[00:05] <Smashcat> tinox: Have you tried exporting the X server to your local machine over an ssh tunnel? I used to do that with headless HP/UX servers - generally faster than vnc
[00:05] <haha> when i open firefox,my machine become slower and slower, who can tell me which browser is better?
[00:06] <KI7MT> Pick one :-)
[00:06] <KI7MT> !better
[00:06] <tinox> Smashcat, well I actually want to use vnc. We're trying to setup a network where remote employees can RDP to a desktop that looks somewhat familiar to them. Kinda weird
[00:06] <lhz> Installed Ubuntu 13.10 from USB stick on a new PC with Win7 already installed. But PC just boots straight into Win7 after successfull install with /dev/sda set as target for boot loader.
[00:07] <lhz> I have also tried installing boot loader to same partition as Ubuntu root (/dev/sda2), then use EasyBCD in Win7 to add an entry to the Win7 boot loader for Ubuntu, but that just throws me into grub4dos.
[00:07] <tinox> Smashcat, interestingly I did install lubuntu on my local machine to try to replicate the issue, and chromium runs fine. It's only when on the remote server that there is an issue. Maybe a permissions issue with the user?
[00:07] <Smashcat> tinox: Ah ok - you can actually do that with exported x servers to thin clients, but whatever floats your boat :)
[00:07] <lhz> any hints would be welcome
[00:08] <Smashcat> tinox: I'd guess it's permissions too. If it's not creating the directories - but it could be the X server having problems with settings etc on a headless machine
[00:08] <Beldar> lhz, the boot goes into the mbr sda if a msdos setup.
[00:09] <lhz> Beldar: yeah that is what I normally do, and it usually works, but this time it just boots into Win7 directly, no sign of grub on the mbr.
[00:09] <tinox> Smashcat, do you have any suggestions on how I would test that out? I'm pretty new to all of this
[00:10] <KI7MT> lhz, sounds like you've done all the right things .. you could try running: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[00:10] <niner> UBuntu 13.10 question:  I've added 'ForwardX11 yes' to /etc/ssh/ssh_config, I've got putty on my windows set up to tunnel X appropriately (works on Centos/Solaris servers also in my basement).... yet I can't get X applications to open on the Windows workstation upstairs.    ( Yes, I'm running XMing )
[00:10] <Beldar> lhz, use this tool JUST the bootinfo summary and podt the url to it. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[00:10] <Beldar> post*
[00:10] <Smashcat> tinox: Have you checked the log from the xserver?
[00:11] <lhz> Beldar, KI7MT: will give it a try. PS: The Ubuntu installer didn't detect Win7 as an existing OS either, just listed the NTFS partition.
[00:11] <Beldar> lhz, We have seen oem W7 running on uefi computers that is my guess.
[00:12] <tinox> Smshcat, how would I do that? Is it that .xsession-errors? If so, I posted them here... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2194560&page=2&p=12878024#post12878024
[00:12] <tinox> ^^Smashcat
[00:14] <Beldar> lhz, Have you made the recovery disc in W7, and have you imaged/cloned it to an external?
[00:14] <Smashcat> tinox: It could be that the system is attempting to use hardware acceleration, which almost certainly isn't available. Try to disable that in the xserver config (can't remember what it's named now - been about 5 years since I used a Linux box with a GUI :) )
[00:14] <lhz> Beldar: I have a Gigabyte GA-Z87N which claims to have "UEFI DualBIOSÂâSS"
[00:15] <lhz> minus all the extra garbage chars at the end there...
[00:15] <tinox> Snashcat, thanks for the tip! I'll look into it and give it a shot
[00:15] <Smashcat> tinox: good luck!
[00:15] <Beldar> lhz, The bootrepiar app may fix it if you installed correctly, I will give you the uefi wiki next.
[00:15] <Beldar> !uefi | lhz
[00:16] <lhz> Beldar: no, I have usb stick with bootable win7 on it just in case, but wouldn't hurt to clone the install I guess.
[00:17] <Beldar> lhz, Cool the install media is good to have I would clone it just to be covered for any possibility.
[00:17] <tinox> Smashcat thanks!
[00:20] <Beldar> lhz, with this dual boot as well you have to shut windows down every time to boot ubuntu, no fast hybrid boot, that may be what is causing a no grub read of a boot if you have been.
[00:23] <adam_> I have made my own ssl certificate on a server at home. I'm now connecting from my laptop. All pages pop up "untrusted certificate". I have a podcast on there and clementine errors out with ssl handshake error when I try to add it
[00:23] <adam_> how do I trust my own cert?
[00:24] <m00xdem00x> Can someone recommend me an IRC Channel which discusses Audio Signal Processing ?
[00:24] <lhz> Beldar: ok, will try booting from the ubuntu usb stick now then install Boot-Repair and see if that helps.
[00:25] <Gumby> selt signed certs generally arent trusted by default because they arent signed by a CA
[00:26] <kostkon> !alis | m00xdem00x
[00:26] <Guest47689> I keep getting this error when trying to play a dvd on ubuntu 13.10 64 bit Playback failure:
[00:26] <Guest47689> DVDRead could not open the disc "/dev/dvd".
[00:26] <Guest47689> Your input can't be opened:
[00:26] <Guest47689> VLC is unable to open the MRL 'dvd:///dev/dvd'. Check the log for details.
[00:26] <FloodBot1> Guest47689: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:27] <m00xdem00x> kostkon: Thanks! :)
[00:30] <Guest47689> can anyone plz help me I can't play a dvd on ubuntu 13.10 i get this error http://pastebin.com/5mFyY2Tg
[00:33] <Smashcat> Guest47689: It'll be the permissions for the dvd device. Probably the mount options need to be changed
[00:34] <Guest47689> I am new to it how would i do that
[00:36] <Smashcat> Guest47689: Just google for "dvd permissions ubuntu" and I'm sure you'll see the answer :) Lots of people have trouble with the CD/DVD for the same reason. I think there's a also a group in Ubuntu that a user can be added to, to access the Cd/DVD by default
[00:36] <tdannecy> After installing ElementaryOS alongside Win 7, I can't get Windows to show up in Grub. I've tried using boot-repair, but the Windows partition still doesn't show up in Grub. Any suggestions? Here's the boot-repair info: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6608565/
[00:36] <Guest47689> k thanks
[00:36] <Smashcat> np
[00:37] <lhz> Beldar, KI7MT: Boot-Repair finally got me into grub at boot, so I can now boot into Ubuntu. It did not detect Win7 though, so it wasn't added to the grub menu. Hope that is not too hard to fix?
[00:41] <alecb> I removed the apt xmonad package and installed xmonad via cabal, but xmonad happened to be my default login session at the time, and now I can't seem to log in at all (ie, no session chooser thing at the login screen, trying to login just sends me back to the login screen).
[00:42] <hitsujiTMO_> !text | alecb
[00:44] <alecb> hitsujiTMO_: I mean I can just Ctrl+Alt+F2 to get to a shell
[00:45] <hitsujiTMO_> alecb: ahh... do you have xmonad installed now? from cabal?
[00:45] <alecb> hitsujiTMO_: yup
[00:45] <hitsujiTMO_> alecb: edit your .xsession   to point to it
[00:46] <alecb> hitsujiTMO_: and that should fix w/e problem I'm having now? atm I can't login to gnome, unity, anything
[00:47] <hitsujiTMO_> alecb: what dm are you using?
[00:48] <alecb> hitsujiTMO_: none? like normally I just run xmonad w/ xmobar and trayer. atm I can't login to any dms
[00:48] <hitsujiTMO_> alecb: as in what login manager? lightdm?
[00:48] <alecb> hitsujiTMO_: yeah I think so -- that's the default ubuntu one, right?
[00:49] <hitsujiTMO_> alecb: and are they not giving you any options for other shells or no matter what you choose is it just spitting you back to lightdm?
[00:51] <alecb> hitsujiTMO_: the thing I normally click on to choose a session isn't appearing
[00:52] <hitsujiTMO_> alecb: interesting. not sure what could have cause that. what you can try and do is edit the lightdm config and specify a default session. sudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.com
[00:52] <hitsujiTMO_> alecb: interesting. not sure what could have cause that. what you can try and do is edit the lightdm config and specify a default session. sudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[00:53] <hitsujiTMO_> alecb: you can add a line like:      user-session=unity
[00:54] <alecb> hitsujiTMO_: right now there's a user-session=ubuntu line in my /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[00:54] <hitsujiTMO_> alecb: is it commented out?
[00:54] <alecb> hitsujiTMO_: nope -- I can pastebin the file, h/o
[00:55] <hitsujiTMO_> alecb: nah thats ok.
[00:55] <alecb> hitsujiTMO_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6608743/ (did it anyway)
[00:56] <hitsujiTMO_> alecb: is there a file ~/.xsession ?
[00:56] <tdannecy> After installing ElementaryOS alongside Win 7, I can't get Windows to show up in Grub. I've tried using boot-repair, but the Windows partition still doesn't show up in Grub. Any suggestions? Here's the boot-repair info: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6608565/
[00:56] <alecb> hitsujiTMO_: nope
[00:58] <hitsujiTMO_> alecb: thats a little bizarre. ok, is there a: ls -l /etc/alternatives/x-session-manager
[00:59] <alecb> hitsujiTMO_: yup, symlinked to /usr/bin/gnome-session
[01:00] <hitsujiTMO_> alecb: hmm, weird. ok do this: echo "ubuntu" ~/.xsession
[01:00] <hitsujiTMO_> alecb: then try login from lightdm again
[01:02] <alecb> hitsujiTMO_: still nothing :(
[01:03] <hitsujiTMO_> alecb: must be an issue with some config in your home folder then. did you use compix with xmonad at all?
[01:03] <alecb> hitsujiTMO_: nope
[01:03] <hitsujiTMO_> alecb: did you call any graphical apps with sudo?
[01:04] <alecb> hitsujiTMO_: like, ever? I don't think so, but maybe
[01:05] <Someus> Hello I tried to make bootable usb Debian.iso but i got this error: http://i41.tinypic.com/23h0tvm.png. What does it mean?
[01:05] <hitsujiTMO_> alecb: running a graphical app with sudo can cause important files in your home to become owned by root and cause this kind of error. maybe try: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /home/$USER
[01:06] <hitsujiTMO_> Someus: are you trying to use ubuntu startup disk creator or something?
[01:06] <Someus> Yes hitsujiTMO_
[01:07] <Someus> I wanted to test Debian distro
[01:07] <Someus> But couldnt burn it to USB
[01:07] <hitsujiTMO_> Someus: that only works for ubuntu .iso files. install unetbootin and use that instead
[01:07] <Someus> really?
[01:07] <Someus> Only for ubuntu?
[01:07] <Someus> Also i couldnt select Fedora distro iso. It just wont appear
[01:08] <Someus> Im tired of Linux bugs :(
[01:08] <askm> hey, does anyone here have an idea how to make ubuntu use intel hD 4000 instead of nvidia graphics card>
[01:08] <alecb> hitsujiTMO_: tried it, and also rebooted. still no session chooser showing up
[01:08] <hitsujiTMO_> Someus: not a bug, thats just a tool specific to ubuntu isos.
[01:09] <hitsujiTMO_> alecb: can you log in tho?
[01:09] <Someus> Oh okay
[01:09] <alecb> hitsujiTMO_: no
[01:09] <hitsujiTMO_> alecb: hmm some other config amiss then. one thing to be sure is can you try make a new user (adduser username) and see if you can log into that
[01:10] <Someus> hitsujiTMO_: how can i install Gnome 3 on Ubuntu 13.10?
[01:11] <hitsujiTMO_> Someus: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[01:11] <Someus> Thank you
[01:11] <Someus> Also a question why Debian has so many iso DVD's?
[01:12] <alecb> hitsujiTMO_: hm, so desktop appeared with a mouse, I can right-click and drag and stuff, but no launchers, status bars, etc.
[01:13] <alecb> hitsujiTMO_: I tried doing the change desktop background from the right-click menu -- the window that popped up looks all messed up (eg, no close/minimize buttons)
[01:14] <hitsujiTMO_> alecb: sounds like you've got some sort of graphical issue so. what gpu do you have?
[01:16] <alecb> hitsujiTMO_: my lspci: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6608820/
[01:16] <hitsujiTMO_> alecb: so like an intel hd 3000 ???
[01:16] <alecb> hitsujiTMO_: although idk, doesn't feel like a graphics issue to me. more like the relevant window manager for unity or something like that isn't installed
[01:17] <alecb> hitsujiTMO_: yeah I think that's what I have -- is there a way to check for sure?
[01:17] <hitsujiTMO_> alecb: what cpu do you have?
[01:17] <hitsujiTMO_> alecb: what version of ubuntu is this btw?
[01:17] <alecb> hitsujiTMO_: i5-3210M
[01:18] <alecb> hitsujiTMO_: 13.04 or 12.10 -- how do you check that?
[01:18] <Toyraztory> how can i install the beta amd catalyst?
[01:18] <hitsujiTMO_> alecb: yeah an intel hd somethingsomething at least. can you run: cat /etc/issue
[01:18] <hitsujiTMO_> Toyraztory: try xorg edgers maybe
[01:19] <Toyraztory> i have the run file?
[01:19] <Toyraztory> xorg
[01:19] <Toyraztory> ok ty will look into it
[01:19] <alecb> hitsujiTMO_: it's 13.04
[01:19] <hitsujiTMO_> Toyraztory: better to use a repo than the version from amd
[01:20] <Toyraztory> is repo much more terminal applicable?
[01:20] <hitsujiTMO_> Toyraztory: you no. repos are for aything
[01:20] <hitsujiTMO_> alecb: can you pastebin the content of /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:22] <alecb> hitsujiTMO_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6608833/
[01:23] <alecb> hitsujiTMO_: lol I got it, just had to apt-get install unity
[01:23] <alecb> alecb: seemed to fix it
[01:23] <hitsujiTMO_> alecb: ahh cool. you mush have removed it after all. yeah no errors in your xorg
[01:23] <askm> sorry to re-ask, but, does anyone here have an idea how to make ubuntu use intel hD 4000 instead of nvidia graphics card?
[01:24] <hitsujiTMO_> askm: desktop or laptop?
[01:24] <askm> laptop
[01:24] <askm> lenovo ideapad y410p
[01:24] <askm> to be specific
[01:24] <hitsujiTMO_> askm: what gpu?
[01:25] <askm> so i have a nvidia geforce gt 755M
[01:25] <askm> the problem im facing
[01:25] <hitsujiTMO_> its using the intel gpu then
[01:25] <askm> is i cant use unity 3d
[01:26] <askm> while on my other laptop (dell latitude e4300)
[01:26] <askm> which only has intel hd
[01:26] <askm> I can use unity 3d
[01:26] <hitsujiTMO_> askm: in what way can't you use unity 3d?
[01:26] <askm> i dont know. it just does not happen
[01:26] <hitsujiTMO_> askm: what driver did you install for the nvidia?
[01:26] <askm> i did not install anything. i tried using nvidia-current
[01:27] <askm> but that did not help
[01:27] <hitsujiTMO_> askm: can you pastebin the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:27] <askm> ok
[01:28] <lagbox> hello
[01:28] <lagbox> would anyone like to help me get my hdmi audio working with radeon drivers in 13.10 ... i have tried everything online i can
[01:29] <lagbox> there was a time that device used to show up in my sound settings but no longer ... and i have already added radeon.audio=1
[01:31] <askm> http://pastebin.com/uH8fRFjv
[01:31] <teenox> I'm completely stumped on not being able to run Chromium on a remote VPS. Can anyone help me out here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/393517/lubuntu-why-wont-chromium-to-run
[01:32] <askm> @HitsujiTMO_, Im going to rejoin as "askm2"
[01:32] <askm> in 1 second
[01:33] <askm2> ok hitsujiTMO_, askm here
[01:33] <hitsujiTMO_> askm2: delete the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:34] <askm2> ok
[01:34] <hitsujiTMO_> askm2: then reboot
[01:34] <askm2> and then? because the last time I did that, my resolution was very wierd
[01:34] <askm2> got stuck at 640x480
[01:34] <askm2> and then I had to change the hsnc and vsync vars in the xorg.conf file
[01:34] <askm2> *hsynv
[01:34] <askm2> **hsync
[01:36] <askm2> anyways, I'll do it  now, brb in like a minute
[01:39] <askm> so I jsut rebotted, but Im still suing unity 2D. I checked this by typing "echo $DESKTOP_SESSION" into terminal, and it returned "ubuntu 2d"
[01:40] <askm> *just rebooted *using
[01:41] <hitsujiTMO_> askm: can you try changing th shell at lightdm?
[01:41] <askm> how do I do that?
[01:41] <hitsujiTMO_> askm: where you normally login you should also have an option to change shells
[01:41] <askm> ok, let me log out and login again
[01:43] <askm_> so I logged out and logged in again, and I chose "Ubuntu" as the option "by clicking on the top right icon". It still gives me ubuntu 2D
[01:44] <hitsujiTMO_> askm_: hrm... can you edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and make sure user-session=ubuntu
[01:44] <askm_> ok
[01:45] <askm_> its that value right now
[01:46] <hitsujiTMO_> askm_: hrmm. what about ~/.dmrc
[01:46] <askm_> it says
[01:47] <askm_> [Desktop]
[01:47] <askm_> session=ubuntu
[01:47] <askm_> thats it
[01:47] <hitsujiTMO_> hrmmm... so you should be in unity 3d then. hrm...
[01:47] <hitsujiTMO_> askm_: what version of ubuntu is this? 12.04?
[01:48] <askm_> yeah
[01:48] <askm_> 12.04 LTS
[01:49] <teenox> possible solution to my inability to run chromium on libuntu via vnc... What's happening is that Chrome is displaying on your local X server instead of a remote one. Unfortunately, the bug is open in the official Chrome project, which means there isn't an immediate solution that's elegant, but some users on the bug report have managed to get it working by basically making two config directories for Chrome, one for each X server, and r
[01:49] <teenox> Just don't know how to resolve that Chromium issue
[01:50] <hitsujiTMO_> teenox: does the fix not work for chromium? they're practically the same app
[01:50] <hitsujiTMO_> askm_: hmm, kinda stumped on what would be overriding the session manager.
[01:51] <askm_> ok. do u think this is not a nvidia driver issue?
[01:51] <askm_> like, because I dont have OpenGL support
[01:51] <askm_> i know that because when I do
[01:52] <teenox> hitsujiTMO_ I have a feeling it will fix the issue, I just can't figure out exactly how to make 2 config directories and run them seperately
[01:52] <askm_> the ocmmand "/usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p"
[01:52] <askm_> I get
[01:52] <askm_> the error
[01:52] <Beldar> askm_, be careful not to use the enter key as punctuation.
[01:53] <askm_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0". Error: GLX is not available on the system
[01:53] <askm_> Sorry about that Beldar
[01:53] <Beldar> askm_, No biggie just makes it hard to consolidate the info. ;)
[01:54] <hitsujiTMO_> askm_: That would be a botchup from installing nvidia driver the way you did, or the i915 driver you're using doesn't fully support your intel gpu.
[01:54] <askm_> ok, so is there a way to fully uninstall and reinstall the nvidia driver?
[01:55] <askm_> oh and btw, if this helps
[01:55] <hitsujiTMO_> sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current
[01:55] <askm_> there is no xorg.conf file unde rthe directory /etc/X11
[01:55] <hitsujiTMO_> askm_: no xorg.conf is good for intel
[01:55] <askm_> ok
[01:56] <askm_> i will run the apt-get remove
[01:57] <zykotick9> askm_: fyi, not having an xorg.conf would explain why nvidia driver isn't working - it's required
[01:58] <askm_> ok
[01:58] <zykotick9> askm_: "sudo nvidia-xconfig" would create one
[01:58] <askm_> so I should run apt-get remove, and then reinstall using info on this page - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
[01:58] <askm_> ok let me try that
[01:59] <zykotick9> askm_: after xorg.conf is there, restart your computer
[01:59] <hitsujiTMO_> zykotick9: its not there because i got him to delete it
[01:59] <askm_> so here's the problem with this xorg.conf file taht get s generated
[02:00] <hitsujiTMO_> zykotick9: he also has an optimus gpu so should not need an xork.conf either
[02:00] <zykotick9> hitsujiTMO_: OH!  sorry.  askm_ ignorme me (sorry jumped into something, when i shouldn't have)
[02:00] <askm_> it sets HorizSync and VertRefresh to values between 28 - 33 and 43 - 72 respectively
[02:00] <askm_> however
[02:00]  * zykotick9 hears the words "optimus" and runs away.  hitsujiTMO_ SORRY!
[02:00] <hitsujiTMO_> :P
[02:00] <askm_> that limits me to a resolution of 640x480
[02:00] <askm_> haha ok
[02:01] <hitsujiTMO_> askm_: it does that because the gpu isnt directly conected to the display and falls back on your intel gpu with messed up settings. hence why you should not have a xorg.conf when using an optimus card
[02:01] <askm_> alright i will delete that
[02:02] <askm_> so should I still uninstall nvidia drivers using "sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current"
[02:02] <askm_> and then reinstall using info from the page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual ?
[02:03] <hitsujiTMO_> askm_: first uninstall. then test to see if you get unity-3d working
[02:04] <tis_himself> I am running  13.10 - After a recent  round of patches, I recently lost the ability to authenticate to my wireless router
[02:04] <askm_> ok
[02:04] <hitsujiTMO_> tis_himself: have you deleted your entry for the router and re added it?
[02:04] <askm_> so now that I uninstalled, reboot?
[02:04] <hitsujiTMO_> askm_: yups
[02:05] <ubuntu3838> Hello,  I am running Ubuntu 12.04 32-bit and I am having a problem where my screen will freeze randomly, I can still hear everything in the background
[02:05] <tis_himself> well no
[02:05] <askm_> alright, be back in a minute or so
[02:05] <tis_himself> lemme try that ..
[02:05] <Beldar> ubuntu3838, Do you know what swapping is?
[02:06] <ubuntu3838> swapping?
[02:06] <ubuntu3838> not really
[02:06] <Beldar> ubuntu3838, You have a swap partition at some point in using the ram it will start to use the swap, this can be a what is going on
[02:07] <ubuntu3838> oh I know what your talking about now
[02:08] <askm> ok so i uninstalled, and rebooted
[02:08] <askm> no change
[02:08] <Beldar> ubuntu3838, generally at around 60% of ram use you can change the swappiness and use htop to see what's using up the memory, just a guess here though.
[02:08] <JoshuaP> can anyone help with this? - http://screencloud.net/v/dVt4
[02:09] <toddel123> Congrats on a great OS, I love Ubuntu and know you guys world really hard on it.:)
[02:09] <Sonderblade> im trying to remove emacs using apt-get remove emacs23, but when i try that, apt wants to install xemacs 21 for some reason, why?
[02:09] <xangua> !gpgerr | JoshuaP
[02:11] <tis_himself> hitsujiTMO_, deleting the connection didn't help .. whats odd is this: I have two routers ..one has a password and the other is open only allowing access by MAC address
[02:12] <tis_himself> I can - am using the one using MAC addreeses but it fails on the password protected one
[02:12] <tis_himself> keeps prompting me for  a password
[02:13] <hitsujiTMO_> Sonderblade: because you have another application installed that has a dependency on emacs23 | emacs21, so its installign emacs21 to resolv that dependency
[02:14] <hitsujiTMO_> tis_himself: I have that issue with one of my usb cards, but I had to fix it by removing networkmanager and configuring it with wpa_supplicant manually
[02:14] <JoshuaP> xangua: thanks
[02:14] <JoshuaP> how do i view a list of installed packages?
[02:15] <hitsujiTMO_> joshhua: dokg --get-selections
[02:15] <tis_himself> thing is it worked...
[02:15] <tis_himself> for several weeks .. now no dice
[02:15] <JoshuaP> hitsujiTMO_: thanks
[02:16] <tis_himself> I suspect a patch .. but not sure
[02:17] <Sonderblade> hitsujiTMO_: then how do i know what package it is that has that dependency?
[02:17] <Toyraztory> how do I cd to downloads?
[02:19] <hitsujiTMO_> Sonderblade: erm, not quite sure how to follow deps that way.
[02:19] <varunendra> tis_himself, what is the problem ?
[02:19] <Beldar> Toyraztory, cd ~/Downloads
[02:19] <Beldar> or Download what ever the file name is
[02:21] <Sonderblade> hitsujiTMO_: i figured it out by trial and error that it was haskell-mode,
[02:21] <askm> umm, hitsujuTMO, sorry for repeating, but I rebooted and no change in unity. still using 2d
[02:22] <hitsujiTMO_> askm: hrrm, thinking an issue with the driver then. were you in uniy 2d from day one?
[02:22] <askm> yeah
[02:23] <tis_himself> varunendra, I have been running 13.10 for about 3 weeks
[02:23] <tis_himself> Long time Ubuntu user however ..
[02:24] <tis_himself> the wireless has worked fine but suddenly I have a odd problem
[02:24] <hitsujiTMO_> tis_himself: maybe have a look in your apt log for any updates to networkmanager or some other related packages
[02:24] <tis_himself> oK ..
[02:26] <teenox> hitsujiTMO_ regarding chromium issue. I tried this at terminal which didn't seem to helo: chromium-browser --user-data-dir=~/.config/chromium/$DISPLAY "$@"
[02:27] <teenox> hitsujiTMO_ any tips on another way to go about making two config directories for Chrome, one for each X server, and running them totally separately?
[02:28] <hitsujiTMO_> teenox: No ideas i'm afraid
[02:29] <teenox> hitsujiTMO_ k, thanks. Getting desperate lol
[02:29] <devyncjohnson> What ideas? I just got here.
[02:30] <varunendra> tis_himself, for a detailed diagnostics report, you may use this script : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12350385
[02:32] <devyncjohnson> Are wanting to know what details to include or how to include such details?
[02:34] <pfifo> hello world
[02:39] <pfifo> :/ taking 20 minutes to unpack a replacement chromium-browser on my server
[02:40] <computerguy901> hello
[02:41] <computerguy901> who'a
[02:41] <computerguy901> who's programming tonight?
[02:41] <KI7MT> I am :-)
[02:42] <pfifo> not me ubuntu support is on my schedule
[02:42] <computerguy901> what systems are you using?
[02:43] <computerguy901> how about ArtistX?
[02:43] <KI7MT> Linux .. bash .. writing a big set of scripts to do daily build of an app called WSJT-X
[02:43] <computerguy901> where are you located?
[02:43] <computerguy901> Europe?
[02:43] <KI7MT> US
[02:43] <computerguy901> Asia?
[02:43] <pfifo> the 7 gives his location away
[02:43] <pfifo> :)
[02:43] <computerguy901> have you tried Ultimate Edition 3.4?
[02:44] <KI7MT> LOL
[02:44] <KI7MT> Nope
[02:44] <computerguy901> good one!
[02:44]  * varunendra yawns!
[02:44] <computerguy901> so, there are script writers in here
[02:44] <bekks> KI7MT: big set? I've done the same, for a bunch of custom applications in one script, including building packages, taring them, release-wise, etc. :)
[02:44] <computerguy901> no Windows guys?
[02:44] <bekks> computerguy901: Some, yes. :)
[02:45] <computerguy901> Windows 8?
[02:45] <bekks> computerguy901: no windows.
[02:45] <daftykins> computerguy901: funnily enough a channel called #ubuntu doesn't have too much connection with Windows
[02:45] <computerguy901> good news!
[02:45] <computerguy901> I am using Ultimate Edition and it is really cool!
[02:46] <KI7MT> bekks, there's allot to it, You'd ahve to llok up the WSJTX suite, there several applicaitons, multiple platforms, Debug, Release, Current Release Daily SVN's of each etc.
[02:46] <bekks> computerguy901: we dont care about windows.
[02:46] <pfifo> has as much coinnection as batman has vconnection with the joker
[02:46] <computerguy901> I need a programmer
[02:47] <bekks> KI7MT: And whats the point of not using one script? I did a script that generate a new svn release, build all deps, build the release, build all subreleases - not even 100 lines ;)
[02:47] <tis_himself> OK varunendra I have run the script .. how do I get it to you?
[02:47] <tis_himself> get the results I mean
[02:47] <bekks> KI7MT: Oh, and I am using the scriptt template for scripting, and incorporated log4sh for logging.
[02:48] <bekks> KI7MT: read: one script :)
[02:48] <KI7MT> bekks, there's lose to 20k lines already, somethign like I dont know 100 functions or so, I dont like to scroll :-)
[02:48] <varunendra> tis_himself, run the script as suggested in that post > upload the generated report to pastebin.ubuntu.com and give us its link.
[02:48] <computerguy901> do you get paid for this?
[02:48] <bekks> computerguy901: scripting is part of my daily work. It involves gaining knowledge to script in private.
[02:49] <computerguy901> that is cool, but where is the money?
[02:49] <bekks> computerguy901: In my pocket.
[02:49] <KI7MT> computerguy901, In my bank :-)
[02:50] <computerguy901> Microsoft is stuck in money land, so it's Linux time!
[02:51] <pfifo> computerguy901: under my matress
[02:51] <bekks> computerguy901: professional linux is stuck in moneyland too.
[02:51] <computerguy901> so true!
[02:52] <computerguy901> how about developing an open system for everyone ala Stone Soup?
[02:53] <pfifo> my vlc icon is wearing a santa hat... but i celebrate holiday. how can i get it wearing an eye patch?
[02:54] <tis_himself> OK here you go: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6609163/
[02:54] <computerguy901> sounds like there might be some script kiddies in here!
[02:57] <varunendra> tis_himself, you seem connected. The report from when you can't would be better.
[02:57] <tis_himself> ok ... hmm
[02:58] <carlosf> +/quit
[02:58] <witeds> i could use some help geting my wireless card to work i am using default network management and my wirless card comes online but dont connect ifconfig shows it working iwconfig shows it not connected
[02:59] <tis_himself> when i try to connect it trys the non-working router the  flips over to the working one.. but I can run it after the first prompt for password
[02:59] <tis_himself> so I'll be back in a few
[03:00] <witeds> to get it working i have to ifdown wlan1 then ifup wlan1
[03:00] <pfifo> it looks like he connects and disconnects too much
[03:01] <netismbl> Hi, I'm having a problem when I log into gnome...screen goes all skewy. It seems to affect only a couple of users. I think it's a config file issue in the user's home directory. Best place to get help?
[03:01] <askm> ok, so, I fucked up
[03:02] <xangua> !language | askm
[03:02] <varunendra> witeds, please try this script to generate a detailed report : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12350385 , then upload the report to pastebin and give us its link
[03:02] <askm> first, I tried installing noveau to get unity 3d working
[03:03] <askm> so I do "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-noveau"
[03:03] <askm> and install a few dependencies it needed
[03:03] <askm> but when I reboot
[03:03] <askm> I get the error
[03:03] <askm> "could not write bytes: broken pipe"
[03:04] <tis_himself> OK varunendra try this one please: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6609184/
[03:04] <askm> so Im like, OK, I ned to google that
[03:04] <askm> I google that error
[03:04] <askm> and use the solution at
[03:04] <askm> http://askubuntu.com/questions/41681/blank-screen-after-installing-nvidia-restricted-driver
[03:05] <askm> to do that I first boot into ubuntu by holding "shift" while booting
[03:05] <varunendra> tis_himself, is that the "2WIRE310" AP that you want to connect?
[03:05] <pfifo> !enter | askm
[03:05] <askm> im using rEFInd and not GRUB
[03:06] <askm> so I hold shift as soon as I select the ubuntu option
[03:06] <askm> anyways
[03:07] <askm> now I am getting logged into a screen that says
[03:07] <askm> "Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS [Ubuntu name] tty1"
[03:07] <tis_himself> yes
[03:07] <tis_himself> its 2WIRE310
[03:07] <askm> "[ubuntu name] login:"
[03:07] <askm> and then
[03:07] <askm> I googel again
[03:07] <askm> *googled
[03:08] <Gaston_AR> Sorry for may english...NVIDIA: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has version 304.88, but this NVDIA driver component has version 304.108
[03:08] <askm> and I found that I had to type "startx"
[03:08] <Gaston_AR> I only get a prompt
[03:08] <askm> but that gets stuck
[03:09] <varunendra> tis_himself, first of all, it is highly recommended to change that router's encryption type to pure WPA2-PSK with AES or CCMP (same things). Currently it is using WPA/WPA2 mixed mode with TKIP which is very inefficient at both speed and security and isn't as well supported on Linux as WPA2 with AES
[03:10] <tis_himself> OK - it belongs to Uverse and it's the default
[03:10] <Home555> вв
[03:11] <varunendra> So it's not under your control tis_himself ?
