[00:07] <DJRWolf> anyone know how to reinstall nvidia drivers from command prompt?
[00:12] <SaberX01> DJRWolf, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[00:12] <ScottJensen> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
[00:25] <DJRWolf> SaberX01 thanks
[00:26] <JohnnyL> what the sidebar icon thing called and how to I program it?
[00:28] <esde> unity
[00:31] <JohnnyL> hm ok
[00:31] <JohnnyL> thanks esde.
[00:32] <JohnnyL> my icon doesn't show up in the side when i start a program from a link.
[00:43] <Physicist> Greetings..
[00:44] <Physicist> How can i conect with a smart tv from ubuntu without use any cable?
[00:44] <blizblaze> .
[00:44] <Luyin> how do I find out in which way my network printer is connected, SMB CIFS or IPP?
[00:45] <airtonix> Physicist: i don't think ubuntu has support for WiDi yet
[00:46] <dipedup0> Mythtv
[00:46] <dipedup0> Mythtv will work
[00:47] <dipedup0> If the TV has an app for mythtv. Dlna also
[00:47] <Beldar> Physicist, I used as mini server for this and wifi, but I forget the server, info on the web, did not work really well, depends on what you want.
[00:47] <airtonix> dipedup0: that's nice, but can you back up that claim with a link that mythtv magically brings in support for WiDi (Wireless Display) ?
[00:48] <Physicist> Beldar: I would like to play a movie and send to my smart tv..
[00:48] <airtonix> dipedup0: or did you miss that part where Physicist said "...without use any cables"
[00:49] <airtonix> Physicist: does your TV support miracast or WiDi ?
[00:49] <Physicist> airtonix: I don't know.
[00:49] <Beldar> Physicist, I will look on the web for you, I believe there was a limitation to data speed transfer. My lap top has no hdmi so I just have a long usb cord.
[00:49] <airtonix> Physicist: you need to find that out first. because they are not the same thing.
[00:50] <airtonix> Physicist: remember you said "without use any cables" meaning you want to send the data wirelessly.
[00:51] <dipedup0> Most smart TVs have dlna  clients and Ubuntu has dlna servers. Mythtv also has DN
[00:51] <dipedup0> Most smart TVs have dlna  clients and Ubuntu has dlna servers. Mythtv also has DLNA server
[00:51] <Physicist> airtonix: Exactly. I have the cables but I do not want use than.
[00:51] <airtonix> dipedup0: which means nothing if you have to connect to it via a cable.
[00:51] <Physicist> *then
[00:51] <compdoc> dipedup0, is there a free service for tv guide info?
[00:52] <airtonix> dipedup0: the fact that a TV or a media device might have support for DLNA has nothing to do with it's supposed capability to wirelessly send data back and forth.
[00:52] <Physicist> I can connect with an Android device easily..
[00:53] <dipedup0> UPNP also known as DLNA
[00:53] <airtonix> Physicist: you still need to work out if it's miracast or WiDi. Android will have apps that do both. (you've not said which app your using)
[00:53] <Physicist> Beldar: I appreciate.
[00:53] <airtonix> dipedup0: your point is? upnp doesn't have anything to do with miracast or widi either.
[00:54] <Physicist> airtonix: AllShare. Its a galaxy s3 software.
[00:54] <Beldar> Physicist, I think if you have hdmi output on the computer I would hard plug it, however this thread mentions several media servers, Physicist
[00:54] <airtonix> Physicist: again. find out if it's WiDi or Miracast.
[00:55] <joebobjoe> Does anyone have any idea when VirtualBox will support Mir/Wayland?
[00:55] <Beldar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2080727   Physicist hehe
[00:55] <airtonix> Beldar: those all require using cables.
[00:56] <airtonix> Physicist: my point is going end up being this: ubuntu doesn't have support for WiDi or Miracast yet.
[00:56] <daftykins> joebobjoe: virtualbox channel people might know
[00:56] <Beldar> airtonix, what all do?
[00:56] <DarkSector> What's a good Desktop environment to run on 512 MB RAM?
[00:56] <DarkSector> Unity seems very laggy
[00:56] <airtonix> Physicist: Android has it because they already worked out the licensing issues.
[00:56] <dipedup0> Physicist: see if you have mythtv front end app on tv
[00:56] <Physicist> airtonix: Ok. I'm reading about Beldar 's tip.
[00:57] <daftykins> DarkSector: on that much RAM i don't think you'll be running much of anything
[00:57] <airtonix> Beldar: Physicist was asking "how to connect ubuntu to a smart tv ***without cables*** "
[00:57] <Beldar> airtonix, I have a nexus 7 I'm familiar.
[00:57] <airtonix> Beldar: which means : Widi or MiraCast.
[00:57] <SaberX01> DarkSector, Xfce, Xubuntu, LDXE works ok on mt Dell D400 .. but Xubuntu seems a bit smoother.
[00:58] <DarkSector> What about a window manager
[00:58] <Beldar> airtonix, Hmm I used several mini media servers on my brand new samsung on wifi, not sure if we are detailing this enough to really try some pointless argument
[00:59] <SaberX01> DarkSector, what do you me, what about it?
[00:59] <SaberX01> *mean
[00:59] <airtonix> Beldar: pointless?
[00:59] <JohnnyL> Hm, I'm getting Glib errors if I try to change Unity icon in gksu nautilus /usr/share/applications
[01:00] <airtonix> Beldar: it's like someone asking how do I print a page, and someone else suggesting they install gimp.
[01:00] <DarkSector> SaberX01 something like flux box or MWM
[01:00] <Beldar> airtonix, The link I gave have both ethernet wifi apps suggested on this exact description some on wired.
[01:00] <DarkSector> dipedup0 supp bro?
[01:00] <airtonix> Beldar: dlna, upnp have nothing to do with wireless transmission of display
[01:00] <airtonix> Physicist: Beldar, dipedup0 http://askubuntu.com/questions/318298/ubuntu-as-miracast-sender-receiver
[01:01] <DarkSector> dipedup0 you okay bro?
[01:01] <SaberX01> DarkSector, I used the default when installing xubuntu-desktop .. dont even know what it is off top of my head.
[01:01] <JohnnyL> Feelin' the burn Bra.
[01:01] <DarkSector> SaberX01 I think you don't need a DE for a window manager
[01:01] <JohnnyL> You have to feel the burn bra.
[01:02] <Physicist> Beldar, airtonix, I have to install independent software in the TV and i really do not want to do that. I realize that is much better option a hdmi cable. I'm sure the lost of quality is practically null.
[01:02] <SaberX01> DarkSector, I installed Xubuntu from scratch on that Laptop, then added Lubuntu later one, Xubuntu is a bit snappier.
[01:02] <DarkSector> Okay thanks
[01:02] <DarkSector> dipedup0 http://askubuntu.com/questions/318298/ubuntu-as-miracast-sender-receiver
[01:03] <SaberX01> DarkSector, is only 1.3Ghz 512mb RAM and like a 14" XGA display
[01:03] <dipedup0> Physicist: better off paying for a good android TV box
[01:03] <airtonix> Physicist: personaly until ubuntu supports WiDI (seriously miracast can go leap off a bridge), i hook up a tf101 via mini hdmi and install xbmc on that
[01:04] <SunMoonStar1> I set up a simple HTTP server on my localhost:8000 but I want others to be able to see it (public). I was told at #python to come here because it's an OS question
[01:05] <DarkSector> SunMoonStar1 Apache
[01:05] <DarkSector> or Nginx
[01:05] <SunMoonStar1> It is python using `python -m SimpleHTTPServer`
[01:06] <Physicist> Ok. Thank you all. I'm watching Batman now through hdmi cable. Good night of Christmas.
[01:06] <airtonix> SunMoonStar1: 1. you need both nginx and uWsgi 2. #ubuntu-server
[01:06] <DarkSector> SunMoonStar1 when you say public, you mean over internet?
[01:06] <DarkSector> or localhost?
[01:06] <DarkSector> I mean local network?
[01:06] <SunMoonStar1> yes, over the internet
[01:06] <DarkSector> Yeah you need nginx or apache
[01:07] <SunMoonStar1> Even if I"m using python SimpleHTTPServer ?
[01:07] <dipedup0> SunMoonStar1: open ports.
[01:07] <SaberX01> Anyone on the local LAN can already see it by the IP address, but outside the LAN is a whole differetn issue.
[01:07] <Aqua_Reef> SunMoonStar1: That's a network question.
[01:08] <airtonix> SunMoonStar1: in production you never use simple server. ever!.
[01:08] <munz> SunMoonStar1: can u see @ 122.0.0.1:8000 ?
[01:08] <Aqua_Reef> SunMoonStar1: Please divert to your router channel #cisco
[01:08] <dipedup0> SunMoonStar1: Google myip what's your public IP.
[01:08] <munz> * http://127.0.0.1:8000
[01:08] <hitsujiTMO> anyone know where the available xsessions are defined?
[01:08] <SaberX01> You need some kind of DNS record, and a whole in the router to allow traffic to and from the web-server
[01:08] <claudio_> Alguem aqui fala portugues?
[01:09] <DarkSector> SunMoonStar1 can do what dipedup0 said, or you could use something like nginx or apache with a static ip from your service provider.
[01:09] <dipedup0> SunMoonStar1: that's your local IP. We need your public ip
[01:09] <Aqua_Reef> SunMoonStar1: Please divert to your router channel #cisco
[01:09] <petris> Ho Ho Ho! Merry Christmas!
[01:09] <SaberX01> !pt | claudio_
[01:09] <hitsujiTMO> ahh, usr/share/xsessions ... easy enough find :P
[01:18] <DarkSector> Thanks guys, you've been a hoot
[01:18] <Hydr0p0nX> anyone able to help me get my sound working through hdmi ?
[01:18] <Hydr0p0nX> nvidia HDMI adapter, mcp78s
[01:25] <ChronicMasterBai> Hey
[01:26] <ChronicMasterBai> Ill be back soon to chat with you guys, was just testing
[01:30] <iFlip> Does anyone know a terminal command in Ubuntu that will show what files someone is downloaded from my Apache2 WebDAV server?
[01:30] <turtlesoup> I have been struggling with getting alsa to produce sounds. I have recently uninstalled it, then re installed it, then forced a reload. Then a reboot. still no sound.
[01:31] <turtlesoup> Any advice to get sounds out of my ubuntu?
[01:39] <hitsujiTMO> turtlesoup: do you get anything from: speaker-test -c 2
[01:39] <SchrodingersScat> iFlip: cat /var/log/apache2/access.log
[01:40] <kingbeast> turtlesoup, try doing alsamixer in the terminal and make sure everything is unmuted
[01:40] <SchrodingersScat> iFlip: cat /var/log/apache2/access.log | more # can pipe it so that you can work with it, but that's the log file, you can also check out the other log files, say if they are having trouble getting to a file.
[01:41] <colbyo> anyone in here familiar with LVM and disabling a USB stick keyfile?
[01:47] <CGI401> New ubuntu user question .. what is the linux "equivalent" of Windows' "Program Files" folder?  If there is one.  In other words, where's the typical place that new installs end up?
[01:48] <ponbiki_> CGI401: i guess what you're looking for is /bin
[01:48] <ponbiki_> or /sbin
[01:48] <ponbiki_> yadda yadda
[01:48] <ponbiki_> it's not quite the same though
[01:48] <zykotick9> CGI401: it's not so simple.  you can use "dpkg -L foo" to see where files get installed
[01:49] <CGI401> Well, i'm not searching for something.. I'm reading install instructions and it says to "install wherever you want" and i dont want to make a mess of my installation.
[01:49] <LjuL> if you're installing something that way, you're making a mess by definition :P
[01:49] <daftykins> CGI401: there's no one path for programs, simply put.
[01:50] <airtonix> CGI401: depends what it is. usually system wide user installed stuff goes in /opt/NameOfProgramHere/
[01:50] <CGI401> ok
[01:50] <airtonix> CGI401: and then it's best to make a system user just for that program to keep it isolated.
[01:51] <CGI401> ok let me not be so vague.  I am installing Couch Potato from source .. see this link https://couchpota.to/#linux   .. where would be a good place to put that?
[01:52] <airtonix> CGI401: there is instructions around that show you "Best Practice" way to install couch potatoe
[01:52] <SchrodingersScat> CGI401: did you see the last LAS?
[01:52] <CGI401> LAS?
[01:53] <airtonix> CGI401: and it follows the general pattern i just mentioned. 1. create system user that has no login ability and has it's home folder in  /opt/CouchPotatoe/  2.  use that user to install couchpotatoe 3. setup /etc/init/couchpotatoe.conf to run couchpotatoe as that user
[01:54] <airtonix> CGI401: and since CouchPotato is a python application, you'll want to use virtualenv to ensure it doesn't conflict with your system python libs
[01:54] <CGI401> hm interesting.  you lost me on that last part but i'll look it up .. thank you
[01:55] <airtonix> CGI401: it's generally not required, but definitely gives you piece of mind that updating system python won't break couchpotatoe
[01:56] <airtonix> CGI401: once you have couchpotato installed, then it will auto update itself using git
[01:56] <CGI401> great, thanks
[01:57] <CGI401> I'm having a lot of fun learning linux/ubuntu.. i've tried many times and failed because I was just reading tutorials.  built a new HTPC and forced myself to build it on linux .. and i've had to learn the hard way how to do things, and things are finally starting to stick
[01:58] <Nach0z> asdf
[01:58] <Nach0z> why so much potato
[01:58] <CGI401> do not question the potato
[01:58] <airtonix> CGI401: cool, but one thing that you should keep in the back of your mind is that most instructions shown how to install something (those couchpotato ones for example) are not generally the best way. They are quick dirty ways to get you introduced to the software.
[01:59] <CGI401> airtonix: where should i turn then?
[01:59] <airtonix> minimum required steps to get you invested
[02:00] <airtonix> CGI401: first I'd learn how to make upstart jobs (they are in the end a lot simpler than init.d), then I'd learn about installing daemons manually. best practices relating to security and so forth. finally i'd invest some serious time into configuration automation tools like ansible
[02:01] <airtonix> because manually installing stuff for the 465th time is boring
[02:02] <CGI401> heh so far my only experience with /init.d has been stop/start/restart
[02:03] <CGI401> so anything simpler than that is like.. not doing anything at all
[02:03] <airtonix> init.d jobs are pretty much bash scripts. so they have lots of room for failure
[02:04] <airtonix> upstart has a domain specific language, which greatly simplfies things and reduces the room for failure
[02:04] <airtonix> and when i say "failure" i mean errors you introduce as the developer of the job
[02:05] <CGI401> question.. if you don't mind.  can you give me the most basic, dumbed down description of what Screen is?  I keep hearing about it but I don't really understand
[02:06] <airtonix> CGI401: its like virtual desktops for the terminal
[02:06] <airtonix> combined with remote desktop or vnc
[02:06] <airtonix> but of course devoid of any vga type graphics.
[02:08] <CGI401> ok that makes sense
[02:08] <airtonix> CGI401: yeah it's great for keeping multiple tail -f /var/some/log running on a remote machine
[02:10] <CGI401> multiple tail meaning the logs run simultaneously on the same terminal screen?
[02:12] <airtonix> CGI401: yep, but you can switch between the screens just like you can on a gnome desktop with ctrl + alt+ up/down
[02:12] <CGI401> oh nice
[02:12] <SchrodingersScat> CGI401: screen is nice
[02:13] <airtonix> CGI401: but you use ctrl + a + n/p (next/previous)
[02:13] <airtonix> CGI401: actually it's not a simulanous key combo, more of a successive combo
[02:14] <airtonix> CGI401: there is also something called byobu which has a nicer interface with useful data
[02:15] <SchrodingersScat> CGI401: You can split up your window as well, so you can have htop on top of a log or something. http://aperiodic.net/screen/quick_reference
[02:15] <airtonix> CGI401: this is the general approach to how i setup "install it yourself" python/ruby/nodejs daemons/web apps: https://gist.github.com/airtonix/8119646
[02:16] <CGI401> I should have come here sooner
[02:16] <CGI401> so much good info, thank you guys
[02:17] <CGI401> I've read about that .. creating a system user to run applications .. but I kind of ignored it because it was just adding more confusion to things
[02:21] <binaryhat> im getting this--->http://pastebin.com/0DdMCbYB
[02:21] <CGI401> so based on your mini tutorial you posted.. I could have done the same thing with my Teamspeak3 server - create a TS3 user, and make it the owner of its own directory
[02:21] <uBUXUBu> ok skype stuck to my launcher this time
[02:21] <uBUXUBu> im running out of room now on my launcher... can i get 2 launchers?
[02:22] <DaemonicApathy> uBUXUBu: The default launcher, or a launcher program?
[02:22] <uBUXUBu> maybe if the launcher was across the bottom of my widescreen it would be longer thus hold more icons?
[02:23] <tnwnsf> which is better interms of artwork and overall beauty xubuntu or ubuntu  ?
[02:23] <SchrodingersScat> !poll | tnwnsf
[02:23] <uBUXUBu> ubuntu with some kubuntu apps seems best
[02:23] <tnwnsf> and a more coherent and intergrated interface ?
[02:24] <DaemonicApathy> uBUXUBu: In that case, the only way to get multiple/custom-positioned launchers would be to install something like docky or cairo-dock
[02:24] <uBUXUBu> ah ok
[02:24] <uBUXUBu> so i cant move the launcher to the bottom of my widescreen?
[02:24] <DaemonicApathy> Of course, you could also just scroll the one you have.
[02:24] <DaemonicApathy> No, that feature was specifically avoided.
[02:24] <uBUXUBu> didint know u could scroll it
[02:25] <uBUXUBu> so ur saying i can add more icons they just will be hidden till i scroll it?
[02:25] <DaemonicApathy> Mmhmm.
[02:25] <uBUXUBu> well thats pretty cool
[02:25] <DaemonicApathy> They'll fold at the top and bottom.
[02:25] <uBUXUBu> but i prefer too see my icons especially if the artwork is good
[02:25] <tnwnsf> SchrodingersScat, does xubuntu and ubuntu use the same artwork and fonts ?
[02:26] <uBUXUBu> oh fold that sounds interesting
[02:26] <tnwnsf> because debian xfce is UGLY
[02:26] <DaemonicApathy> uBUXUBu: Now that you know your options, feel free to play around with it.
[02:27] <uBUXUBu> well i guess ill just keep adding icons and then it will all happen right?
[02:28] <uBUXUBu> im full so as soon as i find one more that i need ill try it
[02:28] <uBUXUBu> is the ubuntu 1 cloud free?
[02:29] <esde> is this the easiest way to backup 12.04 desktop and restore it to a fresh, updated, 12.04 install for an experience like "nothing ever happened?"?
[02:29] <uBUXUBu> ok i see 5 gb free cool
[02:31] <uBUXUBu> im just really getting into 1204 it just seems so well done
[02:32] <DaemonicApathy> esde: What is "this"?
[02:32] <esde> oooops
[02:33] <esde> forgot link http://askubuntu.com/questions/378495/restore-with-back-in-time-after-fresh-install-of-ubuntu
[02:33] <esde> :|
[02:33] <SonikkuAmerica> tnwnsf: Xubuntu has its own artwork.
[02:33] <kungr> i like 12.04 as well, i like it with Gnome Shell even better
[02:33] <SonikkuAmerica> kungr: For most of my 12.04 days I used GNOME Classic.
[02:34] <uBUXUBu> lotta ppl like gnome ...i liked it but from the moment i saw unity i loved it
[02:34] <DaemonicApathy> esde: Seems like it.
[02:34] <nictrasavios> uBUXUBu, Amen brotha!
[02:34] <esde> Thanks
[02:34] <DaemonicApathy> I would assume some settings need to be retweaked, though.
[02:35] <SonikkuAmerica> !gnome | Speaking of GNOME
[02:35] <esde> DaemonicApathy, @me?
[02:35] <DaemonicApathy> esde: Yes.
[02:35] <nictrasavios> see | !ubuntu-gnome
[02:36] <RocketPenguin123> Alright, so i have moved a partition from one hard drive to another, how do i make it so it will boot correctly?
[02:36] <esde> like what would need to change? is there an existing guide that covers what im trying to achieve you could point me to
[02:36] <nictrasavios> !ubuntu-gnome | see
[02:36] <DaemonicApathy> RocketPenguin123: Install grub.
[02:36] <nictrasavios> Whoops... sometimes my brain is on backwards. It makes parking difficult.
[02:36] <kungr> SonikkuAmerica: Ya I liked classic from 7.04 through 10.04. Shell grows on you.
[02:36] <batzy> hey guys i plugging in an external hdmi monitor into my xubuntu box, and set the default monitor to it. A bunch of black boxes appeared so i rebooted it. But now when i log in it gets stuck at the login screen and wont load the xfce session
[02:37] <RocketPenguin123> DaemonicApathy,  How, exactly? sudo apt-get install grub?
[02:37] <SonikkuAmerica> kungr: But I'm a GNOME'er now.
[02:37] <batzy> Is there anyway i could set it back to the default screen?
[02:37] <DaemonicApathy> RocketPenguin123: grub-install /dev/sda(or whatever it happens to be)
[02:38] <RocketPenguin123> k thanks!
[02:38] <DaemonicApathy> np
[02:38] <RocketPenguin123> What if i have multipule partitions though?
[02:38] <DaemonicApathy> What OS are they?
[02:38] <batzy> hey guys i plugging in an external hdmi monitor into my xubuntu box, and set the default monitor to it. A bunch of black boxes appeared so i rebooted it. But now when i log in it gets stuck at the login screen and wont load the xfce session
[02:39] <SonikkuAmerica> batzy: Have you tried in #xubuntu ?
[02:39] <nictrasavios> I have to say, from the perspective of a programmer and Engineering/Physics student, Ubuntu is the only distribution I could think of using due to the repos and support. Unity is a wonderful desktop environment, and the window handling is by far its best part. The only thing I would ever change *for myself* is to put the bar on the bottom, and change the icons to text. Keep the window handling the same, the excellent visual cues the sam
[02:39] <nictrasavios> e, and the amazing menus the same.
[02:39] <batzy> SonikkuAmerica: yeah no one is there they said ask here
[02:39] <DaemonicApathy> nictrasavios: You can disable Unity and use a different dock if you like.
[02:40] <nictrasavios> DaemonicApathy, Lemme finish ;)
[02:40] <DaemonicApathy> nictrasavios: Of course, that will negate several nice features.
[02:40] <airtonix> CGI401: yep, then in your init.d or init up start job, when you launch the software you use the user create specifically for that daemon rather than just use root or (even worse) use your desktop user.
[02:40] <batzy> SonikkuAmerica: I can login with the guest account too
[02:40] <batzy> i think it just set that one users default monitor as the external
[02:40] <kungr> nictrasavios: you tried shell?
[02:41] <nictrasavios> So I did just that, by switching to cinnamon and writing my own extensions. Now it works with multiple monitors... and retains all the things I liked from unity. But for *everyone* else, I always always always reccomend unity.
[02:41] <airtonix> CGI401: it's really a preventative measure to limit possible damage in future. if you limit what that daemons user has access to then you can sort of control how much damage it could possibly do.
[02:41] <CGI401> airtonix: so.. sorry if this is way off .. but instead of "sudo somethingsomethingsomething", I'd type "couchpotato somethingsomethingsomething" ?
[02:42] <nictrasavios> kungr, Yup, worked well. Not better than cinnamon, but it definitely was nice. In the end, reliability and stability brought me to Ubuntu with Cinnamon. Although, I use unity occasionally for showcasing Ubuntu to others.
[02:42] <airtonix> CGI401: well since the root user is the one that's executing the upstart or init.d jobs you'd leave off sudo and use su. let me past from a live example from one of my servers.
[02:44] <kungr> nictrasavios: really never tried cinnamon. admittedly im a home user and not work related. did you use cinnamon on ubuntu or another distro?
[02:45] <nictrasavios> kungr, Before we get yelled at for being off topic, I'll PM you.
[02:46] <bobbycheetah> trying to boot from dvd and all that comes up is what looks like a keyboard icon + a person icon, and it just sits there.
[02:46] <airtonix> CGI401: well actually the couchpotato repo has the init.d job you want to use : https://github.com/RuudBurger/CouchPotatoServer/blob/master/init/ubuntu
[02:47] <nictrasavios> In case you're not sure, to reply type "/msg nictrasavios ...."
[02:47] <airtonix> CGI401: notice line 47: https://github.com/RuudBurger/CouchPotatoServer/blob/master/init/ubuntu#L47
[02:47] <CGI401> airtonix: ahh i see
[02:48] <airtonix> CGI401: so using that you'd create /etc/default/couchpotato and override those variables there.
[02:48] <bobbycheetah> 13.10 ubuntu-gnome amd 64
[02:49] <ObrienDave> bobbycheetah, a small one at the bottom?
[02:49] <CGI401> why /etc/default? this is the kind of thing that throws me off .. I guess I just need to learn the purpose of the directories
[02:49] <Guest33983> where did they hide the shortcut ctrl+alt+backspace to restart the x server option again?
[02:50] <bobbycheetah> yes at bottom of screen.  currently i'm on my imac and burning a dvd for 12.04.3 desktop amd 64 so i can try that next.
[02:50] <gordonjcp> Guest33983: it's still there, you need to re-enable it in the x.org config file though
[02:51] <gordonjcp> Guest33983: it's almost never useful
[02:51] <ObrienDave> bobbycheetah, could be a bad D/L. did you check the MD5 sum?
[02:51] <airtonix> CGI401: /etc/default is the directory where you generally keep configuration defaults.
[02:51] <Guest33983> would you know what directory that is in?
[02:51] <bobbycheetah> would be nice if my 4Gb thumb-drive would work.  I've been trying to use netbootin, but it never recognized it.
[02:51] <CGI401> airtonix:oh i see.  so.. comparing to windows, that would kind of be like .. the %appdata% directory
[02:51] <bobbycheetah> yes i've checked but will check again
[02:52] <airtonix> CGI401: because some daemons will allow you to run multiple processes which take their settings from something like /etc/programname/child.conf
[02:52] <airtonix> CGI401: isn't %appdata% just users settings?
[02:52] <CGI401> airtonix: right.. guess that wouldn't be defaults.  depends on if its installed for a specific user or all users
[02:53] <airtonix> CGI401: /etc/default is like "sane defaults, use these settings if there is no system operator defined overrides in /etc/whatever/"
[02:53] <CGI401> got it
[02:54] <airtonix> CGI401: just remember though that there is no magic. the use of /etc/default/something and /etc/programname/something/something/something/darkside is just a protocol on how to lay out configuration files
[02:55] <airtonix> CGI401: i would have a look at how virtual hosts work in nginx and apache with their /etc/nginx/sites-enabled/* and /etc/nginx/sites-available/* and then look at /etc/default/apache2
[02:55] <airtonix> CGI401: nginx and apache2 on ubuntu generally follow the same configuration setup
[02:55] <CGI401> airtonix: got it.  so.. one last question I think, and then i'll leave you alone.  :)  the use of couch potato requires another application in order to function .. utorrent, transmission, etc.   would I create a system user for those as well, or would I give the couchpotato user ownership of it?
[02:56] <airtonix> CGI401: yeah you use sabnzbd which allows communication through a RESTful api (confgi gui in couchpotato lets you put the api keys in there)
[02:56] <airtonix> CGI401: and yes , you sandbox setup sabnzbd the same way you'd do with couchpotato
[02:57] <CGI401> airtonix: well I'm not using usenet, don't subscribe anymore.. but for conversation's sake.. I would create a sabnzbd user?
[02:57] <Nach0z> I dunno what couch potato is but I am learning to despise it
[02:58] <airtonix> CGI401: yeah. but what you call it is up to you :) i think couchpotato communicates with transmission as well ?
[02:58] <CGI401> airtonix: yep
[02:59] <glitsj16> bobbycheetah: if unetbootin doesn't work for you, perhaps you can try a native OS X approach .. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[02:59] <CGI401> airtonix: i was initially confused how couchpotato would communicate with sabnzbd if they are each on their own user accounts, but I guess it's probably communicating over a web interface which sabnzbd exposes
[03:00] <bobbycheetah> will check that out. thx.
[03:00] <airtonix> CGI401: yep a restful api endpoint
[03:00] <CGI401> airtonix: oh, so that's what you meant lol
[03:01] <CGI401> airtonix: thanks so much for all the help.  I think I'm comfortable going from here
[03:01] <airtonix> CGI401: http://wiki.sabnzbd.org/api
[03:01] <airtonix> CGI401: good luck
[03:03] <Noiro> sudo apt-get purge programname is the uninstall command, yes?
[03:03] <airtonix> Noiro: it's a bit more than just uninstall.
[03:03] <airtonix> Noiro: that will also destroy any config files
[03:09] <CGI401> does cp command overwrite without asking?
[03:10] <SchrodingersScat> CGI401: last I checked
[03:10] <CGI401> crap
[03:10] <glitsj16> CGI401: use the -i switch with cp to make it prompt you
[03:11] <CGI401> now to figure out how to undo what i just did ..
[03:11] <Hydr0p0nX> uh oh
[03:12] <CGI401> it is ok.. I copied over a default file .. i think.  not sure if there was ever a file there or not, but something i read led me to believe there was
[03:13] <Hydr0p0nX> eh
[03:14] <Hydr0p0nX> what file and what version ?
[03:16] <CGI401> .  /etc/defaults/couchpotato/ubuntu
[03:17] <Hydr0p0nX> yea, can't help with that one
[03:17] <Hydr0p0nX> sorry
[03:17] <CGI401> np
[03:17] <CGI401> i am starting over with the git clone
[03:17] <CGI401> dunno if that will do anything but only way to find out
[03:20] <CGI401> airtonix: broke something I think
[03:21] <airtonix> CGI401: that file doesn't exist unless you create it.
[03:21] <airtonix> CGI401: and it can just be /etc/default/couchpotato if you want
[03:22] <airtonix> CGI401: since that's what the init script is looking for : https://github.com/RuudBurger/CouchPotatoServer/blob/master/init/ubuntu#L17
[03:22] <CGI401> airtonix: when you said "so using that you'd create /etc/default/couchpotato and override those variables there. " .. did you mean to copy the init.d job into that directory?  that's what i did, and when I opened it it said "do not edit this file"
[03:22] <CGI401> airtonix: so i thought maybe i overrided something
[03:23] <airtonix> CGI401: nah the init script goes to /etc/init.d/couchpotato and you create the file "/etc/default/couchpotato"
[03:24] <CGI401> airtonix: oh, so /etc/default/couchpotato stays empty until the application puts something in there?
[03:25] <zagfox> hello world
[03:25] <CGI401> hi user
[03:25] <airtonix> CGI401: https://gist.github.com/airtonix/8119934
[03:26] <airtonix> CGI401: it's for you to override the default settings that the init script would use. (normally I would be putting something like this in /etc/couchpotato since it's not going to run multiple copies of itself.)
[03:27] <CGI401> airtonix: OH.... so /etc/default/couchpotato itself is a configuration file, not a folder?
[03:28] <CGI401> this is so confusing
[03:28] <airtonix> CGI401: yeah. if you look at ilne 17 of the init script, it's also not required.
[03:28] <airtonix> line*
[03:28] <CGI401> airtonix: got it.. thank you
[03:29] <airtonix> CGI401: not sure if you already know this, but you also need to register it to the initv daemon: sudo chmod +x /etc/init.d/couchpotato && sudo update-rc.d couchpotato defaults
[03:30] <airtonix> CGI401: that will tell the initv system that it needs to run it on startup
[03:30] <CGI401> airtonix: yea that is in the instructions on CP's website.. more or less
[03:30] <CGI401> airtonix: but thanks to you i now know && i used to run two commands in one line
[03:32] <frybye> hi folks - happy christmass.. enjoye your ubuntu..
[03:35] <colbyo> I'm trying to see whats going on in my boot process, it's just stopping after the hardware check, but it's not giving me any failures or notifications. Is there a way to see more of whats going on?
