[00:09] <markthomas> nwilson5, The default gateway is the destination for all packets not bound for 1) a local subnet, or 2) a network with an explicitly-defined route.
[00:10] <markthomas> nwilson5, So you wouldn't really need more than one.  If you need finer-grained control over routing, you need to define routing table entries other than the default route.
[00:26] <bitbyte> Hey guys do you know if bug report #728666 has been resolved ?
[00:27] <bitbyte> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=728666
[00:27] <bitbyte> i take the "normal, open" as no still under going root cause ?
[00:27] <bitbyte> mr bot?
[02:11] <nyRednek> hey, can i define multiple ssl keys to be used by one instance of postfix?
[04:28] <lamont> nyRednek: ssl is negotatied fairly early, which makes it hard to use more than one SSL key on any given {IP,Port}   Having said that, if you want them on different IPs or Ports, that could be done with -o options inside of master.cf
[04:29] <nyRednek> lamont: thanks
[12:47] <ice9> what is the best way to backup the whole system, by making an archive of it or just copying the whole files with ordinary cp or rsync?
[12:58] <RoyK> ice9: I'd use rsync
[12:58] <RoyK> or perhaps tar
[12:58] <RoyK> but rsync works well
[13:09] <Ontani> its strange, the device is booted completely but the splashscreen doesn't go away
[14:47] <orogor> hi
[14:47] <orogor> may somone enlighten me on a not so simple memory usage question ?
[14:47] <orogor> all swap is off, sum of rss memory is 2G , 1G is cache , yet i have 7gb used , 1gb free
[14:47] <orogor> blender trying to allowate more than 1gb get oom killed, so thats  really 1gb free
[14:50] <RoyK> blender on a server?
[14:50] <orogor> well...no
[14:51] <orogor> but #blender is often a bit childish so i dont hang there too much
[15:34] <eagles0513875> hey guys I have a question im trying to set a user through ACL to have access to /var/log yet i get a message setfacl -m u:jaquilina:rx /var/log setfacl: /var/log: Operation not supported
[15:34] <eagles0513875> what am I missing?
[15:39] <orogor> setfacl -m u:jaquilina:r ; setfacl -m u:jaquilina:x  works ?
[15:45] <jrwren_> eagles0513875: do you have permissions to /var/log to set a facl to it?
[15:45] <jrwren_> orogor: is blender trying to allocate huge chunk of contiguous memory?
[15:45] <eagles0513875> jrwren_: im trying to set the permissions for my user using root
[15:46] <eagles0513875> i should be able to do so as root no?
[15:46] <orogor> i am unsure your syntax is good
[15:46] <jrwren_> eagles0513875: yes.
[15:46] <eagles0513875> well its not letting me
[15:46] <eagles0513875> is the syntax i have above right or am i missing something
[15:46] <jrwren_> eagles0513875: try r-x instead of rx
[15:47] <orogor> jrwren_, noidea
[15:47] <eagles0513875> jrwren_: nope with r-x it still gives me the operation not supported issue
[15:47] <jrwren_> sudo setfacl -m u:jrwren:r-x /var/log #WFM
[15:47] <jrwren_> eagles0513875: oh! is the filesystem mounted with acl?
[15:47] <eagles0513875> oh crap i think that is what im missing
[15:48] <eagles0513875> ahh that is what i forgot doh
[15:48] <eagles0513875> brb
[15:48] <jrwren_> sudo mount -o remount,acl /
[15:48] <jrwren_> :)
[15:50] <eagles0513875> thanks jrwren_
[16:05] <harushimo> openstack question: has anyone set it up here?
[16:05] <harushimo> I'm using ubuntu server
[16:15] <jrwren_> harushimo: yes, a bit.
[16:15] <jrwren_> harushimo: one does not simply setup openstack :)
[16:17] <harushimo> jwren: they are missing packages that i'm encountering
[16:17] <jrwren_> which pkgs?
[16:17] <jrwren_> are you using cloud archive?
[16:17] <harushimo> jrwren: no
[16:17] <jrwren_> use cloud archive
[16:18] <harushimo> thank you. Is that where all the files are
[16:20] <harushimo> jrwren: the packages are nova-conductor and neutron-server
[16:20] <harushimo> I didn't get the keystone-all either
[16:20] <jrwren_> given that neutro didn't exist until havana (rename), yes, you MUST use cloud archive to get those.