[03:11] <tis_himself> well ... in theory it is.
[03:11] <tis_himself> it's in my basement :)
[03:12] <Beldar> askm, Have you tried a higher release live session, 2d was incorporated in later releases?
[03:13] <tis_himself> and of course it works with the windows 8 side of this laptop
[03:13] <askm> i havent tried that yet
[03:13] <Gaston_AR> Anybody is having problem with Nvidia in 12.0.4.3 ? (sorry for my poor english)
[03:13] <varunendra> tis_himself, it was recommended to optimise the transmission, although we should be able to do without that 'optimisation'.
[03:13] <askm> is there a way for me to install a new higher version
[03:13] <askm> using usb boot?
[03:13] <Beldar> askm, I would download a 13.10 and check it.
[03:13] <askm> but install it on top of this version
[03:13] <askm> like I dont want to partition even more now
[03:14] <Beldar> askm, usb yes, dual boot it or install, I would start with seeing if it runs.
[03:14] <askm> i dont have much of personal files so that shouldnt be a problem
[03:14] <askm> ok Beldar. thanks
[03:14] <askm> one more question
[03:14] <askm> since my laptop uses UEFI to boot
[03:14] <varunendra> tis_himself, on the driver side, please try this - "sudo modprobe -rv rtl8188ee" ..... then ..... "sudo modprobe -v rtl8188ee fwlps=0"
[03:15] <askm> will I have to do any additional steps to make sure that stays the same?
[03:15] <Gaston_AR> varunendra can you help me please?
[03:15] <varunendra> tis_himself, don't reboot after the above command as the change is temporary and will be lost at next boot. If it helps, it can be made permanent.
[03:16] <Beldar> askm, I'm not real up on uefi installs but there is the wiki and an excellent thread on uefi installs on the ubuntu forums and great support there on these dual boot types.
[03:16] <varunendra> Gaston_AR, I don't know much about graphics issues, other than suggesting the "nomodeset" option to everyone
[03:17] <tim`> installing cpufreqd on the latest 13.10 results in a segfault
[03:18] <tim`> x86_64
[03:18] <tis_himself> varunendra, nope
[03:19] <tis_himself> same response
[03:19] <askm> @Beldar, before I do a 13.10, is there any way for me to revert al those changes so I can login to ubuntu graphical interface and not into tty1?
[03:19] <varunendra> Gaston_AR, have you read this wiki : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia ?? May get you going
[03:20] <varunendra> !bootoptions | Gaston_AR besides, see the available boot options
[03:20] <Beldar> askm, I have not followed the circumstances fully, my idea is just to see if the live session works, if it does then the install should if tweaked correctly, theoretically.
[03:21] <Beldar> askm, And 14.04 is 4 months from release the next LTS.
[03:23] <askm> the steps I took on pastebin: http://pastebin.com/21kBrVR4
[03:23] <Beldar> askm, YOU also might try the ubuntu forums with the problem at hand many more users there.
[03:23] <varunendra> tis_himself, another parameter you may try is "swenc" with the same driver - "sudo modprobe -rv rtl8188ee" .... then .... "sudo modprobe -v rtl8188ee swenc=Y"
[03:24] <askm> @Beldar thanks for those resources! I will definitely post on the forums if I don't get help here.
[03:24] <varunendra> tis_himself, you can use that parameter along with the previously tried parameter (fwlps). Use value 'Y' for "swenc" and 'N' for "fwlps"
[03:24] <quint> anybody know where i'd get an init script that works for deluged only? the one from deluge-torrent.org
[03:24] <Beldar> askm, All my computers have had intel graphics, and are old enough to work out if the box, so nvidia, optimus or any graphic fixes are out if my an real knowledge range.
[03:25] <Beldar> any*
[03:25] <quint> the one from deluge-torrent.org requires deluge-web **
[03:25] <varunendra> tis_himself, do you also have any thread at ubuntuforums.org? I'm interested in solving this, but may have to leave the channel anytime now.
[03:25] <askm> alright
[03:26] <Beldar> askm, I suspect what you have is fixable with the right help, it may be that this channel just does not have it at the moment, the forums are an excellent help place, if you can seperate the wheat from the chaffe like you would here.
[03:26] <askm> do u know what packages I would have to install to get Xserver and gnome running? I think I have uninstalled everything nvidia related
[03:27] <Beldar> askm, not really I assume the first card is intel, or radeon and should have worked in the beginning, where as it has never worked I believe.
[03:28] <Beldar> askm,This 12.04.3?
[03:28] <askm> yes
[03:28] <tis_himself> no I haven't got one
[03:28] <cem_> layn
[03:28] <askm> i dont know if its 04.3
[03:28] <askm> but its definitely 12.04
[03:28] <tis_himself> and I am soon to bed ...
[03:28] <cem_> hi all
[03:28] <askm> its the LTS
[03:28] <Beldar> askm, with graphics I'm just not your best help is all.
[03:29] <askm> alright, no worries
[03:29] <Beldar> askm, All 12.04 is lts 12.04.1 to 12.04.3 do you know the difference?
[03:29] <askm> how do I check that?
[03:29] <Beldar> askm, what kernel is being used?
[03:30] <Beldar> askm, uname -a will tell you
[03:30] <askm> 3.8.0-34-generic
[03:30] <Beldar> askm, that is 12.04.3 the latest that is good.
[03:30] <askm> ok good
[03:31] <askm> will it help if I tell you the exact order of packages installed/uninstalled?
[03:31] <cem_> is there any channel for ubuntu studio?
[03:32] <Beldar> askm, Not really with graphic issues. In general though with any graphic issue naming the exact hardware in inquiries for help is imperative.
[03:32] <cem_> i just thought erase xfce and install gnome do u think its good idea guys?
[03:32] <Beldar> cem_, #ubuntustudio
[03:32] <pcuser> Hey, does anyone here know regex? i need some help with a simple problem
[03:33] <askm> ok. im going to post on the forums then I think. thanks for your help!
[03:33] <pcuser> Im trying to match a phrase in a string, the string im searching is "[test word] lorem ipsum dolar", i need to see if the string contains "[test word]" and all variations of it, e.g "[ TeStWORD ]" "[testword]" "[ test word ]" etc...
[03:33] <cem_> and i cant use skyp in any x64 im linux noob what should i do?
[03:33] <Beldar> cem_, erasing a whole desktop meta packages is not easy I would have both.
[03:33] <cem_> thanx beldar
[03:33] <cem_> i ll keep ur advise
[03:33] <Beldar> cem_, skype is all 32 bit I believe.
[03:33] <xangua> !skype | cem_
[03:34] <pfifo> s/test word/i
[03:34] <Beldar> cem_, sudo apt-get install skype from the ubuntu repos it should run fine
[03:35] <DynamicFail> how would I remote desktop to ubuntu from windows
[03:36] <pfifo> DynamicFail: im pretty sure there are vnc tools for windoz
[03:36] <cem_> but my sound card is external, focusrite 8i6... i just can started to use it after latest jack updates before that using ubuntu was a dream, n ubuntu is like a dream many thanx who contributed in
[03:36] <cem_> its beautiful
[03:37] <pfifo> cem_: ubuntu just took everyting from debain, they deserve all the credit
[03:38] <tis_himself> varunendra,
[03:38] <cem_> im a linux noob :D but thanx them too its cool
[03:39] <tis_himself> any where you would like me to post to?
[03:39] <debfan> kubuntu ppl never respond
[03:40] <pcuser> pfifo: it doesnt seem to work, i need to match it inside the backets, so if the words arent wrapped with [ and ] it shouldnt match, the code im testing with is:
[03:40] <pcuser> $matches = array(); $string = '[test word] lorem ipsum dolar'; $regex = 's/test word/i'; preg_match($regex, $string,$matches); print_r($matches);
[03:41] <anternat> hello, i ran .py script from remote console with putty but i lost connection, does the script finish the job if i accidentally log out?
[03:41] <Beldar> debfan, about 1/6th the users there.
[03:42] <pfifo> pcuser: i was just pointing out you cou id 'i' to match insentivly. you should direct you question to ##php room, this is ubuntu support channel
[03:42] <varunendra> tis_himself, I am very irregular at IRC yet. Ubuntu Forums is where I am more consistent (with same user ID). And you'll get more helpers, much better than me there. (http://ubuntuforums.org/index.php)
[03:43] <Beldar> varunendra, people miss how big and full of geeks that forum is.
[03:44] <Beldar> not the instant release of irc though
[03:44] <varunendra> Beldar, Thanks to askubuntu I guess ;)
[03:44] <Beldar> yeah maybe so both have good fix data I try to send people there and generally get a "I don't like waiting" response.
[03:45] <Beldar> than watch them destroy there install here.
[03:46] <varunendra> lol ! That's a pity, but so true
[03:46] <Beldar> especially with uefi dualboots
[03:47] <Beldar> no backups no recovery discs climbing with no tie offs
[03:47] <zykotick9> anternat: probably not.  took into tmux/screen if you want that functionality.
[03:54] <Soundtoxin> How do I get to the equivalent to sources.list for PPAs? I'm gonna install something from a PPA but I have to enable universe and multiverse first.
[03:55] <Beldar> Soundtoxin,  universe and multiverse are in the sources.list ppa's are generally stored in sources.list.d if loaded with ppa load.
[03:57] <Beldar> Soundtoxin, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list for read and write to open those, then run a update
[03:58] <teenox> If anyone's up for a big challenge, I'm banging my head trying to get Chromium to work on a remote desktop environment. Who wants to give fixing this a shot?
[03:59] <Beldar> teenox, Is it bugs the problem?
[03:59] <Beldar> not that*
[04:00] <teenox> Beldar, not entirely sure. I put a new install of lubuntu on a new server. Lubuntu-desktop comes packaged with Chromium and won't launch.
[04:00] <teenox> Beldar, here's the specifics... http://askubuntu.com/questions/393517/lubuntu-why-wont-chromium-to-run
[04:01] <pfifo> teenox: i could have sworn there was a way to tell chromium where to go for the profile
[04:01] <tis_himself> OK varunendra posted on Forums n networking area : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2194842&p=12879279#post12879279
[04:02] <teenox> pfifo, I haven't figured out how. That may be the issue, but haven't been able to get anyone to replicate the problem yet.
[04:02] <pfifo> teenox: fisrt option listed on the manpage http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/chromium-browser.1.html
[04:03] <Beldar> teenox, Is there a screen for anything is my question?
[04:04] <varunendra> tis_himself, subscribed the thread. I'll reply as soon as I have time to look deeper into this. In the meanwhile, let's hope someone better picks up your thread :)
[04:04] <teenox> pfifo, trying that now, thanks
[04:04] <tis_himself> OK thanks for your help .. maybe I can return the favor sometime.
[04:04] <varunendra> tis_himself, no problem at all :)
[04:05] <tis_himself> g-nite
[04:05] <teenox> Beldar, no screen. But if I run from terminal I get Xlib extension “RANDR” missing on display ":1"
[04:05] <teenox> Beldar, however I've been told that this is not actually the problem. there's something else
[04:05] <PebkacJones> bonjour
[04:05] <PebkacJones> hola
[04:06] <pfifo> teenox: why dont you just run chromium over ssh? why all the fuss with vnc?
[04:06] <Beldar> teenox, All this is outside my knowledge area, however the missing randr stands out to me, I assume you need some sort of basic X to get a gui if thats what you are looking for with chromium.
[04:06] <Soundtoxin> Beldar: I don't think your answer helps, actually. sources.list.d is empty for me. I'm following this guide, look at "Basic setup; step 2" https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[04:07] <Soundtoxin> also my sources.list doesn't appear to list bumblebee or nvidia related stuff
[04:07] <Beldar> Soundtoxin, Your question made no sense I did my best with it.
[04:07] <teenox> pfifo, it's a weird setup, but need employees to vnc and use chromium. they wouldn't have a clue about ssh
[04:07] <Soundtoxin> Beldar: What part didn't make sense? I needed to do something you'd usually do in sources.list but in a place that lists PPAs, which aren't listed in my sources.list
[04:07] <Beldar> Soundtoxin, If you loaded another repo ppa or any other correctly they would be in either place.
[04:08] <pfifo> teenox: when you on your vnc, and you open a terminal, what is the output of "echo $DISPLAY"
[04:08] <Beldar> Soundtoxin, I you do a ppa install as shown on the ppa's web pages it would be in sources.list.d
[04:08] <Soundtoxin> Beldar: If you go to the page I linked, I have followed step 1 to add the PPA and I do not see Bumblebee or Nvidia in my sources.list
[04:09] <teenox> pfifo, :1
[04:09] <pfifo> teenox: are you sure you have xlib installed?
[04:09] <Beldar> Soundtoxin, are you sure you are looking in sources.list.d
[04:10] <Beldar> these are two different places
[04:10] <teenox> pfifo, no... not really sure. I just did apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[04:10] <pfifo> teenox: yeah that is ok
[04:10] <Soundtoxin> Beldar: sources.list.d was either empty or didn't exist before I tried to open it in nano. I just ran the PPA install command again and it says to reboot to show changes, I will try that and come back if it doesn't work
[04:10] <Beldar> teenox, /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[04:11] <Beldar> Soundtoxin, sources.list.d is a file
[04:11] <pfifo> teenox: can you use chromium over ssh? 'ssh user1@1.2.3.4 -XC "chromium-browser"'
[04:11] <Soundtoxin> Beldar: I did sudo nano /etc/ept/sources.list.d
[04:11] <Soundtoxin> *apt
[04:12] <teenox> pfifo, one moment. I tried that and seemed to freeze putty. Guess i need to start an ssh session first?
[04:13] <pfifo> teenox: i dont know if putty can handle X forwarding
[04:13] <teenox> Beldar, I got "No such file or directory"
[04:13] <teenox> Beldar, "-bash: /etc/apt/sources.list.d: Is a directory"
[04:14] <Beldar> teenox, this command will show whats in both. grep -vr "^#" /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/}
[04:15] <teenox> Beldar, ok that listed a whole bunch of stuff. What should I look for?
[04:15] <Beldar> teenox, do you have a desktop?
[04:15] <teenox> Beldar, my local pc? I'm on windows 7
[04:16] <pfifo> teenox: when you wun chromium from the command line what is the full output? only that one line?
[04:16] <Beldar> teenox, so this is a remote access?
[04:17] <teenox> Beldar, yes remote connection to Ubuntu server running lubuntu dekstop environment
[04:17] <teenox> pfifo, yes... except when I try to run the --user-data-dir I get something else. One moment
[04:18] <Beldar> teenox, I'm not familiar with that access, however I told exactly where the ppa's are, if you ran the command to load it from that link ten I was correct, you will have to figure out the access, or get it from another helper.
[04:19] <Beldar> then*
[04:19] <teenox> pfifo. when I run "chromium-browser" I get "ERROR:browser_main_loop.cc(208)] GTK theme error: Unable to locate theme engine in module path: "clearlooks",
[04:19] <Cajunfiend> sorry about that
[04:19] <teenox> Illiegal Instruction  (core dumped)
[04:20] <Beldar> teenox,They seem loaded, did you run a update and make sure the other repos you said need to opened are open?
[04:20] <Beldar> teenox, Sorry I got you mixed upu with another I was helping.
[04:20] <teenox> Beldar, no prob!
[04:21] <teenox> pfifo, that is the error I started getting after I changed the --user-profile-dir
[04:21] <Beldar> trying to help two people and eat an apple is to much for me hehe
[04:22] <teenox> pfifo, still getting same results from chromium. It flashes open for a second as just one big purple box (can't even tell its chromium) and then crashes
[04:25] <pfifo> teenox: change your gtk theme and try again
[04:27] <teenox> pfifo, would that be the theme options in openbox configuration?
[04:27] <pfifo> teenox: yeah
[04:28] <teenox> pfifo, ok I tried a bunch of different themes and nothing worked. Although all the theme variations did was change window colors
[04:29] <teenox> pfifo, you want to try to ssh and see?
[04:29] <teenox> pfifo, pretty desperate at this point ha
[04:30] <pfifo> teenox: honestly I dont know what the problem is. if I did I might be able to fix it, but im about to sleep so cant guide you through all the hundreds of troubleshooting routes
[04:30] <teenox> pfifo, completely understood
[04:30] <pfifo> teenox: try firefox
[04:30] <teenox> pfifo, that's the weird thing. firefox works just fine. Unfortunately I have to use chromium or chrome for this project
[04:31] <teenox> pfifo, go figure!
[04:31] <pfifo> teenox: maybe build chromium from source
[04:31] <teenox> pfifo, by the way when I changed the chromium user-data-dir it created all the necessary folders and files when I tried to launch chromium. Just still having trouble running
[04:32] <teenox> pfifo, i was thinking that should resolve according to this, but not the case: http://askubuntu.com/questions/220504/how-to-make-chromium-browser-start-on-vnc-display
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> teenox: did you try launch it from terminal, maybe shows usefull errors?
[04:33] <pfifo> teenox: I would (if this was my problem) run chromium in gdb and find out exactly where its crashing, the errors its giving you are useless.
[04:33] <KI7MT> teenox, I many have missed this earlier, but what OS are you running on the box your trying to connect to the UB server with?
[04:33] <teenox> pfifo, ok, not familiar with gdb but will check it out
[04:34] <pfifo> but gdb isnt something normal users are prepared to deal with :(
[04:34] <teenox> KI7MT, my local machine is win7 64 bit that i'm running tightvnc viewer on
[04:34] <teenox> KI7MT, I've tested on iOS too and same issue
[04:35] <teenox> lotuspsychje, yeah nothing useful really. I documented here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/393517/lubuntu-why-wont-chromium-to-run
[04:35] <KI7MT> teenox, I found this about Xming, may be worth a look at this point. : http://www.math.umn.edu/systems_guide/putty_xwin32.html
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> teenox: not really ubuntu related, but you should not use vnc on a win box, many security holes..
[04:36] <teenox> KI7MT thanks, checking it out
[04:36] <teenox> lotuspsychje good to know, thanks for the heads up
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> !vnc | teenox
[04:37] <JohnnyL> how do I update glib on ubuntu?
[04:37] <JohnnyL> Checking for 'glib-2.0' >= 2.2                       : not found
[04:37] <marz> I am using Ubuntu 12.04, my laptop can no longer connect to my wireless router(WiFi). I'm currently using a wired connection.
[04:37] <JohnnyL> marz: have you tried using the power supply while using it?
[04:37] <teenox> lotuspsychje thanks for that
[04:38] <marz> JohnnyL:  What do you mean?
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> teenox: ssh would be the safest way to remote another box, and secure with denyhosts
[04:38] <KI7MT> We posted about FreeNX early on in this mission
[04:38] <Beldar> marz, no longer indicates you did, in what context?
[04:38] <DynamicFail> what besides iptables could stop traffic in ubuntu
[04:38] <JohnnyL> marz: I hope I can make this more simple for you. But is your laptop plugged into the outlet on the wall while your using the network?
[04:38] <DynamicFail> are tehre any acl's or anything?
[04:39] <marz> JohnnyL: Yes
[04:39] <marz> Beldar:  It can still see my wireless network, but when connecting to it, it keeps on processing
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> DynamicFail: your router, ufw (iptables)
[04:39] <teenox> lotuspsychje cool, appreciate it
[04:39] <JohnnyL> marz: i have had similiar problems. try updating your configuration. if I plug it in it seems to work better.
[04:40] <marz> JohnnyL: I already update my system the "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade" command
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> teenox: how did you install chromium?
[04:40] <marz> I even restarted my computer
[04:40] <trism> JohnnyL: libglib2.0-dev if you're compiling
[04:40] <JohnnyL> marc: i am running 13.04. You should get that!
[04:40] <teenox> lotuspsychje it's packaged in lubuntu, which I installed with apt-get install lubuntu-dekstop
[04:41] <Beldar> marz, You said "no longer" this seems to mean it was working, in what context was it working, another release before an update...etc.
[04:41] <JohnnyL> trism : perfect thank you!
[04:41] <teenox> lotuspsychje also tried other environments, in whichcase I did apt-get install chromium-browser
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> teenox: maybe test the on-web version install of google chrome(just to test)?
[04:41] <marz> Beldar: It was working perfectly last night, when I woke up and used the laptop, it no longer can connect to my Wireless Network
[04:42] <teenox> lotuspsychje, oh yeah I've done that as well
[04:42] <marz> Beldar:  Other devices are connecting to my wireless network so I'm sure it is not the problem with the wireless router
[04:42] <Beldar> marz, post the wifi hardware, any updates or other changes that might be part of this change?
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> teenox: then something else is going on, this box is restricted in any way perhaps?
[04:43] <marz> Beldar:  I'm sorry but I'm a newbie to ubuntu. How do I post the WiFi hardware?
[04:44] <teenox> lotuspsychje nope, shouldn't be. I deploy VPS servers with Ubuntu 12.04 64
[04:44] <Beldar> marz, run lspci in the terminal and lok for it or pastebin all that info.
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> teenox: very odd..not sure what it could be
[04:45] <teenox> lotuspsychje, tell me about it! Been trying to figure this out for about 30 hours lol
[04:45] <teenox> lotuspsychje makes no sense at all
[04:45] <marz> Beldar:  It's  Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> teenox: you have an nvidia card?
[04:46] <Beldar> !brc | marz
[04:46] <Beldar> !broadcom | marz look here.
[04:46] <teenox> lotuspsychje on my local windows machine? yes
[04:47] <teenox> lotuspsychje what's strange is I can get chromium to work when I install lubuntu on VirtualBox on my local machine. Once I try to install on the server and VNC it doesn't work
[04:47] <Beldar> marz, Make sure any wifi switch is not accidentally off as well, it happens.
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> teenox: what server version are you trying to install it to?
[04:48] <teenox> lotuspsychje Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> teenox: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might know your issue?
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> teenox: but server version isnt GUI right, so where do you run chromium?
[04:51] <teenox> lotuspsychje on the lubuntu desktop environment that is installed on ubuntu server
[04:52] <dpecka> hello
[04:52] <ianorlin> hello
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> teenox: ok, never tested this and not sure if you need anything else to run stuff properly
[04:53] <teenox> lotuspsychje here's a complete breakdown of how I install it, step by step. Maybe you can see an error in my process http://askubuntu.com/questions/393517/lubuntu-why-wont-chromium-to-run
[04:54] <dpecka> i need to know one think .. i'm not ubuntu user and i don't have ubuntu .. comes ubuntu by default with legacy grub infrastructure ? i mean is there by default /boot/grub directory and grub-install script from grub-0.97.xx package ?
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> teenox: yes i have readed it, that first error shows xrandr, you got 2 monitors or something?
[04:54] <dpecka> **thing
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> !grub | dpecka
[04:55] <dpecka> lotuspsychje: oh god, please reread .. i don't for anything like that
[04:55] <dpecka> **i don't ask
[04:55] <teenox> lotuspsychje, no but it seems like there may be an issue when you VNC it creates another "monitor" per say and chromium doesn't know which one to display on. Described here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/220504/how-to-make-chromium-browser-start-on-vnc-display
[04:56] <teenox> lotuspsychje I tried creating another user directory as suggested there with no luck
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> teenox: not sure mate sorry, think your best bet will be the server guys
[04:56] <Beldar> dpecka, grub legacy is in the repos, canj you give a context of use here?
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> teenox: they have more experience with this
[04:57] <dpecka> Beldar: writing some script which makes some block device bootable using legacy grub
[04:57] <teenox> lotuspsychje thanks for all the help. Is there an irc channel for those guys?
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> teenox: #ubuntu-server
[04:57] <dpecka> Beldar: for example both fedora and suse comes with both grub installed by default but just with grub2 active and default bootloader
[04:57] <teenox> lotuspsychje thanks!
[04:58] <Beldar> dpecka, how is this ubuntu related?
[04:58] <dpecka> Beldar: so for compatibility reasons you have still installed grub 0.97 in there
[04:58] <dpecka> Beldar: my script should work also on ubuntu
[04:59] <Beldar> dpecka, should work in ubuntu is not really a legit relevance is all this is ubuntu support for ubuntu users is all I would think grub legacy is available in most linux repos ar as a download somewhere, not sure how I can help is all.
[05:01] <dpecka> hmm
[05:02] <Beldar> dpecka, basically just trying to get to a gist of how we can help is all.
[05:03] <dpecka> okay, i can include grub1 legacy files into my package\
[05:04] <Beldar> dpecka, There is a grub channel but but even they only support grub 2 is all.
[05:09] <jakob1> Is there a way to simulate the space bar being hit? I want to bind a button on my IR remote to the space bar so that I can pause youtube with it
[05:10] <adria> hola
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> !es | adria
[05:13] <triplc> Hi all
[05:15] <triplc> The nvidia 304-update driver is mismatched (http://paste.ubuntu.com/6609565/). I am using 12.04. nvidia-304-updates version is 304.108 while nvidia-settings-304-updates version is 304.88. That mismatch cause Xorg unable to start. I have to switch back to the old nvidia-304.
[05:16] <triplc> I tried to report a bug.. but I cannot undertand how to file a bug to ubuntu lauchpad (i read the guide but it sounds difficult to me)
[05:16] <help_meh> hello
[05:17] <Guest21988> I am not a guest i'm a free man!
[05:17] <help_meh> lul
[05:24] <FireStorms> Hey, I want to use the shell more often, but one of the things stopping me is that I have not got a photographic memory to memorise commands. Other than saving .rc files, is there anyway to bookmark commands? I am aware of bash history using the arrow keys, but it's not a great way to bookmark cmds.
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> FireStorms: you can use tab completing and man pages
[05:27] <Cheekio> You can also use ctrl-R
[05:27] <Cheekio> that's a fuzzy search for commands
[05:27] <Cheekio> pretty much my best friend these days
[05:28] <Cheekio> That and tab-complete
[05:28] <Cheekio> a-d-d-tab-tab-tab
[05:29] <Cheekio> haha, beaten
[05:30] <zykotick9> FireStorms: look into using alias perhaps.  learning/memorizing the commands is best, takes some time/practise
[05:33] <FireStorms> I know of tab it's good i use it a lot, but it's still slow. I recently spent 5 minutes putting together this command "phpcpd /var/www/www.devraid.loc/source_application/ --exclude /var/www/www.devraid.loc/source_system /var/www/www.devraid.loc/public /var/www/www.devraid.loc/source_application/libraries/Zend /var/www/www.devraid.loc/source_application/logs/" my high tech solution to replicating the command is saving it in a text file
[05:33] <FireStorms> and copy and pasting it when needed. Surely there's a shell solution to this? Maybe some script
[05:33] <FloodBot1> FireStorms: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:34] <JohnnyL> trying to compile, getting alsa pkg not found. even though it's there.
[05:37] <JohnnyL> also how do you change the sensitivity of the touchpad?
[05:51] <JohnnyL> have i been banned?
[05:52] <cfhowlett> JohnnyL, apparently not.
[05:53] <JohnnyL> lol
[05:54] <hassen> wouldn't I run .run files with '\.'  ?
[05:55] <JohnnyL> hard to believe my current's hard drive is the same as 80,000 Commodore 1541s. :)
[05:56] <JohnnyL> opps i mean my current RAM!
[06:15] <GZA-Genius> can someone point me in the right direction. I am looking to take a ubuntu server 13.10 amd64 iso and replace the kernel that comes with it, with my own kernel. If someone can just point me in the right direction it would be much appreciated.
[06:16] <jakesahir> guys how can i upgrade ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10?
[06:17] <KI7MT> GZA-Genius, You may find this useful: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[06:18]  * hassen steps back after reading the mostly negative people reviews' on ATI's fglrx driver,and decides to leave the default ubuntu's source driver for his ATI HD 3470 GPU.
[06:18] <aproxy> Anyone know why apt might not want to install dependencies? I'll pastebin the error if anyone's interested
[06:18] <KI7MT> jakesahir, with the Ubuntu Software Center or in a terminal: sudo apt-get do-release-upgrade
[06:19] <GZA-Genius> jakesahir: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:19] <GZA-Genius> jakesahir: then: sudo update-manager -d
[06:19] <KI7MT> GZA-Genius, dist-upgrade stays within the current release.
[06:20] <jakesahir> GZA-Genius: When i try to update with software updater it says ur system is up-to date
[06:20] <aproxy> key word: terminal
[06:20] <GZA-Genius> ;)
[06:20] <GZA-Genius> did u execute the 2 command lines i just gave u?
[06:21] <Beldar> jakesahir, make sure any proprietary drivers are removed and any ppa's shut off and possibly a ppa-purge is run in some cases. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SaucyUpgrades
[06:22] <jakesahir> Beldar: Problem solved!! Thank you guys...
[06:22]  * aproxy coughs and subtly points at what he said earlier
[06:23] <Beldar> aproxy, you would post the errors if you want help.
[06:23] <aproxy> Of course.
[06:24] <aproxy> https://gist.github.com/aproxy/e32e8e0564faaedfbc79
[06:24] <GZA-Genius> KI7MT: nope tnx though. I have the kernel I want to use and can install it no problem. But i would like to swap the stock kernel in the 13.10 server64 iso so I can use the liveCD when needed and if any reinstalls are needed makes my life much easier.
[06:25] <aproxy> I totally expected that to happen
[06:25] <GZA-Genius> What I had to do was install 13.04 server, setup, install new kernel remove others, then upgrade to 13.10. I hate doing dist upgrades
[06:26] <aproxy> Beldar, I'm running Elementary OS .2 which is built on 12.04
[06:26] <GZA-Genius> even if everything goes fine I much rather do clean installs
[06:26] <aproxy> I figure you might want to know that
[06:26] <Beldar> aproxy, not supported here is all.
[06:26] <GZA-Genius> lol
[06:26] <KI7MT> GZA-Genius, I'm not following what your saying, you want a custom kernel but keep the ability to use the LiveCD as well ?
[06:26] <aproxy> Translation: go to #elementary?
[06:26] <aproxy> I assume?
[06:27] <JohnnyL> Why isn't my compile process recognizing that my 'alsa' is installed?
[06:28] <Beldar> aproxy, yeah that appears to be their channel.
[06:28] <aproxy> I've asked there before, noone knew. Just asked again, in case someone joined in the past week that knows what to do
[06:29] <aproxy> As you might imagine, I'd *love* to be able to install something required by just about every program I try to install :P
[06:31] <Beldar> aproxy, looks pretty messed up a bit broken just out of our channels rules to help is all. You might consider a ubuntu install for wider and more available support.
[06:31] <GZA-Genius> KI7MT: I already have a custom kernel that I have to use due to hardware (RAID Controller, and other little things). So I want to take the kernel I built and inject it into 13.10 server amd64 LiveCD iso. So I can use the Live CD and have it boot my kernel when I do.
[06:31] <aproxy> I don't suppose there's a way to update apt?
[06:32] <aproxy> I'm considering just going to pure ubuntu however it'd be the 5th time I've changed OSes on this laptop and I'm pretty sick of it
[06:33] <Beldar> aproxy, HOw much do you know about linux already?
[06:34] <aproxy> Enough to run a remote VPS and do day to day things. I've not messed with compiling, kernels, or all that stuff
[06:34] <KI7MT> GZA-Genius, I'd highly recommend building the kernel on you the system, enabling the Harware / Modules / Drivers with menuconfig need and installing normally.  Maybe other know, but I don't know of a way to have the LiVCD install a kernel from another source.
[06:35] <Beldar> aproxy, that does not really mean much, from the link I see a large amount of broken packages and held packages, while you are trying to install, is why I ask.
[06:35] <aproxy> There's a few things I've tried to install, but got this error a few times
[06:36] <aproxy> I have added a couple PPAs for weechat and some other things. Big deal, or no?
[06:37] <GZA-Genius> KI7MT: Yea thats what I have been doing, but then I run into an issue when I need to boot from LiveCD in recovery or uh oh situations.
[06:37] <aproxy> I can paste my sources.list if you would like
[06:37] <Beldar> aproxy, ppa's are generally not needed unless that is the only option, one wants to keep the apt cleaned up is all for ease of use
[06:37] <GZA-Genius> KI7MT: Tnx for the help
[06:37] <aproxy> The install instructions for the applications didn't list another way of going about it besides compiling, of course, I couldn't install libc so that's out of the question :/
[06:38] <GZA-Genius> KI7MT: Enjoy the holidays, tnx again!
