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hitsujiTMOhelo_n: it should be there. starts with linux ends with quiet splash00:00
hitsujiTMOhelo_n: just add it after quiet splash00:00
adashitsujiTMO: if I apt-get remove rtorrent, will it remove many other programs that I also need?00:01
helo_nright now it says quiet splash $vt_handoff00:01
hitsujiTMOadas: it shouldn't00:01
helo_nafter $vt_handoff?00:01
Lunar_Landerah one more thing, wasn't there a Hash page on the ubuntu download page?00:01
Lunar_Landerwhere I could see the hashes for the ISO file00:02
hitsujiTMOhelo_n: before $vt_hanoff00:02
hitsujiTMOLunar_Lander: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes00:02
kostkonadas, chances are close to zero00:02
helo_nand then F10 to boot?00:02
hitsujiTMOhelo_n: yups00:03
Lunar_Landerthanks hitsujiTMO00:03
adaskostkon: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6636789/ I got scared of the list it showed00:03
helo_nback at the command prompt00:03
kostkonadas, it's normal. you can do sudo apt-get autoremove to get rid of them, if you don't need any of those packages00:04
helo_nbtw, is there an easy way to tag someone's username in xchat?00:04
adaskostkon: ok :p00:04
hitsujiTMOhelo_n: as in when you say their name?00:05
kostkonhelo_n, what do you mean by tag?00:05
helo_nyes, just to make it easier to include your name in my messages00:05
helo_nin some apps I can double click the user name..00:05
kostkon!tab | helo_n00:06
ubottuhelo_n: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.00:06
helo_nhitsujiTMO, nice00:06
Lunar_LanderOK one more thing, the download button gave me the i386 file, I got an AMD CPU, is that allright or shall I go here for the AMD version? http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/00:06
helo_nhitsujiTMO,  now what do we do? I'm at the command prompt.00:07
Lunar_Landerwait00:07
hitsujiTMOhelo_n: ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf00:07
Lunar_LanderI got the i386 file but the dropdown menu was set to 64-bit00:07
Lunar_Landerthat is strange00:07
helo_nhitsujiTMO, no such file or folder.00:08
hitsujiTMOhelo_n: thats a capital X btw00:08
helo_nhitsujiTMO, yeah, still no file or folder.00:08
Lunar_Landerah, noscript messed with the dropdown menu, no problems00:08
Lunar_Landerthanks again hitsujiTMO00:08
helo_nhitsujiTMO, I'm on Ubuntu 13.10 if that changes anything..00:10
hitsujiTMOhelo_n: nano /var/log/Xorg.0.log               scroll to the bottom to see the error that prevented X from loading00:11
jayeshcoolneed help with this. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6636823/ Ubuntu 12.04 LTS00:12
helo_nhitsujiTMO, I'm just not sure what i'm looking for here00:13
helo_nhitsujiTMO, I don't really see any error00:13
ni181143!list00:16
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helo_nhitsujiTMO, what should I do. I don't see any error.00:19
adashitsujiTMO: transmission looks great, how do I make it start on boot?00:22
helo_nhitsujiTMO, I removed "nvidia" from "driver=nvidia" in bumblebee.conf.. after rebooting, I'm back at the desktop, but optirun still produces "Cannot access secondary GPU"00:31
andreiI would need some help on installing apache-dev over an apache server installed via tasksel. Should I just go forwards and issue an sudo apt-get install apache-dev or is there any other procedure?00:35
slickyhi00:36
slickyis it possible to install gnome3 in ubuntu?00:36
YepI just got an asus X502CA and I am trying to boot the UEFI but I cant none of the buttons  I try work00:36
slickyor is there a gnome3 version?00:36
randomcppslicky, gnome-shell 2.8 is on saucy00:37
randomcppsudo apt-get install gnome-shell00:37
slickyrandomcpp, what is gnome-shell?00:37
randomcppgnome 3 interface00:38
slickyoh00:38
slickyrandomcpp, does it work well with ubuntu? or is it not integrated as well with it. because ubuntu used to be THE gnome distro00:38
randomcpp:/ ubuntu uses a heavily patched gnome00:39
slickyheavily patched?00:39
randomcppif you want pure gnome 3 desktop you need to use fedora or archlinux (IMHO)00:39
randomcppslicky, ubuntu integrates patches to make gnome components work better with unity00:40
slickyrandomcpp, im trying to build a nice desktop for my mom, needs to have certain programs that work perfectly, like skype, flash, teamviewer,00:40
slickyi dont know if these things all work fine in fedora00:40
slickyi remember rpms being the biggest PITA00:41
randomcppisn't unity ok? Unity has a more straightforward interface00:42
randomcppgnome shell is bit sometimes00:42
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Guest97923what button do i press to boot the bios00:44
slickymeh, unity is alright00:44
thom_rGuest87823: What brand of computer do you have?00:44
slickyi wish i could put window buttons on the other side00:44
slickythat bugs me to no end00:44
randomcppslicky, install unity-tweaks00:45
thom_rGuest97932: What brand of computer do you have?00:45
randomcppor something like that00:45
randomcppit will solve all your problems00:45
Guest97923An asus00:45
randomcppsudo apt-get install unity-tweak-tool00:45
randomcppslicky, ^^^^00:45
thom_rshould be F2 then00:46
Guest97923thank you00:46
slickywhere do you get unity tweak tool?00:46
thom_rslicky: software center00:46
randomcppubuntu software center, command line, synaptic..00:46
thom_ror a terminal install00:46
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randomcppgoodnight :)00:47
thom_rGuest97923: Are you doing an install?00:47
helo_nIs anyone available that can help with installing Bumblebee? I'm still getting [ERROR] Cannot access the secondary GPU whenever I run Optirun00:47
Guest97923thom_r, yeah i am getting rid of win8 and installing Ubuntu but the bios wont show up00:48
thom_rok, on a Win8 machine you can't just shut down the OS. It actually stays in like a hibernate mode. You will need to do a hard power off. Then press F2 as soon as you turn it back on00:49
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DWSRPretty sure you're wrong, but that's ok.00:50
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* DWSR uses Windows 8 on 4 machines, and has no problems actually shutting down the box.00:50
BPonyDWSR: is it actually shut off?00:50
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DWSRYes.00:50
Guest97923it doesnt have a battery on it thom_r00:51
DWSRThe things you're referring to, the fast boot nonsense, is able to be disabled.00:51
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BPonyGuest97923: that doesn't matter00:51
DWSRIn fact, if you've built your own rig, it doesn't work unless you specifically set it up.00:51
BPonyit stores it in RAM00:51
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thom_rGuest97923: did you get it into the bios?00:51
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Guest97923not yet thom_r and okay BPony00:52
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slickywhat version should i get extended support or 13.1000:53
BPonyslicky: 12.0400:53
BPonyno tracking shit00:53
thom_rslicky: 12.0400:53
IdleOne!language00:53
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.00:53
slickydoes 12.04 have unity-tweaks?00:53
BPonyno privacy invading tracking advertisements00:53
BPonybetter now?00:54
thom_rslicky: you can install it00:54
slickywait a minute? ubuntu now has advertisement tracking?00:54
BPonyhttps://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/10/privacy-ubuntu-1210-amazon-ads-and-data-leaks00:54
BPonyslicky: read the eff post00:54
BPonymy next distro is fedora00:54
Guest97923thom_r, F2 isn't working00:54
BPonybecause of what canonical tried to pull00:54
DWSRI switched back to Windows.00:54
DWSRBecause trololol FOSS.00:55
thom_rGuest97923: try esc or F900:55
Guest97923thom_r: ok00:55
slickyholy crap are they doing this from now on?00:55
slickyis this the future?00:55
thom_rslicky: hopefully they get rid of it, nobody is happy about it00:56
thom_rslicky: you can turn it off though00:57
Guest97923neither one of them are working00:57
slickythats insane00:57
slickywhy would they have ever thought that was a good idea00:57
DWSRslicky: Just remember, if you're not paying for the product, you ARE the product.00:57
DWSRslicky: Because money makes the world go round.00:58
BPonylinux was taken over by greedy for profit companies00:58
BPonyremember when linux was open source, and people worked on it out of their spare time?00:58
DWSRYes. It's still like that on other distributions.00:58
BPonynow the majority of commits to the linux kernell are employees00:58
DWSRJust that everyone flocks to Ubuntu now, so *shrug*00:58
slickythe companies have made linux not suck00:58
DWSRThat's why I choose to pay for my software.00:58
DWSRanyway, peace.00:58
BPonyagreed00:59
slickyi have paid for linux in the past and would do so again00:59
BPonyubuntu is going down the drain00:59
BPonyi remember when I donated to canonical00:59
slickyi used to buy SuSE back in the day00:59
BPonysuch as mistake00:59
slickyand packaged versions of freebsd00:59
SonikkuAmerica!ot | BPony, slicky01:00
ubottuBPony, slicky: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!01:00
jhutchinsYet here you are, complaining in #ubuntu01:00
SonikkuAmericaThe SUPPORT channel.01:00
slickyim just trying to set up a easy to maintain desktop for my technology illiterate mother without having to worry abotu viruses and spyware01:00
Priceyslicky: https://fixubuntu.com/01:02
slickyis canonical insane01:04
SonikkuAmericaslicky: While Ubuntu proper uses scopes to send information to third-parties on an opt-out basis, the !flavors don't have that capability.01:04
SonikkuAmerica!flavors01:04
ubottu!Ubuntu-GNOME, !Kubuntu, !Xubuntu and !Lubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with GNOME, KDE, Xfce, and LXDE (respectively) installed as default, instead of Unity. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, and !Mythbuntu.01:04
SonikkuAmericaI use Ubuntu GNOME myself; it has most of Unity's functionality without the ad suggestions.01:05
k1lhey guys, lets stick to technical ubuntu support in here. for other topics we got #ubuntu-offtopic01:06
SonikkuAmerica(Last comment: Well, I semi-take that back, Edubuntu also has the scopes IIRC)01:06
slickySonikkuAmerica, talking about how to disable the ads is technical discussion01:07
SonikkuAmericaYeah, good idea guys. Actually, #ubuntu-discuss could be another place01:07
k1lSonikkuAmerica: the scopes data gets anonymized01:08
thom_rk1l: how do you know that01:08
SonikkuAmericak1l: I thought we agreed to keep the discussion off the support channel, but thanks for the correction. :)01:08
k1lslicky: to turn the global search off is a real no-brainer. just take a look at the privace settings in the system settings01:08
k1lthom_r: i stick to facts and not rumors. thats it01:09
thom_rk1l: I'm looking for a source. I had not heard one way or another what they do.01:10
BPonybut canonical knows what files you have01:11
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pvl1is there a graphical editor to set x resource files01:15
BPonyk1l: what is that screenshot?01:15
BPonylooks like a cool theme I want it01:15
LvMisesI need some help!  I'm trying to install Eve Online via Wine in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.  I'm following: http://www.olympicsoftworks.org/index.php/20-uncategorised/geeky-things/20-eve-online-in-ubuntu-12-04?showall=&start=5  these directions.  I got to the last step and I'01:19
LvMisesI'm not sure what's happening.01:19
chaotixhello...  i am trying to create a menu entry for a game that is a project 64 rom...  i can not get it to properly open, which means i must be wording the command in the ".desktop" file wqrong...  i was under the assumption that it would be:01:20
chaotixwine "path to project 64" path to rom01:21
chaotixcan someone help me please?01:21
daftykinstry #winehq01:21
KrenairI completely broke my system. How do you uninstall the AMD Catalyst drivers? from a root shell recovery prompt, without any package or the original install script...01:21
LvMisesThanks01:21
daftykinsKrenair: it would've probably installed the uninstaller01:22
chaotixoops01:22
chaotixactually i got it now01:22
chaotixit is:  wine "path to project 64" 'path to rom'01:22
chaotixi tried every other combination but that one does work01:22
chaotixmerry christmas, and happy hollidays01:23
chaotixholidays01:23
pvl1Krenair: did you download them from ati's website01:24
Krenairdaftykins, hm, an askubuntu answer does mention that, will try in a moment...01:24
Krenairpvl1, yes01:24
SuperHeroINTJHello my friends. I`ve just got a fresh new notebook as christimas gift. It has a very slow Celeron processor. I wonder if installing Ubuntu on it might be a good idea.01:25
pvl1Krenair: sudo sh /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh01:26
pvl1Krenair: wait not htat one01:26
Krenairadmittedly, there was an option to have it make packages and install those. I should have gone with that01:26
Krenairpvl1, not that one? okay...01:26
ZadirI have a celeron an intel NUC eith a celeron and it is pretty usable01:27
pvl1Krenair: you should be able to apt-get purge the packages... however there might also be an uninstall script in the /usr/share/ati dir01:31
Krenairpvl1, okay so I ran the script and I can now boot the system and log in...01:34
Krenairso now I'm back to how it was before I installed that driver - unity is seemingly missing01:36
Krenairmy programs begin to start up, but no sidebar, no titles on windows, etc.01:37
Krenairrandom popup from nowhere: "Your display manager log files may help developers diagnose the bug, but may contain sensitive information such as your hostname. Do you want to include these logs in your bug report?"01:39
Krenairuh, well, maybe I would if it showed exactly what I was submitting...01:39
Krenairmight have come up after I closed a crash report dialog actually...01:40
SuperHeroINTJzadir, can you play Dota 2 on it?01:40
pvl1Krenair you probably need to reconfigure xorg. What version of ubuntu r u on01:48
Krenair13.0401:49
ubuntu-studioHello01:59
wiredmessiahim having an issue running the web setup of media wiki on ubuntu 13.10... i get "Your session data was lost! Check your php.ini and make sure session.save_path is set to an appropriate directory."02:00
wiredmessiahI've tried everything and google is not helping me02:00
wiredmessiahanyone have this issue before?02:00
Krenairwiredmessiah, google shows a few people have.02:01
wiredmessiahyah02:01
Krenairwiredmessiah, what version of mediawiki is this?02:01
wiredmessiah1.22.002:01
wiredmessiahi see session files being created in the session path02:02
ROPAropa02:02
Krenairwiredmessiah, what PHP version?02:03
wiredmessiah5.5.302:03
wiredmessiahPHP 5.5.3-1ubuntu2.1 to be exact02:04
Krenairpvl1, hm, now I installed fglrx but still it seems unity is missing02:08
Krenairwindows have titles now, but the unity sidebar is missing...02:08
wiredmessiahKrenair did you find anything or were you just curious?02:12
Krenairwiredmessiah, some old 2006/2007 mailing list references to particular PHP versions not working02:13
Krenairyour one should be fine, though I swear I've seen that error before02:13
Krenairnot using memcache are you wiredmessiah?02:14
wiredmessiahhmm lemme see02:14
wiredmessiahno def not02:15
pvl1Krenair: says who02:15
Krenairpvl1, pardon?02:16
wiredmessiahshould i try one of the newer releases of mediawiki?02:16
Krenairyou have the latest, it should be OK02:17
wiredmessiahargh hehe02:17
pvl1Krenair: what makes you think unity is missing02:17
goawhello, I just upgraded my system to 12.10 & the upgrade caused a malfunction in the usage of the language tools. Furthermore I'm now not able to login to my primary user login02:17
goaw:)02:18
Krenairpvl1, a distinct lack of the unity sidebar thing02:18
pvl1Krenair: alt F2 should bring up the run widget, and run unity there02:20
ItsMeLennySaberX01, back up and running, everything is almost back to normal02:23
ItsMeLennyjust a few more programs to install02:23
ItsMeLennySaberX01, but one thing, my network is "unmanaged"02:24
Krenairpvl1, this is what I mean by unity being missing, btw: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10971457/Screenshot%20from%202013-12-26%2002%3A20%3A05.png02:24
Krenairpvl1, alt+f2 does nothing and the 'unity' command... well the result of that is in the screenshot02:24
h0rrorvacuiI have a upstart script that I messed up the expect stanza and I can't get it to stop and hope to avoid restarting the server. Is there a way?02:24
pvl1Krenair: Krenair do you have sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati02:27
goawbe right back, I will try login again02:27
Krenairpvl1, yes02:27
Krenairpvl1, shall I switch to using that under additional drivers?02:28
pvl1Krenair: im not so sure thats where the change occurs. u might need to reconfigure xorg. also confirm that the module is loaded in lsmod02:29
Krenairpvl1, check that fglrx is loaded in lsmod? yep it's there02:30
Krenairfglrxinfo shows some info as well02:31
Krenairhow do I reconfigure xorg?02:31
pvl1sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-video-ati02:33
Quark__you can always try: >sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg02:33
pvl1check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log for stuff02:33
pvl1actually you can do02:34
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pvl1cat /var/log/Xorg.0.lorg | grep EE02:34
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goawdoes anybody have the reference to altering the password for an admin account posteri upgrading to 12.10?02:34
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kostkon!pwreset | goaw02:35
ubottugoaw: Forgot your password? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword02:35
goawgracias ubottu!!02:36
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Krenairpvl1, like this error? (EE) Failed t oload module "fglrxx" (module does not exist, 0)02:40
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neurotuswtf02:51
OerHekswhy so many clones funkyHa funkyhat 1-2302:54
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j4n6How can i remap caps to ctrl but for all keyboard layouts at once? 13.10 so no option for it in the keyboard settings anymore02:55
ItsMeLennywhere do settings like; export WINEARCH=win32, go?02:56
bazhangItsMeLenny, try #winehq02:57
wiredmessiahi still can't get mediawiki running... ive tried everything i can think of :(02:59
ItsMeLennybazhang, yeah i just thought it was a system thing, but i will03:00
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j4n6ItsMeLenny : export makes a variable for your shell. thats brief, u can google it if u want to know more03:03
ItsMeLennyj4n6, ohhhhhhhhhhhh, that makes a hell of a lot more sense03:03
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wiredmessiahson of a bitch i figured out the mediawiki problem03:21
bazhangno cursing here please wiredmessiah03:21
wiredmessiahthe b word is a curse?03:21
bazhangyes03:21
wiredmessiahok sorry ive always gone by the policy of if they can say it on network television its not really a curse :)03:22
SchrodingersScatwiredmessiah: this is the internet, they don't let just anyone on this thing.03:22
hitsujiTMOunless you're actually talking about dogs it is03:22
wiredmessiahanyways if anyone is curious, one of the other server admins had set the session.cookie_domain value to one of the other virtual hosts03:23
wiredmessiahif i remove that directive from the php.ini the problem goes away03:23
luminoushello! when you install openssh-server, why oh why is fuse a requirement? https://dpaste.de/2D7p03:27
jayari added a standard user account, selected "auto-login" and now i can't access my admin account03:27
hitsujiTMOwiredmessiah: will that not break other virtualhosts?03:27
luc__hi all03:33
luc__is true ubuntu is under NSA rules???03:33
xmetaloh good grief03:33
hitsujiTMO!ot | luc__ and no canonical are not an americancompany03:34
ubottuluc__ and no canonical are not an americancompany: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!03:34
luc__microsoft and apple are03:34
luc__ok ok ok03:34
jayari created a standard account with auto login, and now can't login as my main admin account...03:35
Beldarjayar, If the login is your goal, http://askubuntu.com/questions/180628/how-can-i-logout-from-the-gui-using-cli03:35
hitsujiTMOjayar: reboot to recover mode and remove the autologin03:35
jayari removed the other account with deluser03:36
hitsujiTMOBeldar: that would just log him back in again tho03:36
BeldarhitsujiTMO, There are a number of commands03:36
jayarit just boots to a blank screen, so i go alt+f1, and login to my admin, then i go startx, and the gui loads, but i cant change anything as admin03:37
hitsujiTMOjayar: why can't you change anything as admin?03:38
jayarawesome question...03:38
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hitsujiTMOjayar: whats the output og03:38
jayarwhen i goto system settings / users, i can't "unlock" it, and its not my regular screen03:38
hitsujiTMOjayar: whats the output of: groups03:38
wiredmessiahhitsujiTMO: removing the directive causes the cookie to be created by the domain that created it so the others "should" be fine :)03:39
jayarjayar adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare03:39
hitsujiTMOwiredmessiah: unless you want multiple subdomains to share the same sessions03:40
jayari'm not authorized to view any drives either...03:40
jayarsomehow i'm logged into a dif/standard account?03:42
hitsujiTMOjayar: that seems to be ok. from the terminal go: sudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf        remove the autologin entry from there03:43
jayark03:43
jayarahhhh thats where that is :)03:44
jayarbrb03:44
luc__how can i turn to a ubuntu developer ? ?03:47
SchrodingersScat!dev | luc__03:48
ubottuluc__: Interested in becoming an Ubuntu Developer? Get started here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment03:48
ItsMeLennySchrodingersScat, does that require putting 2 girls with 1 cup in a room?03:51
SchrodingersScatItsMeLenny: be-bop skiddity do03:52
ItsMeLennyohh, that kind of scat03:52
blognewbpoo03:53
zhongfudoes anyone have any idea why my Apple earpiece w/ mic's input loop back into output03:57
jayaryea that didnt work03:57
jayarit just stops at boot and i have to alt+f1 to get to a terminal to do anything03:58
jayarthen when i startx it loads some standard account03:58
jayaraskin me for password to unlock my keyring, blah blah blah...04:01
nearsthello people :)04:03
jayarbah i'm totally screwed :(04:07
kkkkkhi all, i am having a problem with mobile broadband, i want to use my mobile to connect to internet in ubuntu, i use a data cable for that,  ubuntu detects it , but when i try to connect it, it connects first, then it disconnects in few seconds , using 2-3 Kb data, and connection name that used to appear in the list, disappears, i have to restart both phone and laptop to  appear it again, i am using ubuntu 12.04 64 bit,(3.8) this issue is not there in ubuntu 12.004:07
ali33Hi everybody04:07
ali33I using Xubuntu04:07
kkkkki have bot 32 bit and 64 bit version, 64 bit have lattest kernel but it is not working up to the mark, 32 bit is working quite good though, as i have 64 bit capable hardware, that's why i installed 64 bit version as well,04:09
nearstwhat is 64bit capable hardware ? :)04:10
kkkkkwhat could be the problem, when same mobile is working well in windows and 32 bit, it could be a problem with kernel i think, there is new version available of kernel, but i want to downgrade it to my 32 bit version, is it possible to do that, 12.04.3 is not upto the mark04:11
zipacenearst: any modern desktop CPU will likely be 64bit compatible04:11
zipacenearst: i think that you actually meant something entirely different, no?04:12
nearstzipace, aha. nothing. merry xmas to all :)04:12
zipacenearst: you too :-p04:13
kkkkkzipace: ^^04:13
zipacekkkkk: is it a separate machine? if so, try to connect, then paste the output of 'dmesg | tail -n50' AFTER it disconnected to paste.ubuntu.com, or some other pastebin04:14
nearstkkkkk, u should look at dmesg for the problem.04:14
kkkkkno, this is same machine, with different version installed04:14
zipacekkkkk: well, if it's possible to do that it'd help tremendously, seeing as how network manager usually prints stuff to syslog04:15
kkkkki need to install  some packages to 64 bit like wine, virtualbox, codecs etc04:15
kkkkki want read the log file04:16
nearstkkkkk, try look for this solution. http://hustoknow.blogspot.com/2012/12/upgrading-networkmanager-and.html04:16
kkkkki can read the log file and this can be done, i can paste whole output of my login session, i know at what time i loginned there, and upto shutdown, all messages will be there in log file04:17
kkkkkshould i paster kernel.log file04:17
gxi'm trying to figure out how to use upstart to run a php script every 30 seconds that runs an operation on my database. can't find any good examples... anyone around that can point me in the right direction?04:18
zipacekkkkk: dmesg will do04:18
zipacegx: are you sure you don't want cronjobs instead?04:19
zipacegx: and there are plenty examples for cronjobs lying on the internet04:19
gxzipace, yes. i need it to run actually quicker than 30 seconds, and i only want one thread running at a time04:19
gxjust using 30s as an example04:19
kkkkkzipace, but now i am connected with 32 bit version and 64 bit version is creating problems to me04:19
nearstgx, cronjob doin well for that purpose04:19
kkkkkzipace: copied dmesg output from 64 bit is http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6637539/04:20
gxi could create a script that runs a process every 20 seconds, yes... and then run it on a cron every minute, but that doesnt seem very elegant imho04:20
zipacegx: that seems like a silly idea. why do you need it to run "faster" than cronjob (whatever you actually mean by that), and why only one thread? at least the latter is usually handled by the application, not by upstart or cron04:20
gxi'm updating some data from an API and i need it to run every 10 seconds or so. every once and awhile, it'll take longer than 10s to grab the data, and i don't want another process to start until the last one is finished04:21
zipacekkkkk: let's clarify something here: you're running 64bit ubuntu, but with 32bit drivers, or something like that?04:21
gxas i understand it, that's the definition of a daemon04:21
zipacegx: write your PHP scripts to handle errors better.... ;-)04:22
gxgreat advice, thanks04:22
zipacegx: seriously though, cron will do just fine, you really need to handle errors better if you're stuck with that kind of problem04:23
kkkkkzipace: no i have both 32 bit and 64 bit ubuntu installed on same machine, right now i am on 32 bit machine, mobile broadband is working here, while not working in 64 bit version and  this is the only source of internet to me04:23
Brisperehello04:23
kkkkkso, to connect to community, i have to boot back to 32 bit version while problem is with 64 bit ubuntu 12.04.304:24
BrispereI was just wondering if I install ubuntu and replace windows on my laptop, will the internal trackpad and camera still work?04:24
nearstBrispere, sure.04:24
kkkkkBrispere: try with live cd, if everything works okay, then you can install04:24
zipacekkkkk: is your wlan adapter/receiver external or internal? is it USB, by any chance?04:24
gxzipace, i have to run about 10 scripts concurrently, every few seconds... i could either write a bunch of controller scripts that last 59s and trigger the sub-scripts every few seconds and then put it into cron, or i could create a daemon for each and get special stuff like logging, status updates, etc04:25
zipaceBrispere: try LiveCD first in cases like that04:25
kkkkkzipace: i am using data cable to mobile , using phone as a modem04:25
zipace!livecd | Brispere04:25
ubottuBrispere: The Ubuntu Desktop CD is a "LiveCD" which can be run without altering existing files on your harddrive. Especially useful for testing your hardware's compatibility, it also includes an install option.04:25
Brisperealright04:26
nearstkkkkk, why not u make a wifi hotspot with your samsung rather connect using usb cable :)04:26
zipacekkkkk: whoa jesus, i didn't think people actually did that04:26
kkkkknearst: this phone doesn't have a wifi04:26
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kkkkkalso, ubuntu is very bad when it comes to wireless, my broadcom 4313 wireless doesn't work like charm with ubuntu04:27
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BrispereAlso, would you guys recommend installing the plasma 2 desktop yet or stick with plasma one04:27
zipacekkkkk: that's not ubuntu's fault, though04:27
nearstkkkkk, so u using ppp ?04:27
kkkkkless signal detection, less internet speed, disabled ipv6 n all those things, i could do04:27
kkkkkbut no luck04:27
zipaceBrispere: plasma2 is alpha, no? you might want to try it out in a virtual, or separate installation04:28
Brisperealright04:28
nearstkkkkk, http://www.techytalk.info/manage-gsm-mobile-broadband-connections-without-network-manager-ubuntu-mint-debian/04:28
zipacekkkkk: none of those issues are caused by ubuntu04:28
zipacekkkkk: speaking from experience here04:28
kkkkknearst: now, i am using same mobile with data cable plugged in USB port and it is working  well on 32 bit, so problem is with 64 bit , neither with mobile, nor with data cable04:28
zipacei used to have one of those propietary dongles that were designed for windows, and even though the vendor removed linux support years ago, I still got it to work (yay me, i guess)04:29
kkkkklet me see, zipace, but should i upgrade network manager and modem-manager, earlier link given by one of you04:30
nearstits a package which u need to upgrade . :)04:30
zipacekkkkk: i gave you no links, nearst did, besides, upgrading isn't necessarily going to solve the issue04:30
nearstunless ure familiar with AT command04:30
zipacekkkkk: it might be a driver problem, or a flaky USB cable, or simply a shitty connection04:31
kkkkkzipace: NO, same mobile, same cable, same provider work well in Windows and ubuntu 32 bit, so this argument is invalid04:31
zipacekkkkk: then... it might still be a driver problem04:32
kkkkkyes, buggy drivers, i have used ubuntu 11.10 64 bit earlier, no problem at all, but new version actually made thing worse04:33
kkkkkeven LTS did thing like that04:33
