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DJRWolfanyone know how to reinstall nvidia drivers from command prompt?00:07
SaberX01DJRWolf, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia00:12
ScottJensenhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual00:12
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DJRWolfSaberX01 thanks00:25
JohnnyLwhat the sidebar icon thing called and how to I program it?00:26
esdeunity00:28
JohnnyLhm ok00:31
JohnnyLthanks esde.00:31
JohnnyLmy icon doesn't show up in the side when i start a program from a link.00:32
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PhysicistGreetings..00:43
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PhysicistHow can i conect with a smart tv from ubuntu without use any cable?00:44
blizblaze.00:44
Luyinhow do I find out in which way my network printer is connected, SMB CIFS or IPP?00:44
airtonixPhysicist: i don't think ubuntu has support for WiDi yet00:45
dipedup0Mythtv00:46
dipedup0Mythtv will work00:46
dipedup0If the TV has an app for mythtv. Dlna also00:47
BeldarPhysicist, I used as mini server for this and wifi, but I forget the server, info on the web, did not work really well, depends on what you want.00:47
airtonixdipedup0: that's nice, but can you back up that claim with a link that mythtv magically brings in support for WiDi (Wireless Display) ?00:47
PhysicistBeldar: I would like to play a movie and send to my smart tv..00:48
airtonixdipedup0: or did you miss that part where Physicist said "...without use any cables"00:48
airtonixPhysicist: does your TV support miracast or WiDi ?00:49
Physicistairtonix: I don't know.00:49
BeldarPhysicist, I will look on the web for you, I believe there was a limitation to data speed transfer. My lap top has no hdmi so I just have a long usb cord.00:49
airtonixPhysicist: you need to find that out first. because they are not the same thing.00:49
airtonixPhysicist: remember you said "without use any cables" meaning you want to send the data wirelessly.00:50
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dipedup0Most smart TVs have dlna  clients and Ubuntu has dlna servers. Mythtv also has DN00:51
dipedup0Most smart TVs have dlna  clients and Ubuntu has dlna servers. Mythtv also has DLNA server00:51
Physicistairtonix: Exactly. I have the cables but I do not want use than.00:51
airtonixdipedup0: which means nothing if you have to connect to it via a cable.00:51
Physicist*then00:51
compdocdipedup0, is there a free service for tv guide info?00:51
airtonixdipedup0: the fact that a TV or a media device might have support for DLNA has nothing to do with it's supposed capability to wirelessly send data back and forth.00:52
PhysicistI can connect with an Android device easily..00:52
dipedup0UPNP also known as DLNA00:53
airtonixPhysicist: you still need to work out if it's miracast or WiDi. Android will have apps that do both. (you've not said which app your using)00:53
PhysicistBeldar: I appreciate.00:53
airtonixdipedup0: your point is? upnp doesn't have anything to do with miracast or widi either.00:53
Physicistairtonix: AllShare. Its a galaxy s3 software.00:54
BeldarPhysicist, I think if you have hdmi output on the computer I would hard plug it, however this thread mentions several media servers, Physicist00:54
airtonixPhysicist: again. find out if it's WiDi or Miracast.00:54
joebobjoeDoes anyone have any idea when VirtualBox will support Mir/Wayland?00:55
Beldarhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2080727   Physicist hehe00:55
airtonixBeldar: those all require using cables.00:55
airtonixPhysicist: my point is going end up being this: ubuntu doesn't have support for WiDi or Miracast yet.00:56
daftykinsjoebobjoe: virtualbox channel people might know00:56
Beldarairtonix, what all do?00:56
DarkSectorWhat's a good Desktop environment to run on 512 MB RAM?00:56
DarkSectorUnity seems very laggy00:56
airtonixPhysicist: Android has it because they already worked out the licensing issues.00:56
dipedup0Physicist: see if you have mythtv front end app on tv00:56
Physicistairtonix: Ok. I'm reading about Beldar 's tip.00:56
daftykinsDarkSector: on that much RAM i don't think you'll be running much of anything00:57
airtonixBeldar: Physicist was asking "how to connect ubuntu to a smart tv ***without cables*** "00:57
Beldarairtonix, I have a nexus 7 I'm familiar.00:57
airtonixBeldar: which means : Widi or MiraCast.00:57
SaberX01DarkSector, Xfce, Xubuntu, LDXE works ok on mt Dell D400 .. but Xubuntu seems a bit smoother.00:57
DarkSectorWhat about a window manager00:58
Beldarairtonix, Hmm I used several mini media servers on my brand new samsung on wifi, not sure if we are detailing this enough to really try some pointless argument00:58
SaberX01DarkSector, what do you me, what about it?00:59
SaberX01*mean00:59
airtonixBeldar: pointless?00:59
JohnnyLHm, I'm getting Glib errors if I try to change Unity icon in gksu nautilus /usr/share/applications00:59
airtonixBeldar: it's like someone asking how do I print a page, and someone else suggesting they install gimp.01:00
DarkSectorSaberX01 something like flux box or MWM01:00
Beldarairtonix, The link I gave have both ethernet wifi apps suggested on this exact description some on wired.01:00
DarkSectordipedup0 supp bro?01:00
airtonixBeldar: dlna, upnp have nothing to do with wireless transmission of display01:00
airtonixPhysicist: Beldar, dipedup0 http://askubuntu.com/questions/318298/ubuntu-as-miracast-sender-receiver01:00
DarkSectordipedup0 you okay bro?01:01
SaberX01DarkSector, I used the default when installing xubuntu-desktop .. dont even know what it is off top of my head.01:01
JohnnyLFeelin' the burn Bra.01:01
DarkSectorSaberX01 I think you don't need a DE for a window manager01:01
JohnnyLYou have to feel the burn bra.01:01
PhysicistBeldar, airtonix, I have to install independent software in the TV and i really do not want to do that. I realize that is much better option a hdmi cable. I'm sure the lost of quality is practically null.01:02
SaberX01DarkSector, I installed Xubuntu from scratch on that Laptop, then added Lubuntu later one, Xubuntu is a bit snappier.01:02
DarkSectorOkay thanks01:02
DarkSectordipedup0 http://askubuntu.com/questions/318298/ubuntu-as-miracast-sender-receiver01:02
SaberX01DarkSector, is only 1.3Ghz 512mb RAM and like a 14" XGA display01:03
dipedup0Physicist: better off paying for a good android TV box01:03
airtonixPhysicist: personaly until ubuntu supports WiDI (seriously miracast can go leap off a bridge), i hook up a tf101 via mini hdmi and install xbmc on that01:03
SunMoonStar1I set up a simple HTTP server on my localhost:8000 but I want others to be able to see it (public). I was told at #python to come here because it's an OS question01:04
DarkSectorSunMoonStar1 Apache01:05
DarkSectoror Nginx01:05
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SunMoonStar1It is python using `python -m SimpleHTTPServer`01:05
PhysicistOk. Thank you all. I'm watching Batman now through hdmi cable. Good night of Christmas.01:06
airtonixSunMoonStar1: 1. you need both nginx and uWsgi 2. #ubuntu-server01:06
DarkSectorSunMoonStar1 when you say public, you mean over internet?01:06
DarkSectoror localhost?01:06
DarkSectorI mean local network?01:06
SunMoonStar1yes, over the internet01:06
DarkSectorYeah you need nginx or apache01:06
SunMoonStar1Even if I"m using python SimpleHTTPServer ?01:07
dipedup0SunMoonStar1: open ports.01:07
SaberX01Anyone on the local LAN can already see it by the IP address, but outside the LAN is a whole differetn issue.01:07
Aqua_ReefSunMoonStar1: That's a network question.01:07
airtonixSunMoonStar1: in production you never use simple server. ever!.01:08
munzSunMoonStar1: can u see @ 122.0.0.1:8000 ?01:08
Aqua_ReefSunMoonStar1: Please divert to your router channel #cisco01:08
dipedup0SunMoonStar1: Google myip what's your public IP.01:08
munz* http://127.0.0.1:800001:08
hitsujiTMOanyone know where the available xsessions are defined?01:08
SaberX01You need some kind of DNS record, and a whole in the router to allow traffic to and from the web-server01:08
claudio_Alguem aqui fala portugues?01:08
DarkSectorSunMoonStar1 can do what dipedup0 said, or you could use something like nginx or apache with a static ip from your service provider.01:09
dipedup0SunMoonStar1: that's your local IP. We need your public ip01:09
Aqua_ReefSunMoonStar1: Please divert to your router channel #cisco01:09
petrisHo Ho Ho! Merry Christmas!01:09
SaberX01!pt | claudio_01:09
ubottuclaudio_: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.01:09
hitsujiTMOahh, usr/share/xsessions ... easy enough find :P01:09
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DarkSectorThanks guys, you've been a hoot01:18
Hydr0p0nXanyone able to help me get my sound working through hdmi ?01:18
Hydr0p0nXnvidia HDMI adapter, mcp78s01:18
ChronicMasterBaiHey01:25
ChronicMasterBaiIll be back soon to chat with you guys, was just testing01:26
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iFlipDoes anyone know a terminal command in Ubuntu that will show what files someone is downloaded from my Apache2 WebDAV server?01:30
turtlesoupI have been struggling with getting alsa to produce sounds. I have recently uninstalled it, then re installed it, then forced a reload. Then a reboot. still no sound.01:30
turtlesoupAny advice to get sounds out of my ubuntu?01:31
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hitsujiTMOturtlesoup: do you get anything from: speaker-test -c 201:39
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SchrodingersScatiFlip: cat /var/log/apache2/access.log01:39
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kingbeastturtlesoup, try doing alsamixer in the terminal and make sure everything is unmuted01:40
SchrodingersScatiFlip: cat /var/log/apache2/access.log | more # can pipe it so that you can work with it, but that's the log file, you can also check out the other log files, say if they are having trouble getting to a file.01:40
colbyoanyone in here familiar with LVM and disabling a USB stick keyfile?01:41
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CGI401New ubuntu user question .. what is the linux "equivalent" of Windows' "Program Files" folder?  If there is one.  In other words, where's the typical place that new installs end up?01:47
ponbiki_CGI401: i guess what you're looking for is /bin01:48
ponbiki_or /sbin01:48
ponbiki_yadda yadda01:48
ponbiki_it's not quite the same though01:48
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zykotick9CGI401: it's not so simple.  you can use "dpkg -L foo" to see where files get installed01:48
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CGI401Well, i'm not searching for something.. I'm reading install instructions and it says to "install wherever you want" and i dont want to make a mess of my installation.01:49
LjuLif you're installing something that way, you're making a mess by definition :P01:49
daftykinsCGI401: there's no one path for programs, simply put.01:49
airtonixCGI401: depends what it is. usually system wide user installed stuff goes in /opt/NameOfProgramHere/01:50
CGI401ok01:50
airtonixCGI401: and then it's best to make a system user just for that program to keep it isolated.01:50
CGI401ok let me not be so vague.  I am installing Couch Potato from source .. see this link https://couchpota.to/#linux   .. where would be a good place to put that?01:51
airtonixCGI401: there is instructions around that show you "Best Practice" way to install couch potatoe01:52
SchrodingersScatCGI401: did you see the last LAS?01:52
CGI401LAS?01:52
airtonixCGI401: and it follows the general pattern i just mentioned. 1. create system user that has no login ability and has it's home folder in  /opt/CouchPotatoe/  2.  use that user to install couchpotatoe 3. setup /etc/init/couchpotatoe.conf to run couchpotatoe as that user01:53
airtonixCGI401: and since CouchPotato is a python application, you'll want to use virtualenv to ensure it doesn't conflict with your system python libs01:54
CGI401hm interesting.  you lost me on that last part but i'll look it up .. thank you01:54
airtonixCGI401: it's generally not required, but definitely gives you piece of mind that updating system python won't break couchpotatoe01:55
airtonixCGI401: once you have couchpotato installed, then it will auto update itself using git01:56
CGI401great, thanks01:56
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CGI401I'm having a lot of fun learning linux/ubuntu.. i've tried many times and failed because I was just reading tutorials.  built a new HTPC and forced myself to build it on linux .. and i've had to learn the hard way how to do things, and things are finally starting to stick01:57
Nach0zasdf01:58
Nach0zwhy so much potato01:58
CGI401do not question the potato01:58
airtonixCGI401: cool, but one thing that you should keep in the back of your mind is that most instructions shown how to install something (those couchpotato ones for example) are not generally the best way. They are quick dirty ways to get you introduced to the software.01:58
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CGI401airtonix: where should i turn then?01:59
airtonixminimum required steps to get you invested01:59
airtonixCGI401: first I'd learn how to make upstart jobs (they are in the end a lot simpler than init.d), then I'd learn about installing daemons manually. best practices relating to security and so forth. finally i'd invest some serious time into configuration automation tools like ansible02:00
airtonixbecause manually installing stuff for the 465th time is boring02:01
CGI401heh so far my only experience with /init.d has been stop/start/restart02:02
CGI401so anything simpler than that is like.. not doing anything at all02:03
airtonixinit.d jobs are pretty much bash scripts. so they have lots of room for failure02:03
airtonixupstart has a domain specific language, which greatly simplfies things and reduces the room for failure02:04
airtonixand when i say "failure" i mean errors you introduce as the developer of the job02:04
CGI401question.. if you don't mind.  can you give me the most basic, dumbed down description of what Screen is?  I keep hearing about it but I don't really understand02:05
airtonixCGI401: its like virtual desktops for the terminal02:06
airtonixcombined with remote desktop or vnc02:06
airtonixbut of course devoid of any vga type graphics.02:06
CGI401ok that makes sense02:08
airtonixCGI401: yeah it's great for keeping multiple tail -f /var/some/log running on a remote machine02:08
CGI401multiple tail meaning the logs run simultaneously on the same terminal screen?02:10
airtonixCGI401: yep, but you can switch between the screens just like you can on a gnome desktop with ctrl + alt+ up/down02:12
CGI401oh nice02:12
SchrodingersScatCGI401: screen is nice02:12
airtonixCGI401: but you use ctrl + a + n/p (next/previous)02:13
airtonixCGI401: actually it's not a simulanous key combo, more of a successive combo02:13
airtonixCGI401: there is also something called byobu which has a nicer interface with useful data02:14
SchrodingersScatCGI401: You can split up your window as well, so you can have htop on top of a log or something. http://aperiodic.net/screen/quick_reference02:15
airtonixCGI401: this is the general approach to how i setup "install it yourself" python/ruby/nodejs daemons/web apps: https://gist.github.com/airtonix/811964602:15
CGI401I should have come here sooner02:16
CGI401so much good info, thank you guys02:16
CGI401I've read about that .. creating a system user to run applications .. but I kind of ignored it because it was just adding more confusion to things02:17
binaryhatim getting this--->http://pastebin.com/0DdMCbYB02:21
CGI401so based on your mini tutorial you posted.. I could have done the same thing with my Teamspeak3 server - create a TS3 user, and make it the owner of its own directory02:21
uBUXUBuok skype stuck to my launcher this time02:21
uBUXUBuim running out of room now on my launcher... can i get 2 launchers?02:21
DaemonicApathyuBUXUBu: The default launcher, or a launcher program?02:22
uBUXUBumaybe if the launcher was across the bottom of my widescreen it would be longer thus hold more icons?02:22
tnwnsfwhich is better interms of artwork and overall beauty xubuntu or ubuntu  ?02:23
SchrodingersScat!poll | tnwnsf02:23
ubottutnwnsf: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.02:23
uBUXUBuubuntu with some kubuntu apps seems best02:23
tnwnsfand a more coherent and intergrated interface ?02:23
DaemonicApathyuBUXUBu: In that case, the only way to get multiple/custom-positioned launchers would be to install something like docky or cairo-dock02:24
uBUXUBuah ok02:24
uBUXUBuso i cant move the launcher to the bottom of my widescreen?02:24
DaemonicApathyOf course, you could also just scroll the one you have.02:24
DaemonicApathyNo, that feature was specifically avoided.02:24
uBUXUBudidint know u could scroll it02:24
uBUXUBuso ur saying i can add more icons they just will be hidden till i scroll it?02:25
DaemonicApathyMmhmm.02:25
uBUXUBuwell thats pretty cool02:25
DaemonicApathyThey'll fold at the top and bottom.02:25
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uBUXUBubut i prefer too see my icons especially if the artwork is good02:25
tnwnsfSchrodingersScat, does xubuntu and ubuntu use the same artwork and fonts ?02:25
uBUXUBuoh fold that sounds interesting02:26
tnwnsfbecause debian xfce is UGLY02:26
DaemonicApathyuBUXUBu: Now that you know your options, feel free to play around with it.02:26
uBUXUBuwell i guess ill just keep adding icons and then it will all happen right?02:27
uBUXUBuim full so as soon as i find one more that i need ill try it02:28
uBUXUBuis the ubuntu 1 cloud free?02:28
esdeis this the easiest way to backup 12.04 desktop and restore it to a fresh, updated, 12.04 install for an experience like "nothing ever happened?"?02:29
uBUXUBuok i see 5 gb free cool02:29
uBUXUBuim just really getting into 1204 it just seems so well done02:31
DaemonicApathyesde: What is "this"?02:32
esdeoooops02:32
esdeforgot link http://askubuntu.com/questions/378495/restore-with-back-in-time-after-fresh-install-of-ubuntu02:33
esde:|02:33
SonikkuAmericatnwnsf: Xubuntu has its own artwork.02:33
kungri like 12.04 as well, i like it with Gnome Shell even better02:33
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SonikkuAmericakungr: For most of my 12.04 days I used GNOME Classic.02:33
uBUXUBulotta ppl like gnome ...i liked it but from the moment i saw unity i loved it02:34
DaemonicApathyesde: Seems like it.02:34
nictrasaviosuBUXUBu, Amen brotha!02:34
esdeThanks02:34
DaemonicApathyI would assume some settings need to be retweaked, though.02:34
SonikkuAmerica!gnome | Speaking of GNOME02:35
ubottuSpeaking of GNOME: GNOME was the default desktop environment on Ubuntu up to 10.10. To install the GNOME Shell, type [ sudo apt-get install gnome-shell ] in a !terminal. For the GNOME-based !flavor of Ubuntu, see !ubuntu-gnome02:35
esdeDaemonicApathy, @me?02:35
DaemonicApathyesde: Yes.02:35
nictrasaviossee | !ubuntu-gnome02:35
RocketPenguin123Alright, so i have moved a partition from one hard drive to another, how do i make it so it will boot correctly?02:36
esdelike what would need to change? is there an existing guide that covers what im trying to achieve you could point me to02:36
nictrasavios!ubuntu-gnome | see02:36
ubottusee: Ubuntu GNOME is a supported !flavor of Ubuntu that uses !GNOME as the default desktop environment instead of Unity. For more info or to download, see http://www.ubuntugnome.org/ or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/OneStopPage02:36
DaemonicApathyRocketPenguin123: Install grub.02:36
nictrasaviosWhoops... sometimes my brain is on backwards. It makes parking difficult.02:36
kungrSonikkuAmerica: Ya I liked classic from 7.04 through 10.04. Shell grows on you.02:36
batzyhey guys i plugging in an external hdmi monitor into my xubuntu box, and set the default monitor to it. A bunch of black boxes appeared so i rebooted it. But now when i log in it gets stuck at the login screen and wont load the xfce session02:36
RocketPenguin123DaemonicApathy,  How, exactly? sudo apt-get install grub?02:37
SonikkuAmericakungr: But I'm a GNOME'er now.02:37
batzyIs there anyway i could set it back to the default screen?02:37
DaemonicApathyRocketPenguin123: grub-install /dev/sda(or whatever it happens to be)02:37
RocketPenguin123k thanks!02:38
DaemonicApathynp02:38
RocketPenguin123What if i have multipule partitions though?02:38
DaemonicApathyWhat OS are they?02:38
batzyhey guys i plugging in an external hdmi monitor into my xubuntu box, and set the default monitor to it. A bunch of black boxes appeared so i rebooted it. But now when i log in it gets stuck at the login screen and wont load the xfce session02:38
SonikkuAmericabatzy: Have you tried in #xubuntu ?02:39
nictrasaviosI have to say, from the perspective of a programmer and Engineering/Physics student, Ubuntu is the only distribution I could think of using due to the repos and support. Unity is a wonderful desktop environment, and the window handling is by far its best part. The only thing I would ever change *for myself* is to put the bar on the bottom, and change the icons to text. Keep the window handling the same, the excellent visual cues the sam02:39
nictrasaviose, and the amazing menus the same.02:39
batzySonikkuAmerica: yeah no one is there they said ask here02:39
DaemonicApathynictrasavios: You can disable Unity and use a different dock if you like.02:39
nictrasaviosDaemonicApathy, Lemme finish ;)02:40
DaemonicApathynictrasavios: Of course, that will negate several nice features.02:40
airtonixCGI401: yep, then in your init.d or init up start job, when you launch the software you use the user create specifically for that daemon rather than just use root or (even worse) use your desktop user.02:40
batzySonikkuAmerica: I can login with the guest account too02:40
batzyi think it just set that one users default monitor as the external02:40
kungrnictrasavios: you tried shell?02:40
nictrasaviosSo I did just that, by switching to cinnamon and writing my own extensions. Now it works with multiple monitors... and retains all the things I liked from unity. But for *everyone* else, I always always always reccomend unity.02:41
airtonixCGI401: it's really a preventative measure to limit possible damage in future. if you limit what that daemons user has access to then you can sort of control how much damage it could possibly do.02:41
CGI401airtonix: so.. sorry if this is way off .. but instead of "sudo somethingsomethingsomething", I'd type "couchpotato somethingsomethingsomething" ?02:41
nictrasavioskungr, Yup, worked well. Not better than cinnamon, but it definitely was nice. In the end, reliability and stability brought me to Ubuntu with Cinnamon. Although, I use unity occasionally for showcasing Ubuntu to others.02:42
airtonixCGI401: well since the root user is the one that's executing the upstart or init.d jobs you'd leave off sudo and use su. let me past from a live example from one of my servers.02:42
kungrnictrasavios: really never tried cinnamon. admittedly im a home user and not work related. did you use cinnamon on ubuntu or another distro?02:44
nictrasavioskungr, Before we get yelled at for being off topic, I'll PM you.02:45
bobbycheetahtrying to boot from dvd and all that comes up is what looks like a keyboard icon + a person icon, and it just sits there.02:46
airtonixCGI401: well actually the couchpotato repo has the init.d job you want to use : https://github.com/RuudBurger/CouchPotatoServer/blob/master/init/ubuntu02:46
nictrasaviosIn case you're not sure, to reply type "/msg nictrasavios ...."02:47
airtonixCGI401: notice line 47: https://github.com/RuudBurger/CouchPotatoServer/blob/master/init/ubuntu#L4702:47
CGI401airtonix: ahh i see02:47
airtonixCGI401: so using that you'd create /etc/default/couchpotato and override those variables there.02:48
bobbycheetah13.10 ubuntu-gnome amd 6402:48
ObrienDavebobbycheetah, a small one at the bottom?02:49
CGI401why /etc/default? this is the kind of thing that throws me off .. I guess I just need to learn the purpose of the directories02:49
Guest33983where did they hide the shortcut ctrl+alt+backspace to restart the x server option again?02:49
bobbycheetahyes at bottom of screen.  currently i'm on my imac and burning a dvd for 12.04.3 desktop amd 64 so i can try that next.02:50
gordonjcpGuest33983: it's still there, you need to re-enable it in the x.org config file though02:50
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gordonjcpGuest33983: it's almost never useful02:51
ObrienDavebobbycheetah, could be a bad D/L. did you check the MD5 sum?02:51
airtonixCGI401: /etc/default is the directory where you generally keep configuration defaults.02:51
Guest33983would you know what directory that is in?02:51
bobbycheetahwould be nice if my 4Gb thumb-drive would work.  I've been trying to use netbootin, but it never recognized it.02:51
CGI401airtonix:oh i see.  so.. comparing to windows, that would kind of be like .. the %appdata% directory02:51
bobbycheetahyes i've checked but will check again02:51
airtonixCGI401: because some daemons will allow you to run multiple processes which take their settings from something like /etc/programname/child.conf02:52
airtonixCGI401: isn't %appdata% just users settings?02:52
CGI401airtonix: right.. guess that wouldn't be defaults.  depends on if its installed for a specific user or all users02:52
airtonixCGI401: /etc/default is like "sane defaults, use these settings if there is no system operator defined overrides in /etc/whatever/"02:53
CGI401got it02:53
airtonixCGI401: just remember though that there is no magic. the use of /etc/default/something and /etc/programname/something/something/something/darkside is just a protocol on how to lay out configuration files02:54
airtonixCGI401: i would have a look at how virtual hosts work in nginx and apache with their /etc/nginx/sites-enabled/* and /etc/nginx/sites-available/* and then look at /etc/default/apache202:55
airtonixCGI401: nginx and apache2 on ubuntu generally follow the same configuration setup02:55
CGI401airtonix: got it.  so.. one last question I think, and then i'll leave you alone.  :)  the use of couch potato requires another application in order to function .. utorrent, transmission, etc.   would I create a system user for those as well, or would I give the couchpotato user ownership of it?02:55
airtonixCGI401: yeah you use sabnzbd which allows communication through a RESTful api (confgi gui in couchpotato lets you put the api keys in there)02:56
airtonixCGI401: and yes , you sandbox setup sabnzbd the same way you'd do with couchpotato02:56
CGI401airtonix: well I'm not using usenet, don't subscribe anymore.. but for conversation's sake.. I would create a sabnzbd user?02:57
Nach0zI dunno what couch potato is but I am learning to despise it02:57
airtonixCGI401: yeah. but what you call it is up to you :) i think couchpotato communicates with transmission as well ?02:58
CGI401airtonix: yep02:58
glitsj16bobbycheetah: if unetbootin doesn't work for you, perhaps you can try a native OS X approach .. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx02:59
CGI401airtonix: i was initially confused how couchpotato would communicate with sabnzbd if they are each on their own user accounts, but I guess it's probably communicating over a web interface which sabnzbd exposes02:59
bobbycheetahwill check that out. thx.03:00
airtonixCGI401: yep a restful api endpoint03:00
CGI401airtonix: oh, so that's what you meant lol03:00
CGI401airtonix: thanks so much for all the help.  I think I'm comfortable going from here03:01
airtonixCGI401: http://wiki.sabnzbd.org/api03:01
airtonixCGI401: good luck03:01
Noirosudo apt-get purge programname is the uninstall command, yes?03:03
airtonixNoiro: it's a bit more than just uninstall.03:03
airtonixNoiro: that will also destroy any config files03:03
CGI401does cp command overwrite without asking?03:09
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SchrodingersScatCGI401: last I checked03:10
CGI401crap03:10
glitsj16CGI401: use the -i switch with cp to make it prompt you03:10
CGI401now to figure out how to undo what i just did ..03:11
Hydr0p0nXuh oh03:11
CGI401it is ok.. I copied over a default file .. i think.  not sure if there was ever a file there or not, but something i read led me to believe there was03:12
Hydr0p0nXeh03:13
Hydr0p0nXwhat file and what version ?03:14
CGI401.  /etc/defaults/couchpotato/ubuntu03:16
Hydr0p0nXyea, can't help with that one03:17
Hydr0p0nXsorry03:17
CGI401np03:17
CGI401i am starting over with the git clone03:17
CGI401dunno if that will do anything but only way to find out03:17
CGI401airtonix: broke something I think03:20
airtonixCGI401: that file doesn't exist unless you create it.03:21
airtonixCGI401: and it can just be /etc/default/couchpotato if you want03:21
airtonixCGI401: since that's what the init script is looking for : https://github.com/RuudBurger/CouchPotatoServer/blob/master/init/ubuntu#L1703:22
CGI401airtonix: when you said "so using that you'd create /etc/default/couchpotato and override those variables there. " .. did you mean to copy the init.d job into that directory?  that's what i did, and when I opened it it said "do not edit this file"03:22
CGI401airtonix: so i thought maybe i overrided something03:22
airtonixCGI401: nah the init script goes to /etc/init.d/couchpotato and you create the file "/etc/default/couchpotato"03:23
CGI401airtonix: oh, so /etc/default/couchpotato stays empty until the application puts something in there?03:24
zagfoxhello world03:25
CGI401hi user03:25
airtonixCGI401: https://gist.github.com/airtonix/811993403:25
airtonixCGI401: it's for you to override the default settings that the init script would use. (normally I would be putting something like this in /etc/couchpotato since it's not going to run multiple copies of itself.)03:26
