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[00:21] <soee> hi
[00:23] <uBUXUBu> hello soee
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[01:55] <mdpatrick> I'm running kubuntu with ubuntu 13.04... i hate my desktop. I want something that feels more like OS X or some of the pre-metro versions of windows. What I've got is just totally unintuitive... I spent 15 minutes trying to find my wifi. What is a common desktop choice that isnt too fringe?
[01:55] <mdpatrick> Or how can I customize this to feel more normal?
[02:08] <SudoName> hey all ... anyone feel like giving me a hand?  Got a question about something
[02:13] <SudoName> my home dir seems to have reset back to its initial install state ... except for the fact that the directories I created still exist ... all the files that were there (even in those directories) seem to be just gone ... I doubt the files are completely gone but not sure what happened and of course how to get everything back
[02:46] <skreech__> SudoName: You can adjust to how you like
[02:47] <skreech__> mdpatrick: Wait You I mean :)
[02:47] <mdpatrick> skreech__: You lost me :)
[02:48] <skreech__> mdpatrick: Normal is a strange thing for computers :)
[02:48] <skreech__> mdpatrick: What's bugging you?
[02:48] <mdpatrick> skreech__: I know -- I'm trying to talk about something that's qualitative in nature but I'm misrepresenting it as something that's more tangible
[02:49] <skreech__> mdpatrick: do you know about alt+F2 ?
[02:49] <mdpatrick> skreech__: When I look at KDE plasma's website, for example, I see a speaker in the corner of the screen for controlling volume/mixing console (like Windows)... I see a digital clock (like Windows)
[02:49] <mdpatrick> It's obvious that's what they're representing as sort of out of the box
[02:49] <mdpatrick> Yet kubuntu isn't like that.
[02:50] <mdpatrick> I might be able to click the cashew, add the digital clock to the panel, etc... but I'd rather just start with something that's already closer to the mark
[02:51] <skreech__> mdpatrick: You don't have a Sys tray?
[02:52] <skreech__> mdpatrick: that's kinda odd
[02:53] <mdpatrick> I think I do. I have a panel with the KDE button in the bottom left... but when I look to the right I see only a panel. I want some system icons.
[02:53] <mdpatrick> Like here's one that really burned me up: not being able to find an icon for WiFi, despite the fact that my wifi works & driver is installed
[02:54] <mdpatrick> On OSX, that's in the top right hand corner -- in Windows pre-metro, bottom left hand... kubuntu... ??
[02:54] <skreech__> mdpatrick: Again should be in the systray. You don't have a clock in the bottom?
[02:55] <mdpatrick> Nope
[02:55] <skreech__> >_>
[02:55] <mdpatrick> I'm running 13.04 ATM, not sure if that's relevant -- seems like its relatively recent
[02:56] <skreech__> Ok so lets go over the basic. you have a bar at the bottom with a K and the list of the applications running?
[02:56] <skreech__> What's to the left of that?
[03:34] <mdpatrick> skreech__: Sorry got distracted :) You deserve better than that for trying to help! I do have that bar, and theres nothing to the left of the KDE application launcher button
[03:35] <mdpatrick> the "start" button is the furthermost left. There's also a panel at the top of the screen with the cashew that's otherwise blank
[03:38]  * skreech__ blinks
[03:38] <skreech__> At teh top eh?
[03:38] <skreech__> mdpatrick: So let me see if I can do a quick reset of your desktop
[03:38] <skreech__> Mind spending 15 minutes for that?
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[03:49] <skreech__> Open a konsole and type this in there.
[03:51] <skreech__> mkdir -p ~/backup/config ; kquitapp plasma-desktop && sleep 6 && mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-* ~/backup/config && plasma-desktop&
[03:51] <skreech__> That should reset your desktop to default
[04:03] <mdpatrick> skreech__: Great -- currently updating kubuntu, and will run that as soon as it's done. Thank you!!!
[05:28] <scorch__> So . . . Is there any help with Dolphin? I can find the files in a manual search but Dolphin fails to find them regardless of how I search and "options" are all greyed out. . .
