| gsfe | in your opinion is a male with a PhD attractive to women? | 00:27 |
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| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| === bigcalm_ is now known as bigcalm | ||
| mapps | well work was boring;] | 03:07 |
| brobostigon | good morning boys and girls. | 09:58 |
| MartijnVdS | howdy | 10:01 |
| brobostigon | morning MartijnVdS | 10:02 |
| * brobostigon points at his pebble with a true binary watchface on it, :) | 10:03 | |
| MartijnVdS | brobostigon: brain.. hurts.. :) | 10:03 |
| brobostigon | :D | 10:03 |
| MartijnVdS | brobostigon: coworker at my previous job had a binary clock on his desk, by the time I'd read it, it was a few minutes later 8-) | 10:03 |
| brobostigon | i see. oh dear. not enough practice. | 10:04 |
| MartijnVdS | :( | 10:08 |
| brobostigon | i still have to think a while aswell, but i am getting better at reading it. | 10:09 |
| brobostigon | and practising to read it, before the backlight goes off, especially when its dark out. | 10:10 |
| ali12341 | when you say "true" binary watchface | 10:12 |
| ali12341 | i can only assume you mean it shows seconds since the epoch as a 64 bit integer? | 10:12 |
| MartijnVdS | which epoch though | 10:13 |
| MartijnVdS | Unix? Apple? | 10:13 |
| MartijnVdS | Windows? Excel? | 10:13 |
| brobostigon | three colums, one showing hour, one minutes the other seconds, 1/2/4/8/16/32 in each colum, in 24 hour format. | 10:14 |
| brobostigon | ali12341: i think the format they call it, is a bcs-sexagesimal type. | 10:16 |
| === DGJones is now known as DJones | ||
| MartijnVdS | so not bcd? :) | 11:42 |
| brobostigon | no. | 11:49 |
| popey | Morning | 11:50 |
| brobostigon | bcd is too easy. | 11:50 |
| brobostigon | morning popey | 11:50 |
| DJones | Does anybody have any experience with the 'cheaper' supermarket tablets, been asked to have a look for a reasonable tablet for a 73 year old who's reasonably computer literate, doesn't want ipad etc because of cost, debating whether the supermarket/kindle/kobo ones are a good buy for basic web browsing, email etc, its highly unlikely to have any heavy use apps installed | 11:51 |
| MartijnVdS | DJones: they work, but don't expect them to be very useful after 1 (maybe 2) years | 11:59 |
| MartijnVdS | so factor in replacement costs :) | 11:59 |
| * brobostigon hugs his nexus7. | 11:59 | |
| DJones | MartijnVdS: Yeah, thats my thought, I'd rather she paid extra for the N7, even if its the 16Gb model, its not as if she'll be downloading movies/music etc to it, so I don't think she'll use the extra memory the 32Gb model has | 12:01 |
| penguin42 | for some odd reason Amazon are selling a life size model of a standing pig - and it's going to be on discount | 12:11 |
| brobostigon | reminds me of the floating pig, pink floyd used on some of there concerts. | 12:12 |
| penguin42 | http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00B5S356C/ doesn't look like it would float | 12:12 |
| brobostigon | ohwell. | 12:13 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: float, or fly? :) | 12:13 |
| brobostigon | :) | 12:13 |
| penguin42 | MartijnVdS: Ah well yes, perhaps it delivers itself | 12:14 |
| brobostigon | also, the benefit of a nexus is you get good android updates, unlike an unsupported tablet, you may never get android updates ever. | 12:15 |
| MartijnVdS | s/may/certainly/ | 12:15 |
| brobostigon | yes. | 12:15 |
| penguin42 | damn, Tesco had an offer on for Asus Memopads at #69 - that I would have bought - all out of stock | 12:20 |
| popey | DJones: my sister and her SO have got Amazon Kindle tablets for xmas, they aren't techy, but seem very happy with them. | 12:34 |
| popey | there's also the "May Day" button in the kindle to think of | 12:35 |
