[00:00] <hitsujiTMO> helo_n: it should be there. starts with linux ends with quiet splash
[00:00] <hitsujiTMO> helo_n: just add it after quiet splash
[00:01] <adas> hitsujiTMO: if I apt-get remove rtorrent, will it remove many other programs that I also need?
[00:01] <helo_n> right now it says quiet splash $vt_handoff
[00:01] <hitsujiTMO> adas: it shouldn't
[00:01] <helo_n> after $vt_handoff?
[00:01] <Lunar_Lander> ah one more thing, wasn't there a Hash page on the ubuntu download page?
[00:02] <Lunar_Lander> where I could see the hashes for the ISO file
[00:02] <hitsujiTMO> helo_n: before $vt_hanoff
[00:02] <hitsujiTMO> Lunar_Lander: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[00:02] <kostkon> adas, chances are close to zero
[00:02] <helo_n> and then F10 to boot?
[00:03] <hitsujiTMO> helo_n: yups
[00:03] <Lunar_Lander> thanks hitsujiTMO
[00:03] <adas> kostkon: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6636789/ I got scared of the list it showed
[00:03] <helo_n> back at the command prompt
[00:04] <kostkon> adas, it's normal. you can do sudo apt-get autoremove to get rid of them, if you don't need any of those packages
[00:04] <helo_n> btw, is there an easy way to tag someone's username in xchat?
[00:04] <adas> kostkon: ok :p
[00:05] <hitsujiTMO> helo_n: as in when you say their name?
[00:05] <kostkon> helo_n, what do you mean by tag?
[00:05] <helo_n> yes, just to make it easier to include your name in my messages
[00:05] <helo_n> in some apps I can double click the user name..
[00:06] <kostkon> !tab | helo_n
[00:06] <helo_n> hitsujiTMO, nice
[00:06] <Lunar_Lander> OK one more thing, the download button gave me the i386 file, I got an AMD CPU, is that allright or shall I go here for the AMD version? http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[00:07] <helo_n> hitsujiTMO,  now what do we do? I'm at the command prompt.
[00:07] <Lunar_Lander> wait
[00:07] <hitsujiTMO> helo_n: ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:07] <Lunar_Lander> I got the i386 file but the dropdown menu was set to 64-bit
[00:07] <Lunar_Lander> that is strange
[00:08] <helo_n> hitsujiTMO, no such file or folder.
[00:08] <hitsujiTMO> helo_n: thats a capital X btw
[00:08] <helo_n> hitsujiTMO, yeah, still no file or folder.
[00:08] <Lunar_Lander> ah, noscript messed with the dropdown menu, no problems
[00:08] <Lunar_Lander> thanks again hitsujiTMO
[00:10] <helo_n> hitsujiTMO, I'm on Ubuntu 13.10 if that changes anything..
[00:11] <hitsujiTMO> helo_n: nano /var/log/Xorg.0.log               scroll to the bottom to see the error that prevented X from loading
[00:12] <jayeshcool> need help with this. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6636823/ Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[00:13] <helo_n> hitsujiTMO, I'm just not sure what i'm looking for here
[00:13] <helo_n> hitsujiTMO, I don't really see any error
[00:16] <ni181143> !list
[00:19] <helo_n> hitsujiTMO, what should I do. I don't see any error.
[00:22] <adas> hitsujiTMO: transmission looks great, how do I make it start on boot?
[00:31] <helo_n> hitsujiTMO, I removed "nvidia" from "driver=nvidia" in bumblebee.conf.. after rebooting, I'm back at the desktop, but optirun still produces "Cannot access secondary GPU"
[00:35] <andrei> I would need some help on installing apache-dev over an apache server installed via tasksel. Should I just go forwards and issue an sudo apt-get install apache-dev or is there any other procedure?
[00:36] <slicky> hi
[00:36] <slicky> is it possible to install gnome3 in ubuntu?
[00:36] <Yep> I just got an asus X502CA and I am trying to boot the UEFI but I cant none of the buttons  I try work
[00:36] <slicky> or is there a gnome3 version?
[00:37] <randomcpp> slicky, gnome-shell 2.8 is on saucy
[00:37] <randomcpp> sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[00:37] <slicky> randomcpp, what is gnome-shell?
[00:38] <randomcpp> gnome 3 interface
[00:38] <slicky> oh
[00:38] <slicky> randomcpp, does it work well with ubuntu? or is it not integrated as well with it. because ubuntu used to be THE gnome distro
[00:39] <randomcpp> :/ ubuntu uses a heavily patched gnome
[00:39] <slicky> heavily patched?
[00:39] <randomcpp> if you want pure gnome 3 desktop you need to use fedora or archlinux (IMHO)
[00:40] <randomcpp> slicky, ubuntu integrates patches to make gnome components work better with unity
[00:40] <slicky> randomcpp, im trying to build a nice desktop for my mom, needs to have certain programs that work perfectly, like skype, flash, teamviewer,
[00:40] <slicky> i dont know if these things all work fine in fedora
[00:41] <slicky> i remember rpms being the biggest PITA
[00:42] <randomcpp> isn't unity ok? Unity has a more straightforward interface
[00:42] <randomcpp> gnome shell is bit sometimes
[00:44] <Guest97923> what button do i press to boot the bios
[00:44] <slicky> meh, unity is alright
[00:44] <thom_r> Guest87823: What brand of computer do you have?
[00:44] <slicky> i wish i could put window buttons on the other side
[00:44] <slicky> that bugs me to no end
[00:45] <randomcpp> slicky, install unity-tweaks
[00:45] <thom_r> Guest97932: What brand of computer do you have?
[00:45] <randomcpp> or something like that
[00:45] <randomcpp> it will solve all your problems
[00:45] <Guest97923> An asus
[00:45] <randomcpp> sudo apt-get install unity-tweak-tool
[00:45] <randomcpp> slicky, ^^^^
[00:46] <thom_r> should be F2 then
[00:46] <Guest97923> thank you
[00:46] <slicky> where do you get unity tweak tool?
[00:46] <thom_r> slicky: software center
[00:46] <randomcpp> ubuntu software center, command line, synaptic..
[00:46] <thom_r> or a terminal install
[00:47] <randomcpp> goodnight :)
[00:47] <thom_r> Guest97923: Are you doing an install?
[00:47] <helo_n> Is anyone available that can help with installing Bumblebee? I'm still getting [ERROR] Cannot access the secondary GPU whenever I run Optirun
[00:48] <Guest97923> thom_r, yeah i am getting rid of win8 and installing Ubuntu but the bios wont show up
[00:49] <thom_r> ok, on a Win8 machine you can't just shut down the OS. It actually stays in like a hibernate mode. You will need to do a hard power off. Then press F2 as soon as you turn it back on
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[00:50] <DWSR> Pretty sure you're wrong, but that's ok.
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[00:50]  * DWSR uses Windows 8 on 4 machines, and has no problems actually shutting down the box.
[00:50] <BPony> DWSR: is it actually shut off?
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[00:50] <DWSR> Yes.
[00:51] <Guest97923> it doesnt have a battery on it thom_r
[00:51] <DWSR> The things you're referring to, the fast boot nonsense, is able to be disabled.
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[00:51] <BPony> Guest97923: that doesn't matter
[00:51] <DWSR> In fact, if you've built your own rig, it doesn't work unless you specifically set it up.
[00:51] <BPony> it stores it in RAM
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[00:51] <thom_r> Guest97923: did you get it into the bios?
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[00:52] <Guest97923> not yet thom_r and okay BPony
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[00:53] <slicky> what version should i get extended support or 13.10
[00:53] <BPony> slicky: 12.04
[00:53] <BPony> no tracking shit
[00:53] <thom_r> slicky: 12.04
[00:53] <IdleOne> !language
[00:53] <slicky> does 12.04 have unity-tweaks?
[00:53] <BPony> no privacy invading tracking advertisements
[00:54] <BPony> better now?
[00:54] <thom_r> slicky: you can install it
[00:54] <slicky> wait a minute? ubuntu now has advertisement tracking?
[00:54] <BPony> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/10/privacy-ubuntu-1210-amazon-ads-and-data-leaks
[00:54] <BPony> slicky: read the eff post
[00:54] <BPony> my next distro is fedora
[00:54] <Guest97923> thom_r, F2 isn't working
[00:54] <BPony> because of what canonical tried to pull
[00:54] <DWSR> I switched back to Windows.
[00:55] <DWSR> Because trololol FOSS.
[00:55] <thom_r> Guest97923: try esc or F9
[00:55] <Guest97923> thom_r: ok
[00:55] <slicky> holy crap are they doing this from now on?
[00:55] <slicky> is this the future?
[00:56] <thom_r> slicky: hopefully they get rid of it, nobody is happy about it
[00:57] <thom_r> slicky: you can turn it off though
[00:57] <Guest97923> neither one of them are working
[00:57] <slicky> thats insane
[00:57] <slicky> why would they have ever thought that was a good idea
[00:57] <DWSR> slicky: Just remember, if you're not paying for the product, you ARE the product.
[00:58] <DWSR> slicky: Because money makes the world go round.
[00:58] <BPony> linux was taken over by greedy for profit companies
[00:58] <BPony> remember when linux was open source, and people worked on it out of their spare time?
[00:58] <DWSR> Yes. It's still like that on other distributions.
[00:58] <BPony> now the majority of commits to the linux kernell are employees
[00:58] <DWSR> Just that everyone flocks to Ubuntu now, so *shrug*
[00:58] <slicky> the companies have made linux not suck
[00:58] <DWSR> That's why I choose to pay for my software.
[00:58] <DWSR> anyway, peace.
[00:59] <BPony> agreed
[00:59] <slicky> i have paid for linux in the past and would do so again
[00:59] <BPony> ubuntu is going down the drain
[00:59] <BPony> i remember when I donated to canonical
[00:59] <slicky> i used to buy SuSE back in the day
[00:59] <BPony> such as mistake
[00:59] <slicky> and packaged versions of freebsd
[01:00] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | BPony, slicky
[01:00] <jhutchins> Yet here you are, complaining in #ubuntu
[01:00] <SonikkuAmerica> The SUPPORT channel.
[01:00] <slicky> im just trying to set up a easy to maintain desktop for my technology illiterate mother without having to worry abotu viruses and spyware
[01:02] <Pricey> slicky: https://fixubuntu.com/
[01:04] <slicky> is canonical insane
[01:04] <SonikkuAmerica> slicky: While Ubuntu proper uses scopes to send information to third-parties on an opt-out basis, the !flavors don't have that capability.
[01:04] <SonikkuAmerica> !flavors
[01:05] <SonikkuAmerica> I use Ubuntu GNOME myself; it has most of Unity's functionality without the ad suggestions.
[01:06] <k1l> hey guys, lets stick to technical ubuntu support in here. for other topics we got #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:06] <SonikkuAmerica> (Last comment: Well, I semi-take that back, Edubuntu also has the scopes IIRC)
[01:07] <slicky> SonikkuAmerica, talking about how to disable the ads is technical discussion
[01:07] <SonikkuAmerica> Yeah, good idea guys. Actually, #ubuntu-discuss could be another place
[01:08] <k1l> SonikkuAmerica: the scopes data gets anonymized
[01:08] <thom_r> k1l: how do you know that
[01:08] <SonikkuAmerica> k1l: I thought we agreed to keep the discussion off the support channel, but thanks for the correction. :)
[01:08] <k1l> slicky: to turn the global search off is a real no-brainer. just take a look at the privace settings in the system settings
[01:09] <k1l> thom_r: i stick to facts and not rumors. thats it
[01:10] <thom_r> k1l: I'm looking for a source. I had not heard one way or another what they do.
[01:11] <BPony> but canonical knows what files you have
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[01:15] <thom_r> Nobody cares about bitcoin here, go away
[01:15] <pvl1> is there a graphical editor to set x resource files
[01:15] <BPony> k1l: what is that screenshot?
[01:15] <BPony> looks like a cool theme I want it
[01:19] <LvMises> I need some help!  I'm trying to install Eve Online via Wine in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.  I'm following: http://www.olympicsoftworks.org/index.php/20-uncategorised/geeky-things/20-eve-online-in-ubuntu-12-04?showall=&start=5  these directions.  I got to the last step and I'
[01:19] <LvMises> I'm not sure what's happening.
[01:20] <chaotix> hello...  i am trying to create a menu entry for a game that is a project 64 rom...  i can not get it to properly open, which means i must be wording the command in the ".desktop" file wqrong...  i was under the assumption that it would be:
[01:21] <chaotix> wine "path to project 64" path to rom
[01:21] <chaotix> can someone help me please?
[01:21] <daftykins> try #winehq
[01:21] <Krenair> I completely broke my system. How do you uninstall the AMD Catalyst drivers? from a root shell recovery prompt, without any package or the original install script...
[01:21] <LvMises> Thanks
[01:22] <daftykins> Krenair: it would've probably installed the uninstaller
[01:22] <chaotix> oops
[01:22] <chaotix> actually i got it now
[01:22] <chaotix> it is:  wine "path to project 64" 'path to rom'
[01:22] <chaotix> i tried every other combination but that one does work
[01:23] <chaotix> merry christmas, and happy hollidays
[01:23] <chaotix> holidays
[01:24] <pvl1> Krenair: did you download them from ati's website
[01:24] <Krenair> daftykins, hm, an askubuntu answer does mention that, will try in a moment...
[01:24] <Krenair> pvl1, yes
[01:25] <SuperHeroINTJ> Hello my friends. I`ve just got a fresh new notebook as christimas gift. It has a very slow Celeron processor. I wonder if installing Ubuntu on it might be a good idea.
[01:26] <pvl1> Krenair: sudo sh /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh
[01:26] <pvl1> Krenair: wait not htat one
[01:26] <Krenair> admittedly, there was an option to have it make packages and install those. I should have gone with that
[01:26] <Krenair> pvl1, not that one? okay...
[01:27] <Zadir> I have a celeron an intel NUC eith a celeron and it is pretty usable
[01:31] <pvl1> Krenair: you should be able to apt-get purge the packages... however there might also be an uninstall script in the /usr/share/ati dir
[01:34] <Krenair> pvl1, okay so I ran the script and I can now boot the system and log in...
[01:36] <Krenair> so now I'm back to how it was before I installed that driver - unity is seemingly missing
[01:37] <Krenair> my programs begin to start up, but no sidebar, no titles on windows, etc.
[01:39] <Krenair> random popup from nowhere: "Your display manager log files may help developers diagnose the bug, but may contain sensitive information such as your hostname. Do you want to include these logs in your bug report?"
[01:39] <Krenair> uh, well, maybe I would if it showed exactly what I was submitting...
[01:40] <Krenair> might have come up after I closed a crash report dialog actually...
[01:40] <SuperHeroINTJ> zadir, can you play Dota 2 on it?
[01:48] <pvl1> Krenair you probably need to reconfigure xorg. What version of ubuntu r u on
[01:49] <Krenair> 13.04
[01:59] <ubuntu-studio> Hello
[02:00] <wiredmessiah> im having an issue running the web setup of media wiki on ubuntu 13.10... i get "Your session data was lost! Check your php.ini and make sure session.save_path is set to an appropriate directory."
[02:00] <wiredmessiah> I've tried everything and google is not helping me
[02:00] <wiredmessiah> anyone have this issue before?
[02:01] <Krenair> wiredmessiah, google shows a few people have.
[02:01] <wiredmessiah> yah
[02:01] <Krenair> wiredmessiah, what version of mediawiki is this?
[02:01] <wiredmessiah> 1.22.0
[02:02] <wiredmessiah> i see session files being created in the session path
[02:02] <ROPA> ropa
[02:03] <Krenair> wiredmessiah, what PHP version?
[02:03] <wiredmessiah> 5.5.3
[02:04] <wiredmessiah> PHP 5.5.3-1ubuntu2.1 to be exact
[02:08] <Krenair> pvl1, hm, now I installed fglrx but still it seems unity is missing
[02:08] <Krenair> windows have titles now, but the unity sidebar is missing...
[02:12] <wiredmessiah> Krenair did you find anything or were you just curious?
[02:13] <Krenair> wiredmessiah, some old 2006/2007 mailing list references to particular PHP versions not working
[02:13] <Krenair> your one should be fine, though I swear I've seen that error before
[02:14] <Krenair> not using memcache are you wiredmessiah?
[02:14] <wiredmessiah> hmm lemme see
[02:15] <wiredmessiah> no def not
[02:15] <pvl1> Krenair: says who
[02:16] <Krenair> pvl1, pardon?
[02:16] <wiredmessiah> should i try one of the newer releases of mediawiki?
[02:17] <Krenair> you have the latest, it should be OK
[02:17] <wiredmessiah> argh hehe
[02:17] <pvl1> Krenair: what makes you think unity is missing
[02:17] <goaw> hello, I just upgraded my system to 12.10 & the upgrade caused a malfunction in the usage of the language tools. Furthermore I'm now not able to login to my primary user login
[02:18] <goaw> :)
[02:18] <Krenair> pvl1, a distinct lack of the unity sidebar thing
[02:20] <pvl1> Krenair: alt F2 should bring up the run widget, and run unity there
[02:23] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, back up and running, everything is almost back to normal
[02:23] <ItsMeLenny> just a few more programs to install
[02:24] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, but one thing, my network is "unmanaged"
[02:24] <Krenair> pvl1, this is what I mean by unity being missing, btw: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10971457/Screenshot%20from%202013-12-26%2002%3A20%3A05.png
[02:24] <Krenair> pvl1, alt+f2 does nothing and the 'unity' command... well the result of that is in the screenshot
[02:24] <h0rrorvacui> I have a upstart script that I messed up the expect stanza and I can't get it to stop and hope to avoid restarting the server. Is there a way?
[02:27] <pvl1> Krenair: Krenair do you have sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati
[02:27] <goaw> be right back, I will try login again
[02:27] <Krenair> pvl1, yes
[02:28] <Krenair> pvl1, shall I switch to using that under additional drivers?
[02:29] <pvl1> Krenair: im not so sure thats where the change occurs. u might need to reconfigure xorg. also confirm that the module is loaded in lsmod
[02:30] <Krenair> pvl1, check that fglrx is loaded in lsmod? yep it's there
[02:31] <Krenair> fglrxinfo shows some info as well
[02:31] <Krenair> how do I reconfigure xorg?
[02:33] <pvl1> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-video-ati
[02:33] <Quark__> you can always try: >sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[02:33] <pvl1> check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log for stuff
[02:34] <pvl1> actually you can do
[02:34] <pvl1> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.lorg | grep EE
[02:34] <goaw> does anybody have the reference to altering the password for an admin account posteri upgrading to 12.10?
[02:35] <kostkon> !pwreset | goaw
[02:36] <goaw> gracias ubottu!!
[02:40] <Krenair> pvl1, like this error? (EE) Failed t oload module "fglrxx" (module does not exist, 0)
[02:51] <neurotus> wtf
[02:54] <OerHeks> why so many clones funkyHa funkyhat 1-23
[02:55] <j4n6> How can i remap caps to ctrl but for all keyboard layouts at once? 13.10 so no option for it in the keyboard settings anymore
[02:56] <ItsMeLenny> where do settings like; export WINEARCH=win32, go?
[02:57] <bazhang> ItsMeLenny, try #winehq
[02:59] <wiredmessiah> i still can't get mediawiki running... ive tried everything i can think of :(
[03:00] <ItsMeLenny> bazhang, yeah i just thought it was a system thing, but i will
[03:03] <j4n6> ItsMeLenny : export makes a variable for your shell. thats brief, u can google it if u want to know more
[03:03] <ItsMeLenny> j4n6, ohhhhhhhhhhhh, that makes a hell of a lot more sense
[03:21] <wiredmessiah> son of a bitch i figured out the mediawiki problem
[03:21] <bazhang> no cursing here please wiredmessiah
[03:21] <wiredmessiah> the b word is a curse?
[03:21] <bazhang> yes
[03:22] <wiredmessiah> ok sorry ive always gone by the policy of if they can say it on network television its not really a curse :)
[03:22] <SchrodingersScat> wiredmessiah: this is the internet, they don't let just anyone on this thing.
[03:22] <hitsujiTMO> unless you're actually talking about dogs it is
[03:23] <wiredmessiah> anyways if anyone is curious, one of the other server admins had set the session.cookie_domain value to one of the other virtual hosts
[03:23] <wiredmessiah> if i remove that directive from the php.ini the problem goes away
[03:27] <luminous> hello! when you install openssh-server, why oh why is fuse a requirement? https://dpaste.de/2D7p
[03:27] <jayar> i added a standard user account, selected "auto-login" and now i can't access my admin account
[03:27] <hitsujiTMO> wiredmessiah: will that not break other virtualhosts?
[03:33] <luc__> hi all
[03:33] <luc__> is true ubuntu is under NSA rules???
[03:33] <xmetal> oh good grief
[03:34] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | luc__ and no canonical are not an americancompany
[03:34] <luc__> microsoft and apple are
[03:34] <luc__> ok ok ok
[03:35] <jayar> i created a standard account with auto login, and now can't login as my main admin account...
[03:35] <Beldar> jayar, If the login is your goal, http://askubuntu.com/questions/180628/how-can-i-logout-from-the-gui-using-cli
[03:35] <hitsujiTMO> jayar: reboot to recover mode and remove the autologin
[03:36] <jayar> i removed the other account with deluser
[03:36] <hitsujiTMO> Beldar: that would just log him back in again tho
[03:36] <Beldar> hitsujiTMO, There are a number of commands
[03:37] <jayar> it just boots to a blank screen, so i go alt+f1, and login to my admin, then i go startx, and the gui loads, but i cant change anything as admin
[03:38] <hitsujiTMO> jayar: why can't you change anything as admin?
[03:38] <jayar> awesome question...
[03:38] <hitsujiTMO> jayar: whats the output og
[03:38] <jayar> when i goto system settings / users, i can't "unlock" it, and its not my regular screen
[03:38] <hitsujiTMO> jayar: whats the output of: groups
[03:39] <wiredmessiah> hitsujiTMO: removing the directive causes the cookie to be created by the domain that created it so the others "should" be fine :)
[03:39] <jayar> jayar adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[03:40] <hitsujiTMO> wiredmessiah: unless you want multiple subdomains to share the same sessions
[03:40] <jayar> i'm not authorized to view any drives either...
[03:42] <jayar> somehow i'm logged into a dif/standard account?
[03:43] <hitsujiTMO> jayar: that seems to be ok. from the terminal go: sudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf        remove the autologin entry from there
[03:43] <jayar> k
[03:44] <jayar> ahhhh thats where that is :)
[03:44] <jayar> brb
[03:47] <luc__> how can i turn to a ubuntu developer ? ?
[03:48] <SchrodingersScat> !dev | luc__
[03:51] <ItsMeLenny> SchrodingersScat, does that require putting 2 girls with 1 cup in a room?
[03:52] <SchrodingersScat> ItsMeLenny: be-bop skiddity do
[03:52] <ItsMeLenny> ohh, that kind of scat
[03:53] <blognewb> poo
[03:57] <zhongfu> does anyone have any idea why my Apple earpiece w/ mic's input loop back into output
[03:57] <jayar> yea that didnt work
[03:58] <jayar> it just stops at boot and i have to alt+f1 to get to a terminal to do anything
[03:58] <jayar> then when i startx it loads some standard account
[04:01] <jayar> askin me for password to unlock my keyring, blah blah blah...
[04:03] <nearst> hello people :)
[04:07] <jayar> bah i'm totally screwed :(
[04:07] <kkkkk> hi all, i am having a problem with mobile broadband, i want to use my mobile to connect to internet in ubuntu, i use a data cable for that,  ubuntu detects it , but when i try to connect it, it connects first, then it disconnects in few seconds , using 2-3 Kb data, and connection name that used to appear in the list, disappears, i have to restart both phone and laptop to  appear it again, i am using ubuntu 12.04 64 bit,(3.8) this issue is not there in ubuntu 12.0
[04:07] <ali33> Hi everybody
[04:07] <ali33> I using Xubuntu
[04:09] <kkkkk> i have bot 32 bit and 64 bit version, 64 bit have lattest kernel but it is not working up to the mark, 32 bit is working quite good though, as i have 64 bit capable hardware, that's why i installed 64 bit version as well,
[04:10] <nearst> what is 64bit capable hardware ? :)
[04:11] <kkkkk> what could be the problem, when same mobile is working well in windows and 32 bit, it could be a problem with kernel i think, there is new version available of kernel, but i want to downgrade it to my 32 bit version, is it possible to do that, 12.04.3 is not upto the mark
[04:11] <zipace> nearst: any modern desktop CPU will likely be 64bit compatible
[04:12] <zipace> nearst: i think that you actually meant something entirely different, no?
[04:12] <nearst> zipace, aha. nothing. merry xmas to all :)
[04:13] <zipace> nearst: you too :-p
[04:13] <kkkkk> zipace: ^^
[04:14] <zipace> kkkkk: is it a separate machine? if so, try to connect, then paste the output of 'dmesg | tail -n50' AFTER it disconnected to paste.ubuntu.com, or some other pastebin
[04:14] <nearst> kkkkk, u should look at dmesg for the problem.
[04:14] <kkkkk> no, this is same machine, with different version installed
[04:15] <zipace> kkkkk: well, if it's possible to do that it'd help tremendously, seeing as how network manager usually prints stuff to syslog
[04:15] <kkkkk> i need to install  some packages to 64 bit like wine, virtualbox, codecs etc
[04:16] <kkkkk> i want read the log file
[04:16] <nearst> kkkkk, try look for this solution. http://hustoknow.blogspot.com/2012/12/upgrading-networkmanager-and.html
[04:17] <kkkkk> i can read the log file and this can be done, i can paste whole output of my login session, i know at what time i loginned there, and upto shutdown, all messages will be there in log file
[04:17] <kkkkk> should i paster kernel.log file
[04:18] <gx> i'm trying to figure out how to use upstart to run a php script every 30 seconds that runs an operation on my database. can't find any good examples... anyone around that can point me in the right direction?
[04:18] <zipace> kkkkk: dmesg will do
[04:19] <zipace> gx: are you sure you don't want cronjobs instead?
[04:19] <zipace> gx: and there are plenty examples for cronjobs lying on the internet
[04:19] <gx> zipace, yes. i need it to run actually quicker than 30 seconds, and i only want one thread running at a time
[04:19] <gx> just using 30s as an example
[04:19] <kkkkk> zipace, but now i am connected with 32 bit version and 64 bit version is creating problems to me
[04:19] <nearst> gx, cronjob doin well for that purpose
[04:20] <kkkkk> zipace: copied dmesg output from 64 bit is http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6637539/
[04:20] <gx> i could create a script that runs a process every 20 seconds, yes... and then run it on a cron every minute, but that doesnt seem very elegant imho
[04:20] <zipace> gx: that seems like a silly idea. why do you need it to run "faster" than cronjob (whatever you actually mean by that), and why only one thread? at least the latter is usually handled by the application, not by upstart or cron
[04:21] <gx> i'm updating some data from an API and i need it to run every 10 seconds or so. every once and awhile, it'll take longer than 10s to grab the data, and i don't want another process to start until the last one is finished
[04:21] <zipace> kkkkk: let's clarify something here: you're running 64bit ubuntu, but with 32bit drivers, or something like that?
[04:21] <gx> as i understand it, that's the definition of a daemon
[04:22] <zipace> gx: write your PHP scripts to handle errors better.... ;-)
[04:22] <gx> great advice, thanks
[04:23] <zipace> gx: seriously though, cron will do just fine, you really need to handle errors better if you're stuck with that kind of problem
[04:23] <kkkkk> zipace: no i have both 32 bit and 64 bit ubuntu installed on same machine, right now i am on 32 bit machine, mobile broadband is working here, while not working in 64 bit version and  this is the only source of internet to me
[04:23] <Brispere> hello
[04:24] <kkkkk> so, to connect to community, i have to boot back to 32 bit version while problem is with 64 bit ubuntu 12.04.3
[04:24] <Brispere> I was just wondering if I install ubuntu and replace windows on my laptop, will the internal trackpad and camera still work?
[04:24] <nearst> Brispere, sure.
[04:24] <kkkkk> Brispere: try with live cd, if everything works okay, then you can install
[04:24] <zipace> kkkkk: is your wlan adapter/receiver external or internal? is it USB, by any chance?
[04:25] <gx> zipace, i have to run about 10 scripts concurrently, every few seconds... i could either write a bunch of controller scripts that last 59s and trigger the sub-scripts every few seconds and then put it into cron, or i could create a daemon for each and get special stuff like logging, status updates, etc
[04:25] <zipace> Brispere: try LiveCD first in cases like that
[04:25] <kkkkk> zipace: i am using data cable to mobile , using phone as a modem
[04:25] <zipace> !livecd | Brispere
[04:26] <Brispere> alright
[04:26] <nearst> kkkkk, why not u make a wifi hotspot with your samsung rather connect using usb cable :)
[04:26] <zipace> kkkkk: whoa jesus, i didn't think people actually did that
[04:26] <kkkkk> nearst: this phone doesn't have a wifi
[04:27] <kkkkk> also, ubuntu is very bad when it comes to wireless, my broadcom 4313 wireless doesn't work like charm with ubuntu
[04:27] <Brispere> Also, would you guys recommend installing the plasma 2 desktop yet or stick with plasma one
[04:27] <zipace> kkkkk: that's not ubuntu's fault, though
[04:27] <nearst> kkkkk, so u using ppp ?
[04:27] <kkkkk> less signal detection, less internet speed, disabled ipv6 n all those things, i could do
[04:27] <kkkkk> but no luck
[04:28] <zipace> Brispere: plasma2 is alpha, no? you might want to try it out in a virtual, or separate installation
[04:28] <Brispere> alright
[04:28] <nearst> kkkkk, http://www.techytalk.info/manage-gsm-mobile-broadband-connections-without-network-manager-ubuntu-mint-debian/
[04:28] <zipace> kkkkk: none of those issues are caused by ubuntu
[04:28] <zipace> kkkkk: speaking from experience here
[04:28] <kkkkk> nearst: now, i am using same mobile with data cable plugged in USB port and it is working  well on 32 bit, so problem is with 64 bit , neither with mobile, nor with data cable
[04:29] <zipace> i used to have one of those propietary dongles that were designed for windows, and even though the vendor removed linux support years ago, I still got it to work (yay me, i guess)
[04:30] <kkkkk> let me see, zipace, but should i upgrade network manager and modem-manager, earlier link given by one of you
[04:30] <nearst> its a package which u need to upgrade . :)
[04:30] <zipace> kkkkk: i gave you no links, nearst did, besides, upgrading isn't necessarily going to solve the issue
[04:30] <nearst> unless ure familiar with AT command
[04:31] <zipace> kkkkk: it might be a driver problem, or a flaky USB cable, or simply a shitty connection
[04:31] <kkkkk> zipace: NO, same mobile, same cable, same provider work well in Windows and ubuntu 32 bit, so this argument is invalid
[04:32] <zipace> kkkkk: then... it might still be a driver problem
[04:33] <kkkkk> yes, buggy drivers, i have used ubuntu 11.10 64 bit earlier, no problem at all, but new version actually made thing worse
[04:33] <kkkkk> even LTS did thing like that
[04:34] <energizer> ive got some questions about Linksys Range Extender -- not sure where to ask. any ideas?
[04:34] <zipace> kkkkk: well, i'm stumped. you migh still have some luck asking on http://askubuntu.com/
[04:34] <zipace> !ask | energizer
[04:35] <kkkkk> we can expect things like that in beta versions or versions that are not LTS, also 12.04.3 should rectify those problems, which are occuring with many users, these are necessary things, most of users in India connect to internet using mobile broadband, either dongle or data cable,
[04:35] <nearst> be right back
[04:35] <energizer> zipace: Well, it's sorta a catch 22, isn't it. If I'd just asked, someone else would've said "Sir, this isn't a networking channel." haha
[04:36] <zipace> kkkkk: don't lose your cool, like i said, it could still just be a driver problem
[04:36] <kkkkk> zipace: let me ask at askubuntu.com
[04:36] <zipace> energizer: hence why you should just ask ;-) if someone knows they'll let you know
[04:37] <energizer> Anyway I'm trying to assign a static IP to my computer, but it won't take. (Supposed to have 192.168.1.200, but it's got 192.168.1.107 instead for no obvious reason.)
[04:37] <kkkkk> zipace: things should work out of the box, most of people like stability over polished effects
[04:37] <energizer> I have a range extender that im connected to, and i think that might be causing some complications
[04:38] <kkkkk> things that were already working, should work in newer version, instead of regressions
[04:38] <kkkkk> backward compatibility :D
[04:38] <zipace> energizer: quick google yielded this: http://www.howtoforge.com/linux-basics-set-a-static-ip-on-ubuntu - can't say if it works for you, though
[04:38] <energizer> thanks for the tip zipace
[04:40] <zipace> kkkkk: like i said, you might want to try asking on http://askubuntu.com/, but make sure to include as much potentially useful information as possible
[04:41] <zipace> energizer: no problem, and feel free to ask away if it doesn't work
[04:41] <Runemoro> Hello, could anyone help me fix a problem I'm having on my ubuntu server?