[05:32] <scorch__> Is this a Kubuntu support room and would this include the Dolphin file manager?
[05:32] <valorie> scorch__: yes
[05:32] <valorie> by "manual search", what do you mean?
[05:33] <valorie> by the way, I've noticed traffic on all the irc channels on all the servers I'm on, is very light
[05:34] <valorie> even people who don't celebrate xmas are not on for one reason or another
[05:34] <scorch__> IE I can go to root/usr/share/sounds/KDE-Im-Cant-Connect.ogg but if I try to find ANY .ogg or any of the specific file names, dolphin fails to find them.
[05:35] <valorie> I see
[05:35] <valorie> is this a new install?
[05:35] <scorch__> Fairly new. All updates as well.
[05:36] <valorie> I ask because it sounds like dolphin's indexer didn't get a chance to index your files yet
[05:37] <valorie> but if you've had it up and running more than a few hours, presumably nepomuk has had a chance to do its thing
[05:37] <scorch__> deffinately more than a few hours and all desktop indexing is on.
[05:38] <valorie> I wish I was better equipped to help, but I'm just a fellow user
[05:38] <scorch__> But dolphin options are all greyed out as well.
[05:38] <valorie> that's def. not right
[05:40] <valorie> scorch__: there is a #dolphin chan, but only 2 people in it
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[05:40] <valorie> perhaps someone in #kde is more expert than me
[05:40]  * valorie goes afk for a few mins
[05:40] <scorch__> I saw that room. And it's password protected.
[05:40] <valorie> no
[05:40] <valorie> #kde is an open channel
[05:41] <valorie> just like this one is
[05:41] <sharpertongue>  
[05:41] <scorch__> Tried joining #dolphin and it wanted a password.
[05:41]  * scorch__ wanders off to try #kde.
[05:42] <valorie> ah ok, maybe #dolphin, dunno
[06:03] <hopelessss> greetings.
[06:03] <hopelessss> im having a really anoying problem.
[06:04] <hopelessss> this is my first attempt to use kubuntu
[06:04] <hopelessss> and kubuntu stop loading just after i entered my logins info
[06:05] <hopelessss> no need to mention that im not linux expert.
[06:05] <hopelessss> but I'm having another computer to perform test live. Any help is greatly appreciated :)
[06:14] <valorie> hopelessss: did it run for you ok in the live session?
[06:18] <hopelessss> valorie: affirmative
[06:21] <valorie> hopelessss: how much work would it be to just re-install?
[06:21] <valorie> it sounds like something wasn't completely built
[06:21] <hopelessss> well i'd like to understand
[06:21] <valorie> I understand
[06:21] <hopelessss> also it worked very well the first time
[06:21] <hopelessss> just before a reboot
[06:22] <valorie> ah
[06:22] <valorie> it seems that all the experts are sleeping or busy
[06:22]  * valorie isn't much help, I'm afraid
[06:23] <valorie> my installs and upgrades have pretty much been without incident
[06:23] <valorie> not much of a learning experience, I guess
[06:27] <hopelessss> valorie: well your presence is enough. Im felling very lonely with my corrupted computer, here
[06:28] <hopelessss> in fact startx wont start
[06:28] <valorie> yes, I've had problems before, and it's easy to panic
[06:28] <valorie> as long as you have another on which to do research, you'll get through this
[06:28] <valorie> irc is so great for that
[06:29] <valorie> too bad no experts are at their keyboards right now though
[08:07] <safridzal> hi, i'm using saucy and I found that i have to install kmail or else I cannot have akregator installed.. is there a way to just make akregator installed and kmail not? I;ve already using thunderbird, and I think kmail isnt for me..
[08:08] <safridzal> i;ve tried to mark akregator and kmail as manually installed, but apt still ask to remove akregator if I want to remove kmail
[08:09] <safridzal> muon says that kmail isnt dependency of akregator
[08:11] <valorie> can't you just not use Kmail?
