[00:01] <helpmeplease2> do I have to enable network inorder to get a repo?
[00:01] <helpmeplease2> fgrom the recovery mode
[00:01] <daftykins> helpmeplease2: yes repositories are online
[00:01] <greylurk> Yes, unless it's a repo on your CD-ROM.
[00:02] <helpmeplease2> how do I get back to recovery from network?
[00:02] <Jumpie> anybody
[00:03] <bekks> !amd | Jumpie
[00:03] <bekks> hmm.
[00:04] <kostkon> !fglrx
[00:05] <SrRaven> so how would I access ubuntu via ssh ?
[00:05] <helpmeplease2> how do you connect to a network in the terminal
[00:05] <SrRaven> it wont let me do it via ssh on standard port
[00:06]  * Nicekiwi hates Ubuntu #segmentationFaultBalls
[00:06] <Jumpie> im following that kostkon
[00:06] <Jumpie> my point is fglrx is not found/recognized
[00:06] <Jumpie> i even added another repo, no dice
[00:07] <atma111> I have a problem restart squid3: "start: job failed to start"
[00:07] <bekks> atma111: Did you change the config of squid3?
[00:08] <Nicekiwi> helpmeplease2, which network?
[00:08] <helpmeplease2> I dont know, when I tried to install the drivers it says I was not connected
[00:09] <Jumpie> also, why the hell is the linux catalyst beta drivers on ati's website in a ZIP format?
[00:09] <bekks> Jumpie: Ask AMD. :)
[00:09] <bekks> Err, ATI.
[00:09] <Jumpie> well i still cant seem to get fglrx
[00:10] <Jumpie> unable to locate package
[00:10] <SrRaven> yeah it wont let me log in and I have no idea how to boot with normal graphics and not the nvidia ones
[00:12] <jhutchins> SrRaven: Single user or rescue mode.
[00:12] <SrRaven> I tried rescue mode
[00:12] <kostkon> Jumpie, ok
[00:12] <helpmeplease2> nicekiki, when I tried the first command it says cannot access PPA
[00:13] <helpmeplease2> nicekiwi*
[00:14] <Nicekiwi> helpmeplease2, are you running over wifi or ethernet?
[00:14] <helpmeplease2> wifi
[00:14]  * Nicekiwi facepalm
[00:14] <Nicekiwi> helpmeplease2, can you connect with ethernet
[00:14] <jjavaholic> how would you add image metadata en-mass?
[00:14] <helpmeplease2> Would that fix it?
[00:14] <bekks> jjavaholic: Depends on the metadata and where to add it.
[00:15] <Nicekiwi> helpmeplease2, it should connect automatticly under ideal conditions in that case
[00:15] <jjavaholic> a who, what, when tag and tag value pairs
[00:15] <helpmeplease2> okay trying it with ethernet
[00:15] <bekks> jjavaholic: Where and how is that metadata stored?
[00:15] <SrRaven> when I do the failsafe graphics mode I always get stuck at "mountall : fsck /boot/efi [708] terminated with status 1+
[00:16] <jjavaholic> jpegs
[00:16] <jjavaholic> exif I think
[00:17] <LuckyWilly> Howdy all, curious if anyone could figure this out. I believe Ubuntu deleted my Downloads folder and I had contents within it. Though I am trying to see how I can recover the previous Downloads folder as it made a new one automatically with nothing inside it.
[00:17] <DannyButterman> Please someone, how can I revert a driver to a previous working version ? I need working nvidia-304 drivers... please
[00:18] <eoo> use synaptic
[00:19] <bekks> DannyButterman: Reinstall it.
[00:19] <jjavaholic> is that what you meant how and where the metadata was stored
[00:19] <Jumpie> can seombody PLEASE help me with installing catalyst drivers
[00:19] <jjavaholic> manual entry
[00:19] <jhutchins> jjavaholic: I think imagemagic might be able to batch that.
[00:19] <bekks> jjavaholic: If the metadata is already stored in the pictures -what do you want to edit?
[00:19] <friedl_> fglrx
[00:20] <Jumpie> i cant install or find fglrx
[00:20] <Jumpie> says not found
[00:20] <Jumpie> even following doc exactly
[00:20] <friedl_> AMD
[00:20] <Jumpie> i have a pet peeve of docs that dont follow correctly
[00:21] <DannyButterman> bekks : I've reinstalled it three or for times so far
[00:21] <Jumpie> and when i get the zip file from amd's site...its 40k if i wget it...but if i do it on my windows desktop its 153mb
[00:21] <Jumpie> something is wrong
[00:21] <jjavaholic> I want to add who, what, when tags and manually enter the who, what and when for the photo
[00:21] <Jumpie> you guys are useless ..bye
[00:22] <daftykins> can't please everyone (:
[00:22] <friedl_> useless yourself ...
[00:22] <jjavaholic> I would be fine with en mass creating initially empty who, what, when tags to begin with
[00:22] <eoo> daftykins:whats up
[00:22] <jjavaholic> did you mean imagemagik?
[00:23] <daftykins> eoo: see above.
[00:23] <eoo> daftykins: i cant
[00:25] <daftykins> eoo: just the ragequitting help-ee, nevermind.
[00:25] <bekks> jjavaholic: exiftool will do that job, it is scriptable.
[00:26] <jjavaholic> could you point me in the direction of a good source for it's usefulness?
[00:28] <bekks> jjavaholic: exiftools provide cli utilities for exif manipulation.
[00:30] <quinn_> alright can someone help me with a sound issue I have been having?
[00:31] <bekks> quinn_: just ask... :)
[00:32] <quinn_> well I just upgraded to 13.10 and I don't think my sound card is being recognized
[00:33] <quinn_> When I go into sound settings all I have is the "Dummy Output" option
[00:35] <recon_lap> is the ubuntu phone any good? is there a channel for it?
[00:35] <kostkon> !touch | recon_lap
[00:36] <tuthat> recon_lap depends on what you want
[00:36] <tuthat> and how you define good
[00:36] <uBUXUBu> quinn; i hate that when that happens...
[00:36] <quinn_> Do you guys think you can help?
[00:36] <uBUXUBu> updates may take care of it quinn
[00:37] <quinn_> Alright I'll check to see if any updates are availible
[00:37] <uBUXUBu> how long ago did u do the update quinn?
[00:37] <zykotick9> quinn_: do you see your card listed in "cat /proc/asound/cards"?
[00:37] <recon_lap> well, not really to sure what good means for me either :) thx for pointing me to the right channel , I'll show my ignorance off there :)
[00:38] <karab44> hello
[00:38] <quinn_> zykotick9: No there are no soundcards listed there
[00:38] <karab44> How to focus all shortkeys on app?
[00:39] <zykotick9> quinn_: not a good sign.  means alsa/kernel isn't seeing your sound card?  i have no idea, good luck!
[00:39] <karab44> I mean ubuntu forces it's shortkeys but I want focused app to have priority to use them.
[00:39] <uBUXUBu> i wont upgrade off 1204 until they force me
[00:39] <quinn_> That's exactly what I was using this morning and there were no issues!
[00:39] <bekks> uBUXUBu: In 2017 :)
[00:39] <quinn_> I am regretting the upgrade
[00:40] <uBUXUBu> do u have your stuff backed up quinn_?
[00:40] <quinn_> Yep m files are backed up
[00:40] <Beldar> quinn_, any earlier kernels in the grub menu?
[00:40] <uBUXUBu> well ill be t u know what to do now hehe
[00:41] <quinn_> Beldar: how would I go about checking that?
[00:41] <uBUXUBu> they are on the boot screen
[00:42] <Beldar> quinn_, If you are not see grub hold down the shift just after you [power on and use the arrow up and down to navigate the grub menu.
[00:42] <karab44> I want to use shortkeys in my app but instead of that Ubuntu does some magic. How to inactivate system shortkeys on particular app?
[00:44] <Beldar> quinn_, You canm look in the boot file for kernels as well with out a reboot.
[00:46] <uBUXUBu> they always nail the lts and then biff the lil short timers....
[00:46] <teebsz> How do you automate Ubuntu Installs completely. Any good Kickstart/ubuntu.seed tutorials?
[00:47] <teebsz> >.>
[00:47] <quinn_> beldar: alright so what should these kernels look like in boot/grub/ ?
[00:47] <bekks> teebsz: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html
[00:48] <teebsz> hmm love the Official Docs
[00:48] <bekks> teebsz: I found it as the first result ;)
[00:48] <Beldar> quinn_ initrd.img with different kernel versions
[00:48] <teebsz> Well I've been using that already
[00:49] <teebsz> That and several other sources from various blogs.
[00:49] <Beldar> quinn_, not in boot/grub just boot
[00:50] <quinn_> Oh I see there are plenty of files with initrd.img
[00:50] <quinn_> should I paste?
[00:51] <Beldar> quinn_, Just a easy check if you have more than one set is all, they should be in the grub menu run a sudo update-grub before rebooting to try any for sound.
[00:53] <quinn_> Beldar: alrigh I just updated Grub should I go in for a rebbot?
[00:54] <recon_lap> hmm, found a article called rip-ubuntu-edge , guess that answers my question :)
[00:54] <Beldar> quinn_, So you understand that we are just trying different kernels sets that will be in the grub menu to see if you do get any sound. And how to get there?
[00:55] <quinn_> Beldar: yes I get what I am trying to do here I will go ahead and do it now
[00:56] <Beldar> cool
[00:56] <quinn_> so you said just hold shift on the boot screen to open Grub?
[00:57] <Beldar> quinn_, hold down the shift within a second of hitting the power button, the bios flash is generally where you see key prompts for the per-seesion boot or the bios.
[00:57] <Beldar> not after the bios flash
[00:58] <quinn_> Okay I'll see what i can do I'll probably be back in a little bit to see if it worked
[00:59] <Beldar> quinn_, This is not a fix just a check, sounds are not really my area of knowledge.
[01:00] <UserError> Does anyone know if anyone releases linktimeoptimized, sandybridge+ optimized/removal x86_64 ubuntu kernels?
[01:05] <Guest50470> vlad_starkov, ты можешь показать как на русский канал поддержки попасть?
[01:06] <compdoc> english
[01:06] <Guest50470> что инглишь
[01:06] <recon_lap> rus?
[01:06] <Guest50470> yes, rus please
[01:06] <compdoc> vlad_starkov has left, in any case
[01:07] <Beldar> !ru | Guest50470
[01:07] <Guest50470> дело в том что оно не входит  в тот канал, понимаете?
[01:07] <Guest50470>  /join #ubuntu-ru
[01:07] <Guest50470> ??
[01:08] <Guest50470> dd
[01:08] <recon_lap> no space
[01:08] <recon_lap> Guest50470: "/join #ubuntu-ru" not " /join #ubuntu-ru"
[01:09] <moomoocowcow> Where does Ubuntu store user installed fonts? I've looked in all the locations defined in /etc/fonts/fonts.conf and I can't find the ones I installed myself (and this includes ~/.fonts)
[01:10] <Guest50470> Я ТАМ САМ
[01:10] <Guest50470> (.
[01:10] <Guest50470> ubottu, этого канала не существует, спасибо :(
[01:12] <windowslover556> guys
[01:12] <windowslover556> do you even uid0
[01:12] <windowslover556> iis > apache
[01:13] <moomoocowcow> Seriously, it's mental. I can't uninstall a font as I can't find the font file, and neither can font-manager.
[01:13] <windowslover556> in which case, use a real OS like Windows
[01:14] <recon_lap> windowslover556: learn how to use a computer :P
[01:14] <xangua> moondoggy: how about usr/share/fonts ?
[01:14] <moomoocowcow> xangua: no, not in usr/share/fonts nor in /usr/local/share/fonts nor in ~/.fonts
[01:14] <moomoocowcow> xangua: the system ones are there, but not the user installed onems
[01:15] <Guest50470> ясно, мне просто стоит писать по-английски.
[01:15] <windowslover556> I do, Windows 8 has totally revolutionised the way I use my computer (read: idiotically)
[01:15] <compdoc> I never could read that well
[01:15] <Guest50470> please driver graphics video intel
[01:16] <windowslover556> please english words no russia
[01:16] <Guest50470> ouu
[01:16] <compdoc> Im oretty sure that was english
[01:16] <compdoc> *pretty
[01:17] <windowslover556> brb, going to toss myself off over my new start button
[01:22] <moomoocowcow> found the stupid fonts: ~/.local/share/fonts
[01:22] <moomoocowcow> i should submit a bug report for fontmanager or something
[01:23] <ezio> why can't i mount a fat usb
[01:25] <ezio> why can't i mount vfat
[01:25] <Sander^lap> uit
[01:25] <ezio> i don't have mount.vfat
[01:26] <Gerowen> What would be a reasonable budget graphics card for use in some moderate gaming (games like Portal) for Ubuntu 13.10?  Since the newer version of X11 was added in I believe Ubuntu 12.10, my ATI Radeon HD 4200 is no longer supported by the proprietary drivers from ATI for the newer version of X11, and the open source drivers just aren't cutting it.  Portal at 640x480 with all settings on low gives me about 20 fps with the open so
[01:26] <Gerowen> urce drivers.
[01:26] <d3bug> anyone have any idea why mount.ntfs would be running even with no ntfs volumes present?  (13.10)
[01:31] <d3bug> wow, soo many people talking at once...
[01:35] <tcas1> quit
[01:35] <tcas1> exit
[01:37] <siwica> When watching video on Youtube on fullscreen, switching workspace and switching back to the original workspace it is not on full screen any more. How do I make it to stay on fullscreen?
[01:37] <jswagner> siwica: i think that is a flash limitation, because it happens to me on other DEs
[01:41] <siwica> jswagner: ok, maybe
[01:45] <wllhck> ola tem alguem que fala portugues aqui
[01:45] <wllhck> ?
[01:46] <xangua> !pt | wllhck
[01:49] <Kalel> Greetings. I need the moodin plugin. Is there a way to get it?
[01:51] <xangua> !find moodin
[01:51] <jeffrey_f> @jeffrey_f
[01:52] <Akarin-desu> I have an issue with install Ubuntu.
[01:52] <Akarin-desu> It keeps rebooting before it even get to the installation.
[01:54] <Beldar> !md5sum | Akarin-desu
[01:54] <Akarin-desu> The ISO is fine.
[01:55] <Beldar> Akarin-desu, Than give some details
[01:55] <Akarin-desu> It's consistant no matter what OS I try to install.
[01:55] <Akarin-desu> I've tried it in Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Debian. Even W7/8
[01:55] <atma111> pls need help squid3 error http://paste.ubuntu.com/6614765/
[01:55] <Akarin-desu> I tried changing the installation media from a flash drive to a physical Disk, with the same results.
[01:55] <Akarin-desu> I changed the AHCI and EFI settings in BIOs, and doesn't work.
[01:56] <Akarin-desu> I've reflashed the BIOS. This doesn't work.
[01:56] <Akarin-desu> I've reapplied thermal paste to the processor. That didn't work.
[01:56] <Akarin-desu> I formatted the drive using KillDisk with 2 passes. That didn't work.
[01:56] <Akarin-desu> I've tested the RAM and HDD using Hiren's. They're fine.
[01:56] <Akarin-desu> I swapped out the HDD from my primary laptop to the one that I'm working on. It boots just fine, but blue screens and reboots in a couple of minutes, probably due to driver issues.
[01:56] <Beldar> Akarin-desu, YOu make a partitio table?
[01:56] <Akarin-desu> It's stable in a Live Boot environment, such as Hiren's and KillDisk, it even stayed on overnight as it was formatted the drive and performing diagnostics work.
[01:56] <spjt> Has anyone bought that laptop off ubuntu.com?
[01:57] <Akarin-desu> I let the OS handle the partition tables. It was a freshly formatted drive.
[01:57] <Akarin-desu> I've Googled and Googled and Googled the issue, and all of them swear up and down that it's either a memory issue, or an issue with the power supply.
[01:57] <Akarin-desu> The battery seems to be fine, it holds and charge, but I don't know how to test it in a Live Boot.
[01:57] <Akarin-desu> I disassembled the entire laptop and looked for brown spots on the mobo. I found on by the Wifi on/off toggle, but I scraped it off, and it looked fine afterwards.
[01:57] <Beldar> Akarin-desu, You have to make a table.
[01:58] <Akarin-desu> I've formatted it in Hiren's afterthe format to NTFS or ext3 when I try to install Windows or Ubuntu, respectively.
[01:59] <dougl> so is my iphone ever gonna work with ubuntu - I keep reading/experiencing conflicting information?
[02:00] <Beldar> Akarin-desu, hirens is not needed, we can only assume its done it correctly all the stock install OS's have partition building.
[02:01] <Akarin-desu> But why wouldn't it work regardless of what OS I'm installing? I know that Windows can format it's own partition table just fine. I know that Ubuntu can as well. I tried it once in Hiren's just to see fi that was the issue.
[02:01] <Beldar> Akarin-desu, This a uefi computer?
[02:02] <Akarin-desu> Yes, but it can change modes to BIOS if needed.
[02:02] <xangua> dougl: if by work you mean mount, since ubuntu 10.04 is supported but then apple releases an update that makes their devices even more harder to use without apple software and the history goes on and repeats since every new ubuntu/ios release
[02:03] <dougl> xangua, as I suspected... thank you for your time :)
[02:03] <psusi> Akarin-desu, sounds like it is overheating
[02:04] <Beldar> Akarin-desu, Sure however if you had a gpt partition table, and now have a msdos, there may be remnants of that gpt that cause trouble.
[02:04] <dougl> xangua, is not a big deal to use the mac atleast I don't have to resort to windows.
[02:04] <Akarin-desu> I thought so too, but I reapplied thermal paste and cleaned out the fan to the exhaust.
[02:04] <psusi> Akarin-desu, on the livecd, try installing lm-sensors and running the sensors command, see if you get a temperature reading
[02:04] <Akarin-desu> I can't even get to a shell.
[02:04] <Beldar> Akarin-desu, There is an app that will run a script to show thoughs.
[02:05] <Akarin-desu> If I try to move past the splash screen, then it reboots.
[02:05] <Guest29875> can someone repeat my name?
[02:05] <psusi> Akarin-desu, try running the memtest?
[02:05] <Beldar> we see you
[02:05] <Akarin-desu> Yeah, memtest shows no errors.
[02:05] <psusi> Akarin-desu, how long did you let it run for?
[02:05] <Akarin-desu> the HDD test said the drive is fine.
[02:05] <Akarin-desu> psusi: 1 pass.
[02:06] <psusi> Akarin-desu, let it run for at least half an hour
[02:06] <Akarin-desu> It takes 40 minues to a single pass.
[02:06] <psusi> ahh, ok
[02:06] <Guest29875> Akarin-desu, your harddrive gona unexpectly
[02:06] <Guest29875> Akarin-desu, your harddrive gona unexpectly i just gave you your only warning
[02:06] <Akarin-desu> ?
[02:07] <psusi> Guest29875, that didn't make sense
[02:07] <psusi> Akarin-desu, so the memtest and check cd boot options work, but wen you try to just run the live system, it hard reboots before you get a desktop?
[02:08] <qwerty> halp!
[02:08] <Akarin-desu> I can run a live system fine. Hiren's runs just fine, it even stayed on all night while it was formatting.
[02:09] <Akarin-desu> KillDisk successfully formatted the entire drive twice.
[02:09] <psusi> Akarin-desu, I mean the Ubuntu live session
[02:09] <Akarin-desu> Oh, I can't get into a live session. I can't get past the initial splahs screen.
[02:09] <psusi> i.e. the "Try Ubuntu" boot option, not Install
[02:10] <Guest13463> question, if I only gave my system reserve 100mb and now need that space to be larger, is there anything i can do that is easier than just reformatting and reinstalling ubuntu?
[02:10] <psusi> Guest13463, what do you mean "system reserve"?
[02:10] <Beldar> Guest13463, live cd use gparted
[02:11] <Guest13463> that will let me extend the drive?
[02:11] <psusi> Guest13463, you mean the EFI system partition?  it only holds a single < 1 MiB file... you won't run out of space
[02:12] <Guest13463> i keep getting errors that I can't update or install anything because of disc space
[02:12] <psusi> Guest13463, then you don't have enough disk space?
[02:12] <Guest13463> shouldn't be that. I gave ubuntu drive 65 gb
[02:13] <Akarin-desu> Nobody has any idea?
[02:13] <Guest13463> only has os installed on it
[02:14] <Guest13463> but i noticed while booting into windows that there is a system reserve partition that only has 100mb
[02:14] <psusi> Guest13463, go to a terminal and type sudo apt-get install pastebinit, and then df | pastebinit, and paste the link it gives you here
[02:14] <Guest13463> ok, ill have go boot into ubuntu brb
[02:21] <wessssssssss> hi, im the guy that was having trouble with disc spae
[02:21] <wessssssssss> space
[02:22] <wessssssssss> someone told me to enter something into a terminal
[02:22] <wessssssssss> anyone remember?
[02:22] <Beldar> wessssssssss, <psusi> Guest13463, go to a terminal and type sudo apt-get install pastebinit, and then df | pastebinit, and paste the link it gives you here
[02:25] <atma111> pls help squid3 error http://paste.ubuntu.com/6614890/
[02:25] <Guest29875> Guest13463, YOU DO NOT WANT TO TOUCH THE RECOVERY PARTITION OR YOUR ENTIRE PC IS RUINED!
[02:25] <Guest29875> Guest13463, YOU DO NOT WANT TO TOUCH THE RECOVERY PARTITION OR YOUR ENTIRE PC IS RUINED!
[02:26] <psusi> wessssssssss, if you can't install pastebinit, then you can skip that and just run df and copy/paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[02:26] <psusi> pastebinit just lets you skip the copy/paste step and the need for a web browser
[02:27] <atma111> pls help squid3 error http://paste.ubuntu.com/6614890/
[02:27] <wessssssssss> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6614894/
[02:29] <psusi> wessssssssss, you have installed Ubuntu using Wubi instead of a "real" install, and only given Ubuntu 5.4 GB of space, which is below the minimum
[02:29] <wessssssssss> that sounds bad
[02:29] <psusi> wessssssssss, run sudo parted -l and pastebin that
[02:30] <wessssssssss> how do i pastebin again?
[02:32] <wessssssssss> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6614921/
[02:33] <wessssssssss> not sure i did that right
[02:34] <emc2> is there a native remote client in ubuntu?
[02:34] <wessssssssss> i was supposed to pastebin the output from the parted command, did it work?
[02:36] <wessssssssss> Model: ATA ST9500424AS (scsi)
[02:36] <wessssssssss> Disk /dev/sda: 500GB
[02:36] <wessssssssss> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B
[02:36] <wessssssssss> Partition Table: msdos
[02:36] <wessssssssss> Number  Start   End     Size    Type      File system  Flags
[02:36] <wessssssssss>  1      1049kB  9413MB  9412MB  primary   ntfs         diag
[02:36] <FloodBot1> wessssssssss: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:38] <wessssssssss> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6614941/
[02:38] <wessssssssss> ok i think that worked
[02:38] <wessssssssss> thats the output from the parted thing you told me to run
[02:39] <psusi> wessssssssss, yep.. you installed with wubi in a small file instead of doing a real install to its own partition.. all you have are windows partitions
[02:40] <wessssssssss> is there a fix?
[02:40] <average> wessssssssss: hey
[02:40] <psusi> wessssssssss, yea... uninstall it in the Windows add/remove programs, then reinstall it properly
[02:40] <wessssssssss> using a boot disc?
[02:40] <psusi> wessssssssss, yep
[02:41] <wessssssssss> ok
[02:41] <average> wessssssssss: hello ?
[02:41] <wessssssssss> average, yes?
[02:41] <average> wessssssssss: what problem are you having ?
[02:41] <wessssssssss> I can't update or install anything
[02:42] <psusi> average, he has a too small wubi install
[02:42] <wessssssssss> my wubi is too small
[02:42] <average> wessssssssss: why are you using wubi ?
[02:42] <wessssssssss> i was dual booting, looking for an easy way to install
[02:42] <average> wessssssssss: don't you have any free usb disk ?
[02:42] <average> usb stick I mean
[02:42] <jswagner> that's not a question that needs to be answered
[02:43] <wessssssssss> i think i do somewhere
[02:43] <wessssssssss> im new to ubuntu, i guess it was a noob mistake
[02:44] <wessssssssss> windows installation is messed up so i installed ubuntu
[02:44] <wessssssssss> now thats messed up too
[02:44] <average> wessssssssss: I would use usb-creator-gtk or unetbootin to make a usb install stick for ubuntu
[02:44] <average> wessssssssss: how about that ?
[02:44] <average> wessssssssss: you wanna try that ?
[02:44] <wessssssssss> sure
[02:44] <wessssssssss> sounds harsd
[02:44] <wessssssssss> hard
[02:45] <average> wessssssssss: nowai, it's easy
[02:45] <wessssssssss> do i have to format the usb stick?
[02:45] <average> wessssssssss: sure, you can do that with gparted, make a big partition on it like ext4 or ext3
[02:45] <wessssssssss> ok
[02:45] <average> wessssssssss: whatever you do, make sure it's /dev/<whatever_the_usb_device_is> and not your hdd
[02:46] <average> wessssssssss: so be careful only on that side. if you're careful everything should go smooth and you should be up & running soon
[02:47] <Terry_Warrior> :-S
[02:47] <wessssssssss> ok i  have the usb drive and started up gparted
[02:48] <average> do the following
[02:48] <average> ls /dev/sd*
[02:48] <Kalel> I'm thinking about install linux deepin.
[02:48] <Kalel> !deepin
[02:48] <Kalel> !linux-deepin
[02:48] <average> wessssssssss: that will tell you the devices you have over there, /dev/sda is hdd for me , so it's my disk right ?
[02:48] <average> wessssssssss: you should have  /dev/sdb as the usb stick, or /dev/sdc
[02:48] <average> wessssssssss: or something like that
[02:49] <Kalel> ubottu doesn't know anything about deepin..
[02:49] <average> wessssssssss: after you figure out which is the usb stick do      gparted /dev/sdb  (if sdb is the stick)
[02:49] <Kalel> I know, I know...
[02:49] <average> wessssssssss: otherwise, you can just select the device in gparted in upper right corner
[02:49] <wessssssssss> i think ill just back up the stick to external drive
[02:49] <average> wessssssssss: ok
[02:51] <Terry_Warrior> Kalel:  why do you want to use deepin
[02:51] <Terry_Warrior> why not try UbuntuKilin
[02:51] <karab44> good night
[02:52] <Kalel> Terry_Warrior: I like it,
[02:52] <Kalel> Terry_Warrior: Look as a beuty o.s.
[02:52] <wessssssssss> ok i have a 4gb usb stick,  what should i tell gparted to do?
[02:53] <average> wessssssssss: delete everything on your 4gb usb stick with gparted, like all partitions on there
[02:53] <average> wessssssssss: then create one single ext4 or ext3 partition on that disk right ?
[02:53] <average> wessssssssss: then apply
[02:53] <average> wessssssssss: then you're ready to use usb-creator-gtk or unetbootin
[02:54] <average> wessssssssss: one of those two ^^ will download a ubuntu .iso (image) and it will write it to your usb stick, then you're ready to reboot and boot from the usb stick and start the ubuntu install
[02:56] <wessssssssss> ok, so i type something into a terminal to get usb-creator-gtk?
[02:56] <average> wessssssssss: yes sir
[02:57] <average> wessssssssss: can you use unetbootin instead ? it will download the .iso for you
[02:57] <wessssssssss> sudo apt-get unetbootin?
[02:57] <average> wessssssssss: yes
[02:57] <wessssssssss> ok
[02:57] <wessssssssss> lemme give it a try
[02:57] <TheHighestFive> hey guys I'm running ubuntu 12.04 and having a problem downloading out of firefox. It tells me to select an application to use to download said file, but doesn't give me any options. It sends allows me to search through my pictures, downloads, documents etc. I thought (since it worked through Chromium) maybe it was just an issue with Transmission. So I got Deluge and it still won't let me select any bittorrent client. anyone have
[02:57] <TheHighestFive>  this issue before? any idea how to fix it?
[02:58] <Beldar> average, all the ubuntu unetbootin downloads are eol
[02:58] <average> Beldar: it has 12.04 LTS in the list, so they are not eol
[02:58] <Beldar> good if that is so
[02:58] <wessssssssss> can you give me the syntax,
[02:58] <wessssssssss> i got an error
[02:59] <average> wessssssssss: what error did you get ?
[02:59] <wessssssssss> invalid operation unetbootin
[02:59] <average> wessssssssss: sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[02:59] <wessssssssss> ooook
[02:59] <wessssssssss> gotit
[02:59] <average> great, so you have it installed right ?
[03:00] <average> did you plug your usb stick in ? what does     ls /dev/sd*  say ?
[03:00] <wessssssssss> still installing unetbootin
[03:00] <average> I see, ok
[03:00] <wessssssssss> ok it is installed, how do i run it?
[03:01] <average> TheHighestFive: presss ALT+F2 , that will open up sort of like Start=>Run on Windows, now write gnome-terminal in there, you'll be able to get a terminal. Now do   sudo apt-get install firefox , that will get you firefox installed on your system
[03:01] <average> wessssssssss: first let's mount your usb stick ok ?
[03:01] <average> wessssssssss: ls /dev/sd*
[03:01] <average> wessssssssss: what does that say ?
[03:01] <TheHighestFive> average: I have firefox.
[03:02] <TheHighestFive> It's downloading other files from other websites I'm having a problem with. The bittorrent clients aren't launching.
[03:02] <wessssssssss> gives me a bunch of what i guess are drives
[03:02] <average> wessssssssss: can you list those for me please ?
[03:03] <wessssssssss> sda sda1-sda6
[03:03] <average> wessssssssss: are those all ?
[03:03] <wessssssssss> sdb
[03:03] <average> ok
[03:03] <wessssssssss> sdb1
[03:03] <average> cool
[03:03] <Kalel> wessssssssss
[03:03] <wessssssssss> sdc
[03:03] <average> so sdb is your usb stick device ok ? and sdb1 is the only partition on your usb stick
[03:03] <wessssssssss> sdd
[03:03] <average> ooooh ?!
[03:03] <average> you have mooore drives
[03:03] <wessssssssss> sde
[03:04] <wessssssssss> sdf
[03:04] <average> really ? all those ?
[03:04] <wessssssssss> sdg
[03:04] <wessssssssss> sdg1
[03:04] <FloodBot1> wessssssssss: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:04] <average> you have so many disks
[03:04] <wessssssssss> i know
[03:04] <average> damnit, now we have to figure out which one of'em is your usb
[03:04] <wessssssssss> stick is sdg
[03:04] <average> are you sure ?
[03:04] <average> you should be right
[03:04] <wessssssssss> thats what it says in gparted
[03:04] <average> ok great
[03:04] <average> let's do      sudo mkdir /mnt/usb;
[03:04] <wessssssssss> wait
[03:05] <average> that will create a mountpoint for the usb stick
[03:05] <wessssssssss> looks like sdg is the drive
[03:05] <average> oh really ?
[03:05] <wessssssssss> and partition is sdg1
[03:05] <wessssssssss> does that make sense?
[03:05] <average> it makes sense
[03:05] <wessssssssss> ok
[03:05] <aslaen> Hello, I'm trying to setup cobbler. I've got it mostly working, but I need to get the gpg key for ubuntu 13.10. Where can I get that from?
[03:06] <average> wessssssssss: so did you create the mountpoint ?
[03:06] <average> aslaen: you can generate one yourself
[03:07] <wessssssssss> i entered what you wrote
[03:07] <aslaen> ok I'm getting this error. gpgv: keyblock resource `/var/lib/cobbler/.gnupg/trustedkeys.gpg': file open error
[03:07] <wessssssssss> didnt give feedback,
[03:07] <average> aslaen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto#Using_GnuPG_to_generate_a_key
[03:07] <wessssssssss> just another cursor
[03:07] <aslaen> looking
[03:07] <average> aslaen: generate yourself a gpg key and then put it where that thing expects to find it
[03:07] <average> wessssssssss: cool
[03:07] <aslaen> oh ok thanks.
[03:07] <average> wessssssssss: now let's mount sdg1       sudo mount /dev/sdg1 /mnt/usb
[03:08] <average> wessssssssss: now that you mounted your usb stick partition start unetbootin
[03:08] <aslaen> average: great thanks, I'll try that.
[03:08] <wessssssssss> mount point mnt usb does not exist
[03:09] <average> wessssssssss: ok, try again to create the mountpoint    sudo mkdir /mnt/usb ;
[03:09] <average> wessssssssss: do you have a /mnt/usb directory now   ?   ls  /mnt/usb  does that give any errors ?
[03:10] <wessssssssss> cannot create directory
[03:10] <wessssssssss> file exists
[03:10] <wessssssssss> mnt/usb
[03:11] <average> wessssssssss: ok, try   mkdir /tmp/usb ;  sudo mount /dev/sdg1 /tmp/usb ;   sudo unetbootin
[03:11] <average> that should work
[03:11] <average> wessssssssss: did it work ?
[03:12] <wessssssssss> i have the unetbootin dialogue
[03:12] <Kalel> Is there a webchat in Klingon. I do not understand english so much.
[03:13] <Kalel> ?
[03:13] <mssg> hi all- i just got on here, it may not be the channel i'm looking for, would it be ok to ask a very newbie q here..?
[03:13] <wessssssssss> i dont see 12.04 distribution
[03:15] <habs> Which Ubuntu version would roughly correspond with Debian Squeeze, in terms of package versions?
[03:15] <wessssssssss> which should i use?
[03:15] <average> wessssssssss: you should use 12.04 , hang on
[03:16] <average> wessssssssss: ok so download this ubuntu 12.04 LTS .iso   http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso
[03:18] <average> wessssssssss: after you got that downloaded, you can use it in unetbootin
[03:18] <wessssssssss> ok, 20 mintes left,
[03:18] <average> ok
[03:18] <wessssssssss> just click the radio button by diskimage
[03:18] <wessssssssss> ?
[03:19] <wessssssssss> point it to the iso
[03:19] <average> wessssssssss: exactly
[03:19] <wessssssssss> and that amd64 part wont be a problem putting it with an intel cpu ?
[03:20] <average> wessssssssss: what's the name of your CPU ?
[03:20] <wessssssssss> core i3
[03:20] <wessssssssss> intel
[03:20] <average> wessssssssss: for example my CPU is Intel® CoreTM i5-4570
[03:20] <guest830> habs: ubuntu freezes at a different time than debian, so there are not many versions in common, you can compare their tables at Distrowatch
[03:21] <average> wessssssssss: can you give me the full name of your CPU ?