CGI401airtonix: OH.... so /etc/default/couchpotato itself is a configuration file, not a folder?03:27
CGI401this is so confusing03:28
airtonixCGI401: yeah. if you look at ilne 17 of the init script, it's also not required.03:28
airtonixline*03:28
CGI401airtonix: got it.. thank you03:28
airtonixCGI401: not sure if you already know this, but you also need to register it to the initv daemon: sudo chmod +x /etc/init.d/couchpotato && sudo update-rc.d couchpotato defaults03:29
airtonixCGI401: that will tell the initv system that it needs to run it on startup03:30
CGI401airtonix: yea that is in the instructions on CP's website.. more or less03:30
CGI401airtonix: but thanks to you i now know && i used to run two commands in one line03:30
frybyehi folks - happy christmass.. enjoye your ubuntu..03:32
colbyoI'm trying to see whats going on in my boot process, it's just stopping after the hardware check, but it's not giving me any failures or notifications. Is there a way to see more of whats going on?03:35
wo0thi, merry xmas everyone03:36
colbyoBooting with 'debug text noplymouth'.03:37
kingbeastwo0t, merry xmas03:37
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bobbycheetahglitsj16: is the "create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx"  for if I want to boot my mac with it?03:51
glitsj16bobbycheetah: it's instructions for making a bootable ubuntu live usb on a mac03:52
bobbycheetahok.  step 9 says to run diskutil eject /dev/disk2 - but that is not mounted b/c of step 7.03:53
bobbycheetahcan i just pop it out and try it on my other pc now?03:53
glitsj16let me load that page again, just a moment please03:53
bobbycheetahok. step 8 was succesful03:53
glitsj16bobbycheetah: yes that's how i understand it, if step 8 worked basically your good to try booting it03:55
bobbycheetahok. will give it a go. thx03:55
glitsj16bobbycheetah: fingers crossed, goodluck03:56
xubuntunice03:56
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Xjdmbtw, volume is turned off by default03:57
Xjdmthat and the volume widget doesnt work03:57
glitsj16Xjdm: on what version ?03:58
Xjdmthe latest, v13.1003:58
Xjdmi read a review comparing performace of L, X and vanilla Ubuntu03:58
CGI401airtonix: sorry.. me again.  i ran sudo chmod +x /etc/init.d/couchpotato && sudo update-rc.d couchpotato defaults  like you (and the CP instructions) said.. and it said it was added to startup.. rebooted the server and it didn't start.  Put APP_PATH = /usr/local/couchpotato in defaults dir .. did i miss something?03:58
Xjdmso i decided to use Xubuntu03:58
glitsj16Xjdm: i believe for xubuntu 13.10 that's a known bug, let me check my bookmarks03:58
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glitsj16Xjdm: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2182038&p=12822062#post12822062 might revive your broken sound indicator03:59
Xjdmthe audio is also turned off by default04:00
glitsj16Xjdm: that might be related, not sure .. the indicator might be stuck in mute so once you get it back you can try unmuting04:01
Xjdmim using the live version to try it out04:02
Xjdmi like it so far, it's very fast04:02
glitsj16it sure is, always liked xubuntu, didn't install the latest yet but tested the live cd04:03
glitsj16that's how i know about the sound indicator bug04:04
Xjdmim testing memory usage and overall performance and responsiveness04:05
glitsj16the one thing i miss on live versions is a user-friendly way to activate proprietary graphics drivers too, but i guess that's wishfull thinking ..04:09
DaemonicApathyKeep in mind, live versions will always be a bit more prone to latency, due to the difference between ODD/USB/SATA HDD speeds.04:09
tuxguyHow do I get virtualbox puel in 13.10 ?04:10
Xjdmthis thing is running pretty quickly04:11
Xjdmgoing to due a bit more research first though04:12
Xjdmfirefox is such a memory hog04:12
Xjdmthere needs to be Firefox Lite04:12
Xjdmwhich is what firefox was suppose to be to begin with04:12
DaemonicApathyWith each tab running as a separate process, memory usage can get pretty high.04:14
XjdmWhy does running each tab in a seperate process use more memory?04:17
Xjdmmy web browser shouldnt use 1.5GB of RAM04:17
Xjdmthat is insane04:17
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Guest21304test04:27
SchrodingersScatGuest21304: test received04:27
batzyWhat a lovely username.04:27
bobbycheetahglitsj16: it worked. thx for your help!04:31
such_coinsI need some urgent help copying files to a read-only flash drive. Can anyone help?04:32
such_coinsoh nm04:32
such_coinsgot it :P04:32
glitsj16bobbycheetah: nice to hear that , enjoy the fresh system04:33
such_coinsthanks anyways!04:33
airtonixCGI401: is /usr/local/couchpotato where you installed it to?04:33
CGI401airtonix: yeah .. when I try to run "service couchpotato start" it says: /etc/init.d/couchpotato: 2: /etc/default/couchpotato: APP_PATH: not found04:34
airtonixCGI401: https://github.com/RuudBurger/CouchPotatoServer/blob/master/init/ubuntu#L5104:34
CGI401airtonix: inside default/couchpotato is APP_PATH = /usr/local/couchpotato/04:34
airtonixCGI401: oops, remove the spaces04:34
Mike9863What's the best way to identify connections coming from a DoS attack on a webserver?04:34
CGI401airtonix:you mean APP_PATH=blah  instead of APP_PATH = blah ?04:35
airtonixCGI401: yeah04:35
CGI401airtonix:ohh... thanks, will try04:35
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airtonixCGI401: also if you're using /etc/default/couchpotato then you want to override the second variable listed in the init script04:36
airtonixCGI401: ie : https://github.com/RuudBurger/CouchPotatoServer/blob/master/init/ubuntu#L51 << you set CP_HOME instead of APP_PATH04:37
airtonixCGI401: since it's saying " APP_PATH will be CP_HOME (if it exists) otherwise use the string "/opt/couchpotato/"04:37
CGI401airtonix: Ohh.. that explains the 2nd error I was getting then, I think04:38
CGI401start-stop-daemon: unable to chdir() to /opt/couchpotato/ (No such file or directory)04:38
q_a_z_steveIs there a way I can still get into 12.04.3 Desktop on my 2009 Macbook Pro if I'm seeing this: http://picpaste.com/Xp3XnjRM.jpg04:39
q_a_z_steveI was able to use boot options for the liveCD to see this. All I knew how to do was turn off quiet and splash...04:39
airtonixq_a_z_steve: which macbook pro? there are like 7 versions of it04:40
airtonixit's crazy04:40
q_a_z_steveairtonix: Mid 2009 15"04:40
airtonixHey lets create a simple "not computer" and then create a bunch of difference versions of it, and then call them all the same name.... /thumbs-up04:41
airtonixq_a_z_steve: so you don't have to use uEFI then ?04:41
q_a_z_steveI don't know what that is.04:42
CGI401airtonix: yay, new error .. start-stop-daemon: unable to set gid to 999 (Operation not permitted)   .. do I need to set RUN_AS as root or something?04:42
airtonixq_a_z_steve: i was under the impression that uEFI was required. so i've always used something like refit04:42
airtonixor was it refind?04:42
q_a_z_steveto boot a liveCD?04:42
airtonixCGI401: did you chown couchpotato:couchpotato /usr/local/couchpotato -R ?04:42
q_a_z_steveI probably need some such, because I want to say even a stamped 7.10 CD I had didn't work.04:43
airtonixq_a_z_steve: have you looked at the ubuntu wiki? there are quite a few pages there about macosx04:43
CGI401airtonix:sure did04:44
q_a_z_steveI haven't because I wasn't sure where to start, with those drm lines or something else.04:44
FluxDHi, I have been trying to install ubuntu 13.10 on an ssd with usb install nd whatever I do, it will boot back with a grub error. I have tried with uefi on and off. Please help. grub reinstall didn't work nor did boot-repair04:44
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q_a_z_steveairtonix: I did download the 64bit Mac version of the iso, if that helps.04:48
airtonixq_a_z_steve: definitely. can't do much without that. but you should read the help/wiki pages. it's been a long time since i bothered to touch a apple product.04:48
q_a_z_steveI'm looking...04:49
q_a_z_stevewhere can I find which number (11,1) or whatever my macbook pro is, to further align myself with how these are going to be listed?04:50
airtonixCGI401: i'm testing this out.04:50
q_a_z_steveinstalled OS is mavericks... I'm still not able to see anything that can even get me started.04:52
CGI401airtonix: OK.  Here's some info:  https://gist.github.com/anonymous/695be8a011e6029f37e104:52
airtonixq_a_z_steve: i'm pretty sure the first think you need to do is get http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/ running.04:53
airtonixthing*04:53
airtonixCGI401: and output of : ls -al /usr/local/couchpotato04:54
q_a_z_steveI have had rEFIt before, I'm remembering, but I have since wiped my harddrive. I assume it went with.04:55
CGI401airtonix: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6f1da8779e277603dc1f04:55
q_a_z_steveairtonix: 5,3 That's what I have. Are there sites that explain when EFI comes into existence/necessity? Which determines that, the hardware, or the software I'm trying to boot?05:01
airtonixCGI401: https://gist.github.com/airtonix/811993405:02
airtonixCGI401: looks like you need to move files up a level05:02
BackTrack_r5php5-curl: Depends: php5-common (= 5.3.2-1ubuntu4.9) but 5.3.2-1ubuntu4.17 is to be installed05:05
BackTrack_r5im running backtrack, how can i update php5-common to 5.3.205:05
CGI401airtonix: just to be clear, are you asking me to go through each of those steps? including placing it in /opt/?05:06
bazhang!backtrack | BackTrack_r505:06
ubottuBackTrack_r5: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), kali-linux (#kali-linux), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (now end of life - see kali-linux)05:06
BackTrack_r5hmmmmm05:06
BackTrack_r5what are you saying?05:06
q_a_z_steveairtonix: I should mention that on the 7.10 CD no matter whether I remove quiet and splash I immediately get kicked out to BusyBox.05:06
airtonixCGI401: no, it's just there to show you what you've done different. the main thing is that you have /usr/local/couchpotato/CouchPotato/couchpotato.py when it should just be /usr/local/couchpotato/couchpotato.py05:07
airtonixCGI401: also github just ate my gist. :<05:08
CGI401airtonix: actually, it's /usr/local/couchpotato/CouchPotatoServer/couchpotato.py .. the CouchPotatoServer directory is included in the git05:09
spvenskomerry christmas05:09
airtonixCGI401: nope. that what git does if you don't provide a destination.05:09
CGI401airtonix: oooooh well that explains it.  that's what CP's website says in the instructions... no destination https://couchpota.to/#linux05:10
lotuspsychjemerry xmass: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6628415/05:10
CGI401airtonix: that was the first thing I did before I came on IRC.. so that explains a lot05:10
airtonixyou could just change the CP_HOME to point at the folder that holds couchpotato.py05:11
liuleim05:15
BackTrack_r5so is kali-linux the backtrack replacement?05:16
CGI401airtonix: nope.. still same thing.  https://gist.github.com/anonymous/c4dabf84dd4af1484cd705:16
Apolloanyone have some good recommendations on tutorials for the terminal?05:16
Apolloi think i found a list somewhere on the ubuntu site but it is numerous.05:16
bazhanghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal Apollo05:17
lotuspsychje!kali | BackTrack_r505:18
ubottuBackTrack_r5: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), kali-linux (#kali-linux), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)05:18
Apolloso is the ubuntu site pretty much the best source for learning the terminal then?05:19
Apolloi guess so, i wish i could find that link to a bunch of tutorials though damn05:19
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DaemonicApathyThis one?: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal05:20
bazhang!rute | Apollo there's this05:20
ubottuApollo there's this: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com05:20
bazhang!manual | Apollo and this05:21
ubottuApollo and this: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/05:21
bazhangApollo, for bash scripting, there's http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/05:22
bazhangand freenode has a channel #bash as well05:22
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CGI401airtonix: might have gotten it.  i added CP_USER=couchpotato in the /etc/default/couchpotato, then ran "sudo service couchpotato start" and it took. even though CP_USER was set to couchpotato in the init.d file05:24
airtonixCGI401: https://gist.github.com/airtonix/812036505:24
airtonixCGI401: i think your start-stop error is related to something else05:25
CGI401airtonix: it worked!  rebooted server and it started.05:25
Rourickhello :)05:25
Rouricknew user here would u recommend 12.04lts  or 13.10?05:26
lotuspsychjeRourick: i would go for the 12.04 lts05:26
airtonixCGI401: can you access it via browser: http://servier.ip.or.name.local:5050/05:26
Rourickhey thanks will do05:27
lotuspsychjeRourick: depends on your needs of course, lts will be 5 years support05:27
lotuspsychjeRourick: and soon you will be able to upgrade to 14.0405:27
DaemonicApathy12.04 will be supported longer, and require less upkeep. 13.10 will have newer features, and lead you into the next version, which will also be LTS. Personally, I'd go with 12.04 for now.05:27
Rourickok ty05:27
uBUXUBuhow do i reset my top panel i cant get at my power off icon top right anymore?05:28
lotuspsychjeRourick: and welcome to the ubuntu community!05:28
CGI401airtonix: yea, web interface worked after server reboot05:28
airtonixCGI401: actually i can't remember which port it is05:28
Rourick:)05:28
uBUXUButhere used to be a terminal command to rest the panels05:29
uBUXUBucant recall it05:29
CGI401airtonix: for some strange reason, it required me to have CP_USER=couchpotato in etc/default/couchpotato  .. even though the init.d script has RUN_AS=${CP_USER-couchpotato}05:29
lotuspsychjeuBUXUBu: lightdm reset maybe? not sure05:30
darius93does mariadb seem slower than mysql?05:30
ApolloDaemonicApathy, no not that tutorial, like it was a page with 20-30 or so hyperlinked pages to go to for tuts.05:30
uBUXUBuin terminal u mean?05:30
lotuspsychjeApollo: there are also good ubuntu ebooks that you can download free05:31
lotuspsychjeuBUXUBu: maybe here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/125662/how-to-reset-gnome-panel05:32
uBUXUBudammit my power button icon os too far off screen weird05:32
Apolloubottu, thankyou, some of those links i did not have and will have to investigate, im sure they will help.05:32
ubottuApollo: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:32
lotuspsychjeuBUXUBu: maybe you just need a resolution fix?05:33
CGI401airtonix: going to use what I learned to attempt to install transmission under its own user account .. can't thank you enough for all the help.  I learned a lot05:33
airtonixCGI401: good stuff05:33
Apollobazhang, im not sure what u mean by !rute and !manual, is that some sort of referment to the terminal man and info command?05:34
lotuspsychjeApollo: man pages are specific manuals to a package, to help you with commands05:35
airtonixApollo: he was using the bot to link you to wiki pages05:35
uBUXUBuim screwd05:36
bazhangdocumentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com   Apollo05:36
lotuspsychjeuBUXUBu: plz mind your language05:36
uBUXUBucant reset that top panel?05:36
uBUXUBuhow do i turn this off?05:38
lotuspsychjeuBUXUBu: did you try command from the url i linked you?05:38
uBUXUBuyes of course05:38
uBUXUBunow the bottom of xchat is almost gone05:39
uBUXUBuok got that back05:39
uBUXUBubut my power off is gone05:39
uBUXUBuwill i hurt it of i crash it05:40
Smedlesafternoon all05:41
Smedleswondering if anyone can help me diagnose an issue I periodically experience with my Ubuntu Server running 13.10...05:41
Smedlesevery few weeks I experience issues where machine on the local LAN cannot connect to the server using it's internal LAN address - no matter which port - whether it be ssh, samba, webmin, http, etc05:42
Smedlesaround the same time, server connections over the internet momentarily drop out (so quasselcore connection drops out)05:42
Smedlessometimes these just go away, others I need to reboot the server then everything is good.05:42
SmedlesAny ideas?05:43
airtonixSmedles: bad network card?05:43
airtonixSmedles: hook up a monitor to the server and have : tail /var/log/syslog -f running05:43
Smedlesairtonix: i guess that's something easy I could test - not sure what free pci ports I have on that box tho (its a N40L microsoerver)05:44
airtonixSmedles: not familiar with that.05:44
Smedleshttp://www8.hp.com/au/en/products/proliant-servers/product-detail.html?oid=4248009#!tab=features05:44
airtonixSmedles: i've experienced a problem where problematic drives will cause faults and then cause dbus to drop out which then takes out a bunch of other services like ssh05:45
Smedlesairtonix: but I can connect to ssh via external IP jst not internal05:45
Smedlesso the daemon is still running05:45
airtonixtime to eliminate hardware then05:46
DaemonicApathyI keep thinking I'm being called...05:46
airtonixSmedles: i'd head over to #ubuntu-server and ask there on idle mode05:46
Smedlesonly unusual thing in syslog from around the time I had the issue yesterday is:05:49
SmedlesDec 24 15:30:09 NAS avahi-daemon[917]: Got SIGTERM, quitting.05:49
Smedlesfollowed by some other errors05:50
Smedlesbut network is a good though - appreciate the tip05:50
SetiAmonHey can anyone tell me why every single one of my games my mouse resets into the center of the screen constantly making gaming impossiable05:51
bazhangSetiAmon, games on wine?05:54
SetiAmonyep05:54
SetiAmonwell i think so05:54
SetiAmonamnesia05:54
bazhangcheck the appdb and ask in #winehq05:54
bazhang!appdb05:54
ubottuThe Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help05:54
SetiAmongaming on linux is such a pain05:55
SaberX01While it's possible to use wine, game performance id poor at best. If at all possible, use native Linux games.05:56
SaberX01*is05:56
SetiAmonstill get odd satisfaction from playing games or anything on linux.i just went back to it after windows f'd05:57
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ItsMeLennyhello, ive just downloaded ubuntu 13.10 64bit live and put it onto a usb stick, and everytime it boots it just boots into this terminal screen06:15
ItsMeLennysome other fs06:15
duythinhthi06:16
ItsMeLennysome sort of fs, i forget what it was, but it was just a terminal prompt06:17
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ItsMeLennyany help would be appreciated06:22
bazhangbusybox?06:22
lotuspsychjeItsMeLenny: did you have same issue on 12.04?06:22
ItsMeLennybazhang, thats the one!06:22
ItsMeLennylotuspsychje, no, never encountered it in my life06:22
bazhangItsMeLenny, how did you put it on usb stick06:22
ItsMeLennyusb-creator06:22
bazhangItsMeLenny, did it ever work?06:23
ItsMeLennywhen i tried doing it via dd it wouldnt even get recognised06:23
ItsMeLennybazhang, usb-creator has worked for me, it worked when i did 13.10 i386 on a laptop06:23
ItsMeLennydd used to work for me also06:24
lotuspsychjeItsMeLenny: can you try enter grub and choose kernel in recoverymode?06:24
ItsMeLennylotuspsychje, it's the live cd, it's not installed06:24
ItsMeLennylive cd on usb06:24
lotuspsychjeItsMeLenny: so at wich part you get the terminal?06:25
ItsMeLennyi see the purple screen with the man and the keyboard down the bottom, then it goes into busybox06:25
lotuspsychjeItsMeLenny: uefi machine?06:25
ItsMeLennypardon?06:26
lotuspsychjeItsMeLenny: what was default Os on the machine you try to install?06:26
lotuspsychjeItsMeLenny: w7? w8?06:27
ItsMeLennylotuspsychje, none, i built the computer myself06:28
ItsMeLennyit's one i've had for a few years with various upgrades over the years06:28
ItsMeLennyi wasnt going to upgrade ubuntu from 12.04 to 14.04, but i completely screwed the system, it's barely operating06:29
ItsMeLenny:P06:29
lotuspsychjeItsMeLenny: hmm strange, maybe try ubuntu 12.04 on stick, see what it does for your machine?06:29
ItsMeLennyits worked06:29
ItsMeLennythats what i have on now06:29
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ItsMeLennyand various version before have worked also06:29
ItsMeLennybeen on ubuntu since about 706:29
ItsMeLennyor 806:30
lotuspsychjeItsMeLenny: re-install 12.04 clean maybe, im waiting 14.04 also06:30
lotuspsychje13.10 got lots of issues with screens06:30
lotuspsychjemany users come here with blank reboots06:30
ItsMeLennyyeah, i was thinking of it, but i upgraded half the system files anyway to quantel stuff, and i need later kernels thahn what 12.04 uses06:30
ItsMeLennyoh really?06:31
lotuspsychjeim not saying its unfixable right06:31
ItsMeLennyshould i go 13.04 then06:31
ItsMeLennyyeah06:31
lotuspsychje13.04 is rocksolid im on it, but support end almost06:31
ItsMeLenny12.04 kernels are too old for me tho, with some of my hardware06:31
ItsMeLennythat's alright, i'll upgrade by support end06:31
ItsMeLennyor at least a couple of months after06:32
ItsMeLennyok, i'll download the 3rd cd for the day :P maybe i should grab alternate instead of live06:33
ItsMeLennyor maybe i might just try 13.10 with a different usb stick, could the usb stick be the rpoblem?06:33
imghostlotuspsychje, "13.10 got lots of issues with screens" please support this statement give us some details :)06:34
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lotuspsychjeItsMeLenny: i dont think so mate06:35
lotuspsychjeItsMeLenny: as you see the purple screen06:35
ItsMeLennywhered the other 'disks' program go, this one is rubbish06:36
lotuspsychjeimghost: im just observing similar issues on 13.1006:36
ItsMeLennylotuspsychje, i'll give it a go, if all else fails i'll grab 13.0406:36
lotuspsychjeItsMeLenny: ill be on 13.04 until 14.04 comes out, even unsupported06:37
ItsMeLennylotuspsychje, yeah i'd do the same if i installed 13.0406:38
ItsMeLennyi'll still upgrade to 14.04 when it comes out regardless tho06:38
imghostlotuspsychje, thats not an answer mate, actually graphics cards of some machines causing the problems and so upstreams kernel is not able to load the correct modules on boot and hence they get "black screen"06:38
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lotuspsychjeimghost: im just saying i see alot of 13.10 comming by here mate...06:39
imghostlotuspsychje, ok, :)06:39
lotuspsychjeimghost: i never said he cant install it06:39
lotuspsychjeeveryone may do what he likes06:39
SaberX01I do too, seems 13.10 not as stable on some platforms as allot of folks may think.06:40
ItsMeLennyyeah, i gathered that, i'm keeping the warning in mind, but i'll cross my fingers06:40
imghostok06:40
ItsMeLennyoh, now its not as stable?06:40
lotuspsychjeyes its stable06:41
lotuspsychjeubuntu is always stable06:41
ItsMeLenny:P06:41
rourickhi :) how can i add items 2 panel 12.0406:42
ItsMeLennymaybe it was that usb drive, i'll try this one, and hope, if it was the usb drive i wont be appearing in for a few hours06:42
ItsMeLennyif it wasnt i'll probably be in in the next 10 minutes06:42
ItsMeLennythanks for the help, and thanks lotuspsychje06:42
lotuspsychjeItsMeLenny: hope you can fix your issue06:43
ItsMeLennyme too ;) :P06:43
lotuspsychjeItsMeLenny: normally when you see purple screen setup, usb is fine06:43
ItsMeLennyyeah, i thought so to, but then it came up with busybox06:43
lotuspsychjeItsMeLenny: how bout F1 shows any errors?06:44
SaberX01I suppose it depends on what your using it for, if one is always changing, upgrading and such, doesn't matter much, but if you want a production Image, I think the LTS image is still the best.06:44
lotuspsychjeSaberX01: the 'best' is very relative06:44
lotuspsychjeSaberX01: it all depends what the users wants06:44
ItsMeLennySaberX01, yeah, i just need a newer kernel than 12.04, and considering id upgraded it in the system and other stuff, yet not the overall system, if you know what i mean06:45
ItsMeLennylotuspsychje, i'll try F1 if it happens again06:45
lotuspsychjeSaberX01: so in many cases 13.10 will do forfill one needs06:45
lotuspsychjeItsMeLenny: F1 at purple boot screen06:45
ItsMeLennyah06:45
SaberX01well yes, it is, relative to 12.10 thru 13.10, so yes, relative to what's available.06:45
ItsMeLenny;) i'll see06:45
SaberX01And like I said, it depends on the image purpose, but from a sys-admin standpoint, constant change is not good thing.06:47
lotuspsychjeSaberX01: for many cases lts is a good choice06:48
SaberX01Outside of testing and development, I don't see a use for a short term support image, but that's from a real production standpoint where stability actually means something. I dont think my CFO would like it if I said, sorry ole boy have to re-image you box today to keep up with the next point release.06:52
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lotuspsychjeSaberX01: well, i very liked 13.04 and rocksolid for me06:52
ItsMeLennylotuspsychje, no dice06:53
ItsMeLennyalthough this time it actually came to the purple screen with writing06:54
lotuspsychjeItsMeLenny: what happened06:54
ItsMeLennyi selected install ubuntu06:54
ItsMeLennyand then it went to busybox06:54
SaberX01Then there's things like Change Management Compliance and Sarbanes Oxley to contest with.06:54
ItsMeLennyintramfs06:54
SaberX01*contend06:54
lotuspsychjeItsMeLenny: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/124158906:55
ubottuUbuntu bug 1241589 in Ubuntu "ubuntu 13.10 unable to boot on live usb (busy box - initramfs)" [Undecided,Confirmed]06:55
ItsMeLennylotuspsychje, i was trying to search just now for something like that, i'll have  aread06:56
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ItsMeLennylotuspsychje, this seems a bit much https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1241589/comments/1706:57
ubottuUbuntu bug 1241589 in Ubuntu "ubuntu 13.10 unable to boot on live usb (busy box - initramfs)" [Undecided,Confirmed]06:57
lotuspsychjeItsMeLenny: what kind of hd inside?06:58
ItsMeLennylooks like something to do with having multiple hard drives06:58
ItsMeLennyi have 306:58
ItsMeLennyone western digital, 2 seagates06:58
ItsMeLennythe WD is my system HDD and it's on the gigabyte sata ports06:59
ItsMeLennywonder if its something with acpi or what not06:59
lotuspsychjeItsMeLenny: what you have ide or ahci?07:00
lotuspsychjeItsMeLenny: maybe try 1 hd only and ubuntu setup again07:00
ItsMeLennylotuspsychje, ahci, oh and i also have a cd drive07:01
ItsMeLennyno floppy tho, i got rid of it07:01
lotuspsychjeItsMeLenny: one guy from bug did try cd, didnt solve07:01
ItsMeLennyyeah i think i will try it with just 1 hdd plugged in, which kind of annoys me, but is faster than downloading 13.04 as that would probably take me 2 hours07:02
ItsMeLennyaussie internet07:02
ItsMeLennythanks again, thanks for linking me to that page, i will go try it07:02
ItsMeLennycya07:02
shawn1963Hello All.  Anyone get the "input not supported" error upon boot?07:04
shawn1963is anyone here07:05
shawn1963or am I typing in invisible font?07:06
glitsj16shawn1963: hi, can't say i've seen that boot error07:07
glitsj16what input device isn't supported ? do you know?07:07
shawn1963I'm not sure07:07
shawn1963because it was working just fine07:08
glitsj16anything less cryptic in boot.log or dmesg?07:08
SaberX01what HW and which version of Ubuntu may be useful info.07:08
shawn1963I am dual booted with Windows 8.1 and changed the resolution in WIndows.  Now I get this message on my screen saying "input not supported".07:08
batzyhi.07:09
shawn1963I don't get a log on screen.  As soon as I choose Zorin from the boot menu it goes right to black and the message.07:09
shawn1963sorry can't type that fast/07:09
shawn1963.07:09
batzyshawn1963, what's up?07:10
shawn1963uhmm 13.10 is the base.  Zorin Core 707:10
SuperLagWhat's the proper term for the area on the menu bar that's at the right, where the clock and other icons go? System tray is too Windows-like. :)07:10
shawn1963I can boot into live from the usb, hence I'm here. System Gadgets (tongue in cheek)07:11
SuperLagI'm curious to know, if you open up an app that puts an icon there, that has a transparent background on its own, but shows up on the menu bar with a beige background... is that a Unity bug?07:11
batzy'too windows like'07:12
batzyyet i use ubuntu07:12
shawn1963batzy:  Did you get me description or was it too vague.07:13
SuperLagbatzy: the *term* is what it's called in Windows. "system tray"07:13
batzyshawn1963, you're saying like07:13
batzyokay wait07:13
batzyyou changed the windows resolution right?07:13
shawn1963yep07:13
SuperLagbatzy: So I'm saying I'm guessing that's not what it's called in Ubuntu.07:13
batzythen you logged on ubuntu and it says not supported?07:14
shawn1963nope never got to log on.  went right to a little box floating around the monitor that said "input not supported" which I am taking is the resolution is out of whack for Ubuntu.07:15
linuxlite1969hi07:15
linuxlite1969 how can i unistall a broken dependency?07:15
shawn1963And I was saying that I can log in using the LIVE USB, try me feature, hence I'm here.  WIndows IRC sucks. :-P07:16
linuxlite1969i did everything google is  telling but i cant remove fmit07:16
SaberX01linuxlite1969, what have you tried thus far, worked failed?07:16
linuxlite1969force all purge remove auto remove07:17
SuperLagbatzy: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/913175/tomighty_icon.png07:17
batzyshawn1963, you're on a desktop right? and why type of connection is the monitor?07:18
shawn1963desktop and VGA07:18
batzySuperLag, you mean the panel?07:18
shawn1963batzy: should I be using the : between me and you?07:19
linuxlite1969http://pastebin.com/VpMxNCGP <SaberX01> take alook at this bro07:19
batzythe what?07:19
