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helpmeplease2do I have to enable network inorder to get a repo?00:01
helpmeplease2fgrom the recovery mode00:01
daftykinshelpmeplease2: yes repositories are online00:01
greylurkYes, unless it's a repo on your CD-ROM.00:01
helpmeplease2how do I get back to recovery from network?00:02
Jumpieanybody00:02
bekks!amd | Jumpie00:03
bekkshmm.00:03
kostkon!fglrx00:04
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto00:04
SrRavenso how would I access ubuntu via ssh ?00:05
helpmeplease2how do you connect to a network in the terminal00:05
SrRavenit wont let me do it via ssh on standard port00:05
* Nicekiwi hates Ubuntu #segmentationFaultBalls00:06
Jumpieim following that kostkon00:06
Jumpiemy point is fglrx is not found/recognized00:06
Jumpiei even added another repo, no dice00:06
atma111I have a problem restart squid3: "start: job failed to start"00:07
bekksatma111: Did you change the config of squid3?00:07
Nicekiwihelpmeplease2, which network?00:08
helpmeplease2I dont know, when I tried to install the drivers it says I was not connected00:08
Jumpiealso, why the hell is the linux catalyst beta drivers on ati's website in a ZIP format?00:09
bekksJumpie: Ask AMD. :)00:09
bekksErr, ATI.00:09
Jumpiewell i still cant seem to get fglrx00:09
Jumpieunable to locate package00:10
SrRavenyeah it wont let me log in and I have no idea how to boot with normal graphics and not the nvidia ones00:10
jhutchinsSrRaven: Single user or rescue mode.00:12
SrRavenI tried rescue mode00:12
kostkonJumpie, ok00:12
helpmeplease2nicekiki, when I tried the first command it says cannot access PPA00:12
helpmeplease2nicekiwi*00:13
Nicekiwihelpmeplease2, are you running over wifi or ethernet?00:14
helpmeplease2wifi00:14
* Nicekiwi facepalm00:14
Nicekiwihelpmeplease2, can you connect with ethernet00:14
jjavaholichow would you add image metadata en-mass?00:14
helpmeplease2Would that fix it?00:14
bekksjjavaholic: Depends on the metadata and where to add it.00:14
Nicekiwihelpmeplease2, it should connect automatticly under ideal conditions in that case00:15
jjavaholica who, what, when tag and tag value pairs00:15
helpmeplease2okay trying it with ethernet00:15
bekksjjavaholic: Where and how is that metadata stored?00:15
SrRavenwhen I do the failsafe graphics mode I always get stuck at "mountall : fsck /boot/efi [708] terminated with status 1+00:15
jjavaholicjpegs00:16
jjavaholicexif I think00:16
LuckyWillyHowdy all, curious if anyone could figure this out. I believe Ubuntu deleted my Downloads folder and I had contents within it. Though I am trying to see how I can recover the previous Downloads folder as it made a new one automatically with nothing inside it.00:17
DannyButtermanPlease someone, how can I revert a driver to a previous working version ? I need working nvidia-304 drivers... please00:17
eoouse synaptic00:18
bekksDannyButterman: Reinstall it.00:19
jjavaholicis that what you meant how and where the metadata was stored00:19
Jumpiecan seombody PLEASE help me with installing catalyst drivers00:19
jjavaholicmanual entry00:19
jhutchinsjjavaholic: I think imagemagic might be able to batch that.00:19
bekksjjavaholic: If the metadata is already stored in the pictures -what do you want to edit?00:19
friedl_fglrx00:19
Jumpiei cant install or find fglrx00:20
Jumpiesays not found00:20
Jumpieeven following doc exactly00:20
friedl_AMD00:20
Jumpiei have a pet peeve of docs that dont follow correctly00:20
DannyButtermanbekks : I've reinstalled it three or for times so far00:21
Jumpieand when i get the zip file from amd's site...its 40k if i wget it...but if i do it on my windows desktop its 153mb00:21
Jumpiesomething is wrong00:21
jjavaholicI want to add who, what, when tags and manually enter the who, what and when for the photo00:21
Jumpieyou guys are useless ..bye00:21
daftykinscan't please everyone (:00:22
friedl_useless yourself ...00:22
jjavaholicI would be fine with en mass creating initially empty who, what, when tags to begin with00:22
eoodaftykins:whats up00:22
jjavaholicdid you mean imagemagik?00:22
daftykinseoo: see above.00:23
eoodaftykins: i cant00:23
daftykinseoo: just the ragequitting help-ee, nevermind.00:25
bekksjjavaholic: exiftool will do that job, it is scriptable.00:25
jjavaholiccould you point me in the direction of a good source for it's usefulness?00:26
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bekksjjavaholic: exiftools provide cli utilities for exif manipulation.00:28
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quinn_alright can someone help me with a sound issue I have been having?00:30
bekksquinn_: just ask... :)00:31
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quinn_well I just upgraded to 13.10 and I don't think my sound card is being recognized00:32
quinn_When I go into sound settings all I have is the "Dummy Output" option00:33
recon_lapis the ubuntu phone any good? is there a channel for it?00:35
kostkon!touch | recon_lap00:35
ubotturecon_lap: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch00:35
tuthatrecon_lap depends on what you want00:36
tuthatand how you define good00:36
uBUXUBuquinn; i hate that when that happens...00:36
quinn_Do you guys think you can help?00:36
uBUXUBuupdates may take care of it quinn00:36
quinn_Alright I'll check to see if any updates are availible00:37
uBUXUBuhow long ago did u do the update quinn?00:37
zykotick9quinn_: do you see your card listed in "cat /proc/asound/cards"?00:37
recon_lapwell, not really to sure what good means for me either :) thx for pointing me to the right channel , I'll show my ignorance off there :)00:37
karab44hello00:38
quinn_zykotick9: No there are no soundcards listed there00:38
karab44How to focus all shortkeys on app?00:38
zykotick9quinn_: not a good sign.  means alsa/kernel isn't seeing your sound card?  i have no idea, good luck!00:39
karab44I mean ubuntu forces it's shortkeys but I want focused app to have priority to use them.00:39
uBUXUBui wont upgrade off 1204 until they force me00:39
quinn_That's exactly what I was using this morning and there were no issues!00:39
bekksuBUXUBu: In 2017 :)00:39
quinn_I am regretting the upgrade00:39
uBUXUBudo u have your stuff backed up quinn_?00:40
quinn_Yep m files are backed up00:40
Beldarquinn_, any earlier kernels in the grub menu?00:40
uBUXUBuwell ill be t u know what to do now hehe00:40
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quinn_Beldar: how would I go about checking that?00:41
uBUXUButhey are on the boot screen00:41
Beldarquinn_, If you are not see grub hold down the shift just after you [power on and use the arrow up and down to navigate the grub menu.00:42
karab44I want to use shortkeys in my app but instead of that Ubuntu does some magic. How to inactivate system shortkeys on particular app?00:42
Beldarquinn_, You canm look in the boot file for kernels as well with out a reboot.00:44
uBUXUButhey always nail the lts and then biff the lil short timers....00:46
teebszHow do you automate Ubuntu Installs completely. Any good Kickstart/ubuntu.seed tutorials?00:46
teebsz>.>00:47
quinn_beldar: alright so what should these kernels look like in boot/grub/ ?00:47
bekksteebsz: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html00:47
teebszhmm love the Official Docs00:48
bekksteebsz: I found it as the first result ;)00:48
Beldarquinn_ initrd.img with different kernel versions00:48
teebszWell I've been using that already00:48
teebszThat and several other sources from various blogs.00:49
Beldarquinn_, not in boot/grub just boot00:49
quinn_Oh I see there are plenty of files with initrd.img00:50
quinn_should I paste?00:50
Beldarquinn_, Just a easy check if you have more than one set is all, they should be in the grub menu run a sudo update-grub before rebooting to try any for sound.00:51
quinn_Beldar: alrigh I just updated Grub should I go in for a rebbot?00:53
recon_laphmm, found a article called rip-ubuntu-edge , guess that answers my question :)00:54
Beldarquinn_, So you understand that we are just trying different kernels sets that will be in the grub menu to see if you do get any sound. And how to get there?00:54
quinn_Beldar: yes I get what I am trying to do here I will go ahead and do it now00:55
Beldarcool00:56
quinn_so you said just hold shift on the boot screen to open Grub?00:56
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Beldarquinn_, hold down the shift within a second of hitting the power button, the bios flash is generally where you see key prompts for the per-seesion boot or the bios.00:57
Beldarnot after the bios flash00:57
quinn_Okay I'll see what i can do I'll probably be back in a little bit to see if it worked00:58
Beldarquinn_, This is not a fix just a check, sounds are not really my area of knowledge.00:59
UserErrorDoes anyone know if anyone releases linktimeoptimized, sandybridge+ optimized/removal x86_64 ubuntu kernels?01:00
Guest50470vlad_starkov, ты можешь показать как на русский канал поддержки попасть?01:05
compdocenglish01:06
Guest50470что инглишь01:06
recon_laprus?01:06
Guest50470yes, rus please01:06
compdocvlad_starkov has left, in any case01:06
Beldar!ru | Guest5047001:07
ubottuGuest50470: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.01:07
Guest50470дело в том что оно не входит  в тот канал, понимаете?01:07
Guest50470 /join #ubuntu-ru01:07
Guest50470??01:07
Guest50470dd01:08
recon_lapno space01:08
recon_lapGuest50470: "/join #ubuntu-ru" not " /join #ubuntu-ru"01:08
moomoocowcowWhere does Ubuntu store user installed fonts? I've looked in all the locations defined in /etc/fonts/fonts.conf and I can't find the ones I installed myself (and this includes ~/.fonts)01:09
Guest50470Я ТАМ САМ01:10
Guest50470(.01:10
Guest50470ubottu, этого канала не существует, спасибо :(01:10
windowslover556guys01:12
windowslover556do you even uid001:12
windowslover556iis > apache01:12
moomoocowcowSeriously, it's mental. I can't uninstall a font as I can't find the font file, and neither can font-manager.01:13
windowslover556in which case, use a real OS like Windows01:13
recon_lapwindowslover556: learn how to use a computer :P01:14
xanguamoondoggy: how about usr/share/fonts ?01:14
moomoocowcowxangua: no, not in usr/share/fonts nor in /usr/local/share/fonts nor in ~/.fonts01:14
moomoocowcowxangua: the system ones are there, but not the user installed onems01:14
Guest50470ясно, мне просто стоит писать по-английски.01:15
windowslover556I do, Windows 8 has totally revolutionised the way I use my computer (read: idiotically)01:15
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compdocI never could read that well01:15
Guest50470please driver graphics video intel01:15
windowslover556please english words no russia01:16
Guest50470ouu01:16
compdocIm oretty sure that was english01:16
compdoc*pretty01:16
windowslover556brb, going to toss myself off over my new start button01:17
moomoocowcowfound the stupid fonts: ~/.local/share/fonts01:22
moomoocowcowi should submit a bug report for fontmanager or something01:22
eziowhy can't i mount a fat usb01:23
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eziowhy can't i mount vfat01:25
Sander^lapuit01:25
ezioi don't have mount.vfat01:25
GerowenWhat would be a reasonable budget graphics card for use in some moderate gaming (games like Portal) for Ubuntu 13.10?  Since the newer version of X11 was added in I believe Ubuntu 12.10, my ATI Radeon HD 4200 is no longer supported by the proprietary drivers from ATI for the newer version of X11, and the open source drivers just aren't cutting it.  Portal at 640x480 with all settings on low gives me about 20 fps with the open so01:26
Gerowenurce drivers.01:26
d3buganyone have any idea why mount.ntfs would be running even with no ntfs volumes present?  (13.10)01:26
d3bugwow, soo many people talking at once...01:31
tcas1quit01:35
tcas1exit01:35
siwicaWhen watching video on Youtube on fullscreen, switching workspace and switching back to the original workspace it is not on full screen any more. How do I make it to stay on fullscreen?01:37
jswagnersiwica: i think that is a flash limitation, because it happens to me on other DEs01:37
siwicajswagner: ok, maybe01:41
wllhckola tem alguem que fala portugues aqui01:45
wllhck?01:45
xangua!pt | wllhck01:46
ubottuwllhck: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.01:46
KalelGreetings. I need the moodin plugin. Is there a way to get it?01:49
xangua!find moodin01:51
ubottuPackage/file moodin does not exist in saucy01:51
jeffrey_f@jeffrey_f01:51
Akarin-desuI have an issue with install Ubuntu.01:52
Akarin-desuIt keeps rebooting before it even get to the installation.01:52
Beldar!md5sum | Akarin-desu01:54
ubottuAkarin-desu: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows01:54
Akarin-desuThe ISO is fine.01:54
BeldarAkarin-desu, Than give some details01:55
Akarin-desuIt's consistant no matter what OS I try to install.01:55
Akarin-desuI've tried it in Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Debian. Even W7/801:55
atma111pls need help squid3 error http://paste.ubuntu.com/6614765/01:55
Akarin-desuI tried changing the installation media from a flash drive to a physical Disk, with the same results.01:55
Akarin-desuI changed the AHCI and EFI settings in BIOs, and doesn't work.01:55
Akarin-desuI've reflashed the BIOS. This doesn't work.01:56
Akarin-desuI've reapplied thermal paste to the processor. That didn't work.01:56
Akarin-desuI formatted the drive using KillDisk with 2 passes. That didn't work.01:56
Akarin-desuI've tested the RAM and HDD using Hiren's. They're fine.01:56
Akarin-desuI swapped out the HDD from my primary laptop to the one that I'm working on. It boots just fine, but blue screens and reboots in a couple of minutes, probably due to driver issues.01:56
BeldarAkarin-desu, YOu make a partitio table?01:56
Akarin-desuIt's stable in a Live Boot environment, such as Hiren's and KillDisk, it even stayed on overnight as it was formatted the drive and performing diagnostics work.01:56
spjtHas anyone bought that laptop off ubuntu.com?01:56
Akarin-desuI let the OS handle the partition tables. It was a freshly formatted drive.01:57
Akarin-desuI've Googled and Googled and Googled the issue, and all of them swear up and down that it's either a memory issue, or an issue with the power supply.01:57
Akarin-desuThe battery seems to be fine, it holds and charge, but I don't know how to test it in a Live Boot.01:57
Akarin-desuI disassembled the entire laptop and looked for brown spots on the mobo. I found on by the Wifi on/off toggle, but I scraped it off, and it looked fine afterwards.01:57
BeldarAkarin-desu, You have to make a table.01:57
Akarin-desuI've formatted it in Hiren's afterthe format to NTFS or ext3 when I try to install Windows or Ubuntu, respectively.01:58
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douglso is my iphone ever gonna work with ubuntu - I keep reading/experiencing conflicting information?01:59
BeldarAkarin-desu, hirens is not needed, we can only assume its done it correctly all the stock install OS's have partition building.02:00
Akarin-desuBut why wouldn't it work regardless of what OS I'm installing? I know that Windows can format it's own partition table just fine. I know that Ubuntu can as well. I tried it once in Hiren's just to see fi that was the issue.02:01
BeldarAkarin-desu, This a uefi computer?02:01
Akarin-desuYes, but it can change modes to BIOS if needed.02:02
xanguadougl: if by work you mean mount, since ubuntu 10.04 is supported but then apple releases an update that makes their devices even more harder to use without apple software and the history goes on and repeats since every new ubuntu/ios release02:02
douglxangua, as I suspected... thank you for your time :)02:03
psusiAkarin-desu, sounds like it is overheating02:03
BeldarAkarin-desu, Sure however if you had a gpt partition table, and now have a msdos, there may be remnants of that gpt that cause trouble.02:04
douglxangua, is not a big deal to use the mac atleast I don't have to resort to windows.02:04
Akarin-desuI thought so too, but I reapplied thermal paste and cleaned out the fan to the exhaust.02:04
psusiAkarin-desu, on the livecd, try installing lm-sensors and running the sensors command, see if you get a temperature reading02:04
Akarin-desuI can't even get to a shell.02:04
BeldarAkarin-desu, There is an app that will run a script to show thoughs.02:04
Akarin-desuIf I try to move past the splash screen, then it reboots.02:05
Guest29875can someone repeat my name?02:05
psusiAkarin-desu, try running the memtest?02:05
Beldarwe see you02:05
Akarin-desuYeah, memtest shows no errors.02:05
psusiAkarin-desu, how long did you let it run for?02:05
Akarin-desuthe HDD test said the drive is fine.02:05
Akarin-desupsusi: 1 pass.02:05
psusiAkarin-desu, let it run for at least half an hour02:06
Akarin-desuIt takes 40 minues to a single pass.02:06
psusiahh, ok02:06
Guest29875Akarin-desu, your harddrive gona unexpectly02:06
Guest29875Akarin-desu, your harddrive gona unexpectly i just gave you your only warning02:06
Akarin-desu?02:06
psusiGuest29875, that didn't make sense02:07
psusiAkarin-desu, so the memtest and check cd boot options work, but wen you try to just run the live system, it hard reboots before you get a desktop?02:07
qwertyhalp!02:08
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Akarin-desuI can run a live system fine. Hiren's runs just fine, it even stayed on all night while it was formatting.02:08
Akarin-desuKillDisk successfully formatted the entire drive twice.02:09
psusiAkarin-desu, I mean the Ubuntu live session02:09
Akarin-desuOh, I can't get into a live session. I can't get past the initial splahs screen.02:09
psusii.e. the "Try Ubuntu" boot option, not Install02:09
Guest13463question, if I only gave my system reserve 100mb and now need that space to be larger, is there anything i can do that is easier than just reformatting and reinstalling ubuntu?02:10
psusiGuest13463, what do you mean "system reserve"?02:10
BeldarGuest13463, live cd use gparted02:10
Guest13463that will let me extend the drive?02:11
psusiGuest13463, you mean the EFI system partition?  it only holds a single < 1 MiB file... you won't run out of space02:11
Guest13463i keep getting errors that I can't update or install anything because of disc space02:12
psusiGuest13463, then you don't have enough disk space?02:12
Guest13463shouldn't be that. I gave ubuntu drive 65 gb02:12
Akarin-desuNobody has any idea?02:13
Guest13463only has os installed on it02:13
Guest13463but i noticed while booting into windows that there is a system reserve partition that only has 100mb02:14
psusiGuest13463, go to a terminal and type sudo apt-get install pastebinit, and then df | pastebinit, and paste the link it gives you here02:14
Guest13463ok, ill have go boot into ubuntu brb02:14
wesssssssssshi, im the guy that was having trouble with disc spae02:21
wessssssssssspace02:21
wesssssssssssomeone told me to enter something into a terminal02:22
wessssssssssanyone remember?02:22
Beldarwessssssssss, <psusi> Guest13463, go to a terminal and type sudo apt-get install pastebinit, and then df | pastebinit, and paste the link it gives you here02:22
atma111pls help squid3 error http://paste.ubuntu.com/6614890/02:25
Guest29875Guest13463, YOU DO NOT WANT TO TOUCH THE RECOVERY PARTITION OR YOUR ENTIRE PC IS RUINED!02:25
Guest29875Guest13463, YOU DO NOT WANT TO TOUCH THE RECOVERY PARTITION OR YOUR ENTIRE PC IS RUINED!02:25
psusiwessssssssss, if you can't install pastebinit, then you can skip that and just run df and copy/paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu.com02:26
psusipastebinit just lets you skip the copy/paste step and the need for a web browser02:26
atma111pls help squid3 error http://paste.ubuntu.com/6614890/02:27
wesssssssssshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6614894/02:27
psusiwessssssssss, you have installed Ubuntu using Wubi instead of a "real" install, and only given Ubuntu 5.4 GB of space, which is below the minimum02:29
wessssssssssthat sounds bad02:29
psusiwessssssssss, run sudo parted -l and pastebin that02:29
wesssssssssshow do i pastebin again?02:30
wesssssssssshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6614921/02:32
wessssssssssnot sure i did that right02:33
emc2is there a native remote client in ubuntu?02:34
wessssssssssi was supposed to pastebin the output from the parted command, did it work?02:34
wessssssssssModel: ATA ST9500424AS (scsi)02:36
wessssssssssDisk /dev/sda: 500GB02:36
wessssssssssSector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B02:36
wessssssssssPartition Table: msdos02:36
wessssssssssNumber  Start   End     Size    Type      File system  Flags02:36
wessssssssss 1      1049kB  9413MB  9412MB  primary   ntfs         diag02:36
FloodBot1wessssssssss: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:36
wesssssssssshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6614941/02:38
wessssssssssok i think that worked02:38
wessssssssssthats the output from the parted thing you told me to run02:38
psusiwessssssssss, yep.. you installed with wubi in a small file instead of doing a real install to its own partition.. all you have are windows partitions02:39
wessssssssssis there a fix?02:40
averagewessssssssss: hey02:40
psusiwessssssssss, yea... uninstall it in the Windows add/remove programs, then reinstall it properly02:40
wessssssssssusing a boot disc?02:40
psusiwessssssssss, yep02:40
wessssssssssok02:41
averagewessssssssss: hello ?02:41
wessssssssssaverage, yes?02:41
averagewessssssssss: what problem are you having ?02:41
wessssssssssI can't update or install anything02:41
psusiaverage, he has a too small wubi install02:42
wessssssssssmy wubi is too small02:42
averagewessssssssss: why are you using wubi ?02:42
wessssssssssi was dual booting, looking for an easy way to install02:42
averagewessssssssss: don't you have any free usb disk ?02:42
averageusb stick I mean02:42
jswagnerthat's not a question that needs to be answered02:42
wessssssssssi think i do somewhere02:43
wessssssssssim new to ubuntu, i guess it was a noob mistake02:43
wesssssssssswindows installation is messed up so i installed ubuntu02:44
wessssssssssnow thats messed up too02:44
averagewessssssssss: I would use usb-creator-gtk or unetbootin to make a usb install stick for ubuntu02:44
averagewessssssssss: how about that ?02:44
averagewessssssssss: you wanna try that ?02:44
wesssssssssssure02:44
wesssssssssssounds harsd02:44
wesssssssssshard02:44
averagewessssssssss: nowai, it's easy02:45
wessssssssssdo i have to format the usb stick?02:45
averagewessssssssss: sure, you can do that with gparted, make a big partition on it like ext4 or ext302:45
wessssssssssok02:45
averagewessssssssss: whatever you do, make sure it's /dev/<whatever_the_usb_device_is> and not your hdd02:45
averagewessssssssss: so be careful only on that side. if you're careful everything should go smooth and you should be up & running soon02:46
Terry_Warrior:-S02:47
wessssssssssok i  have the usb drive and started up gparted02:47
averagedo the following02:48
averagels /dev/sd*02:48
KalelI'm thinking about install linux deepin.02:48
Kalel!deepin02:48
Kalel!linux-deepin02:48
averagewessssssssss: that will tell you the devices you have over there, /dev/sda is hdd for me , so it's my disk right ?02:48
averagewessssssssss: you should have  /dev/sdb as the usb stick, or /dev/sdc02:48
averagewessssssssss: or something like that02:48
Kalelubottu doesn't know anything about deepin..02:49
ubottuKalel: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)02:49
averagewessssssssss: after you figure out which is the usb stick do      gparted /dev/sdb  (if sdb is the stick)02:49
KalelI know, I know...02:49
averagewessssssssss: otherwise, you can just select the device in gparted in upper right corner02:49
wessssssssssi think ill just back up the stick to external drive02:49
averagewessssssssss: ok02:49
Terry_WarriorKalel:  why do you want to use deepin02:51
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Terry_Warriorwhy not try UbuntuKilin02:51
karab44good night02:51
KalelTerry_Warrior: I like it,02:52
KalelTerry_Warrior: Look as a beuty o.s.02:52
wessssssssssok i have a 4gb usb stick,  what should i tell gparted to do?02:52
averagewessssssssss: delete everything on your 4gb usb stick with gparted, like all partitions on there02:53
averagewessssssssss: then create one single ext4 or ext3 partition on that disk right ?02:53
averagewessssssssss: then apply02:53
averagewessssssssss: then you're ready to use usb-creator-gtk or unetbootin02:53
averagewessssssssss: one of those two ^^ will download a ubuntu .iso (image) and it will write it to your usb stick, then you're ready to reboot and boot from the usb stick and start the ubuntu install02:54
wessssssssssok, so i type something into a terminal to get usb-creator-gtk?02:56
averagewessssssssss: yes sir02:56
averagewessssssssss: can you use unetbootin instead ? it will download the .iso for you02:57
wesssssssssssudo apt-get unetbootin?02:57
averagewessssssssss: yes02:57
wessssssssssok02:57
wesssssssssslemme give it a try02:57
TheHighestFivehey guys I'm running ubuntu 12.04 and having a problem downloading out of firefox. It tells me to select an application to use to download said file, but doesn't give me any options. It sends allows me to search through my pictures, downloads, documents etc. I thought (since it worked through Chromium) maybe it was just an issue with Transmission. So I got Deluge and it still won't let me select any bittorrent client. anyone have02:57
TheHighestFive this issue before? any idea how to fix it?02:57
Beldaraverage, all the ubuntu unetbootin downloads are eol02:58
averageBeldar: it has 12.04 LTS in the list, so they are not eol02:58
Beldargood if that is so02:58
wesssssssssscan you give me the syntax,02:58
wessssssssssi got an error02:58
averagewessssssssss: what error did you get ?02:59
wessssssssssinvalid operation unetbootin02:59
averagewessssssssss: sudo apt-get install unetbootin02:59
wessssssssssooook02:59
wessssssssssgotit02:59
averagegreat, so you have it installed right ?02:59
averagedid you plug your usb stick in ? what does     ls /dev/sd*  say ?03:00
wessssssssssstill installing unetbootin03:00
averageI see, ok03:00
wessssssssssok it is installed, how do i run it?03:00
averageTheHighestFive: presss ALT+F2 , that will open up sort of like Start=>Run on Windows, now write gnome-terminal in there, you'll be able to get a terminal. Now do   sudo apt-get install firefox , that will get you firefox installed on your system03:01
averagewessssssssss: first let's mount your usb stick ok ?03:01
averagewessssssssss: ls /dev/sd*03:01
averagewessssssssss: what does that say ?03:01
TheHighestFiveaverage: I have firefox.03:01
TheHighestFiveIt's downloading other files from other websites I'm having a problem with. The bittorrent clients aren't launching.03:02
wessssssssssgives me a bunch of what i guess are drives03:02
averagewessssssssss: can you list those for me please ?03:02
wesssssssssssda sda1-sda603:03
averagewessssssssss: are those all ?03:03
wesssssssssssdb03:03
averageok03:03
wesssssssssssdb103:03
averagecool03:03
Kalelwessssssssss03:03
wesssssssssssdc03:03
averageso sdb is your usb stick device ok ? and sdb1 is the only partition on your usb stick03:03
wesssssssssssdd03:03
averageooooh ?!03:03
averageyou have mooore drives03:03
wesssssssssssde03:03
wesssssssssssdf03:04
averagereally ? all those ?03:04
wesssssssssssdg03:04
wesssssssssssdg103:04
FloodBot1wessssssssss: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:04
averageyou have so many disks03:04
wessssssssssi know03:04
averagedamnit, now we have to figure out which one of'em is your usb03:04
wessssssssssstick is sdg03:04
averageare you sure ?03:04
averageyou should be right03:04
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wessssssssssthats what it says in gparted03:04
averageok great03:04
averagelet's do      sudo mkdir /mnt/usb;03:04
wesssssssssswait03:04
averagethat will create a mountpoint for the usb stick03:05
wesssssssssslooks like sdg is the drive03:05
averageoh really ?03:05
wessssssssssand partition is sdg103:05
wessssssssssdoes that make sense?03:05
averageit makes sense03:05
wessssssssssok03:05
aslaenHello, I'm trying to setup cobbler. I've got it mostly working, but I need to get the gpg key for ubuntu 13.10. Where can I get that from?03:05
averagewessssssssss: so did you create the mountpoint ?03:06
averageaslaen: you can generate one yourself03:06
wessssssssssi entered what you wrote03:07
aslaenok I'm getting this error. gpgv: keyblock resource `/var/lib/cobbler/.gnupg/trustedkeys.gpg': file open error03:07
wessssssssssdidnt give feedback,03:07
averageaslaen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto#Using_GnuPG_to_generate_a_key03:07
wessssssssssjust another cursor03:07
aslaenlooking03:07
averageaslaen: generate yourself a gpg key and then put it where that thing expects to find it03:07
averagewessssssssss: cool03:07
aslaenoh ok thanks.03:07
averagewessssssssss: now let's mount sdg1       sudo mount /dev/sdg1 /mnt/usb03:07
averagewessssssssss: now that you mounted your usb stick partition start unetbootin03:08
aslaenaverage: great thanks, I'll try that.03:08
wessssssssssmount point mnt usb does not exist03:08
averagewessssssssss: ok, try again to create the mountpoint    sudo mkdir /mnt/usb ;03:09
averagewessssssssss: do you have a /mnt/usb directory now   ?   ls  /mnt/usb  does that give any errors ?03:09
wesssssssssscannot create directory03:10
wessssssssssfile exists03:10
wessssssssssmnt/usb03:10
averagewessssssssss: ok, try   mkdir /tmp/usb ;  sudo mount /dev/sdg1 /tmp/usb ;   sudo unetbootin03:11
averagethat should work03:11
averagewessssssssss: did it work ?03:11
wessssssssssi have the unetbootin dialogue03:12
KalelIs there a webchat in Klingon. I do not understand english so much.03:12
Kalel?03:13
mssghi all- i just got on here, it may not be the channel i'm looking for, would it be ok to ask a very newbie q here..?03:13
wessssssssssi dont see 12.04 distribution03:13
habsWhich Ubuntu version would roughly correspond with Debian Squeeze, in terms of package versions?03:15
wesssssssssswhich should i use?03:15
averagewessssssssss: you should use 12.04 , hang on03:15
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averagewessssssssss: ok so download this ubuntu 12.04 LTS .iso   http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso03:16
averagewessssssssss: after you got that downloaded, you can use it in unetbootin03:18
wessssssssssok, 20 mintes left,03:18
averageok03:18
wessssssssssjust click the radio button by diskimage03:18
wessssssssss?03:18
wesssssssssspoint it to the iso03:19
averagewessssssssss: exactly03:19
wessssssssssand that amd64 part wont be a problem putting it with an intel cpu ?03:19
averagewessssssssss: what's the name of your CPU ?03:20
wesssssssssscore i303:20
wessssssssssintel03:20
averagewessssssssss: for example my CPU is Intel® CoreTM i5-457003:20
guest830habs: ubuntu freezes at a different time than debian, so there are not many versions in common, you can compare their tables at Distrowatch03:20
averagewessssssssss: can you give me the full name of your CPU ?03:21
averagewessssssssss: I want to find out if it's 32 or 64 bit03:21
wessssssssssIntel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU       M 330  @ 2.13GHz03:21
averagewessssssssss: it's 64 bit, you're good03:22
averagewessssssssss: that .iso will work03:22
wessssssssssok03:22
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averageguest830: what problem do you have ?03:30
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averageguest830: ubuntu freezes for you ?03:30
guest830average: was a response for habs03:30
lickalottguest830, what client are you using (IRC)?03:33
guest830lickalott: webchat.freenode.net (qwebirc)03:34
SetiAmonhow do i perm turn off dpms i have to xset -dpms every boot03:34
averageSetiAmon: http://askubuntu.com/questions/61291/how-to-permanently-disable-monitor-power-saver-using-the-command-line03:35
averageSetiAmon: the first answer is exactly what you need03:35
impossiblehi how do i make the brightness control button work03:36
lickalottjust wondering03:37
lickalottSetiAmon, just for future reference.  If you want to disable/run a process you can generate a script and place it in /etc/rc2.d.03:38
lickalottimpossible: that's a really ambiguous question homey03:39
lickalottare you using a laptop (if so what model), or a desktop (if so what monitor).  What ver of ubuntu are you running?  What have you tried thus far?03:39
nwp_Dunno who needs to know, but NZ archive mirror is broken currently - missing new kdelibs5-data package, breaking upgrades for anyone with kde-runtime installed.03:41
impossiblelickalott, laptop. Someguy here figured it out03:41
impossiblei never got to askl how03:41
averageimpossible: you can control brightness in other ways03:43