[03:21] <average> wessssssssss: I want to find out if it's 32 or 64 bit
[03:21] <wessssssssss> Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU       M 330  @ 2.13GHz
[03:22] <average> wessssssssss: it's 64 bit, you're good
[03:22] <average> wessssssssss: that .iso will work
[03:22] <wessssssssss> ok
[03:30] <average> guest830: what problem do you have ?
[03:30] <average> guest830: ubuntu freezes for you ?
[03:30] <guest830> average: was a response for habs
[03:33] <lickalott> guest830, what client are you using (IRC)?
[03:34] <guest830> lickalott: webchat.freenode.net (qwebirc)
[03:34] <SetiAmon> how do i perm turn off dpms i have to xset -dpms every boot
[03:35] <average> SetiAmon: http://askubuntu.com/questions/61291/how-to-permanently-disable-monitor-power-saver-using-the-command-line
[03:35] <average> SetiAmon: the first answer is exactly what you need
[03:36] <impossible> hi how do i make the brightness control button work
[03:37] <lickalott> just wondering
[03:38] <lickalott> SetiAmon, just for future reference.  If you want to disable/run a process you can generate a script and place it in /etc/rc2.d.
[03:39] <lickalott> impossible: that's a really ambiguous question homey
[03:39] <lickalott> are you using a laptop (if so what model), or a desktop (if so what monitor).  What ver of ubuntu are you running?  What have you tried thus far?
[03:41] <nwp_> Dunno who needs to know, but NZ archive mirror is broken currently - missing new kdelibs5-data package, breaking upgrades for anyone with kde-runtime installed.
[03:41] <impossible> lickalott, laptop. Someguy here figured it out
[03:41] <impossible> i never got to askl how
[03:43] <average> impossible: you can control brightness in other ways
[03:43] <average> impossible: from a script. do you wanna know how ?
[03:43] <lickalott> are you talking FN button + blue brightness button?
[03:43] <average> lickalott: for example I have a script that does     echo 40 > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[03:43] <impossible> thx
[03:44] <average> lickalott: that's how I control the brightness on my laptopt. but you may have a different acpi_video0 , maybe you have acpi_video1
[03:44] <lickalott> i'm good.  i run server
[03:44] <average> ok
[03:44] <lickalott> this is impossibles issues
[03:44] <lickalott> *issue
[03:46] <lickalott> my only issue is that I need more harddrives.  Wanna hook a brutha up average?
[03:46] <wessssssssss> here goes nothing. wish me luck
[03:47] <average> wessssssssss: be careful what drive you tell unetbootin to write on
[03:47] <average> wessssssssss: it should be /dev/sdg
[03:47] <wessssssssss> i dont want it to write to my hard drive?
[03:47] <average> lickalott: you want me to recommend you some HDDs ?
[03:47] <average> wessssssssss: no, you want it to write to usb
[03:48] <lickalott> no, i want you to buy one and send it to me  :D
[03:48] <wessssssssss> oh, i already did that part
[03:48] <wessssssssss> getting ready to reboot
[03:48] <Pwnna> okay. i think there's a serious memory leak in X server
[03:48] <wessssssssss> and hopefully reinstall ubuntu
[03:48] <average> wessssssssss: ok, great
[03:48] <Pwnna> X is using 1GB of RAM
[03:48] <average> wessssssssss: can you boot from the usb ? did you change the boot order in BIOS ?
[03:49] <wessssssssss> ill have to do that after i log off
[03:49] <average> wessssssssss: ah, ok
[03:49] <wessssssssss> im on ubuntu now
[03:49] <average> wessssssssss: good luck, hopefuly see you soon
[03:49] <wessssssssss> thanks
[03:50] <average> lickalott: well, I have an old IDE cable 500G hdd around here that I'm not using..
[03:50] <average> lickalott: you want it ?
[03:51] <average> Pwnna: maybe upgrade to a more recent xserver-xorg package ?
[03:51] <average> Pwnna: or perhaps upgrade to a more recent ubuntu altogether
[03:51] <Pwnna> average: i think i have the most recent. how do i change again?
[03:51] <Pwnna> huh. thunderbird is using 1GB of RAM as well
[03:51] <average> Pwnna: you have the latest ? then switch back to a previous one maybe ?
[03:51] <lickalott> nah man...I'm just kidding.  thanks though!!
[03:51] <average> Pwnna: so thunderbird is the problem and not X ?!
[03:52] <Pwnna> how do i tell what version i have?
[03:52] <Pwnna> average: both are using 1GB of RAM each.
[03:52] <average> Pwnna: X -version
[03:52] <Pwnna> X -version                                                                                                                                                                                            (kvkit) *[master]
[03:52] <Pwnna> X.Org X Server 1.14.3
[03:52] <Pwnna> whoa. fail :3
[03:52] <average> Pwnna: thunderbird is a beast when it comes to memory
[03:52] <Pwnna> shouldn't be..
[03:52] <Pwnna> i have it running all day before and it uses about 200MB of RAM before..
[03:53] <Pwnna> xorg-server 2:1.14.3-3ubuntu2+gd~s (For technical support please see http://www.ubuntu.com/support)
[03:53] <average> Pwnna: if you want something more lightweight go for mutt (but beware, you will have to spend a lot of time configuring it)
[03:53] <Pwnna> yeah no. lol
[03:53] <Pwnna> X server is fine. but idk what's wrong
[03:53] <Pwnna> now. i'm using the OIBAF drivers.. so latest mesa and what not
[03:53] <average> Pwnna: also, another option is using sylpheed claws which(as opposed to mutt) has a GUI
[03:53] <Pwnna> but that is to get around a nasty bug with intel sandybridge graphics in Mesa 9.2.2
[03:53] <anon12> I have installed nvidia-current by running sudo apt-get install nvidia-current; from a terminal but, when I run: sudo modprobe nvidia_current; I get: FATAL: Module nvidia_current not found.
[03:53] <Pwnna> average: how do i track down what's leaking?
[03:53] <bf022> buenas..
[03:54] <average> Pwnna: you usually track down memory leaks using valgrind
[03:54] <Pwnna> yeah..
[03:54] <average> Pwnna: but it's something complicated and I'm not sure if you wanna go down that road...
[03:54] <Pwnna> running X in valgrind would be..
[03:54] <Pwnna> ...
[03:54] <average> Pwnna: you could do that if you really wanted to
[03:54] <Pwnna> i don't..
[03:54] <Pwnna> i was wondering if anyone has encountered the same thing?
[03:54] <average> Pwnna: you can open like a different X screen like this    valgrind X:2
[03:54] <Pwnna> how much RAM is x using for you?
[03:55] <average> Pwnna: but you'd have to have X compiled with debugging symbols to be able to track down the memory leak in X's code
[03:55] <Pwnna> exactly.
[03:55] <average> Pwnna: for me ? X takes 64MB RAM
[03:55] <Pwnna> average: Desktop env is?
[03:55] <average> yes
[03:56] <average> Pwnna: if you're worried about it, you can just get some more RAM DIMMs ..
[03:56] <Pwnna> average: i'm on 6GB. the problem is that X server's RAM usage is creeping out
[03:56] <Pwnna> creeping up*
[03:56] <average> Pwnna: or try different versions of Ubuntu running on LiveCDs for example and try to see how their X and thunderbird versions behave  (to make live usb sticks with different versions of ubuntu see usb-creator-gtk or unetbootin )
[03:57] <lickalott> maybe I missed something.  Pwnna what makes you think there is a memory leak?  and why the OS vs your DIMM's?
[03:57] <average> lickalott: because he checked the memory usage and he found out it was big ?
[03:57] <average> bfiller: hi
[03:58] <lickalott> I have read (forget where) that there is a new RAM management process similar to superfetch (winblows) in 13.10.  What ver are you running Pwnna
[03:58] <Pwnna> lickalott: X server is using 1GB of RAM.
[03:58] <lickalott> holy sh!t balls
[03:58] <Pwnna> that sounds abnormal..
[03:58] <Pwnna> lickalott: yeah.
[03:58] <Pwnna> exactly.
[03:58] <Pwnna> and it is creeping upwards.
[03:58] <lickalott> is this a new install?
[03:58] <Pwnna> no. and upgraded install from 13.04 to 13.10
[03:58] <Pwnna> pls don't tell me to reinstall. this is not winblows 3
[03:59] <Pwnna> :3*
[03:59] <lickalott> btw: average that was pretty cool of you to offer that hdd.
[03:59] <average> Pwnna: you can also limit the memory a process uses with ulimit ...
[03:59] <average> Pwnna: but if you put restrictions on it.. it might just crash so.. you might wanna be careful with that
[03:59] <Pwnna> yup
[03:59] <lickalott> what do you have running (3rd party apps)?
[04:00] <hkr> Can I get a good task manager for ubuntu ? ps doesn't seem to be showing everything.
[04:00] <Pwnna> lickalott: here's a screenie of my task manager. http://imgur.com/dEY0McP
[04:00] <Pwnna> uhhh
[04:00] <lickalott> file not found
[04:00] <Pwnna> http://imgur.com/dEY0McP
[04:00] <Pwnna> wtf
[04:00] <Pwnna> http://i.imgur.com/dEY0McP.png
[04:00] <lickalott> neg
[04:00] <Pwnna> imgur is fucking up a little
[04:01] <lickalott> whats your imgur username?
[04:01] <Pwnna> ^ there the direct link works for me
[04:01] <SonikkuAmerica> !wtf | Pwnna
[04:01] <Pwnna> sorry. forgot.
[04:01] <SonikkuAmerica> :)
[04:01] <average> Pwnna: also consider that KDE is quite bloated. I use i3 as my window manager because it's super-lightweight. I cannot recommend it enough
[04:01] <SonikkuAmerica> Ah, i3.
[04:01] <average> SonikkuAmerica: do you use it ?
[04:01] <Pwnna> but yeah.
[04:01] <Pwnna> the amount of RAM that X is eating is ridiculous
[04:01] <SonikkuAmerica> average: When I use Ubuntu Studio.
[04:02] <average> SonikkuAmerica: haha
[04:02] <Pwnna> i had trouble compiling Android and i was like.. wait why is my disk getting hit.. o.O Ram is at 100% usage and it is hitting swap
[04:02] <xjokes> #rails
[04:02] <Pwnna> X was using 1GB, Thunderbird was using 1GB...
[04:03] <average> Pwnna: I have some solutions for you...
[04:03] <Pwnna> oh? has someone experienced this problem?
[04:03] <average> Pwnna: I have had problems like that
[04:04] <average> Pwnna: 1st soution =>  get lots of ram(16G or 32G or more if you can), make a ramdisk, throw everything in RAM.   2nd solution => do the same but with an SSD
[04:04] <Pwnna> ...
[04:04] <Pwnna> that's not a solution.
[04:04] <average> works for me. .
[04:05] <Pwnna> lickalott: does http://i.imgur.com/dEY0McP.png work for you?
[04:05] <Pwnna> average: ...
[04:05] <lickalott> yeah, I got to it.
[04:05] <lickalott> Pwnna try this and watch your task manager - echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
[04:05] <lickalott> lemme know if it goes down
[04:05] <Pwnna> so one thing is that i'm using the oibaf drivers, lickalott
[04:05] <average> lickalott: what does that do ?
[04:06] <lickalott> frees your pagecache
[04:06] <lickalott> nothing harmful
[04:06] <Pwnna> and nope
[04:06] <lickalott> k
[04:06] <average> lickalott: can you explain in laymen terms pls ?
[04:06] <Pwnna> it is still slowly creeping up..
[04:06] <lickalott> echo 2 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
[04:06] <Pwnna> nothing.
[04:06] <lickalott> echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
[04:06] <Pwnna> lol
[04:07] <Pwnna> for i=0 to x?
[04:07] <Pwnna> :P
[04:07] <lickalott> http://www.linuxinsight.com/proc_sys_vm_drop_caches.html
[04:07] <Pwnna> for 3 ram usage went down, but that didn't came from X server.
[04:07] <Pwnna> X is still using 1GB
[04:08] <lickalott> so next on the list is a "sync" then sudo init 6
[04:08] <denysonique> Is it possible to disable packages from being installed from a ppa, upgrades that I don't wont?
[04:08] <denysonique> e.g. I install VLC form ppa, but it also wants to upgrade my gnome-terminal
[04:08] <lickalott> depends on what repos you have set denysonique
[04:09] <lickalott> could also read through this Pwnna - http://serenadetoacuckooo.blogspot.ca/2012/03/linux-memory-tweaks-for-improved.html
[04:09] <denysonique> lickalott: in Gentoo you can mask the entire overlay(ppa) and then just unmask the package you want to install. Is this possible in Ubuntu?
[04:09] <lickalott> not sure man.  You'd have to ask a bigger brain that mine.
[04:09] <lickalott> sry
[04:09] <TheDrums> !pin
[04:09] <psusi> Pwnna, how are you measuring this?
[04:09] <lickalott> like TheDrums
[04:09] <lickalott> lol
[04:09] <raspberrypifan> hi y'all i keep having issue with booting from a live usb, it goes into busy box instead of going into boot
[04:10] <Pwnna> lickalott: init 6 just rebooted my system..
[04:10] <lickalott> raspberrypifan, try to rebuild the drive.   What did you use to load the image?
[04:10] <denysonique> TheDrums: more complicated than Gentoo, but thanks
[04:10] <Pwnna> and yeah. X server usage is now down to.. .120MB
[04:10] <lickalott> true Pwnna.  once you sync then reboot
[04:10] <Pwnna> pseubodot: RSS?
[04:10] <raspberrypifan> I'm on a mac trying to build for a pc, i have used unetbootin
[04:10] <raspberrypifan> used two different images just in case
[04:11] <Pwnna> pseubodot: also htop was reporting 19.9% mem usage. and i have 6GB
[04:11] <lickalott> same results on both raspberrypifan
[04:11] <raspberrypifan> yea both images throw me into busybox
[04:11] <lickalott> Pwnna is it creeping up now?
[04:11] <Pwnna> lickalott: it takes like 2 days for it to creep up
[04:11] <qwebirc90574> Hi  , I am having issues in installing Ubuntu(Dual boot along side windows 8) into my vaio laptop . Issue is my wifi goes off ,  Windows boot loader got crrupt  .
[04:12] <lickalott> if you wanna get crazy with it...you can create a while loop that only does top then redirect output to a log file and see what is actually tagging your xserver
[04:12] <lickalott> UEFI vbios qwebirc90574
[04:12] <Pwnna> lickalott: how should i go about creating a cron job to log my x server memory usage every... 10min?
[04:12] <qwebirc90574> what is UEFI vbios
[04:13] <Pwnna> i'll graph it
[04:13] <lickalott> can you still access your winblows partition qwebirc90574?
[04:13] <lickalott> if it takes two days Pwnna you could prob do an hour and still get a good idea
[04:13] <trishan> hi, is any data recovery tools for Ubuntu 13.04
[04:13] <lickalott> yes trishan
[04:13] <Pwnna> lickalott: yeah, but i need to graph it.. right?
[04:14] <lickalott> photorec
[04:14] <qwebirc90574> I was not able to access  .  I has to reinstall to my factory setting and I did it
[04:14] <lickalott> next round try EasyBCD qwebirc90574, but read up on UEFI bios first (windows 8 is a bear)
[04:14] <wikiwill> Hi guys, I'm trying to dual-boot win7/ubuntu, my partition table is MBR, i have a 100MB system reserved partition, the rest of my disk is an NTFS partition, and the ubuntu installer does not give me an option to install alongside windows. It also does not detect any existing partitions in "something else", only free space. I just ran CHKDSK and it found no problems. Can't find any useful sources on google.
[04:15] <Pwnna> does the X server pid ever change if i don't logout?
[04:15] <lickalott> wikiwill, run gparted, break off a piece of the NTFS partition and format ext3, then retry
[04:15] <psusi> wikiwill, boot the livecd and run sudo parted -l
[04:16] <lickalott> Pwnna, i don't believe so
[04:16] <wikiwill> gparted is the "something else" option, and last time i tried it found nothing
[04:16] <Pwnna> kay
[04:16] <raspberrypifan> so no help i just tried mac linux usb loader and its even worse
[04:16] <raspberrypifan> nothing at all
[04:16] <Pwnna> pmap it is
[04:16] <Pwnna> thanks
[04:16] <trishan> one of my friend format my flash drive i lost my important files plz help me how can i recover my flash drive (pen)
[04:16] <psusi> wikiwill, no, gparted is a program, not an installer option
[04:16] <psusi> wikiwill, run sudo parted -l in a terminal and pastebin the output
[04:17] <wikiwill> My mistake, i thought the installer used gparted. I will run that command and return here in 10 minutes with the result
[04:17] <average> wikiwill: what's up ?
[04:17] <lickalott> trishan, google photorec.  You can install via ubuntu.  then just point it to the drive in question and retreive the files you want
[04:17] <average> qwebirc90574: are you wessssss ?
[04:18] <lickalott> parted and gparted are different wikiwill, roll with psusi's option first before you go with gparted.
[04:18] <trishan> thank you so much <lickalott>
[04:19] <average> qwebirc90574: are you wesssss ?
[04:19] <raspberrypifan> come on y'all
[04:19] <lickalott> raspberrypifan ?
[04:19] <raspberrypifan> i know its not ubuntus fault per say but it shouldn't be this difficult to burn an image to flash drive
[04:20] <average> raspberrypifan: sure, have you tried unetbootin or usb-creator-gtk ?
[04:20] <lickalott> you're burning the .iso from a MAC to load a usb image on a windows box? or a MAC?
[04:20] <raspberrypifan> i used unetbootin
[04:20] <raspberrypifan> i haven't heard of usbcreatorgtk
[04:20] <raspberrypifan> on a win box
[04:20] <average> raspberrypifan: so what error do you get ?
[04:21] <raspberrypifan> w unetbootin it throws me into busybox
[04:21] <raspberrypifan> and nothing else
[04:21] <lickalott> the problem may be formatting?   can you see what the usb drive is partitioned as raspberrypifan?
[04:21] <raspberrypifan> yea i formatted it with a MBR
[04:21] <average> raspberrypifan: do you know that there are distributions tailored for raspberrypi ?
[04:22] <average> raspberrypifan: have you considered that the architecture of raspberry is not the same as a normal machine ?
[04:22] <raspberrypifan> its not a pi its for my mom thosibia
[04:22] <average> raspberrypifan: have you used the appropriate distribution and version for that particular architecture ?
[04:22] <average> raspberrypifan: ah I see
[04:22] <average> sorry
[04:22] <lickalott> it's windows avelldiroll
[04:22] <lickalott> average
[04:22] <lickalott> is the windows box dead raspberrypifan?
[04:23] <lickalott> can you try and load the image from that machien?
[04:23] <lickalott> *machine
[04:23] <average> raspberrypifan: well, did you check if the CPU is 32 or 64 bit on the toshiba machine where you tried to use the usb stick ?
[04:23] <Akarin-desu> Where is the bes place on Freenode to ask about general computer troubleshooting?
[04:23] <raspberrypifan> well ttbh i have no idea how u make a live usb rom mint machine
[04:23] <raspberrypifan> I'm pretty sure its 32
[04:23] <average> raspberrypifan: did you use the i386 ubuntu .iso ?
[04:23] <average> raspberrypifan: or the amd64 one ?
[04:23] <lickalott> Akarin-desu, msg me
[04:23] <raspberrypifan> the 1386
[04:24]  * lickalott scratches head
[04:24] <average> raspberrypifan: have you tried different ubuntu versions ?
[04:24] <lickalott> MAC > Windows > Mint??
[04:24] <raspberrypifan> the other machine has linux mint on it, I'm sure i could try and make the usb from there but i have no idea who to do that on a linux macine
[04:24] <average> raspberrypifan: or just one of them ?
[04:24] <raspberrypifan> yea i tried two versions
[04:25] <bugs_bugger> hi there. can someone help me with logic volume management?
[04:25] <average> bugs_bugger: maybe try #lvm ?
[04:25] <average> bugs_bugger: have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lvm ?
[04:26] <average> raspberrypifan: how old is that toshiba machine ?
[04:26] <bugs_bugger> average: i rather meant on general terms: i want to do a reinstall of linux on an existing lvm setup
[04:26] <raspberrypifan> no idea
[04:26] <raspberrypifan> http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Satellite%C2%AE-L755-S5246-Computer-LED-Backlit/dp/B005FND0LI
[04:26] <bugs_bugger> average: whilst keeping my lv home and data partitions
[04:26] <lickalott> the "other" machine is going to be a windows machine?
[04:28] <wikiwill> Hi guys, I was here ten minutes ago, I'm trying to dual boot win7/ubuntu, my drive is MBR, there is a 100MB system reserved NTFS partition and the rest of the disk is another NTFS partition. Ubuntu does not have the install alongside windows option, and "something else" does not detect the existing windows partitons, only a tonne of free space. here is a pastebin of sudo parted -l: http://pastebin.com/STPq4awC
[04:28] <lickalott> or do you have 3 machines that you're working with?
[04:29] <average> wikiwill: are you wesssssss ?
[04:29] <psusi> bugs_bugger, so what's the question?
[04:29] <wikiwill> average: no
[04:29] <wikiwill> average: no
[04:30] <psusi> wikiwill, you have a corrupt partition table
[04:30] <average> wikiwill: recover your data and go for a complete reinstall ?
[04:30] <bugs_bugger> psusi: how to reinstall my system which uses lvm while keeping my home and data lv
[04:30] <Beldar> wikiwill, You have "/dev/sda contains GPT signatures"
[04:30] <wikiwill> average: i just did that.
[04:30] <wikiwill> I spent >10 hours this week recovering data
[04:31] <Beldar> wikiwill, Did you change the partition table to msdos?
[04:31] <average> wikiwill: so just wipe everything out now and you can start the install right ?
[04:31] <wikiwill> I did not change it, but it is MSDOS
[04:31] <psusi> bugs_bugger, choose the "something else" option and assign the partitions as you wish
[04:31] <wikiwill> average: thats what i just did today. didnt fix the problem, what next?
[04:31] <Beldar> wikiwill, You have gpt remnants at the least,
[04:31] <psusi> wikiwill, it seems that at some point you had a gpt partition table and then replaced it with an msdos one
[04:32] <wikiwill> i did
[04:32] <average> wikiwill: try what psusi said ^^
[04:32] <bugs_bugger> psusi: ok. but last time i installed my system /w lvm it did a complete reformat. but i take it that it cant detect and use exisiting lvs?
[04:32] <psusi> wikiwill, install and use gdisk to remove the left over gpt bits, though the fact that parted then said you have a partition outside the disk after answering no to the gpt question indicates there is more damage
[04:32] <wikiwill> it was originally windows, ubuntu installed itself over windows(even though i clicked alongside), i reinstalled windows, recovered my files, now i still want to install ubuntu
[04:32] <wikiwill> what did psusi say
[04:33] <lickalott> format that effer with gparted and start over
[04:33] <psusi> bugs_bugger, only if you choose "use the entire disk and set it up with lvm" instead of "something else"
[04:33] <wikiwill> ok
[04:33] <wikiwill> ok
[04:33] <lickalott> LVM???  psusi we can't be friend anymore
[04:33] <bugs_bugger> psusi: ah, k, i see..
[04:34] <wikiwill> would you recommend i run gdisk from a live cd or install ubuntu first
[04:34] <lickalott> :p
[04:34] <bugs_bugger> lickalott: whats wrong 'bout lvm?
[04:34] <psusi> lickalott, eh?
[04:34] <psusi> wikiwill, you can do it from the livecd
[04:34] <average> wikiwill: live cd
[04:34] <wikiwill> thanks guys, you're a wonderful community
[04:34] <average> wikiwill: live stick
[04:34] <Beldar> wikiwill, you can remove the gpt remnants without a reinstall. http://www.rodsbooks.com/fixparts/
[04:34] <lickalott> joking.  i'm not a fan only because if something catastophic happens it's a bitch to mount anything on an LVM to retrieve data
[04:34] <average> wikiwill: a wonderful community ? wow
[04:35] <average> we're a wonderful community !
[04:35] <psusi> lickalott, not really, just have to install the lvm package... and it's nice to be able to do things like pick up your running root fs and move it to a new drive on the fly without having to reboot into a livecd
[04:35] <bugs_bugger> average: +1 ;)
[04:36] <psusi> or grow your root partition without needing to reboot, though I finally got the ability to do that into the very latest gparted release
[04:36] <wikiwill> gdisk found MBR and GPT. should i use MBR or create blank GPT?
[04:36] <psusi> using non lvm partitions
[04:37] <psusi> wikiwill, if you think you are using mbr, then you want to zap the gpt
[04:37] <psusi> and stick with the mbr
[04:37] <bugs_bugger> lickalott: usually in case of catastrophic events i got a backup of important stuff ;) but its good to keep that in mind since i like to play around...
[04:38] <lickalott> not if the the boot/kernel has been corrupted psusi.  even installing the lvm2 package won't allow you to mount.  I had to roll out gparted and change/add a partition table so i could even mount.
[04:38] <psusi> lickalott, boot live cd, install lvm, mount away
[04:38] <wikiwill> alright, so gdisk can list my partitions. sohuld i verify or should i be doing something else?
[04:38] <lickalott> agreed bugs_bugger.  I've been using a script (historically) but recently I've been playing with clonezilla, rsync, and rsnapshot
[04:39] <bugs_bugger> bugs_bugger is taking notes on his emergency pad...
[04:39] <psusi> wikiwill, verify wouldn't hurt, then write the changes
[04:39] <lickalott> not that easy sometimes psusi
[04:39] <wikiwill> ah right, i didnt see write to disk, thanks
[04:39] <bugs_bugger> lickalott: rsync is awesome ;)
[04:39] <psusi> wikiwill, then run parted -l again and it should see things right
[04:39] <wikiwill> wait no it says its about to write GPT data
[04:39] <psusi> wikiwill, didn't you tell it to zap the gpt?
[04:40] <wikiwill> i selected "1" for MBR
[04:40] <bugs_bugger> lickalott: admitted, i kinda got a soft spot for gui, so grsync ;-)
[04:41] <lickalott> i haven't run a gui based *nix os for so long...  i've just been creating backup scripts for stuff.  But when my backup wasn't sufficient for the rebuild of my server i knew I had to approach different avenues
[04:42] <wikiwill> psusi: ah, i didnt se the expert menu with the "zap" command.
[04:42] <psusi> wikiwill, you want the (x)tended menu and (z)ap gpt option
[04:43] <wikiwill> psusi: and now, i should install windows and then ubuntu again?
[04:43] <bugs_bugger> lickalott: given that circumstances, i guess scripting a good backup system might get difficult
[04:43] <lickalott> here's a thought...   we/someone needs to develop an application that allows us (helpers) to see what they (askers/users) are seeing so we can assist better.  maybe an android or crapple app that allows the use of the camera to stream live vid to someone that the user/asker dictates.
[04:43] <psusi> wikiwill, yea... check and make sure parted -l is happy first
[04:44] <wikiwill> unrecognized disk label+partition outside disk.... is that ok, psusi?
[04:44] <psusi> wikiwill, nope
[04:44] <lickalott> yeah!  especially if you want a "real" backup image.  because the stuff you'll want it mounted when you want it, it becomes difficult.   I've had the best luck with dd, but i don't want a full 500GB copy of a drive when only 100GB is being used.
[04:45] <lickalott> rsync seems to be the best option at this point
[04:45] <psusi> wikiwill, wait, there is nothing on this disk you want to save and you just want to format and reinstall everything?
[04:45] <wikiwill> psusi i already backed it up this week because of the last time i installed ubuntu and it wiped windows a week ago
[04:46] <wikiwill> psusi i'd rather have the convenience of not reformatting tho
[04:46] <psusi> wikiwill, well it seems your partition table is still corrupt... pastebin the output of fdisk -l
[04:46] <mojtaba> !ru
[04:46] <lickalott> wikiwill have you ever played with acronis?
[04:47] <wikiwill> psusi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6615330/
[04:47] <wikiwill> lickalott: no
[04:47] <lickalott> look into it for future windows endevors
[04:47] <psusi> wikiwill, ohh.. is that the right disk?  I thought you said gdisk saw a correct MBR partition table?
[04:47] <wikiwill> lickalott: i used easeus to recover my data
[04:48] <wikiwill> psusi: it has to be. no other disks, SD cards, USB drives, are inserted. only one HDD and one DVD drive
[04:48] <psusi> wikiwill, well, it's gone now
[04:49] <wikiwill> psusi, so installing windows should work and then ubuntu will detect it now?
[04:49] <wikiwill> parted -l still returns the same thing
[04:49] <psusi> wikiwill, yep
[04:50] <wikiwill> Alright psusi, thanks for your help, I'll install windows and then ubuntu, if something goes wrong, i'll be back here within an hour
[04:53]  * lickalott keeps the fire warm
[04:58] <raspberrypifan> so whose heard of xbmcunbutu
[04:59] <Beldar> raspberrypifan, No polling and this is canonical ubuntu release support.
[05:00] <raspberrypifan> is there a channel for that
[05:05] <bugs_bugger> #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:06] <SonikkuAmerica> Beldar: He doesn't sound like he's polling, but...
[05:06] <SonikkuAmerica> raspberrypifan: If you're looking for XBMC support, you might try #xbmc-linux
[05:06] <raspberrypifan> yes i joined thanks
[05:07] <bugs_bugger> sorry, missed that second line
[05:10] <atma111> i have one problem ubuntu server and squid3
[05:13] <coventry`> Is there a reliable way to get the length of an mp3?  It appears that mp3info underestimates, mplayer overestimates.
[05:13] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | atma111
[05:15] <dougbb> is anyone else experiencing a problem with 13.10 where every time you reopen a gtk window it grows a few pixels?
[05:15] <Guest20254> Is there a better IRC client at all?
[05:17] <dougbb> Guest20254: if you just want to chat, pidgin does quite well on IRC
[05:17] <SchrodingersScat> !info weechat | Guest20254
[05:17] <isosceles> dash no longer shows me applications. is there any hope?
[05:18] <dougbb> isosceles: a little context please?
[05:19] <isosceles> dougbb: 13.10
[05:19] <isosceles> many unity / window management problems
[05:20] <Guest20254> ok i'll have a look at weechat
[05:20] <Guest20254> can I get weechat off of Ubuntu Software Center?
[05:20] <isosceles> among them: dash will not find any applications. all i want to do is find "startup disk creator" so i can install a fresh operating system.
[05:21] <isosceles> dougbb: any other information i can provide?
[05:22] <dougbb> what are you typing, and what happens when you type it?
[05:23] <isosceles> dougbb: "sorry, there is nothing that matches your search"
[05:23] <dougbb> what happens if you open a terminal?
[05:23] <isosceles> dougbb: i am typing anything. name an application -- if i type it, nothing results
[05:24] <isosceles> i haven't tested terminal as much, but the couple applications i recently tried to run did not run.
[05:24] <farah> hello
[05:24] <dougbb> "did not run" doesn't really help :)
[05:24] <dougbb> what happens when you try?
[05:24] <imghost> isosceles, tried any de other than unity?
[05:25] <superboot> isosceles: "de" = Desktop Environment
[05:26] <isosceles> dougbb: test me. what do you want me to try in terminal?
[05:26] <isosceles> imghost: puppy linux, microcore
[05:26] <dougbb> isosceles: imghost asked a better question ... but for example try 'ls'
[05:27]  * farah slaps FloodBot1 around a bit with a large trout
[05:27] <isosceles> dougbb: ls returns the contents of my home folder.
[05:27] <imghost> isosceles, /etc/X11/default-display-manager paste its output
[05:28] <imghost> isosceles, whats the output of dpkg -l | grep unity-scope-home
[05:29] <isosceles> imghost: bash: /etc/X11/default-display-manager: Permission denied
[05:29] <imghost> isosceles, use sudo
[05:29] <dougbb> imghost: he tried to run the file
[05:30] <isosceles> imghost: ii  unity-scope-home                                            6.8.2+13.10.20131003-0ubuntu1            amd64        Home scope that aggregates results from multiple scopes
[05:30] <dougbb> isosceles: do this:  cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[05:31] <isosceles> dougbb: /usr/sbin/lightdm
[05:31] <imghost> isosceles, dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[05:32] <imghost> isosceles, after that paste the output of cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and use pastebinit for posting multiple lines
[05:32] <isosceles> imghost: okay, nothing noticeable happened.
[05:33] <imghost> !pastebinit | isosceles
[05:33] <isosceles> imghost: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6615476/
[05:36] <imghost> isosceles, ok, now dconf reset -f /org/compiz/
[05:36] <isosceles> imghost: done
[05:36] <imghost> isosceles, then setsid unity
[05:36] <imghost> isosceles, unity --reset-icons
[05:37] <imghost> isosceles, relogin now or better do one reboot
[05:38] <isosceles> imghost: my min/max buttons are back! haven't had those in days
[05:38] <imghost> isosceles, just do one reboot and tell me the results
[05:39] <isosceles> imghost: i am literally pouring a dram of bourbon in celebration. i will reboot and report back.
[05:39] <imghost> isosceles, ok :)
[05:43] <isosceles> imghost: rebooted and problem(s) solved. i can find applications with dash again. any chance you can explain/summarize how that worked?
[05:45] <imghost> isosceles, glad to help you :) now you do not want to do a fresh install :), actualy when we use many DE then sometimes they conflict with each other
[05:45] <isosceles> imghost: did i use conflicting DE?
[05:45] <imghost> isosceles, means configurations files,settings
[05:46] <imghost> isosceles, yes, when you were doing experiments :)
[05:46] <isosceles> imghost: could my problems have been caused by "unity tweak"
[05:46] <imghost> isosceles, no. i do not think so
[05:47] <isosceles> imghost: i don't fiddle too much
[05:47] <isosceles> imghost: well thank you for the help
[05:47] <imghost> isosceles, relax :), just do one thing create a backups of all your default configurations :)
[05:48] <isosceles> imghost: backup in process
[05:48] <imghost> !yay | isosceles
[05:48] <dougbb> imghost: do you know off hand if there is an xfce equivalent to that --reset-icons command?
[05:48] <isosceles> ubottu: cheers
[05:48] <[[thufir]]> is it normal that ssh into a remote server, digital ocean, will sometimes freeze?  I'm running something on the server at 100% cpu...
[05:49] <[[thufir]]> ssh just crashed with "Write failed: Broken pipe" a sec ago.
[05:49] <dougbb> [[thufir]]: yes, ssh needs system resources just like any other process
[05:50] <imghost> dougbb, sorry did not get you :(
[05:51] <dougbb> imghost: you gave isoceles the 'unity --reset-icons' command
[05:51] <imghost> yes
[05:51] <dougbb> just wondering if you know of an xfce equivalent
[05:51] <dougbb> I use xfce, not unity
[05:52] <imghost> dougbb, ok, i will try whats the exact problem are you facing with xfce?
