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jdmola01:53
ObrienDave!es01:53
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.01:53
SonikkuAmericaObrienDave: Were you planning on speaking Spanish here?02:05
ObrienDaveonly if you understand taco, burrito, enchilada and frijole ;P02:09
SonikkuAmericaEntiendo más de solamente estas palabras02:17
ObrienDaveno, i'm serious, taco, burrito, enchilada and frijole is ALL I understand of spanish ROFL02:18
SonikkuAmericaLMBO02:21
ObrienDaveoh, yea. carne asada and carnitas works also LOL02:22
SonikkuAmericaObrienDave: Big Unit193 is watching us !ot in here :302:22
ObrienDaveahh, he'll get over it ;P02:23
SonikkuAmerica:P02:23
batzyHey guys I'm havin a little issue02:26
batzyI plugged in an hdmi monitor on my xubuntu machine and uhhh02:26
batzywhen i set the monitor to the external02:27
batzythe screen got a bunch of black boxes and such02:27
batzyso i restarted the machine and now the session wont load02:27
batzyim not really sure how to fix it02:27
ObrienDavei have no idea how to fix that either. stick around a bit, someone will know02:29
batzyYeah, I'm just really looking for a way to reset to the default screen02:30
batzyi think i might know of a way actually if i can get to the shell02:30
ObrienDavei think alt-F1 will get you a shell02:30
SonikkuAmericaCtrl+Alt+F102:31
ObrienDaveok, ok PFFFFFFFT ;P02:31
batzyyeah i did that02:32
batzybut like i cant find how to reset the screen here sec ill look it up02:32
ObrienDaveyou might ask in main channel. bunches more people there02:33
batzy?02:34
batzymain channel?02:34
batzywhats the main channel02:34
ObrienDave#ubuntu02:34
ObrienDavethe main difference between Xubuntu and Ubuntu is the DE. Desktop Environment. they are fundamentally the same02:35
ObrienDaveall of the ?buntu versions share the same core02:37
batzyYeah i know that02:37
batzyi usually just get shit though when i do that02:37
ObrienDaveyea, they do tend to get a bit touchy. and some will get touchy about the language here as well ;) LMAO02:39
SonikkuAmerica!language | AHHHH I JUST HEARD A BAD WORD :<02:39
ubottuAHHHH I JUST HEARD A BAD WORD :<: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.02:39
SonikkuAmerica:)02:40
batzy^ just told me to ask in xubuntu02:40
batzyrofl02:40
ObrienDavedon't mind SonikkuAmerica, he's one of the good guys. OH? he WAS one of the good guys ;)02:40
SonikkuAmericaOhoho02:41
batzyyou guys know each other well eh02:41
SonikkuAmericabatzy: HDMI is a little tricky in Xubuntu... first thing I might have you do is disconnect your screen...02:41
* SonikkuAmerica drags Unit193 in by the ear into this conversation02:42
Unit193!ot | SonikkuAmerica02:42
ubottuSonikkuAmerica: #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!02:42
SonikkuAmericaUnit193: Well, actually, if you could tag-team us here, that would be great - we have an HDMI problem in the house.02:43
batzySonikkuAmerica: yes im just trying to get back to my default laptop screen02:43
batzySonikkuAmerica: i dont care if the hdmi works or not02:43
batzybut right now its trying to load the hdmi automatically and it isnt working02:43
SonikkuAmericabatzy: Did you disconnect your screen now?02:43
batzythe hdmi screen yeah?02:43
SonikkuAmericaSo it's disconnected now.02:44
Unit193SonikkuAmerica: Fixed the session won't login issue?02:44
batzyyes02:44
SonikkuAmericaUnit193: Huh?02:44
batzyxfce wont start on my user now SonikkuAmerica02:44
batzywith my normal screen02:44
SonikkuAmericabatzy: Does it loop back to the lightdm login?02:44
batzyno02:45
SonikkuAmericaWhat does it do?02:45
batzyit's just hung up and frozen, no mouse even02:45
batzyi believe its because i set the default screen for this user to the hdmi monitor02:45
SonikkuAmericabatzy: Can you Ctrl+Alt+F1?02:45
batzyyep02:45
SonikkuAmericaLog into the terminal, then type [ sudo service lightdm restart ]02:45
batzySonikkuAmerica: a quick other detail. When i login the screen flashes black and then all it is is the wallpaper and it hangs up02:46
SonikkuAmerica(It should switch into the GUI02:46
SonikkuAmericaJust do what I say for now and report your findings.02:46
batzyyes it did02:46
batzyokay im at the GUI02:47
SonikkuAmericaAt the login?02:47
