=== TheDrums is now known as DalekSec === ponbiki_ is now known as ponbiki [01:53] ola [01:53] !es [01:53] En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. [02:05] ObrienDave: Were you planning on speaking Spanish here? [02:09] only if you understand taco, burrito, enchilada and frijole ;P [02:17] Entiendo más de solamente estas palabras [02:18] no, i'm serious, taco, burrito, enchilada and frijole is ALL I understand of spanish ROFL [02:21] LMBO [02:22] oh, yea. carne asada and carnitas works also LOL [02:22] ObrienDave: Big Unit193 is watching us !ot in here :3 [02:23] ahh, he'll get over it ;P [02:23] :P [02:26] Hey guys I'm havin a little issue [02:26] I plugged in an hdmi monitor on my xubuntu machine and uhhh [02:27] when i set the monitor to the external [02:27] the screen got a bunch of black boxes and such [02:27] so i restarted the machine and now the session wont load [02:27] im not really sure how to fix it [02:29] i have no idea how to fix that either. stick around a bit, someone will know [02:30] Yeah, I'm just really looking for a way to reset to the default screen [02:30] i think i might know of a way actually if i can get to the shell [02:30] i think alt-F1 will get you a shell [02:31] Ctrl+Alt+F1 [02:31] ok, ok PFFFFFFFT ;P [02:32] yeah i did that [02:32] but like i cant find how to reset the screen here sec ill look it up [02:33] you might ask in main channel. bunches more people there [02:34] ? [02:34] main channel? [02:34] whats the main channel [02:34] #ubuntu [02:35] the main difference between Xubuntu and Ubuntu is the DE. Desktop Environment. they are fundamentally the same [02:37] all of the ?buntu versions share the same core [02:37] Yeah i know that [02:37] i usually just get shit though when i do that [02:39] yea, they do tend to get a bit touchy. and some will get touchy about the language here as well ;) LMAO [02:39] !language | AHHHH I JUST HEARD A BAD WORD :< [02:39] AHHHH I JUST HEARD A BAD WORD :<: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. [02:40] :) [02:40] ^ just told me to ask in xubuntu [02:40] rofl [02:40] don't mind SonikkuAmerica, he's one of the good guys. OH? he WAS one of the good guys ;) [02:41] Ohoho [02:41] you guys know each other well eh [02:41] batzy: HDMI is a little tricky in Xubuntu... first thing I might have you do is disconnect your screen... [02:42] * SonikkuAmerica drags Unit193 in by the ear into this conversation [02:42] !ot | SonikkuAmerica [02:42] SonikkuAmerica: #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! [02:43] Unit193: Well, actually, if you could tag-team us here, that would be great - we have an HDMI problem in the house. [02:43] SonikkuAmerica: yes im just trying to get back to my default laptop screen [02:43] SonikkuAmerica: i dont care if the hdmi works or not [02:43] but right now its trying to load the hdmi automatically and it isnt working [02:43] batzy: Did you disconnect your screen now? [02:43] the hdmi screen yeah? [02:44] So it's disconnected now. [02:44] SonikkuAmerica: Fixed the session won't login issue? [02:44] yes [02:44] Unit193: Huh? [02:44] xfce wont start on my user now SonikkuAmerica [02:44] with my normal screen [02:44] batzy: Does it loop back to the lightdm login? [02:45] no [02:45] What does it do? [02:45] it's just hung up and frozen, no mouse even [02:45] i believe its because i set the default screen for this user to the hdmi monitor [02:45] batzy: Can you Ctrl+Alt+F1? [02:45] yep [02:45] Log into the terminal, then type [ sudo service lightdm restart ] [02:46] SonikkuAmerica: a quick other detail. When i login the screen flashes black and then all it is is the wallpaper and it hangs up [02:46] (It should switch into the GUI [02:46] Just do what I say for now and report your findings. [02:46] yes it did [02:47] okay im at the GUI [02:47] At the login? [02:47] yes [02:48] The heck? Did I get kicked? [02:48] we;cp,e nacl [02:48] nah it said you left [02:49] welcome back* [02:49] Did it say "requested by"? [02:49] And thx [02:49] Anyway... what happened when you logged in? [02:50] uhhh [02:50] the screen goes black [02:50] And dies a horrible death? [02:50] it's just...black [02:50] i mean i can tell you why [02:50] it's because it's looking for that hdmi monitor [02:51] i just need to reset the default monitor for this user [02:51] but im not familiar with what CLI utilities can do that [02:52] Try [ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ] [02:54] what does that do [02:54] reconfigures the xserver [02:54] kk [02:54] i typed it in [02:54] hold on one sec [02:54] your display [02:55] You may want to restart lightdm after that too [02:55] k the screen flashed black [02:55] the back wallpaper is up... [02:55] annddd nothing [02:55] Right-click? [02:55] nope. there's no cursor either [02:56] can you pastebin the output of /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? (Install pastebinit first) [02:56] yeah whats the syntax for pastebinit [02:56] * ObrienDave suggests hooking HDMI back up and seeing if you can turn it off from there [02:56] wait hold on im just gonna connect to irc on that my sachine [02:56] ObrienDave: no [02:56] ok [02:57] the screen got a buncha black squares and such [02:57] wasnt pretty [02:57] ok, gotcha [02:57] alright ill be right back [02:58] Alrighty [02:58] what did you lot want me to do again? [02:58] Reconnect your HDMI monitor, black squares and all, and see if you can turn off the screen from there. [02:59] No like [02:59] It didnt' load like that [02:59] it freezes [02:59] you wanted what file again? [02:59] /etc/X11/xorg.conf [02:59] what about xrandr? [03:00] SonikkuAmerica: it doesn't exist :o [03:00] You don't have an xorg.conf file?! :o [03:00] no I guess not. [03:00] Not there at least [03:01] You could try Super+T, then [ xrandr -s 800x600 ] first [03:01] Super? [03:01] wat [03:01] WHATS THE SUPER BUTTON [03:01] If that doesn't work, [ xrandr -s 1024x768 ] [03:02] The one with the Windows logo on it [03:02] (usually) [03:02] and where do i want to press super t? [03:02] (1) Ctrl+Alt+F7 (2) Super+T (3) [ xrandr -s 1024x768 ] [03:03] is something supposed to show up when i press super t? [03:03] cuz like [03:03] the screen is just black over there [03:03] yres, you should get a terminal screen [03:03] *yes [03:04] nah, thats not working [03:04] it doesnt do anything [03:04] batzy: Does something appear in the garbled portion of the screen? [03:04] it's odd though because i can login on my guest account too [03:04] nope [03:05] You see this is where the one hundred and ninety-third unit could step in if he's around. [03:06] ? [03:06] and yeah the guest account works perfectly.. [03:07] Try this: Hit Ctrl+Alt+F1, log in (if you aren't already) and run [ rm -rf ~/.Xauthority ] , then restart lightdm. [03:11] k [03:11] Any luck? [03:12] noope [03:12] it dims my screen tho lol [03:12] dang [03:13] :( [03:13] Maybe doge'ing about it would help. [03:13] No. [03:13] Well, I'm outta ideas. :( [03:13] doge? [03:14] I won't explain that here, Unit193 hates it. [03:14] Also it's !ot [03:14] okkk so what now [03:15] Google? (I already did, your sitch seems to be a common problem) [03:15] If it's common how come there's no way to fix it.. [03:17] Are you using a proprietary driver? [03:17] uhh [03:17] just the intel one [03:17] idk? no i guess not [03:17] xserver-xorg-video-intel ? [03:18] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6632307/ [03:18] idk if that will tell you anything, i didnt look at it [03:18] Probably, if you have Intel HD graphics. Without your /etc/X11/Xorg.conf I can't tell. [03:19] (We're kind of at an impasse without it) [03:19] i have intel hd [03:20] when i do xrandr --prop it says 'cant open display' [03:21] dfl [03:21] sd [03:21] ad [03:22] bye [03:22] r3 [03:22] >sigh< -1 for me [03:25] wow [03:25] he just *poof* like that? [03:27] well, dang. me thinks me need some sleep. c ya [03:27] bai [04:19] SonikkuAmerica, I fixed it [04:37] I remember using Kubuntu and Ubuntu live DVD/CD/USB's [04:37] and something worked on the Ubuntu liveCD but it didnt work on Kubuntu [04:37] which is why i wanted to try out Xubuntu first [04:37] im back in windows 7 now [04:38] it is using 1.7GB of RAM [04:38] and i have xchat and pidgin open and that's it [04:39] I used to use Arch [04:39] Then I went to Gentoo, and now I'm on Xubuntu [04:42] ive used almost all of them [04:42] but i havent used linux on the desktop in years [04:42] i started out on Slackware and Mandrake Linux [04:54] jgm: its more likely different versions. like, ubuntu 12.04 "worked" and kubuntu 13.10 "didnt work" [04:54] jgm: the kernels and the software support are much the same.. === idleone_ is now known as io [10:33] Merry Krishna, Bah Humbug, and all that ;P === jonas_ is now known as Guest28236 [10:57] hola!! [10:57] hello? [10:57] someone here?? [10:58] nope [10:58] Yes Guest28236 [10:58] I am here [10:58] hello!! [10:58] Hi. [10:58] I have a problem with the card sound [10:58] is the integrated ac97 [10:59] doesnt work [10:59] great. [10:59] 'doesnt work' [10:59] motherboard gigabyte ga7va [10:59] did it ever work? [10:59] what audio driver you have? is that card supported? [11:00] I think that yes [11:00] the update solves the problem?? [11:00] I have xubuntu 13.10, new installation [11:06] what is the best format for xubuntu (old machine 2004) , ext2 ext3 or ext4 or other?? [11:06] ext4 is the default and works for most everyone ... [11:09] ok thacks [11:10] thanks [12:32] hi again!! [12:32] the sound works [12:33] but, mmm the botton of control sound dont works [12:33] only this [12:33] all ok [12:33] xbmc is great for this version!!! [12:34] bye!! [13:13] Some application started to write into the log file upstart/startxfce4.log, that my /home partition run out of space. Is there a way to limit the file size of that log file? [13:13] brihat, great question! IDK the answer though. if no answer here, try #ubuntu or #ubuntu-server === xGrind is now known as xGrind-AFK [16:54] hi. I can't mount a usb drive. I already gave my account the permissions under system -> users -> permissions [16:55] I can see the drive in thunar, but when I click on it, it says 'not authorized' [16:55] I can mount it as root, but my parents won't understand doing this all the time [17:00] put it in fstab? [17:02] bazhang, but it's always a different sdX, depending on how many other drives are attached [17:02] how many are we talking [17:03] I don't know how many they will plug in, and as usual with parents, they're computer illiterate and short tempered [17:03] and is this a usb hdd, or a usb stick [17:03] it's a camera [17:03] but lsusb lists it as a card reader (sdc at the moment) [17:03] !find gmtp [17:03] Found: gmtp [17:04] some cameras can be read as media storage devices [17:04] check it's set that way [17:04] hm. but I can mount it via mount /dev/sdc [17:04] installing gmtp may help as well [17:04] it's also visible in Thunar [17:05] as a mountable drive. there's somewhere a quirk in the permission system [17:05] highly doubtful [17:06] beats me. I just rebooted and it automounted the drive [17:06] sounds like an unclean removal tbh [17:06] I installed usbmount, because I read that ubuntu-based servers need it [17:07] the system is based on xubuntu, but I thought, better give it a try [17:07] and your parents are going to working with a server? [17:08] not sure what "based on xubuntu" means there [17:08] a server has no gui [17:08] no, it's a desktop-based xubuntu [17:08] I just installed it, because I thought it might help [17:08] and it did [17:08] xubuntu is gui, ie desktop === xGrind-AFK is now known as xGrind [17:09] bazhang, no, I meant I installed the system from a xubuntu install image [17:09] so it's ubuntu + xfce [17:09] did you mean a distro not actually xubuntu, but based on it? [17:09] I mean the distro [17:09] so ubuntu and xubuntu-desktop or the like [17:10] correct [17:10] thats still ubuntu [17:10] does xubuntu 12.04 have pulseaudio working by default ? [17:10] as is kubuntu, lubuntu, edubuntu, ubuntustudio, and uh [17:10] tnwnsf: yes it does [17:11] bazhang, thanks for the responses. it turns out that my install was missing pmount + usbmount [17:11] ok [17:11] brainwash, does adjusting the audio in applications change the system-level output ? [17:12] master-level* [17:12] depends [17:12] which apps tnwnsf [17:12] tnwnsf, I think if it's the only application then yes, otherwise no [17:12] I meant that if only one application is running, then it affects the master-level, otherwise it does not [17:12] well vlc on debian is retarded, wheneever i change the volume it changes the master-volume as well [17:13] never seen that happen [17:13] so i'm hoping xubuntu doesn't do it [17:13] bazhang, i've been banging my head trying to figure it out. it's retarded and annoying [17:13] of course, vlc goes above 100% for volume, so who knows [17:14] bazhang, even if i adjust audio lower than 100% it adjust master as well [17:14] sounds like a bug then tnwnsf [17:14] does mplayer do this on your system as well? [17:15] tnwnsf, I just tested it [17:15] tnwnsf, if you crank up the volume in vlc beyond the master-level, then vlc will increase the master-level [17:15] heh [17:15] if you then decrease the volume, the master-level will stay where it is and just the application-specific level will decrease [17:16] let me switch over to xfce, just a sec [17:16] so: app-level 10, master level 15; you crank up the volume to max: app-level 100, master level 100; you decrease the volume: appl-level 50, master level 100 [17:16] he quit [17:20] popsch, try just adjusting volume down, the master is also reduced [17:20] so: app-level 10, master level 15; you crank up the volume to max: app-level 100, master level 100; you decrease the volume: appl-level 50, master level 100 tnwnsf [17:21] what he posted right after you quit [17:21] bazhang, yeap [17:22] That's lame. Most sound applications have a separate volume level where * == . [18:31] In case y'all hadn't noticed - it's /Christmas - have a good onne folks. ;) [20:19] hey [20:19] Having trouble with terminal colors / zsh [20:20] http://i.imgur.com/2jsy5tB.png [20:21] for some reason the arrow shows up as green [20:21] when it's supposed to be red [20:24] conor, 3 of them look red. in the middle [20:25] Meerkat: So, it stays red if I do something wrong ... like