[13:49] <rick_h__> join #ubuntu-us-mi
[14:30] <rick_h__> so much duct tpe holding this CI stuff together wow
[14:31] <gary_poster> was true for old one too
[14:31] <gary_poster> I think more
[14:32] <gary_poster> or at least the duct tape had weaker adhesive :-P
[14:32] <rick_h__> yea, it's the kind of thing that once you get all the moving parts in your head and understand it it makes some sense
[14:32] <rick_h__> but man it takes so long to understand all the parts talkig to each other
[14:32] <gary_poster> yeah
[14:32] <rick_h__> and nudge them all in the right ways
[14:51] <bac> hey gary_poster have you heard anything about being required to fill out a new NC-4 witholding form?
[14:51] <gary_poster> bac, no, nothing
[14:52] <bac> gary_poster: i've read some stuff that says it is required due to the way they have changed income taxes in NC.
[14:52] <gary_poster> right reading http://www.dornc.com/press/2013/nc4requirement.html
[14:52] <bac> i've also heard if you don't fill it out they put you down for 0 exemptions, which is what almost everyone gets anyway
[14:52] <gary_poster> bac "effective for taxable years beginning on or after January 1, 2014"
[14:56] <bac> gary_poster: eh, i guess i'll ask after the new year if i remember
[14:56] <gary_poster> bac I will contact Blythe about this and cc you.
[14:56] <bac> oh, even better
[14:56] <gary_poster> bac it looks like if they have it set up before our first 2014 paycheck it will be ok.  who knows if I am right though
[14:56] <bac> or what?  they send art pope to london with a tire iron?
[14:58] <gary_poster> bac, we don't get any exemptions.  yeah, which is what it seems we get anyway
[14:59] <bac> so it seems to be a wash.  required to do it but it you don't the default is right.
[15:01] <gary_poster> yeah 
[15:08] <rick_h__> jujugui heads up, due to ice and crap (I'm guessing) my net's dropped a couple of times this morning. 
[15:09] <rick_h__> so if I go afk, I'll wait to get back or hit up mifi or something
[15:12] <bac> rick_h__: i've got the drop out too but do to periodic, heavy rains.
[15:13] <rick_h__> bac: we had the ice of doom day yesterday. Pretty, but dangerous times out and about. Power stayed up for us, but network's been much more flaky than usual :/
[15:15] <bac> rick_h__: i used to like the heavy snow and ice storms we got in NC once every 3-4 years.  i would volunteer to do doctor transport for the hospital, which was my license to get out and play while pretending a higher calling.
[15:15] <rick_h__> hah
[15:15] <bac> my '90 ranger rover and i were unstoppable.
[15:16] <rick_h__> yea, I got to test out the new blizzaks on the touareg. Drove the wife to work/back and had our first of the 4 christmases
[15:16] <rick_h__> so saw some crazy sights for sure
[15:16] <rick_h__> telephone pols hanging via the wiring without any attachment to the ground are a bit spooky :)
[15:16] <rick_h__> poles
[15:38] <hatch> morning all
[15:38] <rick_h__> party party
[15:40] <gary_poster> hey :-)
[15:43] <hatch> so I havent had enough time to write the tests for my branch so I was wondering if anyone wanted to do those for me?
[15:43] <hatch> I can try and find the time over the next couple days but I'm pretty busy
[15:44] <gary_poster> heh, sure hatch send it over, I'll try to do it or see if Makyo can do it.
[15:44] <rick_h__> ouch, test handoff? :P
[15:44] <hatch> awesome thanks https://github.com/hatched/juju-gui/tree/relation-unit-errors
[15:45] <hatch> it's been rebased and is working
[15:45] <gary_poster> cool
[15:45] <gary_poster> rick_h__, think of it as prototype handoff :-)
[15:45] <hatch> it's actually pretty cool
[15:45] <rick_h__> gary_poster: ah, ok. I guess that sounds better. 
[15:45] <hatch> lol
[15:45] <gary_poster> :-)
[15:46] <hatch> if noone else can get to it just let me know and I'll find the time 
[15:46] <gary_poster> hatch, no, go have a vacation.  shoo. :-)
[15:46] <hatch> haha - I watched/read some stuff on React while being dragged around shopping - it's actually pretty cool :P
[15:47] <gary_poster> heh cool
[15:47] <rick_h__> ruh roh
[15:47] <hatch> haha
[15:47] <gary_poster> :-)
[15:48]  * rick_h__ resistst the url to create an ENV var for a timeout that's 5hrs long called IEDAMMIT and force all timeouts in the system to pull from it. 
[15:48] <hatch> For the tests, I figure the best way is to copy the createinspector code form the inspector-overview tests 
[15:49] <gary_poster> jujugui call in 10
[15:50] <gary_poster> i.e., rick_h__ and Makyo :-)
[15:50] <Makyo> \o/
[15:50] <rick_h__> woot
[15:50] <gary_poster> heh
[15:50]  * gary_poster likes IEDAMMIT
[15:50] <bac> huh
[15:50] <gary_poster> bac you are not working, right?
[15:50] <bac> i am
[15:50] <rick_h__> bac: is here today and tomorrow
[15:51] <bac> i am what i am
[15:51] <gary_poster> oh! /me sucks
[15:51] <rick_h__> if I recall
[15:51] <gary_poster> then bac too :-)
[15:51] <rick_h__> gary_poster: and don't forget we'll also need IEDAMMITms :)
[15:51] <bac> gah
[15:51] <bac> well, ok
[15:51] <rick_h__> for the milliseconds
[15:51] <gary_poster> heh
[15:58] <gary_poster> jujugui call in 1
[16:57] <rick_h__> OMG it worked! follow up card...make the output usuable because it it fails talk about needle in a haystack. http://ci.jujugui.org:8080/job/juju-gui/167/consoleText
[16:58] <gary_poster> awesome rick_h__ ! :-)
[16:58] <rick_h__> 20min duration, right at 2x 
[16:58] <gary_poster> or 20x, depending on what integration stage you compare it to ;-)
[16:59] <rick_h__> hah, yea...remember the gold ole 2min days?
[17:06] <rick_h__> jujugui review please of the updates to get the unit tests in a browser working. Reviewer comments added. https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/40
[17:07]  * gary_poster taking lunch now.  will take it if noone else has
[17:07] <rick_h__> note that it's actually the two cards, getting it working and then the port is configurable as well
[17:07] <gary_poster> when I return
[17:07] <rick_h__> thanks gary_poster have a good lunch
[17:07]  * rick_h__ will grab grub as well. 
[18:11] <rick_h__> Makyo: failure is my fault, updating now
[18:11] <rick_h__> I'll retrigger
[18:12] <Makyo> rick_h__, d'oh, didn't notice.  Thanks.
[18:12] <rick_h__> Makyo: just noticed via email. Sorry, prepping for my branch that changes the port it runs saucelabs CI on
[18:12] <rick_h__> but obviously not landed yet 
[18:15] <Makyo> Oh, I was still sitting on the thread in gmail, didn't see the '4 new messages' notification.
[18:28] <gary_poster> rick_h__, do you need QA or is this a "if it passes in CI then that was the QA!" branch?
[18:28] <rick_h__> gary_poster: tests pass, if you want to verify the instruction commands work for you that's bonus qa
[18:28] <rick_h__> but I'll update that some more based on your comments 
[18:28] <rick_h__> gary_poster: so yea, tests pass, jenkins shows it working so that's QA
[18:29] <gary_poster> rick_h__, I'll take that. ;-)
[18:29] <gary_poster> rick_h__, :+1: with comments. Thank you
[18:42] <hatch> good react vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxVg_s8xAms
[18:48] <Makyo> Running into a few problems poking at getting vagrant up for mac dev.  First of all, do we still need ppa:gophers/go?  Not using lbox anymore.  Secondly, where does python-selenium live?  I get a dependency error.
[18:48] <rick_h__> Makyo: it's installed into a virtualenv and the Make commands use that
[18:48] <rick_h__> Makyo: so the system dep should no longer be required
[18:49] <rick_h__> Makyo: I think hatch had some of that in his docs update, but we kept going over the debate on the npm stuff
[18:49] <Makyo> rick_h__, python-selenium?
