[00:21] <soee> hi
[00:23] <uBUXUBu> hello soee
[01:55] <mdpatrick> I'm running kubuntu with ubuntu 13.04... i hate my desktop. I want something that feels more like OS X or some of the pre-metro versions of windows. What I've got is just totally unintuitive... I spent 15 minutes trying to find my wifi. What is a common desktop choice that isnt too fringe?
[01:55] <mdpatrick> Or how can I customize this to feel more normal?
[02:08] <SudoName> hey all ... anyone feel like giving me a hand?  Got a question about something
[02:13] <SudoName> my home dir seems to have reset back to its initial install state ... except for the fact that the directories I created still exist ... all the files that were there (even in those directories) seem to be just gone ... I doubt the files are completely gone but not sure what happened and of course how to get everything back
[02:46] <skreech__> SudoName: You can adjust to how you like
[02:47] <skreech__> mdpatrick: Wait You I mean :)
[02:47] <mdpatrick> skreech__: You lost me :)
[02:48] <skreech__> mdpatrick: Normal is a strange thing for computers :)
[02:48] <skreech__> mdpatrick: What's bugging you?
[02:48] <mdpatrick> skreech__: I know -- I'm trying to talk about something that's qualitative in nature but I'm misrepresenting it as something that's more tangible
[02:49] <skreech__> mdpatrick: do you know about alt+F2 ?
[02:49] <mdpatrick> skreech__: When I look at KDE plasma's website, for example, I see a speaker in the corner of the screen for controlling volume/mixing console (like Windows)... I see a digital clock (like Windows)
[02:49] <mdpatrick> It's obvious that's what they're representing as sort of out of the box
[02:49] <mdpatrick> Yet kubuntu isn't like that.
[02:50] <mdpatrick> I might be able to click the cashew, add the digital clock to the panel, etc... but I'd rather just start with something that's already closer to the mark
[02:51] <skreech__> mdpatrick: You don't have a Sys tray?
[02:52] <skreech__> mdpatrick: that's kinda odd
[02:53] <mdpatrick> I think I do. I have a panel with the KDE button in the bottom left... but when I look to the right I see only a panel. I want some system icons.
[02:53] <mdpatrick> Like here's one that really burned me up: not being able to find an icon for WiFi, despite the fact that my wifi works & driver is installed
[02:54] <mdpatrick> On OSX, that's in the top right hand corner -- in Windows pre-metro, bottom left hand... kubuntu... ??
[02:54] <skreech__> mdpatrick: Again should be in the systray. You don't have a clock in the bottom?
[02:55] <mdpatrick> Nope
[02:55] <skreech__> >_>
[02:55] <mdpatrick> I'm running 13.04 ATM, not sure if that's relevant -- seems like its relatively recent
[02:56] <skreech__> Ok so lets go over the basic. you have a bar at the bottom with a K and the list of the applications running?
[02:56] <skreech__> What's to the left of that?
[03:34] <mdpatrick> skreech__: Sorry got distracted :) You deserve better than that for trying to help! I do have that bar, and theres nothing to the left of the KDE application launcher button
[03:35] <mdpatrick> the "start" button is the furthermost left. There's also a panel at the top of the screen with the cashew that's otherwise blank
[03:38]  * skreech__ blinks
[03:38] <skreech__> At teh top eh?
[03:38] <skreech__> mdpatrick: So let me see if I can do a quick reset of your desktop
[03:38] <skreech__> Mind spending 15 minutes for that?
[03:49] <skreech__> Open a konsole and type this in there.
[03:51] <skreech__> mkdir -p ~/backup/config ; kquitapp plasma-desktop && sleep 6 && mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-* ~/backup/config && plasma-desktop&
[03:51] <skreech__> That should reset your desktop to default
[04:03] <mdpatrick> skreech__: Great -- currently updating kubuntu, and will run that as soon as it's done. Thank you!!!
