[00:01] I never really appreciated the joke about LISP standing for Lots of Incredibly Silly Parenthesis until I started watching a lecture about it... http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-001-structure-and-interpretation-of-computer-programs-spring-2005/video-lectures/1a-overview-and-introduction-to-lisp/ [00:01] it really does use a lot of brackets [00:23] lisp is crazy [00:23] fun though [00:23] Forth > LISP === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [05:08] I shouldn't have checked the weather. took a peek when to see when this is meant to be over, instead the 5-day just shows it going from red to purple. [05:10] http://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/dec/24/enigma-codebreaker-alan-turing-royal-pardon [07:04] its horrendous weather here shauno_ [07:04] windy/raining and cold [07:18] same here [07:21] wet & cold I'm used to, but this wind is vicious [07:22] shauno_: now imagine biking through it. [07:23] eh, I walk, it's not much more fun :) [08:25] Morning all [08:34] \o [08:41] morning [09:04] Good morning all; happy Christmas Eve! :-D [09:05] morning JamesTait :) [09:05] MartijnVdS, o/ [09:05] whoa.. 100k homes without power in the south [09:05] http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/dec/24/storm-batters-uk-before-christmas-live-blog [09:06] Yes, I saw Christel was having problems. [09:06] diddledan was on laptop/3g power as well last night [09:08] Apparently there was some flooding almost as far north as us as well, near Leicester. [09:08] good thing I was in London *last week* -- Gatwick seems to be having trouble [09:08] (and guess where I flew to/from) [09:09] Though I only have anecdotal evidence from a slighty tipsy friend about that, so it might just have been a puddle. :-P [09:09] :) [09:11] We're sticking to fallen trees: http://www.maartenbrante.com/detail/kerstboom-leidseplein-omgewaaid [09:12] I lost 5 fence panels last night, roads are flooded all over [09:12] Clear blue skies this morning though [09:12] ...: https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/415247494399139840 [09:12] Have you noticed that the little Streetview peg man on Google Maps is wearing a Santa hat? [09:13] JamesTait: yeah, have you noticed that when you shake your phone when the G+ Photos app is open you can add falling snow to a picture? [09:13] MartijnVdS, does it work with the laptop? :-P [09:13] JamesTait: maybe.. why don't you try? ;) [09:14] Morning msm! === msm is now known as Guest68906 === Guest68906 is now known as msm_ [09:15] hey JamesTait :) [09:15] Hapy Christmas Eve! [09:16] MartijnVdS, on my phone it looks more like an earthquake, as the picture tumbles from landscape to portrait and back. I guess they don't support Ubuntu Touch. ;) [09:16] Happy Christmas Eve :) [09:16] JamesTait: stupid Google ;) [09:16] ikr [09:19] It feels very weird this morning only having 13 unread mails in my Inbox. Something must have broken. :-P [09:58] Good morning peeps :) [09:59] merry everyone [10:00] eve* [10:00] merry everyone eve** [10:00] Sounds like a good time to start drinking then [10:00] lol [10:00] Maybe you've already started [10:02] *huc* [10:02] erm [10:02] *hic* [10:02] \o [10:02] my fingers aren't working right [10:02] diddledan: time to get new ones! [10:06] MartijnVdS, I'm quite attached to these ones though [10:09] That mulled wine is potent stuff, eh diddledan_? ;) [10:09] Don't! [10:09] I'm not as thing as you drink I am [10:13] Morning all! [10:13] Morning popey! :) [10:14] popey: amazed that you left it to the last moment before backing Linux Voice [10:14] Waiting for pay day ☻ [10:15] and saw the notification on my phone as I woke this morning and bought it as an xmas pressie to my self [10:15] Hummmmmm, okay :) [10:16] :D [10:16] You get notification of being paid? [10:16] yeah, pay slip in the post [10:16] no, the notification of the indiegogo finishing [10:17] I have to rely upon the standing order my employer has to pay me. It's rare that they remember to send me pay slips [10:17] Ah [10:17] ours is outsourced [10:18] Hayley is home! No more work for either of use for a few days! [10:20] good morning everyone. [10:23] yo [10:27] morning popey [10:33] SteamWorld Dig - any good? [10:34] tmrw, i get to test my binary watch face on my pebble, :) [10:39] morning all [10:43] 2http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/a-raspberry-pi-build-cluster-for-ubuntu/x/5206923 less than a day to go [10:44] and without the leading 2 http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/a-raspberry-pi-build-cluster-for-ubuntu/x/5206923 less than a day to go [10:48] \o/ [10:49] When do they release the money? [10:54] bigcalm, it's all about the money for you? [10:54] what about the goodwill?! [10:54] and the happiness and joy [10:55] and the peace to all men [10:55] Goodwill doesn't buy equipment for server farms [10:56] this is true [10:56] I've given £75 of goodwill ;) [10:56] :-p [10:56] does that mean you get to name a pi? [10:57] Yep [10:57] Still haven't thought of a name [10:58] I