averageimpossible: from a script. do you wanna know how ?03:43
lickalottare you talking FN button + blue brightness button?03:43
averagelickalott: for example I have a script that does     echo 40 > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness03:43
impossiblethx03:43
averagelickalott: that's how I control the brightness on my laptopt. but you may have a different acpi_video0 , maybe you have acpi_video103:44
lickalotti'm good.  i run server03:44
averageok03:44
lickalottthis is impossibles issues03:44
lickalott*issue03:44
lickalottmy only issue is that I need more harddrives.  Wanna hook a brutha up average?03:46
wesssssssssshere goes nothing. wish me luck03:46
averagewessssssssss: be careful what drive you tell unetbootin to write on03:47
averagewessssssssss: it should be /dev/sdg03:47
wessssssssssi dont want it to write to my hard drive?03:47
averagelickalott: you want me to recommend you some HDDs ?03:47
averagewessssssssss: no, you want it to write to usb03:47
lickalottno, i want you to buy one and send it to me  :D03:48
wessssssssssoh, i already did that part03:48
wessssssssssgetting ready to reboot03:48
Pwnnaokay. i think there's a serious memory leak in X server03:48
wessssssssssand hopefully reinstall ubuntu03:48
averagewessssssssss: ok, great03:48
PwnnaX is using 1GB of RAM03:48
averagewessssssssss: can you boot from the usb ? did you change the boot order in BIOS ?03:48
wessssssssssill have to do that after i log off03:49
averagewessssssssss: ah, ok03:49
wessssssssssim on ubuntu now03:49
averagewessssssssss: good luck, hopefuly see you soon03:49
wessssssssssthanks03:49
averagelickalott: well, I have an old IDE cable 500G hdd around here that I'm not using..03:50
averagelickalott: you want it ?03:50
averagePwnna: maybe upgrade to a more recent xserver-xorg package ?03:51
averagePwnna: or perhaps upgrade to a more recent ubuntu altogether03:51
Pwnnaaverage: i think i have the most recent. how do i change again?03:51
Pwnnahuh. thunderbird is using 1GB of RAM as well03:51
averagePwnna: you have the latest ? then switch back to a previous one maybe ?03:51
lickalottnah man...I'm just kidding.  thanks though!!03:51
averagePwnna: so thunderbird is the problem and not X ?!03:51
Pwnnahow do i tell what version i have?03:52
Pwnnaaverage: both are using 1GB of RAM each.03:52
averagePwnna: X -version03:52
PwnnaX -version                                                                                                                                                                                            (kvkit) *[master]03:52
PwnnaX.Org X Server 1.14.303:52
Pwnnawhoa. fail :303:52
averagePwnna: thunderbird is a beast when it comes to memory03:52
Pwnnashouldn't be..03:52
Pwnnai have it running all day before and it uses about 200MB of RAM before..03:52
Pwnnaxorg-server 2:1.14.3-3ubuntu2+gd~s (For technical support please see http://www.ubuntu.com/support)03:53
averagePwnna: if you want something more lightweight go for mutt (but beware, you will have to spend a lot of time configuring it)03:53
Pwnnayeah no. lol03:53
PwnnaX server is fine. but idk what's wrong03:53
Pwnnanow. i'm using the OIBAF drivers.. so latest mesa and what not03:53
averagePwnna: also, another option is using sylpheed claws which(as opposed to mutt) has a GUI03:53
Pwnnabut that is to get around a nasty bug with intel sandybridge graphics in Mesa 9.2.203:53
anon12I have installed nvidia-current by running sudo apt-get install nvidia-current; from a terminal but, when I run: sudo modprobe nvidia_current; I get: FATAL: Module nvidia_current not found.03:53
Pwnnaaverage: how do i track down what's leaking?03:53
bf022buenas..03:53
averagePwnna: you usually track down memory leaks using valgrind03:54
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Pwnnayeah..03:54
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averagePwnna: but it's something complicated and I'm not sure if you wanna go down that road...03:54
Pwnnarunning X in valgrind would be..03:54
Pwnna...03:54
averagePwnna: you could do that if you really wanted to03:54
Pwnnai don't..03:54
Pwnnai was wondering if anyone has encountered the same thing?03:54
averagePwnna: you can open like a different X screen like this    valgrind X:203:54
Pwnnahow much RAM is x using for you?03:54
averagePwnna: but you'd have to have X compiled with debugging symbols to be able to track down the memory leak in X's code03:55
Pwnnaexactly.03:55
averagePwnna: for me ? X takes 64MB RAM03:55
Pwnnaaverage: Desktop env is?03:55
averageyes03:55
averagePwnna: if you're worried about it, you can just get some more RAM DIMMs ..03:56
Pwnnaaverage: i'm on 6GB. the problem is that X server's RAM usage is creeping out03:56
Pwnnacreeping up*03:56
averagePwnna: or try different versions of Ubuntu running on LiveCDs for example and try to see how their X and thunderbird versions behave  (to make live usb sticks with different versions of ubuntu see usb-creator-gtk or unetbootin )03:56
lickalottmaybe I missed something.  Pwnna what makes you think there is a memory leak?  and why the OS vs your DIMM's?03:57
averagelickalott: because he checked the memory usage and he found out it was big ?03:57
averagebfiller: hi03:57
lickalottI have read (forget where) that there is a new RAM management process similar to superfetch (winblows) in 13.10.  What ver are you running Pwnna03:58
Pwnnalickalott: X server is using 1GB of RAM.03:58
lickalottholy sh!t balls03:58
Pwnnathat sounds abnormal..03:58
Pwnnalickalott: yeah.03:58
Pwnnaexactly.03:58
Pwnnaand it is creeping upwards.03:58
lickalottis this a new install?03:58
Pwnnano. and upgraded install from 13.04 to 13.1003:58
Pwnnapls don't tell me to reinstall. this is not winblows 303:58
Pwnna:3*03:59
lickalottbtw: average that was pretty cool of you to offer that hdd.03:59
averagePwnna: you can also limit the memory a process uses with ulimit ...03:59
averagePwnna: but if you put restrictions on it.. it might just crash so.. you might wanna be careful with that03:59
Pwnnayup03:59
lickalottwhat do you have running (3rd party apps)?03:59
hkrCan I get a good task manager for ubuntu ? ps doesn't seem to be showing everything.04:00
Pwnnalickalott: here's a screenie of my task manager. http://imgur.com/dEY0McP04:00
Pwnnauhhh04:00
lickalottfile not found04:00
Pwnnahttp://imgur.com/dEY0McP04:00
Pwnnawtf04:00
Pwnnahttp://i.imgur.com/dEY0McP.png04:00
lickalottneg04:00
Pwnnaimgur is fucking up a little04:00
lickalottwhats your imgur username?04:01
Pwnna^ there the direct link works for me04:01
SonikkuAmerica!wtf | Pwnna04:01
ubottuPwnna: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.04:01
Pwnnasorry. forgot.04:01
SonikkuAmerica:)04:01
averagePwnna: also consider that KDE is quite bloated. I use i3 as my window manager because it's super-lightweight. I cannot recommend it enough04:01
SonikkuAmericaAh, i3.04:01
averageSonikkuAmerica: do you use it ?04:01
Pwnnabut yeah.04:01
Pwnnathe amount of RAM that X is eating is ridiculous04:01
SonikkuAmericaaverage: When I use Ubuntu Studio.04:01
averageSonikkuAmerica: haha04:02
Pwnnai had trouble compiling Android and i was like.. wait why is my disk getting hit.. o.O Ram is at 100% usage and it is hitting swap04:02
xjokes#rails04:02
PwnnaX was using 1GB, Thunderbird was using 1GB...04:02
averagePwnna: I have some solutions for you...04:03
Pwnnaoh? has someone experienced this problem?04:03
averagePwnna: I have had problems like that04:03
averagePwnna: 1st soution =>  get lots of ram(16G or 32G or more if you can), make a ramdisk, throw everything in RAM.   2nd solution => do the same but with an SSD04:04
Pwnna...04:04
Pwnnathat's not a solution.04:04
averageworks for me. .04:04
Pwnnalickalott: does http://i.imgur.com/dEY0McP.png work for you?04:05
Pwnnaaverage: ...04:05
lickalottyeah, I got to it.04:05
lickalottPwnna try this and watch your task manager - echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches04:05
lickalottlemme know if it goes down04:05
Pwnnaso one thing is that i'm using the oibaf drivers, lickalott04:05
averagelickalott: what does that do ?04:05
lickalottfrees your pagecache04:06
lickalottnothing harmful04:06
Pwnnaand nope04:06
lickalottk04:06
averagelickalott: can you explain in laymen terms pls ?04:06
Pwnnait is still slowly creeping up..04:06
lickalottecho 2 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches04:06
Pwnnanothing.04:06
lickalottecho 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches04:06
Pwnnalol04:06
Pwnnafor i=0 to x?04:07
Pwnna:P04:07
lickalotthttp://www.linuxinsight.com/proc_sys_vm_drop_caches.html04:07
Pwnnafor 3 ram usage went down, but that didn't came from X server.04:07
PwnnaX is still using 1GB04:07
lickalottso next on the list is a "sync" then sudo init 604:08
denysoniqueIs it possible to disable packages from being installed from a ppa, upgrades that I don't wont?04:08
denysoniquee.g. I install VLC form ppa, but it also wants to upgrade my gnome-terminal04:08
lickalottdepends on what repos you have set denysonique04:08
lickalottcould also read through this Pwnna - http://serenadetoacuckooo.blogspot.ca/2012/03/linux-memory-tweaks-for-improved.html04:09
denysoniquelickalott: in Gentoo you can mask the entire overlay(ppa) and then just unmask the package you want to install. Is this possible in Ubuntu?04:09
lickalottnot sure man.  You'd have to ask a bigger brain that mine.04:09
lickalottsry04:09
TheDrums!pin04:09
ubottupinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto04:09
psusiPwnna, how are you measuring this?04:09
lickalottlike TheDrums04:09
lickalottlol04:09
raspberrypifanhi y'all i keep having issue with booting from a live usb, it goes into busy box instead of going into boot04:09
Pwnnalickalott: init 6 just rebooted my system..04:10
lickalottraspberrypifan, try to rebuild the drive.   What did you use to load the image?04:10
denysoniqueTheDrums: more complicated than Gentoo, but thanks04:10
Pwnnaand yeah. X server usage is now down to.. .120MB04:10
lickalotttrue Pwnna.  once you sync then reboot04:10
Pwnnapseubodot: RSS?04:10
raspberrypifanI'm on a mac trying to build for a pc, i have used unetbootin04:10
raspberrypifanused two different images just in case04:10
Pwnnapseubodot: also htop was reporting 19.9% mem usage. and i have 6GB04:11
lickalottsame results on both raspberrypifan04:11
raspberrypifanyea both images throw me into busybox04:11
lickalottPwnna is it creeping up now?04:11
Pwnnalickalott: it takes like 2 days for it to creep up04:11
qwebirc90574Hi  , I am having issues in installing Ubuntu(Dual boot along side windows 8) into my vaio laptop . Issue is my wifi goes off ,  Windows boot loader got crrupt  .04:11
lickalottif you wanna get crazy with it...you can create a while loop that only does top then redirect output to a log file and see what is actually tagging your xserver04:12
lickalottUEFI vbios qwebirc9057404:12
Pwnnalickalott: how should i go about creating a cron job to log my x server memory usage every... 10min?04:12
qwebirc90574what is UEFI vbios04:12
Pwnnai'll graph it04:13
lickalottcan you still access your winblows partition qwebirc90574?04:13
lickalottif it takes two days Pwnna you could prob do an hour and still get a good idea04:13
trishanhi, is any data recovery tools for Ubuntu 13.0404:13
lickalottyes trishan04:13
Pwnnalickalott: yeah, but i need to graph it.. right?04:13
lickalottphotorec04:14
qwebirc90574I was not able to access  .  I has to reinstall to my factory setting and I did it04:14
lickalottnext round try EasyBCD qwebirc90574, but read up on UEFI bios first (windows 8 is a bear)04:14
wikiwillHi guys, I'm trying to dual-boot win7/ubuntu, my partition table is MBR, i have a 100MB system reserved partition, the rest of my disk is an NTFS partition, and the ubuntu installer does not give me an option to install alongside windows. It also does not detect any existing partitions in "something else", only free space. I just ran CHKDSK and it found no problems. Can't find any useful sources on google.04:14
Pwnnadoes the X server pid ever change if i don't logout?04:15
lickalottwikiwill, run gparted, break off a piece of the NTFS partition and format ext3, then retry04:15
psusiwikiwill, boot the livecd and run sudo parted -l04:15
lickalottPwnna, i don't believe so04:16
wikiwillgparted is the "something else" option, and last time i tried it found nothing04:16
Pwnnakay04:16
raspberrypifanso no help i just tried mac linux usb loader and its even worse04:16
raspberrypifannothing at all04:16
Pwnnapmap it is04:16
Pwnnathanks04:16
trishanone of my friend format my flash drive i lost my important files plz help me how can i recover my flash drive (pen)04:16
psusiwikiwill, no, gparted is a program, not an installer option04:16
psusiwikiwill, run sudo parted -l in a terminal and pastebin the output04:16
wikiwillMy mistake, i thought the installer used gparted. I will run that command and return here in 10 minutes with the result04:17
averagewikiwill: what's up ?04:17
lickalotttrishan, google photorec.  You can install via ubuntu.  then just point it to the drive in question and retreive the files you want04:17
averageqwebirc90574: are you wessssss ?04:17
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lickalottparted and gparted are different wikiwill, roll with psusi's option first before you go with gparted.04:18
trishanthank you so much <lickalott>04:18
averageqwebirc90574: are you wesssss ?04:19
raspberrypifancome on y'all04:19
lickalottraspberrypifan ?04:19
raspberrypifani know its not ubuntus fault per say but it shouldn't be this difficult to burn an image to flash drive04:19
averageraspberrypifan: sure, have you tried unetbootin or usb-creator-gtk ?04:20
lickalottyou're burning the .iso from a MAC to load a usb image on a windows box? or a MAC?04:20
raspberrypifani used unetbootin04:20
raspberrypifani haven't heard of usbcreatorgtk04:20
raspberrypifanon a win box04:20
averageraspberrypifan: so what error do you get ?04:20
raspberrypifanw unetbootin it throws me into busybox04:21
raspberrypifanand nothing else04:21
lickalottthe problem may be formatting?   can you see what the usb drive is partitioned as raspberrypifan?04:21
raspberrypifanyea i formatted it with a MBR04:21
averageraspberrypifan: do you know that there are distributions tailored for raspberrypi ?04:21
averageraspberrypifan: have you considered that the architecture of raspberry is not the same as a normal machine ?04:22
raspberrypifanits not a pi its for my mom thosibia04:22
averageraspberrypifan: have you used the appropriate distribution and version for that particular architecture ?04:22
averageraspberrypifan: ah I see04:22
averagesorry04:22
lickalottit's windows avelldiroll04:22
lickalottaverage04:22
lickalottis the windows box dead raspberrypifan?04:22
lickalottcan you try and load the image from that machien?04:23
lickalott*machine04:23
averageraspberrypifan: well, did you check if the CPU is 32 or 64 bit on the toshiba machine where you tried to use the usb stick ?04:23
Akarin-desuWhere is the bes place on Freenode to ask about general computer troubleshooting?04:23
raspberrypifanwell ttbh i have no idea how u make a live usb rom mint machine04:23
raspberrypifanI'm pretty sure its 3204:23
averageraspberrypifan: did you use the i386 ubuntu .iso ?04:23
averageraspberrypifan: or the amd64 one ?04:23
lickalottAkarin-desu, msg me04:23
raspberrypifanthe 138604:23
* lickalott scratches head04:24
averageraspberrypifan: have you tried different ubuntu versions ?04:24
lickalottMAC > Windows > Mint??04:24
raspberrypifanthe other machine has linux mint on it, I'm sure i could try and make the usb from there but i have no idea who to do that on a linux macine04:24
averageraspberrypifan: or just one of them ?04:24
raspberrypifanyea i tried two versions04:24
bugs_buggerhi there. can someone help me with logic volume management?04:25
averagebugs_bugger: maybe try #lvm ?04:25
averagebugs_bugger: have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lvm ?04:25
averageraspberrypifan: how old is that toshiba machine ?04:26
bugs_buggeraverage: i rather meant on general terms: i want to do a reinstall of linux on an existing lvm setup04:26
raspberrypifanno idea04:26
raspberrypifanhttp://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Satellite%C2%AE-L755-S5246-Computer-LED-Backlit/dp/B005FND0LI04:26
bugs_buggeraverage: whilst keeping my lv home and data partitions04:26
lickalottthe "other" machine is going to be a windows machine?04:26
wikiwillHi guys, I was here ten minutes ago, I'm trying to dual boot win7/ubuntu, my drive is MBR, there is a 100MB system reserved NTFS partition and the rest of the disk is another NTFS partition. Ubuntu does not have the install alongside windows option, and "something else" does not detect the existing windows partitons, only a tonne of free space. here is a pastebin of sudo parted -l: http://pastebin.com/STPq4awC04:28
lickalottor do you have 3 machines that you're working with?04:28
averagewikiwill: are you wesssssss ?04:29
psusibugs_bugger, so what's the question?04:29
wikiwillaverage: no04:29
wikiwillaverage: no04:29
psusiwikiwill, you have a corrupt partition table04:30
averagewikiwill: recover your data and go for a complete reinstall ?04:30
bugs_buggerpsusi: how to reinstall my system which uses lvm while keeping my home and data lv04:30
Beldarwikiwill, You have "/dev/sda contains GPT signatures"04:30
wikiwillaverage: i just did that.04:30
wikiwillI spent >10 hours this week recovering data04:30
Beldarwikiwill, Did you change the partition table to msdos?04:31
averagewikiwill: so just wipe everything out now and you can start the install right ?04:31
wikiwillI did not change it, but it is MSDOS04:31
psusibugs_bugger, choose the "something else" option and assign the partitions as you wish04:31
wikiwillaverage: thats what i just did today. didnt fix the problem, what next?04:31
Beldarwikiwill, You have gpt remnants at the least,04:31
psusiwikiwill, it seems that at some point you had a gpt partition table and then replaced it with an msdos one04:31
wikiwilli did04:32
averagewikiwill: try what psusi said ^^04:32
bugs_buggerpsusi: ok. but last time i installed my system /w lvm it did a complete reformat. but i take it that it cant detect and use exisiting lvs?04:32
psusiwikiwill, install and use gdisk to remove the left over gpt bits, though the fact that parted then said you have a partition outside the disk after answering no to the gpt question indicates there is more damage04:32
wikiwillit was originally windows, ubuntu installed itself over windows(even though i clicked alongside), i reinstalled windows, recovered my files, now i still want to install ubuntu04:32
wikiwillwhat did psusi say04:32
lickalottformat that effer with gparted and start over04:33
psusibugs_bugger, only if you choose "use the entire disk and set it up with lvm" instead of "something else"04:33
wikiwillok04:33
wikiwillok04:33
lickalottLVM???  psusi we can't be friend anymore04:33
bugs_buggerpsusi: ah, k, i see..04:33
wikiwillwould you recommend i run gdisk from a live cd or install ubuntu first04:34
lickalott:p04:34
bugs_buggerlickalott: whats wrong 'bout lvm?04:34
psusilickalott, eh?04:34
psusiwikiwill, you can do it from the livecd04:34
averagewikiwill: live cd04:34
wikiwillthanks guys, you're a wonderful community04:34
averagewikiwill: live stick04:34
Beldarwikiwill, you can remove the gpt remnants without a reinstall. http://www.rodsbooks.com/fixparts/04:34
lickalottjoking.  i'm not a fan only because if something catastophic happens it's a bitch to mount anything on an LVM to retrieve data04:34
averagewikiwill: a wonderful community ? wow04:34
averagewe're a wonderful community !04:35
psusilickalott, not really, just have to install the lvm package... and it's nice to be able to do things like pick up your running root fs and move it to a new drive on the fly without having to reboot into a livecd04:35
bugs_buggeraverage: +1 ;)04:35
psusior grow your root partition without needing to reboot, though I finally got the ability to do that into the very latest gparted release04:36
wikiwillgdisk found MBR and GPT. should i use MBR or create blank GPT?04:36
psusiusing non lvm partitions04:36
psusiwikiwill, if you think you are using mbr, then you want to zap the gpt04:37
psusiand stick with the mbr04:37
bugs_buggerlickalott: usually in case of catastrophic events i got a backup of important stuff ;) but its good to keep that in mind since i like to play around...04:37
lickalottnot if the the boot/kernel has been corrupted psusi.  even installing the lvm2 package won't allow you to mount.  I had to roll out gparted and change/add a partition table so i could even mount.04:38
psusilickalott, boot live cd, install lvm, mount away04:38
wikiwillalright, so gdisk can list my partitions. sohuld i verify or should i be doing something else?04:38
lickalottagreed bugs_bugger.  I've been using a script (historically) but recently I've been playing with clonezilla, rsync, and rsnapshot04:38
bugs_buggerbugs_bugger is taking notes on his emergency pad...04:39
psusiwikiwill, verify wouldn't hurt, then write the changes04:39
lickalottnot that easy sometimes psusi04:39
wikiwillah right, i didnt see write to disk, thanks04:39
bugs_buggerlickalott: rsync is awesome ;)04:39
psusiwikiwill, then run parted -l again and it should see things right04:39
wikiwillwait no it says its about to write GPT data04:39
psusiwikiwill, didn't you tell it to zap the gpt?04:39
wikiwilli selected "1" for MBR04:40
bugs_buggerlickalott: admitted, i kinda got a soft spot for gui, so grsync ;-)04:40
lickalotti haven't run a gui based *nix os for so long...  i've just been creating backup scripts for stuff.  But when my backup wasn't sufficient for the rebuild of my server i knew I had to approach different avenues04:41
wikiwillpsusi: ah, i didnt se the expert menu with the "zap" command.04:42
psusiwikiwill, you want the (x)tended menu and (z)ap gpt option04:42
wikiwillpsusi: and now, i should install windows and then ubuntu again?04:43
bugs_buggerlickalott: given that circumstances, i guess scripting a good backup system might get difficult04:43
lickalotthere's a thought...   we/someone needs to develop an application that allows us (helpers) to see what they (askers/users) are seeing so we can assist better.  maybe an android or crapple app that allows the use of the camera to stream live vid to someone that the user/asker dictates.04:43
psusiwikiwill, yea... check and make sure parted -l is happy first04:43
wikiwillunrecognized disk label+partition outside disk.... is that ok, psusi?04:44
psusiwikiwill, nope04:44
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lickalottyeah!  especially if you want a "real" backup image.  because the stuff you'll want it mounted when you want it, it becomes difficult.   I've had the best luck with dd, but i don't want a full 500GB copy of a drive when only 100GB is being used.04:44
lickalottrsync seems to be the best option at this point04:45
psusiwikiwill, wait, there is nothing on this disk you want to save and you just want to format and reinstall everything?04:45
wikiwillpsusi i already backed it up this week because of the last time i installed ubuntu and it wiped windows a week ago04:45
wikiwillpsusi i'd rather have the convenience of not reformatting tho04:46
psusiwikiwill, well it seems your partition table is still corrupt... pastebin the output of fdisk -l04:46
mojtaba!ru04:46
ubottuПожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.04:46
lickalottwikiwill have you ever played with acronis?04:46
wikiwillpsusi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6615330/04:47
wikiwilllickalott: no04:47
lickalottlook into it for future windows endevors04:47
psusiwikiwill, ohh.. is that the right disk?  I thought you said gdisk saw a correct MBR partition table?04:47
wikiwilllickalott: i used easeus to recover my data04:47
wikiwillpsusi: it has to be. no other disks, SD cards, USB drives, are inserted. only one HDD and one DVD drive04:48
psusiwikiwill, well, it's gone now04:48
wikiwillpsusi, so installing windows should work and then ubuntu will detect it now?04:49
wikiwillparted -l still returns the same thing04:49
psusiwikiwill, yep04:49
wikiwillAlright psusi, thanks for your help, I'll install windows and then ubuntu, if something goes wrong, i'll be back here within an hour04:50
* lickalott keeps the fire warm04:53
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raspberrypifanso whose heard of xbmcunbutu04:58
Beldarraspberrypifan, No polling and this is canonical ubuntu release support.04:59
raspberrypifanis there a channel for that05:00
bugs_bugger#ubuntu-offtopic05:05
SonikkuAmericaBeldar: He doesn't sound like he's polling, but...05:06
SonikkuAmericaraspberrypifan: If you're looking for XBMC support, you might try #xbmc-linux05:06
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raspberrypifanyes i joined thanks05:06
bugs_buggersorry, missed that second line05:07
atma111i have one problem ubuntu server and squid305:10
coventry`Is there a reliable way to get the length of an mp3?  It appears that mp3info underestimates, mplayer overestimates.05:13
SchrodingersScat!ask | atma11105:13
ubottuatma111: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience05:13
dougbbis anyone else experiencing a problem with 13.10 where every time you reopen a gtk window it grows a few pixels?05:15
Guest20254Is there a better IRC client at all?05:15
dougbbGuest20254: if you just want to chat, pidgin does quite well on IRC05:17
SchrodingersScat!info weechat | Guest2025405:17
ubottuGuest20254: weechat (source: weechat): Fast, light and extensible chat client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.1-2 (saucy), package size 1 kB, installed size 31 kB05:17
isoscelesdash no longer shows me applications. is there any hope?05:17
dougbbisosceles: a little context please?05:18
isoscelesdougbb: 13.1005:19
isoscelesmany unity / window management problems05:19
Guest20254ok i'll have a look at weechat05:20
Guest20254can I get weechat off of Ubuntu Software Center?05:20
isoscelesamong them: dash will not find any applications. all i want to do is find "startup disk creator" so i can install a fresh operating system.05:20
isoscelesdougbb: any other information i can provide?05:21
dougbbwhat are you typing, and what happens when you type it?05:22
isoscelesdougbb: "sorry, there is nothing that matches your search"05:23
dougbbwhat happens if you open a terminal?05:23
isoscelesdougbb: i am typing anything. name an application -- if i type it, nothing results05:23
isoscelesi haven't tested terminal as much, but the couple applications i recently tried to run did not run.05:24
farahhello05:24
dougbb"did not run" doesn't really help :)05:24
dougbbwhat happens when you try?05:24
imghostisosceles, tried any de other than unity?05:24
superbootisosceles: "de" = Desktop Environment05:25
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isoscelesdougbb: test me. what do you want me to try in terminal?05:26
isoscelesimghost: puppy linux, microcore05:26
dougbbisosceles: imghost asked a better question ... but for example try 'ls'05:26
* farah slaps FloodBot1 around a bit with a large trout05:27
isoscelesdougbb: ls returns the contents of my home folder.05:27
imghostisosceles, /etc/X11/default-display-manager paste its output05:27
imghostisosceles, whats the output of dpkg -l | grep unity-scope-home05:28
isoscelesimghost: bash: /etc/X11/default-display-manager: Permission denied05:29
imghostisosceles, use sudo05:29
dougbbimghost: he tried to run the file05:29
isoscelesimghost: ii  unity-scope-home                                            6.8.2+13.10.20131003-0ubuntu1            amd64        Home scope that aggregates results from multiple scopes05:30
dougbbisosceles: do this:  cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager05:30
isoscelesdougbb: /usr/sbin/lightdm05:31
imghostisosceles, dpkg-reconfigure lightdm05:31
imghostisosceles, after that paste the output of cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and use pastebinit for posting multiple lines05:32
isoscelesimghost: okay, nothing noticeable happened.05:32
imghost!pastebinit | isosceles05:33
ubottuisosceles: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com05:33
isoscelesimghost: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6615476/05:33
imghostisosceles, ok, now dconf reset -f /org/compiz/05:36
isoscelesimghost: done05:36
imghostisosceles, then setsid unity05:36
imghostisosceles, unity --reset-icons05:36
imghostisosceles, relogin now or better do one reboot05:37
isoscelesimghost: my min/max buttons are back! haven't had those in days05:38
imghostisosceles, just do one reboot and tell me the results05:38
isoscelesimghost: i am literally pouring a dram of bourbon in celebration. i will reboot and report back.05:39
imghostisosceles, ok :)05:39
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isoscelesimghost: rebooted and problem(s) solved. i can find applications with dash again. any chance you can explain/summarize how that worked?05:43
imghostisosceles, glad to help you :) now you do not want to do a fresh install :), actualy when we use many DE then sometimes they conflict with each other05:45
isoscelesimghost: did i use conflicting DE?05:45
imghostisosceles, means configurations files,settings05:45
imghostisosceles, yes, when you were doing experiments :)05:46
isoscelesimghost: could my problems have been caused by "unity tweak"05:46
imghostisosceles, no. i do not think so05:46
isoscelesimghost: i don't fiddle too much05:47
isoscelesimghost: well thank you for the help05:47
imghostisosceles, relax :), just do one thing create a backups of all your default configurations :)05:47
isoscelesimghost: backup in process05:48
imghost!yay | isosceles05:48
ubottuisosceles: Glad you made it! :-)05:48
dougbbimghost: do you know off hand if there is an xfce equivalent to that --reset-icons command?05:48
isoscelesubottu: cheers05:48
[[thufir]]is it normal that ssh into a remote server, digital ocean, will sometimes freeze?  I'm running something on the server at 100% cpu...05:48
[[thufir]]ssh just crashed with "Write failed: Broken pipe" a sec ago.05:49
dougbb[[thufir]]: yes, ssh needs system resources just like any other process05:49
imghostdougbb, sorry did not get you :(05:50
dougbbimghost: you gave isoceles the 'unity --reset-icons' command05:51
imghostyes05:51
dougbbjust wondering if you know of an xfce equivalent05:51
dougbbI use xfce, not unity05:51
imghostdougbb, ok, i will try whats the exact problem are you facing with xfce?05:52
dougbbI have had the same home directory for a couple years, and upgraded from a working 13.04 to 13.10 when it was released. Ever since then I have had all kinds of wacky minor issues05:53
dougbbfor example, the default mail icon won't appear, but all the other ones do05:53
dougbbI tried changing icon themes, even manually verified the settings on the icon, and that the icon file is readable, but it just shows up as the default empty box05:54
dougbbthe other thing that's making me nutso is that all of my gtk windows grow a few pixels every time  I reopen them05:54
imghostdougbb, did you have a backup of xfconfd??05:54
roothorickis there a way to prevent the liveCD from loading nouveau?05:54
dougbbI'm hoping the latter one is fixed in today's update05:54
dougbbimghost: not from before the 13.04 -> 13.10 update :-/05:55
dougbbimghost: I've used ubuntu off and on since the 8.x days, I've never had this kind of trouble05:55
dougbbI purposely have my /home on a different partition so I can do a clean install of the OS whenever I have to, and preserve my settings05:56
imghostdougbb, installing a fresh os is not solution of this types of problems05:57
dougbbyeah, I do that more when custom stuff I've installed gets away from me :)05:58
dougbbI am more disciplined about 'configure --prefix=/usr/local' now :)05:58
dougbbwhat I really need to do is try creating a new user and see how many of the problems persist05:59
dougbbI hate to wipe out my settings and start over, I've got years of accumulated things it would take me weeks to set right again05:59
dougbbbut work is slow this holiday season, so I thought I'd poke around in here for a bit first, then take the plunge if I have to06:00
Bsimsdougbb: try zapping the gtk config first06:00
imghostdougbb, i will try to solve your problem but first letme finish my lunch :)06:00
Bsimssimply rename the folder, let it recreate it, if that didn't fix it delete and change the folder name back06:00
dougbbimghost: no hurry, it's been a long tiem already :)06:01
dougbbBsims: you're referring to .gconf ?06:01
Bsimscorrect06:02
nicklecoderQuestion: I have a desktop computer I'm trying to connect to my television using a vga-to-rca converter box. The picture is perfect while booting but goes away as soon as the bios hands things over to the os. I can ssh into the desktop. How do I force it to send video signals even though it doesn't see the monitor?06:05