energizerive got some questions about Linksys Range Extender -- not sure where to ask. any ideas?04:34
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zipacekkkkk: well, i'm stumped. you migh still have some luck asking on http://askubuntu.com/04:34
zipace!ask | energizer04:34
ubottuenergizer: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience04:34
kkkkkwe can expect things like that in beta versions or versions that are not LTS, also 12.04.3 should rectify those problems, which are occuring with many users, these are necessary things, most of users in India connect to internet using mobile broadband, either dongle or data cable,04:35
nearstbe right back04:35
energizerzipace: Well, it's sorta a catch 22, isn't it. If I'd just asked, someone else would've said "Sir, this isn't a networking channel." haha04:35
zipacekkkkk: don't lose your cool, like i said, it could still just be a driver problem04:36
kkkkkzipace: let me ask at askubuntu.com04:36
zipaceenergizer: hence why you should just ask ;-) if someone knows they'll let you know04:36
energizerAnyway I'm trying to assign a static IP to my computer, but it won't take. (Supposed to have 192.168.1.200, but it's got 192.168.1.107 instead for no obvious reason.)04:37
kkkkkzipace: things should work out of the box, most of people like stability over polished effects04:37
energizerI have a range extender that im connected to, and i think that might be causing some complications04:37
kkkkkthings that were already working, should work in newer version, instead of regressions04:38
kkkkkbackward compatibility :D04:38
zipaceenergizer: quick google yielded this: http://www.howtoforge.com/linux-basics-set-a-static-ip-on-ubuntu - can't say if it works for you, though04:38
energizerthanks for the tip zipace04:38
zipacekkkkk: like i said, you might want to try asking on http://askubuntu.com/, but make sure to include as much potentially useful information as possible04:40
zipaceenergizer: no problem, and feel free to ask away if it doesn't work04:41
RunemoroHello, could anyone help me fix a problem I'm having on my ubuntu server?04:41
zipace!ask | Runemoro04:41
ubottuRunemoro: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience04:41
Firefishewhat will this LVM proposal yield me?04:42
Runemorozipace: Whenever I download a file, the download starts at a slow speed, and then increases constantly up to 100mbps04:42
Firefishewww.pastebin.ca/251780904:42
energizerzipace: I'm very new to all this. It was my understanding that the way to set a static ip is by assigning an ip to a mac *on the router interface*. this page seems to suggest that settings in ubuntu are the way to go. I just want to make sure that it's got the same goal in mind04:43
zipacezipace: just ask in the channel - i'm just a lowly unpaid user around here ;-)04:43
energizerlol zipace04:44
zipaceenergizer: that may depend on how your router is configured, if you use the wrong configuration on your router, the router might become inaccessible, AND you need to tell Linux that it shouldn't use DHCP for network discovery, in other words, static IPs need to work both ways, and of course, need to be set up on both ends04:45
blaczyckowskiHi guys, I need some help regarding setting up aircrack on bcm 43xx card. I'm currently running precise, and the error i keep getting is " ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device". ANy help?04:46
energizerzipace: oh, that's a key piece i was missing. i thought i could do it only on the router. I've got to do it both on the router *and* on the computer?04:46
zipaceblaczyckowski: is it your own card, though? >:-)04:47
zipaceenergizer: ayup04:47
blaczyckowskiYes. ;)04:47
blaczyckowskizipace: I've heard that bcm cards have been causing much shit for aircracking.04:48
Xen0nhey04:50
blaczyckowskiXen0n: Merry Christmas!04:50
energizerXen0n: hey04:50
rogue5Hey04:50
zipaceblaczyckowski: that i have no idea about, but "no such device" usually implies that the(?) device couldn't be discovered. for example, many programs that operate directly on devices have default values for eth0, the default device for cable. some programs might allow you to override those defaults to select a different device, such as wlan004:51
zipaceblaczyckowski: that's my best guess here, for that matter04:51
blaczyckowskizipace: So, the problem is not with BCM?04:52
blaczyckowskizipace: Is installing BackTrack going to do any good with my card?04:52
zipaceblaczyckowski: like i said, i have no idea, networking isn't my strongest suit :-(04:53
gryLinux kernels usually have the same drivers regardless of distro. Ubuntu packages proprietary drivers in addition to that.04:54
blaczyckowskizipace: Cheers, mate. Thanks for your help.04:54
zipaceblaczyckowski: you're welcome04:54
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blaczyckowskiGuess, i have to check the backtrack wiki now. Time to RTFM!04:55
shreezbotHave any of you guys been able to connect to crashplan on your homeserver from another machine?04:56
shreezbotI've followed the instructions on the code42 site and the client on my Windows box still says it can't connect to crashplan on my ubuntu box...04:57
shreezbotLooking for any tips on troubleshooting the connection failure...04:57
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energizerif i just used dhcp, should't the the router/extender just assign me the specified ip from the router interface? (zipace)04:57
blaczyckowskiGood bye guys, merry christmas!05:00
thom_rsee ya05:00
rogue5Later05:00
m0desthey is there a good reason why Ubuntu doesn't automatically delete old kernels?  I am perpetually running out of space on /boot05:06
SuperLagm0dest: why have /boot on a separate partition?05:09
SuperLagm0dest: That, and a situation might happen where you're VERY glad you have one of those old kernels around05:09
m0destSuperLag: encrypted root05:10
SuperLagm0dest: I'm no expert... but write a script to delete all but the latest 2-3 kernels and run update-grub?05:11
SuperLagm0dest: put that script in a cron job to run every so often05:11
m0destto answer my own question, it looks like i can just run `apt-get autoremove` periodically05:12
m0destvia cron or whatever05:12
m0desti use unattended-upgrades, it's a shame that it doesn't do that by default05:13
Abhijithi. i get duplicate sources list error when i do apt-get update. but when i open the source.lst in text editor i can not find any duplicate entry? help05:29
Abhijit12.0405:29
cem_hi all05:33
cem_is there anybody playing mud?05:33
cem_i never ever played mud but i wanna give a try wit gnome mud05:34
chad_hello05:34
chad_I was wondering if anyone has advice on getting A+ certifiaction?05:35
chad_I have never worked in IT but have learned alot and would like to do free tests and study for it05:35
GereHello guys I need your help,I am using ubuntu 12.04 "Couln't update ICEauthoriy/home/username /ICEauthority is display when I try to login how can solve this problem?05:37
codyduncanHey friends.  Fresh install, not my first.  I need some help dealing with some tricky unmet dependencies for grive-tools.05:37
chad_I was wondering if anyone has advice on getting A+ certifiaction?05:38
chad_<chad_> I have never worked in IT but have learned alot and would like to do free tests and study for it05:38
chad_its pretty dead in here for help05:38
chad_ive been in 10 mins have not seen anyone05:38
dougbbchad, maybe that's because a+ certification isn't on-topic? :)05:38
chad_yeah i get that05:39
chad_its still relevant to computers lol05:39
codyduncanSlow or not, irc hasn't failed me yet.05:39
codyduncanThough it has been a while since I have been around here.05:40
chad_yeah i hear that05:40
chad_i logged in for first time in 8 years the other day05:40
chad_used to use Mirc back when i had ICQ :S05:40
chad_someone helped me edit my fstab here the other day05:41
chad_could not figure that out05:41
chad_gui apply05:43
chad_GUI SHOW05:43
codyduncanIt just occurred to me, though, this is Christmas.  I suspect people have other stuff going on.05:43
chad_yeah thats probably true05:43
* chad_ hits head DUH!05:44
kristenhi05:50
SuperLagand... he's gone05:51
Abhijithi. i get duplicate sources list error when i do apt-get update. but when i open the source.lst in text editor i can not find any duplicate entry? help05:54
Abhijitalso getting this error while installing updates http://paste.ubuntu.com/6637885/05:55
ramborockshello?05:59
kristenramborocks hi05:59
ramborockshi06:00
ramborocksjust checking to see if this works been going to random channals and servers all empty06:00
nearzthello06:01
ramborocksi did something and now it wont show who here on the right side any quick fix?06:01
dougbbramborocks: this isn't a chat channel, you should go to the support channel for your IRC client06:02
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ramborockswhat is this channel for then?06:03
ramborocksive got ubuntu questions too . I cant get my external HD to give correct permissions to allow it to be shared with my plex media server06:04
dougbbAbhijit: try this:  sudo apt-get clean06:05
dougbbsudo mv /var/lib/apt/lists /var/lib/apt/lists.old06:05
dougbbsudo mkdir -p /var/lib/apt/lists/partial06:05
dougbbsudo apt-get clean06:05
dougbbsudo apt-get update06:05
FloodBot1dougbb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.06:05
ramborocksok06:08
Abhijitdougbb, what does the partial directory do?06:08
dougbbIt just recreates the path for the list files06:08
dougbbIIRC partial is where they get downloaded06:09
Abhijitokey.06:09
SmashStackanybody know how to attach a picture to an MP3 file's APIC frame using the id3v2 tool?06:09
SmashStackI can't figure out what parameters I need to give it for it to attach correctly06:10
ramborockssorry smash06:11
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ramborockswhen would anyone need todo that?06:11
oakySmashStack: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=135321306:11
SmashStacka script converting to MP3 from FLAC. I don't want to bother manually attaching a cover image06:12
SmashStackif it's read only why can I use it to remove an image?06:13
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SmashStackI'll look through the code a bit, I guess. thanks, oaky06:15
ramborocksgoodluck06:16
SmashStackthanks ramborocks06:16
ramborocksanyone got good recommendations to nvidia drivers on ubuntu06:22
ramborocksim trying to get my games to run a little better06:22
dougbbwhat are you using now?06:22
SmashStackramborocks: you mean free vs. proprietary?06:23
ramborocksi have a geforce gtx 560/pcie sse206:26
duoihi06:26
ramborockshad to look it up06:26
dougbbramborocks: what *drivers* are you using now?06:26
duoiif i install ubuntu on ARM architecture, would i run into issues when trying to install software?06:26
ramborocksis there a quick way to check that?06:27
ramborockslike a command?06:27
dougbbduoi: the package repos are divided up by architecture, so if you see something available for your arch, you shouldn't have a problem06:28
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dougbbramborocks: grep -i nv /var/log/Xorg.006:29
dougbbIf you see Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation" you're already using the nvidia driver06:29
dougbbIf you see references to nouveau, you're using that one06:30
ramborockshow can i check doug?06:31
dougbbramborocks: I just pasted the command06:32
duoidougbb, is there a large offering for ARM devices? do i have reason to believe mainstream web browsers, wine, teamviewer etc would work?06:32
dougbbduoi: you'd have to browse the repos to answer that question, I have no idea06:33
dougbb... or you could just try installing it and see what happens :)06:33
dougbbif you're going to install something anyway, installing ubuntu to try it out isn't that much extra effort06:34
llutzduoi: there is #ubuntu-arm , you may get more arm-related info there06:35
duoidougbb, im doing the research before i go out and purchase the device :p06:37
dougbbah, that's a different story06:37
dougbbthe #ubuntu-arm channel could help you more then06:37
ramborocksok doug06:38
ramborockslooks like i got official nvida drivers06:38
dougbbramborocks: then you're done06:38
ramborocksare those  the ones you would recommend for using on wine to play games that run slower / choppy06:39
dougbbthey're the best you're going to get06:40
dougbbgeforce cards are Ok, but they're not big performers to start with ... but with a windows game in wine you're already a couple layers deep ... cpu and ram are going to be big factors as well06:41
DAL|DesktopIs there anything I should do in 12.04.3 before moving my HDD to a new system?06:42
SaberX01Nothing is going to perform well using Wine .. it's like cutting your system resources in half going through Wine.06:43
dougbbDAL|Desktop: are you going to be using it as a system drive, or is it just data?06:43
ramborocksoh man thats not good news: (06:43
SaberX01DAL|Desktop, have a full backup of /home is always a good plan.06:44
DAL|Desktopdougbb, system drive06:44
llutzDAL|Desktop: you might find your old eth0 as eth1 in the new system, if MAC changed. be prepared06:44
dougbbDAL|Desktop: that's probably not a good idea .... you're better off to back up your data and reinstall06:44
llutzs/old//06:44
dougbbthere is a lot of configuration that happens at install time depending on the hardware, it's not easy to ferret it all out06:45
DAL|Desktopllutz, or I might be lucky and it won't load the NIC drivers again until I reboot06:45
dougbb(really you should back up the data anyway, but that's another topic)06:45
llutzDAL|Desktop: not a driver issue, it's an udev-rule06:45
llutzDAL|Desktop: check /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules06:46
dougbbwell you can just delete that file before you move the disk, it will get recreated .... moving a system disk is still not a good idea06:46
DAL|Desktopllutz, Hmm? I was just about to throw things last time I booted after a kernel update. I modprobed the driver and then ifconfig refused to see the NIC06:46
Lucid_LynxHow do i list the information on a process knowing its id ?06:47
llutzLucid_Lynx: ps -p <pid>06:48
badboiHi there guys. Quick question: when adding users to my server (adduser), they can read all the data in /home directory of other users. Is this normal? Can it be disabled ?06:48
llutzbadboi: chmod homes 700 to avoid that06:48
Lucid_Lynxllutz, thank you, pal..06:48
badboiIt seemed kinda silly/weird to me that these are default rights06:48
badboithanks for you answer llutz06:48
llutzbadboi: those are silly defaults06:49
dougbbbadboi: users have the ability to make directories private if they want to06:49
badboii see..06:49
dougbbbut "back in the day" sharing resources between users was the norm, and helped to avoid duplication of data when disk space was very expensive/precious06:49
badboidefault of home is 755 i see06:50
llutzdougbb: wven "back in those days" there was no reason to give anyone access to a users home06:50
dougbbllutz: we'll have to agree to disagree on that one06:51
llutzdougbb: bind-mount exists since ages, symlinks do aswell06:51
badboii did a chmod 700 on the /home dir06:51
badboihowever, now i get the following if i "cd" as a logged in user06:51
llutzbadboi: not on /home but on $HOME06:51
dougbbbadboi: you should also do that on the individual directories in /home06:51
dougbbyou should not do that on /home itself06:52
guest47230hi. i am trying to install a wifi driver. I have no idea how to do this. any help will be much appreciated.06:52
badboioh i have to do this for every user i add seperately ?06:52
dougbbbadboi: yes ... in theory you should be able to edit the default directory permissions06:52
badboidefault directory permissions are maybe in the skeleton for new users ?06:53
dougbbbadboi: /etc/adduser.conf looks promising06:53
badboiDIR_MODE=075506:53
A_J_I'm planning on doing a fresh install of Ubuntu and was wondering what folders do I need to back up to make a back of of Deluge so that I don't have to lose my active seeding torrents?06:53
badboidougbb: that did the trick06:55
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badboithanks all of you for your responses ^_^06:56
dougbbexcellent :)06:56
dougbbA_J_: do you have the original torrent files?06:56
Guest59426Wifi Driver just need network-Manager and Network-Manager-Gnome if you are using Ubuntu06:57
Quark__One thing to keep in mind is that directories have to be executable to view the contents, chmod +x, but making all files executable is a security risk (some would say mild, other would say severe)  So you should set them differently:06:57
badboiQuark__: directed to me ?06:58
Quark__> find . -type f -exec chmod 644 {} ; find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {}06:58
ramborockswhy do people dislike unity?06:58
Guest59426I like Unity, its just lacking some user control06:58
llutzQuark__: chmod 700 $HOME sets +x on the dir only, no files affected at all. same for DIR-MODE06:58
lotuspsychjeramborocks: because they might be still used to gnome06:58
dougbbQuark__: you're answering a question no one is asking :)06:58
Guest59426Viewing my comics from the UNity screen is nice06:58
A_J_dougbb no. they are all added into deluge close to 500 of them06:59
ramborockshmm06:59
ramborocksits been so long +5 years since i used kde / gnome06:59
dougbbA_J_: d'oh!   Look in ~/.config ... it's probably in there06:59
Quark__Could be, thats what I get for surfing #ubuntu late at night it seems.07:00
A_J_dougbb so just copy it. and put them in my new setup ?07:00
slickyhi07:00
lotuspsychjefor some machines unity doesnt run well (older hardware), that might also be a dislike07:00
slickyis there an easy way to dedupe a directory?07:00
ramborocksahh legacy hardware i see07:00
ramborocksyeah that makes sense07:01
dougbbA_J_: I don't know, I don't use deluge ... but in theory you should be able to find the configuration you're looking for there07:01
dougbbA_J_: there is a #deluge on this network, try asking there07:01
slickyis there a tool that can find duplicate files in a directory?07:01
lotuspsychjeramborocks: alot of users also swear bu kubuntu or xubuntu for years so...unity is a choice07:01
dougbbslicky: FSlint07:01
* dougbb uses xubuntu personally07:02
A_J_dougbb i tried there, it's not that active there. thanks though :)07:02
dougbbA_J_: it's  a major holiday in the US, and most of the rest of the western world ... try again tomorrow :)07:02
ramborockswhats xubuntu ?07:02
ramborocksim a newb to linux07:02
ramborocksas i need not even state07:02
dougbbramborocks: ubuntu with the XFCE desktop instead of unity07:02
A_J_indeed dougbb lol07:02
DAL|Desktopdougbb, ta. I was hoping I wouldn't have to reinstall all my OSes since Ubuntu has all the drivers compiled in07:03
Gnea!ppa07:03
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge07:03
slickythanks dougbb07:03
lotuspsychjeramborocks: you can test for yourself by install xubuntu-desktop from your ubuntu desktop07:04
dougbbslicky: glad to help07:04
ramborocksthanks lotus07:04
dougbblotuspsychje: personally I wouldn't recommend that ... IME switching DEs is not a smooth process07:04
ramborocksanother quick question. In wine why would i change say from windows 7 to windows xp? Is it just to see if the program for say.. couldnt run on the other... or is one supported better than the other?07:05
dougbb... although admittedly the last time I tried it was probably 9.x or so07:05
lotuspsychjedougbb: alot of users install other wm from their ubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu, enlightment, blackbox07:05
ramborocksim watching a youtube video on xubuntu07:06
lotuspsychjedougbb: as for a test he could try it safely right07:06
ramborocksoh how i love youtube lol07:06
dougbblotuspsychje: my experience was that switching TO a new desktop environment generally worked Ok, but switching back afterwards ... not so much07:06
lotuspsychjeramborocks: what is your purpose for windows on your ubuntu?07:06
dougbbbut like I said, it may have improved in the last years07:07
lotuspsychjedougbb: its improved alot07:07
dougbbthat's good to hear :)07:07
lotuspsychje!info xubuntu-desktop | dougbb07:07
ubottudougbb: xubuntu-desktop (source: xubuntu-meta): Xubuntu desktop system. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.174 (saucy), package size 3 kB, installed size 44 kB07:07
lotuspsychjedougbb: i used it many times on machines that doesnt run unity smooth07:07
ramborocksit looks like how i remember linux looking when i first played around with it07:08
lotuspsychjeramborocks: you can use virtualbox on your ubuntu, to emulate windows (if you need that)07:08
ramborockslong long ago07:08
lotuspsychjedougbb: did you test enlightment lately?07:08
dougbblotuspsychje: nope ... I've been an XFCE user for a long time07:09
lotuspsychjedougbb: fun and oldskool :p07:09
lotuspsychje!info e17 | dougbb07:09
ubottudougbb: e17 (source: e17): Enlightenment DR17 Window Manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.17.3-1 (saucy), package size 2410 kB, installed size 6387 kB07:09
dougbbalthough lately I've been a little annoyed at the lack of emerald support07:09
lotuspsychjedougbb: you on 13.10 xubuntu?07:09
dougbband I am quite an old school user, yes07:09
dougbbyes07:09
dougbbemerald is badly broken on 13.10, I had to revert to gtk-window-decorator :(07:10
lotuspsychjedougbb: emerald is that the effects compiz thing?07:10
dougbbit's not for effects, it's what you're supposed to use with compiz to provide window decorations07:11
dougbb(title bars, resize handles, etc.)07:11
dhruvhi07:11
lotuspsychjedougbb: ah i see!07:11
cfhowlettdhruv, greetings07:11
dougbbup till 13.10 you had to compile it yourself, but it worked fine ... now it has all kinds of issues07:11
lotuspsychjedougbb: im using effects on compiz from ubuntu 13.04 64bit07:12
dougbbyes, the compiz stuff works fine07:12
lotuspsychjedougbb: maybe the #xubuntu guys might know howto solve your emerald issue?07:12
dougbblotuspsychje: not so far, but I haven't been in there when there during the day yet .... I only recently isolated the problem to emerald in any case07:13
dhruvim trying to unmount a parition in ubuntu but i couldnt do it. can any please help me this07:13
lotuspsychjedhruv: did you try gparted mate?07:14
ItsMeLennywhere do i find a list of env commands for wine07:14
dougbbdhruv, the usual cause of that problem is that something is holding a file descriptor open in the partition07:14
ItsMeLennythose like WINEPREFIX=07:14
dhruvno im using KDE parition manager07:14
ItsMeLennyoh, in man07:14
lotuspsychje!info gparted | dhruv07:15
ubottudhruv: gparted (source: gparted): GNOME partition editor. In component main, is optional. Version 0.16.1-1 (saucy), package size 517 kB, installed size 1816 kB07:15
ramborockswhy would someone edit commands in wine?07:15
dougbbdhruv, what error do you get when you try to unmount?07:15
dhruvwhen i right click on the parition the unmount option is not active07:16
dhruvit says i cant unmount the parition07:17
llutzdhruv: what partition is it, where is it mounted to?07:18
llutzdhruv: "mount" in a terminal might help to get that info07:18
dhruvext4 type parition07:19
dhruvwhen i open gparted program and when i click on ext4 type parition to unmount it, it doesnt work07:24
cristian_cHi07:24
cristian_cI installed qt4-qtconfig. When I open the qt configuration tool, I change the font type and size. Then I select File-> Save, and the string 'Saved changes.' appears in the statusbar07:25
thom_rcristian_c: hello07:25
cristian_cBut if I close and reopen the configuration tool, I find the previous settings, as if I had not made ​​any changes07:25
cristian_cthom_r, hello07:25
lotuspsychjedhruv: did you sudo gparted?07:25
dhruvwhat is sudo gparted?07:25
lotuspsychjedhruv: start gparted from terminal: sudo gparted07:26
cristian_cHow can I solve this problem?07:26
cristian_cAny ideas?07:26
dougbbcristian_c: check the permissions on your home directory, then run the qt4-config program from a shell, and see if there are any errors07:27
dhruvim sorry im very new to ubuntu can you help me through this07:27
dhruvhow should i sudo gparted from terminal07:27
dougbbdhruv, do you know what a terminal is? Do you have one open?07:27
lotuspsychjedhruv: what do you want to do with your partition?07:27
dhruvim trying to install windows 807:28
lotuspsychjelol?07:28
dougbbdhruv, you don't install windows 8 inside ubuntu :)07:28
thom_rdhruv: are you trying to wipe Windows 8 and install Ubuntu?07:28
lotuspsychjedhruv: why dont you stay on ubuntu mate, w8 is bad...07:28
dhruvno im trying to wipe ubuntu and install windows 807:29
thom_rI don't understand why anyone in their right mind would want to use Windows at all07:29
cristian_cdougbb, I've tried with the guest user and I've also created a new user07:29
lotuspsychjedhruv: does your ubuntu dont please you?07:29
dougbbdhruv, ok, then you don't need to unmount anything, just boot the windows 8 installer and let it reformat the drive for you07:29
thom_rdhruv: why do you want to get rid of Ubuntu for Windows 8?07:30
cristian_cdougbb, I'll try to run the configurator from the terminal07:30
dougbbcristian_c: OK07:30
dhruvi have tried, that it gives me option to choose in which parition iwant to install it07:30
dhruvbut non of the paritions are active07:31
lotuspsychjedhruv: can you explain to us why you dont like ubuntu?07:31
dhruvim not that comfortable with it07:31
lotuspsychjedhruv: howso?07:31
thom_rdhruv: try Zorin07:31
dougbbdhruv, you should probably get some help from the windows folks on that one then .... do you have anything on the drive you want to preserve, or does it all need to be wiped out?07:31
dhruvokthanks07:32
lotuspsychjelol07:32
dougbbfolks, linux isn't for everyone,  no sense trying to talk someone into doing something they aren't ready for07:32
thom_rhttp://linuxscreenshot.netsons.org/wp-content/gallery/zorin-os-6/linux-screenshot-zorin-os-6-00.jpg07:32
thom_rdhruv: check that out07:32
* lotuspsychje thinks another soul selled to m1cr0s0ft07:32
thom_roops, he left07:32
cristian_cdougbb, I've tried to run 'qtconfig-qt4' and I've made the change, bug no messages have been printed07:33
cristian_c:(07:33
llutzlotuspsychje: an OS is a tool not a religion (at least: should be)07:33
bob___Where can I find the usbmgr.conf?07:34
sgo11any program can download youtube video in ubuntu? thanks.07:34
lotuspsychjellutz: for many users, ubuntu is also a way of life07:34
bob___sgo11: You can always use www.onlinevideoconverter.com07:34
thom_rsgo11: All Video Downloader07:34
somsipsgo11: youtube-dl http://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/07:34
lotuspsychjellutz: opensource minded ppl, and an ease for our digital life07:35
SaberX01lotuspsychje, The same could be said about a great many things, not just Linux operating systems.07:35
bob___I can't seem to find any information if whether ubuntu uses usbmgr or hotplug07:35
dougbbcristian_c: that's a weird one ... try this:  assuming your username is cristian_c:  find /home/cristian_c ! -user cristian_c07:35
dougbbsubstitute your real user name if it's different07:35
cristian_cdougbb, ok07:35
bob___Where can I find usbmgr.conf?07:36
dougbbbob___: did you try: locate usbmgr.conf07:36
SaberX01bob___, it's the kernel, udev and rules.d07:37
bob___SaberX01:  What do you mean "it's the kernel"07:37
bob___dougbb:  Yup, no results found with that one.07:37
sgo11somsip, thanks for the answer. I use youtube-dl before. it does not support proxy as the time I tried it. I will check it again.07:37
cristian_cdougbb, I get a list of files belonging to my home :O07:37
yash069bob___: /etc/usbmgr/usbmgr.conf07:37
lotuspsychjesgo11: try the #firefox channel for asking other cool addons07:38
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bob___yash069:  No such file or directory.07:38
sgo11lotuspsychje, thanks.07:38
bob___I also tried /etc/hotplug, none found either.07:38
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dougbbcristian_c: Ok, that sounds like a permissions problem then .... again assuming your user name is cristian_c, do this:  chown -R cristian_c:cristian_c /home/cristian_c07:38
cristian_c176 files07:38
cristian_cok07:39
dougbbcristian_c: you're not logging in as root, are you?07:39
cristian_cno07:39
cristian_c:D07:39
dougbbOk07:39
cristian_cI'm not so stupid07:39
cristian_c:)07:39
yash069bob___: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/dapper/en/man5/usbmgr.conf.5.html07:40
cristian_cdougbb, chown -R cristian:cristian /home/cristian is not accepted because I've not launched this command with privileges07:40
dougbbok, so prepend sudo to that command07:41
cristian_cOperation not permitted07:41
cristian_cok07:41
dougbbsudo chown ....07:41
cristian_cit's working...07:41
cristian_cthen, I'l try to launch the find command again07:42
bob___yash069:  Like I said, it is nowhere to be found on my system. I'm wondering how my system manages the flash drive I just connection. Hehe07:42
bob___connected*07:42
cristian_cchown: unable to access to "/home/cristian/.gvfs": Permission denied07:43
cristian_conly this message07:43
cristian_cgood work07:43
nearsthello good ppl07:43
cfhowlettnearst, ... and the rest of us?  no greeting?  no nothing?07:43
cristian_cok07:44
cristian_cdougbb, find /home/cristian ! -user cristian returns only the commands prompt07:44
cristian_c:)07:44
nearstcfhowlett, hi !  and merry xmas to all07:44
badboiany apache experts here ^^ ?07:44
dougbbcristian_c: ok, that's what we'd expect .... go ahead and try the qt4-config again07:45
lotuspsychjebadboi: #httpd07:45
cristian_cok07:45
badboiyeah im in that channel already, but kinda quiet :x07:45
nearstjust upgrade saucy :)07:45
lotuspsychjebadboi: or ask your ubuntu apache issue07:45
dougbbcfhowlett: this isn't a chat channel07:45
badboiwell its not ubuntu-related but okay :)07:46
badboiIm trying to setup: user.domain.com and use public_html folder in user directory: /home/user/public_html - was wondering if this is possible07:46
lotuspsychjebadboi: if you have apache on ubuntu, it is07:46
badboithat i do07:46
cristian_cdougbb, i've tried now. No messages displayed in the terminal and no changes saved when I open again the configurator07:46
cristian_c:(07:46
bob___There is no /etc/usbmgr, /etc/usbmgr/usbmgr.conf, /etc/hotplug, or /etc/hotplug/usb.usermap in my system. Yet I can see the contents of my connected flash drive. What does my system uses to manage it?07:46