SuperLagbatzy: yeah. Just forgot what the right thing to call it is. See the left-most icon, how its background does not match the rest of the panel?07:19
batzySuperLag, is that the highlight color when it's being selected or hovered over?07:20
batzyI use xubuntu so idk07:20
batzyxubuntu and ubuntu server07:20
shawn1963sorry.  Your typing to me comes up red I was assuming it was because of the colon.07:20
batzyshawn1963, and you're saying that the same monitor is saying input not supported07:21
SuperLagbatzy: that color persists when I select one of the other icons on the panel.07:21
batzywait, when does it give you that message?07:21
SaberX01linuxlite1969, seems you have an issue getting rid of Qt4 .. not really sure how you'd purge that aside form what you've already tried.07:21
linuxlite1969<SaberX01> so how should i get rid of this?07:22
shawn1963yes thats what I'm saying.  I only have the one monitor.  It works fine when I'm using Ubuntu off the live usb, fine when in windows.  But when I try to boot up in the installed Ubuntu from the boot menu I get the "message".07:22
SaberX01linuxlite1969, I don't know  actually.07:23
linuxlite1969<SaberX01> anyway thanks07:24
batzyshawn1963, okay when you boot into ubuntu, right after the bios boots press the down arrow key and then enter. A menu should appear, I want you to boot into 'run in safe graphics mode'07:24
shawn1963ok I can get to that.  Thats on my boot menu already.07:24
batzyyeah do that07:25
katinthehat#names ubuntu07:26
shawn1963I get a menu that gives me "clean""Dpkg" boot to safe graphics" mode, etc.  I get the "message" even when I use the " safe" mode.  I've tried enabling networking and then dpkg but nothing worked.07:26
katinthehat(sorry guys, I'm new to IRC and exploring)07:26
batzyso boot into safe graphics mode gives you the same error/07:26
shawn1963yep07:27
shawn1963can I change the resolution from a prompt?07:27
shawn1963I have the option to drop to root.07:27
batzyyes you can07:27
shawn1963have pen will write unless it would be easier if its a lot of code to send me an email?07:28
linuxlite1969 how can i unistall a broken dependency?07:31
linuxlite1969i did everything google is  telling but i cant remove fmit07:32
batzyshawn1963, sec07:32
batzyshawn1963, gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub07:32
shawn1963no probs.  I appreciate the help07:32
batzytell me what it says07:32
batzyor shawn1963 better yet07:34
batzypastebinit -i /etc/default/grub sorry it's late im not fully functional07:34
SaberX01linuxlite1969, Only thing I can suggest is, forcing the purge:  sudo dpkg --purge --force-all <package>07:35
shawn1963hang on a sec07:35
linuxlite1969what does it do anyway? SaberX0107:35
XATRIXHi, SaberX01 yesterday told me not to use directly root acctount07:36
XATRIXCan i use at least sudo -s, as for the permanent root environment , during the server initial setup07:37
SaberX01XATRIX, Yep, I'll tell you the same thing today too, using the root account is nto wise.07:37
SaberX01XATRIX, It'd your box, use it anyway you wish.07:37
SaberX01*It's07:37
SaberX01It's makes no sense to install a sudo based Linux distro, only to try and run it as a root base, why not just use Centos, Slack or whatever other root based system.07:39
shawn1963http://pastebin.com/jK87ZLTa07:39
shawn1963sorry had to sign in.07:39
XATRIXSaberX01: just to save my time and verves for initial setup07:40
shawn1963batzy, I sent the link to you.  How do I send it directly to you so?07:40
XATRIXLater on, i'll use sudo as i should07:41
SaberX01Have fun07:41
shawn1963batzy, when I use the "tab" key does my message show in red on your end?07:41
batzyshawn1963, i got it sec07:41
shawn1963k07:41
batzyshawn1963, just when you type my nick it does07:41
shawn1963batzy, k07:42
batzyokay shawn1963 type that command i gave you before, the gedit one07:42
batzywhere it says #GRUB_GFXMODE=640x48007:42
batzytake out the # and save it07:42
batzyor shawn1963 sudo nano /etc/default/grub actually cuz you have no GUI07:43
shawn1963batzy, ok I'm a bit confused.  should I enable the 640x480 line or should I type in the terminal the command you just gave me?07:44
batzyif you type the command i just gave you07:45
batzyand get rid of the hash07:45
batzythe command i just gave you is an editor so you can remove the hash07:45
linuxlite1969dpkg: warning: there's no installed package matching fmit <SaberX01>07:45
shawn1963batz07:46
batzyyeah?07:47
shawn1963batzy, gotcha.  It works both ways.07:47
batzyokay yeah07:47
batzythen do07:47
SaberX01linuxlite1969, sckip it and go tot he next package you want to remove ..07:47
batzysudo update-gru07:47
batzysudo update-grub07:47
SaberX01skip07:47
shawn1963the hash is gone. ..k ..it gave me a "cow" error.07:48
shawn1963batzy, /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of /cow.07:48
batzywhen you try to update?07:48
shawn1963I'm at a live prompt so I am not at a "root".07:49
shawn1963grrr07:49
batzycan you su root?07:49
shawn1963I can but there is no "user" as I am running off a LiveUSB in "trial" mode.  Only way for me to get here to IRC land.07:50
linuxlite1969?technically its a dependency not a package,will it still work> <SaberX01>07:51
XATRIXSaberX01: seems like i do something wrong07:52
batzyOh..07:52
XATRIXBut i have 50 minutes installed system. It's a brand new one. And:07:53
XATRIXxatrix@vox1-ua:~$ sudo service networking restart07:53
XATRIXstop: Unknown instance:07:53
XATRIXnetworking stop/waiting07:53
batzyokay well shawn1963 did you change the file of the live session or of your disk?07:53
XATRIXI added only definition to /etc/network/interfaces07:53
XATRIXfor eth007:53
shawn1963batzy, the live system.07:53
SaberX01linuxlite1969, yes, I think, a dep is also a package in it's own right.07:53
batzyshawn1963, well that's not going to do much, do you mind if I query you to fix this then?07:54
XATRIXSaberX01: http://ur1.ca/g97xk07:54
XATRIXWhat's wrong with it ?07:54
shawn1963batzy, but I wrote down what you told me and will try it from the "real" system.  What do you me by query?07:54
shawn1963you mean like remote?07:55
XATRIXI don't understand what's wrong with it, i even removed interface settings added by me07:55
XATRIXStill the same crap07:55
XATRIXI think i have to move from LTS -> 13.07:55
aleksejs_I don't remember exactly who recomended Deluge for me yesterday, but http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpsJqZkCHAk07:56
shawn1963batzy, does query mean remote?  I could try this on the disk side and then come back.07:57
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batzythat goof ball07:59
XATRIXxatrix@vox1-ua:~$ sudo service networking restart08:00
XATRIXstop: Unknown instance:08:00
XATRIXnetworking stop/waiting08:00
XATRIXWhat can i do to fix this ?08:00
batzybloody impatient08:00
XATRIXxatrix@vox1-ua:~$ sudo service networking stop08:01
XATRIXstop: Unknown instance:08:01
XATRIXWhy it says me interface is not configured :((((08:04
XATRIXhttp://fpaste.org/64267/13879586/08:04
XATRIXThat's sensless08:04
batzyguess shawn just left.08:07
XATRIXI've found the trouble08:09
XATRIXMy initial /etc/hosts string was08:09
XATRIX176.111.63.124  vox1-ua.letvox.com vox1-ua08:09
XATRIXmy server named as vox1-ua08:09
XATRIXBut i don't want it to resolves to WAN ip08:10
XATRIXi need eth0 10.0.0.108:10
XATRIXas vox1-ua08:10
XATRIXand 10.0.0.2 as vox2-ua08:10
XATRIXI changed it to :08:10
XATRIX10.0.0.1        vox1-ua08:10
XATRIX10.0.0.2        vox2-ua08:10
XATRIX176.111.63.124  vox1-ua.letvox.com vox1-ua08:10
FloodBot1XATRIX: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.08:10
XATRIXAnd now i have problems with start/stop scripts08:10
XATRIXUnbelivable!!!08:11
XATRIXNegative, the same thing happens again :908:12
l00pbackhey guys i'm in need of some help08:19
batzyWhatchya need kid08:20
l00pbackI have a 2TB hard drive(External) and it's showing I go to format it, it gives me the error "Input/Output error during read on /dev/sdb08:21
l00pbackhold on08:21
l00pbackGParted is showing me that the drive is unnallocated08:22
l00pbackunallocated* and when i go to format it Gparted shows me that error08:22
l00pbackplease help me08:22
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AlecTaylorhi08:32
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AlecTaylorDebugging apt-get errors; found that my /tmp directory was missing. I recreated it, what should I change permissions to? "drwxr-xr-x   2 root root   4096 Dec 25 19:30 tmp"08:33
batzyhey shawn196308:35
shawn1963batzy, hey there sorry about that.08:35
Fudusdrwxrwxrwt   9 root root  20K Dec 25 16:33 tmp/08:35
batzyyou didn't need to go onto the other box btw08:35
batzydid you fix it?08:35
shawn1963batzy, yea the cheating way.  I just reinstalled it hehe.08:35
shawn1963I tried to get to the nano from the root prompt but it kept saying that the grub was read-only.08:36
shawn1963grrr08:36
batzyyeah...i could've fixed it for ya08:36
batzybut w/e glad you got it working08:36
shawn1963You said something about query.  Is that like using remote?08:37
batzyi just queried you08:37
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shawn1963batzy, hell if this had been windows I would have been here all night.  in this case it was less than 10 minutes.08:39
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batzywell you reinstalled the entire os for no reason..08:39
batzybut whatever08:39
shawn1963I'm getting tired too. :-(08:40
shawn1963Its almost 2am here.08:40
batzyim staying up all night lol08:40
batzyit's almost 4 am here08:40
shawn1963lol08:40
batzyi plan on waking up my family playing carol of the bells max volume on electric guitar at 708:40
shawn1963dang.  NOW that is funny lol08:41
elkyit's also offtopic. go keep #ubuntu-offtopic entertained :P08:42
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shawn1963batzy, I gotta hit the hey.  I am tired for an old man.  Just think if I stay up any later I'll be pushing up daisies.08:46
shawn1963hay08:46
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yahyaais anyone here familiar with monodevelop?08:55
bel3atarlayhdimakhla908:56
ItsMeLennyholy moly, i have never experienced more problems with ubuntu than i have right now with installing 13.1008:58
ItsMeLennywho was i talking to earlier08:59
ItsMeLennyim going to get 13.04 right now and hope that its better09:01
ItsMeLennybecause hoooleeee craap09:01
dipakItsMeLenny: what kind of problems?09:01
ItsMeLennydipak, random reboots, mass amount of errors, every program hangs and freezes every 2nd time09:02
ItsMeLennyhad to do updates from terminal because synaptic was borked, which it updated the kernel which the latest one just broke everything09:03
ItsMeLennyit feels just in general unstable and very unresponsive09:03
SaberX01Somebody told me earlier, 13.10 was good to go :-) ... does not seem so in the case now does it.09:04
ItsMeLennySaberX01, it is incredibly painful09:04
dipak13.10 is very good i can say it's even better than before09:05
ItsMeLennyit was actually less painful using my computer before the reinstall when no desktop would show09:05
ItsMeLennydipak, troll in the dungeons09:05
SaberX01I'm a firm believer in LTS to LTS for production, play around with the in between stuff, but that's it.09:05
ItsMeLennySaberX01, me too, its just that i borked everything and need a later kernel, but on that note, im probably better off just doing a fresh 12.04 install, i might do that actually instead of 13.0409:06
ItsMeLennyand then just update the kernel sanders09:06
bel3atarItsMeLenny: what version are you running? Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 [x86_64/1.00GHz/SMP]09:07
ItsMeLennybel3atar, now or before?09:07
SaberX01All my boxes are on 12.04.3 ..I have several Vbox 13.xx installs, but nothing on real hardware.09:07
ItsMeLennybefore i was on 12.04 while running like raring or quantel kernel, amd64 also 3.2Ghz09:08
ItsMeLennySaberX01, yeah i just got 12.04.3 iso earlier so i'll use it, do you usually use live or alternate to install?09:09
dipakItsMeLenny: no it's not a lie i am currently using it for nearly 1 month and there is not a single problem in it except for some minor bugs. May be you are the troll09:09
SaberX01Most of the time, the server install CD then add Desktop to it.09:09
ItsMeLennydipak, out of curiosity are you on 32bit or 64bit09:09
ItsMeLennybecause my dad does use 32bit 13.10 and it works fairly well09:10
ItsMeLennySaberX01, ahh09:10
SaberX01It's still done during install, toward the end, I add OpenSSH, and usualyl grab a desktop of choice then.09:11
dipakItsMeLenny: 64-bit09:11
ItsMeLennyodd09:11
ItsMeLennySaberX01, ah, i see what you're saying09:11
ItsMeLennyubuntu is making me angry09:12
batzyy09:12
batzyhow09:12
SaberX01I just have less troubles with svr CD's ... I even have a little Via C7 HP mini running apache and it's my Ubuntu Mirror box.09:12
ItsMeLennyby not working09:12
ItsMeLennySaberX01, yeah09:13
ItsMeLennythis kind of annoyance makes me want to switch to bsd09:14
bekksItsMeLenny: Do you have a specific support question?09:15
ItsMeLennybekks, why doesnt ubuntu 13.10 work09:16
SaberX01I have a BSD , Slack and CentOS Vbox , but mostly all Ubuntu for production stuff09:16
ItsMeLennynow the startup disk creator keeps crashing09:16
ItsMeLennyhow am i going to make a usb stick now09:16
SaberX01Unetbootin09:16
batzyI use ubuntu because of software.09:16
batzyI used to use Arch, Gentoo, and FreeBSD a lot09:17
bekks!doesntwork09:17
ubottuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.09:17
bekksItsMeLenny: Do you have a specific support question, with full details?09:17
SaberX01rr batzy I built a Gentoo box, that thing was fast, vry fast.09:17
bekks!usb | ItsMeLenny09:18
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ubottuItsMeLenny: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent09:18
batzySaberX01, meh09:19
ItsMeLennystop ubottu i know how to do it, its the fact that your ubuntu ways are broken, your usb creator does not work09:19
batzyI didn't notice any speed payoff with it when I was using it on a newer machine09:19
bekksItsMeLenny: Ah, I see you dont want help actually, but continue to rant. If you continue, I dont see any reason in any effort to help you.09:20
bekksbatzy: It wont be faster, using 32bit on 64bit CPU is just wasting resources. :)09:20
ItsMeLennybekks, is bot09:21
batzyI know, i was saying that to SaberX0109:21
bekksItsMeLenny: ubottu is a bot which can be triggered to tell you and other usefull information.09:21
ItsMeLennybekks, its not useful when it doesnt work, im doing it the ubuntu way09:22
SaberX01I use very few applications that can take advantage of 64 bit or large volumes of ram09:22
ItsMeLennyive been on ubuntu since 8.0409:22
ItsMeLennyor 8.02 whatever it was at the time09:22
SaberX01I install 64bit on any box that I can, but, it's a waste really, as I really dont need it.09:23
bekksItsMeLenny: "doesnt work" is a totally useless term when it comes to "what going on, how can we help you". If you wantto continue ranting, do it, but elsewhere. Or ask a specific question about what isnt working, throwing which error messages instead doing of what exactly, on which ubuntu version specifically.09:23
SaberX01I started in Ubuntu in the 5.x Days09:24
SaberX01Was using mostly Slack before that.09:24
gordonjcpSaberX01: likewise09:24
bekksSaberX01: not using the resources your computers have is wasting resources. As long as your CPU is 64bit, you should use 64bit.09:24
ItsMeLennybekks, you're ranting, i didnt rant at all, ive already stated the problems09:24
bekksItsMeLenny: "doesnt work", "making me angry". Whatever.09:24
gordonjcpItsMeLenny: re making a bootable USB stick, just dd the image onto a USB drive09:25
gordonjcpItsMeLenny: forget all this unetbootin stuff, it's a waste of time09:25
SaberX01bekks, I'd venture to say, that most Desktop users, not workstations, are way over spec for the job, they need allot of GPU power adn NIC speed, and most use very little CPU adn maybe 1 to 1.5 GB of RAM on average.09:26
gordonjcpSaberX01: a few years ago, they would have used very little GPU power and lots of CPU power and RAM09:27
gordonjcpSaberX01: in a few years time we'll be back round to that again09:27
ItsMeLennygordonjcp, yeah i dd'd for ubuntu 13.10 and it didnt work, im dd'ing now for 12.04, i'll see if it will boot tho09:27
SaberX01I mean really, how fast does my Desktop need to be to run a Presentation or write a document.09:27
gordonjcpItsMeLenny: "didn't work" how exactly?09:27
bekksSaberX01: Whatever they need, is out of question. The point is which specs the computer have. And if thats 64bit, then use a 64bit OS.09:27
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ItsMeLennygordonjcp, it dd'd across everything, but when it came to boot from it it wasn't recognised, which is bizarre because ive done it mass amounts of times before09:28
SaberX01Thats what I said earlier, if it's 64bit capable, we install 64bit versions.09:28
SaberX01but it's still a waste of resources.09:28
ItsMeLennySaberX01, i have 64bit on my netbook which only has 1gb of ram09:29
gordonjcpItsMeLenny: I'd be wondering if maybe that USB drive is dodgy09:29
ItsMeLennygordonjcp, yeah it's being recognised, it was really bizarre that it wasnt recognised when it had 13.10 on it, also for 13.10 i had to unplug my 2 internal HDD's to actually get it to get past busybox09:29
SaberX01My little HP mini, the Via C7.. that's about all I have round here that's not 64bit.09:29
gordonjcpItsMeLenny: when you say "wasn't recognised" what exactly do you mean?09:30
* gordonjcp has a bunch of 32-bit hardware, not all of it x86-based09:30
bekksSaberX01: It isnt. Why should it? Why would you run DOS when having just 512M - because it is a waste of resources? Install what is able to use most of the resources or you are just wasting resources.09:30
ItsMeLennygordonjcp, in the bios, when its recognised every other time09:30
SaberX01I have one Q6 server that I intentionally put 32bit on .. it's a BU server.09:30
ItsMeLennyits something with 13.1009:30
gordonjcpItsMeLenny: whatever is on the stick ought not to make a difference to the BIOS09:30
gordonjcpItsMeLenny: it can't possibly be 13.1009:30
bekksSaberX01: The last time I installed 32bit on a server wasa a decade ago.09:30
ItsMeLennyhmm, except now i saw the purple screen but its not launching anything09:31
gordonjcpItsMeLenny: that might sit for a while, is there an activity light on the USB stick?09:31
ItsMeLennygordonjcp, 13.10 when i finally got it to boot off the stick i had to unplug 2 of my hard drives for it to work properly, i think theres something unconventiional in it09:31
ItsMeLennyno activity. this hasnt happened before09:31
SaberX01bekks, when you have to decide what resources you budgets can handles, 2 techs or a high spec box for 100+ IT folk, ya start looking at real utilization rather that pie in the sky stuff.09:32
ItsMeLennyhard reboot09:32
gordonjcpItsMeLenny: no09:32
ItsMeLennygordonjcp, hard reboot fixed it, or at least it got further09:33
Roccatanyone know which channel would be good for RAID issues?09:33
SaberX01Personally, I'd rather have more human resources and less hardware resources.09:33
ItsMeLennygordonjcp, should i have dd'd with a bs because i didnt include one09:33
bekksSaberX01: The difference in the pricing between 32bit and 64bit is nearly 0. If you just have 32bit HW, it is obviously that you cant use 64bit - which isnt a pricing question but just "is the computer able of running 64bit or no?"09:33
ItsMeLennyoh, black screen but is responsive09:33
ItsMeLennytimeout killing modprobe09:33
RoccatWhen booting I get: Invalid Partition Table09:33
bekksSaberX01: but I think this is getting even more offtopic in here ;)09:34
ItsMeLennyfrozen, hard reboot09:34
RoccatThis is on a 6 drive RAID enabled IBM 23609:34
ItsMeLennyi'll re-dd with a bs=409:34
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bekksbs=4 is pretty insane, it will write four bytes at a time.09:34
RoccatAnyone here with experience in IBM Raid setup/problems?09:35
bekksRoccat: Is that a new setup?09:35
Roccatno no, it crashed in the middle of the night.09:35
ItsMeLennyah damn, forgot to switch the kernel, the new kernel doesnt work either09:35
RoccatDrive 0 was set to defunct.09:35
Roccatsetup is as follows: 3 drives on logical, 3 drives on hot swap09:35
bekksRoccat: So hopefully you have a full backup?09:35
SaberX01bekks, agreed, but when you spec HW for engineering, MFG, IT and general use, excluding the CPU of course, RAM, HD all that plays into it .. Servers are a whole diff kettle of fish .. and yes, we gone way OT here :-)09:36
Roccatbekks, yes have a Netapp box09:36
ItsMeLennyhow does one pop up grub09:36
ItsMeLennywithout having to reboot in startup09:36
bekksRoccat: Three single drives? and Three hot spares? Or some kind of RAID using an incredible waste of hotspares?09:36
Roccatbekks, something like that.09:37
Roccatbekks, replaced RAID controller, updated RAID bios to 7.1209:37
bekksRoccat: "Something"? Which RAID level exactly do you use?09:37
RoccatRaid 509:37
bekksRoccat: So you are using a RAID5 on three disks with the waste of three hotspares?09:37
SaberX01Only really need one spare I'd think, add the other two drives into the array.09:38
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RoccatSaberX01, ok will do.09:39
bekksSome RAID1/0 oin 6 disks would have been more sensible in terms of speed.09:39
bekksRoccat: Do you mind to asnwer my question?09:39
RoccatSaberX01, the server is 6 years old09:39
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SaberX01If your having high failure rates, a larger array can keep you up and running v.s. the 3 drive approach.09:40
Roccatstrange thing, when I did replace drive 1, the one which was flagged as defunt, it started a copy back, when I returned this morning, drive 0 was defunct.09:40
bekksIf you are having high failure rates, you should eliminate the faulty hardware.09:41
SaberX01Roccat, all the more reason to spread the risk over a larger volume .. at least from an operational point of view.09:41
RoccatSaberX01, you think its possible I lost the partition entirely?09:41
bekksRoccat: you data is gone then: this happened: one drive failed, while rebuilding a second drive failed. Data lost.09:41
toilIn Screen(GNU), I've somehow linked a single 'window' within 2 different screen sessions. Any idea how I've done that? lol09:42
SaberX01Well anything is possible, but loosing a whole partition in a RAID array, you dont run accros that often, or at least I ahven't.09:42
RoccatSaberX01, yea, sucks.09:42
bekksSaberX01: It happens very often if you use cheap desktop drives and put them under high I/O rates in 24/7.09:43
RoccatIBM drives, but yea, weird to have 2 drives fail right in sequence09:43
bekksIt even happens regularly when using SATA drives in a high I/O environment.09:43
Roccatwasn't a high I/O environment.09:43
bekksRoccat: 6 year old drives. Get 6 new ones, build a new array.09:43
SaberX01Out arrays are very expensive .. I doubt we have 1HD failure a month if that.09:44
bekksSaberX01: How many arrays are you responsible for? ;)09:44
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SaberX01How many arrays ? god only knows, ... at least 400-500 physical single drives .. and thats not anythign to do wiht our computational clusters.09:45
bekksSaberX01: so that breaks down to about 100 arrays when using stock R5 arrays. thats pretty low-scale ;)09:46
bekksAnd again - we are getting offtopic. Sorry, I wont do that again :/09:47
SaberX01That one data center, we have them all over the world.09:47
q_a_z_steve_How do I find out the dependencies and pull them for offline use? I know I dabbled in all this once, but I'm super rusty.09:47
SaberX01EU, JA, SG, TW, CH, GbH, UK, FR<, IS,  .. nothign in S. America or Africa though, at least that I know of.09:47
q_a_z_steve_I need libssl-dev apparently.09:48
ItsMeLennyit's really laggy when i drag window frames09:48
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hitsujiTMOq_a_z_steve: apt-cache show packagename       ....   this will give you the info for a package, including dependencies09:50
q_a_z_stevedown the rabbit hole it is.09:50
hitsujiTMOq_a_z_steve: you could set up a minimal debootstrap chroot env for pulling the exact dependencies to that chroots apt-cache09:51
bekksq_a_z_steve: http://askubuntu.com/questions/306971/install-package-with-dependencies-offline09:52
XATRIXf...ck this LTS, i'm gonna install 13 server09:52
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bekks!language | XATRIX09:52
ubottuXATRIX: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.09:52
SaberX01q_a_z_steve, you can use the download flags, use apt-offline all kinds of methods.09:52
XATRIXsorry09:52
ItsMeLennygaaarhhhh now ubuntu 13.10 just locked up again09:54
XATRIX)09:54
ItsMeLennywhy is hat09:54
SaberX01XATRIX, smooth sailing playing with  root still ?09:54
thom_rwhat happened?09:54
XATRIXSaberX01: NO!!! i didn't09:54
XATRIXBut i have still the same failures09:54
q_a_z_stevehitsujiTMO: time wise, how long do you think that would take?09:55
XATRIXI've reinstalled it completely, and used only sudo09:55
XATRIXsudo networking restart (start/stop) - gives an error09:55
XATRIXAnd some other upstart scripts do09:55
SaberX01XATRIX, well I know your hardware, but, with the 12.04 server CD's and pre-seed, it's a very quick install here.09:55
ItsMeLennyim dieing here09:55
SaberX01I dont know your hardware ... ..09:55
thom_rIt'sMeLenny: what happened09:56
ItsMeLennythom_r, was just clicking in the settings menu and it froze completely09:56
ItsMeLennyunresponsive to everything09:56
ItsMeLennyand it's not the first time it's happened today09:56
XATRIXSaberX01: TYAN GT20 B5502 / Intel Xeon X3450 , Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset 6 port SATA AHCI Controller09:57
ItsMeLennynow it just froze in booting ubuntu09:57
thom_rhow long have you had it installed?09:57
q_a_z_steveWhy is my 13.10 not loading the windows and things right? I'm on a 686...09:57
ItsMeLennythom_r, fresh install today09:57
XATRIXI have another server with a bit different HW, the same happens again09:57
XATRIXI'm gonna install 1309:57
XATRIXI don't wanna fight bugs09:57
thom_rItsMeLenny: probably a bad install, try re-installing09:57
SaberX01XATRIX, that shouldn't be a problem, I've not used that Model TYAN .. but use allot of TYAN MB's, but we only use Intel Fibre NICS.09:58
ItsMeLennythom_r, im going back to 12.04, thats if 13.10 can stay uncrashed for long enough to write a usb stick09:58
XATRIXI need to finish my servers before the weekend comes09:58
thom_rI've not had any problems in 13.10, using it right now09:58
VanessaEHi.  I am trying to sort out a problem with suspend.  Sometimes when my machine goes down, I think it is actually shutting the power off as if it's being told to *hibernate*, even though I've ordered it to *suspend* as the power light actually goes off instead of steady pulsing.  is there any way to tell for sure?09:58
XATRIXSaberX01: It's not a NIC/driver problems, it's something wrong with the upstart scripts09:58
XATRIXOr so09:58
ItsMeLennythom_r, only upgraded because i completely broke 12.04 after having it installed for a year09:58
VanessaEseems to be about every other attempt.09:58
VanessaE(12.04 here, happens with 13.10 also)09:59
SaberX01XATRIX, Have you tried a simple DHCP only setup ..09:59
XATRIXNo, i have no DHCP in my DC09:59
XATRIXOnly dedicated IPs09:59
ItsMeLennywhats a good bite size to dd ubuntu onto usb09:59
XATRIXAnd i bet it's not a network failure10:00
XATRIXOr hardware10:00
SaberX01XATRIX, that's a bummer, no way to tell if it's HW or your SW config.10:00
XATRIXIt's a scripts problem10:00
thom_rItsMeLenny: did you update using a usb/dvd?10:00
q_a_z_stevewhat's the key combo to restart the guy stuff?10:00
q_a_z_steveGUI10:00
ItsMeLennythom_r, usb, but didnt update, fresh install10:00
thom_rah, understood10:00
XATRIXI can up/down ifaces using sudo /etc/init.d/network-interface stop INTERFACE=eth010:00
SaberX01XATRIX, what version UB are you installing?10:00
XATRIX12.04.3 LTS10:00
raistlinthewizhey there, a question, is there an upstart/supervisord alternative that can also monitor a network port and it it can't access it, restart the process?10:01
XATRIXI'm currently installing 1310:01
XATRIXAlso, as i said before i have multiple scripts failing, not only networking10:01
VanessaEI have tried googling for this but I've come up totally empty.10:01
ZahyHello10:01
SaberX01XATRIX, I think I have 1 maybe 2 13.xx VM servers,  so Im not much help there.10:01
ItsMeLennythom_r, and the thing is, i have never had these problems with any other ubuntu install, thats where my frustrations stem from10:02
ZahyCan anyone explain to me why whenever I have Ubuntu installed, the charging LED doesn10:02
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Zahytdoesn't display the proper color10:02
ZahyThe laptop charges just fine, but the LED stays lit as if it were fully charged10:02
ItsMeLennyZahy, i have the same thing with my mute button, glows orange instead of blue, its due to drivers10:02
Zahyahh, so its just something I10:03
ItsMeLennyor probably due to drivers, as in drivers not being written for them10:03
ZahyI'll have to deal with10:03
ItsMeLennyZahy, yeah :P10:03
SaberX01XATRIX, I dont know why your having multiple init.d / upstart scripts failing, that's very suspect in of itself.10:03
ZahyDoes anyone else's laptop boot up with brightness set to 0? lol10:03
ItsMeLennyZahy, loool not mine, but i do have sound issues, it farts all the time10:03
ZahyI have no sound issues here10:04
ZahyGot a Lenovo U53010:04
Zahywiped windows 8 and did a full ubuntu install10:04
bekksXATRIX: First, fix networking then.10:04
XATRIXreinstalling10:04
ZahyI just really want to fix this brightness issue10:04
ZahyIt's annoying having to adjust the brightness everytime this thing boots up10:04