lotuspsychjenicklecoder: did you try with xrandr?06:09
dougbbremoving .gconf didn't help06:11
averagehey what happens if I remove ubuntu-desktop and unity ?06:12
averagethey're a pain in the as06:12
average*ass06:12
averageI don't use them..06:13
FloodBot1average: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.06:13
averageFloodBot1: shut up, I live in a free country, stop censoring me06:13
lotuspsychje!notunity | average06:13
ubottuaverage: Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use the !Unity desktop environment by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown.06:13
nicklecoderI tried, but with xrandr through ssh, all I got was local changes.06:13
lotuspsychje!xrandr | nicklecoder06:13
ubottunicklecoder: XRandR 1.2 is the new method of running dual screens in !X.  Information/HowTo here: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR1206:13
averagelotuspsychje: so can I run gnome stuff without ubuntu-desktop & unity ?06:14
steff_anyone know the command to start/restart LightDM?06:14
averagesteff_: yes , /etc/init.d/lightdm start06:14
averagesteff_: /etc/init.d/lightdm stop06:14
lotuspsychjeaverage: you should install gnome shell if you dont like unity06:14
averagesteff_: sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm restart06:14
averagelotuspsychje: but I don't use gnome shell either06:14
steff_thnx has to be from within the directory?06:14
averagelotuspsychje: I use i3 and lxterminal06:15
lotuspsychjeaverage: what is your actual purpose?06:15
averagesteff_: no, from anywhere06:15
nicklecoderOk, so I tried xrandr in a terminal that is ssh'd in to my desktop; prob06:15
nicklecoderlem is that it doesn't set things on the desktop, only locally, even though it's through ssh.06:15
averagelotuspsychje: I want to take out libzeitgeist-1.0-1  right ? but aptitude says ubuntu-desktop and unity will be broken if I do that.06:16
lotuspsychjeaverage: there have been issues with purge zeitgeist, removing unity yes i would not reccomend it06:16
lotuspsychjeaverage: why do you want zeitgeist out?06:16
averagelotuspsychje: because I don't need it at all06:17
averageit;s a nuissance06:17
lotuspsychjeaverage: you can disable in settings right06:17
lotuspsychjeaverage: if it really bothers you, ask the proper way to remove zeitgeist here in chat06:18
lotuspsychjeaverage: but i would be really cautious06:18
dougbbback up your data first :)06:19
arunkumar413HI all,  I want to share by laptop ethernet connection over wi-fi06:21
lickalottaverage save me from reading "up", whats the problem?06:21
arunkumar413how to do it06:21
lotuspsychjelickalott: he likes to purge zeitgeist, a safe way06:22
lotuspsychjelickalott: without removing unity06:22
Rastartwhoops..06:22
lickalottarunkumar413, huh?06:22
Rastartis that channel for social matters?06:22
lotuspsychje!ot | Rastart06:22
ubottuRastart: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!06:22
lickalottaverage are you running an older distro but want the repos/additions of newer releases?06:23
Rastartso a social guy is not allowed here...?06:23
lotuspsychjeRastart: if the social guy has an ubuntu problem, sure!06:23
arunkumar413lickalott: what happened06:23
Beldar!hotspot06:24
lickalottarunkumar413, why would you want to do that?  splain pls, for troubleshooting purposes06:24
dougbbRastart: this is not a chat channel, there are plenty of those :)06:24
Rastartshould i invent to have some ubuntu problem to keep talking with you? i think you so funny :D06:24
arunkumar413lickalott: I want to connect an android device06:24
lotuspsychjeBeldar: there is one trigger for it i also forget it06:24
dougbbarunkumar413: what device?06:25
lickalottso you are tethering an android and want to essentially share your 4g connection via wifi to other devices?06:25
arunkumar413dougbb: an android mobile phone06:25
averagelickalott: the problem is this zeitgeist man, it's like ... been proven to be a privacy problem, it's like sending personal data from your computer to some places, I don't want that, so I want it to die06:25
Beldararunkumar413, https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=ubuntu+hotspot&gbv=1&sei=pYW2UqjvF8qEoQTqm4HgDw06:25
Rastartwell guys have a nice day06:25
averagelickalott: so I was explaining to lotuspsychje why I wanna remove zeitgeist and he's like "ask for the properw ay to remove zeitgeist" .. I mean.. apt-get purge or aptitude purge, what else would be the proper way ?06:26
dougbbRastart: you too :)06:26
lickalottapt-get remove06:26
Rastartit's been a pleasure to spend some time with you but i suppose you got something better to do then waste time with some random buddy06:26
raspberrypifanapt-get remove hate06:26
averagelickalott: yeah.. remove/purge , has the same effect (except for configuration files and data that is removed by purge)06:26
dougbbarunkumar413: do you want to use the cell phone's Internet connection for your laptop to connect through, or the other way around?06:26
lickalottdo you know the exact process that you want killed?06:27
Beldarraspberrypifan, read the channel code of contact you have been way off of it's use.06:27
lickalottaverage if you can get a pid just throw a script in rc2.d to kill that process on boot up06:27
lickalottor set a cronjob to make sure it's killed every 10/20 mins or so06:28
lotuspsychjethere is a proper way to remove zeitgeist06:28
lotuspsychjebut i cant remember06:28
raspberrypifanwhat'd i do06:28
iseeselfum, guys can i ask a pygtk question here?(other channels are dead)06:29
averagelotuspsychje: please tell me if you look into it or remember the way06:29
lotuspsychjeaverage: cant remember sorry, thats why i suggested you to ask in channel here06:29
lickalotti'm digging right now average06:29
averageHey Everybody ?? What is the *correct* way to remove this ZEITGEIST thing from my Ubuntu install ?!06:30
Rastart iseeself , channels never die for real who told you that crap?06:30
lotuspsychje!language | Rastart06:30
ubottuRastart: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.06:30
hkrUse synaptic or sudo apt-get purge <packagename> I guess...06:30
averageDoes anyone do Security Reviews of the Ubuntu distribution ? If so, what other things should I remove from my Ubuntu installs to make them *safe* ?06:30
lotuspsychjehkr: if you remove zeitgeist that way, it will influence unity06:31
hkrOh ... Right...06:31
averagehkr: and ubuntu-desktop06:31
lickalottAHHHH..... that was what I was talking about earlier average.  the surperfetch equivlent that could be spiking that dudes 1GB X process06:31
hkrIm in xubuntu, sorry >_<06:31
averagelickalott: yeah, *SUPERFETCH* , another *nuissance*06:31
lickalotthave you tried sudo apt-get --purge remove zeitgeist06:31
hkrTry dpkg -l |grep zeit06:32
averagelike what's with all this stuff that's running in my Ubuntu by default06:32
averageI don't even know what it is06:32
averagewhat's up with superfetch and zeitgeist ?06:32
hkrBetter google it06:32
lickalotti run server so i dont see that stuffs.06:32
hkrToo much to explain here I guess... And I don't know much either06:32
lickalottsuperfetch is a RAM management process06:32
dougbbaverage: this looks promising: http://askubuntu.com/questions/45548/disabling-zeitgeist06:32
averagelickalott: maybe I should install Ubuntu server on my desktop to get rid of all that nuissance stuff06:32
averagedougbb: ah, thanks sir !06:33
Rastartoh oh sorry...i said have a nice day some time before...but i usually forgot...oh well...it seems i really have to leave you be because this is a family friendly polite and professional and i don't know sh.t about civilization06:33
averagelickalott: yeah but, doesn't the kernel manage RAM ?06:33
lickalottkills have the issues that come up.  I have 0 xserver problems06:33
lickalottsuperfetch is a winblows process06:33
lickalotthttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/08/is-zeitgeist-spying-on-you >=== average06:33
averageHey Ubuntu developers !! Hey Canonical !! Yeah I'm talking to *YOU* !!! Remove this *superfetch* nuissance !! I don't want it !! And zeitgeist too !06:34
Rastartwell i have to go please forgive me buddys...06:34
hkrSo "dpkg -l |grep zeit" didn't do it, average ?06:34
Beldarlickalott, using windows in that manner does not make you cool here and is not allowed.06:35
lickalottcheck this one out too average - http://linuxaria.com/howto/how-to-remove-zeitgeist-in-ubuntu-and-why?lang=en06:35
lickalotthuh?06:35
lickalottoh....calling it winblows?06:35
Beldaryou miss spelled it as a comment06:35
lickalottmisspelled is one word06:36
averageI hate superfetch , I hope it dies06:36
lickalottaverage superfetch is windows only06:36
Rastartwill you forgive me? promise me you not angry with me...i' m a good guy but i connected to the wrong channel..and don't lie to me i know you geeks.06:36
lickalottdo we want to continue to knitpick Beldar?06:36
Beldarlickalott, It is a channel rule.06:37
dougbbRastart: it's all good, stop apologizing and find yourself a chat channel :)06:37
lickalottlanguage type rule?06:37
arunkumar413dougbb: the other way, share laptop wired connection over wireless06:37
Rastarti dunno what a chat channel is.06:37
lickalottRastart, type /list then scroll through and find one that suites your fancy06:38
lickalottBeldar is it a language thing?06:38
Beldarlickalott, You are asked to act like an adult and be respectful, straight forward stuff.06:38
lickalottcopy06:38
lickalottit is kinda funny though...  cmon, I know you snickered a lil06:39
dougbbarunkumar413: yeah, that's what I thought you meant ... I seriously doubt you'll be able to do that, unless you can connect your laptop to the wire and then use your wireless card as an AP06:39
lickalottarunkumar413 you can do that within windows, but I've never played with it in ubuntu or *nix for that matter06:39
lickalottmaybe search "create 4G hotspot and share via ubuntu"06:40
[[thufir]]I want to create dummy upstart job creation file in /etc/init   -- are there some examples?06:40
[[thufir]]http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#respawn   is what  I want.  pardon the double post.06:41
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lickalott[[thufir]] create the script and throw it in rc2.d06:41
lickalott or creat it in init.d and softlink it to rc2.d06:42
lickalott*create06:42
dougbbbetter to do the soft link trick, files in rc*.d can have "issues"06:43
Rastartthat's really a geek trick..lickalott..you my hero..now i'm going to try that new trick and if all goes wrong i'll complain.06:43
lickalottlol...I'll be here06:44
nicklecoderCan one force VGA output of a specific resolution when no display is detected? xrandr can't find anything.06:44
lickalottnicklecoder for VPN or RDP type processes?06:45
lickalott*VNC not VPN06:45
nicklecoderjust for local processes; while I am accessing the box I through ssh, I also have access to a local terminal and can enter commands (if I type carefully, as I can't see anything).06:46
lickalottyou think it's a resolution thing with SSH?06:46
dougbbnicklecoder: are you getting any display at all?06:46
nicklecoderEssentially, I want my desktop to output VGA at 1024x768 60 hz even if it can't detect anything connected to it.06:46
nicklecoderNo display at all.06:46
nicklecoderxrandr can't even connect to the displays.06:47
lickalottthe desktop is ubuntu, i'm assuming06:47
nicklecoderyup; 13.1006:47
lickalottdesktop version06:47
lickalott?06:47
nicklecoderyeah, though I did install a server to run a local instance of gitlab for the fun of it.06:47
nicklecoder(it was installed as desktop edition, server I added in myself, but shouldn't change anything)06:48
lickalotthave you played with the resolution within the system settings to see if it makes a difference?06:48
iseeselfGuys, can someone help me with pygtk stuff?06:48
nicklecoderI have tried, but since xrandr can't connect to the display, nothing happens.06:48
lickalottdid you state your question already iseeself06:48
lickalottthe install was without display as well?06:49
nicklecoderWhen I boot, the bios screen shows fine, but when ubuntu takes over, it shows the purple screen for a sec, then the screen goes completely blank and can't tell it's connected to anything.06:49
nicklecoderThe install was with a display; I'm just trying to connect it to my tv now ;)06:49
lickalottcan you ssh into it now? (and see stuff)?06:49
nicklecoderyup.06:49
prashant_123456mehdi: hello06:49
prashant_123456shivani: hello06:49
lickalottcan you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf content?06:49
lickalottnicklecoder ^^06:49
nicklecoderActually have an open ssh shell at the moment.06:50
raspberrypifanis there a "netflix" app for ubuntu06:50
nicklecoderThe machine is working, it's just not sending anything out through VGA (though at first it does for a few seconds)06:50
lickalottif you install pastebinit you can just shoot us the url. (i.e. sudo apt-get install pastebinit06:50
lickalotthow big was the monitor used at install vs the size of your TV?06:51
prashant_123456lickalott: wgetpaste06:51
nicklecoderraspberrypifan: there's a silverlight emulator for ubuntu that I've heard makes it possible to watch netflix. Can't recall what it's called though.06:51
iseeselfI am writing a MCQ Self-Assesment test deployment program and i want to integrate a countdown timer into the test-window. i have two approach in mind, one is to add a function in an infinite loop along with gtk.main_iteration or use a subprocess that informs main program that one second has passed that inturn calls a call back to change the value of time left. The thing is, i have no idea if either of t06:51
iseeselfhese approach will work. Any suggestions?06:51
lickalottFYI the command to throw something to pastebinit is: i.e. cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit06:51
raspberrypifani like the new look of ubuntu but where is the terminal?06:52
nicklecoderThe monitor goes up to 1600x900 but the tv converter box only goes up to 1024x76806:52
lickalottctrl+shift+t raspberrypifan06:52
lickalottor you can go dig for it and add it to your "application bar"06:52
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vinseHi all06:52
vinseHow's everyone tonight06:52
nicklecoderctrl+alt+t is how it works on mine...06:52
lotuspsychje!netflix | nicklecoder06:53
ubottunicklecoder: If you use Netflix, there is an unofficial solution for using it in Ubuntu detailed in http://www.compholio.com/netflix-desktop/ - bug reports in https://bugs.launchpad.net/netflix-desktop06:53
nicklecoderor ctrl-alt-F106:53
lickalottexplain the "tv convertor box"06:53
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nicklecoderSo no way to force vga output without any known connection?06:53
lickalottits been a while since i messed with desktop, nicklecoder may be right06:53
prashant_123456vinse: hello06:54
lickalottnicklecoder explain "tv convertor box"06:54
raspberrypifanthe new app store type thing is nice but it seems to be limited in terms of repos, or does it work some other way. I haven't played with ubuntu since 200606:55
lickalottlotuspsychje was that for nicklecoder or raspberrypifan?06:55
nicklecoderI have a box that takes vga and usb(for power) on one side, and outputs svideo and rca on the other.06:55
vinseI'm having an issue with hibernating if someone has time to help. My computer fails to hibernate sometime within the day06:55
vinseOtherwise it works most of the time06:55
vinseWhen it does fail, it just starts up at the login screen again06:55
lotuspsychjelickalott: well as nicklecoder didnt remember the netflix solution, i pasted to him06:56
* bugs_bugger grabs hkr's tambourine and makes a run for it06:56
lickalotthave you ever had "that box" work correctly06:56
nicklecoderIt works when connected to my laptop, but that machine doesn't have support for 5.1 surround sound...06:56
raspberrypifanit seems this new ubuntu interface takes from os x06:56
lickalottoh.... just saw his comment to raspberrypifan.06:56
* lickalott goes back to sucking his thumb in the corner06:56
lotuspsychjevinse: maybe check around dconf-editor and check your energy options06:56
raspberrypifanthere seems to be something called pipe light so I'm trying it out06:56
nicklecoderthnx lotuspsychje; haven't been digging there for a while as hulu does me just fine.06:56
[[thufir]]lickalott: thx06:56
Fou_is there a way to remove trinity interface ?06:56
prashant_123456is anyone here using i3 window manager ?06:57
lickalottFou_, how did you make out the other night?06:57
dougbbvinse: even when suspend/hibernate works for me, I still have to reboot every few days ... things get out of sync othersie06:57
Fou_o shit06:57
dougbbs/othersie/otherwise/06:57
Fou_lickalott06:57
hkrShit06:57
Fou_whats up06:57
lickalottnada, been looking for you to follow up06:57
hkrGimme my tamberina back, bugs_bugger06:57
Fou_oooo i just maked a sofware raid06:57
lotuspsychje!language06:57
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.06:57
lotuspsychjekeep it clean guys06:57
dougbb... which reminds me, ever since 13.10 bluetooth doesn't come back after resume06:57
lickalottFou_ = potty mouth06:57
Fou_lol sorry06:58
bugs_buggerhkr: nope :-p06:58
Fou_had 8 pints of beer and a bottle of wine06:58
Fou_my bad06:58
Fou_also can not speel right lol06:58
Fou_but ...06:58
Fou_its all good06:58
FloodBot1Fou_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.06:58
bugs_buggerhkr: catch me if you can06:58
hkr>:(06:59
Fou_lol thank you floodbot106:59
lickalottlol @ Fou_  2 strikes06:59
hkrI'm getting you banned for theft.06:59
Fou_really06:59
lotuspsychjeguys stop it06:59
* lickalott gets ready to grab the timeout chair06:59
lotuspsychjeuse this channel for ubuntu support only06:59
Fou_lol wow06:59
Fou_i didn't do much06:59
Fou_i didn't know it was that sensative07:00
lotuspsychjeFou_: this isnt a chitchat channel, go to #ubuntu-offtopic for regular chat07:00
raj1991rajI was using windows before this, but since my bandwidth was decreased, i wasnt able to load facebook, fortunately i thought of using linux once, and see i could touch the cap of my bandwidth and also i successfully loaded FB. well this is pretty amazing to know that in ubuntu i know what exactly is using internet. unlikely in windows some background process like an updater automatically starts . for e.g adobe updater07:00
lickalottso nicklecoder...  any sound or have you gotten that far?07:00
Fou_well i do have stuff i like to add for help07:00
nicklecoderSound works perfectly.07:00
lickalottjust no vid07:01
prashant_123456raj1991raj: r u from india ?07:01
lickalottwhats the name of the box you're using?07:01
raj1991rajprashant_123456: ji han07:01
Jumpiebeen having a bear of a time getting ubuntu 13.10 to handle my ati drivers correctly, so i reinstalled xubuntu 12.10, supposedly more stable, but whats wierd is, both times with ubuntu 13 my lan drivers were detected immediatley upon install, asrock motherboard with standard atheros chipset...with xubuntu 12.10 it says no network connection, lspci shows the device and lshw shows network07:01
Jumpieunclaimed...device is not blacklisted07:01
Jumpieis there any possible way to try to kick start this thing or assign a geneeric driver without the hassle of trying to find a driver and put it on a usb drive07:01
Fou_lotuspsychje i have a question could you explain to me whey ubuntu can be mapped to a drive through fstab and i can not use transmission to send the files to that mapped drive ?07:01
Fou_?07:01
nicklecoderThe system itself is running fine; I can ssh in, it is responsive, it would even play music if I could figure out how to get it to, but the display disappears right after the splash screen comes on while connected to the converter box.07:01
Jumpieatheros ar817107:01
prashant_123456raj1991raj: i am also an indian guy07:01
lotuspsychje!fstab | Fou_07:01
ubottuFou_: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions07:01
Fou_you can use fstab to map or samba server to connect to another location07:02
raj1991rajprashant_123456: move to #defocus for general talk :)07:02
lotuspsychjeFou_: pastebin your fstab in channel, so other can take a look07:02
Fou_right ?07:02
Fou_i can move smal files but nothing over like 3 gigs on a ext3 or ext 407:02
lickalottor NFS Fou_ but yes, those are correct07:02
vinsedougbb I have to reboot every few hours to get it to work again :(07:02
lotuspsychjebbl07:03
lickalottnicklecoder whats the make/model of the convertor you're using?07:03
prashant_123456raj1991raj: ok ok and i am not new to linux and also to #ubuntu07:03
dougbbvinse: are you doing actual hibernate, or suspend?07:03
nicklecodersewell sw-2300007:03
prashant_123456raj1991raj: no blame to you07:03
bugs_buggerhkr: there you go: http://www.musicwithease.com/tambourine.gif. Dont wanna be a bully ;)07:03
hkr:D Thanks07:03
hkrThere is a hole in it >:( bugs_bugger!07:04
vinseI'm running the command sudo pm-hibernate07:04
prashant_123456raj1991raj: i am just here to help others07:04
Jumpieanybody?07:04
dougbbvinse: I'm not familiar with that ... what desktop do you use?07:05
vinseI'm using ubuntu07:05
bugs_buggerhkr: that was already there. by siddartha, i swear07:05
raj1991rajprashant_123456: good, well i wanted to talk in general so how about #defocus07:05
hkr:|07:05
dougbbJumpie: sounds like you've got some hardware that's focused on windows07:05
lickalottnicklecoder, run an lspci and make sure that you're videocard is being picked up.07:06
dougbbvinse: are you using regular default ubuntu ... so the unity desktop?07:06
vinseoh07:06
vinseI am using gnome shell07:06
Fou_thanks for the link lotuspsychje i guess you don't know enought to help me thanks ...07:06
dougbbvinse: Ok, is there an icon for suspend/hibernate?  Maybe if you choose log out from the menu?07:07
vinseyup I tried07:07
vinseI'm going to try installing TuxOnIce, ever heard of it?07:07
dougbbvinse, try suspend instead of hibernate .... hibernation can be very hardware specific07:07
vinsesuspend works fine07:08
vinsejust i'd like hibernate to conserve energy07:09
dougbbvinse: try web searching for 'ubuntu hibernate <your hardware>'07:09
dougbbit might not work07:09
lickalottand i'm out kids.  have fun.  nicklecoder there doesn't seem to be very much support for that box.  I would check the lspci then maybe move to the drivers for your videocard.  If all that checks out, i would take the box out of the equation (if you can) and see if going direct to the TV works.07:10
lickalottworst case - get a roku or a wdtv lol07:10
nicklecodersounds good; I'll see what I can do.07:10
lickalottor....maybe reload the OS with the system hooked up to the box/tv.... maybe that will pick up the resolution and use it as the primary monitor?07:11
lickalottjust a though.07:11
lickalottto test that theory you could run a livecd and "try" ubuntu to see if it comes up on the TV.  if that's the case then you know it's on your system (the issue)07:11
lickalottokay, g-night07:12
nicklecoderI'll try booting from usb to see if that works.07:12
raspberrypifanso theres a ubuntu for the pi?07:12
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xanguaraspberrypifan: not that I am aware of07:14
raspberrypifanah07:14
llutzraspberrypifan: ubuntu supports only armv7++ not the rpi armv607:14
raspberrypifani thin i might like the new ubuntu seems or organized and straight forward07:14
llutzbut well, there's raspbian...07:14
TeamRocket1233c3.2.0-53-generic is 3.2.53, I assume?07:15
TeamRocket1233cUsing that kernel in a 12.04 LTS VM.07:15
BeldarTeamRocket1233c, You having a problem?07:22
TeamRocket1233cNope. Just a little confused on kernel versions.07:22
bitoincmeh07:22
TeamRocket1233cNot sure if I'm using 3.2.53 or just 3.2.0.07:22
raspberrypifanwhat is something like team viewer for uubnutu07:22
BeldarTeamRocket1233c, uname -a will tell you07:23
bitoincwhats the best linux distro?07:23
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TeamRocket1233cbitoinc: dEPENDS ON PURPOSE.07:24
Beldar!best | bitoinc this is ubuntu support07:24
ubottubitoinc this is ubuntu support: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.07:24
TeamRocket1233c*caps error07:24
llutzbitoinc: the one doing what you expect it to do for you07:24
bitoincone thing?07:25
TeamRocket1233cbitoinc: If you want a completely cusotmized system that has the newest possible software, go for Arch.07:25
TeamRocket1233cbitoinc: If you want a good, stable distro that's relatively easy to use, go for Debian Stable.07:25
TeamRocket1233cbitoinc: If you want rock-solid stability and 10 years support, go for CentOS or Scienrific.07:26
llutzdiscus this please somewhere else, this is ubuntu-support07:26
TeamRocket1233cquery bitoinc07:26
bitoincthe best distro is redhat07:29
TeamRocket1233cbitoinc: I queried you to continue the convo.07:29
bitoincits the only one that people actually think its worth anything07:29
vinsehibernate works with TuxOnIce :D07:30
TeamRocket1233cbitoinc: Arch is pretty well liked, but a pain to set up.07:30
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zx42oHello, I've installed Ubuntu Desktop 12.04 LTS x64 to a USB harddrive with success however the internet connection is not working, I have searched the web for troubleshooting suggestions but have not found a working solution07:36
lotuspsychjezx42o: do you use eth cable or wifi?07:37
zx42oEth07:37
lotuspsychjezx42o: what chipset is your eth card?07:37
zx42oFrom the beginning of install a message kept popping on screen saying to the effect of "Wired connection, you have been disconnected"07:38
zx42orealtek gbe lan07:38
lotuspsychje!realtek | zx42o07:39
ubottuzx42o: some help for recent Realtek chipsets can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/RealtekRTL8187b07:39
zx42oawesome thank you07:39
lotuspsychjezx42o: you might wanna check realteks official website also for the lastest ubuntu drivers07:39
lotuspsychjezx42o: did you doublecheck your 'additional drivers' section if any drivers list?07:40
zx42oi did and nothing was listed however i just reinstalled let me check again07:40
zx42ook well this time it says "Downloading packages indexes failed, please check your network status.  Most drivers will not be available."07:41
lotuspsychjezx42o: you can lshw -C network and check whats written after driver= (for your network card)07:41
lotuspsychjezx42o: yes would be nice to have an internet connection to download latest drivers of course07:42
lotuspsychjezx42o: you can also try to add cdrom/usb to your sources and find the right drivers from there07:42
zx42odescription: Ethernet interface07:42
zx42oproduct: RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller07:43
zx42ovendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co.07:43
zx42ophysical id: 007:43
lotuspsychjezx42o: what does driver= say?07:43
zx42obus info: pci@0000:05:00.007:43
zx42othere is not a driver=, at the bottom it says output may be incomplete or inaccurate, you should run this progam as superuser07:44
lotuspsychjezx42o: do you connect internet with another pc right now?07:44
zx42osudo lshw -c network?07:44
zx42oyes a different pc07:44
lotuspsychjezx42o: try downloading latest realtek drivers for your card, and install it on the other machine07:44
zx42oim guessing i need to download the chipset drivers07:45
zx42ook  thanks07:46
lotuspsychjezx42o: yes, after it installs you can update your machine07:46
lotuspsychjezx42o: http://askubuntu.com/questions/126227/12-04-wired-network-doesnt-work-rtl8111-8168b07:47
dougbbok, thanks everyone for your help, I'm off to try some stuff07:50
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mikodoHow can I install * OpenGL 2 *  I have never had to do this before.07:55
helmut_hi07:55
lotuspsychjemikodo: do you have the latest grafix drivers installed for your card?07:57
alokyadav15Mikodo open terminal and type glxinfo07:58
mikodolotuspsychje, NO07:58
mikodoalokyadav15, Okay07:58
lotuspsychjemikodo: whats your grafix card chipset plz?07:58
mikodolotuspsychje, Is there a command I can run to get that info07:59
lotuspsychjemikodo: lshw -C video07:59
lotuspsychjemikodo: check product: and driver=08:00
MultbrelchMerry Christamas all !  - Q: I have 13.10 and it works very well! I want to create a new user but when I go on activate account it jumps back on 'account deactivated'. Any idea?08:02
lotuspsychjeMultbrelch: did you unlock it with your sudo password?08:03
Multbrelchi did08:03
alokyadav15Multbrelch: add users using sudo useradd08:04
MultbrelchI could why is this interface not working?08:04
llutzeasier to use "adduser"08:04
mikodolotuspsychje,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6615934/08:04
Multbrelchhmmm08:04
Multbrelchllutz, alokyadav15, lotuspsychje  thanks08:04
banana`need a little help, i did a chown -R www:www /home/public_html and then chmod -R g:rw *, now 'groups dev' shows my user is in www, but he cant see any files in some (all?) of the subdirectories. seems to be able to list files in first subdirectory but not any deeper directories08:05
lotuspsychjemikodo: seems like you have correct driver for your intel card..why did you need opengl 2 for again?08:05
lotuspsychjemikodo: you trying a game or so?08:05
Mithranbwhile printing a document  0f 10 pages enabling the duplex fecility it printed in such a way that half part comes normally and after that printes  a  blank papper and then prints other skipping a page08:05
llutzbanana`: directories need x (execute) permission for being accessed08:06
lotuspsychjeMithranb: what printer brand do you have?08:06
Mithranbwaht should i have to do08:06
Mithranbhp laserjet M1005 MFP08:06
mikodolotuspsychje, I installed kwin, on Xfce to invert inmages and it told me I need OpenGL 2 for it08:06
llutzbanana`: your "chmod -R g:rw *"  removed x from files AND dirs08:06
lotuspsychjeMithranb: did you install hplip tools?08:06
MultbrelchQ again: with the interface the user already is created. How to activate now the user via adduser?08:07
Mithranblotuspsychje: i dont know08:07
lotuspsychjeMithranb: install hplip tools from software centre, its more easy to support your printer08:07
banana`llutz: oh wow i didnt know that :>08:07
Mithranblotuspsychje:  how to find that is it installed or not?08:07
llutzbanana`: find /home/public_html -type d | xargs chmod g+x       as root08:07
Mithranbok08:07
banana`llutz: ty will try that08:07
lotuspsychjemikodo: kwin is the correct packagename?08:08
mikodolotuspsychje, actually I installed Kubuntu on Xubuntu then tried to run the inverse in Kwin when I got th message to get OpenGL 208:08
alokyadav15Mikodo it seems you have core2duo or core2quad CPU08:08
banana`llutz: ahh this is much better :>08:09
mikodoalokyadav15, Yes! a Quad08:09
Mithranblotuspsychje: anywaya i am triying08:09
Mithranblotuspsychje: thank yokel08:09
Mithranbyou08:09
lotuspsychjeMithranb: no prob, hope it helps your printing issue08:09
MultbrelchSolution: I deleted the user and recreated a new one with adduser08:12
MultbrelchMERRY CHRISTMAS ALL08:12
Multbrelchcu08:12
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Mithrananother problem  my network do not give permission to irc freenode how can i bypass it. They are using the firewall kerio controll08:14
hkrProxy.08:14
Mithrannetwork admibnistrator do not give permission to irc freenode how can i bypass it. They are using the firewall kerio controll08:14
mikodoHere's my computer:   http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ca/en/ho/WF06b/12132708-12133156-12133158-12133158-12133158-80626463-81225089.html?dnr=208:14
hkrWow. Genuine Vista Premium.08:15
llutzmikodo: so ask your admins to allow it. we dont support breaking companies rules08:15
hkrThats the best OS ever.08:15
mikodollutz, What admins, it's my computer at home. What am I missing?08:16
llutzmikodo: sry wrong nick08:17
llutzMithran: so ask your admins to allow it. we dont support breaking companies rules08:17
lotuspsychjehkr: this is an ubuntu support channel, join ##windows for vista talk08:17
banana`whats the solution to not having a root pw for postgres and when you try to open psql it says "root has no role, exiting"? i just installed from cmd line -- i'm thinking i have to use initdb but not sure?08:19
Mithranllutz: i always ask them and some times they grand permission but they are using the trial version of kerio controll so every month they had to reinstall it to make it effective. then we loss our previous grands.08:20
llutzMithran: so you have to ask them again and again. by bypassing companies firewall/breaking their rules you might risk your job.08:21
Mithranllutz:  ohhhhhhh08:21
Mithranllutz:  Thanks08:21
llutzMithran: in serious busines those rules aren't jokes08:22
Mithranllutz: no i am not jocking08:22
Mithranllutz: actually they are using the cracked vertion of kerio controll08:22