| popey | Someone amusingly posted about the difference between the Apple iPad advert and the Amazon Kindle adverts.. | 12:35 |
| popey | the iPad advert shows someone pressing a couple of buttons and sending a video to the TV easily. The kindle advert shows someone needing help doing that and having to call may day to do it ☻ | 12:35 |
| DJones | popey: Thanks, by choice I think I'll suggest the cheaper N7 | 12:36 |
| popey | The new 2013 N7? | 12:36 |
| DJones | Yes | 12:43 |
| DJones | It'll make things easier for me giving any support, I can talk her through things using mine as an example & to check exactly what each screen should show | 12:44 |
| DJones | I've got an N7, my wife has, mother-in-law has, so plenty of people to give advice rather than trying to explain something on a Kindle/Hudl etc withg a different UI that I don't know | 12:46 |
| popey | yeah, wise | 12:51 |
| foobarry | does hudl have a different ui? | 13:15 |
| foobarry | just saw people rushing into selfridges in the sale. every single person of the first 250or so rushing through the door was oriental/japanese. why's that? | 13:18 |
| foobarry | only tourists are first in queue for sales? japanese national sport? | 13:19 |
| DJones | I think the hudl has a 'tesco' overlay above the android os | 13:20 |
| foobarry | kindle ui is terrible | 13:20 |
| DJones | popey: Must admit, I'm quite tempted to have a look at the dual booting for Android/Ubuntu Touch thats been announced, need to read up a bit more to see whether its N7 2013 compatible or just original N7 first | 13:21 |
| foobarry | what the heck. did a search on a tame topic on the kobo site and got a page full of smut | 13:58 |
| DJones | foobarry: Just don't search for vampire books, they pretty much all seem to 'erotic novels', you don't get vampires = nasty, scary things anymore | 14:05 |
| foobarry | it wasn't even romance/erotic novels | 14:07 |
| foobarry | it was pornographic content | 14:07 |
| neuro | doo de doo de doo | 14:08 |
| * neuro is trying to build up willpower to tidy up and move old telly out of the way before going to currys to collect new one | 14:10 | |
| neuro | and not to sit and watch the celtic game at 3 :P | 14:10 |
| * foobarry was unwell in the night and moping around at home sans family | 14:11 | |
| foobarry | arggh man utd just scored | 14:12 |
| neuro | ha ha | 14:13 |
| neuro | 13:15 <foobarry> does hudl have a different ui? | 14:21 |
| neuro | no | 14:21 |
| neuro | it's just stock android with some tesco apps preloaded, iirc | 14:22 |
| foobarry | ah, good | 14:22 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| mapps | hk everytime i try wireless cracking on my own network..it never works:) | 14:38 |
| mapps | tried with 3 different wireless cards and somehow gets nowhere! | 14:39 |
| mapps | urgh holidays are a pain..tesco shuts at 7;/ | 14:40 |
| foobarry | cracking WPA2? | 14:47 |
| jpickett | mapps, depends on the wireless cards you're using | 14:50 |
| mapps | yea | 15:48 |
| mapps | foobarry, trying to | 15:48 |
| mapps | but only on my own network just for interest | 15:48 |
| * SuperEngineer is rather impressed with the workings of Synaptic - tried Choqok twitter client - authorises ok [despite what it says in software Centre Centre comments] - but doesn't work in any other way... | 17:12 | |
| SuperEngineer | ...so decided to remove it - found it installed a load of kde stuff! Darn! went to Synaptic, searched for all "kde" under installed & marked all [execpt those which were not relevent... | 17:13 |
| SuperEngineer | ..on hitting "apply it removed some selected entries and then carried on - those were indeed wanted packages [¬ kde} - impressed! | 17:14 |
| SuperEngineer | [all that was needed after was to remove .kde & run spt- autoclean - system back to normal - :) | 17:16 |
| SuperEngineer | *apt | 17:16 |