[06:40] <Tex_Nick> 13.10 : only refreshes the date if i reboot ... is that a bug or a congig problem
[06:46] <KI7MT> GZA-Genius, If you still around, one way to do it I suppose, is roll your own LiveCD with the customized kernel, that could work i suppose: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[06:51] <Guest74593> Someone please help me. I downloaded a Windoes7 Iso, Used WinUSB to creat the USB and Now what do i do?
[06:51] <cfhowlett> Guest74593, windows support is available elsewhere.
[06:51] <aproxy> For... ubuntu?
[06:51] <Guest74593> What is the chat cfhowlett ?
[06:52] <aproxy> I don't know about you, but #ubuntu isn't #windows in my opinion
[06:52] <aproxy> Er, sorry, ##windows
[06:53] <cfhowlett> Guest74593, suggest you look at windows.com for help installing windows
[06:53] <aproxy> ooooh cfhowlett I think we're misunderstanding
[06:53] <cfhowlett> www.microsoft.com
[06:53] <m0oz0o> salut
[06:53] <aproxy> he's trying to install it over ubuntu using a flash drive
[06:53] <cfhowlett> aproxy, ?  possible.  I've not had coffee
[06:53] <aproxy> is that still not supported?
[06:53] <aproxy> bios not working
[06:54] <duhamel> hello all. does anybody know why changing the dpi in ubuntu 13.10 doesn't affect nautilus or metacity?
[06:54] <m0oz0o> hey someone know  how to gat work wifi on pinguy
[06:54] <cfhowlett> aproxy, please help if you can ...
[06:54] <m0oz0o> that work on ubuntu and not on pinguy
[06:54] <cfhowlett> m0oz0o, best to ask in #pinguy ... not supported here
[06:54] <aproxy> mmm, sure
[06:55] <duhamel> how would i go about enlarging for a large screen tv display?
[06:55] <aproxy> though I think they're helping them over in ##windows
[06:55] <aproxy> brb investigating
[06:55] <m0oz0o> someone use an dell inspiron 15
[06:55] <aproxy> Actually, I'm talking to you on a 15R
[06:56] <aproxy> Of course, we don't support your OS here
[06:56] <m0oz0o> witch driver for wifi
[06:56] <cfhowlett> aproxy, m0oz0o #pinguy for help with pinguy OS
[06:56] <m0oz0o> i got inspiron 15 3537
[06:57] <aproxy> cfhowlett, <aproxy> Of course, we don't support your OS here
[06:57] <ROPA> m0oz0o I have 2 Dell 15R's.
[06:58] <m0oz0o> and so
[06:59] <m0oz0o> i got a lot of you dont have like a life lol looser
[06:59] <aproxy> uh, cfhowlett, #pinguy doesn't exist
[06:59] <aproxy> nor ##pinguy
[06:59] <aproxy> unless I've typed it wrong both times and sound like a total moron
[07:00] <cfhowlett> aproxy, well, heck.  If THEY wont' support their OS , we definitely shouldn't mess with it!
[07:00] <aproxy> Haha
[07:00] <aproxy> So true ;_;
[07:00] <KI7MT> It's #PinguyOS
[07:00] <aproxy> ah!
[07:00] <aproxy> they should rename taht.
[07:01] <KI7MT> when you get there, be sure to tell them that ...
[07:01] <aproxy> most definitely
[07:04] <Gr1m> geany 1.23 seems to be creating new copies of a file when it saves
[07:09] <glitsj16> Gr1m: you should be able to turn off that behavior in the preferences
[07:09] <Gr1m> glitsj16: But when I close the files the extra files seem to disappear is this normal ?
[07:10] <aproxy> yes
[07:10] <aproxy> they are tmp
[07:10] <aproxy> Maybe even backups.
[07:11] <glitsj16> Gr1m: most file editors have that yes, i think it is in the preferences under 'files', open new files from commandline or something similar
[07:13] <KI7MT> Gr1m, a quick Google says, you need the Save Actions Plug-In installed and Auto Save enabled, so "disabling auto save" should sort that out.
[07:14] <Gr1m> KI7MT: It happens even when I save manually
[07:16] <KI7MT> Gr1m, I not used Geany in a very long time, but a .tmp or whatever, if you have auto save enabled seems to be a reasonable action.
[07:17] <Gr1m> KI7MT: They are not .tmp . If the file is foo.py is creates n number of foo.py for n number of saves and deletes all of em after I close geany
[07:17] <KI7MT> If you dont want the temp backup up files to happen, disable the auto save / backup .. Gedit does the same thing.
[07:17] <john2x_> hello.. is my video card busted if I can't see it in `lspci -v`?
[07:18] <aproxy> I'm ruling out that that is a good sign
[07:18] <aproxy> To say the least
[07:19] <john2x_> aproxy: :( so it should have been listed even if it's not used?
[07:19] <aproxy> mmm, don't ask me
[07:21] <glitsj16> john2x_: i'm with aproxy, not a good sign, what does lshw -class display say about it?
[07:23] <john2x_> glitsj16: yeah it's only showing the intel integrated graphics, which is what I'm using now..
[07:23] <john2x_> I don't understand, it was working fine yesterday..
[07:24] <john2x_> it's like it's not connected at all..
[07:24] <glitsj16> john2x_: so you have 2 cards?
[07:25] <blackrock> Can anyone help with this?: "tzdata-java : Depends: tzdata (= 2012e-0ubuntu0.12.04.1) but 2013g-0ubuntu0.12.04 is to be installed"
[07:25] <john2x_> glitsj16 1 AMD/ATI, and one that's integrated.. I'm using the integrated one now, as I can't use the ATI one
[07:26] <glitsj16> john2x_: lspci -k | egrep 'VGA|use' | grep VGA -A 1 gives you the card info and driver currently in use .. don't have experience with these newer hybrid machines though sorry
[07:27] <john2x_> glitsj16: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[07:28] <glitsj16> john2x_: that confirms what you see yes, no trace of the ATI .. strange
[07:28] <john2x_> gonna open it up and take a look. maybe it's just not connected properly.. thanks glitsj16.
[07:29] <glitsj16> john2x_: did you turn it off in bios perhaps?
[07:29] <KI7MT> blackrock, I dont know why apt not finding the deps, but this appears to be a solution: http://superuser.com/questions/478284/dependencies-problems-installing-openjdk-on-ubuntu
[07:30] <john2x_> glitsj16 I can't even see the fan stats for the card.. although I don't remember seeing it before.. but I do see stats for the CPU and hard drive
[07:30] <john2x_> in the BIOS
[07:31] <glitsj16> john2x_: let's hope it's a simple 'yank it in again' issue ..
[07:32] <john2x_> yeah.. I don't want to blame my younger brother for this. I've only just come back home after several months and left him "in charge" of the PC.. it's a pretty good gaming machine too..
[07:32] <KI7MT> blackrock, this bug seems relevant:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tzdata/+bug/1212319
[07:33] <Treezus> how does one ident nick?
[07:33] <glitsj16> john2x_: i hear you, gaming with the onboard probably isn't the same experience
[07:34] <aeon-ltd> !identify | Treezus
[07:35] <Treezus> ok thank you... and the point of doing so is?  i ahvent used IRC in over 10 years forgot almost all
[07:35] <Treezus> on this doege craze
[07:35] <Treezus> but i will be frequenting this room
[07:35] <Treezus> as HUGE ubuntu proponent
[07:36] <KI7MT> Treezus, gives some level of protection to the user.
[07:37] <Treezus> like hiding my dirt from noobs
[07:37] <glitsj16> Treezus: i think it protects your nick, otherwise you can get one of these Guestxxxxxxx nicks assigned, and some channels demand it on freenode
[07:37] <Treezus> ubuntu is like some dreamscape
[07:37] <KI7MT> Treezus, or keeping other from using your account and getting you banned :-)
[07:38] <Treezus> ooooooo excelllent
[07:38] <Treezus> u da man
[07:39] <Treezus> i believe u need for dcc too...right....
[07:39] <KI7MT> You could ask in channel-ops those guys knows most all there is to know about these rooms.
[07:40] <Treezus> yup what channel?
[07:40] <blackrock> KI7MT, I think I have a newer version of tzdata, which conflicts with the requiremenents
[07:40] <Treezus> or msg the ops u mean
[07:40] <Phy_> Greetings. I'm getting an error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6610016/
[07:40] <Phy_> Can anyome give me a help?
[07:40] <Phy_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dkms/+bug/1171344
[07:41] <Treezus> so this is ubuntu go to ... is this the largest ubuntuu network>
[07:41] <cfhowlett> !ask|Phy_,
[07:41] <Treezus> chat
[07:41] <KI7MT> blackrock, what was your trying to install that threw the error originally?
[07:41] <cfhowlett> Phy_, oops!  nvrmind me
[07:42] <Phy_> cfhowlett: ..
[07:42] <blackrock> Phy_, install python-apport ?
[07:42] <Phy_> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/140983674/dkms_2.2.0.3-1.1ubuntu3_2.2.0.3-1.1ubuntu4.diff.gz
[07:42] <Phy_> Dont help me
[07:42] <blackrock> KI7MT, it was openjdk-6-jre (openjdk-7-jre throws the same error)
[07:42] <Phy_> blackrock: Hm, Is in the repo?
[07:43] <blackrock> Phy_, on line 22, "ImportError: No module named apport". So install what's missing?
[07:43] <KI7MT> blackrock, from the repos or downloaded file ?
[07:43] <blackrock> KI7MT, repos
[07:43] <KI7MT> blackrock, Ok, let me go dig on that a bit.
[07:44] <blackrock> KI7MT, um, btw, 12.04 latest
[07:45] <Phy_> blackrock: Ok. I have to reboot now. I will come later to tell if worked.
[07:45] <Phy_> Thank you.
[07:45] <blackrock> KI7MT, I installed the same package on a machine with the same system just a few days ago
[07:46] <KI7MT> blackrock, Just check real quick to you have updates and security enabled in Synaptic -> Settings -> Repos
[07:48] <blackrock> KI7MT, yes, I have precise-security enabled, but not the others
[07:48] <KI7MT> blackrock, need the updates
[07:49] <KI7MT> blackrock, then lets try: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/* && sudo apt-get update  then try install 6 again.
[07:50] <Phy__> blackrock: Another problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6610054/
[07:51] <Phy__> I think i cannot install amd driver over 3.10 series kernel !!
[07:53] <blackrock> KI7MT, enabled precise-updates, did apt-get update, openjdk-7-jre is now installing fine. Thank you!
[07:55] <KI7MT> blackrock, cool well done :-)
[07:57] <blackrock> Phy__, someone like KI7MT might be able to offer solutions for that
[07:58] <Phy__> Kernel 3.10 doesn't supports amd driver. Its all about what exactely?
[07:58] <Phy__> blackrock: Ok.
[07:58] <aproxy> anyone got a name of a dvd writing program?
[07:58] <Phy__> ERROR (dkms apport): kernel package linux-headers-3.10.25-031025-generic is not supported
[07:59] <Phy__> aproxy: brasero
[07:59] <aproxy> mkay thanks
[07:59] <aproxy> in the software centre?
[07:59] <KI7MT> Phy__, Im not a glx guru but what you trying to do? There's lots of knowledgeable folks in the room that may  be able to help.
[07:59] <Phy__> yes
[07:59] <aproxy> Thanks
[08:00] <KI7MT> !details | Phy__,
[08:00] <Phy__> I want to intall new kernel (3.12) and AMD driver )
[08:00] <aproxy> ah balls can't install libc
[08:00] <Phy__> KI7MT: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6610054/
[08:01] <Phy__> aproxy: Run: apt-get install -f
[08:01] <aproxy> yeah, that doesn't work
[08:01] <aproxy> I've tried many times
[08:01] <aproxy> on many programs
[08:01] <aproxy> guess why it's an ubuntu iso? :P
[08:02] <Phy__> apt-get install libc* or through  synaptic.
[08:02] <aproxy> Doesn't work.
[08:02] <aproxy> Believe me >_<
[08:02] <KI7MT> Phy__, I'lll let the GLX gurus help on that portion, but fist thing I see is your root. You should not be using root on a sudo system.
[08:04] <KI7MT> Phy__, and secondly, if you at a point where your having to install / reinstall libc, youv'e got some serious issues going on.
[08:05] <Phy__> KI7MT: Ok. I will wait a moment. Maybe no one can help me today.
[08:05] <Phy__> Its not me. aproxy is trying to install it. I'm just supportin'
[08:06] <KI7MT> Phy__, ok .. well then he's got serious issues if he needs that then ;-)
[08:07] <KI7MT> aproxy, what version of Ubuntu you on?
[08:07] <aproxy> eOS luna, aka 12.04
[08:07] <aproxy> asked for support many a time on both channels :P
[08:07] <aproxy> noone knows what's up
[08:08] <aproxy> want the terminal error?
[08:08] <KI7MT> aproxy, No, this is the wrong channel for eOs Luna
[08:08] <aproxy> (I don't think you're supposed to support other OSes :/ I'll show you the log if you care )
[08:08] <aproxy> Yeah
[08:08] <aproxy> I've noticed
[08:09] <KI7MT> aproxy, If you know that, please don't confuse the channel with Non-Ubuntu support requests.
[08:09] <aproxy> I realize that
[08:10] <Phy__> Thousands peoples here. Help nothing, right ubottu?
[08:10] <Phy__> I know you're a bot anyway..
[08:10] <aproxy> I only asked for support *here* once that I can recall
[08:11] <Phy__> I have to reboot again.
[08:15] <MrHeavy> Anyone good with cgroups? I'm having a hard time getting 12.04 to play nice with process specifications in cgrules.conf
[08:15] <YOURBESTFRIEND> how do I know if my drives use a MBR or GPT?
[08:16] <MrHeavy> YOURBESTFRIEND: gparted for GUI, gdisk -l [device] for CLI
[08:18] <MrHeavy> Check the second-to-last post here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1742682
[08:18] <KI7MT> MrHeavy, I had this bookmarked on cgroup issues .. may be worth a browse: http://askubuntu.com/questions/94619/how-to-set-cpu-limit-for-given-process-permanently-cpulimit-and-nice-dont-work
[08:18] <YOURBESTFRIEND> hmmm, MBR it seems
[08:19] <shafox> While compiling from source should I follow this guidelines ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[08:20] <zerocircle> is notepad++ is open source
[08:20] <KI7MT> shafox, I do, and I use checkinstall allot .. makes managing installs allot easier.
[08:21] <shafox> KI7MT, hmm, i am also thinking of that. BTW Where should I create the dir as prescribed in the manual /usr/local/src/ ?
[08:21] <KI7MT> zerocircle, Yes, I believe it's open source, but it's for Windows.
[08:21] <KI7MT> shafox, I use my $HOME/src
[08:22] <shafox> KI7MT, but that wont be readable for root's bashrc ... would it ?
[08:22] <zerocircle> ok KI7MT thanks... actualy I haven't seen open source keyword in notepad++ site
[08:22] <KI7MT> zerocircle, http://notepad-plus-plus.org/
[08:23] <john2x> glitsj16: so it seems the video card is attached.. the fan is spinning when I turn it on.. my monitor just won't work when I plug it in its slot..
[08:23] <KI7MT> shafox, Dont dont understand your question
[08:25] <shafox> KI7MT, lets say I installed the program called "x", it is in the $home/src dir and its also in the $home/.bashrc file path. but If i want to use that "x" with root privilege like "sudo x", then it wont read the $home/.bashrc file it will read the root's .bashrc file. so what are other file modification has to be changed to use that program with sudo ?
[08:27] <KI7MT> shafox, $HOME/src is where you source files are, then you do ./configures .. .. .. make .. sudo checkinstall which created the .deb and installs to the system tree or wehreever ./configure specified it to go.
[08:27] <shafox> KI7MT, i dont need to specify any other optional value as in --prefix or something with sudo checkinstall ?
[08:29] <KI7MT> shafox, That's entirely up to the application your compiling, some apps allow custom options others dont. Try ./configure --help .. that usually lists the config options.
[08:31] <atreus_> xubuntu
[08:31] <atreus_> ohp sorry, I have a questions about xfce can anyone help me out?
[08:31] <shafox> KI7MT, lets say for python 3.3.3 they have the option for --prefix , but should I use it then where should i point to ?
[08:31] <KI7MT> shafox, Once you have done ./configure and make, sudo checkinstall merely installs the the binaries, libs, etc according to the ./config options .. and it keeps track of them so you can remove them with checkinstall
[08:32] <dv-> atreus_: don't ask to ask, just ask
[08:32] <atreus_> the separators in the xfce4 right click menus are quite large and obnoxious, how can one make them invisible?
[08:33] <KI7MT> shafox, You need to read the python-3.3.3 README and INSTALL instructions, that will tell you how it's to be installed.
[08:33] <Akiva-Mobile> I am trying to speed up team viewer on a remote computer. is there a way I can disable compositing on an ubuntu 13.10 machine?
[08:33] <KI7MT> shafox, checkinstall is only a tool to manage the final step.
[08:33] <atreus_> on my fedora machine, the separators disappear when apply the same theme, can anyone help me out?
[08:34] <aproxy> fedora?
[08:34] <aproxy> uhhhh nope
[08:34] <atreus_> not help with fedora, I'm just providing evidence that the theme is not at fault
[08:34] <aproxy> aaaaah
[08:34] <KI7MT> shafox, if pthon3 is what your interested in, there's many documents that show how to install it in Ubuntu, alongside python2.7x without collisions.
[08:35] <ionwind> hi there
[08:35] <shafox> KI7MT, yeah i have installed it. just trying to know where should I point the --prefix
[08:36] <KI7MT> shafox, most of the time, a shebang change is all that's needed #/usr/env pythpn3 v.v /python to use py3
[08:36] <ionwind> i would like to know how to install doble panel in the nautilus
[08:36] <ionwind> before was just press f3
[08:36] <Romance> shafox: why dont just apt-get install python3
[08:36] <ionwind> ubuntu 13.10
[08:37] <KI7MT> Romance, +1
[08:37] <shafox> Romance, that will replace system version no ?
[08:37] <ionwind> pyton3??
[08:37] <Romance> shafox: no, like KI7MT says, a shebang will choose either you want default python (2.7) or python3
[08:37] <shafox> and also i just said python3 as merely for an example .
[08:38] <shafox> i want to know while configuring from source what --prefix should i use .
[08:39] <Romance> shafox: anywhere you want but you have to /path/to/that/prefix/python3 to call it
[08:39] <KI7MT> shafox, If that's all your after, Ubuntu packages python3 in such a way that they can co-exist, just sudo apt-get isntall python3 and change the shebang in your scripts than need python3
[08:39] <shafox> Romance, ok. what about sudoing it ? again i have to use the full path while sudo program name ?
[08:40] <shafox> KI7MT, thats not the one i am after, i am just stated as an example cause it provides a --prefix option while configuring .
[08:40] <Romance> shafox: sure because since you want to pick where to install it , you have to, unless you put it on default location /usr/bin, then you can call it just by name
[08:40] <KI7MT> for python2 scripts. #/usr/bin/env python  ... python3 scripts #/usr/bin/env python3
[08:41] <KI7MT> shafox, :-) sri .. python is probably the easiest one .. what are you after then ?
[08:42] <shafox> KI7MT, i was after vim new, couchdb new. elasticsearch, redis-server like this ...
[08:42] <shafox> vim installation was fine but the path is not correct.
[08:42] <shafox> and so is elasticsearch
[08:43] <KI7MT> shafox, Oh we went over this the other night, use the standard ./configure no special prefix, and use [ sudu -E su ] to run VIM, that will preserve the users normal $PATH vars
[08:43] <Romance> you have to read the README if you want to compile it from source, but easiest way is by apt-get
[08:44] <shafox> KI7MT, i know we went over it, i am looking for alternatives .
[08:44] <shafox> hence asked.
[08:45] <KI7MT> shafox, and using checkinstall will make it a 2 second install / uninstall if you need to.
[08:45] <shafox> KI7MT, going with that.
[08:46] <KI7MT> shafox, that also allows you to play with any numebr of ./configure --prefix=/combinations, and remove them if they are not to your liking.
[08:46] <shafox> okies.
[08:52] <KI7MT> Romance, Im not a VIM user, but is VIM similar to python in so far as, different version can co-exist as well ?
[08:54] <KI7MT> Romance, and if my memory serves me well, which it often does not, shafox needed a custom compile because of a module or plugin or something that wsan't available in the repos.
[08:57] <Home555> русский
[08:57] <Home555> как попасть на русский канал
[08:57] <KI7MT> !ru | Home555
[08:58] <Home555> канал закрыт
[09:00] <xubuntu_> русский.. еще раз пожалйста.
[09:00] <shafox> KI7MT, plugin name is YouCompleteMe .
[09:00] <aeon-ltd> !ru
[09:01] <KI7MT> shafox, ok .. I just recalled you needed a custom compile for something.
[09:01] <shafox> yeah
[09:01] <xubuntu_> не могу (
[09:01] <xubuntu_> канала нету
[09:01] <FloodBot1> xubuntu_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:01] <xubuntu_> что такое ((( убунту подводит???
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> !ru | xubuntu_
[09:02] <KI7MT> shafox, If you've not see this page, may be worth a read: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall
[09:03] <cristian_c> Hi
[09:03] <cristian_c> I've tried bustle-dbus-monitor and bustle
[09:03] <cristian_c> In the various tests I've done, I have not seen activity about mouse and keyboard connected
[09:03] <cristian_c> devices work but are not announced in bustle
[09:04] <cristian_c> at the same time, the only information shown by bustle are those related to applications
[09:04] <cristian_c> may be bustle is not the right program to detect the activity of the devices?
[09:04] <cristian_c> and if so, what is the right program to monitor this activity?
[09:04] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[09:06] <zeorin> Hi, I'm busy trying to turn my Asus EeePad Transformer Prime Android tabler into a proper netbook. I've installed ubuntu on it using instructions I found here: http://lifeinarootshell.blogspot.it/2013/03/howto.html However, I am not able to get it to play nice with Nvidia's tegra 3 drivers for linux. the ubuntu-arm channel is no help (no one answers, at all), so I was wondering if someone here could help me debug the situation? I wo
[09:06] <zeorin> uld be very grateful!
[09:06] <xubuntu_> убунту усрались (((
[09:06] <xubuntu_> канал кто-то зафигачил (
[09:06] <xubuntu_> я про ру.
[09:07] <xubuntu_> возобновите пожалуйста работу убунту-ру
[09:07] <xubuntu_> очень нужно!
[09:08] <xubuntu_> каналы это наше всё!
[09:08] <xubuntu_> очень надо :)
[09:16] <washedout> morning
[09:16] <KI7MT> ..
[09:16] <embed-ns_> not quite, but almost :)
[09:16] <washedout> heh
[09:16] <embed-ns_> it still dark here
[09:16] <washedout> i'm a begginer and i need help with mounting an image
[09:17] <washedout> ubuntu 13.04 64 bit
[09:17] <Ben64> need more info. what image, mount where, what format is it in... etc.
[09:17] <embed-ns_> mount who
[09:17] <washedout> the image is ubuntu 12.04
[09:18] <washedout> mount where? i have no idea lol
[09:18] <phil-ns> ? attempting an install without a cd/dvd drive?
[09:19] <washedout> yes
[09:19] <phil-ns> put it on a usb stick and make sure your bios allows boot from usb
[09:19] <bekks> washedout: then just dd it onto an USB device.  to boot from it.
[09:20] <imghost> washedout, whats your goal after mounting?
[09:20] <Calinou> have fun using dd on windows, bekks
[09:20] <KI7MT> LOL
[09:20] <phil-ns> washedout: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[09:20] <Calinou> http://unetbootin.sf.net
[09:20] <bekks> Calinou: I do have fun using it. Ever heard of cygwin?
[09:20] <Calinou> ^ works fine for ubuntu-based distros
[09:20] <Calinou> not everyone wants to bother installing cygwin
[09:20] <washedout> hmmmm
[09:21] <washedout> from my  search from google, prior coming here, i know i can mount the image from the terminal
[09:21] <washedout> i just didn't work with the command i used
[09:22] <phil-ns> washedout: that link I gave refers to a thing called unetbootin, for you windows facists that is here http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[09:22] <KI7MT> Alternative: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[09:22] <washedout> why are you calling me fascist?
[09:22] <phil-ns> sorry, I meant windows pussy
[09:23] <bekks> phil-ns: Please behave.
[09:23] <washedout> I'm sorry, I mean, I come here looking for help and to understand linux better...
[09:23] <phil-ns> boring
[09:23] <washedout> we all come from windows i believe
[09:24] <washedout> nvm him
[09:24] <bekks> washedout: thats not true - and it is unrelated in here :)
[09:24] <loostro> hi.. I uninstalled apache2 (with --purge), but it didn't remove my files in /etc/apache2, so I removed them manually
[09:24] <loostro> then i did apt-get install apache2 to get a fresh install... but nothing is in /etc/apache2
[09:25] <loostro> i did whereis apache2 and i have one in /usr/lib and one in /usr/share.. but when i look inside of those, they don't look like apache2 files
[09:25] <KI7MT> washedout, probably your easiest option is Unetbootin: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[09:25] <washedout> bekks: yes I know, major brain fart.
[09:25] <loostro> i mean.. there is no apache2.conf, sites-avaliable dir, ports.conf.. etc
[09:25] <bekks> loostro: Uninstall apache2 again using apt-get purge apache2, and install it again.
[09:26] <washedout> thank you
[09:26] <loostro> bekks, thats what i did 3 times already, both via command line and synaptic
[09:26] <bekks> loostro: did you uninstall or did you purge?
[09:27] <loostro> i did sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2 (CLI)
[09:27] <loostro> and "uninstall completely" when via synaptic
[09:31] <lotuspsychje> is it possible to switch from non-lts to lts version upgrade?
[09:31] <ObrienDave> i sure hope so *tapping foot, waiting on LTS*
[09:32] <Tex_Nick> lol
[09:33] <ObrienDave> tired of upgrading every 6 months. *needs STABILITY*
[09:33] <KI7MT> 12.04 to 14.04 .. easy anything esle roll the dice :-)
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> ObrienDave: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/12/ubuntu-14-04-alpha-1-released
[09:34] <Tex_Nick> 13.10 has been a bit kludgy here ... not too bad though
[09:34] <ObrienDave> already have my "new releases" ste to LTS only ;)
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> Tex_Nick: i skipped 13.10 and stay on 13.04 rocksolid for now :p
[09:34] <ObrienDave> *set
[09:34] <loostro> bekks do you think upgradeing to 12.10 => 13.04 will help?
[09:34] <KI7MT> Tex_Nick, It's an intermediate release .. all of them are thrashing out the next LTS.
[09:35] <bekks> loostro: No.
[09:35] <Calinou> ObrienDave, it depends of your definition of "stability"
[09:35] <Calinou> non-LTS versions are NOT BROKEN, and are thus STABLE in the definition of "not broken"
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> ObrienDave: 13.04 was very stable for me, never had 1 issue on it
[09:35] <Calinou> they are, however, more changing than the LTS
[09:35] <Tex_Nick> lotuspsychje: 13.04 was same here rock solid
[09:35] <loostro> ok this is weird.. when i do sudo apt-get install apache2 i see 3 steps only happening: download, unpack, configure
[09:35] <Calinou> 13.10 fine here, but there's a power management bug since always on xubuntu... the settings on the power management menu are not used
[09:35] <Tex_Nick> KI7MT: yes sir i understand that ;)
[09:36] <Calinou> lotuspsychje, you'll be unsupported soon, in 1 month
[09:36] <loostro> no promt that "package succesfully installed" or anything like that
[09:36] <ObrienDave> LOL just a tired, cranky, old fart, blowing off steam. *NEVER take me too seriously*
[09:36] <Calinou> you are not supposed to stay on the non-latest non-LTS
[09:36] <loostro> then i check whereis apache2 -> no results
[09:36] <Calinou> ObrienDave, smoking kills
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> Calinou: i know, ill wait an early 14.04 lts, to help sorting bugs out
[09:37] <KI7MT> Calinou, ya can't really, they dont support them long enough :-)
[09:37]  * ObrienDave NOT smoking, STEAMING. *there is a difference* ;P
[09:37] <Calinou> they do, they don't have time to waste supporting old versions
[09:37] <Calinou> it's not hard to do "sudo do-release-upgrade" every 6 months and wait 1-2 hours
[09:37] <Calinou> (you can do other things during that)
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> lol
[09:38] <ObrienDave> !tmi
[09:38] <ObrienDave> LOL
[09:38] <KI7MT> There's no point really, sending the fixes upstream to the LTS, makes good sense to me.
[09:38] <Calinou> say that to the people who claim to have sex here
[09:38] <Calinou> not to me
[09:38] <loostro> find / -name apache2* -> only results in /usr/share/doc.. is this apt-get broken?
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> KI7MT: so its best to install lts clean right?
[09:40] <KI7MT> The problem is, the general public, those not used to the Ubuntu way, thing every release is supposed to be like an LTS, and that's simply not the case.
[09:41] <Tex_Nick> loostro: i'll probably get accused of a lame response here ... but have you used Synaptic to look @ Apache
[09:41] <loostro> Tex_Nick, im not sure what you mean
[09:41] <KI7MT> lotuspsychje, I test release upgrades, but on any machine I use in production, I do a fresh LTS install, but that's just how I do it, other may not.
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> KI7MT: ok tnx
[09:42] <loostro> after apt-get install apache2  Synaptic sais i have apache2 installed
[09:42] <loostro> also another apt-get install apache2 returns "package already installed"
[09:42] <loostro> but! sudo service apache2 status returns "requested a non existant service"
[09:43] <loostro> and find / -name apache2* returns only some doc entries in /usr/share/doc and the man page file
[09:44] <ramses69> giorno
[09:44] <loostro> so the package is not installed.. but apt-get/synaptic think it is.. what is wrong?
[09:44] <KI7MT> loostro, is this a Server install or a Desktop install and you added Apache?
[09:44] <zeorin> Hi, I'm busy trying to turn my Asus EeePad Transformer Prime Android tabler into a proper netbook. I've installed ubuntu on it using instructions I found here: http://lifeinarootshell.blogspot.it/2013/03/howto.html However, I am not able to get it to play nice with Nvidia's tegra 3 drivers for linux. the ubuntu-arm channel is no help (no one answers, at all), so I was wondering if someone here could help me debug the situation?
[09:45] <loostro> desktop
[09:45] <loostro> it was originally 12.04, but recently i upgraded to 12.10
[09:47] <Tex_Nick> loostro: in the event you don't get an answer in this channel ... you might try #httpd
[09:48] <loostro> well... this seems like apt-get issue, not apache2 ?
[09:48] <KI7MT> loostro, #ubuntu-server is a goo resource as well.
[09:48] <KI7MT> good
[09:48] <bekks> loostro: seems like the user deleted files which apt still marked as installed.
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> loostro: or #httpd
[09:50] <KI7MT> I've never ran apache on a desk top install, always a server install, but this his problem really isn't making any sense.
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> zeorin: is this a kind of tablet?
[09:51] <Tex_Nick> bekks: would synaptic provide a better interface for loostro to have a look at what's happening there ?
[09:51] <bekks> Tex_Nick: No.
[09:51] <loostro> bekks: is there a way to "flush" apt cache? to force it to check for apache2?
[09:52] <bekks> loostro: thats not how it works.
[09:52] <loostro> or can i do that somewhere manually?
[09:53] <KI7MT> Well if it's a broken package .. autoclean / clean may, but that's a long shot.
[09:57] <bekks> loostro: pastebin "dpkg -l|grep apache" please, along with "cat /etc/issue".
[09:57] <bekks> !pastebin | loostro
[10:02] <Tex_Nick> loostro: out of curosity, what distro are you using
[10:02] <loostro> i was useing 12.04 but recently i used upgrade manager to update to 12.10
[10:03] <zeorin> sorry, my Xchat crached. Yes it is a type of tablet
[10:03] <loostro> bekks, http://pastebin.com/Uh53C3Aa
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> zeorin: and you want an ubuntu with touch support on it?
[10:04] <bekks> loostro: And where's "cat /etc/issue"?