ItsMeLennyZahy, ive got an HP netbook, also the touch pad is terirble, the buttons are built into it so right click relies on two fingers being detected, which #! linux doesnt suport10:05
SaberX01XATRIX, just as an additional check, you should MD5 the ISO CD  make sure you dont have troubles there.10:05
ItsMeLenny12.04.3 install is a-happenin!10:05
teroAny ideas why skype is turning off by itself?10:06
ItsMeLennytero, i'd try grabbing the deb from the skype site and reinstalling it10:06
ItsMeLennyas bad as their updates are they do sometimes fix stuff10:06
bekks!skype | tero10:06
ubottutero: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga10:06
ItsMeLennyekiga >____< does anybody actually use that?10:08
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ItsMeLennyJoakimL, are you telling us to, or are you trying to?10:09
SaberX01:-)10:09
ItsMeLennynooooo my installer crashed, now i will have no operating system?!?10:10
SaberX01looks like two failed attempted to me :-)10:10
ItsMeLennyoh, lucky for me it booted into live more10:10
ItsMeLennymode10:10
ItsMeLennynot having a good itime here10:10
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, what ISO you using?10:10
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ItsMeLennySaberX01, 12.04.310:11
SaberX01LiveCD ?10:11
ItsMeLennyyeah10:11
ItsMeLenny64bit10:11
ItsMeLennydo you think thats the problem, or do you think it was my flash drive10:11
ItsMeLennyit said it couldnt read some files10:12
bekksItsMeLenny: Sounds like a broken flashdrive.10:12
SaberX01I know allot of folks sware by the LiveCD, but, I use the server (or what used to eb the alt-cd) and install whatever DE, I rarely have issues at install.10:12
ItsMeLennySaberX01, yeah i used to be an alternate cd user, then in the end i was just like eh10:13
ItsMeLennyi think it was the flash drive10:13
ItsMeLennydo usb drives not get mounted in livecdmode?10:14
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, It could be, I pretty much waste as disk on ever ISO I use. I've used USB Keys before for testing,  but normally actual CD.10:14
SaberX01Make sure you MD5 the Image before setting up the USB Key.10:14
ItsMeLennySaberX01, yeah i checked the md510:15
SaberX01Least you know that part is good them.10:15
SaberX01*then10:15
ItsMeLennymy other usb stick wont mount now, how odd10:15
ItsMeLennyyeah10:15
ItsMeLennymaybe i might put it onto an SD card :P10:15
SaberX01Trying buring a CD, moderate to slow speed burn, and run it that way.10:15
ItsMeLennySaberX01, yeah, and not using brasero, that program never works10:16
SaberX01Yeah, use whatever ya like, but slow burn, on CD then try the install.10:17
ItsMeLennyi'll try this sd card first10:17
ItsMeLennyim feeling lucky with it10:17
ItsMeLennynoooo now my computer froze?10:18
ItsMeLennywtf is going on :(:(:(10:18
ItsMeLennysomething must be sucking extra power in the house10:18
SaberX01maybe the root casue is the ROM drive ??10:19
ItsMeLennybut that was running off the usb10:19
ItsMeLennyoh i know what it would be!10:19
ItsMeLennythe christmas tree lights10:19
SaberX01Oh, ok, well that points back to the USB Key then ey10:19
ItsMeLennyno joke10:19
ddoom_I installed a usb 3.0 pcie addon card, but am only getting 30MB/s write speed capped. Is there anything I can look at to make it go faster?10:20
ItsMeLennybut before it froze from running off the HDD10:20
bekksddoom_: Do you use an USB3 device, too?10:20
ItsMeLennyddoom_, what do you have plugged into the usb3 port10:20
ItsMeLennylol10:20
SaberX01I have a 300amp main service in our house, we dont get pwr lags :)10:20
ItsMeLennySaberX01, our house i rekon got ripped off with the wiring in the 90s10:20
ItsMeLennywhen there was an extra fridge plugged in my computer couldnt boot10:21
ddoom_bekks, ItsMeLenny : Yes SanDisk Extreme® USB 3.0 Flash Drive to be exact10:21
ItsMeLennyddoom_, might just be a slow flash drive, do you have a speed test program10:21
SaberX01Need a Java .. be back in a few10:21
ItsMeLennySaberX01, and the thing with the christmas lights we have, theyre super old, so they dont run off a 12volt pack or what not10:22
bekksddoom_: which driver is that addon card using? Pastebin lsb_release -a; uname -a; lspci -k please10:22
ItsMeLennythey run off full 240volt10:22
ddoom_ItsMeLenny: I've tested in windows at roughly 100MB/s10:22
XATRIXSaberX01: 13 ubuntu server  runs pretty smooth10:22
XATRIXxatrix@vox1-ua:~$ sudo service networking restart10:22
XATRIX[sudo] password for xatrix:10:22
XATRIXnetworking stop/waiting10:22
XATRIXnetworking start/running10:22
FloodBot1XATRIX: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:22
ItsMeLennyddoom_, oh10:22
bekksXATRIX: PAstebin your networking configuration please.10:22
XATRIXbekks: http://ur1.ca/g98p810:24
ddoom_bekks: http://pastebin.com/2WXQ1g1P10:24
PebkacJoneshello10:25
thom_rhello10:26
PebkacJoneshi thom_r10:26
thom_rhow are you10:26
PebkacJonesgood10:26
PebkacJonesI'm wondering if anyone here is using T430?10:26
bekks!anyone | PebkacJones10:27
ubottuPebkacJones: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.10:27
PebkacJoneswhat issue are you having with T430 ?10:28
PebkacJones!details10:28
ubottuPlease give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."10:28
bekksPebkacJones: No, you :) Which issue do YOU have?10:28
PebkacJonesI haven't had one10:28
PebkacJonesI want to get T43010:29
bekks!hcl | PebkacJones10:29
ubottuPebkacJones: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection10:29
PebkacJones!poll10:29
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PebkacJones!gq10:30
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bekksPebkacJones: Yeah, so dont poll please.10:30
PebkacJones!hcl10:30
ubottuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection10:30
ObrienDaveMerry Krishna, Bah Humbug, and all that ;P10:33
cvtsxhello10:40
thom_rhello10:40
ObrienDavegreetings10:40
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, you get it installed yet?10:41
cvtsxhappy xmas10:41
cvtsxanyone familiar with znc and ubuntu?10:42
batzyYep10:42
batzycvtsx, you mean the irc bouncer thing right10:42
ItsMeLennySaberX01, no, im back running in live mode, turned some stuff off around the house, but now i cant mount the 160gb drive, "you do not have permissions necessary, i was trying to dd from it when the computer froze, so i hope that didnt break it10:43
batzyItsMeLenny, change the permissions?10:43
cvtsxyes10:43
ItsMeLennybatzy, but this didnt happen before10:43
batzycvtsx, wat about it10:43
ItsMeLennyand its just an internal drive10:44
cvtsxand nvm, i was going to use amazon vps but they want phone verification10:44
cvtsxfuck thaT10:44
cvtsxor maybe not10:44
cvtsx1 min10:44
FloodBot1cvtsx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:44
ItsMeLennyah, i can get in with root10:44
batzyItsMeLenny, .....change the permissions..10:44
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, I doubt that you've broken the HD, but unless you need anythign off that drive' Id' delete all the partitions, and start from scratch there.10:44
cvtsxitsmelenny: you talking to me?10:44
batzychown -R Lenny /10:45
batzydone.10:45
batzylol10:45
batzythat's actually not a good idea10:45
ItsMeLennySaberX01, its a different hard drive that has all my important files on it10:45
ItsMeLennybatzy, its a different hard drive10:46
batzylol10:46
batzyis it in /dev/?10:46
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, I talking about the system drive /boot.  /swap ...  /  ... /home10:46
ItsMeLennybatzy, i have no idea anymore :P10:46
ItsMeLennyim about ready to shoot myself :P10:47
batzyItsMeLenny, you're on ubuntu right?10:47
ItsMeLennybatzy, i sure hope so, :P yeah i am10:47
ItsMeLennywhats the terminal called10:47
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ItsMeLennyif i can start it in root10:47
batzyls /dev/ >> devices.txt ; pastebinit -i devices.txt10:47
batzytype that10:47
SaberX01I've started using /home on it's own drive these days, just for this reason, can re-install and have little fear of toasting my /home partition.10:47
batzyand paste the link here10:47
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ItsMeLennycant pastebin, the computer is barely running10:48
batzyno i mean10:48
batzytype that command10:48
batzyinto your terminal10:48
batzyoh it has no connection?10:48
ItsMeLennyit doesnt have pastebinit10:48
ItsMeLennyno idea about the connection10:48
batzyI thought ubuntu came with it preloaded.10:48
ItsMeLennywhats terminals actual name10:49
ObrienDaveno10:49
batzy:\10:49
batzyItsMeLenny, sudo apt-get install pastebinit? :)10:49
ObrienDaveterminal10:49
ItsMeLennyah! gnome-terminal10:49
Kablamhi guys10:49
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, you still using USB Key for install ?10:50
ItsMeLennyok, i think im about to win10:50
thom_rCall Charlie Sheen, he can help you win10:50
ItsMeLennySaberX01, going to 'dd' to a SD card10:50
cvtsxok im at my vps console what do i do now xD10:50
cvtsxto install znc10:50
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, Good luck ... I never win using dd ..10:50
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batzycvtsx, uh10:51
ItsMeLennySaberX01, i am a master of the d10:51
llutzcvtsx: sudo apt-get install znc    and then read http://wiki.znc.in/FAQ10:51
ItsMeLennyi mean dd10:51
ItsMeLenny:?10:51
batzysudo apt-get install znc?10:51
SaberX01cvtsx, what server sw you running?10:51
cvtsxk10:51
Kablami have a question im trying to run a install script for rutorrent and i get a error cant find libdigest-sha1-perl .. and i checked that the ubuntu packages is renamed to libdigest-sha-perl what can i do?10:51
cvtsxsaberx01 how do i find this out? this is my first time using a vps10:51
SaberX01that would do it fer a UB / DB box :-)10:52
SaberX01cvtsx, If you dont know what the Server OS is, may want to slow up and get that under control first.10:52
cvtsxi know what a server os is10:53
cvtsxidk how to find out10:53
SaberX01what is it?10:53
cvtsxhttp://i.imgur.com/UMn3qDA.png10:53
ItsMeLennymaybe the christmas tree lights is what was freezing 13.10, but it still doesnt answer the mass amount of crashes10:53
cvtsxthats what it looks like10:53
batzyItsMeLenny, wat10:54
batzybe specific bout your issue son10:54
ItsMeLennybatzy, every single gnome thing would crash and want to send a system report, gnome panel, gnome icon for this, unity for that, this for something else10:55
SaberX01cvtsx, That's your console, did you get a CentOS, Ubuntu, RedHat server, that's what  mean by Server OS10:55
cvtsxshit i dont even think it gave me an option10:55
ItsMeLennywhy does my computer in the bios say its 3.33Ghz when its only 3.2Ghz10:56
ItsMeLennySaberX01, this SD card install looks more promising, maybe my USB drives have had it10:56
SaberX01It's possible ... they not made for that type of duty, we all just force them into doing it.10:57
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ObrienDaveItsMeLenny, rounding off error. some use a factor of 1000, some use 1024.10:57
guuestcan you help me about desktop notifications??((10:58
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ItsMeLennyObrienDave, ah! of course10:58
SaberX01cvtsx, Well before you go trying to install and configure your server, maybe want is on it initially.10:58
cvtsxok10:58
ItsMeLennyObrienDave, in fact i think it changed when i updated the bios firmware, so theyve glitched it up themselves10:58
ObrienDaveItsMeLenny, quite possible :P10:59
cvtsxhow do i do that?10:59
ItsMeLennyNOOOOOO, SaberX01 this installer has the same problem10:59
SaberX01Allot of us here are versed in multple OS's but this is Ubuntu support, and if you have a CentOS server, best place to be is in CentOS IRC.10:59
ItsMeLenny[errno 5] input/output error10:59
cvtsxSaberX01: found it11:00
cvtsxwhat os should i run>?11:00
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cvtsxwell what version11:00
cvtsxofc ubuntu lool11:00
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SaberX01ItsMeLenny, Try the server installer, and toward the end add OpenSSH is need be and pick a Desktop from the Tasksel menu.11:00
ItsMeLennySaberX01, that has to mean its a 12.04.3 issue11:00
ItsMeLennywell if i have to download another version i might as well download 13.04... alternate cd maybe?11:01
ItsMeLennySQUASHFS error11:01
cvtsx12.04 (what i use) or 13.1011:01
cvtsxwhich one? I have never used the serrver version though11:01
ItsMeLennyok, now my computer froze again11:02
ObrienDaveno alternate for 13.10 afaik11:02
ItsMeLennyim going mental here11:02
SaberX01cvtsx, Personally, for a server, there's no question for me, its 12.04 LTS .. others may not agree.11:02
ObrienDave^^^^agrees11:02
cvtsxok il go with that, i was leaning towards 12.04 also11:02
cvtsx64 bit or 32?11:02
cvtsxi say 64 but idk abnout servers11:02
SaberX016411:02
ItsMeLennyObrienDave, no alternate??11:02
ObrienDavelet me check11:03
SaberX01They stopped the Alt-CD on the 13.xx releases, is just server and Desktop now.11:03
ItsMeLennyhow can this installation screw up so many times11:03
ItsMeLennyok, well i might go for a 13.04 alternate then11:03
ufkhello11:04
cfhowlettufk,   greetings11:04
ObrienDaveno alternate for 13. afaik11:04
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, The server CD is the same installer as Alt. ...11:04
ItsMeLennySaberX01, ah11:04
SaberX01adn there's not Alt fof 13.xx anymore11:04
ObrienDavecfhowlett, Merry Krishna, Bah Humbug, and all that ;P11:04
ufki added a path to /etc/environment, do i need to execute something for it to get actually added to the path ?11:04
cfhowlettItsMeLenny, perhaps mini?11:04
SaberX01it's either server or desktop or all that AWS / Cloud stuff11:05
ItsMeLennySaberX01, but does the server have the DE on it?11:05
cfhowlettObrienDave, I can go you one better11:05
ItsMeLennyok, how about i go for 12.04.1 alternate....11:05
ObrienDaveno alternate for 13.04 afaik11:05
ObrienDavecfhowlett, do tell ;)11:05
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, Yes, tooward the end, Tasksel asks, Ubuntu DT, Lubuntu, Xubuntu etc etc11:05
cvtsxwhats a instance in networking?11:05
ItsMeLennySaberX01, oh, so theyre actually on the CD? or does it download them11:06
SaberX01Yes11:06
cfhowlettObrienDave, sending now ...11:06
SaberX01On the CD already apart from some odd packages here and there.11:06
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, but if yoru at that point of the install, you have internet access.11:07
ItsMeLennySaberX01, ok, well i might as well grab it, i'll just delete this 13.10 13.10_64 and 12.04_64 isos :P11:07
SaberX01Get the Server CD, and burn it to a CD, then Add Ubuntu-Desktop when the isntaller asks you if you want additional SW installed, just tick the box you want and go.11:07
ObrienDavei'll be danged if i can ever get DCC to work ;/11:08
SaberX01It's also allot faster, and allot ligher, as your not using all the heavy desktop graphics during install./11:09
cfhowlettObrienDave, pm?11:09
SaberX01cvtsx, Im not sure what that's referrign too, I'd suspect, your primary NIC, but that's a guess.11:09
ObrienDavesure11:09
cvtsxehh i figured it out11:09
SaberX01DCC ? what's that?11:09
ItsMeLennySaberX01, so what version of ubuntu should i be getting in the end?11:09
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, if you asking me, there's onlt one answer, 12.04.3 64 Server.11:10
ItsMeLennySaberX01, ok, i'll go with that, im not up to making decisions anymore :P11:10
SaberX01It installed like a champ, all be it 32bit, on my little HP Mini 3 nights ago, and running DebMirror on it now, not probs at all Via C7 1.2Ghz  2GB box.11:11
ItsMeLennySaberX01, how can it have ubuntu desktop on it when its smaller11:11
cvtsxSaberX01 what snap shot should i use for backup?11:11
VanessaE*sigh* I hate computers sometimes.11:12
ItsMeLennyim sure they have screwed up the 12.04.3 64bit livecd iso11:12
ItsMeLennyVanessaE, I hate them all the time11:12
VanessaEeven the 12.04.3 live USB can't reliably suspend on my hardware.  wtf?11:12
ItsMeLennyVanessaE, sounds like you dont use them enough :P11:12
ItsMeLennyah yes, the ol suspend11:12
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, Toward the end of the installation, the installer brings up a menu list fo additional servers you can install, openSSH, Postfix etce tc, it also has all three major desktops, Ubuntu, Lubunt and Xubuntu .. all you do is tick the box, and away it goes.11:13
VanessaEItsMeLenny: after 25 years in the field, I've learned that I don't have to hate all of them :)11:13
ItsMeLennySaberX01, so that means they do download from the internet? :P11:13
MonkeyDustcursing is the only language that every computer understands11:14
ItsMeLennyVanessaE, :P11:14
ItsMeLennyMonkeyDust, understands yet still doesnt respond to11:14
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, I dont package per package which do and which dont.11:14
ItsMeLennyah11:14
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, but at that point in the install, you ahve internet access already.11:14
ItsMeLennywell, I've got 500gb of data to chomp through, yet at these dial up speeds i think thats impossible11:15
SaberX01cvtsx, Not sure I understand that question.11:15
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VanessaEthe only possible, conceivable thing I can think of is that I have no swap (why should I?  I have 16GB of RAM).  Suspend leads directly to what looks to me like an actual hibernate cycle (a full power down with no flashing power light).  explanation?11:15
VanessaEItsMeLenny: dial-up?  O_O11:15
VanessaEyou have my condolences.11:15
alterbrokenhi11:15
ItsMeLennyits not dial up, but almost behaves as much, aussie internet, thanks liberal coalition11:16
alterbrokenuhy, lost my password, cant figure out how to get stuff working11:16
alterbrokenanywho11:16
alterbrokeni'm trying to bind disabling and enabling my touchpad to a Fn key11:16
SaberX01VanessaE, As a practice, whether used or not, is good idea to create a swap, but agreed, 16gb RAM you prob never gonna hit the disk anyway.11:16
alterbrokenhttp://pastebin.com/Asdsktp8 is my current idea, but its not working11:16
ItsMeLennyVanessaE, yeah i dont use swap either, but swap was meant to have been abolished in favour of swap that sits in the partition, like a swap file11:16
cvtsxSaberX01: its ok, turns out i dont need it11:16
thom_rI've heard stories of the Aussie internet. Sorry11:16
cvtsxbut what port do i use for znc/vpn? is 22 ok?11:17
ItsMeLennyproblem i had with swap with my 8gb of ram is that it kept using it11:17
VanessaEItsMeLenny: well creating a swap file is easy enough to do, but would it matter in this particular case?  I'm trying to establish if the absence of a swap (partition|file) is causing some obscure forced hibernate action to fail (it clearly says it's "Suspend" when I click it,m and that that's what it is doing in the logs, but it visually looks more like hibernate but without ten minutes of flushing to disk)11:18
ItsMeLennymight be placebo but it seems the more i curse the liberal coalition the faster my internet goes11:18
SaberX01Port-22 is normally your SSH port (check your config), so if your going to thunnel VPN / SSH on 22 that's ok I'd think. I dont know about the ZNC package.11:18
SaberX01cvtsx, But from a security stand point, you should change SSH P22 to something else.11:19
cvtsxok thanks11:19
ItsMeLennyVanessaE, yeah, theres suspend and hibernation and i've really never gotten either of them to work, one i would accidently press instead of shut down and the only way my computer would come back on is if i switched it off at the wall11:19
cvtsxthey only got ssh, does it suffice?11:19
VanessaEfigures.11:19
VanessaEwhat is it that they're doing right on my (Android 4.1) tablet then? :-/11:20
llutzVanessaE: hibernation = suspend to disk, which needs (by default) a swap-partition. if you don't have one, hibernation won't work without a lot of work before11:20
cvtsxlololol im a fucking idiot xD11:20
llutz!language | cvtsx11:20
ubottucvtsx: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.11:20
VanessaEllutz: yep, I know.  which is why I'm doing normal S3 Suspend to RAM.11:20
cvtsxsorry11:21
SaberX01cvtsx, SSH is what most of us use. I ahte to say this, but if I were you, seeing how this is your first server, don't put anything critical / important on the server, it's gonna take a while to lean how to use and secure it properly.11:21
cvtsxSaberX01: i dont plan on putting anything critical on it11:21
VanessaEllutz: the logs and the on-screen prompts clearly say it's suspending, but it is acting more like it's trying to hibernate - the machine hangs for a moment, shuts things down, then shuts itself off - but without the flashing power LED.11:21
cvtsxi just want a znc and maybe a vpn11:22
MonkeyDustcvtsx  is the server linked to the internet, or just for local use?11:22
cvtsxlinked to internet11:22
SaberX01cvtsx, I need to go loo up the znc .. I dont use it, so need to figure that out.11:22
cvtsxits an amazon vps11:22
VanessaEllutz: I'm wondering if the power management system in Linux (well, the kernal if not elsewhere) is sending the wrong "command" to the part of the hardware that controls these actions11:22
llutzVanessaE: check logs11:22
cvtsxkk its just a putty for irc11:22
SaberX01cvtsx, Here's a 12.04 install guide, not sure if it's perfect or not: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-install-znc-an-irc-bouncer-on-an-ubuntu-vps11:24
VanessaEllutz: the logs indicate a normal suspend.  it's when I try to resume that it dies.  usually it powers back up and ...then that's just it.  all I get is power, but no usability.  totally dead console, have to hard power-off or hit reset.11:24
cvtsxthanks, i will check it out ;)11:24
SaberX01cvtsx, and here's a OpenVPN how too: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN11:24
cvtsxthanks11:24
llutzcvtsx: znc is in the repos, use "sudo apt-get install znc"    and then read http://wiki.znc.in/FAQ. there is no need to compile znc yourself11:25
vegetablesalad19Hello! How can I colorize output I get from grep in myy script? I mark matched string in read, but how to set color for everything else? - adb logcat | grep --color -E "findMe"11:25
cvtsxllutz: thanks man11:25
SaberX01cvtsx, Here's the Ubuntu Server Guide, you probably want to spend allot fo time in there for a while: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/11:26
cvtsxthanks saber11:26
SaberX01cvtsx, and definately have a read through this: http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/how-secure-ubuntu-1204-lts-server-part-1-basics11:27
VanessaEllutz: the only glimmer of hope I've been able to find is this, but G*d look at the age of this bug:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pm-utils/+bug/99012911:27
ubottuUbuntu bug 990129 in pm-utils (Ubuntu) "Suspend/Resume hangs and fails - Ubuntu 12.04LTS" [Undecided,Confirmed]11:27
VanessaEha!11:27
VanessaEI'd forgotten ubottu does that.11:27
VanessaE(and yeah, that's me at the end with a rather upset post)11:27
cvtsxok, do you think if i have it unsecure it will get breached fast?11:28
SaberX01cvtsx, the more security you put in the better off you gonna be.11:28
cvtsxyeah11:28
VanessaEcvtsx: does Windows serve as a good virus-attractant platform? :)11:28
VanessaE(in other words, yes, you will be breached)11:29
SaberX01cvtsx, We're not talking SELinux here, but normal sane server security, there's allot you can do.11:29
cvtsxlool but im running ubuntu server11:29
cfhowlettcvtsx, your system.  if you want to knowingly leave a breach vector - don't come back crying if you get stung11:29
SaberX01I know,11:29
cvtsxyeah, i put a firewall so only my ip can connect to it11:29
cvtsxi feel ya11:29
VanessaEips can be spoofed.11:29
SaberX01Getting hacked just plane suxs .. anything you can do to prevent it is a good thing.11:30
hitsujiTMOcvtsx: do you have a static ip? I would suggest setting up a nat vpn instead.11:31
ItsMeLennynever been hacked in my life11:31
cvtsxmy home ip or the vps ip?11:31
SaberX01cvtsx, Lots of good firewall, Im not an expert on them, but these are pretty good: ClearOS, IPCop, eBox Platform, Monowall11:31
cvtsxmy home is static i believe11:31
cvtsxthe server came with a firewall all ready i believe11:32
ItsMeLennyif im hacked someone might steal my text documents, and that one sample song i copied from windows XP11:32
hitsujiTMOcvtsx: your home ip, if you set it up so that your ip is on the firewall, then as soon as your ip changes you lose access11:32
cvtsxo yeah11:33
cvtsxyeah my ip is static, even if it is dynamic we never turn off the modem so im good11:33
SaberX01Yeah, prob not a good plan, didn't they assign you at least 1 IP address?11:33
VanessaEcan someone tell me a bit about these 3.5 kernels?  back in the 2.x days, it was generally highly recommended to avoid odd-numbered .x versions.  is this not still the case?11:33
VanessaE(seems I need to update beyond 3.2.0 to have any chance of making suspend work right)11:34
cvtsxits dynamic11:34
hitsujiTMOcvtsx: lol, most isps force an IP renew every 24 - 48 hrs. So not turning off your modem doesn't guarantee that it will stay static11:34
cvtsxnope, my ip hasnt changed11:34
cvtsxand its dynamic11:34
ItsMeLennyVanessaE, i needed 3.5 for the blackmagic intensity im pretty sure, but i think they broke some games in Wine, always get a core dump from it11:34
cvtsxmust be my sh1t isp11:34
SaberX01cvtsx, are you talkign about your Home IP ot the VPS IP is dynamic ?11:35
hitsujiTMOVanessaE: back in the old days the odd number were dev builds. This not not the case since they switched to git as they now have dev branches11:35
cvtsxhome ip11:35
SaberX01ok11:35
cvtsxvps is static i believe11:35
VanessaEhitsujiTMO: ok, that's about what I figured.  and that's how I remembered it as well.11:35
SaberX01I hope so.11:35
VanessaEguess I'll give 3.5 a shot then.11:35
VanessaEat least fglrx is good all the way up to 3.12 if I should need to go that high :)11:35
cvtsxbut yeah my ip doesnt change every 24-48 hours11:36
SaberX01VanessaE, tht kinda threw me too the old Odd number thingy.11:36
ItsMeLennySaberX01, i just found i can check the disc integrity, so i'll run that on the usb and see if its algood, then i'll install the server11:36
ItsMeLennySaberX01, will it install the server things and make my computer accessable like a server11:36
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, sounds good11:36
hitsujiTMOcvtsx: still, setting up a nat vpn would still do you some good, would allow you to access the server form other locations, add an extra layer of security ( if you block off all other access to the server ) and allow you to bypass local isp blocks if you're stick in a situation where you cannot access particular sites11:37
ItsMeLennywhats that thing when someone types in my IP in the internet browser, i had it at one point, is that apache?11:37
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, just make sure to select OpenSSH and yes, you can SSH in / out and use it for SVN BZR GiT, or whatever ya want.11:37
cvtsxyeah i plan on using it for znc and vpn, and i dont have any restrictions11:37
hyper_chhi there, non-lts releases don't have an 18 month support anymore but I can't find out how long those are now being supported. Anyone knows?11:38
ItsMeLennySaberX01, i dont want to use it for those things :P is there a way not to install them11:38
ObrienDave9 months11:38
hyper_chObrienDave: thx11:39
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, Im pretty sure you want OpenSSH installed .. may also want the LAMP stack too.11:39
ItsMeLennywhat is LVM11:39
hitsujiTMOhyper_ch: full info here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS11:39
solisHello folks! New to ubuntu and linux and I stumbled upon a little issue and was hoping someone here could help me. I tried(and I think i did it successfully^^) to install my gfx drivers for my HD Radeon 5770 card. But when I start dota2 the "preparing to launch.." window pops up briefly and then disappears and the game wont start.. Tried a few different "additional drivers" and one works kind of, the game starts and I have sound but the11:39
solis screen is completely black. Any ideas?11:39
ObrienDaveLogical Volume Management11:39
hyper_chItsMeLenny: large volume manager11:39
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, You select what yo want installed, by default, no additional packages are installed.11:39
hyper_chlogical :)11:40
hyper_chhitsujiTMO: thx11:40
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, Logical Volume Manager/Management11:40
cvtsxthis is worrisome https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/abcc2a2d828b1624459cf8c4d2ccdfdcde62c8d1ab51e438db200ab3c5c8cd17/analysis/1387971387/11:40
hitsujiTMOsolis: how exactly did you install the gfx drivers?11:40
cvtsxi downloaded the exe from a link off amazons official site11:40
[[thufir]]for mp3's, any suggestions besides amazon or google, as neither work in canada?11:41
cvtsxdo you think its safe? havent ran it yet11:41
ItsMeLennydo i need reserved blocks?11:41
ItsMeLennyhavent done it this way for a while11:41
cvtsxboth norton and malwarebytes said it was safe11:41
SaberX01cvtsx, not for linux it's not.11:41
cvtsxim on windows right now11:41
MonkeyDusthyper_ch  http://ubuntuone.com/434GupdpZzDds9LCEcPyH511:41
SaberX01cvtsx, Im sorry :-) ..11:41
cvtsxwin 7 64bit11:41
hitsujiTMOcvtsx: download it from the official page: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html11:42
cvtsxbut i do got a ubuntu 64bit partition11:42
cvtsxhit thats where i got it from11:42
SaberX01cvtsx, Ubuntu is a good way to avoid all that.11:42
cvtsxlool so its safe? Im just a little paranoid11:42
solishitsujiTMO,  umm.. downloaded from AMD site and installed thru terminal(did some 'chmod +x file.run' and so on, found some guide to help me on the ubuntu forums)11:42
hitsujiTMOcvtsx: its safe11:43
cvtsxsaberx01 yeah but im on windows 95% of the time ;(11:43