[08:11] <valorie> as I recall, Kontact is the whole suite
[08:11] <valorie> while kmail can be used alone
[08:11] <valorie> !info akregator
[08:11] <ubottu> akregator (source: kdepim): RSS/Atom feed aggregator. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.11.3-0ubuntu0.1 (saucy), package size 567 kB, installed size 2114 kB
[08:12] <safridzal> valorie: i think there;s no need of kmail if a user just want to install feed reader..
[08:12] <valorie> I get what you are saying
[08:13] <valorie> but I think the suite was all designed to work together
[08:13] <valorie> you can use one part and not the rest, but I think you get the whole thing anyway
[08:13] <safridzal> all i can find is this : http://www.linuxine.com/story/why-does-purging-kmail-remove-akregator-and-korganizer
[08:14] <safridzal> it says that the problem is somewhere in the packaging.. but i cannot open the kde bug
[08:16] <valorie> I can, and the kdepim devel reports that you can use akregator by itself
[08:16] <valorie> kde bug 326859
[08:16] <ubottu> KDE bug 326859 in general "Allow users to remove kmail without removing akregator and korganizer" [Wishlist,Resolved: downstream] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=326859
[08:16] <valorie> you can't open that?
[08:18] <valorie> safridzal: I just removed kmail from my system
[08:18] <safridzal> wait.,seems like my network
[08:18] <valorie> akregator is still installed
[08:18] <valorie> I just used muon to do that while we were talking
[08:19] <valorie> running 13.10, with KDE 4.12.0
[08:21] <safridzal> http://pastebin.kde.org/p9fa1ed4a
[08:23] <safridzal> valorie: i think its because i still use 4.11
[08:23] <valorie> do you have backports installed, safridzal?
[08:23] <valorie> could be
[08:23] <valorie> because i think the fix is recent
[08:24] <valorie> well, 2013-10-30
[08:24] <safridzal> valorie: dist-upgrade cannot upgrade to 4.12
[08:24] <safridzal> where do you get that?
[08:24] <valorie> if you allow backports, yes you can
[08:25] <valorie> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.12
[08:25] <valorie> I did that sometime this last week
[08:25] <valorie> all is working well for me
[08:26] <safridzal> owh, i get that,, kde-backport ppa
[08:26] <safridzal> at first i think its saucy-backport
[08:27] <safridzal> great, i'll add that ppa.. thanks valorie
[08:27] <valorie> super!
[08:27] <valorie> good luck
[08:27] <safridzal> :D
[10:19] <uBUXUBu> just had something weird happen, when i did the join command to come here nothing happened for aboiut 10 seconds then i came here
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[11:05] <claycorn> hello?
[11:05] <claycorn> anybody having issues with google earth?
[11:24] <uBUXUBu> doesnt work
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[12:31] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:34] <Avihay> hi
[13:04] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[13:05] <monfis> i dont understend why alpha kubuntu 14.04 dont chash weni use it 3 day's
[13:07] <lordievader> monfis: Ain't it great :)
[13:09] <monfis> its not great. i use live end i not motiwe to restart
[13:10] <lordievader> Not crashing is usually seen as a good thing...
[13:11] <monfis> eh. i borned like using windows. ;(
[13:13] <monfis> its not chars bat altothough using my pc
[13:14] <monfis> on windows som popel using my pc my, my famyli end sam internaut's
[13:14] <monfis> :D
[13:15] <monfis> sory of my langlage i lern english.
[13:26] <BluesKaj> !pl | monfis
[13:26] <ubottu> monfis: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.
[13:28] <monfis> ubottu i used english
[13:28] <ubottu> monfis: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
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[16:23] <cortexA9> hello
[16:23] <cortexA9> i need to update quantal to saucy is it possible ?
[16:24] <cortexA9> An upgrade from 'quantal' to 'saucy' is not supported with this tool.
[16:24] <cortexA9> why not ?
[16:30] <BluesKaj_> have to upgrade to raring then to saucy
[16:30] <BluesKaj_> cortexA9,^
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[16:31] <cortexA9> BluesKaj_:  oh ok
[16:31] <cortexA9> BluesKaj_: how ?