[10:04] <zeorin> I have an ubuntu with touch support on it
[10:04] <Tex_Nick> ok sir i had a thought ... it wouldn't affect 12.xx though
[10:04] <loostro> cat /etc/issue: Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l
[10:04] <zeorin> but it is not using the nvidia tegra3 driver
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> zeorin: maybe ask in #ubuntu-touch?
[10:06] <zeorin> from what I gather, ubuntu touch is sufficiently different from a Desktop os that I'm not interested in running ubuntu touch on it. But perhaps the devs will be able to help me anyway
[10:06] <KI7MT> lotuspsychje, zeorin have you install the nv-tegra driver from the repos ?
[10:08] <zeorin> yes I have, but that made no difference. I even then installed the driver using the instructions from Nvidia themselves, but that also doesn't help
[10:09] <KI7MT> zeorin, and for info, how did you determine that it's not using the driver?
[10:09] <zeorin> I think it has to do with the fact that the kernel is not standard. In the installation instructions I followed, the kernel is loaded from a different partition, via a kexec-hardboot call, which then loads the files on my ubuntu sd card
[10:10] <zeorin> the kernel is a patched (unclear what patches) version of 3.1.10
[10:10] <zeorin> nvidia's supplied kernel (with tegra3 for linux) is 2.6, which doesn't work for me at all.
[10:11] <cristian_c> Another question
[10:11] <zeorin> I know it's not using it because modprobe nividia returns nothing, about ubuntu dialog shows unknown driver, and unity elements in desktop are all transparent white noise when I upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10
[10:12] <washedout> can i ask a really stupid question?
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> no questions are stupid
[10:12] <cristian_c> I checked brasero and Xfburn
[10:12] <washedout> thank you ^^ i agree
[10:12] <cristian_c> but I found no options for extracting a data cd, such as an encyclopedia
[10:12] <KI7MT> zeorin, was it working wiht 12.04 or was that why you upgraded?
[10:13] <cristian_c> then I installed k3b, but even in this case I found options such
[10:13] <bekks> cristian_c: mount it and copy the content, or dd the cd into an image.
[10:13] <washedout> when i click an application i dowloaded , it says i have to launch an application?
[10:14] <zeorin> It was working with 12.04, but I like to be on the most recent version, especially with arm branch because building software for that if the version I need is not in the repo is a battle.
[10:14] <bekks> washedout: you have to install software first.
[10:14] <cristian_c> bekks, ok
[10:14] <washedout> in terminal?
[10:14] <cristian_c> bekks, but if I use dd to create an .iso image, should I extract the image, then?
[10:14] <cristian_c> and how?
[10:14] <cristian_c> :)
[10:14] <bekks> washedout: search using apt-cache search packagename; and install using sudo apt-get install packagename
[10:15] <bekks> cristian_c: you dont extract an image. An image is not an archive. :)
[10:15] <cristian_c> ok
[10:15] <KI7MT> zeorin, ok, so something broke betweek 04 and 10 then .. not the best solution I know, but maybe a 12.10 fresh install v.s. upgrade may reove it.
[10:15] <bekks> cristian_c: you can mount the cd/image and just copy the files.
[10:15] <washedout> bekks: how do i search?
[10:15] <KI7MT> may resolve it ..
[10:15] <bekks> washedout: I just told you.
[10:15] <zeorin> also, even on 12.04 it was not using tegra3 drivers, but noveau instead, which worked (or rather, unity in 12.04 worked with that), but I think the system would be faster when using the correct SoC drivers. Also, wifi constantly disconnects and bombs out. I figured if I installed nvidias own drivers that could be fixed
[10:15] <cristian_c> bekks, then, I simply copy the cd content
[10:15] <cristian_c> :)
[10:15] <washedout> bekks: lol yeah
[10:15] <zeorin> there's no 12.10 fresh install possible that i know
[10:16] <zeorin> this is the armhf branch that was designed for ac100 toshiba, 'ported' to the transformer prime
[10:17] <zeorin> In any case, I don't that that would help. when I did do-release-upgrade it did warn me that my graphics hardware was not supported any more
[10:17] <KI7MT> zeorin, Ok, so not only is it a special distro, it's a port also.
[10:17] <zeorin> well, not truly a port
[10:17] <KI7MT> :-)
[10:17] <KI7MT> and the plot thickens
[10:17] <zeorin> since it's all armhf, but the kernel is not the one from the repos at all
[10:18] <washedout> bekks: the search command where it says package name should i replace with something, it's not working?
[10:18] <KI7MT> So the kernel is the port, and the rest is armhf
[10:18] <zeorin> yes, I think so
[10:19] <bekks> washedout: it is working. What is the command line you are entering?
[10:19] <Guest90656>  /load .xchat2/budus.so
[10:19] <zeorin> The instructions I followed worked, but beyond direct installation instrcutions, it didn't really explain what they truly were doing, which makes it difficult to really understand the setup now
[10:19] <washedout> apt-cache search packagename
[10:19] <KI7MT> zeorin, well, if you can get your hands on the kernel source for 12.04 that worked, you could compare that to the 12.10 source that's not workign, maybe build your own  for it adding in what's lost in the many translations :-)
[10:21] <bekks> washedout: thats a working command, searching for "packagename".
[10:21] <zeorin> KI7MT, thanks for the help, I'll see where I can get
[10:21] <KI7MT> zeorin, A trip to the ubuntu-motu channel may shed some light on this, those guys are the real gurus for this.
[10:22] <zeorin> thanks, i'll try that if I get stuck again.
[10:24] <washedout> bekks: my bad, bad spelling, i'm pretty new to linux. it didn't install
[10:24] <scotty^> Is this the right channel to report someone spamming a launchpad bug report?
[10:24] <washedout> and the error message is in portuguese
[10:25] <bekks> washedout: Of course. Because that command is for searching only. I told you the command for installing, too.
[10:25] <scotty^> Never mind - I just read the topic  on #launchpad
[10:25] <washedout> bekks: the command for installing didn't work
[10:26] <bekks> washedout: what does it do instead? Sits around and smokes? Whats the entire output of which command? Please pastebin it.
[10:27] <scotty^> !pastebin
[10:29] <anonymous_> FloodBot1, Hello
[10:32] <washedout> don't get me wrong but i fully understand why most people dgaf about linux
[10:32] <washedout> eventhough it rules
[10:32] <washedout> brb pastebin
[10:33] <Guest90656>  /load .xchat2/budus.so
[10:34] <karstenk1977_> plz, can you help me, Ive installed xdebug and it is loaded fine, but I cannot connect to the local port i setup as remote port
[10:34] <karstenk1977_> i try telnet localhost 9090 and get connection refused
[10:34] <karstenk1977_> the port isnt used from another app
[10:35] <bekks> karstenk1977_: Then use lsof -i to see which ports are open actually.
[10:36] <karstenk1977_> the port isnt listed
[10:36] <bekks> karstenk1977_: Then nothing is listening on that port.
[10:38] <karstenk1977_> i was knowing before i ask
[10:38] <karstenk1977_> yes but how can I check why xdebug not opened that port
[10:38] <bekks> karstenk1977_: If nothing is listening, why do you expect it to work? :)
[10:39] <bekks> karstenk1977_: Thats a different question than before. Does xdevug have any options to increase verbosity?
[10:41] <raven> im have some upgrade problems... when im trying to upgrade from 12.10 to 13.10 with sudo do-release-upgrade -d it comes up: Looking for new Ubuntu release. No new release found??
[10:41] <karstenk1977_> dont know, its only  a apche2 modul
[10:41] <motaka2> hello
[10:42] <bekks> karstenk1977_: Then take a look at its documentation, on how to configure it, or increase verbosity.
[10:42] <MonkeyDust> raven  -d means development, iirc
[10:42] <bekks> raven: you have to upgrade to 13.04 first.
[10:42] <MonkeyDust> raven  i guess that would be 14.04, which is not yet available
[10:43] <raven> but the same message comes with sudo do-release-upgrade...
[10:43] <motaka2> I am using ubuntu 12.04 and last night when I started my computer it ended to a page saying disconnected from plymouth, I went to the boot history I have chosen an old startup and now it works. but whenever I restart the computer I should do this. How can I replace that old option with the current option?
[10:45] <raven> how do i upragde to 13.04 from 12.10?
[10:45] <washedout> bekks: sry for my rant but i've used linux for some years off and on and i've found that users though trying to help are often passive aggressive and i don't get that
[10:45] <raven> from 12.10 to 13.04 i mean
[10:45] <washedout> also http://paste.ubuntu.com/6610659/plain/
[10:46] <Pacy> Is there anyone who uses anonymous os
[10:46] <Pacy> ?
[10:49] <bekks> washedout: Whyever you think people are passively agressive when just asking for details of "doesnt work".
[10:49] <washedout> bekks: you just snapped at me for no reason, i swear to god
[10:50] <bekks> washedout: I didnt, and I will not. I am resting your case. Good luck.
[10:50] <shafox> KI7MT, after checkinstall runs i should do "sudo dpkg -i package.deb" ??
[10:50] <washedout> and that other guy alling me windows freak or whatever
[10:50] <washedout> i'm asking the brazillian guys
[10:50] <washedout> they are more civil
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> oO
[10:51] <Calinou> raven, sudo do-release upgrade
[10:51] <Calinou> raven, sudo do-release-upgrade
[10:51] <Calinou> or, you can do it graphically, in the Software Updater menu
[10:51] <Calinou> you'll have to edit the Software Sources to allow upgrading to non-LTS versions first
[10:52] <raven> it gave me: Looking for new Ubuntu relase. No new release found.  ?
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> raven  backup and frsh install would be faster, easier, cleaner
[10:52] <cfhowlett> raven, ^^^^ this
[10:52] <raven> yeah im thinking on it to reinstall a fresh system from live cd
[10:52] <Calinou> ...
[10:52] <Calinou> MonkeyDust, cfhowlett, STOP fucking shooting a bullet in your feet
[10:53] <Calinou> the upgrades DO WORK
[10:53] <Calinou> so, shut up
[10:53] <Calinou> stop being such LTS fanboys
[10:53] <MonkeyDust> Calinou  please try to behave while you're here
[10:53] <Calinou> sorry for the language
[10:53] <oolaolo> upgrades rarely work cleanly
[10:53] <motaka2> why no one helps me?
[10:53] <cfhowlett> Calinou, I've been in channel 60 seconds and you're throwing profanity at me?  <ignored>
[10:54] <cfhowlett> motaka2, details.
[10:54] <bekks> cfhowlett: well played. :)
[10:54] <Calinou> oolaolo, they did for me, 4 upgrades on 3 PCs
[10:54] <Calinou> so, stop the LTS fanboying and the clean install fanboying
[10:54] <Calinou> you have the possibility to upgrade without reinstalling for a reason
[10:54] <Calinou> oolaolo, one of the PCs I upgraded on even used a non-free driver
[10:55] <Calinou> it is not my problem if you use 150 PPAs, use do-release-upgrade and then whine
[10:55] <motaka2> cfhowlett: everytime I restart my computer I have to go to other linux back ups or something like that and choose an old version. I don't want to do this. what should I do ?
[10:55] <Guest90656>           Scarica il file  da
[10:55] <Guest90656>           Scarica il file  da http://xdcc_23
[10:56] <imghost> !ops | calinou
[10:56] <Calinou> imghost, what?
[10:56] <cfhowlett> motaka2, everytime?  have you updated recently?  I'm *guessing*  a new kernel issue is causing your machine to hiccup.  it happens.  as for the fix: without knowing the cause from error messages ...
[10:56] <imghost> Calinou, behave nicely, keep this channel friendly always
[10:57] <lotuspsychje> imghost: you got the wrong guy
[10:57] <Calinou> why are you trying to get me sanctionned? I have stopped
[10:57] <Calinou> it is NOT an emergency
[10:57] <lotuspsychje> imghost: Calinou is helping us a lot here
[10:57] <motaka2> cfhowlett: yes everytime. I always confirm all updates the system suggest me. Although I have not updated ubuntu 12.04 to a higher version
[10:57] <MonkeyDust> Calinou  we get the message, let's get on, shall we
[10:57] <Calinou> ok
[10:58] <Calinou> truth successfully restored
[10:59] <cfhowlett> motaka2, try this; upgrades and distribution upgrades on the current version:  sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:59] <motaka2> ok lemme try.
[10:59] <cfhowlett> motaka2, but run sudo apt-get updates first
[11:00] <motaka2> so first : sudo apt-get updates
[11:00] <imghost> lotuspsychje, helping others is very very good thing but using bad words is also very very bad
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> imghost: correct sorry, didnt scroll up at first
[11:01] <imghost> lotuspsychje, its ok cheers :)
[11:01] <Calinou> cfhowlett, "distribution upgrades", and you're wrong again: dist-upgrade just allows "upgrade" to install new packages if needed, such as kernels
[11:01] <Calinou> it does not upgrade your distro or infrastructure in any way
[11:02] <cfhowlett> Calinou, which is precisely what i SAID.  Read more, post less
[11:03] <andyfied> hawt! file server is headless and apcupsd is configured
[11:06] <Physicist> Is here someone from Canada?
[11:06] <Calinou> why?
[11:07] <VitoCorleone> Physicist: We're all Canadians.
[11:07] <VitoCorleone> Canada, is the homeland of Ubuntu.
[11:08] <VitoCorleone> We simply cannot live our lives without meeting a graceful, and a light-hearted Canadian.
[11:08] <VitoCorleone> Also, Ubuntu's original name was CanadianLinux
[11:08] <VitoCorleone> but it offended americans, therefore...the name was changed to Ubuntu so that we can make niggers and white guys happyy.
[11:08] <VitoCorleone> The name, Ubuntu...made everybody happy.
[11:08] <cfhowlett> !ops|VitoCorleone,
[11:09] <ObrienDave> how to be an idiot in 6 easy lines
[11:09] <Physicist> Holy damn moises..
[11:09] <Physicist> Thank you all..
[11:09] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, it's a disease; cranial-rectal inversion syndrome.
[11:10] <Calinou> cfhowlett, it's not an emergency. stop the abuse of ops
[11:10] <eer> Since today all SSL sites don't work anymore.  I am asked to add an exception for all sites that use SSL. Any idea? I am using Firefox, latest version.
[11:10] <cfhowlett> Physicist, what's the nature of your issue
[11:10] <cfhowlett> Calinou, read the rules.  racism is prohibited.
[11:10] <ObrienDave> ahhh, the head up the ying-yang syndrome ;P
[11:11] <Physicist> cfhowlett: I've got an issue about my amd driver, not particularly about North America.. I like it rather.
[11:12] <Physicist> cfhowlett: I do not need help anymore, thank you.
[11:12] <cfhowlett> Physicist, happy holidaze
[11:12] <lazyfingers> hello ! does anyone have any idea how to make caps work like control again? ubuntu 13.10, thanks
[11:14] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, that syndrome is almost as bad as diarrhea fingers or motor mouth LOL ;P
[11:14] <Myrtti> move on guys
[11:17] <Roy1994> Is anyone who use tsclient?
[11:18] <Roy1994> !ls
[11:19] <Roy1994> !screen
[11:19] <lelele> how will desktop automounting work when you have an entry in fstab?
[11:19] <lazyfingers> !give me back my caps as control
[11:20] <lazyfingers> 13.04 > 13.10
[11:20] <subz3r0> do i still need the alternate cd of 12.04 for system encryption with luks?
[11:24] <Physicist> Is google adopting Opera's and Mozzila's engine, to use html5 or isn't necessary?
[11:24] <subz3r0> do i still need the alternate cd of 12.04 for system encryption with luks?
[11:25] <mahmoud_> yup
[11:25] <Physicist> Ihttps://www.google.com.br/webhp?tab=ww&ei=1Hm1UtioIIq1kAf_-IHAAg&ved=0CBAQ1S4
[11:26] <bekks> Physicist: google ships its own rendering engine.
[11:26] <subz3r0> mahmoud_: was that "yup" about my question?
[11:26] <mahmoud_> My back needs a real fuck :(
[11:27] <bekks> mahmoud_: You nick needs an ignore, that sufficient.
[11:27] <cfhowlett> !language|mahmoud_,
[11:27] <mahmoud_> sorry guys
[11:28] <motaka2> mahmoud_: Watch your language
[11:28] <mahmoud_> I am just in a bad mode
[11:28] <Laloyo> !language|mahmoud_,
[11:28] <motaka2> cfhowlett: i ran sudo apt-get update and I got an error
[11:28] <mahmoud_> what error are you talking about?
[11:29] <Laloyo> witch error
[11:29] <Laloyo> ?
[11:29] <mahmoud_> It should work :)
[11:29] <lelele> !language|lelele
[11:30] <Roy1994>  /part
[11:30] <motaka2> Laloyo: cfhowlett http://codepaste.net/mdba3b
[11:30] <Roy1994>  /part
[11:30] <Roy1994>  /part
[11:30] <subz3r0> --> /part #channel
[11:30] <mahmoud_> what is /part?
[11:30] <subz3r0> or /leave #channel
[11:30] <subz3r0> ask your dictionary what "part" means :D
[11:30] <Physicist> Guys, I'd like to use my mobile broadband to make call as well.
[11:30] <mahmoud_> you are really funny :(
[11:31] <cfhowlett> !who
[11:31] <motaka2> cfhowlett: !who is for me?
[11:32] <cfhowlett> motaka2, package maintainer needs to address that.  doesn't necessarily mean a bad package ... PPA, same story
[11:32] <motaka2> cfhowlett: what woiuld sudo apt-get dist-upgrade do ?
[11:32] <mahmoud_> I am gonna take my shower right now .. Bye guys
[11:32] <motaka2> cfhowlett: I want to keep my ubuntu on 12.04
[11:33] <ObrienDave> motaka2, basically, update everything including kernels
[11:33] <cfhowlett> motaka2, apt-get dist-upgrade brings all packages up to the most current release - same distro.  so 12.04 to 12.04.3
[11:33] <ObrienDave> motaka2, will NOT update Ubuntu version
[11:34] <motaka2> cfhowlett: ok after running those two commands, this is the output http://codepaste.net/cap5j8
[11:34] <ObrienDave> motaka2, means you are up-to-date
[11:35] <cfhowlett> motaka2, you are as updated as you can be then.
[11:35] <cfhowlett> motaka2, smile!
[11:35] <Physicist> Well, I can send sms and no calls.
[11:35] <motaka2> cfhowlett: :) so this time , if I restart i dont need to goo to boot history and choose an old one?
[11:36] <Physicist> I could compile my modem's software in my raring..
[11:36] <cfhowlett> motaka2, if the new kernel fixes things ... no.  try and see!
[11:36] <motaka2> cfhowlett: let's see
[11:37] <Physicist> !phone
[11:37] <Physicist> --
[11:38] <debfan> hey
[11:38] <ObrienDave> hey
[11:38] <debfan> I want to re-install ubuntu 13.10 but I forget where to install grub... I read so many how-tos but they never mention it
[11:39] <debfan> and advice for that?   I have win7 in sda
[11:39] <pacy_> hey Defan
[11:39] <debfan> hi
[11:39] <ObrienDave> install to sda
[11:39] <lelele> how do you change where X starts? 'cause it's starting at tty1 at mine.
[11:39] <debfan> mbr?
[11:39] <Physicist> !icall
[11:40] <pacy_> ObrienDave, any?
[11:40] <cfhowlett> debarko, usually, grubs goes to /dev/sda
[11:40] <ObrienDave> sda is the first HD
[11:40] <Physicist> Anybody knows about:http: www.icall.com/features/voice-calling
[11:41] <cfhowlett> Physicist, what country are you in?
[11:41] <ObrienDave> sda1 is 1st partition, 1st drive. sda2 is second partition, 1st drive etc...
[11:42] <Physicist> Brazil
[11:42] <MonkeyDust> !br
[11:42] <pacy_> Hello
[11:42] <Physicist> MonkeyDust: Why?
[11:42] <cfhowlett> Physicist, never mind.  blackberry messenger and wechat are free and easy.  wechat has the web wechat extension through your browswer.  works great.
[11:42] <pacy_> I have intalled windows the Ubuntu went missing , How can i solve it?
[11:42] <MonkeyDust> Physicist  apology, thought you wanted to change channels
[11:43] <debfan> oh, my os is on sdb2
[11:43] <debfan> so I'd install grub on /dev/sdb right?
[11:43] <debfan> win7 on sdb1 and i have an old ubuntu on sdb2
[11:43] <ObrienDave> so, what's on sda?
[11:44] <debfan> so, i thought format sdb2 and re-install
[11:44] <debfan> ObrienDave: it's just a 1tb data drive
[11:44] <pacy_> Please help me
[11:44] <Physicist> cfhowlett: I'd like to be able to do pc-phone calls. I already use my internet provider to send sms and works fine..
[11:45] <Physicist> pacy_: ok..
[11:45] <ObrienDave> debfan, afaik, that is not possible. your boot drive, mbr or gpt is always sda
[11:45] <pacy_> Physicist, My question is I don't see the list to choose anymore
[11:46] <Physicist> pacy_: So, the boot loader is missing? Or only Ubuntu?
[11:46] <pacy_> Physicist, I want the list of Operating system to reappear on boot.
[11:46] <debfan> oh, i notice a boot flag in sdb2
[11:47] <ObrienDave> well, that's a new one on me
[11:47] <cfhowlett> !details|pacy_, details matter.
[11:47] <pacy_> Physicist, I think so because it is booting straight to windows
[11:47] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, nope.  you can send grub anywhere.
[11:47] <debfan> so, i should have an option to install grub in /dev/sdb2 then, right?
[11:48] <ObrienDave> oks
[11:48] <debfan> cfhowlett: does that make sense?
[11:48] <Physicist> The principal O.S. become Windows after the installation, You have to access boot loader from windows and change the time out.
[11:48] <cfhowlett> debfan, yes, but I don't have enough dual HDD to give good advice.   sorry.
[11:48] <pacy_> I have ubuntu 12 my windows 7 was attacked by viruses then I decided to reinstall
[11:49] <debfan> cfhowlett: no problem
[11:49] <cfhowlett> pacy_, your ubuntu is there.  you lost grub.  reinstalll grub and it's fixed.
[11:49] <cfhowlett> !grub
[11:49] <debfan> I always mix this stuff up
[11:49] <Physicist> pacy_: ^
[11:49] <debfan> i want to eventually have the OS boot on separate drives
[11:49] <ObrienDave> debfan, LOL we all do :)
[11:49] <pacy_> cfhowlett, How can i install grub
[11:49] <debfan> ObrienDave: really? lol
[11:50] <debfan> I just thought i was bad
[11:50] <pacy_> Physicist, yes
[11:50] <Physicist> cfhowlett: He probably has access only for windows..
[11:50] <debfan> I'm ok with all other aspects of the install..
[11:50] <cfhowlett> debfan, no, every dual booter has to learn some details eventually.  consider yourself initiated.
[11:50] <ObrienDave> !yay | debfan
[11:50] <Physicist> pacy_: You can reinstall grub from a live cd. Its a easy process.. Hang on.
[11:51] <Physicist> I mean. Wait.
[11:51] <cfhowlett> !grub>pacy_,
[11:51] <cfhowlett> !grub > pacy_,
[11:51] <pacy_> Obutu but because I had both windows 7 and ubuntu , after installing re-windows I lost Ubuntu but its partition is still there briefly I am missing a way to enter ubuntu because no list when i start my computer
[11:52] <Physicist> pacy_: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[11:52] <cfhowlett> pacy reinstall grub.  get a live cd and follow the steps.
[11:52] <pacy_> I can't get a terminal
[11:52] <cfhowlett> pacy_, boot live CD.   Use terminal.
[11:53] <pacy_> cfhowlett, can u tell me the steps if u remember?
[11:53] <Physicist> ^
[11:53] <cfhowlett> pacy_, nope.  that's a platinum member level of support.  READ
[11:53] <cfhowlett> !grub
[11:53] <Physicist> pacy_: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[11:53] <Physicist> ?
[11:54] <Physicist> Its simple.
[11:54] <Sh1G3rU> !yay me
[11:54] <lazyfingers> does anyone have any idea how to make caps work like control again? ubuntu 13.10, thanks
[11:55] <pacy_> Physicist, ok let me see links
[11:55] <Tex_Nick> lazyfingers: specifically ?
[11:56] <Physicist> pacy_: All you need is a Live cd and the connect with the internet. ( from there..
[11:56] <lazyfingers> Tex_Nick, before 13.10 it was possible to remap caps to behave like control, now it's not possible; even more, if i change it via setxkbmap it goes back in a couple of seconds.. annoys like hell
[12:00] <pacy_> Physicist, Thank you
[12:00] <pacy_> cfhowlett, thank you
[12:00] <Physicist> pacy_: You're welcome.
[12:00] <cfhowlett> pacy_, good luck
[12:02] <pacy_> cfhowlett, Excuse me have you ever used the new tools of anonymous os?
[12:02]  * ObrienDave uses tor and TAILS
[12:03] <pacy_> Physicist, Have u ever used the new anonymous tools of anonymous os?
[12:03] <pacy_> pency, Hello
[12:04] <Physicist> pacy_: Nope.
[12:04] <pacy_> ok
[12:04] <Physicist> pacy_: Which one exactely?
[12:05] <ObrienDave> pacy_, http://news.yahoo.com/anonymous-os-probably-shouldnt-download-125024416.html
[12:05] <pacy_> Physicist, There is one new operating system called anonymous os
[12:05] <Physicist> pacy_: Actually I never met.
[12:06] <Physicist> :-|
[12:06] <pacy_> Physicist, take a look http://news.yahoo.com/anonymous-os-probably-shouldnt-download-125024416.html
[12:06] <lazyfingers> Tex_Nick, no idea?
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> pacy_  careful now... about anonymous os: "Warning : It is not developed by any Genuine Source, can be backdoored OS by any Law enforcement Company or Hacker. Use at your own Risk."
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> Read more: http://thehackernews.com/2012/03/anonymous-os-01-anonymous-hackers.html#
[12:08] <cfhowlett> pacy_, sorry, no I have not.
[12:08] <Physicist> pacy_: I agree with MonkeyDust. Hardly believable.
[12:08] <Tex_Nick> lazyfingers: no not really ... it's not something i've ever considered doing ... i am looking @ info setxkbmap though ... i find no clue there ... out of curosity ... why do you want to do that ?
[12:08] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust, wow!  sounds as safe as secure as Red Star Linux!
[12:09] <ObrienDave> pacy_, if you really want anonymity, look into TAILS
[12:09] <lazyfingers> Tex_Nick, I use emacs key-bindings
[12:10] <Guest21446> hey am new on this network
[12:10] <pacy_> Guest21446, Welcom
[12:10] <pacy_> e
[12:10] <ObrienDave> pacy_, https://tails.boum.org/
[12:11] <cfhowlett> Guest21446, greetings
[12:11] <pacy_> Physicist, Do u want to mean that it can be harmful?
[12:11] <Guest21446> is any of you guys using backtrack
[12:11] <Physicist> pacy_: I already was a user of backtrack, the new Kali, and is a high secure O.S. with lots of advanced tools.
[12:11] <Guest21446> ??
[12:12] <Physicist> Guest21446: ^ Was!
[12:12] <cfhowlett> Guest21446 backtrack is not supported here .. plus I believe it's now called kali linux
[12:12] <bekks> pacy_: Of course.
[12:12] <pacy_> Physicist, Should i switch from Anonymous os to backtrack?
[12:12] <Physicist> pacy_: Are you using it?
[12:12] <tobitobsy> hi!
[12:12] <pacy_> Physicist, Yes
[12:13] <tobitobsy> i'm doing the yearly maintenance on my mom's computerwhich runs ubuntu 12.04 LTS with the xubuntu desktop. i just ran ubuntu-support-status and am surprised to see that xubuntu-desktop and many other packes are listed as unsupported. why is this?
[12:13] <pacy_> bekks, What about backtrack?
[12:13] <Guest21446> backtrack is damn good
[12:13] <bekks> pacy_: Discontinued and not supported in here.
[12:13] <Physicist> Its Kali Linux. Its an amazing O.S. based on Debian. If you have or want easy or hard targets, go on..
[12:14] <Tex_Nick> lazyfingers: let met give that a try ... have you asked in #emacs ?
[12:14] <lazyfingers> Tex_Nick, it has no connection to emacs, it's a 13.10 ubuntu problem
[12:14] <lazyfingers> always worked until 13.10
[12:15] <pacy_> Physicist,On some sites they say that most of backtrack tools are useless, What do u think?
[12:15] <Physicist> bekks: Yes, exactly. But can be used as well updated..
[12:15] <llutz> !ot | pacy_
[12:15] <pacy_> bekks, Why?
[12:16] <Physicist> pacy_: Depend about your necessity.
[12:16] <Tex_Nick> lazyfingers: exactly what command are you using in terminal to do that ... let me try to duplicate
[12:16] <Akiva-Mobile> I'm developing a game on ubuntu. Just curious, can I utilize the ubuntu account login?
[12:16] <pacy_> ubuttu, All os that I am talking to is ubuntu based check
[12:16] <bekks> !backtrack | pacy_
[12:16] <Physicist> Some people use to be a kind of hacker or something but its ignorance rather.
[12:16] <llutz> pacy_: and all are offtopic here
[12:16] <Akiva-Mobile> you know, how you can login using your google info, does the same apply to ubuntu?
[12:16] <cfhowlett> pacy_, doesn't matter.  UBUNTU is supported here.  others are not.  read the rules, please.
[12:16] <Physicist> Some people use to be a kind of hacker or something but its ignorance rather. pacy_
[12:17] <lazyfingers> Tex_Nick, setxkbmap -option ctrl:nocaps
[12:17] <Physicist> Agreed.
[12:17] <cfhowlett> Akiva-Mobile, confused  - you mean what exactly.
[12:17] <pacy_> Agreed
[12:17] <lazyfingers> Tex_Nick, before it was also possible to remap in layout settings
[12:18] <Akiva-Mobile> cfhowlett: Think stack exchange; there are many ways you can login to it.
[12:18] <pacy_> Physicist, but I want to be a Network Administrator in future that's why i wanted some information
[12:18] <cfhowlett> Akiva-Mobile, I believe your ubuntun (launchpad?) credentials will suffice
[12:19] <cfhowlett> pacy_, the off-topic channel is the place for this discussion.
[12:19] <Akiva-Mobile> cfhowlett: No see, i'm trying to impliment this into my application im developing.
[12:19] <Physicist> cfhowlett: How can I talk private with him?
[12:19] <cfhowlett> Akiva-Mobile, I'm going to reveal and plead my ignorance as it's over my head.  sorry.
[12:19] <Akiva-Mobile> cfhowlett: np
[12:19] <Physicist> Information is free.
[12:20] <Akiva-Mobile> !ubuntu
[12:20] <Akiva-Mobile> !support
[12:20] <Akiva-Mobile> !developers
[12:21] <MonkeyDust> Akiva-Mobile  what are you looking for? there's also #ubuntu-app-devel
[12:21] <cfhowlett> Physicist, click on his name should give you the private message option ...
[12:21] <Akiva-Mobile> MonkeyDust: you read my mind
[12:21] <Akiva-Mobile> thansk
[12:21] <Physicist> ok..
[12:21] <ObrienDave> right click
[12:22] <Guest21446> hey i cant install emacs24 on backtrack
[12:22] <Guest21446> some help please!!
[12:23] <llutz> !backtrack | Guest21446
[12:23] <pacy_> obutu: kali-linux is empty no active users
[12:23] <Akiva-Mobile> how many different types of ubuntu accounts are there? is it just launchpad and ubuntu one now?
[12:23] <Akiva-Mobile> or is ubuntu forums still different?
[12:26] <ice9> does empathy supports IRC accounts?
[12:26] <ztane> anyone know how can I make my mint into ubuntu plain without reinstalling
[12:27] <cfhowlett> ztane, no.  clean install is your best bet.
[12:28] <sharp15> is it possible to have ubuntu not manage the grub/bootloader installation?  i am planning to multiboot.
[12:28] <llutz> sharp15: sure, just don't write *buntu grub into mbr
[12:28] <ztane> cfhowlett: ok...
[12:28] <cfhowlett> sharp15, of course.  don't install grub or install your preferred bootloader over grub
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> ztane  i tried it too, guess it's not possible, re-installed ubuntu
[12:47] <aroma_> hello everybosy
[12:47] <aroma_> body
[12:57] <willbradley> ohai
[12:59] <andyfied> hello
[13:00] <willbradley> how goes the great war?