[05:28] <scorch__> So . . . Is there any help with Dolphin? I can find the files in a manual search but Dolphin fails to find them regardless of how I search and "options" are all greyed out. . .
[05:32] <scorch__> Is this a Kubuntu support room and would this include the Dolphin file manager?
[05:32] <valorie> scorch__: yes
[05:32] <valorie> by "manual search", what do you mean?
[05:33] <valorie> by the way, I've noticed traffic on all the irc channels on all the servers I'm on, is very light
[05:34] <valorie> even people who don't celebrate xmas are not on for one reason or another
[05:34] <scorch__> IE I can go to root/usr/share/sounds/KDE-Im-Cant-Connect.ogg but if I try to find ANY .ogg or any of the specific file names, dolphin fails to find them.
[05:35] <valorie> I see
[05:35] <valorie> is this a new install?
[05:35] <scorch__> Fairly new. All updates as well.
[05:36] <valorie> I ask because it sounds like dolphin's indexer didn't get a chance to index your files yet
[05:37] <valorie> but if you've had it up and running more than a few hours, presumably nepomuk has had a chance to do its thing
[05:37] <scorch__> deffinately more than a few hours and all desktop indexing is on.
[05:38] <valorie> I wish I was better equipped to help, but I'm just a fellow user
[05:38] <scorch__> But dolphin options are all greyed out as well.
[05:38] <valorie> that's def. not right
[05:40] <valorie> scorch__: there is a #dolphin chan, but only 2 people in it
[05:40] <valorie> perhaps someone in #kde is more expert than me
[05:40]  * valorie goes afk for a few mins
[05:40] <scorch__> I saw that room. And it's password protected.
[05:40] <valorie> no
[05:40] <valorie> #kde is an open channel
[05:41] <valorie> just like this one is
[05:41] <sharpertongue>  
[05:41] <scorch__> Tried joining #dolphin and it wanted a password.
[05:41]  * scorch__ wanders off to try #kde.
[05:42] <valorie> ah ok, maybe #dolphin, dunno
[06:03] <hopelessss> greetings.
[06:03] <hopelessss> im having a really anoying problem.
[06:04] <hopelessss> this is my first attempt to use kubuntu
[06:04] <hopelessss> and kubuntu stop loading just after i entered my logins info
[06:05] <hopelessss> no need to mention that im not linux expert.
[06:05] <hopelessss> but I'm having another computer to perform test live. Any help is greatly appreciated :)
[06:14] <valorie> hopelessss: did it run for you ok in the live session?
[06:18] <hopelessss> valorie: affirmative
[06:21] <valorie> hopelessss: how much work would it be to just re-install?
[06:21] <valorie> it sounds like something wasn't completely built
[06:21] <hopelessss> well i'd like to understand
[06:21] <valorie> I understand
[06:21] <hopelessss> also it worked very well the first time
[06:21] <hopelessss> just before a reboot
[06:22] <valorie> ah
[06:22] <valorie> it seems that all the experts are sleeping or busy
[06:22]  * valorie isn't much help, I'm afraid
[06:23] <valorie> my installs and upgrades have pretty much been without incident
[06:23] <valorie> not much of a learning experience, I guess
[06:27] <hopelessss> valorie: well your presence is enough. Im felling very lonely with my corrupted computer, here
[06:28] <hopelessss> in fact startx wont start
[06:28] <valorie> yes, I've had problems before, and it's easy to panic
[06:28] <valorie> as long as you have another on which to do research, you'll get through this
[06:28] <valorie> irc is so great for that
[06:29] <valorie> too bad no experts are at their keyboards right now though
[08:07] <safridzal> hi, i'm using saucy and I found that i have to install kmail or else I cannot have akregator installed.. is there a way to just make akregator installed and kmail not? I;ve already using thunderbird, and I think kmail isnt for me..
[08:08] <safridzal> i;ve tried to mark akregator and kmail as manually installed, but apt still ask to remove akregator if I want to remove kmail
[08:09] <safridzal> muon says that kmail isnt dependency of akregator
[08:11] <valorie> can't you just not use Kmail?