lotuspsychje!lamp | maybe anything usefull here badboi07:46
ubottumaybe anything usefull here badboi: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process.07:46
badboii found a lot of sites expllaining how to use mods-available , but that translates www.domain.com/~user/ to /home/user/public_html automatically07:47
dougbbcristian_c: not sure what to tell you then .... the next step would be to truss the process07:47
SaberX01bob___, This is about as good of explanation as one would expect to find for all the parts involved; http://blogas.sysadmin.lt/?p=14107:48
lotuspsychjebadboi: the #ubuntu-server guys might also have experience on apache aswell07:48
cristian_cdougbb, I've not understood the meaning of 'truss' :)07:48
dougbbbadboi: the short answer to your question is no .... the longer answer is that you could probably do it with enough configuration tweaks, but it's not on topic for this channel07:48
dougbbcristian_c: yeah ... you probably want to try in #qt07:49
cristian_cah, ok, tie, bind07:49
dougbbthey may be able to give you more debugging details07:49
llutzcristian_c: is the config being read at startup at all? "strace -e open -f "qtcreator" ">&1 |grep home"  should give you a list of files being open when starting "qtcreator" (replace this by the correct app-name)07:49
cristian_cdougbb, ok, thansk very much for the support :)07:49
lotuspsychjeItsMeLenny: did your ubuntu setup work mate?07:49
dougbbcristian_c: or try what llutz said :)07:50
cristian_cllutz, I don't know if the config is read at all at startup, but I'll check it :)07:51
cristian_cllutz, i'll try the strace command07:51
bob___SaberX01: Thanks for the site, however, I'm just wondering where the files, the utilities, are. I can't find them in my system.07:52
cristian_cdougbb, ok, now I've got many things to do :)07:52
cristian_cthanks07:52
dougbbgood luck cristian_c, I'll be afk for a bit07:53
cristian_cok07:53
SaberX01bob___, There all over the place depending on that it is, check /dev for devices, check dmesg messages about connection status and configuration events.07:53
ramborocksany good documentarys on linux07:53
ramborocksive watched revolution os07:53
SaberX01 .. on what it is ..07:53
ramborocksyeah you know something to watch with the wife07:53
bob___SaberX01: I'm pretty new to Linux so I don't really understand how it works. According to what I read it says that the utility are in /etc/usbmgr/usbmgr.conf which I can't find in my system07:54
SaberX01lol . I recommend the history channel, discovery etc, NGO, anything but not Utube via the Internet .. lol07:55
lotuspsychjeramborocks: the ubuntu-touch video is nice, but not really a docu :p07:55
ramborockslol07:55
SaberX01bob___, Do you have a specific problem your trying to resolve? if not, maybe #ubuntu-ot is a better place for general discussion.07:56
nearst:)07:56
helmut_hi07:56
thom_rhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XTHdcmjenI&list=FLQyIlFhZ9P5rOQ6mFCU3Y8w&index=107:57
thom_rdecent enough video07:57
thom_rit's only 18 minutes07:57
lotuspsychjeramborocks: maybe ubuntu party might get you on the right track07:57
ramborocksooo a ted talks!07:57
ramborockslove those07:57
lotuspsychje!party | ramborocks07:57
ubotturamborocks: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, #edubuntu, and #lubuntu are support channels. To countdown to !Saucy release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/2534/07:57
ramborocksthanks07:57
bob___SaberX01: Oh, I'm sorry about that. I'll visit the room. Thanks07:57
ramborockslol07:58
lotuspsychjeramborocks: you can already say to your wife, your on the most popular Os in the world07:58
llutzhis wife will be amazed07:59
ramborockslol07:59
ramborockswife thinks my learning linux is stupid07:59
thom_rLinux is everywhere. It's pretty hard to get away from Linux.08:00
ramborocksshe loves her windows 808:00
lotuspsychjeramborocks: she's wrong08:00
ramborocks:)08:00
cny-buntudoes she use an android phone?08:00
cny-buntuor kindle ...08:00
ramborocksshe uses iphone i got the android08:00
thom_rJust tell your wife that Facebook and Google run Linux. If that isn't good enough tell her that the US nuclear submarine fleet runs Linux08:00
ramborocksnope she uses ipad for that too08:00
cny-buntulol08:00
ramborocksits like talking religion in our house08:00
lotuspsychjeok lets focus back to ubuntu support :p08:01
cny-buntu<-- doesn't like apple08:01
ramborocks:) im taking off08:01
ramborocksi got a 18 minute clip to catch before bed08:01
lotuspsychjeramborocks: welcome to the ubuntu community ok08:01
cny-buntuciao08:01
ramborocksthank you]08:01
thom_rgood luck ramborocks08:02
Abhijitdougbb, still getting this error http://pastebin.com/QwgAPZ8v help08:03
lotuspsychjeAbhijit: did you sudo apt-get update?08:03
SaberX01Id' do a clean, autoclean then update try again08:04
SaberX01and try again08:04
Abhijitlotuspsychje, same erro after apt get update08:05
lotuspsychjeAbhijit: try what SaberX01 sugested then08:06
Abhijitok08:07
lotuspsychjeAbhijit: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto08:07
JohnnyLWhat would cause Firefox package after a do-release-upgrade crash at Firefox start while a ftp download install of firefox with same .mozilla work fine?08:17
dougbbAbhijit: did you do all the commands I pasted for you earlier?08:17
SaberX01JohnnyL, something wrong with the repo package, could be anything really.08:18
cny-buntucan some help me with a networking issue?08:19
lotuspsychjeJohnnyL: try running firefox from terminal?08:19
lotuspsychjecny-buntu: if its ubuntu related sure mate08:19
Abhijitdougbb, yes.08:19
AbhijitSaberX01, lotuspsychje did clean autoclean autoremove and update. still same error.08:19
cny-buntusorta I think08:20
lotuspsychjeAbhijit: check this out maybe: http://askubuntu.com/questions/140940/why-do-i-receive-the-duplicate-sources-error-message-during-an-ubuntu-12-04-li08:20
SaberX01Abhijit, what you trying to install? Need the error and how yoru trying to install it.08:20
AbhijitSaberX01, its when i install updates. something related to perl.08:21
cny-buntudeals with setting ipv4 in netwotk connections to share with other computers08:21
SaberX01Abhijit, chesk what lotuspsychje sent you .. that seems reasonable.08:21
SaberX01check08:21
Abhijitok08:21
cny-buntui have wlan0 and eth0. wlan is my internet, eth is private08:22
SaberX01cny-buntu, what are you trying to do, and what is the SW not doing that you expect it too do?08:22
cny-buntuwhen I share eth0 to other computers is changes my internal ip from 192.x.x.x to 10.x.x.x08:23
SaberX01cny-buntu, from my experience with ICS it's ben 10.x.x.x08:23
lotuspsychjecny-buntu: maybe the ##nteworking guys might help you also?08:24
lotuspsychje##networking08:24
z8zGuys sorry for annoying but i got confused about a license issue. A c++ library i want to use for a commercial software which license should have GPL or LGPL?08:24
dougbbz8z, wrong channel08:25
SaberX01cny-buntu, that' the correct behavior for ICS .. your primary NIC or Gateway would be the 192.x.x.x and the share is 10.x.x.x that's how it is set up to work.08:25
cny-buntumy eth0 is wired to a wireless router08:26
YOURBESTFRIENDz8z: LGPL08:26
cny-buntumy wlan0 is internal wnic on laptop08:26
lotuspsychje!gpl | z8z08:26
ubottuz8z: gpl is the GNU General Public License. See http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html08:26
nearstwew08:26
lotuspsychje!lpgl08:27
lotuspsychje!lgpl08:27
ubottulgpl is the Lesser GPL, formerly called the Library GPL. See http://www.gnu.org/licenses/lgpl.html08:27
SaberX01cny-buntu, what exactly are you trying do .. ?  your setup seems backwards for ICS08:27
cny-buntuwhen i try to connect another machine via wirless router, i have to connect multiple times to pull the correct ip of 10.x.x.x instead of 192.x.x.x if that makes sense08:27
z8zYOURBESTFRIEND: thanks... you are the man!08:27
cny-buntumy internal wlan0 does not support master mode, hence the wireless router08:28
cny-buntumy router has an ip of 192.167.x.x08:28
SaberX01cny-buntu, sorry, but none of this is making sense, if you have a wireless router, you can share that through the eth0 NIC to another computer, but not the wlan0 connection.08:28
cny-buntuok08:29
SaberX01cny-buntu, so the process goes somethign like this:08:29
lotuspsychjeSaberX01: can ad-hoc help him?08:29
nearstcny-buntu, gateway WAN usually on public ip. 192.x.x.x is class C IP08:29
cny-bunturemote machine connects to wireless router goes through eth0 then out wlan008:29
SaberX01cny-buntu, Router = Wireless to Computer1, then eth0 on Computer1 to Computer2 .. computer2 gets the 10.x.x.x IP addy from computer1.08:30
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cny-buntusorry if i am not explaing it right, don't know much about networking but trying08:30
dougbbcny-buntu: that doesn't make any sense ... why don't you just plug the ethernet cable into the WAN port on the router, then use the router as it's designed to be used?08:30
nearstcny-buntu, u setup it on vm ? or phy hardware ?08:30
cny-buntuphysical08:31
nearstprobably routing stuff08:31
cny-buntumy problem is, lets i connect a kindle or droid to my wireless router, sometimes it picks up the routers ip of 192.x.x.x08:32
cny-buntuso i have to disconnect and reconnect till i get a 10.x.x.x ip08:33
cny-buntumake sense?08:33
SaberX01No08:33
nearstso make it static08:33
archymeThats what its supposed to do cny08:33
lotuspsychjewell thats not really relevant to ubuntu anymore08:33
archymeWhy do you want a 10.x ip08:33
SaberX01cny-buntu, log into your router and reserve an IP address for the Kindle or whatever, you dont have to mess with static IP's08:33
SaberX01cny-buntu, Additionaly, unless your router is set to dish out IP in a subclass 10.x.x.x yrou non-shared devices shoutld get a 192,x.x.x somthing or other IP addy.08:35
dougbbcny-buntu: why do you want the devices connected to the router to get a 10/8 address, instead of an address on the dhcp server of the router?08:35
cny-buntui don't, it's just the way it worked out when i share eth008:35
SaberX01cny-buntu, Ok, why are you sharing eth0 ?08:35
SaberX01and what is eth0 connected to?08:36
cny-buntueth0 is wired to my wireless router08:36
nearstah, ok. and then?08:36
dougbbcny-buntu: so then the bigger question is, why are you sharing eth0 on your laptop instead of plugging the internet connection into the WAN port on the router?08:36
SaberX01cny-buntu, you dont need to share that connection then.08:36
dougbbright, what SaberX01 said08:37
cny-buntuif i don't share it, i don't have ICS on remote machines08:37
dougbbyou're trying to make things too complicated08:37
cny-buntui can't share wlan0 , no master mode08:37
dougbbcny-buntu: why do you want to do ICS instead of letting the router do it's job?08:37
SaberX01cny-buntu, let the wireless router dish out IP's to the wireless devices, like Kindle or whatever, then your laptop or desktop is the NIC port on the box/router.08:37
cny-bunturouter has no internet08:37
dougbbso why are you not plugging the internet into the router in the first place?08:38
nearstand eth0 to the route ?08:38
SaberX01FUBAR08:38
cny-buntui get free wireless08:38
cny-buntuthere is no hardwired modem to my router08:38
SaberX01cny-buntu, so your Internet, or Gateway is VIA the Wireless router ?08:38
dougbbaha!08:39
cny-buntuno it is not08:39
dougbbso get a wireless bridge ... then you can use the bridge to connect to the ISP, and plug the other end into the WAN port on the router08:39
archymeCny why does your router not have internet? If you dont want your router to route and just want it as a switch then turn off dhcp and let something else run your dhcp08:39
llutzcny-buntu: and your wifi-router doesn't support bridge/repeater-mode?08:39
dougbbright now you're trying to use your laptop as the bridge ... that's not a good plan08:39
cny-buntuno it doesn't, i tried that. just trying to make things work with what I have08:40
cny-bunturight dougbb08:40
cny-buntutrying to make the laptop work as the modem08:40
SaberX01cny-buntu, easiest option is to get a second wireless access-point and use that as your LAN DHCP08:41
SaberX01and hang a switch off that for wired connections.08:41
archymeA laptop isnt a modem and wont work like one08:41
dougbbSaberX01: no need to get a full wap to do that, a cheap-o wireless bridge will do the trick just fine08:42
cny-buntuarchyme, it does work, sometimes08:42
dougbbI'm using that setup now08:42
cny-buntuso the wireless bridge is more hardware?08:42
dougbbyes, usually around $3008:42
nearstor look another firmware for route to make a wireless bridge08:42
cny-buntusomething I can get at the bigbox stores?08:42
dougbbnearst: most low-end consumer routers don't have the circuitry08:43
dougbbcny-buntu: yes08:43
nearsttry ask at #openwrt .08:43
cny-buntumy router isn't supported by WRT08:44
cny-buntutried that08:44
SaberX01dougbb, however he wants to do .. whatever is easy, but the current arrangement going to causing collisions and connection issues.08:44
cny-buntuyes it does08:44
cny-buntunetwork crashes all the time :(08:44
dougbbSaberX01: right, I'm saying that using the laptop for a bridge is a bad idea :)08:44
SaberX01Personally, I'd treate the 1st Wireless Router and a Border or Edge Router, and that it, but tha'ts just me.08:44
nearstbcoz your laptop confuse, thats why08:45
dougbbhowever, using a bridge for a bridge will work a treat08:45
cny-buntuthanks for all the help :)08:45
SaberX01dougbb, He could setup a DHCP Server .. have the wireless router be the gateway and eth0 route to a switch and dish out IPS, then hang an access point off that, that would work.08:47
nearstit possible tbh. but prefer the easiest way :)08:48
SaberX01Easiest way is a second wireless router, and hard line between them, use 2nd router for LAN08:48
totesmuhgoatshi folks08:49
totesmuhgoatshas anyone here installed handbrake from the stebbins ppa? i just installed it but i don't seem to have anything resembling a handbrake executable in PATH08:49
somsip!PPA | totesmuhgoats08:50
ubottutotesmuhgoats: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge08:50
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totesmuhgoatssomsip: i seem to have added the ppa succesfully, because apt-cache search yielded no packages before and afterward showed the package, i installed it succesfully, i just don't know what the name of the executable is, or if it maybe installed somewhere not in PATH08:51
llutztotesmuhgoats: dpkg -L handbrake-packagename|grep "bin/"08:52
dougbbSaberX01: sure, but my way is easier :)08:53
JohnnyLyeah. basically you don't know.08:53
totesmuhgoatsllutz: thank you very much, for some reason the bin is HandBrakeCLI, not handbrake or similar as i was expecting08:53
llutztotesmuhgoats: stupid naming... but now you know what to use08:53
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totesmuhgoatsi really need to learn more about dpkg, i thought it was just for making and installing packages08:55
robcarhello everybody08:56
robcarubuntu 13.10 64bit here08:56
llutztotesmuhgoats: well it has a database and some options to query it, mostly used are -L and -S i guess08:56
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robcarone thing that I really miss of Windows 7 is its taskbar, specifically the window preview feature08:57
robcarfor instance it shows the opened IE tabs and I can close them individually08:58
robcaris it possible to have this feature in ubuntu?08:58
thom_rI've never used Windows 7 for more than like an hour08:58
totesmuhgoatsllutz: thanks, pal08:59
SaberX01Unity Dash, one you master it, blows windows task bar away.08:59
thom_rrobcar, are you talking about when you hover the mouse over a windows you have minimized in the taskbar and it shows you what it is?08:59
SaberX01*once08:59
dougbbthom_r: yes, that's what he's referring to09:00
robcarI do love dash, but the question is: can the launcher show preview windows of the opened apps?09:00
thom_rI don't know if the Unity dock does that. I know Zorin does it with the awn panel09:00
robcarkubuntu has a similar feature but it doesn't let you close the windows09:00
SaberX01If you have say, 2x Chrome apps open, not Tabs, and ya click on the launcher, mine puts them in two different work spaces ..09:02
SaberX01and I can Alt-Tab though both  instantly.09:02
SaberX01*through09:02
robcarsaberx01, thanks, yeah I saw it, though it's not so immediate as in win709:03
SaberX01I dont know, my time on windows usually spans long enough to boot a box and get rid of it, apart from one, that I have  to use for a couple specific programs.09:05
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Richhhi liked to use mspaint to immediately draw ideas, so far haven't found a linux equivalent (something that loads in <1s on a 2GHz Celeron, something with a simple UI like pinta), ideally something that can save to .svg too, not web based09:10
linuxlitehello09:10
Richhhhi09:10
ikoniatux paint09:10
cfhowlettlinuxlite, greetings09:10
Richhhk will try09:10
linuxliteanyone here knows mysql09:10
cfhowlett!mysql09:11
ubottuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process.09:11
ikoniacfhowlett: thank you, need to fix that alias, mysql is not lamp09:11
grylinuxlite, hi, what's up09:11
linuxlitei guess the DISTINCT does not work on integers09:11
linuxlitehi gry09:11
linuxlitehello cfhowlett09:11
ikonialinuxlite it should do, and also be aware of the channel #mysql - good mysql guys in there09:12
linuxlitehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6638445/ this is my query09:12
apb1963_anyone know how to get plasma desktop weather wallpaper to work?09:12
linuxlitehttp://picpaste.com/shot-MZXD9d9D.png here is my screenshot09:12
apb1963_ubuntu 12.0409:12
linuxlitethanks ikonia il join them now09:13
SaberX01that query scrolled like 4mile off my screen ... lol09:13
linuxliteikonia cannot join channel on mysql09:13
linuxliteSaberX01 thats ok09:13
ikonialinuxlite: you need a registered freenode account09:14
ikonia!register | linuxlite09:14
ubottulinuxlite: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode09:14
ikonialinuxlite: also the guys in #freenode can help you register if you get stuck09:14
nearstaha ikonia , how are u xD09:14
SaberX01no really makes it hard to understand .. but MySQL channel somewhere probably best chance at a fix fer that one.09:14
ikonialinuxlite: looks like a syntax error, no the two ' ' don'tseem to make sense09:15
grylinuxlite: and pastebin with line wrap and error message09:15
gry... i can't read that09:16
linuxliteit works the Identification shows 1,4,2,4 but i want it 1,4,2 only09:17
linuxlitei used distinct09:17
linuxlitemailto:jlgradiostation@gmail.com09:20
linuxlitejlgradiostation@gmail.com has too many accounts registered.09:20
linuxliteit says ^^^09:20
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YOURBESTFRIENDhow do I know if an executable is 32 bit or 64 bit?09:24
ikoniaYOURBESTFRIEND: run "file" against it, or right click properties on it09:25
YOURBESTFRIENDikonia: thank you09:25
sazawalSorry, I could not find a room for "cron" package, so I am asking here. I used < folderpathwithspaces IN_OPEN myscript "$@" > to watch a directory using cron. The directory has spaces in its path, but the wildcard $@ is only giving me watched path till the first space inside myscript. How can I fix this?09:27
dougbbdon't use directories or files with spaces in unix :)09:28
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ikoniaandrex: 1.) don't use cron like that directly executing commands - put it in a script 2.) use escape chars, eg: directory\ with\ spaces09:28
sazawaldougbb, I have put backslashes before the spaces as well09:29
sazawalikonia, I have done that but its not helping09:29
ikoniasazawal: show me the script09:29
bytefirewhat should be efi partition size on a 500gb hdd for ubuntu install?09:29
ikoniabytefire: same as on a 1GB or 1TB disk09:29
ikoniabytefire: it doesn't change09:29
sazawalikonia, ok I will put it in pastebin09:29
thom_rbytefire: are you installing alongside something or is Ubuntu the only OS?09:30
bytefireubuntu is only os09:30
kartikalongside windows 809:30
thom_rjust do an install, it will do all the work for you.09:30
bytefirethom_r it gives a problem: grub fails to install09:31
bytefirethat's why im doing partitioning09:31
bytefireikonia: what's tht size?09:31
ikoniabytefire: have you read the EFI install documentation?09:32
sazawalikonia, This is my /var/spool/incron/root entry http://pastebin.com/839RpAzW09:32
ikoniasazawal: incron ?09:32
thom_rbytefire: did you try installing in legacy mode?09:32
sazawalikonia, yes, why?09:33
ikoniasazawal thats not the default cron in ubuntu is it?09:33
bytefirethom_r in legacy mode, it doesn't recognise the live usb as boot device for some reason. it's acer aspire v5 12309:33
thom_rwhat program did you use to create the usb09:34
llutzikonia: incron is not a cron-replacemend09:34
YOURBESTFRIENDikonia: what does LSB mean?09:34
ikoniaYOURBESTFRIEND: linux standard base09:34
ikoniallutz: ah, thank you, I've never used it09:34
YOURBESTFRIENDin the context of "file"09:34
bytefireikonia: i have EFI install documentation open. problem is i dont have the background knowledge for most of the stuff09:34
YOURBESTFRIENDi.e. file program09:34
YOURBESTFRIENDstill linux standard base?09:34
sazawalikonia, no its not. The default in ubuntu I guess is only timed scheduler, using which I can execute a command at a given time. I installed it using "apt-get install incron". Using incron I can watch a directory for changes at any time.09:34
llutzikonia: it monitors and acts on filesystem-events09:35
ikoniasazawal: I've never used incron so I don't know the syntax,09:35
YOURBESTFRIENDor least significant bit? or late static binding?09:35
bytefirethom_r: im using universal usb installer09:35
sazawalikonia, ok09:35
ikoniaYOURBESTFRIEND I've just told you what it is09:36
sazawalllutz, Can you help me with this?09:36
bytefirethom_r: from ere http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/09:36
llutzsazawal: how does your script parse options?09:36
thom_rbytefire: I've never used that program. I almost always use Unetbootin09:36
sazawalllutz, I have used $1 inside myscript to get the folder path.09:36
bytefirethom_r: will unetbootin work on windows?09:37
thom_rbytefire: yes09:37
bytefirety09:37
thom_rhttp://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/09:37
llutzsazawal: does your script get the full path or only the part until first space?09:38
bytefirecool09:38
sazawalllutz, but as you can see on my pastebin, it just stops at the first space giving < /home/sazawal/Downloads/movies/Annie >09:38
bytefirethom_r: just to confirm. for legacy mode, i need to set bios start up to legacy mode and then boot from live usb. right?09:38
llutzsazawal: thats what $1 contains, but did your script get the full path as parameter? check full parameter-line given by incron (write it for testpurpose into a file)09:39
thom_ryeah, choose legacy/csm mode instead of UEFI09:40
sazawalllutz, I dont understand. I tried to echo $1 to a text file and this is what I got. The rest of the things are in $2, $3... etc.09:40
thom_rsave and exit, then F12 for boot options, and choose your usb09:40
llutzsazawal: and $2 didn't contain the missing part of the path?09:41
bytefirethom_r: nice one...09:41
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sazawalllutz, it did, but the path has more spaces so it goes upto $3.09:41
thom_rgood luck09:41
llutzsazawal: so its not an incron issue, its your script.09:42
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sazawalllutz, How can I fix it? I even put double quotes across $@09:42
llutzsazawal: you might change IFS='' inside your script to read the full path with spaces09:43
kdzhello09:43
kdzwhat permissions do i need to be able to run an app?09:43
kdzi dont want to give my users sudo09:43
sazawalllutz, Oh let me check it09:43
llutzsazawal:  does $@ contain more than just the path/filename? if not, why do you fiddle with $1 and don't use $@ in your script09:44
kdzhi llutz09:45
sazawalI am not using $@ in myscript. I put $2 as a wildcard when myscript is executed by cron < /home/sazawal/Downloads/movies/Annie\ Hall\ (1977)/ IN_OPEN /opt/myscript "$@" >09:45
sazawalllutz,09:45
sazawalsorry I meant $@ i used09:45
ccha4hello, about unattended-upgrades, how to set Unattended-Upgrade::Allowed-Origins for all origins ?09:45
ItsMeLennySaberX01, you in?09:46
thom_rbytefire: did you get Unetbootin to work?09:47
sazawalllutz, This is myscript http://pastebin.com/jtPXsV6e. I put IFS='', but still not helping.09:48
havvis there an alternative for gMTP? it's terrible09:50
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, Yeah .. Im here, wath'en a bit of TV as well.09:51
LopeI've got a new laptop with nothing on it. I want to wipe the disk and use LVM on the whole disk. is it possible to do this with the Ubuntu installer?09:55
ItsMeLennySaberX01, ah, everythings practically up and running, however my network shows up as "unmanaged" and i cant find where to change that09:56
nearstLope, yes09:56
kdzhello who can help, how can i start a service for another user ?09:56
SaberX01Lope, sure, when the partitioner asks, just use the entire disk09:56
thikerhi09:57
SaberX01ItsMeLenny, where is theis msg appearing and is it not working?09:57
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thikerI need simple steps for full system backup with command09:58
ItsMeLennySaberX01, in the task bar, then when i go into network connections i can't alter anything09:58
ItsMeLennyin fact maybe i have to add one and it will fix up on next boot09:59
ItsMeLennyhmmm, maybe nevermind :P09:59
SaberX01Ok :-)09:59
ItsMeLenny:P thanks09:59
SaberX01thiker, Try this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem10:00
pejaanyone have problems with latest grub2? install http://pastebin.com/BGzGyxPX10:00
SaberX01peja, this a New system ? UEFI maybe ?10:01
pejaSaberX01: 1.99-21ubuntu3.14 for LTS 12.0410:03
qwerty2hi10:04
qwerty2i am new in irc chat10:04
thiker<saberx01> thank you10:05
thikersaberx01 thank you10:05
SaberX01peja, what were you doing when the error happened, install, SW upgrade what?10:05
gryqwerty2: hi! just ask your question and enjoy your stay10:05
pejaSaberX01: SW upgrade only10:05
SaberX01peja, Im not really sure, you could try re-installing grub, but looks like the HD / Controler not talk to the SW .. but that's a guess.10:06
qwerty2hi10:07
SaberX01hello10:07
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gryqwerty2: greetings10:07
grySaberX01: good day10:07
qwerty2yes men10:08
qwerty2FloodBot1: hi10:11
pejaSaberX01: tryed but same result : http://pastebin.com/a1YtmRec10:16
jamesIs this a help channel?10:18
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DGJonesGuest68966: Yes, this is the main support channel for Ubuntu10:18
SaberX01peja, you using the root account? that's not advised on a sudo system, can cause all sorts of issues .. you may need to do an update, sudo update-grub10:19
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pejaSaberX01: OK thz, but it's still have same problem10:21
SaberX01peja, Ok. Im not sure what that issue is, not seen that particular error before.10:22
Guest68966DGJones: how do i type to you? i put in a name and hit tab and it dont work. I have been trying tp upgrade from 64bit ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10 and the upgrade stalled at python dbus-dev. i'd like to close this and do it with the terminal do you know the commands?10:26
thikeri need to create a new folder and create new file within it bu using one command line,how?10:27
grymkdir and touch commands would do it10:28
SaberX01thiker, mkdir ./<dir-name>  .. then cd ./<dir-name>  .. touch new-file-name10:29
gryyou could also try using mkfile, there is an example at http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17986615/one-command-to-create-a-directory-and-file-inside-it-linux-commad10:29
Meerkatthiker, you can separate commands with ; if you need it on the same line10:29
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thikermeerkat same command not same line10:31
juliohy1970cj10:31
grythiker: i gave answer to that -- mkfile10:31
SaberX01can also use && to execute 2nd cmd only if 1st one is sucessful10:31
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SaberX01Isn't mkfile like from Sun or something, think UB has fallocate not mkfile10:34
bytefirethom_r you there?10:42
bytefiremanaged to install ubuntu 12.04 with efi.10:43
thom_ryeah10:43
thom_rsorry, was busy10:43
thom_rglad you got it installed10:43
bytefireno worries. since i was already on my way installing with efi so thought to go trhough with it10:44
thom_rwas that your first time installing?10:44
bytefireproblem i was getting before was wierd. gui wouldnt show. this time i said log in without ascking for credentials and gui came up fine10:44
bytefirethom_r: i did install it on a dell pc before10:45
thom_rhmm, I've never heard of that problem10:45
bytefirethat was intel dual core.. this one was a bit of a challenge10:45
thom_rglad it's working10:45
bytefirethanks for your help10:45
thom_rdid Unetbootin work better?10:45
bytefirei think unetbootin is better than what i was using bfore. now i'll stick to it10:46
SaberX01+1 on Unetbootin ,, I think thats the most reliable USB approach too.10:47
thom_rI've ran off a usb with Unetbootin for a whole week before while I was borrowing my dad's laptop10:48
sazawalSorry, I could not find a room for "cron" package, so I am asking here. I used < folderpathwithspaces IN_OPEN myscript "$@" > to watch a directory using cron. The directory has spaces in its path, but the wildcard $@ is only giving me watched path till the first space inside myscript. How can I fix this?10:50
thom_rsazawal, try posting it on www.linuxquestions.org10:52
Meerkatsazawal, quotes around the folder name or perhaps \ before each space10:52
SaberX01I don't know anything about incron syntax, never used it before.10:53
sazawalMeerkat, I did that, but it is still stopping at the first space. Another thing is that, the wildcard $@ doesnt contain the backslash, the incron is doing it like that only.10:53
thikergry i tried all this commands but it is not waht i need , really i need to one command to create folder and file in the same time without using |;&&10:59
