[05:48] <Kilos> guten morgen 
[06:26] <Kilos> hi Xethron 
[07:03] <Symmetria> sup
[07:03] <Symmetria> interesting, first time in my life I've actually flashed a bios to fix a problem and it fixed it
[07:09] <Kilos> wow
[07:09] <Kilos> yeah it works kiff
[07:09] <Kilos> newer mobos come with the option in bios even
[07:10] <Kilos> on older pcs you need to download and make a bootable stiffy with the new bios
[07:10] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy rynomster 
[07:19] <Symmetria> heh my pc now has so much crap in it it wont start without a thousand watt PSU ;p
[07:19] <Kilos> wow
[07:19] <Symmetria> lol, its the video cards that suck power
[07:19] <Kilos> do like me and put another psu outside
[07:20] <Symmetria> heh I prefer not to run internal cards on a seperate PSU 
[07:20] <Kilos> reason?
[07:20] <Kilos> just looks ugly imo
[07:22] <Symmetria> well the last thing you want is to lose power on a PSU that is driving a PCI card while the other PSU keeps running
[07:22] <Symmetria> shit will get really screwed up if that happens :)
[07:26] <Kilos> then why you overloading that pc so.
[07:26] <Kilos> mobo gonna crash soon
[07:27] <Kilos> rahter use a server bay
[07:27] <Kilos> rather
[07:40] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[07:42] <Vince-0> !
[07:42] <Vince-0> Kilos, ever vigilant 
[07:42] <Vince-0> or is it lurking
[07:43] <Kilos> im the greeter bot
[07:43] <Kilos> did you read what was said at last nights meet
[07:44] <Kilos> dbnlug has some stuff to share
[07:45] <Vince-0> ya there's always talk
[07:45] <Symmetria> heh I need to start trying to mine bitcoins
[07:46] <Symmetria> now that I got sufficient offload gpu capacity
[07:46] <Vince-0> eventually the electricity bill isn't worth the return
[07:48] <Symmetria> lol I dont actually wanna put a power meter on my machine
[07:48] <Symmetria> I fear to think how much its drawing with those video cards in it
[08:07] <Kilos> hi aquarat 
[08:30] <charl> good morning
[08:30] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[08:30]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[08:34] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[08:35] <charl> Maaz: thanks
[08:35] <Maaz> charl: No problem
[08:38] <Kilos> hi charl 
[09:39] <Symmetria> heh this ethernet over power stuff is so awesome
[09:46] <charl> Symmetria: why?
[09:48] <Symmetria> charl heh, 500meg from one side of the house to the other
[09:48] <Symmetria> by plugging in 2 wall sockets
[09:48] <Symmetria> saves a lot of effort, time and money in cabling
[09:49] <Symmetria> heh, power over ethernet is something we've all become used to, ethernet over power though is something I'd heard of, but never had a chance to test
[09:49] <Symmetria> now that I have tested it, I love it :P
[09:49] <Symmetria> anyone know if any of the ubuntu live cds have built in nvidia drivers in them?
[09:50] <Symmetria> cause I really wanna see if linux can handle this setup now that Ive changed it slightly, cause it sure as hell didnt like the old setup
[09:55] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: sorry, morning
[09:55] <ThatGraemeGuy> and everyone else
[09:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> and bye bye! closing up shop early
[09:56] <Kilos> np
[09:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> enjoy xmas / day off / whatever it means to each of you :-)
[09:57] <Symmetria> ugh no one seems to know if there is an ubuntu live cd with nvidia drivers :(
[09:57] <Kilos> ty same there
[10:26] <charl> Symmetria: i don't have any nvidia cards, i always go for intel hd, so i wouldn't know either
[10:27] <charl> Symmetria: friends of mine use ethernet over power in their house, they also use IPTV (FTTH)
[10:28] <charl> Symmetria: when somebody plugs in a charger that creates interference, the tv starts picking up problems
[10:29] <charl> the video feed starts hanging every few seconds
[10:35] <Kilos> nouveau drivers work some
[10:36] <Kilos> but to get the card going well you need the correct driver
[10:37] <Kilos> also there is nvidia-current in the repos
[10:37] <Kilos> i think it was current
[10:37] <Symmetria> will get a live cd and play
[10:38] <Kilos> yeah its nvidia-current
[10:38] <Symmetria> hrm, can I just apt-get install that on a live cd, suppose I should be able to
[10:38] <Kilos> yes
[10:39] <Kilos> you can also install the driver for the card from the live cd but you lose it when you remove the cd and reboot
[10:39] <Kilos> what ubuntu you wanna try Symmetria 
[10:40] <Kilos> the newer ones are dvd size 1.1g
[10:41] <Kilos> what is ethernet over power?