[03:36] <wo0t> hi, merry xmas everyone
[03:37] <colbyo> Booting with 'debug text noplymouth'.
[03:37] <kingbeast> wo0t, merry xmas
[03:51] <bobbycheetah> glitsj16: is the "create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx"  for if I want to boot my mac with it?
[03:52] <glitsj16> bobbycheetah: it's instructions for making a bootable ubuntu live usb on a mac
[03:53] <bobbycheetah> ok.  step 9 says to run diskutil eject /dev/disk2 - but that is not mounted b/c of step 7.
[03:53] <bobbycheetah> can i just pop it out and try it on my other pc now?
[03:53] <glitsj16> let me load that page again, just a moment please
[03:53] <bobbycheetah> ok. step 8 was succesful
[03:55] <glitsj16> bobbycheetah: yes that's how i understand it, if step 8 worked basically your good to try booting it
[03:55] <bobbycheetah> ok. will give it a go. thx
[03:56] <glitsj16> bobbycheetah: fingers crossed, goodluck
[03:56] <xubuntu> nice
[03:57] <Xjdm> btw, volume is turned off by default
[03:57] <Xjdm> that and the volume widget doesnt work
[03:58] <glitsj16> Xjdm: on what version ?
[03:58] <Xjdm> the latest, v13.10
[03:58] <Xjdm> i read a review comparing performace of L, X and vanilla Ubuntu
[03:58] <CGI401> airtonix: sorry.. me again.  i ran sudo chmod +x /etc/init.d/couchpotato && sudo update-rc.d couchpotato defaults  like you (and the CP instructions) said.. and it said it was added to startup.. rebooted the server and it didn't start.  Put APP_PATH = /usr/local/couchpotato in defaults dir .. did i miss something?
[03:58] <Xjdm> so i decided to use Xubuntu
[03:58] <glitsj16> Xjdm: i believe for xubuntu 13.10 that's a known bug, let me check my bookmarks
[03:59] <glitsj16> Xjdm: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2182038&p=12822062#post12822062 might revive your broken sound indicator
[04:00] <Xjdm> the audio is also turned off by default
[04:01] <glitsj16> Xjdm: that might be related, not sure .. the indicator might be stuck in mute so once you get it back you can try unmuting
[04:02] <Xjdm> im using the live version to try it out
[04:02] <Xjdm> i like it so far, it's very fast
[04:03] <glitsj16> it sure is, always liked xubuntu, didn't install the latest yet but tested the live cd
[04:04] <glitsj16> that's how i know about the sound indicator bug
[04:05] <Xjdm> im testing memory usage and overall performance and responsiveness
[04:09] <glitsj16> the one thing i miss on live versions is a user-friendly way to activate proprietary graphics drivers too, but i guess that's wishfull thinking ..
[04:09] <DaemonicApathy> Keep in mind, live versions will always be a bit more prone to latency, due to the difference between ODD/USB/SATA HDD speeds.
[04:10] <tuxguy> How do I get virtualbox puel in 13.10 ?
[04:11] <Xjdm> this thing is running pretty quickly
[04:12] <Xjdm> going to due a bit more research first though
[04:12] <Xjdm> firefox is such a memory hog
[04:12] <Xjdm> there needs to be Firefox Lite
[04:12] <Xjdm> which is what firefox was suppose to be to begin with
[04:14] <DaemonicApathy> With each tab running as a separate process, memory usage can get pretty high.
[04:17] <Xjdm> Why does running each tab in a seperate process use more memory?
[04:17] <Xjdm> my web browser shouldnt use 1.5GB of RAM
[04:17] <Xjdm> that is insane
[04:27] <Guest21304> test
[04:27] <SchrodingersScat> Guest21304: test received
[04:27] <batzy> What a lovely username.
[04:31] <bobbycheetah> glitsj16: it worked. thx for your help!
[04:32] <such_coins> I need some urgent help copying files to a read-only flash drive. Can anyone help?
[04:32] <such_coins> oh nm
[04:32] <such_coins> got it :P
[04:33] <glitsj16> bobbycheetah: nice to hear that , enjoy the fresh system
[04:33] <such_coins> thanks anyways!
[04:33] <airtonix> CGI401: is /usr/local/couchpotato where you installed it to?
[04:34] <CGI401> airtonix: yeah .. when I try to run "service couchpotato start" it says: /etc/init.d/couchpotato: 2: /etc/default/couchpotato: APP_PATH: not found
[04:34] <airtonix> CGI401: https://github.com/RuudBurger/CouchPotatoServer/blob/master/init/ubuntu#L51
[04:34] <CGI401> airtonix: inside default/couchpotato is APP_PATH = /usr/local/couchpotato/
[04:34] <airtonix> CGI401: oops, remove the spaces
[04:34] <Mike9863> What's the best way to identify connections coming from a DoS attack on a webserver?
[04:35] <CGI401> airtonix:you mean APP_PATH=blah  instead of APP_PATH = blah ?
[04:35] <airtonix> CGI401: yeah
[04:35] <CGI401> airtonix:ohh... thanks, will try
[04:36] <airtonix> CGI401: also if you're using /etc/default/couchpotato then you want to override the second variable listed in the init script
[04:37] <airtonix> CGI401: ie : https://github.com/RuudBurger/CouchPotatoServer/blob/master/init/ubuntu#L51 << you set CP_HOME instead of APP_PATH
[04:37] <airtonix> CGI401: since it's saying " APP_PATH will be CP_HOME (if it exists) otherwise use the string "/opt/couchpotato/"
[04:38] <CGI401> airtonix: Ohh.. that explains the 2nd error I was getting then, I think
[04:38] <CGI401> start-stop-daemon: unable to chdir() to /opt/couchpotato/ (No such file or directory)
[04:39] <q_a_z_steve> Is there a way I can still get into 12.04.3 Desktop on my 2009 Macbook Pro if I'm seeing this: http://picpaste.com/Xp3XnjRM.jpg
[04:39] <q_a_z_steve> I was able to use boot options for the liveCD to see this. All I knew how to do was turn off quiet and splash...
[04:40] <airtonix> q_a_z_steve: which macbook pro? there are like 7 versions of it
[04:40] <airtonix> it's crazy
[04:40] <q_a_z_steve> airtonix: Mid 2009 15"
[04:41] <airtonix> Hey lets create a simple "not computer" and then create a bunch of difference versions of it, and then call them all the same name.... /thumbs-up
[04:41] <airtonix> q_a_z_steve: so you don't have to use uEFI then ?
[04:42] <q_a_z_steve> I don't know what that is.
[04:42] <CGI401> airtonix: yay, new error .. start-stop-daemon: unable to set gid to 999 (Operation not permitted)   .. do I need to set RUN_AS as root or something?
[04:42] <airtonix> q_a_z_steve: i was under the impression that uEFI was required. so i've always used something like refit
[04:42] <airtonix> or was it refind?
[04:42] <q_a_z_steve> to boot a liveCD?
[04:42] <airtonix> CGI401: did you chown couchpotato:couchpotato /usr/local/couchpotato -R ?
[04:43] <q_a_z_steve> I probably need some such, because I want to say even a stamped 7.10 CD I had didn't work.
[04:43] <airtonix> q_a_z_steve: have you looked at the ubuntu wiki? there are quite a few pages there about macosx
[04:44] <CGI401> airtonix:sure did
[04:44] <q_a_z_steve> I haven't because I wasn't sure where to start, with those drm lines or something else.
[04:44] <FluxD> Hi, I have been trying to install ubuntu 13.10 on an ssd with usb install nd whatever I do, it will boot back with a grub error. I have tried with uefi on and off. Please help. grub reinstall didn't work nor did boot-repair
[04:48] <q_a_z_steve> airtonix: I did download the 64bit Mac version of the iso, if that helps.
[04:48] <airtonix> q_a_z_steve: definitely. can't do much without that. but you should read the help/wiki pages. it's been a long time since i bothered to touch a apple product.
[04:49] <q_a_z_steve> I'm looking...
[04:50] <q_a_z_steve> where can I find which number (11,1) or whatever my macbook pro is, to further align myself with how these are going to be listed?
[04:50] <airtonix> CGI401: i'm testing this out.
[04:52] <q_a_z_steve> installed OS is mavericks... I'm still not able to see anything that can even get me started.
[04:52] <CGI401> airtonix: OK.  Here's some info:  https://gist.github.com/anonymous/695be8a011e6029f37e1
[04:53] <airtonix> q_a_z_steve: i'm pretty sure the first think you need to do is get http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/ running.
[04:53] <airtonix> thing*
[04:54] <airtonix> CGI401: and output of : ls -al /usr/local/couchpotato
[04:55] <q_a_z_steve> I have had rEFIt before, I'm remembering, but I have since wiped my harddrive. I assume it went with.
[04:55] <CGI401> airtonix: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6f1da8779e277603dc1f
[05:01] <q_a_z_steve> airtonix: 5,3 That's what I have. Are there sites that explain when EFI comes into existence/necessity? Which determines that, the hardware, or the software I'm trying to boot?
[05:02] <airtonix> CGI401: https://gist.github.com/airtonix/8119934
[05:02] <airtonix> CGI401: looks like you need to move files up a level
[05:05] <BackTrack_r5> php5-curl: Depends: php5-common (= 5.3.2-1ubuntu4.9) but 5.3.2-1ubuntu4.17 is to be installed
[05:05] <BackTrack_r5> im running backtrack, how can i update php5-common to 5.3.2
[05:06] <CGI401> airtonix: just to be clear, are you asking me to go through each of those steps? including placing it in /opt/?
[05:06] <bazhang> !backtrack | BackTrack_r5
[05:06] <BackTrack_r5> hmmmmm
[05:06] <BackTrack_r5> what are you saying?
[05:06] <q_a_z_steve> airtonix: I should mention that on the 7.10 CD no matter whether I remove quiet and splash I immediately get kicked out to BusyBox.
[05:07] <airtonix> CGI401: no, it's just there to show you what you've done different. the main thing is that you have /usr/local/couchpotato/CouchPotato/couchpotato.py when it should just be /usr/local/couchpotato/couchpotato.py
[05:08] <airtonix> CGI401: also github just ate my gist. :<
[05:09] <CGI401> airtonix: actually, it's /usr/local/couchpotato/CouchPotatoServer/couchpotato.py .. the CouchPotatoServer directory is included in the git
[05:09] <spvensko> merry christmas
[05:09] <airtonix> CGI401: nope. that what git does if you don't provide a destination.
[05:10] <CGI401> airtonix: oooooh well that explains it.  that's what CP's website says in the instructions... no destination https://couchpota.to/#linux
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> merry xmass: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6628415/
[05:10] <CGI401> airtonix: that was the first thing I did before I came on IRC.. so that explains a lot
[05:11] <airtonix> you could just change the CP_HOME to point at the folder that holds couchpotato.py
[05:15] <liulei> m
[05:16] <BackTrack_r5> so is kali-linux the backtrack replacement?
[05:16] <CGI401> airtonix: nope.. still same thing.  https://gist.github.com/anonymous/c4dabf84dd4af1484cd7
[05:16] <Apollo> anyone have some good recommendations on tutorials for the terminal?
[05:16] <Apollo> i think i found a list somewhere on the ubuntu site but it is numerous.
[05:17] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal Apollo
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> !kali | BackTrack_r5
[05:19] <Apollo> so is the ubuntu site pretty much the best source for learning the terminal then?
[05:19] <Apollo> i guess so, i wish i could find that link to a bunch of tutorials though damn
[05:20] <DaemonicApathy> This one?: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[05:20] <bazhang> !rute | Apollo there's this
[05:21] <bazhang> !manual | Apollo and this
[05:22] <bazhang> Apollo, for bash scripting, there's http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[05:22] <bazhang> and freenode has a channel #bash as well
[05:24] <CGI401> airtonix: might have gotten it.  i added CP_USER=couchpotato in the /etc/default/couchpotato, then ran "sudo service couchpotato start" and it took. even though CP_USER was set to couchpotato in the init.d file
[05:24] <airtonix> CGI401: https://gist.github.com/airtonix/8120365
[05:25] <airtonix> CGI401: i think your start-stop error is related to something else
[05:25] <CGI401> airtonix: it worked!  rebooted server and it started.
[05:25] <Rourick> hello :)
[05:26] <Rourick> new user here would u recommend 12.04lts  or 13.10?
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> Rourick: i would go for the 12.04 lts
[05:26] <airtonix> CGI401: can you access it via browser: http://servier.ip.or.name.local:5050/
[05:27] <Rourick> hey thanks will do
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> Rourick: depends on your needs of course, lts will be 5 years support
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> Rourick: and soon you will be able to upgrade to 14.04
[05:27] <DaemonicApathy> 12.04 will be supported longer, and require less upkeep. 13.10 will have newer features, and lead you into the next version, which will also be LTS. Personally, I'd go with 12.04 for now.
[05:27] <Rourick> ok ty
[05:28] <uBUXUBu> how do i reset my top panel i cant get at my power off icon top right anymore?
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> Rourick: and welcome to the ubuntu community!
[05:28] <CGI401> airtonix: yea, web interface worked after server reboot
[05:28] <airtonix> CGI401: actually i can't remember which port it is
[05:28] <Rourick> :)
[05:29] <uBUXUBu> there used to be a terminal command to rest the panels
[05:29] <uBUXUBu> cant recall it
[05:29] <CGI401> airtonix: for some strange reason, it required me to have CP_USER=couchpotato in etc/default/couchpotato  .. even though the init.d script has RUN_AS=${CP_USER-couchpotato}
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> uBUXUBu: lightdm reset maybe? not sure
[05:30] <darius93> does mariadb seem slower than mysql?
[05:30] <Apollo> DaemonicApathy, no not that tutorial, like it was a page with 20-30 or so hyperlinked pages to go to for tuts.
[05:30] <uBUXUBu> in terminal u mean?
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> Apollo: there are also good ubuntu ebooks that you can download free
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> uBUXUBu: maybe here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/125662/how-to-reset-gnome-panel
[05:32] <uBUXUBu> dammit my power button icon os too far off screen weird
[05:32] <Apollo> ubottu, thankyou, some of those links i did not have and will have to investigate, im sure they will help.
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> uBUXUBu: maybe you just need a resolution fix?
[05:33] <CGI401> airtonix: going to use what I learned to attempt to install transmission under its own user account .. can't thank you enough for all the help.  I learned a lot
[05:33] <airtonix> CGI401: good stuff
[05:34] <Apollo> bazhang, im not sure what u mean by !rute and !manual, is that some sort of referment to the terminal man and info command?
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> Apollo: man pages are specific manuals to a package, to help you with commands
[05:35] <airtonix> Apollo: he was using the bot to link you to wiki pages
[05:36] <uBUXUBu> im screwd
[05:36] <bazhang> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com   Apollo
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> uBUXUBu: plz mind your language
[05:36] <uBUXUBu> cant reset that top panel?
[05:38] <uBUXUBu> how do i turn this off?
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> uBUXUBu: did you try command from the url i linked you?
[05:38] <uBUXUBu> yes of course
[05:39] <uBUXUBu> now the bottom of xchat is almost gone
[05:39] <uBUXUBu> ok got that back
[05:39] <uBUXUBu> but my power off is gone
[05:40] <uBUXUBu> will i hurt it of i crash it
[05:41] <Smedles> afternoon all
[05:41] <Smedles> wondering if anyone can help me diagnose an issue I periodically experience with my Ubuntu Server running 13.10...
[05:42] <Smedles> every few weeks I experience issues where machine on the local LAN cannot connect to the server using it's internal LAN address - no matter which port - whether it be ssh, samba, webmin, http, etc
[05:42] <Smedles> around the same time, server connections over the internet momentarily drop out (so quasselcore connection drops out)
[05:42] <Smedles> sometimes these just go away, others I need to reboot the server then everything is good.
[05:43] <Smedles> Any ideas?
[05:43] <airtonix> Smedles: bad network card?
[05:43] <airtonix> Smedles: hook up a monitor to the server and have : tail /var/log/syslog -f running
[05:44] <Smedles> airtonix: i guess that's something easy I could test - not sure what free pci ports I have on that box tho (its a N40L microsoerver)
[05:44] <airtonix> Smedles: not familiar with that.
[05:44] <Smedles> http://www8.hp.com/au/en/products/proliant-servers/product-detail.html?oid=4248009#!tab=features
[05:45] <airtonix> Smedles: i've experienced a problem where problematic drives will cause faults and then cause dbus to drop out which then takes out a bunch of other services like ssh
[05:45] <Smedles> airtonix: but I can connect to ssh via external IP jst not internal
[05:45] <Smedles> so the daemon is still running
[05:46] <airtonix> time to eliminate hardware then
[05:46] <DaemonicApathy> I keep thinking I'm being called...
[05:46] <airtonix> Smedles: i'd head over to #ubuntu-server and ask there on idle mode
[05:49] <Smedles> only unusual thing in syslog from around the time I had the issue yesterday is:
[05:49] <Smedles> Dec 24 15:30:09 NAS avahi-daemon[917]: Got SIGTERM, quitting.
[05:50] <Smedles> followed by some other errors
[05:50] <Smedles> but network is a good though - appreciate the tip
[05:51] <SetiAmon> Hey can anyone tell me why every single one of my games my mouse resets into the center of the screen constantly making gaming impossiable
[05:54] <bazhang> SetiAmon, games on wine?
[05:54] <SetiAmon> yep
[05:54] <SetiAmon> well i think so
[05:54] <SetiAmon> amnesia
[05:54] <bazhang> check the appdb and ask in #winehq
[05:54] <bazhang> !appdb
[05:55] <SetiAmon> gaming on linux is such a pain
[05:56] <SaberX01> While it's possible to use wine, game performance id poor at best. If at all possible, use native Linux games.
[05:56] <SaberX01> *is
[05:57] <SetiAmon> still get odd satisfaction from playing games or anything on linux.i just went back to it after windows f'd
[06:15] <ItsMeLenny> hello, ive just downloaded ubuntu 13.10 64bit live and put it onto a usb stick, and everytime it boots it just boots into this terminal screen
[06:15] <ItsMeLenny> some other fs
[06:16] <duythinht> hi
[06:17] <ItsMeLenny> some sort of fs, i forget what it was, but it was just a terminal prompt
[06:22] <ItsMeLenny> any help would be appreciated
[06:22] <bazhang> busybox?
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> ItsMeLenny: did you have same issue on 12.04?
[06:22] <ItsMeLenny> bazhang, thats the one!
[06:22] <ItsMeLenny> lotuspsychje, no, never encountered it in my life
[06:22] <bazhang> ItsMeLenny, how did you put it on usb stick
[06:22] <ItsMeLenny> usb-creator
[06:23] <bazhang> ItsMeLenny, did it ever work?
[06:23] <ItsMeLenny> when i tried doing it via dd it wouldnt even get recognised
[06:23] <ItsMeLenny> bazhang, usb-creator has worked for me, it worked when i did 13.10 i386 on a laptop
[06:24] <ItsMeLenny> dd used to work for me also
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> ItsMeLenny: can you try enter grub and choose kernel in recoverymode?
[06:24] <ItsMeLenny> lotuspsychje, it's the live cd, it's not installed
[06:24] <ItsMeLenny> live cd on usb
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> ItsMeLenny: so at wich part you get the terminal?
[06:25] <ItsMeLenny> i see the purple screen with the man and the keyboard down the bottom, then it goes into busybox
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> ItsMeLenny: uefi machine?
[06:26] <ItsMeLenny> pardon?
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> ItsMeLenny: what was default Os on the machine you try to install?
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> ItsMeLenny: w7? w8?
[06:28] <ItsMeLenny> lotuspsychje, none, i built the computer myself
[06:28] <ItsMeLenny> it's one i've had for a few years with various upgrades over the years
[06:29] <ItsMeLenny> i wasnt going to upgrade ubuntu from 12.04 to 14.04, but i completely screwed the system, it's barely operating
[06:29] <ItsMeLenny> :P
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> ItsMeLenny: hmm strange, maybe try ubuntu 12.04 on stick, see what it does for your machine?
[06:29] <ItsMeLenny> its worked
[06:29] <ItsMeLenny> thats what i have on now
[06:29] <ItsMeLenny> and various version before have worked also
[06:29] <ItsMeLenny> been on ubuntu since about 7
[06:30] <ItsMeLenny> or 8
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> ItsMeLenny: re-install 12.04 clean maybe, im waiting 14.04 also
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> 13.10 got lots of issues with screens
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> many users come here with blank reboots
[06:30] <ItsMeLenny> yeah, i was thinking of it, but i upgraded half the system files anyway to quantel stuff, and i need later kernels thahn what 12.04 uses
[06:31] <ItsMeLenny> oh really?
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> im not saying its unfixable right
[06:31] <ItsMeLenny> should i go 13.04 then
[06:31] <ItsMeLenny> yeah
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> 13.04 is rocksolid im on it, but support end almost
[06:31] <ItsMeLenny> 12.04 kernels are too old for me tho, with some of my hardware
[06:31] <ItsMeLenny> that's alright, i'll upgrade by support end
[06:32] <ItsMeLenny> or at least a couple of months after
[06:33] <ItsMeLenny> ok, i'll download the 3rd cd for the day :P maybe i should grab alternate instead of live
[06:33] <ItsMeLenny> or maybe i might just try 13.10 with a different usb stick, could the usb stick be the rpoblem?
[06:34] <imghost> lotuspsychje, "13.10 got lots of issues with screens" please support this statement give us some details :)
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> ItsMeLenny: i dont think so mate
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> ItsMeLenny: as you see the purple screen
[06:36] <ItsMeLenny> whered the other 'disks' program go, this one is rubbish
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> imghost: im just observing similar issues on 13.10
[06:36] <ItsMeLenny> lotuspsychje, i'll give it a go, if all else fails i'll grab 13.04
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> ItsMeLenny: ill be on 13.04 until 14.04 comes out, even unsupported
[06:38] <ItsMeLenny> lotuspsychje, yeah i'd do the same if i installed 13.04
[06:38] <ItsMeLenny> i'll still upgrade to 14.04 when it comes out regardless tho
[06:38] <imghost> lotuspsychje, thats not an answer mate, actually graphics cards of some machines causing the problems and so upstreams kernel is not able to load the correct modules on boot and hence they get "black screen"
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> imghost: im just saying i see alot of 13.10 comming by here mate...
[06:39] <imghost> lotuspsychje, ok, :)
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> imghost: i never said he cant install it
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> everyone may do what he likes
[06:40] <SaberX01> I do too, seems 13.10 not as stable on some platforms as allot of folks may think.
[06:40] <ItsMeLenny> yeah, i gathered that, i'm keeping the warning in mind, but i'll cross my fingers
[06:40] <imghost> ok
[06:40] <ItsMeLenny> oh, now its not as stable?
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> yes its stable
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu is always stable
[06:41] <ItsMeLenny> :P
[06:42] <rourick> hi :) how can i add items 2 panel 12.04
[06:42] <ItsMeLenny> maybe it was that usb drive, i'll try this one, and hope, if it was the usb drive i wont be appearing in for a few hours
[06:42] <ItsMeLenny> if it wasnt i'll probably be in in the next 10 minutes
[06:42] <ItsMeLenny> thanks for the help, and thanks lotuspsychje
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> ItsMeLenny: hope you can fix your issue
[06:43] <ItsMeLenny> me too ;) :P
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> ItsMeLenny: normally when you see purple screen setup, usb is fine
[06:43] <ItsMeLenny> yeah, i thought so to, but then it came up with busybox
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> ItsMeLenny: how bout F1 shows any errors?
[06:44] <SaberX01> I suppose it depends on what your using it for, if one is always changing, upgrading and such, doesn't matter much, but if you want a production Image, I think the LTS image is still the best.
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> SaberX01: the 'best' is very relative
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> SaberX01: it all depends what the users wants
[06:45] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, yeah, i just need a newer kernel than 12.04, and considering id upgraded it in the system and other stuff, yet not the overall system, if you know what i mean
[06:45] <ItsMeLenny> lotuspsychje, i'll try F1 if it happens again
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> SaberX01: so in many cases 13.10 will do forfill one needs
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> ItsMeLenny: F1 at purple boot screen
[06:45] <ItsMeLenny> ah
[06:45] <SaberX01> well yes, it is, relative to 12.10 thru 13.10, so yes, relative to what's available.
[06:45] <ItsMeLenny> ;) i'll see
[06:47] <SaberX01> And like I said, it depends on the image purpose, but from a sys-admin standpoint, constant change is not good thing.
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> SaberX01: for many cases lts is a good choice
[06:52] <SaberX01> Outside of testing and development, I don't see a use for a short term support image, but that's from a real production standpoint where stability actually means something. I dont think my CFO would like it if I said, sorry ole boy have to re-image you box today to keep up with the next point release.
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> SaberX01: well, i very liked 13.04 and rocksolid for me
[06:53] <ItsMeLenny> lotuspsychje, no dice
[06:54] <ItsMeLenny> although this time it actually came to the purple screen with writing
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> ItsMeLenny: what happened
[06:54] <ItsMeLenny> i selected install ubuntu
[06:54] <ItsMeLenny> and then it went to busybox
[06:54] <SaberX01> Then there's things like Change Management Compliance and Sarbanes Oxley to contest with.
[06:54] <ItsMeLenny> intramfs
[06:54] <SaberX01> *contend
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> ItsMeLenny: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1241589
[06:56] <ItsMeLenny> lotuspsychje, i was trying to search just now for something like that, i'll have  aread
[06:57] <ItsMeLenny> lotuspsychje, this seems a bit much https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1241589/comments/17
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> ItsMeLenny: what kind of hd inside?
[06:58] <ItsMeLenny> looks like something to do with having multiple hard drives
[06:58] <ItsMeLenny> i have 3
[06:58] <ItsMeLenny> one western digital, 2 seagates
[06:59] <ItsMeLenny> the WD is my system HDD and it's on the gigabyte sata ports
[06:59] <ItsMeLenny> wonder if its something with acpi or what not
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> ItsMeLenny: what you have ide or ahci?
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> ItsMeLenny: maybe try 1 hd only and ubuntu setup again
[07:01] <ItsMeLenny> lotuspsychje, ahci, oh and i also have a cd drive
[07:01] <ItsMeLenny> no floppy tho, i got rid of it
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> ItsMeLenny: one guy from bug did try cd, didnt solve
[07:02] <ItsMeLenny> yeah i think i will try it with just 1 hdd plugged in, which kind of annoys me, but is faster than downloading 13.04 as that would probably take me 2 hours
[07:02] <ItsMeLenny> aussie internet
[07:02] <ItsMeLenny> thanks again, thanks for linking me to that page, i will go try it
[07:02] <ItsMeLenny> cya
[07:04] <shawn1963> Hello All.  Anyone get the "input not supported" error upon boot?
[07:05] <shawn1963> is anyone here
[07:06] <shawn1963> or am I typing in invisible font?
[07:07] <glitsj16> shawn1963: hi, can't say i've seen that boot error
[07:07] <glitsj16> what input device isn't supported ? do you know?
[07:07] <shawn1963> I'm not sure
[07:08] <shawn1963> because it was working just fine
[07:08] <glitsj16> anything less cryptic in boot.log or dmesg?
[07:08] <SaberX01> what HW and which version of Ubuntu may be useful info.
[07:08] <shawn1963> I am dual booted with Windows 8.1 and changed the resolution in WIndows.  Now I get this message on my screen saying "input not supported".
[07:09] <batzy> hi.
[07:09] <shawn1963> I don't get a log on screen.  As soon as I choose Zorin from the boot menu it goes right to black and the message.
[07:09] <shawn1963> sorry can't type that fast/
[07:09] <shawn1963> .
[07:10] <batzy> shawn1963, what's up?
[07:10] <shawn1963> uhmm 13.10 is the base.  Zorin Core 7
[07:10] <SuperLag> What's the proper term for the area on the menu bar that's at the right, where the clock and other icons go? System tray is too Windows-like. :)
[07:11] <shawn1963> I can boot into live from the usb, hence I'm here. System Gadgets (tongue in cheek)
[07:11] <SuperLag> I'm curious to know, if you open up an app that puts an icon there, that has a transparent background on its own, but shows up on the menu bar with a beige background... is that a Unity bug?
[07:12] <batzy> 'too windows like'
[07:12] <batzy> yet i use ubuntu
[07:13] <shawn1963> batzy:  Did you get me description or was it too vague.
[07:13] <SuperLag> batzy: the *term* is what it's called in Windows. "system tray"
[07:13] <batzy> shawn1963, you're saying like
[07:13] <batzy> okay wait
[07:13] <batzy> you changed the windows resolution right?
[07:13] <shawn1963> yep
[07:13] <SuperLag> batzy: So I'm saying I'm guessing that's not what it's called in Ubuntu.
[07:14] <batzy> then you logged on ubuntu and it says not supported?
[07:15] <shawn1963> nope never got to log on.  went right to a little box floating around the monitor that said "input not supported" which I am taking is the resolution is out of whack for Ubuntu.
[07:15] <linuxlite1969> hi
[07:15] <linuxlite1969>  how can i unistall a broken dependency?
[07:16] <shawn1963> And I was saying that I can log in using the LIVE USB, try me feature, hence I'm here.  WIndows IRC sucks. :-P
[07:16] <linuxlite1969> i did everything google is  telling but i cant remove fmit
[07:16] <SaberX01> linuxlite1969, what have you tried thus far, worked failed?
[07:17] <linuxlite1969> force all purge remove auto remove
[07:17] <SuperLag> batzy: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/913175/tomighty_icon.png
[07:18] <batzy> shawn1963, you're on a desktop right? and why type of connection is the monitor?
[07:18] <shawn1963> desktop and VGA
[07:18] <batzy> SuperLag, you mean the panel?
[07:19] <shawn1963> batzy: should I be using the : between me and you?
[07:19] <linuxlite1969> http://pastebin.com/VpMxNCGP <SaberX01> take alook at this bro
[07:19] <batzy> the what?
[07:19] <SuperLag> batzy: yeah. Just forgot what the right thing to call it is. See the left-most icon, how its background does not match the rest of the panel?
[07:20] <batzy> SuperLag, is that the highlight color when it's being selected or hovered over?
[07:20] <batzy> I use xubuntu so idk
[07:20] <batzy> xubuntu and ubuntu server
[07:20] <shawn1963> sorry.  Your typing to me comes up red I was assuming it was because of the colon.
[07:21] <batzy> shawn1963, and you're saying that the same monitor is saying input not supported
[07:21] <SuperLag> batzy: that color persists when I select one of the other icons on the panel.
[07:21] <batzy> wait, when does it give you that message?
[07:21] <SaberX01> linuxlite1969, seems you have an issue getting rid of Qt4 .. not really sure how you'd purge that aside form what you've already tried.
 so how should i get rid of this?
[07:22] <shawn1963> yes thats what I'm saying.  I only have the one monitor.  It works fine when I'm using Ubuntu off the live usb, fine when in windows.  But when I try to boot up in the installed Ubuntu from the boot menu I get the "message".
[07:23] <SaberX01> linuxlite1969, I don't know  actually.
 anyway thanks
[07:24] <batzy> shawn1963, okay when you boot into ubuntu, right after the bios boots press the down arrow key and then enter. A menu should appear, I want you to boot into 'run in safe graphics mode'
[07:24] <shawn1963> ok I can get to that.  Thats on my boot menu already.
[07:25] <batzy> yeah do that
[07:26] <katinthehat> #names ubuntu
[07:26] <shawn1963> I get a menu that gives me "clean""Dpkg" boot to safe graphics" mode, etc.  I get the "message" even when I use the " safe" mode.  I've tried enabling networking and then dpkg but nothing worked.
[07:26] <katinthehat> (sorry guys, I'm new to IRC and exploring)
[07:26] <batzy> so boot into safe graphics mode gives you the same error/
[07:27] <shawn1963> yep
[07:27] <shawn1963> can I change the resolution from a prompt?
[07:27] <shawn1963> I have the option to drop to root.
[07:27] <batzy> yes you can
[07:28] <shawn1963> have pen will write unless it would be easier if its a lot of code to send me an email?
