and autostart x11vnc in 13.04-13.1009:22
Xardas3000you may help me?09:23
koegsXardas3000: yes09:41
Geoff1000I'm getting the 'password to unlock keyring' pop-up nuisancein 13.10. What's the solution?10:28
Geoff1000I've solved it before but I've forgotten.10:29
Geoff1000started after installing the latest Nvidia driver10:29
zack_anyone has suggestions about how to make own xubuntu12.04 live cd? i have tried UCK, but it seems that i can only customize the apps, i also need to customize the appearance.13:15
ubottuInterested in remastering the Ubuntu !LiveCD or !Alternate installer? See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization - Or use tools such as http://uck.sourceforge.net/ or http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/DRU_Disc_Remastering_Utility13:24
xubuntu656Alright theres something thats been bothering me, xubuntu beginner here, how do I change the time on my desktop clock?13:29
ubottuInformation about using and setting your computer's clock on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime - See https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/NTP.html for information on usage of the Network Time Protocol (NTP)13:30
GridCubexubuntu656, ^13:30
brauleincheni need a program that read text directly from a pdf file14:25
GridCube!info orca15:07
ubottuPackage orca does not exist in saucy15:07
GridCube!search orca15:07
GridCube!find orca15:07
ubottuFound: gnome-orca, ngorca15:07
GridCube!info gnome-orca15:08
ubottugnome-orca (source: gnome-orca): Scriptable screen reader. In component main, is optional. Version 3.10.1-0ubuntu0.1 (saucy), package size 733 kB, installed size 5876 kB15:08
GridCubebrauleinchen, ^15:08
brauleinchenorca cool15:08
Orioaoops sorry15:12
Orioais anyone here?15:13
holsteinOrioa: you should be able to see a list of nicks.. if you have a question, just ask16:45
Orioaok ty16:45
Orioai was just wondering what format a wallpaper need to be to use as a log in background16:46
holsteinOrioa: as a "log"?16:46
Orioano a background for the log in window16:47
holsteinOrioa: i would just look at my current one, and emulate it16:47
Orioaok ty16:47
holsteinOrioa: or, search around for guides with drop-ins, and you could repace those with your own images that match the same specs16:48
Orioai will search again16:48
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xubuntu736hi guys, just wanted to let you know I'm experiencing a very slow install from an USB disk18:15
xubuntu736it's not slow to boot from USB, it's slow when installing on a 8core+ssd computer18:16
xubuntu736and when I say slow, I mean, it is still installing, after 3 hours18:17
rowboatnickxubuntu736: are you installing on a usb disk?18:19
koegsxubuntu736: you can try to add the option "toram" while booting from the usb-stick, maybe it will be faster :)18:19
rowboatnickif its from one, it does not make sense, but if its to one, it would18:19
koegsor did you check "install updates from internet" (dont know the real option name) while installing and you have a slow internet connection?18:20
xubuntu736koegs, I suspect that's the issue, although I'm at work...18:20
xubuntu736might be a bad mirror?18:21
xubuntu736it is installing on hdd, because mount shows18:21
xubuntu736- /dev/sdb5 on /target type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)18:21
xubuntu736now, for the last 20 minutes it's staying at "removing extra packages", this doesn't seem to depened on network speed18:22
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xubuntu736will try the "toram" option, bbl18:27
WilsonbWhat is the best option to make image backup for xubuntu running on a mini pc Arm 7 ?18:30
WilsonbI used a windows application to plash seperate fioes on stick.18:31
Wilsonb2What is the best way to complelty backup xubuntu running on a mini pc stick Arm 7?18:47
GridCubeWilsonb2, you mean a whole backup?18:48
ubottuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning18:48
MarcFalckis the invisible tab an xubuntu 14.04 issue?18:56
uflaighello everyone, tried to immigrate to the awesome manager and I'm facing some issues right now, atm it seems I cannot change the gtk interface, can somebody help me out?18:59
brainwashMarcFalck: 14.04 has not been released yet, you should ask in #ubuntu+1, #xubuntu-devel or simply create a launchpad bug report18:59
MarcFalckaha, figured this would be the wrong channel, thanks19:00
brainwashuflaig: you mean the gtk theme?19:00
uflaigbrainwash: I think so19:00
brainwashdid xfsettingsd get started after login?19:01
brainwashI assume that you are not using the default xubuntu session, right?19:01
uflaigbrainwash: it's an awesome session I believe19:02
uflaignot even sure if xfsettingsd got started19:02
uflaigbrainwash: turns out xfsettingsd has not been started19:02
brainwashso does starting it manually allow you to change the theme via the xfce settings manager?19:05
uflaigbrainwash: thanks a lot brainwash, it appears I am able to change the themes now, do you know by any chance how I can autostart xfsettings?19:05
uflaigyes it does19:05
brainwashthis article might be helpful19:06
brainwashon top of that, you should join #awesome for awesome related questions :)19:07
uflaigagain thanks a lot, will read that now, unfortunately I was on #awesome, they thought something was wrong with my gtk19:08