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eutheriai was wondering if it was possible to share a scanner over a network11:00
SaberX01what's the name of the folder you want, wehre do you want it, and what's the file name you want.11:00
SaberX01eutheria, pretty sure Samba can handle that.11:01
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thikerfor example folder name f1 and file name aa11:02
eutheriaSaberX01, oh cool i had no idea samba can share scanners11:04
SaberX01thiker, in you home directory: mkdir f1; touch aa.txt11:04
airtonixSaberX01: eutheria, samba isn't the one that shares the scanner11:04
eutheriaairtonix, so what shares a scanner11:05
airtonixSaberX01: eutheria, you need to run saned on a linux machine , which is responsible for sharing it to other linux machines.11:05
SaberX01Ahh it's SANE11:05
SaberX01eutheria, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo11:05
airtonixSaberX01: eutheria, by default gnome provides a scanning program that will connect to any saned exposed scanner : simple-scan i think it's called.11:06
airtonixi just tap supoer then start typing scan though11:06
airtonixsuper*11:06
eutheriacan windows use a sane shared scanner?11:07
airtonixnot sure11:07
airtonixmaybe11:07
SaberX01I suppse that would work if it's attached to a desktop, but what if it's strictly a network scanner, via a server?11:07
airtonixSaberX01: doesn't matter saned can connect to network or usb scanners if i recall correctly11:07
SaberX01eutheria, have a read of the how-too I linked above.11:08
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thikerwhat is the wrong in this command " tar -cvpzf backup.tar.gz --exclude=/backup.tar.gz "?11:09
hitsujiTMOthiker:  tar -cvpzf backup.tar.gz --exclude=/backup.tar.gz .11:10
hitsujiTMOthiker: you forgot to tell it what directory to archive11:10
SaberX01Probably needs a Path11:10
thikeri need full backup system11:11
SaberX01you try to back up or restore?11:11
bekksthen omit /dev /sys /proc and /tmp from your backups too.11:11
cfhowlett!backup|thiker,11:11
ubottuthiker,: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning11:11
SaberX01yeah and all those pesky ./.dotfiles are a pain too ..11:12
ewookbekks: it's insanely fun to look at the logs if you forget to omit 'em ;)11:12
bekksewook: yeah /proc/kmem :P11:13
thikerok thanks all11:13
hitsujiTMOthiker: add --one-file-system11:13
SaberX01Then again, I suppose it depends on how paranoid one is about the restoration as well.11:13
thikerwhat about my previous qution about making directory and file in one command11:14
SaberX01I sent that too you11:14
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hitsujiTMOthiker:  tar -cvpzf /backup.tar.gz --exclude=/backup.tar.gz --one-file-system /11:15
icerootthiker: mkdir -p /path/to/file && touch /path/to/file/filename11:15
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SaberX01thiker, mkdir test-dir; touch ./test-dir/test-file.txt11:15
thikerno i dont want use && or | or ;11:16
icerootthiker: then its not possible with one command using standard gnu tools11:16
SaberX01then use two commands11:16
thikerno my instructor tell us there is a way to do that11:17
grythiker, so how do you not like mkfile then11:17
cescHi! When I plug in a USB drive it is mounted under /media/cesc/usbblabla. Is there a way of having it mounted directly under /media  (saving the "cesc" subdirectory)? Thanks in advance!11:17
icerootthiker: vim /path/to/file/filename    vim is creating that directory11:17
SaberX01mkfile is a SunOS tool11:17
SaberX01fallocate == mkfile in Linux11:17
gryit WORKS ON UBUNTU, if you're not interested in that ask elsewhere11:17
SaberX01where is it at?11:18
gryoh, i apologize, it doesn't appear to work on ubuntu, i was misinformed11:18
SaberX01Indeed11:18
BjizzleHello. I'm trying to use a gtx 780 as my gpu and a 580 as my physx card. When I try to login (if I get a screen that isn't blank) when I log in I get a blank screen. I've tried nvidia-current (304), 319, and 331 drivers.11:19
thikerso?11:19
icerootor just mkdir -p /foo/bar/filename    (everything in unix is a file, also directories :) )11:19
SaberX01gry, maybe your thinking of mktemp -f ..11:19
gryno, in making a nontemporary file11:20
SaberX01I think all the dir's are also files in Linux as well, jsut a directory file, thus the reason for test -d or -f11:21
icerootSaberX01: everything is a file in UNIX, GNU/Linux11:22
thikermkdir -p is for creatin folders11:22
SaberX01pretty sure that's what I just said, or at least that's what I ment to say without all the typo's .. lol11:22
icerootthiker: use mkdir -p /path/to/file && touch /path/to/file/filename  or ask in #bash. i guess we are finished here11:23
icerootthiker: or use vi /path/to/file/filename11:23
SaberX01he dont want a compound command, not && | or ; allowed .. lol11:23
icerootSaberX01: does not matter, he has some solutions, i guess we can skip that topic11:24
BjizzleHello. I'm trying to use a gtx 780 as my gpu and a 580 as my physx card. When I try to login (if I get a screen that isn't blank) when I log in I get a blank screen. I've tried nvidia-current (304), 319, and 331 drivers. I'm on 13.10.11:24
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BluesKajHiyas all11:29
cfhowlett!nomodeset|Bjizzle,11:35
ubottuBjizzle,: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter11:35
BjizzleThanks cfhowlett11:37
cfhowlettBjizzle, that should get you into the system.  configuration beyond that is also beyond my ability to advise.11:38
adashitsujiTMO:  !11:39
BjizzleCfhowlett, for the boot params should I have "ro quiet splash nomodeset $vt_handoff"11:40
SaberX01thats prob good for Boot up to login11:41
cfhowlettBjizzle, I believe that's right11:41
BjizzleWhat about after I login?11:41
SaberX01that's all driver stuff then ..11:41
cfhowlettBjizzle, oh that's when the real fun starts!11:42
SaberX01Im on 12.04 .. so really can't advice much on the desktop portion ~ 13.1011:42
BjizzleHaha, when can I plug my second monitor into the primary gpu? Once I'm in how do I use the second gpu as physx?11:43
BjizzleAnd it doesn't seem to display the desktop11:44
SaberX01I have no Idea, may want to try in the Nvidia channel.11:45
BjizzleDidn't realize they had a channel. :o I guess I should have as everyone has a channel on freenode11:46
SaberX01Bjizzle, actually, I just did a quick search, didn't see one, but may be one around somewhere .. but they probably best info on that issue.11:48
Bjizzle#nvidia11:49
SaberX01There ya go then. I think the newest NV card I have is a 58 series .. rather old now, just no need for any of the newer cards.11:50
win5hithi there! i'd like to stress test my rigs memory with a ubuntu live-cd.(not memtest86)11:51
BjizzleMy friend is letting me borrow his 780 while his motherboard is fried11:52
win5hitmy idea was to create a ramdisk and bench it with bonnie11:52
win5hitbut... bonnie keeps throwing a warning that the size for testing should be double ram size... but... i want to stress test ram ;)11:53
win5hitany idea how to circumvent this warning?11:53
ikoniawin5hit: why would you not use memtest - designed to test ram11:53
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SaberX01There's several mem-test type apps that never make it to the OS stage in boot .. Id' think that's the optimum situation.11:53
win5hitikonia: yes memtest is designed to test ram,but: it's running and not throwing errors(multiple passes). and i'd like to validate a specific behavior: rig freezes if i stress ram.(not completely freezes, gets back after 10 minutes or so... memtest86 doesn't crash, keeps running and stating everything is ok)11:55
ikoniawin5hit you've just validated it - it's running and not throwing errors - multiple passes "validated"11:56
win5hit^^not exactly11:56
icerootjust start eclipse, that is the best stresstest for ram ever :)11:56
ikoniawin5hit: how not exactly ?11:56
win5hitikonia: when i run a ram stress test on windows i can watch rtts going to >10s, machine response is very bad. now i would like to verify the same behavior on linux.... just to be sure it's an operating system independent problem11:57
SaberX01I thought Bonnie was a Disk I/O test suite, didn't think it did memery testing as well.11:57
win5hitikonia: whilst putting 100% cpu load on the rig doesn't affect the latencies11:58
icerootSaberX01: ramdisc11:58
ikoniawin5hit you've just validated it - and it looks like it's an operating system problem as it's not doing it on windows11:58
win5hitikonia: the other way around11:58
ikoniawin5hit: ok, the other way around then11:58
DonkeyHoteii'm at my wit's end. ext4 crapped itself, had to reformat and reinstall, and now fglrx insists on having a Segmentation fault11:59
SaberX01Actually, you really want to crank on a system, MPICH / Linpack Benchmark stuff, that' keeps going until something breaks down.11:59
win5hitikonia: but i still want to see latencies increase when i put load on running linux ;)11:59
ikoniaDonkeyHotei file systems don't "crap themselves" - explain the problem11:59
ikoniawin5hit sounds like you're looking for a probolem thats not there12:00
win5hitwhy?12:00
DonkeyHoteiikonia: [    21.401] Segmentation fault at address (nil)12:00
DonkeyHotei[    21.401] Caught signal 11 (Segmentation fault). Server aborting12:00
win5hiti can't measure ping latencies if i boot directly into memtest86.12:00
ikoniaDonkeyHotei: that's not a file system error12:01
ikoniawin5hit: ping ??? that's network12:01
win5hityes12:01
ikoniawin5hit: what are you talking about stress testing ram with "ping"12:01
win5hitlook, i was talking about round trip times12:01
ikoniawin5hit: you where talking about ram a minute ago12:01
win5hityes12:01
ikonianow you've swapped to ping without a change of scope12:01
DonkeyHoteiikonia: what part of "had to reformat and reinstall" tells you the filesystem still has a problem?12:01
SaberX01Network I/O or  Memory .. I be lost now too :-)12:02
ikoniaDonkeyHotei: good luck getting help with your smart responses, bye12:02
win5hityes. if i put stress on ram, running on windows, the latencies(RTT) increase to >10 s. and i would like to validate the same behavior on linux.12:02
bekksDonkeyHotei: After reformatting, the filesystem changed entirely, because it was rebuilt clean. So it cant have the same errors.12:03
DonkeyHoteibekks: tell that to ikonia12:03
ikoniawin5hit if you stress your machine - round trips will increase as there will be "wait"12:03
bekksDonkeyHotei: I tell it to you. I know ikonia already knows it pretty well.12:03
ikoniaDonkeyHotei your description of the original problem "ext4 crapped itself" is nonsense, I asked you to clarify what it means12:03
win5hityes. but not like this12:03
SaberX01DonkeyHotei, That's not what or why he said what he did.12:03
ikoniaDonkeyHotei: because file systems don't "crap themselves" - so you may have a more serious problem, hence why you are now getting a segfault12:04
win5hitfrom <1ms increase to >10s is not common12:04
DonkeyHoteiikonia: my experience differs12:04
SaberX01win5hit, so, in Win, when you stressign the RAM, your Ping times increase dramatically as well ?12:05
win5hitback to the original question, can i bechmark a ramdisk with bonnie++? (somehow)12:05
win5hitSaberX01: yes, rtts increase when i stress ram under windows. but i can't tell about linux because i wasn't able to put stress on ram12:05
ikoniawin5hit: a ram disk is a file system held in ram - not the same as testing ram12:06
win5hitthats why i'm trying to run bonnie++ on a ramdisk12:06
hitsujiTMO!attitude | DonkeyHotei ikonia is trying to give you sound advice. Normally you don't see multiple unrelated errors. You should be checking first for an underlying common issue12:06
ubottuDonkeyHotei ikonia is trying to give you sound advice. Normally you don't see multiple unrelated errors. You should be checking first for an underlying common issue: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines12:06
win5hiti doesn't matter if its the same as long as it's producing load on the ram12:06
DonkeyHoteii'm here because i can't figure out why fglrx won't start, not because i blew away the filesystem12:06
ikoniawin5hit: it does matter if it's the same12:06
SaberX01win5hit, this may work, jsut ahve to create a ramfs first: http://www.jamescoyle.net/how-to/599-benchmark-disk-io-with-dd-and-bonnie12:06
ikoniadisk IO testing is not the same as testing ram12:07
win5hiti've already created one, but i can't run bonnie on it12:07
SaberX01No, but I dont think you can ramfs test wihtout some level of Disk I/O happening.12:07
win5hitikonia: but if the "Disk" is held in ram entirely... it's putting stress on ram, right? ;)12:07
ikoniamore so when you're running from a livecd - that is already HELD IN RAM !!12:07
ikoniawin5hit: wrong12:08
ikoniawin5hit: more so from a livecd12:08
ikoniaI'm off12:08
win5hitikonia: I'm sorry, i can see you are annoied, it's not my attitude. i don't want to get acutal write speed values or smth. i just want to put stress on ram12:09
bekkswin5hit: then run a memtest.12:09
DonkeyHoteiwin5hit: a time-tested way to put stress on ram is to recompile the kernel in a loop12:10
hitsujiTMOwin5hit: if you "stress test" with ramfs you'll only end up locking up the kernel. As ramfs will eat everything it can can your kernel will lock up once you run out of ram12:10
SaberX01Memtest loads the ram more than any ramfs or liveCD ever would, it's designed for max utilization.12:10
ikoniabekks: honeslty...just walk away, he wants to measure ping round trips, while putting load on the ram - using a file system i/o loader ?????12:10
win5hitok. i've already let memtest86 run several passes. i didn't get errors. but i can't tell if latencies increased because if i boot into memtest86 i've got no nics / ips to ping12:11
bekksikonia: yeah, thats the best thing to do - walking away. I dont see the reason for his I/O stuff in RAM until now, too.12:11
ikoniabekks it's just stupid giving a false data result driven test,12:11
win5hithitsujiTMO: i've chosen tmpfs and set the size to 50% ram size12:11
bekksikonia: yeah.12:11
DonkeyHoteiwin5hit: memtest86 passes bad ram all the time12:12
hitsujiTMOwin5hit: tmpfs utilises swap where possible. again will not do what you want12:12
bekksDonkeyHotei: memtest86 tests all the ram, it doesnt omit "bad" ram.12:12
gordonjcp"bad RAM" doesn't really exist any more12:13
gordonjcpit either works, or it doesn't12:13
DonkeyHoteibekks: let me rephrase that. it tests ram and the tests pass even when the ram has failed12:13
gordonjcpif the RAM is "bad" the machine generally won't even start POST12:13
gordonjcpDonkeyHotei: rubbish12:13
win5hitI've read the german wiki page. and there is written that i will keep data in memory as long as you are not going low on memory. thats why i only picked 50% of ram size12:13
bekksDonkeyHotei: Of course the tests pass, but you get the error messages what exactly couldnt be teste successfully.12:13
gordonjcpwin5hit: that won't be enough to allow the system to hibernate, if you care about that12:14
Eagleman7I am getting the following error: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!12:14
win5hitgordonjcp: i don't care about that12:14
gordonjcpwin5hit: why bother with swap then?12:14
Eagleman7I am getting the following error: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!12:14
hitsujiTMOwin5hit, then you're not "stressing" the ram and invalidates your test12:14
ikoniaEagleman7 you've said that...12:15
Eagleman7Anything i can do to authenticate them?12:15
ikoniahitsujiTMO the whole test is wrong - but he doesn't seem to want to accept it12:15
win5hitgordonjcp: because i didn't find a flag to set a specific size for ramfs12:15
ikoniaEagleman7 which packages are they from which repo12:15
demon^eyewhat program should i use to open a chain RAR`s files?12:15
gordonjcpdemon^eye: unrar12:16
hitsujiTMOEagleman7: can you pastebin the output of: sudo apt-get update12:16
gordonjcpwin5hit: are you using ramfs?12:16
allstarsnorks2Hi guys12:16
demon^eyewinrar?12:16
demon^eyei mean winrar for linux?12:16
gordonjcpdemon^eye: unrar - read it carefully12:16
allstarsnorks2I am having a problem install gdm in my install of Ubuntu Server 13.10.12:16
gordonjcpallstarsnorks2: why are you installing gdm on a server?12:17
demon^eyegordonjcp, : u mean Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version) ?12:18
win5hitgordonjcp: nope, right now i'm using tmpfs (because i didn't find a way to limit size of ramfs)12:18
demon^eyegordonjcp, : i taking it from Ubuntu software center12:18
Eagleman7ikonia, yeh had some problems with my ZNC: http://lpaste.net/851146463755894784012:18
gordonjcpdemon^eye: there should be a program called "unrar" in there.  I don't know what "u" is.12:19
DonkeyHoteidemon^eye: just open the file and it should work, nothing special needed12:19
ikoniaEagleman7: your plex repo is pointing at the wrong release, which isn't a good start12:19
Eagleman7Seemed like running apt-get update fixed the authenticate issue12:19
demon^eyegordonjcp, : there isnt...12:19
spud__I've my "video" directory, months ago I deleted from there some videos, and now I wish to try to recover that (to check if maybe they still exists), is there a way to do a "ls" from a directory to see files that in the past was there?12:20
demon^eyeDonkeyHotei, : open with what ? "file roller" ?12:20
gordonjcpdemon^eye: "apt-cache search unrar"12:20
DonkeyHoteidemon^eye: yes12:20
gordonjcpdemon^eye: what do you see?12:20
demon^eyeDonkeyHotei,  : 10x so i am set ... hate terminal commands ;)12:20
allstarsnorks2_like I said, I was installing GNOME on my install of Ubuntu Server.12:21
demon^eyegordonjcp, : sec will tell ya12:21
DonkeyHoteiallstarsnorks2_: you never got to say why12:21
sandhuhi sir ,,, how to recover deleted photos from 10.10 ubuntu pl tell me ,,,i m in big trouble12:22
gordonjcpsandhu: photorec, testdisk12:22
sandhuhow to download it12:22
demon^eyegordonjcp,  : i see dead ppl :D kidding i see that "unrar - Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)" and "unrar-free - Unarchiver for .rar files" and "unp - unpack (almost) everything with one comman "12:22
DonkeyHoteisandhu: boot with a live cd, use photorec12:23
SaberX01spud__,  not going to be an easy task.12:23
hitsujiTMOsandhu: boot a 12.04 live cd12:23
SaberX01!undelete | spud__12:23
ubottuspud__: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel12:23
gordonjcpdemon^eye: pick one, probably unrar12:23
sandhui m not having it12:23
demon^eyegordonjcp,  : i am using ubuntu 12 LTS default12:23
demon^eyegordonjcp,  :10x , any software to grab youtube vids and convert them inti mp4?12:24
demon^eyeinto12:24
demon^eyesry but i am new :)12:24
hitsujiTMOsandhu: you need to be using a supported version on ubuntu to be able to install any recovery tools. so you should boot 12.04 live iso12:24
sandhusir  i m nt having boot cd12:24
DonkeyHoteidemon^eye: i like "youtube hd suite" for that. search for it on the web12:25
demon^eyeBTW : i am fighting my ass up to stick to linux (ubuntu ) and dont fall back to windows12:25
demon^eyeDonkeyHotei, : many 10x also much respect :)12:25
demon^eyeDonkeyHotei, : is it free?12:25
hitsujiTMOdemon^eye: youtube-dl to download youtube vids. ffmpeg or avconc to convert12:26
DonkeyHoteijust download it12:26
sandhuactually sir i m using ubuntu n windows 7 on same pc ,,,is it possible to recover it12:26
bekkssandhu: dualbooting or wubi?12:26
thom_rdemon eye, I use All Video Downloader12:26
sandhuu r not getting it ,,,,,12:27
bekkssandhu: Unless you answer it, no.12:27
SaberX01Indeed12:27
demon^eyehitsujiTMO, : all software i grab from ubuntu software center?12:27
sandhui have lost all my photos on  ubuntu 10.10,,,,i m asking how to recover it12:28
thom_rdemon^eye: use All Video Downloader.12:28
DonkeyHoteii answered what i was asked, and i got shoved aside12:28
hitsujiTMOdemon^eye: all commandline software from ubuntu software centre12:28
SaberX01demon^eye, have a look at file-roller, I think that's a defautl install on UB and it has like 10 formats, rar being one of them.12:28
bekkssandhu: Use a 12.04 livecd.12:28
bekkssandhu: It has been said multiple times.12:28
cfhowlett!recover|sandhu,12:28
ubottusandhu,: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel12:28
demon^eyeSaberX01, : noted 10x :)12:28
demon^eyehitsujiTMO,  : i dont see any "avconc" on ubuntu software center...12:29
hitsujiTMOdemon^eye: youtube-dl will also most likely grab an mp4. it automatically pulls the best quality12:30
hitsujiTMOdemon^eye: libav-tools i think it is. I prefer ffmpeg, but thats deprecated on ubuntu12:30
thom_rdemon^eye: All Video Downloader will convert youtube videos to MP4 after you download it12:31
sandhufrom where to get 12.04 livecd12:31
bekkssandhu: from www.ubuntu.com12:31
thom_randgu: Ubuntu.com12:31
thom_rsandhu: ubuntu.com12:31
demon^eyethom_r, : any example for software name?12:32
SaberX01yeah, libav-tools provides avconc . dont see ti as a stand alone though.12:32
demon^eyehitsujiTMO,  : where can i d.l youtube-dl from ?12:32
thom_rdemon^eye: All Video Downloader is the name of the program12:32
bekks!info youtube-dl12:32
DonkeyHoteinow, anyone have any idea what i missed installing that fglrx needs to not segfault?12:32
ubottuyoutube-dl (source: youtube-dl): downloader of videos from YouTube and other sites. In component universe, is extra. Version 2013.08.29-1 (saucy), package size 156 kB, installed size 613 kB12:33
hitsujiTMOdemon^eye: sudo apt-get installl youtube-dl12:33
bekksdemon^eye: from the official repos.12:33
demon^eyethom_r,  : i can use script from user script also ... within chrome , but i prefer a software12:33
hitsujiTMOdemon^eye: youtube-dl is rediculously simple you use as well as being rediculously reliable12:33
win5hitYES :) i finally ended up downloading a packet called stress, which is able to stress ram :) and: i can watch the same problem like running windows. so it's an operating system independet problem. mission accomplished. thanks12:34
thom_rdemon^eye: open the software center and search for All Video Downloader12:34
demon^eyehitsujiTMO,  : sudo apt-get installl youtube-dl doesnt work ...12:34
thom_rthat is exactly what you are looking for12:34
hitsujiTMOdemon^eye: sudo apt-get install youtube-dl12:34
hitsujiTMOdemom: soo for the extra l12:34
hitsujiTMOsorry*12:34
demon^eyethom_r, : already do that , 2 many , just want to get 1 which most ppl use12:34
thom_rhuh12:35
thom_rwho cares what most people use, if it works it works12:35
* DonkeyHotei drops a llama12:35
demon^eyethom_r, : what most use is working right ? that my idea :D12:35
SaberX01there's a Filter, for most popular or something like that in SW Center.12:35
thom_rif you're worried about what most people use then switch back to Windows12:35
cfhowlettdemon^eye, statistically speaking, most people are idiots ...12:36
demon^eyeLOL12:36
bekkscfhowlett: millions of flies cant be wrong... ;)12:36
ewookthom_r: That's really not a good advice.12:36
cfhowlettdemon^eye, see thom_r's advice12:36
SaberX01cfhowlett, thats too fummy :-)12:36
DonkeyHoteicfhowlett: i feel like an idiot for asking for help in this channel12:36
demon^eyethom_r, : i mean what most ppl uses in linux... so it must working that it12:36
thom_rinstall All Video Downloader from the software center12:37
SaberX01Best and Most Popular not always same thing either.12:37
cfhowlettDonkeyHotei, I hope I've never given you cause to feel that way.  This is a LEARNING channel, so I welcome questions12:37
thom_rit does exactly what you want12:37
demon^eyeDonkeyHotei,  : idiot in one area doesnt make a human idiot12:37
DonkeyHoteidemon^eye: we all have our strengths and weaknesses12:38
demon^eyeanyhow ... is there any partition bacup for linux?12:38
ewookdemon^eye: several.12:38
ewook!dd12:38
demon^eyeDonkeyHotei,  : yes , linux is only a minor side of life isnit? :)12:38
demon^eyeewook, : can u point some?12:38
ewookdemon^eye: dd is one option.12:39
hitsujiTMOdemon^eye: dd12:39
demon^eyedd ...12:39
DonkeyHoteiwell, at this moment, linux is what's giving me trouble in life12:39
ewookdemon^eye: there's plenty of live cd's that makes it easy. clonezilla should be one.12:39
hitsujiTMOdemon^eye: dd -> disk destroyer.       allows you to raw read a block device and write it to a file12:39
demon^eyeDonkeyHotei,  : how come?12:39
k1l_demon^eye: if you ask for a unspecific one, dont blame others if you dont like the answer. make specific questions, that will lead to better answers12:39
demon^eyewhere can i d.l dd ?12:39
DonkeyHoteidd is a preinstalled command12:40
ewookdemon^eye: normally you already have it.12:40
demon^eyehaa12:40
k1l_demon^eye: dd is already included in ubuntu. just see "man dd" for the manual page12:40
ewookdemon^eye: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_%28Unix%2912:40
SaberX01dd is part of core-utils12:40
demon^eyeic ... a command line software12:41
hitsujiTMOdemon^eye: you can also pipe dd to gzip if you want a compressed image of the drive12:41
demon^eyeK1l : i like everybody reply , i am not in a position to decide what good or bad atm... :)12:42
demon^eyehitsujiTMO,  : 10x... noted (when i be more advanced :D )12:43
ewookdemon^eye: most useful things are commandline tools.12:43
ewookdemon^eye: and sometimes they get a graphic wrapper.12:43
demon^eyeic ...12:44
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ewookdemon^eye: look up clonezilla's live cd if you wanna look at something graphical.12:44
demon^eyei dont mind command line but for backup/restore hd... its look little dangerous for newbie like me12:44
demon^eye....clonezilla12:45
ewookdemon^eye: I think that's the name of it. there are several around :).12:45
hitsujiTMOdemon^eye: it unfortunately can be. clonezilla is a popular alternative12:45
demon^eyeewook, : where can i d/l it from?12:45
ewookdemon^eye: www.clonezilla.org :)12:46
demon^eyeewook,  : gotya :D12:46
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hitsujiTMOdemon^eye: ubuntu sofware centre. sudo apt-get install clonezilla12:46
ewookhitsujiTMO: not really recommended if he wants the livecd12:46
hitsujiTMOewook: you can install stuff on the ubuntu live cd too12:47
ewookhitsujiTMO: Thus, doing backups of full partitions should be done while the system is not alive.12:47
Guest49724Hello all, I am wondering if it is possible to move the unity bar to the bottom of the screen on 64 bit Ubuntu 13.1012:47
demon^eyehitsujiTMO, : why idnot see clonezilla in ubucenter threw the "search" in the graphic way?12:47
SaberX01!backup | demon^eye, some other alternatives12:47
ubottudemon^eye, some other alternatives: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning12:47
ewookhitsujiTMO: sure, but that means you have to do more stuff, than simply download an is.12:47
ewookSaberX01: nice ;)12:48
hitsujiTMOdemon^eye: not use. i always install from commandline12:48
ewookhitsujiTMO: an iso even.12:48
demon^eyemany 10x pips i wont ask at backup / restore atm its more advanced action than i am now..12:48
hitsujiTMOewook: but he already has an iso - the ubuntu one. just needs to install clonzezilla :P12:49
demon^eyereally respect your help... i will be back to "bother" you :)12:49
bekksdemon^eye: then start reading the articles linked :)12:49
ewookhitsujiTMO: oh? Missed that part. sorry :)12:49
demon^eyebekks,  : i will ... i just ask some general question , just to know where did i land :D12:49
ewookdemon^eye: that is what this channel is for ;)12:49
demon^eyenot easy to switch from win to that12:50
hitsujiTMOewook: how else could he have installed ubuntu?12:50
ewookhitsujiTMO: I thought he already had. :)12:50
demon^eyeewook,  : yep ..! but i dont like to bother ppl with RTFM question...12:50
hitsujiTMOewook: yes. but he still has the iso :p12:50
ewookdemon^eye: hah, well - that's why there's a bot in here prepped with FAQ/commonly asked questions :).12:51
SaberX01could have been a Net / PXE install .. tho unlikely :-)12:51
ewookhitsujiTMO: mjees. that that means starting to install something, that he needs to reinstall the second time he loads up the iso :)12:51
ewookSaberX01: I love my pxe ;)12:51
demon^eyeewook, : how do i axx the boot... to see some :D12:52
demon^eyeall ic is links in the topic12:52
ewookdemon^eye: Sorry, what boot?12:52
SaberX01think he means bot12:53
ewookoh!12:53
SaberX01hows does he as ubottu12:53
SaberX01*ask12:53
demon^eyeBOT  < my mistake12:53
ewookSaberX01: would you mind introducing him to ubottu? :)12:53
win5hitthanks for your help, have a nice day!12:53
ewookdemon^eye: no worries :).12:53
demon^eyegot some e book on linux (in the basement :D ) time to pull up the big canon :D12:54
demon^eyebe back12:54
DonkeyHoteithe canonical canon12:55
SaberX01ewook, I a noob with ubottu ..12:55
ewookSaberX01: I keep forgetting everything.. and they have changed his triggers over the years as well :p.12:55
SaberX01!ubottu | demon^eye12:56
ubottudemon^eye: Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots12:56
ewookWeey. Awesome! Better read up myself :p.12:56
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SaberX01In the old days of Linux 1.x.x kernel days, you had to read for days to do anything, now, you do anything in minutes, and nobody ever read about things it seems.12:59
fpghost84Hi, I seem to be getting a number of ACPI errors in my syslog, and am trying to determine if they are anything to worry about or not. For example:  "ACPI Error: Gpe0Block - 32-bit FADT register is too long (32 bytes, 256 bits) to convert to GAS struct - 255 bits max, truncating (20121018/tbfadt-201)"12:59
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k1l_!away > exdis13:00
ubottuexdis, please see my private message13:00
SaberX01I think anyone wanting to really use Linux, should do the LFS project at least once through just to leant about things you never would otherwise.13:00
ewookAgreed :).13:01
DonkeyHoteimost people aren't into learning13:01
ewookAgreed as well :(13:01
k1l_SaberX01: i think we are past that days, where you needed to be a "linux guru" to use linux. its a desktop OS now, for desktops users13:01
bekksfpghost84: Looks like a broken BIOS and/or a broken ACPI DSDT table. The only chances are updating your BIOS and/or building a custom DSDT table (which can be complicated and very time consuming).13:02
