[00:56] <burner> anyone hip to UPNP?  Is it possible to somehow make all my sounds from ubuntu come out of my sonos?  like use it as a remote speaker?  I want to run Clementine here and have it come out my UPNP sonos player
[01:13] <holstein> burner: i would just try and make the device connect and do any audio.. what it is?
[02:16] <wilson2b> Had a important question, since I now have my Xubuntu mostley setup the way I want it on my T428 (RK3188 chipset) mini-pc
[02:16] <wilson2b> is there a easy way to image it / back it up.
[02:16] <wilson2b> Im sure once I start messing with it , it will crap out and won't know how to fix it.
[02:17] <holstein> wilson2b: you can use any image tools you like.. clonezilla or whatever
[02:17] <wilson2b> but, I am using a mini-pc
[02:17] <wilson2b> flashed it using flashing tools
[02:17] <holstein> wilson2b: flash the image using whatever tools you like.. such as clonezilla or whatever
[02:18] <wilson2b> Coolz, so I can create the image with clonezilla and use that reflash?
[02:18] <wilson2b> Didn't know they were same format
[02:18] <holstein> wilson2b: nothing about xubuntu is preventing that
[02:19] <holstein> wilson2b: im not sure i understand the question
[02:19] <holstein> wilson2b: you want to image an install.. just use whatever tools you are comfortable using..
[02:22] <wilson2b> It's just that, its running on a mini-pc (android type)
[02:22] <wilson2b> Using these steps, successfully. http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/12/04/how-to-install-and-hack-linux-on-t428-or-mk802-iv-mini-pcs/
[02:22] <holstein> wilson2b: doesnt matter.. you installed, so, you use the same steps to image
[02:22] <wilson2b> ok,
[02:23] <wilson2b> the link quickly shows the process
[02:23] <wilson2b> The Kernel and image are seperate files
[02:23] <wilson2b> I appreciate your time BTW
[02:23] <holstein> wilson2b: you image it as you please.. if it mounts, you can use dd or whatever
[02:24] <wilson2b> Ok, thanks will try that
[02:24] <wilson2b> Im just surprised it would be that easy.. ;-)
[02:25] <holstein> wilson2b: we dont know that it is. but nothing about xubuntu is preventing it from being normal
[02:25] <holstein> wilson2b: if you can mount and dd copy the image, and mount and dd copy it back, and the device uses it.. then, it'll work.. if not, you'll follow the guide you linked again
[03:35] <vinod> hii   I just got a new laptop, the Acer Aspire A 1-572, 64-bit,  with xubuntu Opershang system, and when I shut  the laptop that does not shut down, normally  ba, until  i push the power button for  20 second   :(  help me
[03:37] <holstein> vinod: you dont want to hold the power button down like that... you can break the hardware
[03:37] <holstein> vinod: i would open a terminal and type "sudo shutdown -h now" and/or "sudo halt" and share any relevant output at..
[03:37] <holstein> !paste
[04:18] <Kajunfiend> almost paniced there... i had my bar all fked up and i restored it thank god :D
[05:02] <such_coins> [help] I'm having problems playing an online HTML5 <canvas> game. The screen seems to draw little bits at a time, making things jagged. When I'm moving, parts of walls can be a few pixels ahead of the rest of the walls. It's kind of like an old movie effect. This definitely is not supposed to happen. Can anyone help me?
[06:39] <Chanshark> i know this is sorta a stupid question, but does anyone know how to change the lock screen image?
[06:51] <Unit193> Chanshark: Not looked into it much, but thought that was actually compiled in.
[06:53] <Chanshark> oh ok
[07:03] <ObrienDave> part of it is in /usr/share/pixmaps/xscreensaver.png
[07:04] <Chanshark> thanks
[07:05] <ObrienDave> part of it is in /usr/share/pixmaps/xscreensaver.svg
[07:05] <ObrienDave> sorry
[07:07] <Unit193> Not what the screensaver lock screen pulls, though.
