[00:15] thanks [07:40] knome: if you get chance to can you speak to someone - if anyone is about - iso tracker is all fubar - again - showing 2 lots of images :( [07:40] hmm [07:40] i'll look at that [07:41] i should have all keys to that [07:41] ok [07:41] hmm, yeah, two set of dailies [07:42] yep - same the other day - I set one as not reportable [07:42] didn't get chance last night [07:43] and it looks like we STILL have this user session issue with the image [07:43] yep [07:43] slow moving people around christmas [07:44] * knome shrugs [07:44] mmm [07:44] i just removed them from the list [07:45] if that seems to happen again and again, let's try to catch stgraber after christmas [07:45] anyway - after xmas I hope we'll get a bit more proactive about things [07:45] yep, i'm looking at that kind of process from my side at least [07:45] knome: which list - got a link, wonder if it's just you that has key to the cupboard [07:45] when everything starts to be in place and there's nothing to organize coming towards us [07:45] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/308/builds [07:46] just selected the ISOs and picked "delete from the list" as status and hit update [07:46] oic = yea I did that I think the other day - if it's that simple then I can do that :) [07:46] yep, i didn't come up with a better solution [07:47] kiss suits me :D [07:47] there didn't seem to be any switch to do that any other way [07:47] yep ;) [07:48] I'll keep a weather eye on it and ping stgraber after xmas [07:48] because I reckon on seeing the same tomorrow etc [07:48] cheers, keep me pinged about it as well, i have other unfinished business with him.. [07:48] okey doke [07:48] (related to the tracker as well) [07:55] elfy: I'll be pretty quick to know if something gets merged or committed to fix that session dealio, I'll ping you if I see it. [07:56] ok - thanks - it'll be a race between you telling me or me seeing it in an e-mail then :p [07:57] Ah, wasn't sure you were subscribed since you asked about it "yesterday" [07:58] yep - subscribed :) but I was asking more to see if there was any new information that wasn't there [07:59] thought I'd subscribed x-bugs - have now :) [08:00] I poked in #ubuntustudio-devel about it, just in case they missed the issue. :P [08:12] Bug 1263188 is a direct dupe, bug 1259662 is what happens if you're in the Xfce session (so, expected), bug 1261660 is weird and "hidden" if the other one is fixed (but not a dupe) [08:12] bug 1263188 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "At first login, default session is xfce instead of xubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1263188 [08:12] bug 1259662 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Menus include settings applications" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1259662 [08:12] bug 1261660 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "User session fails to accept settings" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1261660 [08:14] Unit193: desc changed on last one - forgot to do that previously, only found that with 32bit [08:15] I saw that one as well, ended up creating the needed file to make it all well. [08:18] want to try to find the time to do a real clean install at some point this week [08:19] Unit193: I installed your ppa the other day - which I though got the nice tabwin - apparently not [08:19] assuming thats the alt-tab thing [08:20] elfy: I hope the right PPA. ppa:unit193/xfce has it, for best results use the shimmerppa too, IIRC. [08:23] How do you add the second sound indicator to the panel? I added it, and it's broken, but forget how to reproduce it. [08:25] Unit193: yea - was that one [08:26] elfy: apt-cache policy xfwm4 [08:26] Installed: 4.11.0-0ubuntu1~ppa0.13.10.2 [08:27] 4.11.0~0.tabwin.git20131212.edf7ad4-1 You have the xfce 4.12 PPA, then. [08:27] yea think so [08:27] so some fighting amonst themsleves then lol [08:29] I could change that to 4.11.0+tabwin if need be. ;P [08:29] :) [08:30] well I'm not too worried - though the tabwin I saw looked a whole lot nicer :) [08:30] off to work now [08:30] Noskcaj: not sure what you mean I'm afraid - I promise I wasn't ignoring you [08:31] elfy: sudo apt-get install xfwm4=4.11.0~0.tabwin.git20131212.edf7ad4-1~13.10.1 will do it. :D [08:32] Version ‘4.11.0~0.tabwin.git20131212.edf7ad4-1~13.10.1’ for ‘xfwm4’ was not found [08:32] run out of time now - cya later :) [08:33] (You'll have to change the version number on the end for trusty, if you're on it.) Chau. [08:37] k - will look later [08:37] elfy, I forget how i enabled it, but we have a second sound indicator which gives a link to a broken version of settings-manager which it called sound preferences [08:37] ali1234: just prved this xchat thing - installed and used hexchat - had tv plugged in - turned tv off - back to the 1990's for that [10:29] elfy: Don't have to force it now. === xnox_ is now known as xnox === OutOfControl is now known as benonsoftware [14:15] Unit193: looks better :) [14:37] what needs to be done to release the patched version of xfce4-power-manager (full systemd support) for trusty and also for saucy? [14:37] bug 1222021 [14:37] bug 1222021 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "xfce4-power-manager does not inhibit systemd from handling buttons and lid events" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1222021 [14:37] is it in the sponsor queue? [14:38] on that topic, I'd like to point out: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10566 (includes trivial patch) [14:38] bugzilla.xfce.org bug 10566 in General "Display Power Percentage" [Enhancement,New] [14:38] we don't have a SRU report yet [14:38] oh - didn't read saucy [14:38] trusty and saucy [14:38] well, first trusty :D [14:39] yea - my eyes blank when I seen saucy :p [14:39] as far as trusty - afaik we are trying to get things on the sponsor queue [14:39] Noskcaj might need to solve a packaging issue first [14:40] but I really don't feel like waiting another month until something happens [14:40] we got the PPA [14:40] I cannot force people to do things, but we really should focus on fixing these issues [14:41] I suppose what we really need at the moment is a list of these issues and PPA's people have kicking about for everything [14:41] we need a plan [14:41] :D [14:41] I have a plan [14:42] so far it is on track :D [14:42] but seriously what we need is somewhere that we can list these things - with any related PPA's [14:43] then TEAM can fill in their bits and the rest of us know what's going on [14:43] right, launchpad bug reports are great, but after some time many of them get ignored [14:44] yea [14:44] I for one am completely at a loss where we are with anything - which really isn't a good place to be [14:44] brainwash: set up a pad - mail the list with TEAM in the subject :) [14:45] http://pad.ubuntu.com/ [14:45] back of to work now [14:45] eventually I'll do that [14:45] that the plan? [14:45] :p [14:48] an improved blueprint site would be awesome, with a timeline, deadlines, a better overview and easy access [15:13] Hey guys. I've been using Xubuntu for a while now and have been looking into contributing but I'm not sure how to proceed. Can anyone here point me in the right direction? I was thinking bug-fixing or development, or whatever is needed. [15:13] I can't speak to development (aside from always needing help there), but we do need more testers [15:15] What would you recommend doing to get into helping with testing? [15:16] http://xubuntu.org/news/help-us-test-xubuntu-14-04-lts/ [15:16] was grabbing the link, just on slow vacation wifi :) [15:16] Heh, it's fine. I'll give it a read. Thanks.