SaberX01fpghost84, May want to looky here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-lts-raring/+bug/126203313:02
ewookk1l_: Nah, it can be - but still, if you really wanna use something - not just gnu/linux, you have to roll up your sleves at some point.13:02
ubottuUbuntu bug 1262033 in linux-lts-raring (Ubuntu) "[Dell Inspiron 3537] Multiple CRITICAL/HIGH failures found in fwts report" [Undecided,New]13:02
SaberX01k1l_, I know, it's a point and click thing now days, but folks are missing so much good stuff ..13:03
elimik31My brother and I are visiting our parents and somehow my brother with his Ubuntu laptop can't get into the wifi of my parents even though I with my debian Laptop can. At home and university he had no problems getting into the wifi. He has a Lenovo Thinkpad Edge E535. Using a live CD/USB he actually does manage to get into the wifi, but reinstalling Ubuntu didn't change anything. He still can't get into it. What might the problem be?13:03
yassine23hi13:03
ikoniaelimik31 dependson the error / situation13:03
elimik31My brother and I are visiting our parents and somehow my brother with his Ubuntu laptop can't get into the wifi of my parents even though I with my debian Laptop can. At home and university he had no problems getting into the wifi. He has a Lenovo Thinkpad Edge E535. Using a live CD/USB he actually does manage to get into the wifi, but reinstalling Ubuntu didn't change anything. He still can't get into it. What might the problem be?13:04
yassine23i an new in ric chat13:04
ikoniaelimik31: I've just responded to you - you don't need to repeat the whole question again13:04
hitsujiTMOelimik31: not sure the best course of action to test. but i'd put my money on network manager being the cause13:04
ObrienDaveelimik31, first two things to check, is the laptop wi-fi on? is the security key entered properly?13:04
fpghost84thanks bekks and SaberX01. I have updated the BIOS to the latest one already (1.53 from Lenovo website for Thinkpad S540). How severe is this I wonder? What problems might it lead to? I know nothing about custom DSDT tables13:05
ewookhitsujiTMO: since the livecd does not come with the latest versions but his laptop might have it, I'd bet my money on what hitsujiTMO said.13:05
DonkeyHoteistill boggles my mind that network manager connections cannot be managed without a gui13:06
SaberX01fpghost84, ditto, just know it's kernel thing, that's about it, seems to be hitting several Dell's but that's all I can really get from it.13:06
ikoniathey can be managed without a gui13:06
DonkeyHoteiikonia: with what?13:07
ikoniathere is the network-manager app - or the interfaces file directly, or the ifconfig/ip/iwconfig commands13:07
JaredForTheWinWait..I thought there was also a QuakeNet #ubuntu?13:07
hitsujiTMODonkeyHotei: nmcli13:07
DonkeyHoteithe network manager app requires a gui13:07
ikoniaDonkeyHotei no it doesn't13:07
ikoniaDonkeyHotei: that is the network-manager application, the gnome-network-manager is the gui13:07
DonkeyHoteihitsujiTMO: nmcli cannot create wifi connections13:07
fpghost84SaverX01: I also get the "ACPI Error: [\_SB_.PCI0.GFX0.DD02._BCL] Namespace lookup failure, AE_NOT_FOUND (20121018/psargs-359)" error like on the Dell bug report too, interesting....13:07
bekksDonkeyHotei: It doesnt. It provides a command line interface.13:08
bekksDonkeyHotei: It can.13:08
DonkeyHoteiikonia: by gui i mean xorg13:08
elimik31I haven't managed to mention that he can see other wifi networks, but just can't "see" this one...13:08
ikoniaDonkeyHotei: it doesn't need xorg13:08
ikoniaDonkeyHotei: I think you need to do a bit of catch up reading13:08
DonkeyHoteii read the whole manpage and tried nmcli. the manpage even says specifically nmcli cannot connect to wifi13:09
ikoniaDonkeyHotei: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/man1/nmcli.1.html13:10
bekksDonkeyHotei: Read this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/8322/use-network-manager-to-connect-to-a-wifi-access-point-on-the-command-line13:10
elmosancheshi everybody. I've started using Ranger. can somebody tell me how to change default text editor?13:11
JaredForTheWinIs Ranger a operating system, or default text editor?13:11
MonkeyDust!info ranger13:12
ubotturanger (source: ranger): File manager with an ncurses frontend written in Python. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.6.0-1 (saucy), package size 130 kB, installed size 543 kB13:12
DonkeyHoteiikonia: the manpage on precise is different, and i quote:13:12
hitsujiTMOelimik31: as in its doesn't show up in the scan?13:12
ikoniaDonkeyHotei don't need a quote - I don't doubt you13:12
elmosanches!info ranger13:12
DonkeyHoteiHowever, if a connection13:12
DonkeyHotei           requires a secret to activate and if that secret is not stored at13:12
DonkeyHotei           the system level, nmcli will not be able to activate it; it is13:12
DonkeyHotei           currently unable to supply the needed secrets to NetworkManager.13:12
ikoniaDonkeyHotei: however that is not the case, and there is also the interfaces file, or the ifconfig/ip/iwconfig commadns that can do it13:12
SaberX01elmosanches, sudo update-alternatives --config editor13:12
ikoniaDonkeyHotei: basically no need for a gui,13:12
JaredForTheWinelmosanches: honestly just use Nautilus, it comes with Ubuntu and is just good13:13
elmosanchesSaberX01: first thing I did. no result13:13
hitsujiTMOelimik31: from his machine can you get us the result of: lspci13:13
elmosanchesJaredForTheWin: mmmm  niah13:14
hitsujiTMOelimik31: sorry, from his machine can you get us the result of: lspci -nn13:14
elimik31and, at least as he tells me, using the "connect with a hidden network" didn't help as well13:14
freshminthey, can i set a default upload rate for my ssh server? im doing sftp from a windows machine and file transfer is kind of slow13:14
SaberX01elmosanches, Interesting, plan be, right click a file, properties, open-with (select or Add)13:14
DonkeyHoteiifconfig/ip/iwconfig cannot create a Network Manager connection13:14
SaberX01Plan-B13:14
XATRIXHow can i see the startup services order ?13:14
XATRIXIs there any visual ?13:15
pcpcpcHi there. I am trying to get my crypted data, because i cannot pass the login screen.13:15
pcpcpcI already did ecryptfs-recover-private, and now there is: "Private data mounted read-only at /tmp/ecryptfs. ...."13:15
pcpcpcWhat can i do now with this data?13:15
hitsujiTMOXATRIX: thats dependant on the type of service13:16
SaberX01XATRIX,  initctl list  .. but Im not 100% is that's start order.13:16
elmosanchesSaberX01: what you talkin about?13:16
SaberX01elmosanches, Plan-B for changing editors ..13:17
XATRIXSaberX01: i think my services start order is different on 2 nodes, so my node2 doesn't send APRs when it get's back online and annouce itself to the cluster13:17
SaberX01elmosanches, Plan-C .. install / use dconf-editor and change it there.13:18
elmosanchesSaberX01: global editor setting have no impact on what ranger picks up13:18
SaberX01elmosanches, It's under favorites, but OK, I give up.13:19
DonkeyHoteianyone around who can help with fglrx?13:19
k1l_!details |  DonkeyHotei13:19
ubottuDonkeyHotei: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."13:19
pcpcpcHi there. I am trying to get my crypted data, because i cannot pass the login screen.13:20
pcpcpcI already did ecryptfs-recover-private, and now there is: "Private data mounted read-only at /tmp/ecryptfs. ...."13:20
pcpcpcHow can I get through to my data or copy it?13:20
JaredForTheWinpcpcpc: Do you remember if the crypted data was copyable?13:21
pcpcpcno i dont know, its the whole home data13:21
hitsujiTMOXATRIX: you have 2 types of serive init processes running. sysv and upstart. sysv uses a sequence number, upstart has a more dynamic event driven system13:21
XATRIXhitsujiTMO: Seems like i have systemd13:22
DonkeyHoteik1l_: I have a problem with xorg aborting with signal 11. I'm running Ubuntu version 12.04.3 LTS. When I try to start X, it aborts. I get the following output: (pastebin forthcoming) but I expected X not to crash13:22
XATRIXI'm using Ubuntu-server 13.1013:22
gordonjcpXATRIX: every time you pop up in the channel I want to play Quake13:22
k1l_DonkeyHotei: how are you tryiing to start x? start the lightdm and see what error it brings13:22
hitsujiTMOXATRIX: no, no you don't13:22
XATRIXgordonjcp: go ahead13:23
DonkeyHoteik1l_: lightdm not installed, using xinit13:23
pcpcpcJaredForTheWin: no i dont know, its the whole home data13:23
k1l_DonkeyHotei: :/13:23
SaberX01xinit .. why ?13:23
DonkeyHoteiSaberX01: it's a headless machine13:23
k1l_DonkeyHotei: that are  some important details13:24
SaberX01Im on a headless machine now .. I still dont understand why xinit13:24
DonkeyHoteithe machine worked fine before i had to reinstall, xinit and all13:24
SaberX01DonkeyHotei, why would I want a X-System init for a headless server?13:25
DonkeyHoteiSaberX01: X has to be running for gpgpu with fglrx13:25
SaberX01DonkeyHotei, is this like a VM server or something, if no monitor, why would I care about fglrx ?13:26
JaredForTheWinpcpcpc: if you remember the decryption key or password to decrypt the files, good. set up a Live USB or Live CD, boot from that, press Try Ubuntu, get to your files13:26
DonkeyHoteiSaberX01: X has to be running for gpgpu with fglrx13:26
elimik31this is the output of the "lscpi -nn" command: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6639579/13:27
SaberX01DonkeyHotei, New one on me, I use init.d and upstart ..13:27
Mistress_Artemishi i want to find a bondage channel, can anyone help me?13:27
SaberX01No13:27
MonkeyDust!alis | Mistress_Artemis13:28
ubottuMistress_Artemis: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*13:28
DonkeyHoteiSaberX01: i'm starting xinit from init.d13:28
JaredForTheWinHoly crap.13:28
SaberX01On a headless server .. ok13:28
JaredForTheWinI did a Alis List for ubuntu...13:28
JaredForTheWinTHE CHANNELS!13:29
aleksejs_Hi, I have a problem with skype on xubuntu. When I try to log in it shows "you are already loggen in on this computer". But there's no any skype instance in process list. I've tried to delete ~/.Skype/shared.*, didn't help13:29
aleksejs_Any ideas?13:30
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cfhowlettaleksejs_, I'd suggest sudo apt-get purge skype then do a reinstall13:30
JaredForTheWinaleksejs_: I think there's a Xubuntu channel, go ask there13:30
gordonjcpaleksejs_: aha, are the permissions correct for .Skype?13:31
cfhowlettaleksejs_, stay with us, this is a common problem13:31
gordonjcpaleksejs_: also try "mv .Skype/ .Skype-old"13:31
hitsujiTMOelimik31: can you also give the output of: lspci -knn13:31
gordonjcpskype is horrible and has rubbish error messages13:31
gordonjcpI don't know why people use it13:31
kai__370hi all. When i put "console log" in my  upstart script. Will also be output of processes that have been launched by my service be logged? Thanks!13:31
DonkeyHoteigordonjcp: because there STILL isn't any free equivalent13:32
ewookDonkeyHotei: there's not?13:32
ewookDonkeyHotei: really? :)13:32
JaredForTheWindonkeyhotei: there is a free equivalent. Google+ Hangouts and all the video chat stuff Google made.13:33
DonkeyHoteiclosest is jitsi, and it's not very usable13:33
MonkeyDustbecause it's the mainstream and 98% of the computer users know only what's mainstream13:33
SaberX01gordonjcp, cuz its a cheap phone .. but I agree, think it's rubbish too.13:33
DonkeyHoteiGoogle+ is non-free13:33
ewookDonkeyHotei: but that is still on skype/msn network, no?13:33
MonkeyDustbut it's google13:33
gordonjcpDonkeyHotei: why do people use it at all, leaving free and non-free out?13:33
JaredForTheWinYes it is, donkey13:33
gordonjcpI don't get the point of it13:33
pcpcpcJaredForTheWin: i switched my pw with passwd and then i couldnt get through the login screen anymore, but new pw was correct... - i raed that but i do not have my old pw http://askubuntu.com/a/280186....... i mean "ecryptfs-recover-private" says the data is mounted read-only at tmp - isnt this usefull or isnt it possible to get it from there?13:33
aleksejs_ok, after deleting ~/.Skype I could log in13:33
thikerhow to install epel on ubuntu?13:34
DonkeyHoteigordonjcp: because it works13:34
gordonjcpSaberX01: phones are cheap phones, why not just use a phone?13:34
MonkeyDustthiker  what's epel?13:34
trevorjthiker: epel is for rpm based distros13:34
hitsujiTMODonkeyHotei: then go write your own. its really easy http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/webrtc/basics/13:34
JaredForTheWinnext time just use google+ hangouts, they are free13:34
gordonjcpDonkeyHotei: why not just use a phone?13:34
MonkeyDustor go outside and meet actual people13:35
LjLgordonjcp: uh, i'm not really sure why you're under the impression phone calls (not to mention video calls) are cheap...13:35
gordonjcpLjL: they're free, not cheap13:35
LjLgordonjcp: uhm no?13:35
gordonjcpokay, if I call internationally it's like 6p a minute13:35
DonkeyHoteihow do you get video on your phone? skype.13:35
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trevorjDonkeyHotei: hangouts13:35
gordonjcpI don't really care about video13:36
LjLgordonjcp: i pay more than 6p a minute to call locally.13:36
SaberX01gordonjcp, I dont know, I dont own or use either one, no cell, voip, skypy nadda .. no interest in them at all.13:36
LjLgordonjcp: so maybe other people are in different situations from you, and that's why they use whatever they use13:36
aleksejs_gordonjcp, I know that skype is a crap, but I'm using it because of several reasons, one of them is work13:36
JaredForTheWinhow do you get video on your iPhone?13:36
JaredForTheWinFaceTime.13:36
gordonjcpSaberX01: so how do you phone out for pizza? ;-)13:36
SaberX01I dont :-)13:36
gordonjcpLjL: wth, where are you?13:36
JaredForTheWinoh wait you all dropped your iPhones in the water13:36
trevorjJaredForTheWin: or hangouts =P13:36
LjLgordonjcp: i'm in italy13:36
pcpcpcJaredForTheWin: so i dont have the login passphrase to decrypt because its awaiting the old one, the mount passphrase is empty so is correct13:36
gordonjcpLjL: hm, expensive phones there then?13:37
trevorjcross platform > single platform restrictions13:37
SaberX01gordonjcp, Im almost 30 miles from the nearest town, they'd be pissed if I ahd them deliver up the mountain here.. LOL13:37
gordonjcpLjL: I've only had a mobile for a good few years13:37
aleksejs_and Google services are not free, they are free of charge13:37
gordonjcpSaberX01: and you don't have a phone at all?13:37
SaberX01Nope13:37
gordonjcpLjL: stopped bothering with a landline years ago13:37
SaberX01I have a Sat Phone fer like emergencys' but, not used it in 5 yrs.13:38
elimik31the output of "lscpi -knn": http://paste.ubuntu.com/6639627/13:38
LjLgordonjcp, we've only recently-ish even started having "flatrate" plans for landlines, instead of paying by the minute for local and long-distance calls separately. on cellphones, it's worse, although we also have flatrates on them now, which can be cheapish, but it does depend on how much a person calls (i don't really call very much at all, so it's actually alright for me). but, most of my actual friends are online and located abroad anyway13:38
JaredForTheWinpcpcpc: first off, we know what your password is, good job,mate. second off, you are starting to waste my time.13:39
cfhowlett!ot13:39
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!13:39
SaberX01Where did that EPEL question go, I missed that one, isn't that like CentOS / RH stuff?13:40
JaredForTheWinSaberX01, GordonJCP, LjL, it sounds like you may want to head on over to ubuntu-offtopic13:40
SaberX01Im already logged in there ..13:40
hitsujiTMOelimik31: looks like drivers not loaded. please try: printf "blacklist b43\nblacklist wl\n" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf13:41
JaredForTheWin!guidelines13:42
ubottuThe guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines13:42
SaberX01Im aware of them thanks.13:42
JaredForTheWinmaybe later13:42
JaredForTheWinI only bet you guys are going to lol at this..13:44
ObrienDave!ot13:44
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!13:44
LjLuh13:45
DonkeyHoteihere is my backtrace: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=3HXFfG1F13:50
hellooodoes anyone know how to switch the units displayed in system monitor under "network history" to be based on bits instead of bytes13:53
kaimast/msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER kaimast slmruvxmgnds13:54
hellooohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-monitor/+bug/366235 suggests that there's a fix for that already13:54
ubottuUbuntu bug 366235 in gnome-system-monitor (Ubuntu) "system monitor uses incorrect network speed (throughput) units" [Low,Fix released]13:54
helloooyep but I can't find a setting for it13:55
ObrienDaveubottu13:55
ObrienDaveis a bot13:55
helloooah I see13:55
blekHello all. :)13:57
PatrickDickeyWould not having a modem create a problem where my networking only configures successfully if I boot into Recovery mode?13:57
PatrickDickeyHi blek. How's it going?13:57
blekI am looking for someone that interested in translating Ubunchu, that renowned Ubuntu manga few years back then. Right now, we are lacking on manpower. :)13:58
hellooook I found it13:58
blekPatrickDickey fine day here, thanks. :)13:58
* PatrickDickey never heard of ubunchu. Got a link?13:58
blekPatrickDickey http://divajutta.com/doctormo/ubunchu/c8.html14:00
hitsujiTMOhellooo: system monitor -> preferences -> bits14:00
hellooohitsujiTMO: yep i found it14:00
RiotingPacifistIs there a GUI polkit editor yet?14:00
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Guest9298Hello guys!!!14:01
MonkeyDustblek  it's not really ontopic, but start here https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/ubunchu-translators14:01
Guest9298i wuold need a expert on graphic card drivers14:01
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Guest9298nvidia in specific14:01
MonkeyDustGuest9298  ask here and wait, maybe someone can help14:02
Guest9298anyone know where i can go or who i can speak with?14:02
blekMonkeyDust  I am also joined the googlegroups team, but the progress is very slow and it has been two years already. Like I said, the team is lacking on manpower.14:03
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PatrickDickey!nvidia | oldman14:03
ubottuoldman: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto14:03
PatrickDickeyThat will get you started, at least oldman.14:03
MonkeyDustblek  and it's not supported here14:03
blekMonkeyDust care to explain more? I don't really get it. Sorry, English itself isn't my primary language.14:05
oldmangot a bit of a problem with it.. i have done everything. i wuuold like like a list to do and i could write what happens.... this is the fifth time i install ubuntu on this computer i have had it a week. and i really did every single step to step i found on google and ask ubuntu'14:05
oldmanhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/395854/ubuntu-problems-in-12-04-and-13-10-on-the-sony-vaio-fit14:06
KamZouHi, i'm on ubuntu 13.10 (64bits) i can't install wine (wine, wine1.7 wine amd64 .....) via apt-get install. I get the following problem : " wine : Depends: wine1.6 but it is not going to be installed" any idea please ?14:06
hitsujiTMOoldman: start off by telling us what gpu you have14:07
ezra-sKamzou, are you using a ppa?14:07
oldman NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 735M 2 Gt14:08
hitsujiTMOoldman: and what nvidia driver did you install?14:08
ObrienDaveKamZou, sudo apt-get install wine1.614:09
ObrienDaveKamZou,then sudo apt-get install wine1.714:09
OerHeks!info wine saucy14:09
ubottuwine (source: wine1.4): Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (meta-package). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.4.1-0ubuntu7 (saucy), package size 0 kB, installed size 21 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)14:09
hitsujiTMOKamZou: ppas aren't really supported here14:09
ezra-sObrienDave, you can specify two or more packages in the same apt-get install statement14:10
ObrienDaveyea, i know. trying to keep it simple. KISS principal ;P14:10
KamZouezra-s, yes :  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa14:11
oldmanhitsujiTMO,  i did the nvidia 31914:11
ezra-sin any case apt-get install selects correct dependencies and isntall them by default so it should not be necessary, unless dependencies are not met or he is really doing dpkg -i...14:11
hitsujiTMOoldman:  and have you installed bumblee and prime?14:11
KamZouObrienDave, when i try to install 1.6 i get :  wine1.6 : Depends: wine1.6-i386 (= 1:1.6.1-0ubuntu1~ppa1)14:12
oldmanand now i have bumblebee with no  succsess14:12
ezra-sKamZou, but you need to do sudo apt-get update first14:12
KamZoui did14:12
oldmanyes14:12
oldmanprime give me blackscreen when boot and no desktop14:12
hitsujiTMOKamZou: what ppa are you using? are you using multiple conflicting ppas?14:12
KamZouhitsujiTMO,  ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa14:13
mbroekerCan someone help me with this warning message from nVidia Driver? http://codepad.org/3Hn6zfbR14:13
hitsujiTMOoldman: can you run: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dpkg --get-selections | pastebinit14:14
hitsujiTMOoldman: please paste ther link it generates14:14
ezra-smbroeker, basically it tells you not to use vgafb because you risk corruption14:14
mbroekerezra-s, do you know how to disable it and use plymouth splash?14:15
ezra-smbroeker, blacklist it if you are using nvidia propietary driver14:15
mbroekerezra-s, ok, will do14:15
KamZouhitsujiTMO, i've only those ppas "installed" : http://pastebin.com/Ad5hsKkM14:15
oldmanhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6639797/14:16
mbroekerbrb14:17
OerHeksKamZou, that https://launchpad.net/~joe-yasi/+archive/yasi ppa has wine too, conflicting. that is why PPA's are not supported, too many dependencie problems\14:18
oldmanhitsujiTMO,   http://paste.ubuntu.com/6639797/14:18
hitsujiTMOoldman: i see references to 3 different nvidia drivers14:20
KamZouOerHeks, i'm trying to remove the yasi one14:20
oldmanhitsujiTMO,   what does that mean?  what do i have to do?14:20
md_nfshello every one14:21
oldmanhello14:21
hitsujiTMO!ppa-purge | KamZou14:21
ubottuKamZou: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html14:21
md_nfswhen a cron set * * * * * like this, than bash cript how frequently run?14:22
hitsujiTMOoldman: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current && sudo apt-get purge nvidia-31914:22
llutzmd_nfs: every minute14:22
md_nfsllutz, thanks14:23
oldmanhitsujiTMO,   what does that mean?  what do i have to do?14:24
oldmanhitsujiTMO,   sorry... done14:24
KamZouhitsujiTMO, same issue without the second ppa :(14:25
hitsujiTMOoldman: reboot14:27
hitsujiTMOKamZou: pastebin: apt-cache policy wine-1.714:27
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KamZouhitsujiTMO : N: Couldn't find any package by regex 'wine-1.7'14:28
ezra-swine1.714:28
KamZouhitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/mZKkbzNU14:29
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oldmanhitsujiTMO,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6639863/14:31
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ice9after I installed ubuntu-restricted-extras and then kubuntu-desktop, there is noticeable noise when playing mp314:32
OerHeks!info darktable14:32
ubottudarktable (source: darktable): virtual lighttable and darkroom for photographers. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.3-1ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 2645 kB, installed size 7906 kB (Only available for any-i386; any-amd64)14:32
hitsujiTMOoldman: whats the output of: sudo apt-get install wine1.714:35
hitsujiTMOKamZou: : whats the output of: sudo apt-get install wine1.714:36
hitsujiTMOoldman: sorry dont run that14:36
backboxhello14:36
backboxbrothers14:36
oldmanhitsujiTMO,  E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'wine1.7'14:36
ezra-s13.10 uses 1.414:37
KamZouhitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/d75A02Dh14:37
backboxok  brother14:37
hitsujiTMOoldman: sudo apt-get purge bumblebee* nvidia-prime14:37
SuperLagThe Ubuntu configuration on my laptop is near perfect, but I want to do the hard drive shuffle. What's the most efficient way to get everything moved around, and intact?14:38
hitsujiTMOKamZou: pastebin output of: sudo apt-get install wine1.7-i38614:38
SuperLagWhere ~ is, is where I want / to be, when I'm done.14:38
backbox sudo apt-get install guga14:39
oldmanhitsujiTMO,  done14:39
KamZouhitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/puVVnQdb14:39
oldmanhitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6639899/14:40
oldman new one14:40
hitsujiTMOoldman: sudo apt-get purge nvidia-304 nvidia-settings-304 nvidia-settings-31914:40
oldmanhitsujiTMO, new one http://paste.ubuntu.com/6639913/14:41
hitsujiTMOoldman: reboot amd make sure everything is still ok14:42
hitsujiTMOs/amd/and14:42
backboxhello hitsuji14:42
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hitsujiTMOKamZou: pastebin: sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-0:i38614:44
KamZouhitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/0vU18Aqn And it continues over and over ...14:45
ice9dpkg-reconfigure lightdm doesn't show options to choose  between lightdm and kdm, the command just exits14:45
oldmanhitsujiTMO,  rebooted. nothing special happend. still saying graphics spec. is intel ivybridge and here the new one http://paste.ubuntu.com/6639926/14:46
hitsujiTMOKamZou: need to see where the conflict is stemming from: sudo apt-get install default-jre-headless14:47
KamZouhitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/0qHQB7YN14:47
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imghostice9, whats the issue?14:49
ice9imghost: where can I set the greeter?14:50
imghostice9, whats the problem? which display manager are you using?14:50
hitsujiTMOKamZou: what about: sudo apt-get install -s openjdk-7-jre14:50
ice9thanks imghost I solved it14:51
ice9imghost: now I have a problem with sound, noise in one of the speakers,  this happened after I installed kubuntu-desktop I think14:51
KamZouhitsujiTMO, if i resolve the 3 next dependancies, then i got this issue : http://pastebin.com/XVe2jpXW14:52
imghostice9,lol ok :), may be speaker got damaged14:52
KamZouhitsujiTMO, it looks like it would remove a lot of packages ..14:52
hitsujiTMOZamZou looks like openjdk-7-jre  is the problem14:52
hitsujiTMOKamZou: apt-cache policy openjdk-7-jre14:53
KamZouhitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/Sbi2cXrf14:53
mbroekerezra-s, i have disabled the bootsplash, blacklisted the fb module and the warning has gone...14:55
hitsujiTMOKamZou: guess its not then. did you use ppa-purge?14:56
hitsujiTMOKamZou: or did you just remove the ppa?14:56
IDFwhat should i learn first with linux on my Ubuntu? keep in mind ive never used linux before (:14:57
hitsujiTMO!manual | IDF14:57
ubottuIDF: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/14:57
[Gentoo]IDF: just use it14:57
IDFahh sweet ty :)14:57
[Gentoo]if you cant do something, then you learn how14:57
KamZouhitsujiTMO, i removed the ppa, then i still found some entries thah i removed manually (and then i see here someone writtint me about ppa purge package... but it won't "find" the package) i've just did a apt-get update after thah14:57
KamZouhitsujiTMO,  but i've still nothing installed via this ppa (i've added this one few minutes ago)14:58
* IDF puts image to vm and gets going14:58
IDFtyvm14:58
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hitsujiTMOKamZou: ahh thats the problem. you still have some parts of that ppa installed. it has updated some libs which is the cause of the conflict14:58
hitsujiTMOKamZou: can you add that ppa again and run ppa-purge14:59
KamZouhitsujiTMO, i hope you're right. Is there a way to clean this mess ? :D14:59
KamZouok i try14:59
oldmanhitsujiTMO,  I have to walk the dogs so i be back in an hour or so.  if you kidly cuold send me kind of a list of what to do. to get the nvidia to work?  ty15:00
ezra-smbroeker, I'm glad you got it sorted15:00
KamZouhitsujiTMO, ok i've added the ppa, purged, did a apt-get update, but still an issue with apt-get install wine (wine1.6 1.7 i1386 amd64 .......)15:01
hitsujiTMOoldman: sudo apt-get install bumblebee bumblebee-nvidia primus15:04
hitsujiTMOKamZou: only think to assume is a broken ppa then unfortunately15:05
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ice9which irc channel is related to codecs?15:05
[Gentoo]ice9: like what15:06
[Gentoo]maybe theres specific ones15:06
KamZouhitsujiTMO, i don't understand your last sentence ?15:06
ice9[Gentoo]: I have problems with sound, there are noise when playing something15:06
hitsujiTMOKamZou: as in i'd assume that the wine-ppa simply doesn't work. (they could have an incorrectly specified dependency in a package for instance )15:07
KamZouhitsujiTMO, so it may work in few hours for instance ?15:08
hitsujiTMOKamZou: or a few weeks. depending on what the problem is and if its theirs to fix. ( google had a similar problem with chromes deb, tooke them 2 weeks to fix it )15:09
KamZouok, i hope the problem is there, thank you for your time hitsujiTMO15:10
BjizzleHi. I recently got a gtx 780 so I tried using it with my 580. Now I'm trying to just use the 780. When I took out the 580 I now can't boot past bios splash screen and I can't get into the bois. I know all my hardware is fine.15:11
[Gentoo]Bjizzle: try draining the power15:12
[Gentoo]press and hold power button few times when pc is unplugged15:12
BjizzleOkay I did that15:13
[Gentoo]i take it it still doesnt work15:13
BjizzleLet us see..15:13
hitsujiTMOBjizzle: if you cant get into the bios make sure the 780 is seated correctly and power is connected correctly15:14
BjizzleSounded like it did but I guess not.15:14
BjizzleNo, it's not working. I can't get into bios. I'm p darn sure it's in there properly.15:15
hitsujiTMOBjizzle: if not then you could be holding a dead 78015:17
* ObrienDave would check the connections first15:18
Hydr0p0nX anyone abel to help me with a hdmi audio issue on 12.04.3 ?15:19
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ObrienDave!ask | Hydr0p0nX15:19
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yfgyugs87fy YOU MAY BE WATCHED15:19
