=== doko__ is now known as doko === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [06:41] Hi all. Anyone have any suggestions for dual head pico-itx SBCs that would be able to run ubuntu ARM? === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [13:19] hi. small question. is it possible to build ubuntu touch without using and depending on android? i want a ubuntu linux distro with ubuntu touch. how can this be maked the best and easy way? any known instructions ? === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [16:32] Hello, does anyone know how I could create my own armhf rootfs? [17:11] zeorin, you could start from an ubuntu-core tarball [17:12] aalternatively, install qemu-user-static and use qemu-debootstrap to create an armhf chroot [17:36] I'm wary of the core install because the device I want to use it on doesn't have ethernet... [17:37] It's an Asus Transformer Prime [17:37] I've got ubuntu running on it currently using instructions found here http://lifeinarootshell.blogspot.it/2013/03/howto.html [17:39] but after an update to 13.10 lightdm won't start, not authorized to connect to networks, unity (if using startx) is just a black screen except for the cursor, when I ran do-release-upgrade I had to prefix the command with LC_ALL=C.UTF-8 because that wasn't set... Just problems all around... I figure a fresh install starting in saucy would be better [17:40] I'm currently trying it with rootstock even though it's deprecated... It seems that live-build. is the recommended method nowadays... But there are no clear instructions on how to build an armhf saucy rootfs using that tool.... And obviously it's Xmas time, so family wants me around and I don't really have time right now to figure out exactly how to get out of that what I need [17:41] If you know of any clear instructions online somewhere that would be A+ [17:42] BTW, thanks for responding, I've asked several questions in this channel (even before the festive times), and even though there's many users logged in, no one has ever answered :) [17:51] rootstock seemed to have failed, I can't find a qemu-debootstrap package [17:53] zeorin: What was wrong with using ubuntu-core, exactly? [17:54] no wifi support included, afaik... If you know a way to add that after install then I would be happy :) [17:54] The "LC_ALL=C.UTF-8" bit should be entirely unnecessary for an upgrade, unless you were just trying to avoid Perl being a bit verbose because you SSHed in from a machine that set a different locale. [17:54] well, you see it was necessary because the initial image and installation instructions I had never had it set... Also reconfiguring locales didn't help [17:55] No, I mean it's was unnecessary. As in, not necessary. What made you think it was? [17:55] do-release-upgrade would fail without it (indeed it was perl complaining), but I was doing this directly on the machine, not through ssh [17:55] perl complaining won't cause do-release-upgrade to fail. [17:55] It's just annoyingly verbose warnings. [17:56] If there's actually a problem with upgrading in LANG=C, we'd appreciate bug reports. [17:56] It would fail without it. I spent a whole day finding the LC_ALL fix... [17:56] the install is a bit of a hack because it used an armhf image initially created for AC100, a 12.04 image [17:56] Forgive my skepticism, given that all the buildd chroots auto-upgrade all day long and run in LANG=C. [17:57] It's cool :) [17:57] But yeah, the wireless thing is an issue. I remember that when I had an ac100. [17:57] And I've also completely forgotten which special packages it wanted... [17:58] Oh, right, crda [17:58] how would I get wireless support enabled after using core? I read something about grabbing the wifitools and wpa_supplicant packages and installing them manually after transferring them onto the device, but are those the only packages? [18:00] No, you probably also want wireless-crda, crda, and all the packages they depend on. Though, that depends on the kernel driver, not all of them need those. [18:01] I think I'm way out of my depth here... [18:01] it's a broadcom 4329 wifi+bluetooth chip [18:40] hi [18:41] does the arm version include ALL FOSS programs from the repos? if i got it correct only the non-free part like flash, skype and other stuff you dont want is missing [18:44] and if i got it correct, i can download all source-packages (which will result in the *all.deb) and rebuild them on arm with dpkg-buildpackage, right?