uflaigas you can see it was a xfce related issue19:08
uflaigmore or less19:09
brainwashalternatively you use the xubuntu session and replace xfwm4 by awesome19:10
brainwashreplace with19:10
uflaigthat's possible?19:12
brainwashyes :)19:13
brainwashso you basically replace the window manager which gets loaded after login19:14
brainwash ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-session.xml19:15
uflaighow do I do that? Now that you mention it I remember I read an ubuntu article a few days ago, but it didn't explained it in detail how to do so19:15
brainwashyou open this file and replace "xfwm4" with "awesome"19:17
uflaigmhhhhh, directory xfce-perchannel-xml doesnt exists19:17
uflaigoh wait19:17
brainwashthe next line contains "--replace", it's a parameter for xfwm4 to kill the current window manager before starting, if I recall it correctly, awesome does not provide this option, so you could simply delete this line19:19
brainwash^ :D19:21
koegsi have xfsettingsd in my awesome autostart :)19:22
uflaigoh yeah I remember the first link, didn't changed at all heh, but the second is new19:23
koegsmy way: just start awesome-session via login and then start xfsettingsd (and other thing) via awesome-"autostart"19:23
uflaigkoegs: and by awesome autostart you mean to write it into the rc.lua file?19:25
koegsuflaig: yes19:28
koegshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6607363/ <- my autostart in a seperate lua file19:29
brainwashtoo much awesome talk here :P19:30
uflaigthanks koegs, I will consider that!19:30
SlesaHi all, has anyone an idea why google calendar tab in thunderbird shows garbage?19:35
brainwashsince recently?19:37
brainwashmaybe a faulty thunderbird or addon update19:38
SlesaOn a freshly installed system19:39
SlesaWith 12.10, it looked ok19:39
brainwashI don't use thunderbird or google calendar, so I cannot confirm this issue19:40
SlesaMaybe I'd better look for a better calendar tool19:40
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WilsonbUsing Vino vnc server in xubuntu since Teamviwer wouldnt(get error saying it only works for i386) .. works great but, cant figure out how to get it runng before log in. Menning, I turn on the T428 mini Pc stick and it boots up with vino server running before login20:32
holsteinWilsonb: that just automatically works for me in ubuntu.. are you using stock ubuntu/xubuntu? or some custom distro that is made for that "stick" pc?21:14
holsteinWilsonb: thats an ARM chip, correct?21:14
ubottuARM is a specific (RISC) processor architecture used in a variety of applications such as handhelds and networkdevices. For more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM . For ARM specific support, stop by the #ubuntu-arm channel.21:15
holsteinWilsonb: i would try the arm channel refernced there.. thats closer to what you have than stock xubuntu21:15
holsteinanyways, thats what teamviewer doesnt work21:15
WilsonbOk, thanks21:15
holsteinWilsonb: you can always add whatever is needed to an autostart, manually21:16
pobrichello,can I install xubuntu 13.10 on my older machine 512mb ram 1.8 Ghz processor ? And does it been slow or fast ? please answer correct.21:18
holsteinpobric: yes21:19
pobricslow or fast ?21:19
holsteinpobric: it wont make your machine any faster or slower21:19
holsteinpobric: it'll work as advertised and designed.. are there "faster" options? sure.. but xubuntu is a nice balance or speed and function21:20
holsteinbalance of*21:20
pobric<holstein> whether it will be faster than Linux Mint 13 Xfce?21:22
holsteinpobric: mint is based on ubuntu, and xubuntu uses xfce21:23
holsteinpobric: on that hardware, i would expect similar performance.. nothing is going to make that machine have more memory.. and that is the bottleneck21:24
holsteinpobric: what would i do? look for memory for it.. you can likely max that machine out for under $10 us at some used shop.. or, install a lighter DE into whatever OS you are using21:24
holstein!lubuntu | pobric21:24
ubottupobric: lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.21:24
holsteinpobric: i feel like i could configure xfce and use it just fine on that hardware, however21:25
pobricok ubottu thanks21:25
pobricso how to configure xfce ?21:25
holsteinpobric: ubottu is a bot.. i asked it to get that link for you21:25
holsteinpobric: i configure it to be lighter.. more appropriate for that hardware in question21:25
pobrichooooooooow to configure it to bee lighter and fasterr ?21:26
holsteinpobric: removing things.. using lighter alternatives.. not adding panels.. less and less and less21:26
holsteinpobric: *nothing* will make that hardware any faster.. its just about using less resources21:26
Sysixubuntu's gonna run just fine, but something like a webbrowsr is gonna eat up all of your memory and there's not really much you can do21:26
holsteinyup ^^21:27
pobricok thanks lot21:27
holsteinmemory is so resonable these days...21:27
Sysiddr2 isn't so cheap anymore21:28
holsteinits nothing to sit around and use a machine with 512 of ram over though....21:28
holsteinbetween that and purchasing some memory, id get the wallet out21:28
celldon't all talk at once please22:34
knomecell, this isn't a chatting channel22:35
ubottu#xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!22:35

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