[05:53] <dougbb> I have had the same home directory for a couple years, and upgraded from a working 13.04 to 13.10 when it was released. Ever since then I have had all kinds of wacky minor issues
[05:53] <dougbb> for example, the default mail icon won't appear, but all the other ones do
[05:54] <dougbb> I tried changing icon themes, even manually verified the settings on the icon, and that the icon file is readable, but it just shows up as the default empty box
[05:54] <dougbb> the other thing that's making me nutso is that all of my gtk windows grow a few pixels every time  I reopen them
[05:54] <imghost> dougbb, did you have a backup of xfconfd??
[05:54] <roothorick> is there a way to prevent the liveCD from loading nouveau?
[05:54] <dougbb> I'm hoping the latter one is fixed in today's update
[05:55] <dougbb> imghost: not from before the 13.04 -> 13.10 update :-/
[05:55] <dougbb> imghost: I've used ubuntu off and on since the 8.x days, I've never had this kind of trouble
[05:56] <dougbb> I purposely have my /home on a different partition so I can do a clean install of the OS whenever I have to, and preserve my settings
[05:57] <imghost> dougbb, installing a fresh os is not solution of this types of problems
[05:58] <dougbb> yeah, I do that more when custom stuff I've installed gets away from me :)
[05:58] <dougbb> I am more disciplined about 'configure --prefix=/usr/local' now :)
[05:59] <dougbb> what I really need to do is try creating a new user and see how many of the problems persist
[05:59] <dougbb> I hate to wipe out my settings and start over, I've got years of accumulated things it would take me weeks to set right again
[06:00] <dougbb> but work is slow this holiday season, so I thought I'd poke around in here for a bit first, then take the plunge if I have to
[06:00] <Bsims> dougbb: try zapping the gtk config first
[06:00] <imghost> dougbb, i will try to solve your problem but first letme finish my lunch :)
[06:00] <Bsims> simply rename the folder, let it recreate it, if that didn't fix it delete and change the folder name back
[06:01] <dougbb> imghost: no hurry, it's been a long tiem already :)
[06:01] <dougbb> Bsims: you're referring to .gconf ?
[06:02] <Bsims> correct
[06:05] <nicklecoder> Question: I have a desktop computer I'm trying to connect to my television using a vga-to-rca converter box. The picture is perfect while booting but goes away as soon as the bios hands things over to the os. I can ssh into the desktop. How do I force it to send video signals even though it doesn't see the monitor?
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> nicklecoder: did you try with xrandr?
[06:11] <dougbb> removing .gconf didn't help
[06:12] <average> hey what happens if I remove ubuntu-desktop and unity ?
[06:12] <average> they're a pain in the as
[06:12] <average> *ass
[06:13] <average> I don't use them..
[06:13] <FloodBot1> average: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:13] <average> FloodBot1: shut up, I live in a free country, stop censoring me
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> !notunity | average
[06:13] <nicklecoder> I tried, but with xrandr through ssh, all I got was local changes.
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | nicklecoder
[06:14] <average> lotuspsychje: so can I run gnome stuff without ubuntu-desktop & unity ?
[06:14] <steff_> anyone know the command to start/restart LightDM?
[06:14] <average> steff_: yes , /etc/init.d/lightdm start
[06:14] <average> steff_: /etc/init.d/lightdm stop
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> average: you should install gnome shell if you dont like unity
[06:14] <average> steff_: sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm restart
[06:14] <average> lotuspsychje: but I don't use gnome shell either
[06:14] <steff_> thnx has to be from within the directory?
[06:15] <average> lotuspsychje: I use i3 and lxterminal
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> average: what is your actual purpose?
[06:15] <average> steff_: no, from anywhere
[06:15] <nicklecoder> Ok, so I tried xrandr in a terminal that is ssh'd in to my desktop; prob
[06:15] <nicklecoder> lem is that it doesn't set things on the desktop, only locally, even though it's through ssh.
[06:16] <average> lotuspsychje: I want to take out libzeitgeist-1.0-1  right ? but aptitude says ubuntu-desktop and unity will be broken if I do that.
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> average: there have been issues with purge zeitgeist, removing unity yes i would not reccomend it
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> average: why do you want zeitgeist out?
[06:17] <average> lotuspsychje: because I don't need it at all
[06:17] <average> it;s a nuissance
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> average: you can disable in settings right
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> average: if it really bothers you, ask the proper way to remove zeitgeist here in chat
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> average: but i would be really cautious
[06:19] <dougbb> back up your data first :)
[06:21] <arunkumar413> HI all,  I want to share by laptop ethernet connection over wi-fi
[06:21] <lickalott> average save me from reading "up", whats the problem?
[06:21] <arunkumar413> how to do it
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> lickalott: he likes to purge zeitgeist, a safe way
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> lickalott: without removing unity
[06:22] <Rastart> whoops..
[06:22] <lickalott> arunkumar413, huh?
[06:22] <Rastart> is that channel for social matters?
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> !ot | Rastart
[06:23] <lickalott> average are you running an older distro but want the repos/additions of newer releases?
[06:23] <Rastart> so a social guy is not allowed here...?
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> Rastart: if the social guy has an ubuntu problem, sure!
[06:23] <arunkumar413> lickalott: what happened
[06:24] <Beldar> !hotspot
[06:24] <lickalott> arunkumar413, why would you want to do that?  splain pls, for troubleshooting purposes
[06:24] <dougbb> Rastart: this is not a chat channel, there are plenty of those :)
[06:24] <Rastart> should i invent to have some ubuntu problem to keep talking with you? i think you so funny :D
[06:24] <arunkumar413> lickalott: I want to connect an android device
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> Beldar: there is one trigger for it i also forget it
[06:25] <dougbb> arunkumar413: what device?
[06:25] <lickalott> so you are tethering an android and want to essentially share your 4g connection via wifi to other devices?
[06:25] <arunkumar413> dougbb: an android mobile phone
[06:25] <average> lickalott: the problem is this zeitgeist man, it's like ... been proven to be a privacy problem, it's like sending personal data from your computer to some places, I don't want that, so I want it to die
[06:25] <Beldar> arunkumar413, https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=ubuntu+hotspot&gbv=1&sei=pYW2UqjvF8qEoQTqm4HgDw
[06:25] <Rastart> well guys have a nice day
[06:26] <average> lickalott: so I was explaining to lotuspsychje why I wanna remove zeitgeist and he's like "ask for the properw ay to remove zeitgeist" .. I mean.. apt-get purge or aptitude purge, what else would be the proper way ?
[06:26] <dougbb> Rastart: you too :)
[06:26] <lickalott> apt-get remove
[06:26] <Rastart> it's been a pleasure to spend some time with you but i suppose you got something better to do then waste time with some random buddy
[06:26] <raspberrypifan> apt-get remove hate
[06:26] <average> lickalott: yeah.. remove/purge , has the same effect (except for configuration files and data that is removed by purge)
[06:26] <dougbb> arunkumar413: do you want to use the cell phone's Internet connection for your laptop to connect through, or the other way around?
[06:27] <lickalott> do you know the exact process that you want killed?
[06:27] <Beldar> raspberrypifan, read the channel code of contact you have been way off of it's use.
[06:27] <lickalott> average if you can get a pid just throw a script in rc2.d to kill that process on boot up
[06:28] <lickalott> or set a cronjob to make sure it's killed every 10/20 mins or so
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> there is a proper way to remove zeitgeist
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> but i cant remember
[06:28] <raspberrypifan> what'd i do
[06:29] <iseeself> um, guys can i ask a pygtk question here?(other channels are dead)
[06:29] <average> lotuspsychje: please tell me if you look into it or remember the way
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> average: cant remember sorry, thats why i suggested you to ask in channel here
[06:29] <lickalott> i'm digging right now average
[06:30] <average> Hey Everybody ?? What is the *correct* way to remove this ZEITGEIST thing from my Ubuntu install ?!
[06:30] <Rastart>  iseeself , channels never die for real who told you that crap?
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> !language | Rastart
[06:30] <hkr> Use synaptic or sudo apt-get purge <packagename> I guess...
[06:30] <average> Does anyone do Security Reviews of the Ubuntu distribution ? If so, what other things should I remove from my Ubuntu installs to make them *safe* ?
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> hkr: if you remove zeitgeist that way, it will influence unity
[06:31] <hkr> Oh ... Right...
[06:31] <average> hkr: and ubuntu-desktop
[06:31] <lickalott> AHHHH..... that was what I was talking about earlier average.  the surperfetch equivlent that could be spiking that dudes 1GB X process
[06:31] <hkr> Im in xubuntu, sorry >_<
[06:31] <average> lickalott: yeah, *SUPERFETCH* , another *nuissance*
[06:31] <lickalott> have you tried sudo apt-get --purge remove zeitgeist
[06:32] <hkr> Try dpkg -l |grep zeit
[06:32] <average> like what's with all this stuff that's running in my Ubuntu by default
[06:32] <average> I don't even know what it is
[06:32] <average> what's up with superfetch and zeitgeist ?
[06:32] <hkr> Better google it
[06:32] <lickalott> i run server so i dont see that stuffs.
[06:32] <hkr> Too much to explain here I guess... And I don't know much either
[06:32] <lickalott> superfetch is a RAM management process
[06:32] <dougbb> average: this looks promising: http://askubuntu.com/questions/45548/disabling-zeitgeist
[06:32] <average> lickalott: maybe I should install Ubuntu server on my desktop to get rid of all that nuissance stuff
[06:33] <average> dougbb: ah, thanks sir !
[06:33] <Rastart> oh oh sorry...i said have a nice day some time before...but i usually forgot...oh well...it seems i really have to leave you be because this is a family friendly polite and professional and i don't know sh.t about civilization
[06:33] <average> lickalott: yeah but, doesn't the kernel manage RAM ?
[06:33] <lickalott> kills have the issues that come up.  I have 0 xserver problems
[06:33] <lickalott> superfetch is a winblows process
[06:33] <lickalott> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/08/is-zeitgeist-spying-on-you >[06:34] <average> Hey Ubuntu developers !! Hey Canonical !! Yeah I'm talking to *YOU* !!! Remove this *superfetch* nuissance !! I don't want it !! And zeitgeist too !
[06:34] <Rastart> well i have to go please forgive me buddys...
[06:34] <hkr> So "dpkg -l |grep zeit" didn't do it, average ?
[06:35] <Beldar> lickalott, using windows in that manner does not make you cool here and is not allowed.
[06:35] <lickalott> check this one out too average - http://linuxaria.com/howto/how-to-remove-zeitgeist-in-ubuntu-and-why?lang=en
[06:35] <lickalott> huh?
[06:35] <lickalott> oh....calling it winblows?
[06:35] <Beldar> you miss spelled it as a comment
[06:36] <lickalott> misspelled is one word
[06:36] <average> I hate superfetch , I hope it dies
[06:36] <lickalott> average superfetch is windows only
[06:36] <Rastart> will you forgive me? promise me you not angry with me...i' m a good guy but i connected to the wrong channel..and don't lie to me i know you geeks.
[06:36] <lickalott> do we want to continue to knitpick Beldar?
[06:37] <Beldar> lickalott, It is a channel rule.
[06:37] <dougbb> Rastart: it's all good, stop apologizing and find yourself a chat channel :)
[06:37] <lickalott> language type rule?
[06:37] <arunkumar413> dougbb: the other way, share laptop wired connection over wireless
[06:37] <Rastart> i dunno what a chat channel is.
[06:38] <lickalott> Rastart, type /list then scroll through and find one that suites your fancy
[06:38] <lickalott> Beldar is it a language thing?
[06:38] <Beldar> lickalott, You are asked to act like an adult and be respectful, straight forward stuff.
[06:38] <lickalott> copy
[06:39] <lickalott> it is kinda funny though...  cmon, I know you snickered a lil
[06:39] <dougbb> arunkumar413: yeah, that's what I thought you meant ... I seriously doubt you'll be able to do that, unless you can connect your laptop to the wire and then use your wireless card as an AP
[06:39] <lickalott> arunkumar413 you can do that within windows, but I've never played with it in ubuntu or *nix for that matter
[06:40] <lickalott> maybe search "create 4G hotspot and share via ubuntu"
[06:40] <[[thufir]]> I want to create dummy upstart job creation file in /etc/init   -- are there some examples?
[06:41] <[[thufir]]> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#respawn   is what  I want.  pardon the double post.
[06:41] <lickalott> [[thufir]] create the script and throw it in rc2.d
[06:42] <lickalott>  or creat it in init.d and softlink it to rc2.d
[06:42] <lickalott> *create
[06:43] <dougbb> better to do the soft link trick, files in rc*.d can have "issues"
[06:43] <Rastart> that's really a geek trick..lickalott..you my hero..now i'm going to try that new trick and if all goes wrong i'll complain.
[06:44] <lickalott> lol...I'll be here
[06:44] <nicklecoder> Can one force VGA output of a specific resolution when no display is detected? xrandr can't find anything.
[06:45] <lickalott> nicklecoder for VPN or RDP type processes?
[06:45] <lickalott> *VNC not VPN
[06:46] <nicklecoder> just for local processes; while I am accessing the box I through ssh, I also have access to a local terminal and can enter commands (if I type carefully, as I can't see anything).
[06:46] <lickalott> you think it's a resolution thing with SSH?
[06:46] <dougbb> nicklecoder: are you getting any display at all?
[06:46] <nicklecoder> Essentially, I want my desktop to output VGA at 1024x768 60 hz even if it can't detect anything connected to it.
[06:46] <nicklecoder> No display at all.
[06:47] <nicklecoder> xrandr can't even connect to the displays.
[06:47] <lickalott> the desktop is ubuntu, i'm assuming
[06:47] <nicklecoder> yup; 13.10
[06:47] <lickalott> desktop version
[06:47] <lickalott> ?
[06:47] <nicklecoder> yeah, though I did install a server to run a local instance of gitlab for the fun of it.
[06:48] <nicklecoder> (it was installed as desktop edition, server I added in myself, but shouldn't change anything)
[06:48] <lickalott> have you played with the resolution within the system settings to see if it makes a difference?
[06:48] <iseeself> Guys, can someone help me with pygtk stuff?
[06:48] <nicklecoder> I have tried, but since xrandr can't connect to the display, nothing happens.
[06:48] <lickalott> did you state your question already iseeself
[06:49] <lickalott> the install was without display as well?
[06:49] <nicklecoder> When I boot, the bios screen shows fine, but when ubuntu takes over, it shows the purple screen for a sec, then the screen goes completely blank and can't tell it's connected to anything.
[06:49] <nicklecoder> The install was with a display; I'm just trying to connect it to my tv now ;)
[06:49] <lickalott> can you ssh into it now? (and see stuff)?
[06:49] <nicklecoder> yup.
[06:49] <prashant_123456> mehdi: hello
[06:49] <prashant_123456> shivani: hello
[06:49] <lickalott> can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf content?
[06:49] <lickalott> nicklecoder ^^
[06:50] <nicklecoder> Actually have an open ssh shell at the moment.
[06:50] <raspberrypifan> is there a "netflix" app for ubuntu
[06:50] <nicklecoder> The machine is working, it's just not sending anything out through VGA (though at first it does for a few seconds)
[06:50] <lickalott> if you install pastebinit you can just shoot us the url. (i.e. sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[06:51] <lickalott> how big was the monitor used at install vs the size of your TV?
[06:51] <prashant_123456> lickalott: wgetpaste
[06:51] <nicklecoder> raspberrypifan: there's a silverlight emulator for ubuntu that I've heard makes it possible to watch netflix. Can't recall what it's called though.
[06:51] <iseeself> I am writing a MCQ Self-Assesment test deployment program and i want to integrate a countdown timer into the test-window. i have two approach in mind, one is to add a function in an infinite loop along with gtk.main_iteration or use a subprocess that informs main program that one second has passed that inturn calls a call back to change the value of time left. The thing is, i have no idea if either of t
[06:51] <iseeself> hese approach will work. Any suggestions?
[06:51] <lickalott> FYI the command to throw something to pastebinit is: i.e. cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit
[06:52] <raspberrypifan> i like the new look of ubuntu but where is the terminal?
[06:52] <nicklecoder> The monitor goes up to 1600x900 but the tv converter box only goes up to 1024x768
[06:52] <lickalott> ctrl+shift+t raspberrypifan
[06:52] <lickalott> or you can go dig for it and add it to your "application bar"
[06:52] <vinse> Hi all
[06:52] <vinse> How's everyone tonight
[06:52] <nicklecoder> ctrl+alt+t is how it works on mine...
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> !netflix | nicklecoder
[06:53] <nicklecoder> or ctrl-alt-F1
[06:53] <lickalott> explain the "tv convertor box"
[06:53] <nicklecoder> So no way to force vga output without any known connection?
[06:53] <lickalott> its been a while since i messed with desktop, nicklecoder may be right
[06:54] <prashant_123456> vinse: hello
[06:54] <lickalott> nicklecoder explain "tv convertor box"
[06:55] <raspberrypifan> the new app store type thing is nice but it seems to be limited in terms of repos, or does it work some other way. I haven't played with ubuntu since 2006
[06:55] <lickalott> lotuspsychje was that for nicklecoder or raspberrypifan?
[06:55] <nicklecoder> I have a box that takes vga and usb(for power) on one side, and outputs svideo and rca on the other.
[06:55] <vinse> I'm having an issue with hibernating if someone has time to help. My computer fails to hibernate sometime within the day
[06:55] <vinse> Otherwise it works most of the time
[06:55] <vinse> When it does fail, it just starts up at the login screen again
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> lickalott: well as nicklecoder didnt remember the netflix solution, i pasted to him
[06:56]  * bugs_bugger grabs hkr's tambourine and makes a run for it
[06:56] <lickalott> have you ever had "that box" work correctly
[06:56] <nicklecoder> It works when connected to my laptop, but that machine doesn't have support for 5.1 surround sound...
[06:56] <raspberrypifan> it seems this new ubuntu interface takes from os x
[06:56] <lickalott> oh.... just saw his comment to raspberrypifan.
[06:56]  * lickalott goes back to sucking his thumb in the corner
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> vinse: maybe check around dconf-editor and check your energy options
[06:56] <raspberrypifan> there seems to be something called pipe light so I'm trying it out
[06:56] <nicklecoder> thnx lotuspsychje; haven't been digging there for a while as hulu does me just fine.
[06:56] <[[thufir]]> lickalott: thx
[06:56] <Fou_> is there a way to remove trinity interface ?
[06:57] <prashant_123456> is anyone here using i3 window manager ?
[06:57] <lickalott> Fou_, how did you make out the other night?
[06:57] <dougbb> vinse: even when suspend/hibernate works for me, I still have to reboot every few days ... things get out of sync othersie
[06:57] <Fou_> o shit
[06:57] <dougbb> s/othersie/otherwise/
[06:57] <Fou_> lickalott
[06:57] <hkr> Shit
[06:57] <Fou_> whats up
[06:57] <lickalott> nada, been looking for you to follow up
[06:57] <hkr> Gimme my tamberina back, bugs_bugger
[06:57] <Fou_> oooo i just maked a sofware raid
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> !language
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> keep it clean guys
[06:57] <dougbb> ... which reminds me, ever since 13.10 bluetooth doesn't come back after resume
[06:57] <lickalott> Fou_ = potty mouth
[06:58] <Fou_> lol sorry
[06:58] <bugs_bugger> hkr: nope :-p
[06:58] <Fou_> had 8 pints of beer and a bottle of wine
[06:58] <Fou_> my bad
[06:58] <Fou_> also can not speel right lol
[06:58] <Fou_> but ...
[06:58] <Fou_> its all good
[06:58] <FloodBot1> Fou_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:58] <bugs_bugger> hkr: catch me if you can
[06:59] <hkr> >:(
[06:59] <Fou_> lol thank you floodbot1
[06:59] <lickalott> lol @ Fou_  2 strikes
[06:59] <hkr> I'm getting you banned for theft.
[06:59] <Fou_> really
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> guys stop it
[06:59]  * lickalott gets ready to grab the timeout chair
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> use this channel for ubuntu support only
[06:59] <Fou_> lol wow
[06:59] <Fou_> i didn't do much
[07:00] <Fou_> i didn't know it was that sensative
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> Fou_: this isnt a chitchat channel, go to #ubuntu-offtopic for regular chat
[07:00] <raj1991raj> I was using windows before this, but since my bandwidth was decreased, i wasnt able to load facebook, fortunately i thought of using linux once, and see i could touch the cap of my bandwidth and also i successfully loaded FB. well this is pretty amazing to know that in ubuntu i know what exactly is using internet. unlikely in windows some background process like an updater automatically starts . for e.g adobe updater
[07:00] <lickalott> so nicklecoder...  any sound or have you gotten that far?
[07:00] <Fou_> well i do have stuff i like to add for help
[07:00] <nicklecoder> Sound works perfectly.
[07:01] <lickalott> just no vid
[07:01] <prashant_123456> raj1991raj: r u from india ?
[07:01] <lickalott> whats the name of the box you're using?
[07:01] <raj1991raj> prashant_123456: ji han
[07:01] <Jumpie> been having a bear of a time getting ubuntu 13.10 to handle my ati drivers correctly, so i reinstalled xubuntu 12.10, supposedly more stable, but whats wierd is, both times with ubuntu 13 my lan drivers were detected immediatley upon install, asrock motherboard with standard atheros chipset...with xubuntu 12.10 it says no network connection, lspci shows the device and lshw shows network
[07:01] <Jumpie> unclaimed...device is not blacklisted
[07:01] <Jumpie> is there any possible way to try to kick start this thing or assign a geneeric driver without the hassle of trying to find a driver and put it on a usb drive
[07:01] <Fou_> lotuspsychje i have a question could you explain to me whey ubuntu can be mapped to a drive through fstab and i can not use transmission to send the files to that mapped drive ?
[07:01] <Fou_> ?
[07:01] <nicklecoder> The system itself is running fine; I can ssh in, it is responsive, it would even play music if I could figure out how to get it to, but the display disappears right after the splash screen comes on while connected to the converter box.
[07:01] <Jumpie> atheros ar8171
[07:01] <prashant_123456> raj1991raj: i am also an indian guy
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> !fstab | Fou_
[07:02] <Fou_> you can use fstab to map or samba server to connect to another location
[07:02] <raj1991raj> prashant_123456: move to #defocus for general talk :)
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> Fou_: pastebin your fstab in channel, so other can take a look
[07:02] <Fou_> right ?
[07:02] <Fou_> i can move smal files but nothing over like 3 gigs on a ext3 or ext 4
[07:02] <lickalott> or NFS Fou_ but yes, those are correct
[07:02] <vinse> dougbb I have to reboot every few hours to get it to work again :(
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[07:03] <lickalott> nicklecoder whats the make/model of the convertor you're using?
[07:03] <prashant_123456> raj1991raj: ok ok and i am not new to linux and also to #ubuntu
[07:03] <dougbb> vinse: are you doing actual hibernate, or suspend?
[07:03] <nicklecoder> sewell sw-23000
[07:03] <prashant_123456> raj1991raj: no blame to you
[07:03] <bugs_bugger> hkr: there you go: http://www.musicwithease.com/tambourine.gif. Dont wanna be a bully ;)
[07:03] <hkr> :D Thanks
[07:04] <hkr> There is a hole in it >:( bugs_bugger!
[07:04] <vinse> I'm running the command sudo pm-hibernate
[07:04] <prashant_123456> raj1991raj: i am just here to help others
[07:04] <Jumpie> anybody?
[07:05] <dougbb> vinse: I'm not familiar with that ... what desktop do you use?
[07:05] <vinse> I'm using ubuntu
[07:05] <bugs_bugger> hkr: that was already there. by siddartha, i swear
[07:05] <raj1991raj> prashant_123456: good, well i wanted to talk in general so how about #defocus
[07:05] <hkr> :|
[07:05] <dougbb> Jumpie: sounds like you've got some hardware that's focused on windows
[07:06] <lickalott> nicklecoder, run an lspci and make sure that you're videocard is being picked up.
[07:06] <dougbb> vinse: are you using regular default ubuntu ... so the unity desktop?
[07:06] <vinse> oh
[07:06] <vinse> I am using gnome shell
[07:06] <Fou_> thanks for the link lotuspsychje i guess you don't know enought to help me thanks ...
[07:07] <dougbb> vinse: Ok, is there an icon for suspend/hibernate?  Maybe if you choose log out from the menu?
[07:07] <vinse> yup I tried
[07:07] <vinse> I'm going to try installing TuxOnIce, ever heard of it?
[07:07] <dougbb> vinse, try suspend instead of hibernate .... hibernation can be very hardware specific
[07:08] <vinse> suspend works fine
[07:09] <vinse> just i'd like hibernate to conserve energy
[07:09] <dougbb> vinse: try web searching for 'ubuntu hibernate <your hardware>'
[07:09] <dougbb> it might not work
[07:10] <lickalott> and i'm out kids.  have fun.  nicklecoder there doesn't seem to be very much support for that box.  I would check the lspci then maybe move to the drivers for your videocard.  If all that checks out, i would take the box out of the equation (if you can) and see if going direct to the TV works.
[07:10] <lickalott> worst case - get a roku or a wdtv lol
[07:10] <nicklecoder> sounds good; I'll see what I can do.
[07:11] <lickalott> or....maybe reload the OS with the system hooked up to the box/tv.... maybe that will pick up the resolution and use it as the primary monitor?
[07:11] <lickalott> just a though.
[07:11] <lickalott> to test that theory you could run a livecd and "try" ubuntu to see if it comes up on the TV.  if that's the case then you know it's on your system (the issue)
[07:12] <lickalott> okay, g-night
[07:12] <nicklecoder> I'll try booting from usb to see if that works.
[07:12] <raspberrypifan> so theres a ubuntu for the pi?
[07:14] <xangua> raspberrypifan: not that I am aware of
[07:14] <raspberrypifan> ah
[07:14] <llutz> raspberrypifan: ubuntu supports only armv7++ not the rpi armv6
[07:14] <raspberrypifan> i thin i might like the new ubuntu seems or organized and straight forward
[07:14] <llutz> but well, there's raspbian...
[07:15] <TeamRocket1233c> 3.2.0-53-generic is 3.2.53, I assume?
[07:15] <TeamRocket1233c> Using that kernel in a 12.04 LTS VM.
[07:22] <Beldar> TeamRocket1233c, You having a problem?
[07:22] <TeamRocket1233c> Nope. Just a little confused on kernel versions.
[07:22] <bitoinc> meh
[07:22] <TeamRocket1233c> Not sure if I'm using 3.2.53 or just 3.2.0.
[07:22] <raspberrypifan> what is something like team viewer for uubnutu
[07:23] <Beldar> TeamRocket1233c, uname -a will tell you
[07:23] <bitoinc> whats the best linux distro?
[07:24] <TeamRocket1233c> bitoinc: dEPENDS ON PURPOSE.
[07:24] <Beldar> !best | bitoinc this is ubuntu support
[07:24] <TeamRocket1233c> *caps error
[07:24] <llutz> bitoinc: the one doing what you expect it to do for you
[07:25] <bitoinc> one thing?
[07:25] <TeamRocket1233c> bitoinc: If you want a completely cusotmized system that has the newest possible software, go for Arch.
[07:25] <TeamRocket1233c> bitoinc: If you want a good, stable distro that's relatively easy to use, go for Debian Stable.
[07:26] <TeamRocket1233c> bitoinc: If you want rock-solid stability and 10 years support, go for CentOS or Scienrific.
[07:26] <llutz> discus this please somewhere else, this is ubuntu-support
[07:26] <TeamRocket1233c> query bitoinc
[07:29] <bitoinc> the best distro is redhat
[07:29] <TeamRocket1233c> bitoinc: I queried you to continue the convo.
[07:29] <bitoinc> its the only one that people actually think its worth anything
[07:30] <vinse> hibernate works with TuxOnIce :D
[07:30] <TeamRocket1233c> bitoinc: Arch is pretty well liked, but a pain to set up.
[07:36] <zx42o> Hello, I've installed Ubuntu Desktop 12.04 LTS x64 to a USB harddrive with success however the internet connection is not working, I have searched the web for troubleshooting suggestions but have not found a working solution
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> zx42o: do you use eth cable or wifi?
[07:37] <zx42o> Eth
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> zx42o: what chipset is your eth card?
[07:38] <zx42o> From the beginning of install a message kept popping on screen saying to the effect of "Wired connection, you have been disconnected"
[07:38] <zx42o> realtek gbe lan
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> !realtek | zx42o
[07:39] <zx42o> awesome thank you
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> zx42o: you might wanna check realteks official website also for the lastest ubuntu drivers
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> zx42o: did you doublecheck your 'additional drivers' section if any drivers list?
[07:40] <zx42o> i did and nothing was listed however i just reinstalled let me check again
[07:41] <zx42o> ok well this time it says "Downloading packages indexes failed, please check your network status.  Most drivers will not be available."
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> zx42o: you can lshw -C network and check whats written after driver= (for your network card)
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> zx42o: yes would be nice to have an internet connection to download latest drivers of course
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> zx42o: you can also try to add cdrom/usb to your sources and find the right drivers from there
[07:42] <zx42o> description: Ethernet interface
[07:43] <zx42o> product: RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller
[07:43] <zx42o> vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co.
[07:43] <zx42o> physical id: 0
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> zx42o: what does driver= say?
[07:43] <zx42o> bus info: pci@0000:05:00.0
[07:44] <zx42o> there is not a driver=, at the bottom it says output may be incomplete or inaccurate, you should run this progam as superuser
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> zx42o: do you connect internet with another pc right now?
[07:44] <zx42o> sudo lshw -c network?
[07:44] <zx42o> yes a different pc
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> zx42o: try downloading latest realtek drivers for your card, and install it on the other machine
[07:45] <zx42o> im guessing i need to download the chipset drivers
[07:46] <zx42o> ok  thanks
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> zx42o: yes, after it installs you can update your machine
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> zx42o: http://askubuntu.com/questions/126227/12-04-wired-network-doesnt-work-rtl8111-8168b
[07:50] <dougbb> ok, thanks everyone for your help, I'm off to try some stuff
[07:55] <mikodo> How can I install * OpenGL 2 *  I have never had to do this before.
[07:55] <helmut_> hi
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> mikodo: do you have the latest grafix drivers installed for your card?
[07:58] <alokyadav15> Mikodo open terminal and type glxinfo
[07:58] <mikodo> lotuspsychje, NO
[07:58] <mikodo> alokyadav15, Okay
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> mikodo: whats your grafix card chipset plz?
[07:59] <mikodo> lotuspsychje, Is there a command I can run to get that info
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> mikodo: lshw -C video
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> mikodo: check product: and driver=
[08:02] <Multbrelch> Merry Christamas all !  - Q: I have 13.10 and it works very well! I want to create a new user but when I go on activate account it jumps back on 'account deactivated'. Any idea?
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> Multbrelch: did you unlock it with your sudo password?
[08:03] <Multbrelch> i did
[08:04] <alokyadav15> Multbrelch: add users using sudo useradd
[08:04] <Multbrelch> I could why is this interface not working?
[08:04] <llutz> easier to use "adduser"
[08:04] <mikodo> lotuspsychje,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6615934/
[08:04] <Multbrelch> hmmm
[08:04] <Multbrelch> llutz, alokyadav15, lotuspsychje  thanks
[08:05] <banana`> need a little help, i did a chown -R www:www /home/public_html and then chmod -R g:rw *, now 'groups dev' shows my user is in www, but he cant see any files in some (all?) of the subdirectories. seems to be able to list files in first subdirectory but not any deeper directories
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> mikodo: seems like you have correct driver for your intel card..why did you need opengl 2 for again?
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> mikodo: you trying a game or so?
[08:05] <Mithranb> while printing a document  0f 10 pages enabling the duplex fecility it printed in such a way that half part comes normally and after that printes  a  blank papper and then prints other skipping a page
[08:06] <llutz> banana`: directories need x (execute) permission for being accessed
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> Mithranb: what printer brand do you have?
[08:06] <Mithranb> waht should i have to do
[08:06] <Mithranb> hp laserjet M1005 MFP
[08:06] <mikodo> lotuspsychje, I installed kwin, on Xfce to invert inmages and it told me I need OpenGL 2 for it
[08:06] <llutz> banana`: your "chmod -R g:rw *"  removed x from files AND dirs
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> Mithranb: did you install hplip tools?
[08:07] <Multbrelch> Q again: with the interface the user already is created. How to activate now the user via adduser?
[08:07] <Mithranb> lotuspsychje: i dont know
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> Mithranb: install hplip tools from software centre, its more easy to support your printer
[08:07] <banana`> llutz: oh wow i didnt know that :>
[08:07] <Mithranb> lotuspsychje:  how to find that is it installed or not?
[08:07] <llutz> banana`: find /home/public_html -type d | xargs chmod g+x       as root
[08:07] <Mithranb> ok
[08:07] <banana`> llutz: ty will try that
[08:08] <lotuspsychje> mikodo: kwin is the correct packagename?
[08:08] <mikodo> lotuspsychje, actually I installed Kubuntu on Xubuntu then tried to run the inverse in Kwin when I got th message to get OpenGL 2
[08:08] <alokyadav15> Mikodo it seems you have core2duo or core2quad CPU
[08:09] <banana`> llutz: ahh this is much better :>
[08:09] <mikodo> alokyadav15, Yes! a Quad
[08:09] <Mithranb> lotuspsychje: anywaya i am triying
[08:09] <Mithranb> lotuspsychje: thank yokel
[08:09] <Mithranb> you
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> Mithranb: no prob, hope it helps your printing issue
[08:12] <Multbrelch> Solution: I deleted the user and recreated a new one with adduser
[08:12] <Multbrelch> MERRY CHRISTMAS ALL
[08:12] <Multbrelch> cu
[08:14] <Mithran> another problem  my network do not give permission to irc freenode how can i bypass it. They are using the firewall kerio controll
[08:14] <hkr> Proxy.
[08:14] <Mithran> network admibnistrator do not give permission to irc freenode how can i bypass it. They are using the firewall kerio controll
[08:14] <mikodo> Here's my computer:   http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ca/en/ho/WF06b/12132708-12133156-12133158-12133158-12133158-80626463-81225089.html?dnr=2
[08:15] <hkr> Wow. Genuine Vista Premium.
[08:15] <llutz> mikodo: so ask your admins to allow it. we dont support breaking companies rules
[08:15] <hkr> Thats the best OS ever.
[08:16] <mikodo> llutz, What admins, it's my computer at home. What am I missing?
