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elfy#team - do we have any update on the session bugs in the live sessions ?07:37
ochosibrainwash: in case Noskcaj is around again and i'm not until then, the gtk3 indicator patch should be applied as a patch for now (although obviously the goal is a new panel release, but that might take too long, we need testing now rather than after the release)10:00
slickymastermorning all10:20
slickymasterjjfrv8: ping10:20
amerigenaChecked the website - is anyone else having problems with mousepad?12:05
slickymasterbbl12:50
elfyochosi: not sure I understand what you've said to brainwash - surely what we need is it released properly so that it can be tested, not rely on people fiddling with ppa's and patches13:32
dokoany xfce upstream devs here?15:46
dokowho do I need to bribe that upstream releases something which can be rebuilt using dh-autoreconf?15:47
dokocurrently, I need changes like this: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/160507329/xfconf_4.10.0-2_4.10.0-2ubuntu1.diff.gz15:47
andrzejrdoko, that's a patch against configure script, can you post a patch against configure.ac/Makefile.am?15:52
dokoandrzejr, no, see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=72640415:53
ubottuDebian bug 726404 in libtool "libtool: Backport a new architecture (ppc64le) to Debian" [Wishlist,Open]15:53
andrzejrand do you have problem only with xfconf?15:54
dokoandrzejr, which autoconf and automake versions does xfce require to build the autofiles?15:54
dokoandrzejr, no, with every package15:54
dokoso I would prefer if you would use dh-autoreconf for the packaging15:55
andrzejrif so, go to #xfce-dev and ping NSchermer, or better drop him an email.15:55
dokoprovided that you can make it work15:55
andrzejrdoko, this *may* be an issue with xfce4-dev-tools but I am not the person to help you with that16:07
dokook16:10
pmjdebruijnhi guys16:36
pmjdebruijnhttps://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10566 that might be of interest16:36
ubottubugzilla.xfce.org bug 10566 in General "Display Power Percentage" [Enhancement,New]16:36
andrzejrdoko, what version of xfce4-dev-tools are you using?17:05
andrzejrdoko, if you are using a released version (with configure script etc.) it means someone has already used xfce4-dev-tools+autotools. So the version of the latter does not matter.17:14
andrzejrI guess that part of the problem is that most of the releases were made quite some time ago, so whoever run "make distcheck" was likely using an old version of autotools.17:15
andrzejrIt would be interesting if you could re-run autogen.sh and check if the output matches your expectations.17:17
dokoandrzejr, do you do the ubuntu packaging?17:22
dokobecause dh-autoreconf is supposed to do that. but doesn't. could you give me a recipy what to do for every package?17:22
andrzejrno, don't know how dh-* stuff works17:23
andrzejryou said you are modifying ./configure script - this script is generated using autotools and xfce-dev-tools. So if it is wrong then something happened when a developer run "make distcheck" when releasing a package.17:24
dokoandrzejr, sure, but it very depends on the versions of the autotools, not all of them available in ubuntu17:25
andrzejrautotools (from the distribution) are only used before making configure script. Once it is ready, the package includes its own copy of all scripts it needs. (which may be out of date if it was released long time ago)17:27
dokoandrzejr, yes, that's the problem. what's the solution? ;p17:29
andrzejrI wonder if just recreating configure script would help. If so, the only thing needed would be another *.1 release.17:31
andrzejrCan you try running autogen.sh on your side and see if that helps?17:31
andrzejror git clone the package and run "make distcheck" -> this should produce a ready to use tarball for you.17:32
dokohmm, I think I'll wait for one of the xfce packagers. it's not that urgent. let's pick it up later17:35
xnoxandrzejr: the problem is with packaging, not the upstream. A new point upstream release will not help, as we need to update libtool with unreleased libtool-patch (as in not released libtool patch). Unless upstream uses libtool from trusty to generate the tarballs.18:05
andrzejrxnox, I see, thank you. Is libtool going to be released anytime soon? We could update dependencies to require it. 19:00
Noskcajlderan, Any chance you could help me with the gthumb testcase?22:54
lderansure thing22:54
NoskcajHow can i find if an app is open, via app_proxy? There aren't any tests i can base this on22:59
lderantheres something for getting an app that isn't created by autopilot mmm23:05
Noskcajhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6626082/ is what i have so far (the fullscreen bit is broken, but that's for later)23:12
NoskcajI'm slowly trying to fill in http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1588/info23:12
lderanshall see what i can do :)23:15
Noskcajthanks23:16
NoskcajAlso, how do i find the properties of a window, so i can actually test things?23:19
lderanmmm23:29
lderani shall have to ask the autopilot guy some questions on that front, from the last we talked it he confirmed that we will be able to test it if opens23:31
Noskcajlderan, i was talking to dan and elfy, We'll probably make a xubuntu autopilot branch eventually, but catfish, gthumb, and simple scan are what we should start on, since they introspect23:37
lderanaye23:37
Noskcajlderan, Next time you make an autopilot test, could you use docstrings instead of comments to describe each function?23:58
lderanof course23:59

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