[00:15] <linux> hello anyone here?
[00:29] <Riddell> yep
[00:44] <ahoneybun> valorie: I see we got one person wanting to proofread for us
[01:02] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1264016] can't create pen tablet profile @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1264016 (by Risto Pekkala)
[01:28] <manchicken> Good news! I figured out how to submit patches!
[01:28] <manchicken> https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/114650/
[01:36] <manchicken> Happy Christmas to Europe.
[01:36] <manchicken> valorie: What do you need proofreading on?
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[02:29] <ahoneybun> Hello all
[02:34]  * Riddell blogs http://blogs.kde.org/2013/12/25/photo-triage-kde-retrospective
[02:37] <manchicken> Riddell: Want me to tag you as a reviewer on my libqapt RB post?
[02:37] <manchicken> I finally got it submitted.
[02:37] <Riddell> manchicken: you can do but I doubt I'd be the best since I've never looed at libqapt
[02:38] <manchicken> Righto.
[02:38] <manchicken> I'm just hoping someone gives me a review :)
[02:39] <manchicken> The changes to libqapt make kubuntu-debug-installer's changes much more possible.
[02:39] <Riddell> yay
[02:39] <Riddell> I'm sure someone will
[02:41] <manchicken> The biggest problem I was having with kubuntu-debug-installer was that I kept on trashing my apt setup whenever I tested it... I fixed that bug in libqapt.
[02:41] <manchicken> Also, we also have the ability to specifically determine which sources.list file the entry goes into.
[02:49] <manchicken> Yay, JonT reviewed it!
[02:51] <manchicken> Weaksauce... he wants multiple patches.
[05:41] <valorie> happy birthday, Riddell!
[05:41] <valorie> probably a bit late.....
[06:41] <ahoneybun> hey people
[06:51] <ahoneybun> hey valorie
[06:52] <valorie> hey ahoneybun
[06:52] <valorie> merry christmas
[06:58] <ahoneybun> merry christmas
[06:59]  * ahoneybun just needs to deal with this card https://trello.com/c/jpa4Ob0g/70-wiki-kubuntu-org-forward-to-wiki-kubuntu-org-kubuntu
[07:03] <ahoneybun> valorie: I don't have any presents lol
[07:04] <ahoneybun> I sent a email to rt about that card with you and Riddell as cc's 
[07:05] <valorie> good
[07:05] <valorie> I'll read it in a bit
[07:08] <ahoneybun> ok
[07:11] <ahoneybun> I'm rereading the email about my membership :)
[07:22] <ahoneybun> makes me happy to look at the work
[07:24] <valorie> me too
[07:25] <valorie> {{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}
[07:25] <valorie> you rock
[07:26] <ahoneybun> thanks you too val
[07:26] <ahoneybun> I was wondering about the mini-docs
[07:26] <ahoneybun> since all the docs can be translated now
[07:26] <ahoneybun> with mediawiki
[07:27] <valorie> and my comment is, do we need them, if we can get everything translated?
[07:27] <valorie> the original idea was to have a small subset so those could be translated
[07:28] <valorie> but if it all is -- our docs are not that large a package
[07:29] <ahoneybun> we don't really need them in my option
[07:29] <ahoneybun> since they were dealing with the problem of translating on the moinmoin system
[07:29] <valorie> I agree
[07:29] <ahoneybun> but we have mediawiki not
[07:29] <valorie> I think they were darkwing's idea
[07:29] <ahoneybun> *now which removes the need
[07:30] <valorie> in response to a problem we no longer have
[07:30] <ahoneybun> yea
[07:30] <valorie> and he's not helping out
[07:30] <valorie> so
[07:30] <valorie> buh bye
[07:30] <ahoneybun> so remove from trello
[07:30] <valorie> imo
[07:30] <valorie> cool
[07:30] <ahoneybun> agreed +1
[07:30] <ahoneybun> this is a good idea https://trello.com/c/rdjcoZVZ/74-update-screenshot-to-14-04
[07:31] <ahoneybun> and with mediawiki we can do it
[07:31] <ahoneybun> wrong link
[07:31] <ahoneybun> https://trello.com/c/ubPSfp6f/73-video-tutorials-for-kubuntu-docs
[07:31] <ahoneybun> there
[07:32] <valorie> yes, that sounds really useful
[07:32] <valorie> people learn in different ways
[07:33] <valorie> videos don't help ME
[07:33] <valorie> but some love 'em
[07:33] <ahoneybun> I like pictures  and videos
[07:33] <ahoneybun> more hands on as well
[07:33] <valorie> yes
[07:34] <ahoneybun> https://trello.com/c/gTWl12rt/76-advanced-page-set-for-14-04 with this should we include things like hotspot usage, wine, alien and such?
[07:36] <valorie> I think we should link to pages about those topics, sure
[07:36] <valorie> people ask, so we should provide information if we have it
[07:36] <valorie> short, accurate, sweet
[07:36] <ahoneybun> ok Volken has one about hotspot usage (with pictures
[07:37] <ahoneybun> on a askubuntu or something like that
[07:38] <ahoneybun> also http://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu/Contribute maybe use this on kubuntu.org as the Contibute page?
