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Noskcajshame. I'll try and get everything set up in pkg-gnome first, maybe se if it can be uploaded to unstable00:00
darkxstNoskcaj, for the really trivial merges, I tend to just do them manually00:19
darkxstotherwise I tend to do them with a bit of git foo00:19
NoskcajI'll just copy across from pkg-gnome experimental svn, but list it all as 0ubuntu1 changes.00:28
NoskcajApparently there was a license issue though, which might be why 3.10.1 isn't uploaded00:29
darkxstok00:33
Noskcajdarkxst, Could i get you to look at our patches though. I think they are both fixed upstream, but need you to confirm00:49
NoskcajMy work is at lp:~noskcaj/ubuntu/trusty/libgweather/merge-svn , once someone has looked into the 01 patch, i think i can handle the rest of the transition00:53
darkxstNoskcaj, 01_gettext_not_xml.patch is fixed upstream00:55
NoskcajOk, It's just that a bit of it was still able to apply00:57
darkxstNoskcaj, 02_no_external_gettext.patch is not fixed upstream00:58
NoskcajReally? It said it could be reverse-applied?00:59
darkxstcertainly not fixed in the 3-10 git branch01:01
Noskcajok, let me check01:01
Noskcajdarkxst, All fixed, should be upload ready. I'll see if i can get a transition made01:10
darkxstNoskcaj, thanks01:46
SonikkuAmericaAh, a nick I have not seen in a while.01:57
darkxstNoskcaj, so a few other things we need so we can upload gnome-shell 3.10:06:49
darkxstgnome-themes-standard 3.10 (sync from debian)06:49
darkxstmodemmanager > 0.7.991, probably 1.0 is best06:49
darkxstnetwork manager 0.9.8.806:50
darkxstmodemmanager might need to use a new source package since most of the rdepends don't support the new API06:50
darkxsthaven't yet looked closely at any fallout from network manager update06:51
Noskcajok. I'll look at themes tonight, try to get to the others tomorrow, plus finsh the libgweather transition06:57
Noskcaji think kde needs modemmanager too06:57
darkxstI think the latest version of sucrose also needs it, however the ones in the archive are not compatible with the new version07:08
darkxstNoskcaj, anyway, thanks for the help ;)07:10
Noskcajgnome-themes-standard can't be synced, but a merge will take me about 5 minutes.07:10
darkxstyeh that is what I meant sorry, it has a couple of ubuntu changes ;)07:11
darkxstI'm currently working to fix GtkHeaderBar, so once that is done, should unblock the rest of the 3.10 apps that use Client Side window decorations07:13
Noskcaj:)07:16
Noskcajdarkxst, themes is all good, pushing now. I'm worried about the others since network manager 0.9.8.8 broke badly in debian, and modemmanager's api change07:36
darkxstNoskcaj, what broke?07:38
darkxstI know about modemmanager api change, hence why I suggested a new source package07:38
Noskcajhttp://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=73043707:39
ubot5Debian bug 730437 in network-manager "network-manager: fails to start" [Serious,Open]07:39
darkxsthmm right, more worried about regressions, we have had the new network manager on the PPA for quite a while and have not seen anything like that07:41
darkxstthat said, PPA's only build intel arch07:41
darkxst's07:41
darkxstwhich is a real pain, we have no way to test the other arches but are still expected to fix them when they fail ;(07:45
Noskcajdarkxst, For more important stuff, you can get the launchpad ppa guys to turn other arches on, but that's probably worth saving for build testing07:57
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SonikkuAmerica"Should Ubuntu GNOME does go away, you can always install Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and then install GNOME3 packages from the main archive or the various PPAs." <<< At this point, I wouldn't even try to LTS-ize, I would start preparing for 16.04 LTS as our first release.18:34
SonikkuAmerica(That quote is from Phoronix)18:34
NoskcajFor the libgweather transition, panel needs fixes from the debian svn, clocks needs a new upstream release, and evolution can be bundled with some upstream bugfix releases20:15
diogocamposHi, everyone.21:42
Noskcajhey diogocampos21:49
diogocamposI just read on Phoronix about the need for contributors to Ubuntu GNOME.21:51
Noskcajdiogocampos, Yeah, we're a very new flavour, and as a result have limited contributors21:53
diogocamposthen suddenly something came to my mind, and I would like to offer it as a suggestion for everyone.21:56
diogocamposThe suggestion would be: contribute to Fedora.21:58
diogocamposHope nobody get me wrong. I just think there are good reasons for this.21:59
NoskcajWe'd prefer if you didn't use the channel to advertise fedora, but continue22:00
diogocamposI'm sorry. This is not the point. I can stop.22:02
NoskcajIt's fine, what's your suggestion?22:04
diogocamposok, I'll be brief22:07
diogocamposIf I am right, you all (and myself included) want to offer people a free (and excellent) operating system built with the "GNOME experience". Since ALL community projects need a lot of contributions, it would be ideal if EVERYONE could join forces.22:15
diogocamposSo I suggest Fedora because of the huge focus this project already have in GNOME. Also, In it GNOME is the main desktop, various GNOME developers focus on it, versions of GNOME are the most recent, and is also (like Ubuntu) a project that have a strong financial investment...22:22
diogocamposBUT, could be any other project too.22:23
diogocamposI just wanted people to collaborate more with each other. Only then can we make the world a better place (and build a truly excellent system - based on GNOME, preferably :P).22:29
diogocamposThanks for listening my utopias. Anyway, wish the best for everyone.22:30
Noskcajdiogocampos, Everyone communicating is a good, please help with that however possible. Fully joining forces is unlikely, since ubuntu and fedora have different goals22:36
diogocamposI will try to understand.22:53
darkxstdiogocampos, Ubuntu GNOME exists to bring GNOME to Ubuntu, jumping camps to fedora kind of defeats the purpose22:54
diogocamposI can see your point. No problem.22:56
darkxstNoskcaj, I suppose clocks is using CSD's23:01
darkxst?23:01
darkxstwe are not supposed to be uploading those without patching, although I am not sure that anyone would care too much about clocks23:05
NoskcajCSD? i probably should remember this23:09
darkxstNoskcaj, i.e. no traditional titlebar, and close button in the headerbar23:11

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