[07:08] <ObrienDave> I think the one I see is: /usr/share/pixmaps/xscreensaver.xpm
[07:09] <ObrienDave> dang, i hate being wrong :/
[07:10] <Unit193> Yeah, not that one either. :)
[07:11] <ObrienDave> dang, that's at least twice tonight. maybe I should just go to bed ;P
[09:21] <Xardas3000> hi all
[09:22] <Xardas3000> i need manual how to install and autostart x11vnc in 13.04-13.10
[09:23] <Xardas3000> you may help me?
[09:41] <koegs> Xardas3000: yes
[09:42] <koegs> http://seb.so/vnc-from-boot-without-logging-in-ubuntu-lubuntu-xubuntu-and-mint-lmde/
[09:44] <Xardas3000> thx
[10:28] <Geoff1000> I'm getting the 'password to unlock keyring' pop-up nuisancein 13.10. What's the solution?
[10:29] <Geoff1000> I've solved it before but I've forgotten.
[10:29] <Geoff1000> started after installing the latest Nvidia driver
[12:11] <xubuntu509> hi
[13:15] <zack_> anyone has suggestions about how to make own xubuntu12.04 live cd? i have tried UCK, but it seems that i can only customize the apps, i also need to customize the appearance.
[13:24] <GridCube> !customlivecd
[13:29] <xubuntu656> Alright theres something thats been bothering me, xubuntu beginner here, how do I change the time on my desktop clock?
[13:30] <GridCube> !time
[13:30] <GridCube> xubuntu656, ^
[14:25] <brauleinchen> i need a program that read text directly from a pdf file
[15:07] <GridCube> !info orca
[15:07] <GridCube> mmm
[15:07] <GridCube> !search orca
[15:07] <GridCube> !find orca
[15:08] <GridCube> !info gnome-orca
[15:08] <GridCube> brauleinchen, ^
[15:08] <brauleinchen> orca cool
[15:12] <Orioa> #xubuntu-offtopic
[15:12] <Orioa> oops sorry
[15:13] <Orioa> is anyone here?
[16:45] <holstein> Orioa: you should be able to see a list of nicks.. if you have a question, just ask
[16:45] <Orioa> ok ty
[16:46] <Orioa> i was just wondering what format a wallpaper need to be to use as a log in background
[16:46] <holstein> Orioa: as a "log"?
[16:47] <Orioa> no a background for the log in window
[16:47] <holstein> Orioa: i would just look at my current one, and emulate it
[16:47] <Orioa> ok ty
[16:48] <holstein> Orioa: or, search around for guides with drop-ins, and you could repace those with your own images that match the same specs
[16:48] <Orioa> k
[16:48] <Orioa> i will search again
[18:15] <xubuntu736> hi guys, just wanted to let you know I'm experiencing a very slow install from an USB disk
[18:16] <xubuntu736> it's not slow to boot from USB, it's slow when installing on a 8core+ssd computer
[18:17] <xubuntu736> and when I say slow, I mean, it is still installing, after 3 hours
[18:19] <rowboatnick> xubuntu736: are you installing on a usb disk?
[18:19] <koegs> xubuntu736: you can try to add the option "toram" while booting from the usb-stick, maybe it will be faster :)
[18:19] <rowboatnick> if its from one, it does not make sense, but if its to one, it would
[18:20] <koegs> or did you check "install updates from internet" (dont know the real option name) while installing and you have a slow internet connection?
[18:20] <xubuntu736> koegs, I suspect that's the issue, although I'm at work...
[18:21] <xubuntu736> might be a bad mirror?
[18:21] <xubuntu736> it is installing on hdd, because mount shows
[18:21] <xubuntu736> - /dev/sdb5 on /target type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[18:22] <xubuntu736> now, for the last 20 minutes it's staying at "removing extra packages", this doesn't seem to depened on network speed
[18:23] <Wilsonb> Howdy
[18:27] <xubuntu736> will try the "toram" option, bbl
[18:30] <Wilsonb> What is the best option to make image backup for xubuntu running on a mini pc Arm 7 ?