[08:17] <llutz> mikodo: sry wrong nick
[08:17] <llutz> Mithran: so ask your admins to allow it. we dont support breaking companies rules
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> hkr: this is an ubuntu support channel, join ##windows for vista talk
[08:19] <banana`> whats the solution to not having a root pw for postgres and when you try to open psql it says "root has no role, exiting"? i just installed from cmd line -- i'm thinking i have to use initdb but not sure?
[08:20] <Mithran> llutz: i always ask them and some times they grand permission but they are using the trial version of kerio controll so every month they had to reinstall it to make it effective. then we loss our previous grands.
[08:21] <llutz> Mithran: so you have to ask them again and again. by bypassing companies firewall/breaking their rules you might risk your job.
[08:21] <Mithran> llutz:  ohhhhhhh
[08:21] <Mithran> llutz:  Thanks
[08:22] <llutz> Mithran: in serious busines those rules aren't jokes
[08:22] <Mithran> llutz: no i am not jocking
[08:22] <Mithran> llutz: actually they are using the cracked vertion of kerio controll
[08:23] <llutz> no serious business then ... still not supported here
[08:23] <Mithran> llutz: but i dont know how to bypass it
[08:24] <Mithran> llutz:  thats y i asked it here
[08:26] <Mithran> i dont know how to bypass kerio controll fiirewall in a local network
[08:26] <lelele> how do you set the minimum VT for desktop managers to start? both lightdm and xdm starts at VT1. never did before
[08:26] <Mithran> can anybody help me?
[08:28] <Mithran> please help me . i dont know how to bypass kerio controll fiirewall in a local network
[08:30] <banana`> just use webchat.freenode.net
[08:30] <banana`> in da browser
[08:32] <aeon-ltd> Mithran: why?
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> i have a samsung .exe firmware that i need to uncompress with ubuntu, any package could open this?
[08:37] <aeon-ltd> lotuspsychje: i remeber doing something like this with cabextract or similar application
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> !info cabextract
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> aeon-ltd: tnx lemme try mate
[08:38] <oleg> Freenode
[08:40] <raj1991raj> can any one suggest me how to deal with a oversmart ubuntu user, i hope you would understand what i mean, and plz pm me
[08:40] <aeon-ltd> raj1991raj: gonna need more context
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> aeon-ltd: lotuspsychje@RooTBooK:~/Downloads$ cabextract T-GAP8DEUC-1029.0.exe
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> T-GAP8DEUC-1029.0.exe: no valid cabinets found
[08:41] <raj1991raj> aeon-ltd: what does it mea
[08:41] <llutz> lotuspsychje: try unapck
[08:41] <raj1991raj> mean*
[08:41] <llutz> unpack
[08:41] <raj1991raj> aeon-ltd: can i pm you
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> llutz: lemme try
[08:42] <lotuspsychje> !info unpack
[08:42] <lotuspsychje> llutz: doesnt find this package
[08:42] <lotuspsychje> llutz: got rar and unrar installed, doesnt wanna open in nautilus
[08:42] <llutz> !info unp | lotuspsychje
[08:42] <lotuspsychje> oh tnx
[08:42] <llutz> lotuspsychje: sorry had wrong name in mind
[08:43] <hkr> When will Ubuntu 14 be released officially ?
[08:43] <aeon-ltd> raj1991raj: explain more to the channel, don't pm me. keeping it here means there will be more users to help you
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> llutz: yes! it worked mate Extracting from T-GAP8DEUC-1029.0.exe
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> llutz: tnx alot!
[08:44] <raj1991raj> aeon-ltd: its an hacker trying to ping me, i have met it twice. so i thought i could answer him in his own way, but unfortunately i am not a hacker.
[08:45] <llutz> raj1991raj: whats the problem with a ping?
[08:46] <raj1991raj> llutz: i dont know his intention
[08:46] <raj1991raj> llutz: he wants me to click a link
[08:46] <aeon-ltd> you just need to visual basic the gui so i can distract them to ping their ip using 2 people on one keyboard then pull the power to the monitor to kill the link
[08:46] <banana`> raj1991raj: send me all your bitcoins i will hold them in case he hacks u
[08:46] <banana`> :>
[08:47] <eden> d
[08:47] <raj1991raj> banana`: well kidding
[08:47] <eden> Anyone knows the name of the icons here? http://www.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-With-Ribbon-206199111
[08:47] <banana`> :>
[08:47] <aeon-ltd> eden: there's a link in the decription
[08:47] <aeon-ltd> *description
[08:47] <eden> not working
[08:48] <banana`> eden: yea those are nice ^_^
[08:48] <eden> aeon-ltd, i meant it works but it's definitely not those i have them
[08:48] <banana`> eden: i think they are http://tiheum.deviantart.com/art/Faenza-Icons-173323228
[08:49] <llutz> raj1991raj: you are admin and he's one of your employes? warn him, fire him. it's just a boy from down the street? ignore him
[08:49] <eden> banana`, nah i don't think so look firefox for example
[08:50] <banana`> maybe its the iceweasel icon
[08:50] <raj1991raj> llutz: that wouldn't be interesting.
[08:51] <banana`> eden: http://www.deviantart.com/users/outgoing?http://uploaded.to/file/k1drw8v5  its in the comments actually
[08:51] <eden> banana`, it's broken
[08:51] <banana`> ooo
[08:52] <Sonderblade> is there a way with apt-get to check what repository a package was installed from?
[08:54] <raj1991raj> llutz: the matter is not about clicking on a link, its about someone wants to hack your pc. will you just let him go, or beat a shit out of him.(If you can)
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> llutz: tnx again mate, im upgrading my smarttv now with success
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | llutz
[08:55] <aeon-ltd> raj1991raj: dude, how about this show us the message
[08:55] <llutz> raj1991raj: make sure your system is configured correct and lean back.
[08:55] <Wizar> i woke up to see ubuntu screen filled with random colors, latest thing i did was installing latest version of virtualbox from site,
[08:55] <Wizar> rebooting result in black screen or black screen with some garbage , ctrl-f1 and working in terminal works fine, i did uninstall virtualbox ( not sure if it was a problem in first place, now it boots to  random parts of my desktop ploted around random locations of my screen, in minimal resolution,  its not gpu beacuse im running windows curently on same machine
[08:56] <llutz> raj1991raj: if you really feel attacked, send his ISP an abuse-report
[08:56] <raj1991raj> llutz: wish i knew his ISP, i am not a hacker like him
[08:57] <TeamRocket1233c> As far as LTS not using FF ESR, I assume there's an FF ESR PPA like there is an FF Nightly and FF Aurora PPA.
[08:57] <aeon-ltd> raj1991raj: are there a lot of isps in ahmedabad?
[08:57] <Wizar> is there any way to reset graphic system to resonable defaults?
[08:58] <aeon-ltd> Wizar: uninstall and purge all drivers? reinstall X?
[08:58] <aeon-ltd> raj1991raj: can we see this ping message?
[08:58] <raj1991raj> aeon-ltd: i dont know where he is from
[08:59] <TeamRocket1233c> Because for some reason ESR seems more appropriate on 12.04 or 14.04 than stable.
[08:59] <raj1991raj> aeon-ltd: he smply wants me click on a link
[08:59] <aeon-ltd> raj1991raj: can we see a screenshot?
[08:59] <llutz> raj1991raj: may i ask how old you are?
[09:00] <raj1991raj> llutz: why does it matter
[09:00] <aeon-ltd> 1991...
[09:00] <raj1991raj> aeon-ltd: is  smart
[09:00] <aeon-ltd> ...
[09:01] <llutz> raj1991raj: because this sound more like 2001
[09:01] <aeon-ltd> the screenshot is because i'm interested to see how they are doing this
[09:01] <aksmda> does anybody know if wibom is working up to date (Wine Emulator)
[09:01] <raj1991raj> aeon-ltd: its just a link to some random image
[09:02] <raj1991raj> scontent-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1452415_251226931695551_1642428427_n.jpg this is his link
[09:02] <raj1991raj> i wonder what it is
[09:02] <aeon-ltd> but how are you recieving this?
[09:03] <aeon-ltd> fbcdn facebook content distribution network...
[09:04] <aksmda> forget it im gonna try dosbox
[09:09] <raj1991raj> aeon-ltd: i think he has some bad intention thats why he keeps on making a damn stupid story about a thin girl who wants to be fat, and keeps talking to me
[09:10] <aeon-ltd> raj1991raj: but how is he doing this?
[09:10] <llutz> raj1991raj: could you please stop that childish nonsense here. this is ubuntu-support channel, do you have any related question?
[09:11] <raj1991raj> aeon-ltd: i dont know, he is here in irc and pmming all the users
[09:11] <llutz>  /join #freenode and complain raj1991raj
[09:12] <raj1991raj> llutz: very funny, he is there in freenode
[09:12] <raj1991raj> llutz: i am not kid you kiddo
[09:12] <llutz> and? ask the ops to stop him ra
[09:13] <raj1991raj> llutz: if i do that he will surely take action, and i am pretty sure he is smart enough to do that
[09:13] <llutz> !ot | raj1991raj
[09:13] <aeon-ltd> wut?
[09:14] <aeon-ltd> raj1991raj: sounds like a troll, mostly harmless
[09:14] <Reg__> Hi. i wanna learn inside out of linux how it works. Like what are libraris, system call, how network communication takes place etc. is there a structured source available to learn this. in the sense a structured book to teach all this.
[09:15] <the_drow> Hi, I'm trying to install redis from this PPA https://launchpad.net/~chris-lea/+archive/redis-server and after I add it and sudo apt-get update I still can't install it using sudo apt-get install redis
[09:15] <average> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvMiXk2gGSk
[09:15] <the_drow> Can anyone confirm that this is the case on their end as well
[09:19] <the_drow> Hmm that's strange. It replaces redis-server and yet the package name on launchpad is redis
[09:21] <imghost> the_drow, did you notice the ppa? its written redis-server
[09:22] <the_drow> imghost: but the package's name is redis no?
[09:22] <imghost> the_drow, i opened the link its clearly written redis-server on the top of the page
[09:23] <the_drow> But see the list of packages below
[09:23] <imghost> the_drow, contact chris lea :)
[09:23] <the_drow> Is he here?
[09:25] <imghost> the_drow, do this login at launchapd and put one comment regarding this:) so that creater of this ppa will assists you:)
[09:26] <imghost> the_drow, 3rd party ppas are not supported here :)
[09:33] <kdz> hi
[09:34] <xyz> need to install ubuntu precise on a desktop, but the PC refuses to recognize the installer media. The only error message it gives is "Boot error : no boot device"
[09:34] <xyz> the same install media works fine on another machine
[09:37] <imghost> xyz, are you using uefi?
[09:38] <banana`> anyone know if you can install ubuntu from an iso w/ daemon tools on windows, can i just nuke windows somehow but keep it long enuf to install a real os
[09:38] <xyz> imghost: I don't think so. its and old PC, and win 7 install works fine
[09:40] <imghost> xyz, ok, dual boot?
[09:40] <xyz> imghost: even regular boot doesn't work. just trying to boot the startup disk here
[09:42] <imghost> xyz, try to repair the grub boot loader
[09:42] <xyz> imghost: I can't boot into live environment...
[09:43] <average> xyz: what error ?
[09:43] <average> xyz: ah I see
[09:43] <average> xyz: did you set boot order in BIOS ?
[09:43] <xyz> yes
[09:43] <average> are you sure ?
[09:44] <xyz> yes
[09:44] <xyz> otherwise it boots into windows from HDD
[09:44] <imghost> xyz, did you create a seperate partition for ubuntu?
[09:45] <average> banana`: I don't think I've ever seen that thing with daemon tools. I usually just write the iso on a usb stick with unetbootin or usb-creator-gtk and then I reboot and install ...
[09:45] <xyz> imghost: I would, if the pendrive booted up
[09:46] <banana`> average: yea thats a good idea, would be so nice to fresh intall without burning cds tho
[09:46] <imghost> xyz, try to repair your boot from windows installation media
[09:47] <xyz> imghost: the HDD boots fine. win 7 installer boots fine, but precise refuses to boot
[09:48] <imghost> xyz, try to boot it  with dvd
[09:48] <xyz> imghost: tried that too
[09:48] <xyz> works in laptop, but not in target machine
[09:49] <bioman> Hello
[09:49] <bioman> Just tried Xfce 4.11
[09:49] <Dudytz> hi all! the /etc/fstab is used to mount the file systems. It's possible to mantain only the file /etc/fstab file in the etc dir of root dir and mount the really /etc to another partition?
[09:49] <imghost> xyz, both the machines are of same architecture ? i mean both 32 or both 64 bits?
[09:49] <bioman> Please how to get unfied fonts ? (the icons font is different than the one you have in appearance)
[09:50] <xyz> imghost: both are 64bit
[09:51] <bioman> using xunbuntu 13.10
[09:51] <llutz> Dudytz: that would need more than just fstab, there are more scripts and configs in involved in bootprocess residing in /etc
[09:52] <llutz> Dudytz: check the init-scripts, all stuff running before mountall is finished would be needed (afaik)
[09:52] <imghost> xyz, update your bios, because you are not able to boot from cd, usb so i think there is problem in bios settings only
[09:52] <bioman> nobody ?
[09:52] <xyz> imghost: but win7 install boots :/
[09:53] <imghost> xyz, from hdd right? but not from usb or dvd right?
[09:54] <xyz> imghost: win7 is installed in HDD. and I have win7 installer in USB too. both work
[09:54] <pangpond> ??
[09:54] <imghost> xyz, both works??
[09:55] <xyz> but Ubuntu USB / DVD both fail
[09:55] <imghost> xyz, try to download the 12.04.3lts again from ubuntu website and make the live usb, dvd once again
[09:56] <cristian_c> Hi
[09:56] <kdz> anyone here that can help wit rtorrent
[09:57] <MonkeyDust> kdz  let's hear it
[09:57] <cristian_c> How can I change coding in a webpage in a browser, for example chromium?
[09:57] <cristian_c> a .txt file
[09:57] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[09:58] <MonkeyDust> !html | cristian_c
[09:58] <imghost> xyz, did you insert the usb on your windows7? its might possible that antivirus of your win7 deleted files from the usb so make it again
[09:58] <average> cristian_c: F12
[09:58] <cristian_c> MonkeyDust, utf-8, iso, ecc...? :O
[09:58] <average> cristian_c: get the inspector, change whatever...
[09:58] <cristian_c> average, ok
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> kdz: did you try transmission?
[09:59] <kdz> nope
[09:59] <average> kdz: what help do you need with rtorrent ?
[09:59] <kdz> have rutorrent and rtorrent installed already
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> !info transmission | kdz
[09:59] <average> kdz: and why are you using rtorrnet ?
[09:59] <average> kdz: it's mostly for console...
[09:59] <kdz> im using console
[09:59] <average> kdz: ok, and what help do you need with it ?
[09:59] <kdz> rtorrent and rutorrent
[10:00] <kdz> ok so i set up multiple users
[10:00] <kdz> the main users, main1 it works via web interface
[10:00] <cristian_c> average, which tab?
[10:00] <kdz> main2 complaines about scgi port error
[10:00] <average> cristian_c: press the magnifying glass and select an element on the page
[10:00] <kdz> in browser
[10:01] <bioman> Anybody uses Xubuntu with Xfce 4.11 ?
[10:02] <cristian_c> average, whatever elements?
[10:03] <cristian_c> average, but it's the Find function
[10:03] <cristian_c> :O
[10:03] <aeon-ltd> bioman: somebody does, ask your next question
[10:04] <average> cristian_c: https://developers.google.com/chrome-developer-tools/docs/console#inspecting_dom_elements_and_javascript_heap_objects
[10:04] <kdz> average did you get my replies?
[10:04] <average> cristian_c: https://developers.google.com/chrome-developer-tools/
[10:04] <average> kdz: yes, uhm..
[10:04] <average> kdz: I don't have rutorrent installed
[10:04] <bioman> aeon-ltd: I've asked my question, font issue
[10:04] <average> kdz: I use rtorrent. You told me you use rtorrent in a console...
[10:05] <kdz> and rutorrent
[10:05] <average> kdz: now you're telling me you use a web frontend for it...
[10:05] <kdz> ok well i should add im like 1 week new to ubuntu
[10:05] <kdz> so i may not understand your comments/questions
[10:05] <cristian_c> average, and then?
[10:06] <average> cristian_c: and then read those pages, and learn how to use chrome
[10:06] <cristian_c> avelldiroll, ok, but I don't see something related to the coding
[10:07] <cristian_c> average, ok, but I don't see something related to the coding
[10:07] <average> cristian_c: what do you mean coding ? do you mean *en* coding ?
 MonkeyDust, utf-8, iso, ecc...? :O
[10:07] <average> what's "coding" ?
[10:08] <cristian_c> *etc
[10:08] <average> cristian_c: see here how to change the encoding https://support.google.com/news/answer/61689?hl=en
[10:09] <cristian_c> ok
[10:09] <average> cristian_c: and ask chrome questions in the chrome channel, not here
[10:09] <average> cristian_c: this is #ubuntu , did you know that ?
[10:09] <aeon-ltd> bioman: generally desktop environments have appearence managers which handles fonts, though applications can set their own fonts
[10:10] <cristian_c> average, I'm using chromium
[10:10] <bioman> aeon-ltd: ?
[10:10] <aeon-ltd> bioman: like this http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-settings/appearance
[10:10] <average> cristian_c: chromium channel, same thing. did you notice that this is #ubuntu ?
[10:11] <cristian_c> average, ok, I'll ask in the chromium-channel
[10:11] <cristian_c> --
[10:11] <average> ok great
[10:11] <banana`> anyone have an opinion on redis over mysql and postgres? my use case is a high traffic sharded server that would be great if it was backed up like every change (or version control or something) i was going to shard it, IDK.. storing tons of records, of small data, not large records
[10:12] <bioman> aeon-ltd: okay, but why changing font in appearance won't change for icons
[10:12] <average> banana`: try both, and decide later
[10:12] <banana`> average: word
[10:13] <average> banana`: you wrote very little details about your db schema or what data you store or structure...
[10:13] <average> wessssssss: look who's here !
[10:13] <aeon-ltd> bioman: hmmm.. were they unified before?
[10:13] <wessssssss> so,
[10:13] <average> wessssssss: were you able to make that work ?
[10:13] <bioman> aeon-ltd: with 4.10, yep
[10:13] <wessssssss> not sure if it worked or not
[10:13] <average> wessssssss: ?
[10:13] <wessssssss> well, i logged in
[10:14] <average> wessssssss: and ?
[10:14] <wessssssss> and my old ubuntu still seemed to be there
[10:14] <wessssssss> still cant update
[10:14] <banana`> average: its just a ton of tiny records (txt/ints) and 10s millions of rows
[10:14] <wessssssss> so i logged out
[10:14] <wessssssss> logged back in
[10:14] <average> wessssssss: well did you install a new one ?
[10:14] <wessssssss> but this time selected
[10:14] <santa_> banananannanannanna
[10:14] <wessssssss> ubuntu 2d
[10:14] <wessssssss> at the log in screen
[10:15] <average> banana`: dude, that's not enough to know the db schema, do you understand ?
[10:15] <wessssssss> and it seems like a new account
[10:15] <banana`> average: ive never sharded on mysql, but it would be great to replicate the db.. sharding/replication on mysql seems kinda hard
[10:15] <wessssssss> but
[10:15] <wessssssss> my old background screen is still there
[10:15] <average> banana`: that's like very loosely worded "I have a db with tiny records txt ints strings" <[10:15] <banana`> not really
[10:15] <average> yes really
[10:15] <average> now either you describe what you have or stop asking
[10:15] <banana`> what if they are binary blobs ;d
[10:15] <wessssssss> i click the gear in the upper right
[10:16] <wessssssss> it says software is up to date
[10:16] <average> banana`: if they are binary blobs then you go to #mysql or #postgres or #redis and ask there
[10:16] <banana`> coolio
[10:16] <wessssssss> so im kind of concfused
[10:16] <wessssssss> *cornfused
[10:17] <average> wessssssss: did you install it on the same disk ? did you nuke your old install or something ?
[10:17] <ObrienDave> bioman, log out then back in for font change to take effect
[10:17] <wessssssss> i just booted from the usb
[10:17] <average> wessssssss: I was assuming you would nuke your disk and reinstall from scratch with the usb disk ..
[10:17] <wessssssss> ran the install
[10:17] <wessssssss> ooooh
[10:17] <average> wessssssss: so did you install from usb ? cause you're supposed to install from the usb . if you just booted from it, that's just the live ubuntu you're running..
[10:17] <wessssssss> well i didnt want to loose my windows
[10:18] <wessssssss> so i didnt format the disc
[10:18] <average> wessssssss: if you don't wanna loose your windows, then just nuke your non-ntfs and non-fat32 partitions
[10:18] <wessssssss> ooooh ok
[10:18] <JoFo> Hello
[10:18] <average> JoFo: hey, what's new ?
[10:18] <wessssssss> can i do that from windows?
[10:18] <aeon-ltd> bioman: you can override stuff in .gtkrc-2.0 do you have anything in the file that might change fonts?
[10:19] <average> wessssssss: no you cannot. but you can do it in the ubuntu install proces at one of the steps. it will recommend you "erase everything" or "erase ubuntu" or "manual" and you go for manual
[10:19] <wessssssss> ok
[10:19] <wessssssss> thats easy enough
[10:20] <average> yep
[10:20] <wessssssss> how about th is
[10:20] <wessssssss> what if i went into windows
[10:20] <average> yes, what if ?
[10:20] <wessssssss> erased my ntfs 60gb partition that i originally thought was going to be for ubuntu
[10:20] <wessssssss> would that be available during the install?
[10:21] <average> you don't really want to install ubuntu on an ntfs partition
[10:21] <wessssssss> right,
[10:21] <Sonderblade> how do you solve this apt-get problem: libcairo2-dev : Dependent of: libcairo2 (= 1.10.2-6.1ubuntu3) but 1.10.2-6.1ubuntu3ppa2 will be installed?
[10:21] <wessssssss> which is why i would erase the partition
[10:21] <wessssssss> and just leave it open
[10:22] <cristian_c> average, ok, I've displayed the different endings for a .txt in a browser, but I don't know how to convert it with gedit
[10:22] <average> you want to install ubuntu on an ext4/ext3/ext2 partition, and have a swap partition which is twice the size of your ram memory size. <[10:22] <cristian_c> average, gedit doesn't open it correctly
[10:22] <average> wessssssss: ^^
[10:22]  * TeamRocket1233c uses Archbang as his main OS, but installs Ubuntu and Debian in Vbox to mess with occasionally.
[10:22] <JoFo> I’ve tried to install scim anthy on Ubuntu 13.10, but all I was able to get was an im (I don’t know its name) which allowed me to type any character from its hexadecimal Unicode number. I haven’t been able to fet a rōmaji → hiragana → kana + kanji conversion and, the cherry on the cake, I was unable to use my keyboard dead keys.
[10:22] <wessssssss> ok
[10:23] <JoFo> Anybody using Anthy with SCIM on Ubuntu 13.10?
[10:23] <TeamRocket1233c> Anyways, G2G. Almost 4am.
[10:23] <average> cristian_c: hey listen. this is #ubuntu , it's not #chromium nor is it #chrome. you wanna get your question answered, it's important for you, then go to #chromium or #chrome and ask there. ok ?
[10:23] <wessssssss> thanks so much for the help, average.  don't you ever sleep?
[10:24] <cristian_c> average, but if I ask this question (about gedit) they send me back here
[10:24] <mnemon> Sonderblade: by not using 3rd party ppas or finding one that includes the -dev too :)
[10:24] <average> wessssssss: I don't sleep, I have mountains of work to do
[10:24] <cristian_c> average, they don't deal with text editors
[10:24] <wessssssss> ok, well ill try again
[10:24] <average> wessssssss: and I can't get any weed/pot because I live in eastern europe so that sucks really bad..
[10:25] <wessssssss> ttyl
[10:25] <Sonderblade> mnemon: how does that solve my current problem?
[10:26] <mnemon> Sonderblade: disable the 3rd party ppa that *ppa2 package is from, install the normal libcairo2, install libcairo2-dev -> solved.
[10:26] <mnemon> but i don't know what you're using it for ..
[10:26] <average> cristian_c: you know why they're not helping you ? because you don't know how to state your problem
[10:27] <average> cristian_c: let me break this down for you. your problem has nothing to do with browsers
[10:27] <average> cristian_c: you have a text file which has a particular encoding right ? and you want to convert it to a different encoding
[10:27] <average> cristian_c: is that correct ?
[10:27] <cristian_c> average, yes
[10:28] <average> cristian_c: that is great
[10:28] <Sonderblade> mnemon: that ppa already is disabled
[10:28] <mnemon> Sonderblade: you need to reinstall the libcairo2 package then
[10:28] <cristian_c> average, I've got a .txt file written in iso-8859-15
[10:28] <bioman> aeon-ltd: not at all
[10:28] <average> cristian_c: now listen here
[10:29] <average> cristian_c: there is something that does what you want. it's called iconv
[10:29] <cristian_c> average, browser displays it correctly, gedit doesn't
[10:29] <cristian_c> ok
[10:29] <average> cristian_c: dude, don't let me catch you writing the word "browser" in this conversation again, ok ? we already established this has nothing to do with your browser
[10:29] <average> cristian_c: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/en/man1/iconv.1.html
[10:29] <cristian_c> it's a different visualization
[10:30] <mnemon> Sonderblade: you could also try something like apt-get -f install libcairo2-dev ...
[10:30] <cristian_c> I'll try with iconv
[10:30] <Sonderblade> mnemon: apt-get says reinstallation of libcairo2 is not possible
[10:30] <average> cristian_c: what's the original encoding of the file ?
 average, I've got a .txt file written in iso-8859-15
[10:31] <cristian_c> I think that if I convert to utf-8, text will be displayed correctly
[10:31] <average> cristian_c: how do you know it's iso-8859-15 ?
[10:31] <average> cristian_c: waaaaait..
[10:31] <average> cristian_c: how do you know it's iso-8859-15 ?
[10:32] <average> cristian_c: is that a guess or.. ?
[10:32] <cristian_c> average, Save as in gedit, for example
[10:32] <average> ok, so you don't know it's iso-8859-15
[10:32] <cristian_c> Occidental
[10:33] <cristian_c> average, no, I jnow
[10:33] <cristian_c> *know
[10:33] <average> how do you know ?
[10:33] <bekks> cristian_c: How do you know?
[10:33] <cristian_c> average, yes
[10:33] <average> yes what ?
[10:33] <cristian_c> *bekks, yes
[10:33] <cristian_c> sorry
[10:33] <average> cristian_c: ok let's cut this short
 average, Save as in gedit, for example
[10:33] <average> do        curl -v <url_of_file>
[10:33] <cristian_c> ok
[10:33] <average> look in the response headers for the header "Content-Encoding"
[10:34] <average> and tell me what the response encoding is
[10:34] <bekks> cristian_c: That how you want it to be saved, not how it gets saved.
[10:34] <arunkumar413> how to instlall oracle java
[10:34] <average> cristian_c: the response headers are the ones starting with <
[10:34] <bekks> !jdk | arunkumar413
[10:34] <cristian_c> bekks, no, I can change, but it detected automatically
[10:34] <bekks> !java | arunkumar413
[10:34] <cristian_c> the encoding
[10:35] <VitoCorleone> Hi.
[10:35] <bekks> cristian_c: Then you dont even know how it gets saved since it overwrites your choice.
[10:35] <average> cristian_c: no it didn't detect
[10:35] <arunkumar413> jdk, jre they're confusing a lot
[10:36] <bekks> arunkumar413: Java Development Kit and Java Runtime Environment. JDK & JRE. Not that confusing.
[10:36] <average> arunkumar413: use the ppa repository http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[10:36] <average> arunkumar413: follow that stuff and you'll have jdk and jre real fast
[10:36] <average> cristian_c: did you try that curl command ?
[10:37] <mnemon> Sonderblade: if nothing else works, download the current version and dpkg --force install it(see dpkg --force-help, might break things if you have other packages installed that depend on the ppa version).
[10:38] <average> cristian_c: here's an alternative, if there is no Content-Encoding response header. Use enca which is an encoding analyzer. You can find it in the enca package in ubuntu. It will try to guess the encoding for you. It's not 100% .
[10:38] <cristian_c> average, yes i've tried that command
[10:38] <average> cristian_c: what did you get ?
 cristian_c: no it didn't detect
[10:39] <average> cristian_c: which command ? enca or curl ?
[10:39] <bekks> cristian_c: Whats the output of "file yourtextfile"?
[10:40] <cristian_c> If I click on Open in gedit, I find in the bottom: chars encoding, auto-recognition
[10:40] <Sonderblade> mnemon: sudo aptitude install libcairo2=1.10.2-6.1ubuntu3 did work, but it's weird that i had to add the version specifier
[10:41] <average> cristian_c: yeah, and gedit doesn't guess the encoding correctly, cause that's why it doesn't show up correctly because that's why you're here asking us stuff right ?
[10:41] <cristian_c> average, I've checked in the output of the curl command, but I don't find Content-Encoding in the header
[10:41] <mnemon> Sonderblade: probably didn't want to downgrade :P
[10:41] <bekks> cristian_c: Forget gedit for encoding detection.
[10:41] <average> gedit sucks
[10:42] <average> use enca to detect the encoding
[10:42] <cristian_c> bekks, I'll try with the 'file' command
[10:42] <bekks> cristian_c: Whats the output of "enca yourfilename" and "file yourfilename"?
[10:43] <average> cristian_c: are you planning on answering bekks question ?
[10:43] <Sonderblade> mnemon: i think it should have done that when it saw that i had removed the ppa
[10:43] <cristian_c> bekks, modulowordpad.txt: Non-ISO extended-ASCII text, with CRLF line terminators
[10:44] <bekks> cristian_c: So its not ISO-8859-1 at all.
[10:44] <average> :)
[10:44] <bekks> cristian_c: Basically it's some weird mess gedit produced.
[10:44] <cristian_c> bekks, I'll try with enca command
[10:44] <bekks> cristian_c: USe a sane editor, enca will not magically change the encoding.
[10:45] <cristian_c> I'm installing enca
[10:45] <average> great
[10:45] <bekks> finally.
[10:47] <cristian_c> enca: Language `it' is unknown or not supported.
[10:48] <arunkumar413> average: getting this error: http://pastebin.com/T6VDcdcP
[10:48] <average> cristian_c: can you write the url here ?
[10:48] <MonkeyDust> from apt-cache show enca: "Currently it supports Belarusian, Bulgarian, Croatian, Czech, Estonian, Hungarian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Polish, Russian, Slovak, Slovene, Ukrainian, Chinese, and some multibyte encodings independently on language."
[10:49] <linea> how i set rsyslog.conf
[10:49] <cristian_c> average, this is the url: http://spazioweb.inwind.it/flaccessori/moduli/modulowordpad.txt
[10:49] <average> arunkumar413:
[10:49] <average> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[10:49] <average> arun@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get -f install oracle-java7-installer
[10:49] <average> arunkumar413: ^^ so it told you to run without parameters, but you insisting running the same command with parameters
[10:49] <average> arunkumar413: you are stubborn
[10:49] <average> arunkumar413: sudo apt-get -f install
[10:49] <cristian_c> once downloaded the .txt file, I've to open it in a text editor correctly
[10:49] <average> arunkumar413: no parameters
[10:50] <linea> hi
[10:51] <arunkumar413> average: tried that but no use
[10:51] <average> arunkumar413: whatever
[10:51] <linea> i want  configure rsyslog.conf on ubuntu12.04
[10:51] <average> arunkumar413: that's where I install my jdk and jre and it works fine. if it doesn't work for you, tough luck (try with openjdk instead)
[10:53] <arunkumar413> average: without the parameter still getting the error: http://pastebin.com/Lfr2tQYa
[10:53] <average> arunkumar413: whatever, deal with it
[10:54] <average> arunkumar413: you still ran it with a parameter instead of no parameters as I told you
[10:54] <average> arunkumar413: I don't know what part you don't understand
[10:54] <average> arunkumar413: no parameters. no parameters. what is so hard to understand about that ?
[10:55] <arunkumar413> by parameter u mean to say -f or oracle-java7-installer
[10:55] <cristian_c> average, ok, I've solved. I've added an encoding in gedit. It was displayed correctly with Windows-1252, Occidental
[10:55] <average> arunkumar413: what do you think I mean to say ?
[10:56] <gguu> hi. i use gentoo, but i found a description on a ubuntu site and i hope the ubuntu people can help me better. i want to save my vhs video. i play the videos with vlc (http://pastebin.com/Z9AEmggW) and it works fine but i don't have any sound. in /dev/ i can not find "alsa" but i have a new mixer - mixer1. how can i start the vlc with this mixer? in other way , i  use this description http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/EasyCAP_DC60_USB_Audio_un
[10:56] <average> cristian_c: great, at least now you know it wasn't iso-8859-15
[10:56] <gguu> cat /proc/asound/cards and i dont have "1 controlle". what can i do? sorry for my english
[10:57] <arunkumar413> average: -f
[10:57] <average> gguu: chmod 777 all your sound devices
[10:57] <average> gguu: use gnome-sound-applet and go in there and select the correct device for output
[10:57] <gguu> average: what are my sound devices? mixer and mixer1?
[10:57] <average> gguu: make sure you can playback a video that has audio and you hear stuff on your speaker/headphones/whatever
[10:58] <average> arunkumar413: really ? -f ?
[10:58] <cristian_c> average, maybe you hate it, but the browser display correctly with iso-8859-1 and windows-1252, but not utf-8
[10:58] <cristian_c> all the three encodings are Occidental
[10:58] <cristian_c> :)
[10:58] <gguu> average: i am sure my vhs has audio but i don't know how to play the video that i hear audio
[10:59] <average> what's a vhs ? is that a format ?
[10:59] <average> i never heard that acronym before
[10:59] <cristian_c> the text editor displays correctly the file only with windows-1252
[10:59] <average> is it a video cassette player ?
[10:59] <gguu> yes, it is a video cassette player
[10:59]  * kdz pvts average
[11:00] <kdz> still not getting this rutorrent going
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> vhs, pure nostalgia :)
[11:00] <Guest40331> Hello Please, I want to help, I have a phone iphone and worked his mise a jour turns off after began working ignites image apple and goes off on this topic, and so the case, the solution please
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> !iphone | Guest40331 try here
[11:01] <gguu> average: and i use this description wiki.ubuntuusers.de/EasyCAP_DC60_USB_Audio_und_Videograbber my first problem ist the line "cat /proc/asound/cards". i don't have the "1 controlle"
[11:02] <arunkumar413> I've tried removing both  -f and oracle-java7-installer. its not working
[11:05] <average> gguu: that vhs is above me. I recommend you take it to a store and tell them to give you back a video like .mp4 , or .avi or .wmv or something that you can work with
[11:06] <average> gguu: unless your video is super-private and you don't want other people to see it...
