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Noskcajthanks00:15
elfyknome: if you get chance to can you speak to someone - if anyone is about - iso tracker is all fubar - again - showing 2 lots of images :(07:40
knomehmm07:40
knomei'll look at that07:40
knomei should have all keys to that07:41
elfyok07:41
knomehmm, yeah, two set of dailies07:41
elfyyep - same the other day - I set one as not reportable07:42
elfydidn't get chance last night07:42
elfyand it looks like we STILL have this user session issue with the image 07:43
knomeyep07:43
knomeslow moving people around christmas07:43
* knome shrugs07:44
elfymmm07:44
knomei just removed them from the list07:44
knomeif that seems to happen again and again, let's try to catch stgraber after christmas07:45
elfyanyway - after xmas I hope we'll get a bit more proactive about things 07:45
knomeyep, i'm looking at that kind of process from my side at least07:45
elfyknome: which list - got a link, wonder if it's just you that has key to the cupboard 07:45
knomewhen everything starts to be in place and there's nothing to organize coming towards us07:45
knomehttp://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/308/builds07:45
knomejust selected the ISOs and picked "delete from the list" as status and hit update07:46
elfyoic = yea I did that I think the other day - if it's that simple then I can do that :)07:46
knomeyep, i didn't come up with a better solution07:46
elfykiss suits me :D07:47
knomethere didn't seem to be any switch to do that any other way07:47
knomeyep ;)07:47
elfyI'll keep a weather eye on it and ping stgraber after xmas07:48
elfybecause I reckon on seeing the same tomorrow etc07:48
knomecheers, keep me pinged about it as well, i have other unfinished business with him..07:48
elfyokey doke07:48
knome(related to the tracker as well)07:48
Unit193elfy: I'll be pretty quick to know if something gets merged or committed to fix that session dealio, I'll ping you if I see it.07:55
elfyok - thanks - it'll be a race between you telling me or me seeing it in an e-mail then :p07:56
Unit193Ah, wasn't sure you were subscribed since you asked about it "yesterday"07:57
elfyyep - subscribed :) but I was asking more to see if there was any new information that wasn't there07:58
elfythought I'd subscribed x-bugs - have now :)07:59
Unit193I poked in #ubuntustudio-devel about it, just in case they missed the issue. :P08:00
Unit193Bug 1263188 is a direct dupe, bug 1259662 is what happens if you're in the Xfce session (so, expected), bug 1261660 is weird and "hidden" if the other one is fixed (but not a dupe)08:12
ubottubug 1263188 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "At first login, default session is xfce instead of xubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/126318808:12
ubottubug 1259662 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Menus include settings applications" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125966208:12
ubottubug 1261660 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "User session fails to accept settings" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/126166008:12
elfyUnit193: desc changed on last one - forgot to do that  previously, only found that with 32bit08:14
Unit193I saw that one as well, ended up creating the needed file to make it all well.08:15
elfywant to try to find the time to do a real clean install at some point this week08:18
elfyUnit193: I installed your ppa the other day - which I though got the nice tabwin - apparently not08:19
elfyassuming thats the alt-tab thing08:19
Unit193elfy: I hope the right PPA.  ppa:unit193/xfce has it, for best results use the shimmerppa too, IIRC.08:20
NoskcajHow do you add the second sound indicator to the panel? I added it, and it's broken, but forget how to reproduce it.08:23
elfyUnit193: yea - was that one 08:25
Unit193elfy: apt-cache policy xfwm408:26
elfyInstalled: 4.11.0-0ubuntu1~ppa0.13.10.208:26
Unit1934.11.0~0.tabwin.git20131212.edf7ad4-1  You have the xfce 4.12 PPA, then.08:27
elfyyea think so08:27
elfyso some fighting amonst themsleves then lol08:27
Unit193I could change that to 4.11.0+tabwin if need be. ;P08:29
elfy:)08:29
elfywell I'm not too worried - though the tabwin I saw looked a whole lot nicer :)08:30
elfyoff to work now 08:30
elfyNoskcaj: not sure what you mean I'm afraid - I promise I wasn't ignoring you 08:30
Unit193elfy: sudo apt-get install xfwm4=4.11.0~0.tabwin.git20131212.edf7ad4-1~13.10.1  will do it. :D08:31
elfyVersion ‘4.11.0~0.tabwin.git20131212.edf7ad4-1~13.10.1’ for ‘xfwm4’ was not found08:32
elfyrun out of time now - cya later :)08:32
Unit193(You'll have to change the version number on the end for trusty, if you're on it.)  Chau.08:33
elfyk - will look later08:37
Noskcajelfy, I forget how i enabled it, but we have a second sound indicator which gives a link to a broken version of settings-manager which it called sound preferences08:37
elfyali1234: just prved this xchat thing - installed and used hexchat - had tv plugged in - turned tv off - back to the 1990's for that 08:37
Unit193elfy: Don't have to force it now.10:29
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elfyUnit193: looks better :)14:15
brainwashwhat needs to be done to release the patched version of xfce4-power-manager (full systemd support) for trusty and also for saucy?14:37
brainwashbug 122202114:37
ubottubug 1222021 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "xfce4-power-manager does not inhibit systemd from handling buttons and lid events" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122202114:37
elfyis it in the sponsor queue? 14:37
pmjdebruijnon that topic, I'd like to point out: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10566 (includes trivial patch)14:38
ubottubugzilla.xfce.org bug 10566 in General "Display Power Percentage" [Enhancement,New]14:38
brainwashwe don't have a SRU report yet14:38
elfyoh - didn't read saucy14:38
brainwashtrusty and saucy14:38
brainwashwell, first trusty :D14:38
elfyyea - my eyes blank when I seen saucy :p14:39
elfyas far as trusty - afaik we are trying to get things on the sponsor queue 14:39
brainwashNoskcaj might need to solve a packaging issue first14:39
brainwashbut I really don't feel like waiting another month until something happens14:40
brainwashwe got the PPA14:40
brainwashI cannot force people to do things, but we really should focus on fixing these issues14:40
elfyI suppose what we really need at the moment is a list of these issues and PPA's people have kicking about for everything14:41
brainwashwe need a plan14:41
brainwash:D14:41
elfyI have a plan 14:41
elfyso far it is on track :D14:42
elfybut seriously what we need is somewhere that we can list these things - with any related PPA's 14:42
elfythen TEAM can fill in their bits and the rest of us know what's going on14:43
brainwashright, launchpad bug reports are great, but after some time many of them get ignored14:43
elfyyea 14:44
elfyI for one am completely at a loss where we are with anything - which really isn't a good place to be14:44
elfybrainwash: set up a pad - mail the list with TEAM in the subject :)14:44
elfyhttp://pad.ubuntu.com/14:45
elfyback of to work now14:45
brainwasheventually I'll do that14:45
elfythat the plan? 14:45
elfy:p14:45
brainwashan improved blueprint site would be awesome, with a timeline, deadlines, a better overview and easy access14:48
mads_Hey guys. I've been using Xubuntu for a while now and have been looking into contributing but I'm not sure how to proceed. Can anyone here point me in the right direction? I was thinking bug-fixing or development, or whatever is needed.15:13
pleia2I can't speak to development (aside from always needing help there), but we do need more testers15:13
mads_What would you recommend doing to get into helping with testing?15:15
pleia2http://xubuntu.org/news/help-us-test-xubuntu-14-04-lts/15:16
pleia2was grabbing the link, just on slow vacation wifi :)15:16
mads_Heh, it's fine. I'll give it a read. Thanks.15:16

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