[18:31] <Wilsonb> I used a windows application to plash seperate fioes on stick.
[18:31] <Wilsonb> Flash
[18:43] <Wilsonb2> Test
[18:47] <Wilsonb2> What is the best way to complelty backup xubuntu running on a mini pc stick Arm 7?
[18:48] <GridCube> Wilsonb2, you mean a whole backup?
[18:48] <GridCube> !backup
[18:49] <Wilsonb2> Thanks
[18:55] <MarcFalck> http://oi42.tinypic.com/etvbx4.jpg
[18:56] <MarcFalck> is the invisible tab an xubuntu 14.04 issue?
[18:59] <uflaig> hello everyone, tried to immigrate to the awesome manager and I'm facing some issues right now, atm it seems I cannot change the gtk interface, can somebody help me out?
[18:59] <brainwash> MarcFalck: 14.04 has not been released yet, you should ask in #ubuntu+1, #xubuntu-devel or simply create a launchpad bug report
[19:00] <MarcFalck> aha, figured this would be the wrong channel, thanks
[19:00] <brainwash> uflaig: you mean the gtk theme?
[19:00] <uflaig> brainwash: I think so
[19:01] <brainwash> did xfsettingsd get started after login?
[19:01] <brainwash> I assume that you are not using the default xubuntu session, right?
[19:02] <uflaig> brainwash: it's an awesome session I believe
[19:02] <uflaig> not even sure if xfsettingsd got started
[19:02] <uflaig> brainwash: turns out xfsettingsd has not been started
[19:05] <brainwash> so does starting it manually allow you to change the theme via the xfce settings manager?
[19:05] <uflaig> brainwash: thanks a lot brainwash, it appears I am able to change the themes now, do you know by any chance how I can autostart xfsettings?
[19:05] <uflaig> yes it does
[19:06] <brainwash> this article might be helpful
[19:06] <brainwash> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CustomXSession
[19:07] <brainwash> on top of that, you should join #awesome for awesome related questions :)
[19:08] <uflaig> again thanks a lot, will read that now, unfortunately I was on #awesome, they thought something was wrong with my gtk
[19:08] <uflaig> as you can see it was a xfce related issue
[19:09] <uflaig> more or less
[19:10] <brainwash> alternatively you use the xubuntu session and replace xfwm4 by awesome
[19:10] <brainwash> replace with
[19:12] <uflaig> that's possible?
[19:13] <brainwash> yes :)
[19:14] <brainwash> so you basically replace the window manager which gets loaded after login
[19:15] <brainwash>  ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-session.xml
[19:15] <uflaig> how do I do that? Now that you mention it I remember I read an ubuntu article a few days ago, but it didn't explained it in detail how to do so
[19:17] <brainwash> you open this file and replace "xfwm4" with "awesome"
[19:17] <uflaig> mhhhhh, directory xfce-perchannel-xml doesnt exists
[19:17] <uflaig> oh wait
[19:19] <brainwash> the next line contains "--replace", it's a parameter for xfwm4 to kill the current window manager before starting, if I recall it correctly, awesome does not provide this option, so you could simply delete this line
[19:21] <brainwash> http://askubuntu.com/questions/169880/how-can-i-change-the-xfce-window-manager-to-awesome
[19:21] <brainwash> http://askubuntu.com/questions/143376/how-to-change-xfce4-default-window-manager
[19:21] <brainwash> ^ :D
[19:22] <koegs> i have xfsettingsd in my awesome autostart :)
[19:23] <uflaig> oh yeah I remember the first link, didn't changed at all heh, but the second is new
[19:23] <koegs> my way: just start awesome-session via login and then start xfsettingsd (and other thing) via awesome-"autostart"
[19:25] <uflaig> koegs: and by awesome autostart you mean to write it into the rc.lua file?