batzyyes02:47
SonikkuAmericaThe heck? Did I get kicked?02:48
batzywe;cp,e nacl02:48
batzynah it said you left02:48
batzywelcome back*02:49
SonikkuAmericaDid it say "requested by"?02:49
SonikkuAmericaAnd thx02:49
SonikkuAmericaAnyway... what happened when you logged in?02:49
batzyuhhh02:50
batzythe screen goes black02:50
SonikkuAmericaAnd dies a horrible death?02:50
batzyit's just...black02:50
batzyi mean i can tell you why02:50
batzyit's because it's looking for that hdmi monitor02:50
batzyi just need to reset the default monitor for this user02:51
batzybut im not familiar with what CLI utilities can do that02:51
SonikkuAmericaTry [ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ]02:52
batzywhat does that do02:54
ObrienDavereconfigures the xserver02:54
batzykk02:54
batzyi typed it in02:54
batzyhold on one sec02:54
ObrienDaveyour display02:54
SonikkuAmericaYou may want to restart lightdm after that too02:55
batzyk the screen flashed black02:55
batzythe back wallpaper is up...02:55
batzyannddd nothing02:55
SonikkuAmericaRight-click?02:55
batzynope. there's no cursor either02:55
SonikkuAmericacan you pastebin the output of /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? (Install pastebinit first)02:56
batzyyeah whats the syntax for pastebinit02:56
* ObrienDave suggests hooking HDMI back up and seeing if you can turn it off from there02:56
batzywait hold on im just gonna connect to irc on that my sachine02:56
batzyObrienDave: no02:56
ObrienDaveok02:56
batzythe screen got a buncha black squares and such02:57
batzywasnt pretty02:57
ObrienDaveok, gotcha02:57
batzyalright ill be right back02:57
batzyAlrighty02:58
batzywhat did you lot want me to do again?02:58
SonikkuAmericaReconnect your HDMI monitor, black squares and all, and see if you can turn off the screen from there.02:58
batzyNo like02:59
batzyIt didnt' load like that02:59
batzyit freezes02:59
batzyyou wanted what file again?02:59
SonikkuAmerica/etc/X11/xorg.conf02:59
ObrienDavewhat about xrandr?02:59
batzySonikkuAmerica: it doesn't exist :o03:00
SonikkuAmericaYou don't have an xorg.conf file?! :o03:00
batzyno I guess not.03:00
batzyNot there at least03:00
SonikkuAmericaYou could try Super+T, then [ xrandr -s 800x600 ] first03:01
batzySuper?03:01
batzywat03:01
batzyWHATS THE SUPER BUTTON03:01
SonikkuAmericaIf that doesn't work, [ xrandr -s 1024x768 ]03:01
SonikkuAmericaThe one with the Windows logo on it03:02
SonikkuAmerica(usually)03:02
batzyand where do i want to press super t?03:02
SonikkuAmerica(1) Ctrl+Alt+F7 (2) Super+T (3) [ xrandr -s 1024x768 ] <ENTER>03:02
batzyis something supposed to show up when i press super t?03:03
batzycuz like03:03
batzythe screen is just black over there03:03
ObrienDaveyres, you should get a terminal screen03:03
ObrienDave*yes03:03
batzynah, thats not working03:04
batzyit doesnt do anything03:04
SonikkuAmericabatzy: Does something appear in the garbled portion of the screen?03:04
batzyit's odd though because i can login on my guest account too03:04
batzynope03:04
SonikkuAmericaYou see this is where the one hundred and ninety-third unit could step in if he's around.03:05
batzy?03:06
batzyand yeah the guest account works perfectly..03:06
SonikkuAmericaTry this: Hit Ctrl+Alt+F1, log in (if you aren't already) and run [ rm -rf ~/.Xauthority ] , then restart lightdm.03:07
batzyk03:11
SonikkuAmericaAny luck?03:11
batzynoope03:12
batzyit dims my screen tho lol03:12
ObrienDavedang03:12
batzy:(03:13
SonikkuAmericaMaybe doge'ing about it would help.03:13
Unit193No.03:13
SonikkuAmericaWell, I'm outta ideas. :(03:13
batzydoge?03:13
SonikkuAmericaI won't explain that here, Unit193 hates it.03:14
SonikkuAmericaAlso it's !ot03:14
batzyokkk so what now03:14
SonikkuAmericaGoogle? (I already did, your sitch seems to be a common problem)03:15
batzyIf it's common how come there's no way to fix it..03:15
SonikkuAmericaAre you using a proprietary driver?03:17
batzyuhh03:17
batzyjust the intel one03:17
batzyidk? no i guess not03:17
SonikkuAmericaxserver-xorg-video-intel ?03:17
batzyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6632307/03:18
batzyidk if that will tell you anything, i didnt look at it03:18
SonikkuAmericaProbably, if you have Intel HD graphics. Without your /etc/X11/Xorg.conf I can't tell.03:18
