[07:14] <cem_> hi
[07:15] <cfhowlett> cem_, greetings
[07:15] <cem_> how r u?
[07:15] <cfhowlett> can
[07:15] <cfhowlett> can't complain
[07:15] <cem_> :D
[07:15] <cem_> thank you very much
[07:15] <cfhowlett> ? for?
[07:15] <cem_> u r standing there when i need u
[07:15] <cfhowlett> LOL.  okay
[07:16] <cem_> i need a small help if u r in ur convenience
[07:16] <cfhowlett> ask away
[07:16] <cem_> i wanna add skype and evolution to system tray
[07:16] <cem_> how can i?
[07:16] <cem_> i cant find any settings for gnome sytemtry
[07:17] <cfhowlett> panel > add new items
[07:18] <cem_> :(
[07:18] <cem_> i cant find panel
[07:18] <cfhowlett> cem_, gnome?  on ubuntu studio?
[07:18] <cem_> nope just ubuntu
[07:18] <cem_> :D
[07:19] <cem_> i know its studio part but other channel they are busy
[07:19] <cfhowlett> go to your panel at the bottom and right click ...
[07:19] <cem_> im using cairo dock at bottom, i wanna add top bar right side items
[07:20] <cem_> and if i click right, nothing happens
[07:21] <cfhowlett> cem_, ah, CAIRO dock ... different animal.  I don't use so I can't help much.
[07:21] <cem_> its ok
[07:22] <cem_> thanx for typing me
[07:22] <cem_> i couldt install gnome on ubuntu stuido btw
[07:22] <cfhowlett> cem_, really?  surprising
[07:23] <cem_> i will make ubuntu 13.10 as my studio
[07:23] <cfhowlett> cem_, only get 9 months support with that ...
[07:23] <cfhowlett> 12.04 is Long Term Support = 5 years ... same with 14.04
[07:24] <cem_> cuz i installed it from software center as u told me but i saw strange blue desktop like windows 3.11
[07:24] <cfhowlett> cem_, so it DID install then ...
[07:25] <cem_> yep but twas not like standart ubuntu desktop
[07:25] <cem_> so i install ubuntu desktop and install musescore ardour ...
[07:25] <cfhowlett> cem_, um , right?  standard ubuntu desktop is unity.  ubuntustudio does not use unity since it's on xubuntu
[07:25] <cem_> so im not in gnome?
[07:26] <cfhowlett> cem_, you did way too much work then.  neither require gnome
[07:26] <cfhowlett> cem_, I don't know exactly what you've done, merely stating that gnome isn't required.  why did you think you needed it?
[07:27] <cem_> cuz i just start with ubuntu 13.10 t was hillarius i tried some music applications they are good actually musescore just like sibelius
[07:27] <cem_> then i decide move my whole system to ubuntu
[07:28] <cem_> then i saw ubuntu made ubuntu studio for musicians i thought, yep all the softwares were ready on it but i liked first standart ubuntu
[07:29] <cfhowlett> cem_, maybe it's time you made some choices.  ubuntustudio selected xubuntu as that environment requires fewer system resources than vanilla ubuntu.  technically you can run ubuntustudio in unity, but you will probably notice performance hit unless your system is seriously amped up.
[07:29] <cem_> n want it back then i format again and install standart ubuntu
[07:29] <cem_> hmm
[07:30] <cfhowlett> cem_,  ah, well there it then.  stay with unity if you wish.  but note that vanilla ubuntu doesn't include the lowlatency kernel.  if you're making music, you're likely to see xruns (lags)
[07:30] <cem_> i installed low latency kernel on it too
[07:30] <cem_> 3.11.0-14-lowlatency
[07:30] <cfhowlett> cem_, try this.  install xfce4 , logout, switch to xubuntu session and login.  that way you can see for yourself.
[07:31] <cem_> if u say this its true im believe in u
[07:32] <cfhowlett> cem_, costs you nothing to test the waters.  besides, the wallpapers and blue cool ubuntustudio look are way cool.
[07:33] <cfhowlett> http://spreadubuntu.org/en/material/unusual/beautiful-ubuntu-ray-traced-wallpapers
[07:34] <cem_> i tried to custimize xfce on ubuntustudio, i thought its dark and dull for me
[07:35] <cfhowlett> cem_, definitely check out 14.04 - they're trying to enable a number of desktop environments.
[07:35] <cem_> wall papers are not problem i can change, i think all i need is cairo desktop and the bar at top
[07:35] <cfhowlett> cem_, use what works for you.