cvtsxok11:43
SaberX01cvtsx, Linux can get virus and worms, but it's much harder due to the permission structure.11:43
hitsujiTMOsolis: yeah, thats the wrong way to install the fglrx driver.11:43
solisdoh :(11:43
ItsMeLennySaberX01, wont this mean i will have server kernels rather than generic?11:43
solishow do i reinstall it properly hitsujiTMO ? <311:43
cvtsxsaberx01 yeah i noticied since you got to manually allow programs to execute11:43
cvtsxi like that11:44
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, I jsut got educated on that .. it appears the server and desktop kernels ahve merged, so they be the same now days.11:44
hitsujiTMOsolis: lets see if it worked tho. can you run the following: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log11:44
ItsMeLennySaberX01, oh, well then :P11:44
ItsMeLennythat will cause me a lot less confusion11:44
cvtsxyeah when i first used ubuntu i was flipping shit cause i couldnt get minecraft to run loool11:44
ItsMeLennycvtsx, >_<11:45
solishitsujiTMO, Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.11:45
solis0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.11:45
solishttp://pastebin.com/PV8a2g5r11:45
solis last rows from that11:45
cvtsxhaha that was 1.5 years ago, im a little better now11:45
ItsMeLennyminecraft is about the only game that runs, and runescape, thanks to java11:45
ItsMeLennycvtsx, we forgive you11:45
cvtsxyeah, but i hate java11:45
cvtsxlool lenny11:45
ItsMeLennydont we all?11:45
SaberX01me too11:45
cvtsxi dont got that sh1t installed on windows 4sure11:46
ItsMeLennyjava, more like... poova11:46
ItsMeLennysee what i did there11:46
cvtsxlol11:46
MonkeyDustcvtsx  don't use that sh- word here, please11:46
cvtsxok11:46
ItsMeLennySaberX01, whats this http proxy access stuff11:46
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, skip it.11:47
ItsMeLennyeasy enough11:47
SaberX01Unless you want to fliter yourself for content :-)11:47
ItsMeLennyohhhh11:47
hitsujiTMOsolis: It does seem to be installed and active at least.11:47
ItsMeLennyright, a proxy11:47
ItsMeLennyi should probably make myself a filter :P11:47
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solishitsujiTMO, yeah thats what I thought too because prior to the installation steam told me to update my drivers which it doesnt anymore. Now I just have to figure out how to get dota2 to run instead of crashing even before startup hehe11:48
Kablamguys need osme help here please im 13.10 mini iso trying to install rutorrent/rtorrent/libtorrent/nginx thru a script and i get a error cant find package libdigest-sha1-perl.... what can i do?11:48
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sailendrahello there i am having problem with printing canon lbp 2900, i am using ubuntu 12.0411:49
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, Squid aka proxy .. not entry level stuff, neither is Devcot + Postfix, that' email stuff makes your head hut.11:49
SaberX01*hurt11:49
swordyHello11:50
hitsujiTMOsolis: for future reference, the normal way to install fglrx is through System Settings -> Software & Updates -> Additional Drivers. or installing fglrx package through apt-get. installing from amd site can lead to breakage after kernel updates11:50
solisok hitsujiTMO, but i tried that first, it was the same problem so tried it this way :( alot of errors when trying to start dota throguh terminal-launched steam: (steam:12018): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.11:52
solisany idea?11:52
Kablamsolis do you have amd a4-a10 cpu and use internal gfx?11:52
hitsujiTMOsolis: LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent. is just a warning11:53
solisKablam, i have intel i5 CPU and radeon HD 5770 it thats what you mean :P11:53
VanessaEwell here goes nothibng.11:53
* VanessaE reboots with 3.5.0-45....11:53
Kablamnope there is a bug with internal gfx in those amd cpus11:53
Kablamnvm ;)11:54
hitsujiTMOsolis: LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent. i've seen that a lot with SteamOS logs so can be safely ignored11:54
solistoo bad hitsujiTMO  :( would be nice if you saw that and went "aah! do X and Y and its fixed" hehe11:54
SaberX01How you do that in the channel, add the * outside adn nick inside like VanessaE just did?11:54
* solis uses /me11:55
hitsujiTMOSaberX01: ot but it's /me11:55
cummsengubuntu 13.10, how can i move notifications to the top right of the screen? they are appearing at the bottom right11:55
SaberX01hitsujiTMO, thanks.11:55
* SaberX01 I got it now 11:55
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cvtsxthis may sound dumb, but ubuntu doesnt have rdp huh11:56
cvtsxso i need to use putty11:56
cvtsxrdp = windows only?11:56
SaberX01cvtsx, Yes, has rdp .. but for most server things probably faster CLI via SSH11:57
hitsujiTMOcvtsx: you can use rdp with ubuntu or vnc or ssh or anything similar11:57
cvtsxok thanks11:57
ItsMeLennyso SaberX01, why do i want SSh and anything else11:57
cvtsxim only familiar with windows rdp11:57
SaberX01cvtsx, if you gonna run servers, may as well get used to command-line :-)11:57
solisso hitsujiTMO  u dont think its the drivers that is causing the issue?11:57
cvtsx(which is unsecure)11:57
ItsMeLennymanual package selection? virtual machine host?11:57
hitsujiTMOcvtsx: rdp requires a gui which is a waste of resources11:57
cvtsxsaberx01 yeah im going to have to ;)11:58
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cvtsxhit does it really waste enough to where you benefit more from command line?11:58
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, if you dont want it, is ok, I always install OpenSSH for keys, and the server if I need it.11:58
hitsujiTMOsolis: it could be, but i wouldn't just assume it without any direct evidence11:58
MonkeyDustcvtsx  ubuntu does have rdesktop11:58
cvtsxkk11:58
cvtsxthx11:58
ItsMeLennySaberX01, not sure what keys are, is manual package selection something i want? is thta what i need to be able to install ubuntu desktop11:59
solisok hitsujiTMO , just thought it was that because ive tried all the fixes out there I could find that werent gfx related from people with the same/similar issues :/11:59
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, SSH keys, you you can authenticate to other SSH servers / accounts .. we can go over that later.11:59
SaberX01Yes, Manual PKG selection is what you want.12:00
cvtsxhitsujiTMO: does it really waste enough to where you benefit more from command line?12:00
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, select that, then, whichever desktop you like.12:00
ItsMeLennyi dont think i want ssh accounts tho12:00
ItsMeLennyfuuuuuu, i pressed enter, and it didnt put it on, it instead skipped12:00
cvtsxloooooooool12:01
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, we can talk about that after, it's not critical right now.12:01
ItsMeLennyenter doesnt enable? gah ffs, now what do i do12:01
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, No worries, let the install finish.12:01
hitsujiTMOcvtsx: yes. using a graphical interface on a server is much slower that using commandline for most tasks. servers are optimised to be controlled from commandline12:01
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, no Space-bar selects.12:01
ItsMeLennydoes this mean i'll have to use apt >_<12:01
SaberX01No12:01
SaberX01Your gonna use Tasksel12:01
ItsMeLennyah12:02
cvtsxok thanks, this is my first time running a server (if you havent noticed lool)12:02
SaberX01Same Menu as you just saw.12:02
SaberX01= Tasksel12:02
ItsMeLennydidnt know i could bring it back12:02
SaberX01cvtsx, Yeah, we kinda got that impression :-) is ok, everyone isn the same boat at some point.12:02
hitsujiTMOcvtsx: plus, to do any configuration you'll just be opening the terminal anyway? why add that unnecessary layer of complexity by installing a graphical environment?12:02
cvtsxxD12:03
ItsMeLennyi'll be a pro server user by the time 14.04 comes out12:03
cvtsxyeah12:03
ItsMeLennythen again, 12.04 server is supported til the end of ages12:03
cvtsxlool lenny you setting up a server also?12:03
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, you can use tasksel on your desktop installs too .. just nobody thinks about it.12:03
ItsMeLennycvtsx, yeah, convinced by SaberX01, after the desktop failed massively multiple times, im not a happy camper right now :P12:03
SaberX01cvtsx, He's installing the srver CD, then adding a Desktop to it.12:03
cvtsxo12:04
cfhowlettItsMeLenny, 2017 is the end of ages?  good to know ...12:04
ItsMeLennySaberX01, i never knew what it was called, i would just use synaptiv12:04
cvtsxi just used the handy dandy windows installer12:04
ItsMeLennycfhowlett, yeah, its the ubuntu calender, thats when the world ends12:04
cvtsxlool12:04
MonkeyDustcvtsx  wubi?12:04
cvtsxyes12:04
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, Yep, in xterm, sudo tasksel .. gives you all sorts of easy install / removal options.12:04
MonkeyDustcvtsx  mind: that's a windows application, not a real installation and more lilited than one12:05
ItsMeLennySaberX01, this grub, if i install to master boot record, will it install to /dev/sdd or will it go onto my important file hard drive and break everything12:05
MonkeyDustlimited*12:05
cvtsxreally? in what way?12:05
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, yes, install the MBR12:05
cfhowlettcvtsx, wubi is unstable on its best day.  PLUS it's being downgraded/discontinued and not recommended for anything other than TESTING ubuntu12:05
SaberX01Then Grub Becomes your boot manager.12:06
ItsMeLennySaberX01, install to the MBR, i dont want it to end up on /dev/sda tho12:06
MonkeyDustcvtsx  for one, it cannot be upgraded and it sits inside windows, not alongside and independent of it12:06
cvtsxhhmmm should i delete the partition i got and make a new one/install it manually?12:06
cfhowlettcvtsx, if you're not going to dual boot, at least consider virtualbox.  You're server will thank you.12:06
cvtsxi am dual booting12:06
cfhowlettcvtsx, wubi is NOT dual booting12:06
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, Whats on /dev/sda ?12:06
ItsMeLennyCRAP IT TRIED TO12:07
MonkeyDustcvtsx  wubi means 'will ultimatley be ineffective'12:07
ItsMeLennymy important files are on /dev/sda12:07
cvtsxlool how is not dual booting? i didnt know this ;(12:07
ItsMeLennyhyperventilating12:07
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, You already gone through the partitioning section?12:08
cfhowlettcvtsx, as monkeydust pointed out ... PLUS you seem to be ignoring that wubi, by design, if for TESTING, not for long-term installation or use12:08
ItsMeLennySaberX01, yeah12:08
ItsMeLennythat was ages ago12:08
bamphomethowdy12:08
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, You shoudl be Ok, MBR not gonna wipe your data files.12:08
ItsMeLennypretty sure the OS installed on /dev/sdd12:09
cvtsxo man xD. i rarely use my ubuntu partition anyways12:09
ItsMeLennyit failed when it tried to12:09
cvtsxbut i will delete it and install manually12:09
ItsMeLennyon /dev/sda12:09
cvtsxanyways with putty should i use a sock 5 proxy?12:09
ItsMeLennyok its installing to dev sdd12:09
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, Yes, the /boot /root /home etc etc, that's where you files would get whiped out from.12:09
ItsMeLennybut now i am shitting myself, maybe literally12:09
ItsMeLennyoh12:09
SaberX01You in good shape then12:10
ItsMeLennyall my files are straight on, "no partition"12:10
ItsMeLennythe 2 file hard drives i have12:10
ItsMeLennyhave no partition12:10
ItsMeLennySaberX01, installation is complete, should i reboot it, or should i "go back" to install more files12:11
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SaberX01ItsMeLenny, I'd have to research this but normall the MBR is on the first drive found, /dev/sda ... but that' doesn't mean you have to install the OS there, you can do as you've done, /dev/sdd12:11
ItsMeLennyi never have the MBR on the first drive12:11
ItsMeLennybecause of the odd way my computer numbers the drives12:11
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, Yes, pull the install media and boot.12:12
ItsMeLennyooooh, linux kernel 3.8 on server?12:13
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, then once your at terminal prompt, login, then update and upgrade before Tasksel12:13
ItsMeLennyoh, its using the raring kernel?12:14
SaberX01dont worry about that yet12:14
ItsMeLennythats fine, i needed a later kernel12:14
SaberX01lets get logged in then update && upgrade12:14
ItsMeLennydoing so now12:14
ItsMeLennyi used apt12:14
SaberX01after the upgrade, we'll do Tasksel ... install your Desktop .. then reboot.12:14
ItsMeLennyi use cinnamon instead of unity, so i wonder if it would be better to just install cinnamon rather than ubuntu desktop12:15
ItsMeLennyand if that is the case i should add the cinnamon ppa12:15
SaberX01then update && dist-upgrade for the latest Kernel12:15
Abhijithi. i get error FATAL -> Failed to fork. while trying to install any package. 12.04. help.12:15
ItsMeLennyshould i reboot after the upgrade12:15
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, dont do any PPA's until after we get a working Ubuntu Desktop12:16
SaberX01or LDXE / XFCE12:16
ItsMeLennyyeah, but im saying, because i dont use any of them ultimately, i use cinnamon from linux mint12:16
SaberX01I can't help with that one.12:16
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ItsMeLennySaberX01, ah ok, i'll just do it this way12:16
ItsMeLennyshould i reboot after upgrade for the new kernel?12:17
SaberX01did you do update && upgrade?12:17
ItsMeLennyits just finishing the upgrade part12:17
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, ok then do: sudo tasksel12:18
cvtsxok so i got my private putty key (.ppk) and am connected to the server12:18
ItsMeLennybefore a reboot/12:18
cvtsxits asking "log in as", what do i do?12:18
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, then arrow down to ubuntu-desktop, hit space-bar, then TAB to OK12:18
ItsMeLennySaberX01, ok, we'll see how large it is :P12:18
cvtsxnvm i found some documentation ;)12:19
ItsMeLennywhys there an ubuntu desktop usb12:19
yash069Abhijit: ram problem. ur all ram & swap is full. upgrade ur ram, or kill some unwanted processes12:19
ItsMeLenny2d/3d creation and editing suite12:19
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, I dont know .. but you need that working first, then we can do the dist-upgrade from within Ubuntu Desktop12:19
ItsMeLennyinteresting stuff in there12:19
ItsMeLennyso just "ubuntu desktop"12:20
SaberX01After you install a desktop, there's allot more available in Tasksel12:20
ItsMeLennyor does it have to have a - in between because that not in there12:20
ItsMeLennyah12:20
SaberX01Yes ubuntu-desktop12:20
ItsMeLennyoh12:20
ItsMeLennytheres no ubuntu-desktop12:20
SaberX01Space Bar, tab to OK12:20
ItsMeLennyonly ubuntu desktop12:20
ItsMeLennyand ubuntu desktop usb12:20
SaberX01Use Arrow key to go below whats visable12:20
ItsMeLennyits all visible12:21
SaberX01and no ubuntu desktop ?12:21
ItsMeLennyshould i do "manual package selection" will it be in there?12:21
ItsMeLennytheres "ubuntu desktop" but none thats "ubuntu-desktop"12:21
SaberX01select "ubuntu desktop"12:21
ItsMeLennylol ok, sorry :p12:22
SaberX01with space bar, then tab to OK, then enter.12:22
SaberX01then go grab a beer, gonna be a while,12:22
ItsMeLennyi hit enter, not tab12:22
ObrienDave2 beers12:22
ItsMeLennyand now its pushed the screen up12:22
SaberX01prob like 250MB or so Id guess.12:22
VanessaEwell I give up.  3.5 kernel did no good.  newest video driver too.  this stupid thing just refuses to properly enter S3 suspend.12:22
VanessaE(or rather, it shuts off when it should sleep)12:22
ItsMeLennysave me SaberX01 i broke it12:23
SaberX01You can't break it :-)12:23
mobeguyhi guys12:23
ItsMeLennyoh, now it says "extracting templates from packages"12:23
ItsMeLennypretty sure i broke it :P12:23
ObrienDaveItsMeLenny, patience ;P12:23
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mobeguysince a few days I always get a "system program problem detected" message whenever I start my computer. How can I find out what causes that?12:23
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, is you selected the ubuntu desktop, it's rolling, sit back and relax :-)12:23
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ItsMeLennyoh, its working :P12:24
SaberX01Indeed :-)12:24
ItsMeLenny965 packages12:24
ItsMeLennySaberX01, you realise this is exactly what i wanted to avoid :P because of how slow the internet is12:24
mobeguy_sorry, firefox keeps crashing on me all the time too.12:25
ItsMeLennymobeguy, yeah my firefox would continusouly crash aswell, even after updates, dunno what the hell is wrong with it12:25
ItsMeLennymobeguy_, ^12:25
mobeguy_ItsMeLenny: so its not just me, phew :D12:26
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, all of the installs download some from the internet, mayeb this way it's a bit more, but, we have a working shell, which is important.12:26
ItsMeLennymobeguy_, i had multiple versions after versions, so many pages would crash it, might be the newer firefoxes?12:26
mobeguy_ItsMeLenny: possible. but I can use another browser if it gets worse, so that's not my main concern even though its annoying12:27
ItsMeLennySaberX01, yeah but if i have the ubuntu-desktop in the iso already means i can install it multiple times without having to download each time12:27
ItsMeLennymobeguy_, mine got annoying :P12:27
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mobeguy_ItsMeLenny: I am more worried about the random "system program problem detected" at every startup. Is there a way to find out what causes it?12:27
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, well that be true, but I could walk you through this install with my eyes closed, and the sucess rate is normally very high.12:28
ItsMeLennymobeguy_, is that in firefox?12:28
ItsMeLennymobeguy_, ive never experienced that12:28
mobeguy_ItsMeLenny: no, that is a system message. not related to firefox i assume12:28
Abhijityash069, ok12:28
mobeguy_ItsMeLenny: I only said that about firefox because it just kicked me out of the channel (am using webchat right  now)12:29
ItsMeLennySaberX01, yeah, this way seems more stable than the livecds, i just shouldnt have borked my system in the first place, all to try to get GTA:SA to run in wine, because it used to! then no idea why it doesnt anymore12:29
yash069Abhijit: also you might be out of PIDs. if not ram12:29
ItsMeLennymobeguy_, yeah i thought as much, you should be able to get mobeguy back now12:29
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SaberX01ItsMeLenny, Install server ... add desktop, can't get much easier than that.12:30
cvtsxok cool i on my vps through putty12:30
ItsMeLennySaberX01, true, but what would be easier is, install server with desktop :P12:30
ItsMeLennyi could always make my own iso12:30
cvtsxand to install znc all i do is 'sudo apt-get install znc'12:30
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SaberX01ItsMeLenny, well you went too fast first time around or we'd be doing that :-)12:31
ItsMeLennySaberX01, true, but the desktop would still have to download right?12:31
Abhijityash069, there is limit on PIDs? Why would anyone put limit on PIDs? How Do i remove that limit?12:31
SaberX01Yes12:31
ItsMeLenny:P12:31
ItsMeLennySaberX01, thanks very much for the help btw12:31
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, I do install testing for Ubuntu-QA, and after 100's if not 1000's of installs, this method, I can assure you works :-)12:32
cvtsxyeah saber thx for initially helping me with the vps (when it was obv i had no idea what i am doing)12:32
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, May not be the fastest, but normally delivers the goods. And if you have FGLX issues, you knwo you have a workign shell you cna seal wiht it in.12:33
Abhijityash069, ?12:33
yash069Abhijit: cat /proc/sys/kernel/pid_max12:33
win5hithi there, Merry Christmas!12:33
SaberX01can deal .. ..12:33
Abhijityash069, 3276812:34
ItsMeLennyumm SaberX01... i walked away from the computer, and now that i came back, the screen is black12:34
ObrienDavepress a key, rattle the mouse12:34
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, we could have just used: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop .. but wanted you to see how Tasksel works.12:34
cvtsxand to install znc all i do is 'sudo apt-get install znc'12:35
ItsMeLennyoh, the key press worked12:35
ItsMeLenny:P12:35
SaberX01:-)12:35
yash069that enough, i guess.... paste ur free 's output http://paste.ubuntu.com/12:35
yash069^, Abhijit12:35
ItsMeLennySaberX01, yeah i thought as much about that, but i wanted to see how tasksel works also :P12:35
SaberX01Arrow keys good to bring that back.12:35
ObrienDavescreensaver, gets 'em every time ROFL12:35
ItsMeLennyapt-get would probably give me more details about how big this download is12:35
win5hiti'd like to create a ramdisk within a ubuntu 13.10 desktop 64 booted from usb stick(live). my question is: is ubuntu (live) using a ramdisk? can i use /dev/ram0?12:35
ItsMeLennyObrienDave, but it was in tasksel, didnt know their was a screensaver12:36
Abhijityash069, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6633943/12:36
win5hit (It's not listed under mounted volumes... but there maybe magic somewhere)12:36
ItsMeLennyand i was afraid spaicebar would somehow cancel it12:36
cvtsxok i need a little help ;)12:36
ItsMeLennywin5hit, are you actually win five hit, or is your name actually how i keep seeing it12:36
ObrienDaveItsMeLenny, not laughing at you, bud. afaik, there is always a screensaver active until you turn it off12:37
yash069Abhijit: y u no have swap ?12:38
Tachyon`hi, does this channel deal with the new ubuntu for android devices or just the more traditional sort?12:38
Abhijityash069, rackspace installed all this for me. ddnt asked me for swap.12:38
yash069you shoud always have a swap partion of 2.5x of ur RAM12:38
ItsMeLennyObrienDave, even in terminal?12:38
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, Thosr taskse menu's are ncurses Whiptail or Dialog .. I sue them allot for scripts used in CLI env.12:38
ItsMeLennythere was never one in DOS12:38
ObrienDaveItsMeLenny, you are NOT running DOS anymore ;P12:39
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, helps with those that are truly CLI challenged.12:39
Rory!touch | Tachyon`12:39
ubottuTachyon`: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch12:39
ItsMeLenny:P12:39
cvtsxi installed znc (sudo apt-get install znc/precise-backports znc-dbg/precise-backports znc-dev/precise-backports znc-extra/precise-backports znc-perl/precise-backports znc-python/precise-backports znc-tcl/precise-backports) but get this error http://i.imgur.com/8bL5k7V.png12:39
Tachyon`ah, thankyou12:39
Rorycvtsx: That's now how you install znc12:39
cvtsxwell not error, just packages arent found12:39
win5hitItsMeLenny: hi there, my nick is not ment to be "offensive". it's back from those dasy when u had to boot windows from dos by entering "win"... and if u did something wrong in the config(or drivers e.g. mscdex) it was immediately followed by "shit"... thats all.12:39
ItsMeLennyObrienDave, my first computer was DOS, despite the fact of being on linux for quite a few years now, my roots are in DOS, compaq prolinea 1994 windows 3.112:40
cvtsxRory: it didnt find some of the packages though12:40
Rorycvtsx: Where told you to run that command? Those are package repositories12:40
cfhowlett!touch|Tachyon`,12:40
ubottuTachyon`,: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch12:40
tsimpsoncvtsx: did you actually enable backports first?12:40
cvtsxhttp://wiki.znc.in/Installation#Ubuntu_12.0412:40
cfhowlettTachyon`, this channel is for laptop/desktop installation12:40
ItsMeLennywin5hit, :P i didnt find it offensive regardless, just curious12:40
cvtsxtsimposon: nope, i am new to servers and such12:40
cvtsxhow do i do that?12:40
tsimpsoncvtsx: you need to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and either uncomment the lines with precise-backports (if it's there) or add them if not12:41
cvtsxall i did was c/p that command12:41
win5hitItsMeLenny: just to clarify things... ;) i get asked a lot... most expect troll or smthg...12:41
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tsimpsoncvtsx: uncomment means remove the leading '#' character12:41
cvtsxyeah, but how do i access it12:41
win5hitback to the ramdisk.... i did a lsof | grep /dev/ram... nothing showed up... so i think i can use it?!12:42
tsimpsoncvtsx: you probably have nano installed, so "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list", edit the file and use Ctrl-O to save and Ctrl-X to exit12:42
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cvtsxthanks12:43
yash069Abhijit: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq12:43
jamesarnettHas anyone here ever used bootcamp to load ubuntu on a MacBook Pro12:43
cfhowlett!mac|jamesarnett,12:43
ubottujamesarnett,: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages12:43
jamesarnettAwesome man thanks12:43
jamesarnettcfhowlett: hahaha yeah but in my defense i bought a 3 month old macbook pro with a warranty for 30012:44
ItsMeLennywin5hit, i just thought you thought windows was shit, and i probably wouldve agreed :P12:44
SaberX01Probably gonna be alott of MacDaddy Q's today with all the new toys out there.12:44
Abhijityash069, ok12:44
Lucid_LynxHi, how do i reset the gnome-panel ?12:44
cvtsxtsimpson: The only comments that were there wasnt anything important, just explanations12:44
cvtsxeverything that looked useful was uncommented12:44
Lucid_Lynxgnome-panel --reset ?12:45
SaberX01cvtsx, you done an update && upgrade ?12:45
ItsMeLennySaberX01, its finished downloading, 25 minutes later?, guess thats not so bad12:45
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, not bad if it works :-)12:45
Lucid_Lynxman gnome-panel does not mention...12:45
cvtsxnope saber12:45
ItsMeLennySaberX01, :P if this doesnt work, its your head12:46
cfhowlettjamesarnett, from what I've read (having not joined the fruity computer club) full support for the new toys lags until the hacks are figured out by the community.12:46
SaberX01cvtsx, on UBuntu, before installing SW and things, shouls always do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade12:46
cvtsxtsimpson: here ya go http://i.imgur.com/Bs31487.png12:46
cfhowlettcvtsx, and probably even sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   ^^^12:46
jamesarnettcfhowlett: Yes i have read the same stuff12:47
cvtsxsaberx01 kk thanks, il keep that in my mind ;)12:47
tsimpsoncvtsx: at the bottom of the image you see lines with precise-backports12:47
tsimpsonuncomment them12:47
jamesarnettcfhowlett: nice punn!!12:47
cfhowlettjamesarnett, seems you got a deal ... it fell of a truck?12:47
SaberX01cvtsx, Update brings your source list up to date, upgrade updates the packages.12:47
jamesarnettcfhowlett: probably spelt that wrong12:47
cvtsxk thanks guys12:47
jamesarnettcfhowlett: i dont think the person knew what they had? they got it for cheap through a school deal12:48
cvtsxtsimpson: i missed that, thanks12:48
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SaberX01you should be good after enabling bakports .. znc is showing up in the repos12:49
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cvtsxtsimpson: so should i uncomment all those packages?12:49
SaberX01but you have to to the update before it will show12:50
tsimpsoncvtsx: the two lines with precise-backports, yes12:50
cvtsxi updated, thanks saber ;)12:50
SaberX01tsimpson, ap-cache show znc says it's in universe/net ...?12:51
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, not hearing any screams from your direction, desktop working?12:53
cvtsxsave it in what format?12:53
tsimpsonSaberX01: universe is the section of the repository the package is in, backports is the repository with the latest version12:53
Lucid_Lynxk, got it..12:54
ItsMeLennySaberX01, still installing12:54
ItsMeLennyyour safe for another 33% :P12:54
SaberX01tsimpson, I see, how can I see that on the package info itself ?12:54
cvtsxhttp://i.imgur.com/oxBwiXg.png12:54
cvtsxwhich one?12:54
SaberX01hit enter12:55
cvtsxxD12:55
ItsMeLennyObrienDave, screensavers scared me 3 times now :P12:55
tsimpsonSaberX01: if you look at "apt-cache policy znc" it should list all the versions and repositories12:55
cvtsxnow should i try and reinstall znc? i have updated and added backports12:55
SaberX01tsimpson, rr thanks will ahve a look12:56
ObrienDaveItsMeLenny, LOL ;)12:56
ObrienDaveItsMeLenny, my 1st computer was a C-64 ;P12:57
ItsMeLennywhat kind of chip was in that? a dorito12:57
ObrienDave6502 iirc12:57
ArchSurflol12:57
cvtsxdamn, my first was an imac g312:57
SaberX01tsimpson, yup that shows it clearly .. backport is 1.0.2 ..12:58
SaberX01TRS-80 wiht a big ole Tape Drive and Dual Floppoes, thought I was top of the rock then.12:58
ObrienDaveItsMeLenny, I had a FORTRAN programming class in 1971. we used REAL punched cards. ROFL12:58
SaberX01and HP-920 to that was cools.12:58
cvtsxmy first was an imac g3 but thats after they were discontuned for 3 years12:59
SaberX01ObrienDave, you was around then wiht the 8080 Xe's and such.12:59
SaberX01big ole 10" / 12" floppy's :-)12:59
ObrienDaveoh yea, i remember when they were brand new :)12:59
ObrienDave8" floppies13:00
SaberX01Yeah somethign like that, jsut rememebr they were huge13:00
ObrienDave140K on a floppy. iirc13:01
SaberX01Im trying to remember the first DB I wrote .. was a weather collection DB written in Dbase-1 or II can't recall which.13:02
ItsMeLennyObrienDave, anything interesting that you programmed on those punch cards?13:02
ItsMeLennySaberX01, it finished! now what?13:02
SaberX01I'd reboot.13:02
ObrienDavena, i was a freshman in high school then13:02
