=== Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [07:47] nice bit of history: http://spinellis.gr/blog/20131211/ [09:12] Good morning peeps :) [10:20] morning bigcalm [10:28] \o [10:43] good morning everyone. === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [11:24] Morning morning [11:24] morning bigcalm [11:25] * MartijnVdS is a bit tired [11:25] did a 15km run earlier [11:25] wow. [11:25] brobostigon: practicing for the 20km run in early March :) [11:25] Got my whole office sorted out. 2 servers, my workstation, modem and router are now on UPS. Everything is _clean_. And I managed to free up 3 mains sockets! [11:25] MartijnVdS: good luck, :) [11:26] bigcalm: More free sockets \o/ [11:26] MartijnVdS: I don't know what I'll do with those free sockets now though [11:30] bigcalm: guard them. Make sure they're only used in emergencies [11:30] I'm a little confused by the spec of my UPS. It's listed as providing 2.4 minutes under half load. Yet this tells me otherwise: http://proliant/ups/ [11:31] that URL won't work for us [11:31] MartijnVdS: I shall print labels for that reason [11:31] Good point ;) [11:31] http://discworld.cuth.eu/ups/ [11:31] There you go [11:31] the best way to determine runtime under load is to pull the plug and get a stop watch [11:31] battery.runtime.low : 120 [11:32] so it'll run for 2 minutes when the battery has gone bad [11:32] * bigcalm scratches his head [11:32] or worst-case anyway [11:32] I see [11:33] So the specs on the website/box are for that worst-case [11:33] * bigcalm nods [11:33] I'm pleased that any UPS alarms that are broadcast to the server are also broadcast on my workstation [11:34] Time to throw the power to see what happens :) [11:34] It's on battery! woop [11:35] Get it to broadcast it to an android app too, using the built-in cloud messaging bits [11:35] That's odd. The load has dropped to 37% [11:36] bigcalm: why? maybe your machine throttles when it detects UPS-on-battery? [11:36] disk shutdown, etc. [11:36] Maybe so! [11:36] laptop-mode 8-) [11:36] I didn't hear any change in noise though [11:37] maybe the measurements were off somehow? [11:37] Maybe [11:39] Tum te tum [11:40] Wish I knew how to show the battery icon on my workstation though [11:41] shutdown! [11:41] that's more than 2 minutes [11:45] Ug [11:46] 11:34 -> 11:41 [11:46] Not too bad I guess [11:46] Only problem is I forgot to let the Windows server know that it's on an UPS [11:47] Ubuntu server and Ubuntu workstation both shut down correctly [11:47] Windows server just lost power :) [11:48] I wonder if there is a Windows client for nut [11:48] Ooo, there be [12:14] Afternoon. [12:14] Howdy [16:02] Hey what ubuntu/linux distro is good for a idiot friendly home server [16:03] arc__: ubuntu server edition [16:04] Ok good start but onw that has a easy to use ui [16:07] if you partition an SSD, does it cause extra write amplification? [16:11] Afternoon moreati [16:11] ali1234: I think the trick is to ensure the partitions are suitably aligned [16:11] also, is a swap partition still necesary for suspend etc? [16:12] bigcalm: lo [16:12] ali1234: If you get it wrong then you can end up with blocks on the filesystem split across multiple blocks of flash [16:12] how do i ensure that the partitions are correctly aligned using the ubuntu installer? [16:13] now that I don't know [16:23] * bigcalm gives up, gah [16:43] hmmmmm... do i want a gpt or msdos partition table? [16:43] ali1234: Size of disk? [16:43] 120GB SSD [16:44] dos is fine, personally I'd create a /boot and a single 2nd partition which I'd then lvm [16:44] why separate boot? [16:44] hmm I think grub might actually be able to live on an lvm partition these days - but not sure [16:45] and why lvm for that matter? [16:46] this is a brand new haswell UEFI system... [16:46] i would like to avoid any legacy nonsense, if at all possible [16:46] (msdos partition table that is) [16:47] oh if it's UEFI I think that might be best with GPT but I think it requires a FAT partition to hold the UEFI magic bits but can't rmember the details [16:48] hmm this looks hard [16:49] i might just do a legacy install then :/ [16:49] i suppose i could just let the installer do whatever it wants and see what happens [16:50] i'm gonna try it [16:50] i can always start over [17:11] ali1234: haswell setup, is that an early christmas present to yourself? :) [17:11] no it's for my dad [17:12] ah [17:12] is it on the way with a legacy install now? [17:13] i dunno [17:13] i just told the installer to do everything automatic [17:13] then i'll see what happened [17:13] ah right [17:13] yeah i can't say i have a clue how to check for partition alignment [17:14] that's even true of my greater knowledge in Windows land - where all i know is you need SP1'd media of 7 to partition SSDs properly to the 4K alignment [17:14] well, and advanced format HDDs [17:14] but no idea how to graphically confirm it [17:16] well it boots very very fast so that's good [17:16] like 4 seconds [17:18] it made a gpt [17:18] yeah must've booted in EFI mode then [17:19] i went a bit ott with this system... it has SSD, 8GB and i5 CPU [17:19] my dad only checks his email and internet banking so he's getting ubuntu. don't need windows for that [17:20] it's hilariously fast though. faster than my computer [17:22] hehehe [17:23] if i were you i'd have planned it as an upgrade :) [17:23] which i5 is it? [17:23] 3.1GHz [17:23] i think it's 4440 or something [17:23] ah yeah, £140 odd [17:23] yeah, i5-4440 [19:20] how do i get rid of just the commercial results in the dash, just for one user? [19:20] ali1234: in "Settings" there's "Privacy" [19:20] that disables all online results completely [19:21] ... yes? [19:21] isn't that what the commercial ones are? [19:21] i only want to hide the amazon and U1 music ones [19:21] only by removing the packages I guess.. so system-wide [19:21] open the dash, go to the apps page at the bottom [19:21] i want weather, wikipedia etc to still work [19:21] * MartijnVdS never uses the dash [19:21] just Alt+F2 [19:21] AlanBell: then what? [19:22] scroll down, you can click any of the dash plugins and then disable them [19:22] which one is the apps page? [19:22] the "A" thing? [19:22] yeah, however I can't see the shopping one :/ [19:23] how do you go back in the dash? [19:23] ah, because I had all online ones turned off [19:24] there is an amazon option, which you can individually disable [19:24] yeah i found it [19:24] thanks [19:24] this is in saucy and above [19:27] there's an awful lot of these and there is no way to quickly disable a whole load of them [19:27] quite annoying really [19:27] i guess i'll just disable all online stuff [19:29] and so much for this being a smart search [19:29] no matter what i type, at least 10 different people have made a song named that, apparently [19:31] asdsdfsdfa? [19:33] yes, exactly 10 hits for that [19:35] XD [19:36] the trouble with this is, all the results are completely random and not what i want [19:36] what are you after? [19:37] daftykins: "No commercial search providers for only one user, but not disabling other online sources like wikipedia" [19:40] http://azac.pl/cobol-on-wheelchair/ [23:02] these fans i bought have a "low speed adapter" which is just an inline resistor [23:03] the fans are rated 3A, but this appears to be a 2W resistor. i don't see how that is even remotely safe...