[10:41] <Symmetria> I'll go download one and stick it on a bootable usb stick or something so whatever size 
[10:41] <Kilos> ya thats fine. go with 13.10
[10:42] <Symmetria> kilos heh, there are these nifty adapters you plug into the wall, and you plug an ethernet cable into them, then you plug a corresponding unit into another wall and it uses the house power grid as if it were virtual ethernet cables
[10:42] <Kilos> wow
[10:42] <Symmetria> so you can plug 2 adapters in on opposite sides of the house and have ethernet over power 
[10:42] <Kilos> clever that. saves cabling
[10:43] <Kilos> speed. it must surely be slower than cat5 cabling
[10:43] <Symmetria> kilos about half a gigabit through the power at my house
[10:43] <Kilos> wow thats good
[12:28] <Kilos> hi SabreWolfy 
[12:28] <Kilos> wb
[12:30] <SabreWolfy> Hiya.
[13:07] <charl> hi rynomster 
[13:07] <charl> hi SabreWolfy 
[13:27] <SabreWolfy> Hi
[13:28] <SabreWolfy> Hi charl 
[14:49] <Kilos> Maaz, forecast pretoria
[14:49] <Maaz> Kilos: Monday: Partly Cloudy. High: 32° C., Monday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 19° C., Tuesday: Chance of a Thunderstorm. High: 28° C., Tuesday Night: Thunderstorm. Low: 18° C., Wednesday: Thunderstorm. High: 26° C., Wednesday Night: Mostly Cloudy. Low: 17° C., Thursday: Chance of a Thunderstorm. High: 28° C., Thursday Night: Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low:
[14:49] <Maaz> 18° C., Friday: Chance of a Thunderstorm. High: 28° C., Friday Night: Chance of a Thunde…
[14:51] <Kilos> charl, can you go see this and tell me the size after?
[14:51] <Kilos> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tMMRUWF7nA
[14:52] <Kilos> something about usb booting old pcs
[14:52] <SabreWolfy> Maaz, forecast rustenberg
[14:52] <Maaz> SabreWolfy: City not found
[14:53] <SabreWolfy> Maaz, forecast rustenburg
[14:53] <Maaz> SabreWolfy: Monday: Partly Cloudy. High: 30° C., Monday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 19° C., Tuesday: Chance of a Thunderstorm. High: 28° C., Tuesday Night: Thunderstorm. Low: 19° C., Wednesday: Thunderstorm. High: 24° C., Wednesday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 16° C., Thursday: Chance of a Thunderstorm. High: 28° C., Thursday Night: Chance of a Thunderstorm.
[14:53] <Maaz> Low: 17° C., Friday: Chance of a Thunderstorm. High: 27° C., Friday Night: Chance of a T…
[14:54] <Kilos> who's  in rustenburg SabreWolfy ?
[14:54] <Kilos> my son is there
[14:56] <Kilos> and what reminded you yesterday to come on here again?
[14:56] <Kilos> i forgot to ask eyesonly too
[14:57] <SabreWolfy> Kilos
[14:57] <SabreWolfy> Kilos: I'm near Rustenburg and the Twitter feed reminded me
[14:58] <SabreWolfy> What about eyesonly? He also made a surprise appearance? 