[04:41] <zipace> !ask | Runemoro
[04:42] <Firefishe> what will this LVM proposal yield me?
[04:42] <Runemoro> zipace: Whenever I download a file, the download starts at a slow speed, and then increases constantly up to 100mbps
[04:42] <Firefishe> www.pastebin.ca/2517809
[04:43] <energizer> zipace: I'm very new to all this. It was my understanding that the way to set a static ip is by assigning an ip to a mac *on the router interface*. this page seems to suggest that settings in ubuntu are the way to go. I just want to make sure that it's got the same goal in mind
[04:43] <zipace> zipace: just ask in the channel - i'm just a lowly unpaid user around here ;-)
[04:44] <energizer> lol zipace
[04:45] <zipace> energizer: that may depend on how your router is configured, if you use the wrong configuration on your router, the router might become inaccessible, AND you need to tell Linux that it shouldn't use DHCP for network discovery, in other words, static IPs need to work both ways, and of course, need to be set up on both ends
[04:46] <blaczyckowski> Hi guys, I need some help regarding setting up aircrack on bcm 43xx card. I'm currently running precise, and the error i keep getting is " ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device". ANy help?
[04:46] <energizer> zipace: oh, that's a key piece i was missing. i thought i could do it only on the router. I've got to do it both on the router *and* on the computer?
[04:47] <zipace> blaczyckowski: is it your own card, though? >:-)
[04:47] <zipace> energizer: ayup
[04:47] <blaczyckowski> Yes. ;)
[04:48] <blaczyckowski> zipace: I've heard that bcm cards have been causing much shit for aircracking.
[04:50] <Xen0n> hey
[04:50] <blaczyckowski> Xen0n: Merry Christmas!
[04:50] <energizer> Xen0n: hey
[04:50] <rogue5> Hey
[04:51] <zipace> blaczyckowski: that i have no idea about, but "no such device" usually implies that the(?) device couldn't be discovered. for example, many programs that operate directly on devices have default values for eth0, the default device for cable. some programs might allow you to override those defaults to select a different device, such as wlan0
[04:51] <zipace> blaczyckowski: that's my best guess here, for that matter
[04:52] <blaczyckowski> zipace: So, the problem is not with BCM?
[04:52] <blaczyckowski> zipace: Is installing BackTrack going to do any good with my card?
[04:53] <zipace> blaczyckowski: like i said, i have no idea, networking isn't my strongest suit :-(
[04:54] <gry> Linux kernels usually have the same drivers regardless of distro. Ubuntu packages proprietary drivers in addition to that.
[04:54] <blaczyckowski> zipace: Cheers, mate. Thanks for your help.
[04:54] <zipace> blaczyckowski: you're welcome
[04:55] <blaczyckowski> Guess, i have to check the backtrack wiki now. Time to RTFM!
[04:56] <shreezbot> Have any of you guys been able to connect to crashplan on your homeserver from another machine?
[04:57] <shreezbot> I've followed the instructions on the code42 site and the client on my Windows box still says it can't connect to crashplan on my ubuntu box...
[04:57] <shreezbot> Looking for any tips on troubleshooting the connection failure...
[04:57] <energizer> if i just used dhcp, should't the the router/extender just assign me the specified ip from the router interface? (zipace)
[05:00] <blaczyckowski> Good bye guys, merry christmas!
[05:00] <thom_r> see ya
[05:00] <rogue5> Later
[05:06] <m0dest> hey is there a good reason why Ubuntu doesn't automatically delete old kernels?  I am perpetually running out of space on /boot
[05:09] <SuperLag> m0dest: why have /boot on a separate partition?
[05:09] <SuperLag> m0dest: That, and a situation might happen where you're VERY glad you have one of those old kernels around
[05:10] <m0dest> SuperLag: encrypted root
[05:11] <SuperLag> m0dest: I'm no expert... but write a script to delete all but the latest 2-3 kernels and run update-grub?
[05:11] <SuperLag> m0dest: put that script in a cron job to run every so often
[05:12] <m0dest> to answer my own question, it looks like i can just run `apt-get autoremove` periodically
[05:12] <m0dest> via cron or whatever
[05:13] <m0dest> i use unattended-upgrades, it's a shame that it doesn't do that by default
[05:29] <Abhijit> hi. i get duplicate sources list error when i do apt-get update. but when i open the source.lst in text editor i can not find any duplicate entry? help
[05:29] <Abhijit> 12.04
[05:33] <cem_> hi all
[05:33] <cem_> is there anybody playing mud?
[05:34] <cem_> i never ever played mud but i wanna give a try wit gnome mud
[05:34] <chad_> hello
[05:35] <chad_> I was wondering if anyone has advice on getting A+ certifiaction?
[05:35] <chad_> I have never worked in IT but have learned alot and would like to do free tests and study for it
[05:37] <Gere> Hello guys I need your help,I am using ubuntu 12.04 "Couln't update ICEauthoriy/home/username /ICEauthority is display when I try to login how can solve this problem?
[05:37] <codyduncan> Hey friends.  Fresh install, not my first.  I need some help dealing with some tricky unmet dependencies for grive-tools.
[05:38] <chad_> I was wondering if anyone has advice on getting A+ certifiaction?
 I have never worked in IT but have learned alot and would like to do free tests and study for it
[05:38] <chad_> its pretty dead in here for help
[05:38] <chad_> ive been in 10 mins have not seen anyone
[05:38] <dougbb> chad, maybe that's because a+ certification isn't on-topic? :)
[05:39] <chad_> yeah i get that
[05:39] <chad_> its still relevant to computers lol
[05:39] <codyduncan> Slow or not, irc hasn't failed me yet.
[05:40] <codyduncan> Though it has been a while since I have been around here.
[05:40] <chad_> yeah i hear that
[05:40] <chad_> i logged in for first time in 8 years the other day
[05:40] <chad_> used to use Mirc back when i had ICQ :S
[05:41] <chad_> someone helped me edit my fstab here the other day
[05:41] <chad_> could not figure that out
[05:43] <chad_> gui apply
[05:43] <chad_> GUI SHOW
[05:43] <codyduncan> It just occurred to me, though, this is Christmas.  I suspect people have other stuff going on.
[05:43] <chad_> yeah thats probably true
[05:44]  * chad_ hits head DUH!
[05:50] <kristen> hi
[05:51] <SuperLag> and... he's gone
[05:54] <Abhijit> hi. i get duplicate sources list error when i do apt-get update. but when i open the source.lst in text editor i can not find any duplicate entry? help
[05:55] <Abhijit> also getting this error while installing updates http://paste.ubuntu.com/6637885/
[05:59] <ramborocks> hello?
[05:59] <kristen> ramborocks hi
[06:00] <ramborocks> hi
[06:00] <ramborocks> just checking to see if this works been going to random channals and servers all empty
[06:01] <nearzt> hello
[06:01] <ramborocks> i did something and now it wont show who here on the right side any quick fix?
[06:02] <dougbb> ramborocks: this isn't a chat channel, you should go to the support channel for your IRC client
[06:03] <ramborocks> what is this channel for then?
[06:04] <ramborocks> ive got ubuntu questions too . I cant get my external HD to give correct permissions to allow it to be shared with my plex media server
[06:05] <dougbb> Abhijit: try this:  sudo apt-get clean
[06:05] <dougbb> sudo mv /var/lib/apt/lists /var/lib/apt/lists.old
[06:05] <dougbb> sudo mkdir -p /var/lib/apt/lists/partial
[06:05] <dougbb> sudo apt-get clean
[06:05] <dougbb> sudo apt-get update
[06:05] <FloodBot1> dougbb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:08] <ramborocks> ok
[06:08] <Abhijit> dougbb, what does the partial directory do?
[06:08] <dougbb> It just recreates the path for the list files
[06:09] <dougbb> IIRC partial is where they get downloaded
[06:09] <Abhijit> okey.
[06:09] <SmashStack> anybody know how to attach a picture to an MP3 file's APIC frame using the id3v2 tool?
[06:10] <SmashStack> I can't figure out what parameters I need to give it for it to attach correctly
[06:11] <ramborocks> sorry smash
[06:11] <ramborocks> when would anyone need todo that?
[06:11] <oaky> SmashStack: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1353213
[06:12] <SmashStack> a script converting to MP3 from FLAC. I don't want to bother manually attaching a cover image
[06:13] <SmashStack> if it's read only why can I use it to remove an image?
[06:15] <SmashStack> I'll look through the code a bit, I guess. thanks, oaky
[06:16] <ramborocks> goodluck
[06:16] <SmashStack> thanks ramborocks
[06:22] <ramborocks> anyone got good recommendations to nvidia drivers on ubuntu
[06:22] <ramborocks> im trying to get my games to run a little better
[06:22] <dougbb> what are you using now?
[06:23] <SmashStack> ramborocks: you mean free vs. proprietary?
[06:26] <ramborocks> i have a geforce gtx 560/pcie sse2
[06:26] <duoi> hi
[06:26] <ramborocks> had to look it up
[06:26] <dougbb> ramborocks: what *drivers* are you using now?
[06:26] <duoi> if i install ubuntu on ARM architecture, would i run into issues when trying to install software?
[06:27] <ramborocks> is there a quick way to check that?
[06:27] <ramborocks> like a command?
[06:28] <dougbb> duoi: the package repos are divided up by architecture, so if you see something available for your arch, you shouldn't have a problem
[06:29] <dougbb> ramborocks: grep -i nv /var/log/Xorg.0
[06:29] <dougbb> If you see Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation" you're already using the nvidia driver
[06:30] <dougbb> If you see references to nouveau, you're using that one
[06:31] <ramborocks> how can i check doug?
[06:32] <dougbb> ramborocks: I just pasted the command
[06:32] <duoi> dougbb, is there a large offering for ARM devices? do i have reason to believe mainstream web browsers, wine, teamviewer etc would work?
[06:33] <dougbb> duoi: you'd have to browse the repos to answer that question, I have no idea
[06:33] <dougbb> ... or you could just try installing it and see what happens :)
[06:34] <dougbb> if you're going to install something anyway, installing ubuntu to try it out isn't that much extra effort
[06:35] <llutz> duoi: there is #ubuntu-arm , you may get more arm-related info there
[06:37] <duoi> dougbb, im doing the research before i go out and purchase the device :p
[06:37] <dougbb> ah, that's a different story
[06:37] <dougbb> the #ubuntu-arm channel could help you more then
[06:38] <ramborocks> ok doug
[06:38] <ramborocks> looks like i got official nvida drivers
[06:38] <dougbb> ramborocks: then you're done
[06:39] <ramborocks> are those  the ones you would recommend for using on wine to play games that run slower / choppy
[06:40] <dougbb> they're the best you're going to get
[06:41] <dougbb> geforce cards are Ok, but they're not big performers to start with ... but with a windows game in wine you're already a couple layers deep ... cpu and ram are going to be big factors as well
[06:42] <DAL|Desktop> Is there anything I should do in 12.04.3 before moving my HDD to a new system?
[06:43] <SaberX01> Nothing is going to perform well using Wine .. it's like cutting your system resources in half going through Wine.
[06:43] <dougbb> DAL|Desktop: are you going to be using it as a system drive, or is it just data?
[06:43] <ramborocks> oh man thats not good news: (
[06:44] <SaberX01> DAL|Desktop, have a full backup of /home is always a good plan.
[06:44] <DAL|Desktop> dougbb, system drive
[06:44] <llutz> DAL|Desktop: you might find your old eth0 as eth1 in the new system, if MAC changed. be prepared
[06:44] <dougbb> DAL|Desktop: that's probably not a good idea .... you're better off to back up your data and reinstall
[06:44] <llutz> s/old//
[06:45] <dougbb> there is a lot of configuration that happens at install time depending on the hardware, it's not easy to ferret it all out
[06:45] <DAL|Desktop> llutz, or I might be lucky and it won't load the NIC drivers again until I reboot
[06:45] <dougbb> (really you should back up the data anyway, but that's another topic)
[06:45] <llutz> DAL|Desktop: not a driver issue, it's an udev-rule
[06:46] <llutz> DAL|Desktop: check /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[06:46] <dougbb> well you can just delete that file before you move the disk, it will get recreated .... moving a system disk is still not a good idea
[06:46] <DAL|Desktop> llutz, Hmm? I was just about to throw things last time I booted after a kernel update. I modprobed the driver and then ifconfig refused to see the NIC
[06:47] <Lucid_Lynx> How do i list the information on a process knowing its id ?
[06:48] <llutz> Lucid_Lynx: ps -p <pid>
[06:48] <badboi> Hi there guys. Quick question: when adding users to my server (adduser), they can read all the data in /home directory of other users. Is this normal? Can it be disabled ?
[06:48] <llutz> badboi: chmod homes 700 to avoid that
[06:48] <Lucid_Lynx> llutz, thank you, pal..
[06:48] <badboi> It seemed kinda silly/weird to me that these are default rights
[06:48] <badboi> thanks for you answer llutz
[06:49] <llutz> badboi: those are silly defaults
[06:49] <dougbb> badboi: users have the ability to make directories private if they want to
[06:49] <badboi> i see..
[06:49] <dougbb> but "back in the day" sharing resources between users was the norm, and helped to avoid duplication of data when disk space was very expensive/precious
[06:50] <badboi> default of home is 755 i see
[06:50] <llutz> dougbb: wven "back in those days" there was no reason to give anyone access to a users home
[06:51] <dougbb> llutz: we'll have to agree to disagree on that one
[06:51] <llutz> dougbb: bind-mount exists since ages, symlinks do aswell
[06:51] <badboi> i did a chmod 700 on the /home dir
[06:51] <badboi> however, now i get the following if i "cd" as a logged in user
[06:51] <llutz> badboi: not on /home but on $HOME
[06:51] <dougbb> badboi: you should also do that on the individual directories in /home
[06:52] <dougbb> you should not do that on /home itself
[06:52] <guest47230> hi. i am trying to install a wifi driver. I have no idea how to do this. any help will be much appreciated.
[06:52] <badboi> oh i have to do this for every user i add seperately ?
[06:52] <dougbb> badboi: yes ... in theory you should be able to edit the default directory permissions
[06:53] <badboi> default directory permissions are maybe in the skeleton for new users ?
[06:53] <dougbb> badboi: /etc/adduser.conf looks promising
[06:53] <badboi> DIR_MODE=0755
[06:53] <A_J_> I'm planning on doing a fresh install of Ubuntu and was wondering what folders do I need to back up to make a back of of Deluge so that I don't have to lose my active seeding torrents?
[06:55] <badboi> dougbb: that did the trick
[06:56] <badboi> thanks all of you for your responses ^_^
[06:56] <dougbb> excellent :)
[06:56] <dougbb> A_J_: do you have the original torrent files?
[06:57] <Guest59426> Wifi Driver just need network-Manager and Network-Manager-Gnome if you are using Ubuntu
[06:57] <Quark__> One thing to keep in mind is that directories have to be executable to view the contents, chmod +x, but making all files executable is a security risk (some would say mild, other would say severe)  So you should set them differently:
[06:58] <badboi> Quark__: directed to me ?
[06:58] <Quark__> > find . -type f -exec chmod 644 {} ; find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {}
[06:58] <ramborocks> why do people dislike unity?
[06:58] <Guest59426> I like Unity, its just lacking some user control
[06:58] <llutz> Quark__: chmod 700 $HOME sets +x on the dir only, no files affected at all. same for DIR-MODE
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> ramborocks: because they might be still used to gnome
[06:58] <dougbb> Quark__: you're answering a question no one is asking :)
[06:58] <Guest59426> Viewing my comics from the UNity screen is nice
[06:59] <A_J_> dougbb no. they are all added into deluge close to 500 of them
[06:59] <ramborocks> hmm
[06:59] <ramborocks> its been so long +5 years since i used kde / gnome
[06:59] <dougbb> A_J_: d'oh!   Look in ~/.config ... it's probably in there
[07:00] <Quark__> Could be, thats what I get for surfing #ubuntu late at night it seems.
[07:00] <A_J_> dougbb so just copy it. and put them in my new setup ?
[07:00] <slicky> hi
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> for some machines unity doesnt run well (older hardware), that might also be a dislike
[07:00] <slicky> is there an easy way to dedupe a directory?
[07:00] <ramborocks> ahh legacy hardware i see
[07:01] <ramborocks> yeah that makes sense
[07:01] <dougbb> A_J_: I don't know, I don't use deluge ... but in theory you should be able to find the configuration you're looking for there
[07:01] <dougbb> A_J_: there is a #deluge on this network, try asking there
[07:01] <slicky> is there a tool that can find duplicate files in a directory?