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FloodBot1yfgyugs87fy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:19
ubottuHydr0p0nX: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience15:19
LjL!ops15:19
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BjizzleThe gtx 780 was working before I took out the 580. The drivers weren't though15:19
hitsujiTMOBjizzle: is it in the first pci-e slot?15:21
BjizzleYes15:21
BjizzleAt the top15:21
BjizzleI just reseated it15:21
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pcpcpcHi there,  i have a Problem: I cannot login anymore. After i changed my Password with passwd, there is just a short black screen and than back to login screen. I have ubuntu 12.04. Actually I just need get my Data very urgently.15:24
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hitsujiTMOpcpcpc: did you have an encrypted home directory15:25
hitsujiTMO?15:25
BjizzleIt's doing the same thing after reseating it.15:25
vorburgerhello, would this be an appropriate channel to ask for help re. an issue of greeter no longer appearing after reboot? It's a fresh vanilla std. 13.10 install, and I had installed kubuntu-desktop yesterday to have a look, then removed all packages that installed today, and seem to have removed something too much.... help, anyone? Tx!15:25
pcpcpcyes15:25
AssociateXHollas!15:26
pcpcpchitsujiTMO: yes15:26
hitsujiTMOpcpcpc: try changing back your password15:26
AssociateXSo, I want to figure out if I can use wireless with ubuntu or not. Is it doable or is it a chore or even possible?15:27
pcpcpchitsujiTMO: back to the old one? I dont know anymore.. Or i am not really sure.15:27
somsipAssociateX: yes, yes. cli can be more tricky, yes15:27
pcpcpchitsujiTMO: Is there an other way15:27
G[zero]DHi all, there are new about bug when connect iphone on ubuntu?15:28
somsipAssociateX: all dependant on your chipset/adapater of course15:28
AssociateXsomsip, thank you. Do you have an app in mind?15:28
hitsujiTMOpcpcpc: i'm not familiar with how home dir encryption works. you obviously need to update the password for the encrypted directory to mach your account password. you can recover the files seperately with http://www.howtogeek.com/116297/how-to-recover-an-encrypted-home-directory-on-ubuntu/15:28
LinuxKilledMegreetings #Ubuntu. after trying to set up my nvidia config to fix vsync problem, whenever i boot ubuntu, it give me a black screen. After asking help here, a guy told me that i needed to enable nomodeset in the grub conf to be able to boot properly. I did that, now my screen is stuck in the ubuntu loading screen. Any hints ? thanks :)15:28
pcpcpchitsujiTMO: I will try thank you15:29
somsipAssociateX: well I've only use cli, but plenty of people here have success with the provided gui tool. Maybe if you give more details you will get some help from someone who uses that15:29
hitsujiTMOBjizzle: i'm out of ideas if thats not working and its not dead15:29
AssociateXSomsip what details do you need to hear?15:30
AssociateXsomsip, Kubuntu.15:30
BjizzleI was getting bios code b2 meaning "legacy option rom initialization"15:30
Hydr0p0nXrunning ubuntu 12.04.3 and audio out over HDMI isn't working, I've made sure all my outputs are unmuted and turned up, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6640144/15:30
somsipAssociateX: what is your wifi card/chipset/whatever. And I have no experience with Kubuntu so you'll need help fro, an other15:30
BjizzleNow it's saying b4 which is "USB hot plug"15:31
hitsujiTMOAssociateX: wifi works for 80% of peeps out of the box. for another 10% it involves minor fiddleing. another 5% involes messing around/compiling with drivers. the remaining 5% have issues caused by network manager or non exiting drivers15:31
TeachermanI am new here...is this where I ask questions concerning 10.04 Linuxmce15:31
AssociateXsomsip, lsusb doesn't tell me anything.15:31
AssociateXhitsujiTMO, thank you.15:32
somsipAssociateX: is it a usb dongle?15:32
AssociateXno15:32
hitsujiTMOAssociateX: can you give us the vendor id and pci id?15:32
AssociateXsomsip, I'm going to search through lshw unless you have a better suggestion.15:33
AssociateXhitsujiTMO, ^^^'15:33
somsipAssociateX: my suggestion would be 'dont use lsusb if it isnt a usb dongle'. Looks there are more experienced people here who will be able to advise15:33
hitsujiTMOAssociateX: whats the relevant line in: lspci -nn15:35
TeachermanWill Linuxmce 10.4 interface with controller 2314U along with 2314S ?15:35
AssociateXhitsujiTMO, I'm not sure. Let me pastebin it.15:36
hitsujiTMOTeacherman: this is ubuntu support15:37
edd_hello15:38
AssociateXhitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.ca/251786815:38
AssociateXsee anything?15:38
hitsujiTMOTeacherman: try /join #LinuxMCE15:38
edd_is the wireless issue solved in some update   of 12.04?15:38
TeachermanThank you for the information.15:39
vorburgeredd_, this isn't you Dumbill? It's Michael..15:39
edd_what >15:39
edd_?15:39
TeachermanI have a question concerning Ubuntu also...what is needed to get my internal 3 1/2 floppy disks to working...also my Logitec Web cam?15:39
hitsujiTMOAssociateX: what version of ubuntu are you on?15:40
AssociateXLTS15:40
jhutchinsedd_: Depends on which wireless issue.  There isn't a general problem.15:40
AssociateXhitsujiTMO, how could I tell you the exact version?15:40
Hammeris they are any stuf here?15:41
edd_ok so i have some issues  with my wireless on acer notebook with atheros ar9485 , i could only make it work using echo " options asus_nb_wmi wpfa=1" >/etc/modprobe.d/asus.conf, is it solved yet in some update for 12.04.3?15:41
edd_jhutchins,15:41
hitsujiTMOTeacherman: both devices should work with straight off15:41
hitsujiTMOAssociateX: lts = 12.04. you wifi is supported in kernel 3.11 where you have 3.08 at the latest15:42
jhutchinsedd_: I don't know, but why would there be any change?15:42
AssociateXuname -a15:42
AssociateXLinux HPLaptop 3.2.0-56-generic #86-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 23 09:20:45 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux15:42
TeachermanPerhaps I am in the wrong version of Ubuntu also...I  currently have 12.04.315:42
AssociateXI have 3.2.blah15:42
hitsujiTMOAssociateX: have a look at http://askubuntu.com/questions/337785/wireless-not-working-on-toshiba-satellite-c55-a528110ec:817915:42
edd_can i use primus bumblebee backend on 12.04.3?15:43
AssociateXhitsujiTMO, thank you man!15:43
edd_12.04.3 with bumblebee primus backend ? anyone ?15:45
edd_HALP! plox!15:46
LinuxKilledMegreetings #Ubuntu. after trying to set up my nvidia config to fix vsync problem, whenever i boot ubuntu, it give me a black screen. After asking help here, a guy told me that i needed to enable nomodeset in the grub conf to be able to boot properly. I did that, now my screen is stuck in the ubuntu loading screen. Any hints ? thanks :)15:47
edd_i am switching OS15:47
edd_too much bullshit15:48
LinuxKilledMelol15:48
edd_and I also donated moneyz15:48
edd_to ubuntu15:48
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hitsujiTMO!patience | edd_15:48
ubottuedd_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/15:48
LinuxKilledMeedd_: i feel just like you right now...15:48
hitsujiTMOLinuxKilledMe: nomodeset is used for the open nouveau driver, not the proprietary driver15:49
LinuxKilledMehitsujiTMO: i only did what Rory asked me to do. Im trying to leave windows, but its hard to find proper support :-/15:50
RoryLinuxKilledMe: eh?15:50
LinuxKilledMehitsujiTMO: i mean i dont know much about why he asked me to do so15:50
hitsujiTMOLinuxKilledMe: did you install the proprietary drivers?15:50
LinuxKilledMenope.15:51
pcpcpcHey hitsujiTMO: maybe you or someone else have a hint for me: i followed this how-to http://www.howtogeek.com/116297/how-to-recover-an-encrypted-home-directory-on-ubuntu , but after opening the files with gksu nautlius there were still crypted15:51
pcpcpc*they were15:51
RoryLinuxKilledMe: You can disable nomodeset temporarily if it doesn't help, and then disable it permanently again once you have booted - hold shift to access the Grub menu while booting, then press E to edit the current option. Scroll down and remove the nomodeset option then press Ctrl-X to boot15:51
bekkspcpcpc: All your questions were already answered in #ubuntu-de15:51
bekkspcpcpc: You really just have to follow the wiki article you've already been given.15:52
hitsujiTMOLinuxKilledMe: what entries did add to xorg.conf?15:52
LinuxKilledMehitsujiTMO: ive not edited that file15:52
kubuntovid issue: http://pastebin.com/7P3zEgsD15:52
LinuxKilledMeis there a way to desinstall all nvidia settingds15:52
sandhui m not able to download or install testdisk from 10.10 ubuntu software centre15:52
bekkssandhu: No.15:53
LinuxKilledMethen reinstall them in the clean way ?15:53
vmusrhow to enable my bluetooth adapter? I can see it in lsusb, but there's no bluetooth in the OS15:53
bekkssandhu: 10.10 is EOL.15:53
sandhumeans15:53
bekkssandhu: No support for 10.10 anymore.15:53
hitsujiTMOsandhu: no support, no repo, no nothing15:53
sandhubut how i can upgrade this ,,,i have lost my all photos15:54
bekkssandhu: use a live cd, install/use testdisk from the livecd.15:54
SuperLagWould "rsync -avz /home/foo/ /path/to/homebackup" get the job done *properly* to make a clone of ~?15:54
sandhuwhat is live cd15:54
devicenullso, I'm trying to install 12.04 x64 via net install, and the precise-updates installer.  however, I'm getting an error from the installer saying 'no kernel modules were found'.  Looking at the logs of the HTTP mirror I'm using, I see the installer fetching content from the /precise/ repo, no /precise-updates/ .  How do I convince the installer to use the15:55
devicenullright version of files?15:55
bekkssandhu: the 12.04 live cd you asked where to download from today.15:55
vmusrf0rever15:55
hitsujiTMOsandhu: this was explained to you yesterday. you need to boot a 12.04 live cd to recover your photos. then once they are recovered you can safely upgrade15:55
jeffrey_fQuestion:  Thinkpad T60. Bluetooth works great.  After lid close=hibernate and de-hibernate bluetooth doesn't connect to nor find any devices.  This works fine after a fresh start from power-down.15:55
luizHi guys, I got this 3G modem which is not connecting. I've searched a lot on google found a bunch of solutions, none worked. Can anyone help me out? the modem is a huawei e17315:55
kubuntovid issue: http://pastebin.com/7P3zEgsD15:55
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sandhufrom where i can get 12.0415:56
sandhuis there any site or sourse15:56
bekkssandhu: www.ubuntu.com15:56
hitsujiTMOsandhu: releases.ubuntu.com15:56
bekkssandhu: Same site as earlier today.15:56
knightshadeHello15:57
luizHelp with modem 3g that wont connect ?15:57
knightshade!3G | luiz15:58
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kubuntovid issue: http://pastebin.com/7P3zEgsD16:00
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sandhuis that 12.04.3 LTS16:01
hitsujiTMOkubunto: they're all the same thing.16:01
oldmanhitsujiTMO,  if i can bother you a wile? i now did the install of bumblebee nvidia primus... still i se in the info that its intel. is tthere still something to do?16:01
hitsujiTMOsandhu: yes16:02
luizknightshade, nothing happened... I'm trying now some other config I just found on google16:02
kubuntohitsujiTMO: what do you mean16:02
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edd_i have bumblebee installed16:02
edd_oldman,16:02
oldmanyes16:02
oldmanedd_16:03
edd_you should optirun -b none nvidia-settings c:8  <--- google it16:03
hitsujiTMOoldman: to run an app with you nvidia gpu you need to run it with primus run. i.e.: primusrun steam16:03
kubuntohitsujiTMO: how do i fix it16:03
edd_yes as hitsujiTMO  said, you only run some stuff with the discrete graphics card16:03
edd_either with virtualgl or primus backend16:04
edd_oldman,  you have 12.04.316:04
edd_?16:04
sandhunow i m downloading desktop cd ,,,what to do later...am i going right16:04
edd_uga buga16:04
kubuntoworked itself out16:04
sandhutell me ....16:05
sandhupl reply..16:05
Rorysandhu: Burn it to a blank dvd, or create a bootable USB flash drive16:06
axizorhow do i install glibc 2.16 on a 64bit 12.04 machine\16:06
Rory!install | sandhu16:06
ubottusandhu: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - See also !automate16:06
hitsujiTMOkubunto: that adobe package you are trying to install is just another way of installing the other package. adobe are no longer supporting linux so if you want to try another flash player install chrome and remove the adobe flash player. chrom come bundled with its own player16:06
edd_sander, ubuntu can ruin your day in many ways , you're not alone16:06
edd_sandhu,16:06
edd_quit16:06
Roryaxizor: you cna use "sudo apt-get install libc6=2.16-0ubuntu5 && sudo ldconfig"16:07
hitsujiTMOsandhu: this was explained to you yesterday. burn the iso. boot to the live cd (test ubuntu). then install and use photorec from the live cd16:07
axizorRory says libc6 was not found16:07
oldmanhitsujiTMO,  edd_  okej so i dont get it to start up when i start the computer? i have noticed youtube laggs a lott  if i watch full hd videos dosent nvidia help in that?16:08
sandhuthat desktop cd will be ISO16:09
axizoranyone successfully running a utorrent server on x6416:10
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luizcan anyone help me with 3G modem. Here the syslog http://pastebin.com/HLBc2sky16:10
sandhupl tell me16:10
hitsujiTMOoldman, optimus cards are run on demand. so you must call it. your intel gpu should be more than capable of fullscreen vid acceleration. most likely the gpu isnt the cause of the lag16:10
oldmanedd_, i had the 12.04 and it worked nice. i boted the computer and ubuntu 12.04 reconised the nvidia. but had truble with the sound. you can check this out http://askubuntu.com/questions/395854/ubuntu-problems-in-12-04-and-13-10-on-the-sony-vaio-fit16:10
sandhuthis will be iso image16:11
sandhuthat desktop cd will be ISO16:11
hitsujiTMOsandhu: can you rephrase the question. doesn't make sense16:12
jeffrey_fThinkpad T60-->Bluetooth works great.  After lid close=hibernate and de-hibernate, bluetooth doesn't connect to nor find any devices.  It works fine after a fresh start from power-down.  Any ideas16:12
sandhunow i m downloading desktop cd ,,is that will be iso16:12
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hitsujiTMO!in | sandhu maybe it might be easier if you got help in your native language16:12
ubottusandhu maybe it might be easier if you got help in your native language: #ubuntu-in is the channel for Ubuntu in India16:12
luizHelp modem 3g? wont connect http://pastebin.com/HLBc2sky16:13
hitsujiTMOsandhu: yes thats an iso file that you can burn to cd16:13
sandhuk thax bro.....16:14
oldmanhitsujiTMO,  ohh this is awwful. do you think that i go back to 12.04 and rather fix the sound problem? this continius problem with ubuntu tears my relationship up (-_-)16:14
hitsujiTMOoldman: i wouldn't recommend 12.04 with such a new system. Some drivers may not have been backported16:17
hitsujiTMOoldman: what is the sound issue?16:17
axizoranyone know about how to get glibc on 12.04 x6416:17
oldmanhitsujiTMO,  ohh this is awwful. do you think that i go back to 12.04 and rather fix the sound problem? this continius problem with ubuntu tears my relationship up (-_-)16:17
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axizordont use ubuntu then16:18
oldmanhitsujiTMO,  sorry.... having sound in headphone jack but not the speakers16:18
hitsujiTMOoldman: is that from first boot? or did it never go to speaker?16:18
oldmanhitsujiTMO,  i was trying to get it to work in 2 days and followed google tight. then i was lead to upgrade kernel and then i never got the 12.04 to start anymore16:20
luizmodem 3g, can anyone make huawei connect?16:21
oldmanhitsujiTMO,  then i went back to 13.10. and noticed that 12.04 not reconise  my nvidia16:21
oldmanhitsujiTMO,  then i went back to 13.10. and noticed that 13.10 not reconise  my nvidia16:22
oldmanluiz, i made it to a friend of mine16:22
oldmanluiz, but it was a strugle16:22
axizoranyone know about glibc on 12.0416:23
oldmanluiz, it was like this i made it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF8xI_DM9NY16:25
axizorstfu16:25
kruxomanCan I set a temporary home in a terminal? To avoid the current path beeing a hundred letters16:25
hitsujiTMOkruxoman: can you better explain your problem16:28
oldmanhitsujiTMO,  then i went back to 13.10. and noticed that 12.04 not reconise  my nvidia16:28
oldmanhitsujiTMO,  primus: fatal: Bumblebee daemon reported: error: Could not load GPU driver16:28
jeffrey_fThinkpad T60-->Bluetooth works great.  After lid close=hibernate and de-hibernate, bluetooth doesn't connect to nor find any devices.  It works fine after a fresh start from power-down.  Any ideas16:28
hitsujiTMOoldman: is that still happening now?16:28
vorburgerjust talking to respond to myself ;-) - I've now figured it out - the /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf was broken after a kubuntu-desktop install and remove, it had16:28
vorburger< user-session=ubuntu16:29
vorburger< greeter-session=unity-greeter16:29
vorburger---16:29
vorburger> user-session=kde-plasma16:29
FloodBot1vorburger: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:29
vorburger> greeter-session=16:29
oldmanhitsujiTMO,  yes it is...16:29
hitsujiTMOoldman: can you pastebin the output of: cat /etc/pastebin/*16:30
hitsujiTMOoldman: can you pastebin the output of: cat /etc/pastebin/*16:30
hitsujiTMOoldman: can you pastebin the output of: cat /etc/bumblebee/*16:30
hitsujiTMOsorry16:30
kruxomanhitsujiTMO: At the terminal "kruxoman@Computer:~/.local/share/smuxi/hooks/frontend/command-manager/command-mycommand". The path to the current dir is very long. I want to make it shorter and one solution would be a temporary home. Do you know of a solution?16:30
goncalosskruxoman: export PS1=">"16:31
AssociateXHello again.16:32
oldmanhitsujiTMO,  do you think its a big deal to get the sound to work in 12.04? i have used linux one year on the old computer and like it but im not so in to the terminal stuff... old windows user16:32
eqisowSo I have 13.04 and I'm trying to watch TV through the Intel HDMI on my laptop. The extra monitor shows up and HDMI audio is an option in my sound settings... simply nothing comes through the speakers. The TV HDMI/sound works normally with other inputs. Does anyone have ANY ideas for something I could try to get sound output?16:33
cruejonesany ideas on why usb would stop working on 13.10? worked on 13.04 (hp pavilion g6)16:33
yto i cant shutdown my laptop in ubuntu . i try sudo shutdown -h and -P but it cant solve my problem. anyone can help me?16:33
hitsujiTMOkrux: foobar="$HOME/.local/share/smuxi/hooks/frontend/command-manager/command-mycommand"                         if you just want to reference. but if you cd'ing to that directory then try: ln -s ~/.local/share/smuxi/hooks/frontend/command-manager/command-mycommand ~/that-folder; cd ~/that-folder16:33
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kruxomanThat's really cool :D Thanks hitsujiTMO16:33
AssociateXwhere is the file that locks the software updating apps?16:33
oldmanhitsujiTMO,  the pastebin on the bumble bee is a lot of text i dont think u appriciate if i paste it here16:34
kruxomanThat export PS1 command16:34
MonkeyDustcruejones  stops working? meaning?16:34
AssociateXI can't do updates. It appears that another app is open.16:34
cruejonesMonkeyDust: does not detect any devices16:34
cruejonesMonkeyDust: on any of the ports16:34
ice9is there a better key store app than seahorse?16:34
MonkeyDustice9  define "better"16:35
hitsujiTMOAssociateX: apt-get ubuntu-updates and software-centre all share the same lock file. you can only have 1 open at a time16:35
jeffrey_fice9: kleopatra works good and the interface isn't too bad either.16:35
yto i cant shutdown my laptop in ubuntu . i try sudo shutdown -h and -P but it cant solve my problem. anyone can help me?16:35
MonkeyDustcruejones  does lsusb show something?16:35
ice9MonkeyDust: has more features, like backup, easier management16:35
hitsujiTMOoldman: paste.ubuntu.com16:36
jeffrey_fice9: Gnupg or other keys??16:36
cruejonesMonkeyDust: nope16:36
ice9jeffrey_f: gnupg and ssh keys16:36
phil__or mnt is busy16:36
AssociateXhitsujiTMO, where is that lock file? I rebooted and I still cant do updates.16:36
cruejonesMonkeyDust: well it includes one device (Chicony Electronics16:37
MonkeyDustAssociateX  try this in a terminal     sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/apt/lists/lock16:37
cruejonesMonkeyDust: even when none are plugged in16:37
oldmanhitsujiTMO,  heh.. here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/6640483/16:37
MonkeyDustcruejones  what if none are plugged in?16:38
cruejonesstill shows that one16:38
phil__something wrong with an install ex DKMS16:38
hitsujiTMOoldman: whats ouput of: lspci | grep VGA16:38
MonkeyDustcruejones  sounds odd, no clue what might cause it16:38
AssociateXMonkeyDust, nothing happens.16:39
AssociateXcruejones, cool name!16:39
yto i cant shutdown my laptop in ubuntu . i try sudo shutdown -h and -P but it cant solve my problem. anyone can help me?16:40
phil__the swap ain"t dismount16:41
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oldmanhitsujiTMO, timo@vaio-SVF15A1C5E:~$ lspci | grep VGA16:42
oldman00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)16:42
phil__yto try halt -r16:44
phil__quit16:44
hitsujiTMOoldman: can you pastebin the fill output of: lspci16:45
eqisowI'm looking at pavucontrol and under Output Devices it shows the HDMI AND the amplification meter bounces when I play stuff... I just can't get sound on the TV16:46
eqisowalthough, again the TV works with other inputs. I'm at a loss.16:46
zeorinHello, does anyone know how I could create my own ubuntu 13.10 armhf rootfs? There are no easy instructions for live-build anywhere and rootstock is deprecated... I don't know where to look and #ubuntu-arm channel is dead, as per usual16:48
oldmanhitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6640534/16:48
AssociateXMonkeyDust, sudo dpkg --configure -a <--- fixed it.16:48
hitsujiTMOoldman: whats output of: groups16:49
jeffrey_fice9: Kleopatra handles GnuPG keys very well while seahorse works for the other keys16:49
roksvamphi everyone, i just installed 13.10 and my keyboard and mouse refuses to work The keyboard is fine in PS/2 mode, but the usb ports are all broken16:49
oldmanhitsujiTMO,  groups16:49
oldmantimo adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare bumblebee16:49
ice9jeffrey_f: but Kleopatra can't hold ssh keys right?16:49
roksvampI tried acpi=off as suggested in a forum post, but then ubuntu didn't boot at all16:50
luizoldman, I did what video asked for, going to reset pc and then I'll come back with result.16:50
ytomy laptop freeze in ubuntu logo screen when shutdown it. test shutdown -h and -p but my problem not solved. anyone can help me?16:50
ffthis is spam16:52
jeffrey_fice9:  X.509 and OpenPGP/GnuPG16:53
ytomy laptop freeze in ubuntu logo screen when shutdown it. test shutdown -h and -p but my problem not solved. anyone can help me?16:54
hitsujiTMOoldman: whats ouput of lsmod16:54
oldmanhitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6640578/16:55
Randi_hi ^^16:56
hitsujiTMOoldman: also pastebin contents of /etc/bumblebee/xorg.conf.nvidia16:56
MonkeyDustAssociateX  great!16:56
hitsujiTMOoldman: i think KernelDriver=nvidia-current needs to be changed to KernelDriver=nvidia    in /etc/bumblebee/xorg.conf.nvidia16:57
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CarlFKis there a command line tool to send stdin to a pastebin ?16:57
oldmanhitsujiTMO,  i dont know how to open /etc/bumblebee/xorg.conf.nvidia16:57
Randi_Can someone make a package for this? http://hedgewars.org/download.html16:58
Randi_^^16:58
hitsujiTMOoldman: sudo nano /etc/bumblebee/xorg.conf.nvidia16:58
hitsujiTMOoldman: make the change: then Ctrl+O to write changes. ctrl+x to exit16:59
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ytomy laptop freeze in ubuntu logo screen when shutdown it. test shutdown -h and -p but my problem not solved. anyone can help me?16:59
hitsujiTMO!paste | CarlFK16:59
ubottuCarlFK: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.16:59
luizoldman, no deal. Still doesnt connect.17:00
hitsujiTMO!pastebinit | CarlFK even17:00
ubottuCarlFK even: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com17:00
CarlFKhitsujiTMO: bingo.  thanks17:00
IDFvirtual machine or native installation?17:00
homecablewhats a good desktop manger for a netbook17:01
oldmanluiz,  i remember you have to register every time my friend connected to internet with 3g17:01
luizregister what? oldman17:02
ytomy laptop freeze in ubuntu logo screen when shutdown it. test shutdown -h and -p but my problem not solved. anyone can help me?17:04
vakhi all17:04
vilemaximRunning into an issue with x forwarding. I get an error "X11 forwarding request failed on channel 1" when I try to login. not sure why it's not channel 0. When I attempt to run something and X app I get "Error: no display specified" my ssh client can accept X from other servers. This server does have "X11Forwarding yes" in it's conf Google has been little help. Anyone got a clue for me.17:05
oldmanluiz, in the connection settings mobile broadband.  i am not the real guy to tell u how its done i only made it once to my friend and i used the video on the url and thats all the settings u need. try set up a usr name and password.17:05
luizoldman, I already did that, it connect and disconnect just after17:06
rcw2what are the main differences between running ubuntu on a mac vs pc17:07
vaki have Ubuntu installed. Now i am trying to install windows 7 and am seeing something that i never have seen before: Windows installer refuses to install reporting that partition is in GPT style... is it possible to install the damn Windows WITHOUT destroying  my Ubuntu?..17:07
vector_why is sudo fdisk -l not displaying all of the partition17:07
Priceyvak: Only one hard disk?17:08
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oldmanluiz, then im sorry i cant help. i cant even handle my own ubuntu issues17:08
vakPricey: actually 317:08
luizoldman, no problem man, thank you for your time17:08
kamayumi92hello. cpu usage are high after wake up from suspend. Ubuntu 12.04 . help17:08
vector_I need help17:08
vakPricey: 2 HDD, 1 SSD17:09
Priceyvak: I find it's always safest to install windows first... even disconnecting existing linux HDs if you're dual booting. You can't install to one of the others?17:09
vilemaximvector_, that's odd... you sure it's a good drive17:09
Jordan_Uvak: Yes it is possible to install Windows without needing to later re-install Ubuntu completely, though in your case it may be more difficult than normal.17:09
vector_on Gparted it displays them all17:09
vilemaximvector_, drive is bigger that 2 TB17:10
oldmanhitsujiTMO,  its to much terminal for me. i try ubuntu 12.04 tommorow and i come back and ask help for the audio insted.17:10
vakPricey: SSD gives me an error 0x80300024. other HDD has no free partitions17:10
vector_no17:10
jeekIs there a recommended way to get Apache 2.2.26 or 2.4 into Ubuntu 10.04 LTS?17:10
vector_700 gb or something17:10
Jordan_Uvector_: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l" and "sudo fdisk -l".17:10
oldmanhitsujiTMO,  but i really appriciate the time u took and helpt me. tanks a lot. and god bless :D17:10
vakJordan_U: any hints?17:10
vilemaximvector_, what kind of partition table msdos or gpt17:11
kamayumi92hello. cpu usage are high after wake up from suspend. Ubuntu 12.04 . pls help17:11
vilemaximvector_, I think fdisk has issues with gpt  just a stab in the dark17:11
MonkeyDustjeek  what version do you have in 12.04?17:11
vector_I'm trying reinstall grub17:11
jeek2.2.2217:11
jeek14.04 will have 2.4, but isn't out yet17:12
MonkeyDustjeek  try the !backports for a more recent version17:12
Jordan_Uvak: You can convert an Ubuntu instsllation from GPT to an msdos label, abd you can install Windows on GPT if your boot firmware can boot via UEFI.17:12
vilemaximvector_, grub giving you an issue then?17:12
luizGuys, I need help with modem 3g17:12
vector_yes17:12
vector_http://pastebin.com/EzdeKhc5 and the other one in a sec17:14
vilemaximvector_, what is it's issue17:14
zivesterdoes anyone know how to make a live USB on xubuntu 13.10 ?17:14
Priceyvak: ##windows for that error ;-) But I would remove the linux hard disk, install windows somewhere then come back here for help fixing grub.17:14
vakJordan_U: my motherboard is 2 years old or so i guess... so it should be ok, why is installer complaining?.. i've checked the bios settings...17:14
vakPricey: i see17:14
jeekMonkeyDust: How does that work? Do I set up lucid-backports because I'm on lucid, or something newer because that's where the newer software is?17:15
Jordan_Uvector_: You should always read and try to understand error messages. Don't ignore them, especially if you're seeing results you don't expect.17:15
jeffrey_fThinkpad T60. Bluetooth works great.  After lid close=hibernate and de-hibernate bluetooth doesn't connect to nor find any devices.  This works fine after a fresh start from power-down.  Any ideas????17:15
MonkeyDustjeek  10.04 desktop or server? desktop is !eol, dead17:16
vilemaximvector_, I think your issue with fdisk is the partition table is a gpt partition. I dobt that has anything to do with your grub issue17:16
jeekServer17:16
MonkeyDust!backports | jeek17:17
ubottujeek: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging17:17
vector_should it matter sudo flist says17:17
vilemaximvector_, I think the newer fdisk can handle it (If I'm remembering right)17:17
Jordan_Uvector_: Please pastebin the complete output of "sudo fdisk -l" for educstional purposes.17:18
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vector_http://pastebin.com/Ewtpv1nz17:18
Jordan_Us/educstional/educational/17:18
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vilemaximvector_, not sure I understand the question....17:19
jeeklooks like apache2 hasn't made it into backports17:19
vector_I tried going off this tutorial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajs9rO5upZA17:19