[07:38] <ahoneybun> I know I need to talk to Riddell and them first
[07:40] <valorie> perhaps send an email to -devel and discuss our page, and the present Contribute page
[07:40] <valorie> personally, I'd like to see the same content used multiple places, so that one update makes everything current
[07:40] <ahoneybun> mirroring
[07:41] <ahoneybun> like docs.kubuntu.org
[07:41] <valorie> right
[07:41] <valorie> updating the same info multiple places is a bit nuts
[07:44] <ahoneybun> yea
[07:44] <ahoneybun> email sent
[07:44] <ahoneybun> we got one email back about the proofreading
[07:47] <valorie> cool
[07:47] <valorie> I've been afk most of today, and will be tomorrow too
[07:48] <ahoneybun> ok
[07:48] <ahoneybun> I find it funny that Ubuntu Ohio LoCo is following our Google+ page
[07:48] <valorie> why is that funny?
[07:49] <valorie> probably someone in the leadership is a kub. users
[07:49] <valorie> user
[07:49] <ahoneybun> yea
[07:49] <valorie> we are part of the ubuntu community after all
[07:49] <ahoneybun> I just updated the page with our new wiki url and trello page
[07:50]  * ahoneybun just realized we can theme docs.kubuntu.org how we want if we wanted to do more work lol
[07:51] <valorie> cool
[07:51] <ahoneybun> since we are not on wiki.kubuntu.org anymore
[07:51] <ahoneybun> I kinda want to make nice page
[07:51] <ahoneybun> just wonder if I have the skill
[07:52] <valorie> one of these days it would be good to do a search on wiki.ubuntu.org for "kubuntu" and see what's there
[07:52] <ahoneybun> yea
[07:52] <valorie> might be good stuff, or stuff needing fixing or deletion
[07:57] <ahoneybun> god my site design class seems so long ago lol
[07:57] <ahoneybun> can't remember anything
[07:58] <valorie> there are a lot of good books and sites about good design
[07:59] <ahoneybun> yea
[07:59] <ahoneybun> trying to go simple
[08:00] <ahoneybun> http://www.modny73.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Clean-Minimal-Web-Designs-cover.jpg like this
[08:00] <valorie> that's always the best, for sure
[08:00] <ahoneybun> logo on the right then pages on the left
[08:00] <ahoneybun> buttons
[08:00] <valorie> without the models, I hope
[08:00] <ahoneybun> minus the women of course
[08:00] <ahoneybun> yea lol
[08:01] <valorie> looks good
[08:01] <ahoneybun> I want it to keep the Kubuntu colors as well
[08:01] <ahoneybun> to look nice
[08:01] <ahoneybun> and use GIMP and such to make the buttons
[08:02] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:03] <valorie> right, we need to fit in with the rest of the site
[08:12] <ahoneybun> lordievader: hey !
[08:14] <lordievader> Hey ahoneybun, Merry Christmas! How are you?
[08:14] <ahoneybun> valorie: I made a site for my class that had 3 different buttons for each action
[08:14] <ahoneybun> normal, hover, click
[08:14] <ahoneybun> lordievader: same to you and good
[08:15] <valorie> I like the hover class: what will this do?
[08:15] <valorie> I really miss that in mobile apps
[08:15] <valorie> no clue what clicking a button will do, sometimes
[08:15] <valorie> and no way to find out except trying it
[08:16] <lordievader> ahoneybun: I had some question about the kde userbase. I need an account to edit the site, how do I make one since my bugs.kde account doesn't work.
[08:17] <valorie> identity.kde.org
[08:17] <valorie> they are working to integrate the bugs accounts, but that isn't done yet
[08:18] <lordievader> Ah I see, thanks.
[08:18] <ahoneybun> or google
[08:18]  * lordievader heads over to identity.kde.org
[08:18] <valorie> one problem is that some people have multiple bko accounts, because for instance they work on one thing for work, another at not-work
[08:18] <lordievader> ahoneybun: I tried that, got some error there.
[08:18] <valorie> I don't think the google stuff is working out
[08:21] <ahoneybun> yea just saying
[08:21] <valorie> identity is getting better and better
[08:24] <ahoneybun> yea I just made a new account
[08:25] <valorie> ?
[08:25] <valorie> you shouldn't have more than one
[08:26] <valorie> if you do, you can get the sysadmins to merge them, I think
[08:26]  * lordievader has an account :)
[08:27] <ahoneybun> idk could not get in anymore
[08:27] <ahoneybun> or at all
[08:28] <ahoneybun> lordievader: We have all the pages moved over to userbase now :)
[08:28] <lordievader> ahoneybun: Ah great, lovely.