try to cd into a non-exisitant directory [20:26] This is probably more of a zsh question rather than a xbuntu question come to think of it [20:28] conor: yes, you better ask in #zsh :) [21:05] Hi all [21:06] Is this the right channel for Xubuntu support ? [21:06] yes [21:07] bienvenue [21:08] Great ! So here's the problem : i just got my vaio pro 13 for xmas (really nice machine btw), but it came with Win 8 preinstalled ... I'm a big xubuntu fan since 2 years and wanted to install it (alone, not alongside win 8) [21:09] So i proceeded to the installation, everything went fine and the system seems to be installed, but i am unable to boot on it at all [21:10] When i power up the computer, i get the VAIO splash screen, then it goes black, same splash screen again, and then "Your VAIO computer was unable to start windows" (oh, no shit, I wiped the disk twice ...) [21:11] when you installed xubuntu did you check to make sure you overwrote all partitions of the drive? [21:11] mortrevere_: make sure you have secure boot disabled in bios [21:11] As this has never happened to me with previous installations I was wondering if some issues were known about installing in UEFI and all ? (since it's the first time i'm trying to install on this, i always did it on regular BIOS machines) [21:11] win8 seem to have several partitions, some which are only used to boot for windows8. [21:11] TheSheep: done [21:12] i'm struggling with this since this morning actually [21:12] Meerkat: I deleted all partitions and created new ones for xubuntu [21:13] So ... windows should have disappeared right ? Why is the UEFI trying to boot on it ? [21:14] they probably just used the word 'windows' in the message instead of 'system' [21:14] (i tried everything from boot-repair to replacing .efi file on /boot by hand ... getting kinda stuck here) [21:15] TheSheep: yeah probably [21:15] if all else fails, you could ask the Sony support, after all they got money for it [21:16] just don't let them say that they don't support linux, this is not a problem with linux [21:16] that's right, do you think they support linux installations ? (i don't really wan't to call to hear "just reinstall windows" as a solution) [21:16] linux didn't even boot yet [21:17] mortrevere_, did you to an advanced install or just pretty much click next all the way through when installing Xubuntu? [21:17] if advanced, try a normal "easy" install and see if that boots. [21:17] I wish this was true: http://xkcd.com/806/ [21:17] Meerkat: during the day I installed the thing about 6 times, advanced and basic, nothing works [21:19] mortrevere_, does it say anything about missing boot device? [21:19] TheSheep: i'll try the "shibboleet" thing then, i guess ... [21:19] hi guys [21:19] ...when booting [21:20] mortrevere_: good luck [21:20] Meerkat: "system couldn't be found" [21:20] mortrevere_: oh, I assume you googled your laptop's make and model with 'ubuntu' already [21:21] I need some help with that http://u1312.hizliresim.com/1j/t/vw81k.png I installed the xfce4-mixer but the icon on the pannel is so big how can I change it [21:21] ozberk: I'm not sure you can [21:22] ozberk: I mean, not easily [21:22] mortrevere_, in bios boot options, can you see the hard drive or an entry named "ubuntu"? [21:22] TheShepp I would like to use standart pluseaudio applet but it is not work [21:22] TheSheep: let's say that half of the google page for "Vaio pro 13 ubuntu" is purple :( [21:23] Meerkat: the thing is that there are only 2 things in the boot options : external device (USB) or Internal SSD [21:23] oh well i found something else http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeNTtn231cU [21:24] mortrevere_: it's not here? http://www.linlap.com/sony [21:24] looks like a solution ? [21:24] TheSheep: no [21:24] well, at least you know it works for somebody [21:25] merry christmas [21:25] yeah, i was thinking it may be impossible [21:25] (which is very unlikely but who knows what's happening with secure boot and windows 8) [21:25] mortrevere_: so did you try http://askubuntu.com/questions/360285/13-10-on-vaio-pro-with-uefi ? [21:26] yep that's one of this first things i tried [21:27] mortrevere_, does it have a cd drive? [21:28] odd question, I know. It's just that I had massive problems with booting a computer that I installed via a USB memory stick. [21:30] no cd drive, the thing is to thin ahah [21:30] a real mac book air, 2000€ cheaper [21:31] i'm gonna try the method of the guy from the video [22:11] ok i gave up on installing in UEFI mode, works like a charm in Legacy mode ! [22:11] too bad but ... [22:11] thanks everybody [22:11] too bad [22:12] but yeah, it's important that it works [22:12] and kudos for getting rid of windows :) === ROPA is now known as PITA === PITA is now known as ROPA