llutzno serious business then ... still not supported here08:23
Mithranllutz: but i dont know how to bypass it08:23
Mithranllutz:  thats y i asked it here08:24
Mithrani dont know how to bypass kerio controll fiirewall in a local network08:26
lelelehow do you set the minimum VT for desktop managers to start? both lightdm and xdm starts at VT1. never did before08:26
Mithrancan anybody help me?08:26
Mithranplease help me . i dont know how to bypass kerio controll fiirewall in a local network08:28
banana`just use webchat.freenode.net08:30
banana`in da browser08:30
aeon-ltdMithran: why?08:32
lotuspsychjei have a samsung .exe firmware that i need to uncompress with ubuntu, any package could open this?08:37
aeon-ltdlotuspsychje: i remeber doing something like this with cabextract or similar application08:37
lotuspsychje!info cabextract08:38
ubottucabextract (source: cabextract): Microsoft Cabinet file unpacker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4-4 (saucy), package size 40 kB, installed size 143 kB08:38
lotuspsychjeaeon-ltd: tnx lemme try mate08:38
olegFreenode08:38
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raj1991rajcan any one suggest me how to deal with a oversmart ubuntu user, i hope you would understand what i mean, and plz pm me08:40
aeon-ltdraj1991raj: gonna need more context08:40
lotuspsychjeaeon-ltd: lotuspsychje@RooTBooK:~/Downloads$ cabextract T-GAP8DEUC-1029.0.exe08:41
lotuspsychjeT-GAP8DEUC-1029.0.exe: no valid cabinets found08:41
raj1991rajaeon-ltd: what does it mea08:41
llutzlotuspsychje: try unapck08:41
raj1991rajmean*08:41
llutzunpack08:41
raj1991rajaeon-ltd: can i pm you08:41
lotuspsychjellutz: lemme try08:41
lotuspsychje!info unpack08:42
ubottuPackage unpack does not exist in saucy08:42
lotuspsychjellutz: doesnt find this package08:42
lotuspsychjellutz: got rar and unrar installed, doesnt wanna open in nautilus08:42
llutz!info unp | lotuspsychje08:42
ubottulotuspsychje: unp (source: unp): unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0~pre7+nmu1 (saucy), package size 16 kB, installed size 133 kB08:42
lotuspsychjeoh tnx08:42
llutzlotuspsychje: sorry had wrong name in mind08:42
hkrWhen will Ubuntu 14 be released officially ?08:43
aeon-ltdraj1991raj: explain more to the channel, don't pm me. keeping it here means there will be more users to help you08:43
lotuspsychjellutz: yes! it worked mate Extracting from T-GAP8DEUC-1029.0.exe08:44
lotuspsychjellutz: tnx alot!08:44
raj1991rajaeon-ltd: its an hacker trying to ping me, i have met it twice. so i thought i could answer him in his own way, but unfortunately i am not a hacker.08:44
llutzraj1991raj: whats the problem with a ping?08:45
raj1991rajllutz: i dont know his intention08:46
raj1991rajllutz: he wants me to click a link08:46
aeon-ltdyou just need to visual basic the gui so i can distract them to ping their ip using 2 people on one keyboard then pull the power to the monitor to kill the link08:46
banana`raj1991raj: send me all your bitcoins i will hold them in case he hacks u08:46
banana`:>08:46
edend08:47
raj1991rajbanana`: well kidding08:47
edenAnyone knows the name of the icons here? http://www.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-With-Ribbon-20619911108:47
banana`:>08:47
aeon-ltdeden: there's a link in the decription08:47
aeon-ltd*description08:47
edennot working08:47
banana`eden: yea those are nice ^_^08:48
edenaeon-ltd, i meant it works but it's definitely not those i have them08:48
banana`eden: i think they are http://tiheum.deviantart.com/art/Faenza-Icons-17332322808:48
llutzraj1991raj: you are admin and he's one of your employes? warn him, fire him. it's just a boy from down the street? ignore him08:49
edenbanana`, nah i don't think so look firefox for example08:49
banana`maybe its the iceweasel icon08:50
raj1991rajllutz: that wouldn't be interesting.08:50
banana`eden: http://www.deviantart.com/users/outgoing?http://uploaded.to/file/k1drw8v5  its in the comments actually08:51
edenbanana`, it's broken08:51
banana`ooo08:51
Sonderbladeis there a way with apt-get to check what repository a package was installed from?08:52
raj1991rajllutz: the matter is not about clicking on a link, its about someone wants to hack your pc. will you just let him go, or beat a shit out of him.(If you can)08:54
lotuspsychjellutz: tnx again mate, im upgrading my smarttv now with success08:54
lotuspsychje!cookie | llutz08:55
ubottullutz: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!08:55
aeon-ltdraj1991raj: dude, how about this show us the message08:55
llutzraj1991raj: make sure your system is configured correct and lean back.08:55
Wizari woke up to see ubuntu screen filled with random colors, latest thing i did was installing latest version of virtualbox from site,08:55
Wizarrebooting result in black screen or black screen with some garbage , ctrl-f1 and working in terminal works fine, i did uninstall virtualbox ( not sure if it was a problem in first place, now it boots to  random parts of my desktop ploted around random locations of my screen, in minimal resolution,  its not gpu beacuse im running windows curently on same machine08:55
llutzraj1991raj: if you really feel attacked, send his ISP an abuse-report08:56
raj1991rajllutz: wish i knew his ISP, i am not a hacker like him08:56
TeamRocket1233cAs far as LTS not using FF ESR, I assume there's an FF ESR PPA like there is an FF Nightly and FF Aurora PPA.08:57
aeon-ltdraj1991raj: are there a lot of isps in ahmedabad?08:57
Wizaris there any way to reset graphic system to resonable defaults?08:57
aeon-ltdWizar: uninstall and purge all drivers? reinstall X?08:58
aeon-ltdraj1991raj: can we see this ping message?08:58
raj1991rajaeon-ltd: i dont know where he is from08:58
TeamRocket1233cBecause for some reason ESR seems more appropriate on 12.04 or 14.04 than stable.08:59
raj1991rajaeon-ltd: he smply wants me click on a link08:59
aeon-ltdraj1991raj: can we see a screenshot?08:59
llutzraj1991raj: may i ask how old you are?08:59
raj1991rajllutz: why does it matter09:00
aeon-ltd1991...09:00
raj1991rajaeon-ltd: is  smart09:00
aeon-ltd...09:00
llutzraj1991raj: because this sound more like 200109:01
aeon-ltdthe screenshot is because i'm interested to see how they are doing this09:01
aksmdadoes anybody know if wibom is working up to date (Wine Emulator)09:01
raj1991rajaeon-ltd: its just a link to some random image09:01
raj1991rajscontent-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1452415_251226931695551_1642428427_n.jpg this is his link09:02
raj1991raji wonder what it is09:02
aeon-ltdbut how are you recieving this?09:02
aeon-ltdfbcdn facebook content distribution network...09:03
aksmdaforget it im gonna try dosbox09:04
raj1991rajaeon-ltd: i think he has some bad intention thats why he keeps on making a damn stupid story about a thin girl who wants to be fat, and keeps talking to me09:09
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aeon-ltdraj1991raj: but how is he doing this?09:10
llutzraj1991raj: could you please stop that childish nonsense here. this is ubuntu-support channel, do you have any related question?09:10
raj1991rajaeon-ltd: i dont know, he is here in irc and pmming all the users09:11
llutz /join #freenode and complain raj1991raj09:11
raj1991rajllutz: very funny, he is there in freenode09:12
raj1991rajllutz: i am not kid you kiddo09:12
llutzand? ask the ops to stop him ra09:12
raj1991rajllutz: if i do that he will surely take action, and i am pretty sure he is smart enough to do that09:13
llutz!ot | raj1991raj09:13
ubotturaj1991raj: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!09:13
aeon-ltdwut?09:13
aeon-ltdraj1991raj: sounds like a troll, mostly harmless09:14
Reg__Hi. i wanna learn inside out of linux how it works. Like what are libraris, system call, how network communication takes place etc. is there a structured source available to learn this. in the sense a structured book to teach all this.09:14
the_drowHi, I'm trying to install redis from this PPA https://launchpad.net/~chris-lea/+archive/redis-server and after I add it and sudo apt-get update I still can't install it using sudo apt-get install redis09:15
averagehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvMiXk2gGSk09:15
the_drowCan anyone confirm that this is the case on their end as well09:15
the_drowHmm that's strange. It replaces redis-server and yet the package name on launchpad is redis09:19
imghostthe_drow, did you notice the ppa? its written redis-server09:21
the_drowimghost: but the package's name is redis no?09:22
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imghostthe_drow, i opened the link its clearly written redis-server on the top of the page09:22
the_drowBut see the list of packages below09:23
imghostthe_drow, contact chris lea :)09:23
the_drowIs he here?09:23
imghostthe_drow, do this login at launchapd and put one comment regarding this:) so that creater of this ppa will assists you:)09:25
imghostthe_drow, 3rd party ppas are not supported here :)09:26
kdzhi09:33
xyzneed to install ubuntu precise on a desktop, but the PC refuses to recognize the installer media. The only error message it gives is "Boot error : no boot device"09:34
xyzthe same install media works fine on another machine09:34
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imghostxyz, are you using uefi?09:37
banana`anyone know if you can install ubuntu from an iso w/ daemon tools on windows, can i just nuke windows somehow but keep it long enuf to install a real os09:38
xyzimghost: I don't think so. its and old PC, and win 7 install works fine09:38
imghostxyz, ok, dual boot?09:40
xyzimghost: even regular boot doesn't work. just trying to boot the startup disk here09:40
imghostxyz, try to repair the grub boot loader09:42
xyzimghost: I can't boot into live environment...09:42
averagexyz: what error ?09:43
averagexyz: ah I see09:43
averagexyz: did you set boot order in BIOS ?09:43
xyzyes09:43
averageare you sure ?09:43
xyzyes09:44
xyzotherwise it boots into windows from HDD09:44
imghostxyz, did you create a seperate partition for ubuntu?09:44
averagebanana`: I don't think I've ever seen that thing with daemon tools. I usually just write the iso on a usb stick with unetbootin or usb-creator-gtk and then I reboot and install ...09:45
xyzimghost: I would, if the pendrive booted up09:45
banana`average: yea thats a good idea, would be so nice to fresh intall without burning cds tho09:46
imghostxyz, try to repair your boot from windows installation media09:46
xyzimghost: the HDD boots fine. win 7 installer boots fine, but precise refuses to boot09:47
imghostxyz, try to boot it  with dvd09:48
xyzimghost: tried that too09:48
xyzworks in laptop, but not in target machine09:48
biomanHello09:49
biomanJust tried Xfce 4.1109:49
Dudytzhi all! the /etc/fstab is used to mount the file systems. It's possible to mantain only the file /etc/fstab file in the etc dir of root dir and mount the really /etc to another partition?09:49
imghostxyz, both the machines are of same architecture ? i mean both 32 or both 64 bits?09:49
biomanPlease how to get unfied fonts ? (the icons font is different than the one you have in appearance)09:49
xyzimghost: both are 64bit09:50
biomanusing xunbuntu 13.1009:51
llutzDudytz: that would need more than just fstab, there are more scripts and configs in involved in bootprocess residing in /etc09:51
llutzDudytz: check the init-scripts, all stuff running before mountall is finished would be needed (afaik)09:52
imghostxyz, update your bios, because you are not able to boot from cd, usb so i think there is problem in bios settings only09:52
biomannobody ?09:52
xyzimghost: but win7 install boots :/09:52
imghostxyz, from hdd right? but not from usb or dvd right?09:53
xyzimghost: win7 is installed in HDD. and I have win7 installer in USB too. both work09:54
pangpond??09:54
imghostxyz, both works??09:54
xyzbut Ubuntu USB / DVD both fail09:55
imghostxyz, try to download the 12.04.3lts again from ubuntu website and make the live usb, dvd once again09:55
cristian_cHi09:56
kdzanyone here that can help wit rtorrent09:56
MonkeyDustkdz  let's hear it09:57
cristian_cHow can I change coding in a webpage in a browser, for example chromium?09:57
cristian_ca .txt file09:57
cristian_cAny ideas?09:57
MonkeyDust!html | cristian_c09:58
ubottucristian_c: html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build web pages. WYSIWYG editors: KompoZer (was Nvu), Iceape Composer, Amaya (Hardy or earlier) - Development environments: Bluefish, Quanta+ - For a howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com/09:58
imghostxyz, did you insert the usb on your windows7? its might possible that antivirus of your win7 deleted files from the usb so make it again09:58
averagecristian_c: F1209:58
cristian_cMonkeyDust, utf-8, iso, ecc...? :O09:58
averagecristian_c: get the inspector, change whatever...09:58
cristian_caverage, ok09:58
lotuspsychjekdz: did you try transmission?09:59
kdznope09:59
averagekdz: what help do you need with rtorrent ?09:59
kdzhave rutorrent and rtorrent installed already09:59
lotuspsychje!info transmission | kdz09:59
ubottukdz: transmission (source: transmission): lightweight BitTorrent client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.82-0ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 1 kB, installed size 29 kB09:59
averagekdz: and why are you using rtorrnet ?09:59
averagekdz: it's mostly for console...09:59
kdzim using console09:59
averagekdz: ok, and what help do you need with it ?09:59
kdzrtorrent and rutorrent09:59
kdzok so i set up multiple users10:00
kdzthe main users, main1 it works via web interface10:00
cristian_caverage, which tab?10:00
kdzmain2 complaines about scgi port error10:00
averagecristian_c: press the magnifying glass and select an element on the page10:00
kdzin browser10:00
biomanAnybody uses Xubuntu with Xfce 4.11 ?10:01
cristian_caverage, whatever elements?10:02
cristian_caverage, but it's the Find function10:03
cristian_c:O10:03
aeon-ltdbioman: somebody does, ask your next question10:03
averagecristian_c: https://developers.google.com/chrome-developer-tools/docs/console#inspecting_dom_elements_and_javascript_heap_objects10:04
kdzaverage did you get my replies?10:04
averagecristian_c: https://developers.google.com/chrome-developer-tools/10:04
averagekdz: yes, uhm..10:04
averagekdz: I don't have rutorrent installed10:04
biomanaeon-ltd: I've asked my question, font issue10:04
averagekdz: I use rtorrent. You told me you use rtorrent in a console...10:04
kdzand rutorrent10:05
averagekdz: now you're telling me you use a web frontend for it...10:05
kdzok well i should add im like 1 week new to ubuntu10:05
kdzso i may not understand your comments/questions10:05
cristian_caverage, and then?10:05
averagecristian_c: and then read those pages, and learn how to use chrome10:06
cristian_cavelldiroll, ok, but I don't see something related to the coding10:06
cristian_caverage, ok, but I don't see something related to the coding10:07
averagecristian_c: what do you mean coding ? do you mean *en* coding ?10:07
cristian_c<cristian_c> MonkeyDust, utf-8, iso, ecc...? :O10:07
averagewhat's "coding" ?10:07
cristian_c*etc10:08
averagecristian_c: see here how to change the encoding https://support.google.com/news/answer/61689?hl=en10:08
cristian_cok10:09
averagecristian_c: and ask chrome questions in the chrome channel, not here10:09
averagecristian_c: this is #ubuntu , did you know that ?10:09
aeon-ltdbioman: generally desktop environments have appearence managers which handles fonts, though applications can set their own fonts10:09
cristian_caverage, I'm using chromium10:10
biomanaeon-ltd: ?10:10
aeon-ltdbioman: like this http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-settings/appearance10:10
averagecristian_c: chromium channel, same thing. did you notice that this is #ubuntu ?10:10
cristian_caverage, ok, I'll ask in the chromium-channel10:11
cristian_c--10:11
averageok great10:11
banana`anyone have an opinion on redis over mysql and postgres? my use case is a high traffic sharded server that would be great if it was backed up like every change (or version control or something) i was going to shard it, IDK.. storing tons of records, of small data, not large records10:11
biomanaeon-ltd: okay, but why changing font in appearance won't change for icons10:12
averagebanana`: try both, and decide later10:12
banana`average: word10:12
averagebanana`: you wrote very little details about your db schema or what data you store or structure...10:13
averagewessssssss: look who's here !10:13
aeon-ltdbioman: hmmm.. were they unified before?10:13
wessssssssso,10:13
averagewessssssss: were you able to make that work ?10:13
biomanaeon-ltd: with 4.10, yep10:13
wessssssssnot sure if it worked or not10:13
averagewessssssss: ?10:13
wesssssssswell, i logged in10:13
averagewessssssss: and ?10:14
wessssssssand my old ubuntu still seemed to be there10:14
wessssssssstill cant update10:14
banana`average: its just a ton of tiny records (txt/ints) and 10s millions of rows10:14
wessssssssso i logged out10:14
wesssssssslogged back in10:14
averagewessssssss: well did you install a new one ?10:14
wessssssssbut this time selected10:14
santa_banananannanannanna10:14
wessssssssubuntu 2d10:14
wessssssssat the log in screen10:14
averagebanana`: dude, that's not enough to know the db schema, do you understand ?10:15
wessssssssand it seems like a new account10:15
banana`average: ive never sharded on mysql, but it would be great to replicate the db.. sharding/replication on mysql seems kinda hard10:15
wessssssssbut10:15
wessssssssmy old background screen is still there10:15
averagebanana`: that's like very loosely worded "I have a db with tiny records txt ints strings" <=== ALL DBs are LIKE THAT10:15
banana`not really10:15
averageyes really10:15
averagenow either you describe what you have or stop asking10:15
banana`what if they are binary blobs ;d10:15
wessssssssi click the gear in the upper right10:15
wessssssssit says software is up to date10:16
averagebanana`: if they are binary blobs then you go to #mysql or #postgres or #redis and ask there10:16
banana`coolio10:16
wessssssssso im kind of concfused10:16
wessssssss*cornfused10:16
averagewessssssss: did you install it on the same disk ? did you nuke your old install or something ?10:17
ObrienDavebioman, log out then back in for font change to take effect10:17
wessssssssi just booted from the usb10:17
averagewessssssss: I was assuming you would nuke your disk and reinstall from scratch with the usb disk ..10:17
wessssssssran the install10:17
wessssssssooooh10:17
averagewessssssss: so did you install from usb ? cause you're supposed to install from the usb . if you just booted from it, that's just the live ubuntu you're running..10:17
wesssssssswell i didnt want to loose my windows10:17
wessssssssso i didnt format the disc10:18
averagewessssssss: if you don't wanna loose your windows, then just nuke your non-ntfs and non-fat32 partitions10:18
wessssssssooooh ok10:18
JoFoHello10:18
averageJoFo: hey, what's new ?10:18
wesssssssscan i do that from windows?10:18
aeon-ltdbioman: you can override stuff in .gtkrc-2.0 do you have anything in the file that might change fonts?10:18
averagewessssssss: no you cannot. but you can do it in the ubuntu install proces at one of the steps. it will recommend you "erase everything" or "erase ubuntu" or "manual" and you go for manual10:19
wessssssssok10:19
wessssssssthats easy enough10:19
averageyep10:20
wesssssssshow about th is10:20
wesssssssswhat if i went into windows10:20
averageyes, what if ?10:20
wesssssssserased my ntfs 60gb partition that i originally thought was going to be for ubuntu10:20
wesssssssswould that be available during the install?10:20
averageyou don't really want to install ubuntu on an ntfs partition10:21
wessssssssright,10:21
Sonderbladehow do you solve this apt-get problem: libcairo2-dev : Dependent of: libcairo2 (= 1.10.2-6.1ubuntu3) but 1.10.2-6.1ubuntu3ppa2 will be installed?10:21
wesssssssswhich is why i would erase the partition10:21
wessssssssand just leave it open10:21
cristian_caverage, ok, I've displayed the different endings for a .txt in a browser, but I don't know how to convert it with gedit10:22
averageyou want to install ubuntu on an ext4/ext3/ext2 partition, and have a swap partition which is twice the size of your ram memory size. <=== that's the easiest way to partition for an ubuntu install (there are other ones more complicated but you don't need that)10:22
cristian_caverage, gedit doesn't open it correctly10:22
averagewessssssss: ^^10:22
* TeamRocket1233c uses Archbang as his main OS, but installs Ubuntu and Debian in Vbox to mess with occasionally.10:22
JoFoI’ve tried to install scim anthy on Ubuntu 13.10, but all I was able to get was an im (I don’t know its name) which allowed me to type any character from its hexadecimal Unicode number. I haven’t been able to fet a rōmaji → hiragana → kana + kanji conversion and, the cherry on the cake, I was unable to use my keyboard dead keys.10:22
wessssssssok10:22
JoFoAnybody using Anthy with SCIM on Ubuntu 13.10?10:23
TeamRocket1233cAnyways, G2G. Almost 4am.10:23
averagecristian_c: hey listen. this is #ubuntu , it's not #chromium nor is it #chrome. you wanna get your question answered, it's important for you, then go to #chromium or #chrome and ask there. ok ?10:23
wessssssssthanks so much for the help, average.  don't you ever sleep?10:23
cristian_caverage, but if I ask this question (about gedit) they send me back here10:24
mnemonSonderblade: by not using 3rd party ppas or finding one that includes the -dev too :)10:24
averagewessssssss: I don't sleep, I have mountains of work to do10:24
cristian_caverage, they don't deal with text editors10:24
wessssssssok, well ill try again10:24
averagewessssssss: and I can't get any weed/pot because I live in eastern europe so that sucks really bad..10:24
wessssssssttyl10:25
Sonderblademnemon: how does that solve my current problem?10:25
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mnemonSonderblade: disable the 3rd party ppa that *ppa2 package is from, install the normal libcairo2, install libcairo2-dev -> solved.10:26
mnemonbut i don't know what you're using it for ..10:26
averagecristian_c: you know why they're not helping you ? because you don't know how to state your problem10:26
averagecristian_c: let me break this down for you. your problem has nothing to do with browsers10:27
averagecristian_c: you have a text file which has a particular encoding right ? and you want to convert it to a different encoding10:27
averagecristian_c: is that correct ?10:27
cristian_caverage, yes10:27
averagecristian_c: that is great10:28
Sonderblademnemon: that ppa already is disabled10:28
mnemonSonderblade: you need to reinstall the libcairo2 package then10:28
cristian_caverage, I've got a .txt file written in iso-8859-1510:28
biomanaeon-ltd: not at all10:28
averagecristian_c: now listen here10:28
averagecristian_c: there is something that does what you want. it's called iconv10:29
cristian_caverage, browser displays it correctly, gedit doesn't10:29
cristian_cok10:29
averagecristian_c: dude, don't let me catch you writing the word "browser" in this conversation again, ok ? we already established this has nothing to do with your browser10:29
averagecristian_c: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/en/man1/iconv.1.html10:29
cristian_cit's a different visualization10:29
mnemonSonderblade: you could also try something like apt-get -f install libcairo2-dev ...10:30
cristian_cI'll try with iconv10:30
Sonderblademnemon: apt-get says reinstallation of libcairo2 is not possible10:30
averagecristian_c: what's the original encoding of the file ?10:30
cristian_c<cristian_c> average, I've got a .txt file written in iso-8859-1510:31
cristian_cI think that if I convert to utf-8, text will be displayed correctly10:31
averagecristian_c: how do you know it's iso-8859-15 ?10:31
averagecristian_c: waaaaait..10:31
averagecristian_c: how do you know it's iso-8859-15 ?10:31
averagecristian_c: is that a guess or.. ?10:32
cristian_caverage, Save as in gedit, for example10:32
averageok, so you don't know it's iso-8859-1510:32
cristian_cOccidental10:32
cristian_caverage, no, I jnow10:33
cristian_c*know10:33
averagehow do you know ?10:33
bekkscristian_c: How do you know?10:33
cristian_caverage, yes10:33
averageyes what ?10:33
cristian_c*bekks, yes10:33
cristian_csorry10:33
averagecristian_c: ok let's cut this short10:33
cristian_c<cristian_c> average, Save as in gedit, for example10:33
averagedo        curl -v <url_of_file>10:33
cristian_cok10:33
averagelook in the response headers for the header "Content-Encoding"10:33
averageand tell me what the response encoding is10:34
bekkscristian_c: That how you want it to be saved, not how it gets saved.10:34
arunkumar413how to instlall oracle java10:34
averagecristian_c: the response headers are the ones starting with <10:34
bekks!jdk | arunkumar41310:34
cristian_cbekks, no, I can change, but it detected automatically10:34
bekks!java | arunkumar41310:34
ubottuarunkumar413: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.10:34
cristian_cthe encoding10:34
VitoCorleoneHi.10:35
bekkscristian_c: Then you dont even know how it gets saved since it overwrites your choice.10:35
averagecristian_c: no it didn't detect10:35
arunkumar413jdk, jre they're confusing a lot10:35
bekksarunkumar413: Java Development Kit and Java Runtime Environment. JDK & JRE. Not that confusing.10:36
averagearunkumar413: use the ppa repository http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html10:36
averagearunkumar413: follow that stuff and you'll have jdk and jre real fast10:36
averagecristian_c: did you try that curl command ?10:36
mnemonSonderblade: if nothing else works, download the current version and dpkg --force install it(see dpkg --force-help, might break things if you have other packages installed that depend on the ppa version).10:37
averagecristian_c: here's an alternative, if there is no Content-Encoding response header. Use enca which is an encoding analyzer. You can find it in the enca package in ubuntu. It will try to guess the encoding for you. It's not 100% .10:38
cristian_caverage, yes i've tried that command10:38
averagecristian_c: what did you get ?10:38
cristian_c<average> cristian_c: no it didn't detect10:39
averagecristian_c: which command ? enca or curl ?10:39
bekkscristian_c: Whats the output of "file yourtextfile"?10:39
cristian_cIf I click on Open in gedit, I find in the bottom: chars encoding, auto-recognition10:40
Sonderblademnemon: sudo aptitude install libcairo2=1.10.2-6.1ubuntu3 did work, but it's weird that i had to add the version specifier10:40
averagecristian_c: yeah, and gedit doesn't guess the encoding correctly, cause that's why it doesn't show up correctly because that's why you're here asking us stuff right ?10:41
cristian_caverage, I've checked in the output of the curl command, but I don't find Content-Encoding in the header10:41
mnemonSonderblade: probably didn't want to downgrade :P10:41
bekkscristian_c: Forget gedit for encoding detection.10:41
averagegedit sucks10:41
averageuse enca to detect the encoding10:42
cristian_cbekks, I'll try with the 'file' command10:42
bekkscristian_c: Whats the output of "enca yourfilename" and "file yourfilename"?10:42
averagecristian_c: are you planning on answering bekks question ?10:43
Sonderblademnemon: i think it should have done that when it saw that i had removed the ppa10:43
cristian_cbekks, modulowordpad.txt: Non-ISO extended-ASCII text, with CRLF line terminators10:43
bekkscristian_c: So its not ISO-8859-1 at all.10:44
average:)10:44
bekkscristian_c: Basically it's some weird mess gedit produced.10:44
cristian_cbekks, I'll try with enca command10:44
bekkscristian_c: USe a sane editor, enca will not magically change the encoding.10:44
cristian_cI'm installing enca10:45
averagegreat10:45
bekksfinally.10:45
cristian_cenca: Language `it' is unknown or not supported.10:47
arunkumar413average: getting this error: http://pastebin.com/T6VDcdcP10:48
averagecristian_c: can you write the url here ?10:48
MonkeyDustfrom apt-cache show enca: "Currently it supports Belarusian, Bulgarian, Croatian, Czech, Estonian, Hungarian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Polish, Russian, Slovak, Slovene, Ukrainian, Chinese, and some multibyte encodings independently on language."10:48
lineahow i set rsyslog.conf10:49
cristian_caverage, this is the url: http://spazioweb.inwind.it/flaccessori/moduli/modulowordpad.txt10:49
averagearunkumar413:10:49
averageE: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).10:49
averagearun@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get -f install oracle-java7-installer10:49
averagearunkumar413: ^^ so it told you to run without parameters, but you insisting running the same command with parameters10:49
averagearunkumar413: you are stubborn10:49
averagearunkumar413: sudo apt-get -f install10:49
cristian_conce downloaded the .txt file, I've to open it in a text editor correctly10:49
averagearunkumar413: no parameters10:49
lineahi10:50
arunkumar413average: tried that but no use10:51
averagearunkumar413: whatever10:51
lineai want  configure rsyslog.conf on ubuntu12.0410:51
averagearunkumar413: that's where I install my jdk and jre and it works fine. if it doesn't work for you, tough luck (try with openjdk instead)10:51
arunkumar413average: without the parameter still getting the error: http://pastebin.com/Lfr2tQYa10:53
averagearunkumar413: whatever, deal with it10:53
averagearunkumar413: you still ran it with a parameter instead of no parameters as I told you10:54
averagearunkumar413: I don't know what part you don't understand10:54
averagearunkumar413: no parameters. no parameters. what is so hard to understand about that ?10:54
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arunkumar413by parameter u mean to say -f or oracle-java7-installer10:55
cristian_caverage, ok, I've solved. I've added an encoding in gedit. It was displayed correctly with Windows-1252, Occidental10:55
averagearunkumar413: what do you think I mean to say ?10:55
gguuhi. i use gentoo, but i found a description on a ubuntu site and i hope the ubuntu people can help me better. i want to save my vhs video. i play the videos with vlc (http://pastebin.com/Z9AEmggW) and it works fine but i don't have any sound. in /dev/ i can not find "alsa" but i have a new mixer - mixer1. how can i start the vlc with this mixer? in other way , i  use this description http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/EasyCAP_DC60_USB_Audio_un10:56
averagecristian_c: great, at least now you know it wasn't iso-8859-1510:56
gguucat /proc/asound/cards and i dont have "1 controlle". what can i do? sorry for my english10:56
arunkumar413average: -f10:57
averagegguu: chmod 777 all your sound devices10:57
averagegguu: use gnome-sound-applet and go in there and select the correct device for output10:57
gguuaverage: what are my sound devices? mixer and mixer1?10:57
averagegguu: make sure you can playback a video that has audio and you hear stuff on your speaker/headphones/whatever10:57
averagearunkumar413: really ? -f ?10:58
cristian_caverage, maybe you hate it, but the browser display correctly with iso-8859-1 and windows-1252, but not utf-810:58
cristian_call the three encodings are Occidental10:58
cristian_c:)10:58
gguuaverage: i am sure my vhs has audio but i don't know how to play the video that i hear audio10:58
averagewhat's a vhs ? is that a format ?10:59
averagei never heard that acronym before10:59
cristian_cthe text editor displays correctly the file only with windows-125210:59
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averageis it a video cassette player ?10:59
gguuyes, it is a video cassette player10:59
* kdz pvts average10:59
kdzstill not getting this rutorrent going11:00
MonkeyDustvhs, pure nostalgia :)11:00
Guest40331Hello Please, I want to help, I have a phone iphone and worked his mise a jour turns off after began working ignites image apple and goes off on this topic, and so the case, the solution please11:00
MonkeyDust!iphone | Guest40331 try here11:00
ubottuGuest40331 try here: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod11:00
gguuaverage: and i use this description wiki.ubuntuusers.de/EasyCAP_DC60_USB_Audio_und_Videograbber my first problem ist the line "cat /proc/asound/cards". i don't have the "1 controlle"11:01
arunkumar413I've tried removing both  -f and oracle-java7-installer. its not working11:02
averagegguu: that vhs is above me. I recommend you take it to a store and tell them to give you back a video like .mp4 , or .avi or .wmv or something that you can work with11:05
averagegguu: unless your video is super-private and you don't want other people to see it...11:06
gguuaverage: i try to do it myself11:06
gguuwith my grabber11:06