[07:35] <cem_> and i liked font styles colours
[07:36] <cfhowlett> cem_, fair enough.  so have you installed all of ubuntustudio or just ardour musescore?
[07:37] <cem_> w/e so if i make some records on unity, even if i have low latency kernel, my desktop system will use enormous amount system resorses? an i will get bad results on recodings?
[07:37] <cem_> just installed ardour and musescore and some effects like guitarix guitarrag
[07:39] <cem_> if its possible, and reasonable, and if its exist ubuntu studio effect pack, i wanna downlaod cuz i cant find all effects plugins one by one
[07:39] <cfhowlett> cem_, sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-recording will grab all the audio recording packages.  in fact, run apt-cache ubuntustudio for the list of packages
[07:39] <cem_> now i got it thanx :D
[07:40] <cem_> but im asking u again, will i get bad results on my recodings?
[07:40] <cem_> with the desktop im using?
[07:42] <cfhowlett> cem_, kernel should help but ardour will show the xruns.  if it gets excessive, consider using the lighter desktop.  lxde or xfce
[07:43] <cfhowlett> cem_, of course this also depends to large extent on your setup: external interface, pre-amps, all that stuff.
[07:43] <cem_> 3g ram, focusrite scarlett 8i6 conroe 2.13
[07:44] <cfhowlett> cem_, not familiar but again, test and see.  ardour/jack will allow you to monitor xruns
[07:45] <cem_> on win, i have no problem, i dont think i will have latency problem on linux? only bad thing on linux is, my hdd dying when im playing dota on steam  :D
[07:45] <cem_> ok its early at morning here  i will try
[07:45] <cfhowlett> ow.  painful
[07:46] <cem_> but everyhing is beautiful on linux  really like it
[07:46] <cfhowlett> :)
[07:48] <cem_> thanx for everything i will come back sooner or later :D i missed mirc days its like 15 years ago nostalgia :D
[07:48] <cfhowlett> some things never change
[07:48] <cem_> yep i still smoking
[09:01] <Dermhye> Hello
[09:02] <cfhowlett> Dermhye, what's the word?
[09:02] <Dermhye> I have a troubling dilemma here... Coming from Windows background and like a more organised system like windows.
[09:03] <cfhowlett> Dermhye, eh? you say you were born knowing windows and didn't have to learn anything to get comfortable with it?
[09:04] <Dermhye> My preference software on this package is Blender. After installing Ubuntu Studio, I discovered it has an old version of Blender
[09:04] <cfhowlett> Dermhye, 12.04 right?
[09:04] <Dermhye> lol... well learning to stay organised in windows was quiete easy...
[09:04] <Dermhye> No... 13.10
[09:04] <cfhowlett> Dermhye, new blender is not in the repo.   get it from the site and install manually.
[09:04] <cfhowlett> Dermhye, again: learning curve ...
[09:05] <Dermhye> I downloaded the latest version from Blender from their website already... I followed the steps from this page (http://askubuntu.com/questions/110821/how-to-install-blender-from-the-official-website)
[09:06] <Dermhye> about learning... I want to learn something new that's why I am considering it to use Ubuntu... Enjoying it slightly yet...
[09:06] <Dermhye> Only have a problem with the coding things...
[09:06] <cfhowlett> Dermhye, you're a developer/coder?
[09:07] <Dermhye> Back to my issue... I can run the program from the location it is stored. But I wan to add it to my application list
[09:07] <Dermhye> I am just a computer user... Dont code at all
[09:08] <Dermhye> How do I do that? Possibly make it appear on the list as it was originally before I removed the old blender
[09:08] <Dermhye> Can you help?
[09:09] <cfhowlett> Dermhye, if the old blender entry is still in place, just edit it
[09:09] <Dermhye> oh... by the way... thanks for yesterday... you helped me download the plugins for playing videos
[09:09] <cfhowlett> Dermhye, no worriess
[09:09] <Dermhye> I already deleted that.
[09:10] <cfhowlett> Dermhye, and the new blender did not create an icon/launcher?  tsk.
[09:10] <Dermhye> Should I install the old version again?
[09:10] <cfhowlett> Dermhye, nope.
[09:10] <cfhowlett> just need to copy the launcher from  blender to the preferred location.
[09:11] <cfhowlett> try this in a terminal: whereis blender
[09:11] <Dermhye> no... I just extracted it according to that page and saved the folder to usr/lib
[09:11] <Dermhye> ok. let me try
[09:12] <Dermhye> This is the returned line I got: blender: /usr/lib/blender /usr/share/blender
[09:13] <cfhowlett> I looked in /usr/bin/blender   the launcher is there.