| penguin42 | SuperEngineer: Easiest way to get all the kde stuff is to install the kubuntu-desktop package | 17:18 |
| SuperEngineer | penguin42: but I wanted the reverse. i.e. not to have it | 17:19 |
| SuperEngineer | [choqok installed it - choqok doesn't work - kde therefore an extra weight to carry | 17:20 |
| penguin42 | ah | 17:21 |
| penguin42 | SuperEngineer: The trick to doing that is rather jenga like - you need to find a library that all the KDE stuff and nothing else depends on and then remove that | 17:21 |
| SuperEngineer | ...disk space back to exactly where it was pre-choqok - a good measure of effective uninstall in this case | 17:21 |
| SuperEngineer | ...synaptic found it for me - and unmarked the entries I added to "completely remove" for me | 17:23 |
| SuperEngineer | sometimes success is accidental ;) | 17:24 |
| penguin42 | nice :-) | 17:27 |
| bigcalm | Evening peeps :) | 17:49 |
| penguin42 | hey bigcalm | 17:50 |
| SuperEngineer | 0/ | 17:50 |
| bigcalm | I should not be let near pringles | 17:51 |
| bigcalm | As an adult, nobody can tell me 'no' or 'enough' | 17:52 |
| penguin42 | they're reasonably safe with me; it's chocolate I have the problem with | 17:54 |
| SuperEngineer | but as adults we *can* shout STOP - naughty,nayghty - now go drink a pint of salt water [...& then we can all laugh thinking of the result] | 17:55 |
| * bigcalm shudders | 17:55 | |
| bigcalm | Any suggestions for a decent blu-ray player with iPlayer/YouTube and the like? | 18:03 |
| === marlinc_ is now known as Marlinc | ||
| directhex | oh gods he's waving goodbye to iggle piggle | 18:52 |
| ali12341 | those "smart" blu-ray players are actually rubbish | 19:40 |
| ali12341 | get one of those chrome dongle things instead | 19:40 |
| directhex | the smart blu-ray players use the same software stack from the smart TVs | 19:58 |
| directhex | market reviews say samsung does it best, but don't expect long-term support. lovefilm got yanked from my samsung a couple of months ago | 19:58 |
| penguin42 | any idea why? | 19:58 |
| directhex | maintenance nightmare | 19:59 |
| directhex | smart TVs are in the same place mobile phones were before ios/android, from a fragmentation perspective. no reliable API on all devices, so lots of per-manufacturer-model-series apps to write | 19:59 |
| penguin42 | aren't some of the TVs android? | 20:00 |
| directhex | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_smart_TV_platforms_and_middleware_software | 20:00 |
| directhex | penguin42, i don't remember any android TVs in the wild | 20:00 |
| directhex | LG will start shipping WebOS TVs next year | 20:00 |
| penguin42 | hang on - you mean what was on HPs tablets? | 20:01 |
| directhex | yes | 20:01 |
| penguin42 | ok, weird choice | 20:01 |
| directhex | replacing their NetCast stack | 20:01 |
| daftykins | i often switch my TV on to an update | 20:04 |
| daftykins | and once Samsung decide this range are ready to be ditched, likely things will slowly stop functioning (like even the iPlayer) | 20:05 |
| penguin42 | wasn't there a case about that a while ago - the whole question of removing a feature you bought it for | 20:06 |
| daftykins | oh it was a regional issue, if i just let myself connect direct over my Guernsey internet connection, i couldn't get Channel 4's 4oD application. However if I proxy'd via England it'd offer it to me fine | 20:09 |
| daftykins | i'm not sure if it's been solved yet, but months later i did get a message saying it was being worked on (after many fob-off replies) | 20:10 |
| daftykins | in fairness i'm not even after using it, it was just that i should be able to and i get a bit moany if us Channel Islanders are treated differently :) | 20:10 |
| foobarry | i used to think the film wild geese was amazing when i was a kid. just watched it, its rubbish. | 20:29 |