[14:58] <Kilos> ya last night
[14:59] <Kilos> hasnt been here for 3 years
[14:59] <Kilos> or was that you?
[14:59]  * Kilos scrolls back
[14:59] <SabreWolfy> Ha! And then I got that three year old message! 
[14:59] <SabreWolfy> Oh.  That was me :-)
[15:00] <Kilos> ai! i was on kde last night
[15:00] <Kilos> haha
[15:00] <Kilos> near rustenburg where?
[15:02] <Kilos> but eyesonly also was missing for a long time. so at least the tweet place works at times
[15:03] <Kilos> had to do a choqok install to be able to tweet
[15:12] <SabreWolfy> Kilos: 
[15:12] <Kilos> ya?
[15:12] <SabreWolfy> Kilos: sorry learning this AndChat client. You send out the Tweets?
[15:13] <Kilos> yes
[15:13] <Kilos> which one do you follow?
[15:13] <Kilos> ubuntuza and sharpeys
[15:13] <Kilos> i dont tweet much
[15:14] <Kilos> supposed to be inetpro 's job but he is getting old
[15:14] <SabreWolfy> I follow the one for this channel
[15:14] <Kilos> cool
[15:15] <Kilos> you using andchat from a cell hey?
[15:15] <Kilos> you okes and your modern toys
[15:17] <SabreWolfy> Haha! Yeah on my S3.
[16:44] <SabreWolfy> What did eyesonly mention re the new item on the next agenda?
[17:18] <Kilos> SabreWolfy, lemme reboot to kde and scroll back
[17:18] <Kilos> i forget who said what
[17:18] <SabreWolfy> Oh ok. No worries.
[17:19] <SabreWolfy> It will be in the online log anyway. I'll look there. 
[17:19] <Kilos> not a prob. whole day of unity, kde can be like pudding after a good meal
[17:24]  * Kilos scrolls back
[17:25] <Kilos> aw i havent set konversation to keep lotsa logs
[17:29] <Kilos> no superfly all day. sigh
[17:29] <Kilos> hi psychicist 
[17:30] <Kilos> and Private_User also as well tooo
[17:37] <theblazehen> Hi. Am I late?
[17:37] <Private_User> hi Kilos
[17:37] <Kilos> hi theblazehen late for what?
[17:38] <theblazehen> early* || the monthly meet || hey Private_User 
[17:38] <Kilos> for last nights meeting hahaha
[17:38] <theblazehen> Oh
[17:38] <theblazehen> oh ok
[17:38] <Kilos> you are a bit late
[17:38] <Kilos> rofl
[17:38] <theblazehen> lol, saw tuesday in title, almost thought early...
[17:38] <Private_User> hi theblazehen
[17:38] <theblazehen> :(
[17:38] <Kilos> t6hats for next meet
[17:39] <theblazehen> yeah, I see now
[17:39] <theblazehen> oh it's tuesday today...
[17:39] <Kilos> mondays became hard for some of our favourite favourites so we changed it last night to tues the 4th week of each month
[17:40] <theblazehen> ah ok :)
[17:40] <Kilos> but you can read the logs and see what you missed
[17:40] <Kilos> some new stuff coming up at next meet
[17:42] <theblazehen> ah nice :)
[17:42] <theblazehen> Stuff like?