SaberX01then when the desktop comes up .. open xterm and if you want, dist-upgrade13:02
ItsMeLennySaberX01, will it boot straight in, or do i have to do startx13:03
SaberX01Shoutl boot to lightdm13:03
SaberX01login screen13:03
ItsMeLennywhat is dist-upgrade for?13:03
SaberX01Upgrades the Kernel to the latest 12.04.3 Kernel13:03
ItsMeLennyoh13:04
ItsMeLennyWOOT! no more purple ubuntu screen13:04
ItsMeLennythat's a releif13:04
ObrienDaveI use dist-updrade always13:04
neongasIs it possible to just put entire .deb packages in incoming directory of reprepro? I don't have the .changes files for the packages I want to add.13:04
SaberX01whish is like 3.5.0-44 or there abouts.13:04
ItsMeLennyomg so beautiful! this was when unity was a bit better, more responsive13:04
ObrienDave*dist-upgrade13:04
cvtsxok i am stuck, i tried doing what tsimp said and i am still not getting it to work13:05
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SaberX01ObrienDave, I dont, I do the upgrades first, then, selectively upgrade the kernels, and read on any critical issues first normally.13:05
cvtsxif this means anything i did cntrl+s after i uncommented those packages13:06
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ObrienDavenot me, dang the torpedos, full steam ahead!13:06
SaberX01LOL13:06
XATRIXHi, i want to copy /etc/corosync/authkey to another server, i do sudo /etc/corosync/authkey vox2-ua:/etc/corosync13:06
XATRIXit asks me a root password13:06
XATRIXWhich one should i specify ?13:06
SaberX01cvtsx, easy way to use Nano: open the file, edit, Ctrl+x .. then Y to save.13:06
cvtsxk will cntrl+s do anything?13:07
ItsMeLennySaberX01, does update manager update the kernels anyway?13:07
ObrienDaveupdate manager will from GUI13:07
SaberX01I don't think so. Synaptic Upd Manager does .13:07
ItsMeLennyomg, what is the server password D=13:08
SaberX01I take that back, depends on yoru selections. I never use it, so not up on all the optins really.13:08
ObrienDaveapt-get update will not do kernels from CLI13:08
ItsMeLennyah13:08
cvtsxbrb in 2 mins13:08
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, You get booted into UB Desktop ?13:08
cvtsxalso still not found ;( and i uncommented everything although i proabably shouldnt have13:09
cvtsxanyways to revert back to default?13:09
ItsMeLennySaberX01, yeah13:09
ItsMeLennybut the root password isnt my password13:09
SaberX01ItsMeLenny,  :-) ok .. Im off the hook now .. lol13:09
SaberX01you shoudl not be using root13:09
ItsMeLennylol yes you are, thank you very much13:09
ItsMeLennySaberX01, im not, but when i want to...13:10
ItsMeLennywhen i want to gksu something13:10
SaberX0199.999 of the time is sudo13:10
ObrienDaveItsMeLenny, use sudo, it's much safer13:10
ItsMeLennybut when i gksu nautilus13:10
ItsMeLennyor what not13:10
SaberX01ok, there's a difference between sudo and root, dont use root.13:10
ItsMeLennyi was told always use gksu for gui stuff13:10
ItsMeLennyoh13:10
SaberX01gksu is sudo, that's ok.13:11
cvtsxSaberX01: anyways to revert to default?13:11
SaberX01you can leave backports uncommented, did you do an update after saving your source list?13:11
manish_Hello everybody13:12
cvtsxyeah still didnt get anything lool13:12
cfhowlettmanish_, greetings13:12
cvtsxi would like to just start off clean and retry13:12
SaberX01that's very odd, as it's in the standard repos as well.13:12
cvtsxdo everything correctly this time13:12
ObrienDaveclean, as in repos?13:12
cvtsxclean install13:13
ItsMeLennygotta install my nvidia drivers13:13
SaberX01maybe, but trt: sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get clean13:13
SaberX01then sudo apt-get update13:13
cvtsxwhat will that do?13:13
SaberX01clean downloaded files, clean your apt-cache, and update the cache list again13:14
cfhowlettcvtsx, and apt-get autoremove13:14
SaberX01that gets rid of uneeded dep files13:14
cvtsxwell saber i am just worried because i kinda uncommented some stuff i am pretty sure i shouldnt have13:14
siwicahow do I format a usb drive?13:14
siwica(command line)13:14
ice9only Nautilus window title bar disappeared, how to fix it?13:15
cvtsxi just want to format then start right13:15
SaberX01cfhowlett, maybe you cna help, he tryign to install znc but it's not being found.13:15
ItsMeLennyon reboot my computer froze in the bios, why does that happen13:15
manish_siwica: try sudo mkfs.vfat -v /dev/<sd?>13:15
manish_siwica: where /dev/sdx is your device node13:15
ItsMeLennyand now on boot my computer just randomly rebooted13:15
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, that Im not sure about.13:15
cfhowlettSaberX01, worst case: go to the package site, grab the deb and dpkg -i13:16
ItsMeLennymust be the power in this house, the motherboard is meant to have expensive caps13:16
ItsMeLennymaybe its the power supply actually13:16
SaberX01You may have some hardware issues there somwhere... maybe PSU glitch or something?13:16
cfhowlettItsMeLenny, random reboots are a sign of potential serious issue.  suggest you devote some effort to the fixing thereof13:17
SaberX01cfhowlett, Is not me is cvtsx needs it, is what we're trying to get done fer him.13:17
ItsMeLennyi originally had an expensive corsair power supply which blew up, and the shop replaced it under warranty with a different brand for one half the value, an antec i think, which are still good, but13:17
cvtsxi am pretty sure i (you) got it. THANKS ;)13:17
cvtsxinstalled (pretty sure) ;)13:18
ItsMeLennycfhowlett, yeah but sometimes they never happen, replaced my seagates multiple times as they had bad sectors, now on WD, but when it doesnt even get to the HDD musnt be it, on top of that theres issues with the power in this house13:18
SaberX01Cool !13:18
cvtsxhow to set up znc is the question now ;)13:18
cfhowlettItsMeLenny, get a good surge suppressor sounds like ...13:18
ObrienDave^^^ agrees13:18
ice9nautilus and settings windows border are broken like this one: http://askubuntu.com/questions/362247/nautilus-header-bar-missing-ubuntu-gnome-13-10-gnome-3-1013:19
ItsMeLennythat might be a good idea13:19
ItsMeLennytheyve screwed up nautilus in the latest ubuntu, and the disk utiltiy13:20
SaberX01cvtsx, to test if a package is installed, couple simple one liners:  dpkg -s <packagename> or dpkg-query -l <packagename>13:20
SaberX01You can get allot more fancy, but that's a quick one.13:20
cvtsxwhat would be the package name?13:21
SaberX01cvtsx, Example: dpkg -s znc13:22
SaberX01or dpkg-query -l znc13:22
cvtsxlol k i put znc in between the '<>'13:22
cvtsxthats why i was getting an error13:22
cvtsxdo you got any resources to learn cmd line for ubuntu?13:23
SaberX01cvtsx, here's install & config info: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-install-znc-an-irc-bouncer-on-an-ubuntu-vps13:23
SaberX01!manual | cvsx13:23
ubottucvsx: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/13:23
SaberX01Has a good entry level sectoin and a more advanced section.13:23
cvtsxthanks saber ;)13:23
solarradiationhow do i adjust my usb hard drive's time-before-spinning down?13:25
cfhowlettcvtsx, "the linux command line" and "the ubuntu pocket guide" are free .pdf13:25
cvtsxil check them out, thanks13:25
ice9the global menu items are inactive, in all applications13:26
SaberX01There's lots of them ... bash and CLI abound these days.13:26
Rorysolarradiation: Take a look at "hdparm" - "sudo hdparm -I /dev/sdb | grep level" will show you the current spin-down time for /dev/sdb13:27
Rorysolarradiation: more info here http://askubuntu.com/a/3976413:27
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, Ok you all up and running .. and cvtsx on his way, Im gonna go catch a nap, Ho Ho Ho stuff starting here soon, CUAL13:27
ItsMeLennySaberX01, certainly am, it feels more stable than regular desktop, that might be a placebo, and thats besides the couple of freezes but that was in bios13:28
ItsMeLennythanks so much, i have a tonne of installing to do, have to put cinnamon on, as much as i have tried i really cant stand unity13:28
ItsMeLennyi like some of its features, and hate others, it was better in 12.04, they messed it up a little13:29
solisSo I finally managed to get my dota2 to work(theres some bug apparently so cant run it in fullscreen) and now my issue is that the13:29
yyyyyyyyjj13:29
solis'bar' at the top for the OS pushes down the game outside of the monitor, anyone know how to fix?13:29
cvtsxc ya saber13:29
cvtsxand thanks man13:30
ItsMeLennyi think i'll stay with default wine this time, instead of ppa wine13:30
yyyyyyyyhi13:30
ItsMeLennyyyyyyyyy, allo13:30
zxdhi13:30
yyyyyyyyhllo13:31
yyyyyyyyheloo13:31
yyyyyyyyhello13:31
DarrylMarry Christmas everyone.13:31
ObrienDaveMerry Krishna, Bah Humbug, and all that ;P13:31
DarrylI ment Merry sorry for typing error.13:32
DarrylXD13:32
XATRIXCan i use sudo -s to use constant root environment while i setup the sever ?13:34
siwicamanish_: thank you. I always get either "/dev/sdb: No medium found" or "mkfs.vfat: unable to open /dev/sdb1: Device or resource busy" though13:34
XATRIXAfter i finish i'll use sudo as a usual13:34
BluesKajMerry Christmas to all !13:36
Rory!humbug13:37
Roryaww13:37
ItsMeLennygotta switch all my fonts to courier 10 pitch13:38
BluesKajBah ,too bad for you , Rory :)13:38
ItsMeLennyBluesKaj, my christmas just ended13:38
BluesKajbbiab13:39
cvtsxhow to format to a clean install in ubuntu 12.04?13:39
cvtsxidc if i loose data13:39
ItsMeLennycvtsx, just reinstall?13:39
cfhowlettcvtsx, choose partition, choose format (ext4) and format away13:40
cvtsxon a server, i am using a putty13:40
hitsujiTMOcvtsx: you need to start the reinstall from your providers control panel13:40
cvtsxok thanks13:40
XATRIXAlso, why when i do sudo reboot, my Ubuntu 13 shuts down my server ?13:45
XATRIXIt doesn't restart , it halts the server13:45
BalzyXATRIX could be something related to BIOS power settings?13:48
XATRIXBalzy: What kind of ?13:48
Balzyit's quite a strange behavior13:48
XATRIXSure13:48
ItsMeLennySaberX01, thanks again for your help, im off to bed, got a big day tomorrow installing more and more files13:48
ItsMeLennyand thanks to anyone else who chipped in13:49
XATRIXUbuntu on my laptop, doesn't even restart my PC, hangs after "* Will halt now"13:49
cvtsxhow do i look for directories through command line?13:49
cvtsxubuntu 12.0413:49
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Balzynever had such a problem, look for something related to restoring power, mine has an option to set the behavior after a power loss, maybe something like that13:50
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BalzyOr it could be linux's fault, not recognising the hardware properly/sending the wrong signal13:52
Balzyyou should wait for someone more expert13:52
MonkeyDustBalzy  try          sudo init 6        to reboot13:52
BalzyMonkeyDust it's XATRIX who's asking ;)13:53
MonkeyDustXATRIX   try          sudo init 6        to reboot13:53
cvtsxwhat is this doing on my vps? I installed znc and this was under one of the znc directories13:54
cvtsx"/etc/ssl/certs/Wells_Fargo_Root_CA.pem"13:54
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djtorr3MERRY CHRISTMAS UBUNTU USERS13:57
cvtsxmerry christmas (even though your a few hours late)13:57
djtorr31 hour to go for christmas here13:58
brownfoxany one get Ubuntu swag for Christmas this year???13:58
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cvtsxAnyways anyone know how to format a ubuntu vps through command line? I want a fresh install13:58
cvtsxdj where you at?13:58
cokuapo ellada kaneis?13:58
MonkeyDust!gr13:58
ubottu#ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes13:58
cvtsxhmm europe13:59
cvtsxim not one for the holidays though13:59
djtorr3cvtsx, Korea14:00
cvtsxo14:00
djtorr3brownfox, no, but i got an ultrabook i'm gonna dual boot to Ubuntu on14:00
cokupos alazo room?14:01
cvtsxis xmas big in Korea? (assuming your not a USA serviceman)14:01
cvtsxwhat kind of ultraboot?14:01
cvtsxAnd i guess you guys do got Catholics in Korea, right?14:01
djtorr3cvtsx, I'm US, christmas is soso.  it's not as big in the US with the christmas giving14:01
djtorr3cvtsx, I got an ASUS book, i'll see if i can't find it14:02
BluesKaj!gr | coku14:02
ubottucoku: #ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes14:02
cvtsxo nice i like ultrabooks14:02
brownfoxI got a lenovo ultrabook last year... heck of a time getting it to dual boot. But it's my understanding that it was that particular model14:02
BluesKajlenovo here as well, had to use legacy mode14:03
brownfox@BluesKaj it dawns on me that after all of this I should have used Wubi14:04
djtorr3http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683423111614:04
djtorr3thats the book i got14:04
BluesKajdjtorr3, i removed w8 , and repartitioned for ntfs, ext4 and swap14:05
BluesKajbrownfox, wubi  is not worth the trouble , a vm maybe ,but i'm partial to dual booting14:06
djtorr3BluesKaj, i thought about removing W8, but my desktop has windows 8 too, so i decided to keep it so that I can work with my desktop14:06
backboxhi14:08
backboxclear14:08
backboxhi14:08
backboxhello14:08
MonkeyDustbackbox  it works, we see you14:08
cbh2hi14:08
BluesKajgj i\m sure there's a method to install ub8ntu beside w8 , but I went with W7 which is much simpler to install ...not a w8 fan anyway14:09
BluesKajdjtorr3,^14:09
cfhowlett_cbh2, greetings14:10
BluesKajerr ubuntu :)14:10
LvMisesIs the mail tab at the top right of Ubuntu 12.04 supposed to give me any indication when I have a new mail in my inbox or do I have to manually check each time in Thunderbird?  It's linked and when I click it and select Mail it launches thunderbird14:10
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solisWhat to do when a few of the system settings icons have disappeared? (auto start and audio settings)14:12
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djtorr3i dont mind w814:16
djtorr3a lot of haters, but tbh it's grown on me14:16
djtorr3but to be fair i removed a lot of features that w8 introduced14:16
BluesKajdjtorr3, the classic shell makes the desktop and start button/apps more manageable14:28
stephan66First of all: Happy holidays to all14:32
BluesKajMerry Christmas, stephan6614:34
stephan66After a ~recent update of a 12.04 install the Broadcom BCM4313 Wifi connection stopped working. Is ther someone her eable to explain why and how I can fix it?14:34
stephan66Hi BluesKaj14:35
Lucid_LynxNTRS..14:35
cfhowlett_stephan, probably got a kernel upgrade and the wifi driver didn't take to it14:36
BluesKajstephan66, sudo modprobe b4314:37
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OerHeksYes.15:05
bartek_ktos z polski?;p15:22
Myrtti!pl | bartek_15:22
ubottubartek_: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.15:22
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cvtsxhow do i format a drive in ubuntu command line?15:27
Hydr0p0nXmkfs15:28
ytomy wifi laptop doesnt work in ubuntu. plz help me?15:31
Hydr0p0nXwhat doesn't work ?15:32
solisHow do I install the 32bit packages? :o (for my amd radeon card)15:33
Your_Dogmerry christmas guys, is there a way to use additional drivers via command line?15:33
mbroekerYour_Dog, just use "jockey-text"15:34
ytomy wireless card of laptop doesnt work. help me15:34
Your_Dogah, thank you.15:34
Hydr0p0nXis there a 3.11 kernel for 12.04.3 ?15:35
Hydr0p0nXor just the generic, mainline ?15:35
mbroekerHydr0p0nX, the current kernel for 12.04.3 is 3.815:36
Hydr0p0nXthought so ... the current 3.8 builds don't support my hdmi audio out15:37
MonkeyDustHydr0p0nX  you can install a newer kernel, 3.12 is also available15:37
Hydr0p0nX3.11.10 fixed it15:37
MonkeyDustHydr0p0nX  but... know what you're doing15:37
Hydr0p0nXi learned on slackware 4 :)15:37
Hydr0p0nXand i'll probably end up testing and upgrading to 14.04 when it is released15:38
cristian_cHi15:39
ytomy wireless card of laptop doesnt work. help me15:39
cristian_cI installed qt4-qtconfig. When I open the qt configuration tool, I change the font type and size. Then I select File-> Save, and the string 'Saved changes.' appears in the statusbar15:39
deadmundyto: I'm here!15:39
deadmundyto: Have you tried anything?  What card do you have?15:39
afidegnumhello, pls I have ./bitcoind script installed in /root/src/      how do I add it to $PATH so i can call the script directly without going to the folder ?15:39
cristian_cBut if I close and reopen the configuration tool, I find the previous settings, as if I had not made ​​any changes15:40
deadmundafidegnum: The prudent way it to sylink it or put it in /usr/local/bin15:40
deadmundsymlink*15:40
XATRIXWhere can i swtich my current MPM for apache2 ?15:40
spenceHappy Holidays!15:40
XATRIXI wanna move from event to worker mpm15:41
afidegnumok15:41
somsipXATRIX: what version of apache2?15:41
cristian_cHow can I solve this problem?15:41
MonkeyDustwhat's mpm15:41
cristian_cAny ideas?15:41
XATRIXApache/2.4.6 (Ubuntu)15:41
XATRIXServer MPM:     event15:41
XATRIX  threaded:     yes (fixed thread count)15:41
XATRIX    forked:     yes (variable process count)15:41
deadmundyto: You there?15:41
ytodeadmund, yes atheros15:42
somsipXATRIX: sudo a2enmod worker might be a starting point. Probably disable event too.15:42
deadmundyto: What chipset specifically?  What have you tried?15:42
XATRIXroot@vox1-ua:~# a2enmod worker15:43
XATRIXERROR: Module worker does not exist!15:43
somsipXATRIX: is it in /etc/apache2/mods-available ?15:43
ytodeadmund, i dont know, how to find?15:43
XATRIXmpm_worker15:43
deadmundyto: sudo lspci -k (and look for the wireless card) if you listed drivers / modules that would be great too :)15:43
deadmundyto: If you're unsure, post it here: paste.ubuntu.com and let me look at it15:44
XATRIXyes, i've done with it15:45
cvtsxhow do i format a hard drive through command line?15:45
cvtsxi want a fresh install15:45
somsip!info mkfs | cvtsx15:45
ubottucvtsx: Package mkfs does not exist in saucy15:45
cvtsx?15:45
somsipcvtsx: well, use an ISO and resintall then15:45
cvtsxehh its a vps15:45
gvocvtsx fresh install of the OS?15:46
cvtsxand i dont see an option on the cp15:46
cvtsxyes i installed some stuff i want off15:46
deadmundcvtsx: You can use mkfs and fdisk but it's probably easier to use the installer (disc or usb) to reinstall.  it has an option to re-format / erase the harddrive.15:46
Your_Dog<mbroeker>  is there like a debug mode for jockey-text?15:46
mbroekerXATRIX, install apache2-mpm-worker or apache2-mpm-event :)15:46
cvtsxdeadmund: its a amazon vps15:46
somsipcvtsx: recreate from the correct AMI then15:46
mbroekerYour_Dog, /var/log/jockey.log15:47
cvtsxsomsip: how?15:47
cvtsxplease, i am new to vps15:47
deadmundcvtsx: so no gui at all?15:47
somsipcvtsx: you're referring to Amazon EC2 yes?15:47
Your_Dogah ok thanks15:47
cvtsxno gui15:47
cvtsxsomsip yes15:47
XATRIXmbroeker: i have both, worker haven't disabled event15:47
ytodeadmund, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6634651/15:47
cvtsxi can terminate it but id rather reformat15:47
cvtsxno option on the cp15:48
somsipcvtsx: you have the wrong idea about how EC2 works. Best to find some basic guides and read up on it. Amazon have lots of docs, help and manuals15:48
deadmundyto: see the section called "Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. Device 0036 (rev 01)" ??15:48
ytodeadmund, yes15:49
deadmundyto: That's the wifi card.  See how there are no drivers or kernel modules for it?  That's bad.  Can you run sudo rfkill list and tell me what it says?15:49
cvtsxok, why wont it work? then should i just get a new vps?15:49
somsipcvtsx: http://is.gd/qyP2cJ15:49
ytodeadmund, ok15:49
cvtsxso just make a new instance?15:50
somsipcvtsx: yes15:51
cvtsxok15:51
ytodeadmund, don't show anything15:51
cvtsxi have made 4 already ;(15:51
cvtsxi am trying to install znc on it15:51
somsipcvtsx: read the guide on easier ways to make multiple instances.15:51
cvtsxbut keep messing up15:52
somsipcvtsx: take an image before you install something that is likely to mess up15:52
cvtsxgood idea15:52
cvtsxidk why i wasnt doing it before15:52
deadmundyto: What do you mean?15:53
mbroekerXATRIX, uninstall apache2-mpm-event to enable mpm-worker15:53
deadmundyto: It just returns without printing anything??15:53
XATRIXok, thanks15:53
ytodeadmund, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6634688/15:53
deadmundyto: Ahh, it only lists your bluetooth but not your wifi...15:54
deadmundyto: weird...  hang on15:54
PatrickDickeyMorning everyone. :) I'm having a problem with my wireless connection. If I boot normally, NetworkManager crashes, so I have no wireless or wired network at all. But, if I boot in Recovery Mode, and click on Networking, it loads up. Then I can resume a normal boot, and have my wireless. Any suggestions on how to fix this?15:54
deadmundyto: Is this a USB wifi dongle?15:55
deadmundyto: Is it listed in sudo lsusb  ?15:55
mbroekerXATRIX, the config file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf has three major blocks for the three workers. you can comment out a block there, too. But uninstalling is much easier.15:57
somsipmbroeker: he's on 2.4 Are you sure that's the same for 2.4? I understood the modules were part of core install and had to be enabled/disabled with the varioud .conf files being picked up through that15:57
ytodeadmund, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6634705/15:57
deadmundyto: very weird...15:58
deadmundyto: Can you sudo modprobe ath9k      ?15:58
deadmundyto: sudo iwlist scan  to see if wireless networks are found15:58
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mbroekersomsip, oh, i am on apache 2.2 on 12.04. I am not sure about 2.4 :)15:59
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somsipmbroeker: aha. I've only used 2.4 on 14.04 so maybe it is different again for current, but your advice looked like 2.2. XATRIX, you may need to review16:00
ytodeadmund, output is: interface doesnt support scanning.16:00
XATRIXOk, thanks a lot16:01
deadmundyto: What interface doesn't support scanning?  The bluetooth?16:01
ytodeadmund, i dont know. my bluetooth is turn on16:02
ytodeadmund, can i update my kernel?16:04
deadmundyto: I'm not sure what is wrong.  I don't think I can help! :(16:04
deadmundyto: You can try.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1872537  What version of ubuntu / kernel are you currently on?16:04
c0d30#happyhahhpy holiday every one ..16:05
ytodeadmund, kernel: 2.6.38 and ubuntu 11.0416:06
deadmundyto: Whoa!  Old version of everything.  Update to 12.04 at least (which is long term) or 13.10 which is the newest version.  This will probably solve the problem.  These wifi/bluetooth cards weren't very common on 2011 and linux didn't really support them back then.16:06
deadmundLinux 3.x has been out for over a year now!16:07
xangua!eol | yto16:07
ubottuyto: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades16:07
ytodeadmund, ok but in ubuntu 12.04 or 13.04 my laptop freeze on ubuntu logo screen and cant shutdown!16:09
deadmundyto: really?  It won't turn off?  We can probably fix that once you have it installed.16:09
ytodeadmund, really? install ubuntu 12.04 or 13.10? what you suggest?16:11
deadmundyto: when it freezes, press ctrl + alt + f1 (and the other f keys as well).  They will switch to cli terminals and one of them will probably have error messages.  Also, try shutting down using sudo shutdown -h now and see if the problem persists16:12
ytodeadmund, test sudo shutdown -h now and -P. but my problem not solved.16:13
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deadmundyto: What?  How do you know, you haven't installed the newer version yet.16:13
ytodeadmund, i install all version of ubuntu and my shutdown problem solved only in ubuntu 11.04 and in this i cant install wifi and  i am confused:D16:15
deadmundyto: In my opinion, the shutdown issue will be much easier to solve then the wifi problem.16:16
deadmundyto: plus, running a version that is past EOL is not the best idea.16:17
ytodeadmund, OK i install ubuntu 13.10. how to find you to solve my shutdown problem?16:17
deadmundyto: that was fast but ok.  when the system freezes switch to ttyX (ctrl + alt + F1 and try the other F keys as well)16:18
vinceableworldhello16:18
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WeThePeopleso " sudo /opt/lampp/lampp start " command was not found any ideas?16:18
OerHeksyto maybe your shutdown problem is solved in 13.10 too16:19
vinceableworldCan someone assist me in the finishing touches to getting this bitcoin wallet installed from the unzipped package? I've done the best I can on my own... a little help would be appreciated :)16:19
ytodeadmund, OK.16:19
mbroekervinceableworld, do you need to compile it from source?16:20
vinceableworldno...16:20
mbroekervinceableworld, it's a binary package?16:20
deadmundyto: Let me know what you find16:20
vinceableworldit's "bitcoin-0.8.6-linux"16:20
vinceableworldSo not sure sorry trying to get acclimated to linux here...16:21
vinceableworldI've not gone back to windows in over a week.16:21
newcomerhi all16:21
vinceableworldI can cd to the file... find it... perhaps I don't know the right commands...16:22
mbroekervinceableworld, i have taken a look at their webpage and found an ubuntu ppa and a tar.gz ball16:22
vinceableworldk..?16:22
newcomerquestion , is there any command to see what packages i have installed like gflrx kinda, which r easy to forget names ?16:22
newcomeri mean hard to remember their spelling sometimes16:22
vinceableworldI already downloaded - I believe the tar.gz perhaps and extracted it to my "downloads" folder16:23
mbroekernewcomer, open a terminal and enter dpkg -l | grep fglrx16:23
newcomerwhat will that do ?16:23
mbroekernewcomer, dpkg -l lists all installed packages and grep <text> searches for the string <text> :)16:24
newcomeroh i got it thanx ;)16:24
OerHeksnewcomer, install synaptic for easy searching the repositorys16:24
newcomeri have troubles with fglrx cant login sometimes and have to do it with alt+f1 and reboot to get my gui16:25
newcomeri wanted to install cgminer , but it uninstalled my fglrx-updates and fglrx-amdcccle-updates and then couldnt get in ubuntu , reinstalled them with alt+f1 term but cgminer got auto uninstalled16:27
Ycareneis there a way to set rdp to show my primary desktop instead of starting a new session?16:27
AndyBotwinÌû16:27
mbroekervinceableworld, it's easy: unpack the tarball and move the entire folder to /opt/16:29
newcomerdo u have any miner program to suggest while using 1600fsb-p45-3.4Ghz Quad-8Gb ram-small ati hd5450 and without having to uninstall the -updates from amd cause the machine doesnt work without them ?16:30
mbroekervinceableworld, after that, ln -s /opt/bitcoin*/bin/64/* /usr/local/bin # for a 64 bit system16:31
newcomerim using ubuntu studio 13.1016:31
newcomerill check it mbroeker  thanx16:31
newcomeroh16:31
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Guest38306NH! I need help I have selected LVM for installation and i wanted to resize the partitiion but wasn't able to with GPArted. I have unmount and attempt to resize.16:36
SonikkuAmericaFeliĉa Kristnasko!16:39
newcomerfor ubuntu do i need the bz2 or the lrz installer of a program ?16:42
SchrodingersScatnewcomer: I thought those were just different compression16:43
MoL0ToVhi to all! where i cn find info to arm/samsung mobile phones ubuntu porting?16:44
icerootMoL0ToV: #ubuntu-arm16:44
MoL0ToVthx16:44
icerootMoL0ToV: and maybe #ubuntu-phone16:44
andyfiedGuest38306: have you tried to do anything from the terminal?16:44
loll2njr16:45
loll2bjr16:45
andyfiedGuest38306: like maybe this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=153756916:45
Guest38306andyfied, i haven't tried, let me see16:46
loll2quelqu'un en français16:46
rcw2what program will allow me to select usb as a device to install an iso onto.  k3b doesn't seem to have that feature16:46
rcw2bootable iso*16:46
bazhangloll2, #ubuntu-fr16:47
bazhangrcw2, unetbootin for one16:47
loll2yes16:47
loll2 tank you16:48
Lucid_Lynxman sort16:54
acovrigI am trying to install ubuntu from a network install CD (the standard iso won't fit on my CDs).  When booting the installer the if is up, but once I get to the network autoconfig the main if goes down and doesn't come back up (therefore configuration fails), why?16:57
acovrigand how can I get around this given there is no ifconfig, ifup, or ifdown?16:58
popschhi. I can't mount a usb drive. I already gave my account the permissions under system -> users -> permissions; when I click on mount, I still get 'not authorized'; I rebooted since setting the permissions; I can mount the usb drive as root16:58
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demon^eyei got some fonts issue17:03
demon^eyeeho can help me?17:03
demon^eyewho*17:03
demon^eye?17:04
CzupaCould you show error message or something?17:04
demon^eyei got bad fonts for local lang i use17:04
demon^eyeand that no english17:04
vmusrdemon^eye, just state what is your problem, and if someone can help you they'll write17:04
demon^eyehow can i set in ubuntu what called in windows "none uni code font" ?17:05
AJVFoxHey everyone. Wondering if anyone has suggestions on a solid gihub client with a clean and well laid out gui17:05
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Czupademon^eye What font are you using?17:06
demon^eyehebrew17:06
demon^eyei mean , i am using sec lang "hebrew" along side english17:06
ClientAliveI'm just getting started with postgres bc I need to build a database for my business. Do I need the server in order to create a database?17:07
demon^eyewhen i open a TXT file all hebrew look gibrish17:07
demon^eyebut i have hebrew17:07
Kablamguys question whats the diffren between ln -d and ln -s symlink versus hardlink?17:07
demon^eyei can write in hebrew17:07
acovriginteresting: I can't get any of my ethernet interfaces to come up in the installer (they show up, but are down and there is no ifup command), yet the wifi works...17:08