[07:31] <linuxlite1969>  how can i unistall a broken dependency?
[07:32] <linuxlite1969> i did everything google is  telling but i cant remove fmit
[07:32] <batzy> shawn1963, sec
[07:32] <batzy> shawn1963, gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[07:32] <shawn1963> no probs.  I appreciate the help
[07:32] <batzy> tell me what it says
[07:34] <batzy> or shawn1963 better yet
[07:34] <batzy> pastebinit -i /etc/default/grub sorry it's late im not fully functional
[07:35] <SaberX01> linuxlite1969, Only thing I can suggest is, forcing the purge:  sudo dpkg --purge --force-all <package>
[07:35] <shawn1963> hang on a sec
[07:35] <linuxlite1969> what does it do anyway? SaberX01
[07:36] <XATRIX> Hi, SaberX01 yesterday told me not to use directly root acctount
[07:37] <XATRIX> Can i use at least sudo -s, as for the permanent root environment , during the server initial setup
[07:37] <SaberX01> XATRIX, Yep, I'll tell you the same thing today too, using the root account is nto wise.
[07:37] <SaberX01> XATRIX, It'd your box, use it anyway you wish.
[07:37] <SaberX01> *It's
[07:39] <SaberX01> It's makes no sense to install a sudo based Linux distro, only to try and run it as a root base, why not just use Centos, Slack or whatever other root based system.
[07:39] <shawn1963> http://pastebin.com/jK87ZLTa
[07:39] <shawn1963> sorry had to sign in.
[07:40] <XATRIX> SaberX01: just to save my time and verves for initial setup
[07:40] <shawn1963> batzy, I sent the link to you.  How do I send it directly to you so?
[07:41] <XATRIX> Later on, i'll use sudo as i should
[07:41] <SaberX01> Have fun
[07:41] <shawn1963> batzy, when I use the "tab" key does my message show in red on your end?
[07:41] <batzy> shawn1963, i got it sec
[07:41] <shawn1963> k
[07:41] <batzy> shawn1963, just when you type my nick it does
[07:42] <shawn1963> batzy, k
[07:42] <batzy> okay shawn1963 type that command i gave you before, the gedit one
[07:42] <batzy> where it says #GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480
[07:42] <batzy> take out the # and save it
[07:43] <batzy> or shawn1963 sudo nano /etc/default/grub actually cuz you have no GUI
[07:44] <shawn1963> batzy, ok I'm a bit confused.  should I enable the 640x480 line or should I type in the terminal the command you just gave me?
[07:45] <batzy> if you type the command i just gave you
[07:45] <batzy> and get rid of the hash
[07:45] <batzy> the command i just gave you is an editor so you can remove the hash
[07:45] <linuxlite1969> dpkg: warning: there's no installed package matching fmit <SaberX01>
[07:46] <shawn1963> batz
[07:47] <batzy> yeah?
[07:47] <shawn1963> batzy, gotcha.  It works both ways.
[07:47] <batzy> okay yeah
[07:47] <batzy> then do
[07:47] <SaberX01> linuxlite1969, sckip it and go tot he next package you want to remove ..
[07:47] <batzy> sudo update-gru
[07:47] <batzy> sudo update-grub
[07:47] <SaberX01> skip
[07:48] <shawn1963> the hash is gone. ..k ..it gave me a "cow" error.
[07:48] <shawn1963> batzy, /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of /cow.
[07:48] <batzy> when you try to update?
[07:49] <shawn1963> I'm at a live prompt so I am not at a "root".
[07:49] <shawn1963> grrr
[07:49] <batzy> can you su root?
[07:50] <shawn1963> I can but there is no "user" as I am running off a LiveUSB in "trial" mode.  Only way for me to get here to IRC land.
[07:51] <linuxlite1969> ?technically its a dependency not a package,will it still work> <SaberX01>
[07:52] <XATRIX> SaberX01: seems like i do something wrong
[07:52] <batzy> Oh..
[07:53] <XATRIX> But i have 50 minutes installed system. It's a brand new one. And:
[07:53] <XATRIX> xatrix@vox1-ua:~$ sudo service networking restart
[07:53] <XATRIX> stop: Unknown instance:
[07:53] <XATRIX> networking stop/waiting
[07:53] <batzy> okay well shawn1963 did you change the file of the live session or of your disk?
[07:53] <XATRIX> I added only definition to /etc/network/interfaces
[07:53] <XATRIX> for eth0
[07:53] <shawn1963> batzy, the live system.
[07:53] <SaberX01> linuxlite1969, yes, I think, a dep is also a package in it's own right.
[07:54] <batzy> shawn1963, well that's not going to do much, do you mind if I query you to fix this then?
[07:54] <XATRIX> SaberX01: http://ur1.ca/g97xk
[07:54] <XATRIX> What's wrong with it ?
[07:54] <shawn1963> batzy, but I wrote down what you told me and will try it from the "real" system.  What do you me by query?
[07:55] <shawn1963> you mean like remote?
[07:55] <XATRIX> I don't understand what's wrong with it, i even removed interface settings added by me
[07:55] <XATRIX> Still the same crap
[07:55] <XATRIX> I think i have to move from LTS -> 13.
[07:56] <aleksejs_> I don't remember exactly who recomended Deluge for me yesterday, but http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpsJqZkCHAk
[07:57] <shawn1963> batzy, does query mean remote?  I could try this on the disk side and then come back.
[07:59] <batzy> that goof ball
[08:00] <XATRIX> xatrix@vox1-ua:~$ sudo service networking restart
[08:00] <XATRIX> stop: Unknown instance:
[08:00] <XATRIX> networking stop/waiting
[08:00] <XATRIX> What can i do to fix this ?
[08:00] <batzy> bloody impatient
[08:01] <XATRIX> xatrix@vox1-ua:~$ sudo service networking stop
[08:01] <XATRIX> stop: Unknown instance:
[08:04] <XATRIX> Why it says me interface is not configured :((((
[08:04] <XATRIX> http://fpaste.org/64267/13879586/
[08:04] <XATRIX> That's sensless
[08:07] <batzy> guess shawn just left.
[08:09] <XATRIX> I've found the trouble
[08:09] <XATRIX> My initial /etc/hosts string was
[08:09] <XATRIX> 176.111.63.124  vox1-ua.letvox.com vox1-ua
[08:09] <XATRIX> my server named as vox1-ua
[08:10] <XATRIX> But i don't want it to resolves to WAN ip
[08:10] <XATRIX> i need eth0 10.0.0.1
[08:10] <XATRIX> as vox1-ua
[08:10] <XATRIX> and 10.0.0.2 as vox2-ua
[08:10] <XATRIX> I changed it to :
[08:10] <XATRIX> 10.0.0.1        vox1-ua
[08:10] <XATRIX> 10.0.0.2        vox2-ua
[08:10] <XATRIX> 176.111.63.124  vox1-ua.letvox.com vox1-ua
[08:10] <FloodBot1> XATRIX: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:10] <XATRIX> And now i have problems with start/stop scripts
[08:11] <XATRIX> Unbelivable!!!
[08:12] <XATRIX> Negative, the same thing happens again :9
[08:19] <l00pback> hey guys i'm in need of some help
[08:20] <batzy> Whatchya need kid
[08:21] <l00pback> I have a 2TB hard drive(External) and it's showing I go to format it, it gives me the error "Input/Output error during read on /dev/sdb
[08:21] <l00pback> hold on
[08:22] <l00pback> GParted is showing me that the drive is unnallocated
[08:22] <l00pback> unallocated* and when i go to format it Gparted shows me that error
[08:22] <l00pback> please help me
[08:32] <AlecTaylor> hi
[08:33] <AlecTaylor> Debugging apt-get errors; found that my /tmp directory was missing. I recreated it, what should I change permissions to? "drwxr-xr-x   2 root root   4096 Dec 25 19:30 tmp"
[08:35] <batzy> hey shawn1963
[08:35] <shawn1963> batzy, hey there sorry about that.
[08:35] <Fudus> drwxrwxrwt   9 root root  20K Dec 25 16:33 tmp/
[08:35] <batzy> you didn't need to go onto the other box btw
[08:35] <batzy> did you fix it?
[08:35] <shawn1963> batzy, yea the cheating way.  I just reinstalled it hehe.
[08:36] <shawn1963> I tried to get to the nano from the root prompt but it kept saying that the grub was read-only.
[08:36] <shawn1963> grrr
[08:36] <batzy> yeah...i could've fixed it for ya
[08:36] <batzy> but w/e glad you got it working
[08:37] <shawn1963> You said something about query.  Is that like using remote?
[08:37] <batzy> i just queried you
[08:39] <shawn1963> batzy, hell if this had been windows I would have been here all night.  in this case it was less than 10 minutes.
[08:39] <batzy> well you reinstalled the entire os for no reason..
[08:39] <batzy> but whatever
[08:40] <shawn1963> I'm getting tired too. :-(
[08:40] <shawn1963> Its almost 2am here.
[08:40] <batzy> im staying up all night lol
[08:40] <batzy> it's almost 4 am here
[08:40] <shawn1963> lol
[08:40] <batzy> i plan on waking up my family playing carol of the bells max volume on electric guitar at 7
[08:41] <shawn1963> dang.  NOW that is funny lol
[08:42] <elky> it's also offtopic. go keep #ubuntu-offtopic entertained :P
[08:46] <shawn1963> batzy, I gotta hit the hey.  I am tired for an old man.  Just think if I stay up any later I'll be pushing up daisies.
[08:46] <shawn1963> hay
[08:55] <yahyaa> is anyone here familiar with monodevelop?
[08:56] <bel3atar> layhdimakhla9
[08:58] <ItsMeLenny> holy moly, i have never experienced more problems with ubuntu than i have right now with installing 13.10
[08:59] <ItsMeLenny> who was i talking to earlier
[09:01] <ItsMeLenny> im going to get 13.04 right now and hope that its better
[09:01] <ItsMeLenny> because hoooleeee craap
[09:01] <dipak> ItsMeLenny: what kind of problems?
[09:02] <ItsMeLenny> dipak, random reboots, mass amount of errors, every program hangs and freezes every 2nd time
[09:03] <ItsMeLenny> had to do updates from terminal because synaptic was borked, which it updated the kernel which the latest one just broke everything
[09:03] <ItsMeLenny> it feels just in general unstable and very unresponsive
[09:04] <SaberX01> Somebody told me earlier, 13.10 was good to go :-) ... does not seem so in the case now does it.
[09:04] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, it is incredibly painful
[09:05] <dipak> 13.10 is very good i can say it's even better than before
[09:05] <ItsMeLenny> it was actually less painful using my computer before the reinstall when no desktop would show
[09:05] <ItsMeLenny> dipak, troll in the dungeons
[09:05] <SaberX01> I'm a firm believer in LTS to LTS for production, play around with the in between stuff, but that's it.
[09:06] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, me too, its just that i borked everything and need a later kernel, but on that note, im probably better off just doing a fresh 12.04 install, i might do that actually instead of 13.04
[09:06] <ItsMeLenny> and then just update the kernel sanders
[09:07] <bel3atar> ItsMeLenny: what version are you running? Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 [x86_64/1.00GHz/SMP]
[09:07] <ItsMeLenny> bel3atar, now or before?
[09:07] <SaberX01> All my boxes are on 12.04.3 ..I have several Vbox 13.xx installs, but nothing on real hardware.
[09:08] <ItsMeLenny> before i was on 12.04 while running like raring or quantel kernel, amd64 also 3.2Ghz
[09:09] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, yeah i just got 12.04.3 iso earlier so i'll use it, do you usually use live or alternate to install?
[09:09] <dipak> ItsMeLenny: no it's not a lie i am currently using it for nearly 1 month and there is not a single problem in it except for some minor bugs. May be you are the troll
[09:09] <SaberX01> Most of the time, the server install CD then add Desktop to it.
[09:09] <ItsMeLenny> dipak, out of curiosity are you on 32bit or 64bit
[09:10] <ItsMeLenny> because my dad does use 32bit 13.10 and it works fairly well
[09:10] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, ahh
[09:11] <SaberX01> It's still done during install, toward the end, I add OpenSSH, and usualyl grab a desktop of choice then.
[09:11] <dipak> ItsMeLenny: 64-bit
[09:11] <ItsMeLenny> odd
[09:11] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, ah, i see what you're saying
[09:12] <ItsMeLenny> ubuntu is making me angry
[09:12] <batzy> y
[09:12] <batzy> how
[09:12] <SaberX01> I just have less troubles with svr CD's ... I even have a little Via C7 HP mini running apache and it's my Ubuntu Mirror box.
[09:12] <ItsMeLenny> by not working
[09:13] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, yeah
[09:14] <ItsMeLenny> this kind of annoyance makes me want to switch to bsd
[09:15] <bekks> ItsMeLenny: Do you have a specific support question?
[09:16] <ItsMeLenny> bekks, why doesnt ubuntu 13.10 work
[09:16] <SaberX01> I have a BSD , Slack and CentOS Vbox , but mostly all Ubuntu for production stuff
[09:16] <ItsMeLenny> now the startup disk creator keeps crashing
[09:16] <ItsMeLenny> how am i going to make a usb stick now
[09:16] <SaberX01> Unetbootin
[09:16] <batzy> I use ubuntu because of software.
[09:17] <batzy> I used to use Arch, Gentoo, and FreeBSD a lot
[09:17] <bekks> !doesntwork
[09:17] <bekks> ItsMeLenny: Do you have a specific support question, with full details?
[09:17] <SaberX01> rr batzy I built a Gentoo box, that thing was fast, vry fast.
[09:18] <bekks> !usb | ItsMeLenny
[09:19] <batzy> SaberX01, meh
[09:19] <ItsMeLenny> stop ubottu i know how to do it, its the fact that your ubuntu ways are broken, your usb creator does not work
[09:19] <batzy> I didn't notice any speed payoff with it when I was using it on a newer machine
[09:20] <bekks> ItsMeLenny: Ah, I see you dont want help actually, but continue to rant. If you continue, I dont see any reason in any effort to help you.
[09:20] <bekks> batzy: It wont be faster, using 32bit on 64bit CPU is just wasting resources. :)
[09:21] <ItsMeLenny> bekks, is bot
[09:21] <batzy> I know, i was saying that to SaberX01
[09:21] <bekks> ItsMeLenny: ubottu is a bot which can be triggered to tell you and other usefull information.
[09:22] <ItsMeLenny> bekks, its not useful when it doesnt work, im doing it the ubuntu way
[09:22] <SaberX01> I use very few applications that can take advantage of 64 bit or large volumes of ram
[09:22] <ItsMeLenny> ive been on ubuntu since 8.04
[09:22] <ItsMeLenny> or 8.02 whatever it was at the time
[09:23] <SaberX01> I install 64bit on any box that I can, but, it's a waste really, as I really dont need it.
[09:23] <bekks> ItsMeLenny: "doesnt work" is a totally useless term when it comes to "what going on, how can we help you". If you wantto continue ranting, do it, but elsewhere. Or ask a specific question about what isnt working, throwing which error messages instead doing of what exactly, on which ubuntu version specifically.
[09:24] <SaberX01> I started in Ubuntu in the 5.x Days
[09:24] <SaberX01> Was using mostly Slack before that.
[09:24] <gordonjcp> SaberX01: likewise
[09:24] <bekks> SaberX01: not using the resources your computers have is wasting resources. As long as your CPU is 64bit, you should use 64bit.
[09:24] <ItsMeLenny> bekks, you're ranting, i didnt rant at all, ive already stated the problems
[09:24] <bekks> ItsMeLenny: "doesnt work", "making me angry". Whatever.
[09:25] <gordonjcp> ItsMeLenny: re making a bootable USB stick, just dd the image onto a USB drive
[09:25] <gordonjcp> ItsMeLenny: forget all this unetbootin stuff, it's a waste of time
[09:26] <SaberX01> bekks, I'd venture to say, that most Desktop users, not workstations, are way over spec for the job, they need allot of GPU power adn NIC speed, and most use very little CPU adn maybe 1 to 1.5 GB of RAM on average.
[09:27] <gordonjcp> SaberX01: a few years ago, they would have used very little GPU power and lots of CPU power and RAM
[09:27] <gordonjcp> SaberX01: in a few years time we'll be back round to that again
[09:27] <ItsMeLenny> gordonjcp, yeah i dd'd for ubuntu 13.10 and it didnt work, im dd'ing now for 12.04, i'll see if it will boot tho
[09:27] <SaberX01> I mean really, how fast does my Desktop need to be to run a Presentation or write a document.
[09:27] <gordonjcp> ItsMeLenny: "didn't work" how exactly?
[09:27] <bekks> SaberX01: Whatever they need, is out of question. The point is which specs the computer have. And if thats 64bit, then use a 64bit OS.
[09:28] <ItsMeLenny> gordonjcp, it dd'd across everything, but when it came to boot from it it wasn't recognised, which is bizarre because ive done it mass amounts of times before
[09:28] <SaberX01> Thats what I said earlier, if it's 64bit capable, we install 64bit versions.
[09:28] <SaberX01> but it's still a waste of resources.
[09:29] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, i have 64bit on my netbook which only has 1gb of ram
[09:29] <gordonjcp> ItsMeLenny: I'd be wondering if maybe that USB drive is dodgy
[09:29] <ItsMeLenny> gordonjcp, yeah it's being recognised, it was really bizarre that it wasnt recognised when it had 13.10 on it, also for 13.10 i had to unplug my 2 internal HDD's to actually get it to get past busybox
[09:29] <SaberX01> My little HP mini, the Via C7.. that's about all I have round here that's not 64bit.
[09:30] <gordonjcp> ItsMeLenny: when you say "wasn't recognised" what exactly do you mean?
[09:30]  * gordonjcp has a bunch of 32-bit hardware, not all of it x86-based
[09:30] <bekks> SaberX01: It isnt. Why should it? Why would you run DOS when having just 512M - because it is a waste of resources? Install what is able to use most of the resources or you are just wasting resources.
[09:30] <ItsMeLenny> gordonjcp, in the bios, when its recognised every other time
[09:30] <SaberX01> I have one Q6 server that I intentionally put 32bit on .. it's a BU server.
[09:30] <ItsMeLenny> its something with 13.10
[09:30] <gordonjcp> ItsMeLenny: whatever is on the stick ought not to make a difference to the BIOS
[09:30] <gordonjcp> ItsMeLenny: it can't possibly be 13.10
[09:30] <bekks> SaberX01: The last time I installed 32bit on a server wasa a decade ago.
[09:31] <ItsMeLenny> hmm, except now i saw the purple screen but its not launching anything
[09:31] <gordonjcp> ItsMeLenny: that might sit for a while, is there an activity light on the USB stick?
[09:31] <ItsMeLenny> gordonjcp, 13.10 when i finally got it to boot off the stick i had to unplug 2 of my hard drives for it to work properly, i think theres something unconventiional in it
[09:31] <ItsMeLenny> no activity. this hasnt happened before
[09:32] <SaberX01> bekks, when you have to decide what resources you budgets can handles, 2 techs or a high spec box for 100+ IT folk, ya start looking at real utilization rather that pie in the sky stuff.
[09:32] <ItsMeLenny> hard reboot
[09:32] <gordonjcp> ItsMeLenny: no
[09:33] <ItsMeLenny> gordonjcp, hard reboot fixed it, or at least it got further
[09:33] <Roccat> anyone know which channel would be good for RAID issues?
[09:33] <SaberX01> Personally, I'd rather have more human resources and less hardware resources.
[09:33] <ItsMeLenny> gordonjcp, should i have dd'd with a bs because i didnt include one
[09:33] <bekks> SaberX01: The difference in the pricing between 32bit and 64bit is nearly 0. If you just have 32bit HW, it is obviously that you cant use 64bit - which isnt a pricing question but just "is the computer able of running 64bit or no?"
[09:33] <ItsMeLenny> oh, black screen but is responsive
[09:33] <ItsMeLenny> timeout killing modprobe
[09:33] <Roccat> When booting I get: Invalid Partition Table
[09:34] <bekks> SaberX01: but I think this is getting even more offtopic in here ;)
[09:34] <ItsMeLenny> frozen, hard reboot
[09:34] <Roccat> This is on a 6 drive RAID enabled IBM 236
[09:34] <ItsMeLenny> i'll re-dd with a bs=4
[09:34] <bekks> bs=4 is pretty insane, it will write four bytes at a time.
[09:35] <Roccat> Anyone here with experience in IBM Raid setup/problems?
[09:35] <bekks> Roccat: Is that a new setup?
[09:35] <Roccat> no no, it crashed in the middle of the night.
[09:35] <ItsMeLenny> ah damn, forgot to switch the kernel, the new kernel doesnt work either
[09:35] <Roccat> Drive 0 was set to defunct.
[09:35] <Roccat> setup is as follows: 3 drives on logical, 3 drives on hot swap
[09:35] <bekks> Roccat: So hopefully you have a full backup?
[09:36] <SaberX01> bekks, agreed, but when you spec HW for engineering, MFG, IT and general use, excluding the CPU of course, RAM, HD all that plays into it .. Servers are a whole diff kettle of fish .. and yes, we gone way OT here :-)
[09:36] <Roccat> bekks, yes have a Netapp box
[09:36] <ItsMeLenny> how does one pop up grub
[09:36] <ItsMeLenny> without having to reboot in startup
[09:36] <bekks> Roccat: Three single drives? and Three hot spares? Or some kind of RAID using an incredible waste of hotspares?
[09:37] <Roccat> bekks, something like that.
[09:37] <Roccat> bekks, replaced RAID controller, updated RAID bios to 7.12
[09:37] <bekks> Roccat: "Something"? Which RAID level exactly do you use?
[09:37] <Roccat> Raid 5
[09:37] <bekks> Roccat: So you are using a RAID5 on three disks with the waste of three hotspares?
[09:38] <SaberX01> Only really need one spare I'd think, add the other two drives into the array.
[09:39] <Roccat> SaberX01, ok will do.
[09:39] <bekks> Some RAID1/0 oin 6 disks would have been more sensible in terms of speed.
[09:39] <bekks> Roccat: Do you mind to asnwer my question?
[09:39] <Roccat> SaberX01, the server is 6 years old
[09:40] <SaberX01> If your having high failure rates, a larger array can keep you up and running v.s. the 3 drive approach.
[09:40] <Roccat> strange thing, when I did replace drive 1, the one which was flagged as defunt, it started a copy back, when I returned this morning, drive 0 was defunct.
[09:41] <bekks> If you are having high failure rates, you should eliminate the faulty hardware.
[09:41] <SaberX01> Roccat, all the more reason to spread the risk over a larger volume .. at least from an operational point of view.
[09:41] <Roccat> SaberX01, you think its possible I lost the partition entirely?
[09:41] <bekks> Roccat: you data is gone then: this happened: one drive failed, while rebuilding a second drive failed. Data lost.
[09:42] <toil> In Screen(GNU), I've somehow linked a single 'window' within 2 different screen sessions. Any idea how I've done that? lol
[09:42] <SaberX01> Well anything is possible, but loosing a whole partition in a RAID array, you dont run accros that often, or at least I ahven't.
[09:42] <Roccat> SaberX01, yea, sucks.
[09:43] <bekks> SaberX01: It happens very often if you use cheap desktop drives and put them under high I/O rates in 24/7.
[09:43] <Roccat> IBM drives, but yea, weird to have 2 drives fail right in sequence
[09:43] <bekks> It even happens regularly when using SATA drives in a high I/O environment.
[09:43] <Roccat> wasn't a high I/O environment.
[09:43] <bekks> Roccat: 6 year old drives. Get 6 new ones, build a new array.
[09:44] <SaberX01> Out arrays are very expensive .. I doubt we have 1HD failure a month if that.
[09:44] <bekks> SaberX01: How many arrays are you responsible for? ;)
[09:45] <SaberX01> How many arrays ? god only knows, ... at least 400-500 physical single drives .. and thats not anythign to do wiht our computational clusters.
[09:46] <bekks> SaberX01: so that breaks down to about 100 arrays when using stock R5 arrays. thats pretty low-scale ;)
[09:47] <bekks> And again - we are getting offtopic. Sorry, I wont do that again :/
[09:47] <SaberX01> That one data center, we have them all over the world.
[09:47] <q_a_z_steve_> How do I find out the dependencies and pull them for offline use? I know I dabbled in all this once, but I'm super rusty.
[09:47] <SaberX01> EU, JA, SG, TW, CH, GbH, UK, FR<, IS,  .. nothign in S. America or Africa though, at least that I know of.
[09:48] <q_a_z_steve_> I need libssl-dev apparently.
[09:48] <ItsMeLenny> it's really laggy when i drag window frames
[09:50] <hitsujiTMO> q_a_z_steve: apt-cache show packagename       ....   this will give you the info for a package, including dependencies
[09:50] <q_a_z_steve> down the rabbit hole it is.
[09:51] <hitsujiTMO> q_a_z_steve: you could set up a minimal debootstrap chroot env for pulling the exact dependencies to that chroots apt-cache
[09:52] <bekks> q_a_z_steve: http://askubuntu.com/questions/306971/install-package-with-dependencies-offline
[09:52] <XATRIX> f...ck this LTS, i'm gonna install 13 server
[09:52] <bekks> !language | XATRIX
[09:52] <SaberX01> q_a_z_steve, you can use the download flags, use apt-offline all kinds of methods.
[09:52] <XATRIX> sorry
[09:54] <ItsMeLenny> gaaarhhhh now ubuntu 13.10 just locked up again
[09:54] <XATRIX> )
[09:54] <ItsMeLenny> why is hat
[09:54] <SaberX01> XATRIX, smooth sailing playing with  root still ?
[09:54] <thom_r> what happened?
[09:54] <XATRIX> SaberX01: NO!!! i didn't
[09:54] <XATRIX> But i have still the same failures
[09:55] <q_a_z_steve> hitsujiTMO: time wise, how long do you think that would take?
[09:55] <XATRIX> I've reinstalled it completely, and used only sudo
[09:55] <XATRIX> sudo networking restart (start/stop) - gives an error
[09:55] <XATRIX> And some other upstart scripts do
[09:55] <SaberX01> XATRIX, well I know your hardware, but, with the 12.04 server CD's and pre-seed, it's a very quick install here.
[09:55] <ItsMeLenny> im dieing here
[09:55] <SaberX01> I dont know your hardware ... ..
[09:56] <thom_r> It'sMeLenny: what happened
[09:56] <ItsMeLenny> thom_r, was just clicking in the settings menu and it froze completely
[09:56] <ItsMeLenny> unresponsive to everything
[09:56] <ItsMeLenny> and it's not the first time it's happened today
[09:57] <XATRIX> SaberX01: TYAN GT20 B5502 / Intel Xeon X3450 , Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset 6 port SATA AHCI Controller
[09:57] <ItsMeLenny> now it just froze in booting ubuntu
[09:57] <thom_r> how long have you had it installed?
[09:57] <q_a_z_steve> Why is my 13.10 not loading the windows and things right? I'm on a 686...
[09:57] <ItsMeLenny> thom_r, fresh install today
[09:57] <XATRIX> I have another server with a bit different HW, the same happens again
[09:57] <XATRIX> I'm gonna install 13
[09:57] <XATRIX> I don't wanna fight bugs
[09:57] <thom_r> ItsMeLenny: probably a bad install, try re-installing
[09:58] <SaberX01> XATRIX, that shouldn't be a problem, I've not used that Model TYAN .. but use allot of TYAN MB's, but we only use Intel Fibre NICS.
[09:58] <ItsMeLenny> thom_r, im going back to 12.04, thats if 13.10 can stay uncrashed for long enough to write a usb stick
[09:58] <XATRIX> I need to finish my servers before the weekend comes
[09:58] <thom_r> I've not had any problems in 13.10, using it right now
[09:58] <VanessaE> Hi.  I am trying to sort out a problem with suspend.  Sometimes when my machine goes down, I think it is actually shutting the power off as if it's being told to *hibernate*, even though I've ordered it to *suspend* as the power light actually goes off instead of steady pulsing.  is there any way to tell for sure?
[09:58] <XATRIX> SaberX01: It's not a NIC/driver problems, it's something wrong with the upstart scripts
[09:58] <XATRIX> Or so
[09:58] <ItsMeLenny> thom_r, only upgraded because i completely broke 12.04 after having it installed for a year
[09:58] <VanessaE> seems to be about every other attempt.
[09:59] <VanessaE> (12.04 here, happens with 13.10 also)
[09:59] <SaberX01> XATRIX, Have you tried a simple DHCP only setup ..
[09:59] <XATRIX> No, i have no DHCP in my DC
[09:59] <XATRIX> Only dedicated IPs
[09:59] <ItsMeLenny> whats a good bite size to dd ubuntu onto usb
[10:00] <XATRIX> And i bet it's not a network failure
[10:00] <XATRIX> Or hardware
[10:00] <SaberX01> XATRIX, that's a bummer, no way to tell if it's HW or your SW config.
[10:00] <XATRIX> It's a scripts problem
[10:00] <thom_r> ItsMeLenny: did you update using a usb/dvd?
[10:00] <q_a_z_steve> what's the key combo to restart the guy stuff?
[10:00] <q_a_z_steve> GUI
[10:00] <ItsMeLenny> thom_r, usb, but didnt update, fresh install
[10:00] <thom_r> ah, understood
[10:00] <XATRIX> I can up/down ifaces using sudo /etc/init.d/network-interface stop INTERFACE=eth0
[10:00] <SaberX01> XATRIX, what version UB are you installing?
[10:00] <XATRIX> 12.04.3 LTS
[10:01] <raistlinthewiz> hey there, a question, is there an upstart/supervisord alternative that can also monitor a network port and it it can't access it, restart the process?
[10:01] <XATRIX> I'm currently installing 13
[10:01] <XATRIX> Also, as i said before i have multiple scripts failing, not only networking
[10:01] <VanessaE> I have tried googling for this but I've come up totally empty.
[10:01] <Zahy> Hello
[10:01] <SaberX01> XATRIX, I think I have 1 maybe 2 13.xx VM servers,  so Im not much help there.
[10:02] <ItsMeLenny> thom_r, and the thing is, i have never had these problems with any other ubuntu install, thats where my frustrations stem from
[10:02] <Zahy> Can anyone explain to me why whenever I have Ubuntu installed, the charging LED doesn
[10:02] <Zahy> tdoesn't display the proper color
[10:02] <Zahy> The laptop charges just fine, but the LED stays lit as if it were fully charged
[10:02] <ItsMeLenny> Zahy, i have the same thing with my mute button, glows orange instead of blue, its due to drivers
[10:03] <Zahy> ahh, so its just something I
[10:03] <ItsMeLenny> or probably due to drivers, as in drivers not being written for them
[10:03] <Zahy> I'll have to deal with
[10:03] <ItsMeLenny> Zahy, yeah :P
[10:03] <SaberX01> XATRIX, I dont know why your having multiple init.d / upstart scripts failing, that's very suspect in of itself.
[10:03] <Zahy> Does anyone else's laptop boot up with brightness set to 0? lol
[10:03] <ItsMeLenny> Zahy, loool not mine, but i do have sound issues, it farts all the time
[10:04] <Zahy> I have no sound issues here
[10:04] <Zahy> Got a Lenovo U530
[10:04] <Zahy> wiped windows 8 and did a full ubuntu install
[10:04] <bekks> XATRIX: First, fix networking then.
[10:04] <XATRIX> reinstalling
[10:04] <Zahy> I just really want to fix this brightness issue
[10:04] <Zahy> It's annoying having to adjust the brightness everytime this thing boots up
[10:05] <ItsMeLenny> Zahy, ive got an HP netbook, also the touch pad is terirble, the buttons are built into it so right click relies on two fingers being detected, which #! linux doesnt suport
[10:05] <SaberX01> XATRIX, just as an additional check, you should MD5 the ISO CD  make sure you dont have troubles there.
[10:05] <ItsMeLenny> 12.04.3 install is a-happenin!