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> ramborocks: alot of users also swear bu kubuntu or xubuntu for years so...unity is a choice
[07:01] <dougbb> slicky: FSlint
[07:02]  * dougbb uses xubuntu personally
[07:02] <A_J_> dougbb i tried there, it's not that active there. thanks though :)
[07:02] <dougbb> A_J_: it's  a major holiday in the US, and most of the rest of the western world ... try again tomorrow :)
[07:02] <ramborocks> whats xubuntu ?
[07:02] <ramborocks> im a newb to linux
[07:02] <ramborocks> as i need not even state
[07:02] <dougbb> ramborocks: ubuntu with the XFCE desktop instead of unity
[07:02] <A_J_> indeed dougbb lol
[07:03] <DAL|Desktop> dougbb, ta. I was hoping I wouldn't have to reinstall all my OSes since Ubuntu has all the drivers compiled in
[07:03] <Gnea> !ppa
[07:03] <slicky> thanks dougbb
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> ramborocks: you can test for yourself by install xubuntu-desktop from your ubuntu desktop
[07:04] <dougbb> slicky: glad to help
[07:04] <ramborocks> thanks lotus
[07:04] <dougbb> lotuspsychje: personally I wouldn't recommend that ... IME switching DEs is not a smooth process
[07:05] <ramborocks> another quick question. In wine why would i change say from windows 7 to windows xp? Is it just to see if the program for say.. couldnt run on the other... or is one supported better than the other?
[07:05] <dougbb> ... although admittedly the last time I tried it was probably 9.x or so
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> dougbb: alot of users install other wm from their ubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu, enlightment, blackbox
[07:06] <ramborocks> im watching a youtube video on xubuntu
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> dougbb: as for a test he could try it safely right
[07:06] <ramborocks> oh how i love youtube lol
[07:06] <dougbb> lotuspsychje: my experience was that switching TO a new desktop environment generally worked Ok, but switching back afterwards ... not so much
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> ramborocks: what is your purpose for windows on your ubuntu?
[07:07] <dougbb> but like I said, it may have improved in the last years
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> dougbb: its improved alot
[07:07] <dougbb> that's good to hear :)
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> !info xubuntu-desktop | dougbb
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> dougbb: i used it many times on machines that doesnt run unity smooth
[07:08] <ramborocks> it looks like how i remember linux looking when i first played around with it
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> ramborocks: you can use virtualbox on your ubuntu, to emulate windows (if you need that)
[07:08] <ramborocks> long long ago
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> dougbb: did you test enlightment lately?
[07:09] <dougbb> lotuspsychje: nope ... I've been an XFCE user for a long time
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> dougbb: fun and oldskool :p
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> !info e17 | dougbb
[07:09] <dougbb> although lately I've been a little annoyed at the lack of emerald support
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> dougbb: you on 13.10 xubuntu?
[07:09] <dougbb> and I am quite an old school user, yes
[07:09] <dougbb> yes
[07:10] <dougbb> emerald is badly broken on 13.10, I had to revert to gtk-window-decorator :(
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> dougbb: emerald is that the effects compiz thing?
[07:11] <dougbb> it's not for effects, it's what you're supposed to use with compiz to provide window decorations
[07:11] <dougbb> (title bars, resize handles, etc.)
[07:11] <dhruv> hi
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> dougbb: ah i see!
[07:11] <cfhowlett> dhruv, greetings
[07:11] <dougbb> up till 13.10 you had to compile it yourself, but it worked fine ... now it has all kinds of issues
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> dougbb: im using effects on compiz from ubuntu 13.04 64bit
[07:12] <dougbb> yes, the compiz stuff works fine
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> dougbb: maybe the #xubuntu guys might know howto solve your emerald issue?
[07:13] <dougbb> lotuspsychje: not so far, but I haven't been in there when there during the day yet .... I only recently isolated the problem to emerald in any case
[07:13] <dhruv> im trying to unmount a parition in ubuntu but i couldnt do it. can any please help me this
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> dhruv: did you try gparted mate?
[07:14] <ItsMeLenny> where do i find a list of env commands for wine
[07:14] <dougbb> dhruv, the usual cause of that problem is that something is holding a file descriptor open in the partition
[07:14] <ItsMeLenny> those like WINEPREFIX=
[07:14] <dhruv> no im using KDE parition manager
[07:14] <ItsMeLenny> oh, in man
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> !info gparted | dhruv
[07:15] <ramborocks> why would someone edit commands in wine?
[07:15] <dougbb> dhruv, what error do you get when you try to unmount?
[07:16] <dhruv> when i right click on the parition the unmount option is not active
[07:17] <dhruv> it says i cant unmount the parition
[07:18] <llutz> dhruv: what partition is it, where is it mounted to?
[07:18] <llutz> dhruv: "mount" in a terminal might help to get that info
[07:19] <dhruv> ext4 type parition
[07:24] <dhruv> when i open gparted program and when i click on ext4 type parition to unmount it, it doesnt work
[07:24] <cristian_c> Hi
[07:25] <cristian_c> I installed qt4-qtconfig. When I open the qt configuration tool, I change the font type and size. Then I select File-> Save, and the string 'Saved changes.' appears in the statusbar
[07:25] <thom_r> cristian_c: hello
[07:25] <cristian_c> But if I close and reopen the configuration tool, I find the previous settings, as if I had not made ​​any changes
[07:25] <cristian_c> thom_r, hello
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> dhruv: did you sudo gparted?
[07:25] <dhruv> what is sudo gparted?
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> dhruv: start gparted from terminal: sudo gparted
[07:26] <cristian_c> How can I solve this problem?
[07:26] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[07:27] <dougbb> cristian_c: check the permissions on your home directory, then run the qt4-config program from a shell, and see if there are any errors
[07:27] <dhruv> im sorry im very new to ubuntu can you help me through this
[07:27] <dhruv> how should i sudo gparted from terminal
[07:27] <dougbb> dhruv, do you know what a terminal is? Do you have one open?
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> dhruv: what do you want to do with your partition?
[07:28] <dhruv> im trying to install windows 8
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> lol?
[07:28] <dougbb> dhruv, you don't install windows 8 inside ubuntu :)
[07:28] <thom_r> dhruv: are you trying to wipe Windows 8 and install Ubuntu?
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> dhruv: why dont you stay on ubuntu mate, w8 is bad...
[07:29] <dhruv> no im trying to wipe ubuntu and install windows 8
[07:29] <thom_r> I don't understand why anyone in their right mind would want to use Windows at all
[07:29] <cristian_c> dougbb, I've tried with the guest user and I've also created a new user
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> dhruv: does your ubuntu dont please you?
[07:29] <dougbb> dhruv, ok, then you don't need to unmount anything, just boot the windows 8 installer and let it reformat the drive for you
[07:30] <thom_r> dhruv: why do you want to get rid of Ubuntu for Windows 8?
[07:30] <cristian_c> dougbb, I'll try to run the configurator from the terminal
[07:30] <dougbb> cristian_c: OK
[07:30] <dhruv> i have tried, that it gives me option to choose in which parition iwant to install it
[07:31] <dhruv> but non of the paritions are active
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> dhruv: can you explain to us why you dont like ubuntu?
[07:31] <dhruv> im not that comfortable with it
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> dhruv: howso?
[07:31] <thom_r> dhruv: try Zorin
[07:31] <dougbb> dhruv, you should probably get some help from the windows folks on that one then .... do you have anything on the drive you want to preserve, or does it all need to be wiped out?
[07:32] <dhruv> okthanks
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:32] <dougbb> folks, linux isn't for everyone,  no sense trying to talk someone into doing something they aren't ready for
[07:32] <thom_r> http://linuxscreenshot.netsons.org/wp-content/gallery/zorin-os-6/linux-screenshot-zorin-os-6-00.jpg
[07:32] <thom_r> dhruv: check that out
[07:32]  * lotuspsychje thinks another soul selled to m1cr0s0ft
[07:32] <thom_r> oops, he left
[07:33] <cristian_c> dougbb, I've tried to run 'qtconfig-qt4' and I've made the change, bug no messages have been printed
[07:33] <cristian_c> :(
[07:33] <llutz> lotuspsychje: an OS is a tool not a religion (at least: should be)
[07:34] <bob___> Where can I find the usbmgr.conf?
[07:34] <sgo11> any program can download youtube video in ubuntu? thanks.
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> llutz: for many users, ubuntu is also a way of life
[07:34] <bob___> sgo11: You can always use www.onlinevideoconverter.com
[07:34] <thom_r> sgo11: All Video Downloader
[07:34] <somsip> sgo11: youtube-dl http://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> llutz: opensource minded ppl, and an ease for our digital life
[07:35] <SaberX01> lotuspsychje, The same could be said about a great many things, not just Linux operating systems.
[07:35] <bob___> I can't seem to find any information if whether ubuntu uses usbmgr or hotplug
[07:35] <dougbb> cristian_c: that's a weird one ... try this:  assuming your username is cristian_c:  find /home/cristian_c ! -user cristian_c
[07:35] <dougbb> substitute your real user name if it's different
[07:35] <cristian_c> dougbb, ok
[07:36] <bob___> Where can I find usbmgr.conf?
[07:36] <dougbb> bob___: did you try: locate usbmgr.conf
[07:37] <SaberX01> bob___, it's the kernel, udev and rules.d
[07:37] <bob___> SaberX01:  What do you mean "it's the kernel"
[07:37] <bob___> dougbb:  Yup, no results found with that one.
[07:37] <sgo11> somsip, thanks for the answer. I use youtube-dl before. it does not support proxy as the time I tried it. I will check it again.
[07:37] <cristian_c> dougbb, I get a list of files belonging to my home :O
[07:37] <yash069> bob___: /etc/usbmgr/usbmgr.conf
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> sgo11: try the #firefox channel for asking other cool addons
[07:38] <bob___> yash069:  No such file or directory.
[07:38] <sgo11> lotuspsychje, thanks.
[07:38] <bob___> I also tried /etc/hotplug, none found either.
[07:38] <dougbb> cristian_c: Ok, that sounds like a permissions problem then .... again assuming your user name is cristian_c, do this:  chown -R cristian_c:cristian_c /home/cristian_c
[07:38] <cristian_c> 176 files
[07:39] <cristian_c> ok
[07:39] <dougbb> cristian_c: you're not logging in as root, are you?
[07:39] <cristian_c> no
[07:39] <cristian_c> :D
[07:39] <dougbb> Ok
[07:39] <cristian_c> I'm not so stupid
[07:39] <cristian_c> :)
[07:40] <yash069> bob___: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/dapper/en/man5/usbmgr.conf.5.html
[07:40] <cristian_c> dougbb, chown -R cristian:cristian /home/cristian is not accepted because I've not launched this command with privileges
[07:41] <dougbb> ok, so prepend sudo to that command
[07:41] <cristian_c> Operation not permitted
[07:41] <cristian_c> ok
[07:41] <dougbb> sudo chown ....
[07:41] <cristian_c> it's working...
[07:42] <cristian_c> then, I'l try to launch the find command again
[07:42] <bob___> yash069:  Like I said, it is nowhere to be found on my system. I'm wondering how my system manages the flash drive I just connection. Hehe
[07:42] <bob___> connected*
[07:43] <cristian_c> chown: unable to access to "/home/cristian/.gvfs": Permission denied
[07:43] <cristian_c> only this message
[07:43] <cristian_c> good work
[07:43] <nearst> hello good ppl
[07:43] <cfhowlett> nearst, ... and the rest of us?  no greeting?  no nothing?
[07:44] <cristian_c> ok
[07:44] <cristian_c> dougbb, find /home/cristian ! -user cristian returns only the commands prompt
[07:44] <cristian_c> :)
[07:44] <nearst> cfhowlett, hi !  and merry xmas to all
[07:44] <badboi> any apache experts here ^^ ?
[07:45] <dougbb> cristian_c: ok, that's what we'd expect .... go ahead and try the qt4-config again
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> badboi: #httpd
[07:45] <cristian_c> ok
[07:45] <badboi> yeah im in that channel already, but kinda quiet :x
[07:45] <nearst> just upgrade saucy :)
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> badboi: or ask your ubuntu apache issue
[07:45] <dougbb> cfhowlett: this isn't a chat channel
[07:46] <badboi> well its not ubuntu-related but okay :)
[07:46] <badboi> Im trying to setup: user.domain.com and use public_html folder in user directory: /home/user/public_html - was wondering if this is possible
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> badboi: if you have apache on ubuntu, it is
[07:46] <badboi> that i do
[07:46] <cristian_c> dougbb, i've tried now. No messages displayed in the terminal and no changes saved when I open again the configurator
[07:46] <cristian_c> :(
[07:46] <bob___> There is no /etc/usbmgr, /etc/usbmgr/usbmgr.conf, /etc/hotplug, or /etc/hotplug/usb.usermap in my system. Yet I can see the contents of my connected flash drive. What does my system uses to manage it?
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | maybe anything usefull here badboi
[07:47] <badboi> i found a lot of sites expllaining how to use mods-available , but that translates www.domain.com/~user/ to /home/user/public_html automatically
[07:47] <dougbb> cristian_c: not sure what to tell you then .... the next step would be to truss the process
[07:48] <SaberX01> bob___, This is about as good of explanation as one would expect to find for all the parts involved; http://blogas.sysadmin.lt/?p=141
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> badboi: the #ubuntu-server guys might also have experience on apache aswell
[07:48] <cristian_c> dougbb, I've not understood the meaning of 'truss' :)
[07:48] <dougbb> badboi: the short answer to your question is no .... the longer answer is that you could probably do it with enough configuration tweaks, but it's not on topic for this channel
[07:49] <dougbb> cristian_c: yeah ... you probably want to try in #qt
[07:49] <cristian_c> ah, ok, tie, bind
[07:49] <dougbb> they may be able to give you more debugging details
[07:49] <llutz> cristian_c: is the config being read at startup at all? "strace -e open -f "qtcreator" ">&1 |grep home"  should give you a list of files being open when starting "qtcreator" (replace this by the correct app-name)
[07:49] <cristian_c> dougbb, ok, thansk very much for the support :)
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> ItsMeLenny: did your ubuntu setup work mate?
[07:50] <dougbb> cristian_c: or try what llutz said :)
[07:51] <cristian_c> llutz, I don't know if the config is read at all at startup, but I'll check it :)
[07:51] <cristian_c> llutz, i'll try the strace command
[07:52] <bob___> SaberX01: Thanks for the site, however, I'm just wondering where the files, the utilities, are. I can't find them in my system.
[07:52] <cristian_c> dougbb, ok, now I've got many things to do :)
[07:52] <cristian_c> thanks
[07:53] <dougbb> good luck cristian_c, I'll be afk for a bit
[07:53] <cristian_c> ok
[07:53] <SaberX01> bob___, There all over the place depending on that it is, check /dev for devices, check dmesg messages about connection status and configuration events.
[07:53] <ramborocks> any good documentarys on linux
[07:53] <ramborocks> ive watched revolution os
[07:53] <SaberX01>  .. on what it is ..
[07:53] <ramborocks> yeah you know something to watch with the wife
[07:54] <bob___> SaberX01: I'm pretty new to Linux so I don't really understand how it works. According to what I read it says that the utility are in /etc/usbmgr/usbmgr.conf which I can't find in my system
[07:55] <SaberX01> lol . I recommend the history channel, discovery etc, NGO, anything but not Utube via the Internet .. lol
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> ramborocks: the ubuntu-touch video is nice, but not really a docu :p
[07:55] <ramborocks> lol
[07:56] <SaberX01> bob___, Do you have a specific problem your trying to resolve? if not, maybe #ubuntu-ot is a better place for general discussion.
[07:56] <nearst> :)
[07:56] <helmut_> hi
[07:57] <thom_r> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XTHdcmjenI&list=FLQyIlFhZ9P5rOQ6mFCU3Y8w&index=1
[07:57] <thom_r> decent enough video
[07:57] <thom_r> it's only 18 minutes
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> ramborocks: maybe ubuntu party might get you on the right track
[07:57] <ramborocks> ooo a ted talks!
[07:57] <ramborocks> love those
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> !party | ramborocks
[07:57] <ramborocks> thanks
[07:57] <bob___> SaberX01: Oh, I'm sorry about that. I'll visit the room. Thanks
[07:58] <ramborocks> lol
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> ramborocks: you can already say to your wife, your on the most popular Os in the world
[07:59] <llutz> his wife will be amazed
[07:59] <ramborocks> lol
[07:59] <ramborocks> wife thinks my learning linux is stupid
[08:00] <thom_r> Linux is everywhere. It's pretty hard to get away from Linux.