[16:40] <cortexA9> ok found a way :)
[16:58] <sony> lk;
[17:00] <binali> hi people)
[17:00] <sony> hi
[17:00] <binali> How Are You,
[17:01] <binali> ?
[17:02] <sony> I'm good
[17:02] <sony> You?
[17:02] <binali> Thanks, i'm okay)
[17:03] <sony> Where are you from?
[17:04] <binali> I'm from Kazakhstan. And you?
[17:04] <sony> moscow
[17:04] <binali> Это круто)
[17:05] <sony> Возможно
[17:05] <binali> Окей.
[17:05] <binali> Давно тут?
[17:05] <sony> слушай, а что это за чат понять не могу
[17:05] <sony> 2 минуты
[17:06] <binali> Это платворма где все пользователи могут советоваться, делиться опытом, или просто общаться)
[17:06] <binali> платформа*
[17:06] <sony> понял
[17:06] <sony> а добавлять и искать как?
[17:06] <binali> Давно изпользуешь kubuntu,
[17:06] <binali> ?
[17:06] <sony> год
[17:06] <sony> до этого ubuntu 3 ujlf
[17:06] <binali> тут такого нет)) разве что если канал другой добавить)
[17:07] <sony> все ясно)))
[17:07] <binali> Я неделю юзал просто убунту, вот решил перелезть на кубунту, потому что интерфес Unity мне не очень)
[17:07] <binali> Да и винда достала просто!!
[17:08] <sony> я тоже устал с ним драться
[17:08] <sony> попробовал kubuntu
[17:08] <sony> все супер ненарадуюсь
[17:08] <binali> Последний раз была Win 8.1
[17:08] <binali> Это просто вирус!!
[17:08] <binali> А не ОС
[17:08] <FloodBotK1> binali: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:08] <sony> и я ставил на 2 часа хватило)))
[17:09] <BluesKaj_> !ru
[17:09] <ubottu> Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.
[17:09] <binali> <FloodBotK1> binali: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.)))
[17:10] <binali> у меня около месяца стояло.. я потом подумал зачем мне это надо... программировать на Php можно и под Линуксом, даже эффективнее)
[17:10] <binali>  /join #ubuntu-ru
[17:10] <binali> =)
[17:11] <BluesKaj_> binali, english please
[17:11] <sony> чего он хочет?
[17:11] <binali> Sony, who ?
[17:11] <sony> bluesky
[17:12] <binali> Он хочет на английском
[17:12] <BluesKaj_> sony english please
[17:12] <sony> ok
[17:12] <BluesKaj_> same goes for you binali
[17:13] <sony> Who is he?
[17:13] <binali> BluesKaj_ sorry man) We talking about Win 8.1
[17:13] <BluesKaj_> or join #ubuntu-ru
[17:13] <sony> and unity
[17:13] <binali> yes!
[17:14] <BluesKaj_> no matter , then join #windows-ru
[17:15] <binali> No)) I leave Win 8.1, and now use Kubuntu))
[17:16] <BluesKaj_> then if you have a kubuntu question , ask in english
[17:17] <binali> Okay) How to add another language in KDE?
[17:21] <BluesKaj_> binali_, kmenu>computer>system settings>locale
[17:23] <binali_> BluesKaj, thank you so much!
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[18:10] <Watcher> unable to boot after upgrade from 3.2.0-56 to 3.2.0-57. I can still boot into 3.2.0-56
[18:28] <rberg> Watcher:  were there any errors reported? or is /boot full?
[18:35] <lars_> test
[18:39] <Watcher> rberg: No errors and /boot is not full. When I try to boot the new kernel everything looks normal and several services start OK, then the system just freezes with "Started: OK" with no service actuall listed. ANd the system is hard lock and requires a power down.
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[19:26] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[19:26] <ubottu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
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[19:43] <linuxruinedmylif> could someone explain to me how to associate magnet links in firefox with ktorrent
[19:43] <linuxruinedmylif> about:config doesn't work
[19:43] <linuxruinedmylif> file associations in system settings should
[19:43] <linuxruinedmylif> but i'm not sure what to do there
[20:05] <uBUXUBu> what is your goal linuxruinedmylif exactly what is it that you are trying to do?