[09:14] <cfhowlett> Dermhye, how do you start blender now?
[09:15] <Dermhye> I saved the launcher to desktop and start from there.
[09:16] <Dermhye> but I want to add it to application list. One of the reasons is for me to open files directly by clicking on them
[09:16] <cfhowlett> Dermhye, halfway home.  just need to add the launcher either to xfce menu or launch bar
[09:17] <cfhowlett> Dermhye, right click on the file, properties, open with ...
[09:17] <Dermhye> ok... how do I do that?
[09:19] <Dermhye> Blender is not on the list
[09:22] <cfhowlett> open with    other application    use custom command   (path to blender here!)
[09:22] <Dermhye> ok
[09:23] <cfhowlett> you'll need the blender launcher properties in that path space ...
[09:29] <Dermhye> Thanks
[09:29] <Dermhye> It worked.
[09:30] <cfhowlett> Dermhye, it's all in the wrist
[09:30] <Dermhye> I still want it on my application list. how do I do that...
[09:30] <cfhowlett> Dermhye, I don't know
[09:30] <cfhowlett> sorry
[09:32] <Dermhye> no probs. thanks a lot.
[09:32] <Dermhye> I really appreciate your support
[09:33] <cfhowlett> Dermhye, have fun, be safe
[09:33] <cfhowlett> also the #xubuntu channel can help with your application list
[09:33] <Dermhye> is there any document that tells about understanding Ubuntu's coding in the terminal emulator
[09:33] <Dermhye> I will like to know some basic things
[09:34] <Dermhye> alright. I am so grateful. I will check there soon
[09:34] <Dermhye> you have been really helpful
[09:35] <Dermhye> I like this community
[15:33] <Dermhye> Hi, I plugged in my headset and unplugged immediately only to discover the computer has been muted. How do I unmute please
[15:34] <cfhowlett> Dermhye, left click on the speaker icon ...
[15:34] <Dermhye> Its just showing a white short bar just below it.
[15:35] <cfhowlett> !paste
[15:37] <cfhowlett> Dermhye, http://imagebin.org/283645
[15:44] <Dermhye> Mine is now showing that detailed option on the sound when I left click it.
[15:45] <Dermhye> I wish I could get my screen shot and show you
[17:03] <Dermhye> Hello
[17:03] <Dermhye> I am back with my wahala
[17:03] <Dermhye> How can I increase the volume of my pc
[17:13] <holstein> Dermhye: volume control?
[17:13] <holstein> !info pavucontrol
[17:13] <holstein> i use that, unless im using JACK, then i use the hardware controls
[17:13] <holstein> i would need more information.. "for the PC" could depend on many applications
[17:16] <Dermhye> I can see the speaker symbol on the taskbar, but when I click, I dont get anything. what can I do to activate it as my volume is mute now
[17:17] <holstein> Dermhye: depends really on what you did to mute it.. and what youa re comfortable with
[17:17] <holstein> i would try pavucontrol
[17:17] <holstein> and also, in a terminal, alsamixer can be handy.. this is assuming you are *not* using JACK
[17:19] <Dermhye> I plugged in my headset and a volume bar showed up. I removed it immediately to change it and the was muted instantly. I dont know how to unmute
[17:20] <holstein> Dermhye: have you tried "pavucontrol" ?
[17:20] <holstein> Dermhye: if not, try it, right now.. and report if its not working foryou
[17:20] <holstein> its quite extensive in its configuration
[17:20] <Dermhye> I dont know about pavucontrol... am i to type that in the terminal
[17:21] <holstein> Dermhye: or, since its likely you just switched to that device that you quickly plugged and removed, you could try just restarting the PC
[17:21] <holstein> !info pavucontrol | Dermhye
[17:21] <Dermhye> I have restarted like 4 times now
[17:22] <holstein> Dermhye: you can also use alsamixer to select the audio device
[17:26] <Dermhye> @ubottu, am I to type those in the terminal
[17:26] <holstein> Dermhye: ubottu is a bot.. i had it linkd the name of the application for you
[17:27] <holstein> Dermhye: you are to try and run pavucontrol and see if it meets your needs by allowing you to select the audio device you want to use
[17:27] <Dermhye> ok
[17:27] <holstein> Dermhye: you can also use "alsamixer" in the terminal
[17:28] <holstein> Dermhye: you will be able to set the default device that alsa is using
[17:29] <Dermhye> i used pavucontrol
[17:29] <Dermhye> its working now.