[08:00] <ramborocks> she loves her windows 8
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> ramborocks: she's wrong
[08:00] <ramborocks> :)
[08:00] <cny-buntu> does she use an android phone?
[08:00] <cny-buntu> or kindle ...
[08:00] <ramborocks> she uses iphone i got the android
[08:00] <thom_r> Just tell your wife that Facebook and Google run Linux. If that isn't good enough tell her that the US nuclear submarine fleet runs Linux
[08:00] <ramborocks> nope she uses ipad for that too
[08:00] <cny-buntu> lol
[08:00] <ramborocks> its like talking religion in our house
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> ok lets focus back to ubuntu support :p
[08:01] <cny-buntu> <-- doesn't like apple
[08:01] <ramborocks> :) im taking off
[08:01] <ramborocks> i got a 18 minute clip to catch before bed
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> ramborocks: welcome to the ubuntu community ok
[08:01] <cny-buntu> ciao
[08:01] <ramborocks> thank you]
[08:02] <thom_r> good luck ramborocks
[08:03] <Abhijit> dougbb, still getting this error http://pastebin.com/QwgAPZ8v help
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> Abhijit: did you sudo apt-get update?
[08:04] <SaberX01> Id' do a clean, autoclean then update try again
[08:04] <SaberX01> and try again
[08:05] <Abhijit> lotuspsychje, same erro after apt get update
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> Abhijit: try what SaberX01 sugested then
[08:07] <Abhijit> ok
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> Abhijit: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto
[08:17] <JohnnyL> What would cause Firefox package after a do-release-upgrade crash at Firefox start while a ftp download install of firefox with same .mozilla work fine?
[08:17] <dougbb> Abhijit: did you do all the commands I pasted for you earlier?
[08:18] <SaberX01> JohnnyL, something wrong with the repo package, could be anything really.
[08:19] <cny-buntu> can some help me with a networking issue?
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> JohnnyL: try running firefox from terminal?
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> cny-buntu: if its ubuntu related sure mate
[08:19] <Abhijit> dougbb, yes.
[08:19] <Abhijit> SaberX01, lotuspsychje did clean autoclean autoremove and update. still same error.
[08:20] <cny-buntu> sorta I think
[08:20] <lotuspsychje> Abhijit: check this out maybe: http://askubuntu.com/questions/140940/why-do-i-receive-the-duplicate-sources-error-message-during-an-ubuntu-12-04-li
[08:20] <SaberX01> Abhijit, what you trying to install? Need the error and how yoru trying to install it.
[08:21] <Abhijit> SaberX01, its when i install updates. something related to perl.
[08:21] <cny-buntu> deals with setting ipv4 in netwotk connections to share with other computers
[08:21] <SaberX01> Abhijit, chesk what lotuspsychje sent you .. that seems reasonable.
[08:21] <SaberX01> check
[08:21] <Abhijit> ok
[08:22] <cny-buntu> i have wlan0 and eth0. wlan is my internet, eth is private
[08:22] <SaberX01> cny-buntu, what are you trying to do, and what is the SW not doing that you expect it too do?
[08:23] <cny-buntu> when I share eth0 to other computers is changes my internal ip from 192.x.x.x to 10.x.x.x
[08:23] <SaberX01> cny-buntu, from my experience with ICS it's ben 10.x.x.x
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> cny-buntu: maybe the ##nteworking guys might help you also?
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> ##networking
[08:24] <z8z> Guys sorry for annoying but i got confused about a license issue. A c++ library i want to use for a commercial software which license should have GPL or LGPL?
[08:25] <dougbb> z8z, wrong channel
[08:25] <SaberX01> cny-buntu, that' the correct behavior for ICS .. your primary NIC or Gateway would be the 192.x.x.x and the share is 10.x.x.x that's how it is set up to work.
[08:26] <cny-buntu> my eth0 is wired to a wireless router
[08:26] <YOURBESTFRIEND> z8z: LGPL
[08:26] <cny-buntu> my wlan0 is internal wnic on laptop
[08:26] <lotuspsychje> !gpl | z8z
[08:26] <nearst> wew
[08:27] <lotuspsychje> !lpgl
[08:27] <lotuspsychje> !lgpl
[08:27] <SaberX01> cny-buntu, what exactly are you trying do .. ?  your setup seems backwards for ICS
[08:27] <cny-buntu> when i try to connect another machine via wirless router, i have to connect multiple times to pull the correct ip of 10.x.x.x instead of 192.x.x.x if that makes sense
[08:27] <z8z> YOURBESTFRIEND: thanks... you are the man!
[08:28] <cny-buntu> my internal wlan0 does not support master mode, hence the wireless router
[08:28] <cny-buntu> my router has an ip of 192.167.x.x
[08:28] <SaberX01> cny-buntu, sorry, but none of this is making sense, if you have a wireless router, you can share that through the eth0 NIC to another computer, but not the wlan0 connection.
[08:29] <cny-buntu> ok
[08:29] <SaberX01> cny-buntu, so the process goes somethign like this:
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> SaberX01: can ad-hoc help him?
[08:29] <nearst> cny-buntu, gateway WAN usually on public ip. 192.x.x.x is class C IP
[08:29] <cny-buntu> remote machine connects to wireless router goes through eth0 then out wlan0
[08:30] <SaberX01> cny-buntu, Router = Wireless to Computer1, then eth0 on Computer1 to Computer2 .. computer2 gets the 10.x.x.x IP addy from computer1.
[08:30] <cny-buntu> sorry if i am not explaing it right, don't know much about networking but trying
[08:30] <dougbb> cny-buntu: that doesn't make any sense ... why don't you just plug the ethernet cable into the WAN port on the router, then use the router as it's designed to be used?
[08:30] <nearst> cny-buntu, u setup it on vm ? or phy hardware ?
[08:31] <cny-buntu> physical
[08:31] <nearst> probably routing stuff
[08:32] <cny-buntu> my problem is, lets i connect a kindle or droid to my wireless router, sometimes it picks up the routers ip of 192.x.x.x
[08:33] <cny-buntu> so i have to disconnect and reconnect till i get a 10.x.x.x ip
[08:33] <cny-buntu> make sense?
[08:33] <SaberX01> No
[08:33] <nearst> so make it static
[08:33] <archyme> Thats what its supposed to do cny
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> well thats not really relevant to ubuntu anymore
[08:33] <archyme> Why do you want a 10.x ip
[08:33] <SaberX01> cny-buntu, log into your router and reserve an IP address for the Kindle or whatever, you dont have to mess with static IP's
[08:35] <SaberX01> cny-buntu, Additionaly, unless your router is set to dish out IP in a subclass 10.x.x.x yrou non-shared devices shoutld get a 192,x.x.x somthing or other IP addy.
[08:35] <dougbb> cny-buntu: why do you want the devices connected to the router to get a 10/8 address, instead of an address on the dhcp server of the router?
[08:35] <cny-buntu> i don't, it's just the way it worked out when i share eth0
[08:35] <SaberX01> cny-buntu, Ok, why are you sharing eth0 ?
[08:36] <SaberX01> and what is eth0 connected to?
[08:36] <cny-buntu> eth0 is wired to my wireless router
[08:36] <nearst> ah, ok. and then?
[08:36] <dougbb> cny-buntu: so then the bigger question is, why are you sharing eth0 on your laptop instead of plugging the internet connection into the WAN port on the router?
[08:36] <SaberX01> cny-buntu, you dont need to share that connection then.
[08:37] <dougbb> right, what SaberX01 said
[08:37] <cny-buntu> if i don't share it, i don't have ICS on remote machines
[08:37] <dougbb> you're trying to make things too complicated
[08:37] <cny-buntu> i can't share wlan0 , no master mode
[08:37] <dougbb> cny-buntu: why do you want to do ICS instead of letting the router do it's job?
[08:37] <SaberX01> cny-buntu, let the wireless router dish out IP's to the wireless devices, like Kindle or whatever, then your laptop or desktop is the NIC port on the box/router.
[08:37] <cny-buntu> router has no internet
[08:38] <dougbb> so why are you not plugging the internet into the router in the first place?
[08:38] <nearst> and eth0 to the route ?
[08:38] <SaberX01> FUBAR
[08:38] <cny-buntu> i get free wireless
[08:38] <cny-buntu> there is no hardwired modem to my router
[08:38] <SaberX01> cny-buntu, so your Internet, or Gateway is VIA the Wireless router ?
[08:39] <dougbb> aha!
[08:39] <cny-buntu> no it is not
[08:39] <dougbb> so get a wireless bridge ... then you can use the bridge to connect to the ISP, and plug the other end into the WAN port on the router
[08:39] <archyme> Cny why does your router not have internet? If you dont want your router to route and just want it as a switch then turn off dhcp and let something else run your dhcp
[08:39] <llutz> cny-buntu: and your wifi-router doesn't support bridge/repeater-mode?
[08:39] <dougbb> right now you're trying to use your laptop as the bridge ... that's not a good plan
[08:40] <cny-buntu> no it doesn't, i tried that. just trying to make things work with what I have
[08:40] <cny-buntu> right dougbb
[08:40] <cny-buntu> trying to make the laptop work as the modem
[08:41] <SaberX01> cny-buntu, easiest option is to get a second wireless access-point and use that as your LAN DHCP
[08:41] <SaberX01> and hang a switch off that for wired connections.
[08:41] <archyme> A laptop isnt a modem and wont work like one
[08:42] <dougbb> SaberX01: no need to get a full wap to do that, a cheap-o wireless bridge will do the trick just fine
[08:42] <cny-buntu> archyme, it does work, sometimes
[08:42] <dougbb> I'm using that setup now
[08:42] <cny-buntu> so the wireless bridge is more hardware?
[08:42] <dougbb> yes, usually around $30
[08:42] <nearst> or look another firmware for route to make a wireless bridge
[08:42] <cny-buntu> something I can get at the bigbox stores?
[08:43] <dougbb> nearst: most low-end consumer routers don't have the circuitry
[08:43] <dougbb> cny-buntu: yes
[08:43] <nearst> try ask at #openwrt .
[08:44] <cny-buntu> my router isn't supported by WRT
[08:44] <cny-buntu> tried that
[08:44] <SaberX01> dougbb, however he wants to do .. whatever is easy, but the current arrangement going to causing collisions and connection issues.
[08:44] <cny-buntu> yes it does
[08:44] <cny-buntu> network crashes all the time :(
[08:44] <dougbb> SaberX01: right, I'm saying that using the laptop for a bridge is a bad idea :)
[08:44] <SaberX01> Personally, I'd treate the 1st Wireless Router and a Border or Edge Router, and that it, but tha'ts just me.
[08:45] <nearst> bcoz your laptop confuse, thats why
[08:45] <dougbb> however, using a bridge for a bridge will work a treat
[08:45] <cny-buntu> thanks for all the help :)
[08:47] <SaberX01> dougbb, He could setup a DHCP Server .. have the wireless router be the gateway and eth0 route to a switch and dish out IPS, then hang an access point off that, that would work.
[08:48] <nearst> it possible tbh. but prefer the easiest way :)
[08:48] <SaberX01> Easiest way is a second wireless router, and hard line between them, use 2nd router for LAN
[08:49] <totesmuhgoats> hi folks
[08:49] <totesmuhgoats> has anyone here installed handbrake from the stebbins ppa? i just installed it but i don't seem to have anything resembling a handbrake executable in PATH
[08:50] <somsip> !PPA | totesmuhgoats
[08:51] <totesmuhgoats> somsip: i seem to have added the ppa succesfully, because apt-cache search yielded no packages before and afterward showed the package, i installed it succesfully, i just don't know what the name of the executable is, or if it maybe installed somewhere not in PATH
[08:52] <llutz> totesmuhgoats: dpkg -L handbrake-packagename|grep "bin/"
[08:53] <dougbb> SaberX01: sure, but my way is easier :)
[08:53] <JohnnyL> yeah. basically you don't know.
[08:53] <totesmuhgoats> llutz: thank you very much, for some reason the bin is HandBrakeCLI, not handbrake or similar as i was expecting
[08:53] <llutz> totesmuhgoats: stupid naming... but now you know what to use
[08:55] <totesmuhgoats> i really need to learn more about dpkg, i thought it was just for making and installing packages
[08:56] <robcar> hello everybody
[08:56] <robcar> ubuntu 13.10 64bit here
[08:56] <llutz> totesmuhgoats: well it has a database and some options to query it, mostly used are -L and -S i guess
[08:57] <robcar> one thing that I really miss of Windows 7 is its taskbar, specifically the window preview feature
[08:58] <robcar> for instance it shows the opened IE tabs and I can close them individually
[08:58] <robcar> is it possible to have this feature in ubuntu?
[08:58] <thom_r> I've never used Windows 7 for more than like an hour
[08:59] <totesmuhgoats> llutz: thanks, pal
[08:59] <SaberX01> Unity Dash, one you master it, blows windows task bar away.
[08:59] <thom_r> robcar, are you talking about when you hover the mouse over a windows you have minimized in the taskbar and it shows you what it is?
[08:59] <SaberX01> *once
[09:00] <dougbb> thom_r: yes, that's what he's referring to
[09:00] <robcar> I do love dash, but the question is: can the launcher show preview windows of the opened apps?
[09:00] <thom_r> I don't know if the Unity dock does that. I know Zorin does it with the awn panel
[09:00] <robcar> kubuntu has a similar feature but it doesn't let you close the windows
[09:02] <SaberX01> If you have say, 2x Chrome apps open, not Tabs, and ya click on the launcher, mine puts them in two different work spaces ..
[09:02] <SaberX01> and I can Alt-Tab though both  instantly.
[09:02] <SaberX01> *through
[09:03] <robcar> saberx01, thanks, yeah I saw it, though it's not so immediate as in win7
[09:05] <SaberX01> I dont know, my time on windows usually spans long enough to boot a box and get rid of it, apart from one, that I have  to use for a couple specific programs.
[09:10] <Richhh> i liked to use mspaint to immediately draw ideas, so far haven't found a linux equivalent (something that loads in <1s on a 2GHz Celeron, something with a simple UI like pinta), ideally something that can save to .svg too, not web based
[09:10] <linuxlite> hello
[09:10] <Richhh> hi
[09:10] <ikonia> tux paint
[09:10] <cfhowlett> linuxlite, greetings
[09:10] <Richhh> k will try
[09:10] <linuxlite> anyone here knows mysql
[09:11] <cfhowlett> !mysql
[09:11] <ikonia> cfhowlett: thank you, need to fix that alias, mysql is not lamp
[09:11] <gry> linuxlite, hi, what's up
[09:11] <linuxlite> i guess the DISTINCT does not work on integers
[09:11] <linuxlite> hi gry
[09:11] <linuxlite> hello cfhowlett
[09:12] <ikonia> linuxlite it should do, and also be aware of the channel #mysql - good mysql guys in there
[09:12] <linuxlite> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6638445/ this is my query
[09:12] <apb1963_> anyone know how to get plasma desktop weather wallpaper to work?
[09:12] <linuxlite> http://picpaste.com/shot-MZXD9d9D.png here is my screenshot
[09:12] <apb1963_> ubuntu 12.04
[09:13] <linuxlite> thanks ikonia il join them now
[09:13] <SaberX01> that query scrolled like 4mile off my screen ... lol
[09:13] <linuxlite> ikonia cannot join channel on mysql
[09:13] <linuxlite> SaberX01 thats ok
[09:14] <ikonia> linuxlite: you need a registered freenode account
[09:14] <ikonia> !register | linuxlite
[09:14] <ikonia> linuxlite: also the guys in #freenode can help you register if you get stuck
[09:14] <nearst> aha ikonia , how are u xD
[09:14] <SaberX01> no really makes it hard to understand .. but MySQL channel somewhere probably best chance at a fix fer that one.
[09:15] <ikonia> linuxlite: looks like a syntax error, no the two ' ' don'tseem to make sense
[09:15] <gry> linuxlite: and pastebin with line wrap and error message
[09:16] <gry> ... i can't read that
[09:17] <linuxlite> it works the Identification shows 1,4,2,4 but i want it 1,4,2 only
[09:17] <linuxlite> i used distinct
[09:20] <linuxlite> mailto:jlgradiostation@gmail.com
[09:20] <linuxlite> jlgradiostation@gmail.com has too many accounts registered.
[09:20] <linuxlite> it says ^^^
[09:24] <YOURBESTFRIEND> how do I know if an executable is 32 bit or 64 bit?
