[00:00] <Noskcaj> shame. I'll try and get everything set up in pkg-gnome first, maybe se if it can be uploaded to unstable
[00:19] <darkxst> Noskcaj, for the really trivial merges, I tend to just do them manually
[00:19] <darkxst> otherwise I tend to do them with a bit of git foo
[00:28] <Noskcaj> I'll just copy across from pkg-gnome experimental svn, but list it all as 0ubuntu1 changes.
[00:29] <Noskcaj> Apparently there was a license issue though, which might be why 3.10.1 isn't uploaded
[00:33] <darkxst> ok
[00:49] <Noskcaj> darkxst, Could i get you to look at our patches though. I think they are both fixed upstream, but need you to confirm
[00:53] <Noskcaj> My work is at lp:~noskcaj/ubuntu/trusty/libgweather/merge-svn , once someone has looked into the 01 patch, i think i can handle the rest of the transition
[00:55] <darkxst> Noskcaj, 01_gettext_not_xml.patch is fixed upstream
[00:57] <Noskcaj> Ok, It's just that a bit of it was still able to apply
[00:58] <darkxst> Noskcaj, 02_no_external_gettext.patch is not fixed upstream
[00:59] <Noskcaj> Really? It said it could be reverse-applied?
[01:01] <darkxst> certainly not fixed in the 3-10 git branch
[01:01] <Noskcaj> ok, let me check
[01:10] <Noskcaj> darkxst, All fixed, should be upload ready. I'll see if i can get a transition made
[01:46] <darkxst> Noskcaj, thanks
[01:57] <SonikkuAmerica> Ah, a nick I have not seen in a while.
[06:49] <darkxst> Noskcaj, so a few other things we need so we can upload gnome-shell 3.10:
[06:49] <darkxst> gnome-themes-standard 3.10 (sync from debian)
[06:49] <darkxst> modemmanager > 0.7.991, probably 1.0 is best
[06:50] <darkxst> network manager 0.9.8.8
[06:50] <darkxst> modemmanager might need to use a new source package since most of the rdepends don't support the new API
[06:51] <darkxst> haven't yet looked closely at any fallout from network manager update
[06:57] <Noskcaj> ok. I'll look at themes tonight, try to get to the others tomorrow, plus finsh the libgweather transition
[06:57] <Noskcaj> i think kde needs modemmanager too
[07:08] <darkxst> I think the latest version of sucrose also needs it, however the ones in the archive are not compatible with the new version
[07:10] <darkxst> Noskcaj, anyway, thanks for the help ;)
[07:10] <Noskcaj> gnome-themes-standard can't be synced, but a merge will take me about 5 minutes.
[07:11] <darkxst> yeh that is what I meant sorry, it has a couple of ubuntu changes ;)
[07:13] <darkxst> I'm currently working to fix GtkHeaderBar, so once that is done, should unblock the rest of the 3.10 apps that use Client Side window decorations
[07:16] <Noskcaj> :)
[07:36] <Noskcaj> darkxst, themes is all good, pushing now. I'm worried about the others since network manager 0.9.8.8 broke badly in debian, and modemmanager's api change
[07:38] <darkxst> Noskcaj, what broke?
[07:38] <darkxst> I know about modemmanager api change, hence why I suggested a new source package
[07:39] <Noskcaj> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=730437
[07:41] <darkxst> hmm right, more worried about regressions, we have had the new network manager on the PPA for quite a while and have not seen anything like that
[07:41] <darkxst> that said, PPA's only build intel arch
[07:41] <darkxst> 's
[07:45] <darkxst> which is a real pain, we have no way to test the other arches but are still expected to fix them when they fail ;(
[07:57] <Noskcaj> darkxst, For more important stuff, you can get the launchpad ppa guys to turn other arches on, but that's probably worth saving for build testing
[18:34] <SonikkuAmerica> "Should Ubuntu GNOME does go away, you can always install Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and then install GNOME3 packages from the main archive or the various PPAs." <<< At this point, I wouldn't even try to LTS-ize, I would start preparing for 16.04 LTS as our first release.
[18:34] <SonikkuAmerica> (That quote is from Phoronix)
[20:15] <Noskcaj> For the libgweather transition, panel needs fixes from the debian svn, clocks needs a new upstream release, and evolution can be bundled with some upstream bugfix releases
[21:42] <diogocampos> Hi, everyone.
[21:49] <Noskcaj> hey diogocampos
[21:51] <diogocampos> I just read on Phoronix about the need for contributors to Ubuntu GNOME.
[21:53] <Noskcaj> diogocampos, Yeah, we're a very new flavour, and as a result have limited contributors
[21:56] <diogocampos> then suddenly something came to my mind, and I would like to offer it as a suggestion for everyone.
[21:58] <diogocampos> The suggestion would be: contribute to Fedora.
[21:59] <diogocampos> Hope nobody get me wrong. I just think there are good reasons for this.
[22:00] <Noskcaj> We'd prefer if you didn't use the channel to advertise fedora, but continue
[22:02] <diogocampos> I'm sorry. This is not the point. I can stop.
[22:04] <Noskcaj> It's fine, what's your suggestion?
[22:07] <diogocampos> ok, I'll be brief
[22:15] <diogocampos> If I am right, you all (and myself included) want to offer people a free (and excellent) operating system built with the "GNOME experience". Since ALL community projects need a lot of contributions, it would be ideal if EVERYONE could join forces.
[22:22] <diogocampos> So I suggest Fedora because of the huge focus this project already have in GNOME. Also, In it GNOME is the main desktop, various GNOME developers focus on it, versions of GNOME are the most recent, and is also (like Ubuntu) a project that have a strong financial investment...
[22:23] <diogocampos> BUT, could be any other project too.
[22:29] <diogocampos> I just wanted people to collaborate more with each other. Only then can we make the world a better place (and build a truly excellent system - based on GNOME, preferably :P).
[22:30] <diogocampos> Thanks for listening my utopias. Anyway, wish the best for everyone.
[22:36] <Noskcaj> diogocampos, Everyone communicating is a good, please help with that however possible. Fully joining forces is unlikely, since ubuntu and fedora have different goals
[22:53] <diogocampos> I will try to understand.
[22:54] <darkxst> diogocampos, Ubuntu GNOME exists to bring GNOME to Ubuntu, jumping camps to fedora kind of defeats the purpose
[22:56] <diogocampos> I can see your point. No problem.
[23:01] <darkxst> Noskcaj, I suppose clocks is using CSD's
[23:01] <darkxst> ?
[23:05] <darkxst> we are not supposed to be uploading those without patching, although I am not sure that anyone would care too much about clocks
[23:09] <Noskcaj> CSD? i probably should remember this
[23:11] <darkxst> Noskcaj, i.e. no traditional titlebar, and close button in the headerbar