[10:06] <tero> Any ideas why skype is turning off by itself?
[10:06] <ItsMeLenny> tero, i'd try grabbing the deb from the skype site and reinstalling it
[10:06] <ItsMeLenny> as bad as their updates are they do sometimes fix stuff
[10:06] <bekks> !skype | tero
[10:08] <ItsMeLenny> ekiga >____< does anybody actually use that?
[10:09] <JoakimL> join agocontrol-devel
[10:09] <JoakimL> join #agocontrol-devel
[10:09] <ItsMeLenny> JoakimL, are you telling us to, or are you trying to?
[10:09] <SaberX01> :-)
[10:10] <ItsMeLenny> nooooo my installer crashed, now i will have no operating system?!?
[10:10] <SaberX01> looks like two failed attempted to me :-)
[10:10] <ItsMeLenny> oh, lucky for me it booted into live more
[10:10] <ItsMeLenny> mode
[10:10] <ItsMeLenny> not having a good itime here
[10:10] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, what ISO you using?
[10:11] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, 12.04.3
[10:11] <SaberX01> LiveCD ?
[10:11] <ItsMeLenny> yeah
[10:11] <ItsMeLenny> 64bit
[10:11] <ItsMeLenny> do you think thats the problem, or do you think it was my flash drive
[10:12] <ItsMeLenny> it said it couldnt read some files
[10:12] <bekks> ItsMeLenny: Sounds like a broken flashdrive.
[10:12] <SaberX01> I know allot of folks sware by the LiveCD, but, I use the server (or what used to eb the alt-cd) and install whatever DE, I rarely have issues at install.
[10:13] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, yeah i used to be an alternate cd user, then in the end i was just like eh
[10:13] <ItsMeLenny> i think it was the flash drive
[10:14] <ItsMeLenny> do usb drives not get mounted in livecdmode?
[10:14] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, It could be, I pretty much waste as disk on ever ISO I use. I've used USB Keys before for testing,  but normally actual CD.
[10:14] <SaberX01> Make sure you MD5 the Image before setting up the USB Key.
[10:15] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, yeah i checked the md5
[10:15] <SaberX01> Least you know that part is good them.
[10:15] <SaberX01> *then
[10:15] <ItsMeLenny> my other usb stick wont mount now, how odd
[10:15] <ItsMeLenny> yeah
[10:15] <ItsMeLenny> maybe i might put it onto an SD card :P
[10:15] <SaberX01> Trying buring a CD, moderate to slow speed burn, and run it that way.
[10:16] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, yeah, and not using brasero, that program never works
[10:17] <SaberX01> Yeah, use whatever ya like, but slow burn, on CD then try the install.
[10:17] <ItsMeLenny> i'll try this sd card first
[10:17] <ItsMeLenny> im feeling lucky with it
[10:18] <ItsMeLenny> noooo now my computer froze?
[10:18] <ItsMeLenny> wtf is going on :(:(:(
[10:18] <ItsMeLenny> something must be sucking extra power in the house
[10:19] <SaberX01> maybe the root casue is the ROM drive ??
[10:19] <ItsMeLenny> but that was running off the usb
[10:19] <ItsMeLenny> oh i know what it would be!
[10:19] <ItsMeLenny> the christmas tree lights
[10:19] <SaberX01> Oh, ok, well that points back to the USB Key then ey
[10:19] <ItsMeLenny> no joke
[10:20] <ddoom_> I installed a usb 3.0 pcie addon card, but am only getting 30MB/s write speed capped. Is there anything I can look at to make it go faster?
[10:20] <ItsMeLenny> but before it froze from running off the HDD
[10:20] <bekks> ddoom_: Do you use an USB3 device, too?
[10:20] <ItsMeLenny> ddoom_, what do you have plugged into the usb3 port
[10:20] <ItsMeLenny> lol
[10:20] <SaberX01> I have a 300amp main service in our house, we dont get pwr lags :)
[10:20] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, our house i rekon got ripped off with the wiring in the 90s
[10:21] <ItsMeLenny> when there was an extra fridge plugged in my computer couldnt boot
[10:21] <ddoom_> bekks, ItsMeLenny : Yes SanDisk Extreme® USB 3.0 Flash Drive to be exact
[10:21] <ItsMeLenny> ddoom_, might just be a slow flash drive, do you have a speed test program
[10:21] <SaberX01> Need a Java .. be back in a few
[10:22] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, and the thing with the christmas lights we have, theyre super old, so they dont run off a 12volt pack or what not
[10:22] <bekks> ddoom_: which driver is that addon card using? Pastebin lsb_release -a; uname -a; lspci -k please
[10:22] <ItsMeLenny> they run off full 240volt
[10:22] <ddoom_> ItsMeLenny: I've tested in windows at roughly 100MB/s
[10:22] <XATRIX> SaberX01: 13 ubuntu server  runs pretty smooth
[10:22] <XATRIX> xatrix@vox1-ua:~$ sudo service networking restart
[10:22] <XATRIX> [sudo] password for xatrix:
[10:22] <XATRIX> networking stop/waiting
[10:22] <XATRIX> networking start/running
[10:22] <FloodBot1> XATRIX: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:22] <ItsMeLenny> ddoom_, oh
[10:22] <bekks> XATRIX: PAstebin your networking configuration please.
[10:24] <XATRIX> bekks: http://ur1.ca/g98p8
[10:24] <ddoom_> bekks: http://pastebin.com/2WXQ1g1P
[10:25] <PebkacJones> hello
[10:26] <thom_r> hello
[10:26] <PebkacJones> hi thom_r
[10:26] <thom_r> how are you
[10:26] <PebkacJones> good
[10:26] <PebkacJones> I'm wondering if anyone here is using T430?
[10:27] <bekks> !anyone | PebkacJones
[10:28] <PebkacJones> what issue are you having with T430 ?
[10:28] <PebkacJones> !details
[10:28] <bekks> PebkacJones: No, you :) Which issue do YOU have?
[10:28] <PebkacJones> I haven't had one
[10:29] <PebkacJones> I want to get T430
[10:29] <bekks> !hcl | PebkacJones
[10:29] <PebkacJones> !poll
[10:30] <PebkacJones> !gq
[10:30] <bekks> PebkacJones: Yeah, so dont poll please.
[10:30] <PebkacJones> !hcl
[10:33] <ObrienDave> Merry Krishna, Bah Humbug, and all that ;P
[10:40] <cvtsx> hello
[10:40] <thom_r> hello
[10:40] <ObrienDave> greetings
[10:41] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, you get it installed yet?
[10:41] <cvtsx> happy xmas
[10:42] <cvtsx> anyone familiar with znc and ubuntu?
[10:42] <batzy> Yep
[10:42] <batzy> cvtsx, you mean the irc bouncer thing right
[10:43] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, no, im back running in live mode, turned some stuff off around the house, but now i cant mount the 160gb drive, "you do not have permissions necessary, i was trying to dd from it when the computer froze, so i hope that didnt break it
[10:43] <batzy> ItsMeLenny, change the permissions?
[10:43] <cvtsx> yes
[10:43] <ItsMeLenny> batzy, but this didnt happen before
[10:43] <batzy> cvtsx, wat about it
[10:44] <ItsMeLenny> and its just an internal drive
[10:44] <cvtsx> and nvm, i was going to use amazon vps but they want phone verification
[10:44] <cvtsx> fuck thaT
[10:44] <cvtsx> or maybe not
[10:44] <cvtsx> 1 min
[10:44] <FloodBot1> cvtsx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:44] <ItsMeLenny> ah, i can get in with root
[10:44] <batzy> ItsMeLenny, .....change the permissions..
[10:44] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, I doubt that you've broken the HD, but unless you need anythign off that drive' Id' delete all the partitions, and start from scratch there.
[10:44] <cvtsx> itsmelenny: you talking to me?
[10:45] <batzy> chown -R Lenny /
[10:45] <batzy> done.
[10:45] <batzy> lol
[10:45] <batzy> that's actually not a good idea
[10:45] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, its a different hard drive that has all my important files on it
[10:46] <ItsMeLenny> batzy, its a different hard drive
[10:46] <batzy> lol
[10:46] <batzy> is it in /dev/?
[10:46] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, I talking about the system drive /boot.  /swap ...  /  ... /home
[10:46] <ItsMeLenny> batzy, i have no idea anymore :P
[10:47] <ItsMeLenny> im about ready to shoot myself :P
[10:47] <batzy> ItsMeLenny, you're on ubuntu right?
[10:47] <ItsMeLenny> batzy, i sure hope so, :P yeah i am
[10:47] <ItsMeLenny> whats the terminal called
[10:47] <ItsMeLenny> if i can start it in root
[10:47] <batzy> ls /dev/ >> devices.txt ; pastebinit -i devices.txt
[10:47] <batzy> type that
[10:47] <SaberX01> I've started using /home on it's own drive these days, just for this reason, can re-install and have little fear of toasting my /home partition.
[10:47] <batzy> and paste the link here
[10:48] <ItsMeLenny> cant pastebin, the computer is barely running
[10:48] <batzy> no i mean
[10:48] <batzy> type that command
[10:48] <batzy> into your terminal
[10:48] <batzy> oh it has no connection?
[10:48] <ItsMeLenny> it doesnt have pastebinit
[10:48] <ItsMeLenny> no idea about the connection
[10:48] <batzy> I thought ubuntu came with it preloaded.
[10:49] <ItsMeLenny> whats terminals actual name
[10:49] <ObrienDave> no
[10:49] <batzy> :\
[10:49] <batzy> ItsMeLenny, sudo apt-get install pastebinit? :)
[10:49] <ObrienDave> terminal
[10:49] <ItsMeLenny> ah! gnome-terminal
[10:49] <Kablam> hi guys
[10:50] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, you still using USB Key for install ?
[10:50] <ItsMeLenny> ok, i think im about to win
[10:50] <thom_r> Call Charlie Sheen, he can help you win
[10:50] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, going to 'dd' to a SD card
[10:50] <cvtsx> ok im at my vps console what do i do now xD
[10:50] <cvtsx> to install znc
[10:50] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, Good luck ... I never win using dd ..
[10:51] <batzy> cvtsx, uh
[10:51] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, i am a master of the d
[10:51] <llutz> cvtsx: sudo apt-get install znc    and then read http://wiki.znc.in/FAQ
[10:51] <ItsMeLenny> i mean dd
[10:51] <ItsMeLenny> :?
[10:51] <batzy> sudo apt-get install znc?
[10:51] <SaberX01> cvtsx, what server sw you running?
[10:51] <cvtsx> k
[10:51] <Kablam> i have a question im trying to run a install script for rutorrent and i get a error cant find libdigest-sha1-perl .. and i checked that the ubuntu packages is renamed to libdigest-sha-perl what can i do?
[10:51] <cvtsx> saberx01 how do i find this out? this is my first time using a vps
[10:52] <SaberX01> that would do it fer a UB / DB box :-)
[10:52] <SaberX01> cvtsx, If you dont know what the Server OS is, may want to slow up and get that under control first.
[10:53] <cvtsx> i know what a server os is
[10:53] <cvtsx> idk how to find out
[10:53] <SaberX01> what is it?
[10:53] <cvtsx> http://i.imgur.com/UMn3qDA.png
[10:53] <ItsMeLenny> maybe the christmas tree lights is what was freezing 13.10, but it still doesnt answer the mass amount of crashes
[10:53] <cvtsx> thats what it looks like
[10:54] <batzy> ItsMeLenny, wat
[10:54] <batzy> be specific bout your issue son
[10:55] <ItsMeLenny> batzy, every single gnome thing would crash and want to send a system report, gnome panel, gnome icon for this, unity for that, this for something else
[10:55] <SaberX01> cvtsx, That's your console, did you get a CentOS, Ubuntu, RedHat server, that's what  mean by Server OS
[10:55] <cvtsx> shit i dont even think it gave me an option
[10:56] <ItsMeLenny> why does my computer in the bios say its 3.33Ghz when its only 3.2Ghz
[10:56] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, this SD card install looks more promising, maybe my USB drives have had it
[10:57] <SaberX01> It's possible ... they not made for that type of duty, we all just force them into doing it.
[10:57] <ObrienDave> ItsMeLenny, rounding off error. some use a factor of 1000, some use 1024.
[10:58] <guuest> can you help me about desktop notifications??((
[10:58] <ItsMeLenny> ObrienDave, ah! of course
[10:58] <SaberX01> cvtsx, Well before you go trying to install and configure your server, maybe want is on it initially.
[10:58] <cvtsx> ok
[10:58] <ItsMeLenny> ObrienDave, in fact i think it changed when i updated the bios firmware, so theyve glitched it up themselves
[10:59] <ObrienDave> ItsMeLenny, quite possible :P
[10:59] <cvtsx> how do i do that?
[10:59] <ItsMeLenny> NOOOOOO, SaberX01 this installer has the same problem
[10:59] <SaberX01> Allot of us here are versed in multple OS's but this is Ubuntu support, and if you have a CentOS server, best place to be is in CentOS IRC.
[10:59] <ItsMeLenny> [errno 5] input/output error
[11:00] <cvtsx> SaberX01: found it
[11:00] <cvtsx> what os should i run>?
[11:00] <cvtsx> well what version
[11:00] <cvtsx> ofc ubuntu lool
[11:00] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, Try the server installer, and toward the end add OpenSSH is need be and pick a Desktop from the Tasksel menu.
[11:00] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, that has to mean its a 12.04.3 issue
[11:01] <ItsMeLenny> well if i have to download another version i might as well download 13.04... alternate cd maybe?
[11:01] <ItsMeLenny> SQUASHFS error
[11:01] <cvtsx> 12.04 (what i use) or 13.10
[11:01] <cvtsx> which one? I have never used the serrver version though
[11:02] <ItsMeLenny> ok, now my computer froze again
[11:02] <ObrienDave> no alternate for 13.10 afaik
[11:02] <ItsMeLenny> im going mental here
[11:02] <SaberX01> cvtsx, Personally, for a server, there's no question for me, its 12.04 LTS .. others may not agree.
[11:02] <ObrienDave> ^^^^agrees
[11:02] <cvtsx> ok il go with that, i was leaning towards 12.04 also
[11:02] <cvtsx> 64 bit or 32?
[11:02] <cvtsx> i say 64 but idk abnout servers
[11:02] <SaberX01> 64
[11:02] <ItsMeLenny> ObrienDave, no alternate??
[11:03] <ObrienDave> let me check
[11:03] <SaberX01> They stopped the Alt-CD on the 13.xx releases, is just server and Desktop now.
[11:03] <ItsMeLenny> how can this installation screw up so many times
[11:03] <ItsMeLenny> ok, well i might go for a 13.04 alternate then
[11:04] <ufk> hello
[11:04] <cfhowlett> ufk,   greetings
[11:04] <ObrienDave> no alternate for 13. afaik
[11:04] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, The server CD is the same installer as Alt. ...
[11:04] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, ah
[11:04] <SaberX01> adn there's not Alt fof 13.xx anymore
[11:04] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, Merry Krishna, Bah Humbug, and all that ;P
[11:04] <ufk> i added a path to /etc/environment, do i need to execute something for it to get actually added to the path ?
[11:04] <cfhowlett> ItsMeLenny, perhaps mini?
[11:05] <SaberX01> it's either server or desktop or all that AWS / Cloud stuff
[11:05] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, but does the server have the DE on it?
[11:05] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, I can go you one better
[11:05] <ItsMeLenny> ok, how about i go for 12.04.1 alternate....
[11:05] <ObrienDave> no alternate for 13.04 afaik
[11:05] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, do tell ;)
[11:05] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, Yes, tooward the end, Tasksel asks, Ubuntu DT, Lubuntu, Xubuntu etc etc
[11:05] <cvtsx> whats a instance in networking?
[11:06] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, oh, so theyre actually on the CD? or does it download them
[11:06] <SaberX01> Yes
[11:06] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, sending now ...
[11:06] <SaberX01> On the CD already apart from some odd packages here and there.
[11:07] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, but if yoru at that point of the install, you have internet access.
[11:07] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, ok, well i might as well grab it, i'll just delete this 13.10 13.10_64 and 12.04_64 isos :P
[11:07] <SaberX01> Get the Server CD, and burn it to a CD, then Add Ubuntu-Desktop when the isntaller asks you if you want additional SW installed, just tick the box you want and go.
[11:08] <ObrienDave> i'll be danged if i can ever get DCC to work ;/
[11:09] <SaberX01> It's also allot faster, and allot ligher, as your not using all the heavy desktop graphics during install./
[11:09] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, pm?
[11:09] <SaberX01> cvtsx, Im not sure what that's referrign too, I'd suspect, your primary NIC, but that's a guess.
[11:09] <ObrienDave> sure
[11:09] <cvtsx> ehh i figured it out
[11:09] <SaberX01> DCC ? what's that?
[11:09] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, so what version of ubuntu should i be getting in the end?
[11:10] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, if you asking me, there's onlt one answer, 12.04.3 64 Server.
[11:10] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, ok, i'll go with that, im not up to making decisions anymore :P
[11:11] <SaberX01> It installed like a champ, all be it 32bit, on my little HP Mini 3 nights ago, and running DebMirror on it now, not probs at all Via C7 1.2Ghz  2GB box.
[11:11] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, how can it have ubuntu desktop on it when its smaller
[11:11] <cvtsx> SaberX01 what snap shot should i use for backup?
[11:12] <VanessaE> *sigh* I hate computers sometimes.
[11:12] <ItsMeLenny> im sure they have screwed up the 12.04.3 64bit livecd iso
[11:12] <ItsMeLenny> VanessaE, I hate them all the time
[11:12] <VanessaE> even the 12.04.3 live USB can't reliably suspend on my hardware.  wtf?
[11:12] <ItsMeLenny> VanessaE, sounds like you dont use them enough :P
[11:12] <ItsMeLenny> ah yes, the ol suspend
[11:13] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, Toward the end of the installation, the installer brings up a menu list fo additional servers you can install, openSSH, Postfix etce tc, it also has all three major desktops, Ubuntu, Lubunt and Xubuntu .. all you do is tick the box, and away it goes.
[11:13] <VanessaE> ItsMeLenny: after 25 years in the field, I've learned that I don't have to hate all of them :)
[11:13] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, so that means they do download from the internet? :P
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> cursing is the only language that every computer understands
[11:14] <ItsMeLenny> VanessaE, :P
[11:14] <ItsMeLenny> MonkeyDust, understands yet still doesnt respond to
[11:14] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, I dont package per package which do and which dont.
[11:14] <ItsMeLenny> ah
[11:14] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, but at that point in the install, you ahve internet access already.
[11:15] <ItsMeLenny> well, I've got 500gb of data to chomp through, yet at these dial up speeds i think thats impossible
[11:15] <SaberX01> cvtsx, Not sure I understand that question.
[11:15] <VanessaE> the only possible, conceivable thing I can think of is that I have no swap (why should I?  I have 16GB of RAM).  Suspend leads directly to what looks to me like an actual hibernate cycle (a full power down with no flashing power light).  explanation?
[11:15] <VanessaE> ItsMeLenny: dial-up?  O_O
[11:15] <VanessaE> you have my condolences.
[11:15] <alterbroken> hi
[11:16] <ItsMeLenny> its not dial up, but almost behaves as much, aussie internet, thanks liberal coalition
[11:16] <alterbroken> uhy, lost my password, cant figure out how to get stuff working
[11:16] <alterbroken> anywho
[11:16] <alterbroken> i'm trying to bind disabling and enabling my touchpad to a Fn key
[11:16] <SaberX01> VanessaE, As a practice, whether used or not, is good idea to create a swap, but agreed, 16gb RAM you prob never gonna hit the disk anyway.
[11:16] <alterbroken> http://pastebin.com/Asdsktp8 is my current idea, but its not working
[11:16] <ItsMeLenny> VanessaE, yeah i dont use swap either, but swap was meant to have been abolished in favour of swap that sits in the partition, like a swap file
[11:16] <cvtsx> SaberX01: its ok, turns out i dont need it
[11:16] <thom_r> I've heard stories of the Aussie internet. Sorry
[11:17] <cvtsx> but what port do i use for znc/vpn? is 22 ok?
[11:17] <ItsMeLenny> problem i had with swap with my 8gb of ram is that it kept using it
[11:18] <VanessaE> ItsMeLenny: well creating a swap file is easy enough to do, but would it matter in this particular case?  I'm trying to establish if the absence of a swap (partition|file) is causing some obscure forced hibernate action to fail (it clearly says it's "Suspend" when I click it,m and that that's what it is doing in the logs, but it visually looks more like hibernate but without ten minutes of flushing to disk)
[11:18] <ItsMeLenny> might be placebo but it seems the more i curse the liberal coalition the faster my internet goes
[11:18] <SaberX01> Port-22 is normally your SSH port (check your config), so if your going to thunnel VPN / SSH on 22 that's ok I'd think. I dont know about the ZNC package.
[11:19] <SaberX01> cvtsx, But from a security stand point, you should change SSH P22 to something else.
[11:19] <cvtsx> ok thanks
[11:19] <ItsMeLenny> VanessaE, yeah, theres suspend and hibernation and i've really never gotten either of them to work, one i would accidently press instead of shut down and the only way my computer would come back on is if i switched it off at the wall
[11:19] <cvtsx> they only got ssh, does it suffice?
[11:19] <VanessaE> figures.
[11:20] <VanessaE> what is it that they're doing right on my (Android 4.1) tablet then? :-/
[11:20] <llutz> VanessaE: hibernation = suspend to disk, which needs (by default) a swap-partition. if you don't have one, hibernation won't work without a lot of work before
[11:20] <cvtsx> lololol im a fucking idiot xD
[11:20] <llutz> !language | cvtsx
[11:20] <VanessaE> llutz: yep, I know.  which is why I'm doing normal S3 Suspend to RAM.
[11:21] <cvtsx> sorry
[11:21] <SaberX01> cvtsx, SSH is what most of us use. I ahte to say this, but if I were you, seeing how this is your first server, don't put anything critical / important on the server, it's gonna take a while to lean how to use and secure it properly.
[11:21] <cvtsx> SaberX01: i dont plan on putting anything critical on it
[11:21] <VanessaE> llutz: the logs and the on-screen prompts clearly say it's suspending, but it is acting more like it's trying to hibernate - the machine hangs for a moment, shuts things down, then shuts itself off - but without the flashing power LED.
[11:22] <cvtsx> i just want a znc and maybe a vpn
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> cvtsx  is the server linked to the internet, or just for local use?
[11:22] <cvtsx> linked to internet
[11:22] <SaberX01> cvtsx, I need to go loo up the znc .. I dont use it, so need to figure that out.
[11:22] <cvtsx> its an amazon vps
[11:22] <VanessaE> llutz: I'm wondering if the power management system in Linux (well, the kernal if not elsewhere) is sending the wrong "command" to the part of the hardware that controls these actions
[11:22] <llutz> VanessaE: check logs
[11:22] <cvtsx> kk its just a putty for irc
[11:24] <SaberX01> cvtsx, Here's a 12.04 install guide, not sure if it's perfect or not: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-install-znc-an-irc-bouncer-on-an-ubuntu-vps
[11:24] <VanessaE> llutz: the logs indicate a normal suspend.  it's when I try to resume that it dies.  usually it powers back up and ...then that's just it.  all I get is power, but no usability.  totally dead console, have to hard power-off or hit reset.
[11:24] <cvtsx> thanks, i will check it out ;)
[11:24] <SaberX01> cvtsx, and here's a OpenVPN how too: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN
[11:24] <cvtsx> thanks
[11:25] <llutz> cvtsx: znc is in the repos, use "sudo apt-get install znc"    and then read http://wiki.znc.in/FAQ. there is no need to compile znc yourself
[11:25] <vegetablesalad19> Hello! How can I colorize output I get from grep in myy script? I mark matched string in read, but how to set color for everything else? - adb logcat | grep --color -E "findMe"
[11:25] <cvtsx> llutz: thanks man
[11:26] <SaberX01> cvtsx, Here's the Ubuntu Server Guide, you probably want to spend allot fo time in there for a while: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/
[11:26] <cvtsx> thanks saber
[11:27] <SaberX01> cvtsx, and definately have a read through this: http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/how-secure-ubuntu-1204-lts-server-part-1-basics
[11:27] <VanessaE> llutz: the only glimmer of hope I've been able to find is this, but G*d look at the age of this bug:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pm-utils/+bug/990129
[11:27] <VanessaE> ha!
[11:27] <VanessaE> I'd forgotten ubottu does that.
[11:27] <VanessaE> (and yeah, that's me at the end with a rather upset post)
[11:28] <cvtsx> ok, do you think if i have it unsecure it will get breached fast?
[11:28] <SaberX01> cvtsx, the more security you put in the better off you gonna be.
[11:28] <cvtsx> yeah
[11:28] <VanessaE> cvtsx: does Windows serve as a good virus-attractant platform? :)
[11:29] <VanessaE> (in other words, yes, you will be breached)
[11:29] <SaberX01> cvtsx, We're not talking SELinux here, but normal sane server security, there's allot you can do.
[11:29] <cvtsx> lool but im running ubuntu server
[11:29] <cfhowlett> cvtsx, your system.  if you want to knowingly leave a breach vector - don't come back crying if you get stung
[11:29] <SaberX01> I know,
[11:29] <cvtsx> yeah, i put a firewall so only my ip can connect to it
[11:29] <cvtsx> i feel ya
[11:29] <VanessaE> ips can be spoofed.
[11:30] <SaberX01> Getting hacked just plane suxs .. anything you can do to prevent it is a good thing.
[11:31] <hitsujiTMO> cvtsx: do you have a static ip? I would suggest setting up a nat vpn instead.
[11:31] <ItsMeLenny> never been hacked in my life
[11:31] <cvtsx> my home ip or the vps ip?
[11:31] <SaberX01> cvtsx, Lots of good firewall, Im not an expert on them, but these are pretty good: ClearOS, IPCop, eBox Platform, Monowall
[11:31] <cvtsx> my home is static i believe
[11:32] <cvtsx> the server came with a firewall all ready i believe
[11:32] <ItsMeLenny> if im hacked someone might steal my text documents, and that one sample song i copied from windows XP
[11:32] <hitsujiTMO> cvtsx: your home ip, if you set it up so that your ip is on the firewall, then as soon as your ip changes you lose access
[11:33] <cvtsx> o yeah
[11:33] <cvtsx> yeah my ip is static, even if it is dynamic we never turn off the modem so im good
[11:33] <SaberX01> Yeah, prob not a good plan, didn't they assign you at least 1 IP address?
[11:33] <VanessaE> can someone tell me a bit about these 3.5 kernels?  back in the 2.x days, it was generally highly recommended to avoid odd-numbered .x versions.  is this not still the case?
[11:34] <VanessaE> (seems I need to update beyond 3.2.0 to have any chance of making suspend work right)
[11:34] <cvtsx> its dynamic
[11:34] <hitsujiTMO> cvtsx: lol, most isps force an IP renew every 24 - 48 hrs. So not turning off your modem doesn't guarantee that it will stay static
[11:34] <cvtsx> nope, my ip hasnt changed
[11:34] <cvtsx> and its dynamic
[11:34] <ItsMeLenny> VanessaE, i needed 3.5 for the blackmagic intensity im pretty sure, but i think they broke some games in Wine, always get a core dump from it
[11:34] <cvtsx> must be my sh1t isp
[11:35] <SaberX01> cvtsx, are you talkign about your Home IP ot the VPS IP is dynamic ?
[11:35] <hitsujiTMO> VanessaE: back in the old days the odd number were dev builds. This not not the case since they switched to git as they now have dev branches
[11:35] <cvtsx> home ip
[11:35] <SaberX01> ok
[11:35] <cvtsx> vps is static i believe
[11:35] <VanessaE> hitsujiTMO: ok, that's about what I figured.  and that's how I remembered it as well.
[11:35] <SaberX01> I hope so.
[11:35] <VanessaE> guess I'll give 3.5 a shot then.
[11:35] <VanessaE> at least fglrx is good all the way up to 3.12 if I should need to go that high :)
[11:36] <cvtsx> but yeah my ip doesnt change every 24-48 hours
[11:36] <SaberX01> VanessaE, tht kinda threw me too the old Odd number thingy.
[11:36] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, i just found i can check the disc integrity, so i'll run that on the usb and see if its algood, then i'll install the server
[11:36] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, will it install the server things and make my computer accessable like a server
[11:36] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, sounds good
[11:37] <hitsujiTMO> cvtsx: still, setting up a nat vpn would still do you some good, would allow you to access the server form other locations, add an extra layer of security ( if you block off all other access to the server ) and allow you to bypass local isp blocks if you're stick in a situation where you cannot access particular sites
[11:37] <ItsMeLenny> whats that thing when someone types in my IP in the internet browser, i had it at one point, is that apache?
[11:37] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, just make sure to select OpenSSH and yes, you can SSH in / out and use it for SVN BZR GiT, or whatever ya want.
[11:37] <cvtsx> yeah i plan on using it for znc and vpn, and i dont have any restrictions
[11:38] <hyper_ch> hi there, non-lts releases don't have an 18 month support anymore but I can't find out how long those are now being supported. Anyone knows?
[11:38] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, i dont want to use it for those things :P is there a way not to install them
[11:38] <ObrienDave> 9 months
[11:39] <hyper_ch> ObrienDave: thx
[11:39] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, Im pretty sure you want OpenSSH installed .. may also want the LAMP stack too.
[11:39] <ItsMeLenny> what is LVM
[11:39] <hitsujiTMO> hyper_ch: full info here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[11:39] <solis> Hello folks! New to ubuntu and linux and I stumbled upon a little issue and was hoping someone here could help me. I tried(and I think i did it successfully^^) to install my gfx drivers for my HD Radeon 5770 card. But when I start dota2 the "preparing to launch.." window pops up briefly and then disappears and the game wont start.. Tried a few different "additional drivers" and one works kind of, the game starts and I have sound but the
[11:39] <solis>  screen is completely black. Any ideas?
[11:39] <ObrienDave> Logical Volume Management
[11:39] <hyper_ch> ItsMeLenny: large volume manager
[11:39] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, You select what yo want installed, by default, no additional packages are installed.
[11:40] <hyper_ch> logical :)
[11:40] <hyper_ch> hitsujiTMO: thx
[11:40] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, Logical Volume Manager/Management
[11:40] <cvtsx> this is worrisome https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/abcc2a2d828b1624459cf8c4d2ccdfdcde62c8d1ab51e438db200ab3c5c8cd17/analysis/1387971387/
[11:40] <hitsujiTMO> solis: how exactly did you install the gfx drivers?
[11:40] <cvtsx> i downloaded the exe from a link off amazons official site
[11:41] <[[thufir]]> for mp3's, any suggestions besides amazon or google, as neither work in canada?
[11:41] <cvtsx> do you think its safe? havent ran it yet
[11:41] <ItsMeLenny> do i need reserved blocks?
[11:41] <ItsMeLenny> havent done it this way for a while
[11:41] <cvtsx> both norton and malwarebytes said it was safe
[11:41] <SaberX01> cvtsx, not for linux it's not.
[11:41] <cvtsx> im on windows right now
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> hyper_ch  http://ubuntuone.com/434GupdpZzDds9LCEcPyH5
[11:41] <SaberX01> cvtsx, Im sorry :-) ..
[11:41] <cvtsx> win 7 64bit
[11:42] <hitsujiTMO> cvtsx: download it from the official page: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html
[11:42] <cvtsx> but i do got a ubuntu 64bit partition
[11:42] <cvtsx> hit thats where i got it from
[11:42] <SaberX01> cvtsx, Ubuntu is a good way to avoid all that.
[11:42] <cvtsx> lool so its safe? Im just a little paranoid
[11:42] <solis> hitsujiTMO,  umm.. downloaded from AMD site and installed thru terminal(did some 'chmod +x file.run' and so on, found some guide to help me on the ubuntu forums)
[11:43] <hitsujiTMO> cvtsx: its safe
[11:43] <cvtsx> saberx01 yeah but im on windows 95% of the time ;(
[11:43] <cvtsx> ok
[11:43] <SaberX01> cvtsx, Linux can get virus and worms, but it's much harder due to the permission structure.