[08:11] <valorie> as I recall, Kontact is the whole suite
[08:11] <valorie> while kmail can be used alone
[08:11] <valorie> !info akregator
[08:12] <safridzal> valorie: i think there;s no need of kmail if a user just want to install feed reader..
[08:12] <valorie> I get what you are saying
[08:13] <valorie> but I think the suite was all designed to work together
[08:13] <valorie> you can use one part and not the rest, but I think you get the whole thing anyway
[08:13] <safridzal> all i can find is this : http://www.linuxine.com/story/why-does-purging-kmail-remove-akregator-and-korganizer
[08:14] <safridzal> it says that the problem is somewhere in the packaging.. but i cannot open the kde bug
[08:16] <valorie> I can, and the kdepim devel reports that you can use akregator by itself
[08:16] <valorie> kde bug 326859
[08:16] <valorie> you can't open that?
[08:18] <valorie> safridzal: I just removed kmail from my system
[08:18] <safridzal> wait.,seems like my network
[08:18] <valorie> akregator is still installed
[08:18] <valorie> I just used muon to do that while we were talking
[08:19] <valorie> running 13.10, with KDE 4.12.0
[08:21] <safridzal> http://pastebin.kde.org/p9fa1ed4a
[08:23] <safridzal> valorie: i think its because i still use 4.11
[08:23] <valorie> do you have backports installed, safridzal?
[08:23] <valorie> could be
[08:23] <valorie> because i think the fix is recent
[08:24] <valorie> well, 2013-10-30
[08:24] <safridzal> valorie: dist-upgrade cannot upgrade to 4.12
[08:24] <safridzal> where do you get that?
[08:24] <valorie> if you allow backports, yes you can
[08:25] <valorie> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.12
[08:25] <valorie> I did that sometime this last week
[08:25] <valorie> all is working well for me
[08:26] <safridzal> owh, i get that,, kde-backport ppa
[08:26] <safridzal> at first i think its saucy-backport
[08:27] <safridzal> great, i'll add that ppa.. thanks valorie
[08:27] <valorie> super!
[08:27] <valorie> good luck
[08:27] <safridzal> :D
[10:19] <uBUXUBu> just had something weird happen, when i did the join command to come here nothing happened for aboiut 10 seconds then i came here
[11:05] <claycorn> hello?
[11:05] <claycorn> anybody having issues with google earth?
[11:24] <uBUXUBu> doesnt work
[12:31] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:34] <Avihay> hi
[13:04] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[13:05] <monfis> i dont understend why alpha kubuntu 14.04 dont chash weni use it 3 day's
[13:07] <lordievader> monfis: Ain't it great :)
[13:09] <monfis> its not great. i use live end i not motiwe to restart
[13:10] <lordievader> Not crashing is usually seen as a good thing...
[13:11] <monfis> eh. i borned like using windows. ;(
[13:13] <monfis> its not chars bat altothough using my pc
[13:14] <monfis> on windows som popel using my pc my, my famyli end sam internaut's
[13:14] <monfis> :D
[13:15] <monfis> sory of my langlage i lern english.
[13:26] <BluesKaj> !pl | monfis
[13:28] <monfis> ubottu i used english
[16:23] <cortexA9> hello
[16:23] <cortexA9> i need to update quantal to saucy is it possible ?
[16:24] <cortexA9> An upgrade from 'quantal' to 'saucy' is not supported with this tool.
[16:24] <cortexA9> why not ?
[16:30] <BluesKaj_> have to upgrade to raring then to saucy
[16:30] <BluesKaj_> cortexA9,^
[16:31] <cortexA9> BluesKaj_:  oh ok
[16:31] <cortexA9> BluesKaj_: how ?
[16:40] <cortexA9> ok found a way :)
[16:58] <sony> lk;
[17:00] <binali> hi people)
[17:00] <sony> hi
[17:00] <binali> How Are You,
[17:01] <binali> ?