[11:06] <gguu> average: i try to do it myself
[11:06] <gguu> with my grabber
[11:07] <arunkumar413> average: http://pastebin.com/wgQtkZ0c
[11:09] <average> arunkumar413: sudo aptitude update
[11:09] <average> arunkumar413: sudo aptitude install linux-generic
[11:09] <linea> how to edit rsyslog.conf
[11:09] <average> arunkumar413: sudo apt-get -f install
[11:09] <average> linea: with a text editor
[11:09] <linea> am using ubuntu12.04
[11:10] <average> linea: sudo nano /etc/rsyslog.conf
[11:10] <linea> i want configure rsyslog server
[11:10] <linea> i have central server and client server
[11:10] <average> linea: if you don't know how to open a text file, how are you going to manage configuring a log server I wonder...
[11:10] <MonkeyDust> linea  is that a 12.04 server? if yes, try #ubuntu-server -- also: choose one of these links https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+rsyslog.conf
[11:12] <average> gguu: maybe try to connect the SCART of your VHS to some video input on your machine and the audio output of your VHS to the audio input of your machine
[11:12] <envykumar> hi
[11:12] <average> gguu: first try to play the sound in some way.. and make sure you can make the sound work
[11:12] <average> gguu: then try to get the video stream
[11:13] <average> gguu: once you have these two separate, maybe you can find a way to record both into a .mp4 or something using ffmpeg
[11:13] <average> gguu: although it would take lots of time until you would get it right. I would really take it to a store or something if you need it fast.
[11:14] <average> hey wessssssss , how goes it ? does it work now ?
[11:15] <wessssssss> Im at the partition screen
[11:15] <wessssssss> How should i set it up?
[11:15] <MonkeyDust> wessssssss  how much space is available?
[11:16] <wessssssss> 75 gb
[11:16] <gguu> average: yes i try but the german tutorial says the "cat /proc/asound/cards " must show me "1 controlle" but i don't have this.
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> wessssssss  75 gb free for use?
[11:17] <arunkumar413> average: http://pastebin.com/jDS7sHGq
[11:17] <wessssssss> Well i have all these small partitions that i want to combine
[11:17] <wessssssss> Before i had deleted all the smaller ones and it was a total of 75 gb of free space
[11:18] <MonkeyDust> wessssssss  in a terminal, paste this line     sudo apt-get install pastebinit;lsblk|pastebinit     then paste the url here
[11:18] <wessssssss> But i chickrened out and reverted to the old table
[11:19] <zztopless> Hi everybody.
[11:19] <envykumar> hi
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> zztopless  you know what zztop means?
[11:19] <average> wessssssss: just wipe out your non-ntfs and non-fat32 stuff and make 2 partitions. A big one of type ext4 where all your ubuntu OS will live and another one of type swap whch will be twice the size of your ram. then select the big one you created and go to the next step of the install
[11:19] <zztopless> I have a technical question: How to I set up Ubuntu (clean install) to make it do my christmas shopping that I may or may not have left to the last minute?
[11:19] <zztopless> It means I have legs... :P
[11:20] <zztopless> Should
[11:20] <wessssssss> Ok so is the big one primary or logical?
[11:20] <zztopless> sorry, wrong window
[11:21] <average> logical is ok too
[11:21] <average> logical
[11:21] <zztopless> illogical of course lol... should probably be in #ubuntu-offtopic now though :P
[11:21] <average> arunkumar413: your ubuntu install is broken. reinstall.
[11:22] <wessssssss> Mount point?
[11:22] <arunkumar413> average: just the kernal image or the entire os
[11:22] <average> wessssssss: yes, mount point is /
[11:22] <average> arunkumar413: wipe it out and reinstall. stop asking so many questions
[11:24] <linea> how i create per user logs in each directory using rsyslog  server
[11:24] <average> linea: read the manpage
[11:31] <randomcpp> does anyone here ever connected an old 2.5'' hd (5400rpm) through esata port? I need an advice :)
[11:31] <average> randomcpp: probably if you have connectors..
[11:31] <average> randomcpp: convertors...
[11:32] <average> adaptors
[11:32] <average> randomcpp: but why bother ?
[11:32] <randomcpp> average, I'd only need to know if a power supply is required or not..I'm not finding a real answers on internet..
[11:33] <randomcpp> I have to buy the right sata-esata cable
[11:33] <bekks> 2.5" devices dont need an external power source for esata.
[11:33] <wessssssss> Average, how should i mark the mount point of the swap drive?
[11:34] <wessssssss> Oh nmd
[11:34] <bekks> randomcpp: There is just one esata cable. The other is named esatap.
[11:34] <average> randomcpp: any hdd I've seen so far needs 2 things plugged into it : 1) power cable 2) data cable .  Only the external hdds are on usb and thus need only 1 cable.
[11:34] <average> wessssssss: swap has no mount point :)
[11:34] <bekks> average: you never dealt with esata, didnt you? :)
[11:34] <wessssssss> Ok
[11:34] <average> bekks: I haven't dealt with it. You are correct.
[11:35] <wessssssss> We are under way
[11:35] <randomcpp> bekks, it was an internal hd before..(inside a laptop)
[11:35] <average> bekks: I guess my assumption about 2 cables was wrong ?
[11:35] <average> wessssssss: awesome :) is it installing ?
[11:35] <wessssssss> Yes
[11:37] <randomcpp> bekks, do you think this could fit my needs http://amzn.to/1fxnqDl ?
[11:39] <average> randomcpp: have you checked what transfer rate you get and if you're comfortable with that ?
[11:41] <randomcpp> I don't really care about transfer rates, since I'll use it to store data (backups mostly)
[11:42] <randomcpp> (here's a photo of the hd http://imgur.com/RmeicR4 just in case)
[11:43] <bekks> randomcpp: That doesnt help. The connectors of the casing would be interesting.
[11:43] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:44] <randomcpp> http://i.imgur.com/VvRV7Ih.jpg
[11:44] <randomcpp> bekks, ^^^
[11:45] <bekks> Thats not the casing. Those are the connectors of the disk, which arent esata obviously.
[11:46] <hellyeah> hey
[11:46] <hellyeah> i wonder
[11:46] <hellyeah> do ubuntu download something without my command?
[11:46] <bekks> hellyeah: No..
[11:46] <knightshade> Hello
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> hellyeah: you suspect you have a rootkit?
[11:47] <hellyeah> i am not sure about rootkit
[11:47] <bekks> hellyeah: Except the updated package lists forthe ability of installing updated packages. Which is normal and not harmfull.
[11:47] <hellyeah> rootkit is like spyware or trojan?
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> !info rkhunter | hellyeah
[11:47] <randomcpp> bekks, so the cable I showed you before won't work?
[11:48] <bekks> randomcpp: It will work.
[11:48] <hellyeah> https://fixubuntu.com/ what do you think about this website
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> hellyeah: would be rare if this is your case, but its always good to stay cautious
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> hellyeah: maybe you can explain whats happening to your system/bandwith?
[11:49] <hellyeah> i dont know i am just asking about that
[11:49] <hellyeah> just this idea cam this to me recently
[11:50] <hellyeah> i have some limits on my internet
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> hellyeah: nobody can run sudo actions or commands without your password (if you didnt share pass)
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> hellyeah: but its possible even on ubuntu, that a system got an intrusion
[11:51] <bekks> lotuspsychje: Thats not true. You can configure sudo to run commands without a password.
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> bekks: on an updated system?
[11:52] <bekks> lotuspsychje: Sure. On every ubuntu you can do that.
[11:52] <randomcpp> bekks, ok I think I'll order that one in this case, thank you!
[11:52] <hellyeah> lotuspsychje:  what do you tyhink about this web site? https://fixubuntu.com/
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> bekks: so if there's a rootkit on the system, anything could happen?
[11:53] <hellyeah> i want to remove commercial package in ubuntu
[11:54] <hellyeah> how can i do that
[11:54] <mnemon> "commercial package" ?
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> so far for security then :p
[11:55] <hellyeah> meatmanek:  i dont know for exaple when i login facebook ubuntu ask me about login from system with opening some page
[11:55] <hellyeah> extra page*
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> bekks: got an url on how that works?
[11:56] <bekks> lotuspsychje: It has nothing to do with a root kit. It is a standard option for configuring your sudoers access.
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> bekks: does that mean if you can access the ubuntu machine, anyone can run sudo commands?
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> bekks: even other users then root?
[11:57] <bekks> lotuspsychje: It means: you _can_ configure your sudo access to run commands as root without entering a password.
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> right
[11:58] <bekks> lotuspsychje: That applies to other users, too, of course.
[11:58] <mnemon> hellyeah: to your original question: ubuntu has auto-update and by default it does some internet searches etc. when you use unity.
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> bekks: that sounds really scary :p
[11:58] <hellyeah> i dont want ubuntu download or update anything automatically
[11:59] <hellyeah> i want to close it up you have any suggestion
[12:00] <wessssss> Average, I'm good to go. Thanks so much for all your help!
[12:01] <alokyadav15> Hellyeah: disable it manually but its not a good practice
[12:02] <hellyeah> why?
[12:02] <hellyeah> just wondering
[12:03] <alokyadav15> Updates contain critical bug fixes some of the serious as remove code execution vulnerability fixes
[12:03] <SrRaven> Anyone here in the mood and got time to help me get either 1) ubuntu to work again (get black screen after logging in) or formatting it again
[12:03] <alokyadav15> *Remote
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> SrRaven  stil struggling with the mac?
[12:05] <SrRaven> yes
[12:05] <SrRaven> it worked perfectly till I restarted
[12:05] <SrRaven> now...all fcked
[12:06] <SrRaven> sorry about language,forgot its early :/
[12:07] <mnemon> hellyeah: remove most of the unity-lens-* stuff or there's a thing in the settings GUI somewhere to stop those from goin to the internets, can't remember what the auto-update package is but you could remove that too :P
[12:07] <hellyeah> the issue is i am staying in my sister's husband home
[12:08] <hellyeah> and when happen to the internet
[12:08] <hellyeah> he directly asked did you do any download :D:D:D
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> SrRaven: wich version have you been able to install on that mac?
[12:10] <SrRaven> I went with 13.10 as I was told to do
[12:10] <SrRaven> I guess it all went south with the nvidia drivers I installed
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> SrRaven: and it worked for you until?
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> SrRaven: maybe try recovermode and failsafeX
[12:11] <SrRaven> according to http://askubuntu.com/questions/375841/ubuntu-13-10-black-screen-after-logging-in-after-installing-nvidia-drivers its the nvidia
[12:11] <SrRaven> failsafeX wont boot
[12:11] <SrRaven> it just gets stuck
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> SrRaven: alot of users strugling with 13.10 and black reboots
[12:11] <dv-> i get a black screen if i try to log in with another user already logged in
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> SrRaven: i fixxed one machine with fixxing broken packages (from recoverymode once)
[12:12] <dv-> ^ with lightdm-gtk on oss radeon drivers. anyone know what that's about
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> SrRaven  try 12.04.3
[12:12] <SrRaven> that would mean a complete reinstall wouldnt it
[12:13] <Zeus007> awk -F ;  '{printf("%s",$3)}'    xx.txt         How can I replace 3 in this command by a variable?
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> SrRaven  "a complete reinstall" takes about 15 minutes here
[12:13] <SrRaven> :/
[12:13] <streulma> hello, what's best to run on my Macbook Pro Retina then? 13.04 or 13.10? 12.04 is to old and would not work.
[12:13] <SrRaven> have a link to the version?
[12:14] <Zeus007> I' freshman , can anybody help me?
[12:14] <SrRaven> it always gets stuck in "mountall: fsck /boot/efi [717] terminated with status 1^
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> SrRaven  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[12:15] <Kejran> Hello, Ubuntu doesn't recognize my WiFi adapter. When I do lsusb there is Fujitsu Siemens Smart Card 802.11bg wireless module [sis 163U] but I can't start it. Can someone please help me?
[12:15] <bekks> SrRaven: then use a livecd to fsck that filesytem.
[12:15] <average> Kejran: no
[12:16] <SrRaven> what a good live cd for taht?
[12:16] <bekks> average: thats not helpful, since you dont know wether other may help.
[12:16] <SrRaven> I dont have a cdr blank,so I need to do it via usb anyway
[12:16] <average> bekks: ok ok...
[12:16] <average> Kejran: hey
[12:16] <streulma> are there more problems with 13.10 then 13.04 ?
[12:16] <bekks> SrRaven: so just boot off your usb stick.
[12:16] <average> Kejran: have you tried using upper-right wifi button in gnome ?
[12:17] <average> Kejran: are you sure you have the drivers of your wifi installed ? (usually they come as kernel modules and you have to check they're loaded with lsmod )
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> streulma  now that's not a nice question
[12:18] <Kejran> average: I'm using Lubuntu on this old laptop. How can I check if I have drivers installed?
[12:18] <llutz> Zeus007: you may ask in #awk
[12:19] <bekks> Kejran: The only chance is using ndiswrapper to get that crap working. The best bet is to get another wifi usb dongle.
[12:19] <average> Kejran: check the specs of the laptop, see what the full name of the wifi card is, with the model and all that stuff
[12:19] <average> Kejran: see if it's supported by your kernel version (google it)
[12:19] <bekks> average: The full model is SIS 163U as he already stated.
[12:19] <Kejran> bekks: It's integrated in the laptop...
[12:19] <average> bekks: no, that's what lsusb tells him
[12:19] <bekks> Kejran: Then get another USB wifi dongle.
[12:19] <average> bekks: not necessarily the actual name of his wifi card
[12:19] <Kejran> average: I have the model name -> WLAN miniCard D2301
[12:19] <bekks> average: And thats what the chipset is, which is the only important information.
[12:20] <average> Kejran: you see ?it's miniCard D2301 , not SIS 163U
[12:20] <average> bekks: ^^
[12:20] <average> oh I see... my bad
[12:20] <bekks> average: Stop please if you have no clue about what you are talking.
[12:20] <Kejran> average: I told you the whole line from lsusb :)
[12:20] <average> bekks: hey stop jumping to conclusions
[12:21] <average> Kejran: ok great, have you checked if your vendor has drivers for this card ? have you looked for linux drivers for this ?
[12:21] <bekks> Kejran: You have a "miniCard D2301" which is using a SIS 163U chipset which is supported by ndiswrapper only. Best bet is to get another USB wifi dongle.
[12:21] <streulma> I see it is not the moment now to use Ubuntu on the PC if there are problems with nvidia?
[12:21] <bekks> average: Did you google? I did, and it revealed that it is supported by ndiswrapper only.
[12:21] <average> Kejran: for example, in my case I have ath9k which I believe is something called atheros, and I have the kernel module loaded and it works just fine
[12:21] <streulma> I see many problems with nvidia on the forums
[12:22] <average> bekks: I wasn't as fast, sorry
[12:22] <Kejran> average: I was looking on the FujitsuSiemens website but they don't provide *nix drivers
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> streulma  better simply ask your question
[12:22] <streulma> 12.04 should not run on my Mac, it is even 13.04 or 13.10, 13.04 runs better
[12:22] <average> bekks: but knowing that nidswrapper is a piece of sh*t, your suggestion for him to get another one is the best I think
[12:22] <SrRaven> alright, im trying to reinstall, but get into grub automatically
[12:22] <bekks> Kejran: Ndiswrapper is the only chance. Telling you for the third time now. However.
[12:22] <SrRaven> how do I tell grub to boot from USB ?
[12:22] <average> bekks: I mean I totally subscribe to that
[12:23] <streulma> so, my question is if 13.04 is is a good choice? MonkeyDust
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> streulma  then why not use 13.04, if it runs better?
[12:23] <average> Kejran: get a new wifi thing. ndiswrapper things are miserable
[12:23] <Kejran> bekks: How can I install/configure that? I'm newbie to Lubuntu/Ubuntu/Unix :)
[12:23] <streulma> yes, but when it is not supported anymore? Then I have to upgrade to 14.04 I think MonkeyDust
[12:24] <Kejran> average: I'm configuring this laptop for my friend, he just needs it for internet and maybe some pdf reading so I don't want him carrying external dongle just to have wifi...
[12:25] <average> Kejran: well I'm sorry to hear that my friend. I am trying to help you save a lot of time ..
[12:25] <average> Kejran: http://www.linux-drivers.org/network.html
[12:26] <Kejran> average: I know, I thank you for that
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> streulma  yes, 13.04 support stops in january
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> streulma  http://regmedia.co.uk/2013/03/24/ubuntu_release_cycle.jpg
[12:27] <BluesKaj> Kejran, sudo lshw -C network , look for "product" in the wifi section
[12:28] <average> Kejran: http://linuxhcl.com/browse/search?category=25
[12:29] <Kejran> BluesKaj: I get RTL-8139 (realtek) but that's wired connection... There is no Wireless at least as far as I can se
[12:29] <average> Kejran: I suggest spending your time with the lappy in a hardware store, trying some different wifi dongles/adaptors/whatever . It's much more productive IMHO
[12:29] <average> Kejran: I gave you two HCL(Hardware Compatibility List) for Linux
[12:29] <average> Kejran: see if any stores near you have any of those products perhaps
[12:30] <ikonia> why not use windows ?
[12:30] <average> ikonia: you're such a smart guy
[12:30] <ikonia> ?
[12:31] <llutz> people don't like simple solutions...
[12:32] <ikonia> if there are compatibility problems, using an os that supports seems worth considering to me
[12:32] <vmuser> Gallium was the open source driver, correct?
[12:32] <average> ikonia: you're very intelligent
[12:32] <ikonia> average: not sure why you keep randomly saying that
[12:32] <average> ikonia: then stop asking me why I'm saying that
[12:33] <Kejran> average: How can I see what's the exact model name of my wifi module?
[12:33] <bekks> Kejran: lsusb
[12:33] <ikonia> average: apologies, I don't understand why you keep stating I'm smart, when I'm just offering a possible solution that hadn't been considered
[12:33] <average> Kejran: look in your laptop specs on the vendor's website
[12:33] <average> ikonia: you're in #ubuntu, you genius
[12:33] <average> ikonia: why would someone in #ubuntu want winblows ?
[12:34] <ikonia> ??
[12:34] <ikonia> average: it's called windows - and they not be aware / have considered a simple solution, hence why I said "consider" using windows
[12:34] <average> ikonia: so what ?
[12:35] <SrRaven> anyone ? Using grub to boot from usb ?
[12:36] <average> ikonia: you're out of line and you're off-topic with your windows talk
[12:36] <ikonia> average: err no, that's not correct at all.
[12:36] <average> !op
[12:36] <Ben64> ha
[12:37] <llutz> hrhr, ymmd
[12:37] <ikonia> average: there is no need for that,
[12:37] <vmuser> average, to get proper multi monitor setup :P
[12:38] <sir-me> sir-me: hey am trying to rip a video mix into a mp3 help
[12:39] <average> sir-me: http://linuxpoison.blogspot.ro/2010/04/how-to-extract-audio-from-video-file.html
[12:40] <average> sir-me: you will require ffmpeg. so you'll have to install it.  sudo aptitude update ; sudo aptitude install ffmpeg
[12:40] <BluesKaj> !aptitude
[12:40] <average> BluesKaj: ok, I guess apt-get is better then
[12:41] <widad> i want something to toggle between win7 and ubuntu studio without shuting down my computer? can anyone help me?
[12:41] <BluesKaj> it's best to use apt-get , just to be safe , average
[12:42] <Ben64> widad: you can use virtualbox and have one running in a VM
[12:42] <BluesKaj> !VB
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> sir-me  winFF is nice ffmpeg frontend
[12:42] <imghost> !info VBox
[12:42] <widad> Ben64, i do't like V.machine it makes my computer going slow
[12:43] <dardevelin> suggestion on solving issue... when installing skype removes spotify and virtualbox which i need. sounds about multiarch but still pulls these libs
[12:43] <dardevelin> s/libs/packages [out]
[12:43] <Ben64> widad: well theres no other way without restarting
[12:44] <widad> Ben64, i think i saw a video on youtube that allows that but don't remember wich one
[12:44] <widad> Ben64, thanks for the help
[12:44] <bekks> imghost: Thats why you should download it from www.virtualbox.org
[12:45] <llutz> !info virtualbox
[12:45] <imghost> !virtualbox | bekks
[12:45] <imghost> bekks, testing only :)
[12:45] <bekks> imghost: Stop abusing ubottu.
[12:47] <imghost> bekks, you can install vbox from software centre
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> imghost  use /msg ubottu if you wnat to test factoids
[12:48] <bekks> imghost: I will never ever recommend that since the version shipped with ubuntu isnt official supported anymore. If you like to support it, do it - I wont.
[12:48] <bekks> imghost: If you want to get usable and sensible support for vbox - use the latest official version.
[12:48] <Ben64> same with wine
[12:49] <bekks> imghost: Just for your information: I am using vbox since version 1.3.4 - I do know what I am telling you about it.
[12:49] <ikonia> using ubuntu studio in virtual box is a bad idea,
[12:49] <imghost> bekks, did i ask you how to install vbox?
[12:49] <ikonia> the hardware interaction and need for RT kernel won't work well in a vm
[12:49] <bekks> imghost: Read the instructions on the downloads page at www.virtualbox.org
[12:50] <bekks> virtualization and RT kernel are pretty contrary use cases.
[12:50] <ikonia> right, so the guy who wants to dual boot may want to be aware of that and not use ubuntu studio i the vm container
[12:51] <ikonia> "in"
[12:53] <BluesKaj> I couldn't connect with wifi on VB , no matter what , so i dual booted instead
[12:54] <average> BluesKaj: you need guest additions in VBox
[12:54] <average> BluesKaj: or not
[12:54] <average> BluesKaj: did you set your network or something to get the connection shared with your VBox ?
[12:55] <average> BluesKaj: or .. what exactly do you mean by "couldn't connect with wifi on VB" ?
[12:55] <BluesKaj> average, yes , had them installed , average
[12:55] <average> BluesKaj: do you have a wifi dongle ?
[12:55] <average> BluesKaj: like those ones that have a limit of 2GB/month or something like that ?
[12:55] <average> BluesKaj: and they look like usb sticks
[12:56] <BluesKaj> nope , laptop here , lenovo G500, broadcom chip
[12:56] <ikonia> that's not a wifi dongle - that's a mobile broadband dongle
[12:57] <average> broadband dongle whatever..
[12:57] <average> forgot the name
[12:57] <ikonia> they use different technologies, so it's worth being clear when asking the questions
[12:58] <BluesKaj> no dongles of any kind here, average
[12:59] <llutz> BluesKaj: vbox clients normally use the network-connection of the host via a virtual network-device. why did you try to access the "real hardware wifi"?
[12:59] <Kejran> I try to use sudo ndisgtk and GUI show up, I add xx.inf and in console I get Fatal: Module ndiswrapper not found.
[12:59] <bekks> Kejran: you have to install ndiswrapper, too.
[13:00] <BluesKaj> llutz, real hardware wifi ?
[13:00] <Kejran> bekks: What's the name of the repository?
[13:00] <steverandy> how do you run command on boot as non-root user?
[13:00] <llutz> BluesKaj: " <BluesKaj> I couldn't connect with wifi on VB" <-
[13:01] <bekks> Kejran: I dont know. I will not support ndiswrapper since I consider it to be one of the biggest loads of crap under the sun. Sorry, no help from me for ndiswrapper.
[13:01] <BluesKaj> because the W7 guest wouldn't connect , llutz
[13:01] <Kejran> bekks: Ok, thanks anyway
[13:02] <average> Kejran: use a vbox, install windows on it, make sure your wifi or whatever works inside your windows vbox, then you'll get the connection shared to your physical machine anyway, so you'll be able to use the network that way
[13:02] <average> Kejran: it's convoluted and effed-up
[13:03] <average> Kejran: if you want to avoid that, look through that thing I gave you, the Hardware Compatibility List for Linux devices , find a few, look them up on amazon and buy thos mofos and plug them in
[13:03] <ikonia> Kejran: is there a reason you don't just use a supported OS ?
[13:03] <average> and they'll work and you'll be happy
[13:04] <average> ikonia: dude, this is #ubuntu , it's not #choose-the-os-your-wifi-dongle-is-compatible-with
[13:04] <Artte14> Hey guys. If I install Ubuntu 13.10 (3.11 kernel). Is 3.11.2 or higher avaliable by Automatic Updates? (Because my mouse is supported from 3.11.2)
[13:04] <ikonia> average: I'm aware of the channel
[13:04] <average> ikonia: so ?!?!? what part don't you understand ?
[13:04] <Kejran> average: I'm configuring this laptop for a friend who isn't tech savvy so I wan't to make it as painless as possible for him. Possibly just boot up and open firefox... anything else will be painful for him ;)
[13:04] <Kejran> ikonia: Because he had win xp and the computer was really slow
[13:05] <bekks> Kejran: If you want to make it non-tech-savvy, then finally get another USB dongle.
[13:05] <ikonia> Kejran: if he's not tech savy surly using windows which fully supports his hardware seeems worth considering
[13:05] <ikonia> Kejran: if it's slow with XP - it's going to also struggle with later linux distributions too
[13:05] <average> I totally subscribe to what bekks said
[13:05] <bekks> Kejran: Or consider using Windows, since it supports his hardware-.
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[13:06] <average> damnit, too late
[13:06] <average> whatever
[13:06] <Artte14> Hey guys. If I install Ubuntu 13.10 (3.11 kernel). Is 3.11.2 or higher avaliable by Automatic Updates? (Because my mouse is supported from 3.11.2)
[13:07] <average> Artte14: your mouse is too fancy, there's like tons of mice compatible with older kernels. Why you had to get the newest fanciest stuff ?
[13:07] <raj1991raj> hello
[13:07] <raj1991raj> what would you do, if you forget the name of an application in ubuntu or any other versin of linux,
[13:07] <bekks> average: Because he did.
[13:07] <bekks> average: Can you answer his question?
[13:07] <ikonia> Artte14: point releases don't happen - you'll keep the same kernel base version
[13:07] <average> bekks: yes I can
[13:08] <average> Artte14: http://linuxhcl.com/browse/search?category=17
[13:08] <ikonia> Artte14: you may want to look at some of the backports
[13:08] <ikonia> average: that is not an answer
[13:08] <average> ikonia: your mother is the answer
[13:08] <Artte14> average: I bought about a year ago gaming mouse. Today I find that "holtec" drivers was included in kernel 3.11.2. I tried LiveUSB ubuntu 14.04 beta and it works
[13:09] <ikonia> Artte14: that will be a bit frustrating for you
[13:09] <ikonia> Artte14: the mainline kernel (but aware of support restrictions) or back ports maybe your best hope
[13:09] <bekks> Artte14: you may use 13.10 with a mainline kernel until April, or use 14.04 with all its caveats.
[13:09] <Rashad> I am asking here because I don't know where it is better to ask.
[13:11] <Artte14> Ok, thanks for help :) ikonia, bekks and average
[13:14] <linea> I have one rsyslog server and 3 client server. i can send client log to remote server. But all the client logs are located in a single folder. So how can i  create 3 client directory in remote server and how to send their own logs to their own file. Am using ubuntu 12.04 server.
[13:16] <daharon> Hey guys, I'm trying to create an Upstart config for a service, but I don't understand where I am supposed to put the "stop" command.  It seems to only support starting a service.
[13:18] <linea> I have one rsyslog server and 3 client server. i can send client log to remote server. But all the client logs are located in a single folder. So how can i  create 3 client directory in remote server and how to send their own logs to their own file. Am using ubuntu 12.04 server.
[13:19] <llutz> linea: read http://www.rsyslog.com/storing-messages-from-a-remote-system-into-a-specific-file/  to get a basic idea how to do
[13:22] <andybrine> Afternoon everyone
[13:23] <andybrine> Quick question, I have searched on the internet and im unable to find a good answer and so thought I would ask here. Doe anyone know how to play auidible.com audio books on ubuntu?
[13:27] <BluesKaj> andybrine, what audio format?
[13:28] <andybrine> its downloaded as ".aa"
[13:29] <dufa> andybrine: I did some research on the same topic myself earlier, but was never able to play them on ubuntu
[13:30] <andybrine> thats a shame, thanks dufa
[13:30] <andybrine> would any wine applications work do you know?
[13:31] <dufa> andybrine: I guess that would be possible. Never really used wine myself, though.
[13:32] <andybrine> cool, thanks
[13:32] <andybrine> I will give it a go
[13:32] <belgianguy> there's a wiki about a lot of programs and how they run under Wine
[13:33] <belgianguy> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=category&iId=0&sAction=view&sTitle=Browse+Applications
[13:33] <MonkeyDust> there's also a !appdb webpage
[13:35] <BluesKaj> andybrine, think they're DRM'd . maybe libdvdcss2 from the videolan site may work
[13:36] <andybrine> excellent, thanks BluesKaj, I will download that
[13:44] <damel> Hey all...I have tried every possible way that I know of to change the brightness on my laptop, but nothing works. All the tutorials, everything seems to work (the files get updated with the right information) but the screen stays SUPER bright. Any ideas ?
[13:49] <hunk> hi every body how can I install xamp
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> hunk  use lamp
[13:50] <hunk> how can I use it by terminal or what
[13:51] <gsdhgcvertgrjh> WARNING       WARNING      WARNING,                       WARNING
[13:51] <gsdhgcvertgrjh> WARNING             WARNING              WARNING,     WARNING         WARNING
[13:51] <gsdhgcvertgrjh>  YOU MAY BE WATCHED
[13:51] <gsdhgcvertgrjh> YOU MAY BE WATCHED
[13:51] <gsdhgcvertgrjh>                 YOU MAY BE WATCHED
[13:51] <FloodBot1> gsdhgcvertgrjh: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> hunk  use tasksel (task select)
[13:52] <hunk> thanks dude
[13:56] <yuvi> om
[13:56] <yuvi> bunny
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> yuvi  it works, we see you
[13:58] <hacker> hi
[13:59] <hacker> yuvi alo
[13:59] <yuvi> hi
[13:59] <yuvi> fucker bol
[14:00] <cfhowlett> !language|yuvi,
[14:01] <yuvi> bunny
[14:02] <marianne> hello...currently running 12.04 ... I am wondering if there is a way to network to my older iMAC?
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> marianne  you mean share a connection?
[14:06] <marianne> MonkeyDust: I want to be able to transfer files.... want to decommission my iMac...
[14:08] <marianne> MonkeyDust: They are set up for internet with my gateway, but they can't 'see' each other
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> marianne  are they both in the same network?
[14:09] <Lambda2> hello
[14:10] <Lambda2> How can I download a file with "wget" when the link is like website/download
[14:10] <marianne> MonkeyDust: No, I don't think so, up until now they have their own connections to the internet...is there a doc out there that can step me through it? I haven't found anything revelant yet...
[14:10] <Lambda2> so not website.tld/file.zip, more like website.tld/downloadfile
[14:11] <helheim> ok ... so how do i make a command (like cgminer) directory independent?
[14:11] <helheim> as in typing ./cgminer and start mining anywhere
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> marianne  they do not use the same gateway? if they do, they are in the same network
[14:11] <Lambda2> Is that even possible with wget?
[14:11] <helheim> in any directory, that is
[14:12] <marianne> MonkeyDust: Ok, Same gateway,
[14:13] <bekks> helheim: you cant. ./ designates the current directory. If "cgminer" isnt found in the current directory, "./cgminer" will not work.
[14:13] <llutz> helheim: add the directory cgminer is in to your $PATH
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> marianne  and what are the local ip address of both machines?
[14:13] <bekks> llutz: That will not make "./cgminer" work.
[14:13] <llutz> bekks: true,
[14:13] <llutz> helheim: ommit the ./ then
[14:13] <helheim> ahhh....
[14:13] <helheim> ok i get it
[14:14] <marianne> MonkeyDust: ok, it is the same... they both start with 192.168.0.x
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> marianne  good... and can they ping each other?
[14:15] <marianne> MonkeyDust: yes... damn BRB, work calls
[14:15] <crusoexia> hello, shall i put my shell scripts in /usr/local/bin? or create a bin/ directory under my home and put my scripts here?
[14:15] <helheim> thanks for the help
[14:15] <helheim> uhmmm... 1 moar thing: /cgminer: --scrypt: unrecognized option
[14:16] <helheim> this was new :(
[14:16] <helheim> its supposed to run scrypt
[14:16] <helheim> dont know if this is the place to ask
[14:19] <saadin> hi, I can't add any ppa, not from command line nor from Software&Updates. from commandline it just says Cannod add PPA and from Sofware&Updates when I add a ppa nothings happens.
[14:19] <saadin> I have 13.10 and based on what I've learned from searching about my problem I think I should mention I'm using dual boot
[14:20] <blurkis> What is the command you are running to add a ppa from the terminal?
[14:20] <blurkis> saadin, ^^
[14:21] <saadin> blurkis: for example for adding wine repo:
[14:21] <saadin> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa
[14:21] <helheim> ahhh
[14:21] <helheim> never mind
[14:21] <blurkis> saadin, that you are dualbooting should not have anything to do with a ppa.
[14:22] <Sirv> hi
[14:22] <uri_> hi
[14:23] <uri_> good morning
[14:23] <saadin> blurkis: yeah it seems so,but  i searched for my problem and the only answer was dualbooting causes the problem
[14:23] <Sirv> its that really flood bots?
[14:23] <uri_> i have a problem with shockwave flash player on chromium, in ubuntu, allways i enter places with flash like youtube, allway crash
[14:24] <bekks> Sirv: yes.
[14:24] <blurkis> saadin, well, adding the repository is just about putting that line in a specific file.  Has nothing to do with dualbooting.
[14:24] <uri_> also in mozzilla
[14:24] <uri_> in chrome it run well
[14:24] <uri_> flash player
[14:24] <blurkis> saadin, seems strange its not working for you.
[14:25] <blurkis> Whats the errormessages? do you get to the part where it states information about the ppa and asks you to press enter? if not,  do you have network on the computer?
[14:25] <uri_> i am runnin ubuntu 10.04
[14:25] <bekks> uri_: As a desktop?
[14:25] <cfhowlett> uri_, on desktop or server?  desktop has reached end of life
[14:26] <uri_> desktop
[14:26] <bekks> Sirv: I dont want your queries, stop them.
[14:26] <cfhowlett> uri_, then you're running an unsupported version.  time to upgrade.  I suggest 12.04 as it is Long Term Support
[14:27] <uri_> i have 1 gb free hd space it will be enoguh to update ?
[14:27] <saadin> blurkis: no it doesn't get to that part and yes i have network beacause apt-get install works. it just prints this (even with -m option):
[14:27] <saadin> Cannot add PPA: 'ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa'.