mbroekerClientAlive, sure, postgesql-server is the server and the client connects to any server on any network on any machine :)17:08
Czupademon^eye Have you tried other text editors?17:09
mbroekerClientAlive, to start with it, install pgadmin3 and phppgadmin17:10
demon^eyeczupa : some time files in hebrew i d.l the name apear in gibrish17:10
demon^eyeand also some TXT file  i open17:10
demon^eyei need 2 know where to set "none uni code " like in windows17:10
demon^eyethis option sort it all up in windows17:11
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demon^eyeמישהוא מדבר פה עברית ?17:11
michagogo|cloudI have a DigitalOcean vps that I spin up occasionally, for miscellaneous tasks17:12
michagogo|cloudWhen I try to shut it down, something goes wrong17:12
M1C4HTRON13if I move and resize a boot partition is it easy to get it to boot again afterwards?17:12
michagogo|cloudI've tried with `sudo halt` and `sudo shutdown -h now`17:13
Czupademon^eye https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HebrewLocalizationHowto that might be helpful17:13
Meerkatdemon^eye, open your text file and choose "save as". What is the character encoding set to?17:14
michagogo|cloudNothing that I do appears to do anything17:14
demon^eyeletme see ... czupa i will look into there also17:14
michagogo|cloudEither way, it ends up apparently shut down, nothing on the network interface (no ssh,etc) and nothing on the virtual console17:14
michagogo|cloudAnyone have any ideas as to the possible reason?17:15
XATRIXGuys, how can i enable more advanced error reporting, i'm using apache 2.4.6 + fcgid + php5.517:15
michagogo|cloudHm, one message got eaten by a connection loss -- I also said that its status remains "running" and not "shut down".17:15
XATRIXMy website gives me 500 error. But default error log and my custom one doesn't indicate any errors17:15
demon^eyemeerkat : its set to westran17:15
demon^eye*western17:16
Meerkatdemon^eye, try UTF-8. Just guessing, but it might help.17:16
demon^eyelet me see :D17:16
aaa801anyone know why distcc isn't finding a file that is in PATH and DISTCC_PATH ?17:16
aaa801http://i.imgur.com/RABmbkK.png17:16
demon^eyemeetkat : my TXT file hebs charecters look gibrish that my issue17:17
demon^eyefrom there i need to go on17:17
demon^eyehow can i set that up17:17
demon^eyethat  how it look like copy paste " ëáåã ùì âáø > ðçùó òì éãé úîðéä"17:18
Meerkatdemon^eye, so saving as UTF-8 and re-opening the file did not help?17:18
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demon^eyenope it doesnt help17:19
demon^eyeits all about unicode ...17:19
NanodesuHello! I'm using xtv through ssh but I don't know how to configure it. I mean, I'm trying to see what my son is seeing in his screen but when I type xtv (being connected through ssh to my second computer) what xtv shows is my screen not the other.17:20
NanodesuDo yo know how to do it?17:20
Robert__Hi! Which graphic would you recommend for drawing with gimp? (Used 80% under ubuntu/debian and under win7) so it should work under both good :)17:21
Robert__I head about bamboo but maybe another works also good17:21
mbroekerNanodesu, login on the remote machine, sudo su - <sonsuseraccount> and enter xtv17:25
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levohow to only upgrade 'wine' ?17:35
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akrlhello, does anyone know if its possible to mount a partition using its beginning and ending sector locations?17:37
michagogo|cloudlevo: iirc, sudo apt-get install wine17:45
demon^eyeis there any software for Ubuntu to make full backup?17:45
demon^eyefull partition backup17:46
SchrodingersScatdemon^eye: there are several methods you can consider17:48
Nanodesumbroeker: I get: Can't open display: localhost:10.017:48
SchrodingersScat!backup | demon^eye17:49
ubottudemon^eye: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning17:49
levoi'm trying to install pdfexchange editor 3.0.306.1  via wine 1.4 , but it even doesn't get started, it's like nothing happens at all.17:50
icerootlevo: #winehq17:51
SchrodingersScatdemon^eye: I think gparted can copy partitions, and there's the dd command, although dd is more manual and can lead to disk loss through user error17:51
iceroot!appdb | levo17:51
ubottulevo: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help17:51
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michagogo|cloudDoes anyone know why an Ubuntu vps would appear not to shut down when it's told to with either `sudo halt` or `sudo shutdown -h now`?18:06
michagogo|cloudIt stops being reachable over the internet (ssh, etc) and the virtual console connection is just a black screen, but the status remains "running" and not "shut down"18:07
ClientAlivembroeker: Thanks. Sorry for dealay (I'm on #postgresql too). I do have pgadmin and have just set a postgres password. Can I presume to just start using it from here on out and can I just start working in pgadmin to do so?18:08
mbroekermichagogo|cloud, stop your container with the container software :)18:08
ClientAlivembroeker: Or do I still need to do some work on the command line (configuration or something)?18:09
mbroekerClientAlive, the server is up and running?18:09
zeljkoheoo18:10
michagogo|cloudmbroeker: the interface says that it's not recommended and that the server should be powered off from the command line18:10
michagogo|cloudDoes that mean something other than `sudo shutdown -h now` or `sudo halt`?18:11
ClientAliveI'm still in the psql command line and have just successfully set a password (I - think). Does that indicate any kind of answer to that question (I'm truly asking - I don't know if it does or not - maybe the password only seemed to work).18:11
mbroekerClientAlive, # sudo su - postgres # createuser -P business # createdb --owner business business18:11
ClientAlivembroeker: Can any of that be done in pgadmin?18:11
mbroekerClientAlive, no, these commands are cli commands18:12
ClientAliveok18:12
NanodesuHello! I'm using xtv through ssh but I don't know how to configure it. I mean, I'm trying to see what my son is seeing in his screen but when I type xtv (being connected through ssh to my second computer) what xtv shows is my screen not the other.18:12
mbroekermichagogo|cloud, i think that the container software has no clue about the shutdown: or try it with sudo shutdown -p now (instead of h) and check the interface18:13
zeljkomacedonijan18:13
michagogo|cloudmbroeker: what's shutdown -p?18:16
ClientAlivembroeker: I'm running everything locally and don't have any need to connect to any outside datbase. Is there a way to configure things so pgadmin will connect to my local postgres server by default/when it starts (or is that what the commands you gave are for)?18:16
ClientAliveJust trying to get a feel for this is all18:16
mbroekerClientAlive, these commands will create a postgres user business and a database for this user18:16
ClientAlivembroeker: Copying down your comands but I better start learning about it now. Thank you so much sir.18:17
vicsar.18:18
mbroekermichagogo|cloud, man shutdown -P powers off :)18:20
michagogo|cloudAgh18:20
michagogo|cloudAhhh*18:20
michagogo|cloudThat's probably it18:21
michagogo|cloudHow is that different from -h?18:21
mbroekermichagogo|cloud, normally, a shutdown -h now powers it off automatically, but sometimes, you need the -P switch18:21
zeljkoacedonijan18:21
zeljkomacedonijan18:21
michagogo|cloudWhat do they do differently?18:21
linuxuz3rxD18:22
michagogo|cloudAlso, is there a no-arguments command that does the same thing, the way halt=shutdown -h now?18:22
mbroekermichagogo|cloud, i have no idea: all my pcs, laptops and vps'es were able to shutdown without -P :)18:22
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levohow to know what version of packages are retrieved from update command?18:29
OerHekslevo, look in softwarecenter > history18:31
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levoOerHeks: yes18:32
islandmonkeyHello all, how could I always make a program run under optirun?18:32
jiacomoUbuntu 12.04 freezes two times, directly after each other. Mouse and keyboard don't respond, and there are some strange 1,5cm tall lines on the screen, sometimes white, sometimes black and sometimes different colours, all these contents in one freeze. What could be the cause of this freezing?18:34
XATRIXGuys, can you advice18:34
XATRIXI've added this repo into my apt18:34
XATRIXhttps://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/php5-oldstable18:34
XATRIXI need php5.418:34
XATRIXBut when i do apt-get update18:34
RamsesIII am using Lubuntu 13.10. I installed lives and cinerella but then uninstalled them. After that, all sound doesn't work. I did not change any settings. My system is not muted.18:34
XATRIXI receive:18:34
FloodBot1XATRIX: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:34
OerHeksislandmonkey, maybe this page is any help to add the optirun option > http://www.tuxtrix.com/2012/01/how-to-add-optirun-mode-to-applications.html18:34
RamsesIIIs anyone familiar with this problem?18:34
XATRIXIgn http://ppa.launchpad.net saucy/main Translation-en_US18:35
XATRIXIgn http://ppa.launchpad.net saucy/main Translation-en18:35
XATRIXHit http://ppa.launchpad.net saucy/main i386 Packages18:35
XATRIXAnd i actually have no php 5.4 packages to install18:35
XATRIXAny idea how can i ?18:35
RamsesIIDoes anyone know if Lubuntu uses Pulseaudio or not? Ever search says "did you mean Ubuntu?"18:36
OerHeksXATRIX, ppa's are not supported here, contact the ppa owner18:36
ice9if Firefox is running and I want to start a new window but not from file->new window;  I want to do it from the firefox cmd itself. what param should I pass to it?18:36
OerHeksXATRIX, bacause that PPA goes up to Raring, no saucy candidates18:37
RamsesII-new-window18:38
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RamsesIIice9: Enter the command "firefox -new-window <url>". It works when Firefox is running.18:38
OerHeksRamsesII +118:39
RamsesIIBut...about my sound problem. Does Lubuntu 13.10 use Pulseaudio?18:39
ice9RamsesII: it said FF is already running18:39
RamsesIII have firefox open and entered "firefox -new-window xkcd.com18:40
RamsesII"18:40
RamsesIIAnd it opened a new window with xkcd in it.18:40
XATRIXAny idea where can i get php 5.4 ?18:41
WeThePeoplei messed up with nautilus how do i fix, i typed nautilus instead of gksudo nautilus18:42
hitsujiTMOXATRIX: php.net? what ubuntu version are you on?18:43
donvltoanyone have idea why my computer freezes, i am checking ram right now, it seems fine18:44
donvltoit has ubuntu 12.0418:44
XATRIXhitsujiTMO: Ubuntu server 13.1018:44
donvltobut it freez with no warning18:44
hitsujiTMOXATRIX: do you want to downgrade?18:44
XATRIXYes18:44
hitsujiTMOerm... why?18:44
bazhangdonvlto, debian?18:44
XATRIXI need exactly 5.4 version of php18:44
donvltono its ubuntu, im planing to install debian18:45
XATRIXI don't want to downgrade ubuntu18:45
XATRIXI need to downgrade php18:45
XATRIXOerHeks: and why do you think it's for rarian ?18:46
XATRIXdeb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ondrej/php5-oldstable/ubuntu saucy main18:46
hitsujiTMOXATRIX: i doubt that, if any software requires exactly php5.4 then its badly written and should be avoided as you'll never know what security holes it will have18:46
Lucid_Lynxawesome comic..18:46
OerHeksXATRIX, bacause the page says so. and you can add any ppa, but you will find no packages, did you?18:46
XATRIXhitsujiTMO: thanks for warning, but i still need this php version18:47
RamsesIII fixed the sound issue.18:47
RamsesIIXATRIX: Do you need it for testing or for a live server?18:48
BjizzleHi. I was trying to install nvidia 331 drivers but it said it needed linux-headers. I downloaded linux-image from recovery mode console but I got the wrong link for wget and I tried to install an html page accidentally. When I got the right linux-image downloaded and installed I also downloaded and installed the correct linux-headers after realizing linux-image is not linux-headers. Now my machine won't boot. It flashes the loading spl18:48
jiacomoI just logged in (computer was suspended) and it totally freezes, keyboard and mouse didn't react, only some white lines all over the screen, sometimes changing to black lines. What can be the cause of this freeze?18:48
XATRIXOerHeks: http://ppa.launchpad.net/ondrej/php5-oldstable/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/binary-amd64/ ?18:48
XATRIXRamsesII: i need it for testing and running a code for myself18:49
islandmonkeyOerHeks: Great thanks - and even better - it was for the application I wanted!18:49
XATRIXActually my custom module compiled for API 5.418:49
RamsesIII would recommend the easy method of installing the version of xampp which includes the PHP version you want.18:49
RamsesIIhttp://sourceforge.net/projects/xampp/files/XAMPP%20Linux/18:49
jenia_hello18:50
jenia_what does /etc/hostname refere to??18:50
hitsujiTMOBjizzle: just choose the older kernel from the grub boot menu and once you get in remove the linux-image package you installed18:50
jenia_mine is "ubuntu"18:50
jenia_why cant i type /debian/index.html18:50
RamsesIIIt is the name your computer will have on the network.18:50
bazhang!xampp | RamsesII18:50
ubottuRamsesII: We do not support XAMPP installs here. Please use the LAMP stack that is in our repositories; see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP for more information.18:50
jenia_or http://debian/index.html in the browser and receive the correct page??18:51
BjizzleHitsujitmo: I already tried booting into another kernel. I got similar results.18:51
RamsesIIubottu: I do not need support for XAMPP.18:51
ubottuRamsesII: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:51
hitsujiTMOBjizzle: have you tried booting with the text kernel param?18:51
RamsesIIubottu: I wouldn't dream of thinking you were intelligent...18:51
ubottuRamsesII: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:51
bazhangRamsesII, /msg ubottu18:52
BjizzleHitsujitmo: I don't think so. What would I google for how to do that?18:52
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hitsujiTMO!text | Bjizzle18:52
ubottuBjizzle: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode18:52
hitsujiTMOBjizzle: that will get you to a text mode that you can use to see if the issue is woth xorg, e.g. the 331 driver you installed18:53
slayerhello all18:54
ni1s'ello18:54
slayerI'm trying to get Steam working on 64-bit Linux, but it's failing when it segfaults in the 32-bit fglrx_dri.so module18:54
slayerhow do i update the 32-bit fglrx? I see the timestamps on the 64-bit files are from a few minutes ago, but the 32-bit SO file is from jan 8, 201218:55
BjizzleHitsujitmo: Thank you. Is it supposed to drop to tty login?18:55
hitsujiTMOBjizzle: yup. does not start X18:56
RamsesIIBye everyone. Merry Christmas.18:56
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hitsujiTMOslayer: what gpu do you have?18:57
BjizzleHitsujitmo: now should I purge linux-headers that I installed?18:57
slayerRadeon HD 677018:58
hitsujiTMOBjizzle: what exactly did you install? i would first look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what was the cause of the non boot. may have been the nvidia 331 driver18:58
slayerhitsujiTMO, Radeon HD 677018:58
slayerhitsujiTMO, though when I start Steam, it segfaults on this file: /usr/lib32/dri/fglrx_dri.so18:59
aFeijohi folks, I own an NAS drive (its a shared box which run linux inside), I want to permanentely map it in my ubuntu 13.10, I added a line in my fstab, but its not working: "mount.nfs: remote share not in 'host:dir' format"18:59
hitsujiTMOslayer: whats the output of: cat /etc/issue19:00
slayerhitsujiTMO, it is: Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l19:00
BjizzleHitsujitmo: I think it was X, fatal server error: addscreen/screeninit failed for driver 019:01
hitsujiTMOslayer: is that happening for a specific game or steam itself19:01
slayerhitsujiTMO, Steam itself, it won't start19:01
hitsujiTMOBjizzle: uninstall the nvidia driver so then19:01
slayerhitsujiTMO, the exact error is: 0xf6ace15f in __driCreateNewScreen_20050727 () from /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so19:02
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nochasaFeijo: try specifying the remote share in host:dir format?19:02
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aFeijonochas, all examples I found was in a simple //192.x.x.x/share /mnt/folder/19:03
linuxuz3ris there a way to upgrade 12.04 to 13.1019:03
slayerhitsujiTMO, I've googled that error, but didn't find much that helped, which led me to believe that it might because the 32-bit SO file is a good 2 yrs older than the 64-bit file...19:03
slayerhitsujiTMO, but I could be barking up the wrong tree..19:04
nochastry 192.x.y.z:/share /foo/19:04
hitsujiTMOslayer: have a look here. seems to be issues with aiglx or the compositor: http://keycorner.org/pub/text/doc/ATI_Radeon_&_Kernel_2.6.htm19:04
slayerhitsujiTMO, haha yes I've disabled those two, I saw that earlier too19:04
slayerhitsujiTMO, my best bet is to try updating the 32-bit fglrx_dri.so file, but how can I do that? apt-get won't allow both the i386 and the 64-bit version at the same time19:05
slayerhitsujiTMO, maybe purge the 64-bit fglrx-updates and install the 32-bit fglrx-updates:i386?19:06
hitsujiTMOslayer: i don't think that's your issue. It seems more like something is forcing aiglx19:06
slayerhitsujiTMO, oh? hmm how do I detect that?19:06
Bashing-omlinuxuz3r, The online upgrade path from 12,04 is one gets upgraded to 12.10, do it again to version 13.04, do it once more to get to version 13.10. Else, the faster way is to do a clean install from, say, a 13.10 liveDVD. - hth- .19:09
michagogo|cloudOr wait until April19:10
michagogo|cloudYou'll be able to upgrade directly from 12.04 to 14.04, I think19:10
Meerkatyes, that is possible.19:10
hitsujiTMOslayer: can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ... maybe some info in there that could help19:11
Bashing-omlinuxuz3r, Yes on direct LTS to LTS .. in April when 14.04 is released.19:12
slayerhitsujiTMO, here it is http://pastebin.com/FCk8kT3119:13
slayerhitsujiTMO, I have the minidump from the Steam executable too19:13
Meerkatas a 13.04 user I feel stressed19:14
Meerkat12.10 gets longer support :(19:14
hitsujiTMOslayer: yes can you pastebin that too19:14
slayerhitsujiTMO, the minidump analysis?19:15
hitsujiTMOslayer: yup19:16
slayerhitsujiTMO, sure, here it is http://pastebin.com/X59L3LrE19:17
Meerkatwhat happens to quantal users when raring no longer gets support? Can they upgrade to 13.10 or 14.04 LTS directly?19:17
slayerhitsujiTMO, I used gdb to launch Steam as well, but it didn't teach me anything new19:17
hitsujiTMOslayer: can you run: sudo apt-get -f install19:17
slayerhitsujiTMO, yes, just ran it again, got the usual: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed... etc19:18
hitsujiTMOslayer: are you running steam through wine?19:21
slayerhitsujiTMO, nope19:21
hitsujiTMOslayer: can you run steam from the terminal and pastebin the output of that19:23
slayerhitsujiTMO, here it is http://pastebin.com/kduTSZkG19:26
hitsujiTMOslayer: the fact that its reinstalling the bootstrap suggests it might be an issue with steam itself. can you try deleting the contents of ~/.local/share/Steam19:31
slayerhitsujiTMO, sure, let me try19:32
slayerhitsujiTMO, done, let me try restarting Steam now or is there something else I should configure first?19:32
hitsujiTMOslayer: just run steam away19:33
slayerhitsujiTMO, damn, same error19:33
Guest40595Can you help me for config new tld with bind9 ?19:35
Guest40595I have add new zone in /etc/bind/named.conf and i a have create file config19:36
Guest40595but the command dig return null :/19:37
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slayerhitsujiTMO, i guess i should give up on this, maybe it  just doesn't work in Ubuntu 13.1019:44
slayermaybe in a few months it will19:44
hitsujiTMOslayer: i wouldn't give up, its an odd issue. it should work on your system19:44
ben_hi19:44
ben_hiiii19:45
Guest40595one dns admin on channel ? :)19:45
slayerhitsujiTMO, yeah, i don't like quitting either but I've run out of ideas at this point19:46
paulus68_1perhaps a stupid question I have a seperate home drive and now I want to install a new SSD on my system replacing the current startup disk do I need to specify again that home is on a seperate drive or is this reconized automaticly19:46
slayerhitsujiTMO, I still don't understand why the 32-bit fglrx_dri.so which is being loaded is from jan 8, 2012 and not the most recent updated one i installed today19:46
slayerhitsujiTMO, it seems to me that outdated code in that 32-bit SO might be worth investigating, but I don't know how to update it19:47
ben_hi19:47
Guest40595ben_: no19:47
ben_whi?19:48
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ytoi cant shutdown my laptop and test sudo shutdown -h and -P but my problem not solved. when shutdown laptop it freeze in page ubuntu logo19:49
hitsujiTMOslayer: that's not part of the driver itself i suspect. considering that its a 32bit lib, and you've a 64bit system19:49
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levoi've got wine 1.4 which i've heard is kind of dead by now. i want to upgrade to the latest, so i did sudo apt-get update ,  and then sudo apt-get upgrade, but in uprading package lists it doesn't tell anything about wine getting upgraded , what should i do?19:49
levohttp://pastebin.com/2xXmtbgC19:49
slayerhitsujiTMO, but it's being loaded, it's in the stacktrace, since Steam is only 32-bit on Linux19:49
slayerhitsujiTMO, Steam is not a 64-bit app so it can only load 32-bit libs19:50
hitsujiTMOslayer: yes i know, i'm saying that the fglrx_dri is prob at its latest19:50
bazhanglevo, you could check in #winehq19:50
levobazhang: what does it have to do with wine?19:51
bazhanglevo, their repos have the very latest19:51
slayerhitsujiTMO, this is what I get for: ls -al /usr/lib32/dri/fglrx_dri.so19:51
ytoi cant shutdown my laptop and test sudo shutdown -h and -P but my problem not solved. when shutdown laptop it freeze in page ubuntu logo. anyone can help me?19:51
slayerhitsujiTMO, -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 34623716 Jan  8  2012 /usr/lib32/dri/fglrx_dri.so19:51
Guest40595Can you help me for config new tld with bind9 ?19:51
slayerit's 2 yrs old19:51
slayerhitsujiTMO, while the 64-bit one is from today19:52
enen92hi all. Does anyone know of a indicator panel applet to control services running on the system (e.g. nginx,mysql,etc)?19:52
paulus68_1if I replace my current startup disk with an ssd and install the new version of Ubuntu on it does it reconize that I have a seperate home partition?19:52
slayerhitsujiTMO, and the 2 yr old 32-bit SO is what's segfaulting19:52
Guest40595enen92: service --status-all ?19:53
enen92lol yes19:53
enen92but looking for an easy way to start/stop a service from the panel19:54
ytoi cant shutdown my laptop and test sudo shutdown -h and -P but my problem not solved. when shutdown laptop it freeze in page ubuntu logo. anyone can help me?19:54
Bashing-omlevo, what results from terminal command "apt-cache policy wine" ?? should say what version is installed and waht is available,.. not a big proponent of adding PPAs to the system, but the latest versions are in the PPAs.19:54
Guest40595enen92: the console is your best friend :)19:54
Guest40595you use gnome ? kde ?19:55
enen92gnome-classic19:55
Guest40595with openbox, you can create one pipe menu, and this is top :)19:55
Guest40595Can you help me for config new tld with bind9 ? :'( please...19:56
levoBashing-om: http://pastebin.com/BsR1fSQR19:57
x0auserWhy i ise 1go of ram with mate DE, i'm under precise ! just wanna to understand19:57
slayerhitsujiTMO, thank you for helping me though, i really appreciate it :)19:58
ytoi cant shutdown my laptop and test sudo shutdown -h and -P but my problem not solved. when shutdown laptop it freeze in page ubuntu logo. anyone can help me?19:58
slayerhitsujiTMO, when I install fglrx-updates, I see this: Building for architecture x86_6419:59
slayerhitsujiTMO, is there a way to make it build for arch x86 as well?19:59
hitsujiTMOslayer no since you have a 64bit kernel20:00
paulus68_1if I replace my current startup disk with an ssd and install the new version of Ubuntu on it does it reconize that I have a seperate home partition?20:00
slayerhitsujiTMO, ah i see20:00
Bashing-omlevo. that says you are running the latest version of wine that is available from the repository. If you are into testing the latest versions of wine are available with installing the PPA and upgrading via that means.20:01
hitsujiTMOslayer: you can't use a 32bit driver with a 64bit kernel. doesn't stop you from using 32bit apps tho20:01
levoBashing-om: 1.4 is so old AFAIK.20:01
slayerhitsujiTMO, right, hmm20:01
washuuHi :-) Mwrry xmas...and a question...20:01
levoBashing-om: i'm wrong it seems it's new20:02
washuuFot Apache questions should I go where?20:02
Meerkatwashuu, just ask, maybe you'll get lucky20:03
SchrodingersScat!ask | washuu20:03
ubottuwashuu: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience20:03
ilyasoothanks20:03
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washuuTnx meerkat... ok... I have apache running and /cgi-bin/php* is always hit my scripts. I want to insult the script-user automatically instead of the 500 page.20:05
washuuCan I move/rename the PHP link?20:05
Meerkathit by scripts?20:05
washuu*by scipts. Yes20:06
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ytoi cant shutdown my laptop and test sudo shutdown -h and -P but my problem not solved. when shutdown laptop it freeze in page ubuntu logo. anyone can help me?20:06
hitsujiTMOwashuu: wht language do you speak?20:06
Bashing-omlevo, well, yes.. you need to understand that any version in the repository id frozen at the version, To insure that your system stays stable. I am sure there are later versions via PPA !,, but not recommeded by me, I value stability over newness !20:07
hitsujiTMOwashuu: i'm guessing english isn't your native language20:07
slayerhitsujiTMO, ah i'm reading about fglrx-experimental? might be worth a shot?20:07
hitsujiTMOslayer: might be if you want to be on the latest driver. but if its the lib thats crashing then it might not be any good.20:08
washuu@hitsuji - German and English20:08
slayerhitsujiTMO, ok, thanks20:08
hitsujiTMO!de | washuu if your english is isn't the best which i'm guessing from " is always hit my scripts" and "I want to insult the script-user"20:09
ubottuwashuu if your english is isn't the best which i'm guessing from " is always hit my scripts" and "I want to insult the script-user": In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!20:09
SchrodingersScatwashuu: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/misc/rewriteguide.html20:09
levoBashing-om, you're right, but i tried to add the ppa, got this error. Bashing-om20:09
levohttp://pastebin.com/wj7YETNv20:09
SchrodingersScatwashuu: you might be looking for the "Blocking of Robots" section20:10
paulus68_1want to install a new ubuntu on a ssd drive does it reconize my home drive which is on a seperate HD or do I have to specify this seperatly20:10
washuuI was just unconcentrated. On the English speaking channels I can find the most helpful people.20:10
washuutnx Schroedinger for the link20:11
ytoi cant shutdown my laptop and test sudo shutdown -h and -P but my problem not solved. when shutdown laptop it freeze in page ubuntu logo. anyone can help me?20:11
Bashing-omlevo, PPA errors can be tough to trouble shoot, how about registering on ubuntuforums.net and we can take a stab at it .. lots of individual help available on the forum.20:12
SchrodingersScatpaulus68_1: in the manual setup you can try pointing it to your /home/ partition manually and tell it to not format the partition.20:12
washuuUrl rewrite... You are right. I forgot about it. I'll read that doc completely and that should solve my question20:12
dveimhello20:13
SchrodingersScatwashuu: great for filtering malicious sites like facebook.20:13
levoBashing-om: the first thing in ubuntuforums.net is "cute girls from russia"  lol20:13
dveimi installed oracle VB from .deb file, added VM, then removed it with VB20:13
dveimbut now on loading system tries to load VM20:14
Bashing-omlevo, leeme get my facts straight !- I am a facilitator on that forum ! (sheesshh).20:14
levoBashing-om: seriously check what you typed.20:15
Bashing-omlevo, that URL should be "ubuntuforums.org" ! .. a lengthy registratioon procedure, but well worth the effort !20:15
washuuI meant hacker scripts that attack badly configured PHP .20:15
dveimand fails on Starting VirtualBox20:16
ytoi cant shutdown my laptop and test sudo shutdown -h and -P but my problem not solved. when shutdown laptop it freeze in page ubuntu logo. anyone can help me?20:16
dveimhow can i totally remove it from my system?20:16
SchrodingersScatwashuu: the link is useful then if they have a custom user-agent, otherwise maybe there are other options.  For example, if the user-agent is "script.2" you can filter for that and redirect to an error page regardless of what the normal code would be.20:17
Meerkatredirect to nsa.gov!20:18
SchrodingersScatgood call20:18
dveimthis is result of find / -name *virtual*20:18
dveimhttp://pastebin.com/Em9eT9hh20:18
dveimwhat should i remove to prevent autoloading VB?20:18
washuuSchroedinger: The user agent isn't always the same. Usually it doesn't look faked.20:19
SchrodingersScatwashuu: how are you identifying it then?  have you seen fail2ban ?20:21
helpmepleazzehello20:22
helpmepleazzei installed oracle VB and created one VM20:22
helpmepleazzethen removed all20:22
washuuI have fail2ban but seemingly I am not good enough to configure it correcty :(20:22
helpmepleazzebut atfer reboot system fails to init X20:22