arunkumar413average: http://pastebin.com/wgQtkZ0c11:07
averagearunkumar413: sudo aptitude update11:09
averagearunkumar413: sudo aptitude install linux-generic11:09
lineahow to edit rsyslog.conf11:09
averagearunkumar413: sudo apt-get -f install11:09
averagelinea: with a text editor11:09
lineaam using ubuntu12.0411:09
averagelinea: sudo nano /etc/rsyslog.conf11:10
lineai want configure rsyslog server11:10
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lineai have central server and client server11:10
averagelinea: if you don't know how to open a text file, how are you going to manage configuring a log server I wonder...11:10
MonkeyDustlinea  is that a 12.04 server? if yes, try #ubuntu-server -- also: choose one of these links https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+rsyslog.conf11:10
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averagegguu: maybe try to connect the SCART of your VHS to some video input on your machine and the audio output of your VHS to the audio input of your machine11:12
envykumarhi11:12
averagegguu: first try to play the sound in some way.. and make sure you can make the sound work11:12
averagegguu: then try to get the video stream11:12
averagegguu: once you have these two separate, maybe you can find a way to record both into a .mp4 or something using ffmpeg11:13
averagegguu: although it would take lots of time until you would get it right. I would really take it to a store or something if you need it fast.11:13
averagehey wessssssss , how goes it ? does it work now ?11:14
wessssssssIm at the partition screen11:15
wessssssssHow should i set it up?11:15
MonkeyDustwessssssss  how much space is available?11:15
wessssssss75 gb11:16
gguuaverage: yes i try but the german tutorial says the "cat /proc/asound/cards " must show me "1 controlle" but i don't have this.11:16
MonkeyDustwessssssss  75 gb free for use?11:16
arunkumar413average: http://pastebin.com/jDS7sHGq11:17
wessssssssWell i have all these small partitions that i want to combine11:17
wessssssssBefore i had deleted all the smaller ones and it was a total of 75 gb of free space11:17
MonkeyDustwessssssss  in a terminal, paste this line     sudo apt-get install pastebinit;lsblk|pastebinit     then paste the url here11:18
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wessssssssBut i chickrened out and reverted to the old table11:18
zztoplessHi everybody.11:19
envykumarhi11:19
MonkeyDustzztopless  you know what zztop means?11:19
averagewessssssss: just wipe out your non-ntfs and non-fat32 stuff and make 2 partitions. A big one of type ext4 where all your ubuntu OS will live and another one of type swap whch will be twice the size of your ram. then select the big one you created and go to the next step of the install11:19
zztoplessI have a technical question: How to I set up Ubuntu (clean install) to make it do my christmas shopping that I may or may not have left to the last minute?11:19
zztoplessIt means I have legs... :P11:19
zztoplessShould11:20
wessssssssOk so is the big one primary or logical?11:20
zztoplesssorry, wrong window11:20
averagelogical is ok too11:21
averagelogical11:21
zztoplessillogical of course lol... should probably be in #ubuntu-offtopic now though :P11:21
averagearunkumar413: your ubuntu install is broken. reinstall.11:21
wessssssssMount point?11:22
arunkumar413average: just the kernal image or the entire os11:22
averagewessssssss: yes, mount point is /11:22
averagearunkumar413: wipe it out and reinstall. stop asking so many questions11:22
lineahow i create per user logs in each directory using rsyslog  server11:24
averagelinea: read the manpage11:24
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randomcppdoes anyone here ever connected an old 2.5'' hd (5400rpm) through esata port? I need an advice :)11:31
averagerandomcpp: probably if you have connectors..11:31
averagerandomcpp: convertors...11:31
averageadaptors11:32
averagerandomcpp: but why bother ?11:32
randomcppaverage, I'd only need to know if a power supply is required or not..I'm not finding a real answers on internet..11:32
randomcppI have to buy the right sata-esata cable11:33
bekks2.5" devices dont need an external power source for esata.11:33
wessssssssAverage, how should i mark the mount point of the swap drive?11:33
wessssssssOh nmd11:34
bekksrandomcpp: There is just one esata cable. The other is named esatap.11:34
averagerandomcpp: any hdd I've seen so far needs 2 things plugged into it : 1) power cable 2) data cable .  Only the external hdds are on usb and thus need only 1 cable.11:34
averagewessssssss: swap has no mount point :)11:34
bekksaverage: you never dealt with esata, didnt you? :)11:34
wessssssssOk11:34
averagebekks: I haven't dealt with it. You are correct.11:34
wessssssssWe are under way11:35
randomcppbekks, it was an internal hd before..(inside a laptop)11:35
averagebekks: I guess my assumption about 2 cables was wrong ?11:35
averagewessssssss: awesome :) is it installing ?11:35
wessssssssYes11:35
randomcppbekks, do you think this could fit my needs http://amzn.to/1fxnqDl ?11:37
averagerandomcpp: have you checked what transfer rate you get and if you're comfortable with that ?11:39
randomcppI don't really care about transfer rates, since I'll use it to store data (backups mostly)11:41
randomcpp(here's a photo of the hd http://imgur.com/RmeicR4 just in case)11:42
bekksrandomcpp: That doesnt help. The connectors of the casing would be interesting.11:43
BluesKajHiyas all11:43
randomcpphttp://i.imgur.com/VvRV7Ih.jpg11:44
randomcppbekks, ^^^11:44
bekksThats not the casing. Those are the connectors of the disk, which arent esata obviously.11:45
hellyeahhey11:46
hellyeahi wonder11:46
hellyeahdo ubuntu download something without my command?11:46
bekkshellyeah: No..11:46
knightshadeHello11:46
lotuspsychjehellyeah: you suspect you have a rootkit?11:46
hellyeahi am not sure about rootkit11:47
bekkshellyeah: Except the updated package lists forthe ability of installing updated packages. Which is normal and not harmfull.11:47
hellyeahrootkit is like spyware or trojan?11:47
lotuspsychje!info rkhunter | hellyeah11:47
ubottuhellyeah: rkhunter (source: rkhunter): rootkit, backdoor, sniffer and exploit scanner. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.0-3 (saucy), package size 205 kB, installed size 876 kB11:47
randomcppbekks, so the cable I showed you before won't work?11:47
bekksrandomcpp: It will work.11:48
hellyeahhttps://fixubuntu.com/ what do you think about this website11:48
lotuspsychjehellyeah: would be rare if this is your case, but its always good to stay cautious11:48
lotuspsychjehellyeah: maybe you can explain whats happening to your system/bandwith?11:49
hellyeahi dont know i am just asking about that11:49
hellyeahjust this idea cam this to me recently11:49
hellyeahi have some limits on my internet11:50
lotuspsychjehellyeah: nobody can run sudo actions or commands without your password (if you didnt share pass)11:51
lotuspsychjehellyeah: but its possible even on ubuntu, that a system got an intrusion11:51
bekkslotuspsychje: Thats not true. You can configure sudo to run commands without a password.11:51
lotuspsychjebekks: on an updated system?11:52
bekkslotuspsychje: Sure. On every ubuntu you can do that.11:52
randomcppbekks, ok I think I'll order that one in this case, thank you!11:52
hellyeahlotuspsychje:  what do you tyhink about this web site? https://fixubuntu.com/11:52
lotuspsychjebekks: so if there's a rootkit on the system, anything could happen?11:52
hellyeahi want to remove commercial package in ubuntu11:53
hellyeahhow can i do that11:54
mnemon"commercial package" ?11:54
lotuspsychjeso far for security then :p11:54
hellyeahmeatmanek:  i dont know for exaple when i login facebook ubuntu ask me about login from system with opening some page11:55
hellyeahextra page*11:55
lotuspsychjebekks: got an url on how that works?11:56
bekkslotuspsychje: It has nothing to do with a root kit. It is a standard option for configuring your sudoers access.11:56
lotuspsychjebekks: does that mean if you can access the ubuntu machine, anyone can run sudo commands?11:57
lotuspsychjebekks: even other users then root?11:57
bekkslotuspsychje: It means: you _can_ configure your sudo access to run commands as root without entering a password.11:57
lotuspsychjeright11:58
bekkslotuspsychje: That applies to other users, too, of course.11:58
mnemonhellyeah: to your original question: ubuntu has auto-update and by default it does some internet searches etc. when you use unity.11:58
lotuspsychjebekks: that sounds really scary :p11:58
hellyeahi dont want ubuntu download or update anything automatically11:58
hellyeahi want to close it up you have any suggestion11:59
wessssssAverage, I'm good to go. Thanks so much for all your help!12:00
alokyadav15Hellyeah: disable it manually but its not a good practice12:01
hellyeahwhy?12:02
hellyeahjust wondering12:02
alokyadav15Updates contain critical bug fixes some of the serious as remove code execution vulnerability fixes12:03
SrRavenAnyone here in the mood and got time to help me get either 1) ubuntu to work again (get black screen after logging in) or formatting it again12:03
alokyadav15*Remote12:03
MonkeyDustSrRaven  stil struggling with the mac?12:05
SrRavenyes12:05
SrRavenit worked perfectly till I restarted12:05
SrRavennow...all fcked12:05
SrRavensorry about language,forgot its early :/12:06
mnemonhellyeah: remove most of the unity-lens-* stuff or there's a thing in the settings GUI somewhere to stop those from goin to the internets, can't remember what the auto-update package is but you could remove that too :P12:07
hellyeahthe issue is i am staying in my sister's husband home12:07
hellyeahand when happen to the internet12:08
hellyeahhe directly asked did you do any download :D:D:D12:08
lotuspsychjeSrRaven: wich version have you been able to install on that mac?12:10
SrRavenI went with 13.10 as I was told to do12:10
SrRavenI guess it all went south with the nvidia drivers I installed12:10
lotuspsychjeSrRaven: and it worked for you until?12:10
lotuspsychjeSrRaven: maybe try recovermode and failsafeX12:11
SrRavenaccording to http://askubuntu.com/questions/375841/ubuntu-13-10-black-screen-after-logging-in-after-installing-nvidia-drivers its the nvidia12:11
SrRavenfailsafeX wont boot12:11
SrRavenit just gets stuck12:11
lotuspsychjeSrRaven: alot of users strugling with 13.10 and black reboots12:11
dv-i get a black screen if i try to log in with another user already logged in12:11
lotuspsychjeSrRaven: i fixxed one machine with fixxing broken packages (from recoverymode once)12:12
dv-^ with lightdm-gtk on oss radeon drivers. anyone know what that's about12:12
MonkeyDustSrRaven  try 12.04.312:12
SrRaventhat would mean a complete reinstall wouldnt it12:12
Zeus007awk -F ;  '{printf("%s",$3)}'    xx.txt         How can I replace 3 in this command by a variable?12:13
MonkeyDustSrRaven  "a complete reinstall" takes about 15 minutes here12:13
SrRaven:/12:13
streulmahello, what's best to run on my Macbook Pro Retina then? 13.04 or 13.10? 12.04 is to old and would not work.12:13
SrRavenhave a link to the version?12:13
Zeus007I' freshman , can anybody help me?12:14
SrRavenit always gets stuck in "mountall: fsck /boot/efi [717] terminated with status 1^12:14
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MonkeyDustSrRaven  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop12:15
KejranHello, Ubuntu doesn't recognize my WiFi adapter. When I do lsusb there is Fujitsu Siemens Smart Card 802.11bg wireless module [sis 163U] but I can't start it. Can someone please help me?12:15
bekksSrRaven: then use a livecd to fsck that filesytem.12:15
averageKejran: no12:15
SrRavenwhat a good live cd for taht?12:16
bekksaverage: thats not helpful, since you dont know wether other may help.12:16
SrRavenI dont have a cdr blank,so I need to do it via usb anyway12:16
averagebekks: ok ok...12:16
averageKejran: hey12:16
streulmaare there more problems with 13.10 then 13.04 ?12:16
bekksSrRaven: so just boot off your usb stick.12:16
averageKejran: have you tried using upper-right wifi button in gnome ?12:16
averageKejran: are you sure you have the drivers of your wifi installed ? (usually they come as kernel modules and you have to check they're loaded with lsmod )12:17
MonkeyDuststreulma  now that's not a nice question12:17
Kejranaverage: I'm using Lubuntu on this old laptop. How can I check if I have drivers installed?12:18
llutzZeus007: you may ask in #awk12:18
bekksKejran: The only chance is using ndiswrapper to get that crap working. The best bet is to get another wifi usb dongle.12:19
averageKejran: check the specs of the laptop, see what the full name of the wifi card is, with the model and all that stuff12:19
averageKejran: see if it's supported by your kernel version (google it)12:19
bekksaverage: The full model is SIS 163U as he already stated.12:19
Kejranbekks: It's integrated in the laptop...12:19
averagebekks: no, that's what lsusb tells him12:19
bekksKejran: Then get another USB wifi dongle.12:19
averagebekks: not necessarily the actual name of his wifi card12:19
Kejranaverage: I have the model name -> WLAN miniCard D230112:19
bekksaverage: And thats what the chipset is, which is the only important information.12:19
averageKejran: you see ?it's miniCard D2301 , not SIS 163U12:20
averagebekks: ^^12:20
averageoh I see... my bad12:20
bekksaverage: Stop please if you have no clue about what you are talking.12:20
Kejranaverage: I told you the whole line from lsusb :)12:20
averagebekks: hey stop jumping to conclusions12:20
averageKejran: ok great, have you checked if your vendor has drivers for this card ? have you looked for linux drivers for this ?12:21
bekksKejran: You have a "miniCard D2301" which is using a SIS 163U chipset which is supported by ndiswrapper only. Best bet is to get another USB wifi dongle.12:21
streulmaI see it is not the moment now to use Ubuntu on the PC if there are problems with nvidia?12:21
bekksaverage: Did you google? I did, and it revealed that it is supported by ndiswrapper only.12:21
averageKejran: for example, in my case I have ath9k which I believe is something called atheros, and I have the kernel module loaded and it works just fine12:21
streulmaI see many problems with nvidia on the forums12:21
averagebekks: I wasn't as fast, sorry12:22
Kejranaverage: I was looking on the FujitsuSiemens website but they don't provide *nix drivers12:22
MonkeyDuststreulma  better simply ask your question12:22
streulma12.04 should not run on my Mac, it is even 13.04 or 13.10, 13.04 runs better12:22
averagebekks: but knowing that nidswrapper is a piece of sh*t, your suggestion for him to get another one is the best I think12:22
SrRavenalright, im trying to reinstall, but get into grub automatically12:22
bekksKejran: Ndiswrapper is the only chance. Telling you for the third time now. However.12:22
SrRavenhow do I tell grub to boot from USB ?12:22
averagebekks: I mean I totally subscribe to that12:22
streulmaso, my question is if 13.04 is is a good choice? MonkeyDust12:23
MonkeyDuststreulma  then why not use 13.04, if it runs better?12:23
averageKejran: get a new wifi thing. ndiswrapper things are miserable12:23
Kejranbekks: How can I install/configure that? I'm newbie to Lubuntu/Ubuntu/Unix :)12:23
streulmayes, but when it is not supported anymore? Then I have to upgrade to 14.04 I think MonkeyDust12:23
Kejranaverage: I'm configuring this laptop for my friend, he just needs it for internet and maybe some pdf reading so I don't want him carrying external dongle just to have wifi...12:24
averageKejran: well I'm sorry to hear that my friend. I am trying to help you save a lot of time ..12:25
averageKejran: http://www.linux-drivers.org/network.html12:25
Kejranaverage: I know, I thank you for that12:26
MonkeyDuststreulma  yes, 13.04 support stops in january12:27
MonkeyDuststreulma  http://regmedia.co.uk/2013/03/24/ubuntu_release_cycle.jpg12:27
BluesKajKejran, sudo lshw -C network , look for "product" in the wifi section12:27
averageKejran: http://linuxhcl.com/browse/search?category=2512:28
KejranBluesKaj: I get RTL-8139 (realtek) but that's wired connection... There is no Wireless at least as far as I can se12:29
averageKejran: I suggest spending your time with the lappy in a hardware store, trying some different wifi dongles/adaptors/whatever . It's much more productive IMHO12:29
averageKejran: I gave you two HCL(Hardware Compatibility List) for Linux12:29
averageKejran: see if any stores near you have any of those products perhaps12:29
ikoniawhy not use windows ?12:30
averageikonia: you're such a smart guy12:30
ikonia?12:30
llutzpeople don't like simple solutions...12:31
ikoniaif there are compatibility problems, using an os that supports seems worth considering to me12:32
vmuserGallium was the open source driver, correct?12:32
averageikonia: you're very intelligent12:32
ikoniaaverage: not sure why you keep randomly saying that12:32
averageikonia: then stop asking me why I'm saying that12:32
Kejranaverage: How can I see what's the exact model name of my wifi module?12:33
bekksKejran: lsusb12:33
ikoniaaverage: apologies, I don't understand why you keep stating I'm smart, when I'm just offering a possible solution that hadn't been considered12:33
averageKejran: look in your laptop specs on the vendor's website12:33
averageikonia: you're in #ubuntu, you genius12:33
averageikonia: why would someone in #ubuntu want winblows ?12:33
ikonia??12:34
ikoniaaverage: it's called windows - and they not be aware / have considered a simple solution, hence why I said "consider" using windows12:34
averageikonia: so what ?12:34
SrRavenanyone ? Using grub to boot from usb ?12:35
averageikonia: you're out of line and you're off-topic with your windows talk12:36
ikoniaaverage: err no, that's not correct at all.12:36
average!op12:36
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!12:36
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llutzhrhr, ymmd12:37
ikoniaaverage: there is no need for that,12:37
vmuseraverage, to get proper multi monitor setup :P12:37
sir-mesir-me: hey am trying to rip a video mix into a mp3 help12:38
averagesir-me: http://linuxpoison.blogspot.ro/2010/04/how-to-extract-audio-from-video-file.html12:39
averagesir-me: you will require ffmpeg. so you'll have to install it.  sudo aptitude update ; sudo aptitude install ffmpeg12:40
BluesKaj!aptitude12:40
ubottuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. You may encounter multiarch problems on non-updated 12.04 installs, see  http://pad.lv/831768 for more information.12:40
averageBluesKaj: ok, I guess apt-get is better then12:40
widadi want something to toggle between win7 and ubuntu studio without shuting down my computer? can anyone help me?12:41
BluesKajit's best to use apt-get , just to be safe , average12:41
Ben64widad: you can use virtualbox and have one running in a VM12:42
BluesKaj!VB12:42
MonkeyDustsir-me  winFF is nice ffmpeg frontend12:42
imghost!info VBox12:42
ubottuPackage VBox does not exist in saucy12:42
widadBen64, i do't like V.machine it makes my computer going slow12:42
dardevelinsuggestion on solving issue... when installing skype removes spotify and virtualbox which i need. sounds about multiarch but still pulls these libs12:43
dardevelins/libs/packages [out]12:43
Ben64widad: well theres no other way without restarting12:43
widadBen64, i think i saw a video on youtube that allows that but don't remember wich one12:44
widadBen64, thanks for the help12:44
bekksimghost: Thats why you should download it from www.virtualbox.org12:44
llutz!info virtualbox12:45
ubottuvirtualbox (source: virtualbox): x86 virtualization solution - base binaries. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 4.2.16-dfsg-3 (saucy), package size 13831 kB, installed size 50333 kB12:45
imghost!virtualbox | bekks12:45
ubottubekks: Virtualbox is a virtualizer for x86 and amd64 architectures. It's available in the package "virtualbox" in the !repositories, and you can download the Virtualbox Extension Pack for additional, non-Free functionality at http://virtualbox.org . Additional details can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox12:45
imghostbekks, testing only :)12:45
bekksimghost: Stop abusing ubottu.12:45
imghostbekks, you can install vbox from software centre12:47
MonkeyDustimghost  use /msg ubottu if you wnat to test factoids12:48
bekksimghost: I will never ever recommend that since the version shipped with ubuntu isnt official supported anymore. If you like to support it, do it - I wont.12:48
bekksimghost: If you want to get usable and sensible support for vbox - use the latest official version.12:48
Ben64same with wine12:48
bekksimghost: Just for your information: I am using vbox since version 1.3.4 - I do know what I am telling you about it.12:49
ikoniausing ubuntu studio in virtual box is a bad idea,12:49
imghostbekks, did i ask you how to install vbox?12:49
ikoniathe hardware interaction and need for RT kernel won't work well in a vm12:49
bekksimghost: Read the instructions on the downloads page at www.virtualbox.org12:49
bekksvirtualization and RT kernel are pretty contrary use cases.12:50
ikoniaright, so the guy who wants to dual boot may want to be aware of that and not use ubuntu studio i the vm container12:50
ikonia"in"12:51
BluesKajI couldn't connect with wifi on VB , no matter what , so i dual booted instead12:53
averageBluesKaj: you need guest additions in VBox12:54
averageBluesKaj: or not12:54
averageBluesKaj: did you set your network or something to get the connection shared with your VBox ?12:54
averageBluesKaj: or .. what exactly do you mean by "couldn't connect with wifi on VB" ?12:55
BluesKajaverage, yes , had them installed , average12:55
averageBluesKaj: do you have a wifi dongle ?12:55
averageBluesKaj: like those ones that have a limit of 2GB/month or something like that ?12:55
averageBluesKaj: and they look like usb sticks12:55
BluesKajnope , laptop here , lenovo G500, broadcom chip12:56
ikoniathat's not a wifi dongle - that's a mobile broadband dongle12:56
averagebroadband dongle whatever..12:57
averageforgot the name12:57
ikoniathey use different technologies, so it's worth being clear when asking the questions12:57
BluesKajno dongles of any kind here, average12:58
llutzBluesKaj: vbox clients normally use the network-connection of the host via a virtual network-device. why did you try to access the "real hardware wifi"?12:59
KejranI try to use sudo ndisgtk and GUI show up, I add xx.inf and in console I get Fatal: Module ndiswrapper not found.12:59
bekksKejran: you have to install ndiswrapper, too.12:59
BluesKajllutz, real hardware wifi ?13:00
Kejranbekks: What's the name of the repository?13:00
steverandyhow do you run command on boot as non-root user?13:00
llutzBluesKaj: " <BluesKaj> I couldn't connect with wifi on VB" <-13:00
bekksKejran: I dont know. I will not support ndiswrapper since I consider it to be one of the biggest loads of crap under the sun. Sorry, no help from me for ndiswrapper.13:01
BluesKajbecause the W7 guest wouldn't connect , llutz13:01
Kejranbekks: Ok, thanks anyway13:01
averageKejran: use a vbox, install windows on it, make sure your wifi or whatever works inside your windows vbox, then you'll get the connection shared to your physical machine anyway, so you'll be able to use the network that way13:02
averageKejran: it's convoluted and effed-up13:02
averageKejran: if you want to avoid that, look through that thing I gave you, the Hardware Compatibility List for Linux devices , find a few, look them up on amazon and buy thos mofos and plug them in13:03
ikoniaKejran: is there a reason you don't just use a supported OS ?13:03
averageand they'll work and you'll be happy13:03
averageikonia: dude, this is #ubuntu , it's not #choose-the-os-your-wifi-dongle-is-compatible-with13:04
Artte14Hey guys. If I install Ubuntu 13.10 (3.11 kernel). Is 3.11.2 or higher avaliable by Automatic Updates? (Because my mouse is supported from 3.11.2)13:04
ikoniaaverage: I'm aware of the channel13:04
averageikonia: so ?!?!? what part don't you understand ?13:04
Kejranaverage: I'm configuring this laptop for a friend who isn't tech savvy so I wan't to make it as painless as possible for him. Possibly just boot up and open firefox... anything else will be painful for him ;)13:04
Kejranikonia: Because he had win xp and the computer was really slow13:04
bekksKejran: If you want to make it non-tech-savvy, then finally get another USB dongle.13:05
ikoniaKejran: if he's not tech savy surly using windows which fully supports his hardware seeems worth considering13:05
ikoniaKejran: if it's slow with XP - it's going to also struggle with later linux distributions too13:05
averageI totally subscribe to what bekks said13:05
bekksKejran: Or consider using Windows, since it supports his hardware-.13:05
llutz</subscription>13:06
average</subscription>13:06
averagedamnit, too late13:06
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Artte14Hey guys. If I install Ubuntu 13.10 (3.11 kernel). Is 3.11.2 or higher avaliable by Automatic Updates? (Because my mouse is supported from 3.11.2)13:06
averageArtte14: your mouse is too fancy, there's like tons of mice compatible with older kernels. Why you had to get the newest fanciest stuff ?13:07
raj1991rajhello13:07
raj1991rajwhat would you do, if you forget the name of an application in ubuntu or any other versin of linux,13:07
bekksaverage: Because he did.13:07
bekksaverage: Can you answer his question?13:07
ikoniaArtte14: point releases don't happen - you'll keep the same kernel base version13:07
averagebekks: yes I can13:07
averageArtte14: http://linuxhcl.com/browse/search?category=1713:08
ikoniaArtte14: you may want to look at some of the backports13:08
ikoniaaverage: that is not an answer13:08
averageikonia: your mother is the answer13:08
Artte14average: I bought about a year ago gaming mouse. Today I find that "holtec" drivers was included in kernel 3.11.2. I tried LiveUSB ubuntu 14.04 beta and it works13:08
ikoniaArtte14: that will be a bit frustrating for you13:09
ikoniaArtte14: the mainline kernel (but aware of support restrictions) or back ports maybe your best hope13:09
bekksArtte14: you may use 13.10 with a mainline kernel until April, or use 14.04 with all its caveats.13:09
RashadI am asking here because I don't know where it is better to ask.13:09
Artte14Ok, thanks for help :) ikonia, bekks and average13:11
lineaI have one rsyslog server and 3 client server. i can send client log to remote server. But all the client logs are located in a single folder. So how can i  create 3 client directory in remote server and how to send their own logs to their own file. Am using ubuntu 12.04 server.13:14
daharonHey guys, I'm trying to create an Upstart config for a service, but I don't understand where I am supposed to put the "stop" command.  It seems to only support starting a service.13:16
lineaI have one rsyslog server and 3 client server. i can send client log to remote server. But all the client logs are located in a single folder. So how can i  create 3 client directory in remote server and how to send their own logs to their own file. Am using ubuntu 12.04 server.13:18
llutzlinea: read http://www.rsyslog.com/storing-messages-from-a-remote-system-into-a-specific-file/  to get a basic idea how to do13:19
andybrineAfternoon everyone13:22
andybrineQuick question, I have searched on the internet and im unable to find a good answer and so thought I would ask here. Doe anyone know how to play auidible.com audio books on ubuntu?13:23
BluesKajandybrine, what audio format?13:27
andybrineits downloaded as ".aa"13:28
dufaandybrine: I did some research on the same topic myself earlier, but was never able to play them on ubuntu13:29
andybrinethats a shame, thanks dufa13:30
andybrinewould any wine applications work do you know?13:30
dufaandybrine: I guess that would be possible. Never really used wine myself, though.13:31
andybrinecool, thanks13:32
andybrineI will give it a go13:32
belgianguythere's a wiki about a lot of programs and how they run under Wine13:32
belgianguyhttp://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=category&iId=0&sAction=view&sTitle=Browse+Applications13:33
MonkeyDustthere's also a !appdb webpage13:33
BluesKajandybrine, think they're DRM'd . maybe libdvdcss2 from the videolan site may work13:35
andybrineexcellent, thanks BluesKaj, I will download that13:36
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damelHey all...I have tried every possible way that I know of to change the brightness on my laptop, but nothing works. All the tutorials, everything seems to work (the files get updated with the right information) but the screen stays SUPER bright. Any ideas ?13:44
hunkhi every body how can I install xamp13:49
MonkeyDusthunk  use lamp13:50
hunkhow can I use it by terminal or what13:50
gsdhgcvertgrjhWARNING       WARNING      WARNING,                       WARNING13:51
gsdhgcvertgrjhWARNING             WARNING              WARNING,     WARNING         WARNING13:51
gsdhgcvertgrjh YOU MAY BE WATCHED13:51
gsdhgcvertgrjhYOU MAY BE WATCHED13:51
gsdhgcvertgrjh                YOU MAY BE WATCHED13:51
FloodBot1gsdhgcvertgrjh: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.13:51
MonkeyDusthunk  use tasksel (task select)13:51
hunkthanks dude13:52
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yuviom13:56
yuvibunny13:56
MonkeyDustyuvi  it works, we see you13:58
hackerhi13:58
hackeryuvi alo13:59
yuvihi13:59
yuvifucker bol13:59
cfhowlett!language|yuvi,14:00
ubottuyuvi,: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.14:00
yuvibunny14:01
mariannehello...currently running 12.04 ... I am wondering if there is a way to network to my older iMAC?14:02
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MonkeyDustmarianne  you mean share a connection?14:05
marianneMonkeyDust: I want to be able to transfer files.... want to decommission my iMac...14:06
marianneMonkeyDust: They are set up for internet with my gateway, but they can't 'see' each other14:08
MonkeyDustmarianne  are they both in the same network?14:09
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Lambda2hello14:09
Lambda2How can I download a file with "wget" when the link is like website/download14:10
marianneMonkeyDust: No, I don't think so, up until now they have their own connections to the internet...is there a doc out there that can step me through it? I haven't found anything revelant yet...14:10
Lambda2so not website.tld/file.zip, more like website.tld/downloadfile14:10
helheimok ... so how do i make a command (like cgminer) directory independent?14:11
helheimas in typing ./cgminer and start mining anywhere14:11
MonkeyDustmarianne  they do not use the same gateway? if they do, they are in the same network14:11
Lambda2Is that even possible with wget?14:11
helheimin any directory, that is14:11
marianneMonkeyDust: Ok, Same gateway,14:12
bekkshelheim: you cant. ./ designates the current directory. If "cgminer" isnt found in the current directory, "./cgminer" will not work.14:13
llutzhelheim: add the directory cgminer is in to your $PATH14:13
MonkeyDustmarianne  and what are the local ip address of both machines?14:13
bekksllutz: That will not make "./cgminer" work.14:13
llutzbekks: true,14:13
llutzhelheim: ommit the ./ then14:13
helheimahhh....14:13
helheimok i get it14:13
marianneMonkeyDust: ok, it is the same... they both start with 192.168.0.x14:14
MonkeyDustmarianne  good... and can they ping each other?14:14
marianneMonkeyDust: yes... damn BRB, work calls14:15
crusoexiahello, shall i put my shell scripts in /usr/local/bin? or create a bin/ directory under my home and put my scripts here?14:15
helheimthanks for the help14:15
helheimuhmmm... 1 moar thing: /cgminer: --scrypt: unrecognized option14:15
helheimthis was new :(14:16
helheimits supposed to run scrypt14:16
helheimdont know if this is the place to ask14:16
saadinhi, I can't add any ppa, not from command line nor from Software&Updates. from commandline it just says Cannod add PPA and from Sofware&Updates when I add a ppa nothings happens.14:19
saadinI have 13.10 and based on what I've learned from searching about my problem I think I should mention I'm using dual boot14:19
blurkisWhat is the command you are running to add a ppa from the terminal?14:20
blurkissaadin, ^^14:20
saadinblurkis: for example for adding wine repo:14:21
saadinsudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa14:21
helheimahhh14:21
helheimnever mind14:21
blurkissaadin, that you are dualbooting should not have anything to do with a ppa.14:21
Sirvhi14:22
uri_hi14:22
uri_good morning14:23
saadinblurkis: yeah it seems so,but  i searched for my problem and the only answer was dualbooting causes the problem14:23
Sirvits that really flood bots?14:23
uri_i have a problem with shockwave flash player on chromium, in ubuntu, allways i enter places with flash like youtube, allway crash14:23