[17:02] <sony> I'm good
[17:02] <sony> You?
[17:02] <binali> Thanks, i'm okay)
[17:03] <sony> Where are you from?
[17:04] <binali> I'm from Kazakhstan. And you?
[17:04] <sony> moscow
[17:04] <binali> Это круто)
[17:05] <sony> Возможно
[17:05] <binali> Окей.
[17:05] <binali> Давно тут?
[17:05] <sony> слушай, а что это за чат понять не могу
[17:05] <sony> 2 минуты
[17:06] <binali> Это платворма где все пользователи могут советоваться, делиться опытом, или просто общаться)
[17:06] <binali> платформа*
[17:06] <sony> понял
[17:06] <sony> а добавлять и искать как?
[17:06] <binali> Давно изпользуешь kubuntu,
[17:06] <binali> ?
[17:06] <sony> год
[17:06] <sony> до этого ubuntu 3 ujlf
[17:06] <binali> тут такого нет)) разве что если канал другой добавить)
[17:07] <sony> все ясно)))
[17:07] <binali> Я неделю юзал просто убунту, вот решил перелезть на кубунту, потому что интерфес Unity мне не очень)
[17:07] <binali> Да и винда достала просто!!
[17:08] <sony> я тоже устал с ним драться
[17:08] <sony> попробовал kubuntu
[17:08] <sony> все супер ненарадуюсь
[17:08] <binali> Последний раз была Win 8.1
[17:08] <binali> Это просто вирус!!
[17:08] <binali> А не ОС
[17:08] <FloodBotK1> binali: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:08] <sony> и я ставил на 2 часа хватило)))
[17:09] <BluesKaj_> !ru
 binali: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.)))
[17:10] <binali> у меня около месяца стояло.. я потом подумал зачем мне это надо... программировать на Php можно и под Линуксом, даже эффективнее)
[17:10] <binali>  /join #ubuntu-ru
[17:10] <binali> =)
[17:11] <BluesKaj_> binali, english please
[17:11] <sony> чего он хочет?
[17:11] <binali> Sony, who ?
[17:11] <sony> bluesky
[17:12] <binali> Он хочет на английском
[17:12] <BluesKaj_> sony english please
[17:12] <sony> ok
[17:12] <BluesKaj_> same goes for you binali
[17:13] <sony> Who is he?
[17:13] <binali> BluesKaj_ sorry man) We talking about Win 8.1
[17:13] <BluesKaj_> or join #ubuntu-ru
[17:13] <sony> and unity
[17:13] <binali> yes!
[17:14] <BluesKaj_> no matter , then join #windows-ru
[17:15] <binali> No)) I leave Win 8.1, and now use Kubuntu))
[17:16] <BluesKaj_> then if you have a kubuntu question , ask in english
[17:17] <binali> Okay) How to add another language in KDE?
[17:21] <BluesKaj_> binali_, kmenu>computer>system settings>locale
[17:23] <binali_> BluesKaj, thank you so much!
[18:10] <Watcher> unable to boot after upgrade from 3.2.0-56 to 3.2.0-57. I can still boot into 3.2.0-56
[18:28] <rberg> Watcher:  were there any errors reported? or is /boot full?
[18:35] <lars_> test
[18:39] <Watcher> rberg: No errors and /boot is not full. When I try to boot the new kernel everything looks normal and several services start OK, then the system just freezes with "Started: OK" with no service actuall listed. ANd the system is hard lock and requires a power down.
[19:26] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[19:43] <linuxruinedmylif> could someone explain to me how to associate magnet links in firefox with ktorrent
[19:43] <linuxruinedmylif> about:config doesn't work
[19:43] <linuxruinedmylif> file associations in system settings should
[19:43] <linuxruinedmylif> but i'm not sure what to do there
[20:05] <uBUXUBu> what is your goal linuxruinedmylif exactly what is it that you are trying to do?