[11:43] <hitsujiTMO> solis: yeah, thats the wrong way to install the fglrx driver.
[11:43] <solis> doh :(
[11:43] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, wont this mean i will have server kernels rather than generic?
[11:43] <solis> how do i reinstall it properly hitsujiTMO ? <3
[11:43] <cvtsx> saberx01 yeah i noticied since you got to manually allow programs to execute
[11:44] <cvtsx> i like that
[11:44] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, I jsut got educated on that .. it appears the server and desktop kernels ahve merged, so they be the same now days.
[11:44] <hitsujiTMO> solis: lets see if it worked tho. can you run the following: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:44] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, oh, well then :P
[11:44] <ItsMeLenny> that will cause me a lot less confusion
[11:44] <cvtsx> yeah when i first used ubuntu i was flipping shit cause i couldnt get minecraft to run loool
[11:45] <ItsMeLenny> cvtsx, >_<
[11:45] <solis> hitsujiTMO, Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[11:45] <solis> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:45] <solis> http://pastebin.com/PV8a2g5r
[11:45] <solis>  last rows from that
[11:45] <cvtsx> haha that was 1.5 years ago, im a little better now
[11:45] <ItsMeLenny> minecraft is about the only game that runs, and runescape, thanks to java
[11:45] <ItsMeLenny> cvtsx, we forgive you
[11:45] <cvtsx> yeah, but i hate java
[11:45] <cvtsx> lool lenny
[11:45] <ItsMeLenny> dont we all?
[11:45] <SaberX01> me too
[11:46] <cvtsx> i dont got that sh1t installed on windows 4sure
[11:46] <ItsMeLenny> java, more like... poova
[11:46] <ItsMeLenny> see what i did there
[11:46] <cvtsx> lol
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> cvtsx  don't use that sh- word here, please
[11:46] <cvtsx> ok
[11:46] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, whats this http proxy access stuff
[11:47] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, skip it.
[11:47] <ItsMeLenny> easy enough
[11:47] <SaberX01> Unless you want to fliter yourself for content :-)
[11:47] <ItsMeLenny> ohhhh
[11:47] <hitsujiTMO> solis: It does seem to be installed and active at least.
[11:47] <ItsMeLenny> right, a proxy
[11:47] <ItsMeLenny> i should probably make myself a filter :P
[11:48] <solis> hitsujiTMO, yeah thats what I thought too because prior to the installation steam told me to update my drivers which it doesnt anymore. Now I just have to figure out how to get dota2 to run instead of crashing even before startup hehe
[11:48] <Kablam> guys need osme help here please im 13.10 mini iso trying to install rutorrent/rtorrent/libtorrent/nginx thru a script and i get a error cant find package libdigest-sha1-perl.... what can i do?
[11:49] <sailendra> hello there i am having problem with printing canon lbp 2900, i am using ubuntu 12.04
[11:49] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, Squid aka proxy .. not entry level stuff, neither is Devcot + Postfix, that' email stuff makes your head hut.
[11:49] <SaberX01> *hurt
[11:50] <swordy> Hello
[11:50] <hitsujiTMO> solis: for future reference, the normal way to install fglrx is through System Settings -> Software & Updates -> Additional Drivers. or installing fglrx package through apt-get. installing from amd site can lead to breakage after kernel updates
[11:52] <solis> ok hitsujiTMO, but i tried that first, it was the same problem so tried it this way :( alot of errors when trying to start dota throguh terminal-launched steam: (steam:12018): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.
[11:52] <solis> any idea?
[11:52] <Kablam> solis do you have amd a4-a10 cpu and use internal gfx?
[11:53] <hitsujiTMO> solis: LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent. is just a warning
[11:53] <solis> Kablam, i have intel i5 CPU and radeon HD 5770 it thats what you mean :P
[11:53] <VanessaE> well here goes nothibng.
[11:53]  * VanessaE reboots with 3.5.0-45....
[11:53] <Kablam> nope there is a bug with internal gfx in those amd cpus
[11:54] <Kablam> nvm ;)
[11:54] <hitsujiTMO> solis: LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent. i've seen that a lot with SteamOS logs so can be safely ignored
[11:54] <solis> too bad hitsujiTMO  :( would be nice if you saw that and went "aah! do X and Y and its fixed" hehe
[11:54] <SaberX01> How you do that in the channel, add the * outside adn nick inside like VanessaE just did?
[11:55]  * solis uses /me
[11:55] <hitsujiTMO> SaberX01: ot but it's /me
[11:55] <cummseng> ubuntu 13.10, how can i move notifications to the top right of the screen? they are appearing at the bottom right
[11:55] <SaberX01> hitsujiTMO, thanks.
[11:55]  * SaberX01 I got it now 
[11:56] <cvtsx> this may sound dumb, but ubuntu doesnt have rdp huh
[11:56] <cvtsx> so i need to use putty
[11:56] <cvtsx> rdp = windows only?
[11:57] <SaberX01> cvtsx, Yes, has rdp .. but for most server things probably faster CLI via SSH
[11:57] <hitsujiTMO> cvtsx: you can use rdp with ubuntu or vnc or ssh or anything similar
[11:57] <cvtsx> ok thanks
[11:57] <ItsMeLenny> so SaberX01, why do i want SSh and anything else
[11:57] <cvtsx> im only familiar with windows rdp
[11:57] <SaberX01> cvtsx, if you gonna run servers, may as well get used to command-line :-)
[11:57] <solis> so hitsujiTMO  u dont think its the drivers that is causing the issue?
[11:57] <cvtsx> (which is unsecure)
[11:57] <ItsMeLenny> manual package selection? virtual machine host?
[11:57] <hitsujiTMO> cvtsx: rdp requires a gui which is a waste of resources
[11:58] <cvtsx> saberx01 yeah im going to have to ;)
[11:58] <cvtsx> hit does it really waste enough to where you benefit more from command line?
[11:58] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, if you dont want it, is ok, I always install OpenSSH for keys, and the server if I need it.
[11:58] <hitsujiTMO> solis: it could be, but i wouldn't just assume it without any direct evidence
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> cvtsx  ubuntu does have rdesktop
[11:58] <cvtsx> kk
[11:58] <cvtsx> thx
[11:59] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, not sure what keys are, is manual package selection something i want? is thta what i need to be able to install ubuntu desktop
[11:59] <solis> ok hitsujiTMO , just thought it was that because ive tried all the fixes out there I could find that werent gfx related from people with the same/similar issues :/
[11:59] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, SSH keys, you you can authenticate to other SSH servers / accounts .. we can go over that later.
[12:00] <SaberX01> Yes, Manual PKG selection is what you want.
[12:00] <cvtsx> hitsujiTMO: does it really waste enough to where you benefit more from command line?
[12:00] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, select that, then, whichever desktop you like.
[12:00] <ItsMeLenny> i dont think i want ssh accounts tho
[12:00] <ItsMeLenny> fuuuuuu, i pressed enter, and it didnt put it on, it instead skipped
[12:01] <cvtsx> loooooooool
[12:01] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, we can talk about that after, it's not critical right now.
[12:01] <ItsMeLenny> enter doesnt enable? gah ffs, now what do i do
[12:01] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, No worries, let the install finish.
[12:01] <hitsujiTMO> cvtsx: yes. using a graphical interface on a server is much slower that using commandline for most tasks. servers are optimised to be controlled from commandline
[12:01] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, no Space-bar selects.
[12:01] <ItsMeLenny> does this mean i'll have to use apt >_<
[12:01] <SaberX01> No
[12:01] <SaberX01> Your gonna use Tasksel
[12:02] <ItsMeLenny> ah
[12:02] <cvtsx> ok thanks, this is my first time running a server (if you havent noticed lool)
[12:02] <SaberX01> Same Menu as you just saw.
[12:02] <SaberX01> = Tasksel
[12:02] <ItsMeLenny> didnt know i could bring it back
[12:02] <SaberX01> cvtsx, Yeah, we kinda got that impression :-) is ok, everyone isn the same boat at some point.
[12:02] <hitsujiTMO> cvtsx: plus, to do any configuration you'll just be opening the terminal anyway? why add that unnecessary layer of complexity by installing a graphical environment?
[12:03] <cvtsx> xD
[12:03] <ItsMeLenny> i'll be a pro server user by the time 14.04 comes out
[12:03] <cvtsx> yeah
[12:03] <ItsMeLenny> then again, 12.04 server is supported til the end of ages
[12:03] <cvtsx> lool lenny you setting up a server also?
[12:03] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, you can use tasksel on your desktop installs too .. just nobody thinks about it.
[12:03] <ItsMeLenny> cvtsx, yeah, convinced by SaberX01, after the desktop failed massively multiple times, im not a happy camper right now :P
[12:03] <SaberX01> cvtsx, He's installing the srver CD, then adding a Desktop to it.
[12:04] <cvtsx> o
[12:04] <cfhowlett> ItsMeLenny, 2017 is the end of ages?  good to know ...
[12:04] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, i never knew what it was called, i would just use synaptiv
[12:04] <cvtsx> i just used the handy dandy windows installer
[12:04] <ItsMeLenny> cfhowlett, yeah, its the ubuntu calender, thats when the world ends
[12:04] <cvtsx> lool
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> cvtsx  wubi?
[12:04] <cvtsx> yes
[12:04] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, Yep, in xterm, sudo tasksel .. gives you all sorts of easy install / removal options.
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> cvtsx  mind: that's a windows application, not a real installation and more lilited than one
[12:05] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, this grub, if i install to master boot record, will it install to /dev/sdd or will it go onto my important file hard drive and break everything
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> limited*
[12:05] <cvtsx> really? in what way?
[12:05] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, yes, install the MBR
[12:05] <cfhowlett> cvtsx, wubi is unstable on its best day.  PLUS it's being downgraded/discontinued and not recommended for anything other than TESTING ubuntu
[12:06] <SaberX01> Then Grub Becomes your boot manager.
[12:06] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, install to the MBR, i dont want it to end up on /dev/sda tho
[12:06] <MonkeyDust> cvtsx  for one, it cannot be upgraded and it sits inside windows, not alongside and independent of it
[12:06] <cvtsx> hhmmm should i delete the partition i got and make a new one/install it manually?
[12:06] <cfhowlett> cvtsx, if you're not going to dual boot, at least consider virtualbox.  You're server will thank you.
[12:06] <cvtsx> i am dual booting
[12:06] <cfhowlett> cvtsx, wubi is NOT dual booting
[12:06] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, Whats on /dev/sda ?
[12:07] <ItsMeLenny> CRAP IT TRIED TO
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> cvtsx  wubi means 'will ultimatley be ineffective'
[12:07] <ItsMeLenny> my important files are on /dev/sda
[12:07] <cvtsx> lool how is not dual booting? i didnt know this ;(
[12:07] <ItsMeLenny> hyperventilating
[12:08] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, You already gone through the partitioning section?
[12:08] <cfhowlett> cvtsx, as monkeydust pointed out ... PLUS you seem to be ignoring that wubi, by design, if for TESTING, not for long-term installation or use
[12:08] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, yeah
[12:08] <ItsMeLenny> that was ages ago
[12:08] <bamphomet> howdy
[12:08] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, You shoudl be Ok, MBR not gonna wipe your data files.
[12:09] <ItsMeLenny> pretty sure the OS installed on /dev/sdd
[12:09] <cvtsx> o man xD. i rarely use my ubuntu partition anyways
[12:09] <ItsMeLenny> it failed when it tried to
[12:09] <cvtsx> but i will delete it and install manually
[12:09] <ItsMeLenny> on /dev/sda
[12:09] <cvtsx> anyways with putty should i use a sock 5 proxy?
[12:09] <ItsMeLenny> ok its installing to dev sdd
[12:09] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, Yes, the /boot /root /home etc etc, that's where you files would get whiped out from.
[12:09] <ItsMeLenny> but now i am shitting myself, maybe literally
[12:09] <ItsMeLenny> oh
[12:10] <SaberX01> You in good shape then
[12:10] <ItsMeLenny> all my files are straight on, "no partition"
[12:10] <ItsMeLenny> the 2 file hard drives i have
[12:10] <ItsMeLenny> have no partition
[12:11] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, installation is complete, should i reboot it, or should i "go back" to install more files
[12:11] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, I'd have to research this but normall the MBR is on the first drive found, /dev/sda ... but that' doesn't mean you have to install the OS there, you can do as you've done, /dev/sdd
[12:11] <ItsMeLenny> i never have the MBR on the first drive
[12:11] <ItsMeLenny> because of the odd way my computer numbers the drives
[12:12] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, Yes, pull the install media and boot.
[12:13] <ItsMeLenny> ooooh, linux kernel 3.8 on server?
[12:13] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, then once your at terminal prompt, login, then update and upgrade before Tasksel
[12:14] <ItsMeLenny> oh, its using the raring kernel?
[12:14] <SaberX01> dont worry about that yet
[12:14] <ItsMeLenny> thats fine, i needed a later kernel
[12:14] <SaberX01> lets get logged in then update && upgrade
[12:14] <ItsMeLenny> doing so now
[12:14] <ItsMeLenny> i used apt
[12:14] <SaberX01> after the upgrade, we'll do Tasksel ... install your Desktop .. then reboot.
[12:15] <ItsMeLenny> i use cinnamon instead of unity, so i wonder if it would be better to just install cinnamon rather than ubuntu desktop
[12:15] <ItsMeLenny> and if that is the case i should add the cinnamon ppa
[12:15] <SaberX01> then update && dist-upgrade for the latest Kernel
[12:15] <Abhijit> hi. i get error FATAL -> Failed to fork. while trying to install any package. 12.04. help.
[12:15] <ItsMeLenny> should i reboot after the upgrade
[12:16] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, dont do any PPA's until after we get a working Ubuntu Desktop
[12:16] <SaberX01> or LDXE / XFCE
[12:16] <ItsMeLenny> yeah, but im saying, because i dont use any of them ultimately, i use cinnamon from linux mint
[12:16] <SaberX01> I can't help with that one.
[12:16] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, ah ok, i'll just do it this way
[12:17] <ItsMeLenny> should i reboot after upgrade for the new kernel?
[12:17] <SaberX01> did you do update && upgrade?
[12:17] <ItsMeLenny> its just finishing the upgrade part
[12:18] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, ok then do: sudo tasksel
[12:18] <cvtsx> ok so i got my private putty key (.ppk) and am connected to the server
[12:18] <ItsMeLenny> before a reboot/
[12:18] <cvtsx> its asking "log in as", what do i do?
[12:18] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, then arrow down to ubuntu-desktop, hit space-bar, then TAB to OK
[12:18] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, ok, we'll see how large it is :P
[12:19] <cvtsx> nvm i found some documentation ;)
[12:19] <ItsMeLenny> whys there an ubuntu desktop usb
[12:19] <yash069> Abhijit: ram problem. ur all ram & swap is full. upgrade ur ram, or kill some unwanted processes
[12:19] <ItsMeLenny> 2d/3d creation and editing suite
[12:19] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, I dont know .. but you need that working first, then we can do the dist-upgrade from within Ubuntu Desktop
[12:19] <ItsMeLenny> interesting stuff in there
[12:20] <ItsMeLenny> so just "ubuntu desktop"
[12:20] <SaberX01> After you install a desktop, there's allot more available in Tasksel
[12:20] <ItsMeLenny> or does it have to have a - in between because that not in there
[12:20] <ItsMeLenny> ah
[12:20] <SaberX01> Yes ubuntu-desktop
[12:20] <ItsMeLenny> oh
[12:20] <ItsMeLenny> theres no ubuntu-desktop
[12:20] <SaberX01> Space Bar, tab to OK
[12:20] <ItsMeLenny> only ubuntu desktop
[12:20] <ItsMeLenny> and ubuntu desktop usb
[12:20] <SaberX01> Use Arrow key to go below whats visable
[12:21] <ItsMeLenny> its all visible
[12:21] <SaberX01> and no ubuntu desktop ?
[12:21] <ItsMeLenny> should i do "manual package selection" will it be in there?
[12:21] <ItsMeLenny> theres "ubuntu desktop" but none thats "ubuntu-desktop"
[12:21] <SaberX01> select "ubuntu desktop"
[12:22] <ItsMeLenny> lol ok, sorry :p
[12:22] <SaberX01> with space bar, then tab to OK, then enter.
[12:22] <SaberX01> then go grab a beer, gonna be a while,
[12:22] <ItsMeLenny> i hit enter, not tab
[12:22] <ObrienDave> 2 beers
[12:22] <ItsMeLenny> and now its pushed the screen up
[12:22] <SaberX01> prob like 250MB or so Id guess.
[12:22] <VanessaE> well I give up.  3.5 kernel did no good.  newest video driver too.  this stupid thing just refuses to properly enter S3 suspend.
[12:22] <VanessaE> (or rather, it shuts off when it should sleep)
[12:23] <ItsMeLenny> save me SaberX01 i broke it
[12:23] <SaberX01> You can't break it :-)
[12:23] <mobeguy> hi guys
[12:23] <ItsMeLenny> oh, now it says "extracting templates from packages"
[12:23] <ItsMeLenny> pretty sure i broke it :P
[12:23] <ObrienDave> ItsMeLenny, patience ;P
[12:23] <mobeguy> since a few days I always get a "system program problem detected" message whenever I start my computer. How can I find out what causes that?
[12:23] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, is you selected the ubuntu desktop, it's rolling, sit back and relax :-)
[12:24] <ItsMeLenny> oh, its working :P
[12:24] <SaberX01> Indeed :-)
[12:24] <ItsMeLenny> 965 packages
[12:24] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, you realise this is exactly what i wanted to avoid :P because of how slow the internet is
[12:25] <mobeguy_> sorry, firefox keeps crashing on me all the time too.
[12:25] <ItsMeLenny> mobeguy, yeah my firefox would continusouly crash aswell, even after updates, dunno what the hell is wrong with it
[12:25] <ItsMeLenny> mobeguy_, ^
[12:26] <mobeguy_> ItsMeLenny: so its not just me, phew :D
[12:26] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, all of the installs download some from the internet, mayeb this way it's a bit more, but, we have a working shell, which is important.
[12:26] <ItsMeLenny> mobeguy_, i had multiple versions after versions, so many pages would crash it, might be the newer firefoxes?
[12:27] <mobeguy_> ItsMeLenny: possible. but I can use another browser if it gets worse, so that's not my main concern even though its annoying
[12:27] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, yeah but if i have the ubuntu-desktop in the iso already means i can install it multiple times without having to download each time
[12:27] <ItsMeLenny> mobeguy_, mine got annoying :P
[12:27] <mobeguy_> ItsMeLenny: I am more worried about the random "system program problem detected" at every startup. Is there a way to find out what causes it?
[12:28] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, well that be true, but I could walk you through this install with my eyes closed, and the sucess rate is normally very high.
[12:28] <ItsMeLenny> mobeguy_, is that in firefox?
[12:28] <ItsMeLenny> mobeguy_, ive never experienced that
[12:28] <mobeguy_> ItsMeLenny: no, that is a system message. not related to firefox i assume
[12:28] <Abhijit> yash069, ok
[12:29] <mobeguy_> ItsMeLenny: I only said that about firefox because it just kicked me out of the channel (am using webchat right  now)
[12:29] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, yeah, this way seems more stable than the livecds, i just shouldnt have borked my system in the first place, all to try to get GTA:SA to run in wine, because it used to! then no idea why it doesnt anymore
[12:29] <yash069> Abhijit: also you might be out of PIDs. if not ram
[12:29] <ItsMeLenny> mobeguy_, yeah i thought as much, you should be able to get mobeguy back now
[12:30] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, Install server ... add desktop, can't get much easier than that.
[12:30] <cvtsx> ok cool i on my vps through putty
[12:30] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, true, but what would be easier is, install server with desktop :P
[12:30] <ItsMeLenny> i could always make my own iso
[12:30] <cvtsx> and to install znc all i do is 'sudo apt-get install znc'
[12:31] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, well you went too fast first time around or we'd be doing that :-)
[12:31] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, true, but the desktop would still have to download right?
[12:31] <Abhijit> yash069, there is limit on PIDs? Why would anyone put limit on PIDs? How Do i remove that limit?
[12:31] <SaberX01> Yes
[12:31] <ItsMeLenny> :P
[12:31] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, thanks very much for the help btw
[12:32] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, I do install testing for Ubuntu-QA, and after 100's if not 1000's of installs, this method, I can assure you works :-)
[12:32] <cvtsx> yeah saber thx for initially helping me with the vps (when it was obv i had no idea what i am doing)
[12:33] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, May not be the fastest, but normally delivers the goods. And if you have FGLX issues, you knwo you have a workign shell you cna seal wiht it in.
[12:33] <Abhijit> yash069, ?
[12:33] <yash069> Abhijit: cat /proc/sys/kernel/pid_max
[12:33] <win5hit> hi there, Merry Christmas!
[12:33] <SaberX01> can deal .. ..
[12:34] <Abhijit> yash069, 32768
[12:34] <ItsMeLenny> umm SaberX01... i walked away from the computer, and now that i came back, the screen is black
[12:34] <ObrienDave> press a key, rattle the mouse
[12:34] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, we could have just used: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop .. but wanted you to see how Tasksel works.
[12:35] <cvtsx> and to install znc all i do is 'sudo apt-get install znc'
[12:35] <ItsMeLenny> oh, the key press worked
[12:35] <ItsMeLenny> :P
[12:35] <SaberX01> :-)
[12:35] <yash069> that enough, i guess.... paste ur free 's output http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[12:35] <yash069> ^, Abhijit
[12:35] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, yeah i thought as much about that, but i wanted to see how tasksel works also :P
[12:35] <SaberX01> Arrow keys good to bring that back.
[12:35] <ObrienDave> screensaver, gets 'em every time ROFL
[12:35] <ItsMeLenny> apt-get would probably give me more details about how big this download is
[12:35] <win5hit> i'd like to create a ramdisk within a ubuntu 13.10 desktop 64 booted from usb stick(live). my question is: is ubuntu (live) using a ramdisk? can i use /dev/ram0?
[12:36] <ItsMeLenny> ObrienDave, but it was in tasksel, didnt know their was a screensaver
[12:36] <Abhijit> yash069, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6633943/
[12:36] <win5hit>  (It's not listed under mounted volumes... but there maybe magic somewhere)
[12:36] <ItsMeLenny> and i was afraid spaicebar would somehow cancel it
[12:36] <cvtsx> ok i need a little help ;)
[12:36] <ItsMeLenny> win5hit, are you actually win five hit, or is your name actually how i keep seeing it
[12:37] <ObrienDave> ItsMeLenny, not laughing at you, bud. afaik, there is always a screensaver active until you turn it off
[12:38] <yash069> Abhijit: y u no have swap ?
[12:38] <Tachyon`> hi, does this channel deal with the new ubuntu for android devices or just the more traditional sort?
[12:38] <Abhijit> yash069, rackspace installed all this for me. ddnt asked me for swap.
[12:38] <yash069> you shoud always have a swap partion of 2.5x of ur RAM
[12:38] <ItsMeLenny> ObrienDave, even in terminal?
[12:38] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, Thosr taskse menu's are ncurses Whiptail or Dialog .. I sue them allot for scripts used in CLI env.
[12:38] <ItsMeLenny> there was never one in DOS
[12:39] <ObrienDave> ItsMeLenny, you are NOT running DOS anymore ;P
[12:39] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, helps with those that are truly CLI challenged.
[12:39] <Rory> !touch | Tachyon`
[12:39] <ItsMeLenny> :P
[12:39] <cvtsx> i installed znc (sudo apt-get install znc/precise-backports znc-dbg/precise-backports znc-dev/precise-backports znc-extra/precise-backports znc-perl/precise-backports znc-python/precise-backports znc-tcl/precise-backports) but get this error http://i.imgur.com/8bL5k7V.png
[12:39] <Tachyon`> ah, thankyou
[12:39] <Rory> cvtsx: That's now how you install znc
[12:39] <cvtsx> well not error, just packages arent found
[12:39] <win5hit> ItsMeLenny: hi there, my nick is not ment to be "offensive". it's back from those dasy when u had to boot windows from dos by entering "win"... and if u did something wrong in the config(or drivers e.g. mscdex) it was immediately followed by "shit"... thats all.
[12:40] <ItsMeLenny> ObrienDave, my first computer was DOS, despite the fact of being on linux for quite a few years now, my roots are in DOS, compaq prolinea 1994 windows 3.1
[12:40] <cvtsx> Rory: it didnt find some of the packages though
[12:40] <Rory> cvtsx: Where told you to run that command? Those are package repositories
[12:40] <cfhowlett> !touch|Tachyon`,
[12:40] <tsimpson> cvtsx: did you actually enable backports first?
[12:40] <cvtsx> http://wiki.znc.in/Installation#Ubuntu_12.04
[12:40] <cfhowlett> Tachyon`, this channel is for laptop/desktop installation
[12:40] <ItsMeLenny> win5hit, :P i didnt find it offensive regardless, just curious
[12:40] <cvtsx> tsimposon: nope, i am new to servers and such
[12:40] <cvtsx> how do i do that?
[12:41] <tsimpson> cvtsx: you need to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and either uncomment the lines with precise-backports (if it's there) or add them if not
[12:41] <cvtsx> all i did was c/p that command
[12:41] <win5hit> ItsMeLenny: just to clarify things... ;) i get asked a lot... most expect troll or smthg...
[12:41] <tsimpson> cvtsx: uncomment means remove the leading '#' character
[12:41] <cvtsx> yeah, but how do i access it
[12:42] <win5hit> back to the ramdisk.... i did a lsof | grep /dev/ram... nothing showed up... so i think i can use it?!
[12:42] <tsimpson> cvtsx: you probably have nano installed, so "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list", edit the file and use Ctrl-O to save and Ctrl-X to exit
[12:43] <cvtsx> thanks
[12:43] <yash069> Abhijit: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[12:43] <jamesarnett> Has anyone here ever used bootcamp to load ubuntu on a MacBook Pro
[12:43] <cfhowlett> !mac|jamesarnett,
[12:43] <jamesarnett> Awesome man thanks
[12:44] <jamesarnett> cfhowlett: hahaha yeah but in my defense i bought a 3 month old macbook pro with a warranty for 300
[12:44] <ItsMeLenny> win5hit, i just thought you thought windows was shit, and i probably wouldve agreed :P
[12:44] <SaberX01> Probably gonna be alott of MacDaddy Q's today with all the new toys out there.
[12:44] <Abhijit> yash069, ok
[12:44] <Lucid_Lynx> Hi, how do i reset the gnome-panel ?
[12:44] <cvtsx> tsimpson: The only comments that were there wasnt anything important, just explanations
[12:44] <cvtsx> everything that looked useful was uncommented
[12:45] <Lucid_Lynx> gnome-panel --reset ?
[12:45] <SaberX01> cvtsx, you done an update && upgrade ?
[12:45] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, its finished downloading, 25 minutes later?, guess thats not so bad
[12:45] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, not bad if it works :-)
[12:45] <Lucid_Lynx> man gnome-panel does not mention...
[12:45] <cvtsx> nope saber
[12:46] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, :P if this doesnt work, its your head
[12:46] <cfhowlett> jamesarnett, from what I've read (having not joined the fruity computer club) full support for the new toys lags until the hacks are figured out by the community.
[12:46] <SaberX01> cvtsx, on UBuntu, before installing SW and things, shouls always do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:46] <cvtsx> tsimpson: here ya go http://i.imgur.com/Bs31487.png
[12:46] <cfhowlett> cvtsx, and probably even sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   ^^^
[12:47] <jamesarnett> cfhowlett: Yes i have read the same stuff
[12:47] <cvtsx> saberx01 kk thanks, il keep that in my mind ;)
[12:47] <tsimpson> cvtsx: at the bottom of the image you see lines with precise-backports
[12:47] <tsimpson> uncomment them
[12:47] <jamesarnett> cfhowlett: nice punn!!
[12:47] <cfhowlett> jamesarnett, seems you got a deal ... it fell of a truck?
[12:47] <SaberX01> cvtsx, Update brings your source list up to date, upgrade updates the packages.
[12:47] <jamesarnett> cfhowlett: probably spelt that wrong
[12:47] <cvtsx> k thanks guys
[12:48] <jamesarnett> cfhowlett: i dont think the person knew what they had? they got it for cheap through a school deal
[12:48] <cvtsx> tsimpson: i missed that, thanks
[12:49] <SaberX01> you should be good after enabling bakports .. znc is showing up in the repos
[12:49] <cvtsx> tsimpson: so should i uncomment all those packages?
[12:50] <SaberX01> but you have to to the update before it will show
[12:50] <tsimpson> cvtsx: the two lines with precise-backports, yes
[12:50] <cvtsx> i updated, thanks saber ;)
[12:51] <SaberX01> tsimpson, ap-cache show znc says it's in universe/net ...?
[12:53] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, not hearing any screams from your direction, desktop working?
[12:53] <cvtsx> save it in what format?
[12:53] <tsimpson> SaberX01: universe is the section of the repository the package is in, backports is the repository with the latest version
[12:54] <Lucid_Lynx> k, got it..
[12:54] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, still installing
[12:54] <ItsMeLenny> your safe for another 33% :P
[12:54] <SaberX01> tsimpson, I see, how can I see that on the package info itself ?
[12:54] <cvtsx> http://i.imgur.com/oxBwiXg.png
[12:54] <cvtsx> which one?
[12:55] <SaberX01> hit enter
[12:55] <cvtsx> xD
[12:55] <ItsMeLenny> ObrienDave, screensavers scared me 3 times now :P
[12:55] <tsimpson> SaberX01: if you look at "apt-cache policy znc" it should list all the versions and repositories
[12:55] <cvtsx> now should i try and reinstall znc? i have updated and added backports
[12:56] <SaberX01> tsimpson, rr thanks will ahve a look
[12:56] <ObrienDave> ItsMeLenny, LOL ;)
[12:57] <ObrienDave> ItsMeLenny, my 1st computer was a C-64 ;P
[12:57] <ItsMeLenny> what kind of chip was in that? a dorito
[12:57] <ObrienDave> 6502 iirc
[12:57] <ArchSurf> lol
[12:57] <cvtsx> damn, my first was an imac g3
[12:58] <SaberX01> tsimpson, yup that shows it clearly .. backport is 1.0.2 ..
[12:58] <SaberX01> TRS-80 wiht a big ole Tape Drive and Dual Floppoes, thought I was top of the rock then.
[12:58] <ObrienDave> ItsMeLenny, I had a FORTRAN programming class in 1971. we used REAL punched cards. ROFL
[12:58] <SaberX01> and HP-920 to that was cools.
[12:59] <cvtsx> my first was an imac g3 but thats after they were discontuned for 3 years
[12:59] <SaberX01> ObrienDave, you was around then wiht the 8080 Xe's and such.
[12:59] <SaberX01> big ole 10" / 12" floppy's :-)
[12:59] <ObrienDave> oh yea, i remember when they were brand new :)
[13:00] <ObrienDave> 8" floppies
[13:00] <SaberX01> Yeah somethign like that, jsut rememebr they were huge
[13:01] <ObrienDave> 140K on a floppy. iirc
[13:02] <SaberX01> Im trying to remember the first DB I wrote .. was a weather collection DB written in Dbase-1 or II can't recall which.
[13:02] <ItsMeLenny> ObrienDave, anything interesting that you programmed on those punch cards?
[13:02] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, it finished! now what?
[13:02] <SaberX01> I'd reboot.
[13:02] <ObrienDave> na, i was a freshman in high school then
[13:02] <SaberX01> then when the desktop comes up .. open xterm and if you want, dist-upgrade
[13:03] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, will it boot straight in, or do i have to do startx
[13:03] <SaberX01> Shoutl boot to lightdm
[13:03] <SaberX01> login screen
[13:03] <ItsMeLenny> what is dist-upgrade for?