[09:25] <ikonia> YOURBESTFRIEND: run "file" against it, or right click properties on it
[09:25] <YOURBESTFRIEND> ikonia: thank you
[09:27] <sazawal> Sorry, I could not find a room for "cron" package, so I am asking here. I used < folderpathwithspaces IN_OPEN myscript "$@" > to watch a directory using cron. The directory has spaces in its path, but the wildcard $@ is only giving me watched path till the first space inside myscript. How can I fix this?
[09:28] <dougbb> don't use directories or files with spaces in unix :)
[09:28] <ikonia> andrex: 1.) don't use cron like that directly executing commands - put it in a script 2.) use escape chars, eg: directory\ with\ spaces
[09:29] <sazawal> dougbb, I have put backslashes before the spaces as well
[09:29] <sazawal> ikonia, I have done that but its not helping
[09:29] <ikonia> sazawal: show me the script
[09:29] <bytefire> what should be efi partition size on a 500gb hdd for ubuntu install?
[09:29] <ikonia> bytefire: same as on a 1GB or 1TB disk
[09:29] <ikonia> bytefire: it doesn't change
[09:29] <sazawal> ikonia, ok I will put it in pastebin
[09:30] <thom_r> bytefire: are you installing alongside something or is Ubuntu the only OS?
[09:30] <bytefire> ubuntu is only os
[09:30] <kartik> alongside windows 8
[09:30] <thom_r> just do an install, it will do all the work for you.
[09:31] <bytefire> thom_r it gives a problem: grub fails to install
[09:31] <bytefire> that's why im doing partitioning
[09:31] <bytefire> ikonia: what's tht size?
[09:32] <ikonia> bytefire: have you read the EFI install documentation?
[09:32] <sazawal> ikonia, This is my /var/spool/incron/root entry http://pastebin.com/839RpAzW
[09:32] <ikonia> sazawal: incron ?
[09:32] <thom_r> bytefire: did you try installing in legacy mode?
[09:33] <sazawal> ikonia, yes, why?
[09:33] <ikonia> sazawal thats not the default cron in ubuntu is it?
[09:33] <bytefire> thom_r in legacy mode, it doesn't recognise the live usb as boot device for some reason. it's acer aspire v5 123
[09:34] <thom_r> what program did you use to create the usb
[09:34] <llutz> ikonia: incron is not a cron-replacemend
[09:34] <YOURBESTFRIEND> ikonia: what does LSB mean?
[09:34] <ikonia> YOURBESTFRIEND: linux standard base
[09:34] <ikonia> llutz: ah, thank you, I've never used it
[09:34] <YOURBESTFRIEND> in the context of "file"
[09:34] <bytefire> ikonia: i have EFI install documentation open. problem is i dont have the background knowledge for most of the stuff
[09:34] <YOURBESTFRIEND> i.e. file program
[09:34] <YOURBESTFRIEND> still linux standard base?
[09:34] <sazawal> ikonia, no its not. The default in ubuntu I guess is only timed scheduler, using which I can execute a command at a given time. I installed it using "apt-get install incron". Using incron I can watch a directory for changes at any time.
[09:35] <llutz> ikonia: it monitors and acts on filesystem-events
[09:35] <ikonia> sazawal: I've never used incron so I don't know the syntax,
[09:35] <YOURBESTFRIEND> or least significant bit? or late static binding?
[09:35] <bytefire> thom_r: im using universal usb installer
[09:35] <sazawal> ikonia, ok
[09:36] <ikonia> YOURBESTFRIEND I've just told you what it is
[09:36] <sazawal> llutz, Can you help me with this?
[09:36] <bytefire> thom_r: from ere http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[09:36] <llutz> sazawal: how does your script parse options?
[09:36] <thom_r> bytefire: I've never used that program. I almost always use Unetbootin
[09:36] <sazawal> llutz, I have used $1 inside myscript to get the folder path.
[09:37] <bytefire> thom_r: will unetbootin work on windows?
[09:37] <thom_r> bytefire: yes
[09:37] <bytefire> ty
[09:37] <thom_r> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[09:38] <llutz> sazawal: does your script get the full path or only the part until first space?
[09:38] <bytefire> cool
[09:38] <sazawal> llutz, but as you can see on my pastebin, it just stops at the first space giving < /home/sazawal/Downloads/movies/Annie >
[09:38] <bytefire> thom_r: just to confirm. for legacy mode, i need to set bios start up to legacy mode and then boot from live usb. right?
[09:39] <llutz> sazawal: thats what $1 contains, but did your script get the full path as parameter? check full parameter-line given by incron (write it for testpurpose into a file)
[09:40] <thom_r> yeah, choose legacy/csm mode instead of UEFI
[09:40] <sazawal> llutz, I dont understand. I tried to echo $1 to a text file and this is what I got. The rest of the things are in $2, $3... etc.
[09:40] <thom_r> save and exit, then F12 for boot options, and choose your usb
[09:41] <llutz> sazawal: and $2 didn't contain the missing part of the path?
[09:41] <bytefire> thom_r: nice one...
[09:41] <sazawal> llutz, it did, but the path has more spaces so it goes upto $3.
[09:41] <thom_r> good luck
[09:42] <llutz> sazawal: so its not an incron issue, its your script.
[09:42] <sazawal> llutz, How can I fix it? I even put double quotes across $@
[09:43] <llutz> sazawal: you might change IFS='' inside your script to read the full path with spaces
[09:43] <kdz> hello
[09:43] <kdz> what permissions do i need to be able to run an app?
[09:43] <kdz> i dont want to give my users sudo
[09:43] <sazawal> llutz, Oh let me check it
[09:44] <llutz> sazawal:  does $@ contain more than just the path/filename? if not, why do you fiddle with $1 and don't use $@ in your script
[09:45] <kdz> hi llutz
[09:45] <sazawal> I am not using $@ in myscript. I put $2 as a wildcard when myscript is executed by cron < /home/sazawal/Downloads/movies/Annie\ Hall\ (1977)/ IN_OPEN /opt/myscript "$@" >
[09:45] <sazawal> llutz,
[09:45] <sazawal> sorry I meant $@ i used
[09:45] <ccha4> hello, about unattended-upgrades, how to set Unattended-Upgrade::Allowed-Origins for all origins ?
[09:46] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, you in?
[09:47] <thom_r> bytefire: did you get Unetbootin to work?
[09:48] <sazawal> llutz, This is myscript http://pastebin.com/jtPXsV6e. I put IFS='', but still not helping.
[09:50] <havv> is there an alternative for gMTP? it's terrible
[09:51] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, Yeah .. Im here, wath'en a bit of TV as well.
[09:55] <Lope> I've got a new laptop with nothing on it. I want to wipe the disk and use LVM on the whole disk. is it possible to do this with the Ubuntu installer?
[09:56] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, ah, everythings practically up and running, however my network shows up as "unmanaged" and i cant find where to change that
[09:56] <nearst> Lope, yes
[09:56] <kdz> hello who can help, how can i start a service for another user ?
[09:56] <SaberX01> Lope, sure, when the partitioner asks, just use the entire disk
[09:57] <thiker> hi
[09:57] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, where is theis msg appearing and is it not working?
[09:58] <thiker> I need simple steps for full system backup with command
[09:58] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, in the task bar, then when i go into network connections i can't alter anything
[09:59] <ItsMeLenny> in fact maybe i have to add one and it will fix up on next boot
[09:59] <ItsMeLenny> hmmm, maybe nevermind :P
[09:59] <SaberX01> Ok :-)
[09:59] <ItsMeLenny> :P thanks
[10:00] <SaberX01> thiker, Try this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
[10:00] <peja> anyone have problems with latest grub2? install http://pastebin.com/BGzGyxPX
[10:01] <SaberX01> peja, this a New system ? UEFI maybe ?
[10:03] <peja> SaberX01: 1.99-21ubuntu3.14 for LTS 12.04
[10:04] <qwerty2> hi
[10:04] <qwerty2> i am new in irc chat
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[10:05] <thiker> saberx01 thank you
[10:05] <SaberX01> peja, what were you doing when the error happened, install, SW upgrade what?
[10:05] <gry> qwerty2: hi! just ask your question and enjoy your stay
[10:05] <peja> SaberX01: SW upgrade only
[10:06] <SaberX01> peja, Im not really sure, you could try re-installing grub, but looks like the HD / Controler not talk to the SW .. but that's a guess.
[10:07] <qwerty2> hi
[10:07] <SaberX01> hello
[10:07] <gry> qwerty2: greetings
[10:07] <gry> SaberX01: good day
[10:08] <qwerty2> yes men
[10:11] <qwerty2> FloodBot1: hi
[10:16] <peja> SaberX01: tryed but same result : http://pastebin.com/a1YtmRec
[10:18] <james> Is this a help channel?
[10:18] <DGJones> Guest68966: Yes, this is the main support channel for Ubuntu
[10:19] <SaberX01> peja, you using the root account? that's not advised on a sudo system, can cause all sorts of issues .. you may need to do an update, sudo update-grub
[10:21] <peja> SaberX01: OK thz, but it's still have same problem
[10:22] <SaberX01> peja, Ok. Im not sure what that issue is, not seen that particular error before.
[10:26] <Guest68966> DGJones: how do i type to you? i put in a name and hit tab and it dont work. I have been trying tp upgrade from 64bit ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10 and the upgrade stalled at python dbus-dev. i'd like to close this and do it with the terminal do you know the commands?
[10:27] <thiker> i need to create a new folder and create new file within it bu using one command line,how?
[10:28] <gry> mkdir and touch commands would do it
[10:29] <SaberX01> thiker, mkdir ./<dir-name>  .. then cd ./<dir-name>  .. touch new-file-name
[10:29] <gry> you could also try using mkfile, there is an example at http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17986615/one-command-to-create-a-directory-and-file-inside-it-linux-commad
[10:29] <Meerkat> thiker, you can separate commands with ; if you need it on the same line
[10:31] <thiker> meerkat same command not same line
[10:31] <julio> hy1970cj
[10:31] <gry> thiker: i gave answer to that -- mkfile
[10:31] <SaberX01> can also use && to execute 2nd cmd only if 1st one is sucessful
[10:34] <SaberX01> Isn't mkfile like from Sun or something, think UB has fallocate not mkfile
[10:42] <bytefire> thom_r you there?
[10:43] <bytefire> managed to install ubuntu 12.04 with efi.
[10:43] <thom_r> yeah
[10:43] <thom_r> sorry, was busy
[10:43] <thom_r> glad you got it installed
[10:44] <bytefire> no worries. since i was already on my way installing with efi so thought to go trhough with it
[10:44] <thom_r> was that your first time installing?
[10:44] <bytefire> problem i was getting before was wierd. gui wouldnt show. this time i said log in without ascking for credentials and gui came up fine
[10:45] <bytefire> thom_r: i did install it on a dell pc before
[10:45] <thom_r> hmm, I've never heard of that problem
[10:45] <bytefire> that was intel dual core.. this one was a bit of a challenge
[10:45] <thom_r> glad it's working
[10:45] <bytefire> thanks for your help
[10:45] <thom_r> did Unetbootin work better?
[10:46] <bytefire> i think unetbootin is better than what i was using bfore. now i'll stick to it
[10:47] <SaberX01> +1 on Unetbootin ,, I think thats the most reliable USB approach too.
[10:48] <thom_r> I've ran off a usb with Unetbootin for a whole week before while I was borrowing my dad's laptop
[10:50] <sazawal> Sorry, I could not find a room for "cron" package, so I am asking here. I used < folderpathwithspaces IN_OPEN myscript "$@" > to watch a directory using cron. The directory has spaces in its path, but the wildcard $@ is only giving me watched path till the first space inside myscript. How can I fix this?
[10:52] <thom_r> sazawal, try posting it on www.linuxquestions.org
[10:52] <Meerkat> sazawal, quotes around the folder name or perhaps \ before each space
[10:53] <SaberX01> I don't know anything about incron syntax, never used it before.
[10:53] <sazawal> Meerkat, I did that, but it is still stopping at the first space. Another thing is that, the wildcard $@ doesnt contain the backslash, the incron is doing it like that only.
[10:59] <thiker> gry i tried all this commands but it is not waht i need , really i need to one command to create folder and file in the same time without using |;&&
[11:00] <eutheria> i was wondering if it was possible to share a scanner over a network
[11:00] <SaberX01> what's the name of the folder you want, wehre do you want it, and what's the file name you want.
[11:01] <SaberX01> eutheria, pretty sure Samba can handle that.
[11:02] <thiker> for example folder name f1 and file name aa
[11:04] <eutheria> SaberX01, oh cool i had no idea samba can share scanners
[11:04] <SaberX01> thiker, in you home directory: mkdir f1; touch aa.txt
[11:04] <airtonix> SaberX01: eutheria, samba isn't the one that shares the scanner
[11:05] <eutheria> airtonix, so what shares a scanner
[11:05] <airtonix> SaberX01: eutheria, you need to run saned on a linux machine , which is responsible for sharing it to other linux machines.
[11:05] <SaberX01> Ahh it's SANE
[11:05] <SaberX01> eutheria, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo
[11:06] <airtonix> SaberX01: eutheria, by default gnome provides a scanning program that will connect to any saned exposed scanner : simple-scan i think it's called.
[11:06] <airtonix> i just tap supoer then start typing scan though
[11:06] <airtonix> super*
[11:07] <eutheria> can windows use a sane shared scanner?
[11:07] <airtonix> not sure
[11:07] <airtonix> maybe
[11:07] <SaberX01> I suppse that would work if it's attached to a desktop, but what if it's strictly a network scanner, via a server?
[11:07] <airtonix> SaberX01: doesn't matter saned can connect to network or usb scanners if i recall correctly
[11:08] <SaberX01> eutheria, have a read of the how-too I linked above.
[11:09] <thiker> what is the wrong in this command " tar -cvpzf backup.tar.gz --exclude=/backup.tar.gz "?
[11:10] <hitsujiTMO> thiker:  tar -cvpzf backup.tar.gz --exclude=/backup.tar.gz .
[11:10] <hitsujiTMO> thiker: you forgot to tell it what directory to archive
[11:10] <SaberX01> Probably needs a Path
[11:11] <thiker> i need full backup system
[11:11] <SaberX01> you try to back up or restore?
[11:11] <bekks> then omit /dev /sys /proc and /tmp from your backups too.
[11:11] <cfhowlett> !backup|thiker,
[11:12] <SaberX01> yeah and all those pesky ./.dotfiles are a pain too ..
[11:12] <ewook> bekks: it's insanely fun to look at the logs if you forget to omit 'em ;)
[11:13] <bekks> ewook: yeah /proc/kmem :P
[11:13] <thiker> ok thanks all
[11:13] <hitsujiTMO> thiker: add --one-file-system
[11:13] <SaberX01> Then again, I suppose it depends on how paranoid one is about the restoration as well.
[11:14] <thiker> what about my previous qution about making directory and file in one command
[11:14] <SaberX01> I sent that too you
[11:15] <hitsujiTMO> thiker:  tar -cvpzf /backup.tar.gz --exclude=/backup.tar.gz --one-file-system /
[11:15] <iceroot> thiker: mkdir -p /path/to/file && touch /path/to/file/filename
[11:15] <SaberX01> thiker, mkdir test-dir; touch ./test-dir/test-file.txt
[11:16] <thiker> no i dont want use && or | or ;
[11:16] <iceroot> thiker: then its not possible with one command using standard gnu tools
[11:16] <SaberX01> then use two commands
[11:17] <thiker> no my instructor tell us there is a way to do that
[11:17] <gry> thiker, so how do you not like mkfile then
[11:17] <cesc> Hi! When I plug in a USB drive it is mounted under /media/cesc/usbblabla. Is there a way of having it mounted directly under /media  (saving the "cesc" subdirectory)? Thanks in advance!
[11:17] <iceroot> thiker: vim /path/to/file/filename    vim is creating that directory
[11:17] <SaberX01> mkfile is a SunOS tool
[11:17] <SaberX01> fallocate == mkfile in Linux
[11:17] <gry> it WORKS ON UBUNTU, if you're not interested in that ask elsewhere
[11:18] <SaberX01> where is it at?
[11:18] <gry> oh, i apologize, it doesn't appear to work on ubuntu, i was misinformed
[11:18] <SaberX01> Indeed
[11:19] <Bjizzle> Hello. I'm trying to use a gtx 780 as my gpu and a 580 as my physx card. When I try to login (if I get a screen that isn't blank) when I log in I get a blank screen. I've tried nvidia-current (304), 319, and 331 drivers.
[11:19] <thiker> so?
[11:19] <iceroot> or just mkdir -p /foo/bar/filename    (everything in unix is a file, also directories :) )
[11:19] <SaberX01> gry, maybe your thinking of mktemp -f ..