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[20:49] <linuxruinedmylif> uBUBUBu I'm trying to associate magnet links with Ktorrent. i don't how to do that
[20:49] <linuxruinedmylif> i assume i can do that in the system settings, under file associations, but I don't know how to set it up
[20:50] <linuxruinedmylif> i tried solutions given for about:config in firefox but they don't work
[21:05] <uBUXUBu> when u cluck to begin a torrent doesnt it prompt your default client to begin on its own?
[21:05] <uBUXUBu> click*
[21:07] <uBUXUBu> are you using the latest up to date software?
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[21:54] <baizon> hi, a quick question... you guys think Kubuntu 13.10 will run smooth on a 1.6GHz Laptop?
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[21:54] <tonichaz> buenas
[21:57] <BluesKaj> baizon, yes . if you have sufficient RAM
[21:57] <baizon> BluesKaj: 4GB?
[21:57] <BluesKaj> that's plenty , baizon
[21:58] <baizon> ok, thanks. Will test it for a while :)
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[22:54] <Guest38273> howdy all
[22:55] <Guest38273> I just tried to update to 4.12 but can no longer login- enter password, login box disappears but nothing else happens
[22:55] <jussi> Guest38273: firs, ctrl+alt+f3
[22:55] <Guest38273> anyone up for giving me a hand?
[22:56] <jussi> login there, and make sure you have run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:56] <Guest38273> I've tried tailing all the logs in /var/log but nothing seel
[22:56] <Guest38273> is output
[22:57] <Guest38273> the update has obviously failed as there are missing dependencies
[22:57] <Guest38273> and my network is no longer working
[22:57] <jussi> hrm
[22:57] <jussi> so, try running sudo apt-get install -f
[22:58] <Guest38273> fails to download packages
[22:58] <jussi> wired or wireless?
[22:59] <Guest38273> wireless
[22:59] <Guest38273> was working before the update
[23:00] <jussi> yeah, can you get to wired for doing the update?
[23:00] <Guest38273> let me hunt for an Ethernet cable
[23:00] <Guest38273> cheers
[23:06] <Guest38273> k. installing
[23:10] <jussi> Guest38273: I would guess when that is done, reboot (to be sure, you may not have to) and see if it works
[23:11] <Guest38273> just rebooted and no joy. running an upgrade
[23:13] <jussi> Guest38273: do let us know how you get on...
[23:16] <Guest38273> it's still upgrading
[23:16] <Guest38273> can but cross fingers
[23:20] <Guest38273> well there is a nice new background on the login screen now but i'm still not able to log in :(
[23:23] <Guest38273> jussi: any ideas bout where to look?
[23:24] <Guest38273> if I do an upgrade again 66 packages have been held back
[23:24] <jussi> hrm, yeah, I had a similar issue a while back, was a config issue. but before you do that, go and check kubuntu-desktop is in stalled (sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop)
[23:25] <jussi> Guest38273: do you have extra repos installed?
[23:26] <Guest38273> just the one necessary for the 4.12 release
[23:26] <Guest38273> reinstalling kubuntu-desktop
[23:30] <Guest38273>   infamous reboot!
[23:31] <Guest38273> getting closer!
[23:31] <jussi> well?
[23:32] <Guest38273> got the splash screen
[23:32] <Guest38273> we're in!
[23:32] <jussi> Guest38273: Im really sorry, but I must now sleep. its 1:30 am.
[23:32] <jussi> oh!
[23:32] <jussi> glad it works! :D
[23:32] <Guest38273> good timing! :)
[23:33] <Guest38273> thanks very much dude
[23:33] <jussi> you are most welcome
[23:33] <Guest38273> rest well knowing you did a great deed!
[23:33] <jussi> hehe, all in a days work
[23:41] <vimar> hi everybody
[23:59] <uBUXUBu> any plans for assing unity as the default kubuntu desktop environment?
[23:59] <uBUXUBu> adding*