SonikkuAmerica(We're kind of at an impasse without it)03:19
batzyi have intel hd03:19
batzywhen i do xrandr --prop it says 'cant open display'03:20
batzydfl03:21
batzysd03:21
batzyad03:21
batzybye03:22
SonikkuAmericar303:22
SonikkuAmerica>sigh< -1 for me03:22
ObrienDavewow03:25
ObrienDavehe just *poof* like that?03:25
ObrienDavewell, dang. me thinks me need some sleep. c ya03:27
SonikkuAmericabai03:27
batzySonikkuAmerica, I fixed it04:19
jdmI remember using Kubuntu and Ubuntu live DVD/CD/USB's04:37
jdmand something worked on the Ubuntu liveCD but it didnt work on Kubuntu04:37
jdmwhich is why i wanted to try out Xubuntu first04:37
jdmim back in windows 7 now04:37
jdmit is using 1.7GB of RAM04:38
jdmand i have xchat and pidgin open and that's it04:38
batzyI used to use Arch04:39
batzyThen I went to Gentoo, and now I'm on Xubuntu04:39
jdmive used almost all of them04:42
jdmbut i havent used linux on the desktop in years04:42
jdmi started out on Slackware and Mandrake Linux04:42
holsteinjgm: its more likely different versions. like, ubuntu 12.04 "worked" and kubuntu 13.10 "didnt work"04:54
holsteinjgm: the kernels and the software support are much the same..04:54
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ObrienDaveMerry Krishna, Bah Humbug, and all that ;P10:33
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Guest28236hola!!10:57
Guest28236hello?10:57
Guest28236someone here??10:57
ObrienDavenope10:58
batzyYes Guest2823610:58
batzyI am here10:58
Guest28236hello!!10:58
batzyHi.10:58
Guest28236I have a problem with the card sound10:58
Guest28236is the integrated ac9710:58
Guest28236doesnt work10:59
batzygreat.10:59
batzy'doesnt work'10:59
Guest28236motherboard gigabyte ga7va10:59
batzydid it ever work?10:59
batzywhat audio driver you have? is that card supported?10:59
Guest28236I think that yes11:00
Guest28236the update solves the problem??11:00
Guest28236I have xubuntu 13.10, new installation11:00
Guest28236what is the best format for xubuntu (old machine 2004) , ext2 ext3 or ext4 or other??11:06
cfhowlettext4 is the default and works for most everyone ...11:06
Guest28236ok thacks11:09
Guest28236thanks11:10
jonas_VLChi again!!12:32
jonas_VLCthe sound works12:32
jonas_VLCbut, mmm the botton of control sound dont works12:33
jonas_VLConly this12:33
jonas_VLCall ok12:33
jonas_VLCxbmc is great for this version!!!12:33
jonas_VLCbye!!12:34
brihatSome application started to write into the log file upstart/startxfce4.log, that my /home partition run out of space. Is there a way to limit the file size of that log file?13:13
cfhowlettbrihat, great question!  IDK the answer though.  if no answer here, try #ubuntu or #ubuntu-server13:13
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popschhi. I can't mount a usb drive. I already gave my account the permissions under system -> users -> permissions16:54
popschI can see the drive in thunar, but when I click on it, it says 'not authorized'16:55
popschI can mount it as root, but my parents won't understand doing this all the time16:55
bazhangput it in fstab?17:00
popschbazhang, but it's always a different sdX, depending on how many other drives are attached17:02
bazhanghow many are we talking17:02
popschI don't know how many they will plug in, and as usual with parents, they're computer illiterate and short tempered17:03
bazhangand is this a usb hdd, or a usb stick17:03
popschit's a camera17:03
popschbut lsusb lists it as a card reader (sdc at the moment)17:03
bazhang!find gmtp17:03
ubottuFound: gmtp17:03
bazhangsome cameras can be read as media storage devices17:04
bazhangcheck it's set that way17:04
popschhm. but I can mount it via mount /dev/sdc17:04
bazhanginstalling gmtp may help as well17:04
popschit's also visible in Thunar17:04
popschas a mountable drive. there's somewhere a quirk in the permission system17:05
bazhanghighly doubtful17:05
popschbeats me. I just rebooted and it automounted the drive17:06
bazhangsounds like an unclean removal tbh17:06
popschI installed usbmount, because I read that ubuntu-based servers need it17:06
popschthe system is based on xubuntu, but I thought, better give it a try17:07
bazhangand your parents are going to working with a server?17:07