helpmepleazzeso i have only access to console20:23
helpmepleazzehttp://pastebin.com/Em9eT9hh is output of find / *virtual*20:23
helpmepleazzewhat should i remove to stop autoloading VB?20:23
hitsujiTMOhelpmepleazze: lets start with: cat /etc/issue20:25
helpmepleazzeLinux Mint 16 Petra20:25
SchrodingersScat!mint | helpmepleazze20:25
ubottuhelpmepleazze: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org20:25
helpmepleazze...20:25
ytoi cant shutdown my laptop and test sudo shutdown -h and -P but my problem not solved. when shutdown laptop it freeze in page ubuntu logo. anyone can help me?20:25
helpmepleazzeit is ubuntu on 955%20:25
helpmepleazze*95%20:26
bazhanghelpmepleazze, its not supported here20:26
helpmepleazzeretarded20:26
OerHeksmint has its own issues20:26
hitsujiTMOhelpmepleazze: mint is very different from ubuntu. we're can't support it here20:26
SchrodingersScatI read your question, and have no idea how virtualbox is crashing your x.20:26
helpmepleazzeit is not mint issue...20:26
bazhanghelpmepleazze, go to their support channel for that20:26
hitsujiTMOhelpmepleazze: its not an ubuntu issue either20:26
qin!mint > helpmepleazze20:27
ubottuhelpmepleazze, please see my private message20:27
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Penguin_PeteOK, have I woken up in a different universe, or is it no longer possible to change BIOS settings to boot from CD? Inspiron 3250 laptop, running Windows 8. Normally I'd hold F120:27
MeerkatPenguin_Pete, try F220:30
Meerkator Fn+F120:30
hitsujiTMOPenguin_Pete: esc, f11, f12, del ... key is different on every system20:30
SchrodingersScatPenguin_Pete: oh no, your disk drive! :(20:31
Bashing-omPenguin_Pete; Windows8 == UEFI .. and that is a whole new ball game in a means to boot a different operating system, even a bootable CD !20:33
gvolightdm is flakey on mint20:33
MathersMarshallIs there a way to change the color of the text at the top of the screen on Ubuntu?20:34
SchrodingersScatMathersMarshall: do you have a "Theme Configuration" in your settings?20:35
ytoi cant shutdown my laptop and test sudo shutdown -h and -P but my problem not solved. when shutdown laptop it freeze in page ubuntu logo. anyone can help me?20:36
MathersMarshallSchrodingerscat: To which Ubuntu version does that apply to?20:36
SchrodingersScatMathersMarshall: it was a question, so all of them.20:36
washuuIt looks like the PHP executable is not needed in the cgi-bin folder at all! I renamed the files.20:36
MathersMarshallSchrodingerscat: I'm looking now20:37
MathersMarshallSchrodingerscat: No20:37
hitsujiTMOMathersMarshall: if you want to change any of the colors afaik you'd have to edit the theme itself20:38
hussainhi FloodBot120:39
ytoi cant shutdown my laptop and test sudo shutdown -h and -P but my problem not solved. when shutdown laptop it freeze in page ubuntu logo. anyone can help me?20:45
washuuIt looks like I didn't deinstall some extremely insecure remote administration tool. Now I can write a script20:46
washuuWhat do you see in the system logs after you tried to shutdown, yto?20:47
herpnormal user cant connect to any wifi network without admin password (ubuntu 12.04). Workaround?20:49
ytowashuu, where is log file?20:49
gvoyto use C-A-F1 to get to a terminal and do the shutdown -h from there.  Maybe an error message will scroll by to give you a hint.20:50
b13m_need some help20:50
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gvoyto also look at log files, and boot into recovery  mode and look at the X logs20:51
qinherp: http://askubuntu.com/questions/141553/how-to-enable-wireless-network-for-standard-users20:52
Meerkatherp, go to user and groups settings, click on the user your wanna change permissions for and click the "advanced settings" button. Somewhere around there will be a checkbox for "connecting to wireless networks"20:52
Meerkatherp, that link looks like a quicker and easier method. Go with that! :)20:53
gvob13m_: Don't ask for help, just ask a question.20:54
ytogvo, i do your instruction but output is: The system is going to halt now ....    but laptop freeze and cant shutdown20:54
qinyto: to try to eliminate x problem: sudo service lightdm stop; and from console: sudo shoutdown -h now20:54
gvoyto ^^^20:55
gvoyto also remove quiet and splash from boot kernel temporarily20:56
Jacob__hi, i need help w/ repairing my windows partition20:56
Jacob__i tried using boot repair20:56
Jacob__but it only made it worse20:56
qinyto: maybe checking with htop that all X rubbish is off is good idea, then /var/log/ and sys.lop20:56
Jacob__i also keep getting bsod20:56
Jacob__http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6635888/20:57
Jacob__can anybody please help?20:57
gvojacob__: Not sure the Ubuntu channel is the right place for that kind of help.20:58
Jacob__which channel then?20:59
gvoDunno20:59
ytoqin, i do your instruction but laptop doesnt shutdown20:59
Jacob__is there a channel for fixing windows?21:00
gvoyto did you boot single user and look at the Xorg log?21:02
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ytogvo, no where is my Xorg log?21:03
uBUXUBumerry christmas ubuntites!21:04
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uBUXUBuho ho ho21:04
gvoyto in /var/log21:05
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mbroekerand now i have a keyboard, uBUXUBu lol21:05
uBUXUBusanta got u a keyboard?21:05
ytogvo, i dont understand the text in this file. can you help me?21:06
hitsujiTMOyto: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log21:06
gvoFirst it gets rebuilt every time you boot, so looking at it now won't do anything for you.  You must reboot single user, go to the end of the file and look for error messages.21:07
gvohitsujiTMO: That won't tell him why it didn't shutdown the last time.21:07
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washuu_dehitsuji knows how. I'd only say "pastebin, please"21:07
ytogvo , hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6636102/21:08
gvoDoesn't tell us a thing.21:09
gvoyto shutdown, boot single user, copy the Xorg.log.0 (or whatever) file somewhere to save it and boot normally.  Then pastebin that file.21:10
ytogvo, ok21:11
Ninja-Duckbonjour, j'aurais besoin d'aide par rapport à un driver wifi21:11
gvoNot that I expect to see anything since he did try to shutdown lightdm and reboot which didn't work nor did it hang in shutting down the dm but it's worth a shot.21:11
qin!fr | Ninja-Duck21:12
ubottuNinja-Duck: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.21:12
hitsujiTMOyto: gvo: my apologies. Presumed it was a booting issue21:12
gvoShutdown hang21:12
FlorchHola21:12
Florchasdfg21:13
mamedno drm device found . while trying to run weston on ubuntu 13.0421:14
shortstraw8Is there a way to "upgrade" and only keep certain personal files. I have some stuff that will roll over like -wine- that I don't want anymore but I have tons of videos and other file and pics that I don't want to lose or burn to disk. I am not seeing this option anywhere as I try to upgrade, I have seen pinning and using makedev, but these do not relate to me. Any help would be great.21:14
hayhi! I have a HP DL360G6 server that I have just installed 13.10 to and it has just one interface, em1... when I connect a cable from second LAN interface, the light for the NIC is on and the port on the access switch is up, however there is no message about the port state in syslog... I also get message that interface is not found when trying ifconfig em2, em3 etc... any ideas would be very21:14
haywelcome :)21:14
qinshortstraw8: is your home on separate partition?21:15
herpqin, Meerkat: thanks, but unfortunately only checking "Connect to wireless and ethernet networks" does not suffice. Normal user is still unable to connect to new wireless network. "System policy prevents modification of network settings for all users". But I dont even want to set it for all users. Only the current user.21:15
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shortstraw8qin, Nope unless it does it automatically on install, but i have never done that.21:16
Meerkatherp, I think that user has to logout and log back in for permissions to update. Forgot to mention that.21:16
herpMeerkat: tried restar already21:16
herprestart21:16
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qinshortstraw8: it does not...21:16
FluxDHi, is it possible to run 32bit .so file on 64bit ?21:17
shortstraw8qin,  so just make a partition and put my homefiles in it then update the system right? Just want to make sure.21:17
ClientAliveThere are two things I'd like to know about: (1) In system settings > online accounts, is there any way to add more things to the list off stuff in the right hand pane (eg: bitbucket)? And (2) Is there a way to make windows lanuch aligned with the center of the screen instead of the upper left corner (ie: all/every window, always)?21:18
qinshortstraw8: if you have space for new partition, sure. If you intend to resize something you wouldwant to make back up first21:19
ytogvo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6636154/21:19
shortstraw8qin, ok thank you.21:19
qinshortstraw8: while installing just make sure to choose manual partitioning and avoid formatting storage partition21:20
haywhere to look for a solution when one NIC is missing in the system although port is UP - is should be em2 I suppose but the system has only em1?21:20
gvoyto it was worth a shot, but there's nothing significant in that log.21:20
ytogvo, when sudo shoutdown -h now the output is : acpid:exiting      speech-dispatcher disabled; edit /etc/default/speech-dispatcher21:21
gvoyto what's failing could very well be happening after the local files have been unmouted.  In that case there would be no info.21:21
chrubuntu trying to get chrubuntu working on my acer c7. it downloads all the packages apparently but still boots to chromeos21:21
gvoyto those are pretty normal messages.21:22
qinhay: what is em1 and em221:23
chrubuntuis there some place i can get support, free or paid?21:24
hayqin, I have 2 LAN network interfaces on a server.. one is found and this is em1, however the second one is not anywhere... although when I connect a LAN cable to it the light on it is on and port is up on the access switch...21:24
qinchrubuntu: /j #chrubuntu there is someone there21:25
hayqin, and there is no "em2" anywhere in the dmesg, only "em1".. both interfaces are enabled in bios21:25
qinchrubuntu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=213623021:26
gvohay do you find both in lspci?21:26
gvohay what version of Ubuntu shows em? as an ethernet interface?21:28
haygvo, it's 13.10 installed on that machine21:30
gvoOK.21:30
gvohay does lspci show two network cards?21:31
haywell... not after the reboot both are there... I just disabled and enabled both in BIOS again to be sure21:32
haythanks for your time and sorry for bothering :)21:32
haygvo, now it does, just checked21:32
haydidn't check before that reboot when only one was avail21:33
gvoBut they don't show up in ifconfig -a?21:33
gvoSo problem solved?21:33
haygvo, yup. Solved. thx!21:34
Lunar_Landerevening and merry christmas! I got a new computer with 16 GB RAM instead of 2 GB and I wanted to ask if Ubuntu 12.04 can use it (I have the x86 version)? I read that PAE is the important thing but I found differing statements, saying it is default in 12.04 or in 12.1021:38
Lunar_Landersystem monitor shows me 15.3 GB RAM usable21:38
MathersMarshallI'm guessing it is using the RAM that it sees21:39
Lunar_LanderOK21:39
qinLunar_Lander: leave 90's, get 64 bit.21:39
Lunar_Landeryeah21:39
MathersMarshall^^What qin said :P21:39
Lunar_Landerso backup everything on HDD2, wipe HDD1 and get x64? :)21:39
MathersMarshallx64 ftw21:40
MathersMarshallI'm on a 32 bit though. Intel Atom -_-21:40
MathersMarshallIt's my only Ubuntu computer though. My main laptop runs Windows Vista21:41
Lunar_Landerah21:41
chrubunt_can anyone help me w chrubuntu on a c7 chromebook?21:42
qinMathersMarshall: Is Vista still suported?21:42
Lunar_Landeryea I got myself 11.10 x86 back them, I just got it because I knew my PC would run it, didn't check what you'd need for x64 back in the days21:42
Lunar_Landerwonder if a Core2Duo was x64 ready21:42
MathersMarshallqin: I'm not even sure, I know WinXP is until next year.21:42
Lunar_Landerqin, yes, Win XP support runs out now21:42
Lunar_Landerbut Vista for sure, "just" came out in 200621:42
MathersMarshallWith Ubuntu, I don't have to worry about product lifecycles/purchasing a new copy of windows or upgrading my hardware.21:43
Lunar_Landeryeah21:43
MathersMarshallSuck on that, OEM's.21:43
MathersMarshall^_^21:43
OerHekslscpu should tell you that.21:43
MathersMarshallHell, my grandmother is even running Linux on an old P1 Using puppy linux :321:43
chrubunt_can anyone recommend reasonable pay support for linux?21:43
Lunar_LanderI just had that discussion with a friend, that I today installed Vista on my old PC to give it back to my dad who loaned it to me21:44
Lunar_Landerand she said "I don't know the difference between Vista and 7" and I "Ah yea, you told me you are a linuxer as well" :)21:44
qinchrubunt_: have you checked link i have posted?21:44
chrubunt_qin: missed it - scrolling up21:44
Lunar_Landerbut she uses Suse21:45
Lunar_LanderxD21:45
qinchrubunt_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=213623021:45
qinchrubunt_: there is also channel #chrubuntu21:46
Lunar_Landerqin, and MathersMarshall a question just crossed my mind, do I have to wipe my HDD1 (would take time as it is 2 TB big) or can I just, after backup, put in a 12.04 x64 disc and "overwrite" the x86 system?21:46
MathersMarshallWait did you say 2TB? o_o21:48
Lunar_Landeryea21:48
MathersMarshallI envy you sir.21:48
MathersMarshallor madaam.21:48
Lunar_Landersir xD21:48
MathersMarshallWell, I envy you.21:48
MathersMarshall._.21:48
Lunar_Landeryeah I got an external HDD and ripped it open and got a Toshiba 2TB drive21:48
Lunar_Lander:P21:48
MathersMarshallAh, you just ripped the HDD from the enclosure then?21:49
qinLunar_Lander: shredding 2Tb would be highlight of ocd, you can simply repartiion and have a home and data on separate partitions with future upgrades/reinstalson the horizon21:49
Lunar_Landerok21:49
Lunar_Landeryeah would figure that, I think shredding would take a whole day21:49
Lunar_LanderMathersMarshall, yeah21:49
MathersMarshallNice :P I'm thinking of getting me an external HDD21:50
Lunar_LanderI opened the case, pulled the drive from that SATA-USB board and then put it into the PC21:50
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Lunar_LanderMathersMarshall, yea, Saturn (electronics shop) currently stocks the 2 TB ones again, for again 80 euro, but also has 3 and 4 TB for I think 110 and 140 euros21:54
christopherhi everybody :)21:54
Lunar_LanderI looked at a WD MyBook 3 TB (or so) but didn't buy it as I read reports of ubuntu not recognizing the drive21:54
mamedhello guys. where to find fbdev-backend.so21:54
kostkon!find fbdev-backend.so21:55
ubottuPackage/file fbdev-backend.so does not exist in saucy21:55
mamedkostkon, i did say i could not find the file on my system21:56
kostkonmamed, why are you looking for that file21:56
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mamedkostkon, i have ubuntu on virtualbox and want to try wayland weston21:57
mamedso drm s not supported and some guys in wayland room said that i can use fbdev-backend.so lib21:58
mamedbut this does not in /usr/libi386.../weston/ dir21:58
kostkonmamed, yeah only the version in 14.04 contains that file it seems http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/i386/weston/filelist22:01
kostkonmamed, olders versions don't22:01
mamedhmm22:01
mamedok thanks22:01
Guest84150kostkon: are you swedish?22:01
kostkonGuest84150, nope22:02
mamedwhy did u asl guest?22:02
mamedask*22:02
Guest84150haha okay. no but "kostkon" means "foodcow" in swedish ^^22:02
kostkonGuest84150, really? wow22:02
Guest84150yes haha :)22:03
mamedafaik food is mat in sweidsh22:03
mamedmat = food , meal dinner22:03
Guest84150yes, kost is a synonym :)22:03
MathersMarshallLol Kostkon XD22:03
Guest84150haha22:04
kostkon:(22:04
Guest84150why did you take that name? ^^22:04
mamedkost is verb means cpst in english22:04
mamedhur kostar det:P22:04
MathersMarshallVista ends support on April 11, 201722:05
MathersMarshallJust looked it up :p22:05
Guest84150mamed: hah, yes that too... but I'm swedish so I think I know it..22:05
mamedyeah i know . and i am a swedish learner22:05
mamedwell i was**22:05
mamednice and easy lang also old i think22:06
Guest84150mamed: ah fun! whats your language?22:06
mamednative turkish22:06
c_kornhello, why does libsdl-ttf2.0-dev not provide libSDL2_ttf-2.0.so.0 ?22:06
ikoniac_korn: the dev packages are headers22:07
c_kornikonia: oh yeah, sorry. actually I meant libsdl-ttf2.0-0 (the dev package just depends on it)22:08
ikoniac_korn because libsdl is not libsdl222:08
c_kornikonia: but why isn't there a libsdl2-ttf2.0-0 ? (like libsdl2-image-dev or libsdl2-mixer-dev)22:09
JazayriHi, i have sound output in vlc but not in clementine !22:09
ikoniac_korn: no idea, I'd have to look into what each package provides and why/how22:10
c_kornikonia: just found bug 1214922 . I don't think it will be backported to saucy :/22:12
ubottubug 1214922 in libsdl2 (Ubuntu) "ITP: libsdl2-ttf -- TrueType Font library for SDL2" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121492222:12
yangwi cc1plus: error: CPU you selected does not support x86-64 instruction set      when trying to compile seeborg-0.51 using     make      and -march=pentium , how can I solve this problem?22:15
plewhexit22:15
yangwi cc1plus: error: CPU you selected does not support x86-64 instruction set      when trying to compile seeborg-0.51 using     make      and -march=pentium , how can I solve this problem?22:19
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yangwi cc1plus: error: CPU you selected does not support x86-64 instruction set      when trying to compile seeborg-0.51 using     make      and -march=pentium , how can I solve this problem?22:24
SusningSuggestion for application to open, edit and save PDF-documents? Not just a reader....?22:26
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yangwi cc1plus: error: CPU you selected does not support x86-64 instruction set      when trying to compile seeborg-0.51 using     make      and -march=pentium , how can I solve this problem?22:29
gvoSusning: pdfedit22:30
Susninggvo, thanks22:31
SaberX01!pdf | Susning,22:31
ubottuSusning,: The Portable Document Format is created by Adobe; PDF files are viewable in Ubuntu with Xpdf, Okular, Evince and also Adobe Reader (free download, but closed source)22:31
BigWig__hey, some sort of problem with ALSA(?) I think, can anyone make sense of this: http://pastebin.com/dPhm9CL422:32
SaberX01Susning, Here's a pretty comprehensive list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PDF_software#Unix_and_Linux22:33
pabs3does rsync on Ubuntu lucid support any of the --delete* options? I'm trying to use them and getting an unknown option error.22:35
SaberX01yangwi, Try using -march=i686 flag during configure22:37
pabs3hrm, the rsync manual page says it does and the binary --help output does too.22:39
kostkonBigWig__, when trying to run alsamixer?22:40
BigWig__Yeah22:40
BigWig__It happens with anything audio22:40
hitsujiTMOBigWig__: have you tried deleting ~/.asoundrc ?22:41
kostkonBigWig__, it suggests "/home/paul/.asoundrc may be old or corrupted: consider to remove or fix it"22:41
kostkonBigWig__, move the file to another place, then reload alsa maybe or reboot22:42
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BigWig__Woo!22:43
BigWig__It's working!22:43
BigWig__Thank you!22:43
kostkonnice22:44
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demon^eyehow do i change program defualt opening files?23:05
helo_nhello all. I've just installed Bumblebee on my new Dell XPS 15 (2013), and tried to install Bumblebee.. it looks like everything installed okay, but when I try to use optirun, it says: [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: Could not load GPU driver23:05
demon^eyei mean i want to change file association opening23:05
helo_nI followed the directions on the Bumblebee Ubuntu wiki page, and I updated to nvidia-updates-319.. but still no luck.23:06
hitsujiTMOhelo_n: whats not working? did you relog so that your account is loaded with the bumblebee group?23:07
helo_nhitsujiTMO: I haven't tried that yet. So i just need to relog?23:07
helo_nbrb, let me try that23:08
RaimondiHi there. 'sudo /etc/init.d/transmission-daemon stop' just restarts the transmission, any pointers as to where to look to fix that? I just a somewhat ignorant newbie23:08
RaimondiI'm*23:08
helo_nhitsujiTMO: I relogged, but same thing23:11
donvltohow can i find were a file for example cccam.cfg were is located?23:11
somsipdonvlto: locate cccam.cfg23:11
hitsujiTMOhelo_n: what command are you executing and whats the result?23:12
donvltosomsip23:12
donvltoit gives me nothing23:12
helo_nhitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/QLzEJ7fW23:12
hitsujiTMOdonvlto: sudo find / -name cccam.cfg23:12
helo_nI'm running optirun -vv firefox23:12
somsipdonvlto: sudo find / -name cccam.cfg will do it but will be more intensive23:13
maujhsnHello folks! I'm running ubuntu-12.04 on a liveUSB. I ran dmesg and am concerned about this message readout:23:13
maujhsn(loop1): warning: maximal mount count reached, running e2fsck is recommended23:13
maujhsn[   16.602503] EXT3-fs (loop1): using internal journal...How do i correct the problem?23:13
RiotingPacifistin my polkit policies it is set to allow_active, however this does not seem to be working, ideas?23:14
hitsujiTMOhelo_n: can you pastebin the output of: lspci              and: cat /etc/bumblebee/*23:15
hitsujiTMOhelo_n: bumblebee may be configured for the wrong bus23:16
helo_nhitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/Li4CjV8a23:16
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hitsujiTMOhelo_n: also can you paste the output of: groups23:18
helo_nhttp://pastebin.com/SPU7y9vz23:18
helo_nhitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/SPU7y9vz23:18
helo_nhelo adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare bumblebee23:19
hitsujiTMOhmm, bus is correct. I notice the http://pastebin.com/QLzEJ7fW has references for nvidia-304 but you have bumblebee configured for nvidia-319-updates. can you pastebin the output of: dpkg --get-selections | grep nvidia23:22
adashi! can anyone give me advice on how to get rtorrent to start on boot on ubuntu?23:23
hitsujiTMOadas: you dont. you use transmission instead23:23
adashitsujiTMO: why is transmission better23:24
adashitsujiTMO: can u run it in terminal?23:24
hitsujiTMOadas: yes. yes. and even better... it has a web interface23:24
adas:o23:24
adasbut I have no x window on my ubuntu server23:24
hitsujiTMOadas: install transmission-daemon for the web interface23:24
adashitsujiTMO: I will definetly try it, but now I already configured my rtorrent, do you know a way to start it on boot?23:25
hitsujiTMOadas: takes a small bit to configure. gotta watch out that the daemon needs to be stopped when editing the settings file manually.23:26
adas:o23:26
hitsujiTMOadas: i don't. i gave up on trying to configure rtorrent when i discovered transmission23:27
adashitsujiTMO: aight ill get transmission now, brb23:27
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adashitsujiTMO: is there a special version that runs in terminal?23:28
adaslike -nox or something23:28
hitsujiTMOadas: transmission-cli i think is cli only. transmission-daemon is cli + web interface23:28
hitsujiTMOabas: both of those packages do not require x23:29
adastransmission-daemon it is then23:29
helo_nhitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/dVBcrMbj23:30
hitsujiTMOhelo_n: sudo apt-get purge nvidia-304 && sudo apt-get install --reinstall bumblebee-nvidia23:31
adashitsujiTMO: what file do I configure23:32
helo_nhitsujiTMO: done. do I relog now?23:32
hitsujiTMOhelo_n: reboot.23:33
helo_nk23:33
helo_nbrb23:33
hitsujiTMOadas: /etc/transmission-daemon/settings.json         just ensure that the daemon is stopped otherwise it will overwrite what you change. sudo service transmission-daemon stop23:35
adasthanks mate23:35
maujhsnHello folks! I'm running ubuntu-12.04 on a liveUSB. I ran dmesg and am concerned about this message readout: http://pastebin.com/NhZCK5be...How do i correct the problem?23:36
hitsujiTMOadas: info on the options are here https://trac.transmissionbt.com/wiki/EditConfigFiles23:37
adashitsujiTMO: thanks23:37
kostkonmaujhsn, "paste has been removed" better paste it here http://paste.ubuntu.com23:38
hitsujiTMOmaujhsn: if by the message you mean "This paste has been removed!" then you pix it by reuploading the paste23:38
hitsujiTMOs/pix/fix23:38
jhutchinsmaujhsn: It looks like it took care of the problem, but you might want to do sudo shutdown -Fr now to reboot and check the filesystem.23:42
maujhsnkostkon, hitsujiTMO, Thanks!23:42
maujhsnHello folks! I'm running ubuntu-12.04 on a liveUSB. I ran dmesg and am concerned about this message readout: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6636713/...How do i correct the problem?23:43
lubuntuhi23:43
jhutchinskostkon: By clerverly trimming the part that's not URL it's easy to reach.23:43
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jhutchinsmaujhsn: It's better to use paste.ubuntu.com, and try to leave a space after the URL so it's easier to copy and paste.23:44
jhutchinsmaujhsn: It looks like it took care of the problem, but you might want to do sudo shutdown -Fr now to reboot and check the filesystem.23:44
kostkonjhutchins, ooopsie23:44
Guest24488i want to make ubuntu livecd work from a fat32 usb harddisk with a casper-rw file persistence. is this possible? I have copied the casper directory (from lubuntu iso) to  the fat32 device and managed to boot is23:44
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maujhsnjhutchins, I give that a shot! But, what is the "-FR" switch?23:45
jhutchinsmaujhsn: You might want to install and enable smartmontools.  If you continue to see errors it's time for a new disk.23:45
jazzkutyai want to make ubuntu livecd work from a fat32 usb harddisk with a casper-rw file persistence on same device. is this possible? I have copied the casper directory (from lubuntu iso) to  the fat32 device and managed to boot it. this is a netbook, no cd/dvd drive.23:46
jhutchinsmaujhsn: F forces fsck, r means reboot as opposed to h for halt.23:46
jhutchinsmaujhsn: The manpage for shutdown is informative and fairly interesting.23:46
jhutchinsjazzkutya: Why does it have to be fat32?23:47
jazzkutyajhutchins, because i don't want to reformat this usb-harddisk23:47
Beldarjazzkutya, Many usb loaders have a persistent option up to 4 gigs, however you can make a larger casper-rw partition.23:48
maujhsnjhutchins I will  give it a shot usually I use, "sudo shutdown -h now"!23:49
jazzkutyaBeldar, please define or elaborate "usb loader"23:49
Beldarjazzkutya, iso to usb with boot23:49
jazzkutyaBeldar, oh you are talking about usb creators... everyone I've read about up to now erases the drive. that is not good for me.23:50
Lunar_Landershort question, If I want to upgrade to x64 from x86 now, shall I go for 12.04 or 13.10? and will 14.04 then replace 12.04 as LTS?23:50
hitsujiTMOjazzkutya: unetbootin doesnt23:50
helo_nhitsujiTMO: That broke everything. After restarting and then logging in, I get a blank black screen23:50
helo_nI have the laptop rebooted in the recovery menu now.23:51
jazzkutyahitsujiTMO, thx, will investigate unetbootin more23:51
hitsujiTMOhelo_n: delete any /etc/X11/xorg.conf23:51
adashitsujiTMO: so i can now apt-get remove rtorrent23:51
helo_nhitsujiTMO: I don't think I'm good enough with command line to do that.. can you walk me through it?23:52
helo_nshould I select root shell prompt?23:52
hitsujiTMOhelo_n: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf23:52
hitsujiTMOhelo_n: ahh you in busybox?23:52
kostkonLunar_Lamp, if you want an lts installation right now go with 12.04, if you can wait 4-5 months for 14.04, the next lts, go with 13.1023:52
kostkondamn23:52
kostkonLunar_Lander, ^^23:52
hitsujiTMOhelo_n: rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf23:53
helo_nhitsujiTMO: No I'm at the main menu of recovery mode23:53
helo_nSay no such directory23:53
helo_nsays no such file or directory*23:53
hitsujiTMO!text | helo_n try this23:54
ubottuhelo_n try this: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode23:54
Lunar_Landerthanks kostkon23:55
Lunar_Landerah and what is that thing about the Amazon lens in 12.10? is that still in?23:55
kostkonLunar_Lander, 13.10? yes, but you can turn it off easily23:55
Lunar_Landerah23:55
Lunar_Landeryeah just found it23:56
Lunar_Landerdisable "use online search results"23:56
Lunar_Landeris that is?23:56
aFeijohi23:56
Lunar_Lander*it23:56
kostkonLunar_Lamp, yes for all the online searches. alternatively, you can turn off any scopes you want individually23:56
Lunar_Landerah ok23:56
hitsujiTMOhelo_n: once in text mode you can log in as normal23:56
Lunar_Landeryeah I just read in the wikipedia that this amazon thing was added from 12.10 on and was considered an issue among people23:57
aFeijoI need to perma-map my network storage device. I installed mount.nfs, added a line in fstab, but it still dont work...23:57
hitsujiTMOhelo_n: do you have an ethernet cable you can used to get the laptop on the net?23:57
Lunar_Landerthanks kostkon !23:57
kostkonLunar_Lamp, to access the scopes list, click on Filter results in the dash or something like that23:57
Lunar_Landerah ok, thanks :)23:57
helo_nhitsujiTMO: the laptop doesn't have an ethernet port.. I have to use wifi23:58
helo_nI don't see the kernel line... what am I missing?23:59

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