[13:00] <andyfied> outcome uncertain
[13:00]  * willbradley shakes 8 Ball again
[13:01] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:02] <A_Paternoster> Hello guys :) I've a problem with Ubuntu One :( Can I sync only some sub-folder of a folder ? Thanks in advance
[13:02] <cfhowlett> A_Paternoster, yes you can specify which folders U-One captures.
[13:04] <renegade332> hey, was sagt mir error code 0?
[13:05] <A_Paternoster> cfhowlett, yes but I would like to mantain the folder tree. For example I've School and in this folder I've English, Math, IT... I would like to sunc the School folder but I would like to sunc only math and IT... but these folder must be in school folder...
[13:05] <A_Paternoster> cfhowlett, my english is not so good.. :(
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> renegade332  haengt davon ab, wo du es siehst, support in #ubuntu-de
[13:06] <cfhowlett> A_Paternoster, I understand.  setting up my English Teaching Files has been a monster.
[13:07] <kskksksk> hi all, i am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS and i want to install HUAWEI mobile partner software for him in linux, i have a generic package for linux but got this error,  help me to solve these errors http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6611261/
[13:07] <cfhowlett> A_Paternoster, not sure how you can capture the folder path as well as the data ... personally, I'm happy just to have the back up.
[13:09] <kskksksk> why it is saying that there is no sudo command in my system, while i installed it using sudo command, i mean most of time i do some tasks with sudo
[13:09] <A_Paternoster> cfhowlett, ok :) It is not a big problem. It is only a question of "tidy"
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> kskksksk  type     apt-cache policy sudo     does it say "installed"?
[13:10] <cfhowlett> A_Paternoster, understood.
[13:10] <kskksksk> sudo:
[13:10] <kskksksk>   Installed: 1.8.3p1-1ubuntu3.4
[13:10] <kskksksk>   Candidate: 1.8.3p1-1ubuntu3.4
[13:10] <kskksksk>   Version table:
[13:10] <kskksksk>  *** 1.8.3p1-1ubuntu3.4 0
[13:10] <FloodBot1> kskksksk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:11] <kskksksk> MonkeyDust: yes, it is installed
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> kskksksk  i noticed :)
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> kskksksk  what's the exact message? use !pastebin to show it to the channel
[13:14] <kskksksk> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6611261/
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> kskksksk  and can you use sudo for other actions?
[13:21] <kskksksk> yes, very well
[13:21] <kskksksk> for example to install some program and all
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> kskksksk  then it's the huawei installer that causes it, it's not sudo related
[13:23] <kskksksk> MonkeyDust: what about other errors, since installer starts and do some jobs
[13:24] <kskksksk> MonkeyDust: like this Install NDIS driver failed. The compiling environment is not all ready. Please check gcc, make and kernel buid(/lib/modules/3.8.0-29-generic/build) to be all installed? Now please enter any key to finish other installations.
[13:25] <kskksksk> when i press some key , then it transfer some more files
[13:25] <kskksksk> how to install NDIS driver and how to make compliing environment ready
[13:27] <Fanthomas90> hi!
[13:27] <pacy_> hi Fanthomas90
[13:28] <Fanthomas90> I have a programm with a fixed windows size (800x600) and want to scale this up. Are there any tools which can do so?
[13:28] <kskksksk> hi all, please see that http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6611261/ and help me to solve this error : > install NDIS driver failed. The compiling environment is not all ready. Please check gcc, make and kernel buid(/lib/modules/3.8.0-29-generic/build) to be all installed? Now please enter any key to finish other installations
[13:29] <Fanthomas90> just streching the picture would be fine
[13:29] <pacy_> Soory I can't manage mr kskksksk
[13:30] <kskksksk> :D pacy_
[13:31] <llutz>  kskksksk what is the output of "lsb_release -sd"
[13:38] <alkamid> Hi. I've just discovered a very strange behaviour in 12.04. I am trying to add a caption to a photo uploaded to google+, but whenever I click "alt" (in Polish, alt is used to type diacritics), it exits the text field. I have just tried the same thing on windows, so it is not a google+ bug
[13:39] <alkamid> but I haven't seen this behavior anywhere else
[13:39] <willbradley> what happens when you press alt, only a defocusing of that field or does an Ubuntu menu come up
[13:39] <alkamid> willbradley, only defocusing
[13:39] <alkamid> it's right alt
[13:40] <willbradley> only on google+?
[13:40] <alkamid> willbradley, apparently yes
[13:43] <willbradley> do you hold down the alt button or press it?
[13:43] <alkamid> just press
[13:44] <willbradley> for me on 13.04 that opens up the application-specific alt menu which is a feature in ubuntu 13+
[13:45] <willbradley> however even when i just hold alt, it defocuses (and opens the chrome menu)
[13:45] <willbradley> so it may be a chrome linux issue
[13:45] <willbradley> or polish keyboard issue
[13:46] <alkamid> willbradley, I tested it on firefox as well
[13:48] <willbradley> broken on ubuntu firefox?
[13:48] <alkamid> willbradley, yes
[13:48] <willbradley> what focuses?
[13:49] <willbradley> i.e. what happens if you press space/left/right/tab/etc
[13:51] <alkamid> willbradley, it is the same as on chrome
[13:51] <alkamid> so only right alt defocuses
[13:51] <alkamid> the rest works as expected: left alt opens "type your command" on the top of the screen
[13:52] <alkamid> ctrls do nothing
[13:52] <alkamid> etc.
[13:52] <alkamid> (lunch, brb)
[13:53] <willbradley> so if you press right alt and then press space, what happens?
[14:06] <hkr> Hi ?
[14:07] <hkr> Is xubuntu supported in this channel ?
[14:07] <kostkon> hkr, yes
[14:07] <hkr> Ok. Thanks :)
[14:08] <Sonderblade> what package is needed to get totem to play asf streams?
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> Sonderblade  try ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:08] <cfhowlett> Sonderblade, ^^^^
[14:09] <hkr> Or maybe gst-plugins-ugly
[14:09] <natas_> Hello everyone, I am having a real problem with my debconf, I cannot install any applications that use it, which won't let me reinstall it to fix it, and for some reason I can't even delete it. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6611532/
[14:09] <Sonderblade> MonkeyDust: got that package but it doesnt make a difference
[14:10] <hkr> Sonderblade, Try gst-plugins-ugly.
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> Sonderblade  then try hkr 's tip
[14:10] <Sonderblade> hkr: have that one too
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> Sonderblade  what file or site is giving issues?
[14:11] <hkr> Make sure you have GStreamer Base Plug-ins too.
[14:12] <natas_> is there a way to recover an ubuntu live usb's debconf?
[14:16] <alkamid> willbradley, it goes fullscreen
[14:16] <[[thufir]]> how do I make this execute as a script?  http://pastebin.com/DfNYKpCu  it works when I just type the command in, but I want to make it executable.  I did chmod +x on the file.
[14:16] <alkamid> with alt+space
[14:17] <llutz> [[thufir]]: use full path to "minerd" not ./
[14:17] <[[thufir]]> llutz: thought something like that. thx
[14:19] <willbradley> alkamid: not alt+space but alt, space
[14:23] <[[thufir]]> ok, I put a new file cron.d directory to execute that script.  do I need to prompt cron?  don't want to reboot just to test it.
[14:24] <llutz> [[thufir]]: no action needed, cron will use the file next run
[14:24] <harikrishnan> #freenode
[14:25] <cuddylier> Is it possible to kill all processes started with a certain command?
[14:25] <[[thufir]]>  1	*/10 * * * * /home/thufir/cpuminer/webxass   should run every ten minute, right?
[14:26] <llutz> [[thufir]]: yes
[14:26] <llutz> cuddylier: yes, read "man pkill"
[14:26] <yeats> cuddylier: often (but not always), killing the parent process kills the child process
[14:27] <cuddylier> yeats Thing is, I don't want to kill all of the processes of this program
[14:27] <cuddylier> Only the processes started with a certain command
[14:28] <llutz> cuddylier: where pkill -f  might be useful
[14:29] <cuddylier> So pkill -f [command used]?
[14:30] <cuddylier> Doesn't seem to work, says invalid option
[14:30] <cuddylier> hmm
[14:31] <yeats> cuddylier: what are you literally typing? can you copy/paste?
[14:31] <alkamid> willbradley, alt, space results in fullscreen
[14:32] <alkamid> alt simply defocuses from the text field
[14:32] <cuddylier> yeats: pkill -f redir --laddr=199.83.50.44 --lport=25565 --caddr=66.85.139.147 --cport=25565
[14:32] <alkamid> and space is a shortcut for fullscreen
[14:32] <llutz> cuddylier: you may want to use "-f  --   "your-command -with -some -"
[14:32] <mcnesium> in the default applications of that ubuntu 13.10 i have here there is no browser to select. firefox and chromium are installed on the system. when i click links in chat programs gedit opens with the source code. how can i get firefox in that default apps select box?
[14:32] <cuddylier> WHat do you exactly mean by that llutz
[14:33] <llutz>  pkill -f -- "redir rest of cour yommand"
[14:33] <hkr> Click browse and navigate to "/usr/bin/"
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> mcnesium  open the brower and "set as default" in its settings
[14:33] <llutz> your*
[14:34] <cuddylier> llutz: Nope, same problem
[14:34] <llutz> cuddylier: ^^ see above
[14:34] <hkr> How do I see a list of commands I can use ?
[14:34] <cuddylier> alert &b&lAll servers will go offline &4&lNOW&b for up to 5 minutes for Hub system optimisation changes.
[14:34] <cuddylier> pkill -f -- redir --laddr=199.83.50.44 --lport=25565 --caddr=66.85.139.147 --cport=25565
[14:34] <cuddylier> oops
[14:34] <mcnesium> MonkeyDust: well, that was easy. thank you :)
[14:34] <cuddylier> pkill -f -- redir --laddr=199.83.50.44 --lport=25565 --caddr=66.85.139.147 --cport=25565
[14:34] <cuddylier> That's what I typed
[14:35] <m00xdem00x> Can someone recommend me a channel which discusses Networking and Network Protocols?
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> m00xdem00x  ##networking (double #)
[14:36] <[[thufir]]> I put this:   1	1	1 * * * * /home/thufir/cpuminer/webxass   into a file in cron.d/ but I know it's not running the webxass script, because the webxass script pegs the cpu.  is that cron file correct?  I want it to run every minute (well, for right now)
[14:36] <Ilmen> Hello
[14:36] <m00xdem00x> MonkeyDust: Thanks :)
[14:36] <Pacy> Hello
[14:36] <llutz> [[thufir]]: what is the cron-filename?
[14:36] <bekks> [[thufir]]: pastebin the crontab please
[14:36] <cfhowlett> Ilmen, greetings
[14:38] <llutz> [[thufir]]: files in cron.d must not have extensions. or better: they must not contain a "." (dot)
[14:40] <Ilmen> I was having a try to the KDE plasma desktop (I only installed the core package) and it works fine; however afterward I had the bad idea to install the package kubuntu-default-settings and now my boot entry has been renamed to "kubuntu" and the log-in screen changed to a blue one with personnal avatar etc. I thought it changed the session manager to kdm, but running "dpkg-reconfigure lightdm" didn
[14:40] <Ilmen> didn't work
[14:40] <[[thufir]]> bekks: one sec
[14:41] <bencc2> can I install debian package as is on ubuntu?
[14:41] <Ilmen> I uninstalled the aforementioned package (kubuntu-default-settings) but the blue logon screen is still present
[14:41] <bencc2> freesiwtch has a script to build a package for debian https://github.com/FreeSWITCH/FreeSWITCH/blob/master/scripts/ci/debsrcbuilder.sh
[14:41] <bencc2> I wonder if it should work for ubuntu too
[14:42] <hkr> I don't think so bencc2
[14:42] <MonkeyDust> bencc2  my advice: first try it with a live usb or dvd, see if it works
[14:42] <hkr> I'm not expert. Don't take my word for it. Try a live CD like Monkey said
[14:42] <Ilmen> Any idea how I can restore the normal Ubuntu logon sceen?
[14:42] <bencc2> MonkeyDust: trying in vbox
[14:43] <bekks> bencc2: vboxcant boot from an usb device.
[14:43] <MonkeyDust> Ilmen  try this, I used it just yesterday, it worked      sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth
[14:43] <[[thufir]]> this is my cron file stuff:    http://pastebin.com/jYbYnEiS    when I run the script which cron.d/doge runs, it pegs the cpu.  so, why isn't cron running the script?
[14:43] <llutz> vbox can boot from iso
[14:44] <Ilmen> MonkeyDust: I'll try this, thanks :)
[14:44] <unicornjedi> hello, does anyone here use joomla?
[14:44] <llutz> [[thufir]]: the line-start of your doge-file is malformed
[14:44] <trijntje> !anyone
[14:44] <[[thufir]]> bekks: http://pastebin.com/jYbYnEiS
[14:45] <[[thufir]]> llutz: thax, I'll check again.
[14:45] <llutz> [[thufir]]: */10 * * * *  foo                       to run it every 10 minutes
[14:45] <unicornjedi> i have a problem with Joomla, I can't get the right write permissions for the /var/www/logs ans /var/www/tmp directory
[14:46] <Ilmen> MonkeyDust: I get the following reply: "There is only one alternative in link group default.plymouth (providing /lib/plymouth/themes/default.plymouth): /lib/plymouth/themes/ubuntu-logo/ubuntu-logo.plymouth   Nothing to configure."
[14:47] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, i can help with permissions and webservices but I never used Joomla. Do you know how to use the linux shell to enter in commands?
[14:47] <MonkeyDust> Ilmen  then i don't know
[14:47] <[[thufir]]> llutz: thx
[14:47] <unicornjedi> ShadowE989, yes i know how to get around in the terminal
[14:48] <unicornjedi> ShadowE989, Can we join #Joomla to talk?
[14:48] <Ilmen> Somebody recommend to run "sudo apt-get install plymouth-theme-ubuntu-logo";  I'll try this %)
[14:48] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, you've tried "chmod 755" etc first? or do you need help with that? I'm not sure of your skill level, sorry if its a odd question. =)
[14:49] <unicornjedi> ShadowE989, okay hold on
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> Ilmen  let me know if it did the job
[14:49] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, oh wait don't do anything yet I was just inquiring if you've tried.
[14:49] <Ilmen> MonkeyDust: ok
[14:50] <unicornjedi> ShadowE989, i haven't changed the permissions like that, i've just been changing the ownership of the file so far. www-data worked for all of my other folders
[14:51] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, if its not on a production server you can try: "chmod 755 /var/www/logs && chmod 755 /var/www/tmp" (remove the quotes)
[14:52] <alkamid> willbradley, I changed to unity2d and it works fine now
[14:52] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, actually add a -R flag "chmod -R 755 /var/www/logs && chmod -R 755 /var/www/tmp" (remove the quotes)
[14:52] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, so its recursive.
[14:52] <unicornjedi> ShadowE989, okay. what does 755 mean?
[14:53] <theadmin> unicornjedi: 7 = full access, 5 = read+executa
[14:53] <theadmin> unicornjedi: Full access for the owner, read/exec for the group and everyone else.
[14:53] <unicornjedi> theadmin, I don't think thats safe for my live site
[14:53] <theadmin> unicornjedi: Valid point.
[14:54] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, yeah thats why i said if its not on a production server. =)
[14:54] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, development server for debugging only otherwise that might cause security issues.
[14:54] <Ilmen> MonkeyDust: well, it didn't work; I'll ask in #kubuntu, I may get more information there. Thanks anyway :)
[14:55] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, I'd recommend having a dev server for this sort of stuff so theres no risk, once you have it figured out you can push it up to your production server.
[14:55] <unicornjedi> ShadowE989, my site is offline right now. so I can go crazy with it now
[14:56] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, ok then if u want to, this should get it working then u can tweak the permissions.
[14:56] <nik22> hello, i am a new user and i have some questions. is there somebody who has spare time to help me?
[14:56] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, "chmod -R 766 /var/www/logs && chmod -R 766 /var/www/tmp"
[14:56] <theadmin> nik22: Ask away.
[14:56] <[[thufir]]> llutz: I set it as so:     http://pastebin.com/RfNihFYV  and am still waiting for it to run.
[14:57] <nik22> can i put the laucher bar down like windows 7?
[14:57] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, then see if your permission issue is solved then u can remove them.
[14:57] <theadmin> nik22: Not in Unity, no
[14:57] <Dynamicwork> nik22: Absolutly not
[14:57] <unicornjedi> ShadowE989, once I do that how do I check the permissions of the folders afterwards?
[14:57] <theadmin> nik22: You can use an alternative desktop, though. Kubuntu feels a lot like Windows 7 in many ways.
[14:58] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, what I do is 'ls -alh ./'
[14:58] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, list "all, list format, human friendly sizes"
[14:58] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, it will have permissions on the list
[14:58] <nik22> ok next question, what is the keyboard shortcut for language change?
[14:59] <unicornjedi> ShadowE989, drwxr-xr-x  2 unicornjedi unicornjedi
[14:59] <theadmin> nik22: You can configure that in Settings -> Keyboard Layout -> Options. I think the default is Alt+Shift, but I am not sure.
[14:59] <theadmin> ShadowE989: -l is not "list format" it's "long"
[14:59] <theadmin> Just saying
[14:59] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, ok see how it has 10 characters there where it has the 'drwx-etc'
[14:59] <unicornjedi> ShadowE989, :p intrepret pwease
[15:00] <ShadowE989> theadmin, hehe
[15:00] <unicornjedi> ShadowE989, yessir
[15:00] <nik22> super+space is the default
[15:00] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, ignore the d and notice there is 3 groups of 3 characters, rwx / r-x / r-x
[15:01] <nik22> i found it in text entry options
[15:01] <theadmin> nik22: Ah, it is in 13.10, indeed. I assumed you were running 12.04.
[15:01] <theadmin> Guess I should have asked
[15:01] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, each group of 3 means the permissions for owner, group, everyone
[15:02] <[[thufir]]> I thought that I fixed this cron job:  http://pastebin.com/RfNihFYV   but it doesn't seem to run.     can I check a log to see error messages, maybe?
[15:02] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, so its set to owner = read, write, execute / group = read execute / everyone = read, execute
[15:02] <hitsujiTMO> !manual | unicornjedi seems you might be in need of this. much of the console basics are covered in this
[15:02] <ShadowE989> hitsujiTMO, i agree
[15:03] <unicornjedi> ShadowE989, okayyy, i'll check the manual. reading is such a boreee
[15:03] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, brushing up wont hurt if you're running a server, but run the command I gave you before but with 766 instead of 755. like...
[15:04] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, "chmod -R 766 /var/www/logs && chmod -R 766 /var/www/tmp"
[15:04] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, its the 'nuke it from orbit approach but it will tell you if you're having permission issues or not.
[15:05] <unicornjedi> ShadowE989, okay let me try it real quick
[15:05] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, and it should get your site back online if the permissions are indeed the issue.
[15:05] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, fingers crossed =)
[15:07] <sneeky> hmm
[15:07] <unicornjedi> ShadowE989, thanks :)    what is the chmod permission to change the folder to a safer state?
[15:08] <unicornjedi> ShadowE989, still not working
[15:09] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, can you pastebin your log?
[15:09] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, make sure theres no sensitive information though.
[15:09] <unicornjedi> unicornjedi@swagnificient:/var/www/beautiful.silksky.com$ sudo chmod -R 766 logs && sudo chmod -R 766 tmp
[15:09] <unicornjedi> [sudo] password for unicornjedi:
[15:10] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, ahh spam bot probably got ya, post in paste.ubuntu.com
[15:10] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, then paste the link here.
[15:11] <[[thufir]]> I thought that I fixed this cron job:  http://pastebin.com/RfNihFYV   but it doesn't seem to run.     can I check a log to see error messages, maybe?
[15:12] <unicornjedi> can you read this
[15:14] <pfifo> [[thufir]]: cron usually sends mail to root regarding errors and script output
[15:14] <[[thufir]]> pfifo: ah, I was just about to ask how to check something like that :)
[15:15] <kkq> has anyone been able to configure HPLIP for HP lpt printer (ubuntu 12.04  server)?
[15:15] <llrealmanll> how can i force install with apt using higher version of selected. http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3827172
[15:15] <llrealmanll> i need to install 5.4.23
[15:15] <llrealmanll> but idont know why 5.4.6 is selected by default
[15:16] <pfifo> llrealmanll: by default apt will use the latest version available in the repos
[15:16] <theadmin> llrealmanll: sudo apt-get install packagename
[15:16] <theadmin> llrealmanll: That will update the individual package to the latest version.
[15:17] <llrealmanll> pfifo: you see it's not latest version
[15:17] <[[thufir]]> there was an e-mail to root that /etc/cron.daily/apt had been terminated (by me) on 20 dec, but nothing new.  Any other reasons why this cron:  http://pastebin.com/RfNihFYV  isn't working?  or, how to test it?
[15:17] <theadmin> [[thufir]]: cron, for one, can't run apps that are interactive, say those that expect console input. Is that the case?
[15:18] <llrealmanll> theadmin: ty solved :D
[15:18] <hkr> So, What IRC Client is the best for buntu?
[15:19] <pfifo> hkr: irssi
[15:19] <theadmin> hkr: There's no "best', everyone has their own tastes. irssi and xchat seem popular.
[15:19] <[[thufir]]> theadmin: not really, when I execute that script by typing in its path, it executes without further user input...I don't quite follow your question.  When the script executes, it pegs the cpu.  (bitcoin type mining)
[15:19] <tutak> Hello guys
[15:19] <hkr> Okay. Let me try that out. I really like XChat :D
[15:19] <[[thufir]]> hkr: I like pidgin
[15:19] <theadmin> [[thufir]]: Ah, alright.
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> hkr  try a few, then decide which you  like more
[15:19] <SrRaven> Hi, I have a macbook pro taht already has windows on it via dual boot, want to add linux to this, any idea how ?
[15:19] <hkr> Ah, Irssi is CLI based.
[15:19] <hkr> Cool.
[15:19] <[[thufir]]> theadmin: I was thinking, maybe have the script put a log somewhere saying "ok, I'm running."?
[15:20] <Wug> theadmin: I don't suppose you know off the top of your head if hexchat is available for ubuntu?
[15:20] <maxvi> Hi everyone! the download checkbox was hide in transmission and I can't exclude some files from download...
[15:20] <theadmin> Wug: Ain't, at least not in 12.04 default repos.
[15:20] <pfifo> !info hexchat | wug
[15:20] <theadmin> Well, there.
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> maxvi  not sure if transmission can do it, but deluge can
[15:21] <Wug> there's a small difference between being in the repos and being available
[15:21] <theadmin> Wug: Oh, if that's what you mean, sure. They have a PPA on their homepage.
[15:21] <theadmin> Wug: Just use that.
[15:21] <tutak> when i access a /Desktop/folder1 through terminal and then from there type cd /  and then tab instead of giving me possible names of the folders in folder1 it instead gives the names of the subfolders in Root
[15:21] <tutak> what am i doing wrong?
[15:21] <Wug> fyi, but if you have the blessing of choice, pick hexchat.
[15:22] <theadmin> tutak: Because / is the root directory. ~ is your home directory, which is where Desktop and stuff is.
[15:22] <maxvi> MonkeyDust: I did it earlier with other torrent files and it keep works for them... but not for this torrent file (
[15:22] <Wug> xchat has some outstanding security issues and has not been updated in years
[15:22] <pfifo> maxvi: what exactly is the problem?
[15:22] <theadmin> Wug: Ah. Well, I use Quassel myself.
[15:22] <hkr> Does Irssi use emacs style navigation ?
[15:22] <pfifo> hkr: no, but it probably can
[15:23] <Wug> hexchat is basically designed and marketed as having the same look and feel as xchat, which is why I like it
[15:23] <hkr> Hmm... I'm just learning the ropes of vim. I don't need emacs-ish IRCs yet :)
[15:23] <Wug> xchat's user interface is good
[15:23] <ice9> are there complete Unity themes?
[15:23] <tutak> true..
[15:23] <tutak> thanks
[15:23] <hkr> I love XChat. I use it now.
[15:23] <Wug> you'll love hexchat too
[15:23] <MonkeyDust> hkr  if you use irssi in combination with screen, you can easily logout without losing the IRC session
[15:23] <ice9> that modifies the menu bar and windows decoration
[15:23] <Wug> they behave the same way
[15:24] <hkr> Might switch to Irssi. Can't say no to CLI.
[15:24] <Wug> hexchat evolved from xchat-wdk which was basically just an open source xchat clone designed to run on windows
[15:24] <Wug> (unlike the "official" version of xchat on windows, which costs $15 or something)
[15:25] <theadmin> Wug: (which is honestly rather ridiculous... That's against the open-source ideals)
[15:25] <maxvi> pfifo: http://smages.com/images/screenlcl.png there are no download checkboxes... to exclude some files from download also there are no priority select ...
[15:25] <Wug> I agree. I used the free trial for a month before it started demanding money, and then bounced between various clones for a while before settling on hexchat, which performs the best and has the best future.
[15:25] <pfifo> its perfectly acceptable for something to be open source and cost money
[15:26] <Wug> but lack of consistent updates is not doing xchat any good.
[15:26] <Okitain> theadmin: no, actually, it's perfectly acceptable to give source to those who purchase your software.
[15:26] <pfifo> maxvi: make the window bigger?
[15:26] <Okitain> (and then they can share the source with whoever else)
[15:26] <Wug> there are a few password disclosure bugs, in which xchat will just beam your passwords out to random servers on connection
[15:27] <theadmin> Okitain: Ah, okay. Well. Commercial open-source is rare nowadays though. Anyways, I'm headed off.
[15:27] <maxvi> pfifo: oh.... sorry this is my fake... thanks!
[15:27] <Okitain> theadmin: well, Stallman did it.
[15:28] <Okitain> Has anyone used Windows Quassel?
[15:32] <[[thufir]]> ok, I put my minerd cron job into gnome-schedule and it works!  good.  but, where does gnome-schedule save its cron jobs to?  I want to look at the syntax.  the man page just says it uses anacron.
[15:33] <bekks> [[thufir]]: crontab -l
[15:37] <ztane> MonkeyDust: yah, did so
[15:38] <ztane> hmm, before I had always installed konsole (preferred term emu) in my ubuntu/unity using apt-get install konsole, but does not work with saucy anymore,
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> ztane  ?
[15:39] <ztane> unmet dependencies after each other...
[15:39] <lotuspsychje> just letting you guys know ive installed a cool package to print photo's on a4: named photoprint
[15:39] <ztane> do I neeed to pull all of kdelibs by hand or what?
[15:39] <ztane>  konsole : Depends: kde-runtime but it is not going to be installed
[15:41] <[[thufir]]> bekks: thanks.
[15:41] <ztane> i just want konsole ?D
[15:41] <ztane> :DD
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> ztane  in a terminla, type    apt-cache depends konsole    is it useful?
[15:47] <mvk> i would like to change my /opt directory, and put it on a external storage drive
[15:47] <mvk> but my fstab is empty, well it says: # UNCONFIGURED FSTAB FOR BASE SYSTEM
[15:47] <ztane> MonkeyDust: ah just needed to run apt-get update
[15:48] <mvk> how do i move my fstab?
[15:48] <Balzy> hello! I've just installed ati proprietary drivers on kubuntu 13.10, everything went good but after reboot I get a blank screen. For instance, it's not completely black, things appear in the "background" but there is no backlight (it's a notebook)
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> !fstab | mvk
[15:48] <mvk> i know what fstab is
[15:48] <ztane> mvk: you dont
[15:49] <mvk> but can i simply add one mountpoint to it, for /opt
[15:49] <ztane> yes
[15:49] <mvk> or do i take over alle existing mountpoints (as shown by mtab) into it
[15:50] <ztane> just add a line for opt there
[15:51] <Balzy> anyone willing to help?
[15:51] <SrRaven> Hi, I have a macbook pro taht already has windows on it via dual boot, want to add linux to this, any idea how ?
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> Balzy: if you ask a question sure
[15:52] <mvk> ztane, ok thanks but the device is already mounted.. /dev/sdb1 /media/mvk/Kingston64 ext4 rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks2 0 0
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> !mac | SrRaven
[15:52] <Balzy> lotuspsychjeasked before, can I post it again?
[15:52] <mvk>  /opt has to become a directory on this, so i mkdir /opt on it
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> Balzy: you can re-ask your issue here (once in a while) sure
[15:52] <SrRaven> yes lotuspsychje I know that site, just that it isnt really all so helpful considering I have to haev triple boot in the end
[15:52] <SrRaven> the apge doesnt cover taht
[15:52] <Balzy> lotuspsychje : hello! I've just installed ati proprietary drivers on kubuntu 13.10, everything went good but after reboot I get a blank screen. For instance, it's not completely black, things appear in the "background" but there is no backlight (it's a notebook)
[15:53] <usr> hm
[15:53] <wIzjIn> SrRaven what bootloader your current setup uses ?
[15:53] <SrRaven> the normal boot camp one
[15:54] <wIzjIn> i mean, mac or windows one
[15:54] <SrRaven> ?!
[15:54] <wIzjIn> at dual boot
[15:54] <SrRaven> I dont know
[15:54] <SrRaven> im not even sure i understand your question
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> Balzy: default installed grafix drivers didnt work for you?
[15:54] <wIzjIn> like when you choose one of the oses at start up
[15:54] <SrRaven> yes?
[15:54] <wIzjIn> which Os-boot-loader is that
[15:55] <mvk> ztane, do you understand what i mean?
[15:55] <SrRaven> like I said, the standard boot camp one
[15:55] <wIzjIn> like mac one or windows
[15:55] <SrRaven> no idea what its called
[15:55] <Balzy> lotuspsychje they worked but had some energy consumption and heating issues
[15:55] <wIzjIn> ok right
[15:55] <wIzjIn> so now do you have enough empty space on ur hdd ?
[15:55] <SrRaven> im waiting for my ubuntu download to finish
[15:56] <SrRaven> so I can take 50 gb of my mac osx partition
[15:56] <SrRaven> whcih im doing using the hard drive tool from mac itself
[15:56] <wIzjIn> right
[15:56] <SrRaven> eta 3 mins + partitioning time
[15:56] <lotuspsychje> Balzy: maybe try a previous kernel in grub (recoverymode) and failsafeX
[15:56] <wIzjIn> so when you install ubuntu, its bootloader grub should automatically detect your currently installed OSes
[15:57] <SrRaven> I hope so otherwise im screwed lol
[15:57] <wIzjIn> no no
[15:57] <wIzjIn> it will
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> SrRaven  backup first, if needed
[15:57] <SrRaven> using 12.10 btw
[15:57] <wIzjIn> but i recommend you use an extra swap partition
[15:57] <wIzjIn> other then the one you install ubuntu on
[15:57] <SrRaven> the newest version of ubuntu somehow doesnt have much tutorial wise in the mac section
[15:58] <wIzjIn> and in case
[15:58] <wIzjIn> have you ever used ubuntu before ?
[15:58] <SrRaven> theres nothing of importance on the macbook
[15:58] <SrRaven> yeah
[15:58] <SrRaven> been a while but yes
[15:58] <wIzjIn> so you should know the default software store
[15:58] <SrRaven> yeah
[15:58] <wIzjIn> from which you can download apps
[15:59] <Balzy> lotuspsychje the safe mode with the bash console works properly, I can anything from there but I have no idea about fixing the issue when running the default kde session, any idea?
[15:59] <wIzjIn> so in case, you install ubuntu, and it doesn't happen to detect or old OSes
[15:59] <wIzjIn> note this instruction down
[15:59] <SrRaven> im on my desktop atm
[15:59] <SrRaven> so i wont go
[16:00] <wIzjIn> There is a utility out there called "Boot-Repair" which you can install through terminal via simple command
[16:00] <wIzjIn> incase if grub overrides or old OSes
[16:00] <wIzjIn> use it from the newly installed ubuntu
[16:00] <bibi234> I'd like to install ubuntu on a computer, how can I know if I need 32 bits or 64 bits, my CPU is "Intel Pentium Dual Core G2020."
[16:00] <wIzjIn> it has an option "quick fix" a one-clicker.. it will fix it for sure
[16:00] <wIzjIn> but i am sure ubuntu will detect your old OSes
[16:01] <SrRaven> partitioning now
[16:01] <wIzjIn> A simple google will let you to "boot-repair" install guide...