bekksSirv: yes.14:24
blurkissaadin, well, adding the repository is just about putting that line in a specific file.  Has nothing to do with dualbooting.14:24
uri_also in mozzilla14:24
uri_in chrome it run well14:24
uri_flash player14:24
blurkissaadin, seems strange its not working for you.14:24
blurkisWhats the errormessages? do you get to the part where it states information about the ppa and asks you to press enter? if not,  do you have network on the computer?14:25
uri_i am runnin ubuntu 10.0414:25
bekksuri_: As a desktop?14:25
cfhowletturi_, on desktop or server?  desktop has reached end of life14:25
uri_desktop14:26
bekksSirv: I dont want your queries, stop them.14:26
cfhowletturi_, then you're running an unsupported version.  time to upgrade.  I suggest 12.04 as it is Long Term Support14:26
uri_i have 1 gb free hd space it will be enoguh to update ?14:27
saadinblurkis: no it doesn't get to that part and yes i have network beacause apt-get install works. it just prints this (even with -m option):14:27
saadinCannot add PPA: 'ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa'.14:27
saadinPlease check that the PPA name or format is correct.14:27
cfhowletturi_, lubuntu will fit in that space.14:27
saturnmond6hallo14:27
cfhowletturi_, I'm guessing you have an older machine or one with low specifications?14:28
andybrineok, im not a fan of itunes at all. I just want to use it to play audiobooks on ubuntu. Does anyone know how to install iTunes on ubuntu?14:28
cfhowlett!itunes|andybrine, many have asked.  most have failed14:28
ubottuandybrine, many have asked.  most have failed: itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee14:28
cfhowlettandybrine, it may be possible to run a very, very old version of itunes in wine ...14:29
uri_yes its old, a notebook14:29
cfhowlettandybrine, with very limited capabilities.  frankly, not with the effort IMHO14:29
andybrinethanks, much appreciated14:29
andybrinedo you happen to know any applications that are able to run audible audiobooks?14:30
cfhowlettandybrine, audible mp3's?14:31
andybrineno, they are .aa files14:31
MonkeyDustandybrine  the factoid suggests !players14:31
cfhowlett!players14:32
ubottuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS2 (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs14:32
uri_i am updating to version 12.0414:32
uri_i think it will be ok14:32
uri_12.04.03 ?14:32
yeatsandybrine: old question thread, but I'd imagine little has changed: http://askubuntu.com/questions/16918/how-to-listen-to-audible-files14:32
cfhowlettandybrine, never played one, but install ubuntu-restricted-extras and see  what mplayer can do ...14:32
cfhowletturi_, lubuntu or xubunut?  both are much lighter than ubuntu14:32
yeatsandybrine: mostly boils down to "contact Audible and let them know you'd like to see a Linux client" :-/14:33
MonkeyDustandybrine  paste a link to a .aa file, so we can try14:33
uri_ive never heard of lubuntu14:33
cfhowlett!lubuntu14:33
ubottulubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.14:33
cfhowlettandybrine, what monkeydust said.14:33
uri_i dont like very much unity14:33
cfhowletturi_, no unity in lubuntu14:34
andybrinethanks guys14:34
andybrinehere is a link to the file: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B687AFZZOf-seGJOU0EzS1E1cDA/edit?usp=sharing14:34
cfhowlettandybrine, no google drive for me: China.14:34
andybrinelol, damn it. Let me put it on ubuntu one14:35
blurkissaadin, are you using latest version of ubuntu? perhaps it not working for your version?14:35
saadinblurkis: i'm using 13.1014:36
andybrineit may take some time but it will be ready soon14:37
cfhowlettandybrine, no worries.  make it a small file ...14:38
andybrineits 50mb but they are all audio books. Thats the smallest I have14:38
cfhowlettandybrine, that'll work ...14:38
andybrinecheers14:38
uri_i have to free 2 gb more of space to update system online14:40
uri_it says it require 3gb14:40
killerhey , i use gnome with ubuntu 12.04 and i changed the cross,minimize bar to right hand side but whenever i switch user , it is again is on left side14:40
cfhowlettandybrine, ffmpeg says it'll play .aac files which are clearly NOT your .aa14:40
MonkeyDustandybrine  same here, but even windows xp (in virtual box) can't read the .aa file14:41
cfhowletturi_, better to download 12.04 via torrent and clean install14:41
andybrinethats shocking14:42
andybrineaudible dont seem to like to support linux14:42
cfhowlettandybrine, audible seems to be using a closed and proprietary codec14:42
cfhowlett^^^ what you said14:42
andybrineyeah14:43
andybrinethe funny thing is that you can listen to your audio files on android14:43
andybrinewell audible audiobooks14:43
cfhowlettandybrine, gotta have the app, though, right?14:44
andybrineyeah, there is an app for it14:44
andybrinehere is the audio file:http://ubuntuone.com/76DNY8aUCHxYeVb4WXhPlI14:44
llutz_andybrine: audible aa is drm-crippled mp3 inside a proprietary container. hard to play without a audible-licensed player14:45
BluesKajandybrine, did you try vlc , it plays most audio files with it's embedded decoders14:45
cfhowlettandybrine, I suspect the codec is in the app.  We'll see. downloading your .aa file now14:45
andybrineyeah, i tried vlc and it wouldnt play it :(14:46
cfhowlettandybrine, I'd say that's a sign ...14:46
andybrineyeah, i know what you mean14:47
andybrineits just soo frustrating14:47
andybrineI have audiobooks that I have paid for and im not able to listen to them14:47
cfhowlettandybrine, let audible know of your discontent ...14:47
llutz_cfhowlett: they know about it and they ignore it14:48
BluesKajis aa a proprietary codec,? seems unfamiliar to me14:48
llutz_BluesKaj: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audible.com14:48
andybrineyeah, audible are really not good14:48
llutz_stay away from any DRM thingy (jm2c)14:49
BluesKajso libdvdcss2 didn't touch it , I suppose14:50
llutz_BluesKaj: css is dvd-video14:50
llutz_for*14:50
andybrinemaybe I could run android apps on ubuntu14:50
cfhowlettandybrine, no choice but to avoid DRM.  I'm reading the wiki on the DRM and seems that you're unlikely to find a linux work around as it's locked down pretty tightly14:50
BluesKajyeah , but it strips drm, from the file14:50
andybrinedont know how to do that though14:50
andybrinelol14:50
andybrineok, thanks for helping me out14:51
andybrinemuch appreciated14:51
cfhowletthttp://linuxtidbits.wordpress.com/2011/09/21/audible-com-and-linux-arghh/14:51
zykotick9BluesKaj: ahhh libdvdcss2 doesn't remove DRM, it just plays CSS encoded DVDs14:52
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andybrinethat link looks like a lot of work14:53
andybrinelol14:53
nodw14:55
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crusoexiahello14:56
unicornjedi#ubuntukylin14:57
cfhowlettandybrine, you probably can run and android app via ubuntu - virtual box or android sdk IIRC...whether or not that will get your audible up is nother question14:57
cfhowlettunicornjedi, what's is your ubuntukylin question?14:57
andybrineyeah, no probs14:57
andybrineI will have to give it a miss and ask for a refund14:58
unicornjedicfhowlett, oh, I was trying to '/join #ubuntukylin' to see if there were chinese people talking in there14:58
cfhowlettandybrine, best of luck.14:58
unicornjedicfhowlett, it would have been a cultural experience14:58
andybrinecheers, thanks for your help14:58
cfhowlettunicornjedi, sadly, I've yet to see that channel actually being used.  they're all over on youku/qq/or some other "u" sounding network.14:59
unicornjedicfhowlett, interesssting14:59
marianneMonkeyDust: you there?14:59
cfhowlettunicornjedi, 13.10 lists several support options, but as I don't read/write or speak Mandarin, ...15:00
MonkeyDustmarianne  no :p15:01
moushiraHello, anyone around using Draftsight?15:01
fedgalaxyHello, how can I know who is scanning my port by listenning to my eth0?15:01
marianneMonkeyDust: alas end user and their random clicking... anyway, both the iMAC and the ubuntu can see each other, I actually use software ti share the keyboard and mouse15:02
MonkeyDustmarianne  synergy?15:02
marianneMonkeyDust: bingo!15:02
marianneMonkeyDust: really just want to know how to transfer files...i guess15:03
zx42oHello, I am having problems installing Ubuntu Desktop 12.04 LTS to a new computer, I am continuously receiving a pop-up message "Wired network - Disconnected you are now offline"15:03
MonkeyDustmarianne  nfs and ssh come to mind15:03
cfhowlettzx42o, you can install without network access15:04
Sonderbladezx42o: do you know what brand your wifi card is?15:04
marianneMonkeyDust: i tried ssh and, yeah, probably my error caused it to not work15:04
zx42oIt has finished the install process and still unable to connect to the internet via eth015:04
zx42oIts an onboard lan realtek gbe15:04
unicornjedizx42o, try 'sudo restart network-manager'15:05
cfhowlettzx42o, did you reboot?15:05
MonkeyDustmarianne  try nfs https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo15:05
zx42ook.. yes i have rebooted, i have installed and reinstalled several times over the past 24 hours15:05
marianneMonkeyDust: awesome... thank you!15:05
zx42oit hangs on connecting15:06
cfhowlettzx42o, stop reinstalling.  work on confiiguring the networking15:06
zx42ook15:06
cfhowlettzx42o, laptop?  try a different network?15:06
marianneMonkeyDust: I'll RTFM and then try it... I'll be back tomorrow after I try it... might take a while since I'm on call today  :-(15:06
zx42ono its a desktop computer15:06
unicornjedizx42o, what type of computer is it?15:07
MonkeyDustmarianne  or look for a less technical NFS tutorial15:07
zx42oi have located the drivers online and have installed them but still getting same message15:07
zx42oGA-970A-UD3P motherboard15:07
marianneMonkeyDust: technical is ok, just probably need to read through it all first15:07
atma111I have a problem, I have a proxy server "ubuntu server squid3" the pc's local network have internet but the online games do not work (dota2 , wow, aion, starcraft2)15:07
cfhowlett!server15:08
ubottuUbuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server15:08
zx42oresults of lshw -c network :15:08
zx42odesc: Ethernet interface15:08
zx42oproduct: RTL81111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller15:08
lineakoooooiii15:08
zx42ovendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.15:08
zx42ophysical id: 015:08
zx42obus info: pci@0000:05:00.015:09
lineahahahahahah15:09
zx42ological name: eth015:09
zx42oversion: 0615:09
unicornjedizx42o, also, during the install process press alt+ctrl+f1 or f2 or f3 or f4 or f5 or f6 when it hangs. You should have a terminal thats showing the working processes15:09
zx42oserial 74:d4:35:02:94:2115:09
lineapoda patti15:09
zx42osize: 10M bit/s15:09
atma111pls help!! I have a problem, I have a proxy server "ubuntu server squid3" the pc's local network have internet but the online games do not work (dota2 , wow, aion, starcraft2)15:09
zx42ook15:10
Sonderbladezx42o: try sudo dhclient or sudo dhclient315:10
akyra_77ciao15:10
akyra_77list15:10
fedgalaxyGreetings, how to check who's scanning my ports in Ubuntu?15:10
unicornjediatma11, for starcraft2 have you run 'sudo sysctl kernel.yama.ptrace_scope=0' before playing?15:10
zx42ook, both sudo dhclient & sudo dhclient3 in terminal do not provide any response15:11
llutzzx42o: what does "lspci  -s 05:00 -k" say?15:12
zx42owhen "sudo restart network-manager" response is "network-manager start/running, process 2189"15:12
atma111not the local pc's has windows715:12
MonkeyDustfedgalaxy  try wireshark... sharkwire... i forget the exact name15:12
Sonderbladezx42o: they only output to /var/log/syslog, if the command doesn't say anything it means your network is now working15:12
zx42o05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL81111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 06)  Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology GA-EP45-DS5 Motherboard  Kernel driver in use: r8169  Kernel modules: r816915:13
_savior_hi guys15:13
_savior_does anybody know what package is responsible for automount?15:13
llutzzx42o: does "ifconfig -a" list any ethX ifaces?15:14
zx42ook i attempted to open firefox still not connected and also still getting "wired connection you are now disconnected" pop up15:14
_savior_I want to update my bug report so that the maintainers receive15:14
fedgalaxyMonkeyDust, wireshark doesnt work for wire connection, Only wireless, wifi15:14
zx42oyes eth015:14
zx42oLink encap:ehternet15:15
zx42oHWaddr 74:d4:35:02:94:2115:15
llutzfedgalaxy: nonsense15:15
zx42oinet6 addr: fe80:76d4:35ff:f ...15:15
zx42othere is no inet address15:15
llutzzx42o: sudo ifconfig eth0 up && sudo dhclient eth015:15
MonkeyDust_savior_  in dconf-editor: org.gnome.desktop.media-handling15:15
fedgalaxyllutz, give me a tutorial, at least something I can start with15:16
llutzzx42o: assuming you have a dhcp-server running in network15:16
fedgalaxyto check who's scannign my ports15:16
zx42oyes15:16
llutzfedgalaxy: http://www.wireshark.org/docs/wsug_html_chunked/15:16
crocketDoes ubuntu have a twitter or facebook client?15:16
zx42ook it is "doing something" it is blinking cursor with no response15:16
_savior_MonkeyDust: thanks, but I need the name of the package that does that for the bug report15:17
llutzzx42o: you checked your network-cable? it's ok, LED on?15:17
_savior_MonkeyDust: I have checked dconf before, and it supposed to be on15:18
zx42oyes its a 10mbit connection, the yellow led blinks15:18
zx42oi have switched cables as well15:18
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llutzzx42o: press ctrl-c to exit dhclient. what is your routers IP, your localnet ip-range? 192.168.x.x15:19
zx42oi am behind a switch, however the problem exists without the switch as well15:19
atma111I have a problem, I have a proxy server "ubuntu server squid3" the pc's local network(windows7) have internet but the online games do not work (dota2 , wow, aion, starcraft2). What is the problem?15:20
zx42o192.168.0.100's15:20
zx42o192.168.0.109 is this computers local ip15:20
Sonderbladezx42o: what does ip addr show eth0 | head -n 1 output?15:20
zx42o2: eth0 <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP qlen 100015:21
atma111!ping15:22
ubottupong!15:22
llutzzx42o: sudo ip addr add 192.168.0.109/24 dev eth015:22
llutzzx42o: sudo ip route add 192.168.0.0/24 dev eth015:23
llutzzx42o: sudo ip route add default via 192.168.0.10015:23
llutzzx42o: assuming 0.100 is your gateway/router15:23
zx42osudo iproute add 192.168.0.0/24 dev eth0 -  response is RTNETLINK answers: File exists15:24
zx42ocontinue?15:24
llutzzx42o: 1st: sudo ip set dev eth0 down &&  sudo ip set dev eth0 up15:25
llutzzx42o: 1st: sudo ip link set dev eth0 down &&  sudo ip link set dev eth0 up              sry15:25
felera_85Hello. Can somebody read my message?15:26
zx42ook15:26
zx42osudo ip route add default via 192.168.0.100 response is RTNETLINK answers: Network is unreachable15:27
felera_85Hello. Can somebody read my message?15:27
zykotick9felera_85: yes15:28
llutzfelera_85: yes15:28
hackerhi somebody tell mi about voice chatting with xchat15:28
felera_85ok. thank you.15:29
llutzzx42o: shouldn't happen, it sounds like driver-issues. you might try to update your net-driver with the one from realtek, might be tricky without internet ...15:31
zx42ook15:33
Sonderbladezx42o: run sudo dhclient -d eth0 and paste what it outputs somewhere, preferably after a clean reboot15:33
ehndeis it ok to have a bash one liner as a cron job? or should i execute it as a script instead?15:33
zx42ook rebooting15:33
llutzehnde: it's ok15:34
kkkkkkkhi alll, I am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS and i want to connect to internet using data cable , from my samsung mobile, when i connect data cable, mobile broadband connection shows up in the modem manager, but doesn't connect, it registers network and then disconnected, after then modem detected in network manager get out of list, i need to replug data cable, this is very annoying and data cable and mobile is working nicely in windowss15:34
felera_85We will open a software company with my partner. i am thinking to use open source softwares at our company. But i am not sure if they are legal or not. For example it is possible to use xwiki and libreoffice which are LGPL?15:34
kkkkkkki am from the same mobile Online now, but from windows, this is the only source of internet to me15:34
ehndegreat, thanks llutz15:34
hackerhi15:35
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kkkkkkki also tried to connect using bluetooth, but when i created DUN and click to connection created to  connect in network manager, system logout and kernel panic occurs,15:35
kkkkkkkUbuntu is not doing its basic tasks. It is getting worst day by day15:36
zx42oi cannot paste the response however I will type it15:37
kkkkkkkubuntu is concerend only with polished looks, not on performance and stability15:38
kkkkkkkthis is my view15:38
zx42oInternet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.1-ESV-R415:38
zx42oCopyright 2004-2011 Internet Systems Consortium.15:38
zx42oAll rights reserved.15:38
zx42oFor info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/15:38
zx42oListening on LPF/eth0/74:d4:35:02:94:2115:39
zx42oSending on LPF/eth0/74:d4:35:02:94:2115:39
zx42oSending on Socket/fallback15:39
zx42oDHCPDISCOVER on eth0 th 255.255.255. port 67 interval 315:39
zx42o" ... interval 715:40
zx42o" ... internval 1415:40
zx42o" ... interval 915:40
zx42o" ... interval 2015:40
zx42o" ... interval 1415:40
zx42ointerval 1515:40
zx42ointerval 1515:40
zx42ointerval 1815:40
FloodBot1zx42o: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:40
zx42ointerval 21, 21, 18, 13, 2015:41
zx42o1115:41
Sonderbladezx42o: seem to me that your network card is fine but there is no dhcp server on your lan15:41
knightshadeHello15:42
llutzSonderblade: in that case the manual ip-setting before should have worked and not given the  " RTNETLINK answers: Network is unreachable"15:42
zx42ook i am behind a switch, i have tried without switch however the same results, i can try without switch again however i must move into the other room15:43
zx42olet me directly into router15:43
zx42obrb15:43
Sonderbladellutz: yes if the commands where typed in exactly as you wrote them15:44
zx42oone issue previously mentioned last night in this chat, the identity of ethernet lan is realtek r8168, lshw -c network reported using driver=r8169, i downloaded appropriate r8168 drivers and manually installed them (to the best of my knowledge at least) however the problem persisted, i have since done a fresh install15:46
linux_drI'm trying to use Saucy Salamander within vagrant (with virtual box as the vm provider)... Vagrant appears to be getting ahold of something that it thinks is ssh before OpenSSH is actually functioning properly... when is SSH supposed to be started in Saucy, and by who? is it possible it answers connections before the system is in a stable state? (The first error I get is that sh can't find lsb_release)15:47
atma111need help, I have a proxy server "ubuntu server squid3" the pc's local network(windows7) have internet but the online games do not work (dota2 , wow, aion, starcraft2). What is the problem?15:50
linux_drUbuntu has apparently switched from inits to something called upstart... where is this configured? could it be starting ssh before / is mounted or something odd like that?15:50
leleletest15:50
llutzlinux_dr: nope, check scripts in /etc/init15:51
Sonderbladezx42o: are there other devices on the same lan? can you verify that they successfully receive their ip:s from dhcp?15:51
knightshade!upstart | linux_dr15:52
ubottulinux_dr: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/15:52
linux_drI don't even see ssh mentioned in /etc/rc2.d... :-(15:52
linux_drknightshade: Been picking through it, thanks...15:52
linux_drjust haven't found anything there very helpful15:53
llutzlinux_dr: scripts in /etc/init , /etc/rcX.d is old SysV-init15:53
Fohlenhi guys, could upgrading ubuntu-desktop (to be more specific xubuntu) from 12.10 to 13.04 with update-manager (graphically) cause any lack on data? Are there known issues?15:53
linux_drcould puppet be hijacking port 22? :-?15:53
llutzlinux_dr: sudo lsof -i :22         check it15:53
linux_drllutz: sshd is running there *NOW*... I'm seeing an odd behavior at early boot...15:55
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linux_drsuspect BEFORE sshd is running... or sshd running before it should be...15:55
linux_drI don't see anything launching it. :(15:55
linux_drcould VirtualBox be enabling ssh as the console OUTSIDE of sshd?15:56
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llutznever heard of that15:56
linux_drnor have I...15:57
linux_drI'm just not seeing anything in /etc that should be starting openSSH so I don't know where it's being started.15:57
llutzlinux_dr: check /etc/init/ssh* or /etc/init.d/ssh*15:58
linux_drI just selected "OpenSSH Server" on Saucy install..15:58
SonderbladeFohlen: i'd say the probability is about 50% that something will break if you do that upgrade16:00
JoshDreamlandhi; I just ran the distribution upgrade to 13.10, thinking enough time has passed that nothing bad would happen, and it's apparently frozen, leaving only a blank window that says "Distribution Upgrade (as superuser)" in the title16:00
FohlenSonderblade, I meant like causing loss on personal data16:00
linux_drHold the phone...  I noticed start/stop on lines in /etc/init/ssh.conf... why should sshd know about run levels?16:00
llutz!runlevel | linux_dr16:01
ubottulinux_dr: In Ubuntu all runlevels except 0,1 and 6 are by default equal. Also keep in mind that Ubuntu now uses !Upstart instead of System V init so there is normally no /etc/inittab.16:01
llutz!upstart | linux_dr16:01
ubottulinux_dr: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/16:01
linux_drso the upstart specific config files are in /etc/init/?16:01
llutzlinux_dr: yes16:01
SonderbladeFohlen: i've never experienced that... but it's always good to keep backups16:02
Fohlenright16:02
SonikkuAmericaJoshDreamland: So the Distribution Upgrade window is both blank and sitting there?16:02
llutzlinux_dr: deeper info http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/16:02
JoshDreamlandyes, SonikkuAmerica16:02
JoshDreamlandjust a big, gray window16:02
SonikkuAmericaJoshDreamland: I would [ killall ] (force-quit) the process and try again.16:03
linux_drI see... and if I want to delay openssh until after the system stabilizes? that should be in the cookbook?16:03
Fohlenwhat would be the worst case that can happen?16:03
Fohlenassuming I have not many stuff16:03
firmware0ok guys, this may be a stupid question16:04
firmware0but when it first starts up and the words fly across the screen.. is there a log some where where i can more carefully read what is happening?16:05
bekks!ask | firmware016:05
ubottufirmware0: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:05
JoshDreamlandwhen I run the update manager, it says "Not all updates can be installed." Should I click continue, or partial upgrade?16:05
bekksfirmware0: Open a terminal and type "dmesg" and you will se quite a lot.16:05
llutzlinux_dr: check the "start on" if there is such an entry in the conf16:06
SonikkuAmericaJoshDreamland: Hit "Cancel" then run [ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -f ] in a terminal.16:07
SonikkuAmericaJoshDreamland: once you've finished that, run [ sudo do-release-upgrade ].16:08
JoshDreamlandshould I delete the lock file?16:08
SonikkuAmericaYes. Smash it.16:09
llutzlinux_dr: if you want to make sure it starts after all important boot-processes are done, you may test a line like "start on filesystem and net-device-up IFACE=ethX"16:09
JoshDreamlandwants me to run sudo dpkg --configure -a; doing so16:09
maitakeso i accidentally wrote to my fonts.conf and text is now turning to bunches of rectangles.. is it possible to restore my fonts.conf? i've tried creating one  by pasting from a text editor but it still spits out rectangles16:10
SonikkuAmericaOK16:10
[[thufir]]my disc is like 99% full.  I want to see how big some .dar slices are when you add them all up together. can I use du or df to do that?16:10
pulsar78is there a way to a2dp without pulseaudio ?16:11
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JoshDreamlandSonikkuAmerica: when running upgrade -f, it bailed: "Processing was halted because there were too many errors."16:14
SonikkuAmericapulsar78: What does a2dp do? Refresh me.16:14
llutz[[thufir]]:  ls -lrt *.dar | awk '{ total += $5 }; END { print total }'   ?16:15
knightshade[[thufir]]: du -ch *.dar16:15
SonikkuAmericaJoshDreamland: Can you run the same command and pastebin it?16:15
JoshDreamlandrerun it, or paste the current log?16:15
pulsar78Advanced Audio Distribution Profile16:15
JoshDreamlandI set my terminal log size to unlimited16:15
SonikkuAmericaJoshDreamland: Paste it.16:16
SonikkuAmerica!pastebin16:16
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.16:16
alexxxa3guys, on grandpa's laptop, it's xubuntu 12.04, whenever there are about 100 upgrades to be done, the sound disappears.16:17
alexxxa3then I have to do update16:17
alexxxa3and that was enough last time16:17
SonikkuAmericapulsar78: couldn't tell you16:17
alexxxa3this time, even updating won't solve problem16:17
alexxxa3I had to start pavucontrol...16:17
JoshDreamlandSonikkuAmerica: http://pastebin.com/nJ5Nni4R16:18
alexxxa3after existing pavucontrol, sound is muted, and I have to open pavucontrol again and unmute it all16:18
JoshDreamlandthe dist-upgrade starts on 134716:18
alexxxa3what's the problem? bug or something else?16:18
kostkonpulsar78, with a little bit of fiddling with the alsa conf files probably yes16:18
JoshDreamlandI must have missed the "too many errors" thing before16:19
alexxxa3anybody to help me?16:19
MadsRCwhat do you need help with alexxa3 ?16:21
SonikkuAmericaJoshDreamland: That's pretty messy... if you want to upgrade your machine, I'd suggest a Live image... Unless someone else has a better idea.16:21
alexxxa3I want to know why does exiting the pavucontrol mute sound?16:21
MadsRCHmm, which flavour of Ubuntu?16:22
JoshDreamlandjosh@dreamland:~$ sudo do-release-upgrade   /   Checking for a new Ubuntu release   /   No new release found16:22
JoshDreamlandso I'm "officially" on 13.10; I just can't get the package manager to not be a broken mess16:23
alexxxa3MadsRC: It's Xubuntu 12.04. XFCE16:23
MadsRCThat's wierd. I've had tremendous problem with sound too on an XFCE 12.04. My solution was to do ubuntu 13.10 and remove gnome16:24
SonikkuAmericaJoshDreamland: Run [ lsb-release -a ] (the - between LSB and release is an underscore)16:24
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SonikkuAmerica(For some reason I don't have an underscore in Android 4.4)16:25
JoshDreamlandreports saucy, No LSB modules are available.16:25
aguitelhow to know if i am using propietaries drivers ?16:25
SonikkuAmericaStill get a Live image and select "Reinstall Ubuntu 13.10" ...16:26
zykotick9aguitel: for what device?  video?  wlan?16:26
aguitelzykotick9, video16:27
alexxxa3unfortunately, grandpa lives in another country. All I can do is remote assistance (control). If somehow happens that X won't start (as a consequence of upgrading), I couldn't do anything on distance.16:27
SonikkuAmericaaguitel: Go to "Software and Updates" and look under the "Additional Drivers" tab16:27
alexxxa3I can't open port on his router16:27
zykotick9aguitel: what video card is it?  "lspci -v | grep -i vga" if you are unsure.16:27
zykotick9SonikkuAmerica: ftw ;)  aguitel16:28
aguitelzykotick9,  VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Wrestler [Radeon HD 7290] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])16:28
atma111need help, I have a proxy server "ubuntu server squid3" the pc's local network(windows7) have internet but the online games do not work (dota2 , wow, aion, starcraft2). What is the problem?16:28
SonikkuAmericaOh hello atma111, nice to see you again. Did you read what I told you to read?16:31
atma111SonikkuAmerica yeah everything is working16:33
atma111SonikkuAmerica my problem is games online16:34
atma111not working16:34
SonikkuAmericaNice to know your config is fixed. Are the ports you want to use open?16:35
atma111do not know the steam client not connecting16:37
SonikkuAmericaAnd you're not in offline mode?16:38
jukhello, can anyone help me out with this error: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"16:40
atma111yeah can not connect16:40
jukim getting this if launch glxinfo16:40
atma111SonikkuAmerica the problem may be iptables I have not configured16:41
Sonderbladejuk: probably your 3d card driver is not active16:41
SonikkuAmericaatma111: Is the machine you're using Steam on connected to the Internet?16:42
jukSonderblade: i can see nouveau in lsmod output16:42
atma111The Internet works well but no conect games online16:44
Sonderbladejuk: does xdpyinfo | grep DRI list anything?16:44
jukSonderblade: dri216:45
Arcs Hi all Im having trouble after installing Lubuntu from USB on an Acer aspire one after post it hangs and says ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxx - does not exist.  dropping to shell. Any help appreciated16:45
SonikkuAmericaatma111: You might try asking in #steamlug16:45
kostkonatma111, run steam from the terminal and look out for any relevant error messages16:46
SonikkuAmericaArcs: what are you using? Live? Alternate? OBI? (also #lubuntu is a better place to talk)16:46
kristenhi16:47
Arcs<SonikkuAmerica> it was using persistant mode and installed through that using USB latest edition16:47
Sonderbladejuk: then perhaps its not a big deal that the extension is missing16:49
atma111Connection does not connect because I have not allowed my ubuntu server is not listening to Connect (have ubuntu server squid3 2lans localnetwork windows7 conect internet proxy but no conect games online wow,stem,starcraft2)16:49
SonikkuAmericaArcs: well I have to go now...16:50
mrvortex`hello everyone. I'd like to create two NICs for a ubuntu virtual machine, one of bridge  and one of NAT, can someone kindly told me how to do that?16:50
compdocnever heard of a nat nic16:52
llutzmrvortex`: open virtualbox manager, go to your vm, select network, add adapter2, set nat/bridge like you want16:52
jukSonderblade: hm, kinda sucks16:52
llutzmrvortex`: or aren't you talking about virtualbox? details pls16:52
mrvortex`the host OS is fedora 19. and i am using virt-manager to create the VM16:53
jukSonderblade: is that the reason mouse pointer is flicking?16:53
bekksmrvortex`: However you have to configure your vm - when it results in ubuntu seeing two network devices you did it right.16:54
zeetrying to hot-add memory on an ubuntu VM (12.0.4 LTS), but it does not allocate in the VM without a reboot?16:54
zeeany idea why this is happening?16:55
Sonderbladejuk: i've never experienced mouse pointer flicker16:55
bekkszee: Because linux doesnt support memory hot add.16:55
zeeare you sure?16:55
bekkszee: At least not on non-NUMA nodes.16:55
zeeok16:55
zeeguess thats why I am baffled16:55
jukSonderblade: well, good for you, that's nvidia...16:56
mrvortex`do i need use the tunctl command to create a virtual NIC before editing the network interface configure file?16:56
bekksmrvortex`: You dont have to run a single command in ubuntu to configure your vm (outside of ubuntu) for having two nics.16:57
o_m_ghi16:57
zykotick9mrvortex`: you might want to try asking #virt on irc.oftc.net16:58
o_m_ghow r u all16:58
bekksmrvortex`: Keep it in the channel please. If you dont configure your vm "right", you wont see two nics in your vm.16:58
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mrvortex`then how to configure it right? In virt-manager i can't see the option to add an NIC17:00
mrvortex`the virt-manager tool of fedora seems to be different with the RHEL version which contains the option of managing NICs in VM details17:02
bekksmrvortex`: Ask Fedora and ##virt on how to do that please :)17:02
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Guest87819Hi! I'm trying to install 13.10 with two physical disks and encryption17:03
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Guest87819I'm having a lot of trouble with the installer17:04
mrvortex`OK I will have a try, is there some way to create a virtual NIC by run a command , like tunctl, brctl(for bridge)?17:04
bekksmrvortex`: You dont need to do that in your guest at all.17:04
Guest87819If I use the default setup, the installer only seems to be able to use one of my disks17:04
Guest87819If I use a custom setup, I have trouble with swap17:05
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beakGreetings all, what is the command to clean up my system and remove clutter?17:05