[13:03] <SaberX01> Upgrades the Kernel to the latest 12.04.3 Kernel
[13:04] <ItsMeLenny> oh
[13:04] <ItsMeLenny> WOOT! no more purple ubuntu screen
[13:04] <ItsMeLenny> that's a releif
[13:04] <ObrienDave> I use dist-updrade always
[13:04] <neongas> Is it possible to just put entire .deb packages in incoming directory of reprepro? I don't have the .changes files for the packages I want to add.
[13:04] <SaberX01> whish is like 3.5.0-44 or there abouts.
[13:04] <ItsMeLenny> omg so beautiful! this was when unity was a bit better, more responsive
[13:04] <ObrienDave> *dist-upgrade
[13:05] <cvtsx> ok i am stuck, i tried doing what tsimp said and i am still not getting it to work
[13:05] <SaberX01> ObrienDave, I dont, I do the upgrades first, then, selectively upgrade the kernels, and read on any critical issues first normally.
[13:06] <cvtsx> if this means anything i did cntrl+s after i uncommented those packages
[13:06] <ObrienDave> not me, dang the torpedos, full steam ahead!
[13:06] <SaberX01> LOL
[13:06] <XATRIX> Hi, i want to copy /etc/corosync/authkey to another server, i do sudo /etc/corosync/authkey vox2-ua:/etc/corosync
[13:06] <XATRIX> it asks me a root password
[13:06] <XATRIX> Which one should i specify ?
[13:06] <SaberX01> cvtsx, easy way to use Nano: open the file, edit, Ctrl+x .. then Y to save.
[13:07] <cvtsx> k will cntrl+s do anything?
[13:07] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, does update manager update the kernels anyway?
[13:07] <ObrienDave> update manager will from GUI
[13:07] <SaberX01> I don't think so. Synaptic Upd Manager does .
[13:08] <ItsMeLenny> omg, what is the server password D=
[13:08] <SaberX01> I take that back, depends on yoru selections. I never use it, so not up on all the optins really.
[13:08] <ObrienDave> apt-get update will not do kernels from CLI
[13:08] <ItsMeLenny> ah
[13:08] <cvtsx> brb in 2 mins
[13:08] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, You get booted into UB Desktop ?
[13:09] <cvtsx> also still not found ;( and i uncommented everything although i proabably shouldnt have
[13:09] <cvtsx> anyways to revert back to default?
[13:09] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, yeah
[13:09] <ItsMeLenny> but the root password isnt my password
[13:09] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny,  :-) ok .. Im off the hook now .. lol
[13:09] <SaberX01> you shoudl not be using root
[13:09] <ItsMeLenny> lol yes you are, thank you very much
[13:10] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, im not, but when i want to...
[13:10] <ItsMeLenny> when i want to gksu something
[13:10] <SaberX01> 99.999 of the time is sudo
[13:10] <ObrienDave> ItsMeLenny, use sudo, it's much safer
[13:10] <ItsMeLenny> but when i gksu nautilus
[13:10] <ItsMeLenny> or what not
[13:10] <SaberX01> ok, there's a difference between sudo and root, dont use root.
[13:10] <ItsMeLenny> i was told always use gksu for gui stuff
[13:10] <ItsMeLenny> oh
[13:11] <SaberX01> gksu is sudo, that's ok.
[13:11] <cvtsx> SaberX01: anyways to revert to default?
[13:11] <SaberX01> you can leave backports uncommented, did you do an update after saving your source list?
[13:12] <manish_> Hello everybody
[13:12] <cvtsx> yeah still didnt get anything lool
[13:12] <cfhowlett> manish_, greetings
[13:12] <cvtsx> i would like to just start off clean and retry
[13:12] <SaberX01> that's very odd, as it's in the standard repos as well.
[13:12] <cvtsx> do everything correctly this time
[13:12] <ObrienDave> clean, as in repos?
[13:13] <cvtsx> clean install
[13:13] <ItsMeLenny> gotta install my nvidia drivers
[13:13] <SaberX01> maybe, but trt: sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get clean
[13:13] <SaberX01> then sudo apt-get update
[13:13] <cvtsx> what will that do?
[13:14] <SaberX01> clean downloaded files, clean your apt-cache, and update the cache list again
[13:14] <cfhowlett> cvtsx, and apt-get autoremove
[13:14] <SaberX01> that gets rid of uneeded dep files
[13:14] <cvtsx> well saber i am just worried because i kinda uncommented some stuff i am pretty sure i shouldnt have
[13:14] <siwica> how do I format a usb drive?
[13:14] <siwica> (command line)
[13:15] <ice9> only Nautilus window title bar disappeared, how to fix it?
[13:15] <cvtsx> i just want to format then start right
[13:15] <SaberX01> cfhowlett, maybe you cna help, he tryign to install znc but it's not being found.
[13:15] <ItsMeLenny> on reboot my computer froze in the bios, why does that happen
[13:15] <manish_> siwica: try sudo mkfs.vfat -v /dev/<sd?>
[13:15] <manish_> siwica: where /dev/sdx is your device node
[13:15] <ItsMeLenny> and now on boot my computer just randomly rebooted
[13:15] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, that Im not sure about.
[13:16] <cfhowlett> SaberX01, worst case: go to the package site, grab the deb and dpkg -i
[13:16] <ItsMeLenny> must be the power in this house, the motherboard is meant to have expensive caps
[13:16] <ItsMeLenny> maybe its the power supply actually
[13:16] <SaberX01> You may have some hardware issues there somwhere... maybe PSU glitch or something?
[13:17] <cfhowlett> ItsMeLenny, random reboots are a sign of potential serious issue.  suggest you devote some effort to the fixing thereof
[13:17] <SaberX01> cfhowlett, Is not me is cvtsx needs it, is what we're trying to get done fer him.
[13:17] <ItsMeLenny> i originally had an expensive corsair power supply which blew up, and the shop replaced it under warranty with a different brand for one half the value, an antec i think, which are still good, but
[13:17] <cvtsx> i am pretty sure i (you) got it. THANKS ;)
[13:18] <cvtsx> installed (pretty sure) ;)
[13:18] <ItsMeLenny> cfhowlett, yeah but sometimes they never happen, replaced my seagates multiple times as they had bad sectors, now on WD, but when it doesnt even get to the HDD musnt be it, on top of that theres issues with the power in this house
[13:18] <SaberX01> Cool !
[13:18] <cvtsx> how to set up znc is the question now ;)
[13:18] <cfhowlett> ItsMeLenny, get a good surge suppressor sounds like ...
[13:18] <ObrienDave> ^^^ agrees
[13:19] <ice9> nautilus and settings windows border are broken like this one: http://askubuntu.com/questions/362247/nautilus-header-bar-missing-ubuntu-gnome-13-10-gnome-3-10
[13:19] <ItsMeLenny> that might be a good idea
[13:20] <ItsMeLenny> theyve screwed up nautilus in the latest ubuntu, and the disk utiltiy
[13:20] <SaberX01> cvtsx, to test if a package is installed, couple simple one liners:  dpkg -s <packagename> or dpkg-query -l <packagename>
[13:20] <SaberX01> You can get allot more fancy, but that's a quick one.
[13:21] <cvtsx> what would be the package name?
[13:22] <SaberX01> cvtsx, Example: dpkg -s znc
[13:22] <SaberX01> or dpkg-query -l znc
[13:22] <cvtsx> lol k i put znc in between the '<>'
[13:22] <cvtsx> thats why i was getting an error
[13:23] <cvtsx> do you got any resources to learn cmd line for ubuntu?
[13:23] <SaberX01> cvtsx, here's install & config info: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-install-znc-an-irc-bouncer-on-an-ubuntu-vps
[13:23] <SaberX01> !manual | cvsx
[13:23] <SaberX01> Has a good entry level sectoin and a more advanced section.
[13:23] <cvtsx> thanks saber ;)
[13:25] <solarradiation> how do i adjust my usb hard drive's time-before-spinning down?
[13:25] <cfhowlett> cvtsx, "the linux command line" and "the ubuntu pocket guide" are free .pdf
[13:25] <cvtsx> il check them out, thanks
[13:26] <ice9> the global menu items are inactive, in all applications
[13:26] <SaberX01> There's lots of them ... bash and CLI abound these days.
[13:27] <Rory> solarradiation: Take a look at "hdparm" - "sudo hdparm -I /dev/sdb | grep level" will show you the current spin-down time for /dev/sdb
[13:27] <Rory> solarradiation: more info here http://askubuntu.com/a/39764
[13:27] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, Ok you all up and running .. and cvtsx on his way, Im gonna go catch a nap, Ho Ho Ho stuff starting here soon, CUAL
[13:28] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, certainly am, it feels more stable than regular desktop, that might be a placebo, and thats besides the couple of freezes but that was in bios
[13:28] <ItsMeLenny> thanks so much, i have a tonne of installing to do, have to put cinnamon on, as much as i have tried i really cant stand unity
[13:29] <ItsMeLenny> i like some of its features, and hate others, it was better in 12.04, they messed it up a little
[13:29] <solis> So I finally managed to get my dota2 to work(theres some bug apparently so cant run it in fullscreen) and now my issue is that the
[13:29] <yyyyyyyy> jj
[13:29] <solis> 'bar' at the top for the OS pushes down the game outside of the monitor, anyone know how to fix?
[13:29] <cvtsx> c ya saber
[13:30] <cvtsx> and thanks man
[13:30] <ItsMeLenny> i think i'll stay with default wine this time, instead of ppa wine
[13:30] <yyyyyyyy> hi
[13:30] <ItsMeLenny> yyyyyyyy, allo
[13:30] <zxd> hi
[13:31] <yyyyyyyy> hllo
[13:31] <yyyyyyyy> heloo
[13:31] <yyyyyyyy> hello
[13:31] <Darryl> Marry Christmas everyone.
[13:31] <ObrienDave> Merry Krishna, Bah Humbug, and all that ;P
[13:32] <Darryl> I ment Merry sorry for typing error.
[13:32] <Darryl> XD
[13:34] <XATRIX> Can i use sudo -s to use constant root environment while i setup the sever ?
[13:34] <siwica> manish_: thank you. I always get either "/dev/sdb: No medium found" or "mkfs.vfat: unable to open /dev/sdb1: Device or resource busy" though
[13:34] <XATRIX> After i finish i'll use sudo as a usual
[13:36] <BluesKaj> Merry Christmas to all !
[13:37] <Rory> !humbug
[13:37] <Rory> aww
[13:38] <ItsMeLenny> gotta switch all my fonts to courier 10 pitch
[13:38] <BluesKaj> Bah ,too bad for you , Rory :)
[13:38] <ItsMeLenny> BluesKaj, my christmas just ended
[13:39] <BluesKaj> bbiab
[13:39] <cvtsx> how to format to a clean install in ubuntu 12.04?
[13:39] <cvtsx> idc if i loose data
[13:39] <ItsMeLenny> cvtsx, just reinstall?
[13:40] <cfhowlett> cvtsx, choose partition, choose format (ext4) and format away
[13:40] <cvtsx> on a server, i am using a putty
[13:40] <hitsujiTMO> cvtsx: you need to start the reinstall from your providers control panel
[13:40] <cvtsx> ok thanks
[13:45] <XATRIX> Also, why when i do sudo reboot, my Ubuntu 13 shuts down my server ?
[13:45] <XATRIX> It doesn't restart , it halts the server
[13:48] <Balzy> XATRIX could be something related to BIOS power settings?
[13:48] <XATRIX> Balzy: What kind of ?
[13:48] <Balzy> it's quite a strange behavior
[13:48] <XATRIX> Sure
[13:48] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, thanks again for your help, im off to bed, got a big day tomorrow installing more and more files
[13:49] <ItsMeLenny> and thanks to anyone else who chipped in
[13:49] <XATRIX> Ubuntu on my laptop, doesn't even restart my PC, hangs after "* Will halt now"
[13:49] <cvtsx> how do i look for directories through command line?
[13:49] <cvtsx> ubuntu 12.04
[13:50] <Balzy> never had such a problem, look for something related to restoring power, mine has an option to set the behavior after a power loss, maybe something like that
[13:52] <Balzy> Or it could be linux's fault, not recognising the hardware properly/sending the wrong signal
[13:52] <Balzy> you should wait for someone more expert
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> Balzy  try          sudo init 6        to reboot
[13:53] <Balzy> MonkeyDust it's XATRIX who's asking ;)
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> XATRIX   try          sudo init 6        to reboot
[13:54] <cvtsx> what is this doing on my vps? I installed znc and this was under one of the znc directories
[13:54] <cvtsx> "/etc/ssl/certs/Wells_Fargo_Root_CA.pem"
[13:57] <djtorr3> MERRY CHRISTMAS UBUNTU USERS
[13:57] <cvtsx> merry christmas (even though your a few hours late)
[13:58] <djtorr3> 1 hour to go for christmas here
[13:58] <brownfox> any one get Ubuntu swag for Christmas this year???
[13:58] <cvtsx> Anyways anyone know how to format a ubuntu vps through command line? I want a fresh install
[13:58] <cvtsx> dj where you at?
[13:58] <coku> apo ellada kaneis?
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> !gr
[13:59] <cvtsx> hmm europe
[13:59] <cvtsx> im not one for the holidays though
[14:00] <djtorr3> cvtsx, Korea
[14:00] <cvtsx> o
[14:00] <djtorr3> brownfox, no, but i got an ultrabook i'm gonna dual boot to Ubuntu on
[14:01] <coku> pos alazo room?
[14:01] <cvtsx> is xmas big in Korea? (assuming your not a USA serviceman)
[14:01] <cvtsx> what kind of ultraboot?
[14:01] <cvtsx> And i guess you guys do got Catholics in Korea, right?
[14:01] <djtorr3> cvtsx, I'm US, christmas is soso.  it's not as big in the US with the christmas giving
[14:02] <djtorr3> cvtsx, I got an ASUS book, i'll see if i can't find it
[14:02] <BluesKaj> !gr | coku
[14:02] <cvtsx> o nice i like ultrabooks
[14:02] <brownfox> I got a lenovo ultrabook last year... heck of a time getting it to dual boot. But it's my understanding that it was that particular model
[14:03] <BluesKaj> lenovo here as well, had to use legacy mode
[14:04] <brownfox> @BluesKaj it dawns on me that after all of this I should have used Wubi
[14:04] <djtorr3> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834231116
[14:04] <djtorr3> thats the book i got
[14:05] <BluesKaj> djtorr3, i removed w8 , and repartitioned for ntfs, ext4 and swap
[14:06] <BluesKaj> brownfox, wubi  is not worth the trouble , a vm maybe ,but i'm partial to dual booting
[14:06] <djtorr3> BluesKaj, i thought about removing W8, but my desktop has windows 8 too, so i decided to keep it so that I can work with my desktop
[14:08] <backbox> hi
[14:08] <backbox> clear
[14:08] <backbox> hi
[14:08] <backbox> hello
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> backbox  it works, we see you
[14:08] <cbh2> hi
[14:09] <BluesKaj> gj i\m sure there's a method to install ub8ntu beside w8 , but I went with W7 which is much simpler to install ...not a w8 fan anyway
[14:09] <BluesKaj> djtorr3,^
[14:10] <cfhowlett_> cbh2, greetings
[14:10] <BluesKaj> err ubuntu :)
[14:10] <LvMises> Is the mail tab at the top right of Ubuntu 12.04 supposed to give me any indication when I have a new mail in my inbox or do I have to manually check each time in Thunderbird?  It's linked and when I click it and select Mail it launches thunderbird
[14:12] <solis> What to do when a few of the system settings icons have disappeared? (auto start and audio settings)
[14:16] <djtorr3> i dont mind w8
[14:16] <djtorr3> a lot of haters, but tbh it's grown on me
[14:16] <djtorr3> but to be fair i removed a lot of features that w8 introduced
[14:28] <BluesKaj> djtorr3, the classic shell makes the desktop and start button/apps more manageable
[14:32] <stephan66> First of all: Happy holidays to all
[14:34] <BluesKaj> Merry Christmas, stephan66
[14:34] <stephan66> After a ~recent update of a 12.04 install the Broadcom BCM4313 Wifi connection stopped working. Is ther someone her eable to explain why and how I can fix it?
[14:35] <stephan66> Hi BluesKaj
[14:35] <Lucid_Lynx> NTRS..
[14:36] <cfhowlett_> stephan, probably got a kernel upgrade and the wifi driver didn't take to it
[14:37] <BluesKaj> stephan66, sudo modprobe b43
[15:05] <OerHeks> Yes.
[15:22] <bartek_> ktos z polski?;p
[15:22] <Myrtti> !pl | bartek_
[15:27] <cvtsx> how do i format a drive in ubuntu command line?
[15:28] <Hydr0p0nX> mkfs
[15:31] <yto> my wifi laptop doesnt work in ubuntu. plz help me?
[15:32] <Hydr0p0nX> what doesn't work ?
[15:33] <solis> How do I install the 32bit packages? :o (for my amd radeon card)
[15:33] <Your_Dog> merry christmas guys, is there a way to use additional drivers via command line?
[15:34] <mbroeker> Your_Dog, just use "jockey-text"
[15:34] <yto> my wireless card of laptop doesnt work. help me
[15:34] <Your_Dog> ah, thank you.
[15:35] <Hydr0p0nX> is there a 3.11 kernel for 12.04.3 ?
[15:35] <Hydr0p0nX> or just the generic, mainline ?
[15:36] <mbroeker> Hydr0p0nX, the current kernel for 12.04.3 is 3.8
[15:37] <Hydr0p0nX> thought so ... the current 3.8 builds don't support my hdmi audio out
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> Hydr0p0nX  you can install a newer kernel, 3.12 is also available
[15:37] <Hydr0p0nX> 3.11.10 fixed it
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> Hydr0p0nX  but... know what you're doing
[15:37] <Hydr0p0nX> i learned on slackware 4 :)
[15:38] <Hydr0p0nX> and i'll probably end up testing and upgrading to 14.04 when it is released
[15:39] <cristian_c> Hi
[15:39] <yto> my wireless card of laptop doesnt work. help me
[15:39] <cristian_c> I installed qt4-qtconfig. When I open the qt configuration tool, I change the font type and size. Then I select File-> Save, and the string 'Saved changes.' appears in the statusbar
[15:39] <deadmund> yto: I'm here!
[15:39] <deadmund> yto: Have you tried anything?  What card do you have?
[15:39] <afidegnum> hello, pls I have ./bitcoind script installed in /root/src/      how do I add it to $PATH so i can call the script directly without going to the folder ?
[15:40] <cristian_c> But if I close and reopen the configuration tool, I find the previous settings, as if I had not made ​​any changes
[15:40] <deadmund> afidegnum: The prudent way it to sylink it or put it in /usr/local/bin
[15:40] <deadmund> symlink*
[15:40] <XATRIX> Where can i swtich my current MPM for apache2 ?
[15:40] <spence> Happy Holidays!
[15:41] <XATRIX> I wanna move from event to worker mpm
[15:41] <afidegnum> ok
[15:41] <somsip> XATRIX: what version of apache2?
[15:41] <cristian_c> How can I solve this problem?
[15:41] <MonkeyDust> what's mpm
[15:41] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[15:41] <XATRIX> Apache/2.4.6 (Ubuntu)
[15:41] <XATRIX> Server MPM:     event
[15:41] <XATRIX>   threaded:     yes (fixed thread count)
[15:41] <XATRIX>     forked:     yes (variable process count)
[15:41] <deadmund> yto: You there?
[15:42] <yto> deadmund, yes atheros
[15:42] <somsip> XATRIX: sudo a2enmod worker might be a starting point. Probably disable event too.
[15:42] <deadmund> yto: What chipset specifically?  What have you tried?
[15:43] <XATRIX> root@vox1-ua:~# a2enmod worker
[15:43] <XATRIX> ERROR: Module worker does not exist!
[15:43] <somsip> XATRIX: is it in /etc/apache2/mods-available ?
[15:43] <yto> deadmund, i dont know, how to find?
[15:43] <XATRIX> mpm_worker
[15:43] <deadmund> yto: sudo lspci -k (and look for the wireless card) if you listed drivers / modules that would be great too :)
[15:44] <deadmund> yto: If you're unsure, post it here: paste.ubuntu.com and let me look at it
[15:45] <XATRIX> yes, i've done with it
[15:45] <cvtsx> how do i format a hard drive through command line?
[15:45] <cvtsx> i want a fresh install
[15:45] <somsip> !info mkfs | cvtsx
[15:45] <cvtsx> ?
[15:45] <somsip> cvtsx: well, use an ISO and resintall then
[15:45] <cvtsx> ehh its a vps
[15:46] <gvo> cvtsx fresh install of the OS?
[15:46] <cvtsx> and i dont see an option on the cp
[15:46] <cvtsx> yes i installed some stuff i want off
[15:46] <deadmund> cvtsx: You can use mkfs and fdisk but it's probably easier to use the installer (disc or usb) to reinstall.  it has an option to re-format / erase the harddrive.
  is there like a debug mode for jockey-text?
[15:46] <mbroeker> XATRIX, install apache2-mpm-worker or apache2-mpm-event :)
[15:46] <cvtsx> deadmund: its a amazon vps
[15:46] <somsip> cvtsx: recreate from the correct AMI then
[15:47] <mbroeker> Your_Dog, /var/log/jockey.log
[15:47] <cvtsx> somsip: how?
[15:47] <cvtsx> please, i am new to vps
[15:47] <deadmund> cvtsx: so no gui at all?
[15:47] <somsip> cvtsx: you're referring to Amazon EC2 yes?
[15:47] <Your_Dog> ah ok thanks
[15:47] <cvtsx> no gui
[15:47] <cvtsx> somsip yes
[15:47] <XATRIX> mbroeker: i have both, worker haven't disabled event
[15:47] <yto> deadmund, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6634651/
[15:47] <cvtsx> i can terminate it but id rather reformat
[15:48] <cvtsx> no option on the cp
[15:48] <somsip> cvtsx: you have the wrong idea about how EC2 works. Best to find some basic guides and read up on it. Amazon have lots of docs, help and manuals
[15:48] <deadmund> yto: see the section called "Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. Device 0036 (rev 01)" ??
[15:49] <yto> deadmund, yes
[15:49] <deadmund> yto: That's the wifi card.  See how there are no drivers or kernel modules for it?  That's bad.  Can you run sudo rfkill list and tell me what it says?
[15:49] <cvtsx> ok, why wont it work? then should i just get a new vps?
[15:49] <somsip> cvtsx: http://is.gd/qyP2cJ
[15:49] <yto> deadmund, ok
[15:50] <cvtsx> so just make a new instance?
[15:51] <somsip> cvtsx: yes
[15:51] <cvtsx> ok
[15:51] <yto> deadmund, don't show anything
[15:51] <cvtsx> i have made 4 already ;(
[15:51] <cvtsx> i am trying to install znc on it
[15:51] <somsip> cvtsx: read the guide on easier ways to make multiple instances.
[15:52] <cvtsx> but keep messing up
[15:52] <somsip> cvtsx: take an image before you install something that is likely to mess up
[15:52] <cvtsx> good idea
[15:52] <cvtsx> idk why i wasnt doing it before
[15:53] <deadmund> yto: What do you mean?
[15:53] <mbroeker> XATRIX, uninstall apache2-mpm-event to enable mpm-worker
[15:53] <deadmund> yto: It just returns without printing anything??
[15:53] <XATRIX> ok, thanks
[15:53] <yto> deadmund, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6634688/
[15:54] <deadmund> yto: Ahh, it only lists your bluetooth but not your wifi...
[15:54] <deadmund> yto: weird...  hang on
[15:54] <PatrickDickey> Morning everyone. :) I'm having a problem with my wireless connection. If I boot normally, NetworkManager crashes, so I have no wireless or wired network at all. But, if I boot in Recovery Mode, and click on Networking, it loads up. Then I can resume a normal boot, and have my wireless. Any suggestions on how to fix this?
[15:55] <deadmund> yto: Is this a USB wifi dongle?
[15:55] <deadmund> yto: Is it listed in sudo lsusb  ?
[15:57] <mbroeker> XATRIX, the config file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf has three major blocks for the three workers. you can comment out a block there, too. But uninstalling is much easier.
[15:57] <somsip> mbroeker: he's on 2.4 Are you sure that's the same for 2.4? I understood the modules were part of core install and had to be enabled/disabled with the varioud .conf files being picked up through that
[15:57] <yto> deadmund, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6634705/
[15:58] <deadmund> yto: very weird...
[15:58] <deadmund> yto: Can you sudo modprobe ath9k      ?
[15:58] <deadmund> yto: sudo iwlist scan  to see if wireless networks are found
[15:59] <mbroeker> somsip, oh, i am on apache 2.2 on 12.04. I am not sure about 2.4 :)
[16:00] <somsip> mbroeker: aha. I've only used 2.4 on 14.04 so maybe it is different again for current, but your advice looked like 2.2. XATRIX, you may need to review
[16:00] <yto> deadmund, output is: interface doesnt support scanning.
[16:01] <XATRIX> Ok, thanks a lot
[16:01] <deadmund> yto: What interface doesn't support scanning?  The bluetooth?
[16:02] <yto> deadmund, i dont know. my bluetooth is turn on
[16:04] <yto> deadmund, can i update my kernel?
[16:04] <deadmund> yto: I'm not sure what is wrong.  I don't think I can help! :(
[16:04] <deadmund> yto: You can try.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1872537  What version of ubuntu / kernel are you currently on?
[16:05] <c0d30> #happyhahhpy holiday every one ..
[16:06] <yto> deadmund, kernel: 2.6.38 and ubuntu 11.04
[16:06] <deadmund> yto: Whoa!  Old version of everything.  Update to 12.04 at least (which is long term) or 13.10 which is the newest version.  This will probably solve the problem.  These wifi/bluetooth cards weren't very common on 2011 and linux didn't really support them back then.
[16:07] <deadmund> Linux 3.x has been out for over a year now!
[16:07] <xangua> !eol | yto
[16:09] <yto> deadmund, ok but in ubuntu 12.04 or 13.04 my laptop freeze on ubuntu logo screen and cant shutdown!
[16:09] <deadmund> yto: really?  It won't turn off?  We can probably fix that once you have it installed.
[16:11] <yto> deadmund, really? install ubuntu 12.04 or 13.10? what you suggest?
[16:12] <deadmund> yto: when it freezes, press ctrl + alt + f1 (and the other f keys as well).  They will switch to cli terminals and one of them will probably have error messages.  Also, try shutting down using sudo shutdown -h now and see if the problem persists
[16:13] <yto> deadmund, test sudo shutdown -h now and -P. but my problem not solved.
[16:13] <deadmund> yto: What?  How do you know, you haven't installed the newer version yet.
[16:15] <yto> deadmund, i install all version of ubuntu and my shutdown problem solved only in ubuntu 11.04 and in this i cant install wifi and  i am confused:D
[16:16] <deadmund> yto: In my opinion, the shutdown issue will be much easier to solve then the wifi problem.
[16:17] <deadmund> yto: plus, running a version that is past EOL is not the best idea.
[16:17] <yto> deadmund, OK i install ubuntu 13.10. how to find you to solve my shutdown problem?
[16:18] <deadmund> yto: that was fast but ok.  when the system freezes switch to ttyX (ctrl + alt + F1 and try the other F keys as well)
[16:18] <vinceableworld> hello
[16:18] <WeThePeople> so " sudo /opt/lampp/lampp start " command was not found any ideas?
[16:19] <OerHeks> yto maybe your shutdown problem is solved in 13.10 too
[16:19] <vinceableworld> Can someone assist me in the finishing touches to getting this bitcoin wallet installed from the unzipped package? I've done the best I can on my own... a little help would be appreciated :)
[16:19] <yto> deadmund, OK.
[16:20] <mbroeker> vinceableworld, do you need to compile it from source?
[16:20] <vinceableworld> no...
[16:20] <mbroeker> vinceableworld, it's a binary package?
[16:20] <deadmund> yto: Let me know what you find
[16:20] <vinceableworld> it's "bitcoin-0.8.6-linux"
[16:21] <vinceableworld> So not sure sorry trying to get acclimated to linux here...
[16:21] <vinceableworld> I've not gone back to windows in over a week.
[16:21] <newcomer> hi all
[16:22] <vinceableworld> I can cd to the file... find it... perhaps I don't know the right commands...
[16:22] <mbroeker> vinceableworld, i have taken a look at their webpage and found an ubuntu ppa and a tar.gz ball
[16:22] <vinceableworld> k..?
[16:22] <newcomer> question , is there any command to see what packages i have installed like gflrx kinda, which r easy to forget names ?
[16:22] <newcomer> i mean hard to remember their spelling sometimes
[16:23] <vinceableworld> I already downloaded - I believe the tar.gz perhaps and extracted it to my "downloads" folder
[16:23] <mbroeker> newcomer, open a terminal and enter dpkg -l | grep fglrx
[16:23] <newcomer> what will that do ?
[16:24] <mbroeker> newcomer, dpkg -l lists all installed packages and grep <text> searches for the string <text> :)
[16:24] <newcomer> oh i got it thanx ;)
[16:24] <OerHeks> newcomer, install synaptic for easy searching the repositorys
[16:25] <newcomer> i have troubles with fglrx cant login sometimes and have to do it with alt+f1 and reboot to get my gui
[16:27] <newcomer> i wanted to install cgminer , but it uninstalled my fglrx-updates and fglrx-amdcccle-updates and then couldnt get in ubuntu , reinstalled them with alt+f1 term but cgminer got auto uninstalled
[16:27] <Ycarene> is there a way to set rdp to show my primary desktop instead of starting a new session?
[16:27] <AndyBotwin> Ìû
[16:29] <mbroeker> vinceableworld, it's easy: unpack the tarball and move the entire folder to /opt/
[16:30] <newcomer> do u have any miner program to suggest while using 1600fsb-p45-3.4Ghz Quad-8Gb ram-small ati hd5450 and without having to uninstall the -updates from amd cause the machine doesnt work without them ?
[16:31] <mbroeker> vinceableworld, after that, ln -s /opt/bitcoin*/bin/64/* /usr/local/bin # for a 64 bit system
[16:31] <newcomer> im using ubuntu studio 13.10
[16:31] <newcomer> ill check it mbroeker  thanx
[16:31] <newcomer> oh
[16:36] <Guest38306> NH! I need help I have selected LVM for installation and i wanted to resize the partitiion but wasn't able to with GPArted. I have unmount and attempt to resize.
[16:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Feliĉa Kristnasko!
[16:42] <newcomer> for ubuntu do i need the bz2 or the lrz installer of a program ?
[16:43] <SchrodingersScat> newcomer: I thought those were just different compression
[16:44] <MoL0ToV> hi to all! where i cn find info to arm/samsung mobile phones ubuntu porting?
[16:44] <iceroot> MoL0ToV: #ubuntu-arm
[16:44] <MoL0ToV> thx
[16:44] <iceroot> MoL0ToV: and maybe #ubuntu-phone
[16:44] <andyfied> Guest38306: have you tried to do anything from the terminal?
[16:45] <loll2> njr
[16:45] <loll2> bjr
[16:45] <andyfied> Guest38306: like maybe this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1537569
[16:46] <Guest38306> andyfied, i haven't tried, let me see
[16:46] <loll2> quelqu'un en français
[16:46] <rcw2> what program will allow me to select usb as a device to install an iso onto.  k3b doesn't seem to have that feature
[16:46] <rcw2> bootable iso*
[16:47] <bazhang> loll2, #ubuntu-fr
[16:47] <bazhang> rcw2, unetbootin for one
[16:47] <loll2> yes
[16:48] <loll2>  tank you
[16:54] <Lucid_Lynx> man sort
[16:57] <acovrig> I am trying to install ubuntu from a network install CD (the standard iso won't fit on my CDs).  When booting the installer the if is up, but once I get to the network autoconfig the main if goes down and doesn't come back up (therefore configuration fails), why?
[16:58] <acovrig> and how can I get around this given there is no ifconfig, ifup, or ifdown?