[16:01] <SrRaven> well removing 50 gb from the mac partitons, im resizing more or less
[16:01] <wIzjIn> keep 50 gb space unpartitioned
[16:01] <wIzjIn> make 5 gb swap partition
[16:02] <wIzjIn> and 45 gb ext4
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> Balzy: not sure mate, maybe the #kubuntu guys might know?
[16:02] <SrRaven> ehh wIzjIn thats complicated now
[16:02] <wIzjIn> that ext4 partition you ll have to use as mount point
[16:02] <wIzjIn> whats so complicated ?
[16:03] <wIzjIn> whats so complicated ?
[16:03] <SrRaven> that the partitioning tool of mac doesnt offer me the 45 gb part
[16:03] <SrRaven> eh ext4
[16:03] <wIzjIn> dont worry abt that now
[16:03] <SrRaven> I can either format in fat or exfat or leave it empty
[16:03] <SrRaven> so...
[16:03] <wIzjIn> keep it unpartitoned
[16:03] <SrRaven> should I just "clear" 100~ ?
[16:04] <wIzjIn> all these you have to do is while installing ubuntu
[16:04] <ehdi> Does linux have "Rights Management Services" on Linux --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Directory_Rights_Management_Services
[16:04] <Balzy> lotuspsychje okay I'll try to ask there, thanks!
[16:04] <wIzjIn> right now, you just need certain amount of empty space
[16:04] <wIzjIn> be it 50 or 100 gigs
[16:04] <SrRaven> alright resizing again :P
[16:04] <SrRaven> I only need to do some homework on it lol
[16:04] <SrRaven> I rather not use the software on windows :/
[16:05] <Jordan_U> SrRaven: You can resize partitions from within Ubuntu's installer.
[16:06] <SrRaven> done
[16:06] <SrRaven> rebooting into the usb ubuntu (hopefully)
[16:06] <Jordan_U> SrRaven: Do *not* use boot camp, it creats an ugly "hybrid MBR".
[16:07] <SrRaven> what u mean
[16:07] <wIzjIn> Jordan_U, he is largely unaware..
[16:07] <SrRaven> alright it isnt booting into live ubuntu
[16:08] <wIzjIn> are you sure you have usb-boot enabled from Bios ? set it as first priority ?
[16:08] <SrRaven> no and no !
[16:09] <SrRaven> wait how th fuck do you enter one on a macbook
[16:09] <Jordan_U> SrRaven: To allow installation of Windows, Apple's boot camp creates an out-of-spec msdos label even though you have GPT. It's ugly and causes problems and is not needed if you're notbooting Windows.
[16:10] <Jordan_U> !language | SrRaven
[16:10] <SrRaven> sorry :/
[16:11] <wIzjIn> Jordan_U, will Grub detect older OSes in this case ?
[16:11] <Jordan_U> SrRaven: What iso did you use to create the bootable USB, and what tool?
[16:12] <SrRaven> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro8-2/Quantal
[16:12] <SrRaven> used the tool in the boot section
[16:12] <Jordan_U> wIzjIn: Older? In what case?
[16:12] <wIzjIn> in SrRaven
[16:12] <wIzjIn> 's case
[16:14] <Jordan_U> wIzjIn: What do you mean by "older"?
[16:14] <wIzjIn> previously installed
[16:14] <Jordan_U> wIzjIn: Yes, it will.
[16:15] <wIzjIn> so SrRaven your good to go
[16:15] <SrRaven> as soon as I get it to boot
[16:15] <SrRaven> Im newschool...I dont have a cdr blank
[16:15] <Jordan_U> SrRaven: I asked two questions, you only answered one.
[16:15] <SrRaven> whats the second one
[16:16] <SrRaven> I answered one previously, I used the 12.10 version
[16:16] <SrRaven> like the tutorial suggests (its for 12.10) and the tool I used (as said before) was the one in the boot section
[16:16] <SrRaven> but the unetbootin doesnt seem to work
[16:17] <wIzjIn> it may be cause of some faulty setting in BIOS
[16:17] <SrRaven> ...and how would I enter a mac bios?
[16:17] <SrRaven> bios is windows
[16:17] <wIzjIn> generally, you can go there by pressing "Del" or "F2" while your computer is starting(booting)..
[16:17] <wIzjIn> there must be something similar in mac
[16:18] <hassen_> does formatting the HDD, or 1/some of its partitions many times harm it given a period of time?(e.g to install an OS)
[16:19] <Jordan_U> SrRaven: Try Unetbootin and the normal (*not "+mac") Ubuntu 13.10 iso.
[16:19] <SrRaven> but the tutorial is a dozen times more confusing
[16:21] <pfifo> hassen_: no
[16:21] <oriez> I've got an SD card that I can't get work after formating, I tried GParted but when i'm deleting everything and then creating a full disk Fat32 partiton it doesn't seem to detect the partition in gparted!!!!!! maybe I massed up partitions... so I tried deleting everything - MBR too (dd etc.)
[16:21] <oriez> whats the problem?
[16:21] <Jordan_U> hassen_: No more than any other operation that writes an equivalent amount of data.
[16:22] <oriez> i'm stuck with /dev/loop0 when mounting...
[16:23] <bekks> oriez: how are you mounting then? /dev/loop0 isntr required for mounting a SD card.
[16:23] <oriez> idk, it automount loop0
[16:24] <oriez> bekks, i get -  /dev/loop0                    3.4G  4.1k  3.4G
[16:24] <bekks> oriez: Where do you get that?
[16:24] <oriez> but the drive is 16GB
[16:24] <Jordan_U> oriez: Please pastebin the output of "losetup" "sudo parted -l" and "mount".
[16:24] <oriez> df -H
[16:25] <SrRaven> sorry my internet died
[16:25] <SrRaven> lost the last 6 mins
[16:25] <SrRaven> Jordan_U you said I should get 13.10, it isnt listed in the macbook pro wiki page, still go ahead or not?
[16:26] <munz> SrRaven: im running 13.10 on a 5.5 macbook pro
[16:26] <SrRaven> awesome
[16:26] <munz> no bios in macs, uefi sorta
[16:26] <SrRaven> but thats pre-intel isnt it
[16:26] <Calinou> HELp
[16:27] <Calinou> HOW DO I ADD MYSELF TO SUDOERS FILE
[16:27] <munz> no dual core
[16:27] <Calinou> I REMOVED THE ONLY SUDOER
[16:27] <munz> nvidia vid
[16:27] <SrRaven> hehe
[16:27] <bekks> Calinou: We can read lowercase too.
[16:27] <munz> http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1533?viewlocale=de_de
[16:27] <munz> boot keys there
[16:27] <Jordan_U> SrRaven: My guess is that more will work out of the box, though you may have a harder time finding instructions for fixing the things that don't. More importantly, for a USB you don't want the +mac iso.
[16:27] <munz> hold c during startup for cd or usb
[16:27] <pfifo> Calinou: USE A CHROOT
[16:28] <Calinou> I need something simple
[16:28] <SrRaven> thanks both of you
[16:28] <Jordan_U> SrRaven: Pre-intel they were powerbooks.
[16:28] <pfifo> Calinou: format and reinstall
[16:28] <SrRaven> formatting my usb stick first
[16:28] <Calinou> that's simpler, but that requires ~1 hour
[16:28] <bekks> Calinou: Then use a chroot.
[16:29] <Calinou> how? what?
[16:29] <bekks> !chroot | Calinou
[16:29] <munz> as far as installing i agree, do not use bootcamp let grub/ubuntu handle it
[16:29] <Calinou> I can't use any sudo commands
[16:29] <bekks> Calinou: Use a livecd and a chroot.
[16:29] <pfifo> Calinou: you could also boot into recovery mode, that drops you into a root shell without asking for a password, then add a user to the admin group or edit sudoers as needed
[16:30] <SrRaven> yeah be patient with me folks, still formatting :/
[16:30] <oriez> Jordan_U - http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=RWDzUVBu
[16:30] <nik22> hello, how can i create a bootable usb in ubuntu? i used pendrive in windows to do this job
[16:31] <Calinou> pfifo, what file do I need to edit then
[16:31] <SrRaven> should i format the stick to ms-dos or something?
[16:31] <munz> SrRaven: if your fans dont work after install check this http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/11/ppa-install-fan-control-ubuntu-macbook/
[16:31] <SrRaven> ...lol
[16:32] <SrRaven> that might get hot :P
[16:32] <Jordan_U> SrRaven: No, GPT is ideal. I'm not sure if unetbootin will set things up properly for EFI though.
[16:32] <SrRaven> GPT ?
[16:33] <Jordan_U> SrRaven: GUID Partition Table.
[16:33] <bekks> Calinou: the same you deleted yourself from. /etc/sudoers
[16:33] <Calinou> I used the GUI Stuff
[16:33] <Calinou> so I have no idea
[16:34] <SrRaven> Jordan_U how would I format it that way, windows doesnt offer me that
[16:35] <munz> SrRaven: also by default to use the f1, f2, f3, etc you have to press fn+f1 the details and workaround can be found here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppleKeyboard
[16:35] <oriez> Jordan_U & bekks - the thing is that GParted can format the drive but can't detect the filesystem which Gparted made!! tried both Ext(2,3,4) and FAT32
[16:35] <Jordan_U> SrRaven: So you currently have Windows and OSX installed on this Macbook?
[16:35] <SrRaven> yes
[16:35] <SrRaven> and im using windows (my desktop PC) to write this
[16:36] <Jordan_U> oriez: Just "mount".
[16:37] <teenox> Anyone have an idea on how to fix this? Lubuntu installed on remote VPS running Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit, using tightvnc to VNC to Lubuntu. Chromium does not work. Same install on Ubuntu 10.04 64 bit VPS and Chromium works perfectly.
[16:37] <oriez> it says "created successfully" but then refreshed and nothing detectable
[16:37] <oriez> Jordan_U , I did
[16:37] <bekks> oriez: Then create the partitions using gparted, and create the filesystems using mkfs
[16:38] <Jordan_U> oriez: No, you posted the output of "mount /dev/sdc1".
[16:38] <oriez> Jordan_U , but i get the loop and the error that was in pastebin
[16:38] <SrRaven> seems to boot now
[16:38] <SrRaven> as I dont see anything
[16:39] <SrRaven> its white screen'ing
[16:40] <oriez> Jordan_U , http://pastebin.com/PCN2ZpBa - you mean this?
[16:40] <[[thufir]]> what is the syntax error with this cron job?  http://pastebin.com/LqygtrDs     seems pretty straightforward...
[16:41] <SrRaven> it wont boot :/
[16:41] <oriez> Jordan_U , how do you create a partiton with no fs.... unformatted option??
[16:42] <oriez> or cleared?
[16:42] <SrRaven> ok now it did
[16:43] <munz> :)
[16:43] <SrRaven> so now, should I use the option "add ubuntu next to mac osx" or use the "something else" option?
[16:43] <SrRaven> considering I already have a dual boot windows thing
[16:44] <munz> does it see the windows side?
[16:44] <SrRaven> where
[16:45] <SrRaven> it only says "theres already mac osx"
[16:45] <munz> the installer, it only gives an option for the osx not windows too?
[16:45] <SrRaven> yes
[16:46] <Calinou> the graphical app that manages accounts still sucks, because it doesn't give sudo to people clearly marked as administrator
[16:46] <Calinou> but in any distro, giving someone sudo is a pain
[16:46] <oriez> Jordan_U , http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=jUGy01Dv - maybe that can lead to something??
[16:46] <munz> sounds like the bootcamped windows will fall under the mac osx boot, Jordan_U u agree?
[16:46] <bekks> Calinou: because being administrator is technically different from having sudo privileges.
[16:46] <munz> sooo... i would do the along side osx, not sure what other choice we have
[16:46] <munz> sounds correct
[16:46] <bekks> Calinou: It is a oneline to give sudo to someone. Add the user to the group wheel.
[16:47] <bekks> Calinou: No need to even touch /etc/sudoers.
[16:47] <SrRaven> ok
[16:47] <Calinou> wheel?
[16:47] <SrRaven> it even already has macbook keyboard as options,neat
[16:47] <Calinou> why not something like "sudo"?
[16:47] <sebsebseb> hi
[16:47] <munz> sweet
[16:47] <bekks> Calinou: Because its wheel.
[16:48] <Calinou> anyway I would have to do that from a live USB
[16:48] <teenox> anyone know why chromium would work on ubuntu server 10.04 but not 12.04? Installed lubuntu desktop and accessing remotely with vnc
[16:48] <bekks> Calinou: you could already have done it successfully.
[16:49] <wIzjIn> SrRaven how are you faring ?
[16:49] <SrRaven> its installing
[16:51] <induz> How can I get a driver for Lexmark printer[OEM does not have for ubuntu]
[16:51] <induz> using Ubuntu 10
[16:52] <induz> Printer is not getting connected to ubuntu
[16:52] <induz> need help
[16:52] <oriez> Jordan_U , i did mkfs -T vfat /dev/****  and still im stuck with the 3.4G empty loop and gpart doesn't detect the filesystem - i got this when doing mkfs: Warning: the fs_type vfat is not defined in mke2fs.conf
[16:52] <oriez> warning: Unable to get device geometry for /dev/sdc1
[16:52] <oriez> Discarding device blocks: failed - Invalid argument
[16:52] <profligacy> Which ubuntu should I get? My friend sad that he would give me the latest UBunutu CD and install it for me for $50. Is the installation complicated and how much does the Ubuntu CD usually go for?
[16:52] <SrRaven> rebooting
[16:52] <SrRaven> ...wtf
[16:52] <SrRaven> ubuntu is free man!
[16:53] <bekks> oriez: What did you do in fact? /dev/**** is an invalid device.
[16:53] <induz> yes its free
[16:53] <Calinou> induz, 10.04 and 10.10 aren't supported anymore in their Desktop forms
[16:53] <Calinou> anyway, Lexmark printer is known for being quite bad
[16:53] <induz> Cal
[16:53] <munz> yay!
[16:53] <SrRaven> now its stuck at * Asking all remaining processes to terminate...
[16:53] <oriez> bekks, I meant /dev/sdc1
[16:53] <induz> Calinow  how to make it working
[16:54] <munz> for the reboot?
[16:54] <bekks> induz: Do you use an ubuntu 10 desktop?
[16:54] <induz> usding 10.4 Lucid
[16:54] <induz> yes
[16:54] <bekks> induz: thats not supported anymore.
[16:54] <SrRaven> still stuck...should I do a hard power off?
[16:54] <induz> what do u mean by not supported
[16:54] <munz> yes
[16:55] <induz> do i have to buy new
[16:55] <induz> bekks
[16:55] <SrRaven> alright, it sees my windows and mac
[16:55] <SrRaven> havent bothered to test it yet though
[16:55] <munz> cool :)
[16:56] <SrRaven> The disk drive for /dev/mapper/cryptswap isnt available yet
[16:56] <SrRaven> that normal?
[16:56] <induz> bekks
[16:56] <dufa> SrRaven: at boot it says that to me often, just wait a while
[16:57] <dufa> havent looked into it more, though
[16:57] <induz> what version of ubuntu r we running now[lates]
[16:57] <munz> ohhh you do encrypted
[16:57] <munz> ?
[16:57] <SrRaven> sure why not
[16:57] <SrRaven> should I have ?
[16:57] <munz> :)
[16:57] <munz> its fine
[16:58] <munz> that is normal in my exp w/encrypted
[16:58] <induz> @bekks- what version
[16:58] <dufa> I do encrypted, it doesnt get in the way, so why not
[16:58] <compdoc> encrypted screws me up
[16:58] <induz> can i upgrade to the lates
[16:58] <munz> "/dev/mapper/cryptswap isnt available" yet that is
[16:59] <induz> i need this lexmark to work o my ubuntu
[16:59] <munz> the only issue is doing data recovery is more difficult
[16:59] <SrRaven> wifi doesnt work
[16:59] <munz> when you are asked to create your key/password... **remember it**
[17:00] <munz> what ver macbook?
[17:01] <SrRaven> 8.1
[17:02] <munz> can you plugin the ethernet for a few?
[17:03] <munz> then do: sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree
[17:03] <munz> should do the trick
[17:05] <SrRaven> thats what I tried but nope
[17:05] <bekks> induz: 12.04 is supported until 2017.
[17:06] <munz> can you do: lspci -nn
[17:06] <SrRaven> sure sec
[17:06] <SrRaven> doing thast power fan thing atm
[17:06] <munz> k
[17:07] <SrRaven> did it...where do I look
[17:07] <munz> did it give you any info?
[17:07] <SrRaven> loads
[17:07] <SrRaven> broadcom bcm 4331
[17:07] <SrRaven> thats the one I think
[17:07] <munz> look for network controller
[17:07] <munz> yes!
[17:09] <munz> ok did you already add sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mpodroid/mactel?
[17:10] <SrRaven> did now
[17:10] <munz> ok then sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer
[17:12] <SrRaven> downloading it
[17:12]  * SrRaven minimizes the unity bar
[17:12] <SrRaven> done
[17:12] <munz> modprobe -r b43 && modprobe b43
[17:13] <SrRaven> operation not permitted
[17:13] <SrRaven> sudo it ?
[17:13] <munz> errr sudo it
[17:13] <munz> yes
[17:13] <SrRaven> so just add teh sudo in the front ?
[17:13] <SrRaven> cause that doesnt work
[17:13] <munz> cool
[17:13] <munz> yes
[17:13] <SrRaven> "could not insert 'b43'
[17:15] <munz> ok, lets do sudo modprobe -r b43 then sudo modprobe b43
[17:15] <SrRaven> im not getting a confirmation or anything
[17:15] <SrRaven> but I did it
[17:16] <munz> ok, next we need to edit the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and add the line: blacklist ndiswrapper
[17:16] <SrRaven> wel l guess it logging into my wifi is some form of confirmation :P
[17:16] <munz> so gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[17:17] <munz> and add the line
[17:17] <SrRaven> wahh I did pico
[17:17] <SrRaven> cause I remembered that
[17:17] <munz> :)
[17:17] <SrRaven> but dont remember how to exit in pico
[17:17] <munz> nice
[17:17] <munz> ha, me either lol
[17:18] <dufa> SrRaven: SrRaven control + X
[17:19] <munz> after that we need to create or edit the file /etc/pm/config.d/modules and make sure the wireless modules (b43 and bcma) are blacklisted: SUSPEND_MODULES="b43 bcma"
[17:19] <munz> then reboot, and should be working, if not,
[17:20] <munz> sudo modprobe -r b43 then sudo modprobe b43 once more
[17:20] <SrRaven> sec sec
[17:20] <munz> k
[17:20] <petra> need help
[17:20] <SrRaven> so I I guess I dont have the file when I pico into the modules
[17:20] <bekks> !help | petra
[17:20] <SrRaven> simply copy/paste what you wrote?
[17:21] <petra> when I start my computer all i see is Petra@Petra:~$[] it dosen't shows any "gui"
[17:21] <munz> SrRaven: yes
[17:22] <SrRaven> done!
[17:22] <SrRaven> battery gives false informatio
[17:22] <SrRaven> idea?
[17:22] <TheLordOfTime> petra: when you "installed" what did you use, the minimal ISO, the server ISO, or the Ubuntu Desktop ISO?
[17:22] <SrRaven> it says 0:32 and 81%
[17:22] <SrRaven> os is that the time left to charge ?
[17:23] <petra> Ubuntu Desktop iso
[17:23]  * SrRaven gets chrome
[17:24] <munz> 0:32 is time left and 81% is remaining battery
[17:24] <SrRaven> thanks munz so far for everything :)
[17:24] <TheLordOfTime> petra: type in `sudo pidof lightdm` and see if it returns any output.  (You will have to enter your password there, but it won't display any characters or change from a blinking prompt, just type it in and hit enter)
[17:24] <munz> no prob, glad to help :)
[17:25] <FiremanEd> petra : What's the result of lsb_release -a
[17:25] <SrRaven> and holy noodles does the fan go nuts on linux
[17:25] <munz> ha
[17:25] <TheLordOfTime> petra: also do what FiremanEd asked too :)
[17:25] <Calinou> mac owner problems
[17:25] <induz> Lexmark is not supported on Ubuntu??
[17:25] <induz> is it/?
[17:25] <induz> new to Linux
[17:25] <munz> ummmmm tinnk next is find the type of vid card
[17:26] <munz> and get the right drivers working, without them the cpu is doing it and runs the temp up & fan
[17:26] <kaddi> hi guys. I just updated my laptop and now it no longer boots. The error messages are "usb 2-7: unable to read config index=0 descriptor/start -71" and  "usb 2-7: can't read configuration. error -71". Ubuntu is 13.10. How to fix?
[17:26] <induz> trying to connect lexmark 4530
[17:26] <SrRaven> yeah lets do it munz
[17:26] <induz> can not get it connected
[17:26] <SrRaven> question though, how do I add the now installed chrome to the ubuntu bar
[17:27] <munz> i *think* yours is nvidia too.... ummm upen it and r-click the icon on the bar
[17:28] <SrRaven> it isnt in my applications foilder
[17:28] <petra> trying it http://askubuntu.com/questions/320691/ubuntu-boots-on-terminal-only-how-do-i-recover-the-gui-desktop
[17:29] <munz> hmmmm.... im not sure, i dont run unity in my ubuntu installs, i go with gnome-shell
[17:29] <munz> it its installed it should be there tho
[17:29] <alex__> hello
[17:30] <SrRaven> ah had to run from terminal first
[17:30] <munz> ahhhh... :)
[17:30] <SrRaven> so,video card?
[17:31] <mike-irssi> SrRaven: alt+f2 type "chromium-browser" when it opens... on the side--right click, choose pin
[17:31] <munz> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[17:32] <txithihausen> Hi fellows, my Ubuntu 13.04 is presenting a strange behaviour. It cannot mount a dvd properly. Whenever I insert a disk, my ubuntu indicates that the disk is empty even this is not correct. Do you happen to know what's going on?
[17:33] <txithihausen> If I try to mount the disk manually (mount /dev/dvd /mnt/diretorioqualquer ) it raises the following message:
[17:33] <SrRaven> im not sure im a fan of the ubuntu launcher so far
[17:34] <txithihausen> mount: /dev/sr0: it is not possible to read the superblock
[17:34] <SrRaven> done munz
[17:34] <kaddii> hi. me again. ive realised that i can l log in on tty but display cant be opened.
[17:35] <munz> i hated it at first, then was told "try it for 2 wks and learn the hot keys" i gave it a shot and did likeit, but then i gave gnome3 the same shot and never looked back, and its great with multiple displays
[17:35] <kaddii> i think lightdm fails to start
[17:35] <munz> cool you should be good to go then, your vid should now be on the card instead of your cpu
[17:35] <SrRaven> yeah gnome looks nice
[17:35] <SrRaven> how do I change it ?
[17:35] <munz> i loe it
[17:35] <munz> *love
[17:36] <munz> well i had trouble with changing it in 13.10
[17:37] <roman> ирмп
[17:37] <munz> before that (12.10 and prior) it was sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[17:37] <mike-irssi> txithihausen: mount or sudo mount
[17:37] <txithihausen> sudo mount
[17:37] <alberto> irc:///oce@n
[17:37] <hkr> Should I upgrade to a 4th Gen Inter processor? I play some FPSs and open world games but i'm not a heavy gamer. I also dual boot linux. I currently have i3-3220.
[17:37] <mike-irssi> txithihausen: it might be in play, meaning fstab mounted it somewhere, did you check "mount"
[17:38] <munz> last time it broke my system, so i now ownload the gnomeubuntu fork of ubuntu
[17:38] <mike-irssi> or iso9660 something like that needs to specified as to filesytem designaton
[17:39] <SrRaven> buh
[17:39] <txithihausen> I also tried with iso9660 and not worked. Let me see the fstab
[17:39] <plr> hi guys
[17:39] <plr> can you tell me how to switch to another folder using terminal commands ?
[17:40] <SrRaven> alright,time to download the 4.2 gb software package I need
[17:40] <munz> :
[17:40] <munz> :)
[17:40] <dragonslay> plr: use cd
[17:41] <txithihausen> In the fstab there is nothing in regards to cdrom/dvd
[17:41] <BluesKaj> cd /pathtofolder
[17:41] <mike-irssi> txithihausen: did it suggest things such as fuser
[17:42] <pieces029> Hey everyone if I have my own domain name, and I want to setup a mail server for it what would you use?  I was looking at exim, does that seem appropriate?  I would basically like the mail to come in to my personal domain name and then go to my gmail.
[17:42] <kaddii> when i try to start lightdm it says job failed to start
[17:43] <kaddii> how do i get my gui back
[17:43] <SrRaven> so, how do I edit the grub settings?
[17:43] <SrRaven> to maybe also make it ab it more graphical
[17:45] <munz> change grub to change from unity to gnome3 or something else?
[17:45] <Calinou> grub can't be made "graphical"
[17:45] <munz> when you get to the login screen you can change the desktop session
[17:46] <munz> from unity to gnome
[17:46] <SrRaven> Nah I just mean that if I change my OS or my colleagues do at work, they have a more visible solution
[17:46] <SrRaven> also need to edit that linux isnt the first choice
[17:46] <munz> ahhhh
[17:46]  * SrRaven has really really old boss'
[17:47] <mike-irssi> SrRaven: grub-customizer you have to google the ppa
[17:47] <dragonslay> Calinou: we can use bg pics in grub
[17:47] <munz> you want do do terminal or install a gui app to do it?
[17:47] <munz> yes mike-irssi
[17:48] <munz> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:danielrichter2007/grub-customizer
[17:48] <SrRaven> that has time though
[17:48] <SrRaven> I dont need to give the laptop back to work till after winter break :o
[17:48] <Calinou> dragonslay, the whole thing is low resolution usually
[17:48] <Calinou> if you use a screen > 1024×768, it'll look blurred
[17:48] <Calinou> so, it doesn't look nice, and never tried to
[17:48] <munz> update then install grub-customizer
[17:49] <dragonslay> Calinou, we can do some resolution tweaking to improve it
[17:50] <Calinou> and it's painful to do... and never detected automatically
[17:51] <munz> gotta go afk for a bit SrRaven, good luck ill check back with you :)
[17:51] <havv> I'm trying to install the flashplayer plugin on Ubuntu 13.10 and it fails every time. I get: ContentTooShortError: retrieval incomplete: got only 2431 out of 14136904 bytes
[17:51] <SrRaven> thx for everything!
[17:52] <munz> no prob :)
[17:58] <Estragon> hi
[17:58] <Estragon> I have a single partition on which ubuntu is installed
[17:58] <Estragon> I would like to shrink it
[17:59] <yash069> Estragon: hello !
[17:59] <blacklist> test
[17:59] <Estragon> but gparted want it to be unmounted which obviously can't be done as it's the partition mounted on /
[17:59] <SrRaven> if my ubuntu locks itself due to afk-ness
[17:59] <SrRaven> do downloads continue?
[17:59] <DJones> Estragon: You'll need to use a livecd to change partitioning
[17:59] <Estragon> do I have to live usb or is there any other solution ?
[18:00] <Estragon> no way to do it by booting into a shell or something ?
[18:00] <yash069> Estragon: it is not possible to resize on live system unless u have LV
[18:00] <stefan__1> Hey! I have a soundcard which is plugged into my computer, but I cannot get any sound to come out of my headphones.
[18:01] <Estragon> what is LV ?
[18:01] <stefan__1> (And my headphones are plugged into the jacks)
[18:01] <DJones> Estragon: No, the partition needs to be unmounted, so the only way would be a livecd/usb
[18:01] <Estragon> okay, lets go for liveusb
[18:01] <Estragon> thanks :)
[18:03] <yash069> quit
[18:05] <stefan__1> I need help finding out why my sound card is not working
[18:06] <BluesKaj> stefan__1,
[18:06] <BluesKaj> in the terminal type ' alsamixer ', make sure the Master, PCM,  Line & CD are all unmuted ,by using the "M"key'  then turn those controls up to the max.
[18:06] <stefan__1> BluesKaj: and then?
[18:06] <fatjon> somebody use for some minits  & the clock onthe menu bar is diappear
[18:07] <fatjon> what can i do
[18:07] <fatjon> ?
[18:08] <yash069> fatjon: ??
[18:08] <BluesKaj> stefan__1, then play some music or media
[18:09] <fatjon> the computer clock is disappear. what to do for show it?
[18:09] <bekks> fatjon: Logout, log back in. It should be there again.
[18:11] <fatjon> bekks: i have to restart the computer?
[18:11] <bekks> fatjon: I said: logout, login. I did not say: reboot
[18:12] <fatjon> how can i log out?
[18:12] <mastro> Hi, I have this very old PC of a friend I'm putting Ubuntu 6.10 in it. Everything works but I need to install some stuff. I need internet and hoped to use an USB wireless stick I have which need rt2800usb driver. It's not there in Ubuntu 6.10. Any suggestion?
[18:13] <Calinou> we don't support 6.10 here
[18:13] <Calinou> since... 2008
[18:13] <ehnde> i installed the fglrx driver and i can no longer log into my desktop via GDM. what can i do?
[18:13] <ehnde> the desktop login screen comes up, but there is no way to log in...no authentication dialogue
[18:14] <mastro> Calinou, well modern ubuntu do not run on that PC
[18:14] <DJones> mastro: 6.10 isn't supported anymore, you'd be better using 12.04, if its a low powered machine, maybe look at Lubuntu/Xubuntu rather than Ubuntu
[18:14] <mastro> DJones, nope. too hard to use for him
[18:15] <Calinou> too hard?
[18:15] <andyfied> lubuntu hard?
[18:15] <yash069> mastro: put xbuntu
[18:15] <Calinou> lubuntu is lighter
[18:15] <knightshade> Hello
[18:15] <SchrodingersScat> knightshade: hello
[18:15] <mastro> DJones, plain Ubuntu 6.10 is just perfect for him. I'm not going to follow that suggestion and start over. If you don't support me here I'll go ask in some other random channel.
[18:16] <DJones> mastro: Its not just support, all of the repo's for 6.10 will have been removed, it'll have a lot of out of date software, thats why it doesn't get support anymore
[18:17] <mastro> DJones, that's not an issue
[18:17] <fatjon> ubntu dont show the computer clok on the top right of the schren.
[18:17] <vith> mastro: sure seems to be considering what you're asking for
[18:17] <mastro> DJones, http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Repository/SourcesList/EOL - and the PC will NOT have internet, not will need any update or software after I set it up.
[18:17] <mastro> DJones, I just need internet to set it up. nothing more.
[18:18] <DJones> fatjon: Open a terminal window and try "killall unity-panel-service" I had to use that the other day to get the clock back
[18:19] <DJones> mastro: ok, good luck, but as has been mentioned, its no longer a supported release and doesn't get support in the ubuntu channels
[18:21] <fatjon> DJones. thenks now it ok
[18:21] <mastro> DJones, I got it.
[18:22] <mastro> DJones, but I still hope someone to pop up and help
[18:22] <andyfied> mastro: i doubt anyone can remember how to support it
[18:23] <mastro> andyfied, actually I can compile the driver on my own... but I would have to install make headers etc... which bring back the issue: I need internet
[18:24] <mastro> andyfied, currently the only thing I tough about is to move the hard drive in some external USB (which I do not have for IDE drive) and chroot in the system
[18:25] <mastro> andyfied, or manually find every single .deb copy over to the USB stick and bring it in the PC both are far from good solutions to me
[18:25] <andyfied> the driver for that is here http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/rt2800usb
[18:25] <andyfied> if that helps
[18:26] <yash069> mastro: search for proprietary drivers for that usb wifi card on manufactures site
[18:26] <munz> SrRaven: yes they continue
[18:27] <DannyDoe> Fuck i hate Unity
[18:27] <bekks> DannyDoe: Watch your language please.
[18:27] <yash069> DannyDoe: language!
[18:28] <imghost> !language | dannydoe
[18:28] <MonkeyDust> DannyDoe  you're free to not use it
[18:28] <yash069> mastro: try out ##linux, C if someone could help u there
[18:29] <DannyDoe> i guess i am in the  wrong room
[18:29] <DannyDoe> why  are you all in there anyways????
[18:29] <such_coins> I'm on Xubuntu, and chrome is muted. Nothing else is. Can anyone help me?