[18:49] <rick_h__> Makyo: yes
[18:49] <rick_h__> Makyo: and hatch's branch also removed the go dep
[18:49] <Makyo> Aha!  Okay.
[18:49] <rick_h__> though at some point we'll have Go env functional tests and it might come back
[18:49] <Makyo> Will remove those from the provision script, then.
[18:50] <hatch> Makyo yeah see my docs PR
[18:50] <Makyo> hatch, cool, thanks.
[18:50] <Makyo> That's what I get for just blithely running commands :D
[18:50] <hatch> haha it happens
[18:50] <hatch> I never thought of setting up vagrant though
[18:50] <hatch> that's pretty smart
[18:50] <hatch> :)
[18:51] <Makyo> I figured that'd be a good way to get around my VM issues, and also share the results.
[18:51] <Makyo> Just add a Vagrantfile and a provision script.
[18:51] <hatch> yeah I'd be interested in that for sure
[18:52] <hatch> I love this MBP though, running Ubuntu, OSX, and Win 8 all at once haha
[18:52] <Makyo> Hah, yeesh
[18:52] <hatch> unfortunately that's probably going to mean that I will have to QA everyones windows 8 stuff :P
[18:53] <Makyo> Yep! Thanks in advance :D
[18:53] <hatch> lol
[18:54] <hatch> I haven't figured out how to get windows to capture the proper keybindings but I did find an application that can remap the osx keys
[18:55] <hatch> I have to say though.....apt basically blows every other pkg manager out of the water
[18:55] <Makyo> Yeeep.
[19:42] <rick_h__> jujugui landed the test runs. There's still an issue that prevents both a test of a pull request and a landing job from running at the same time. It'll be my first card after the holiday. Everyone have a good time. I'm going to run. 
[19:42] <Makyo> Have a good one :)
[19:43] <gary_poster> bye rick_h__ !  happy holiday, new year, etc!
[20:23] <Makyo> jujugui small PR for vagrant; not urgent, can wait.
[20:23] <Makyo> Uh...
[20:23] <Makyo> https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/41
[20:24] <gary_poster> cool
[20:24] <hatch> cool thanks for figuring that out
[20:25] <bac> Makyo: i'll look in a bit
[20:25] <Makyo> Figured I should probably be able to use my laptop in London.  On to quickstart!
[20:25] <hatch> lol
[20:29] <bac> Makyo: i'm not sure what i've done wrong, but i'm logged into github but i cannot add comments to your PR diff
[20:30] <Makyo> bac, wonder if we need to wait for the okay to merge?
[20:30] <Makyo> No, I can.  Hmm..
[20:43] <bac> Makyo: i lost my connection. please reply again, if you had.
[20:43] <Makyo> bac, I got a comment in there, was wondering if it was waiting for the okay from CI.
[20:46] <gary_poster> bac, Makyo fwiw tests just passed. Are you getting these IRC messages bac?
[20:46] <gary_poster> heh
[20:47] <gary_poster> thinking no
[21:26] <gary_poster> Makyo, I'm wondering if bac fell off the end of the world, and if I should do the review
[21:26] <gary_poster> wdyt?
[21:26] <gary_poster> it seemed like he had made progress
[21:28] <Makyo> gary_poster, up to you, I guess.  It's mostly just a QA plus an "are the docs okay" check.
[21:29] <gary_poster> yeah, Makyo.  I am doing stuff, and he is around tomorrow. <shrug> If you don't request it, I'm not doing it :-)
[21:29] <Makyo> No worries, then!
[21:29] <gary_poster> cool
[21:30] <Makyo> Like I said, it's light, and won't conflict with anything, so I'm not worried about it
[21:30] <gary_poster> cool
[22:01] <gary_poster> night all.  have a great holiday!  Makyo, I'm afraid I leave you with hatch's https://github.com/hatched/juju-gui/tree/relation-unit-errors
[22:02] <Makyo> >:/
[22:02] <Makyo> Okay :)