[08:08] <anpok> duflu: it didnt feel right to make something called greeter thats just a stripped down basic_server example..
[08:08] <duflu> anpok: There are always more options. It's just /less wrong/ than modifying render_surfaces or demo-shell
[08:09] <anpok> especially since you have to run a shall, a client to the shell, a basic "greeter" nested in the shell, and an application yielding transparent buffers..
[08:09] <anpok> to actually see the difference
[08:10] <anpok> hmm changing render_surfaces did feel less wrong then adding something similar like basic_server .
[08:11] <duflu> anpok: render_surfaces should be considered dead and frozen code. And demo_shell should never get transparency support like any real shell. That leaves only the creation of a demo_greeter if you want a real example
[08:13] <duflu> anpok: I understand your frustration. My first few features took over a month each to get approved. But it gets easier
[08:13] <anpok> not frustrated at all
[08:13] <anpok> well a more real example would be nice, but I had the impression that adding a demo_greeter that is kind of real would be a lot more effort
[08:13] <duflu> Glad to hear it then
[08:14] <duflu> anpok: A demo greeter doesn't have to do anything other than copy the basic server demo and do a glClear to some colour :)
[08:14] <anpok> hmm
[08:14] <anpok> demo_clearer :)
[08:15] <anpok> I had that bad feeling that I did spend too much time on that change
[08:16] <anpok> changing things over agaian is really issue - with each steps things got better - at least thats what I believe :)
[08:16] <anpok> *really no
[08:16] <anpok> -typos_all_over_the_place
[08:17] <anpok> regaring - clear - so thats why you suggested adding some means to change the clear color..
[08:34] <duflu> anpok: Actually I suggested it because of bugs I had run into, not being able to tell if I was moving a client surface or the nested server :)
[12:16] <greyback> Hi guys, anyone here using XMir? I am, and this morning it failed to start the unity-system-compositor. I was stuck at black screen.
[12:47] <mlankhorst> hm :P
[12:51] <mlankhorst> is mir broken on nexus7? I tried flashing the latest devel image, stops refreshing after a few seconds