Guest87819one of the following three things happens: 1. I setup no swap. The installer complains, but I am allowed to proceed. This is clearly suboptimal in my setup, as I do want some swap17:05
mrvortex`you mean you did the configuration in VM manager tools,like virtualbox and kvm et...?17:05
bekksmrvortex`: Yes.17:06
raysaas> Guest87819: Please specify ur machine configuration here. U can setup swap later.17:06
Guest878192. I setup a two different physical partitions for encrypted swap and non-swap17:06
Guest87819raysaas, What configuration info would you like?17:07
Guest87819raysaas, and how can I setup swap later?17:07
bekksGuest87819: create a partition/volume, use mkswap and swapon.17:08
Guest87819in #2, the installer thinks there isn't an encrypted swap partition, and it calls this a fatal error17:08
raysaas>Guest7819:  For swap please check this out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq17:08
Guest87819bekks, I am a bit confused about that - the installer is very picky about where the swap is17:09
maciek1Hi all17:09
Guest87819bekks, it wants it to be encrypted in  its own physical volume17:09
subz3r0im searching the option in dconf editor where i can set the option that i can change the size of windows with the arrows in the corners17:10
subz3r0e.g Systemconfiguration wont let me change the size. any idea where i can find it in dconf editor17:11
subz3r0?17:11
beakstreamtuner2 is broken, how do I fix?17:11
subz3r0beak: "broken" is not a fully qualified problem explanation.17:11
beaksubz3r0, You can fix?17:12
Guest87819let me try to ask this question another way:17:12
bekksbeak: Describe your actual issue before, please.17:12
subz3r0beak: sure, ill ask my crystall ball and then do the magic...17:12
Guest87819I would like to install Ubuntu on two disks.17:12
Guest87819The first disk need not be encrypted. I'd like to put OS files and whatnot there. Perhaps /boot17:12
Guest87819I'd like the second disk to be encrypted, and I'd like it to have my swap and /home17:13
beaksubz3r0, I click on the channels and vlc does not fire up with the stream I wish, like it did since I first used it. I click on it and nothing happens. It worked okay until the last two months. Would you like me to give you the output via pastebin?17:13
bekksGuest87819: Then just encrypt your /home and put that on the second disk. Encrypting swap while not encrypting the rest of the system is nonsense.17:13
Guest87819And I'd like it to be decryptable with one password, so two physical volumes for encryption is not ideal17:13
subz3r0Guest87819:  I guess using LUKS(dm-crypt) with a lvm would be a good start. /boot wont be encrypted. but its not necessary17:14
Guest87819bekks, I did not mean to imply I wanted to encrypt swap without encrypting the rest of the system17:14
Guest87819Also, the installer doesn't seem to let me use two disks without a custom setup17:14
marcoagnerWat17:14
Guest87819but the custom setup is what I am having problems with - it doesn't seem to let me set up one volume on which I have both swap and /home17:15
subz3r0beak: i dont use it with vlc. i use it to grab radiostreams from the terminal17:15
bekksGuest87819: If you want to put the operatng system files on the first disk, which is unencrypted, the rest, besides swap and home IS unencrypted.17:15
marcoagnermarco12.com17:15
beaksubz3r0, I watch the videos17:15
beaksubz3r0, There is an anime channel I really like17:15
Guest87819bekks, yes, I would like the first disk to have the OS, and be unencrypted, while the second has /home and swap and is encrypted17:16
beaksubz3r0, VLC works fine, on its own, but the streamtuner2 is broken, i think17:16
Guest87819but I am having trouble getting the custom installer to do so17:16
bekksGuest87819: having the OS unencrypted and swap encrypted is nonsense.17:16
beaksubz3r0, I purged and reinstalled to no avail17:16
neongashow large can a liveCD be? Can a machine having 1GB RAM boot a 2GB liveDVD?17:16
bekksGuest87819: Just encrypt your home on the second disk.17:16
subz3r0beak: first you talked about streamtuner2, now its vlc. well open streamtuner within a shell and check for errors17:16
bekksneongas: Sure.17:16
Guest87819bekks, to your first question, why?17:16
Guest87819To your second question, I would love to do that, but I can't figure out how to get the installer to let me do that17:17
bekksGuest87819: Because your OS may be accessed and changed without you even noticing it.17:17
Guest87819I am willing to risk that attack vector17:17
beaksubz3r0, That is because streamtuner2 and vlc are connected17:17
subz3r0Guest87819: what ubuntu version?17:17
bekksGuest87819: Do a normal install. Put /home on the second disk. You will be asked wether /home shall be encrypted. Answer yes. Done.17:17
hunter_algum br ai?17:17
hunter_#brasil17:17
Guest87819subz3r0, 13.1017:18
DJones!br | hunter_17:18
ubottuhunter_: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.17:18
subz3r0!br | hunter_17:18
Guest87819bekks, hm. I can't seem to get the "normal" install to let me put home on the second disk.17:18
beaksubz3r0, http://pastebin.com/NzUG9wLN17:18
subz3r0Guest87819: so the installer should allow you easily to use dm-crypt and create a lvm with it17:18
subz3r0with 12.04 is was different(there you needed the alternate cd)17:18
bekksGuest87819: USe a custom layout, dont mess with encryption and just answer yes when being asked.17:18
Guest87819subz3r0, I see two installer options, custom and the default, and the default doesn't seem to let me use the second disk in any configuration, LVM or not17:19
Guest87819bekks, using a custom layout seems to require more than just answering yes when being asked on my machine17:20
subz3r0beak: since i dont use streamtuner2 and yours looks like messed up.. i would deinstall it and reinstall it then. "sudo apt-get purge packetname"17:20
anon12when mounting an external hard drive on a directory called hd I get: mount: warning: hd/ seems to be mounted read-only. the owner is set to root and I can't change the permissions using chown or chmod17:21
beaksubz3r0, Been there, done that.17:21
bekksGuest87819: using a custom layout does not require more.17:21
Guest87819bekks, Do you mena answer yes when asked about the encrypted /home? I could probably do that. That might be easier17:21
zykotick9anon12: is it a fat/ntfs parition?17:21
subz3r0beak: before you reinstall check if /usr/bin/streamtuner2 is empty17:22
subz3r0since most errors relates to that folder17:22
subz3r0-s17:22
anon12zykotick9, How would I check for a terminal? I think ntfs or ext17:22
Guest87819bekks, I guess we are witnessing different things, than. My custom layout screen just shows my physical hardware and its existing partitions. It does not set them up for me in a way that enables installation without further work17:22
zykotick9anon12: try "mount" to check17:22
anon12ntfs17:22
zykotick9anon12: i can't/won't help then.  good luck.  fyi, you can't use chown/chmod on fat or ntfs paritions, it's all "how it's mounted" - i don't know the details.17:23
anon12zykotick9, is there any documentation on ntfs?17:24
zykotick9anon12: (for use in ubuntu) i'd guess there is...  good luck.17:24
OmnIcKhi! :-) How can I find deps for a package?17:27
zykotick9OmnIcK: "apt-cache depends foo" is one way (assuming the package is in the repo)17:28
OmnIcKzykotick9: thanks! :-)17:28
MonkeyDustOmnIcK  apt-cache depends foo17:28
MonkeyDustzykotick9  was faster :)17:28
OmnIcKMonkeyDust: Thanks. ;-)17:29
OmnIcKHow to reinstall a package and all deps? (must I add all "by hand"?)17:30
MonkeyDustOmnIcK  apt-get install foo --reinstall17:31
silvysera17:31
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ubottusilvy: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)17:31
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ubottusilvy_: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».17:36
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zx42ohello while installing Ubuntu Desktop 12.04 LTS, I am having a repeated issue with a pop-up message "wired connection - disconnected you are now disconnected",  while troubleshooting this I installed a wireless adapter and now it says "wireless connection - disconnected you are now disconnected" LOL17:39
MonkeyDustzx42o  lol, but can you surf?17:39
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Annabel_hey folks hate to come here and ask a silly question but I have a Digital Ocean VPS which has 2GB of RAM. Should I chose 12.04.3 LTS 64 or 32 bit?18:00
Annabel_I do not intend to upgrade past 3GB of RAM. I honestly cannot ever foresee needing to.18:00
mazinhopessoal meu som parou de funcionar18:00
mazinhoalbuem pode me ajudar18:00
subz3r0Annabel_: depends on the cpu18:01
Annabel_The VPS offered 64bit as an option (they install default ubuntu for you)18:01
daftykinsAnnabel_: 32-bit would be fine, really depends what you're going to run18:01
Annabel_So I assume their CPUs are capable of 64bit18:01
subz3r0Annabel_: but since its virtualized machine...18:01
subz3r0use 32bit18:01
daftykinsAnnabel_: although planning for the future is always good18:01
Annabel_I intend to run a simple MTA with roundcube/sieve and LAMP18:02
subz3r0daftykins: planning for what? its a virtualized server...18:02
Annabel_Perhaps 15-20 websites, half of which utilise wordpress. all low traffic small business sites18:02
subz3r0Annabel_: correct me if im wrong, but you rented it? so there is no future :)18:02
Annabel_I don't understand what you mean by "there is no future" ?18:03
subz3r0Annabel_: go for 32bit. 64bit makes no sense with 2 gigs of ram18:03
mazinhoniguem pode me ajudar18:03
MonkeyDust!pt18:03
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ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.18:03
subz3r0Annabel_: daftykins advice was to plan for the future. but since you rented for the server, there is no "future". its not your line or hardware. so that does not matter18:04
subz3r0-for18:04
MonkeyDustAnnabel_  if you're not certain, then use 32bit18:04
Annabel_I see what you mean. I am able to upgrade to a maximum of 96GB, 96 cores if I wanted to with digital ocean18:04
Annabel_I won't ever need anywhere near that lol18:04
subz3r0no idea what digital ocean is... i guess its a provider18:05
daftykinssubz3r0: software reinstall future though ;D18:05
subz3r0daftykins: :D18:05
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MonkeyDusthttps://www.digitalocean.com/18:05
Annabel_That was kind of my primary issue18:05
Annabel_How long will people like dovecot/postfix/apache etc support 32bit OS's ?18:05
subz3r0i would prefer a dedicated one. but thats just my opinion... i dont like to share :P18:06
subz3r0even not my meal! :p18:06
tyteen4a04hey - I'm on 13.10 and terminal emulator seems to not work. I open it up and it doesn't show anything at all (normally you would see the user and command prompt bit). any pointers?18:06
zipaceAnnabel_: probably for a very, very long time, seeing as how most 64bit processors are backwards compatible to 32bit18:07
Annabel_This isn't one of those cheap shares, my hardware is dedicated to the point that the CPU/RAM/SSD is all mine to use up18:07
Annabel_Someone with a high traffic site can't use up 95% of my CPU allocation18:07
zipacetyteen4a04: what kind of terminal emulator are you using (gnome, kde, xfce, lxde, etc)?18:07
DexterFtyteen4a04: try anotehr emulator like a simple xterm. if that works its the emulator, if that does not work, too, something is strange about your ~/.bash* files18:07
Annabel_subz3r0: Okay folks you've been most helpful. I was kind of leaning toward 32bit purely because my existing Linode uses it x18:08
tyteen4a04zipace: I have xfce18:08
subz3r0Annabel_: did i mention that in any way?18:08
tyteen4a04DexterF: xterm works18:08
Annabel_subz3r0: hehe no I guess not x18:08
subz3r0Annabel_: but you an be sure, most providers wont provide the stuff you payed for. but most users arent able to check that18:08
tyteen4a04does that mean I should ask in #xfce?18:08
subz3r0can18:08
zykotick9DexterF: s/emulator/terminal emualtor/ or just terminal - an emulator is typically something different18:08
zipacetyteen4a04: okay, paste your ~/.bashrc to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ (BUT MAKE SURE TO REMOVE DELICATE INFORMATION!!)18:08
DexterFwhen I install 13.10 from scratch, will it detect SSDs properly and align partitions, set proper fstab options, map certain mounts to ram?18:09
computerguy901welcome to Wally's world!18:09
subz3r0Annabel_: anyways. have fun with the service. and like the others said too... youll be fine with 32 bit18:09
subz3r0:)18:09
Annabel_Thanks <318:09
zipacetyteen4a04: ignore my previous comment, haha18:09
bcuraboyhi guys.im having a problem.im running pear os 8,and after i made the updates and upgrades i cant boot.18:09
DexterFzykotick9: ...18:09
BeldarDexterF, you would have to align the partitions if you have a specific schema.18:10
zipacebcuraboy: do you get any kind of boot messages?18:10
tyteen4a04zipace: yeah, a shell script with delicate information...18:10
bcuraboyit tells to me : keys: press s to skip mounting or m for manual recovery..18:10
zipacebcuraboy: take a screenshot, or tak a picture or something, if it's very long18:10
bcuraboyive tried both options but still no boot...18:10
DexterFBeldar: nothing fancy. boot root home.18:10
BeldarDexterF, A swap would be set up as normal, the install does not setup optimization in other words.18:10
bcuraboyno boot messages18:11
zipacetyteen4a04: well, idk about you, but some people do have some private data in their bashrc files, hence why i warned you to check twice before uploading such files18:11
BeldarDexterF, a swap and a partition for the install on auto install18:11
tyteen4a04if it helps: 1. I did a partial upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 (for whatever reason), 2. terminal window seems to say that it is a GNOME terminal (3.6.1)18:11
DexterFzipace: which is good advice in general18:11
zipaceDexterF: yup18:11
bcuraboyalso ive made a fresh install in a clean disk,so i dont know what could cause the problem...18:12
DexterFBeldar: come again?18:12
BeldarDexterF, where?18:12
DexterFBeldar: what?18:12
zipacebcuraboy: fsck is running, just be patient18:12
BeldarDexterF, YOu do not understand be specific where.18:12
tyteen4a04zipace: I didn't really customize my OS that much, still getting used to switching from windows18:12
zipacebcuraboy: fsck = filesystem check, i.e., it checks your partitions for errors, and will continue booting once it's done18:12
DexterFBeldar: I have some trouble following you, I have to say: <Beldar> DexterF, a swap and a partition for the install on auto install18:13
zipacetyteen4a04: alrighty, just keep in mind not to upload arbitrary files without censoring potentially private information is all i'm saying18:13
bcuraboyso the only thing to do is wait?18:13
tyteen4a04zipace: yeah, I get it18:13
zipacebcuraboy: for better or worse, yes18:13
tyteen4a04zipace: back to my problem: you know of anything I can try?18:14
bcuraboyeven in a fresh install?18:14
BeldarDexterF, Ubuntu does the same auto install for a regular hd and a ssd a swap partition and a partition for the OS, any other is your responsibility.18:14
zipacebcuraboy: fsck checks usually indicate that your filesystem *may* have errors, so it's best to play the waiting game18:14
DexterFBeldar: got it18:14
bcuraboyok.. :/18:15
bcuraboythanks guys18:15
zipacetyteen4a04: difficult to say, as i use KDE, and i could only guess what might cause gnome-terminal to behave that way18:15
BeldarDexterF, If you are dual booting with a uefi however if installed in uefi it will install in that format.18:16
zipacetyteen4a04: as others said, you can try your luck in #xfce, as well as #gnome, they might be more specialised with this sort of problem18:16
tyteen4a04zipace: yeah18:17
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mommihallo18:20
jbruceI'm currently following the DisklessUbuntuHowto tutorial and I'm really stuck on getting nfs mounted during the boot process. Anyone have any experience with this process?18:26
MonkeyDustjbruce  with nfs yes, not with diskless18:27
jbruceMonkeyDust: I think the main issue I'm having is with nfs. I'm hitting a kernel panic when it tries to mount my nfs share during the boot process. I've checked my server logs and it doesn't actually ever try to contact the nfs server (but it has pulled an ip address).18:29
MonkeyDustjbruce  guess that would be more for #ubuntu-server18:29
jbruceoh cool18:29
MonkeyDustjbruce  just looked up the howto18:29
jbruceI can try that too18:29
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SrRavenSo, ill ask again, how do I boot from USB ? Its a macbook pro 8.1 that has a "broken" ubuntu 13.10 installation18:39
MonkeyDust!usb18:40
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent18:40
MonkeyDustSrRaven  use a program to install an iso on usb, insert usb stick in laptop, boot from usb18:41
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SrRaven...so your answer to my question how I boot from USB is to tell me to boot from USB ? :p18:41
Beldar!mac18:42
ubottuFor help on installing and using Ubuntu on a mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages18:42
SrRavenand yes, I know the mac page18:42
SrRaventhat aint helping either18:42
BeldarSrRaven, Not many here use apples, have some patience and give details.18:42
SrRavenwell, at the moment I simply need it to boot from USB so I can reinstall as my old one is broken18:43
SrRavenwhich happened because I followed someone here (meh) and upgraded the video drivers18:43
BeldarSrRaven, we are not bound to help you this is free help you get what you pay for.18:43
SrRavenwhich,according to other websites, are broken18:43
FohlenSonderblade, update was going fine ... now running ubuntu 13.04 ... only had to rebuild nvidia-current with depmod (only thing I had to do manually)18:44
Fohleneverything else worked just fine18:44
SrRavenyes Beldar I know that and I appreciate it, but I'm not a fan from "take these links and figure something out"18:44
Fohlen:)18:44
alokyadav15see ubuntu documentation how to boot from usb18:44
daftykinsSrRaven: you want to be holding alt after powering on, are you not getting a choice of your USB drive when you do this?18:44
SrRavenim not seeing the usb drive no18:45
alokyadav15SrRaven: which os do u have alive18:45
alokyadav15?18:45
* Beldar thanks a higher power for the ignore18:45
SrRavenarrogance is a bliss18:46
_bartHi I'm using UFW, but somehow it doesn't allow my connection to port 25: https://gist.github.com/bartolsthoorn/23e3b67ca9c51d951a6718:46
FohlenBeldar, keep in mind this is an open support channel ... people are not payed nor forced to answer you18:46
Fohlenbe glad if they do18:46
BeldarFohlen, I asked for no help18:47
llutz_bart: but there is a service listening on port 25?18:47
BeldarFohlen, I have been on here for years supporting, I never ask for help.18:47
MonkeyDustSrRaven  basically, yes, you asked my how to boot from usb, so I told you how18:47
SonderbladeFohlen: good for you, updates have gone wrong for me many times which is why i never recommend it for inexperienced users18:48
_bartllutz: yes, doing the same thing from the server itself works fine and shows a postfix message18:48
bekksBeldar: Yesterday or the day before was the last time you asked.18:48
bekksBeldar: however.18:48
Beldarbekks, on what?18:48
llutz_bart: and postfix listens on external ip and not localhost-only?18:48
Fohlensorry than Beldar, you might know then that beeing a supporter means beeing a retarded bastard ... so don't bother people if they ignore you18:49
Fohlenits common behavoir on irc18:49
_bartllutz: hmm that's a good question18:49
bekksBeldar: you would have to look up the logs - I dont memorize what people ask in high frequent channels like this.18:49
llutz_bart: sudo lsof -i :25   on server18:49
BeldarFohlen, I bothered no one.18:49
kostkonBeldar, though i knew you, wilee ;)18:49
DJonesFohlen: Please be polite, there's a policy of no swearing in the channel18:49
Beldarbekks, You are wrong I asked for no help is all.18:49
FohlenDJones, I'm just telling truth :P18:49
Fohlen:D18:49
Fohlen(19:45:24) ***Beldar thanks a higher power for the ignore >> so far on "I bother noone"18:50
DJonesFohlen: Well its not appropriate for the channel, so please don't in future18:50
BeldarFohlen, That is a open generalized comment18:50
_bartllutz: https://gist.github.com/bartolsthoorn/72041b988127ec8b7e8f18:50
Fohlenk, I try to keep that in mind18:50
_bartllutz: but maybe I should check the postfix conf18:51
llutz_bart: couldn't harm, but *.smtp means listens on all ifaces18:51
_bartllutz: any other ideas what could be blocking it? Maybe you'd like to see the iptables?18:52
_bart(they are generated by ufw)18:52
llutz_bart: i'm not familiar with ufw, but the "tcp/25 allow incoming from anywhere" sounds correct. Other rules shouldn't affect that18:53
FohlenDJones, I'm a supporter in many channels too ... like for years ... sometimes supporting people just requires to be ingorant and retarded18:54
Fohlen:)18:54
Fohlenwas not about swearing or hesitating anyone18:54
MonkeyDustFohlen  we get the message, let's move on, shall we18:54
Fohlenk18:54
llutz_bart: does it work if you switch ufw off for a short test?18:55
llutz_bart: that'll mean that postfix works correct.18:55
_bartllutz: nope, so maybe it's postfix that is not properly listening with the wrong conf, not about the firewall, I'll check18:57
uBUXUBucan i load and run my OS (buntu1204) off of a new 32gb pny thumb drive?18:58
uBUXUBuand have it run fast18:58
uBUXUBusomeone in hardware just told me yes but it will run slow??18:58
MonkeyDustuBUXUBu  it's called a !persistent installation18:58
uBUXUButoo me it should run like a ssd18:59
uBUXUBuim seeing 32gb drives for 15 dollars18:59
BeldaruBUXUBu, externals run a bit slower is all even if usb318:59
uBUXUBuis that fast MonkeyDust18:59
uBUXUBuis it faster than x7200 mechanical dives?18:59
MonkeyDustuBUXUBu  depends on what you call fast19:00
uBUXUBufast is faster than modern 7200 drives19:00
uBUXUBufast is like my kingston ssd19:00
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steve_fiuBUXUBu, that depends on how fast the USB drive is19:02
prashant_123456anyone here using i3 window manager ?19:03
jhutchinsuBUXUBu: I can tell you that running Linux off of a USB2 drive is going to be painfully slow.19:04
llutzusb3 works fine, but slow compared to internal ssd19:04
jhutchinsuBUXUBu: I haven't tried it with USB3.  Linux typically does not perform well on USB connections.19:04
jhutchinsInternal SSD is REALLY fast.19:04
jhutchinsNoticible difference between ssd and 10k drives.19:05
kostkon!anyone | prashant_12345619:05
ubottuprashant_123456: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.19:05
kostkon:/19:05
uBUXUButy jhutchins19:06
prashant_123456yes u r right $mod + d not working in my i3 window manager19:06
uBUXUBuif it doesnt perform fast i dont need it19:06
Guerrillahow do you play a dvd movie in the cd player on lubuntu19:07
llutzuBUXUBu: usb2 is never fast, it cannot be, by design19:07
zykotick9prashant_123456: i'd suggest looking for an i3 channel, i doubt many *buntu people use it...  good luck.19:07
BeldarGuerrilla, Have you installed the lubuntu-restricted-extras19:08
uBUXUBubummer sounded like fun19:08
Guerrillanot sure19:08
Guerrillawhats the command19:08
uBUXUBuithink it would be great to have a fast protable OS19:08
BeldarGuerrilla, sudo apt-get install lubuntu-restricted-extras19:08
uBUXUBuportable*19:08
prashant_123456ok19:09
BeldaruBUXUBu, There are some fast tablets.19:09
Beldarand laptops19:09
Guerrillait only plays for a second19:10
Guerrillathen it comes off19:10
Guerrillait only lets me explore the disk19:10
Guerrillai just want to run the movie19:10
BeldarGuerrilla, Try several dvd's19:10
belgianguyGuerrilla: tried VLC?19:11
Guerrillais there a way to make it auto run19:11
BeldarGuerrilla, Isolate that it may be this one.19:11
Guerrillaidk if i  have vlc19:11
BeldarGuerrilla, vlc is the same apt-get install19:13
Guerrillak19:13
Guerrillajust ran it19:13
BeldarGuerrilla, here is some more info related to the restricted extras and dvd's. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs19:14
GuerrillaPlayback failure:19:14
GuerrillaDVDRead could not open the disc "/dev/dvd".19:14
GuerrillaYour input can't be opened:19:14
GuerrillaVLC is unable to open the MRL 'dvd:///dev/dvd'. Check the log for details.19:14
GuerrillaPlayback failure:19:14
FloodBot1Guerrilla: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:14
GuerrillaDVDRead could not open the disc "/dev/dvd".19:14
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uBUXUBulotta ppl comoin and goin here19:21
a_a19:22
uBUXUBusee19:22
BeldaruBUXUBu, Many irc apps allow you to have that off if you like19:23
uBUXUBuo cool19:23
uBUXUBumy whole screen is loaded with them19:23
Beldarit can be disconcerting19:23
uBUXUBuin fact, the activity of pl coming and going far exceeds the tech chat by prolly 25:1 ratio19:24
MonkeyDustuBUXUBu  you can hide those meesages19:25
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bugtraqhola19:29
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Tex_Nickhello19:31
bugtraqhi19:31
spexiHi! If I would like to install Ubuntu now, which version is the best when you think of the future and upgrading to 14.04 LTS? So if I don't want to do clean install with 14.04, is it better to upgrade from 12.04 LTS or for example 13.10?19:35
SrRavenalright so my ubuntu 13.10 seems to work, whats the easiest way to make a full image of it so I can put that on if worse comes to worse?19:37
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kostkonspexi, it wouldn't matter, only 4 months are left for 14.04 so you might as well install 13.1019:38
PyrricWhats up guys19:39
theowner997Hello I am trying to run Android Kitchen on Ubuntu , I am new to Linux please help me :)19:41
SrRavenyou sure you want to use android kitchen ? its quite complicated19:41
SrRavenand linux isnt much easier19:41
theowner997Just tell me how to run it :)19:42
SrRavenhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5626300&postcount=319:42
SrRavenGo there and read it up,explained there in detail.19:42
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anon12theowner997, Are you trying to run an Android app on Ubuntu?19:44
SrRavenandroid kitchen is a custom rom "maker"19:44
anon12ok19:44
Beldartheowner997, have you looked here there are specifics mentioned for ubuntu. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=63324619:44
Tex_Nickspexi: 13.04 was really stable for me, however support for it will end shortly ... I'm currently using 13.10 and is is still a bit flakey on this box ... 12.04 is rock solid stable ... so either 12.04 or 13.10 & I don't think you'll really find much benifit in 13.10 vs 12.0419:45
Beldartheowner997, post #319:45
SrRavenso....where is my usb stick :s19:45
spexithanks kostkon and Tex_Nick, I guess I'll go with 13.10 then19:47
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uBUXUBulotta spam here19:49
BeldaruBUXUBu, PM spam?19:49
uBUXUBuno public19:49
theowner997Followed all steps but still can't run it.19:49
uBUXUBuping timeouts like crazy19:50
uBUXUBusomeone must be messing with the servers19:50
Tex_NickuBUXUBu: that's not spam ;)19:50
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Beldartheowner997, Part of the problem here is this is not a ubuntu app, it's 3rd party, I doubt many here if any have used it, I have never heard of it till now, as well 3rd patry stuff is technically not supported. This does not mean you will get no help, it just may be sporadic.19:51
uBUXUBuyeah i know but its not good19:51
MonkeyDustuBUXUBu  what's your irc client?19:52
BeldaruBUXUBu, time outs in that you get knocked off the channel?19:53
uBUXUBuno tons of others19:54
BeldarI have the join and leave off19:54
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MonkeyDustuBUXUBu  please hide those messages, so they don't bother you anymore (and you stop telling how much they bother you)19:55
Beldar+119:55
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Beldar!away > GTB3NW_AWAY19:57
ubottuGTB3NW_AWAY, please see my private message19:57
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tsnyphneed some help please. i changed by linux password, and now both my passwords work. wtf?20:03
Beldartsnyph, both?20:03
tsnyphyes both20:03
tsnyphwhen i sudo su i can use both passwords and they work20:03
Beldartsnyph, what both?20:03
alokyadav15tsnyph: lolz thats funhy20:03
alokyadav15funny20:03
alokyadav15hahhaha20:04
MonkeyDusttsnyph  there's only 1 password, the one you use to login is the same as sudo20:04
tsnyphim telling you both my passwords work20:05
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Beldartsnyph, Did you make a root password besides the user password?20:05
tsnyphthis is what i did, i loged in as root so sudo su then i typed passwd, it promted me for a new password and i changed it, confimed it, then exit20:07
alokyadav15tsnyph: your pass match with some other users with sudo permissions thats why its happening20:07
Beldartsnyph, Your not supposed to make a password in  root in ubuntu20:08
tsnyphhow do i fix it?20:08
Beldartsnyph, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo20:09
tendorhello guys20:10
regorianerhey, a question about ttyUSBx: is it possible to configure a usbHUB, so that i can define, which device can be connected to which port and only this port? better i explain using a simple example: lets assume there a 5 different usb device with different functionalities but equal meta information, so that the kernel cannot determine which type of usb device was connected. so what happens if i plug in a usb device, it gets mounted as ttyUSB0 20:11
regorianerthe next as ttyUSB1 an so on. that make it impossible to determine which device is the device to use within a program if the order of plug-ins is changed. what i need is a port (lets say ttyUSB1) that only handles usb device of type X. in simple words i need to secure, that the HUB mounts as the ports are located (e.g. always port0 as ttyUSB0, port1 as ttyUSB1 and so on - if no device on port0 is not connected the device connected on port1 20:11
regorianerbe mounted as ttyUSB1 and not ttyUSB0).20:11
tendoranyone who could help me with a disc recovery (i'm don't wanna screw up)? i've send a friend a command for creating bootable usb and didn't know that he had two hdds in pc, so sdb indicated to that disc...20:11
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Beldartendor, Relying on us for your mistakes implicitly is not a fair scenario, however testdisk is a good recovery tool.20:13
Beldartendor, The best scenario here would your friend having images/clones20:14
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aghinugrohodhttp://www.pornhub.com/20:15
aghinugrohodhttp://www.pornhub.com/20:15
FloodBot1aghinugrohod: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:15
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Beldar!ops | aghinugrohod20:15
ubottuaghinugrohod: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!20:15
tendorBeldar, thanks i know that is my screw up, i just dont want to screw it up more it is 500gb disc, that had two partitions with 250gb, i want to primarly save the second part20:17
Beldartendor, we can't really guarantee anything though.20:18
tendorBeldar, i know20:19
SmallJokerHello, how can I _decrease_ my OpenGL version or remove the wrong graphic driver?20:23
SrRavenwhat settings do I need to enable so I can enter a machine from within the network?20:24
jhutchinsSrRaven: What do you mean by "enter"?20:25
Jumpiehey guys20:25
Jumpienot exactly sure which part, but i have confirmed t hat apt-get upgrade is causing my system to hang at boot splash screen20:25
SrRavenuse ssh to log in20:25
Jumpiestrangely dmesg doesnt show anything quirky20:25
SrRavenso I dont have to switch from this PC to the laptop over and over20:25
Jumpieis there a way to revert this command or narrow downe xactly what caused the hang? the actual upgrade was successful20:25
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SmallJokerAnyone? Is there a tutorial to remove the existing graphic driver?20:26
SrRavenI think you have to remove the xorg file, but ive been using linux for 1 day now :/20:26
jhutchinsSrRaven: No, don't have to do anything with xorg, just enable sshd.20:27
SmallJokerWell, I'm using ubuntu now since 2 days, but I've reinstalled that applicaton aleready serval times and nothing changed20:27
jhutchinsSrRaven: I'm not sure it's installed by default.20:27
SrRavenhow would I check that?20:30
dufaSrRaven: in order to aneble ssh login you need to install the server. you can find the openssh server in the package "ssh"20:33
SrRaventhanks20:34
