| sergio-br2 | * it has | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| sergio-br2 | well, i'm not a developer... this things i told, it's a user perspective | 00:01 |
| sergio-br2 | *these | 00:01 |
| sergio-br2 | xnox, cdimage.ubuntu use MiB, but when you do the download, in thunar it uses MB... :D | 00:08 |
| sergio-br2 | 864 MiB --> 906 MB | 00:08 |
| xnox | sergio-br2: i think there is an openbug against apache, that in the directory listing it does indeed use the wrong units. | 00:08 |
| xnox | sergio-br2: unfortunately changing that, will break anything that is automatically parsing such generated listings =/ | 00:09 |
| sergio-br2 | * thunar not, nautilus | 00:09 |
| sergio-br2 | does light-locker use xscreensaver-data? | 00:56 |
| brainwash | sergio-br2: no | 01:06 |
| sergio-br2 | brainwash, so, there is no cool things to see in the screen? :) | 01:07 |
| brainwash | uhm, you either see a black screen or the light dm greeter | 01:07 |
| brainwash | pretty boring | 01:07 |
| brainwash | screensavers are old school | 01:08 |
| Noskcaj | brainwash, Still worth having | 01:08 |
| brainwash | yeah, so I'm waiting for the new version of xscreensaver :) | 01:09 |
| sergio-br2 | this apport is being very efficient... it is not reporting crashes... | 01:10 |
| brainwash | it's disabled I guess | 01:16 |
| sergio-br2 | canonical disable it in releases, not in alpha... or not? | 01:18 |
| brainwash | it gets activated during the alpha/beta phase I think | 01:19 |
| brainwash | so it might be still disabled | 01:19 |
| brainwash | people in #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-desktop might know | 01:20 |
| sergio-br2 | it's disable, i can see in /etc/apport/crashdb.conf | 01:25 |
| sergio-br2 | hey, there is no Guest Account in lightdm? | 02:00 |
| === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash | ||
| elfy | ochosi: any mileage to be gained by me disabling the nvidia card and using the onboard to see if I get this 1990s issue with that? | 08:26 |
| ali1234 | elfy: can you do a bootchart? | 08:40 |
| ali1234 | i might reveal, if things are starting in the wrong order | 08:40 |
| ali1234 | it has an option to keep running for a time after login | 08:41 |
| elfy | I can install that of course, though I'm not sure how it will help here | 08:41 |
| elfy | aaah - that would be why you think it will help and I dopn't then :p | 08:41 |
| ali1234 | you have a missing settings daemon | 08:41 |
| elfy | though this xchat issue could turn (and did with nvidia) turn up some hours after I've booted the machine | 08:42 |
| ali1234 | well if it is just xchat then i don't see how it can be video card related | 08:44 |
| elfy | me neither now that I've seen it with nvidia as well - previously I'd not | 08:45 |
| elfy | with nouveau it usually appears within 30 minutes | 08:45 |
| elfy | nvidia it was while I was at work - so at least 90minutes | 08:45 |
| elfy | ali1234: did you see the error I got in startxfce log? | 08:46 |
| ali1234 | no | 08:46 |
| elfy | http://pastebin.com/pP6bcJEK | 08:47 |
| elfy | get that at more or less the same time | 08:47 |
| ali1234 | that means 1. xfsettingsd crashed | 08:47 |
| ali1234 | and 2. it crashed because of something to o with multimonitor | 08:48 |
| ali1234 | BadRRCrtc -> RR = Xrandr, Crtc = "a monitor" basically | 08:48 |
| elfy | just done it now | 08:49 |
| ali1234 | so pretty much this means a monitor disappeared and that caused xfsettings to crash | 08:49 |
| elfy | right | 08:49 |
| elfy | I wonder if that's the tv plugged in | 08:50 |
| ali1234 | quite possibly, especially if it is HDMI | 08:50 |
| elfy | it is | 08:50 |
| elfy | ok - I'll unplug that and then monitor it again | 08:50 |
| ali1234 | TVs can do weird things | 08:51 |
| elfy | only use it to watch movies and not doing a lot of that atm anyway | 08:51 |
| ali1234 | with standby mode and so on, they can really confuse graphics cards | 08:51 |
| elfy | yep | 08:51 |
| elfy | cheap tesco's job this one is | 08:52 |
| ali1234 | it could be video card related too, since the video driver is the one watching for things being plugged/unplugged | 08:52 |