[08:28] <ahoneybun> yep
[08:29] <ahoneybun> just need them to be proofread again incase I messed something up when I moved them over
[08:29] <ahoneybun> valorie: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-BiDKXNbAJzU/UqiPbBy8vDI/AAAAAAAAIYw/6wRRjd69eRA/w1064-h599-no/The-Time-of-the-Doctor-POST.png
[08:30] <lordievader> Hmm, do I need to do some additional things? Or should I wait because the systems need to sync? I can't login to the userbase.kde.
[08:30] <valorie> lordievader: ask at #kde-sysadmin
[08:30] <lordievader> Too bad I can't watch Dr. Who tonight. I hope they put it on the iPlayer.
[08:30] <valorie> they can check the account and make sure everything is ok
[08:31] <valorie> lordievader: I think it is recording now
[08:31] <valorie> I was going to wait, but I might break down and watch......
[08:31] <ahoneybun> valorie: excellent follow up to my email
[08:31] <valorie> "=_
[08:31] <valorie> sheesh
[08:31] <valorie> :-)
[08:31] <valorie> total finger/keyboard mismatch
[08:32] <ahoneybun> <keycap></keycap> <code></code> are awesome lol
[08:34] <ahoneybun> so early
[08:34] <ahoneybun> 3:30 am
[08:35] <lordievader> ahoneybun: Here it is 9:30 am ;)
[08:35] <ahoneybun> wow
[08:35] <ahoneybun> 12/25?
[08:36] <lordievader> ahoneybun: Yes.
[08:36] <ahoneybun> wow
[08:37] <lordievader> Is that strange?
[08:37] <ahoneybun> no just different
[08:37] <ahoneybun> timezone are funny lol
[08:37] <ahoneybun> valorie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP6VqB4klpQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=118
[08:41] <valorie> ahoneybun: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7jtC8vjXw8
[08:41] <valorie> sad how much of that I recognize
[08:42] <ahoneybun> yea lol
[08:43] <ahoneybun> it has erb in it'
[08:55] <ahoneybun> 2013 went by so fast
[08:56] <lordievader> When you're having fun time goes twice as fast. ahoneybun, you had a lot of fun ;)
[08:56] <ahoneybun> oh I did? lol
[08:57] <ahoneybun> yea I did
[08:57] <lordievader> ;)
[08:57] <ahoneybun> lol brought back the Docs that is the biggest one
[08:57]  * lordievader is now able to edit the Documentation :D
[08:58] <ahoneybun> sweet
[08:59] <lordievader> But first I need to comment/document my art project and make it available on Github.
[09:03] <ahoneybun> any news on the installer for 14.04>
[09:03] <ahoneybun> what is it going to look like so we can update those installer images
[09:03] <ahoneybun> ?
[11:18] <k1310> hi
[11:18] <k1310> is there anyone with problems running eclipse in kubuntu 13.10?
[11:32] <codeforfun> k1310: hi, what problems/errors do you encounter?
[11:33] <k1310> Hi, it's a core dump, i'm reading in forums that it could be related to the system preferences, it's a bug of the java vm
[11:34] <codeforfun> k1310: are you unable to start Eclipse? it crashes right at startup or afterwards?
[11:34] <k1310> at startup
[11:35] <k1310> it seems to work changing the gtk2 theme of kde
[11:36] <k1310> ok, i'ts working now
[11:36] <k1310> thank you codeforfun, for your attention!
[11:58] <Quintasan> \o
[11:59] <Quintasan> codeforfun:  good job "debugging" that at first attempt
[11:59] <Quintasan> took me a while to figure out what the hell is going on with eclispe
[11:59] <Quintasan> eclipse even*
[12:32] <codeforfun> Quintasan: yes, problems with Eclipse I had usually involved: having the right JVM, settings in eclipse.ini , or the correct theme on the desktop environment, i.e. GTK+ apps discrepancies in a non-GTK DE
[12:34] <codeforfun> k1310: btw https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Uniform_Look_for_Qt_and_GTK_Applications
[13:00] <Mamarok> oh my, I forgot Riddell's birthday :( Happy belated one, then :)
[13:06] <soee_> kded4 crashes lately
[13:36] <BluesKaj> Merry Christmas to all !
[19:35] <ahoneybun> Merry Christmas people
[20:11] <Noskcaj> merry christmas (for yesterday) ahoneybun 
[21:18] <shadeslayer> Riddell: how was Doctor Who
[21:48] <Noskcaj> shadeslayer, Would you mind seeing which of the ktp packages can be fakesynced? Most of them can, and it's an unnecessary diff from debian for most of them.
[21:57] <valorie> I held off watching the Doctor until tonight!
[21:57] <valorie> extra xmas treat
[21:57] <valorie> happy christmas, everybody
[22:38] <acmarques> Alguém pode me dizer porque o compiz não funciona no Kubuntu 13.10?
[23:13] <Riddell> shadeslayer: a bit over sentimental but good as always
[23:14] <Riddell> shadeslayer: looks like the new doctor will be a bit grumpyer
[23:16] <ahoneybun> Riddell: don't I have not seen it yey!
[23:16] <ahoneybun> yet