[11:20] <gry> no, in making a nontemporary file
[11:21] <SaberX01> I think all the dir's are also files in Linux as well, jsut a directory file, thus the reason for test -d or -f
[11:22] <iceroot> SaberX01: everything is a file in UNIX, GNU/Linux
[11:22] <thiker> mkdir -p is for creatin folders
[11:22] <SaberX01> pretty sure that's what I just said, or at least that's what I ment to say without all the typo's .. lol
[11:23] <iceroot> thiker: use mkdir -p /path/to/file && touch /path/to/file/filename  or ask in #bash. i guess we are finished here
[11:23] <iceroot> thiker: or use vi /path/to/file/filename
[11:23] <SaberX01> he dont want a compound command, not && | or ; allowed .. lol
[11:24] <iceroot> SaberX01: does not matter, he has some solutions, i guess we can skip that topic
[11:24] <Bjizzle> Hello. I'm trying to use a gtx 780 as my gpu and a 580 as my physx card. When I try to login (if I get a screen that isn't blank) when I log in I get a blank screen. I've tried nvidia-current (304), 319, and 331 drivers. I'm on 13.10.
[11:29] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:35] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|Bjizzle,
[11:37] <Bjizzle> Thanks cfhowlett
[11:38] <cfhowlett> Bjizzle, that should get you into the system.  configuration beyond that is also beyond my ability to advise.
[11:39] <adas> hitsujiTMO:  !
[11:40] <Bjizzle> Cfhowlett, for the boot params should I have "ro quiet splash nomodeset $vt_handoff"
[11:41] <SaberX01> thats prob good for Boot up to login
[11:41] <cfhowlett> Bjizzle, I believe that's right
[11:41] <Bjizzle> What about after I login?
[11:41] <SaberX01> that's all driver stuff then ..
[11:42] <cfhowlett> Bjizzle, oh that's when the real fun starts!
[11:42] <SaberX01> Im on 12.04 .. so really can't advice much on the desktop portion ~ 13.10
[11:43] <Bjizzle> Haha, when can I plug my second monitor into the primary gpu? Once I'm in how do I use the second gpu as physx?
[11:44] <Bjizzle> And it doesn't seem to display the desktop
[11:45] <SaberX01> I have no Idea, may want to try in the Nvidia channel.
[11:46] <Bjizzle> Didn't realize they had a channel. :o I guess I should have as everyone has a channel on freenode
[11:48] <SaberX01> Bjizzle, actually, I just did a quick search, didn't see one, but may be one around somewhere .. but they probably best info on that issue.
[11:49] <Bjizzle> #nvidia
[11:50] <SaberX01> There ya go then. I think the newest NV card I have is a 58 series .. rather old now, just no need for any of the newer cards.
[11:51] <win5hit> hi there! i'd like to stress test my rigs memory with a ubuntu live-cd.(not memtest86)
[11:52] <Bjizzle> My friend is letting me borrow his 780 while his motherboard is fried
[11:52] <win5hit> my idea was to create a ramdisk and bench it with bonnie
[11:53] <win5hit> but... bonnie keeps throwing a warning that the size for testing should be double ram size... but... i want to stress test ram ;)
[11:53] <win5hit> any idea how to circumvent this warning?
[11:53] <ikonia> win5hit: why would you not use memtest - designed to test ram
[11:53] <SaberX01> There's several mem-test type apps that never make it to the OS stage in boot .. Id' think that's the optimum situation.
[11:55] <win5hit> ikonia: yes memtest is designed to test ram,but: it's running and not throwing errors(multiple passes). and i'd like to validate a specific behavior: rig freezes if i stress ram.(not completely freezes, gets back after 10 minutes or so... memtest86 doesn't crash, keeps running and stating everything is ok)
[11:56] <ikonia> win5hit you've just validated it - it's running and not throwing errors - multiple passes "validated"
[11:56] <win5hit> ^^not exactly
[11:56] <iceroot> just start eclipse, that is the best stresstest for ram ever :)
[11:56] <ikonia> win5hit: how not exactly ?
[11:57] <win5hit> ikonia: when i run a ram stress test on windows i can watch rtts going to >10s, machine response is very bad. now i would like to verify the same behavior on linux.... just to be sure it's an operating system independent problem
[11:57] <SaberX01> I thought Bonnie was a Disk I/O test suite, didn't think it did memery testing as well.
[11:58] <win5hit> ikonia: whilst putting 100% cpu load on the rig doesn't affect the latencies
[11:58] <iceroot> SaberX01: ramdisc
[11:58] <ikonia> win5hit you've just validated it - and it looks like it's an operating system problem as it's not doing it on windows
[11:58] <win5hit> ikonia: the other way around
[11:58] <ikonia> win5hit: ok, the other way around then
[11:59] <DonkeyHotei> i'm at my wit's end. ext4 crapped itself, had to reformat and reinstall, and now fglrx insists on having a Segmentation fault
[11:59] <SaberX01> Actually, you really want to crank on a system, MPICH / Linpack Benchmark stuff, that' keeps going until something breaks down.
[11:59] <win5hit> ikonia: but i still want to see latencies increase when i put load on running linux ;)
[11:59] <ikonia> DonkeyHotei file systems don't "crap themselves" - explain the problem
[12:00] <ikonia> win5hit sounds like you're looking for a probolem thats not there
[12:00] <win5hit> why?
[12:00] <DonkeyHotei> ikonia: [    21.401] Segmentation fault at address (nil)
[12:00] <DonkeyHotei> [    21.401] Caught signal 11 (Segmentation fault). Server aborting
[12:00] <win5hit> i can't measure ping latencies if i boot directly into memtest86.
[12:01] <ikonia> DonkeyHotei: that's not a file system error
[12:01] <ikonia> win5hit: ping ??? that's network
[12:01] <win5hit> yes
[12:01] <ikonia> win5hit: what are you talking about stress testing ram with "ping"
[12:01] <win5hit> look, i was talking about round trip times
[12:01] <ikonia> win5hit: you where talking about ram a minute ago
[12:01] <win5hit> yes
[12:01] <ikonia> now you've swapped to ping without a change of scope
[12:01] <DonkeyHotei> ikonia: what part of "had to reformat and reinstall" tells you the filesystem still has a problem?
[12:02] <SaberX01> Network I/O or  Memory .. I be lost now too :-)
[12:02] <ikonia> DonkeyHotei: good luck getting help with your smart responses, bye
[12:02] <win5hit> yes. if i put stress on ram, running on windows, the latencies(RTT) increase to >10 s. and i would like to validate the same behavior on linux.
[12:03] <bekks> DonkeyHotei: After reformatting, the filesystem changed entirely, because it was rebuilt clean. So it cant have the same errors.
[12:03] <DonkeyHotei> bekks: tell that to ikonia
[12:03] <ikonia> win5hit if you stress your machine - round trips will increase as there will be "wait"
[12:03] <bekks> DonkeyHotei: I tell it to you. I know ikonia already knows it pretty well.
[12:03] <ikonia> DonkeyHotei your description of the original problem "ext4 crapped itself" is nonsense, I asked you to clarify what it means
[12:03] <win5hit> yes. but not like this
[12:03] <SaberX01> DonkeyHotei, That's not what or why he said what he did.
[12:04] <ikonia> DonkeyHotei: because file systems don't "crap themselves" - so you may have a more serious problem, hence why you are now getting a segfault
[12:04] <win5hit> from <1ms increase to >10s is not common
[12:04] <DonkeyHotei> ikonia: my experience differs
[12:05] <SaberX01> win5hit, so, in Win, when you stressign the RAM, your Ping times increase dramatically as well ?
[12:05] <win5hit> back to the original question, can i bechmark a ramdisk with bonnie++? (somehow)
[12:05] <win5hit> SaberX01: yes, rtts increase when i stress ram under windows. but i can't tell about linux because i wasn't able to put stress on ram
[12:06] <ikonia> win5hit: a ram disk is a file system held in ram - not the same as testing ram
[12:06] <win5hit> thats why i'm trying to run bonnie++ on a ramdisk
[12:06] <hitsujiTMO> !attitude | DonkeyHotei ikonia is trying to give you sound advice. Normally you don't see multiple unrelated errors. You should be checking first for an underlying common issue
[12:06] <win5hit> i doesn't matter if its the same as long as it's producing load on the ram
[12:06] <DonkeyHotei> i'm here because i can't figure out why fglrx won't start, not because i blew away the filesystem
[12:06] <ikonia> win5hit: it does matter if it's the same
[12:06] <SaberX01> win5hit, this may work, jsut ahve to create a ramfs first: http://www.jamescoyle.net/how-to/599-benchmark-disk-io-with-dd-and-bonnie
[12:07] <ikonia> disk IO testing is not the same as testing ram
[12:07] <win5hit> i've already created one, but i can't run bonnie on it
[12:07] <SaberX01> No, but I dont think you can ramfs test wihtout some level of Disk I/O happening.
[12:07] <win5hit> ikonia: but if the "Disk" is held in ram entirely... it's putting stress on ram, right? ;)
[12:07] <ikonia> more so when you're running from a livecd - that is already HELD IN RAM !!
[12:08] <ikonia> win5hit: wrong
[12:08] <ikonia> win5hit: more so from a livecd
[12:08] <ikonia> I'm off
[12:09] <win5hit> ikonia: I'm sorry, i can see you are annoied, it's not my attitude. i don't want to get acutal write speed values or smth. i just want to put stress on ram
[12:09] <bekks> win5hit: then run a memtest.
[12:10] <DonkeyHotei> win5hit: a time-tested way to put stress on ram is to recompile the kernel in a loop
[12:10] <hitsujiTMO> win5hit: if you "stress test" with ramfs you'll only end up locking up the kernel. As ramfs will eat everything it can can your kernel will lock up once you run out of ram
[12:10] <SaberX01> Memtest loads the ram more than any ramfs or liveCD ever would, it's designed for max utilization.
[12:10] <ikonia> bekks: honeslty...just walk away, he wants to measure ping round trips, while putting load on the ram - using a file system i/o loader ?????
[12:11] <win5hit> ok. i've already let memtest86 run several passes. i didn't get errors. but i can't tell if latencies increased because if i boot into memtest86 i've got no nics / ips to ping
[12:11] <bekks> ikonia: yeah, thats the best thing to do - walking away. I dont see the reason for his I/O stuff in RAM until now, too.
[12:11] <ikonia> bekks it's just stupid giving a false data result driven test,
[12:11] <win5hit> hitsujiTMO: i've chosen tmpfs and set the size to 50% ram size
[12:11] <bekks> ikonia: yeah.
[12:12] <DonkeyHotei> win5hit: memtest86 passes bad ram all the time
[12:12] <hitsujiTMO> win5hit: tmpfs utilises swap where possible. again will not do what you want
[12:12] <bekks> DonkeyHotei: memtest86 tests all the ram, it doesnt omit "bad" ram.
[12:13] <gordonjcp> "bad RAM" doesn't really exist any more
[12:13] <gordonjcp> it either works, or it doesn't
[12:13] <DonkeyHotei> bekks: let me rephrase that. it tests ram and the tests pass even when the ram has failed
[12:13] <gordonjcp> if the RAM is "bad" the machine generally won't even start POST
[12:13] <gordonjcp> DonkeyHotei: rubbish
[12:13] <win5hit> I've read the german wiki page. and there is written that i will keep data in memory as long as you are not going low on memory. thats why i only picked 50% of ram size
[12:13] <bekks> DonkeyHotei: Of course the tests pass, but you get the error messages what exactly couldnt be teste successfully.
[12:14] <gordonjcp> win5hit: that won't be enough to allow the system to hibernate, if you care about that
[12:14] <Eagleman7> I am getting the following error: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[12:14] <win5hit> gordonjcp: i don't care about that
[12:14] <gordonjcp> win5hit: why bother with swap then?
[12:14] <Eagleman7> I am getting the following error: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[12:14] <hitsujiTMO> win5hit, then you're not "stressing" the ram and invalidates your test
[12:15] <ikonia> Eagleman7 you've said that...
[12:15] <Eagleman7> Anything i can do to authenticate them?
[12:15] <ikonia> hitsujiTMO the whole test is wrong - but he doesn't seem to want to accept it
[12:15] <win5hit> gordonjcp: because i didn't find a flag to set a specific size for ramfs
[12:15] <ikonia> Eagleman7 which packages are they from which repo
[12:15] <demon^eye> what program should i use to open a chain RAR`s files?
[12:16] <gordonjcp> demon^eye: unrar
[12:16] <hitsujiTMO> Eagleman7: can you pastebin the output of: sudo apt-get update
[12:16] <gordonjcp> win5hit: are you using ramfs?
[12:16] <allstarsnorks2> Hi guys
[12:16] <demon^eye> winrar?
[12:16] <demon^eye> i mean winrar for linux?
[12:16] <gordonjcp> demon^eye: unrar - read it carefully
[12:16] <allstarsnorks2> I am having a problem install gdm in my install of Ubuntu Server 13.10.
[12:17] <gordonjcp> allstarsnorks2: why are you installing gdm on a server?
[12:18] <demon^eye> gordonjcp, : u mean Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version) ?
[12:18] <win5hit> gordonjcp: nope, right now i'm using tmpfs (because i didn't find a way to limit size of ramfs)
[12:18] <demon^eye> gordonjcp, : i taking it from Ubuntu software center
[12:18] <Eagleman7> ikonia, yeh had some problems with my ZNC: http://lpaste.net/8511464637558947840
[12:19] <gordonjcp> demon^eye: there should be a program called "unrar" in there.  I don't know what "u" is.
[12:19] <DonkeyHotei> demon^eye: just open the file and it should work, nothing special needed
[12:19] <ikonia> Eagleman7: your plex repo is pointing at the wrong release, which isn't a good start
[12:19] <Eagleman7> Seemed like running apt-get update fixed the authenticate issue
[12:19] <demon^eye> gordonjcp, : there isnt...
[12:20] <spud__> I've my "video" directory, months ago I deleted from there some videos, and now I wish to try to recover that (to check if maybe they still exists), is there a way to do a "ls" from a directory to see files that in the past was there?
[12:20] <demon^eye> DonkeyHotei, : open with what ? "file roller" ?
[12:20] <gordonjcp> demon^eye: "apt-cache search unrar"
[12:20] <DonkeyHotei> demon^eye: yes
[12:20] <gordonjcp> demon^eye: what do you see?
[12:20] <demon^eye> DonkeyHotei,  : 10x so i am set ... hate terminal commands ;)
[12:21] <allstarsnorks2_> like I said, I was installing GNOME on my install of Ubuntu Server.
[12:21] <demon^eye> gordonjcp, : sec will tell ya
[12:21] <DonkeyHotei> allstarsnorks2_: you never got to say why
[12:22] <sandhu> hi sir ,,, how to recover deleted photos from 10.10 ubuntu pl tell me ,,,i m in big trouble
[12:22] <gordonjcp> sandhu: photorec, testdisk
[12:22] <sandhu> how to download it
[12:22] <demon^eye> gordonjcp,  : i see dead ppl :D kidding i see that "unrar - Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)" and "unrar-free - Unarchiver for .rar files" and "unp - unpack (almost) everything with one comman "
[12:23] <DonkeyHotei> sandhu: boot with a live cd, use photorec
[12:23] <SaberX01> spud__,  not going to be an easy task.
[12:23] <hitsujiTMO> sandhu: boot a 12.04 live cd
[12:23] <SaberX01> !undelete | spud__
[12:23] <gordonjcp> demon^eye: pick one, probably unrar
[12:23] <sandhu> i m not having it
[12:23] <demon^eye> gordonjcp,  : i am using ubuntu 12 LTS default
[12:24] <demon^eye> gordonjcp,  :10x , any software to grab youtube vids and convert them inti mp4?
[12:24] <demon^eye> into
[12:24] <demon^eye> sry but i am new :)
[12:24] <hitsujiTMO> sandhu: you need to be using a supported version on ubuntu to be able to install any recovery tools. so you should boot 12.04 live iso
[12:24] <sandhu> sir  i m nt having boot cd
[12:25] <DonkeyHotei> demon^eye: i like "youtube hd suite" for that. search for it on the web
[12:25] <demon^eye> BTW : i am fighting my ass up to stick to linux (ubuntu ) and dont fall back to windows
[12:25] <demon^eye> DonkeyHotei, : many 10x also much respect :)
[12:25] <demon^eye> DonkeyHotei, : is it free?