[17:45] <Kilos> whew SabreWolfy did you read logs about what eyesonly said
[17:45] <Kilos> they were chatting about mobiles i think
[17:46] <SabreWolfy> Kilos: going to... standby
[17:46] <Kilos> ty
[17:49] <SabreWolfy> Kilos: irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/12/23/%23ubuntu-za.html
[17:49] <SabreWolfy> Times are GMT
[17:49] <Kilos> ty
[17:50] <Kilos> i can never find logs
[17:51] <SabreWolfy> Kilos: see 19:32 in that log
[17:51] <Kilos> but at least i dont get lost for 3 years and 17 days
[17:51] <Kilos> hehe
[17:52] <theblazehen> ty
[17:52] <SabreWolfy> :-)
[17:54] <Kilos> i  <3 #ubuntu-za. my home from home
[17:55] <Kilos> this channel and its peeps pulled me outa the format reinstall rut with win
[17:55] <Kilos> ne inetpro 
[17:56] <Kilos> oh my i see now logs show in the topic bar
[18:08] <theblazehen> Any of you run a solarized colour scheme?
[18:14] <Kilos> what is that theblazehen ?
[18:15] <SabreWolfy> theblazehen: yeah in emacs
[18:15] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 !
[18:15] <theblazehen> Colour scheme which was designed to be easy to look at or something. Either way it doesen't stress my eyes
[18:15] <theblazehen> hey Vince-0 
[18:15] <Vince-0> !
[18:16] <theblazehen> SabreWolfy, nice. I use it EVERYWHERE!
[18:16] <theblazehen> Kilos, ethanschoonover.com/solarized
[18:17] <theblazehen> brb
[18:20] <charl> hi all
[18:20] <charl> hi theblazehen 
[18:20] <charl> Kilos: what's that about?
[18:20] <theblazehen> hey ChanServ 
[18:20] <charl> lol
[18:20] <Kilos> what charl ?
[18:20] <theblazehen> charl*
[18:20] <theblazehen> lol
[18:20] <Kilos> im on another drive
[18:20] <charl> you asked me a question earlier
[18:20] <charl> something about a size with a youtube video
[18:21] <Kilos> what question
[18:21] <charl> 15:51 < Kilos> charl, can you go see this and tell me the size after?
[18:21] <Kilos> ok that link is a video about booting usb ubuntu on old pcs
[18:22] <Kilos> remember old pcs didnt have usb boot option
[18:22] <Kilos> i dunno what the vid shows
[18:22] <theblazehen> Kilos, did you try plop?
[18:22] <Kilos> ya
[18:22] <charl> it's a 27 min twit video
[18:22] <charl> from a little more than a year ago
[18:22] <Kilos> i got plop here somewhere
[18:23] <charl> "Know How... 5: Resurrect an old PC with Linux "
[18:23] <Kilos> twit video ?
[18:23] <charl> http://twit.tv/
[18:23] <Kilos> oh ty. i was mailed the link
[18:24] <charl> they said something about unetbootin
[18:25] <Kilos> ya but thats no good if the pc dont boot from usb
[18:25] <Kilos> anyway i know how to put linux on old pc
[18:25] <Kilos> had tinycorelinux on p3
[18:25] <theblazehen> http://imgur.com/FreDVYm screenshot :)
[18:26] <Kilos> eek black screen
[18:27] <charl> ooh that's ugly
[18:27] <charl> those colours
[18:28] <charl> what window manager is that
[18:28] <charl> looks like tiling
[18:29] <SabreWolfy> theblazehen: yeah solarized is awesome. Yeah, which WM you on?
[18:42] <superfly> theblazehen: I use KDE with Oxygen and the Obsidian Coast theme, it's nicer than the Solarized colour scheme
[19:27] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:38] <theblazehen> charl, yep, tilng :D awesomewm
[19:38] <theblazehen> I thought it looked good :(
[19:39] <theblazehen> superfly, nice
[20:03] <charl> ah, awesome
[20:03] <charl> i use i3
[20:11] <theblazehen> charl, tried it a bit, never got into it. Would you recommend it?
[20:14] <charl> well, i use it :) but i guess it depends on what you're looking for
[20:16] <theblazehen> I hear it supports splitting panes, like in tmux? Have you used that feature?
[20:21] <charl> it has powerful window layout options but i'm not familiar with splitting of panes
[20:21] <theblazehen> ah, kk, ty