[19:28] <koegs> uflaig: yes
[19:29] <koegs> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6607363/ <- my autostart in a seperate lua file
[19:30] <koegs> afk
[19:30] <brainwash> too much awesome talk here :P
[19:30] <uflaig> thanks koegs, I will consider that!
[19:35] <Slesa> Hi all, has anyone an idea why google calendar tab in thunderbird shows garbage?
[19:37] <brainwash> since recently?
[19:38] <brainwash> maybe a faulty thunderbird or addon update
[19:39] <Slesa> On a freshly installed system
[19:39] <Slesa> With 12.10, it looked ok
[19:40] <brainwash> I don't use thunderbird or google calendar, so I cannot confirm this issue
[19:40] <Slesa> Maybe I'd better look for a better calendar tool
[20:32] <Wilsonb> Using Vino vnc server in xubuntu since Teamviwer wouldnt(get error saying it only works for i386) .. works great but, cant figure out how to get it runng before log in. Menning, I turn on the T428 mini Pc stick and it boots up with vino server running before login
[21:14] <holstein> Wilsonb: that just automatically works for me in ubuntu.. are you using stock ubuntu/xubuntu? or some custom distro that is made for that "stick" pc?
[21:14] <holstein> Wilsonb: thats an ARM chip, correct?
[21:15] <holstein> !arm
[21:15] <Wilsonb> Yes
[21:15] <Wilsonb> Rk3188
[21:15] <holstein> Wilsonb: i would try the arm channel refernced there.. thats closer to what you have than stock xubuntu
[21:15] <holstein> anyways, thats what teamviewer doesnt work
[21:15] <Wilsonb> Ok, thanks
[21:16] <holstein> Wilsonb: you can always add whatever is needed to an autostart, manually
[21:18] <pobric> hello,can I install xubuntu 13.10 on my older machine 512mb ram 1.8 Ghz processor ? And does it been slow or fast ? please answer correct.
[21:19] <holstein> pobric: yes
[21:19] <pobric> slow or fast ?
[21:19] <holstein> pobric: it wont make your machine any faster or slower
[21:20] <holstein> pobric: it'll work as advertised and designed.. are there "faster" options? sure.. but xubuntu is a nice balance or speed and function
[21:20] <holstein> balance of*
 whether it will be faster than Linux Mint 13 Xfce?
[21:23] <holstein> pobric: mint is based on ubuntu, and xubuntu uses xfce
[21:24] <holstein> pobric: on that hardware, i would expect similar performance.. nothing is going to make that machine have more memory.. and that is the bottleneck
[21:24] <holstein> pobric: what would i do? look for memory for it.. you can likely max that machine out for under $10 us at some used shop.. or, install a lighter DE into whatever OS you are using
[21:24] <holstein> !lubuntu | pobric
[21:25] <holstein> pobric: i feel like i could configure xfce and use it just fine on that hardware, however
[21:25] <pobric> ok ubottu thanks
[21:25] <pobric> so how to configure xfce ?
[21:25] <holstein> pobric: ubottu is a bot.. i asked it to get that link for you
[21:25] <holstein> pobric: i configure it to be lighter.. more appropriate for that hardware in question
[21:26] <pobric> hooooooooow to configure it to bee lighter and fasterr ?
[21:26] <holstein> pobric: removing things.. using lighter alternatives.. not adding panels.. less and less and less
[21:26] <holstein> pobric: *nothing* will make that hardware any faster.. its just about using less resources
[21:26] <Sysi> xubuntu's gonna run just fine, but something like a webbrowsr is gonna eat up all of your memory and there's not really much you can do
[21:27] <holstein> yup ^^
[21:27] <pobric> ok thanks lot
[21:27] <holstein> memory is so resonable these days...
[21:28] <Sysi> ddr2 isn't so cheap anymore
[21:28] <holstein> its nothing to sit around and use a machine with 512 of ram over though....
[21:28] <holstein> between that and purchasing some memory, id get the wallet out
[22:34] <cell> don't all talk at once please
[22:35] <knome> cell, this isn't a chatting channel
[22:35] <knome> !offtopic