can't think of a funny [10:58] 'localhost' ? ;) [10:58] lol [10:58] onetwosevenohohone [10:58] 'yourmum' === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [10:59] "awesome"? so then it says "package build by awesome" [10:59] or maybe "magic" [10:59] or "little-elves" [10:59] actually, I like little-elves [11:00] coelesing-entropy? [11:00] that's a good one [11:00] package build by coelesing-entropy [11:01] coalescing [11:01] diddledan_: by entropy inversion maybe then [11:01] I knew I spely iy wrong [11:01] diddledan_: good news, there's still time to get yer 75 quid in :p [11:01] heh [11:11] Smooth ;) [11:12] My desk is covered in little nodules of flux. Missed this [11:12] lol [11:12] yey for soldering [11:18] damn you lot, you suckered me into it [11:19] good boy. [11:19] btw - he's on his way: http://www.google.co.uk/santatracker [11:21] ABP blocked the main content, yayu [11:25] gosh, the rain here sounds like someone's hosing the window [11:28] shauno_: horizontal rain? [11:29] I think that's actually a possibility at this point. I'm right by the ocean. and right now, it feels like it [11:29] we've had rain going *upwards* here [11:32] shauno_: That's what we had last night till about 2am [11:32] For all of the storms we've had in the last few days, I'm amazed that we now have bright sunshine and blue skies [11:32] It would go North for a bit and then east, blowing all around [11:33] we're just getting it flat in the face off the Atlantic [11:33] anyone having issues with Skype/MSN this morning [11:33] diplo: only philosophical ones [11:33] Mine takes forever to login and sometimes works and other times I see two contacts [11:33] But can't contact them :/ [11:33] diplo: NSA servers are probably full [11:34] heh === shauno_ is now known as shauno [12:13] what happens to the pdpc hostmasks now that the pdpc is dead? [12:14] ref: shauno's hostname [12:14] mask* [12:14] diddledan_: I stopped my payments a long time ago. Nobody has got around to changing the masks [12:18] yeah, I got an email from paypal to tell me the sub had been cancelled at their end [12:31] https://isitchristmas.com/ [12:35] any girls [12:36] tariqch, try shauno , she's sexy [12:38] or popey [12:39] tariqch, y u no talk? [12:40] I can't read the name twinsenx correctly [12:41] diddledan_: "Twinsen" was the main character of LBA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Big_Adventure [12:41] too many twinsen(s), so i added x. it'd be sound like twin+sen+axe, i guess. [12:41] MartijnVdS: that was a fun site. Did you view the source? [12:41] to my perverted mind it doesn't sound like twin sen axe [12:42] -_- [12:42] i recommend better not miss 'n' sound. ho ho ho. [12:42] bigcalm: yeah, I also opened the dev console :) [12:43] Aye [12:43] https://konklone.com/post/how-to-hack-the-developer-console-to-be-needlessly-interactive 8-) [12:45] oooh, that isitchristmas shows you the flags of everyone visiting and where their mouse is? [12:46] diddledan_: yeah, and clicking/mousewheel do things [12:46] diddledan_: and there's chat in the js console 8-) [12:46] \o/ websockets [12:50] for a single use website, it's crazy [12:50] https://github.com/isitchristmas [12:52] f [12:52] oops [12:52] g [12:52] https://isitchristmas.com/canary.txt [12:54] nice [12:55] there's no copy/paste news item in the signature [12:56] hmm [12:57] cut+paste for 24 december would possibly be fakable : "all over the country people have been using the last shopping day before christmas in their thousands" [12:57] diddledan_: it could be something about the storm [12:57] or maybe "shops overwhelmed with influx of shoppers after 'the storm'" [12:57] :-p [13:20] http://www.google.com/santatracker/#/tracker/dashboard ! === msm is now known as Guest18905 === xnox_ is now known as xnox [14:06] oh dear [14:10] ah..this new bluetooth keyboard for my tablet is lovely [14:10] no alt key for my irssi requirements, otherwise nice [14:14] I have a bluetooth mouse, it's ace. [14:21] struggling to get uk layout working [15:24] * neuro finally remembers to update http://howlonguntilthenextdoctorwho.com/ [15:41] Are my eyes missing something, BBC's headline for this photo http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/71941000/jpg/_71941244_de27-1.jpg says "A helicopter caught this dramatic image of two light aircraft scattered and upturned at the Redhill Aerodrome in Surrey" Which part of upturned means the right way up [15:42] It just looks like they were parked in a dip & the water has flooded the dip [15:48] ok, you actually have to watch a video thats not linked from the original bbc page of a a different part of the aerodrome before you see a fleeting glimpse of an upside down plane === daftykin1 is now known as daftykins [17:18] DJones: :D [18:05] Have a wonderful Christmas and New Year, everyone! [18:06] and you sir [18:07] and all of you too :) [18:07] a happy Yuletide to one and all \o/ [18:18] whoo, vlc + dvb-s = go! [18:26] ooh, Finding Nemo [18:41] hehe [19:12] who likes FREE GAMES? [19:15] directhex: steam? [19:15] yes [19:15] vhere? [19:17] ah, super hexagon is at "-90% - €0,30" atm [19:18] MartijnVdS, in my email inbox! [19:18] oh, just for you then? [19:18] <- might be confused a bit [19:19] i have a spare free game [19:19] i also am not getting the full picture [19:19] directhex: Which game? [19:19] dungeon defenders complete [19:19] Thanks, but I'd never play it anyway. Better give that to someone who will I guess :) [19:19] I have a Super Hexagon if someone wants it. [19:20] babies love hexagons [19:20] anyone with an <18 month old needs super hexagon [19:21] so.. you have it already? :) [19:22] directhex: or do you want it? [19:28] MartijnVdS, i have most games already :p [19:29] directhex: yeah, I noticed in your profile page :) [19:29] just added you btw [20:25] hello [20:27] hi [20:27] \o [20:27] is there a way to see my traffic thorugh my ubuntu server [20:27] arc__: lots of ways [20:27] ok [20:27] arc__: how much detail do you want? do you want it live? [20:27] noob detail not too complex [20:27] arc__: just the total number of bytes? every single stream? [20:27] suprise me [20:28] arc__: well there's "ip -s link", which shows statistics for every network interface: just the numbers of bytes and packets sent and received [20:28] and [20:28] you could try "iptraf" to see individual TCP streams and UDP packets [20:28] or iftop [20:29] i know this may sound daft but is there a web interface one [20:29] with graphs [20:30] well, you could configure something using rrdtool (collectd, cacti, etc.) [20:30] but that's a bit more work, and those tools all have pretty good howtos themselves [20:30] ok [20:31] sorry to ask i am a server noob i installed it for a joke but ......... [20:31] sad days [20:32] arc__: best way to learn -- just dive in [20:32] yeah [20:32] :) [20:33] can u buy portable servers that fit into a backpack ? [20:33] arc__: you might be able to get graphite working, it has prettier graphs [20:33] arc__: you could use the Raspberry pi as one. [20:33] kk [20:34] damm i had the idea of selling laptops as portable servers ;) [20:34] bad buisness plan [20:36] i don't think anyone that has the need for a server would be without better hardware than a laptop ;) [20:36] what thing can u do on ubuntu server ? [20:37] well, what do you WANT to do with it? [20:37] arc__: anything you can do with a computer, really [20:37] web server, email, FTP, plenty of ideas [20:37] oh kk [20:38] should of installed it on my old dual core powerpc mac [20:38] haha powerpc [20:38] arc__: Ubuntu isn't made for ppc anymore [20:38] still got support last time i checked [20:39] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/13.10/release/ [20:39] i wouldn't recommend bothering [20:39] also, you don't want to run a non-LTS release on a server [20:39] why its better than a laptop [20:39] kk [20:39] depends on the laptop :P [20:40] i have heard of doing virtual machines on servers [20:40] you won't be able to do that easily on powerpc [20:40] especially old powerpc [20:41] My netbook is a server. [20:41] I touch its keyboard so rarely, it has a layer of dust on it, and its uptime is about 6 months. [20:41] my desktop serves some stuff to my internal network :) [20:42] I didn't want to have a high-wattage machine left on all the time, the netbook takes about 20 Watts, iirc. [20:44] cool [20:46] so i know u can irc servers do u konw of any good walkthroughs [20:47] also if u create a website and host it you still have to buy a domain right ? [20:47] arc__: nope and nope ;) [20:48] lol :) [20:48] The process of setting up my server and running irssi on it inside a screen/tmux shell was a learning experience for me. [20:48] As for a domain, I use a hostname on a friend's domain, but there are free dynamic DNS providers for home connections. [20:49] all i have done to my server is install webmin, phpmyadmin, and vnc with lxde [20:49] I like to keep it simple and secure. [20:51] so what awesome and cool things that you ca do with a ubuntu server [20:51] you can make fun graphs: http://www.monitorix.org/ [20:52] ok will check it out [20:52] arc__: Be aware that webmin hasn't been supported in Ubuntu, its something thats supposed to cause problems [20:52] !webmin [20:52] webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. [20:52] damm [20:52] Personally, I prefer to administer my machine via the command line. [20:53] Its not something I've used and I don't know what the issues are, but thought it worth mentioning [20:53] for a noob i will take the risk [20:53] I wouldn't use webmin considering it's likely to cause issues. [20:55] how do i unistall it [20:55] I've heard better things about Zentyal if you're going that route [20:55] apt-get uninstall ? [20:56] arc__: check out "man apt-get", it should give you the relevant command [20:56] kk [20:56] most command line commands have a manpage. [20:56] yeah i sort of know :0 [20:57] and sort of not [21:12] bye all and happy holidays [21:13] likewise === liam_ is now known as Guest76255 [23:46] Happy Christmas All :D [23:47] Merry Christmas MooDoo :D [23:48] :)