[17:29] <holstein> Dermhye: contratulations
[17:30] <Dermhye> this coding thing is discouraging me from the interest i have in linux
[17:30] <Dermhye> but thanks
[17:30] <holstein> Dermhye: what "coding"?
[17:31] <holstein> Dermhye: what i read above is, you plugged a device in that doenst explicitly offer linux support.. linux tried to use it, and changed the default audio device
[17:31] <Dermhye> having to type in the terminal... One must have the idea of what language or thing to write
[17:31] <holstein> Dermhye: that would be likely to happen with *any* OS
[17:31] <holstein> Dermhye: you dont *have* to launch pavucontrol from the terminal
[17:31] <Dermhye> amazing now, I am using the headset
[17:31] <holstein> Dermhye: you can click on anything from the menu item created, to any custom launcher you are welcome to and encouraged to create
[17:31] <Dermhye> and its working
[17:32] <holstein> Dermhye: its not "coding" to fix something by launching an application
[17:32] <Dermhye> ok.... you have been of great help... appreciate so much
[17:32] <holstein> Dermhye: you could have that very same issue with plugging that device into a mac
[17:32] <holstein> Dermhye: or, an apple device into a windows PC
[17:33] <Dermhye> actually
[17:35] <holstein> Dermhye: why would i suggest starting things from the terminal? its a way to have a common batch of commands
[17:35] <holstein> Dermhye: in linux, *everything* is open, and easy to customize and change.. if i ask you to type something in the terminal, i know that that wil work *exactly* as it works on my linux
[17:35] <Dermhye> I actually dont know anything about Ubuntu other than knowing its linux and I have no idea about the use of linux
[17:36] <holstein> Dermhye: or, at least, much more closely to the same. and i dont have to wonder if you are running XFCE, or what menu item to point you to
[17:36] <holstein> Dermhye: i can just say "copy this in the terminal".. and that is *not* coding
[17:36] <holstein> Dermhye: its a way to help you troubleshoot the issue you had by trying to do something advanced that could have been problematic on *any* operating system
[17:37] <Dermhye> alright. I am sure i will catch up soon.
[17:37] <holstein> Dermhye: or, you can purchase devices that support linux.. and they will "just work".. and you wont have to "catch up"
[17:39] <Dermhye> I dont think I can get Linux support devices around here.
[17:40] <Dermhye> Let me ask, why cant I get a response from left clicking the volume icon on the taskbar
[17:41] <holstein> Dermhye: nothing about linux is preventing anyone from supporting it
[17:41] <holstein> Dermhye: im not sure what you are clicking, or why.. but if i wanted to control an audio device, without JACK, i would use pavucontrol
[17:41] <holstein> Dermhye: its in the menu as "pulse audio volume control" IIRC
[17:42] <Dermhye> hwo do I get Jack
[17:43] <holstein> Dermhye: you dont need it
[17:43] <holstein> Dermhye: it shipps with ubuntustudio anyway
[17:43] <Dermhye> ok
[17:43] <holstein> Dermhye: you can read..
[17:43] <holstein> !proaudio
[17:44] <Dermhye> but i need a smarter way to access volume control
[17:45] <holstein> Dermhye: my icon works.. and you might consider using something like stock xubuntu or main ubuntu
[17:45] <holstein> Dermhye: ubuntustudio could have tweaks that are not catering to "smarter ways to control volume"
[17:48] <SonikkuAmerica> Dermhye: That being said, there's a bit coming to UStudio 14.04, including a signed -lowlatency image, so stick around... :)
[17:50] <holstein> sure.. but, you might not need it
[17:57] <Dermhye> holstein, from the link you sent about pro audio intro, what do they mean by Many cards?
[18:03] <holstein> Dermhye: where it says "many cards are muted by default"?
[18:03] <holstein> Dermhye: that means that, as in the cards, audio devices, many (implying a lot of them) will be muted by default.. meaning, you start the machine, and the audio is muted
[18:03] <Dermhye> yes please
[18:04] <Dermhye> ok.
[18:04] <Dermhye> Or Do I re install my  ubuntu version cos I can remember the control worked at the start
[18:05] <holstein> Dermhye: i would install xubuntu or main ubuntu.. or lubuntu.. if a desktop operating system is more what you are looking for
[18:05] <holstein> otherwise, im sure its something you can sort out, with patience
[18:05] <holstein> Dermhye: imagine how long you used the last operating system you were comfortable on before adding audio devices, or reparing any volume controls
[18:06] <holstein> Dermhye: you can try as another user ,such as the guest account.. you can try adding another panel volume manager
[18:06] <holstein> Dermhye: you can try taking a screenshot to better convey what the issue is