[16:58] <popsch> hi. I can't mount a usb drive. I already gave my account the permissions under system -> users -> permissions; when I click on mount, I still get 'not authorized'; I rebooted since setting the permissions; I can mount the usb drive as root
[17:03] <demon^eye> i got some fonts issue
[17:03] <demon^eye> eho can help me?
[17:03] <demon^eye> who*
[17:04] <demon^eye> ?
[17:04] <Czupa> Could you show error message or something?
[17:04] <demon^eye> i got bad fonts for local lang i use
[17:04] <demon^eye> and that no english
[17:04] <vmusr> demon^eye, just state what is your problem, and if someone can help you they'll write
[17:05] <demon^eye> how can i set in ubuntu what called in windows "none uni code font" ?
[17:05] <AJVFox> Hey everyone. Wondering if anyone has suggestions on a solid gihub client with a clean and well laid out gui
[17:06] <Czupa> demon^eye What font are you using?
[17:06] <demon^eye> hebrew
[17:06] <demon^eye> i mean , i am using sec lang "hebrew" along side english
[17:07] <ClientAlive> I'm just getting started with postgres bc I need to build a database for my business. Do I need the server in order to create a database?
[17:07] <demon^eye> when i open a TXT file all hebrew look gibrish
[17:07] <demon^eye> but i have hebrew
[17:07] <Kablam> guys question whats the diffren between ln -d and ln -s symlink versus hardlink?
[17:07] <demon^eye> i can write in hebrew
[17:08] <acovrig> interesting: I can't get any of my ethernet interfaces to come up in the installer (they show up, but are down and there is no ifup command), yet the wifi works...
[17:08] <mbroeker> ClientAlive, sure, postgesql-server is the server and the client connects to any server on any network on any machine :)
[17:09] <Czupa> demon^eye Have you tried other text editors?
[17:10] <mbroeker> ClientAlive, to start with it, install pgadmin3 and phppgadmin
[17:10] <demon^eye> czupa : some time files in hebrew i d.l the name apear in gibrish
[17:10] <demon^eye> and also some TXT file  i open
[17:10] <demon^eye> i need 2 know where to set "none uni code " like in windows
[17:11] <demon^eye> this option sort it all up in windows
[17:11] <demon^eye> מישהוא מדבר פה עברית ?
[17:12] <michagogo|cloud> I have a DigitalOcean vps that I spin up occasionally, for miscellaneous tasks
[17:12] <michagogo|cloud> When I try to shut it down, something goes wrong
[17:12] <M1C4HTRON13> if I move and resize a boot partition is it easy to get it to boot again afterwards?
[17:13] <michagogo|cloud> I've tried with `sudo halt` and `sudo shutdown -h now`
[17:13] <Czupa> demon^eye https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HebrewLocalizationHowto that might be helpful
[17:14] <Meerkat> demon^eye, open your text file and choose "save as". What is the character encoding set to?
[17:14] <michagogo|cloud> Nothing that I do appears to do anything
[17:14] <demon^eye> letme see ... czupa i will look into there also
[17:14] <michagogo|cloud> Either way, it ends up apparently shut down, nothing on the network interface (no ssh,etc) and nothing on the virtual console
[17:15] <michagogo|cloud> Anyone have any ideas as to the possible reason?
[17:15] <XATRIX> Guys, how can i enable more advanced error reporting, i'm using apache 2.4.6 + fcgid + php5.5
[17:15] <michagogo|cloud> Hm, one message got eaten by a connection loss -- I also said that its status remains "running" and not "shut down".
[17:15] <XATRIX> My website gives me 500 error. But default error log and my custom one doesn't indicate any errors
[17:15] <demon^eye> meerkat : its set to westran
[17:16] <demon^eye> *western
[17:16] <Meerkat> demon^eye, try UTF-8. Just guessing, but it might help.
[17:16] <demon^eye> let me see :D
[17:16] <aaa801> anyone know why distcc isn't finding a file that is in PATH and DISTCC_PATH ?
[17:16] <aaa801> http://i.imgur.com/RABmbkK.png
[17:17] <demon^eye> meetkat : my TXT file hebs charecters look gibrish that my issue
[17:17] <demon^eye> from there i need to go on
[17:17] <demon^eye> how can i set that up
[17:18] <demon^eye> that  how it look like copy paste " ëáåã ùì âáø > ðçùó òì éãé úîðéä"
[17:18] <Meerkat> demon^eye, so saving as UTF-8 and re-opening the file did not help?
[17:19] <demon^eye> nope it doesnt help
[17:19] <demon^eye> its all about unicode ...
[17:20] <Nanodesu> Hello! I'm using xtv through ssh but I don't know how to configure it. I mean, I'm trying to see what my son is seeing in his screen but when I type xtv (being connected through ssh to my second computer) what xtv shows is my screen not the other.
[17:20] <Nanodesu> Do yo know how to do it?
[17:21] <Robert__> Hi! Which graphic would you recommend for drawing with gimp? (Used 80% under ubuntu/debian and under win7) so it should work under both good :)
[17:21] <Robert__> I head about bamboo but maybe another works also good
[17:25] <mbroeker> Nanodesu, login on the remote machine, sudo su - <sonsuseraccount> and enter xtv
[17:35] <levo> how to only upgrade 'wine' ?
[17:37] <akrl> hello, does anyone know if its possible to mount a partition using its beginning and ending sector locations?
[17:45] <michagogo|cloud> levo: iirc, sudo apt-get install wine
[17:45] <demon^eye> is there any software for Ubuntu to make full backup?
[17:46] <demon^eye> full partition backup
[17:48] <SchrodingersScat> demon^eye: there are several methods you can consider
[17:48] <Nanodesu> mbroeker: I get: Can't open display: localhost:10.0
[17:49] <SchrodingersScat> !backup | demon^eye
[17:50] <levo> i'm trying to install pdfexchange editor 3.0.306.1  via wine 1.4 , but it even doesn't get started, it's like nothing happens at all.
[17:51] <iceroot> levo: #winehq
[17:51] <SchrodingersScat> demon^eye: I think gparted can copy partitions, and there's the dd command, although dd is more manual and can lead to disk loss through user error
[17:51] <iceroot> !appdb | levo
[18:06] <michagogo|cloud> Does anyone know why an Ubuntu vps would appear not to shut down when it's told to with either `sudo halt` or `sudo shutdown -h now`?
[18:07] <michagogo|cloud> It stops being reachable over the internet (ssh, etc) and the virtual console connection is just a black screen, but the status remains "running" and not "shut down"
[18:08] <ClientAlive> mbroeker: Thanks. Sorry for dealay (I'm on #postgresql too). I do have pgadmin and have just set a postgres password. Can I presume to just start using it from here on out and can I just start working in pgadmin to do so?
[18:08] <mbroeker> michagogo|cloud, stop your container with the container software :)
[18:09] <ClientAlive> mbroeker: Or do I still need to do some work on the command line (configuration or something)?
[18:09] <mbroeker> ClientAlive, the server is up and running?
[18:10] <zeljko> heoo
[18:10] <michagogo|cloud> mbroeker: the interface says that it's not recommended and that the server should be powered off from the command line
[18:11] <michagogo|cloud> Does that mean something other than `sudo shutdown -h now` or `sudo halt`?
[18:11] <ClientAlive> I'm still in the psql command line and have just successfully set a password (I - think). Does that indicate any kind of answer to that question (I'm truly asking - I don't know if it does or not - maybe the password only seemed to work).
[18:11] <mbroeker> ClientAlive, # sudo su - postgres # createuser -P business # createdb --owner business business
[18:11] <ClientAlive> mbroeker: Can any of that be done in pgadmin?
[18:12] <mbroeker> ClientAlive, no, these commands are cli commands
[18:12] <ClientAlive> ok
[18:12] <Nanodesu> Hello! I'm using xtv through ssh but I don't know how to configure it. I mean, I'm trying to see what my son is seeing in his screen but when I type xtv (being connected through ssh to my second computer) what xtv shows is my screen not the other.
[18:13] <mbroeker> michagogo|cloud, i think that the container software has no clue about the shutdown: or try it with sudo shutdown -p now (instead of h) and check the interface
[18:13] <zeljko> macedonijan
[18:16] <michagogo|cloud> mbroeker: what's shutdown -p?
[18:16] <ClientAlive> mbroeker: I'm running everything locally and don't have any need to connect to any outside datbase. Is there a way to configure things so pgadmin will connect to my local postgres server by default/when it starts (or is that what the commands you gave are for)?
[18:16] <ClientAlive> Just trying to get a feel for this is all
[18:16] <mbroeker> ClientAlive, these commands will create a postgres user business and a database for this user
[18:17] <ClientAlive> mbroeker: Copying down your comands but I better start learning about it now. Thank you so much sir.
[18:18] <vicsar> .
[18:20] <mbroeker> michagogo|cloud, man shutdown -P powers off :)
[18:20] <michagogo|cloud> Agh
[18:20] <michagogo|cloud> Ahhh*
[18:21] <michagogo|cloud> That's probably it
[18:21] <michagogo|cloud> How is that different from -h?
[18:21] <mbroeker> michagogo|cloud, normally, a shutdown -h now powers it off automatically, but sometimes, you need the -P switch
[18:21] <zeljko> acedonijan
[18:21] <zeljko> macedonijan
[18:21] <michagogo|cloud> What do they do differently?
[18:22] <linuxuz3r> xD
[18:22] <michagogo|cloud> Also, is there a no-arguments command that does the same thing, the way halt=shutdown -h now?
[18:22] <mbroeker> michagogo|cloud, i have no idea: all my pcs, laptops and vps'es were able to shutdown without -P :)
[18:29] <levo> how to know what version of packages are retrieved from update command?
[18:31] <OerHeks> levo, look in softwarecenter > history
[18:32] <levo> OerHeks: yes
[18:32] <islandmonkey> Hello all, how could I always make a program run under optirun?
[18:34] <jiacomo> Ubuntu 12.04 freezes two times, directly after each other. Mouse and keyboard don't respond, and there are some strange 1,5cm tall lines on the screen, sometimes white, sometimes black and sometimes different colours, all these contents in one freeze. What could be the cause of this freezing?
[18:34] <XATRIX> Guys, can you advice
[18:34] <XATRIX> I've added this repo into my apt
[18:34] <XATRIX> https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/php5-oldstable
[18:34] <XATRIX> I need php5.4
[18:34] <XATRIX> But when i do apt-get update
[18:34] <RamsesII> I am using Lubuntu 13.10. I installed lives and cinerella but then uninstalled them. After that, all sound doesn't work. I did not change any settings. My system is not muted.
[18:34] <XATRIX> I receive:
[18:34] <FloodBot1> XATRIX: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:34] <OerHeks> islandmonkey, maybe this page is any help to add the optirun option > http://www.tuxtrix.com/2012/01/how-to-add-optirun-mode-to-applications.html
[18:34] <RamsesII> Is anyone familiar with this problem?
[18:35] <XATRIX> Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net saucy/main Translation-en_US
[18:35] <XATRIX> Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net saucy/main Translation-en
[18:35] <XATRIX> Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net saucy/main i386 Packages
[18:35] <XATRIX> And i actually have no php 5.4 packages to install
[18:35] <XATRIX> Any idea how can i ?
[18:36] <RamsesII> Does anyone know if Lubuntu uses Pulseaudio or not? Ever search says "did you mean Ubuntu?"
[18:36] <OerHeks> XATRIX, ppa's are not supported here, contact the ppa owner
[18:36] <ice9> if Firefox is running and I want to start a new window but not from file->new window;  I want to do it from the firefox cmd itself. what param should I pass to it?
[18:37] <OerHeks> XATRIX, bacause that PPA goes up to Raring, no saucy candidates
[18:38] <RamsesII> -new-window
[18:38] <RamsesII> ice9: Enter the command "firefox -new-window <url>". It works when Firefox is running.
[18:39] <OerHeks> RamsesII +1
[18:39] <RamsesII> But...about my sound problem. Does Lubuntu 13.10 use Pulseaudio?
[18:39] <ice9> RamsesII: it said FF is already running
[18:40] <RamsesII> I have firefox open and entered "firefox -new-window xkcd.com
[18:40] <RamsesII> "
[18:40] <RamsesII> And it opened a new window with xkcd in it.
[18:41] <XATRIX> Any idea where can i get php 5.4 ?
[18:42] <WeThePeople> i messed up with nautilus how do i fix, i typed nautilus instead of gksudo nautilus
[18:43] <hitsujiTMO> XATRIX: php.net? what ubuntu version are you on?
[18:44] <donvlto> anyone have idea why my computer freezes, i am checking ram right now, it seems fine
[18:44] <donvlto> it has ubuntu 12.04
[18:44] <XATRIX> hitsujiTMO: Ubuntu server 13.10
[18:44] <donvlto> but it freez with no warning
[18:44] <hitsujiTMO> XATRIX: do you want to downgrade?
[18:44] <XATRIX> Yes
[18:44] <hitsujiTMO> erm... why?
[18:44] <bazhang> donvlto, debian?
[18:44] <XATRIX> I need exactly 5.4 version of php
[18:45] <donvlto> no its ubuntu, im planing to install debian
[18:45] <XATRIX> I don't want to downgrade ubuntu
[18:45] <XATRIX> I need to downgrade php
[18:46] <XATRIX> OerHeks: and why do you think it's for rarian ?
[18:46] <XATRIX> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ondrej/php5-oldstable/ubuntu saucy main
[18:46] <hitsujiTMO> XATRIX: i doubt that, if any software requires exactly php5.4 then its badly written and should be avoided as you'll never know what security holes it will have
[18:46] <Lucid_Lynx> awesome comic..
[18:46] <OerHeks> XATRIX, bacause the page says so. and you can add any ppa, but you will find no packages, did you?
[18:47] <XATRIX> hitsujiTMO: thanks for warning, but i still need this php version
[18:47] <RamsesII> I fixed the sound issue.
[18:48] <RamsesII> XATRIX: Do you need it for testing or for a live server?
[18:48] <Bjizzle> Hi. I was trying to install nvidia 331 drivers but it said it needed linux-headers. I downloaded linux-image from recovery mode console but I got the wrong link for wget and I tried to install an html page accidentally. When I got the right linux-image downloaded and installed I also downloaded and installed the correct linux-headers after realizing linux-image is not linux-headers. Now my machine won't boot. It flashes the loading spl
[18:48] <jiacomo> I just logged in (computer was suspended) and it totally freezes, keyboard and mouse didn't react, only some white lines all over the screen, sometimes changing to black lines. What can be the cause of this freeze?
[18:48] <XATRIX> OerHeks: http://ppa.launchpad.net/ondrej/php5-oldstable/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/binary-amd64/ ?
[18:49] <XATRIX> RamsesII: i need it for testing and running a code for myself
[18:49] <islandmonkey> OerHeks: Great thanks - and even better - it was for the application I wanted!
[18:49] <XATRIX> Actually my custom module compiled for API 5.4
[18:49] <RamsesII> I would recommend the easy method of installing the version of xampp which includes the PHP version you want.
[18:49] <RamsesII> http://sourceforge.net/projects/xampp/files/XAMPP%20Linux/
[18:50] <jenia_> hello
[18:50] <jenia_> what does /etc/hostname refere to??
[18:50] <hitsujiTMO> Bjizzle: just choose the older kernel from the grub boot menu and once you get in remove the linux-image package you installed
[18:50] <jenia_> mine is "ubuntu"
[18:50] <jenia_> why cant i type /debian/index.html
[18:50] <RamsesII> It is the name your computer will have on the network.
[18:50] <bazhang> !xampp | RamsesII
[18:51] <jenia_> or http://debian/index.html in the browser and receive the correct page??
[18:51] <Bjizzle> Hitsujitmo: I already tried booting into another kernel. I got similar results.
[18:51] <RamsesII> ubottu: I do not need support for XAMPP.
[18:51] <hitsujiTMO> Bjizzle: have you tried booting with the text kernel param?
[18:51] <RamsesII> ubottu: I wouldn't dream of thinking you were intelligent...
[18:52] <bazhang> RamsesII, /msg ubottu
[18:52] <Bjizzle> Hitsujitmo: I don't think so. What would I google for how to do that?
[18:52] <hitsujiTMO> !text | Bjizzle
[18:53] <hitsujiTMO> Bjizzle: that will get you to a text mode that you can use to see if the issue is woth xorg, e.g. the 331 driver you installed
[18:54] <slayer> hello all
[18:54] <ni1s> 'ello
[18:54] <slayer> I'm trying to get Steam working on 64-bit Linux, but it's failing when it segfaults in the 32-bit fglrx_dri.so module
[18:55] <slayer> how do i update the 32-bit fglrx? I see the timestamps on the 64-bit files are from a few minutes ago, but the 32-bit SO file is from jan 8, 2012
[18:55] <Bjizzle> Hitsujitmo: Thank you. Is it supposed to drop to tty login?
[18:56] <hitsujiTMO> Bjizzle: yup. does not start X
[18:56] <RamsesII> Bye everyone. Merry Christmas.
[18:57] <hitsujiTMO> slayer: what gpu do you have?
[18:57] <Bjizzle> Hitsujitmo: now should I purge linux-headers that I installed?
[18:58] <slayer> Radeon HD 6770
[18:58] <hitsujiTMO> Bjizzle: what exactly did you install? i would first look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what was the cause of the non boot. may have been the nvidia 331 driver
[18:58] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, Radeon HD 6770
[18:59] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, though when I start Steam, it segfaults on this file: /usr/lib32/dri/fglrx_dri.so
[18:59] <aFeijo> hi folks, I own an NAS drive (its a shared box which run linux inside), I want to permanentely map it in my ubuntu 13.10, I added a line in my fstab, but its not working: "mount.nfs: remote share not in 'host:dir' format"
[19:00] <hitsujiTMO> slayer: whats the output of: cat /etc/issue
[19:00] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, it is: Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[19:01] <Bjizzle> Hitsujitmo: I think it was X, fatal server error: addscreen/screeninit failed for driver 0
[19:01] <hitsujiTMO> slayer: is that happening for a specific game or steam itself
[19:01] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, Steam itself, it won't start
[19:01] <hitsujiTMO> Bjizzle: uninstall the nvidia driver so then
[19:02] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, the exact error is: 0xf6ace15f in __driCreateNewScreen_20050727 () from /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so
[19:02] <nochas> aFeijo: try specifying the remote share in host:dir format?
[19:03] <aFeijo> nochas, all examples I found was in a simple //192.x.x.x/share /mnt/folder/
[19:03] <linuxuz3r> is there a way to upgrade 12.04 to 13.10
[19:03] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, I've googled that error, but didn't find much that helped, which led me to believe that it might because the 32-bit SO file is a good 2 yrs older than the 64-bit file...
[19:04] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, but I could be barking up the wrong tree..
[19:04] <nochas> try 192.x.y.z:/share /foo/
[19:04] <hitsujiTMO> slayer: have a look here. seems to be issues with aiglx or the compositor: http://keycorner.org/pub/text/doc/ATI_Radeon_&_Kernel_2.6.htm
[19:04] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, haha yes I've disabled those two, I saw that earlier too
[19:05] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, my best bet is to try updating the 32-bit fglrx_dri.so file, but how can I do that? apt-get won't allow both the i386 and the 64-bit version at the same time
[19:06] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, maybe purge the 64-bit fglrx-updates and install the 32-bit fglrx-updates:i386?
[19:06] <hitsujiTMO> slayer: i don't think that's your issue. It seems more like something is forcing aiglx
[19:06] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, oh? hmm how do I detect that?
[19:09] <Bashing-om> linuxuz3r, The online upgrade path from 12,04 is one gets upgraded to 12.10, do it again to version 13.04, do it once more to get to version 13.10. Else, the faster way is to do a clean install from, say, a 13.10 liveDVD. - hth- .
[19:10] <michagogo|cloud> Or wait until April
[19:10] <michagogo|cloud> You'll be able to upgrade directly from 12.04 to 14.04, I think
[19:10] <Meerkat> yes, that is possible.
[19:11] <hitsujiTMO> slayer: can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ... maybe some info in there that could help
[19:12] <Bashing-om> linuxuz3r, Yes on direct LTS to LTS .. in April when 14.04 is released.
[19:13] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, here it is http://pastebin.com/FCk8kT31
[19:13] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, I have the minidump from the Steam executable too
[19:14] <Meerkat> as a 13.04 user I feel stressed
[19:14] <Meerkat> 12.10 gets longer support :(
[19:14] <hitsujiTMO> slayer: yes can you pastebin that too
[19:15] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, the minidump analysis?
[19:16] <hitsujiTMO> slayer: yup
[19:17] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, sure, here it is http://pastebin.com/X59L3LrE
[19:17] <Meerkat> what happens to quantal users when raring no longer gets support? Can they upgrade to 13.10 or 14.04 LTS directly?
[19:17] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, I used gdb to launch Steam as well, but it didn't teach me anything new
[19:17] <hitsujiTMO> slayer: can you run: sudo apt-get -f install
[19:18] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, yes, just ran it again, got the usual: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed... etc
[19:21] <hitsujiTMO> slayer: are you running steam through wine?
[19:21] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, nope
[19:23] <hitsujiTMO> slayer: can you run steam from the terminal and pastebin the output of that
[19:26] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, here it is http://pastebin.com/kduTSZkG
[19:31] <hitsujiTMO> slayer: the fact that its reinstalling the bootstrap suggests it might be an issue with steam itself. can you try deleting the contents of ~/.local/share/Steam
[19:32] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, sure, let me try
[19:32] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, done, let me try restarting Steam now or is there something else I should configure first?
[19:33] <hitsujiTMO> slayer: just run steam away
[19:33] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, damn, same error
[19:35] <Guest40595> Can you help me for config new tld with bind9 ?
[19:36] <Guest40595> I have add new zone in /etc/bind/named.conf and i a have create file config
[19:37] <Guest40595> but the command dig return null :/
[19:44] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, i guess i should give up on this, maybe it  just doesn't work in Ubuntu 13.10
[19:44] <slayer> maybe in a few months it will
[19:44] <hitsujiTMO> slayer: i wouldn't give up, its an odd issue. it should work on your system
[19:44] <ben_> hi
[19:45] <ben_> hiiii
[19:45] <Guest40595> one dns admin on channel ? :)
[19:46] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, yeah, i don't like quitting either but I've run out of ideas at this point
[19:46] <paulus68_1> perhaps a stupid question I have a seperate home drive and now I want to install a new SSD on my system replacing the current startup disk do I need to specify again that home is on a seperate drive or is this reconized automaticly
[19:46] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, I still don't understand why the 32-bit fglrx_dri.so which is being loaded is from jan 8, 2012 and not the most recent updated one i installed today
[19:47] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, it seems to me that outdated code in that 32-bit SO might be worth investigating, but I don't know how to update it
[19:47] <ben_> hi
[19:47] <Guest40595> ben_: no
[19:48] <ben_> whi?
[19:49] <yto> i cant shutdown my laptop and test sudo shutdown -h and -P but my problem not solved. when shutdown laptop it freeze in page ubuntu logo
[19:49] <hitsujiTMO> slayer: that's not part of the driver itself i suspect. considering that its a 32bit lib, and you've a 64bit system
[19:49] <levo> i've got wine 1.4 which i've heard is kind of dead by now. i want to upgrade to the latest, so i did sudo apt-get update ,  and then sudo apt-get upgrade, but in uprading package lists it doesn't tell anything about wine getting upgraded , what should i do?
[19:49] <levo> http://pastebin.com/2xXmtbgC
[19:49] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, but it's being loaded, it's in the stacktrace, since Steam is only 32-bit on Linux
[19:50] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, Steam is not a 64-bit app so it can only load 32-bit libs
[19:50] <hitsujiTMO> slayer: yes i know, i'm saying that the fglrx_dri is prob at its latest
[19:50] <bazhang> levo, you could check in #winehq
[19:51] <levo> bazhang: what does it have to do with wine?
[19:51] <bazhang> levo, their repos have the very latest
[19:51] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, this is what I get for: ls -al /usr/lib32/dri/fglrx_dri.so
[19:51] <yto> i cant shutdown my laptop and test sudo shutdown -h and -P but my problem not solved. when shutdown laptop it freeze in page ubuntu logo. anyone can help me?
[19:51] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 34623716 Jan  8  2012 /usr/lib32/dri/fglrx_dri.so
[19:51] <Guest40595> Can you help me for config new tld with bind9 ?
[19:51] <slayer> it's 2 yrs old
[19:52] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, while the 64-bit one is from today
[19:52] <enen92> hi all. Does anyone know of a indicator panel applet to control services running on the system (e.g. nginx,mysql,etc)?
[19:52] <paulus68_1> if I replace my current startup disk with an ssd and install the new version of Ubuntu on it does it reconize that I have a seperate home partition?
[19:52] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, and the 2 yr old 32-bit SO is what's segfaulting
[19:53] <Guest40595> enen92: service --status-all ?
[19:53] <enen92> lol yes
[19:54] <enen92> but looking for an easy way to start/stop a service from the panel
[19:54] <yto> i cant shutdown my laptop and test sudo shutdown -h and -P but my problem not solved. when shutdown laptop it freeze in page ubuntu logo. anyone can help me?
[19:54] <Bashing-om> levo, what results from terminal command "apt-cache policy wine" ?? should say what version is installed and waht is available,.. not a big proponent of adding PPAs to the system, but the latest versions are in the PPAs.
[19:54] <Guest40595> enen92: the console is your best friend :)
[19:55] <Guest40595> you use gnome ? kde ?
[19:55] <enen92> gnome-classic
[19:55] <Guest40595> with openbox, you can create one pipe menu, and this is top :)
[19:56] <Guest40595> Can you help me for config new tld with bind9 ? :'( please...
[19:57] <levo> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/BsR1fSQR
[19:57] <x0auser> Why i ise 1go of ram with mate DE, i'm under precise ! just wanna to understand
[19:58] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, thank you for helping me though, i really appreciate it :)
[19:58] <yto> i cant shutdown my laptop and test sudo shutdown -h and -P but my problem not solved. when shutdown laptop it freeze in page ubuntu logo. anyone can help me?
[19:59] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, when I install fglrx-updates, I see this: Building for architecture x86_64
[19:59] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, is there a way to make it build for arch x86 as well?
[20:00] <hitsujiTMO> slayer no since you have a 64bit kernel
[20:00] <paulus68_1> if I replace my current startup disk with an ssd and install the new version of Ubuntu on it does it reconize that I have a seperate home partition?
[20:00] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, ah i see
[20:01] <Bashing-om> levo. that says you are running the latest version of wine that is available from the repository. If you are into testing the latest versions of wine are available with installing the PPA and upgrading via that means.
[20:01] <hitsujiTMO> slayer: you can't use a 32bit driver with a 64bit kernel. doesn't stop you from using 32bit apps tho
[20:01] <levo> Bashing-om: 1.4 is so old AFAIK.
[20:01] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, right, hmm
[20:01] <washuu> Hi :-) Mwrry xmas...and a question...
[20:02] <levo> Bashing-om: i'm wrong it seems it's new
[20:02] <washuu> Fot Apache questions should I go where?
[20:03] <Meerkat> washuu, just ask, maybe you'll get lucky
[20:03] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | washuu
[20:03] <ilyasoo> thanks
[20:05] <washuu> Tnx meerkat... ok... I have apache running and /cgi-bin/php* is always hit my scripts. I want to insult the script-user automatically instead of the 500 page.
[20:05] <washuu> Can I move/rename the PHP link?
[20:05] <Meerkat> hit by scripts?
[20:06] <washuu> *by scipts. Yes
[20:06] <yto> i cant shutdown my laptop and test sudo shutdown -h and -P but my problem not solved. when shutdown laptop it freeze in page ubuntu logo. anyone can help me?
[20:06] <hitsujiTMO> washuu: wht language do you speak?
[20:07] <Bashing-om> levo, well, yes.. you need to understand that any version in the repository id frozen at the version, To insure that your system stays stable. I am sure there are later versions via PPA !,, but not recommeded by me, I value stability over newness !
[20:07] <hitsujiTMO> washuu: i'm guessing english isn't your native language
[20:07] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, ah i'm reading about fglrx-experimental? might be worth a shot?
[20:08] <hitsujiTMO> slayer: might be if you want to be on the latest driver. but if its the lib thats crashing then it might not be any good.
[20:08] <washuu> @hitsuji - German and English
[20:08] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, ok, thanks
[20:09] <hitsujiTMO> !de | washuu if your english is isn't the best which i'm guessing from " is always hit my scripts" and "I want to insult the script-user"
[20:09] <SchrodingersScat> washuu: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/misc/rewriteguide.html
[20:09] <levo> Bashing-om, you're right, but i tried to add the ppa, got this error. Bashing-om
[20:09] <levo> http://pastebin.com/wj7YETNv
[20:10] <SchrodingersScat> washuu: you might be looking for the "Blocking of Robots" section
[20:10] <paulus68_1> want to install a new ubuntu on a ssd drive does it reconize my home drive which is on a seperate HD or do I have to specify this seperatly
[20:10] <washuu> I was just unconcentrated. On the English speaking channels I can find the most helpful people.
[20:11] <washuu> tnx Schroedinger for the link
[20:11] <yto> i cant shutdown my laptop and test sudo shutdown -h and -P but my problem not solved. when shutdown laptop it freeze in page ubuntu logo. anyone can help me?
[20:12] <Bashing-om> levo, PPA errors can be tough to trouble shoot, how about registering on ubuntuforums.net and we can take a stab at it .. lots of individual help available on the forum.
[20:12] <SchrodingersScat> paulus68_1: in the manual setup you can try pointing it to your /home/ partition manually and tell it to not format the partition.
[20:12] <washuu> Url rewrite... You are right. I forgot about it. I'll read that doc completely and that should solve my question
[20:13] <dveim> hello
[20:13] <SchrodingersScat> washuu: great for filtering malicious sites like facebook.
[20:13] <levo> Bashing-om: the first thing in ubuntuforums.net is "cute girls from russia"  lol
[20:13] <dveim> i installed oracle VB from .deb file, added VM, then removed it with VB
[20:14] <dveim> but now on loading system tries to load VM
[20:14] <Bashing-om> levo, leeme get my facts straight !- I am a facilitator on that forum ! (sheesshh).
[20:15] <levo> Bashing-om: seriously check what you typed.
[20:15] <Bashing-om> levo, that URL should be "ubuntuforums.org" ! .. a lengthy registratioon procedure, but well worth the effort !
[20:15] <washuu> I meant hacker scripts that attack badly configured PHP .
[20:16] <dveim> and fails on Starting VirtualBox
[20:16] <yto> i cant shutdown my laptop and test sudo shutdown -h and -P but my problem not solved. when shutdown laptop it freeze in page ubuntu logo. anyone can help me?
[20:16] <dveim> how can i totally remove it from my system?
[20:17] <SchrodingersScat> washuu: the link is useful then if they have a custom user-agent, otherwise maybe there are other options.  For example, if the user-agent is "script.2" you can filter for that and redirect to an error page regardless of what the normal code would be.
[20:18] <Meerkat> redirect to nsa.gov!
[20:18] <SchrodingersScat> good call
[20:18] <dveim> this is result of find / -name *virtual*
[20:18] <dveim> http://pastebin.com/Em9eT9hh
[20:18] <dveim> what should i remove to prevent autoloading VB?
[20:19] <washuu> Schroedinger: The user agent isn't always the same. Usually it doesn't look faked.
[20:21] <SchrodingersScat> washuu: how are you identifying it then?  have you seen fail2ban ?
[20:22] <helpmepleazze> hello
[20:22] <helpmepleazze> i installed oracle VB and created one VM
[20:22] <helpmepleazze> then removed all
[20:22] <washuu> I have fail2ban but seemingly I am not good enough to configure it correcty :(
[20:22] <helpmepleazze> but atfer reboot system fails to init X
[20:23] <helpmepleazze> so i have only access to console
[20:23] <helpmepleazze> http://pastebin.com/Em9eT9hh is output of find / *virtual*
[20:23] <helpmepleazze> what should i remove to stop autoloading VB?