[16:20] <harushimo> thank you so much. I'll add it to the source list
[16:21] <jrwren_> the guide should have said to use cloud arhive
[16:21] <harushimo> no it didn't
[16:21] <harushimo> I'm using the one from openstack foundation
[16:22] <harushimo> when I add the new site to get the application, add it to my source list and then do I need to do apt-get update
[16:23] <jrwren_> http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/basics-packages.html  says it is optional
[16:23] <jrwren_> but its required to use a version newer than what shipped with that version of ubuntu server.
[16:24] <harushimo> so I pretty much need to get everything again
[16:25] <harushimo> I got most of the packages from ubuntu repository not the cloud repository correct?
[16:25] <jrwren_> i think 12.04 shipped with folsom or maybe essex
[16:25] <jrwren_> yes, if you didn't configure any other repo, then you got it from ubuntu repository
[16:26] <harushimo> jrwren: I should be able update those packages even if I download them from cloud archive correct?
[16:27] <jrwren_> yes
[16:27] <harushimo> jrwren: perfect. let me try all of this. if I get anymore questions, I'll ask you. thanks
[16:27] <jrwren_> yw
[16:55] <eagles0513875> jrwren_: even with ACL permissions on /var/log i am not able to copy them on to my local machine :(
[16:56] <jrwren_> eagles0513875: i'm not sure what copy you are trying
[16:58] <eagles0513875> jrwren_: just drag and drop im on dolphin in this laptop as im running kde. im using the fish protocol
[16:58] <eagles0513875> which is a fancy way to do sftp
[16:59] <jrwren_> some files are still not readable. e.g. /var/log/syslog is 640 not 644 by default.
[16:59] <jrwren_> eagles0513875: what exactly are you trying to do?
[17:03] <eagles0513875> jrwren_: basically sftp the syslogs from this system for indepth analysis
[17:04] <jrwren_> just syslogs? those get rotated, maybe setup a cron job to setfacl on them? or change logrotate to setfacl after rotating
[17:04] <eagles0513875> jrwren_: i know they get rotated im wanting to pull the current syslog and the rotated ones
[17:05] <jrwren_> sudo setfacl -m u:jrwren:r-- /var/log/syslog*
[17:06] <jrwren_> and add setfacl -m u:jrwren:r-- /var/log/syslog to the postrotate section of /etc/logrotate.d/rsyslog
[17:06] <eagles0513875> jrwren_: i have rx on /var/log
[17:06] <jrwren_> so the permissions stay
[17:06] <jrwren_> yes, that lets you read the contents of that directory. it means nothing about the individual files.
[17:06] <eagles0513875> ahh ok
[17:07] <eagles0513875> ok lets back track lol
[17:08] <jrwren_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_system_permissions
[17:13] <eagles0513875> jrwren_:
[17:13] <eagles0513875> would i need sudo in front of setfacl -m u:jrwren:r-- /var/log/syslog
[17:28] <jrwren_> not in the postrotate section, no
[17:28] <jrwren_> the rotate script already runs as root
[18:57] <mgw> does dpkg-buildpackage automatically run make all?
[19:10] <rbasak> mgw: not really. It runs "debian/rules build". What that does is down to debian/rules.
[19:10] <rbasak> mgw: see: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html#s-debianrules
[20:16] <mgw> rbasak: that's what I thought too, but something seems to be calling "make all" during the build process
[20:22] <rbasak> mgw: that's down to what debian/rules does. Often it uses debhelper, which ends up calling dh_autobuild or something
[20:23] <mgw> yep
[20:23] <mgw> dh build calls dh_autobuild
[20:23] <mgw> which calls make
[20:23] <mgw> so I can just override dh_autobuild
[20:23] <mgw> right?
[20:26] <rbasak> You can define a rule called override_dh_auto_build or something.
[20:26] <rbasak> In there you can choose to call dh_auto_build or something else entirely.
[20:34] <mgw> rbasak: yeah, that works. what about calling dh $@ --without auto_clean?
[20:34] <mgw> (and auto_build)
[20:34] <mgw> man dh seems to indicate you could do that, but it doesn't work
[20:35] <mgw> looks like auto_clean doesn't count as an addon
[20:35] <mgw> dh —list does not include it
[20:42] <rbasak> mgw: we're at the limit of my dh sequencer knowledge, sorry.
[20:43] <rbasak> mgw: AIUI, using override_dh_auto_build is the accepted/recommended way of doing it.
[21:18] <mgw> rbasak: thanks, I read man dh again and saw that, thanks
[21:18] <rbasak> np
[23:56] <mgw> I'm packaging a project. Can one package install multiple daemons, each with their own upstart config?