[20:49] <linuxruinedmylif> uBUBUBu I'm trying to associate magnet links with Ktorrent. i don't how to do that
[20:49] <linuxruinedmylif> i assume i can do that in the system settings, under file associations, but I don't know how to set it up
[20:50] <linuxruinedmylif> i tried solutions given for about:config in firefox but they don't work
[21:05] <uBUXUBu> when u cluck to begin a torrent doesnt it prompt your default client to begin on its own?
[21:05] <uBUXUBu> click*
[21:07] <uBUXUBu> are you using the latest up to date software?
[21:54] <baizon> hi, a quick question... you guys think Kubuntu 13.10 will run smooth on a 1.6GHz Laptop?
[21:54] <tonichaz> buenas
[21:57] <BluesKaj> baizon, yes . if you have sufficient RAM
[21:57] <baizon> BluesKaj: 4GB?
[21:57] <BluesKaj> that's plenty , baizon
[21:58] <baizon> ok, thanks. Will test it for a while :)
[22:54] <Guest38273> howdy all
[22:55] <Guest38273> I just tried to update to 4.12 but can no longer login- enter password, login box disappears but nothing else happens
[22:55] <jussi> Guest38273: firs, ctrl+alt+f3
[22:55] <Guest38273> anyone up for giving me a hand?
[22:56] <jussi> login there, and make sure you have run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:56] <Guest38273> I've tried tailing all the logs in /var/log but nothing seel
[22:56] <Guest38273> is output
[22:57] <Guest38273> the update has obviously failed as there are missing dependencies
[22:57] <Guest38273> and my network is no longer working
[22:57] <jussi> hrm
[22:57] <jussi> so, try running sudo apt-get install -f
[22:58] <Guest38273> fails to download packages
[22:58] <jussi> wired or wireless?
[22:59] <Guest38273> wireless
[22:59] <Guest38273> was working before the update
[23:00] <jussi> yeah, can you get to wired for doing the update?
[23:00] <Guest38273> let me hunt for an Ethernet cable
[23:00] <Guest38273> cheers
[23:06] <Guest38273> k. installing
[23:10] <jussi> Guest38273: I would guess when that is done, reboot (to be sure, you may not have to) and see if it works
[23:11] <Guest38273> just rebooted and no joy. running an upgrade
[23:13] <jussi> Guest38273: do let us know how you get on...
[23:16] <Guest38273> it's still upgrading
[23:16] <Guest38273> can but cross fingers
[23:20] <Guest38273> well there is a nice new background on the login screen now but i'm still not able to log in :(
[23:23] <Guest38273> jussi: any ideas bout where to look?
[23:24] <Guest38273> if I do an upgrade again 66 packages have been held back
[23:24] <jussi> hrm, yeah, I had a similar issue a while back, was a config issue. but before you do that, go and check kubuntu-desktop is in stalled (sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop)
[23:25] <jussi> Guest38273: do you have extra repos installed?
[23:26] <Guest38273> just the one necessary for the 4.12 release
[23:26] <Guest38273> reinstalling kubuntu-desktop
[23:30] <Guest38273>   infamous reboot!
[23:31] <Guest38273> getting closer!
[23:31] <jussi> well?
[23:32] <Guest38273> got the splash screen
[23:32] <Guest38273> we're in!
[23:32] <jussi> Guest38273: Im really sorry, but I must now sleep. its 1:30 am.
[23:32] <jussi> oh!
[23:32] <jussi> glad it works! :D
[23:32] <Guest38273> good timing! :)
[23:33] <Guest38273> thanks very much dude
[23:33] <jussi> you are most welcome
[23:33] <Guest38273> rest well knowing you did a great deed!
[23:33] <jussi> hehe, all in a days work
[23:41] <vimar> hi everybody
[23:59] <uBUXUBu> any plans for assing unity as the default kubuntu desktop environment?
[23:59] <uBUXUBu> adding*