[20:25] <hitsujiTMO> helpmepleazze: lets start with: cat /etc/issue
[20:25] <helpmepleazze> Linux Mint 16 Petra
[20:25] <SchrodingersScat> !mint | helpmepleazze
[20:25] <helpmepleazze> ...
[20:25] <yto> i cant shutdown my laptop and test sudo shutdown -h and -P but my problem not solved. when shutdown laptop it freeze in page ubuntu logo. anyone can help me?
[20:25] <helpmepleazze> it is ubuntu on 955%
[20:26] <helpmepleazze> *95%
[20:26] <bazhang> helpmepleazze, its not supported here
[20:26] <helpmepleazze> retarded
[20:26] <OerHeks> mint has its own issues
[20:26] <hitsujiTMO> helpmepleazze: mint is very different from ubuntu. we're can't support it here
[20:26] <SchrodingersScat> I read your question, and have no idea how virtualbox is crashing your x.
[20:26] <helpmepleazze> it is not mint issue...
[20:26] <bazhang> helpmepleazze, go to their support channel for that
[20:26] <hitsujiTMO> helpmepleazze: its not an ubuntu issue either
[20:27] <qin> !mint > helpmepleazze
[20:27] <Penguin_Pete> OK, have I woken up in a different universe, or is it no longer possible to change BIOS settings to boot from CD? Inspiron 3250 laptop, running Windows 8. Normally I'd hold F1
[20:30] <Meerkat> Penguin_Pete, try F2
[20:30] <Meerkat> or Fn+F1
[20:30] <hitsujiTMO> Penguin_Pete: esc, f11, f12, del ... key is different on every system
[20:31] <SchrodingersScat> Penguin_Pete: oh no, your disk drive! :(
[20:33] <Bashing-om> Penguin_Pete; Windows8 == UEFI .. and that is a whole new ball game in a means to boot a different operating system, even a bootable CD !
[20:33] <gvo> lightdm is flakey on mint
[20:34] <MathersMarshall> Is there a way to change the color of the text at the top of the screen on Ubuntu?
[20:35] <SchrodingersScat> MathersMarshall: do you have a "Theme Configuration" in your settings?
[20:36] <yto> i cant shutdown my laptop and test sudo shutdown -h and -P but my problem not solved. when shutdown laptop it freeze in page ubuntu logo. anyone can help me?
[20:36] <MathersMarshall> Schrodingerscat: To which Ubuntu version does that apply to?
[20:36] <SchrodingersScat> MathersMarshall: it was a question, so all of them.
[20:36] <washuu> It looks like the PHP executable is not needed in the cgi-bin folder at all! I renamed the files.
[20:37] <MathersMarshall> Schrodingerscat: I'm looking now
[20:37] <MathersMarshall> Schrodingerscat: No
[20:38] <hitsujiTMO> MathersMarshall: if you want to change any of the colors afaik you'd have to edit the theme itself
[20:39] <hussain> hi FloodBot1
[20:45] <yto> i cant shutdown my laptop and test sudo shutdown -h and -P but my problem not solved. when shutdown laptop it freeze in page ubuntu logo. anyone can help me?
[20:46] <washuu> It looks like I didn't deinstall some extremely insecure remote administration tool. Now I can write a script
[20:47] <washuu> What do you see in the system logs after you tried to shutdown, yto?
[20:49] <herp> normal user cant connect to any wifi network without admin password (ubuntu 12.04). Workaround?
[20:49] <yto> washuu, where is log file?
[20:50] <gvo> yto use C-A-F1 to get to a terminal and do the shutdown -h from there.  Maybe an error message will scroll by to give you a hint.
[20:50] <b13m_> need some help
[20:51] <gvo> yto also look at log files, and boot into recovery  mode and look at the X logs
[20:52] <qin> herp: http://askubuntu.com/questions/141553/how-to-enable-wireless-network-for-standard-users
[20:52] <Meerkat> herp, go to user and groups settings, click on the user your wanna change permissions for and click the "advanced settings" button. Somewhere around there will be a checkbox for "connecting to wireless networks"
[20:53] <Meerkat> herp, that link looks like a quicker and easier method. Go with that! :)
[20:54] <gvo> b13m_: Don't ask for help, just ask a question.
[20:54] <yto> gvo, i do your instruction but output is: The system is going to halt now ....    but laptop freeze and cant shutdown
[20:54] <qin> yto: to try to eliminate x problem: sudo service lightdm stop; and from console: sudo shoutdown -h now
[20:55] <gvo> yto ^^^
[20:56] <gvo> yto also remove quiet and splash from boot kernel temporarily
[20:56] <Jacob__> hi, i need help w/ repairing my windows partition
[20:56] <Jacob__> i tried using boot repair
[20:56] <Jacob__> but it only made it worse
[20:56] <qin> yto: maybe checking with htop that all X rubbish is off is good idea, then /var/log/ and sys.lop
[20:56] <Jacob__> i also keep getting bsod
[20:57] <Jacob__> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6635888/
[20:57] <Jacob__> can anybody please help?
[20:58] <gvo> jacob__: Not sure the Ubuntu channel is the right place for that kind of help.
[20:59] <Jacob__> which channel then?
[20:59] <gvo> Dunno
[20:59] <yto> qin, i do your instruction but laptop doesnt shutdown
[21:00] <Jacob__> is there a channel for fixing windows?
[21:02] <gvo> yto did you boot single user and look at the Xorg log?
[21:03] <yto> gvo, no where is my Xorg log?
[21:04] <uBUXUBu> merry christmas ubuntites!
[21:04] <uBUXUBu> ho ho ho
[21:05] <gvo> yto in /var/log
[21:05] <mbroeker> and now i have a keyboard, uBUXUBu lol
[21:05] <uBUXUBu> santa got u a keyboard?
[21:06] <yto> gvo, i dont understand the text in this file. can you help me?
[21:06] <hitsujiTMO> yto: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:07] <gvo> First it gets rebuilt every time you boot, so looking at it now won't do anything for you.  You must reboot single user, go to the end of the file and look for error messages.
[21:07] <gvo> hitsujiTMO: That won't tell him why it didn't shutdown the last time.
[21:07] <washuu_de> hitsuji knows how. I'd only say "pastebin, please"
[21:08] <yto> gvo , hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6636102/
[21:09] <gvo> Doesn't tell us a thing.
[21:10] <gvo> yto shutdown, boot single user, copy the Xorg.log.0 (or whatever) file somewhere to save it and boot normally.  Then pastebin that file.
[21:11] <yto> gvo, ok
[21:11] <Ninja-Duck> bonjour, j'aurais besoin d'aide par rapport à un driver wifi
[21:11] <gvo> Not that I expect to see anything since he did try to shutdown lightdm and reboot which didn't work nor did it hang in shutting down the dm but it's worth a shot.
[21:12] <qin> !fr | Ninja-Duck
[21:12] <hitsujiTMO> yto: gvo: my apologies. Presumed it was a booting issue
[21:12] <gvo> Shutdown hang
[21:12] <Florch> Hola
[21:13] <Florch> asdfg
[21:14] <mamed> no drm device found . while trying to run weston on ubuntu 13.04
[21:14] <shortstraw8> Is there a way to "upgrade" and only keep certain personal files. I have some stuff that will roll over like -wine- that I don't want anymore but I have tons of videos and other file and pics that I don't want to lose or burn to disk. I am not seeing this option anywhere as I try to upgrade, I have seen pinning and using makedev, but these do not relate to me. Any help would be great.
[21:14] <hay> hi! I have a HP DL360G6 server that I have just installed 13.10 to and it has just one interface, em1... when I connect a cable from second LAN interface, the light for the NIC is on and the port on the access switch is up, however there is no message about the port state in syslog... I also get message that interface is not found when trying ifconfig em2, em3 etc... any ideas would be very
[21:14] <hay> welcome :)
[21:15] <qin> shortstraw8: is your home on separate partition?
[21:15] <herp> qin, Meerkat: thanks, but unfortunately only checking "Connect to wireless and ethernet networks" does not suffice. Normal user is still unable to connect to new wireless network. "System policy prevents modification of network settings for all users". But I dont even want to set it for all users. Only the current user.
[21:16] <shortstraw8> qin, Nope unless it does it automatically on install, but i have never done that.
[21:16] <Meerkat> herp, I think that user has to logout and log back in for permissions to update. Forgot to mention that.
[21:16] <herp> Meerkat: tried restar already
[21:16] <herp> restart
[21:16] <qin> shortstraw8: it does not...
[21:17] <FluxD> Hi, is it possible to run 32bit .so file on 64bit ?
[21:17] <shortstraw8> qin,  so just make a partition and put my homefiles in it then update the system right? Just want to make sure.
[21:18] <ClientAlive> There are two things I'd like to know about: (1) In system settings > online accounts, is there any way to add more things to the list off stuff in the right hand pane (eg: bitbucket)? And (2) Is there a way to make windows lanuch aligned with the center of the screen instead of the upper left corner (ie: all/every window, always)?
[21:19] <qin> shortstraw8: if you have space for new partition, sure. If you intend to resize something you wouldwant to make back up first
[21:19] <yto> gvo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6636154/
[21:19] <shortstraw8> qin, ok thank you.
[21:20] <qin> shortstraw8: while installing just make sure to choose manual partitioning and avoid formatting storage partition
[21:20] <hay> where to look for a solution when one NIC is missing in the system although port is UP - is should be em2 I suppose but the system has only em1?
[21:20] <gvo> yto it was worth a shot, but there's nothing significant in that log.
[21:21] <yto> gvo, when sudo shoutdown -h now the output is : acpid:exiting      speech-dispatcher disabled; edit /etc/default/speech-dispatcher
[21:21] <gvo> yto what's failing could very well be happening after the local files have been unmouted.  In that case there would be no info.
[21:21] <chrubuntu>  trying to get chrubuntu working on my acer c7. it downloads all the packages apparently but still boots to chromeos
[21:22] <gvo> yto those are pretty normal messages.
[21:23] <qin> hay: what is em1 and em2
[21:24] <chrubuntu> is there some place i can get support, free or paid?
[21:24] <hay> qin, I have 2 LAN network interfaces on a server.. one is found and this is em1, however the second one is not anywhere... although when I connect a LAN cable to it the light on it is on and port is up on the access switch...
[21:25] <qin> chrubuntu: /j #chrubuntu there is someone there
[21:25] <hay> qin, and there is no "em2" anywhere in the dmesg, only "em1".. both interfaces are enabled in bios
[21:26] <qin> chrubuntu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2136230
[21:26] <gvo> hay do you find both in lspci?
[21:28] <gvo> hay what version of Ubuntu shows em? as an ethernet interface?
[21:30] <hay> gvo, it's 13.10 installed on that machine
[21:30] <gvo> OK.
[21:31] <gvo> hay does lspci show two network cards?
[21:32] <hay> well... not after the reboot both are there... I just disabled and enabled both in BIOS again to be sure
[21:32] <hay> thanks for your time and sorry for bothering :)
[21:32] <hay> gvo, now it does, just checked
[21:33] <hay> didn't check before that reboot when only one was avail
[21:33] <gvo> But they don't show up in ifconfig -a?
[21:33] <gvo> So problem solved?
[21:34] <hay> gvo, yup. Solved. thx!
[21:38] <Lunar_Lander> evening and merry christmas! I got a new computer with 16 GB RAM instead of 2 GB and I wanted to ask if Ubuntu 12.04 can use it (I have the x86 version)? I read that PAE is the important thing but I found differing statements, saying it is default in 12.04 or in 12.10
[21:38] <Lunar_Lander> system monitor shows me 15.3 GB RAM usable
[21:39] <MathersMarshall> I'm guessing it is using the RAM that it sees
[21:39] <Lunar_Lander> OK
[21:39] <qin> Lunar_Lander: leave 90's, get 64 bit.
[21:39] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[21:39] <MathersMarshall> ^^What qin said :P
[21:39] <Lunar_Lander> so backup everything on HDD2, wipe HDD1 and get x64? :)
[21:40] <MathersMarshall> x64 ftw
[21:40] <MathersMarshall> I'm on a 32 bit though. Intel Atom -_-
[21:41] <MathersMarshall> It's my only Ubuntu computer though. My main laptop runs Windows Vista
[21:41] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[21:42] <chrubunt_> can anyone help me w chrubuntu on a c7 chromebook?
[21:42] <qin> MathersMarshall: Is Vista still suported?
[21:42] <Lunar_Lander> yea I got myself 11.10 x86 back them, I just got it because I knew my PC would run it, didn't check what you'd need for x64 back in the days
[21:42] <Lunar_Lander> wonder if a Core2Duo was x64 ready
[21:42] <MathersMarshall> qin: I'm not even sure, I know WinXP is until next year.
[21:42] <Lunar_Lander> qin, yes, Win XP support runs out now
[21:42] <Lunar_Lander> but Vista for sure, "just" came out in 2006
[21:43] <MathersMarshall> With Ubuntu, I don't have to worry about product lifecycles/purchasing a new copy of windows or upgrading my hardware.
[21:43] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[21:43] <MathersMarshall> Suck on that, OEM's.
[21:43] <MathersMarshall> ^_^
[21:43] <OerHeks> lscpu should tell you that.
[21:43] <MathersMarshall> Hell, my grandmother is even running Linux on an old P1 Using puppy linux :3
[21:43] <chrubunt_> can anyone recommend reasonable pay support for linux?
[21:44] <Lunar_Lander> I just had that discussion with a friend, that I today installed Vista on my old PC to give it back to my dad who loaned it to me
[21:44] <Lunar_Lander> and she said "I don't know the difference between Vista and 7" and I "Ah yea, you told me you are a linuxer as well" :)
[21:44] <qin> chrubunt_: have you checked link i have posted?
[21:44] <chrubunt_> qin: missed it - scrolling up
[21:45] <Lunar_Lander> but she uses Suse
[21:45] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[21:45] <qin> chrubunt_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2136230
[21:46] <qin> chrubunt_: there is also channel #chrubuntu
[21:46] <Lunar_Lander> qin, and MathersMarshall a question just crossed my mind, do I have to wipe my HDD1 (would take time as it is 2 TB big) or can I just, after backup, put in a 12.04 x64 disc and "overwrite" the x86 system?
[21:48] <MathersMarshall> Wait did you say 2TB? o_o
[21:48] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[21:48] <MathersMarshall> I envy you sir.
[21:48] <MathersMarshall> or madaam.
[21:48] <Lunar_Lander> sir xD
[21:48] <MathersMarshall> Well, I envy you.
[21:48] <MathersMarshall> ._.
[21:48] <Lunar_Lander> yeah I got an external HDD and ripped it open and got a Toshiba 2TB drive
[21:48] <Lunar_Lander> :P
[21:49] <MathersMarshall> Ah, you just ripped the HDD from the enclosure then?
[21:49] <qin> Lunar_Lander: shredding 2Tb would be highlight of ocd, you can simply repartiion and have a home and data on separate partitions with future upgrades/reinstalson the horizon
[21:49] <Lunar_Lander> ok
[21:49] <Lunar_Lander> yeah would figure that, I think shredding would take a whole day
[21:49] <Lunar_Lander> MathersMarshall, yeah
[21:50] <MathersMarshall> Nice :P I'm thinking of getting me an external HDD
[21:50] <Lunar_Lander> I opened the case, pulled the drive from that SATA-USB board and then put it into the PC
[21:54] <Lunar_Lander> MathersMarshall, yea, Saturn (electronics shop) currently stocks the 2 TB ones again, for again 80 euro, but also has 3 and 4 TB for I think 110 and 140 euros
[21:54] <christopher> hi everybody :)
[21:54] <Lunar_Lander> I looked at a WD MyBook 3 TB (or so) but didn't buy it as I read reports of ubuntu not recognizing the drive
[21:54] <mamed> hello guys. where to find fbdev-backend.so
[21:55] <kostkon> !find fbdev-backend.so
[21:56] <mamed> kostkon, i did say i could not find the file on my system
[21:56] <kostkon> mamed, why are you looking for that file
[21:57] <mamed> kostkon, i have ubuntu on virtualbox and want to try wayland weston
[21:58] <mamed> so drm s not supported and some guys in wayland room said that i can use fbdev-backend.so lib
[21:58] <mamed> but this does not in /usr/libi386.../weston/ dir
[22:01] <kostkon> mamed, yeah only the version in 14.04 contains that file it seems http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/i386/weston/filelist
[22:01] <kostkon> mamed, olders versions don't
[22:01] <mamed> hmm
[22:01] <mamed> ok thanks
[22:01] <Guest84150> kostkon: are you swedish?
[22:02] <kostkon> Guest84150, nope
[22:02] <mamed> why did u asl guest?
[22:02] <mamed> ask*
[22:02] <Guest84150> haha okay. no but "kostkon" means "foodcow" in swedish ^^
[22:02] <kostkon> Guest84150, really? wow
[22:03] <Guest84150> yes haha :)
[22:03] <mamed> afaik food is mat in sweidsh
[22:03] <mamed> mat = food , meal dinner
[22:03] <Guest84150> yes, kost is a synonym :)
[22:03] <MathersMarshall> Lol Kostkon XD
[22:04] <Guest84150> haha
[22:04] <kostkon> :(
[22:04] <Guest84150> why did you take that name? ^^
[22:04] <mamed> kost is verb means cpst in english
[22:04] <mamed> hur kostar det:P
[22:05] <MathersMarshall> Vista ends support on April 11, 2017
[22:05] <MathersMarshall> Just looked it up :p
[22:05] <Guest84150> mamed: hah, yes that too... but I'm swedish so I think I know it..
[22:05] <mamed> yeah i know . and i am a swedish learner
[22:05] <mamed> well i was**
[22:06] <mamed> nice and easy lang also old i think
[22:06] <Guest84150> mamed: ah fun! whats your language?
[22:06] <mamed> native turkish
[22:06] <c_korn> hello, why does libsdl-ttf2.0-dev not provide libSDL2_ttf-2.0.so.0 ?
[22:07] <ikonia> c_korn: the dev packages are headers
[22:08] <c_korn> ikonia: oh yeah, sorry. actually I meant libsdl-ttf2.0-0 (the dev package just depends on it)
[22:08] <ikonia> c_korn because libsdl is not libsdl2
[22:09] <c_korn> ikonia: but why isn't there a libsdl2-ttf2.0-0 ? (like libsdl2-image-dev or libsdl2-mixer-dev)
[22:09] <Jazayri> Hi, i have sound output in vlc but not in clementine !
[22:10] <ikonia> c_korn: no idea, I'd have to look into what each package provides and why/how
[22:12] <c_korn> ikonia: just found bug 1214922 . I don't think it will be backported to saucy :/
[22:15] <yangwi>  cc1plus: error: CPU you selected does not support x86-64 instruction set      when trying to compile seeborg-0.51 using     make      and -march=pentium , how can I solve this problem?
[22:15] <plewh> exit
[22:19] <yangwi>  cc1plus: error: CPU you selected does not support x86-64 instruction set      when trying to compile seeborg-0.51 using     make      and -march=pentium , how can I solve this problem?
[22:24] <yangwi>  cc1plus: error: CPU you selected does not support x86-64 instruction set      when trying to compile seeborg-0.51 using     make      and -march=pentium , how can I solve this problem?
[22:26] <Susning> Suggestion for application to open, edit and save PDF-documents? Not just a reader....?
[22:29] <yangwi>  cc1plus: error: CPU you selected does not support x86-64 instruction set      when trying to compile seeborg-0.51 using     make      and -march=pentium , how can I solve this problem?
[22:30] <gvo> Susning: pdfedit
[22:31] <Susning> gvo, thanks
[22:31] <SaberX01> !pdf | Susning,
[22:32] <BigWig__> hey, some sort of problem with ALSA(?) I think, can anyone make sense of this: http://pastebin.com/dPhm9CL4
[22:33] <SaberX01> Susning, Here's a pretty comprehensive list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PDF_software#Unix_and_Linux
[22:35] <pabs3> does rsync on Ubuntu lucid support any of the --delete* options? I'm trying to use them and getting an unknown option error.
[22:37] <SaberX01> yangwi, Try using -march=i686 flag during configure
[22:39] <pabs3> hrm, the rsync manual page says it does and the binary --help output does too.
[22:40] <kostkon> BigWig__, when trying to run alsamixer?
[22:40] <BigWig__> Yeah
[22:40] <BigWig__> It happens with anything audio
[22:41] <hitsujiTMO> BigWig__: have you tried deleting ~/.asoundrc ?
[22:41] <kostkon> BigWig__, it suggests "/home/paul/.asoundrc may be old or corrupted: consider to remove or fix it"
[22:42] <kostkon> BigWig__, move the file to another place, then reload alsa maybe or reboot
[22:43] <BigWig__> Woo!
[22:43] <BigWig__> It's working!
[22:43] <BigWig__> Thank you!
[22:44] <kostkon> nice
[22:57] <andrebfc> ciao
[23:05] <demon^eye> how do i change program defualt opening files?
[23:05] <helo_n> hello all. I've just installed Bumblebee on my new Dell XPS 15 (2013), and tried to install Bumblebee.. it looks like everything installed okay, but when I try to use optirun, it says: [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: Could not load GPU driver
[23:05] <demon^eye> i mean i want to change file association opening
[23:06] <helo_n> I followed the directions on the Bumblebee Ubuntu wiki page, and I updated to nvidia-updates-319.. but still no luck.
[23:07] <hitsujiTMO> helo_n: whats not working? did you relog so that your account is loaded with the bumblebee group?
[23:07] <helo_n> hitsujiTMO: I haven't tried that yet. So i just need to relog?
[23:08] <helo_n> brb, let me try that
[23:08] <Raimondi> Hi there. 'sudo /etc/init.d/transmission-daemon stop' just restarts the transmission, any pointers as to where to look to fix that? I just a somewhat ignorant newbie
[23:08] <Raimondi> I'm*
[23:11] <helo_n> hitsujiTMO: I relogged, but same thing
[23:11] <donvlto> how can i find were a file for example cccam.cfg were is located?
[23:11] <somsip> donvlto: locate cccam.cfg
[23:12] <hitsujiTMO> helo_n: what command are you executing and whats the result?
[23:12] <donvlto> somsip
[23:12] <donvlto> it gives me nothing
[23:12] <helo_n> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/QLzEJ7fW
[23:12] <hitsujiTMO> donvlto: sudo find / -name cccam.cfg
[23:12] <helo_n> I'm running optirun -vv firefox
[23:13] <somsip> donvlto: sudo find / -name cccam.cfg will do it but will be more intensive
[23:13] <maujhsn> Hello folks! I'm running ubuntu-12.04 on a liveUSB. I ran dmesg and am concerned about this message readout:
[23:13] <maujhsn> (loop1): warning: maximal mount count reached, running e2fsck is recommended
[23:13] <maujhsn> [   16.602503] EXT3-fs (loop1): using internal journal...How do i correct the problem?
[23:14] <RiotingPacifist> in my polkit policies it is set to allow_active, however this does not seem to be working, ideas?
[23:15] <hitsujiTMO> helo_n: can you pastebin the output of: lspci              and: cat /etc/bumblebee/*
[23:16] <hitsujiTMO> helo_n: bumblebee may be configured for the wrong bus
[23:16] <helo_n> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/Li4CjV8a
[23:18] <hitsujiTMO> helo_n: also can you paste the output of: groups
[23:18] <helo_n> http://pastebin.com/SPU7y9vz
[23:18] <helo_n> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/SPU7y9vz
[23:19] <helo_n> helo adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare bumblebee
[23:22] <hitsujiTMO> hmm, bus is correct. I notice the http://pastebin.com/QLzEJ7fW has references for nvidia-304 but you have bumblebee configured for nvidia-319-updates. can you pastebin the output of: dpkg --get-selections | grep nvidia
[23:23] <adas> hi! can anyone give me advice on how to get rtorrent to start on boot on ubuntu?
[23:23] <hitsujiTMO> adas: you dont. you use transmission instead
[23:24] <adas> hitsujiTMO: why is transmission better
[23:24] <adas> hitsujiTMO: can u run it in terminal?
[23:24] <hitsujiTMO> adas: yes. yes. and even better... it has a web interface
[23:24] <adas> :o
[23:24] <adas> but I have no x window on my ubuntu server
[23:24] <hitsujiTMO> adas: install transmission-daemon for the web interface
[23:25] <adas> hitsujiTMO: I will definetly try it, but now I already configured my rtorrent, do you know a way to start it on boot?
[23:26] <hitsujiTMO> adas: takes a small bit to configure. gotta watch out that the daemon needs to be stopped when editing the settings file manually.
[23:26] <adas> :o
[23:27] <hitsujiTMO> adas: i don't. i gave up on trying to configure rtorrent when i discovered transmission
[23:27] <adas> hitsujiTMO: aight ill get transmission now, brb
[23:28] <adas> hitsujiTMO: is there a special version that runs in terminal?
[23:28] <adas> like -nox or something
[23:28] <hitsujiTMO> adas: transmission-cli i think is cli only. transmission-daemon is cli + web interface
[23:29] <hitsujiTMO> abas: both of those packages do not require x
[23:29] <adas> transmission-daemon it is then
[23:30] <helo_n> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/dVBcrMbj
[23:31] <hitsujiTMO> helo_n: sudo apt-get purge nvidia-304 && sudo apt-get install --reinstall bumblebee-nvidia
[23:32] <adas> hitsujiTMO: what file do I configure
[23:32] <helo_n> hitsujiTMO: done. do I relog now?
[23:33] <hitsujiTMO> helo_n: reboot.
[23:33] <helo_n> k
[23:33] <helo_n> brb
[23:35] <hitsujiTMO> adas: /etc/transmission-daemon/settings.json         just ensure that the daemon is stopped otherwise it will overwrite what you change. sudo service transmission-daemon stop
[23:35] <adas> thanks mate
[23:36] <maujhsn> Hello folks! I'm running ubuntu-12.04 on a liveUSB. I ran dmesg and am concerned about this message readout: http://pastebin.com/NhZCK5be...How do i correct the problem?
[23:37] <hitsujiTMO> adas: info on the options are here https://trac.transmissionbt.com/wiki/EditConfigFiles
[23:37] <adas> hitsujiTMO: thanks
[23:38] <kostkon> maujhsn, "paste has been removed" better paste it here http://paste.ubuntu.com
[23:38] <hitsujiTMO> maujhsn: if by the message you mean "This paste has been removed!" then you pix it by reuploading the paste
[23:38] <hitsujiTMO> s/pix/fix
[23:42] <jhutchins> maujhsn: It looks like it took care of the problem, but you might want to do sudo shutdown -Fr now to reboot and check the filesystem.
[23:42] <maujhsn> kostkon, hitsujiTMO, Thanks!
[23:43] <maujhsn> Hello folks! I'm running ubuntu-12.04 on a liveUSB. I ran dmesg and am concerned about this message readout: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6636713/...How do i correct the problem?
[23:43] <lubuntu> hi
[23:43] <jhutchins> kostkon: By clerverly trimming the part that's not URL it's easy to reach.
[23:44] <jhutchins> maujhsn: It's better to use paste.ubuntu.com, and try to leave a space after the URL so it's easier to copy and paste.
[23:44] <jhutchins> maujhsn: It looks like it took care of the problem, but you might want to do sudo shutdown -Fr now to reboot and check the filesystem.
[23:44] <kostkon> jhutchins, ooopsie
[23:44] <Guest24488> i want to make ubuntu livecd work from a fat32 usb harddisk with a casper-rw file persistence. is this possible? I have copied the casper directory (from lubuntu iso) to  the fat32 device and managed to boot is
[23:45] <maujhsn> jhutchins, I give that a shot! But, what is the "-FR" switch?
[23:45] <jhutchins> maujhsn: You might want to install and enable smartmontools.  If you continue to see errors it's time for a new disk.
[23:46] <jazzkutya> i want to make ubuntu livecd work from a fat32 usb harddisk with a casper-rw file persistence on same device. is this possible? I have copied the casper directory (from lubuntu iso) to  the fat32 device and managed to boot it. this is a netbook, no cd/dvd drive.
[23:46] <jhutchins> maujhsn: F forces fsck, r means reboot as opposed to h for halt.
[23:46] <jhutchins> maujhsn: The manpage for shutdown is informative and fairly interesting.
[23:47] <jhutchins> jazzkutya: Why does it have to be fat32?
[23:47] <jazzkutya> jhutchins, because i don't want to reformat this usb-harddisk
[23:48] <Beldar> jazzkutya, Many usb loaders have a persistent option up to 4 gigs, however you can make a larger casper-rw partition.
[23:49] <maujhsn> jhutchins I will  give it a shot usually I use, "sudo shutdown -h now"!
[23:49] <jazzkutya> Beldar, please define or elaborate "usb loader"
[23:49] <Beldar> jazzkutya, iso to usb with boot
[23:50] <jazzkutya> Beldar, oh you are talking about usb creators... everyone I've read about up to now erases the drive. that is not good for me.
[23:50] <Lunar_Lander> short question, If I want to upgrade to x64 from x86 now, shall I go for 12.04 or 13.10? and will 14.04 then replace 12.04 as LTS?
[23:50] <hitsujiTMO> jazzkutya: unetbootin doesnt
[23:50] <helo_n> hitsujiTMO: That broke everything. After restarting and then logging in, I get a blank black screen
[23:51] <helo_n> I have the laptop rebooted in the recovery menu now.
[23:51] <jazzkutya> hitsujiTMO, thx, will investigate unetbootin more
[23:51] <hitsujiTMO> helo_n: delete any /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:51] <adas> hitsujiTMO: so i can now apt-get remove rtorrent
[23:52] <helo_n> hitsujiTMO: I don't think I'm good enough with command line to do that.. can you walk me through it?
[23:52] <helo_n> should I select root shell prompt?
[23:52] <hitsujiTMO> helo_n: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:52] <hitsujiTMO> helo_n: ahh you in busybox?
[23:52] <kostkon> Lunar_Lamp, if you want an lts installation right now go with 12.04, if you can wait 4-5 months for 14.04, the next lts, go with 13.10
[23:52] <kostkon> damn
[23:52] <kostkon> Lunar_Lander, ^^
[23:53] <hitsujiTMO> helo_n: rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:53] <helo_n> hitsujiTMO: No I'm at the main menu of recovery mode
[23:53] <helo_n> Say no such directory
[23:53] <helo_n> says no such file or directory*
[23:54] <hitsujiTMO> !text | helo_n try this
[23:55] <Lunar_Lander> thanks kostkon
[23:55] <Lunar_Lander> ah and what is that thing about the Amazon lens in 12.10? is that still in?
[23:55] <kostkon> Lunar_Lander, 13.10? yes, but you can turn it off easily
[23:55] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[23:56] <Lunar_Lander> yeah just found it
[23:56] <Lunar_Lander> disable "use online search results"
[23:56] <Lunar_Lander> is that is?
[23:56] <aFeijo> hi
[23:56] <Lunar_Lander> *it
[23:56] <kostkon> Lunar_Lamp, yes for all the online searches. alternatively, you can turn off any scopes you want individually
[23:56] <Lunar_Lander> ah ok
[23:56] <hitsujiTMO> helo_n: once in text mode you can log in as normal
[23:57] <Lunar_Lander> yeah I just read in the wikipedia that this amazon thing was added from 12.10 on and was considered an issue among people
[23:57] <aFeijo> I need to perma-map my network storage device. I installed mount.nfs, added a line in fstab, but it still dont work...
[23:57] <hitsujiTMO> helo_n: do you have an ethernet cable you can used to get the laptop on the net?
[23:57] <Lunar_Lander> thanks kostkon !
[23:57] <kostkon> Lunar_Lamp, to access the scopes list, click on Filter results in the dash or something like that
[23:57] <Lunar_Lander> ah ok, thanks :)
[23:58] <helo_n> hitsujiTMO: the laptop doesn't have an ethernet port.. I have to use wifi
[23:59] <helo_n> I don't see the kernel line... what am I missing?