vilemaximvector_, I'm not sure what the issue is anymore. fdisk is not the tool to use under your situation.17:20
MonkeyDustjeek  upgrading to 12.04 is an option, but 14.04 will soon be out, so i guess you better be more patient17:20
Jordan_Uvector_: "WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted." Hence why parted shows all your partitions, because it's the correct tool to use for GPT didks.17:20
vector_but I got errors sudo mount --bind17:20
jeek12.04 only has 2.2.22, we need 2.2.26 or 2.4 to pass this security audit. :(17:21
vector_so sudo flist doesn't matter?17:21
vilemaximvector_, I don't know what sudo flist is17:22
vector_ok17:22
vilemaximvector_, my machine doesn't have flist installed not does it know how to install it17:23
Jordan_Uvector_: The partition shown in the output from f*disk* is not important to you.17:24
vector_I know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!17:24
MonkeyDustvilemaxim  tjrn you'll have to make your machine do it17:24
MonkeyDustthen*17:24
vector_I tried going off this tutorial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajs9rO5upZA and error on sudo mount --bink17:25
vector_it fisk not flist17:26
vector_it fdisk not flist17:27
llutzmount has no such option --bink17:27
vector_I ment --bind17:27
llutzvector_: what error do you get when you try to do what exactly?17:28
luizGuys anyone can help me with the modem 3g. Please I'm stuck 2 days with it17:28
SchrodingersScatweird, i can connect to my pptpd server, but now I can't make any outbound connections.  went through the install guide again and everything seemed to match17:29
llutzpeople still use pptp today? odd17:29
SchrodingersScatseemed like the easiest to get all my devices on.17:30
SchrodingersScatie. phone17:30
vilemaximvector_, well personally I'm not going to watch a youtube video.17:30
llutzSchrodingersScat: pptp is broken, use openvpn17:30
vector_give a sec17:31
vector_I says mount /mnt/dev does not exist17:31
vector_I says mount point /mnt/dev does not exist17:32
vilemaximI would think it won't. what are you trying to do17:32
jhutchinsvector_: So create the mount point.17:32
vector_s o how do I do that17:32
vector_so how do I do that17:32
vilemaximvector_, mkdir17:32
vilemaximvector_, this is for your bind mounts?17:33
llutzSchrodingersScat: what phone does still need pptp? for android 4.* there is "OpenVPN for Android", no root needed anymore17:33
vector_I'm confused17:34
tony_security  issues in ubuntu17:34
MeerkatIs there an easy way to start gedit minimized? Or even all programs that start?17:34
jhutchinsllutz: I think you are poorly informed about pptp.17:34
llutzjhutchins: informed enough to know that it's considered broken (crypto)17:35
SchrodingersScatllutz: I need even less to run the pptp though.17:36
vilemaximvector_, I'm attempting to help you.... but you are not answering my questions so it's kinda hard. I'm loosing interest in helping to be honest17:36
tony_network security project ideas in ubuntu17:36
pcpcpcHi! I need your help. I try to get my data back from encrypted home folder. I used ecryptfs-recover-private and got a new home folder, but its still crypted. Anyone know what to do?17:36
vector_I'm going to try it later17:37
vilemaximRunning into an issue with x forwarding. I get an error "X11 forwarding request failed on channel 1" when I try to login. not sure why it's not channel 0. When I attempt to run something and X app I get "Error: no display specified" my ssh client can accept X from other servers. This server does have "X11Forwarding yes" in it's conf Google has been little help. Anyone got a clue for me.17:37
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bgardnertony_: Please use full sentences, this channel is populated by humans.17:39
jhutchinsvilemaxim: You might start with env | grep DISPLAY to see if a display is set and if so to what.  Check to make sure that the client has enabled forwarding as well.17:39
jhutchinsvilemaxim: What environment are you forwarding _to_?17:39
vilemaximubuntu to ubuntu     echo $DISPLAY is empty17:40
tony_@bgardner_ am new to irc17:40
bgardnertony_: I understand.  This particular IRC channel is the Ubuntu support channel.  There are many real people here ready to help you with your questions.  Just type the Ubuntu question or problem in regular English and we will do what we can to help you.17:41
vilemaximjhutchins, forwarding to my local machine. really it's the only way I know how. Client is corrent. It works on other servers just fine17:42
binaryhatim trying to Log ufw to a seperate logfile--->http://vincom2.wordpress.com/2010/04/07/logging-ufw-to-a-seperate-logfile/ but no luck17:43
ceti331_Can the 13' macbook pro retina drive 2 external monitors (different screens, not mirrored) .. Via the thunderbolt and hdmi i guess17:44
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pcpcpcHi I try to get my data back from encrypted home folder. I used ecryptfs-recover-private and got a new home folder, but its still crypted. Anyone know what to do?17:48
SonikkuAmericaceti331_: (a) I've never seen a 13-foot MacBook Pro, and (b) is Ubuntu installed onto it?17:49
SchrodingersScatSonikkuAmerica: sounds huge17:50
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SonikkuAmerica<ceti331_> Can the 13' macbook pro retina drive 2 external monitors (different screens, not mirrored) .. Via the thunderbolt and hdmi i guess <<< SchrodingersScatikr?17:50
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eqisowAnybody had an issue with Intel HDMI audio where the audio device shows up and seems to be working, but there's no sound?17:51
cordycepslsdvd always reports errors like http://paste.ubuntu.com. But the dvd's are fine. It's not the drive either. lsdvd version is the latest according to synaptic. ???17:51
cordycepsoops, http://paste.ubuntu.com/664082117:52
jeffrey_fThinkpad T60. Bluetooth works great.  After lid close=hibernate and de-hibernate bluetooth doesn't connect to nor find any devices.  This works fine after a fresh start from power-down.  Any ideas????17:54
llutzjeffrey_f: unload bluetooth when hibernating, reload it after.17:56
cordycepslsdvd always reports errors like http://paste.ubuntu.com/6640821 But the dvd's are fine. It's not the drive either. lsdvd version is the latest according to synaptic. Ditto libdvdcss2 and libdvdread4. ???17:56
ceti331_Oops wrong channel17:56
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llutzjeffrey_f: like mentioned here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1387211&p=12464999#post1246499917:58
shazzrHi. Came back from holiday, and bootet my computer running Ubuntu 12.4.3, and the graphical user interface will not start. Last thing I can remember is that I might have done an sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade before I went home for xmas. I get no login screen for the graphical environment. Where could I look for error messages?17:59
rcw2what are the main differences between running ubuntu on a mac vs pc17:59
jhutchinsshazzr: Can you get a console login with Ctrl-Alt-F1?18:00
shazzrOn tty7 it says "Starting TiMidity++ ALSA midi emulation..."18:00
shazzrjhutchins: Yes. Running irssi from console as we speak...18:00
gjmmy ubuntu is fucked :/18:01
bazhangno cursing here gjm18:02
shazzrgjm: How?18:02
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gjmbazhang: why?18:02
esdeHas anyone else experienced an issue wth Teamviewer on Ubuntu (12.04) dekstop, where TV works fine for a few days, and then suddenly inbound connection requests fail after ~90 seconds???18:03
tyrnirogood evening18:05
shazzrjhutchins: I've tried to reinstall ubuntu-desktop, but there appears to be no such package installed. Also tried to delete a .Xsomething from ~/ but no luck. Even tried the good old sudo service gdm restart, but without any results.18:06
jeffrey_fllutz: Is this a bug?18:06
llutzjeffrey_f: more a common issue with some modules18:07
AssociateXhitsujiTMO, I have wifi working. Thank you for all of your help.18:07
jeffrey_fOK, giving it a try18:07
esdeThis bug sucks. Everytime I have unsaved worked save I end up losing it because rebooting is the only solution. >:(18:09
tyrniroI have quite a specific problem: I disassembled an old laptop, taking out the hard drive. I proceeded to plug it into a sata-adapter, which in turn connects to my ubuntu maschine via usb. fdisk shows the partitions correctly, 1-2 are windows system stuff, 3 is the main/biggest partition. when I try to mount it(sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb3 /media/some-mount-point), it gives me the error "ntfs signature missing". has anyone experienced this pr18:10
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KaedennI did an apt-get upgrade, where can I find a changelog of a specific package I just upgraded? I'm familiar with dpkg and command-line.18:11
llutztyrniro: "sudo blkid dev/sdX3" shows what? replace sdX with the real devicename please18:12
Jordan_Utyrniro: Your message was cut off at "experienced this pr".18:12
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llutztyrniro: /dev...18:13
KaedennThe package was libnss, and it distrusted a certain CA. I want to find out what CA that was again.18:13
ssssss13IU1O3c18:13
trismKaedenn: /usr/share/doc/package_name/changelog.Debian.gz18:13
shazzrjhutchins: Hmm...tried a startx, and got some error message regarding my Nvidia card. Wrong version number and some kernel stuff. Trying to delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf and rebooting....18:13
Kaedenntrism: danke!18:13
tyrnirollutz: it shows nothing...18:15
shazzrjhutchins: Nope. No luck.18:15
Hydr0p0nXrunning ubuntu 12.04.3 and audio out over HDMI isn't working, I've made sure all my outputs are unmuted and turned up, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6640971/18:15
llutztyrniro: pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l" please18:15
davidzzjeehey18:15
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tyrniropaste is at http://pastebin.com/qbqUsChV18:18
llutztyrniro: we talk about /dev/sda? try mounting /dev/sda5 not /dev/sda3 (which doesn't exist)18:19
tyrnirollutz: sda is from my own maschine, which has full disk encryption. the external one does not even show up. also, sorry for answering so slow, big lag since being in israel18:21
llutztyrniro: oh, but fdisk had shown the layout before?18:21
Jordan_Utyrniro: It looks like either A: You have an invalid partition table or B: Your external enclosure is not exposing the entire disk.18:22
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bonez2046I am setting up 13.10 on an older pc, trying out the encryption items... it's prompting for a 'security key' but gives no parameters about what a key would be18:24
bonez2046ideas? is it a key phrase or password/code18:24
Jordan_Ubonez2046: Please pastebin the exact text of the prompt, or post a screenshot.18:25
dragon644Hi18:25
Jordan_Utyrniro: Please pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l".18:25
bonez2046it's on another pc, let me copy it all over18:26
dragon644What's the best window manager nowadays18:27
kostkon!poll18:27
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.18:27
Ponch0i'm gonna get a goat to eat my trash so i can be eco-friendly18:28
bazhangPonch0, wrong channel for that18:28
tyrnirollutz: I had to reconnect, did I miss anything in the meantime?18:28
Ponch0bazhang: sorry I thought I was in a diff channel18:29
jeffrey_fllutz:  That seemed to work.  This being a workaround, right?18:29
abu_sadoPonch0: then eat the goat18:29
cashngunsSounds like good goat milk and cheese18:29
vikdo any one why internet speed is low in ubuntu terminal . Because in windows internet  is good18:30
viksorry18:31
vik do any one know why internet speed is low in ubuntu terminal . Because in windows internet  is good18:31
Pessimist!Ipv618:31
ubottuFor an introduction to IPv6 and information on tunneling IPv6 through IPv4 connections, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPv6 | To disable IPv6 see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv418:31
Ponch0lol18:33
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bonez2046Jordan_U: it prompts with 'Choose a security key:' and then asks to confirm it a second time18:34
bonez2046Jordan_U: what i want to know is the required amount of characters, whether it's a phrase or just a password18:34
vikk thank u ubottu :-D18:35
Pessimistbonez2046: It should be as long as you can reasonably remember and you are willing to type.18:36
bonez2046Pessimist: so a phrase is fine, not just a word18:37
ne0_hi18:37
Pessimistbonez2046: If you actually set up encryption (LUKS) through terminal it stops reading at \n. It doesn't matter if it contains spaces or other symbols. The hash function takes the as much text as you give it and returns a result18:38
bonez2046ok ...thanks18:40
bonez2046it's been a while since I ran a new ubuntu install18:40
rijackI'm having trouble making a voice call through empathy18:41
rijackis there things i need to install that arent there by default18:43
Hydr0p0nXrunning ubuntu 12.04.3 and audio out over HDMI isn't working, I've made sure all my outputs are unmuted and turned up, can someone take a look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/6640971/ and see if there's anything i'm missing ?18:47
Jordan_UHydr0p0nX: Try asking in #alsa18:47
pcpcpcSomeone know how to change the PASSPHRASE from ecryptfs?18:47
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MonkeyDustpcpcpc  you forgot your passphrase?18:54
john83hello :)18:55
john83how can i remove ubuntu cloud icon from top toolbar?18:56
john83ok i used google.com found it18:57
john83nm :)18:57
rcw2what are the main differences between running ubuntu on a mac vs pc19:03
pcpcpcMonkeyDust: no, i didnt forgot it, i would like to change it19:05
PssBonsoir19:06
Pss!aide19:06
bazhang!fr | Pss19:06
ubottuPss: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.19:06
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JazayriIn firefox when i use google for searching anything.. when i comeback with theleft arrow i've got a blank page ! no search results are displayed19:07
pcpcpcMonkeyDust: Do you know how to change the Passphrase from ecryptfs, i have the old one.19:09
MonkeyDustpcpcpc  no, i was going to say you need the old one in order to successfully create a new19:10
IszakJazayri sounds more like a firefox / google issue than ubuntu, try #firefox19:10
Malice_hey guys, I would like to open video dvd with VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS files on it, I'm on Elementary OS, which is Ubuntu-derived...19:11
Malice_Any ideas?19:11
Malice_I tried "Open Disc/Directory" on VLC, but it doesn't work19:11
Malice_Same with Totem Video Player and Gnome Mplayer19:11
pcpcpcMonkeyDust: Okay :(19:11
JazayriIszak: yes you're right, it's more logic :)19:12
ppk_hello there19:12
Jazayrippk_: yo19:12
Malice_Anybody?19:12
MonkeyDustMalice_  maybe the people from elementary changed soemthing... better ask in their channel19:13
Malice_I would guess that I'm lacking some lib/codec, but well, I don't know19:13
Malice_okay, thanks...19:13
OerHeksMalice_, derivates are not supported, but your answer is here > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs19:13
ppk_I hope it won't be rude, but I've come here trying to find a solution to a problem I've been struggling with. I've obviously tried to google it, but to no avail19:13
Malice_THanks, OerHeks and MonkeyDust19:13
MonkeyDustasking a question is not rude19:14
MonkeyDustppk_  ^^^^^19:14
ppk_MonkeyDust, I've just thought that perhaps one should contribute first19:14
ppk_it's just that I'm a total noob :)19:14
bkuberekhello world19:15
ppk_I've just re-installed my Ubuntu. I mounted /home on my second partition. both permissions and ownership are right, but programs can't seem to be able to access /home19:15
esdeI cannot believe I have such headache with teamviewer and no one else19:16
ppk_I mean... I haven't really figured out the pattern. if I, say, save a file, "manually", it works. now, however, pulseaudio seems to have some kind of panic attack19:16
bkuberekAbout 3 weeks ago I got a Dell Optiplex 990 and install Ubuntu 12.04 desktop. I am having performance issues with the GUI. I posted it here: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on Dell Optiplex 990 - Performance issues <http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2193998>19:17
bkuberekAny one familiar witht the Dell Optiplex family and why I might be having UI problems?19:17
bkuberekThe server side of the machine is fine and it does play HD and Blueray movies19:17
ppk_It worked for some time after the install and now began to peep like crazy19:18
germanstudentHey, does someone know a twitter client for command line that supports line breaks in tweets? Or a workaround? I tried \n etc. with ttyter but still no success19:18
john_doe_jrIn the following location /dev/disk0s2 …what does the "s" in s2 stand for?19:21
ppk_MonkeyDust, rings a bell?19:21
pcpcpcDo you know how to change the Passphrase from ecryptfs, i do have the old one.19:21
pcpcpcDo you know how to change the mount Passphrase from ecryptfs , i have the old one, but no login passphrase! Please19:23
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esdeOk, since teamviewer for ubuntu is hit or miss. And now i can't get into my system via remote desktop... is there anyway to save the work I have open before rebooting via ssh? Please say there is, I don't want to have to wait another 2 and a half hours to use my desktop again :(19:25
Pessimistpcpcpc: ecrypt-rewrap-passphrase might do the trick19:26
suyash1629hi guys, i need help. from last few days i m unable to copy or place files from my phone, when i connect it i can see all the files located there but i m unable to copy file from there and also unable copy file into it. my cone is connected as digital audio player. few days back it was working and also in my friend pc with ubuntu its working but in my i get Error getting file: -6: Not Supported19:29
suyash1629i can view and check all file but i m unable to delete them copy them or add any file into it..19:29
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Psshelp19:33
Pss"I used ubuntu 13.10 when I turn on my pc I typed my password correct it wants not enter my session I do not know what to do!"19:34
IszakPss that is hard to identify the issue there.19:35
IszakPss perhaps try selecting a different GUI?19:35
TarasGIs there any way to edit the value of GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT from the grub shell that shows up when you misconfigure grub and it wont load? Or should i just get a live cd and reinstall it?19:37
Hydr0p0nXhold shift through boot sequence19:37
Hydr0p0nXselect the default boot option, hit e19:38
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TarasGDoesnt work, i still go to a bkack screen with GNU GRUB version whatever and a minimal bash-like shell19:40
suyash1629someone please help, i need to make it work anyhow.19:44
esdeHas anyone else experienced an issue wth Teamviewer on Ubuntu (12.04) dekstop, where TV works fine for a few days, and then suddenly inbound connection requests fail after ~90 seconds???19:45
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KurvivorHello19:54
Kurvivorhow do i install gnome 3.10?19:54
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OerHeks!nounity19:55
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, from 12.10 an up install the "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" package. From 11.04 to 12.04, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic19:55
Kurvivori do already have gnome 3.819:56
Kurvivorbut later verrsion is out19:56
applefanboy001macOS ++19:57
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KurvivorWhere can i unset shortcuts for language switch?20:08
MrJeromeComing from Premiere Pro, what is a comparable video editor for ubuntu? I need firewire capture, mulitple cameras, titles, and basic editing and transitions20:13
gordonjcpMrJerome: there really isn't a professional-grade video editing package on Linux yet20:14
gordonjcpMrJerome: you'd need the same sort of work as went into Ardour, and the same sort of industry backing20:14
gordonjcpMrJerome: that said, you could do worse than look at kdenlive20:14
roobixxSadly at the moment nothing is comparable to Premiere20:15
roobixxMight look at openshot....they seem to be gaining a lot of steam20:15
gordonjcpnot tried openshot for a while20:16
gordonjcphow's pitivi coming along?20:16
Calinou<gordonjcp> MrJerome: there really isn't a professional-grade video editing package on Linux yet20:18
Calinoufun fact: Blender can do video editing20:18
Calinouyou could try the Lightworks beta, maybe20:18
Calinou<roobixx> Sadly at the moment nothing is comparable to Premier20:18
Calinouyour opinino20:18
Calinouopininon*20:18
FloodBot1Calinou: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:18
Calinoufew people need what premiere does20:18
roobixxthat is true but the question was asked based on what Premiere does do.20:20
Calinoupeople like MrJerome won't have a fun time here, they can go back to their rich hobbies on OS X20:21
MrJeromeI'll try kdenlive and openshot. Trying to ditch windows at work and it seems that video editing is the last straw20:23
OerHekscheck ubuntu-studio > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageList20:24
Calinouubuntu-studio could make some stuff easier20:24
roobixxMrJerome: The only thing I still use windows/OSX is vidoe working Premiere and After Effects... Feel your pain20:24
gordonjcpalso KXStudio20:25
OerHeksgordonjcp +120:26
gordonjcpOerHeks: evening20:26
gordonjcpcomputers are terrible for trying to do audio or video on20:26
gordonjcpKXStudio has the distinction of *actually bloody working as advertised*20:27
gordonjcpbut I'm still sticking to my W30 for sequencing, 'cos there's still no good sequencer for Linux20:27
Calinouthere's no good sequencer for a kernel20:29
* Calinou rolls eyes20:29
MrJeromeHow about a good encoding tool?20:29
CalinouVLC, handbrake...20:30
Calinouffmpeg...20:30
Calinouyou have a lot of choices20:30
OerHeksdepends from .. to .. ?20:30
MrJeromeh26420:31
Calinouthey all support h26420:31
Calinou(which sucks for people in the US...)20:31
autoplayerhi. I have 2 partitions (1 with windows, 1 with data) and some unallocated space. If I install ubuntu alongside windows, it will use the unallocated partition?20:38
autoplayeror the partition with data20:38
MonkeyDust!arista20:38
MonkeyDust!info arista20:38
ubottuarista (source: arista): multimedia transcoder for the GNOME Desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.7-4 (saucy), package size 270 kB, installed size 1500 kB20:38
MonkeyDustautoplayer  the installer let's you choose20:39
MonkeyDustlets*20:39
mar77ihello #uuntu. I'm having a weird problem with unity not loading anything in a reasonable amount of time...20:39
onetinsoldierautoplayer: when the installer comes to setting up your hd partitions for linux, you can choose "something else" to make sure the unallocated space is selected20:39
mar77i*#ubuntu20:39
autoplayeronetinsoldier: and it will dualboot after if I choose that?20:40
FranktheTankHey all. I was wondering if anyone has knowledge as to how to install the android composite ADB interface on ubuntu?20:40
mar77ido you have any advice on what I should try to see programs listed after a little time?20:40
onetinsoldierautoplayer: you'll have a few different options to choose from, choose "something else", select the unallocated space to install linux on, and then yes, it will dual-boot20:41
autoplayeronetinsoldier: ok. thanks20:41
TRoGd0R@mar77i: You could open up a terminal and type top20:42
mar77iTRoGd0R: I can't run a terminal, because it doesn't show up in the dash20:43
mar77ithe knob there goes round for forever...20:44
mar77ithat's the problem.20:44
TRoGd0RTry to press Ctrl + Alt + T20:45
bonnehi i have a little trouble finding Drive routines to Radeon HD 6370m, can anyone rackomedera a good wed site?20:45
blebI want to maintain a bootable copy of my main drive as a backup. What's the simplest way to do this via the command line?20:46
mar77ithere's no process particularly using resources.20:46
mar77iall I can tell dash doesn't find anything20:46
mar77icpu is on ~6.5%, ram on about 40% with cac he 60...20:47
mar77iwhich amounts to about a gig.20:47
glitsj16mar77i: did you uninstall certain unity related packages perhaps? like unity-lens-applications for example?20:48
mar77ino? I can go and reinstall that particular one.20:48
MonkeyDust!info bootcdbackup | bleb havent tried this myself, but may be what you're looking for20:48
ubottubleb havent tried this myself, but may be what you're looking for: Package bootcdbackup does not exist in saucy20:48
glitsj16mar77i: that in particular is 'in charge' of launching and installing applications .. maybe not a bad place to start20:49
onetinsoldier!info bootcd20:50
ubottubootcd (source: bootcd): run your system from cd without need for disks. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.00 (saucy), package size 103 kB, installed size 420 kB20:50
MonkeyDustbleb  remastersys perhaps20:50
CarlFKanyone know of a nifty ping grapher?  trying to view stats on the crapy cable modem behavior that keeps bouncing between good and complete garbage every 30 min or so20:50
onetinsoldierBuild an image of your running Debian System with the command bootcdwrite.20:50
Kurvivorгигтег 13ю10 икщлу дфтпгфпу ыцшесрштп20:50
Kurvivorubuntu 13.10 broke language switching20:51
Kurvivorhow can i remove language switch shortcut?20:51
KrenairI'm trying to get Nautilus to copy something like almost 390GB to a new drive. But as it's preparing to copy it thinks it's got at least 403GB of files, and that number is going up20:51
MonkeyDustKrenair  yes, better use rsync for such large files20:51
Krenair(The partition it's copying from is only 400GB big)20:51
KrenairMonkeyDust, rsync for huge directories across one machine?20:52
MonkeyDustKrenair  yes20:52
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blebI imagine creating the initial backup should be easy (couldn't I just use dd?); the next issue would be how to make efficient future backups, e.g. only updating directories that have changed.20:52
KrenairMonkeyDust, alex@alex:/$ sudo rsync / /media/AlexsNewDrive --exclude=/media/*20:54
Krenairskipping directory .20:54
Krenairalex@alex:/$20:54
MonkeyDustbleb  you too,  it's called incremental backup, you can do that with rsync20:54
Krenairwhat?20:54
jeff_hello?20:55
bonnehi i have a little trouble finding Drive routines to Radeon HD 6370m, can anyone recommend a good web site? how I should proceed20:55
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mar77iglitsj16: anything that could be out of date in the config I could look for? this is an upgraded trusty20:55
blebMonkeyDust: thanks, I was thinking maybe rsync. I guess I'll read the man page.20:56
onetinsoldiermar77i: are you running "trusty"?20:57
bonnehi i have a little trouble finding Drive routines to Radeon HD 6370m, can anyone recommend a good web site? how I should proceed20:58
mar77ihmm.20:58
mar77iyes?20:58
ramborockssorry20:59
mar77iyou're probably going to point me to +1 now?20:59
onetinsoldiermar77i: i am also running trusty. i think the ubuntu/compiz desktop is under heavy development right now and fairly, broken shall i say? anyway, you might try the channel #ubuntu+120:59
mar77iI know.20:59
mar77ias I said :)20:59
KrZPi920:59
ramborocksi cant get my permissions changed in ubuntu 13.1021:00
ramborocksmy harddrive wont let me change permissions for my external21:01
KrenairAny idea MonkeyDust?21:02
FranktheTankramborocks: use sudo21:02
ramborocksim not sure of the command i would use i been trying in gui21:02
MonkeyDustKrenair  ?21:03
FranktheTankramborocks: learn to use terminal. and learn to use google. Google, "How to change permissions of external hd ubuntu terminal"21:03
KrenairMonkeyDust, I tried to rsync but it just said "skipping directory ."21:03
onetinsoldiermar77i: i'm using KDE in trusty since the ubuntu desktop seems to be under heavy development and broken at this time.21:03
ramborocksfrank you broke google21:04
onetinsoldiermar77i: kde 4.12.0 was released pretty recently.21:04
ramborocksYour search - "How to change permissions of external hd ubuntu terminal" - did not match any documents.21:04
FranktheTankramborocks: hold on21:04
ramborocksi took the quotes out21:04
ramborocksbut just showing you for lol21:04
mar77ionetinsoldier: as I said in +1 (mind joining so I don't have to keep xposting), my friend is pretty much familiar with gnome-shell, which is installed on this machine and ready.21:05
MonkeyDustKrenair  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync21:05
onetinsoldiermar77i: sure, but i don't know that i can be of much help, but sure21:05
IszakWhere can I download ubuntu over HTTPS?21:05
FranktheTankramborocks: http://bit.ly/1dFUpDR21:06
mar77iIszak: how about you only get the checksum over https?21:06
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ramborockslol21:06
Iszakmar77i I'd rather both.21:06
FranktheTankramborocks: lol21:06
ramborocksthanks frank21:07
FranktheTankramborocks: i get lots of results21:07
FranktheTankramborocks: did that bring up any results for you?21:07
mar77iso your boss doesn't see you downloaded ubuntu? don't your dns lookups compromise you already?21:07
Iszakmar77i no, we use ubuntu so it's okay, just for security.21:07
mar77ibut you do have the security if the checksums match.21:08
ramborocksyes frank21:08
FranktheTankawesome21:08
ramborocksim sorting through the gibberish now21:08
Iszakmar77i I want more.21:08
FranktheTankramborocks: yeah it's annoying to get used to. but once you get the hang of it then it makes figuring out issues easier than coming here. It also makes you self reliant xD21:09
SaberX01There's no reason to send the ISO or the MD5 over https .. Ive' not seen any morrirs doing it nut they may be out there somewhere.21:09
SaberX01*but ... .21:09
mar77iIszak: look. https is wasted cycles on both sides, and what's the added security if https is mainly not designed for data integrity but rather garbling throughput for the outside world?21:10
FranktheTankramborocks: after a while, if you cannot figure it out, then I can walk you through it21:10
