[00:15] <Noskcaj> thanks
[07:40] <elfy> knome: if you get chance to can you speak to someone - if anyone is about - iso tracker is all fubar - again - showing 2 lots of images :(
[07:40] <knome> hmm
[07:40] <knome> i'll look at that
[07:41] <knome> i should have all keys to that
[07:41] <elfy> ok
[07:41] <knome> hmm, yeah, two set of dailies
[07:42] <elfy> yep - same the other day - I set one as not reportable
[07:42] <elfy> didn't get chance last night
[07:43] <elfy> and it looks like we STILL have this user session issue with the image 
[07:43] <knome> yep
[07:43] <knome> slow moving people around christmas
[07:44]  * knome shrugs
[07:44] <elfy> mmm
[07:44] <knome> i just removed them from the list
[07:45] <knome> if that seems to happen again and again, let's try to catch stgraber after christmas
[07:45] <elfy> anyway - after xmas I hope we'll get a bit more proactive about things 
[07:45] <knome> yep, i'm looking at that kind of process from my side at least
[07:45] <elfy> knome: which list - got a link, wonder if it's just you that has key to the cupboard 
[07:45] <knome> when everything starts to be in place and there's nothing to organize coming towards us
[07:45] <knome> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/308/builds
[07:46] <knome> just selected the ISOs and picked "delete from the list" as status and hit update
[07:46] <elfy> oic = yea I did that I think the other day - if it's that simple then I can do that :)
[07:46] <knome> yep, i didn't come up with a better solution
[07:47] <elfy> kiss suits me :D
[07:47] <knome> there didn't seem to be any switch to do that any other way
[07:47] <knome> yep ;)
[07:48] <elfy> I'll keep a weather eye on it and ping stgraber after xmas
[07:48] <elfy> because I reckon on seeing the same tomorrow etc
[07:48] <knome> cheers, keep me pinged about it as well, i have other unfinished business with him..
[07:48] <elfy> okey doke
[07:48] <knome> (related to the tracker as well)
[07:55] <Unit193> elfy: I'll be pretty quick to know if something gets merged or committed to fix that session dealio, I'll ping you if I see it.
[07:56] <elfy> ok - thanks - it'll be a race between you telling me or me seeing it in an e-mail then :p
[07:57] <Unit193> Ah, wasn't sure you were subscribed since you asked about it "yesterday"
[07:58] <elfy> yep - subscribed :) but I was asking more to see if there was any new information that wasn't there
[07:59] <elfy> thought I'd subscribed x-bugs - have now :)
[08:00] <Unit193> I poked in #ubuntustudio-devel about it, just in case they missed the issue. :P
[08:12] <Unit193> Bug 1263188 is a direct dupe, bug 1259662 is what happens if you're in the Xfce session (so, expected), bug 1261660 is weird and "hidden" if the other one is fixed (but not a dupe)
[08:14] <elfy> Unit193: desc changed on last one - forgot to do that  previously, only found that with 32bit
[08:15] <Unit193> I saw that one as well, ended up creating the needed file to make it all well.
[08:18] <elfy> want to try to find the time to do a real clean install at some point this week
[08:19] <elfy> Unit193: I installed your ppa the other day - which I though got the nice tabwin - apparently not
[08:19] <elfy> assuming thats the alt-tab thing
[08:20] <Unit193> elfy: I hope the right PPA.  ppa:unit193/xfce has it, for best results use the shimmerppa too, IIRC.
[08:23] <Noskcaj> How do you add the second sound indicator to the panel? I added it, and it's broken, but forget how to reproduce it.
[08:25] <elfy> Unit193: yea - was that one 
[08:26] <Unit193> elfy: apt-cache policy xfwm4
[08:26] <elfy> Installed: 4.11.0-0ubuntu1~ppa0.13.10.2
[08:27] <Unit193> 4.11.0~0.tabwin.git20131212.edf7ad4-1  You have the xfce 4.12 PPA, then.