[14:27] <saadin> Please check that the PPA name or format is correct.
[14:27] <cfhowlett> uri_, lubuntu will fit in that space.
[14:27] <saturnmond6> hallo
[14:28] <cfhowlett> uri_, I'm guessing you have an older machine or one with low specifications?
[14:28] <andybrine> ok, im not a fan of itunes at all. I just want to use it to play audiobooks on ubuntu. Does anyone know how to install iTunes on ubuntu?
[14:28] <cfhowlett> !itunes|andybrine, many have asked.  most have failed
[14:29] <cfhowlett> andybrine, it may be possible to run a very, very old version of itunes in wine ...
[14:29] <uri_> yes its old, a notebook
[14:29] <cfhowlett> andybrine, with very limited capabilities.  frankly, not with the effort IMHO
[14:29] <andybrine> thanks, much appreciated
[14:30] <andybrine> do you happen to know any applications that are able to run audible audiobooks?
[14:31] <cfhowlett> andybrine, audible mp3's?
[14:31] <andybrine> no, they are .aa files
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> andybrine  the factoid suggests !players
[14:32] <cfhowlett> !players
[14:32] <uri_> i am updating to version 12.04
[14:32] <uri_> i think it will be ok
[14:32] <uri_> 12.04.03 ?
[14:32] <yeats> andybrine: old question thread, but I'd imagine little has changed: http://askubuntu.com/questions/16918/how-to-listen-to-audible-files
[14:32] <cfhowlett> andybrine, never played one, but install ubuntu-restricted-extras and see  what mplayer can do ...
[14:32] <cfhowlett> uri_, lubuntu or xubunut?  both are much lighter than ubuntu
[14:33] <yeats> andybrine: mostly boils down to "contact Audible and let them know you'd like to see a Linux client" :-/
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> andybrine  paste a link to a .aa file, so we can try
[14:33] <uri_> ive never heard of lubuntu
[14:33] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu
[14:33] <cfhowlett> andybrine, what monkeydust said.
[14:33] <uri_> i dont like very much unity
[14:34] <cfhowlett> uri_, no unity in lubuntu
[14:34] <andybrine> thanks guys
[14:34] <andybrine> here is a link to the file: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B687AFZZOf-seGJOU0EzS1E1cDA/edit?usp=sharing
[14:34] <cfhowlett> andybrine, no google drive for me: China.
[14:35] <andybrine> lol, damn it. Let me put it on ubuntu one
[14:35] <blurkis> saadin, are you using latest version of ubuntu? perhaps it not working for your version?
[14:36] <saadin> blurkis: i'm using 13.10
[14:37] <andybrine> it may take some time but it will be ready soon
[14:38] <cfhowlett> andybrine, no worries.  make it a small file ...
[14:38] <andybrine> its 50mb but they are all audio books. Thats the smallest I have
[14:38] <cfhowlett> andybrine, that'll work ...
[14:38] <andybrine> cheers
[14:40] <uri_> i have to free 2 gb more of space to update system online
[14:40] <uri_> it says it require 3gb
[14:40] <killer> hey , i use gnome with ubuntu 12.04 and i changed the cross,minimize bar to right hand side but whenever i switch user , it is again is on left side
[14:40] <cfhowlett> andybrine, ffmpeg says it'll play .aac files which are clearly NOT your .aa
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> andybrine  same here, but even windows xp (in virtual box) can't read the .aa file
[14:41] <cfhowlett> uri_, better to download 12.04 via torrent and clean install
[14:42] <andybrine> thats shocking
[14:42] <andybrine> audible dont seem to like to support linux
[14:42] <cfhowlett> andybrine, audible seems to be using a closed and proprietary codec
[14:42] <cfhowlett> ^^^ what you said
[14:43] <andybrine> yeah
[14:43] <andybrine> the funny thing is that you can listen to your audio files on android
[14:43] <andybrine> well audible audiobooks
[14:44] <cfhowlett> andybrine, gotta have the app, though, right?
[14:44] <andybrine> yeah, there is an app for it
[14:44] <andybrine> here is the audio file:http://ubuntuone.com/76DNY8aUCHxYeVb4WXhPlI
[14:45] <llutz_> andybrine: audible aa is drm-crippled mp3 inside a proprietary container. hard to play without a audible-licensed player
[14:45] <BluesKaj> andybrine, did you try vlc , it plays most audio files with it's embedded decoders
[14:45] <cfhowlett> andybrine, I suspect the codec is in the app.  We'll see. downloading your .aa file now
[14:46] <andybrine> yeah, i tried vlc and it wouldnt play it :(
[14:46] <cfhowlett> andybrine, I'd say that's a sign ...
[14:47] <andybrine> yeah, i know what you mean
[14:47] <andybrine> its just soo frustrating
[14:47] <andybrine> I have audiobooks that I have paid for and im not able to listen to them
[14:47] <cfhowlett> andybrine, let audible know of your discontent ...
[14:48] <llutz_> cfhowlett: they know about it and they ignore it
[14:48] <BluesKaj> is aa a proprietary codec,? seems unfamiliar to me
[14:48] <llutz_> BluesKaj: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audible.com
[14:48] <andybrine> yeah, audible are really not good
[14:49] <llutz_> stay away from any DRM thingy (jm2c)
[14:50] <BluesKaj> so libdvdcss2 didn't touch it , I suppose
[14:50] <llutz_> BluesKaj: css is dvd-video
[14:50] <llutz_> for*
[14:50] <andybrine> maybe I could run android apps on ubuntu
[14:50] <cfhowlett> andybrine, no choice but to avoid DRM.  I'm reading the wiki on the DRM and seems that you're unlikely to find a linux work around as it's locked down pretty tightly
[14:50] <BluesKaj> yeah , but it strips drm, from the file
[14:50] <andybrine> dont know how to do that though
[14:50] <andybrine> lol
[14:51] <andybrine> ok, thanks for helping me out
[14:51] <andybrine> much appreciated
[14:51] <cfhowlett> http://linuxtidbits.wordpress.com/2011/09/21/audible-com-and-linux-arghh/
[14:52] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: ahhh libdvdcss2 doesn't remove DRM, it just plays CSS encoded DVDs
[14:53] <andybrine> that link looks like a lot of work
[14:53] <andybrine> lol
[14:55] <nod> w
[14:56] <crusoexia> hello
[14:57] <unicornjedi> #ubuntukylin
[14:57] <cfhowlett> andybrine, you probably can run and android app via ubuntu - virtual box or android sdk IIRC...whether or not that will get your audible up is nother question
[14:57] <cfhowlett> unicornjedi, what's is your ubuntukylin question?
[14:57] <andybrine> yeah, no probs
[14:58] <andybrine> I will have to give it a miss and ask for a refund
[14:58] <unicornjedi> cfhowlett, oh, I was trying to '/join #ubuntukylin' to see if there were chinese people talking in there
[14:58] <cfhowlett> andybrine, best of luck.
[14:58] <unicornjedi> cfhowlett, it would have been a cultural experience
[14:58] <andybrine> cheers, thanks for your help
[14:59] <cfhowlett> unicornjedi, sadly, I've yet to see that channel actually being used.  they're all over on youku/qq/or some other "u" sounding network.
[14:59] <unicornjedi> cfhowlett, interesssting
[14:59] <marianne> MonkeyDust: you there?
[15:00] <cfhowlett> unicornjedi, 13.10 lists several support options, but as I don't read/write or speak Mandarin, ...
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> marianne  no :p
[15:01] <moushira> Hello, anyone around using Draftsight?
[15:01] <fedgalaxy> Hello, how can I know who is scanning my port by listenning to my eth0?
[15:02] <marianne> MonkeyDust: alas end user and their random clicking... anyway, both the iMAC and the ubuntu can see each other, I actually use software ti share the keyboard and mouse
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> marianne  synergy?
[15:02] <marianne> MonkeyDust: bingo!
[15:03] <marianne> MonkeyDust: really just want to know how to transfer files...i guess
[15:03] <zx42o> Hello, I am having problems installing Ubuntu Desktop 12.04 LTS to a new computer, I am continuously receiving a pop-up message "Wired network - Disconnected you are now offline"
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> marianne  nfs and ssh come to mind
[15:04] <cfhowlett> zx42o, you can install without network access
[15:04] <Sonderblade> zx42o: do you know what brand your wifi card is?
[15:04] <marianne> MonkeyDust: i tried ssh and, yeah, probably my error caused it to not work
[15:04] <zx42o> It has finished the install process and still unable to connect to the internet via eth0
[15:04] <zx42o> Its an onboard lan realtek gbe
[15:05] <unicornjedi> zx42o, try 'sudo restart network-manager'
[15:05] <cfhowlett> zx42o, did you reboot?
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> marianne  try nfs https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[15:05] <zx42o> ok.. yes i have rebooted, i have installed and reinstalled several times over the past 24 hours
[15:05] <marianne> MonkeyDust: awesome... thank you!
[15:06] <zx42o> it hangs on connecting
[15:06] <cfhowlett> zx42o, stop reinstalling.  work on confiiguring the networking
[15:06] <zx42o> ok
[15:06] <cfhowlett> zx42o, laptop?  try a different network?
[15:06] <marianne> MonkeyDust: I'll RTFM and then try it... I'll be back tomorrow after I try it... might take a while since I'm on call today  :-(
[15:06] <zx42o> no its a desktop computer
[15:07] <unicornjedi> zx42o, what type of computer is it?
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> marianne  or look for a less technical NFS tutorial
[15:07] <zx42o> i have located the drivers online and have installed them but still getting same message
[15:07] <zx42o> GA-970A-UD3P motherboard
[15:07] <marianne> MonkeyDust: technical is ok, just probably need to read through it all first
[15:07] <atma111> I have a problem, I have a proxy server "ubuntu server squid3" the pc's local network have internet but the online games do not work (dota2 , wow, aion, starcraft2)
[15:08] <cfhowlett> !server
[15:08] <zx42o> results of lshw -c network :
[15:08] <zx42o> desc: Ethernet interface
[15:08] <zx42o> product: RTL81111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller
[15:08] <linea> koooooiii
[15:08] <zx42o> vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
[15:08] <zx42o> physical id: 0
[15:09] <zx42o> bus info: pci@0000:05:00.0
[15:09] <linea> hahahahahah
[15:09] <zx42o> logical name: eth0
[15:09] <zx42o> version: 06
[15:09] <unicornjedi> zx42o, also, during the install process press alt+ctrl+f1 or f2 or f3 or f4 or f5 or f6 when it hangs. You should have a terminal thats showing the working processes
[15:09] <zx42o> serial 74:d4:35:02:94:21
[15:09] <linea> poda patti
[15:09] <zx42o> size: 10M bit/s
[15:09] <atma111> pls help!! I have a problem, I have a proxy server "ubuntu server squid3" the pc's local network have internet but the online games do not work (dota2 , wow, aion, starcraft2)
[15:10] <zx42o> ok
[15:10] <Sonderblade> zx42o: try sudo dhclient or sudo dhclient3
[15:10] <akyra_77> ciao
[15:10] <akyra_77> list
[15:10] <fedgalaxy> Greetings, how to check who's scanning my ports in Ubuntu?
[15:10] <unicornjedi> atma11, for starcraft2 have you run 'sudo sysctl kernel.yama.ptrace_scope=0' before playing?
[15:11] <zx42o> ok, both sudo dhclient & sudo dhclient3 in terminal do not provide any response
[15:12] <llutz> zx42o: what does "lspci  -s 05:00 -k" say?
[15:12] <zx42o> when "sudo restart network-manager" response is "network-manager start/running, process 2189"
[15:12] <atma111> not the local pc's has windows7
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> fedgalaxy  try wireshark... sharkwire... i forget the exact name
[15:12] <Sonderblade> zx42o: they only output to /var/log/syslog, if the command doesn't say anything it means your network is now working
[15:13] <zx42o> 05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL81111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 06)  Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology GA-EP45-DS5 Motherboard  Kernel driver in use: r8169  Kernel modules: r8169
[15:13] <_savior_> hi guys
[15:13] <_savior_> does anybody know what package is responsible for automount?
[15:14] <llutz> zx42o: does "ifconfig -a" list any ethX ifaces?
[15:14] <zx42o> ok i attempted to open firefox still not connected and also still getting "wired connection you are now disconnected" pop up
[15:14] <_savior_> I want to update my bug report so that the maintainers receive
[15:14] <fedgalaxy> MonkeyDust, wireshark doesnt work for wire connection, Only wireless, wifi
[15:14] <zx42o> yes eth0
[15:15] <zx42o> Link encap:ehternet
[15:15] <zx42o> HWaddr 74:d4:35:02:94:21
[15:15] <llutz> fedgalaxy: nonsense
[15:15] <zx42o> inet6 addr: fe80:76d4:35ff:f ...
[15:15] <zx42o> there is no inet address
[15:15] <llutz> zx42o: sudo ifconfig eth0 up && sudo dhclient eth0
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> _savior_  in dconf-editor: org.gnome.desktop.media-handling
[15:16] <fedgalaxy> llutz, give me a tutorial, at least something I can start with
[15:16] <llutz> zx42o: assuming you have a dhcp-server running in network
[15:16] <fedgalaxy> to check who's scannign my ports
[15:16] <zx42o> yes
[15:16] <llutz> fedgalaxy: http://www.wireshark.org/docs/wsug_html_chunked/
[15:16] <crocket> Does ubuntu have a twitter or facebook client?
[15:16] <zx42o> ok it is "doing something" it is blinking cursor with no response
[15:17] <_savior_> MonkeyDust: thanks, but I need the name of the package that does that for the bug report
[15:17] <llutz> zx42o: you checked your network-cable? it's ok, LED on?
[15:18] <_savior_> MonkeyDust: I have checked dconf before, and it supposed to be on
[15:18] <zx42o> yes its a 10mbit connection, the yellow led blinks
[15:18] <zx42o> i have switched cables as well
[15:19] <llutz> zx42o: press ctrl-c to exit dhclient. what is your routers IP, your localnet ip-range? 192.168.x.x
[15:19] <zx42o> i am behind a switch, however the problem exists without the switch as well
[15:20] <atma111> I have a problem, I have a proxy server "ubuntu server squid3" the pc's local network(windows7) have internet but the online games do not work (dota2 , wow, aion, starcraft2). What is the problem?
[15:20] <zx42o> 192.168.0.100's
[15:20] <zx42o> 192.168.0.109 is this computers local ip
[15:20] <Sonderblade> zx42o: what does ip addr show eth0 | head -n 1 output?
[15:21] <zx42o> 2: eth0 <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP qlen 1000
[15:22] <atma111> !ping
[15:22] <llutz> zx42o: sudo ip addr add 192.168.0.109/24 dev eth0
[15:23] <llutz> zx42o: sudo ip route add 192.168.0.0/24 dev eth0
[15:23] <llutz> zx42o: sudo ip route add default via 192.168.0.100
[15:23] <llutz> zx42o: assuming 0.100 is your gateway/router
[15:24] <zx42o> sudo iproute add 192.168.0.0/24 dev eth0 -  response is RTNETLINK answers: File exists
[15:24] <zx42o> continue?
[15:25] <llutz> zx42o: 1st: sudo ip set dev eth0 down &&  sudo ip set dev eth0 up
[15:25] <llutz> zx42o: 1st: sudo ip link set dev eth0 down &&  sudo ip link set dev eth0 up              sry
[15:26] <felera_85> Hello. Can somebody read my message?
[15:26] <zx42o> ok
[15:27] <zx42o> sudo ip route add default via 192.168.0.100 response is RTNETLINK answers: Network is unreachable
[15:27] <felera_85> Hello. Can somebody read my message?
[15:28] <zykotick9> felera_85: yes
[15:28] <llutz> felera_85: yes
[15:28] <hacker> hi somebody tell mi about voice chatting with xchat
[15:29] <felera_85> ok. thank you.
[15:31] <llutz> zx42o: shouldn't happen, it sounds like driver-issues. you might try to update your net-driver with the one from realtek, might be tricky without internet ...
[15:33] <zx42o> ok
[15:33] <Sonderblade> zx42o: run sudo dhclient -d eth0 and paste what it outputs somewhere, preferably after a clean reboot
[15:33] <ehnde> is it ok to have a bash one liner as a cron job? or should i execute it as a script instead?
[15:33] <zx42o> ok rebooting
[15:34] <llutz> ehnde: it's ok
[15:34] <kkkkkkk> hi alll, I am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS and i want to connect to internet using data cable , from my samsung mobile, when i connect data cable, mobile broadband connection shows up in the modem manager, but doesn't connect, it registers network and then disconnected, after then modem detected in network manager get out of list, i need to replug data cable, this is very annoying and data cable and mobile is working nicely in windowss
[15:34] <felera_85> We will open a software company with my partner. i am thinking to use open source softwares at our company. But i am not sure if they are legal or not. For example it is possible to use xwiki and libreoffice which are LGPL?
[15:34] <kkkkkkk> i am from the same mobile Online now, but from windows, this is the only source of internet to me
[15:34] <ehnde> great, thanks llutz
[15:35] <hacker> hi
[15:35] <kkkkkkk> i also tried to connect using bluetooth, but when i created DUN and click to connection created to  connect in network manager, system logout and kernel panic occurs,
[15:36] <kkkkkkk> Ubuntu is not doing its basic tasks. It is getting worst day by day
[15:37] <zx42o> i cannot paste the response however I will type it
[15:38] <kkkkkkk> ubuntu is concerend only with polished looks, not on performance and stability
[15:38] <kkkkkkk> this is my view
[15:38] <zx42o> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.1-ESV-R4
[15:38] <zx42o> Copyright 2004-2011 Internet Systems Consortium.
[15:38] <zx42o> All rights reserved.
[15:38] <zx42o> For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/
[15:39] <zx42o> Listening on LPF/eth0/74:d4:35:02:94:21
[15:39] <zx42o> Sending on LPF/eth0/74:d4:35:02:94:21
[15:39] <zx42o> Sending on Socket/fallback
[15:39] <zx42o> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 th 255.255.255. port 67 interval 3
[15:40] <zx42o> " ... interval 7
[15:40] <zx42o> " ... internval 14
[15:40] <zx42o> " ... interval 9
[15:40] <zx42o> " ... interval 20
[15:40] <zx42o> " ... interval 14
[15:40] <zx42o> interval 15
[15:40] <zx42o> interval 15
[15:40] <zx42o> interval 18
[15:40] <FloodBot1> zx42o: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:41] <zx42o> interval 21, 21, 18, 13, 20
[15:41] <zx42o> 11
[15:41] <Sonderblade> zx42o: seem to me that your network card is fine but there is no dhcp server on your lan
[15:42] <knightshade> Hello
[15:42] <llutz> Sonderblade: in that case the manual ip-setting before should have worked and not given the  " RTNETLINK answers: Network is unreachable"
[15:43] <zx42o> ok i am behind a switch, i have tried without switch however the same results, i can try without switch again however i must move into the other room
[15:43] <zx42o> let me directly into router
[15:43] <zx42o> brb
[15:44] <Sonderblade> llutz: yes if the commands where typed in exactly as you wrote them
[15:46] <zx42o> one issue previously mentioned last night in this chat, the identity of ethernet lan is realtek r8168, lshw -c network reported using driver=r8169, i downloaded appropriate r8168 drivers and manually installed them (to the best of my knowledge at least) however the problem persisted, i have since done a fresh install
[15:47] <linux_dr> I'm trying to use Saucy Salamander within vagrant (with virtual box as the vm provider)... Vagrant appears to be getting ahold of something that it thinks is ssh before OpenSSH is actually functioning properly... when is SSH supposed to be started in Saucy, and by who? is it possible it answers connections before the system is in a stable state? (The first error I get is that sh can't find lsb_release)
[15:50] <atma111> need help, I have a proxy server "ubuntu server squid3" the pc's local network(windows7) have internet but the online games do not work (dota2 , wow, aion, starcraft2). What is the problem?
[15:50] <linux_dr> Ubuntu has apparently switched from inits to something called upstart... where is this configured? could it be starting ssh before / is mounted or something odd like that?
[15:50] <lelele> test
[15:51] <llutz> linux_dr: nope, check scripts in /etc/init
[15:51] <Sonderblade> zx42o: are there other devices on the same lan? can you verify that they successfully receive their ip:s from dhcp?
[15:52] <knightshade> !upstart | linux_dr
[15:52] <linux_dr> I don't even see ssh mentioned in /etc/rc2.d... :-(
[15:52] <linux_dr> knightshade: Been picking through it, thanks...
[15:53] <linux_dr> just haven't found anything there very helpful
[15:53] <llutz> linux_dr: scripts in /etc/init , /etc/rcX.d is old SysV-init
[15:53] <Fohlen> hi guys, could upgrading ubuntu-desktop (to be more specific xubuntu) from 12.10 to 13.04 with update-manager (graphically) cause any lack on data? Are there known issues?
[15:53] <linux_dr> could puppet be hijacking port 22? :-?
[15:53] <llutz> linux_dr: sudo lsof -i :22         check it
[15:55] <linux_dr> llutz: sshd is running there *NOW*... I'm seeing an odd behavior at early boot...
[15:55] <linux_dr> suspect BEFORE sshd is running... or sshd running before it should be...
[15:55] <linux_dr> I don't see anything launching it. :(
[15:56] <linux_dr> could VirtualBox be enabling ssh as the console OUTSIDE of sshd?
[15:56] <llutz> never heard of that
[15:57] <linux_dr> nor have I...
[15:57] <linux_dr> I'm just not seeing anything in /etc that should be starting openSSH so I don't know where it's being started.
[15:58] <llutz> linux_dr: check /etc/init/ssh* or /etc/init.d/ssh*
[15:58] <linux_dr> I just selected "OpenSSH Server" on Saucy install..
[16:00] <Sonderblade> Fohlen: i'd say the probability is about 50% that something will break if you do that upgrade
[16:00] <JoshDreamland> hi; I just ran the distribution upgrade to 13.10, thinking enough time has passed that nothing bad would happen, and it's apparently frozen, leaving only a blank window that says "Distribution Upgrade (as superuser)" in the title
[16:00] <Fohlen> Sonderblade, I meant like causing loss on personal data
[16:00] <linux_dr> Hold the phone...  I noticed start/stop on lines in /etc/init/ssh.conf... why should sshd know about run levels?
[16:01] <llutz> !runlevel | linux_dr
[16:01] <llutz> !upstart | linux_dr
[16:01] <linux_dr> so the upstart specific config files are in /etc/init/?
[16:01] <llutz> linux_dr: yes
[16:02] <Sonderblade> Fohlen: i've never experienced that... but it's always good to keep backups
[16:02] <Fohlen> right
[16:02] <SonikkuAmerica> JoshDreamland: So the Distribution Upgrade window is both blank and sitting there?
[16:02] <llutz> linux_dr: deeper info http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[16:02] <JoshDreamland> yes, SonikkuAmerica
[16:02] <JoshDreamland> just a big, gray window
[16:03] <SonikkuAmerica> JoshDreamland: I would [ killall ] (force-quit) the process and try again.
[16:03] <linux_dr> I see... and if I want to delay openssh until after the system stabilizes? that should be in the cookbook?
[16:03] <Fohlen> what would be the worst case that can happen?
[16:03] <Fohlen> assuming I have not many stuff
[16:04] <firmware0> ok guys, this may be a stupid question
[16:05] <firmware0> but when it first starts up and the words fly across the screen.. is there a log some where where i can more carefully read what is happening?
[16:05] <bekks> !ask | firmware0
[16:05] <JoshDreamland> when I run the update manager, it says "Not all updates can be installed." Should I click continue, or partial upgrade?
[16:05] <bekks> firmware0: Open a terminal and type "dmesg" and you will se quite a lot.
[16:06] <llutz> linux_dr: check the "start on" if there is such an entry in the conf
[16:07] <SonikkuAmerica> JoshDreamland: Hit "Cancel" then run [ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -f ] in a terminal.
[16:08] <SonikkuAmerica> JoshDreamland: once you've finished that, run [ sudo do-release-upgrade ].
[16:08] <JoshDreamland> should I delete the lock file?
[16:09] <SonikkuAmerica> Yes. Smash it.
[16:09] <llutz> linux_dr: if you want to make sure it starts after all important boot-processes are done, you may test a line like "start on filesystem and net-device-up IFACE=ethX"
[16:09] <JoshDreamland> wants me to run sudo dpkg --configure -a; doing so
[16:10] <maitake> so i accidentally wrote to my fonts.conf and text is now turning to bunches of rectangles.. is it possible to restore my fonts.conf? i've tried creating one  by pasting from a text editor but it still spits out rectangles
[16:10] <SonikkuAmerica> OK
[16:10] <[[thufir]]> my disc is like 99% full.  I want to see how big some .dar slices are when you add them all up together. can I use du or df to do that?
[16:11] <pulsar78> is there a way to a2dp without pulseaudio ?
[16:14] <JoshDreamland> SonikkuAmerica: when running upgrade -f, it bailed: "Processing was halted because there were too many errors."
[16:14] <SonikkuAmerica> pulsar78: What does a2dp do? Refresh me.
[16:15] <llutz> [[thufir]]:  ls -lrt *.dar | awk '{ total += $5 }; END { print total }'   ?
[16:15] <knightshade> [[thufir]]: du -ch *.dar
[16:15] <SonikkuAmerica> JoshDreamland: Can you run the same command and pastebin it?
[16:15] <JoshDreamland> rerun it, or paste the current log?
[16:15] <pulsar78> Advanced Audio Distribution Profile
[16:15] <JoshDreamland> I set my terminal log size to unlimited
[16:16] <SonikkuAmerica> JoshDreamland: Paste it.
[16:16] <SonikkuAmerica> !pastebin
[16:17] <alexxxa3> guys, on grandpa's laptop, it's xubuntu 12.04, whenever there are about 100 upgrades to be done, the sound disappears.
[16:17] <alexxxa3> then I have to do update
[16:17] <alexxxa3> and that was enough last time
[16:17] <SonikkuAmerica> pulsar78: couldn't tell you
[16:17] <alexxxa3> this time, even updating won't solve problem
[16:17] <alexxxa3> I had to start pavucontrol...
[16:18] <JoshDreamland> SonikkuAmerica: http://pastebin.com/nJ5Nni4R
[16:18] <alexxxa3> after existing pavucontrol, sound is muted, and I have to open pavucontrol again and unmute it all
[16:18] <JoshDreamland> the dist-upgrade starts on 1347
[16:18] <alexxxa3> what's the problem? bug or something else?
[16:18] <kostkon> pulsar78, with a little bit of fiddling with the alsa conf files probably yes
[16:19] <JoshDreamland> I must have missed the "too many errors" thing before
[16:19] <alexxxa3> anybody to help me?
[16:21] <MadsRC> what do you need help with alexxa3 ?
[16:21] <SonikkuAmerica> JoshDreamland: That's pretty messy... if you want to upgrade your machine, I'd suggest a Live image... Unless someone else has a better idea.
[16:21] <alexxxa3> I want to know why does exiting the pavucontrol mute sound?
[16:22] <MadsRC> Hmm, which flavour of Ubuntu?
[16:22] <JoshDreamland> josh@dreamland:~$ sudo do-release-upgrade   /   Checking for a new Ubuntu release   /   No new release found
[16:23] <JoshDreamland> so I'm "officially" on 13.10; I just can't get the package manager to not be a broken mess
[16:23] <alexxxa3> MadsRC: It's Xubuntu 12.04. XFCE
[16:24] <MadsRC> That's wierd. I've had tremendous problem with sound too on an XFCE 12.04. My solution was to do ubuntu 13.10 and remove gnome
[16:24] <SonikkuAmerica> JoshDreamland: Run [ lsb-release -a ] (the - between LSB and release is an underscore)
[16:25] <SonikkuAmerica> (For some reason I don't have an underscore in Android 4.4)
[16:25] <JoshDreamland> reports saucy, No LSB modules are available.
[16:25] <aguitel> how to know if i am using propietaries drivers ?
[16:26] <SonikkuAmerica> Still get a Live image and select "Reinstall Ubuntu 13.10" ...
[16:26] <zykotick9> aguitel: for what device?  video?  wlan?
[16:27] <aguitel> zykotick9, video
[16:27] <alexxxa3> unfortunately, grandpa lives in another country. All I can do is remote assistance (control). If somehow happens that X won't start (as a consequence of upgrading), I couldn't do anything on distance.
[16:27] <SonikkuAmerica> aguitel: Go to "Software and Updates" and look under the "Additional Drivers" tab
[16:27] <alexxxa3> I can't open port on his router
[16:27] <zykotick9> aguitel: what video card is it?  "lspci -v | grep -i vga" if you are unsure.
[16:28] <zykotick9> SonikkuAmerica: ftw ;)  aguitel
[16:28] <aguitel> zykotick9,  VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Wrestler [Radeon HD 7290] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[16:28] <atma111> need help, I have a proxy server "ubuntu server squid3" the pc's local network(windows7) have internet but the online games do not work (dota2 , wow, aion, starcraft2). What is the problem?
[16:31] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh hello atma111, nice to see you again. Did you read what I told you to read?
[16:33] <atma111> SonikkuAmerica yeah everything is working
[16:34] <atma111> SonikkuAmerica my problem is games online
[16:34] <atma111> not working
[16:35] <SonikkuAmerica> Nice to know your config is fixed. Are the ports you want to use open?
[16:37] <atma111> do not know the steam client not connecting
[16:38] <SonikkuAmerica> And you're not in offline mode?
[16:40] <juk> hello, can anyone help me out with this error: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[16:40] <atma111> yeah can not connect
[16:40] <juk> im getting this if launch glxinfo
[16:41] <atma111> SonikkuAmerica the problem may be iptables I have not configured
[16:41] <Sonderblade> juk: probably your 3d card driver is not active
[16:42] <SonikkuAmerica> atma111: Is the machine you're using Steam on connected to the Internet?
[16:42] <juk> Sonderblade: i can see nouveau in lsmod output
[16:44] <atma111> The Internet works well but no conect games online
[16:44] <Sonderblade> juk: does xdpyinfo | grep DRI list anything?
[16:45] <juk> Sonderblade: dri2
[16:45] <Arcs>  Hi all Im having trouble after installing Lubuntu from USB on an Acer aspire one after post it hangs and says ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxx - does not exist.  dropping to shell. Any help appreciated
[16:45] <SonikkuAmerica> atma111: You might try asking in #steamlug
[16:46] <kostkon> atma111, run steam from the terminal and look out for any relevant error messages
[16:46] <SonikkuAmerica> Arcs: what are you using? Live? Alternate? OBI? (also #lubuntu is a better place to talk)
[16:47] <kristen> hi
 it was using persistant mode and installed through that using USB latest edition
[16:49] <Sonderblade> juk: then perhaps its not a big deal that the extension is missing
[16:49] <atma111> Connection does not connect because I have not allowed my ubuntu server is not listening to Connect (have ubuntu server squid3 2lans localnetwork windows7 conect internet proxy but no conect games online wow,stem,starcraft2)
[16:50] <SonikkuAmerica> Arcs: well I have to go now...
[16:50] <mrvortex`> hello everyone. I'd like to create two NICs for a ubuntu virtual machine, one of bridge  and one of NAT, can someone kindly told me how to do that?
[16:52] <compdoc> never heard of a nat nic
[16:52] <llutz> mrvortex`: open virtualbox manager, go to your vm, select network, add adapter2, set nat/bridge like you want
[16:52] <juk> Sonderblade: hm, kinda sucks
[16:52] <llutz> mrvortex`: or aren't you talking about virtualbox? details pls
[16:53] <mrvortex`> the host OS is fedora 19. and i am using virt-manager to create the VM
[16:53] <juk> Sonderblade: is that the reason mouse pointer is flicking?
[16:54] <bekks> mrvortex`: However you have to configure your vm - when it results in ubuntu seeing two network devices you did it right.
[16:54] <zee> trying to hot-add memory on an ubuntu VM (12.0.4 LTS), but it does not allocate in the VM without a reboot?
[16:55] <zee> any idea why this is happening?
[16:55] <Sonderblade> juk: i've never experienced mouse pointer flicker
[16:55] <bekks> zee: Because linux doesnt support memory hot add.
[16:55] <zee> are you sure?
[16:55] <bekks> zee: At least not on non-NUMA nodes.
[16:55] <zee> ok
[16:55] <zee> guess thats why I am baffled
[16:56] <juk> Sonderblade: well, good for you, that's nvidia...
[16:56] <mrvortex`> do i need use the tunctl command to create a virtual NIC before editing the network interface configure file?
[16:57] <bekks> mrvortex`: You dont have to run a single command in ubuntu to configure your vm (outside of ubuntu) for having two nics.
[16:57] <o_m_g> hi
[16:58] <zykotick9> mrvortex`: you might want to try asking #virt on irc.oftc.net
[16:58] <o_m_g> how r u all
[16:58] <bekks> mrvortex`: Keep it in the channel please. If you dont configure your vm "right", you wont see two nics in your vm.
[17:00] <mrvortex`> then how to configure it right? In virt-manager i can't see the option to add an NIC
[17:02] <mrvortex`> the virt-manager tool of fedora seems to be different with the RHEL version which contains the option of managing NICs in VM details
[17:02] <bekks> mrvortex`: Ask Fedora and ##virt on how to do that please :)
[17:03] <Guest87819> Hi! I'm trying to install 13.10 with two physical disks and encryption
[17:04] <Guest87819> I'm having a lot of trouble with the installer
[17:04] <mrvortex`> OK I will have a try, is there some way to create a virtual NIC by run a command , like tunctl, brctl(for bridge)?
[17:04] <bekks> mrvortex`: You dont need to do that in your guest at all.
[17:04] <Guest87819> If I use the default setup, the installer only seems to be able to use one of my disks
[17:05] <Guest87819> If I use a custom setup, I have trouble with swap
[17:05] <beak> Greetings all, what is the command to clean up my system and remove clutter?
[17:05] <Guest87819> one of the following three things happens: 1. I setup no swap. The installer complains, but I am allowed to proceed. This is clearly suboptimal in my setup, as I do want some swap
[17:05] <mrvortex`> you mean you did the configuration in VM manager tools,like virtualbox and kvm et...?
[17:06] <bekks> mrvortex`: Yes.
[17:06] <raysaas> > Guest87819: Please specify ur machine configuration here. U can setup swap later.
[17:06] <Guest87819> 2. I setup a two different physical partitions for encrypted swap and non-swap
[17:07] <Guest87819> raysaas, What configuration info would you like?
[17:07] <Guest87819> raysaas, and how can I setup swap later?
[17:08] <bekks> Guest87819: create a partition/volume, use mkswap and swapon.