mar77iif the checksums match, your iso image is authentic. read up on what https does, man, you shouldn't even trust ca certs too much...21:11
Iszakwhat about if something manipulates the iso image and check sum?21:11
Calinoujust saying, but packages in Ubuntu itself are signed.21:12
Calinou(if that is relevant)21:12
MonkeyDustIszak  please don't start, such conspiracy theories are nice for #ubuntu-offtopic21:12
Calinouyou can also encrypt an Ubuntu install21:12
mar77i:D21:12
FranktheTankIszak, mar77i: I don't mean to butt in...but why are we discussing security?21:12
IszakMonkeyDust conspiracy? please, look at the snowden leaks.21:12
MonkeyDustIszak  great, but not in this channel21:12
IszakFranktheTank I just want to receive my iso over HTTPS21:12
Calinousnowden leaks have nothing to do21:12
IszakIt's a simple request, is it possible or not.21:12
mar77ibut even if creating the same md5 is HARD it doesn't mean it wouldn't BREAK a bootable ISO21:13
FranktheTankiszak: https doesn't do much if someone is stripping it 0_o21:13
FranktheTankwhich the nsa can do, if you want to be paranoid21:13
Iszakmar77i creating the same md5 is easy.21:14
SaberX01Iszak, it is possible, yes it's possible, however, the probability is astronomical.21:14
ramborocksim trying to see what my partition uuid is with sudo blkid21:14
ramborocksbut it does not bring results21:14
mar77iIszak: if it calms you down, ubuntu.com is 91.189.94.15621:14
FranktheTankramborocks: pm me. I'll walk you through it21:15
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IszakI recommend everyone uses sha25621:15
ramborockslol21:15
MonkeyDustramborocks  try with sudo21:15
FranktheTankramborocks: type /query FranktheTank21:15
SaberX01If your that worried about the On-line ISO, Order the CD's from Canonical21:16
* Calinou has never checked a ISO he uses...21:16
Calinouit always worked though :/21:16
Calinoucould have issues too21:16
CalinouCDs don't have 0% failure rate21:16
mar77idns isn't totally easy to forge, isos the less and if you don't want to rely on dns ins sources.list, package signing actually does the rest21:17
FranktheTankramborocks: see my pm21:18
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raptor121test21:33
xangua!test | raptor12121:33
ubotturaptor121: Testing... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use /join #test )21:33
raptor121oh, sry :) still new to the irc stuff21:34
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tortibI tried to install the debs from their installer but I keep getting this error:21:38
tortibError! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.11.0-13-generic (x86_64)21:38
RookHello! i type and replace the forward letters, do anyone know how turn off? ty!21:38
Rookanyone?21:40
tortibhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6641958/ is the error log21:40
tortibcan anyone help me with my ATI HD Radeon 7950 3D Acceleration problem?21:42
tortibI'm running 13.0421:45
tortibIt's a supported version and I would like 3D acceleration on my video card.21:46
tortibcan someone please help?21:46
Hydr0p0nXwhat's the problem ?21:46
tortibwell i'm using the fglrx driver from the repo and i don't have 3d acceleration21:47
tortibso I downloaded the ATI drives from their website and I get an error when trying to build the module21:47
tortibhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6641958/ is the error log21:47
tortibI built the packages (debs) for Saucy too using their script21:48
tortibI don't know C very well so I don't know why i'm getting this error21:48
tgm4883tortib, where did you download the drivers from/what drivers did you download?21:49
tortibfrom AMD.com21:49
tortibi also get these warnings when installing the debs from amd.com21:49
tortibhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6641958/21:49
tortibwoops21:49
tortibupdate-alternatives: warning: forcing reinstallation of alternative /usr/lib/fglrx/ld.so.conf because link group x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf is broken21:49
tortibupdate-alternatives: warning: forcing reinstallation of alternative /usr/lib/fglrx/ld.so.conf because link group x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf is broken21:49
FloodBot1tortib: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.21:49
tortibsorry about the flood :x21:49
Wh4tTheFvkPicture of my whore ex-girlfriend naked: http://imgchili.net/show/43408/43408275_image.jpg21:57
Wh4tTheFvkPicture of my whore ex-girlfriend naked: http://imgchili.net/show/43408/43408275_image.jpg21:57
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tortibcan anyone help me with ATI 3D Acceleration? please?21:58
SaberX01maybe try in the ATI channel ..21:59
Gnea!ati | tortib22:00
ubottutortib: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto22:00
tortibGnea: will that give me 3D Acceleration as well?22:00
glitsj16tortib: i can't explain why you get the errors, but have you tried the xorg edgers PPA yet?22:00
Gneatortib: perhaps.  I'm an nvidia guy, I don't do ati.22:00
SaberX01Ditto22:01
tortibGnea I tried using the binary drives from amd.com site and i get a build error on the fglrx module.22:01
Gneatortib: but others have found success with it, so it's worth looking into.22:01
tortibglitsj16: no I haven't22:01
tortibGnea: i've read this before.22:01
tortibIt's a bit outdated as Xorg doesn't use xorg.conf anymore22:01
Gneatortib: well, from what I understand, if you're trying to use source that's not from the ubuntu repositories, since it's setup to accomodate ubuntu, then you might break something22:02
tortibthe ATI settings are controlled by the catalyst control center22:02
tortibGnea: the source drives don't support 3d acceleration...22:02
Gneatortib: actually xorg.conf is still used, just not by default - you can drop one into /etc/X11/ and if it's there, it will read it first22:02
tortibwell they do22:02
tortibbut they're very very slow22:02
Eleirshello all!22:02
Gneatortib: what card do you have, exactly?22:02
tortibokay I'll repeat myself again22:03
tortibIt's an ATI HD Radeon 795022:03
glitsj16tortib: if your comfortable with adding a PPA and know how to use ppa-purge you can try that at least, they have similar or even newer versions for fglrx on raring/saucy --> https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa22:03
Gneaokay22:03
tortibglitsj16: i already have that ppa added to my repo22:03
tortibI just don't know how to use those drivers22:03
tortibs/drivers/modules22:04
Gneatortib: it looks like it has an updated fglrx driver that you can install via apt22:04
glitsj16tortib: if you already have them, why not check in the 'additional drivers' tab in software sources that they are activated? shouldn't be much more than that22:04
Gneatortib: so that PPA could be what you need22:04
uBUXUBuhi22:05
Con7ehello kind people!22:05
Gneatortib: this goes back to what I told you about ubuntu-specific packaging of drivers. if you've got anything installed directly from ati/amd's site, you should remove it and try this ppa22:05
Gnea!ppa22:06
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge22:06
t0ntinHi, all! I updated  a browser called srware iron. Nothing happens now after I double click on the icon. Any way I can use this program again?22:06
tortibGnea: perhaps you're missing the point the drivers from ubuntus repository do NOT have 3D acceleration22:06
Gneaalso, that URL from the !ppa from ubottu is broken :-)22:06
tortibi'm using them currently22:06
Gneatortib: do you not understand what a PPA is?22:06
tortibyes I do22:06
Con7eI need some help understanding Pacemaker/Corosync22:06
Gneathen you shouldn't be telling me that I'm the one missing the point22:07
glitsj16tortib: they are the proprietary drivers in that PPA, they should have 3D accel22:07
Con7eI usually run Pacemaker/Heartbeat22:07
berndQUIT22:07
patmaddoxI updated the LC_ALL locale var using "sudo update-locale LC_ALL=en_US.utf8" – I have to log out and log back for the variables to take effect when I run "locale" with no args. Is there a way to reload the LC_* env vars from the command-line after setting LC_ALL with locale?22:07
tortibglitsj16: yeah i'm switching to them now22:07
tortibi'll see if they work22:08
Fudgehi are their known issues using motherboards with VIA sound with Ubuntu22:08
GneaFudge: they're known to work, usually22:09
Fudgemaybe this persons is muted or something then22:10
SaberX01patmaddox, I think, after you make the changes, to tricker them: sudo locale-gen22:10
GneaFudge: who?22:10
SaberX01*trigger22:10
patmaddoxSaberX01: unfortunately not :\22:11
SaberX01patmaddox, man locale  next then22:12
patmaddoxSaberX01: yeah...nothin there. The best info I found is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale which has "Note: changes take effect only after a fresh login."22:13
SaberX01patmaddox, that's not so bad, much better than a re-boot.22:14
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patmaddoxSaberX01: eh not helpful really. I'm doing this in a chef script so I need it to just work. They're just environment variables so I can't imagine it's all that difficult...just gotta find where they get set22:15
Avner0foo bar22:16
Avner0foo22:16
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SaberX01patmaddox, well id' suggest you look at /etc/default/locale and / or ~/.pam_environment and red up on how to use them.22:19
SaberX01*read22:19
patmaddoxSaberX01: thanks :)  I get environment variables and have /etc/default/locale set up how I want...just wondering how I can reset the LC_* env vars appropriately based on the new contents of /ect/default/locale ... without logging out and back in22:23
pyrobisqitis Dovecot the best IMAP server?22:24
MonkeyDustif you like it, then yes, pyrobisqit22:24
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Lexr2004hello22:26
onetinsoldierhi22:26
Guest26571hi22:27
Con7eI need some help understanding Pacemaker/Corosync22:28
Con7eI usually run Pacemaker/heartbeat22:28
u2Pf2nHi22:29
ScratI need help with my Ipod touch 4th gen and putting music onto it.22:29
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Guest34020I need help with my Ipod touch 4th gen and putting music onto it.22:30
MonkeyDust!ipod | Guest34020 start here22:30
ubottuGuest34020 start here: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod22:30
mrpanda:)22:32
mrpanda!mp3 |format22:32
ubottuformat: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html  - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats22:32
hans__hi guys22:33
mrpandahey22:33
onetinsoldierhowdy22:33
Avner0hello22:39
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CeraphinHi22:43
onetinsoldierhowdy22:43
* Avner0 foo122:43
CeraphinIs there anyone who had tried Ubuntu touch on nexus 7 3G?22:43
* Avner0 thinks this is fun!22:44
SaberX01Ceraphin, maybe #ubuntu-touch better channel for that question22:45
Ceraphinyeah just found it22:45
Ceraphinthanks SaberX0122:46
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jhutchinsCeraphin: I thought there were only two versions of the nexus 722:48
Ceraphin2011/201322:49
Ceraphinand Wifi / Wifi+3G22:50
xsiHow to make single-level openbox menu? via menu.xml I've wrote <item> without <menu> and only 1st work - lxterminal.22:50
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sideup66hello room22:55
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sideup66is there any way i can get some help with xubuntu 12.04, i asked in that room and i think the entire room collectively took a nap oO22:56
cihhan_hi all22:57
gvosideup66: just ask a question.22:57
sideup66but in any event, I have a netgear wna1000m wifi dongle, it works just fine out of the box, however, upon a warm restart of the pc (not powering off) it will boot up and show "disabled by hardware switch" but a poweroff and the device seems to work perfectly fine22:57
sideup66is there a way to get ubuntu to see that the device is still on and awake22:57
cihhan_im trying to install ubuntu 12.04 server to a dell desktop but after the installation, when i reboot the machine, it freezes. What I read from the screen is fsck from util-linux 2.20.122:57
cihhan_any suggestions?22:57
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WhatIsTheMatrixcihhan_: you keep getting that if you reboot? you keep getting the fsck message? or have you rebooted since it ran the fsck?22:59
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cihhan_WhatIsTheMatrix, that s what I get from the screen -- it shows some info very fast and then this one and it freezes23:01
sideup66does it make any sense also that lsusb shows the device name on the usb port then shows [Realtek RTL 8188CUS23:01
sideup66}23:01
WhatIsTheMatrixcihhan_: so you have tried to reboot since it ran the fsck then?23:02
WhatIsTheMatrixcihhan_: in other words, you keep trying to reboot and you keep getting this problem?23:02
cihhan_yes i reboot and when it comes there, the same screen, it freezes23:02
WhatIsTheMatrixcihhan_: sounds bad23:03
cihhan_WhatIsTheMatrix,oohh after this one when I reboot, it shows data23:03
WhatIsTheMatrixoh?23:03
WhatIsTheMatrixcihhan_: you mean it's booting now? or?23:03
cihhan_WhatIsTheMatrix, it says Adding NUMBERS wasp on /dev/sda2. Priority:-1 extentx:1 across: NUMBERS23:03
cihhan_WhatIsTheMatrix, nope it s not booting yet23:03
WhatIsTheMatrixcihhan_: you used an installer cd/dvd to install ubuntu?23:04
cihhan_WhatIsTheMatrix, yes a CD23:04
WhatIsTheMatrixcihhan_: don't know that i can help much. but can you boot up into that live installer cd again right now?23:05
glitsj16sideup66: have you checked with 'rfkill list' what it states for the dongle when it works versus when it boots with that hardware disabled message ?23:07
sideup66no I actually havent23:08
sideup66so I would reboot the system then run rfkill list23:08
glitsj16sideup66: just a thought to get a clearer view on what might be the issue .. i'd try to run that command twice yes, one when it works ok vs when it doesn't23:09
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fpghost84I have a Radeon HD 8670M Hybrid card and upon installation Ubuntu installed the proprietary fglrx drivers (I guess because the open source don't support my card, so jockey installed the AMD ones). The system seems to run OK, but I can a strange error in "x-0.log": FATAL: Module fglrx not found. Also modinfo fglrx says could not find. Although bizarrely "lsmod | grep fglrx" shows it. What's going here?23:10
sideup66ok, i can run it now then reboot and report back23:10
sideup66ok at the moment, it returns: softkill no23:11
glitsj16sideup66: there's an init job that saves/restores the rfkill state on boot/shutdown (look in /etc/init) so it might be saving the state wrongly23:11
sideup66hardkill: no23:11
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glitsj16sideup66: that's what you should get when it works yesregular when it works23:11
glitsj16*typos srry23:11
cihhan_WhatIsTheMatrix, I will try that way as well23:12
glitsj16sideup66:  /var/lib/rfkill/saved-state holds the state value, so run that too in each case23:13
sideup66ok, let me take a look at that23:13
cihhan_WhatIsTheMatrix, very interestingly when I run the safe mode and then say continue (without doing anything) it works23:13
WhatIsTheMatrixcihhan_: if you boot up to the cd i think you might be able to run some commands to try and get some insight into the problem23:13
WhatIsTheMatrixcihhan_: okay. interesting23:13
fpghost84also I get: aticonfig -pxl ....."aticonfig: No supported adapters detected"23:14
sideup66hmmm23:14
sideup66/var/lib/rfkill/saved-state shows permission denied...even as room23:14
sideup66root23:14
glitsj16sideup66: odd23:14
Fatimah_a lot of users :P23:15
sideup66got it23:15
glitsj16sideup66: let me check here what permissions should be, give me a minute23:15
sideup66nevermind, i didnt use cat at first :/23:15
glitsj16sideup66: ah okay23:15
WhatIsTheMatrixcihhan_: you could try safe mode, then select the fsck option and see what happens with that23:15
sideup66ok it prints phy1 and phy4 at 023:15
ne0_hi23:16
glitsj16sideup66: perhaps paste the whole output in a pastebin somewhere, like  paste.ubuntu.com and put the url you get in here23:16
sideup66ok, hang on23:16
WhatIsTheMatrixfpghost84: after the fglrx driver got installed, did you run the command to 'initialize' it? --> aticonfig --initial23:17
sideup66not much to see but... http://paste.ubuntu.com/6642455/23:17
WhatIsTheMatrixfpghost84: let me change that command -->  sudo aticonfig --initial23:17
sideup66there it is with the wifi working23:17
glitsj16sideup66: thx, having a look23:17
WhatIsTheMatrixfpghost84: then after doing that, you have to reboot23:17
sideup66and here is rfkill list23:19
sideup66http://paste.ubuntu.com/6642458/23:19
sideup66yes, the machine has a built in adapter as well, which I do keep the hardware switch on turned off (just an old g adapter)23:19
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fpghost84WhatIsTheMatrix, I didn't run that command because as I say Ubuntu (or jockey) installed the fglrx driver itself on installing Ubuntu a few days ago. Do I still need to run that command? I thought it was just for when you install the Binary drivers directly from the AMD site?23:20
glitsj16sideup66: these look okay, the issue should show itself somehow on warm reboot, so if you could, paste those too, from both commands together, shouldn't be long outputs23:20
fpghost84Is it just to generate my xorg file? Can I check in that file if the relevant bits are already there?23:21
WhatIsTheMatrixfpghost84: yes, i'm pretty certain you will need to run that command. why they don't just have that command run as part of the installation script, also telling you that you'll need to reboot, i don't know23:21
sideup66ok, ill have to warm reboot at this point23:21
sideup66ill brb23:21
glitsj16okay23:21
WhatIsTheMatrixfpghost84: yes. it's to generate and ATI xorg file. it'll replace the one you have now23:22
WhatIsTheMatrixfpghost84: you could check it now23:22
fpghost84Just to double check before I do this: my xorg.conf already has some mentions of "ATI Proprietary Driver" etc23:23
WhatIsTheMatrixfpghost84: then i would tend to think you already have an ati xorg file23:23
fpghost84also fglxinfo gives info about my AMD Radeon23:23
WhatIsTheMatrixmine has the same line...23:23
fpghost84but as I say modinfo fglrx gives nothing23:24
AzertyuiopGreetings #ubuntu. I own a optimus nvidia card. I downloaded blumbleblee to be able to use my 650m. However, i still experiencing some very serious tearing effects on my screen. Anyone would have a hint about how to proceed to resolve the problem ? thanks !23:24
fpghost84I guess it couldn't hurt to run that line, and back up my curren xorg.conf, and see the diff23:25
WhatIsTheMatrixfpghost84: how about? --> glxinfo | grep rendering23:25
fpghost84"direct rendering Yes"23:25
WhatIsTheMatrixfpghost84: maybe you don't have OpenGL installed, the opengl libraries and utils23:25
Azertyuiopalso optirun ./glxspheres64 will kind off crash23:25
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WhatIsTheMatrixfpghost84: do you have this installed? --> mesa-common-dev23:27
fpghost84No, don't have that23:28
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V8Energyrsync -r . root@xxx.xx.xx.xx:/var/chef       <-- how do i specify port number for this command?23:29
WhatIsTheMatrixand this --> you don't have opengl installed. install that as well as libglu1-mesa and libglu1-mesa-dev23:29
sideup66ok and I am back23:30
sideup66here is the output from a bad boot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6642509/23:30
sideup66for some reason the hard switch becomes set (?)23:30
fpghost84OK, installed mesa-common-dev, libglu1-mesa, and libglu1-mes-dev23:30
fpghost84How to check if opengl installed?23:30
sideup66could the internal adapter's switch have somthing to do with it?23:30
WhatIsTheMatrixfpghost84: i'm not certain that installing just those will completely install opengl, but it's a start if not23:31
glitsj16sideup66: seemingly yes, but it would help to see why it does that .. while you were rebooting i had a look on a few bugs, let me have a look at the pastes and get back to you23:31
WhatIsTheMatrixfpghost84: try the command --> glxinfo | grep rendering23:32
fpghost84yes tried, it was gave rendering Yes23:32
WhatIsTheMatrixfpghost84: does it say?  --> direct rendering: Yes23:32
WhatIsTheMatrixfpghost84: okay. you might have opengl installed then23:33
u2Pf2nwhois u2Pf2n23:33
glitsj16sideup66: let me add, i'm not an expert on this, but first thing i see is different assignments of your wifi: phy0 and phy1versus phy0 and phy2 in the state file23:34
sideup66ok23:34
glitsj16sideup66: might be normal but looks odd23:34
WhatIsTheMatrixfpghost84: you mgith want to check that you have these installed as well... libgl1-mesa-dri libdri2-dev23:34
sideup66different assignments? I know like I said there is a internal card which my mind would want disabled... only the usb dongle should be connected23:34
fpghost84So what confuses me is why modinfo fglrx gives nothing, and why I get the error in x-0.log about "FATAL: Module fglrx not found."...yet why does lsmod list fglrx23:35
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fpghost84WhatIsTheMatrix OK I didn't but have now23:35
Guest54932hi ,please how to install VMware player on linux '? bundle23:36
glitsj16sideup66: have you tried unblocking the device yet by running rfkill unblock phy1 and see if that changes anything?23:36
WhatIsTheMatrixfpghost84: okay. i'm not sure about your question about that command. i get output from..  modinfo fglrx23:36
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fpghost84modinfo fglrx :ERROR: modinfo: could not find module fglrx23:37
sideup66no, I never was familiar with rfkill23:37
ramborocksim trying to give read / write command whats wrong with this : top:/media/Juggernaunt1# chmod -R +rw /dev/sdc123:37
fpghost84is what I get. Yet "lsmod | grep fglrx" finds references23:37
WhatIsTheMatrixfpghost84: hmmm23:37
glitsj16sideup66: the inbuilt might be interfering, perhaps try 'blocking' it by rfkill block command instead of the hardware switch23:37
ramborocksi get this root@RamboDesktop:/media/Juggernaunt1# ls -l23:37
ramborockstotal 023:37
sideup66and I have to run at the moment, unfortunately :( but I will check into this after23:37
sideup66and will do23:37
glitsj16sideup66: if you post a question on the forum later i'll post the links and what i can make of it23:38
sideup66ok, ill probably be back in an hour or so anyway23:38
sideup66shouldnt be long23:38
WhatIsTheMatrixfpghost84: i don't know. what does   lspci | grep ATI   show?23:38
sideup66I do appreciate the help :)23:38
glitsj16ah okay, i'll probably be hanging around here, no trouble23:39
WhatIsTheMatrixfpghost84: what kind of ati card do you have?23:40
fpghost84lspci | grep ATI23:40
fpghost8406:00.0 Display controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Sun XT [Radeon HD 8670A/8670M/8690M]23:40
sybaritensooo....23:40
sideup66ok ill be back23:40
fpghost84WhatIsTheMatrix it's a Radeon HD 8670M23:40
sybariteni'm having some apt-get problems on my virtual servier, that im renting.23:40
Lunar_LanderBhello, I moved to Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit :)!23:40
WhatIsTheMatrixfpghost84: that a really new card?23:40
WhatIsTheMatrixfpghost84: really new ati architecture? recently released card by ati?23:41
fpghost84Yes, quite I suppose, but the release notes on the AMD website (at least for the most recent catakyst driver) show support for it23:41
sybaritenunfortunately im getting the error msgs in swedish... but it says something along tyhe lines of 404 .... whats my best way of analyzing and solving?23:41
Lunar_LanderBquestion: shall I reformat my second harddrive from ext3 to ext4 now that I use x64?23:42
sybariten404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.200 80]23:42
h0rrorvacuiI'm writing a job configuration for upstart that executes a shell script that then launches a tmux session. I need to be able to stop the script in a certain way but I don't know what to do. Does anyone know what expect stanza if any I need to use?23:42
sybaritenperhaps i need to edit my sources list somehow23:42
tgm4883h0rrorvacui, usually I just test it and see what PID upstart is reporting vs what PID you actually want to track. They should be the same23:43
WhatIsTheMatrixfpghost84: i hear you. it could be linux kernel issue with fglrx driver since the card is so new. but i don't know. you could keep asking and see if anyone knows about the 'modinfo fglrx' command issue23:43
ramborockshow come i get this error? root@RamboDesktop:/media/Juggernaunt1# chmod o+r /dev/sdc123:43
ramborocksroot@RamboDesktop:/media/Juggernaunt1# ls -l23:43
ramborockstotal 023:43
michael__Hello23:44
WhatIsTheMatrixhi23:44
fpghost84WhatIsTheMatrix, thanks. The second issue is that I see "FATAL: Module fglrx not found." in my /var/log/lightdm/x-0.log" not sure if it a problem or what23:44
michael__Where do I go to report bugs in ubuntu?23:44
Teleporthello, once I attached my usb drive I got auto-mount, but other times not23:44
fpghost84or if the two issues are related23:44
Teleportits a 8g mp3player NTFS23:45
WhatIsTheMatrixfpghost84: yeah. that seems weird too. have you looked at, not the lightdm log, but this one? --> /var/log/Xorg.0.log23:45
michael__@fpghost84 fglrx is the driver required for amd graphics cards23:45
h0rrorvacuitgm4883 I'll try and make sure again but I don't think its tracking the right PID.23:46
tgm4883h0rrorvacui, then it's probably tracking a PID that is a few before the actual PID right?23:46
michael__Where do I go to report bugs in ubuntu?23:47
Teleporthello, once I attached my usb drive I got auto-mount, but other times not, its a 8g mp3player NTFS23:47
Rory!bugs | michael__23:47
ubottumichael__: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.23:47
michael__ok, thank you23:47
mrpanda:)23:48
h0rrorvacuitgm4883, I'll check23:48
fpghost84WhatIsTheMatrix: Doesn't seem to be any strange mentions of fglrx there, just says that it is loading it. One slightly oddline afterwards is " Falling back to old probe method for fglrx"23:48
WhatIsTheMatrixfpghost84: i get that same message about falling back to old probe method. i guess i'd ignore the message in the lightdm log23:49
michael__ubuntu-bug wants to know the package name, but it is a problem with ubuntu itself23:49
mrpanda:)23:49
mrpandathe matrixis Wu23:49
WhatIsTheMatrixis what?23:50
WhatIsTheMatrixWu? hehe23:50
Teleporthe23:50
Teleportguys anyone knows about NTFS flash drives??!23:50
tab1293what's a good xml viewer that supports large files, hierarchical views and sorting based on tag value?23:50
WhatIsTheMatrixis Wu chinese for You?23:50
michael__@Teleport, can you be more specific?23:51
Teleportmichael__, once I attached my usb drive I got auto-mount, but other times not, its a 8g mp3player NTFS23:51
uBUXUBuflash drives can be formatted to ntfs yes23:51
uBUXUBubetter off using fat23:52
TeleportuBUXUBu got data atm23:52
michael__if it does not show in unity, try the command lsusb and see if it shows23:52
WhatIsTheMatrixfpghost84: since you have OpenGL installed now, you might try to see if opengl stuff works. you'll might need to restart x-windows first23:52
fpghost84WhatIsTheMatrix: I found a thread about the modinfo thing: http://xmodulo.com/2013/09/how-to-check-graphics-card-on-linux.html, in the comments some says you can't type modinfo fglrx_pci, bother open source and proprietary require "modinfo radeon"23:52
h0rrorvacuiokay the problem is it isn't tracking anything it is running like a task instead of a service job so I'm just not getting this.23:52
ROPAI have an ubuntu (gnome 3) 13.10 installation with 2 different sound cards, one sound card drives speakers and one drives headphones. I can't figure out how to direct audio that is application specific however.....I want video games and internet phone calls to use the headphones sound system and IRC chat and browser programs to use the speakers. What sound utility program do I need to use so I can custom configure each programs audio23:52
ROPA output to use a specific sound card???23:52
fpghost84WhatIsTheMatrix what kind of openGL stuff to test?23:53
h0rrorvacuiI need a way to track a tmux session like it was a service with upstart.23:53
h0rrorvacuiCould I do a job that just ends the tmux jobs gracefully on a shutdown?23:54
WhatIsTheMatrixfpghost84: i think the "modinfo radeon" would be for if you're using the open source radeon driver23:54
fpghost84well, the comment says either23:54
WhatIsTheMatrixfpghost84: have you restarted X?23:54
WhatIsTheMatrixfpghost84: okay, roger that23:55
Teleportmichael__ I dont find that but I can see datas as th usb flash drive has a led23:55
fpghost84WhatIsTheMatrix: not yet, I'll go restart now, what openGL tests then?23:55
WhatIsTheMatrixfpghost84: xscreensaver has some opengl stuff. i think maybe you can try.. glxgears too.23:56
Teleportmichael__ any solution?23:56
michael__@Teleport, is this an actual flash drive or an embedded drive in a different device, such  as a phone?23:56
fpghost84Ah, I've already tried glxgears and flgrxgears, and use xscreensaver , so guess that tells me I had openGL already :\23:56
Teleportmichael__ NTFS mp3player23:57
fpghost84sorry, I should have realised23:57
michael__@Teleport, it could be a driver issue then23:57
WhatIsTheMatrixfpghost84: okay. if a "compositing" window manager works and/or opengl screensavers, then i think your good23:57
WhatIsTheMatrixfpghost84: don't know what to make of the modinfo fglrx issue though23:58
Teleportmichael__ at the first attach ubuntu auto-mounted!23:58
fpghost84WhatIsTheMatrix: OK. Should I file a bug to the AMD Bugzilla or something?23:58
Teleportmichael__ after restart I cant mount it anymore23:58
michael__@Teleport did you eject it by right clicking and pressing eject or just pull it out?23:59
Teleportmichael__ just restarted23:59
michael__And it works on windows?23:59
Teleportmichael__ without eject23:59
fpghost84WhatIsTheMatrix: or maybe I should try the aticonfig --initial for the hell of it anyway23:59
Teleportmichael__ dont have win atm :S23:59
WhatIsTheMatrixfpghost84: i don't know for certain. perhaps. or, is it an issue with the linux kernel/modinfo?23:59
michael__Restarting should have synced any filesystems anyway23:59

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