=== chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === duflu_ is now known as duflu === tvoss|dinner is now known as tvoss [08:08] duflu: it didnt feel right to make something called greeter thats just a stripped down basic_server example.. [08:08] anpok: There are always more options. It's just /less wrong/ than modifying render_surfaces or demo-shell [08:09] especially since you have to run a shall, a client to the shell, a basic "greeter" nested in the shell, and an application yielding transparent buffers.. [08:09] to actually see the difference [08:10] hmm changing render_surfaces did feel less wrong then adding something similar like basic_server . [08:11] anpok: render_surfaces should be considered dead and frozen code. And demo_shell should never get transparency support like any real shell. That leaves only the creation of a demo_greeter if you want a real example [08:13] anpok: I understand your frustration. My first few features took over a month each to get approved. But it gets easier [08:13] not frustrated at all [08:13] well a more real example would be nice, but I had the impression that adding a demo_greeter that is kind of real would be a lot more effort [08:13] Glad to hear it then [08:14] anpok: A demo greeter doesn't have to do anything other than copy the basic server demo and do a glClear to some colour :) [08:14] hmm [08:14] demo_clearer :) [08:15] I had that bad feeling that I did spend too much time on that change [08:16] changing things over agaian is really issue - with each steps things got better - at least thats what I believe :) [08:16] *really no [08:16] -typos_all_over_the_place [08:17] regaring - clear - so thats why you suggested adding some means to change the clear color.. [08:34] anpok: Actually I suggested it because of bugs I had run into, not being able to tell if I was moving a client surface or the nested server :) === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [12:16] Hi guys, anyone here using XMir? I am, and this morning it failed to start the unity-system-compositor. I was stuck at black screen. [12:47] hm :P [12:51] is mir broken on nexus7? I tried flashing the latest devel image, stops refreshing after a few seconds === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk