| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| MartijnVdS | nice bit of history: http://spinellis.gr/blog/20131211/ | 07:47 |
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| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 09:12 |
| AlanBell | morning bigcalm | 10:20 |
| MartijnVdS | \o | 10:28 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone. | 10:43 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| bigcalm | Morning morning | 11:24 |
| brobostigon | morning bigcalm | 11:24 |
| * MartijnVdS is a bit tired | 11:25 | |
| MartijnVdS | did a 15km run earlier | 11:25 |
| brobostigon | wow. | 11:25 |
| MartijnVdS | brobostigon: practicing for the 20km run in early March :) | 11:25 |
| bigcalm | Got my whole office sorted out. 2 servers, my workstation, modem and router are now on UPS. Everything is _clean_. And I managed to free up 3 mains sockets! | 11:25 |
| brobostigon | MartijnVdS: good luck, :) | 11:25 |
| MartijnVdS | bigcalm: More free sockets \o/ | 11:26 |
| bigcalm | MartijnVdS: I don't know what I'll do with those free sockets now though | 11:26 |
| MartijnVdS | bigcalm: guard them. Make sure they're only used in emergencies | 11:30 |
| bigcalm | I'm a little confused by the spec of my UPS. It's listed as providing 2.4 minutes under half load. Yet this tells me otherwise: http://proliant/ups/ | 11:30 |
| MartijnVdS | that URL won't work for us | 11:31 |
| bigcalm | MartijnVdS: I shall print labels for that reason | 11:31 |
| bigcalm | Good point ;) | 11:31 |
| bigcalm | http://discworld.cuth.eu/ups/ | 11:31 |
| bigcalm | There you go | 11:31 |
| MartijnVdS | the best way to determine runtime under load is to pull the plug and get a stop watch | 11:31 |
| MartijnVdS | battery.runtime.low:120 | 11:31 |
| MartijnVdS | so it'll run for 2 minutes when the battery has gone bad | 11:32 |
| * bigcalm scratches his head | 11:32 | |
| MartijnVdS | or worst-case anyway | 11:32 |
| bigcalm | I see | 11:32 |
| bigcalm | So the specs on the website/box are for that worst-case | 11:33 |
| * bigcalm nods | 11:33 | |
| bigcalm | I'm pleased that any UPS alarms that are broadcast to the server are also broadcast on my workstation | 11:33 |
| bigcalm | Time to throw the power to see what happens :) | 11:34 |
| bigcalm | It's on battery! woop | 11:34 |
| MartijnVdS | Get it to broadcast it to an android app too, using the built-in cloud messaging bits | 11:35 |
| bigcalm | That's odd. The load has dropped to 37% | 11:35 |
| MartijnVdS | bigcalm: why? maybe your machine throttles when it detects UPS-on-battery? | 11:36 |
| MartijnVdS | disk shutdown, etc. | 11:36 |
| bigcalm | Maybe so! | 11:36 |
| MartijnVdS | laptop-mode 8-) | 11:36 |
| bigcalm | I didn't hear any change in noise though | 11:36 |
| MartijnVdS | maybe the measurements were off somehow? | 11:37 |
| bigcalm | Maybe | 11:37 |
| bigcalm | Tum te tum | 11:39 |
| bigcalm | Wish I knew how to show the battery icon on my workstation though | 11:40 |
| bigcalm | shutdown! | 11:41 |
| MartijnVdS | that's more than 2 minutes | 11:41 |
| bigcalm | Ug | 11:45 |
| bigcalm | 11:34 -> 11:41 | 11:46 |
| bigcalm | Not too bad I guess | 11:46 |
| bigcalm | Only problem is I forgot to let the Windows server know that it's on an UPS | 11:46 |
| bigcalm | Ubuntu server and Ubuntu workstation both shut down correctly | 11:47 |
| bigcalm | Windows server just lost power :) | 11:47 |
| bigcalm | I wonder if there is a Windows client for nut | 11:48 |
| bigcalm | Ooo, there be | 11:48 |
| popey | Afternoon. | 12:14 |
| bigcalm | Howdy | 12:14 |
| arc__ | Hey what ubuntu/linux distro is good for a idiot friendly home server | 16:02 |
| Azelphur | arc__: ubuntu server edition | 16:03 |
| arc__ | Ok good start but onw that has a easy to use ui | 16:04 |
| ali1234 | if you partition an SSD, does it cause extra write amplification? | 16:07 |
| bigcalm | Afternoon moreati | 16:11 |
| penguin42 | ali1234: I think the trick is to ensure the partitions are suitably aligned | 16:11 |
| ali1234 | also, is a swap partition still necesary for suspend etc? | 16:11 |
| moreati | bigcalm: lo | 16:12 |
| penguin42 | ali1234: If you get it wrong then you can end up with blocks on the filesystem split across multiple blocks of flash | 16:12 |
| ali1234 | how do i ensure that the partitions are correctly aligned using the ubuntu installer? | 16:12 |
| penguin42 | now that I don't know | 16:13 |
| * bigcalm gives up, gah | 16:23 | |
| ali1234 | hmmmmm... do i want a gpt or msdos partition table? | 16:43 |
| penguin42 | ali1234: Size of disk? | 16:43 |
| ali1234 | 120GB SSD | 16:43 |
| penguin42 | dos is fine, personally I'd create a /boot and a single 2nd partition which I'd then lvm | 16:44 |
| ali1234 | why separate boot? | 16:44 |
| penguin42 | hmm I think grub might actually be able to live on an lvm partition these days - but not sure | 16:44 |