[17:08] <Guest87819> in #2, the installer thinks there isn't an encrypted swap partition, and it calls this a fatal error
[17:08] <raysaas> >Guest7819:  For swap please check this out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[17:09] <Guest87819> bekks, I am a bit confused about that - the installer is very picky about where the swap is
[17:09] <maciek1> Hi all
[17:09] <Guest87819> bekks, it wants it to be encrypted in  its own physical volume
[17:10] <subz3r0> im searching the option in dconf editor where i can set the option that i can change the size of windows with the arrows in the corners
[17:11] <subz3r0> e.g Systemconfiguration wont let me change the size. any idea where i can find it in dconf editor
[17:11] <subz3r0> ?
[17:11] <beak> streamtuner2 is broken, how do I fix?
[17:11] <subz3r0> beak: "broken" is not a fully qualified problem explanation.
[17:12] <beak> subz3r0, You can fix?
[17:12] <Guest87819> let me try to ask this question another way:
[17:12] <bekks> beak: Describe your actual issue before, please.
[17:12] <subz3r0> beak: sure, ill ask my crystall ball and then do the magic...
[17:12] <Guest87819> I would like to install Ubuntu on two disks.
[17:12] <Guest87819> The first disk need not be encrypted. I'd like to put OS files and whatnot there. Perhaps /boot
[17:13] <Guest87819> I'd like the second disk to be encrypted, and I'd like it to have my swap and /home
[17:13] <beak> subz3r0, I click on the channels and vlc does not fire up with the stream I wish, like it did since I first used it. I click on it and nothing happens. It worked okay until the last two months. Would you like me to give you the output via pastebin?
[17:13] <bekks> Guest87819: Then just encrypt your /home and put that on the second disk. Encrypting swap while not encrypting the rest of the system is nonsense.
[17:13] <Guest87819> And I'd like it to be decryptable with one password, so two physical volumes for encryption is not ideal
[17:14] <subz3r0> Guest87819:  I guess using LUKS(dm-crypt) with a lvm would be a good start. /boot wont be encrypted. but its not necessary
[17:14] <Guest87819> bekks, I did not mean to imply I wanted to encrypt swap without encrypting the rest of the system
[17:14] <Guest87819> Also, the installer doesn't seem to let me use two disks without a custom setup
[17:14] <marcoagner> Wat
[17:15] <Guest87819> but the custom setup is what I am having problems with - it doesn't seem to let me set up one volume on which I have both swap and /home
[17:15] <subz3r0> beak: i dont use it with vlc. i use it to grab radiostreams from the terminal
[17:15] <bekks> Guest87819: If you want to put the operatng system files on the first disk, which is unencrypted, the rest, besides swap and home IS unencrypted.
[17:15] <marcoagner> marco12.com
[17:15] <beak> subz3r0, I watch the videos
[17:15] <beak> subz3r0, There is an anime channel I really like
[17:16] <Guest87819> bekks, yes, I would like the first disk to have the OS, and be unencrypted, while the second has /home and swap and is encrypted
[17:16] <beak> subz3r0, VLC works fine, on its own, but the streamtuner2 is broken, i think
[17:16] <Guest87819> but I am having trouble getting the custom installer to do so
[17:16] <bekks> Guest87819: having the OS unencrypted and swap encrypted is nonsense.
[17:16] <beak> subz3r0, I purged and reinstalled to no avail
[17:16] <neongas> how large can a liveCD be? Can a machine having 1GB RAM boot a 2GB liveDVD?
[17:16] <bekks> Guest87819: Just encrypt your home on the second disk.
[17:16] <subz3r0> beak: first you talked about streamtuner2, now its vlc. well open streamtuner within a shell and check for errors
[17:16] <bekks> neongas: Sure.
[17:16] <Guest87819> bekks, to your first question, why?
[17:17] <Guest87819> To your second question, I would love to do that, but I can't figure out how to get the installer to let me do that
[17:17] <bekks> Guest87819: Because your OS may be accessed and changed without you even noticing it.
[17:17] <Guest87819> I am willing to risk that attack vector
[17:17] <beak> subz3r0, That is because streamtuner2 and vlc are connected
[17:17] <subz3r0> Guest87819: what ubuntu version?
[17:17] <bekks> Guest87819: Do a normal install. Put /home on the second disk. You will be asked wether /home shall be encrypted. Answer yes. Done.
[17:17] <hunter_> algum br ai?
[17:17] <hunter_> #brasil
[17:18] <Guest87819> subz3r0, 13.10
[17:18] <DJones> !br | hunter_
[17:18] <subz3r0> !br | hunter_
[17:18] <Guest87819> bekks, hm. I can't seem to get the "normal" install to let me put home on the second disk.
[17:18] <beak> subz3r0, http://pastebin.com/NzUG9wLN
[17:18] <subz3r0> Guest87819: so the installer should allow you easily to use dm-crypt and create a lvm with it
[17:18] <subz3r0> with 12.04 is was different(there you needed the alternate cd)
[17:18] <bekks> Guest87819: USe a custom layout, dont mess with encryption and just answer yes when being asked.
[17:19] <Guest87819> subz3r0, I see two installer options, custom and the default, and the default doesn't seem to let me use the second disk in any configuration, LVM or not
[17:20] <Guest87819> bekks, using a custom layout seems to require more than just answering yes when being asked on my machine
[17:20] <subz3r0> beak: since i dont use streamtuner2 and yours looks like messed up.. i would deinstall it and reinstall it then. "sudo apt-get purge packetname"
[17:21] <anon12> when mounting an external hard drive on a directory called hd I get: mount: warning: hd/ seems to be mounted read-only. the owner is set to root and I can't change the permissions using chown or chmod
[17:21] <beak> subz3r0, Been there, done that.
[17:21] <bekks> Guest87819: using a custom layout does not require more.
[17:21] <Guest87819> bekks, Do you mena answer yes when asked about the encrypted /home? I could probably do that. That might be easier
[17:21] <zykotick9> anon12: is it a fat/ntfs parition?
[17:22] <subz3r0> beak: before you reinstall check if /usr/bin/streamtuner2 is empty
[17:22] <subz3r0> since most errors relates to that folder
[17:22] <subz3r0> -s
[17:22] <anon12> zykotick9, How would I check for a terminal? I think ntfs or ext
[17:22] <Guest87819> bekks, I guess we are witnessing different things, than. My custom layout screen just shows my physical hardware and its existing partitions. It does not set them up for me in a way that enables installation without further work
[17:22] <zykotick9> anon12: try "mount" to check
[17:22] <anon12> ntfs
[17:23] <zykotick9> anon12: i can't/won't help then.  good luck.  fyi, you can't use chown/chmod on fat or ntfs paritions, it's all "how it's mounted" - i don't know the details.
[17:24] <anon12> zykotick9, is there any documentation on ntfs?
[17:24] <zykotick9> anon12: (for use in ubuntu) i'd guess there is...  good luck.
[17:27] <OmnIcK> hi! :-) How can I find deps for a package?
[17:28] <zykotick9> OmnIcK: "apt-cache depends foo" is one way (assuming the package is in the repo)
[17:28] <OmnIcK> zykotick9: thanks! :-)
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> OmnIcK  apt-cache depends foo
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> zykotick9  was faster :)
[17:29] <OmnIcK> MonkeyDust: Thanks. ;-)
[17:30] <OmnIcK> How to reinstall a package and all deps? (must I add all "by hand"?)
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> OmnIcK  apt-get install foo --reinstall
[17:31] <silvy> sera
[17:31] <silvy> !list
[17:31] <silvy> help
[17:31] <bekks> !it | silvy
[17:32] <silvy> thank
[17:33] <silvy_> join #ubuntu-it
[17:36] <silvy_> sera
[17:36] <silvy_> !list
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> silvy_  type /joun #ubuntu-it    that's with a /
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> silvy_  type /join #ubuntu-it    that's with a /
[17:39] <zx42o> hello while installing Ubuntu Desktop 12.04 LTS, I am having a repeated issue with a pop-up message "wired connection - disconnected you are now disconnected",  while troubleshooting this I installed a wireless adapter and now it says "wireless connection - disconnected you are now disconnected" LOL
[17:39] <MonkeyDust> zx42o  lol, but can you surf?
[18:00] <Annabel_> hey folks hate to come here and ask a silly question but I have a Digital Ocean VPS which has 2GB of RAM. Should I chose 12.04.3 LTS 64 or 32 bit?
[18:00] <Annabel_> I do not intend to upgrade past 3GB of RAM. I honestly cannot ever foresee needing to.
[18:00] <mazinho> pessoal meu som parou de funcionar
[18:00] <mazinho> albuem pode me ajudar
[18:01] <subz3r0> Annabel_: depends on the cpu
[18:01] <Annabel_> The VPS offered 64bit as an option (they install default ubuntu for you)
[18:01] <daftykins> Annabel_: 32-bit would be fine, really depends what you're going to run
[18:01] <Annabel_> So I assume their CPUs are capable of 64bit
[18:01] <subz3r0> Annabel_: but since its virtualized machine...
[18:01] <subz3r0> use 32bit
[18:01] <daftykins> Annabel_: although planning for the future is always good
[18:02] <Annabel_> I intend to run a simple MTA with roundcube/sieve and LAMP
[18:02] <subz3r0> daftykins: planning for what? its a virtualized server...
[18:02] <Annabel_> Perhaps 15-20 websites, half of which utilise wordpress. all low traffic small business sites
[18:02] <subz3r0> Annabel_: correct me if im wrong, but you rented it? so there is no future :)
[18:03] <Annabel_> I don't understand what you mean by "there is no future" ?
[18:03] <subz3r0> Annabel_: go for 32bit. 64bit makes no sense with 2 gigs of ram
[18:03] <mazinho> niguem pode me ajudar
[18:03] <MonkeyDust> !pt
[18:04] <subz3r0> Annabel_: daftykins advice was to plan for the future. but since you rented for the server, there is no "future". its not your line or hardware. so that does not matter
[18:04] <subz3r0> -for
[18:04] <MonkeyDust> Annabel_  if you're not certain, then use 32bit
[18:04] <Annabel_> I see what you mean. I am able to upgrade to a maximum of 96GB, 96 cores if I wanted to with digital ocean
[18:04] <Annabel_> I won't ever need anywhere near that lol
[18:05] <subz3r0> no idea what digital ocean is... i guess its a provider
[18:05] <daftykins> subz3r0: software reinstall future though ;D
[18:05] <subz3r0> daftykins: :D
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> https://www.digitalocean.com/
[18:05] <Annabel_> That was kind of my primary issue
[18:05] <Annabel_> How long will people like dovecot/postfix/apache etc support 32bit OS's ?
[18:06] <subz3r0> i would prefer a dedicated one. but thats just my opinion... i dont like to share :P
[18:06] <subz3r0> even not my meal! :p
[18:06] <tyteen4a04> hey - I'm on 13.10 and terminal emulator seems to not work. I open it up and it doesn't show anything at all (normally you would see the user and command prompt bit). any pointers?
[18:07] <zipace> Annabel_: probably for a very, very long time, seeing as how most 64bit processors are backwards compatible to 32bit
[18:07] <Annabel_> This isn't one of those cheap shares, my hardware is dedicated to the point that the CPU/RAM/SSD is all mine to use up
[18:07] <Annabel_> Someone with a high traffic site can't use up 95% of my CPU allocation
[18:07] <zipace> tyteen4a04: what kind of terminal emulator are you using (gnome, kde, xfce, lxde, etc)?
[18:07] <DexterF> tyteen4a04: try anotehr emulator like a simple xterm. if that works its the emulator, if that does not work, too, something is strange about your ~/.bash* files
[18:08] <Annabel_> subz3r0: Okay folks you've been most helpful. I was kind of leaning toward 32bit purely because my existing Linode uses it x
[18:08] <tyteen4a04> zipace: I have xfce
[18:08] <subz3r0> Annabel_: did i mention that in any way?
[18:08] <tyteen4a04> DexterF: xterm works
[18:08] <Annabel_> subz3r0: hehe no I guess not x
[18:08] <subz3r0> Annabel_: but you an be sure, most providers wont provide the stuff you payed for. but most users arent able to check that
[18:08] <tyteen4a04> does that mean I should ask in #xfce?
[18:08] <subz3r0> can
[18:08] <zykotick9> DexterF: s/emulator/terminal emualtor/ or just terminal - an emulator is typically something different
[18:08] <zipace> tyteen4a04: okay, paste your ~/.bashrc to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ (BUT MAKE SURE TO REMOVE DELICATE INFORMATION!!)
[18:09] <DexterF> when I install 13.10 from scratch, will it detect SSDs properly and align partitions, set proper fstab options, map certain mounts to ram?
[18:09] <computerguy901> welcome to Wally's world!
[18:09] <subz3r0> Annabel_: anyways. have fun with the service. and like the others said too... youll be fine with 32 bit
[18:09] <subz3r0> :)
[18:09] <Annabel_> Thanks <3
[18:09] <zipace> tyteen4a04: ignore my previous comment, haha
[18:09] <bcuraboy> hi guys.im having a problem.im running pear os 8,and after i made the updates and upgrades i cant boot.
[18:09] <DexterF> zykotick9: ...
[18:10] <Beldar> DexterF, you would have to align the partitions if you have a specific schema.
[18:10] <zipace> bcuraboy: do you get any kind of boot messages?
[18:10] <tyteen4a04> zipace: yeah, a shell script with delicate information...
[18:10] <bcuraboy> it tells to me : keys: press s to skip mounting or m for manual recovery..
[18:10] <zipace> bcuraboy: take a screenshot, or tak a picture or something, if it's very long
[18:10] <bcuraboy> ive tried both options but still no boot...
[18:10] <DexterF> Beldar: nothing fancy. boot root home.
[18:10] <Beldar> DexterF, A swap would be set up as normal, the install does not setup optimization in other words.
[18:11] <bcuraboy> no boot messages
[18:11] <zipace> tyteen4a04: well, idk about you, but some people do have some private data in their bashrc files, hence why i warned you to check twice before uploading such files
[18:11] <Beldar> DexterF, a swap and a partition for the install on auto install
[18:11] <tyteen4a04> if it helps: 1. I did a partial upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 (for whatever reason), 2. terminal window seems to say that it is a GNOME terminal (3.6.1)
[18:11] <DexterF> zipace: which is good advice in general
[18:11] <zipace> DexterF: yup
[18:12] <bcuraboy> also ive made a fresh install in a clean disk,so i dont know what could cause the problem...
[18:12] <DexterF> Beldar: come again?
[18:12] <Beldar> DexterF, where?
[18:12] <DexterF> Beldar: what?
[18:12] <zipace> bcuraboy: fsck is running, just be patient
[18:12] <Beldar> DexterF, YOu do not understand be specific where.
[18:12] <tyteen4a04> zipace: I didn't really customize my OS that much, still getting used to switching from windows
[18:12] <zipace> bcuraboy: fsck = filesystem check, i.e., it checks your partitions for errors, and will continue booting once it's done
[18:13] <DexterF> Beldar: I have some trouble following you, I have to say: <Beldar> DexterF, a swap and a partition for the install on auto install
[18:13] <zipace> tyteen4a04: alrighty, just keep in mind not to upload arbitrary files without censoring potentially private information is all i'm saying
[18:13] <bcuraboy> so the only thing to do is wait?
[18:13] <tyteen4a04> zipace: yeah, I get it
[18:13] <zipace> bcuraboy: for better or worse, yes
[18:14] <tyteen4a04> zipace: back to my problem: you know of anything I can try?
[18:14] <bcuraboy> even in a fresh install?
[18:14] <Beldar> DexterF, Ubuntu does the same auto install for a regular hd and a ssd a swap partition and a partition for the OS, any other is your responsibility.
[18:14] <zipace> bcuraboy: fsck checks usually indicate that your filesystem *may* have errors, so it's best to play the waiting game
[18:14] <DexterF> Beldar: got it
[18:15] <bcuraboy> ok.. :/
[18:15] <bcuraboy> thanks guys
[18:15] <zipace> tyteen4a04: difficult to say, as i use KDE, and i could only guess what might cause gnome-terminal to behave that way
[18:16] <Beldar> DexterF, If you are dual booting with a uefi however if installed in uefi it will install in that format.
[18:16] <zipace> tyteen4a04: as others said, you can try your luck in #xfce, as well as #gnome, they might be more specialised with this sort of problem
[18:17] <tyteen4a04> zipace: yeah
[18:20] <mommi> hallo
[18:26] <jbruce> I'm currently following the DisklessUbuntuHowto tutorial and I'm really stuck on getting nfs mounted during the boot process. Anyone have any experience with this process?
[18:27] <MonkeyDust> jbruce  with nfs yes, not with diskless
[18:29] <jbruce> MonkeyDust: I think the main issue I'm having is with nfs. I'm hitting a kernel panic when it tries to mount my nfs share during the boot process. I've checked my server logs and it doesn't actually ever try to contact the nfs server (but it has pulled an ip address).
[18:29] <MonkeyDust> jbruce  guess that would be more for #ubuntu-server
[18:29] <jbruce> oh cool
[18:29] <MonkeyDust> jbruce  just looked up the howto
[18:29] <jbruce> I can try that too
[18:39] <SrRaven> So, ill ask again, how do I boot from USB ? Its a macbook pro 8.1 that has a "broken" ubuntu 13.10 installation
[18:40] <MonkeyDust> !usb
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> SrRaven  use a program to install an iso on usb, insert usb stick in laptop, boot from usb
[18:41] <SrRaven> ...so your answer to my question how I boot from USB is to tell me to boot from USB ? :p
[18:42] <Beldar> !mac
[18:42] <SrRaven> and yes, I know the mac page
[18:42] <SrRaven> that aint helping either
[18:42] <Beldar> SrRaven, Not many here use apples, have some patience and give details.
[18:43] <SrRaven> well, at the moment I simply need it to boot from USB so I can reinstall as my old one is broken
[18:43] <SrRaven> which happened because I followed someone here (meh) and upgraded the video drivers
[18:43] <Beldar> SrRaven, we are not bound to help you this is free help you get what you pay for.
[18:43] <SrRaven> which,according to other websites, are broken
[18:44] <Fohlen> Sonderblade, update was going fine ... now running ubuntu 13.04 ... only had to rebuild nvidia-current with depmod (only thing I had to do manually)
[18:44] <Fohlen> everything else worked just fine
[18:44] <SrRaven> yes Beldar I know that and I appreciate it, but I'm not a fan from "take these links and figure something out"
[18:44] <Fohlen> :)
[18:44] <alokyadav15> see ubuntu documentation how to boot from usb
[18:44] <daftykins> SrRaven: you want to be holding alt after powering on, are you not getting a choice of your USB drive when you do this?
[18:45] <SrRaven> im not seeing the usb drive no
[18:45] <alokyadav15> SrRaven: which os do u have alive
[18:45] <alokyadav15> ?
[18:45]  * Beldar thanks a higher power for the ignore
[18:46] <SrRaven> arrogance is a bliss
[18:46] <_bart> Hi I'm using UFW, but somehow it doesn't allow my connection to port 25: https://gist.github.com/bartolsthoorn/23e3b67ca9c51d951a67
[18:46] <Fohlen> Beldar, keep in mind this is an open support channel ... people are not payed nor forced to answer you
[18:46] <Fohlen> be glad if they do
[18:47] <Beldar> Fohlen, I asked for no help
[18:47] <llutz> _bart: but there is a service listening on port 25?
[18:47] <Beldar> Fohlen, I have been on here for years supporting, I never ask for help.
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> SrRaven  basically, yes, you asked my how to boot from usb, so I told you how
[18:48] <Sonderblade> Fohlen: good for you, updates have gone wrong for me many times which is why i never recommend it for inexperienced users
[18:48] <_bart> llutz: yes, doing the same thing from the server itself works fine and shows a postfix message
[18:48] <bekks> Beldar: Yesterday or the day before was the last time you asked.
[18:48] <bekks> Beldar: however.
[18:48] <Beldar> bekks, on what?
[18:48] <llutz> _bart: and postfix listens on external ip and not localhost-only?
[18:49] <Fohlen> sorry than Beldar, you might know then that beeing a supporter means beeing a retarded bastard ... so don't bother people if they ignore you
[18:49] <Fohlen> its common behavoir on irc
[18:49] <_bart> llutz: hmm that's a good question
[18:49] <bekks> Beldar: you would have to look up the logs - I dont memorize what people ask in high frequent channels like this.
[18:49] <llutz> _bart: sudo lsof -i :25   on server
[18:49] <Beldar> Fohlen, I bothered no one.
[18:49] <kostkon> Beldar, though i knew you, wilee ;)
[18:49] <DJones> Fohlen: Please be polite, there's a policy of no swearing in the channel
[18:49] <Beldar> bekks, You are wrong I asked for no help is all.
[18:49] <Fohlen> DJones, I'm just telling truth :P
[18:49] <Fohlen> :D
[18:50] <Fohlen> (19:45:24) ***Beldar thanks a higher power for the ignore >> so far on "I bother noone"
[18:50] <DJones> Fohlen: Well its not appropriate for the channel, so please don't in future
[18:50] <Beldar> Fohlen, That is a open generalized comment
[18:50] <_bart> llutz: https://gist.github.com/bartolsthoorn/72041b988127ec8b7e8f
[18:50] <Fohlen> k, I try to keep that in mind
[18:51] <_bart> llutz: but maybe I should check the postfix conf
[18:51] <llutz> _bart: couldn't harm, but *.smtp means listens on all ifaces
[18:52] <_bart> llutz: any other ideas what could be blocking it? Maybe you'd like to see the iptables?
[18:52] <_bart> (they are generated by ufw)
[18:53] <llutz> _bart: i'm not familiar with ufw, but the "tcp/25 allow incoming from anywhere" sounds correct. Other rules shouldn't affect that
[18:54] <Fohlen> DJones, I'm a supporter in many channels too ... like for years ... sometimes supporting people just requires to be ingorant and retarded
[18:54] <Fohlen> :)
[18:54] <Fohlen> was not about swearing or hesitating anyone
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> Fohlen  we get the message, let's move on, shall we
[18:54] <Fohlen> k
[18:55] <llutz> _bart: does it work if you switch ufw off for a short test?
[18:55] <llutz> _bart: that'll mean that postfix works correct.
[18:57] <_bart> llutz: nope, so maybe it's postfix that is not properly listening with the wrong conf, not about the firewall, I'll check
[18:58] <uBUXUBu> can i load and run my OS (buntu1204) off of a new 32gb pny thumb drive?
[18:58] <uBUXUBu> and have it run fast
[18:58] <uBUXUBu> someone in hardware just told me yes but it will run slow??
[18:58] <MonkeyDust> uBUXUBu  it's called a !persistent installation
[18:59] <uBUXUBu> too me it should run like a ssd
[18:59] <uBUXUBu> im seeing 32gb drives for 15 dollars
[18:59] <Beldar> uBUXUBu, externals run a bit slower is all even if usb3
[18:59] <uBUXUBu> is that fast MonkeyDust
[18:59] <uBUXUBu> is it faster than x7200 mechanical dives?
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> uBUXUBu  depends on what you call fast
[19:00] <uBUXUBu> fast is faster than modern 7200 drives
[19:00] <uBUXUBu> fast is like my kingston ssd
[19:02] <steve_fi> uBUXUBu, that depends on how fast the USB drive is
[19:03] <prashant_123456> anyone here using i3 window manager ?
[19:04] <jhutchins> uBUXUBu: I can tell you that running Linux off of a USB2 drive is going to be painfully slow.
[19:04] <llutz> usb3 works fine, but slow compared to internal ssd
[19:04] <jhutchins> uBUXUBu: I haven't tried it with USB3.  Linux typically does not perform well on USB connections.
[19:04] <jhutchins> Internal SSD is REALLY fast.
[19:05] <jhutchins> Noticible difference between ssd and 10k drives.
[19:05] <kostkon> !anyone | prashant_123456
[19:05] <kostkon> :/
[19:06] <uBUXUBu> ty jhutchins
[19:06] <prashant_123456> yes u r right $mod + d not working in my i3 window manager
[19:06] <uBUXUBu> if it doesnt perform fast i dont need it
[19:07] <Guerrilla> how do you play a dvd movie in the cd player on lubuntu
[19:07] <llutz> uBUXUBu: usb2 is never fast, it cannot be, by design
[19:07] <zykotick9> prashant_123456: i'd suggest looking for an i3 channel, i doubt many *buntu people use it...  good luck.
[19:08] <Beldar> Guerrilla, Have you installed the lubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:08] <uBUXUBu> bummer sounded like fun
[19:08] <Guerrilla> not sure
[19:08] <Guerrilla> whats the command
[19:08] <uBUXUBu> ithink it would be great to have a fast protable OS
[19:08] <Beldar> Guerrilla, sudo apt-get install lubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:08] <uBUXUBu> portable*
[19:09] <prashant_123456> ok
[19:09] <Beldar> uBUXUBu, There are some fast tablets.
[19:09] <Beldar> and laptops
[19:10] <Guerrilla> it only plays for a second
[19:10] <Guerrilla> then it comes off
[19:10] <Guerrilla> it only lets me explore the disk
[19:10] <Guerrilla> i just want to run the movie
[19:10] <Beldar> Guerrilla, Try several dvd's
[19:11] <belgianguy> Guerrilla: tried VLC?
[19:11] <Guerrilla> is there a way to make it auto run
[19:11] <Beldar> Guerrilla, Isolate that it may be this one.
[19:11] <Guerrilla> idk if i  have vlc
[19:13] <Beldar> Guerrilla, vlc is the same apt-get install
[19:13] <Guerrilla> k
[19:13] <Guerrilla> just ran it
[19:14] <Beldar> Guerrilla, here is some more info related to the restricted extras and dvd's. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[19:14] <Guerrilla> Playback failure:
[19:14] <Guerrilla> DVDRead could not open the disc "/dev/dvd".
[19:14] <Guerrilla> Your input can't be opened:
[19:14] <Guerrilla> VLC is unable to open the MRL 'dvd:///dev/dvd'. Check the log for details.
[19:14] <Guerrilla> Playback failure:
[19:14] <FloodBot1> Guerrilla: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:14] <Guerrilla> DVDRead could not open the disc "/dev/dvd".
[19:21] <uBUXUBu> lotta ppl comoin and goin here
[19:22] <a_> a
[19:22] <uBUXUBu> see
[19:23] <Beldar> uBUXUBu, Many irc apps allow you to have that off if you like
[19:23] <uBUXUBu> o cool
[19:23] <uBUXUBu> my whole screen is loaded with them
[19:23] <Beldar> it can be disconcerting
[19:24] <uBUXUBu> in fact, the activity of pl coming and going far exceeds the tech chat by prolly 25:1 ratio
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> uBUXUBu  you can hide those meesages
[19:29] <bugtraq> hola
[19:31] <Tex_Nick> hello
[19:31] <bugtraq> hi
[19:35] <spexi> Hi! If I would like to install Ubuntu now, which version is the best when you think of the future and upgrading to 14.04 LTS? So if I don't want to do clean install with 14.04, is it better to upgrade from 12.04 LTS or for example 13.10?
[19:37] <SrRaven> alright so my ubuntu 13.10 seems to work, whats the easiest way to make a full image of it so I can put that on if worse comes to worse?
[19:38] <kostkon> spexi, it wouldn't matter, only 4 months are left for 14.04 so you might as well install 13.10
[19:39] <Pyrric> Whats up guys
[19:41] <theowner997> Hello I am trying to run Android Kitchen on Ubuntu , I am new to Linux please help me :)
[19:41] <SrRaven> you sure you want to use android kitchen ? its quite complicated
[19:41] <SrRaven> and linux isnt much easier
[19:42] <theowner997> Just tell me how to run it :)
[19:42] <SrRaven> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5626300&postcount=3
[19:42] <SrRaven> Go there and read it up,explained there in detail.
[19:44] <anon12> theowner997, Are you trying to run an Android app on Ubuntu?
[19:44] <SrRaven> android kitchen is a custom rom "maker"
[19:44] <anon12> ok
[19:44] <Beldar> theowner997, have you looked here there are specifics mentioned for ubuntu. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633246
[19:45] <Tex_Nick> spexi: 13.04 was really stable for me, however support for it will end shortly ... I'm currently using 13.10 and is is still a bit flakey on this box ... 12.04 is rock solid stable ... so either 12.04 or 13.10 & I don't think you'll really find much benifit in 13.10 vs 12.04
[19:45] <Beldar> theowner997, post #3
[19:45] <SrRaven> so....where is my usb stick :s
[19:47] <spexi> thanks kostkon and Tex_Nick, I guess I'll go with 13.10 then
[19:49] <uBUXUBu> lotta spam here
[19:49] <Beldar> uBUXUBu, PM spam?
[19:49] <uBUXUBu> no public
[19:49] <theowner997> Followed all steps but still can't run it.
[19:50] <uBUXUBu> ping timeouts like crazy
[19:50] <uBUXUBu> someone must be messing with the servers
[19:50] <Tex_Nick> uBUXUBu: that's not spam ;)
[19:51] <Beldar> theowner997, Part of the problem here is this is not a ubuntu app, it's 3rd party, I doubt many here if any have used it, I have never heard of it till now, as well 3rd patry stuff is technically not supported. This does not mean you will get no help, it just may be sporadic.
[19:51] <uBUXUBu> yeah i know but its not good
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> uBUXUBu  what's your irc client?
[19:53] <Beldar> uBUXUBu, time outs in that you get knocked off the channel?
[19:54] <uBUXUBu> no tons of others
[19:54] <Beldar> I have the join and leave off
[19:55] <MonkeyDust> uBUXUBu  please hide those messages, so they don't bother you anymore (and you stop telling how much they bother you)
[19:55] <Beldar> +1
[19:57] <Beldar> !away > GTB3NW_AWAY
[20:03] <tsnyph> need some help please. i changed by linux password, and now both my passwords work. wtf?
[20:03] <Beldar> tsnyph, both?
[20:03] <tsnyph> yes both
[20:03] <tsnyph> when i sudo su i can use both passwords and they work
[20:03] <Beldar> tsnyph, what both?
[20:03] <alokyadav15> tsnyph: lolz thats funhy
[20:03] <alokyadav15> funny
[20:04] <alokyadav15> hahhaha
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> tsnyph  there's only 1 password, the one you use to login is the same as sudo
[20:05] <tsnyph> im telling you both my passwords work
[20:05] <Beldar> tsnyph, Did you make a root password besides the user password?
[20:07] <tsnyph> this is what i did, i loged in as root so sudo su then i typed passwd, it promted me for a new password and i changed it, confimed it, then exit
[20:07] <alokyadav15> tsnyph: your pass match with some other users with sudo permissions thats why its happening
[20:08] <Beldar> tsnyph, Your not supposed to make a password in  root in ubuntu
[20:08] <tsnyph> how do i fix it?
[20:09] <Beldar> tsnyph, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[20:10] <tendor> hello guys
[20:11] <regorianer> hey, a question about ttyUSBx: is it possible to configure a usbHUB, so that i can define, which device can be connected to which port and only this port? better i explain using a simple example: lets assume there a 5 different usb device with different functionalities but equal meta information, so that the kernel cannot determine which type of usb device was connected. so what happens if i plug in a usb device, it gets mounted as ttyUSB0 
[20:11] <regorianer> the next as ttyUSB1 an so on. that make it impossible to determine which device is the device to use within a program if the order of plug-ins is changed. what i need is a port (lets say ttyUSB1) that only handles usb device of type X. in simple words i need to secure, that the HUB mounts as the ports are located (e.g. always port0 as ttyUSB0, port1 as ttyUSB1 and so on - if no device on port0 is not connected the device connected on port1 
[20:11] <regorianer> be mounted as ttyUSB1 and not ttyUSB0).
[20:11] <tendor> anyone who could help me with a disc recovery (i'm don't wanna screw up)? i've send a friend a command for creating bootable usb and didn't know that he had two hdds in pc, so sdb indicated to that disc...
[20:13] <Beldar> tendor, Relying on us for your mistakes implicitly is not a fair scenario, however testdisk is a good recovery tool.
[20:14] <Beldar> tendor, The best scenario here would your friend having images/clones
[20:15] <aghinugrohod> http://www.pornhub.com/
[20:15] <aghinugrohod> http://www.pornhub.com/
[20:15] <FloodBot1> aghinugrohod: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:15] <Beldar> !ops | aghinugrohod
[20:17] <tendor> Beldar, thanks i know that is my screw up, i just dont want to screw it up more it is 500gb disc, that had two partitions with 250gb, i want to primarly save the second part
[20:18] <Beldar> tendor, we can't really guarantee anything though.
[20:19] <tendor> Beldar, i know
[20:23] <SmallJoker> Hello, how can I _decrease_ my OpenGL version or remove the wrong graphic driver?
[20:24] <SrRaven> what settings do I need to enable so I can enter a machine from within the network?
[20:25] <jhutchins> SrRaven: What do you mean by "enter"?
[20:25] <Jumpie> hey guys
[20:25] <Jumpie> not exactly sure which part, but i have confirmed t hat apt-get upgrade is causing my system to hang at boot splash screen
[20:25] <SrRaven> use ssh to log in
[20:25] <Jumpie> strangely dmesg doesnt show anything quirky
[20:25] <SrRaven> so I dont have to switch from this PC to the laptop over and over
[20:25] <Jumpie> is there a way to revert this command or narrow downe xactly what caused the hang? the actual upgrade was successful
[20:26] <SmallJoker> Anyone? Is there a tutorial to remove the existing graphic driver?
[20:26] <SrRaven> I think you have to remove the xorg file, but ive been using linux for 1 day now :/
[20:27] <jhutchins> SrRaven: No, don't have to do anything with xorg, just enable sshd.
[20:27] <SmallJoker> Well, I'm using ubuntu now since 2 days, but I've reinstalled that applicaton aleready serval times and nothing changed
[20:27] <jhutchins> SrRaven: I'm not sure it's installed by default.
[20:30] <SrRaven> how would I check that?
[20:33] <dufa> SrRaven: in order to aneble ssh login you need to install the server. you can find the openssh server in the package "ssh"
[20:34] <SrRaven> thanks
[20:34] <jhutchins> SrRaven: I don't have access to an Ubuntu system at the moment, but if it's in the ssh package then it should be installed, you just have to enable it as a service and start it.
[20:35] <jhutchins> SrRaven: Configurable in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[20:35] <SrRaven> thanks !
[20:36] <kreuger> hey all
[20:36] <alokyadav15> hello
[20:37] <linux_dr> I'm trying to grok the upstart intro/cookbook, but I'm feeling a bit on a wild goose chase... can someone here point me to an easy way (maybe in the upstart cookbook) to have OpenSSHd come up AFTER everything else in the system is up and running? I'm defaulting to run level 2 in Saucy Salaander Server.
[20:37] <linux_dr> (this is all within Vagrant and virtual box)
[20:37] <shawn1963> is this the support channel?