bazhangnot sure what "based on xubuntu" means there17:08
bazhanga server has no gui17:08
popschno, it's a desktop-based xubuntu17:08
popschI just installed it, because I thought it might help17:08
popschand it did17:08
bazhangxubuntu is gui, ie desktop17:08
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popschbazhang, no, I meant I installed the system from a xubuntu install image17:09
popschso it's ubuntu + xfce17:09
bazhangdid you mean a distro not actually xubuntu, but based on it?17:09
popschI mean the distro17:09
bazhangso ubuntu and xubuntu-desktop or the like17:09
popschcorrect17:10
bazhangthats still ubuntu17:10
tnwnsfdoes xubuntu 12.04 have pulseaudio working by default ?17:10
bazhangas is kubuntu, lubuntu, edubuntu, ubuntustudio, and uh17:10
brainwashtnwnsf: yes it does17:10
popschbazhang, thanks for the responses. it turns out that my install was missing pmount + usbmount17:11
bazhangok17:11
tnwnsfbrainwash, does adjusting the audio in applications change the system-level output ?17:11
tnwnsfmaster-level*17:12
brainwashdepends17:12
bazhangwhich apps tnwnsf17:12
popschtnwnsf, I think if it's the only application then yes, otherwise no17:12
popschI meant that if only one application is running, then it affects the master-level, otherwise it does not17:12
tnwnsfwell vlc on debian is retarded, wheneever i change the volume it changes the master-volume as well17:12
bazhangnever seen that happen17:13
tnwnsfso i'm hoping xubuntu doesn't do it17:13
tnwnsfbazhang, i've been banging my head trying to figure it out. it's retarded and annoying17:13
bazhangof course, vlc goes above 100% for volume, so who knows17:13
tnwnsfbazhang, even if i adjust audio lower than 100% it adjust master as well17:14
bazhangsounds like a bug then tnwnsf17:14
bazhangdoes mplayer do this on your system as well?17:14
popschtnwnsf, I just tested it17:15
popschtnwnsf, if you crank up the volume in vlc beyond the master-level, then vlc will increase the master-level17:15
bazhangheh17:15
popschif you then decrease the volume, the master-level will stay where it is and just the application-specific level will decrease17:15
tnwnsflet me switch over to xfce, just a sec17:16
popschso: app-level 10, master level 15; you crank up the volume to max: app-level 100, master level 100; you decrease the volume: appl-level 50, master level 10017:16
bazhanghe quit17:16
tnwnsfpopsch, try just adjusting volume down, the master is also reduced17:20
bazhangso: app-level 10, master level 15; you crank up the volume to max: app-level 100, master level 100; you decrease the volume: appl-level 50, master level 100 tnwnsf17:20
bazhangwhat he posted right after you quit17:21
tnwnsfbazhang, yeap17:21
us_0gbThat's lame. Most sound applications have a separate volume level where <application sound> * <system sound> == <actual output>.17:22
SuperEngineerIn case y'all hadn't noticed - it's /Christmas - have a good onne folks. ;)18:31
conorhey20:19
conorHaving trouble with terminal colors / zsh20:19
conorhttp://i.imgur.com/2jsy5tB.png20:20
conorfor some reason the arrow shows up as green20:21
conorwhen it's supposed to be red20:21
Meerkatconor, 3 of them look red. in the middle20:24
conorMeerkat: So, it stays red if I do something wrong ... like try to cd into a non-exisitant directory20:25
conorThis is probably more of a zsh question rather than a xbuntu question come to think of it20:26
brainwashconor: yes, you better ask in #zsh :)20:28
mortrevere_Hi all21:05
mortrevere_Is this the right channel for Xubuntu support ?21:06
Meerkatyes21:06
Meerkatbienvenue21:07
mortrevere_Great ! So here's the problem : i just got my vaio pro 13 for xmas (really nice machine btw), but it came with Win 8 preinstalled ... I'm a big xubuntu fan since 2 years and wanted to install it (alone, not alongside win 8)21:08
mortrevere_So i proceeded to the installation, everything went fine and the system seems to be installed, but i am unable to boot on it at all21:09
mortrevere_When i power up the computer, i get the VAIO splash screen, then it goes black, same splash screen again, and then "Your VAIO computer was unable to start windows" (oh, no shit, I wiped the disk twice ...)21:10