| ali1234 | and why lvm for that matter? | 16:45 |
| ali1234 | this is a brand new haswell UEFI system... | 16:46 |
| ali1234 | i would like to avoid any legacy nonsense, if at all possible | 16:46 |
| ali1234 | (msdos partition table that is) | 16:46 |
| penguin42 | oh if it's UEFI I think that might be best with GPT but I think it requires a FAT partition to hold the UEFI magic bits but can't rmember the details | 16:47 |
| ali1234 | hmm this looks hard | 16:48 |
| ali1234 | i might just do a legacy install then :/ | 16:49 |
| ali1234 | i suppose i could just let the installer do whatever it wants and see what happens | 16:49 |
| ali1234 | i'm gonna try it | 16:50 |
| ali1234 | i can always start over | 16:50 |
| daftykins | ali1234: haswell setup, is that an early christmas present to yourself? :) | 17:11 |
| ali1234 | no it's for my dad | 17:11 |
| daftykins | ah | 17:12 |
| daftykins | is it on the way with a legacy install now? | 17:12 |
| ali1234 | i dunno | 17:13 |
| ali1234 | i just told the installer to do everything automatic | 17:13 |
| ali1234 | then i'll see what happened | 17:13 |
| daftykins | ah right | 17:13 |
| daftykins | yeah i can't say i have a clue how to check for partition alignment | 17:13 |
| daftykins | that's even true of my greater knowledge in Windows land - where all i know is you need SP1'd media of 7 to partition SSDs properly to the 4K alignment | 17:14 |
| daftykins | well, and advanced format HDDs | 17:14 |
| daftykins | but no idea how to graphically confirm it | 17:14 |
| ali1234 | well it boots very very fast so that's good | 17:16 |
| ali1234 | like 4 seconds | 17:16 |
| ali1234 | it made a gpt | 17:18 |
| daftykins | yeah must've booted in EFI mode then | 17:18 |
| ali1234 | i went a bit ott with this system... it has SSD, 8GB and i5 CPU | 17:19 |
| ali1234 | my dad only checks his email and internet banking so he's getting ubuntu. don't need windows for that | 17:19 |
| ali1234 | it's hilariously fast though. faster than my computer | 17:20 |
| daftykins | hehehe | 17:22 |
| daftykins | if i were you i'd have planned it as an upgrade :) | 17:23 |
| daftykins | which i5 is it? | 17:23 |
| ali1234 | 3.1GHz | 17:23 |
| ali1234 | i think it's 4440 or something | 17:23 |
| daftykins | ah yeah, £140 odd | 17:23 |
| ali1234 | yeah, i5-4440 | 17:23 |
| ali1234 | how do i get rid of just the commercial results in the dash, just for one user? | 19:20 |
| MartijnVdS | ali1234: in "Settings" there's "Privacy" | 19:20 |
| ali1234 | that disables all online results completely | 19:20 |
| MartijnVdS | ... yes? | 19:21 |
| MartijnVdS | isn't that what the commercial ones are? | 19:21 |
| ali1234 | i only want to hide the amazon and U1 music ones | 19:21 |
| MartijnVdS | only by removing the packages I guess.. so system-wide | 19:21 |
| AlanBell | open the dash, go to the apps page at the bottom | 19:21 |
| ali1234 | i want weather, wikipedia etc to still work | 19:21 |
| * MartijnVdS never uses the dash | 19:21 | |
| MartijnVdS | just Alt+F2 | 19:21 |
| ali1234 | AlanBell: then what? | 19:21 |
| AlanBell | scroll down, you can click any of the dash plugins and then disable them | 19:22 |
| ali1234 | which one is the apps page? | 19:22 |
| ali1234 | the "A" thing? | 19:22 |
| AlanBell | yeah, however I can't see the shopping one :/ | 19:22 |
| ali1234 | how do you go back in the dash? | 19:23 |
| AlanBell | ah, because I had all online ones turned off | 19:23 |
| AlanBell | there is an amazon option, which you can individually disable | 19:24 |
| ali1234 | yeah i found it | 19:24 |
| ali1234 | thanks | 19:24 |
| AlanBell | this is in saucy and above | 19:24 |
| ali1234 | there's an awful lot of these and there is no way to quickly disable a whole load of them | 19:27 |
| ali1234 | quite annoying really | 19:27 |
| ali1234 | i guess i'll just disable all online stuff | 19:27 |
| ali1234 | and so much for this being a smart search | 19:29 |
| ali1234 | no matter what i type, at least 10 different people have made a song named that, apparently | 19:29 |
| MartijnVdS | asdsdfsdfa? | 19:31 |
| ali1234 | yes, exactly 10 hits for that | 19:33 |
| daftykins | XD | 19:35 |
| ali1234 | the trouble with this is, all the results are completely random and not what i want | 19:36 |
| daftykins | what are you after? | 19:36 |
| MartijnVdS | daftykins: "No commercial search providers for only one user, but not disabling other online sources like wikipedia" | 19:37 |
| MartijnVdS | http://azac.pl/cobol-on-wheelchair/ | 19:40 |
| ali1234 | these fans i bought have a "low speed adapter" which is just an inline resistor | 23:02 |
| ali1234 | the fans are rated 3A, but this appears to be a 2W resistor. i don't see how that is even remotely safe... | 23:03 |
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