[18:30] <pulsar78> you mad bro ;)
[18:30] <mastro> thanks yash069
[18:30] <knightshade> such_coins: have you tried turning it off and on again?
[18:30] <mastro> yash069, the drivers are there and they are not proprietary, they are open source which means I have to compile them
[18:30] <such_coins> knightshade, yes
[18:31] <such_coins> knightshade, I even restarted my computer
[18:31] <Calinou> mastro, they can be shipped pre-compiled
[18:31] <[[thufir]]> upstart says to make "odd" job run:   http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#if-job-is-not-currently-running  which sounds like what I want.  However, where do I define what "odd" is?  where to I put the job itself?
[18:32] <knightshade> such_coins: I'd use firefox :>
[18:32] <Calinou> knightshade, or chromium
[18:32] <Calinou> chrome is evil
[18:32] <such_coins> knightshade, lol that's always an option... but I need chrome for a web game I play
[18:32] <such_coins> I guess I could use chromium
[18:32] <pulsar78> Calinou: id love to hear why
[18:32] <DannyDoe> does Xubuntu have the privacy setting as unity dose?????
[18:32] <such_coins> Either way, I'd like to fix whatever this problem is
[18:33] <Calinou> DannyDoe, no
[18:33] <Calinou> it respects your privacy
[18:33] <havv> is there a known issue with the flash plugin on 13.10?
[18:33] <DannyDoe> That very good to know thanks
[18:34] <yash069> such_coins: go to chrome://plugins
[18:34] <such_coins> and?
[18:34] <yash069> disable the old flash version
[18:34] <such_coins> I should mention I've been using chrome for a week with no problems
[18:35] <such_coins> This just started yesterday
[18:35] <yash069> there should be two version of flash
[18:35] <yash069> disable the old one
[18:35] <ROPA> havv, noit sure if it's known or not, but 13.10 xubuntu and 13.10 gnome both share many issues, including the flash issue-instability.
[18:35] <such_coins> Only one
[18:35] <such_coins> there's only one
[18:35] <havv> ROPA: I kinda can't install it at all
[18:36] <knightshade> such_coins: any updates installed yesterday?
[18:36] <such_coins> no
[18:36] <ROPA> I have not had issues installing them, just instability when trying to use them. I had to give up on 13.10 xubuntu
[18:36] <yash069> such_coins: click on details
[18:37] <ROPA> havv I have not had issues installing them, just instability when trying to use them. I had to give up on 13.10 xubuntu
[18:37] <DannyDoe> test
[18:37] <havv> ROPA: did you go back to 13.04?
[18:37] <such_coins> yash069, I don't see anything
[18:37] <imghost> Havv, paste the the output of dpkg -l | grep flashplugin-installer
[18:38] <havv> nothing
[18:38] <havv> imghost: nothing
[18:39] <imghost> Havv, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[18:39] <ROPA> havv I have about 5 different systems and I'm running tests on 13.10 unity and 13.04 unity now............I ran 13.04 xubuntu for a long time and never had a serious issue with it.
[18:39] <DannyDoe> test
[18:40] <such_coins> since this just started yesterday, there's a possibility I just accidentally clicked something
[18:40] <such_coins> But I don't know what that might be
[18:40] <ROPA> 13.04 wil soon be unsupported, a damn shame since it's replacement runs so poorly.
[18:40] <such_coins> I wasn't messing with system settings or anyththing
[18:40] <imghost> Havv, ???
[18:41] <ROPA> havv 13.04 wil soon be unsupported, a damn shame since it's replacement runs so poorly.
[18:41] <havv> imghost: ii  flashplugin-installer                11.2.202.332ubuntu0.13.10.1              i386         Adobe Flash Player plugin installer
[18:41] <DannyDoe> test
[18:41] <havv> ROPA: I used Xubuntu for some time, but it was really unstable, I got crash reports all the time and I couldn't set Chromium as the default browser
[18:42] <imghost> Havv, check now open any flash site
[18:42] <ROPA> havv interesting, you mean 13.04 xubuntu had issues???
[18:43] <havv> imghost: same :#
[18:43] <knightshade> such_coins: have you tried if it works with a different game?
[18:43] <Calinou> ROPA, its replacement is fine
[18:43] <such_coins> I've tried html5 audio and flash audio on multiple sites
[18:43] <havv> ROPA: I tried both, I've uninstalled 13.10 yesterday
[18:44] <Calinou> 13.04 fanboys are not welcome here
[18:44] <Calinou> and enjoy your lack of support
[18:44] <imghost> Havv, please paste the full output of dpkg -l | grep flashplugin-installer paste it at paste.ubuntu.com
[18:45] <ROPA> calinou interesting, I though everyone had issues with 13,10 xubuntu!!! It's a disaster on my desktop and 2 laptops.
[18:45] <Calinou> I messed up a laptop running xubuntu today, but that's not due to 13.10
[18:45] <Calinou> can't have sudo on any of the accounts
[18:45] <havv> imghost: it's just the single line I've already posted
[18:46] <ROPA> calinou interesting, I though everyone had issues with 13,10 xubuntu!!! It's a disaster on my desktop and 2 laptops.
[18:47] <tpw_rules> hey all. i just upgraded my os from 12.04 to 12.10 and now grub has no entries in it except for memtest
[18:47] <imghost> Havv, then try to manually install it from adobe
[18:47] <ROPA> calinou 13.04 xubuntu runs circles around 13.10-sorry, I guess I'm a 13.04 fanboy-kill me now::>
[18:48] <Calinou> have fun being unsupported
[18:48] <havv> imghost: it didn't work, it was the first thing I tried
[18:48] <tpw_rules> so where did grub hide all my operating systems?
[18:48] <havv> imghost: @There isn’t a software package called “adobe-flashplugin” in your current software sources.@
[18:49] <ROPA> calinou I will, ty to you-I've never met anyone with 13,10 xubuntu that runs well....my nephew and brother report problems with 13.10 too.
[18:49] <havv> what why are the keys for " and @ have switched?!
[18:50] <tpw_rules> okay, i have a live cd, how do i make grub rebuild the boot menu list?
[18:50] <tpw_rules> it's version 1.98
[18:50] <havv> there is something wrong with my keyboard layout :/
[18:50] <havv> I think I'll go back to elementary OS it gave me the least amount of trouble
[18:51] <knightshade> such_coins: try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio#Resetting_User_Configuration
[18:52] <ROPA> havv if you have the computing power to run unity, try 13.10 unity-it runs on my desktop, I'm trying it in 2 laptops right after the holidays.
[18:52] <SmallJoker> Hello,
[18:52] <havv> ROPA: nah, I have a 5yo laptop
[18:53] <havv> ROPA: I've been using 13.10 Unity for 3 months but its sluggishness got the better of me
[18:53] <Hounddog> hi, i am running ubuntu 13.10 but having problems when shutting down/restarting it is just hangin there and i have to hard reset at some point... any pointers where i should get started checking on this?
[18:54] <ROPA> havv i noticed it seems to go to sleep quite often-no processor load, no harddrive activity, nothing being downloaded.
[18:54] <SmallJoker> I got a problem with the ndiswrapper app, it says "module missing". Can someone help me?
[18:55] <Jordan_U> SmallJoker: What wireless card do you have? NDISwrapper is almost never the best solution these days.
[18:55] <ROPA> hounddog can't help u with the failure to shut down.
[18:56] <SmallJoker> I've a USRobotics MaxG, number 5417
[18:56] <Guest49905> :)
[18:57] <Hounddog> well i will check and shutdown via terminal maybee i can get an answer there
[18:59] <pvl1> im getting an error from installing proprietary drivers. they return that they were not able to remove a dkms module. is it possible to list all dkms modules so i can remove them by hand
[19:00] <SmallJoker> Jordan_U: Can you help me with my problem?
[19:01] <knightshade> SmallJoker: could you pastebin the output of lspci?
[19:01] <SmallJoker> okay..please wait
[19:03] <SmallJoker> http://pastebin.com/BqS3Pcws
[19:04] <SmallJoker> It says "Broadcom" but it's written as "USRobotics" on the PCI card
[19:04] <evilbug> anyone elese having issues with skype on 13.04?
[19:06] <knightshade> SmallJoker: you need the b43 module
[19:07] <SmallJoker> a..what? sorry, I started ith ubuntu today
[19:07] <knightshade> SmallJoker: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[19:07] <ice9> what is the best sip application?
[19:07] <Guest47049> ma ta gaaaaaaaa
[19:08] <SmallJoker> Thank you imghost and knightshade, I'll try that :)
[19:08] <KI7MT> pvl1, dkms status should list the modules it has built. Have a look at man dlms for additional options.
[19:10] <Jumpie> hey guys...silly question, just setup 13.0 desktop and nowhere in the setup did it ask me for root password config...is there some default password?
[19:11] <Jumpie> ah, nm
[19:11] <mojtaba> Hi, I have a pdf file which I can not view with document viewer and it needs adobe. Does anybody know what should I do if I do not want to use adobe?
[19:11] <mojtaba> Is there any other alternative?
[19:14] <pvl1> KI7MT: thank you
[19:15] <imghost> mojtaba, you can use foxit reader
[19:16] <KI7MT> mojtaba, therea re allot of options, which is best is up to you. Just to name a few: ePDFViewer, MuPDF, Okular etc
[19:19] <pvl1> !pdf
[19:19] <kostkon> mojtaba, open it with adobe reader then
[19:20] <mojtaba> KI7MT: It seems the sender of the pdf file has embedded some files in the pdf file and okular can not show them. Do you know if the others are better or not? or do they work?
[19:20] <KI7MT> He said he doesn't want to install / use Adobe
[19:20] <kostkon> oh
[19:21] <imghost> mojtaba, try foxit reader
[19:21] <KI7MT> mojtaba, No I do not know, I use Adobe 99.9% of the time, I listed the others as you indicated you did not want to use it for whatever reason.
[19:24] <pvl1> doesnt chrome open pdf
[19:24] <kostkon> pvl1, even ffox does now
[19:24] <pvl1> figured thanks kostkon
[19:26] <[[thufir]]> I've read a good chunk of the upstart manual, but can't figure out where to put a stanza to start a job..?
[19:28] <ztane> what is the best way to now override 1 key in Unity/X11, I need to map capslock to <>, well sort of works using xmodmap, but resets whenever I change language from the toolbar..
[19:29] <ztane> toolbar = tray
[19:30] <ztane> /usr/share/X11/xkb/keycodes/evdev?
[19:32] <KI7MT> [[thufir]], the upstart cookbook walks through examples: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/   .. you could also use one of the existing upstart scripts and modify it or fondsomeone to write it for you.
[19:33] <KI7MT> find someone ..
[19:33] <[[thufir]]> see, where is an existing script, though?
[19:34] <[[thufir]]> I looked through that cookbook, I don't see where/which file to put any of that stuff.
[19:34] <KI7MT> [[thufir]], /etc/init.d   ... there's loads of them.
[19:35] <[[thufir]]> I was looking in /etc/init
[19:36] <KI7MT> [[thufir]], probable want to use something simple like, networking, apparmor, apache2 (if installed), ntp etc.
[19:36] <induz>    is there somethign like TweetDeck on Ubuntu
[19:36] <induz> live online moitter
[19:36] <[[thufir]]> I was looking at the networking
[19:37] <KI7MT> [[thufir]], find one that has at least four actions, start, stop, restart, status
[19:40] <Ekkonanto> Привет Всем!!!
[19:40] <KI7MT> !ru
[19:41] <Ekkonanto> Хорошо, спасибо!
[19:42] <verdes> I am using usb 3G modem to connect to internet. can I share the internet connection using laptop's wifi card?
[19:44] <andywilkie> hello , how do I upgrade to Ubuntu 14.04 from 13.10 please ?
[19:45] <ztane> andywilkie: easiest to wait 5 months and accept when asked ;)
[19:46] <[[thufir]]> KI7MT: I dunno, I was looking at whoopsie, but...
[19:46] <pdg1> The other day I was trying to fix my laptops wifi. and as far as I can tell, I'm doing everything correctly according to the help.ubuntu wifidocs
[19:46] <andywilkie> ztane :- ok thank you :o)
[19:47] <pdg1> 0b:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN [14e4:4311] (rev 01)
[19:47] <ztane> andywilkie: you can expect lots of problems before 2014-04
[19:48] <SrRaven> So, I want to install a software
[19:48] <SrRaven> software suggests it goes into /obt/Xilinx
[19:48] <SrRaven> it says "could not create destination path"
[19:48] <ztane> SrRaven: that would be /opt
[19:48] <SrRaven> yeah meant that
[19:48] <ztane> and it might be bc you do not have the /opt
[19:48] <ztane> at all
[19:48] <ztane> sudo mkdir /opt
[19:49] <SrRaven> yeah didnt open it with sudo
[19:49] <SrRaven> herp derp
[19:49] <ztane> aha
[19:49] <ztane> and I seem to have an opt on my empty install so that could  not be the fault eiter
[19:50] <ztane> *either
[19:50] <SrRaven> now the software wont install cause it says unable to open archive
[19:50] <SrRaven> poopi
[19:50] <andywilkie> ztane :- ok thank you , il have a play anyway :o)
[19:52] <no_gravity> Hello from Germany! tightvnc locked me out. Probably because of too many failed login attempts. I still can ssh into the box. Do you guys think there is a way to reset the tightvnc login-attempt-counter or something?
[19:53] <sgfg> can i run ubuntu on alienware?
[19:53] <MonkeyDust> what's alineware?
[19:53] <MonkeyDust> what's alienware?
[19:54] <KI7MT> sgfg, yes
[19:54] <bekks> MonkeyDust: A notebook vendor bought by Dell a few years ago.
[19:54] <KI7MT> MonkeyDust, Over priced gammign boxes
[19:54] <bekks> sgfg: "Yes".
[19:54] <sgfg> as vm
[19:55] <sgfg> its not over priced
[19:55] <KI7MT> sgfg, hardware is hardware, the name of the machine has little to do with whether the hw is supported or not.
[19:55] <bekks> sgfg: they are overpriced, heavily.
[19:56] <sgfg> hardware matters at some point
[19:56] <sgfg> looking at the graphics cards
[19:56] <sgfg> may not have the drives
[19:56] <bekks> sgfg: the answer to your initial question still is "yes".
[19:57] <mattintech> no_gravity: you could restart tightvncserver to reset the counter if you can ssh in.
[19:57] <sgfg> so no probes to encounter with the drivers
[19:57] <MonkeyDust> sgfg  try a live usb or dvd, first
[19:57] <no_gravity> mattintech: that would kill my x session
[19:58] <sgfg> makes sense MonkeyDust
[19:59] <mattintech> no_gravity: yes it would.
[19:59] <no_gravity> mattintech: which i dont want
[19:59] <JohnnyL> How do you change the TX transmit power of your wireless connection in Ubuntu? If I don't plug in power for the laptop the connection terminates.
[20:00] <no_gravity> mattintech: so i will install x11vnc and use it to connect to the existing x session. dont know a better way.
[20:00] <JohnnyL> worked fine in windows 8.
[20:01] <ayiga> hi
[20:01] <ayiga> i've a problem
[20:01] <ayiga> someone can help me
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> ayiga  start with a question
[20:02] <JohnnyL> also how do you upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10?
[20:02] <sgfg> JohnnyL read the forums pls
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> JohnnyL  do-release-upgrade
[20:02] <no_gravity> ayiga: whats your problem?
[20:03] <MonkeyDust> sgfg  that's not polite, the guy is asking for help
[20:03] <JohnnyL> monkeydust: what is that?
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> JohnnyL  a way to upgrade to the next release
[20:04] <ayiga> i've one problem with my ubuntu 12.04 when i install compiz
[20:04] <sgfg> MonkeyDust that question was noobish
[20:04] <JohnnyL> okay great.
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> sgfg  we all used to be beginners
[20:04] <JohnnyL> thank you so much MonkeyDust.
[20:04] <bekks> sgfg: This channel is for helping every one. You, him, others.
[20:04]  * sgfg bows
[20:06] <mattintech> JohnnyL: sudo iwconfig <interface> txpower #
[20:06] <jan_> hi all. Is there somebody that knows how to remap the capslock key on ubuntu 13.10? Im having trouble doing it, after changing the keyboard layout it stops working
[20:06] <mattintech> replace <infterface> with wlan0 or what ever your interace name is
[20:07] <mattintech> no_gravity: yeah, i don't know of a way that you could reset the coutner while the process is running.
[20:07] <JohnnyL> mattintech: perfect thank you so much.
[20:07] <JohnnyL> MonkeyDust: updating!
[20:07] <mattintech> no_gravity: just restarting it..
[20:08] <no_gravity> mattintech: as i said, i cannot restart it.
[20:09] <ayiga> someone how to install call of duty on ubuntu 12.04
[20:09] <ayiga> someone know how to install call of duty on ubuntu 12.04????
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> ayiga  is that a windows game? if yes, check !appdb
[20:10] <imghost> Ayiga, usr steam
[20:10] <jan_> did u check winehq?
[20:10] <no_gravity> ayiga: sorry, i dont know.
[20:10] <jan_> its a shitty game none the less:D
[20:10] <jan_> let me google it for u, whats the title of the call of duty that u want to install?
[20:11] <MonkeyDust> jan_  you too, stay polite pease
[20:11] <jan_> mate i am polite, im simply telling my opinion of the quality of the game. its bad.
[20:11] <KI7MT> ayiga, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Ubuntu+Install+COD
[20:12] <faryshta> hi, how can I  send files using pidgin on yahoo msn?
[20:13] <lickalott> LOL @ KI7MT @ LMGTFY
[20:13] <Calinou> don't use lmgtfy
[20:13] <Calinou> faryshta, I don't think you can
[20:13] <Calinou> tell people to use better protocols
[20:13] <lickalott> why Calinou
[20:13] <jan_> Nobody here that remapped keys in 13.10? setxbkmap works one time then it gets messed up and i have to reset and do it again and xmodmap doesnt work at all :/
[20:14] <bekks> Calinou: Of course you can run COD on Ubuntu.
[20:14] <Calinou> I wasn't talking about COD
[20:14] <Calinou> lickalott, because 1) it wastes the time of people 2) it uses Google
[20:14] <jan_> trin2>cod and its running "native" with steam:D
[20:14] <lickalott> honestly the only thing that separates "us" from the people asking questions is our google-fu.  And I think it adds a sense of humor to the whole thing
[20:15] <faryshta> is there a yahoo client for ubuntu that let me do file transfer?
[20:16] <jan_> why would u want to transfer files 90s style?
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> !im | faryshta
[20:16] <jan_> !kopete
[20:16] <Calinou> jan_, it's not 90s style, it's non-proprietary style
[20:17] <faryshta> MonkeyDust, I have empathy installed. Everytime I click f4 I get the system configuration window for xfce instead of the account configuration window for empathy
[20:17] <lilred> hey guys, I'd like to create a .deb package but I don't know how, can someone link me to the relevant documentation?
[20:17] <jan_> i dont mind using dropbox to transfer files or email or irc
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> lilred  http://www.webupd8.org/2010/01/how-to-create-deb-package-ubuntu-debian.html
[20:18] <jan_> damn too slow:D
[20:19] <tpw_rules> hey. having issues getting grub to work again. booted off a livecd, ran update-grub, and it failed to get the canonical path of /cow
[20:19] <jan_> guys how can i move the messages from irc to another window? im using xchat
[20:19] <lilred> Thank you MonkeyDust!
[20:19] <jan_> tpw did u follow the wiki?
[20:19] <lickalott> jan_: what do you mean?
[20:19] <faryshta> MonkeyDust, how can I add new accounts on empathy?
[20:20] <tpw_rules> jan_: what wiki page would that be?
[20:20] <MonkeyDust> faryshta  idk, never used it myself
[20:20] <jan_> i want to have stuff like who entered and left to be in a different window as the actual talk. havent used irc for years
[20:21] <Wubix> sorry guys, but where does the bug report go to when i run ubuntu-bug? i see no log and nothing
[20:21] <lickalott> are they annoying?  I just surpressed mine.  I'm not sure if you can do that.
[20:21] <lickalott> (what you're talking about)
[20:21] <jan_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery
[20:21] <kostkon> Wubix, launchpad.net
[20:21] <jan_> i used some of the german wiki but i guess that does the same. mount stuff to /media, chroot into it, update-grub
[20:22] <jan_> how can i adress a person directly, its not @ isnt it?:D
[20:22] <Wubix> kostkon: anonymously??
[20:22] <bekks> jan_: Just type his/her name in front of what you want to say.
[20:22] <jan_> bekks thank you
[20:22] <MonkeyDust> jan_  msg person text
[20:23] <KI7MT> Wubix, ubuntu-bug info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[20:23] <MonkeyDust> jan_  /msg person text <-- but ask first if you can
[20:23] <lickalott> or /msg <nick> or /query <nick> jan_
[20:23] <kostkon> Wubix, hmm if you are not already logged in i'd say anonymously yes
[20:23] <jan_> i want to get the name: text thing i dont want to send a message sry if i made u misunderstand:D
[20:24] <SchrodingersScat> jan_: try tab after hitting the first few letters
[20:24] <Wubix> KI7MT: that is a ton to read :(
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> jan_  you mean tab completion?
[20:24] <faryshta> is there a yahoo client for ubuntu that let me do file transfer?
[20:24] <lickalott> faryshta, why?
[20:25] <Wubix> kostkon: ok, thanks
[20:25] <faryshta> lickalott, why what?
[20:25] <andywilkie>  aww  ubuntu 14.04 is unpacking friends , i do like the name of some stuff lol :o)
[20:25] <SchrodingersScat> !ubuntu+1 | andywilkie
[20:26] <lickalott> why yahoo specifically?
[20:26] <lickalott> does that have LTS or is 12.04 "it" for a while?
[20:26] <andywilkie> sorry I am easily amused :o)
[20:26] <andywilkie> thank you SchrodingersScat
[20:27] <bjoern_> test
[20:27] <jan_> 14.04=lts
[20:27] <faryshta> lickalott, i have many friends on yahoo. i don't think my reasons are relevant
[20:28] <jan_> faryshta you could always create a dropbox account for your friends and you or use some irc channel
[20:28] <faryshta> jan_, I need yahoo messenger.
[20:29] <lickalott> if you were just looking for file transfer I was going to suggest other options.  If you are using something yahoo specific obviously my opinions wouldn't matter.  That's why I was asking.
[20:29] <faryshta> my friends are not tech savy
[20:29] <kostkon> faryshta, just give them the link to click on, be it a dropbox or even ubuntu one url
[20:30] <faryshta> kostkon, no thanks.
[20:30] <kostkon> faryshta, i don't think it's that hard
[20:30] <kostkon> faryshta, ok then
[20:31] <jan_> hmm i used some google and it seems that file transfer is still a problem over yahoo, it was years ago already so if theres no fix im not to sure that it can be fixed easily(bad protocol)
[20:31] <designbybeck> Do you still have to use somethign like gksu nautilus instead of sudo nautilus to launch it with root access?
[20:32] <jan_> sudo nautilus worked for me but terminal>nautilus:D
[20:32] <designbybeck> jan_,  I know it works, but in the past there was reasoning against using it... just didn't know if that is still the case
[20:33] <designbybeck> I've never had any problems personally just doing sudo, but is that advised?
[20:33] <tpw_rules> okay now i've just upgraded and unity seems to not be launching
[20:33] <jan_> hmm it has to be late 90s with icq and i was a problem all the time:D
[20:34] <jan_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm  maybe?
[20:35] <tpw_rules> okay NOW my problem is i just upgraded and aticonfig can't detect my card
[20:35] <MonkeyDust> faryshta  or use ubuntu one
[20:35] <jan_> tpw so you are at the terminal right now?
[20:35] <faryshta> MonkeyDust, how does that solves it?
[20:36] <tpw_rules> jan_: no, i have an approximation of a display. i see a background and my icons but no titlebar and there's black borders around it
[20:36] <tpw_rules> i can get into a terminal with ctrl+alt+f1
[20:36] <lickalott> faryshta, is it out of the question to have your "peeps" convert to gtalk/hangouts?
[20:36] <jan_> hmm maybe you should reinstall the drivers...fglrx thats the name isnt it?
[20:36] <MonkeyDust> faryshta  it's a way to transfer / share files
[20:36] <Guest5965> no
[20:37] <lickalott> tpw_rules cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf and pastebin it
[20:37] <Guest5965> lickalott  right
[20:37] <jan_> tpw dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ and setsid unity try this maybe its fixed by it. i hope i typed it right:D
[20:37] <tpw_rules> i can't really pastebin it
[20:38] <lickalott> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[20:38] <jan_> but mostly id reinstall your graphics driver
[20:38] <jan_> i dunno how for ati im totally fine with my intel gpu:D
[20:38] <lickalott> then cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit and shoot us the url
[20:38] <faryshta> lickalott, i tried it. didn't work
[20:39] <faryshta> MonkeyDust, i need yahoo messenger file transfer
[20:39] <tpw_rules> i'm getting a repeated error which says io error on fd0 about every 5 seconds and keeps writing over things
[20:39] <lickalott> you may be sol homey
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> faryshta  yes, but maybe what you want does not exist or is not possible, so please don't reject everything else
[20:39] <jan_> tpw i guess that u just need to reset your configs so reinstall the driver with purge
[20:39] <lickalott> what is fd0?  hard drive, thumb drive? tpw_rules
[20:40] <lickalott> jan_ have you had him try and update?
[20:40] <tpw_rules> i think it's floppy drive, which i don't have
[20:40] <jan_> faryshta : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1598530
[20:40] <lickalott> tpw_rules sudo fdisk -lu
[20:40] <KI7MT> tpw_rules, make sure it's disabled in the BIOS
[20:41] <tpw_rules> lemme fiddle around with that; i see the first 4 partitions of my hard drive then it stops
[20:41] <lickalott> stops as in doesn't complete the stdout?
[20:41] <tpw_rules> yes
[20:41] <jan_> tpw start with a reinstall of your driver. its the most common solution
[20:41] <jan_> u did upgrade fro 12.04 to 13.10?
[20:41] <lickalott> was this from an upgrade or a fresh install tpw_rules?
[20:41] <lickalott> rutt rooh.... if ^ is true
[20:42] <tpw_rules> upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10
[20:42] <lickalott> oh.
[20:42] <lickalott> maybe a simple fsck -y then reboot?
[20:42] <jan_> tpw did u make a backup of your files?
[20:42] <tpw_rules> i'm not concerned about that and worst case scenario i can pull the drive and reboot
[20:42] <tpw_rules> or rather attach it to another machine
[20:43] <faryshta> jan_, the problem was solved for gmail accounts.
[20:43] <jan_> sry faryshta its not looking like anybody solved it for yahoo, i did some google and no solutions:(
[20:43] <jan_> are u on lts or 13.10?
[20:44] <lickalott> so you're concerned with the graphics at this point (only) tpw_rules?
[20:44] <tpw_rules> you could say that
[20:44] <tpw_rules> okay, disabled the floppy in the bios, done with that
[20:44] <jan_> tpw there i no need to pull anything my point is that 12.10 is not a reasonable upgrade form lts if there is 13.10which has a lot of improvements and theres gonna be a new lts "soon"
[20:45] <tpw_rules> well my system doesn't work well enough to upgrade
[20:45] <tpw_rules> i needed to upgrade it to run a piece of software
[20:45] <jan_> Ah btw anybody here that has a solution to the chrome flash player crapping up the panel and "dock" after going full screen?
[20:46] <lickalott> i did that once tpw_rules.  THen figured since 12.10 wasn't LTS, I'd go with 13.04.  When I did that upgrade my entire filesystem was read-only after wards.
[20:46] <tpw_rules> huh, that's a bit bizarre
[20:46] <jan_> tpw im just curious, what did u need to run?:D
[20:46] <faryshta> jan_, yeah, I only come here after google fails me. Yes 13.10
[20:46] <tpw_rules> cgminer for litecoins
[20:46] <faryshta> jan_, also tried y!m + wine and doesn't work either
[20:47] <jan_> faryshta i know that its troublesome all the time, especially yahoo which i, im sorry, dont see the reason to use overall
[20:47] <jan_> i assume its working on windows?
[20:49] <dave87> Hello! I have a RH open client installed on my PC, with encrypted HDD. I would like to install ubuntu on external drive, while keeping the original installation, HDD and bootloader untouched. If anyone knows how to do that, please pm me, I have some more specific questions about this process
[20:50] <SchrodingersScat> !pm | dave87
[20:50] <jan_> dave87 if u install the new grub on the second hdd it shouldnt touch the first one
[20:50] <aarossig> I have a laptop that is not capable of booting from USB, but has archlinux installed on it. I am switching to Mint, and I would prefer not to pull the hard drive out of it. Is there any way to chainload a USB boot? I am switching it to Mint.
[20:51] <bekks> aarossig: Ask the Mint support please. This is Ubuntu.
[20:51] <sidney_> Can Mate be installed on Ubuntu
[20:52] <Calinou> try not to
[20:52] <jan_> sidney mate is buggy, dont install it:)
[20:52] <Calinou> mate sucks, the end
[20:52] <Calinou> it's full of obsolete technologies for republicans
[20:53] <sidney_> I just trashed a debian install because I coundn't install graphics drivers
[20:53] <dave87> jan_ I was hoping that would do the trick. the other drive is NFTS, normally used with windows. Could that cause some trouble? (during Ubuntu installation it couldn't see how much empty space there is on the drive)
[20:53] <aarossig> sidney_: I use Mint with Mate at work doing embedded software development. It's not bad, but these days Cinnamon is quite nice.
[20:53] <SmallJoker> Has someone an idea how I could fix the following problem? Whenever I start Ubuntu, it keeps adjusting my screen and freezes/loops forever. But when I use an PCI card, then I got rid of that problem!?
[20:53] <jan_> if u need it slick use *box or xfce. end
[20:53] <dave87> jan_ i would only like to use some of the empty space on that drive for temporary ubuntu installation
[20:54] <sidney_> jan_ i like gnome2
[20:54] <mindstorm> i3 or bust
[20:54] <SchrodingersScat> sidney_: I did too, sidney_ , I did too.
[20:54] <jan_> sidney do whatever u like but mate is BUGGY. its not running as stable as maybe gnome2 did.
[20:54] <MonkeyDust> sidney_  fallback is very similar to gnome2
[20:54] <Calinou> aarossig, lol, embedded
[20:55] <aarossig> bekks: considering that Ubuntu and Mint are so similar (especially in the lower layers like booting) I am hoping someone can provide advice on booting to USB
[20:55] <MonkeyDust> !fallback | sidney_
[20:55] <MonkeyDust> !classic | sidney_
[20:55] <SrRaven> how do I open a program with sudo ?!
[20:55] <SrRaven> I need to extract something from a tar
[20:55] <Calinou> use "sudo"
[20:55] <SchrodingersScat> SrRaven: try adding sudo before it?
[20:55] <Calinou> ...you answered your own question
[20:55] <SrRaven> but I open the command in a gui
[20:55] <SchrodingersScat> SrRaven: gksudo
[20:55] <aarossig> Calinou: laugh all you want.. but I can take processors from reset to main(), that's powerful stuff
[20:56] <mindstorm> gksudo
[20:56] <Calinou> cool story
[20:56] <tpw_rules> lickalott: paste.ubuntu.com/6613588
[20:57] <sebsebseb> aarossig: bekks of course Ubuntu and Mint are similar ,  Mint is based on it that's why. about 95% Ubuntu with some other changes including the branding and a few of it's own programs
[20:57] <bekks> sebsebseb: Mint isnt supported in here.
[20:57] <tpw_rules> jan_: reinstalling didn't fix it
[20:57] <sebsebseb> bekks: yep
[20:57] <BluesKaj> aarossig, no cderom ?
[20:58] <jan_> mint is ubuntu without the great unity features and without the history of being slow even though its not slow anymore:D
[20:58] <aarossig> BluesKaj: unfortunately, no. It is a toughbook.
[20:58] <jan_> tpw im sorry thats as much as i can do over irc. im not experienced with ati gpu and linux
[20:58] <Calinou> jan_, there are other ubuntu derivative SUPPORTED here
[20:58] <sebsebseb> bekks: oh I see you said to that person to go to Mint,  scrolled up
[20:59] <sebsebseb> Calinou: jan_ offical  Canonical supported dervatives yeah e.g.  Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Lubuntu,  and  the GNOME Remix as well I think
[20:59] <aarossig> BluesKaj: I pulled the harddrive a few months back to install archlinux on it, but I don't have the time to keep an arch system running smoothly anymore. I'm thinking that since I already have a full distro, it should (in theory) be easy to boot from USB
[21:00] <tpw_rules> lickalott: you gone?