jhutchinsSrRaven: I don't have access to an Ubuntu system at the moment, but if it's in the ssh package then it should be installed, you just have to enable it as a service and start it.20:34
jhutchinsSrRaven: Configurable in /etc/ssh/sshd_config20:35
SrRaventhanks !20:35
kreugerhey all20:36
alokyadav15hello20:36
linux_drI'm trying to grok the upstart intro/cookbook, but I'm feeling a bit on a wild goose chase... can someone here point me to an easy way (maybe in the upstart cookbook) to have OpenSSHd come up AFTER everything else in the system is up and running? I'm defaulting to run level 2 in Saucy Salaander Server.20:37
linux_dr(this is all within Vagrant and virtual box)20:37
shawn1963is this the support channel?20:37
shawn1963durrr never mind I can't read20:38
shawn1963I need a bit of help on an install to a 32Gb flashdrive.20:38
dragonflyshawn1963, what is the issue you are having?20:39
kreugerIm having an issue logging in20:40
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Merphis-0x71hey 0x71 (xc) Our code two of which is Mepis and Morphos http://www.mepis.org and http://morphos.de come to efnet #0x71.org to discuss it and http://0x71.org/2013/12/22/0x71-xc-our-boss-coded-2-os-for-all-of-you-not-even-me-skraito-understand-what-it-is-you-can-try-it-ourselve-of-course-is-super-power-is-coded-by-god-our-boss-which-is-jesus-christ-all-glory-b/20:40
shawn1963dragonfly: I just sent you a "private", hope I did it right, message.20:41
shawn1963dragonfly: I saw the pop up but wasn't sure what to do with it.  I am reaaaaaallly rusty with IRC.20:43
tendorBeldar, thanks testdisk was able to help20:43
dragonflyshawn1963, does it give a message when it fails?20:43
c4ptI am using samba with an old xbox for media sharing, I setup samba but some of the users and groups didn't exist,  does samba change users and groups to samba-user:100* if those user names and groups arent there yet , I have heard that samba is a really weak protocol to use to share files from its vulernablities20:44
shawn1963dragonfly: It just tells me that the installer has failed and that a report will be generated and sent to the developers.  But I don't know what the report says.20:44
c4ptnevermind.20:44
shawn1963dragonfly: I've had it installed on the hd once before but ever since then I have been able to complete the install to either the hd or to usb.20:45
shawn1963dragonfly: you still there?20:47
tendorBeldar, thx testdisk helped20:48
* LinoSP has successfully installed Debian Wheezy 7.3.0 i386 LXDE on a 13yo laptop Toshiba 1555CDS AMD-K6 380Mhz 160MB RAM ^_^ =D20:49
Beldartendor, Cool I figured it would, I just don't want to give any false hopes. ;)20:49
LinoSPWhy Ubuntu doesn't support AMD K6  CPUs ?20:49
LinoSP:(20:50
BeldarLinoSP, probably info on the web if this is true.20:50
Beldarnone of us are associated with canonical is all20:51
BeldarLinoSP, debian in general is a lighter install, ubuntu can light install with a net install.20:52
BeldarLinoSP, I would assume that is a non pae kernel compliant cpu, the net install would work, or maybe of lubuntu, xubuntu, tis a slow cpu is all if supported.20:56
sonoio#italia21:01
sonoiociao21:02
kreugerCan I run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg from in a live cd?21:03
sonoiociao a tutti21:04
DJones!it | sonoio21:04
ubottusonoio: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)21:04
linux_drsonoio: lol... I now know barely enough Italian to know what that means... take care... lol21:05
daedelothdoes anyone have chrome, an xbox controller and the xbox controller drivers installed in ubuntu? :p21:10
daedelothI'm wondering if I have a freak issue, or if this is a structural thing21:10
daedeloth(wrongly mapped keys in ubuntu / linux)21:10
jhutchinsdaedeloth: I think there are some good guides on the web, but I don't have an xbox controller.21:12
daedelothno everything is set up right, but there seems to be an issue with the mapping21:13
daedelothand I'm not sure if it's me, or linux in general21:13
daedelothI need to remap them, but I want to make sure that it's not just my computer being misconfigured or something :)21:13
jojo_I think the only way to figure this out is probably to tinker21:14
jojo_You could remap, and if that doesn't work, then start screwing with the configuration and reading through the man pages21:15
daedelothwell, like I said, there is no real problem here :) It's just that, if I add filters for linux in my scripts, all linux users will have this mapping21:15
daedelothbah I hate this experimental stuff. :)21:16
daedelothI'm going to start with just ignoring the issue until I get linux complaints21:16
daedelotheven though I'm actually running ubuntu myself21:16
uBUXUBume too21:16
Guest29875i also run ubuntu21:17
Guest2987512.0421:17
uBUXUBuit is difficult to not run ubuntu these days21:17
uBUXUBuyes 120421:17
jojo_linux is all about experimenting, haha.21:17
daedeloth(did I triggre something here?)21:17
daedelothno, I don't agree21:17
jojo_Ubuntu makes linux so much easier than it's ever been21:17
douglhow hard is it to make a script to say "Hi" or a private message on join indication - what should I google for?21:17
uBUXUBuits is becoming neccasary to run ubuntu these days21:18
jojo_10 years ago, I just expected to spend a few days tinkering to get a linux distro working smoothely21:18
jhutchinsdougl: Depends on your (presumably irc) client.21:18
jojo_what kind of script21:18
Beldardougl, The channel does not like extra join or part stuff.21:18
jhutchinsdougl: Not somethng you'd do on a tech channel like this.21:19
jojo_dougl: the answer to your question partially depends on which irc client you are using21:20
douglnot so I need to open a private chat with "specificnick" when he joins this channel or #kubuntu so I can instruct him how to proceed after he boots the Kubuntu 13.10 I installed on his computer... xchat21:21
EminentDomaindoes anyone have any experience in any HDMI sticks that can run Ubuntu21:23
* dougl installed kubuntu on bosses son's computer along side the cleaned windows 7 install... now tripple booting - linux, ms recovery and windows 721:23
EminentDomaini'm trying to buy some hdmi sticks to try and make into a front end for plex and/or xbmc21:23
douglEminentDomain, WHAT IS A HDMI STICK21:23
dougloops21:23
MonkeyDustdougl  i guess it depends on your irc client21:24
* Beldar loves being self employed21:24
douglsorry for yelling21:24
EminentDomainlike a computer in a stick form tht plugs into a tv21:24
douglMonkeyDust,  xchat21:24
douglI used to do it on mirc in windows 98 so I thot it would be a cakewalk in linux... but am unsure what to google for...21:25
EminentDomainhttp://lightake.com/detail.do/sku.RK3188_Quad_Core_Android_4.2_UGOOS_UG802B_1080P_HDMI_Output_2G_DDR3_Mini_PC_TV_Stick_-64051?gclid=CIjHvaPixLsCFew7MgoddTEAoQ21:25
EminentDomainthats a sample of one21:25
MonkeyDustdougl  better ask in the xchat channel, how scripts are made and handled21:25
douglMonkeyDust, thanks - will do...21:26
MonkeyDustdougl  type /join #xchat21:27
douglEminentDomain, do you know what a raspberry pi is? xbmc runs awesome on that 40 dollar computer that runs debian etc21:27
dougltype /join #xchat21:27
dougllol21:27
kreugerok this is weird. My computer boots to grub then it just hangs. there's no counter and neither my kb or mouse have power.21:27
MonkeyDustkreuger  are they wireless?21:28
Beldarkreuger, hangs on the grub menu or a black screen post grub?21:28
kreugerno they're USB21:29
kreugerthe grub menu21:29
kreugerIm gonna try my ps/2 kb21:29
kreugerthat works. odd21:29
kreugeronce im past that screen, my mouse came on and so did the USB kb21:30
Beldarkreuger, Is the dead keyboard a basic generic?21:30
kreugerits working now21:30
liam___                                                                                                        im workin on a installer script http://dpaste.com/1518824/ any ideas to make the code neater/cleaner21:30
kreugerI just cant get the computer to login now21:31
Guest40113any GUI tool to convert html pages to pdf?21:31
liam___im working on a auto install script type thing http://dpaste.com/1518824/ any ideas how to make it a little cleaner code wise21:32
MonkeyDustGuest40113  abiword21:33
Guest29875liam___,  clean code does not matter........ readable/understandable code is the only thing that matters21:34
wikiwillhi guys, i'm trying to run steam for windows, in WINE, but after it connects my account it crashes giving me this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6619729/21:34
jojo_Guest, clean code == readable/understandable code21:34
Guest29875wikiwill, you realize that steam works perfect under ubuntu 12.04 right?21:35
MonkeyDustGuest40113  Guest29875 please choose a more readable nickname21:35
wikiwillguest, im using ubuntu 13.10, is that the problem?21:35
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Quest_MonkeyDust,  did that21:35
Quest_MonkeyDust,  abiword is a word pocesser21:35
Quest_processor21:36
ralphthewindowsuwikiwill, maybe ? idk but try installing the linux version of steam with the correct drivers21:36
gmachine_24Quest: or a typing program :-)21:36
Quest_i need a tool to convert from html to pdf21:36
MonkeyDustQuest_  just checked, you can "save as pdf"21:36
ralphthewindowsuMonkeyDust, openoffice?21:36
kreugerIm uploading a video to youtube to show the issue Im having. When it's done, I'll share it here21:36
jojo_wikiwill: probably not.  I would install steam based on the documentation for ubuntu here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve21:36
MonkeyDustralphthewindowsu  no, abiword handles both html and pdf21:36
Quest_MonkeyDust,  ya but I need html to pdf. not word to pdf. I already have html files21:36
wikiwillralphthewindowsu: steam for linux will not run non-linux games21:36
knightshadeQuest_: there is wkhtmltopdf, whcih does what you want, but is not a gui tool21:37
MonkeyDustQuest_  just tried, you can open html files and save as pdf, with abiword21:37
Quest_ok21:38
jojo_wikiwill: why do you want to run non-linux games on linux?  Just use Virtualbox to create a Windows VM.21:38
wikiwilljojo: will virtualbox take full advantage of my GPU?21:38
liam___i dont think so21:38
guntbertwikiwill: no, it gets a virtual GPU21:40
slashsuxthis isnt the channel i want to BE IN21:40
gmachine_24so..............leave21:41
SchrodingersScatgmachine_24: he did.21:41
wikiwillOkay, well what i would like to do is play games that use steam for DRM, but play them on linux. these games do not have a linux version, and WINE seems to be the best option.21:41
gmachine_24ha. schrodingersScat... funny name21:41
ralphthewindowsuwhy is a poop joke funny gmachine_24 ?21:42
SchrodingersScatwikiwill: worth a shot, good luck.21:42
wikiwillYes it is worth a shot, but the problem is it isn't working, i was hoping the IRC could provide insight?21:42
SchrodingersScatwikiwill: that's not very ubuntu related, results may vary as it is.  have you checked the winehq database for whatever you're trying to play?21:44
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jojo_wikiwill: If I were in your position, I would go out and buy a second HDD or partition the hard drive I'm on and dual boot windows and linux21:45
wikiwillschrodingersscat: you're right, my mistake. the winehq database says the steam client works flawlessly21:45
jojo_Wine itself creates a sort of VM environment that can affect performance, anyway, so you still might not get what you want21:45
wikiwilljojo_: already done, but I'd like to get ubuntu working as a replacement for windows21:46
SchrodingersScatwikiwill: the client maybe, but you should check the game, but the client should also have steps you need to take to install, etc.21:46
jojo_I understand, but sometimes you just can't replace everything21:46
jojo_but I get it, I loathe Microsoft21:46
SchrodingersScatwikiwill: ask them why they don't support linux and hate freedom.21:47
wikiwillschrodingersscat: all the game's i've tried have tried to launch steam for DRM before launching themselves, and those that did not use it for DRM worked. I followed necessary steps to install(i think). I'm not sure that Valve(the company who makes steam) hates linux, maybe freedom, but they won't answer anyway21:48
jojo_steam does not hate linux21:49
jojo_I think it's the game manufacturers tying their hands behind their backs21:49
MonkeyDustwikiwill  by struggling, maybe you can become a linux-steam expert yourself21:50
wikiwilljojo_: no, in this case the issue is steam isn't launching21:50
jojo_but I know that there is talk about making Sabayon Linux the official distro for linux gaming21:50
jojo_steam not working != steam community hates linux, lol21:51
gmachine_24ralphthewindowsu: in reply to your question about schrodingersscat please see http://pastebin.com/npQ6jVSS21:51
jojo_just means theres a bug or something21:51
wikiwilljojo_: yes, thats why i responded "im not sure valve hates linux"21:51
wikiwillbut ill look elsewhere, thanks21:52
jojo_aah, my bad21:55
kreugerAlright guys so here's my issue. I can't login to my computer which has  Lubuntu 12.10 (I believe). When I boot it up, the Xubuntu wallpaper comes up (I havent changed it) and nothing happens. If I hit ctrl+alt+f1 to try and get a terminal, I just get a blank screen and blinking cursor. Eventually I get part of the loading sign and that's it. Ive recorded a video on my phone and put it here http://www.youtube.com/21:56
kreugerwatch?v=15qY4ugYUp421:56
FloodBot1kreuger: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.21:56
kreugerStupid bot. It's not a flood.21:57
EminentDomaindoug1 yes i know what raspberry pi is and have been using one21:57
EminentDomainjust curious about the mini pc sticks21:57
jojo_krueger, have you installed an alternative window manager for X11?21:58
jojo_such as XMonad or dwm?21:58
kreugerIt has OpenBox. Originally I was using Xubuntu, then I switched to LXDE21:59
kreugerI thought originally it was a video driver issue. Im not sure now22:00
YPanzerHi everybody. I need some little help with WeeChat22:00
YPanzeris somebody who use it for the chat ?22:01
SchrodingersScat!ask | YPanzer22:02
ubottuYPanzer: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:02
MonkeyDustYPanzer  450+ people in #weechat22:02
jojo_krueger: have you checked to make sure you installed all of the lxde components including the lxde login manager?22:03
jojo_you might need to make sure have fully uninstalled the old login manager, as well22:03
YPanzerSchrodingersScat: ok, I have the nick already registred with NickServ with assigned password. How to make /connect to certain server using nich/pass?22:03
jojo_if you switched to a new one22:03
kreugerYeah, It used to work before. I think something got mixed up when I upgraded to 12.10. I haven't been able to use the computer for over a yr and havent really needed it but my laptop is running out of space so I need it now. I switched to LightDM from the lxde login manager22:04
SchrodingersScatYPanzer: http://www.weechat.org/files/doc/devel/weechat_quickstart.en.html#irc_server_options22:05
kreugerjojo_, any more ideas?22:09
YPanzerSchrodingersScat: Thaks22:12
YPanzerSchrodingersScat: thanks22:13
SchrodingersScatYPanzer: welcome.22:14
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devyncjohnsonWhere is the best place to offer Ubuntu-developers ideas for Ubuntu?22:18
devyncjohnsonI am wanting to be a "think-tank" for Ubuntu.22:18
linux_drI'm picking through the docs on upstart... can anyone help my configure Saucy Salamander to have OpenSSHd start up *AFTER* the system is in an otherwise stable state?22:18
honestemuWhat do you guys use as an IM client? I'm using pidgin, but it doesn't seem to have group-chat support for Google or Facebook. Any recommendations or possible solutions?22:20
devyncjohnsonI use Pidgin for Google's hangouts.22:20
mikael_#smartphone22:21
honestemudevyncjohnson:So group chat works?22:22
devyncjohnson@honestemu yes. here is documentation - https://support.google.com/a/answer/49147?hl=en22:23
bjrohanI just installed a router as an AP, it is on .135 on my main router. This new AP has a USB port on it with a drive attached. How can I figure out how to access that drive? would it be on a particular port on that machine?22:25
devyncjohnsonI will be back after a while. I will leave Pidgin on so I can see what was said while I was gone.22:26
kreugerSomeone please help :(22:27
bekkskreuger: you have to specify a problem first :)22:28
kreugerbekks, I have. And included a video too22:28
SuperLagI'm going crazy.22:29
SuperLagCan you change the hotkey for the Unity menu?22:29
bekkskreuger: Well, I will not watch a video describing a problem. Would you mind to repeat the problem description?22:29
SuperLagI'm using many VMs on my laptop, and I want the Super key to active the menu only in the VM... but not in the host22:29
kreugerbekks, it's not a video describing, it's showing exactly what happens because it's easier than trying to explain. basically I can't get a display manager to log in. And hitting the hotkeys for terminal doesnt work either22:30
SuperLagDash, sorry. Dash.22:30
SuperLagCan I change what key activates Dash? like Ctrl-Super, even?22:30
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SuperLagI think I figured it out. compizconfig-settings-manager22:33
MonkeyDustSuperLag  is this useful? dconf-editor, org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings22:35
hellmen33bonsoir a tous22:35
YOURBESTFRIEND!fr | hellmen3322:36
ubottuhellmen33: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.22:36
hellmen33un conseil pour un jeu installé sur playonlinux ?22:36
bekkskreuger: did you boot up in rescue mode to investigate the logs?22:40
kreugerbekks, no because until today, I wasn't even seeing the grub menu. I tried choosing an older kernel and nothing happened22:40
bekkskreuger: then boot into rescue mode and additionally check wether your disk is full.22:41
kreugerthere's plenty of space left, I was able to see that when I booted a live cd. I'll try rescue mode though22:42
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kreugerbekks, im at the recovery menu. what do you suggest I try?22:47
bekkskreuger: Investigate the logs to see what happened.22:49
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kreugerbekks, should I drop to root terminal then?22:49
kreugerbekks, my options are "resume, clean, dpkg, fsck, grub, network, root, system-summary"22:50
bekksyes.22:50
kreugerany specific log?22:51
Guest91999mini244022:52
Guest91999ecos experts?22:52
Guest91999#mini244022:53
bekkskreuger: The X logs, the .xsession-errors, etc.22:53
Guest91999I m trying to use redboot on mini244022:53
Guest91999but no luck22:53
RiskkkkkkOHi, could you please help me to format win8 from dell xps and install ubuntu? I've tried many things without succcess,22:53
such_coinsRiskkkkkkO, what did you try?22:54
such_coinsI don't know much about linux so usually I'm not the guy to ask22:54
such_coinsbut I just did that a week ago22:54
kreugerbekks, how can I see a list of hidden files from the terminal?22:54
such_coinson my dell xps 1222:54
bekkskreuger: ls -lha22:54
kreugerxsession-errors is blank22:55
LinoSPBeldar: Lubuntu 10.04 was the last  *buntu that I could install in this laptop, newer versions are impossible to boot22:55
RiskkkkkkOsuch_coins i've tried to launch the ubuntu installation from the usb drive and dvd22:55
Red-Foxquestion, chromium crashes when i try to save something.. was working fine moments ago22:56
such_coinsRiskkkkkkO, what happened when you tried? I need a bit more details to know what went wrong.22:56
Red-Foxwoops nvm solved22:56
RiskkkkkkOwith the usb pendrie, just get black screen with underline at the top of screen on the left side22:57
devyncjohnsonWhere is the best place to offer Ubuntu-developers ideas for Ubuntu?22:57
RiskkkkkkOwith the dvd different error message22:57
bekksRiskkkkkkO: and which error message...?22:58
such_coinsRiskkkkkkO, how did you install the iso?22:58
bjarneDoes anyone know how I can roll back my AMD Catalyst drivers from 13.10 to 12.4/12.8 ?23:00
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ralphthewindowsubjarne, remove and reinstall?23:00
kreugeroops, I made a mistake opening the file. ive got it now23:00
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bekksbjarne: Reinstall 12.0423:00
bekksbjarne: err *12.4/12.8 :)23:01
rzralphwinxpuserbekks, dont be silly nobody has to reinstall an os for that23:01
bjarnerzralphwinxpuser: can i find 12.4 in the repos somewhere?23:01
Red-Foxbjarne do you mean the fglrx or the xorg open source ones?23:01
RiskkkkkkOsuch_coins the DvD with ultra iso and the usb with the universal usb installer 1.9.523:01
bekksrzralphwinxpuser: I'd not use > 12.04 until now due to the support duration. ;)23:01
MonkeyDust12.04 <323:02
bjarneRed-Fox: the fglrx23:02
such_coinsRiskkkkkkO, did you turn off secure boot?23:02
such_coinsRiskkkkkkO, I'm not sure if that would help, but someone recommended it to me23:02
rzralphwinxpuserbekks, i only use LTS releases23:03
Red-Foxhttps://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx23:03
RiskkkkkkOsuch_coins I don't know how to disable the secure boot, because there isn't any option on the BIOS menu to do that23:03
Red-Foxtry there23:03
such_coinsRiskkkkkkO, I'm pretty sure there is... hold on23:03
bekksrzralphwinxpuser: Then you know what a typo is in terms of 12.4 and 12.0423:03
bjarneRed-Fox: thanks23:04
rzralphwinxpuserbekks, typos are bad23:04
Red-Foxnp23:04
kreugerbekks, it gives me a couple of gtk-message errors then it basically tells me where more logs are. I should open up the one it lists now and see23:04
such_coinsRiskkkkkkO, http://www.maketecheasier.com/disable-secure-boot-in-windows-8/23:04
bekkskreuger: What is "it"?23:04
kreugerthe .xsession-errors log23:04
zinuxbs23:05
hunter_#Brasil23:05
zinuxmorocco23:05
zinuxfrench23:06
MonkeyDustswahili23:06
bekksArikapu23:07
kreugerbekks, Ive opened the log file in ~/.cache/lxsession/LXDE. a lot more errors here. Not sure how to get them all into pastebin.23:07
kreugerlet me see if I can upload the file to dropbox23:07
bekks!pastebin | kreuger23:07
ubottukreuger: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.23:07
RiskkkkkkOsuch_coins I don't have this option in mi win8 UEFI Firmware Settings23:07
kreugerIt's a different computer..423:07
kreuger-423:07
such_coinsRiskkkkkkO, it was worth a shot. Sorry I can't help you23:08
sianould anyone take a look at this: i have 3 mkv files which have been linked together. i'm running this command: ls | grep -i "links" | xargs -n 1 mkvinfo | grep -i "segment uid"; which grabs the names of the files (they contain "links" in their names) and runs mkvinfo on each one of them23:08
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siansorry, the gnome irc application was crashing so I don't know if my last message was delivere. Could anyone take a look at this: i have 3 mkv files which have been linked together. i'm running this command: ls | grep -i "links" | xargs -n 1 mkvinfo | grep -i "segment uid"; which grabs the names of the files (they contain "links" in their names) and runs mkvinfo on each one of them23:12
sianthat command gives me the desired output, the problem is that it bundles the output of every file(let's say that it merges them)so I don't know where 1 starts and where the other finishes, anyway to have some separation between them?23:13
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doomlord_does ubuntu work ok on the microsoft surface pro / surface pro 223:19
MonkeyDustdoomlord_  guess that company knows only the following three OS's: windows, windows and windows23:20
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MonkeyDustdoomlord_  i'm wrong: http://www.geek.com/microsoft/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-the-surface-pro-1539262/23:22
Jam311Hello23:22
Jam311Could somebody please help me with an internet problem I'm experiencing?23:23
DrManhattanJam311, I can try. What's up?23:24
sianhas no one worked with mkvinfo??23:24
kreugerbekks, so I can't even upload the file to dropbox due to permissions (I booted into a livecd to try and copy it to pastebin but there's no clipboard manager so it wont paste)23:24
Jam311I installed Ubuntu on my Dell Inspiron mini and when i try to connect to the internet it dosent detect anything.23:25
DrManhattanJam311, are you trying to connect via wired or wireless?23:25
Jam311Wireless23:25
jojo_Jam311: run lspci - what kind of wireless card does that say you have?23:26
DrManhattanJam311, is the wireless connection set up? IE, you have the proper module inserted, the proper wireless network set up, etc?23:26
Jam311My wireless connection is setup properly because the laptop I'm using to talk here is working fine.23:27
DrManhattanoh, you're actually ON the laptop. Ok  - what site are you trying to reach?23:27
hyprvxIf I have a 64-bit system, but it doesn't have UEFI firmware, can I safely install the x86 version without bad repurcussions?23:28
DrManhattanhyprvx, you SHOULD be able to, yes23:28
Jam311What do you mean what site am I trying to reach?23:28
hyprvxAny exceptions?23:28
hyprvxIt's a regular Intel Pentium23:29
bekkshyprvx: Install 64bit. You dont need UEFI for doing so.23:29
neriumI'm trying to install postgresql 9.3 in my ubuntu server, but I'm getting this error https://gist.github.com/oleander/f6992d9bcf0fc4a83edb can anyone see why?23:29
hyprvxI am using Wubi23:29
bekkshyprvx: ouch.23:29
jojo_Jam311, what is the problem if you are connected to the internet?23:30
jojo_you can't be talking to us if Ubuntu hasn't detected your wireless card, detected a wireless network, and connected to that network23:30
jojo_what isn't working?23:30
Jam311I have two laptops the one that I am talking to you on is working fine but the one with ubuntu can't connect.23:30
kreugerbekks, you still there?23:30
hyprvxI'm introducing my girlfriend to Ubuntu, and I don't want to throw her in with GRUB and all. just use Wubi and have a light, simple, small-footprint, easy-to-switch through environment23:30
jojo_okay, do you know if ubuntu has detected the card?23:31
hans__hi23:31
Jam311How do I check if it has?23:31
hans__some one online here23:31
jojo_run lspci from the terminal23:31
jojo_see if your wireless card turns up in the output results23:31
hans__cab some one help me23:32
hans__468: exec: /tmp/install.dir.9825/Linux/resource/jre/bin/java: not found23:32
hans__what must i do23:32
Jam311.23:32
jojo_Jam311: do you know what brand and make your wireless card is23:33
Jam311Ok I did that now what?23:33
kreugerIm AFk for a bit. Will return23:33
DrManhattanJam311, does the ubuntu laptop have functioning wireless?23:33
hans__see you23:33
xanguahans__: what were you trying to?23:33
hans__install a bin file23:33
jhutchinshans__: From where?23:33
hans__for my iomega NAS23:33
jojo_Jam311: copy the results of lspci and put them in pastebin23:33
jojo_then paste the pastebin link here23:34
jhutchinshans__: Sounds like the file doesn't have all of the parts it needs.23:34
jojo_also, run iwconfig - same thing, paste the results to pastebin and provide the link here23:34
Jam311I think its either Dell or Intel, And the laptop should have functioning wireless because it worked when I had windows installed.23:34
hans__i have download it from there site23:34
jhutchinshans__: You'll probably need to contact Iomega support.23:34
jojo_Jam311 - just because it worked with Windows doesn't mean there is a Linux driver for it23:34
hans__i will it tomorow23:34
hans__thx23:35
jojo_There is a linux driver for most wireless cards out there, but some cards are better supported than others23:35
Jam311How can I paste it in pastebin if the laptop dosent have internet?23:35
DrManhattanJam311, I meant is it functioning in Ubuntu - do you have it set up?23:35
jojo_DrManhattan, his Ubuntu box does not have internet23:36
Jam311The wireless is not functioning in ubuntu?23:36
Jam311*ubuntu.23:36
jojo_he's talkig to us on a different laptop23:36
Jam311ya23:36
DrManhattanjojo_, I understood he's talking to us on a different laptop, but i was just trying to clarify the situation with the other laptop23:36
jojo_right - wireless is not working for him on the other laptop23:37
DrManhattanOk23:37
jojo_which is why he can't paste to pastebin for us23:37
DrManhattandoes he have the gui fired up?23:37
jojo_Jam311, first we need to determine what the exact make and model of your wireless card is23:38
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jojo_the lspci results should have that in there, you will just have to browse through there until you see something that say something like 802.11a/b/g or something similar in the line23:38
Jam311Ok would that be the network controller?23:38
jojo_something to indicate it's a wireless card23:38
jojo_yes23:38
jojo_wireless would hook into the network controller23:39
jojo_but it would not say ethernet23:39
jojo_ethernet would be your landline connection23:39
Jam311Ok its Broadcom Corporation BCM431223:39
jojo_oh damn23:39
jojo_that's the same card I have23:40
jojo_hahaha23:40
Jam311lol23:40
jojo_I haven't gotten my wireless working yet23:40
jojo_buut23:40
jojo_I can get you closer23:40
jojo_Jam311 http://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/how-to-install-broadcom-wireless-drivers-bcm43xx23:40
Jam311What do you mean?23:40
jojo_look at that link23:40
jojo_from what I understand, the steps in that discussion have gotten other people with similar Broadcom 43XX cards up and running on ubuntu23:41
Jam311ok I'll try that23:42
jojo_you will need to uninstall the broadcom-sta driver and the bcmwl-kernel-source before installing the 43xx drivers23:42
Jam311Ok23:42
jojo_let me know if you get that working, haha23:43
jojo_I have my mac mini that is running PeppermintOS  (based on Lubuntu) hooked into an ethernet connection right now because I'm tired of setting up the OS23:43
jojo_that link is my project for tomorrow after work23:44
Jam311it told me Unable to late package bcmwl-kernel-source23:44
jojo_do you have synaptic installed?23:44
Jam311What's that?23:45
jojo_system tools -> synaptic package maneger23:45
jojo_open that up (you will have to give it your password)23:45
jojo_and then search for 'bcm'23:45
jojo_it should produce a list that contains the broadcom drivers available for installation and also some extraneous results we don't care about23:46
jojo_if any of them are installed, it will indicate so23:46
jojo_the ones you are interested in are bcmwl-kernel-source and the other one is something along the lines of broadcom-sta or something23:47
jojo_if they aren't checked as installed, then you don't have them23:47
Jam311I can't find skynaptics package manager, if it didn't come with ubuntu I probably don't have it.23:47
jojo_which is fine, that means you can just follow the instructions on the forum to get the 43xx drivers installed23:48
Jam311Ok23:48
jojo_open up a terminal and type 'synaptic &' without the quotes23:48
jojo_rrr23:48
jojo_you will need 'sudo synaptic &'23:49
Jam311It says Package 'synaptic' has no s=installation candidate23:50
jojo_hmm, okay, I guess it wasn't installed23:50
jojo_I thought that was shipped with Ubuntu23:50
zykotick9!gksudo | jojo_ don't use sudo with GUI apps, it's important23:51
ubottujojo_ don't use sudo with GUI apps, it's important: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)23:51
jojo_noted23:51
jojo_Jam311, you could try to use dpkg or apt to detect if they are installed23:52
jojo_google can probably help with that, but I don't know those commands off the top of my head23:53
Jam311ok23:53
jojo_I invite a more experienced Ubuntu user to step in and help Jam311 - I have to focus on learning javascript for the next couple of hours23:54
harushimoquestion, I'm trying to setup my kvm...what is the best software for it23:55
zykotick9"dpkg -l | grep synaptic" <- i don't think it's installed in ubuntu by default anymore.  jojo_ Jam31123:55
zykotick9harushimo: kvm the virtualization software?  i use straight kvm from command line, but most "normal" people use virt-manager.23:56
harushimohow to do straight kvm from the command line23:57
harushimoIs it software ubuntu-vm-builder?23:57
harushimoor qemu23:57
zykotick9harushimo: are you SURE that your cpu supports virtualization?23:57
harushimooh yeah23:57
zykotick9ok, just checkin'23:57
harushimoI just built this new computer 2 mons ago23:58
PaytonHello, during the ubuntu installation it does not give me the option to install alongside windows, any help?23:58
PaytonWindows 8*23:58
harushimozykotick9: how do I setup a kvm through the command line23:59
zykotick9harushimo: i've never used ubuntu-vm-builder, so wouldn't know.  if you want a frontend, i'd suggest virt-manager gui - alternatively start reading about kvm usage.23:59
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