[20:38] <shawn1963> durrr never mind I can't read
[20:38] <shawn1963> I need a bit of help on an install to a 32Gb flashdrive.
[20:39] <dragonfly> shawn1963, what is the issue you are having?
[20:40] <kreuger> Im having an issue logging in
[20:40] <Merphis-0x71> hey 0x71 (xc) Our code two of which is Mepis and Morphos http://www.mepis.org and http://morphos.de come to efnet #0x71.org to discuss it and http://0x71.org/2013/12/22/0x71-xc-our-boss-coded-2-os-for-all-of-you-not-even-me-skraito-understand-what-it-is-you-can-try-it-ourselve-of-course-is-super-power-is-coded-by-god-our-boss-which-is-jesus-christ-all-glory-b/
[20:41] <shawn1963> dragonfly: I just sent you a "private", hope I did it right, message.
[20:43] <shawn1963> dragonfly: I saw the pop up but wasn't sure what to do with it.  I am reaaaaaallly rusty with IRC.
[20:43] <tendor> Beldar, thanks testdisk was able to help
[20:43] <dragonfly> shawn1963, does it give a message when it fails?
[20:44] <c4pt> I am using samba with an old xbox for media sharing, I setup samba but some of the users and groups didn't exist,  does samba change users and groups to samba-user:100* if those user names and groups arent there yet , I have heard that samba is a really weak protocol to use to share files from its vulernablities
[20:44] <shawn1963> dragonfly: It just tells me that the installer has failed and that a report will be generated and sent to the developers.  But I don't know what the report says.
[20:44] <c4pt> nevermind.
[20:45] <shawn1963> dragonfly: I've had it installed on the hd once before but ever since then I have been able to complete the install to either the hd or to usb.
[20:47] <shawn1963> dragonfly: you still there?
[20:48] <tendor> Beldar, thx testdisk helped
[20:49]  * LinoSP has successfully installed Debian Wheezy 7.3.0 i386 LXDE   on a 13yo laptop Toshiba 1555CDS   AMD-K6  380Mhz 160MB RAM   ^_^ =D
[20:49] <Beldar> tendor, Cool I figured it would, I just don't want to give any false hopes. ;)
[20:49] <LinoSP> Why Ubuntu doesn't support AMD K6  CPUs ?
[20:50] <LinoSP> :(
[20:50] <Beldar> LinoSP, probably info on the web if this is true.
[20:51] <Beldar> none of us are associated with canonical is all
[20:52] <Beldar> LinoSP, debian in general is a lighter install, ubuntu can light install with a net install.
[20:56] <Beldar> LinoSP, I would assume that is a non pae kernel compliant cpu, the net install would work, or maybe of lubuntu, xubuntu, tis a slow cpu is all if supported.
[21:01] <sonoio> #italia
[21:02] <sonoio> ciao
[21:03] <kreuger> Can I run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg from in a live cd?
[21:04] <sonoio> ciao a tutti
[21:04] <DJones> !it | sonoio
[21:05] <linux_dr> sonoio: lol... I now know barely enough Italian to know what that means... take care... lol
[21:10] <daedeloth> does anyone have chrome, an xbox controller and the xbox controller drivers installed in ubuntu? :p
[21:10] <daedeloth> I'm wondering if I have a freak issue, or if this is a structural thing
[21:10] <daedeloth> (wrongly mapped keys in ubuntu / linux)
[21:12] <jhutchins> daedeloth: I think there are some good guides on the web, but I don't have an xbox controller.
[21:13] <daedeloth> no everything is set up right, but there seems to be an issue with the mapping
[21:13] <daedeloth> and I'm not sure if it's me, or linux in general
[21:13] <daedeloth> I need to remap them, but I want to make sure that it's not just my computer being misconfigured or something :)
[21:14] <jojo_> I think the only way to figure this out is probably to tinker
[21:15] <jojo_> You could remap, and if that doesn't work, then start screwing with the configuration and reading through the man pages
[21:15] <daedeloth> well, like I said, there is no real problem here :) It's just that, if I add filters for linux in my scripts, all linux users will have this mapping
[21:16] <daedeloth> bah I hate this experimental stuff. :)
[21:16] <daedeloth> I'm going to start with just ignoring the issue until I get linux complaints
[21:16] <daedeloth> even though I'm actually running ubuntu myself
[21:16] <uBUXUBu> me too
[21:17] <Guest29875> i also run ubuntu
[21:17] <Guest29875> 12.04
[21:17] <uBUXUBu> it is difficult to not run ubuntu these days
[21:17] <uBUXUBu> yes 1204
[21:17] <jojo_> linux is all about experimenting, haha.
[21:17] <daedeloth> (did I triggre something here?)
[21:17] <daedeloth> no, I don't agree
[21:17] <jojo_> Ubuntu makes linux so much easier than it's ever been
[21:17] <dougl> how hard is it to make a script to say "Hi" or a private message on join indication - what should I google for?
[21:18] <uBUXUBu> its is becoming neccasary to run ubuntu these days
[21:18] <jojo_> 10 years ago, I just expected to spend a few days tinkering to get a linux distro working smoothely
[21:18] <jhutchins> dougl: Depends on your (presumably irc) client.
[21:18] <jojo_> what kind of script
[21:18] <Beldar> dougl, The channel does not like extra join or part stuff.
[21:19] <jhutchins> dougl: Not somethng you'd do on a tech channel like this.
[21:20] <jojo_> dougl: the answer to your question partially depends on which irc client you are using
[21:21] <dougl> not so I need to open a private chat with "specificnick" when he joins this channel or #kubuntu so I can instruct him how to proceed after he boots the Kubuntu 13.10 I installed on his computer... xchat
[21:23] <EminentDomain> does anyone have any experience in any HDMI sticks that can run Ubuntu
[21:23]  * dougl installed kubuntu on bosses son's computer along side the cleaned windows 7 install... now tripple booting - linux, ms recovery and windows 7
[21:23] <EminentDomain> i'm trying to buy some hdmi sticks to try and make into a front end for plex and/or xbmc
[21:23] <dougl> EminentDomain, WHAT IS A HDMI STICK
[21:23] <dougl> oops
[21:24] <MonkeyDust> dougl  i guess it depends on your irc client
[21:24]  * Beldar loves being self employed
[21:24] <dougl> sorry for yelling
[21:24] <EminentDomain> like a computer in a stick form tht plugs into a tv
[21:24] <dougl> MonkeyDust,  xchat
[21:25] <dougl> I used to do it on mirc in windows 98 so I thot it would be a cakewalk in linux... but am unsure what to google for...
[21:25] <EminentDomain> http://lightake.com/detail.do/sku.RK3188_Quad_Core_Android_4.2_UGOOS_UG802B_1080P_HDMI_Output_2G_DDR3_Mini_PC_TV_Stick_-64051?gclid=CIjHvaPixLsCFew7MgoddTEAoQ
[21:25] <EminentDomain> thats a sample of one
[21:25] <MonkeyDust> dougl  better ask in the xchat channel, how scripts are made and handled
[21:26] <dougl> MonkeyDust, thanks - will do...
[21:27] <MonkeyDust> dougl  type /join #xchat
[21:27] <dougl> EminentDomain, do you know what a raspberry pi is? xbmc runs awesome on that 40 dollar computer that runs debian etc
[21:27] <dougl> type /join #xchat
[21:27] <dougl> lol
[21:27] <kreuger> ok this is weird. My computer boots to grub then it just hangs. there's no counter and neither my kb or mouse have power.
[21:28] <MonkeyDust> kreuger  are they wireless?
[21:28] <Beldar> kreuger, hangs on the grub menu or a black screen post grub?
[21:29] <kreuger> no they're USB
[21:29] <kreuger> the grub menu
[21:29] <kreuger> Im gonna try my ps/2 kb
[21:29] <kreuger> that works. odd
[21:30] <kreuger> once im past that screen, my mouse came on and so did the USB kb
[21:30] <Beldar> kreuger, Is the dead keyboard a basic generic?
[21:30] <kreuger> its working now
[21:30] <liam___>                                                                                                         im workin on a installer script http://dpaste.com/1518824/ any ideas to make the code neater/cleaner
[21:31] <kreuger> I just cant get the computer to login now
[21:31] <Guest40113> any GUI tool to convert html pages to pdf?
[21:32] <liam___> im working on a auto install script type thing http://dpaste.com/1518824/ any ideas how to make it a little cleaner code wise
[21:33] <MonkeyDust> Guest40113  abiword
[21:34] <Guest29875> liam___,  clean code does not matter........ readable/understandable code is the only thing that matters
[21:34] <wikiwill> hi guys, i'm trying to run steam for windows, in WINE, but after it connects my account it crashes giving me this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6619729/
[21:34] <jojo_> Guest, clean code == readable/understandable code
[21:35] <Guest29875> wikiwill, you realize that steam works perfect under ubuntu 12.04 right?
[21:35] <MonkeyDust> Guest40113  Guest29875 please choose a more readable nickname
[21:35] <wikiwill> guest, im using ubuntu 13.10, is that the problem?
[21:35] <Quest_> MonkeyDust,  did that
[21:35] <Quest_> MonkeyDust,  abiword is a word pocesser
[21:36] <Quest_> processor
[21:36] <ralphthewindowsu> wikiwill, maybe ? idk but try installing the linux version of steam with the correct drivers
[21:36] <gmachine_24> Quest: or a typing program :-)
[21:36] <Quest_> i need a tool to convert from html to pdf
[21:36] <MonkeyDust> Quest_  just checked, you can "save as pdf"
[21:36] <ralphthewindowsu> MonkeyDust, openoffice?
[21:36] <kreuger> Im uploading a video to youtube to show the issue Im having. When it's done, I'll share it here
[21:36] <jojo_> wikiwill: probably not.  I would install steam based on the documentation for ubuntu here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve
[21:36] <MonkeyDust> ralphthewindowsu  no, abiword handles both html and pdf
[21:36] <Quest_> MonkeyDust,  ya but I need html to pdf. not word to pdf. I already have html files
[21:36] <wikiwill> ralphthewindowsu: steam for linux will not run non-linux games
[21:37] <knightshade> Quest_: there is wkhtmltopdf, whcih does what you want, but is not a gui tool
[21:37] <MonkeyDust> Quest_  just tried, you can open html files and save as pdf, with abiword
[21:38] <Quest_> ok
[21:38] <jojo_> wikiwill: why do you want to run non-linux games on linux?  Just use Virtualbox to create a Windows VM.
[21:38] <wikiwill> jojo: will virtualbox take full advantage of my GPU?
[21:38] <liam___> i dont think so
[21:40] <guntbert> wikiwill: no, it gets a virtual GPU
[21:40] <slashsux> this isnt the channel i want to BE IN
[21:41] <gmachine_24> so..............leave
[21:41] <SchrodingersScat> gmachine_24: he did.
[21:41] <wikiwill> Okay, well what i would like to do is play games that use steam for DRM, but play them on linux. these games do not have a linux version, and WINE seems to be the best option.
[21:41] <gmachine_24> ha. schrodingersScat... funny name
[21:42] <ralphthewindowsu> why is a poop joke funny gmachine_24 ?
[21:42] <SchrodingersScat> wikiwill: worth a shot, good luck.
[21:42] <wikiwill> Yes it is worth a shot, but the problem is it isn't working, i was hoping the IRC could provide insight?
[21:44] <SchrodingersScat> wikiwill: that's not very ubuntu related, results may vary as it is.  have you checked the winehq database for whatever you're trying to play?
[21:45] <jojo_> wikiwill: If I were in your position, I would go out and buy a second HDD or partition the hard drive I'm on and dual boot windows and linux
[21:45] <wikiwill> schrodingersscat: you're right, my mistake. the winehq database says the steam client works flawlessly
[21:45] <jojo_> Wine itself creates a sort of VM environment that can affect performance, anyway, so you still might not get what you want
[21:46] <wikiwill> jojo_: already done, but I'd like to get ubuntu working as a replacement for windows
[21:46] <SchrodingersScat> wikiwill: the client maybe, but you should check the game, but the client should also have steps you need to take to install, etc.
[21:46] <jojo_> I understand, but sometimes you just can't replace everything
[21:46] <jojo_> but I get it, I loathe Microsoft
[21:47] <SchrodingersScat> wikiwill: ask them why they don't support linux and hate freedom.
[21:48] <wikiwill> schrodingersscat: all the game's i've tried have tried to launch steam for DRM before launching themselves, and those that did not use it for DRM worked. I followed necessary steps to install(i think). I'm not sure that Valve(the company who makes steam) hates linux, maybe freedom, but they won't answer anyway
[21:49] <jojo_> steam does not hate linux
[21:49] <jojo_> I think it's the game manufacturers tying their hands behind their backs
[21:50] <MonkeyDust> wikiwill  by struggling, maybe you can become a linux-steam expert yourself
[21:50] <wikiwill> jojo_: no, in this case the issue is steam isn't launching
[21:50] <jojo_> but I know that there is talk about making Sabayon Linux the official distro for linux gaming
[21:51] <jojo_> steam not working != steam community hates linux, lol
[21:51] <gmachine_24> ralphthewindowsu: in reply to your question about schrodingersscat please see http://pastebin.com/npQ6jVSS
[21:51] <jojo_> just means theres a bug or something
[21:51] <wikiwill> jojo_: yes, thats why i responded "im not sure valve hates linux"
[21:52] <wikiwill> but ill look elsewhere, thanks
[21:55] <jojo_> aah, my bad
[21:56] <kreuger> Alright guys so here's my issue. I can't login to my computer which has  Lubuntu 12.10 (I believe). When I boot it up, the Xubuntu wallpaper comes up (I havent changed it) and nothing happens. If I hit ctrl+alt+f1 to try and get a terminal, I just get a blank screen and blinking cursor. Eventually I get part of the loading sign and that's it. Ive recorded a video on my phone and put it here http://www.youtube.com/
[21:56] <kreuger> watch?v=15qY4ugYUp4
[21:56] <FloodBot1> kreuger: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:57] <kreuger> Stupid bot. It's not a flood.
[21:57] <EminentDomain> doug1 yes i know what raspberry pi is and have been using one
[21:57] <EminentDomain> just curious about the mini pc sticks
[21:58] <jojo_> krueger, have you installed an alternative window manager for X11?
[21:58] <jojo_> such as XMonad or dwm?
[21:59] <kreuger> It has OpenBox. Originally I was using Xubuntu, then I switched to LXDE
[22:00] <kreuger> I thought originally it was a video driver issue. Im not sure now
[22:00] <YPanzer> Hi everybody. I need some little help with WeeChat
[22:01] <YPanzer> is somebody who use it for the chat ?
[22:02] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | YPanzer
[22:02] <MonkeyDust> YPanzer  450+ people in #weechat
[22:03] <jojo_> krueger: have you checked to make sure you installed all of the lxde components including the lxde login manager?
[22:03] <jojo_> you might need to make sure have fully uninstalled the old login manager, as well
[22:03] <YPanzer> SchrodingersScat: ok, I have the nick already registred with NickServ with assigned password. How to make /connect to certain server using nich/pass?
[22:03] <jojo_> if you switched to a new one
[22:04] <kreuger> Yeah, It used to work before. I think something got mixed up when I upgraded to 12.10. I haven't been able to use the computer for over a yr and havent really needed it but my laptop is running out of space so I need it now. I switched to LightDM from the lxde login manager
[22:05] <SchrodingersScat> YPanzer: http://www.weechat.org/files/doc/devel/weechat_quickstart.en.html#irc_server_options
[22:09] <kreuger> jojo_, any more ideas?
[22:12] <YPanzer> SchrodingersScat: Thaks
[22:13] <YPanzer> SchrodingersScat: thanks
[22:14] <SchrodingersScat> YPanzer: welcome.
[22:18] <devyncjohnson> Where is the best place to offer Ubuntu-developers ideas for Ubuntu?
[22:18] <devyncjohnson> I am wanting to be a "think-tank" for Ubuntu.
[22:18] <linux_dr> I'm picking through the docs on upstart... can anyone help my configure Saucy Salamander to have OpenSSHd start up *AFTER* the system is in an otherwise stable state?
[22:20] <honestemu> What do you guys use as an IM client? I'm using pidgin, but it doesn't seem to have group-chat support for Google or Facebook. Any recommendations or possible solutions?
[22:20] <devyncjohnson> I use Pidgin for Google's hangouts.
[22:21] <mikael_> #smartphone
[22:22] <honestemu> devyncjohnson:So group chat works?
[22:23] <devyncjohnson> @honestemu yes. here is documentation - https://support.google.com/a/answer/49147?hl=en
[22:25] <bjrohan> I just installed a router as an AP, it is on .135 on my main router. This new AP has a USB port on it with a drive attached. How can I figure out how to access that drive? would it be on a particular port on that machine?
[22:26] <devyncjohnson> I will be back after a while. I will leave Pidgin on so I can see what was said while I was gone.
[22:27] <kreuger> Someone please help :(
[22:28] <bekks> kreuger: you have to specify a problem first :)
[22:28] <kreuger> bekks, I have. And included a video too
[22:29] <SuperLag> I'm going crazy.
[22:29] <SuperLag> Can you change the hotkey for the Unity menu?
[22:29] <bekks> kreuger: Well, I will not watch a video describing a problem. Would you mind to repeat the problem description?
[22:29] <SuperLag> I'm using many VMs on my laptop, and I want the Super key to active the menu only in the VM... but not in the host
[22:30] <kreuger> bekks, it's not a video describing, it's showing exactly what happens because it's easier than trying to explain. basically I can't get a display manager to log in. And hitting the hotkeys for terminal doesnt work either
[22:30] <SuperLag> Dash, sorry. Dash.
[22:30] <SuperLag> Can I change what key activates Dash? like Ctrl-Super, even?
[22:33] <SuperLag> I think I figured it out. compizconfig-settings-manager
[22:35] <MonkeyDust> SuperLag  is this useful? dconf-editor, org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings
[22:35] <hellmen33> bonsoir a tous
[22:36] <YOURBESTFRIEND> !fr | hellmen33
[22:36] <hellmen33> un conseil pour un jeu installé sur playonlinux ?
[22:40] <bekks> kreuger: did you boot up in rescue mode to investigate the logs?
[22:40] <kreuger> bekks, no because until today, I wasn't even seeing the grub menu. I tried choosing an older kernel and nothing happened
[22:41] <bekks> kreuger: then boot into rescue mode and additionally check wether your disk is full.
[22:42] <kreuger> there's plenty of space left, I was able to see that when I booted a live cd. I'll try rescue mode though
[22:47] <kreuger> bekks, im at the recovery menu. what do you suggest I try?
[22:49] <bekks> kreuger: Investigate the logs to see what happened.
[22:49] <kreuger> bekks, should I drop to root terminal then?
[22:50] <kreuger> bekks, my options are "resume, clean, dpkg, fsck, grub, network, root, system-summary"
[22:50] <bekks> yes.
[22:51] <kreuger> any specific log?
[22:52] <Guest91999> mini2440
[22:52] <Guest91999> ecos experts?
[22:53] <Guest91999> #mini2440
[22:53] <bekks> kreuger: The X logs, the .xsession-errors, etc.
[22:53] <Guest91999> I m trying to use redboot on mini2440
[22:53] <Guest91999> but no luck
[22:53] <RiskkkkkkO> Hi, could you please help me to format win8 from dell xps and install ubuntu? I've tried many things without succcess,
[22:54] <such_coins> RiskkkkkkO, what did you try?
[22:54] <such_coins> I don't know much about linux so usually I'm not the guy to ask
[22:54] <such_coins> but I just did that a week ago
[22:54] <kreuger> bekks, how can I see a list of hidden files from the terminal?
[22:54] <such_coins> on my dell xps 12
[22:54] <bekks> kreuger: ls -lha
[22:55] <kreuger> xsession-errors is blank
[22:55] <LinoSP> Beldar: Lubuntu 10.04 was the last  *buntu that I could install in this laptop, newer versions are impossible to boot
[22:55] <RiskkkkkkO> such_coins i've tried to launch the ubuntu installation from the usb drive and dvd
[22:56] <Red-Fox> question, chromium crashes when i try to save something.. was working fine moments ago
[22:56] <such_coins> RiskkkkkkO, what happened when you tried? I need a bit more details to know what went wrong.
[22:56] <Red-Fox> woops nvm solved
[22:57] <RiskkkkkkO> with the usb pendrie, just get black screen with underline at the top of screen on the left side
[22:57] <devyncjohnson> Where is the best place to offer Ubuntu-developers ideas for Ubuntu?
[22:57] <RiskkkkkkO> with the dvd different error message
[22:58] <bekks> RiskkkkkkO: and which error message...?
[22:58] <such_coins> RiskkkkkkO, how did you install the iso?
[23:00] <bjarne> Does anyone know how I can roll back my AMD Catalyst drivers from 13.10 to 12.4/12.8 ?
[23:00] <ralphthewindowsu> bjarne, remove and reinstall?
[23:00] <kreuger> oops, I made a mistake opening the file. ive got it now
[23:00] <bekks> bjarne: Reinstall 12.04
[23:01] <bekks> bjarne: err *12.4/12.8 :)
[23:01] <rzralphwinxpuser> bekks, dont be silly nobody has to reinstall an os for that
[23:01] <bjarne> rzralphwinxpuser: can i find 12.4 in the repos somewhere?
[23:01] <Red-Fox> bjarne do you mean the fglrx or the xorg open source ones?
[23:01] <RiskkkkkkO> such_coins the DvD with ultra iso and the usb with the universal usb installer 1.9.5
[23:01] <bekks> rzralphwinxpuser: I'd not use > 12.04 until now due to the support duration. ;)
[23:02] <MonkeyDust> 12.04 <3
[23:02] <bjarne> Red-Fox: the fglrx
[23:02] <such_coins> RiskkkkkkO, did you turn off secure boot?
[23:02] <such_coins> RiskkkkkkO, I'm not sure if that would help, but someone recommended it to me
[23:03] <rzralphwinxpuser> bekks, i only use LTS releases
[23:03] <Red-Fox> https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[23:03] <RiskkkkkkO> such_coins I don't know how to disable the secure boot, because there isn't any option on the BIOS menu to do that
[23:03] <Red-Fox> try there
[23:03] <such_coins> RiskkkkkkO, I'm pretty sure there is... hold on
[23:03] <bekks> rzralphwinxpuser: Then you know what a typo is in terms of 12.4 and 12.04
[23:04] <bjarne> Red-Fox: thanks
[23:04] <rzralphwinxpuser> bekks, typos are bad
[23:04] <Red-Fox> np
[23:04] <kreuger> bekks, it gives me a couple of gtk-message errors then it basically tells me where more logs are. I should open up the one it lists now and see
[23:04] <such_coins> RiskkkkkkO, http://www.maketecheasier.com/disable-secure-boot-in-windows-8/
[23:04] <bekks> kreuger: What is "it"?
[23:04] <kreuger> the .xsession-errors log
[23:05] <zinux> bs
[23:05] <hunter_> #Brasil
[23:05] <zinux> morocco
[23:06] <zinux> french
[23:06] <MonkeyDust> swahili
[23:07] <bekks> Arikapu
[23:07] <kreuger> bekks, Ive opened the log file in ~/.cache/lxsession/LXDE. a lot more errors here. Not sure how to get them all into pastebin.
[23:07] <kreuger> let me see if I can upload the file to dropbox
[23:07] <bekks> !pastebin | kreuger
[23:07] <RiskkkkkkO> such_coins I don't have this option in mi win8 UEFI Firmware Settings
[23:07] <kreuger> It's a different computer..4
[23:07] <kreuger> -4
[23:08] <such_coins> RiskkkkkkO, it was worth a shot. Sorry I can't help you
[23:08] <sian> ould anyone take a look at this: i have 3 mkv files which have been linked together. i'm running this command: ls | grep -i "links" | xargs -n 1 mkvinfo | grep -i "segment uid"; which grabs the names of the files (they contain "links" in their names) and runs mkvinfo on each one of them
[23:12] <sian> sorry, the gnome irc application was crashing so I don't know if my last message was delivere. Could anyone take a look at this: i have 3 mkv files which have been linked together. i'm running this command: ls | grep -i "links" | xargs -n 1 mkvinfo | grep -i "segment uid"; which grabs the names of the files (they contain "links" in their names) and runs mkvinfo on each one of them
[23:13] <sian> that command gives me the desired output, the problem is that it bundles the output of every file(let's say that it merges them)so I don't know where 1 starts and where the other finishes, anyway to have some separation between them?
[23:19] <doomlord_> does ubuntu work ok on the microsoft surface pro / surface pro 2
[23:20] <MonkeyDust> doomlord_  guess that company knows only the following three OS's: windows, windows and windows
[23:22] <MonkeyDust> doomlord_  i'm wrong: http://www.geek.com/microsoft/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-the-surface-pro-1539262/
[23:22] <Jam311> Hello
[23:23] <Jam311> Could somebody please help me with an internet problem I'm experiencing?
[23:24] <DrManhattan> Jam311, I can try. What's up?
[23:24] <sian> has no one worked with mkvinfo??
[23:24] <kreuger> bekks, so I can't even upload the file to dropbox due to permissions (I booted into a livecd to try and copy it to pastebin but there's no clipboard manager so it wont paste)
[23:25] <Jam311> I installed Ubuntu on my Dell Inspiron mini and when i try to connect to the internet it dosent detect anything.
[23:25] <DrManhattan> Jam311, are you trying to connect via wired or wireless?
[23:25] <Jam311> Wireless
[23:26] <jojo_> Jam311: run lspci - what kind of wireless card does that say you have?
[23:26] <DrManhattan> Jam311, is the wireless connection set up? IE, you have the proper module inserted, the proper wireless network set up, etc?
[23:27] <Jam311> My wireless connection is setup properly because the laptop I'm using to talk here is working fine.
[23:27] <DrManhattan> oh, you're actually ON the laptop. Ok  - what site are you trying to reach?
[23:28] <hyprvx> If I have a 64-bit system, but it doesn't have UEFI firmware, can I safely install the x86 version without bad repurcussions?
[23:28] <DrManhattan> hyprvx, you SHOULD be able to, yes
[23:28] <Jam311> What do you mean what site am I trying to reach?
[23:28] <hyprvx> Any exceptions?
[23:29] <hyprvx> It's a regular Intel Pentium
[23:29] <bekks> hyprvx: Install 64bit. You dont need UEFI for doing so.
[23:29] <nerium> I'm trying to install postgresql 9.3 in my ubuntu server, but I'm getting this error https://gist.github.com/oleander/f6992d9bcf0fc4a83edb can anyone see why?
[23:29] <hyprvx> I am using Wubi
[23:29] <bekks> hyprvx: ouch.
[23:30] <jojo_> Jam311, what is the problem if you are connected to the internet?
[23:30] <jojo_> you can't be talking to us if Ubuntu hasn't detected your wireless card, detected a wireless network, and connected to that network
[23:30] <jojo_> what isn't working?
[23:30] <Jam311> I have two laptops the one that I am talking to you on is working fine but the one with ubuntu can't connect.
[23:30] <kreuger> bekks, you still there?
[23:30] <hyprvx> I'm introducing my girlfriend to Ubuntu, and I don't want to throw her in with GRUB and all. just use Wubi and have a light, simple, small-footprint, easy-to-switch through environment
[23:31] <jojo_> okay, do you know if ubuntu has detected the card?
[23:31] <hans__> hi
[23:31] <Jam311> How do I check if it has?
[23:31] <hans__> some one online here
[23:31] <jojo_> run lspci from the terminal
[23:31] <jojo_> see if your wireless card turns up in the output results
[23:32] <hans__> cab some one help me
[23:32] <hans__> 468: exec: /tmp/install.dir.9825/Linux/resource/jre/bin/java: not found
[23:32] <hans__> what must i do
[23:32] <Jam311> .
[23:33] <jojo_> Jam311: do you know what brand and make your wireless card is
[23:33] <Jam311> Ok I did that now what?
[23:33] <kreuger> Im AFk for a bit. Will return
[23:33] <DrManhattan> Jam311, does the ubuntu laptop have functioning wireless?
[23:33] <hans__> see you
[23:33] <xangua> hans__: what were you trying to?
[23:33] <hans__> install a bin file
[23:33] <jhutchins> hans__: From where?
[23:33] <hans__> for my iomega NAS
[23:33] <jojo_> Jam311: copy the results of lspci and put them in pastebin
[23:34] <jojo_> then paste the pastebin link here
[23:34] <jhutchins> hans__: Sounds like the file doesn't have all of the parts it needs.
[23:34] <jojo_> also, run iwconfig - same thing, paste the results to pastebin and provide the link here
[23:34] <Jam311> I think its either Dell or Intel, And the laptop should have functioning wireless because it worked when I had windows installed.
[23:34] <hans__> i have download it from there site
[23:34] <jhutchins> hans__: You'll probably need to contact Iomega support.
[23:34] <jojo_> Jam311 - just because it worked with Windows doesn't mean there is a Linux driver for it
[23:34] <hans__> i will it tomorow
[23:35] <hans__> thx
[23:35] <jojo_> There is a linux driver for most wireless cards out there, but some cards are better supported than others
[23:35] <Jam311> How can I paste it in pastebin if the laptop dosent have internet?
[23:35] <DrManhattan> Jam311, I meant is it functioning in Ubuntu - do you have it set up?
[23:36] <jojo_> DrManhattan, his Ubuntu box does not have internet
[23:36] <Jam311> The wireless is not functioning in ubuntu?
[23:36] <Jam311> *ubuntu.
[23:36] <jojo_> he's talkig to us on a different laptop
[23:36] <Jam311> ya
[23:36] <DrManhattan> jojo_, I understood he's talking to us on a different laptop, but i was just trying to clarify the situation with the other laptop
[23:37] <jojo_> right - wireless is not working for him on the other laptop
[23:37] <DrManhattan> Ok
[23:37] <jojo_> which is why he can't paste to pastebin for us
[23:37] <DrManhattan> does he have the gui fired up?
[23:38] <jojo_> Jam311, first we need to determine what the exact make and model of your wireless card is
[23:38] <jojo_> the lspci results should have that in there, you will just have to browse through there until you see something that say something like 802.11a/b/g or something similar in the line
[23:38] <Jam311> Ok would that be the network controller?
[23:38] <jojo_> something to indicate it's a wireless card
[23:38] <jojo_> yes
[23:39] <jojo_> wireless would hook into the network controller
[23:39] <jojo_> but it would not say ethernet
[23:39] <jojo_> ethernet would be your landline connection
[23:39] <Jam311> Ok its Broadcom Corporation BCM4312
[23:39] <jojo_> oh damn
[23:40] <jojo_> that's the same card I have
[23:40] <jojo_> hahaha
[23:40] <Jam311> lol
[23:40] <jojo_> I haven't gotten my wireless working yet
[23:40] <jojo_> buut
[23:40] <jojo_> I can get you closer
[23:40] <jojo_> Jam311 http://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/how-to-install-broadcom-wireless-drivers-bcm43xx
[23:40] <Jam311> What do you mean?
[23:40] <jojo_> look at that link
[23:41] <jojo_> from what I understand, the steps in that discussion have gotten other people with similar Broadcom 43XX cards up and running on ubuntu
[23:42] <Jam311> ok I'll try that
[23:42] <jojo_> you will need to uninstall the broadcom-sta driver and the bcmwl-kernel-source before installing the 43xx drivers
[23:42] <Jam311> Ok
[23:43] <jojo_> let me know if you get that working, haha
[23:43] <jojo_> I have my mac mini that is running PeppermintOS  (based on Lubuntu) hooked into an ethernet connection right now because I'm tired of setting up the OS
[23:44] <jojo_> that link is my project for tomorrow after work
[23:44] <Jam311> it told me Unable to late package bcmwl-kernel-source
[23:44] <jojo_> do you have synaptic installed?
[23:45] <Jam311> What's that?
[23:45] <jojo_> system tools -> synaptic package maneger
[23:45] <jojo_> open that up (you will have to give it your password)
[23:45] <jojo_> and then search for 'bcm'
[23:46] <jojo_> it should produce a list that contains the broadcom drivers available for installation and also some extraneous results we don't care about
[23:46] <jojo_> if any of them are installed, it will indicate so
[23:47] <jojo_> the ones you are interested in are bcmwl-kernel-source and the other one is something along the lines of broadcom-sta or something
[23:47] <jojo_> if they aren't checked as installed, then you don't have them
[23:47] <Jam311> I can't find skynaptics package manager, if it didn't come with ubuntu I probably don't have it.
[23:48] <jojo_> which is fine, that means you can just follow the instructions on the forum to get the 43xx drivers installed
[23:48] <Jam311> Ok
[23:48] <jojo_> open up a terminal and type 'synaptic &' without the quotes
[23:48] <jojo_> rrr
[23:49] <jojo_> you will need 'sudo synaptic &'
[23:50] <Jam311> It says Package 'synaptic' has no s=installation candidate
[23:50] <jojo_> hmm, okay, I guess it wasn't installed
[23:50] <jojo_> I thought that was shipped with Ubuntu
[23:51] <zykotick9> !gksudo | jojo_ don't use sudo with GUI apps, it's important
[23:51] <jojo_> noted
[23:52] <jojo_> Jam311, you could try to use dpkg or apt to detect if they are installed
[23:53] <jojo_> google can probably help with that, but I don't know those commands off the top of my head
[23:53] <Jam311> ok
[23:54] <jojo_> I invite a more experienced Ubuntu user to step in and help Jam311 - I have to focus on learning javascript for the next couple of hours
[23:55] <harushimo> question, I'm trying to setup my kvm...what is the best software for it
[23:55] <zykotick9> "dpkg -l | grep synaptic" <- i don't think it's installed in ubuntu by default anymore.  jojo_ Jam311
[23:56] <zykotick9> harushimo: kvm the virtualization software?  i use straight kvm from command line, but most "normal" people use virt-manager.
[23:57] <harushimo> how to do straight kvm from the command line
[23:57] <harushimo> Is it software ubuntu-vm-builder?
[23:57] <harushimo> or qemu
[23:57] <zykotick9> harushimo: are you SURE that your cpu supports virtualization?
[23:57] <harushimo> oh yeah
[23:57] <zykotick9> ok, just checkin'
[23:58] <harushimo> I just built this new computer 2 mons ago
[23:58] <Payton> Hello, during the ubuntu installation it does not give me the option to install alongside windows, any help?
[23:58] <Payton> Windows 8*
[23:59] <harushimo> zykotick9: how do I setup a kvm through the command line
[23:59] <zykotick9> harushimo: i've never used ubuntu-vm-builder, so wouldn't know.  if you want a frontend, i'd suggest virt-manager gui - alternatively start reading about kvm usage.