[21:00] <jan_> you can simply dd the image on the usb
[21:00] <jan_> for windows theres tools like yumix or i dunno how its called:D
[21:00] <tpw_rules> unetbootin
[21:01] <KI7MT> Good luck with dd in Windows :-)
[21:01] <Pacy_> jan_, it's Yumi not yumix
[21:02] <JJJ12345> Hi
[21:02] <BluesKaj> aarossig, how old is the machine, most less tehn 3 tra old have usb boot capability , just neds to be enable in the uefi / bios
[21:02] <Pacy_> JJJ12345, hi
[21:02] <JJJ12345> I'm trying to edit source of Heimdall
[21:02] <JJJ12345> I have a fix here: https://github.com/Benjamin-Dobell/Heimdall/commit/e0e84b2f7a28bd188f104f51a845dc4ed8a9b7ea
[21:02] <JJJ12345> How exactly do I do that?
[21:02] <aarossig> BluesKaj: it's ancient, Pentium III circa 2000 or something like that
[21:02] <BluesKaj> oops let me turn some lights on
[21:03] <jan_> dd if of
[21:04] <MonkeyDust> where: if=input file, of=output file
[21:04] <tpw_rules> remember kids, DD stands for data destroyer
[21:05] <bekks> tpw_rules: Its like a weapon. dd doesnt detroy data, people destroy data.
[21:05] <JJJ12345> Hi, I'm trying to edit source of Heimdall, because there's a fix here: https://github.com/Benjamin-Dobell/Heimdall/commit/e0e84b2f7a28bd188f104f51a845dc4ed8a9b7ea
[21:05] <JJJ12345> How do I approach this?
[21:05] <KI7MT> bekks, indeed, people destroy  data with DD .. make sense to me :-)
[21:05] <tpw_rules> bekks: but it's a helll of a lot easier to shoot yourself in the foot when you've got a gun
[21:06] <bekks> tpw_rules: then arrest the weapon, it might want to shoot your foot.
[21:06] <tpw_rules> i'm not having this debate again
[21:06] <jan_> i could post some destroying dd but i wont, somebody trys it everytime:D
[21:06] <Pacy_> MonkeyDust, connect with JJJ12345  please , I surrendered//
[21:06] <Beldar> dd=dumb decision
[21:06] <andyfied> no way. rappers destroy data
[21:07] <KI7MT> You can train to correct ignorance, but there's no cure for the Galaticly Stupid
[21:07] <Copter> Hey how do i read root mail forgot the command :p
[21:07] <JJJ12345> Pacy_: ?
[21:08] <Pacy_> JJJ12345, No I was trying to connect u to MonkeyDust ->
[21:09] <jan_> dd=awesome decicion
[21:09] <KI7MT> Copter, mail -f  ... see man mail
[21:09] <JJJ12345> Oh
[21:09] <jan_> you could try sudo rm rf / that should copy usb files too...
[21:09] <SchrodingersScat> !danger | jan_
[21:10] <bekks> SchrodingersScat: It wasnt even a command.
[21:10] <SchrodingersScat> or did i miss part of the conversation?
[21:10] <jan_> all i wanted to do is show thats its no subject to dd, rm does the same
[21:10] <SchrodingersScat> bekks: oh, missing the - ?
[21:10] <ubuntu> timp0sey
[21:10] <bekks> SchrodingersScat: It would make a command even with -
[21:11] <bekks> SchrodingersScat: wouldnt
[21:12] <knightshade> the hyphen is missing before "rf" and it doesn't work without --no-preserve-root :-)
[21:12] <Guest62669> Sorry, my system crashed and I have it running with a live disk, now I want to copy my files to a backup drive, but cannot because of the permissions issue, I am trying to change this but do not know the username and password that is employed while running from live disk or is that necessary
[21:13] <jan_> passwd
[21:14] <jan_> sry, sudo passwd
[21:15] <loa> who is will robinson?
[21:15] <loa> from where is it?
[21:15] <atma111> Hi all need help ubuntu server someone speaks Spanish
[21:17] <jan_> loa its from lost in space
[21:17] <knightshade> atma111: no, yo no hablo espanol.
[21:17] <loa> jan_, yeah i googled that)
[21:17] <KI7MT> loa, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger,_Will_Robinson
[21:17] <knightshade> !es | atma111
[21:17] <timposey> my system crashed and I have it running with a live disk, now I want to copy my files to a backup drive, but cannot because of the permissions issue, I am trying to change this but do not know the username and password that is employed while running from live disk or is that necessary
[21:17] <atma111> T.T
[21:18] <bekks> timposey: sudo cp ?
[21:18] <jan_> timposey if u need to set a password do sudo passwd
[21:20] <atma111> thx
[21:20] <knightshade> atma111: de nada :>
[21:20] <bekks> jan_: Never ever do sudo passwd.
[21:20] <bekks> !root | jan_
[21:20] <atma111> can divide the internet speed in my local network?
[21:20] <jan_> bekks: he is on the live cd and he wants to set a password...i dont want to
[21:21] <bekks> jan_: and sudo passwd is the wrong approach.
[21:21] <Calinou> atma111, wondershaper
[21:21] <jan_> i know that i can go sudo su without the need of a root password:D
[21:22] <bekks> jan_: sudo su is wrong, too. USe sudo -i
[21:22] <jan_> atma your router can do that
[21:22] <jan_> bekks: whats the difference? both work, sudo su works on other systems too
[21:22] <Calinou> my router can't do that
[21:23] <Calinou> not all of them can
[21:23] <bekks> jan_: Just because something works, it doesnt make it more sensible.
[21:23] <atma111> wondershaper is better than squid3 ?
[21:23] <jan_> bekks so whats the difference?
[21:23] <bekks> atma111: wondershaper is a firewall tool, squid3 is a proxy server.
[21:24] <timposey> bkks, jan_: thanks so do I or don't I
[21:25] <bekks> jan_: The difference is, that sudo asks for the user password, executes su, which, as root, doesnt ask for a password. The same thing, "ask for the user password and give the user a root shell" is done by sudo -i
[21:25] <atma111> I have a cyber 8pc, I have an old pc
[21:25] <atma111> I need to make a server
[21:25] <jan_> bekks so if the same thing is done its the same with the same amount of keystrokes:D
[21:26] <bekks> jan_: your approach needs more keystrokes.
[21:26] <jan_> sudo-su
[21:26] <jan_> sudosu
[21:26] <jan_> sudo-i
[21:26] <bekks> jan_: "sudo su" vs. "sudo -i"
[21:26] <jan_> its the same amount of characters;)
[21:27] <bekks> jan_: Nontheless, your approach isnt sensible.
[21:27] <Beldar> jan_, I believe the difference in ubuntu is the level of root, IE what gets rooted.
[21:27] <bekks> Beldar: Technically not, both get you root environment.
[21:27] <jan_> and i bet they both do it the same way
[21:27] <Beldar> a permissions difference
[21:27] <bekks> jan_: No, they dont. I told you the difference.
[21:28] <totesmuhgoats> hi folks
[21:28] <totesmuhgoats> how can i see what different java packages i have installed?
[21:28] <bekks> Beldar: No, same permissions. Different, not sensible way of getting them when using sudo su
[21:28] <jan_> im not talking sudo -i vs su im talking sudo su vs sudo -i
[21:28] <bekks> jan_: Me too. I explained the difference to you and why your approacgh isnt sensible.
[21:29] <jan_> u said they do the same or did i misread it?:D
[21:29] <Beldar> bekks, Cool I have just seen it explained by different permissions.
[21:29] <bekks> Beldar: The permissions granted are the same.
[21:29] <bekks> jan_: You did misread.
[21:29] <jan_> yes so is there some safety issue with sudo su?
[21:29] <Beldar> does not matter to me but thanks
[21:30] <bekks> jan_: They do different things with the same result, which is a big difference to "they do the same".
[21:30] <ip> mdam
[21:30] <Guest80040> hallo all
[21:30] <jan_> hmm i guess im just used to the old fashioned su way so i didnt think about changing my aproach
[21:31] <jan_> does sudo -i work on all systems with sudo or is it some debian/ubuntu thing?
[21:31] <bekks> jan_: It works for every sudo.
[21:31] <Guest80040> i am new hire
[21:31] <Guest80040> name ?
[21:32] <Guest80040> hm
[21:33] <timposey> bekks jan_:  So I changed the password but when I use the chown -R it is saying that I have a invalid group can either of you help out with that?
[21:33] <KI7MT> New Hire or New here ?
[21:33] <Guest80040> eeegal
[21:33] <jan_> alright found it, if i do sudo su i wont get logged by sudo anymore while i will with sudu -i
[21:33] <bekks> timposey: Which password did you change, and which exact command are you using for "chown -R"? what are the missing arguments?
[21:34] <bekks> jan_: thats another implication.
[21:34] <KI7MT> jan_, sudo -E su   .. shoudl keep the users env
[21:34] <jan_> bekks : to me thats a reason to use sudo -i that i can tell people.thx for stumbling me on it, its nice to know
[21:37] <Guest80040> jajajja
[21:39] <jan_> Another try: Does anybody know a fix to the chrome flashplayer messing up the unity UI after leaving fullscreen video? ofc it reverts after like 20sec but its annoying. Doesn occur with firefox
[21:39] <timposey> I was using sudo chown -R ubuntu:ubuntu /media/ubuntu/Storage but in the second ubuntu I put password which I had just put in using sudo -i and the passwd command
[21:40] <bekks> timposey: I dont get that "in the second", etc. - which command did you run?
[21:42] <timposey> I was using sudo chown -R ubuntu:passwd /media/ubuntu/Storage
[21:42] <jan_> did u try the easy way using gksu nautlus?
[21:42] <timposey> bekks: I was using sudo chown -R ubuntu:passwd /media/ubuntu/Storage
[21:43] <bekks> timposey: Do you have a group "passwd" - if not, you will get an error message.
[21:43] <jhutchins> timposey: You don't, that's why it gave you an invalid group error.
[21:44] <timposey> bekks, jhutchins:   ok, I read something wrong, I thought that is were the password went.
[21:45] <timposey> bekks, jhutchins: so back to my original question what is the username when I am working from a live disk?
[21:46] <bekks> timposey: the groupname is of interest.
[21:47] <bekks> timposey: you already know the username.
[21:47] <bekks> timposey: and for chown -R, the groupname is optional.
[21:48] <timposey> bekks: thanks I got it
[21:50] <YEP> Hi everybody
[21:51] <balsaq> hi yep, welcome to ubuntu
[21:51] <greylurk> Hey, I accidentally zapped my /etc/fstab.  Is there a good way to regenerate it, or should I just rebuild it by hand?
[21:52] <YEP> When i shut my computer down by clicking shutdown it takes forever to shutdown c
[21:52] <MonkeyDust> greylurk  "zapped"?
[21:52] <jan_> did u reboot after killing the fstab or are u still in the sys?
[21:52] <greylurk> I'm still in the system.  I catted /dev/null over it effectively.
[21:53] <jan_> half an hour earlier i got told dd was dangerous, so cat is as bad:D
[21:53] <YEP> 
[21:54] <jan_> you can start with cat /proc/mounts and then grep the info u need to rebuild it
[21:54] <bekks> jan_: or you just use grep instead of cat.
[21:55] <jan_> sure
[21:57] <Beldar> YEP, shutdown c is this a wubi install or a shutdown of windows?
[21:58] <YEP> I didn't mean to put the c Beldar and i am using ubunti
[21:58] <Beldar> YEP, how long exactly is the shutdown?
[21:59] <YEP> Ubuntu so try
[21:59] <YEP> Sorry
[21:59] <YEP> At least 8 hours
[21:59] <bekks> YEP: then your computer just doesnt turn off.
[22:00] <YEP> Pretty much bekks i have to manually shut it down
[22:00] <bekks> YEP: Thats most likely a bug in your BIOS ACPI implementation when not running Windows.
[22:00] <widad> please i need help. i can't get connected to my online games in ubuntu and neither can surf on internet correctly. but with windows it does correctly.what should i do?
[22:01] <YEP> Okay
[22:01] <jan_> widad do u use wifi or lan?
[22:01] <bekks> LAN over Wifi maybe. :)
[22:01] <widad> jan_, wifi
[22:02] <jan_> at the upper right theres the wifi symbol, is it emtpy or like u would expect it?
[22:02] <widad> jan_, i get just 56% of it
[22:03] <bekks> widad: 56% of an icon?
[22:03] <jan_> but you are connected? so u can do stuff like ping google.com
[22:03] <widad> bekks, no of my wifi signal
[22:03] <daveda> hi, I know this is not the appropriate forum but does anyone know of any irc chatroom for anyone with serious mental health problem?
[22:03] <widad> jan_, i usully get 80% 90%
[22:04] <n00b_dust> widad, why don't you open up a terminal and show us the output of iwconfig
[22:04] <jan_> ping google.com does work though?
[22:05] <widad> wlan0     IEEE 802.11abgn  ESSID:"WIDAD"
[22:05] <widad>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point: 08:76:FF:AF:12:B8
[22:05] <widad>           Bit Rate=52 Mb/s   Tx-Power=15 dBm
[22:05] <widad>           Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[22:05] <widad>           Power Management:off
[22:05] <FloodBot1> widad: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:05] <widad>           Link Quality=42/70  Signal level=-68 dBm
[22:06] <jan_> my bitrate is at 65mb/s right now and im totally fine sitting next to the router...i dont think that the signal is a problem
[22:06] <widad> jan_, i cant even past on paste.ubuntu
[22:07] <widad> jan_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6613927/
[22:08] <jan_> could u do some ping? like ping -t 200 google.com to see if ur losing packages
[22:09] <widad> jan_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6613937/
[22:09] <jan_> the ping looks pretty much perfect^
[22:10] <jan_> your problem is opening webpages?
[22:10] <justcause2> hi
[22:10] <widad> jan_, ya i know but i suffer with the navigation and i don't do anything on interner
[22:10] <justcause2> Anyone know how I can play Just cause 2 + multiplayer steam mod on ubuntu 13.10? Possible?
[22:10] <widad> jan_, sorry internet
[22:11] <jan_> what id do is use a cable to connec tto see if theres a problem with the connection. if its working via cable you could think about getting whatever proprietary driver there is for your wifi (maybe ubuntu does it over the interface? I dunno)
[22:11] <jan_> justtacuse2 : u cannot: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=11316
[22:12] <jan_> widad try a cable, i hope that u have one.
[22:12] <widad> jan_, no i don't
[22:12] <n00b_dust> widad, quoting the obvious here, but can you check if your browser is configured to use a proxy?
[22:13] <jan_> justcause2 id use a toy os for toys, windows is a fine toy os:D
[22:13] <justcause2> :(
[22:13] <widad> n00b_dust, i worked perfectly for a year with this browser and i think yes it has a proxy i use google chrome
[22:14] <jan_> widad whats your wifi card? lspci -v | grep Wire
[22:15] <jan_> im sorry justcause but we cant change it, steam starts to get some games but mostly using dualboot with some win7 is the best solution.
[22:15] <widad> jan_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6613953/
[22:16] <anon12> I have installed nvidia-current by running sudo apt-get install nvidia-current; from a terminal but, when I run: sudo modprobe nvidia_current; I get: FATAL: Module nvidia_current not found.
[22:16] <jan_> hmm that didnt give the wireless card, maybe u need to look at just lscpi -v to find out which one u have
[22:16] <jan_> oh...do u use some wifi stick?
[22:18] <widad> jan_, wifi stick?
[22:18] <jan_> do you use an internal wifi on  a laptop or some usb stick to get wifi?
[22:18] <loa> how stable your ubuntu is?
[22:19] <loa> my have some stability issue, i can't get uptime more then week
[22:19] <widad> internel wifi on my laptop
[22:19] <widad> jan_, internel wifi on my laptop
[22:19] <jan_> loa mine is stable, didnt have a crash yet other then that annoying totem/gstreamer bug (which crashed totem, not the system) when removing subtitles:D
[22:19] <bekks> loa: server or desktop?
[22:19] <loa> jan_, what version you have?
[22:19] <loa> bekks, 13.10 desktop
[22:20] <jan_> loa im using 13.10 too, didnt have a crash u could tell us what crashes your ubuntu once a week and how cheap power is so u never turn the thing off:D
[22:20] <loa> on 12.04 i have uptime until i need update and reboot
[22:21] <loa> jan_, i am from russia, here everybody have cheap personal nuclear reactor.
[22:21] <jan_> :D
[22:22] <jan_> seriously i guess that 13.10 could be less stable then the lts, theres gonna be another lts soon. on the other hand i cant remember a crash so i had to reboot this year
[22:23] <widad> jan_, do you have any idea to solve my problem please?
[22:24] <jan_> yes widad try the lscpi -v and search for the name of your wifi chip
[22:24] <jan_> thats mine: Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 1000 [Condor Peak]
[22:24] <jan_> 	Subsystem: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 1000 BGN
[22:24] <jan_> Centrino Wireless-N 1000 BGN thats the name and then u can look it up
[22:24] <jan_> there: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[22:25] <jan_> maybe there is a proprietary driver for your wifi that works better, thats as much as i can help u right now:(
[22:26] <widad> jan_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6614003/
[22:27] <jan_> try to do those 2commands: sudo modprobe -r iwlwifi
[22:27] <jan_> sudo modprobe iwlwifi 11n_disable=1
[22:28] <jan_> got it from this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1978457 theres more pages maybe if that didnt help u find more help there
[22:28] <widad> jan_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6614026/
[22:29] <jan_> widad u have to disable wifi first so u can unload the wifi driver module
[22:29] <widad> ok
[22:31] <widad> jan_, same thing
[22:31] <widad> widad@widad-ThinkPad-T520:~$ sudo modprobe -r iwlwifi
[22:31] <widad> FATAL: Module iwlwifi is in use.
[22:31] <widad> widad@widad-ThinkPad-T520:~$ sudo modprobe iwlwifi 11n_disable=1
[22:31] <widad> widad@widad-ThinkPad-T520:~$
[22:31] <FloodBot1> widad: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:31] <delikiz> selam iyi geceler herkese
[22:32] <widad> jan_, same thing
[22:32] <jan_> try -rf, modprobe -rf iwlwifi
[22:32] <anon12> I have installed nvidia-current by running sudo apt-get install nvidia-current; from a terminal but, when I run: sudo modprobe nvidia_current; I get: FATAL: Module nvidia_current not found.
[22:34] <jan_> okay widad iv got to go now. just remember if somebody else tries to help u what your wifi card is and that the issue should be that the 11n protocol is causing problems
[22:34] <jan_> good luck and i hope that it just solved it anyway:D
[22:36] <loa> ok, for example i now have fs on one partition, have crypted home folder, ubuntu 13.10, i want install 12.04 on another partition, but save my home folder location.
[22:36] <loa> how i can do this?
[22:36] <widad_> jan_, it says "FATAL: Module iwlwifi is in use."but wasn't
[22:38] <jan_> hmm i really dont know how to do more then -rf to unload a kernel module. its how far my knowledge goes. i feel positive that disabling the 11n with those two commands would help, theres a similar problem that some wifi cards have with a german router thats common
[22:40] <widad_> jan_, i hate that i really enjoy ubuntu i have tugling between win7 and ubuntu
[22:40] <jan_> you gotta try at some more frequented hours somebody will be able to help u disabling the 11n stuff
[22:40] <nashant> Hey guys. 2 questions. 1: does anybody know if there's a brightness indicator that integrates itself with the power indicator? And 2: is there anything that stops the screen turning off when watching videos (flash/html/vlc/whatever)?
[22:41] <jan_> ah wait do you nknow how to configure your router?
[22:41] <jan_> nashant : http://www.ohloh.net/p/Caffeine_applet
[22:42] <widad_> jan_, no that's the problem i just begun to learn it at school
[22:42] <jan_> its simply going to the web interface and then disable the wifi mode to something thjats not "n":D
[22:43] <widad_> oh i'll try
[22:43] <widad_> jan_, thanks
[22:43] <nashant> jan_: I think you have to enable/disable that yourself, don't you? I still want the screen to turn off if I fall asleep watching something,
[22:44] <jan_> your welcome. have a nice day and happy christmas, chanukka, new year, the other new year and whatver you fancy:D
[22:44] <jan_> nashant then u can make the duration to disable longer in the options
[22:45] <jan_> performance-click the brighhness link at the bottom
[22:45] <jan_> disable screen after inactive for: x minutes
[22:45] <jan_> so it wont dimm but after like 30minutes its going off totally
[22:45] <jan_> gotta go, bb:)
[22:46] <nashant> jan_: So you don't know of anything that does it all automatically? Watches for a video and disable screen off just while it's running?
[22:54] <DannyButterman> Hi there. This morning my ubuntu has begun to boot to command prompt. It seems nvidia_304 is not working anymore following the last updates. I can only use nvidia_173 (which is why I can be here). Can someone help me ? Am I the only one with this problem ?
[23:03] <jhutchins> DannyButterman: You usually have to rebuild third party (Nvidia) drivers if you upgrade the kernel.  Try booting to the old kernel, it should still work.
[23:08] <DannyButterman> jhutchins: I always use repos drivers over nvidia binaries because  of this problem. So it's not the case here. Plus the symptoms are the same with all the older kernels. I'm totally clueless :s
[23:09] <nesoi> hello... I am about to set up an AWS instance with Ubuntu server, and I'm wondering why one would chose 12.04.3 vs 13.10
[23:09] <bekks> DannyButterman: Did you boot into the new kerneland reinstall the nvidia drivers?
[23:09] <bekks> nesoi: Because 12.04 has a much longer support than 13.10.
[23:10] <nesoi> bekks : in terms of features or performance, is there a big difference? How about in terms of installing current software versions of things like Postgres, etc?
[23:10] <nesoi> or how about in terms of stability?
[23:10] <bekks> nesoi: Should be supported in 12.04 as well. 12.04 has a much longer support.
[23:11] <helpmeplease> hello, could someone help me real quick with a problem
[23:11] <nesoi> yes, I know it's an LTS, but I'm wondering about every other concern :) performance, installing current software versions of other software, stability, etc.
[23:11] <Lunar_Lamp> helpmeplease: don't ask to ask, just ask :-)
[23:12] <bekks> nesoi: Was already answered :)
[23:12] <Walex> helpmeplease: just ask your question and if someone wants they will reply. Repeat it every 5-10 minutes if nobody replies, but nore more frequently.
[23:12] <helpmeplease> I am running windows 7 and dual boot ubuntu 12.10, I was running 12.04 but after updating I get the logo for half a second then a black screen, I cannot do ctrl-alt-f1 or anything of that nature
[23:12] <Nicekiwi> hey so I'm getting a segmentation fault when I run apt-get update
[23:12] <Nicekiwi> help?
[23:14] <jhutchins> helpmeplease: can you boot to rescue mode?
[23:15] <DannyButterman> bekks: that's what I first did. I switched from one kernel to another, one nvidia driver to another. The result is I must use nvidia_173 or 173_updates and any kernel. All other nvidia drivers don't work (boot to command prompt)
[23:15] <helpmeplease> I can go to recovery mode
[23:15] <bekks> DannyButterman: Then maybe newer versions do not support your FPU?
[23:15] <bekks> DannyButterman: *GPU
[23:16] <helpmeplease> how would I find out?
[23:17] <helpmeplease> Also under windows 7 the ubuntu parition is showing up as a recovery parition
[23:17] <DannyButterman> bekks: that's my guess too. But there must be a way to downgrade the nvidia_304 drivers to their previous working state, isn't it ?
[23:17] <bekks> DannyButterman: you cant "downgrade a state".
[23:18] <jhutchins> helpmeplease: Windows does not understand other filesystems wihout help (third party drivers).
[23:19] <helpmeplease> jhutchins: what do you recommend I do?
[23:20] <DannyButterman> bekks: downgrade a driver actually, you know what I mean anyway don't you ? Sorry but English is not my mother tongue :s
[23:20] <DarkKnightCZ> hi, can i somehow disable that annoying search-when-type feature? (so when pressing L in folder it jumps right to first file starting with L instead of recursive search of every directory)
[23:21] <Guest53872> ciao
[23:21] <jhutchins> You should be able to get to the grub menu - you might need to hold down shift as you boot - that should give you a console from which you can fix your video.
[23:21] <MonkeyDust> DarkKnightCZ  maybe you find a usful option in dconf-editor
[23:22] <helpmeplease> I dont know if the video is my problem, I am running an intel GPU, and most people seem to have a problem with nvidias
[23:23] <jhutchins> helpmeplease: It's not clear whether you're talkiing about an ubuntu recovery mode or some windows thing.
[23:24] <DarkKnightCZ> MonkeyDust: thanks, i will look into it
[23:24] <jhutchins> helpmeplease: Are you running two different video cards?
[23:24] <helpmeplease> no I am not
[23:25] <munz> DarkKnightCZ: if u find the solution plz let me know :)
[23:26] <helpmeplease> Well I have a problem and two ways of fixing it, the problem to restate is when I start up ubuntu I get the logo for a brief second then it goes black, no sounds or anything else, I could try and fix it from the recovery menu or the grub or whatever, or I could uninstall and reinstall, however I cannot uninstall as under the disk management in windows 7 there is the C drive partition and a blank named partition which I cannot del
[23:26] <helpmeplease> so I cannot uninstall, I hope that clears it up more
[23:26] <jhutchins> helpmeplease: Then you're either running an Intel GPU or an Nvida GPU.
[23:27] <helpmeplease> yes
[23:27] <helpmeplease> I am running intel gpu, never said I was using a nvidia
[23:27] <jhutchins> Ah, so I see.
[23:27] <DarkKnightCZ> munz, MonkeyDust: hmm, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1164016
[23:27] <helpmeplease> So I either need to figure out how to delete ubuntu and then install again, or fix it from the grub or recovery mode
[23:28] <helpmeplease> so do you have any idea what I can do?
[23:28] <jhutchins> helpmeplease: My first question remains, can you boot the system into Ubuntu rescue/recovery mode.  That determines if the base system is OK, or if you have a boot problem.
[23:28] <helpmeplease> yes I can do that
[23:29] <jhutchins> helpmeplease: If it boots to rescue mode, try adding nomodeset to the kernel boot parameters.  It should boot to a console again.
[23:29] <nashant> Anyone know how I get a brightness slider in the power indicator?
[23:29] <helpmeplease> I added that to the quicksplash under the grub menu but it went black but had an underscore and could not do anything
[23:30] <helpmeplease> and when I went back to the grub after restarting it was no longer there
[23:30] <pulsar78> so ive been googling the last 30 mins for a simple bootdisk, no gui just some basic tools dd/ps etc
[23:30] <pulsar78> cant find anything under 100 mb
[23:31] <munz> wow DarkKnightCZ that kinda sucks
[23:31] <pulsar78> anyone an idea ?
[23:31] <DarkKnightCZ> munz: yeeah... but there are solutions in comments (patching current version of nautilus)
[23:32] <helpmeplease> any ideas jhutchins?
[23:34] <munz> DarkKnightCZ: cool, i may patch it then, i like nautilus and dont really want to switch file browsers
[23:34] <DarkKnightCZ> yep, me too :)
[23:35] <_SrRaven> so,ubuntu did kill my bootcamp booting thing
[23:35] <_SrRaven> cant boot into mac anymore
[23:36] <_SrRaven> also, when I log in again after restarting...I get a black screen :s
[23:37] <MonkeyDust> _SrRaven  you were warned, iirc
[23:37] <_SrRaven> munz and something with _U in the end said it'd be fine
[23:37] <_SrRaven> so...
[23:38] <SrRaven> re
[23:38] <Nicekiwi> Ubuntu forums are down?
[23:39] <helpmeplease> I cannot load ubuntu as it goes black when the logo appears, I can go into recovery mode, and It does not seem to be a problem with my GPU
[23:39] <Nicekiwi> helpmeplease, is this a new installation?
[23:40] <helpmeplease> no it was 12.04 but when updated it to 12.10 it stopped
[23:40] <helpmeplease> stopped working *
[23:41] <Nicekiwi> helpmeplease, ugh.. 12.10 is hell on earth.
[23:41] <Nicekiwi> helpmeplease, do you use the proprietary Nvidia drivers?
[23:41] <helpmeplease> No, I have an integrated intel gpu, im on a laptop
[23:43] <Nicekiwi> helpmeplease, does ur lappy have an SSD?
[23:43] <helpmeplease> what is an ssd?
[23:43] <SrRaven> solid state drive
[23:44] <Nicekiwi> helpmeplease, ^
[23:44] <Nicekiwi> helpmeplease, you might try this: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/ubuntu-lightdm-black-screen-when-using.html
[23:45] <helpmeplease> no i dont have a SSD
[23:47] <SrRaven> yeah I dont get it why wont it login :/
[23:47] <helpmeplease> I cannot uninstall ubuntu because in windows it calls my ubuntu partition a "recovery partition"
[23:47] <Nicekiwi> helpmeplease, maybe try it anyway. But first once you've booted to a blank screen what happens if you press Ctl + Alt + f3
[23:48] <helpmeplease> nothing
[23:48] <helpmeplease> it completely freezes up
[23:48] <helpmeplease> cannot to ctl alt any Fs
[23:48] <Nicekiwi> ok, but you can boot into recovery?
[23:48] <helpmeplease> yes I can
[23:48] <Nicekiwi> thats just commandline right?
[23:49] <Nicekiwi> you can login and work normall within comamdnline right, helpmeplease ?
[23:49] <helpmeplease> not when I try and boot normally
[23:49] <Nicekiwi> helpmeplease, I mean in recovery
[23:49] <helpmeplease> and the only way to get to it is through grub, or when I resume from recovery it asks me to log in but not from the log in screen but the terminal
[23:50] <Nicekiwi> helpmeplease, yes and that all works right?
[23:50] <helpmeplease> yes
[23:51] <Guest50470> ру
[23:51] <Guest50470> рус
[23:52] <Nicekiwi> helpmeplease, you might try this: http://paste.laravel.com/1gex
[23:52] <helpmeplease> okay, I am going to log into another computer to the irc, and will try both things you linked me
[23:52] <Nicekiwi> helpmeplease. but if you can you're better off avoiding 12.10 and sticking with 12.04.
[23:53] <helpmeplease> well I was planning to update to 13.04
[23:53] <Nicekiwi> thats a good plan too
[23:54] <MonkeyDust> helpmeplease  what Nicekiwi says... me too, I returned to 12.04
[23:54] <SrRaven> how would I change my video settings to the default one in ubuntu?
[23:54] <SrRaven> if I cant boot into it
[23:54] <helpmeplease2> Okay I will be chatting from this account while I try and fix my ubuntu
[23:54] <teebsz> Anyone here with experience automating Ubuntu installs?
[23:54] <teebsz> Trying to preseed questions.
[23:54] <MonkeyDust> SrRaven  do you have more than one pc in the same network?
[23:55] <SrRaven> theoretically yes
[23:55] <SrRaven> I am on my desktop PC atm
[23:55] <MonkeyDust> SrRaven  you *could* try ssh
[23:55] <teebsz> I have gotten ubuntu.seed in /preseed folder to accept some q/a.
[23:56] <SrRaven> MonkeyDust sounds like a plan
[23:56] <teebsz> But there are some questions that it can't answer; localization
[23:56] <MonkeyDust> SrRaven  or use some other technology to connect remotely to your not-working machine
[23:56] <SrRaven> but it wont connect using my wifi
[23:56] <teebsz> Now I'm trying some combination of Kickstart ( from RedHat) and ubuntu.seed
[23:56] <SrRaven> do I have to use the lan?
[23:56] <MonkeyDust> SrRaven  use what works
[23:57] <Nicekiwi> anyone know a fix for segmentation fault when running apt-get update?
[23:57] <teebsz> I'm also worried some Ubuntu parameter is forcing questions.
[23:58] <SrRaven> hmm it says connected but I dont see it in my router
[23:59] <teebsz> any advice or direction in automating Ubuntu Installs are welcome.
[23:59] <Jumpie> hey guys im trying to get the amd drivers for ubuntu, supposedly apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcccle but say sunable to lcoate package
[23:59] <Jumpie> is this a repo issue