Meerkatwhen you installed xubuntu did you check to make sure you overwrote all partitions of the drive?21:11
TheSheepmortrevere_: make sure you have secure boot disabled in bios21:11
mortrevere_As this has never happened to me with previous installations I was wondering if some issues were known about installing in UEFI and all ? (since it's the first time i'm trying to install on this, i always did it on regular BIOS machines)21:11
Meerkatwin8 seem to have several partitions, some which are only used to boot for windows8.21:11
mortrevere_TheSheep: done21:11
mortrevere_i'm struggling with this since this morning actually21:12
mortrevere_Meerkat: I deleted all partitions and created new ones for xubuntu21:12
mortrevere_So ... windows should have disappeared right ? Why is the UEFI trying to boot on it ?21:13
TheSheepthey probably just used the word 'windows' in the message instead of 'system'21:14
mortrevere_(i tried everything from boot-repair to replacing .efi file on /boot by hand ... getting kinda stuck here)21:14
mortrevere_TheSheep: yeah probably21:15
TheSheepif all else fails, you could ask the Sony support, after all they got money for it21:15
TheSheepjust don't let them say that they don't support linux, this is not a problem with linux21:16
mortrevere_that's right, do you think they support linux installations ? (i don't really wan't to call to hear "just reinstall windows" as a solution)21:16
TheSheeplinux didn't even boot yet21:16
Meerkatmortrevere_, did you to an advanced install or just pretty much click next all the way through when installing Xubuntu?21:17
Meerkatif advanced, try a normal "easy" install and see if that boots.21:17
TheSheepI wish this was true: http://xkcd.com/806/21:17
mortrevere_Meerkat: during the day I installed the thing about 6 times, advanced and basic, nothing works21:17
Meerkatmortrevere_, does it say anything about missing boot device?21:19
mortrevere_TheSheep: i'll try the "shibboleet" thing then, i guess ...21:19
ozberkhi guys21:19
Meerkat...when booting21:19
TheSheepmortrevere_: good luck21:20
mortrevere_Meerkat: "system couldn't be found"21:20
TheSheepmortrevere_: oh, I assume you googled your laptop's make and model with 'ubuntu' already21:20
ozberkI need some help with that  http://u1312.hizliresim.com/1j/t/vw81k.png   I installed the xfce4-mixer but the icon on the pannel is so big how can I change it21:21
TheSheepozberk: I'm not sure you can21:21
TheSheepozberk: I mean, not easily21:22
Meerkatmortrevere_, in bios boot options, can you see the hard drive or an entry named "ubuntu"?21:22
ozberkTheShepp I would like to use standart pluseaudio applet but it is not work21:22
mortrevere_TheSheep: let's say that half of the google page for "Vaio pro 13 ubuntu" is purple :(21:22
mortrevere_Meerkat: the thing is that there are only 2 things in the boot options : external device (USB) or Internal SSD21:23
mortrevere_oh well i found something else http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeNTtn231cU21:23
TheSheepmortrevere_: it's not here? http://www.linlap.com/sony21:24
mortrevere_looks like a solution ?21:24
mortrevere_TheSheep: no21:24
TheSheepwell, at least you know it works for somebody21:24
uBUXUBumerry christmas21:25
mortrevere_yeah, i was thinking it may be impossible21:25
mortrevere_(which is very unlikely but who knows what's happening with secure boot and windows 8)21:25
TheSheepmortrevere_: so did you try http://askubuntu.com/questions/360285/13-10-on-vaio-pro-with-uefi ?21:25
mortrevere_yep that's one of this first things i tried21:26
Meerkatmortrevere_, does it have a cd drive?21:27
Meerkatodd question, I know. It's just that I had massive problems with booting a computer that I installed via a USB memory stick.21:28
mortrevere_no cd drive, the thing is to thin ahah21:30
mortrevere_a real mac book air, 2000€ cheaper21:30
mortrevere_i'm gonna try the method of the guy from the video21:31
mortrevere_ok i gave up on installing in UEFI mode, works like a charm in Legacy mode !22:11
mortrevere_too bad but ...22:11
mortrevere_thanks everybody22:11
TheSheeptoo bad22:11
TheSheepbut yeah, it's important that it works22:12
TheSheepand kudos for getting rid of windows :)22:12
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