[08:27] <elfy> yea think so
[08:27] <elfy> so some fighting amonst themsleves then lol
[08:29] <Unit193> I could change that to 4.11.0+tabwin if need be. ;P
[08:29] <elfy> :)
[08:30] <elfy> well I'm not too worried - though the tabwin I saw looked a whole lot nicer :)
[08:30] <elfy> off to work now 
[08:30] <elfy> Noskcaj: not sure what you mean I'm afraid - I promise I wasn't ignoring you 
[08:31] <Unit193> elfy: sudo apt-get install xfwm4=4.11.0~0.tabwin.git20131212.edf7ad4-1~13.10.1  will do it. :D
[08:32] <elfy> Version ‘4.11.0~0.tabwin.git20131212.edf7ad4-1~13.10.1’ for ‘xfwm4’ was not found
[08:32] <elfy> run out of time now - cya later :)
[08:33] <Unit193> (You'll have to change the version number on the end for trusty, if you're on it.)  Chau.
[08:37] <elfy> k - will look later
[08:37] <Noskcaj> elfy, I forget how i enabled it, but we have a second sound indicator which gives a link to a broken version of settings-manager which it called sound preferences
[08:37] <elfy> ali1234: just prved this xchat thing - installed and used hexchat - had tv plugged in - turned tv off - back to the 1990's for that 
[10:29] <Unit193> elfy: Don't have to force it now.
[14:15] <elfy> Unit193: looks better :)
[14:37] <brainwash> what needs to be done to release the patched version of xfce4-power-manager (full systemd support) for trusty and also for saucy?
[14:37] <brainwash> bug 1222021
[14:37] <elfy> is it in the sponsor queue? 
[14:38] <pmjdebruijn> on that topic, I'd like to point out: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10566 (includes trivial patch)
[14:38] <brainwash> we don't have a SRU report yet
[14:38] <elfy> oh - didn't read saucy
[14:38] <brainwash> trusty and saucy
[14:38] <brainwash> well, first trusty :D
[14:39] <elfy> yea - my eyes blank when I seen saucy :p
[14:39] <elfy> as far as trusty - afaik we are trying to get things on the sponsor queue 
[14:39] <brainwash> Noskcaj might need to solve a packaging issue first
[14:40] <brainwash> but I really don't feel like waiting another month until something happens
[14:40] <brainwash> we got the PPA
[14:40] <brainwash> I cannot force people to do things, but we really should focus on fixing these issues
[14:41] <elfy> I suppose what we really need at the moment is a list of these issues and PPA's people have kicking about for everything
[14:41] <brainwash> we need a plan
[14:41] <brainwash> :D
[14:41] <elfy> I have a plan 
[14:42] <elfy> so far it is on track :D
[14:42] <elfy> but seriously what we need is somewhere that we can list these things - with any related PPA's 
[14:43] <elfy> then TEAM can fill in their bits and the rest of us know what's going on
[14:43] <brainwash> right, launchpad bug reports are great, but after some time many of them get ignored
[14:44] <elfy> yea 
[14:44] <elfy> I for one am completely at a loss where we are with anything - which really isn't a good place to be
[14:44] <elfy> brainwash: set up a pad - mail the list with TEAM in the subject :)
[14:45] <elfy> http://pad.ubuntu.com/
[14:45] <elfy> back of to work now
[14:45] <brainwash> eventually I'll do that
[14:45] <elfy> that the plan? 
[14:45] <elfy> :p
[14:48] <brainwash> an improved blueprint site would be awesome, with a timeline, deadlines, a better overview and easy access
[15:13] <mads_> Hey guys. I've been using Xubuntu for a while now and have been looking into contributing but I'm not sure how to proceed. Can anyone here point me in the right direction? I was thinking bug-fixing or development, or whatever is needed.
[15:13] <pleia2> I can't speak to development (aside from always needing help there), but we do need more testers
[15:15] <mads_> What would you recommend doing to get into helping with testing?
[15:16] <pleia2> http://xubuntu.org/news/help-us-test-xubuntu-14-04-lts/
[15:16] <pleia2> was grabbing the link, just on slow vacation wifi :)
[15:16] <mads_> Heh, it's fine. I'll give it a read. Thanks.