| elfy | unplugged it - I'll monitor that now | 08:52 |
| ali1234 | ultimately though xfsettings shouldn't crash | 08:52 |
| elfy | yea | 08:52 |
| elfy | I suppose this is all useful, though perhaps not xubuntu related | 08:53 |
| elfy | thanks ali1234 | 08:53 |
| ali1234 | the trouble with those X errors is they are asynchronous | 08:53 |
| ali1234 | so can be hard to pin down | 08:54 |
| elfy | yep | 08:55 |
| elfy | ochosi was just worried I think that it was 'us' with an issue - if it's not that'd great, means we can move on | 08:56 |
| ali1234 | yeah, it's probably not | 08:57 |
| ali1234 | it's a xfce issue | 08:57 |
| elfy | mmm | 08:58 |
| elfy | right - I gtg - back in a few | 08:58 |
| elfy | ali1234: forgot this bit of the xchat story when I was talking to you earlier - it only started after I installed the gtk3 ind stuff | 11:23 |
| elfy | so thinking about it - it is something to do with us perhaps | 12:03 |
| brainwash | or an update which came in the same time frame | 12:06 |
| brainwash | like the gtk 3.10 one | 12:06 |
| elfy | possibly | 12:07 |
| elfy | losing the will to live here | 12:08 |
| elfy | all I know is that xchat dies and as I use it constantly - if we ship with it like this then we'll be in the wonderful position of having the QA lead using some other xfce distro | 12:08 |
| elfy | all I'm able to do unfortunately is report on it and do what people ask me to test different things | 12:09 |
| brainwash | currently there are so many little glitches and annoyances in trusty :/ | 12:23 |
| brainwash | on top of that, almost all of our new features and packages are still not available (only via PPA) | 12:23 |
| elfy | well I'm not noticing that many tbh - just this xchat thing - which I notice rather a lot :D | 12:24 |
| brainwash | use a terminal based IRC client and profit :) | 12:24 |
| elfy | yep - hopefully after xmas we'll be able to get a lot of this stuff in properly - or it will be too late to | 12:24 |
| elfy | brainwash: I hate them - hence forestpiskie being away and just logging for me when I'm not here ;) | 12:25 |
| elfy | brainwash: not even sure at the moment how many things there are ticking away on PPAs lol | 12:31 |
| elfy | hi GridCube | 12:47 |
| GridCube | hi elfy | 12:58 |
| GridCube | :) | 12:58 |
| elfy | hi DanChapman | 14:47 |
| DanChapman | heya elfy :-) how are you? | 14:48 |
| elfy | dry | 14:48 |
| elfy | :) | 14:48 |
| sergio-br2 | elfy, my indicator panel went transparency | 14:54 |
| sergio-br2 | *transparent | 14:54 |
| elfy | so does mine from time to time | 14:55 |
| elfy | it's a known issue | 14:55 |
| sergio-br2 | i have the apport info, do you care? | 14:55 |
| elfy | you can keep it there and see if ochosi wants it | 14:55 |
| elfy | but I think that they're on top of that issue | 14:56 |
| elfy | or at least don't want reports about it at present | 14:56 |
| sergio-br2 | there is other issue, if i disable and enable bluetooth from the old indicator, the news indicator close | 14:57 |
| elfy | sergio-br2: did you read the trusty wiki for these gtk3 indicators? | 14:57 |
| sergio-br2 | yeah | 14:58 |
| sergio-br2 | there are 4 issues | 14:58 |
| sergio-br2 | 3 now | 14:59 |
| elfy | did you add the workaround to /etc/environment? | 14:59 |
| elfy | but to be honest - I don't know | 14:59 |
| elfy | report it if you want - though apport will complain that it's not an official package - which it isn't | 15:00 |
| sergio-br2 | i didn't add the /etc/environment workaround | 15:02 |
| sergio-br2 | ok, i will see this | 15:02 |
| elfy | ok | 15:04 |
| elfy | cya | 15:04 |
| brainwash | workaround: turn off the compositor and the transparent indicator area will turn black :) | 15:09 |
| * elfy would make the whole panel transparent :p | 15:19 | |
| sergio-br2 | hi | 23:11 |
| Noskcaj | lderan, PING. I've made a few basic autopilot tests, an incomplete gthumb one that tests a bit more. Would you be able to help me with debugging the gthumb one? | 23:55 |
| Noskcaj | Also, the only xubuntu packages i've found that support introspection are catfish and simple-scan | 23:55 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!