| foobarry | where eagles dare is still good though | 20:30 |
| shauno | see, how on earth is this fair; http://www.meteoalarm.eu/maps/EU-131226.gif | 20:31 |
| popey | Evening all. | 20:31 |
| daftykins | happy boxing day mr. popey | 21:01 |
| popey | Hey daftykins, thanks, how was your xmas? | 21:23 |
| daftykins | good thank you :) just a small affair at my parents house with my grandma too | 21:26 |
| daftykins | 92 she is now - shared tales of her evacuation time during WW2 | 21:26 |
| daftykins | popey: and yours? :) | 21:28 |
| popey | Yeah, usual. Ate too much | 21:29 |
| popey | Got Sam a Scalextric which has been pretty much permanently on since setup. | 21:30 |
| foobarry | which one popey ? | 21:31 |
| popey | just the basic non-digital one | 21:31 |
| foobarry | thats good memories getting made right there | 21:31 |
| daftykins | :) | 21:32 |
| popey | yeah, it was hilarious fun | 21:32 |
| popey | the cars coming off and slamming into the cupboard happened quite a bit | 21:32 |
| popey | has a cross-roads so Sam tries to time it to go over the crossroads to slam into my car | 21:32 |
| daftykins | XD | 21:34 |
| daftykins | wee destructive so-and-so! | 21:34 |
| popey | I got some bluetooth headphones and discovered two bugs in ubuntu as a result ☻ | 21:35 |
| daftykins | http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Tomy-AFX-Vertigo-Scalextric-Boxed-Slot-Car-Set-2x-BMW-cars-9m-track-Complete-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/EfUAAOxyYYlRtOQ4/$%28KGrHqRHJE8FGTqt26muBRtOQ38Tg!~~60_35.JPG | 21:35 |
| daftykins | i had that set as a kid | 21:35 |
| shauno | fancy. we had the figure-8 | 21:36 |
| daftykins | :D | 21:37 |
| TwistedLucidity | We couldn't afford the 8. All we had was the 4 and we considered ourselves lucky! | 21:37 |
| popey | http://www.scalextric.com/shop/sets/c1284-scalextric-mclaren-mp4-12c-set/ | 21:37 |
| popey | that's the one we got | 21:37 |
| penguin42 | YorkshireManSketch<scalextric(4)> | 21:38 |
| === marlinc_ is now known as marlinc | ||
| sebsebseb | hi | 22:50 |
| popey | hi sebsebseb | 23:04 |
| popey | happy christmas etc | 23:04 |
| sebsebseb | popey: yep Merry Christmas or Happy Boxing day? | 23:05 |
| popey | ☻ | 23:09 |
| diddledan | merry everyone | 23:09 |
| diddledan | (after a beer or two?) | 23:10 |
| Azelphur | Hey folks, I've got nginx with php5-fpm running on a debian machine, periodically, php5 will fail producing 502 errors. The "solution" is to restart php5-fpm every time it fails. Can anyone help me to fix this properly? | 23:24 |
| Azelphur | the log files seem to be fairly useless, it actually looks like php5-fpm is still running, even though the webserver cant connect to it (resource temporarily unavailable, it says in the logs) | 23:25 |
| ali12341 | it's probably running out of sockets, or files, or memory, or something | 23:26 |
| Azelphur | \o/ | 23:26 |
| Azelphur | [25-Dec-2013 04:41:10] WARNING: [pool www] server reached pm.max_children setting (5), consider raising it | 23:26 |
| Azelphur | I do get that in the php logs from time to time, but its only a warning? | 23:26 |
| ali12341 | yeah well that is probably related | 23:27 |
| ali12341 | it's probably running out of everything | 23:27 |
| Azelphur | as for memory, there's 16GB+32GB swap, it ain't running out of memory. | 23:28 |
| ali12341 | php has limits that are unrelated to how much memory the hardware has | 23:28 |
| ali12341 | basically php is crap and without those limitations it will bring down the machine by using up all resources | 23:29 |
| ali12341 | the best way to fix this is stop using php | 23:29 |
| Azelphur | ali12341: already in the process of doing that, one of my sites is python based :) | 23:29 |
| Azelphur | raised pm.max_children, hopefully that'll solve it. | 23:36 |
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