[12:26] <hitsujiTMO> demon^eye: youtube-dl to download youtube vids. ffmpeg or avconc to convert
[12:26] <DonkeyHotei> just download it
[12:26] <sandhu> actually sir i m using ubuntu n windows 7 on same pc ,,,is it possible to recover it
[12:26] <bekks> sandhu: dualbooting or wubi?
[12:26] <thom_r> demon eye, I use All Video Downloader
[12:27] <sandhu> u r not getting it ,,,,,
[12:27] <bekks> sandhu: Unless you answer it, no.
[12:27] <SaberX01> Indeed
[12:27] <demon^eye> hitsujiTMO, : all software i grab from ubuntu software center?
[12:28] <sandhu> i have lost all my photos on  ubuntu 10.10,,,,i m asking how to recover it
[12:28] <thom_r> demon^eye: use All Video Downloader.
[12:28] <DonkeyHotei> i answered what i was asked, and i got shoved aside
[12:28] <hitsujiTMO> demon^eye: all commandline software from ubuntu software centre
[12:28] <SaberX01> demon^eye, have a look at file-roller, I think that's a defautl install on UB and it has like 10 formats, rar being one of them.
[12:28] <bekks> sandhu: Use a 12.04 livecd.
[12:28] <bekks> sandhu: It has been said multiple times.
[12:28] <cfhowlett> !recover|sandhu,
[12:28] <demon^eye> SaberX01, : noted 10x :)
[12:29] <demon^eye> hitsujiTMO,  : i dont see any "avconc" on ubuntu software center...
[12:30] <hitsujiTMO> demon^eye: youtube-dl will also most likely grab an mp4. it automatically pulls the best quality
[12:30] <hitsujiTMO> demon^eye: libav-tools i think it is. I prefer ffmpeg, but thats deprecated on ubuntu
[12:31] <thom_r> demon^eye: All Video Downloader will convert youtube videos to MP4 after you download it
[12:31] <sandhu> from where to get 12.04 livecd
[12:31] <bekks> sandhu: from www.ubuntu.com
[12:31] <thom_r> andgu: Ubuntu.com
[12:31] <thom_r> sandhu: ubuntu.com
[12:32] <demon^eye> thom_r, : any example for software name?
[12:32] <SaberX01> yeah, libav-tools provides avconc . dont see ti as a stand alone though.
[12:32] <demon^eye> hitsujiTMO,  : where can i d.l youtube-dl from ?
[12:32] <thom_r> demon^eye: All Video Downloader is the name of the program
[12:32] <bekks> !info youtube-dl
[12:32] <DonkeyHotei> now, anyone have any idea what i missed installing that fglrx needs to not segfault?
[12:33] <hitsujiTMO> demon^eye: sudo apt-get installl youtube-dl
[12:33] <bekks> demon^eye: from the official repos.
[12:33] <demon^eye> thom_r,  : i can use script from user script also ... within chrome , but i prefer a software
[12:33] <hitsujiTMO> demon^eye: youtube-dl is rediculously simple you use as well as being rediculously reliable
[12:34] <win5hit> YES :) i finally ended up downloading a packet called stress, which is able to stress ram :) and: i can watch the same problem like running windows. so it's an operating system independet problem. mission accomplished. thanks
[12:34] <thom_r> demon^eye: open the software center and search for All Video Downloader
[12:34] <demon^eye> hitsujiTMO,  : sudo apt-get installl youtube-dl doesnt work ...
[12:34] <thom_r> that is exactly what you are looking for
[12:34] <hitsujiTMO> demon^eye: sudo apt-get install youtube-dl
[12:34] <hitsujiTMO> demom: soo for the extra l
[12:34] <hitsujiTMO> sorry*
[12:34] <demon^eye> thom_r, : already do that , 2 many , just want to get 1 which most ppl use
[12:35] <thom_r> huh
[12:35] <thom_r> who cares what most people use, if it works it works
[12:35]  * DonkeyHotei drops a llama
[12:35] <demon^eye> thom_r, : what most use is working right ? that my idea :D
[12:35] <SaberX01> there's a Filter, for most popular or something like that in SW Center.
[12:35] <thom_r> if you're worried about what most people use then switch back to Windows
[12:36] <cfhowlett> demon^eye, statistically speaking, most people are idiots ...
[12:36] <demon^eye> LOL
[12:36] <bekks> cfhowlett: millions of flies cant be wrong... ;)
[12:36] <ewook> thom_r: That's really not a good advice.
[12:36] <cfhowlett> demon^eye, see thom_r's advice
[12:36] <SaberX01> cfhowlett, thats too fummy :-)
[12:36] <DonkeyHotei> cfhowlett: i feel like an idiot for asking for help in this channel
[12:36] <demon^eye> thom_r, : i mean what most ppl uses in linux... so it must working that it
[12:37] <thom_r> install All Video Downloader from the software center
[12:37] <SaberX01> Best and Most Popular not always same thing either.
[12:37] <cfhowlett> DonkeyHotei, I hope I've never given you cause to feel that way.  This is a LEARNING channel, so I welcome questions
[12:37] <thom_r> it does exactly what you want
[12:37] <demon^eye> DonkeyHotei,  : idiot in one area doesnt make a human idiot
[12:38] <DonkeyHotei> demon^eye: we all have our strengths and weaknesses
[12:38] <demon^eye> anyhow ... is there any partition bacup for linux?
[12:38] <ewook> demon^eye: several.
[12:38] <ewook> !dd
[12:38] <demon^eye> DonkeyHotei,  : yes , linux is only a minor side of life isnit? :)
[12:38] <demon^eye> ewook, : can u point some?
[12:39] <ewook> demon^eye: dd is one option.
[12:39] <hitsujiTMO> demon^eye: dd
[12:39] <demon^eye> dd ...
[12:39] <DonkeyHotei> well, at this moment, linux is what's giving me trouble in life
[12:39] <ewook> demon^eye: there's plenty of live cd's that makes it easy. clonezilla should be one.
[12:39] <hitsujiTMO> demon^eye: dd -> disk destroyer.       allows you to raw read a block device and write it to a file
[12:39] <demon^eye> DonkeyHotei,  : how come?
[12:39] <k1l_> demon^eye: if you ask for a unspecific one, dont blame others if you dont like the answer. make specific questions, that will lead to better answers
[12:39] <demon^eye> where can i d.l dd ?
[12:40] <DonkeyHotei> dd is a preinstalled command
[12:40] <ewook> demon^eye: normally you already have it.
[12:40] <demon^eye> haa
[12:40] <k1l_> demon^eye: dd is already included in ubuntu. just see "man dd" for the manual page
[12:40] <ewook> demon^eye: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_%28Unix%29
[12:40] <SaberX01> dd is part of core-utils
[12:41] <demon^eye> ic ... a command line software
[12:41] <hitsujiTMO> demon^eye: you can also pipe dd to gzip if you want a compressed image of the drive
[12:42] <demon^eye> K1l : i like everybody reply , i am not in a position to decide what good or bad atm... :)
[12:43] <demon^eye> hitsujiTMO,  : 10x... noted (when i be more advanced :D )
[12:43] <ewook> demon^eye: most useful things are commandline tools.
[12:43] <ewook> demon^eye: and sometimes they get a graphic wrapper.
[12:44] <demon^eye> ic ...
[12:44] <ewook> demon^eye: look up clonezilla's live cd if you wanna look at something graphical.
[12:44] <demon^eye> i dont mind command line but for backup/restore hd... its look little dangerous for newbie like me
[12:45] <demon^eye> ....clonezilla
[12:45] <ewook> demon^eye: I think that's the name of it. there are several around :).
[12:45] <hitsujiTMO> demon^eye: it unfortunately can be. clonezilla is a popular alternative
[12:45] <demon^eye> ewook, : where can i d/l it from?
[12:46] <ewook> demon^eye: www.clonezilla.org :)
[12:46] <demon^eye> ewook,  : gotya :D
[12:46] <hitsujiTMO> demon^eye: ubuntu sofware centre. sudo apt-get install clonezilla
[12:46] <ewook> hitsujiTMO: not really recommended if he wants the livecd
[12:47] <hitsujiTMO> ewook: you can install stuff on the ubuntu live cd too
[12:47] <ewook> hitsujiTMO: Thus, doing backups of full partitions should be done while the system is not alive.
[12:47] <Guest49724> Hello all, I am wondering if it is possible to move the unity bar to the bottom of the screen on 64 bit Ubuntu 13.10
[12:47] <demon^eye> hitsujiTMO, : why idnot see clonezilla in ubucenter threw the "search" in the graphic way?
[12:47] <SaberX01> !backup | demon^eye, some other alternatives
[12:47] <ewook> hitsujiTMO: sure, but that means you have to do more stuff, than simply download an is.
[12:48] <ewook> SaberX01: nice ;)
[12:48] <hitsujiTMO> demon^eye: not use. i always install from commandline
[12:48] <ewook> hitsujiTMO: an iso even.
[12:48] <demon^eye> many 10x pips i wont ask at backup / restore atm its more advanced action than i am now..
[12:49] <hitsujiTMO> ewook: but he already has an iso - the ubuntu one. just needs to install clonzezilla :P
[12:49] <demon^eye> really respect your help... i will be back to "bother" you :)
[12:49] <bekks> demon^eye: then start reading the articles linked :)
[12:49] <ewook> hitsujiTMO: oh? Missed that part. sorry :)
[12:49] <demon^eye> bekks,  : i will ... i just ask some general question , just to know where did i land :D
[12:49] <ewook> demon^eye: that is what this channel is for ;)
[12:50] <demon^eye> not easy to switch from win to that
[12:50] <hitsujiTMO> ewook: how else could he have installed ubuntu?
[12:50] <ewook> hitsujiTMO: I thought he already had. :)
[12:50] <demon^eye> ewook,  : yep ..! but i dont like to bother ppl with RTFM question...
[12:50] <hitsujiTMO> ewook: yes. but he still has the iso :p
[12:51] <ewook> demon^eye: hah, well - that's why there's a bot in here prepped with FAQ/commonly asked questions :).
[12:51] <SaberX01> could have been a Net / PXE install .. tho unlikely :-)
[12:51] <ewook> hitsujiTMO: mjees. that that means starting to install something, that he needs to reinstall the second time he loads up the iso :)
[12:51] <ewook> SaberX01: I love my pxe ;)
[12:52] <demon^eye> ewook, : how do i axx the boot... to see some :D
[12:52] <demon^eye> all ic is links in the topic
[12:52] <ewook> demon^eye: Sorry, what boot?
[12:53] <SaberX01> think he means bot
[12:53] <ewook> oh!
[12:53] <SaberX01> hows does he as ubottu
[12:53] <SaberX01> *ask
[12:53] <demon^eye> BOT  < my mistake
[12:53] <ewook> SaberX01: would you mind introducing him to ubottu? :)
[12:53] <win5hit> thanks for your help, have a nice day!
[12:53] <ewook> demon^eye: no worries :).
[12:54] <demon^eye> got some e book on linux (in the basement :D ) time to pull up the big canon :D
[12:54] <demon^eye> be back
[12:55] <DonkeyHotei> the canonical canon
[12:55] <SaberX01> ewook, I a noob with ubottu ..
[12:55] <ewook> SaberX01: I keep forgetting everything.. and they have changed his triggers over the years as well :p.
[12:56] <SaberX01> !ubottu | demon^eye
[12:56] <ewook> Weey. Awesome! Better read up myself :p.
[12:59] <SaberX01> In the old days of Linux 1.x.x kernel days, you had to read for days to do anything, now, you do anything in minutes, and nobody ever read about things it seems.
[12:59] <fpghost84> Hi, I seem to be getting a number of ACPI errors in my syslog, and am trying to determine if they are anything to worry about or not. For example:  "ACPI Error: Gpe0Block - 32-bit FADT register is too long (32 bytes, 256 bits) to convert to GAS struct - 255 bits max, truncating (20121018/tbfadt-201)"
[13:00] <k1l_> !away > exdis
[13:00] <SaberX01> I think anyone wanting to really use Linux, should do the LFS project at least once through just to leant about things you never would otherwise.
[13:01] <ewook> Agreed :).
[13:01] <DonkeyHotei> most people aren't into learning
[13:01] <ewook> Agreed as well :(
[13:01] <k1l_> SaberX01: i think we are past that days, where you needed to be a "linux guru" to use linux. its a desktop OS now, for desktops users
[13:02] <bekks> fpghost84: Looks like a broken BIOS and/or a broken ACPI DSDT table. The only chances are updating your BIOS and/or building a custom DSDT table (which can be complicated and very time consuming).
[13:02] <SaberX01> fpghost84, May want to looky here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-lts-raring/+bug/1262033
[13:02] <ewook> k1l_: Nah, it can be - but still, if you really wanna use something - not just gnu/linux, you have to roll up your sleves at some point.
[13:03] <SaberX01> k1l_, I know, it's a point and click thing now days, but folks are missing so much good stuff ..
[13:03] <elimik31> My brother and I are visiting our parents and somehow my brother with his Ubuntu laptop can't get into the wifi of my parents even though I with my debian Laptop can. At home and university he had no problems getting into the wifi. He has a Lenovo Thinkpad Edge E535. Using a live CD/USB he actually does manage to get into the wifi, but reinstalling Ubuntu didn't change anything. He still can't get into it. What might the problem be?
[13:03] <yassine23> hi
[13:03] <ikonia> elimik31 dependson the error / situation
[13:04] <elimik31> My brother and I are visiting our parents and somehow my brother with his Ubuntu laptop can't get into the wifi of my parents even though I with my debian Laptop can. At home and university he had no problems getting into the wifi. He has a Lenovo Thinkpad Edge E535. Using a live CD/USB he actually does manage to get into the wifi, but reinstalling Ubuntu didn't change anything. He still can't get into it. What might the problem be?
[13:04] <yassine23> i an new in ric chat
[13:04] <ikonia> elimik31: I've just responded to you - you don't need to repeat the whole question again
[13:04] <hitsujiTMO> elimik31: not sure the best course of action to test. but i'd put my money on network manager being the cause
[13:04] <ObrienDave> elimik31, first two things to check, is the laptop wi-fi on? is the security key entered properly?
[13:05] <fpghost84> thanks bekks and SaberX01. I have updated the BIOS to the latest one already (1.53 from Lenovo website for Thinkpad S540). How severe is this I wonder? What problems might it lead to? I know nothing about custom DSDT tables
[13:05] <ewook> hitsujiTMO: since the livecd does not come with the latest versions but his laptop might have it, I'd bet my money on what hitsujiTMO said.
[13:06] <DonkeyHotei> still boggles my mind that network manager connections cannot be managed without a gui
[13:06] <SaberX01> fpghost84, ditto, just know it's kernel thing, that's about it, seems to be hitting several Dell's but that's all I can really get from it.
[13:06] <ikonia> they can be managed without a gui
[13:07] <DonkeyHotei> ikonia: with what?
[13:07] <ikonia> there is the network-manager app - or the interfaces file directly, or the ifconfig/ip/iwconfig commands
[13:07] <JaredForTheWin> Wait..I thought there was also a QuakeNet #ubuntu?
[13:07] <hitsujiTMO> DonkeyHotei: nmcli
[13:07] <DonkeyHotei> the network manager app requires a gui
[13:07] <ikonia> DonkeyHotei no it doesn't
[13:07] <ikonia> DonkeyHotei: that is the network-manager application, the gnome-network-manager is the gui
[13:07] <DonkeyHotei> hitsujiTMO: nmcli cannot create wifi connections
[13:07] <fpghost84> SaverX01: I also get the "ACPI Error: [\_SB_.PCI0.GFX0.DD02._BCL] Namespace lookup failure, AE_NOT_FOUND (20121018/psargs-359)" error like on the Dell bug report too, interesting....
[13:08] <bekks> DonkeyHotei: It doesnt. It provides a command line interface.
[13:08] <bekks> DonkeyHotei: It can.
[13:08] <DonkeyHotei> ikonia: by gui i mean xorg
[13:08] <elimik31> I haven't managed to mention that he can see other wifi networks, but just can't "see" this one...
[13:08] <ikonia> DonkeyHotei: it doesn't need xorg
[13:08] <ikonia> DonkeyHotei: I think you need to do a bit of catch up reading
[13:09] <DonkeyHotei> i read the whole manpage and tried nmcli. the manpage even says specifically nmcli cannot connect to wifi
[13:10] <ikonia> DonkeyHotei: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/man1/nmcli.1.html
[13:10] <bekks> DonkeyHotei: Read this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/8322/use-network-manager-to-connect-to-a-wifi-access-point-on-the-command-line
[13:11] <elmosanches> hi everybody. I've started using Ranger. can somebody tell me how to change default text editor?
[13:11] <JaredForTheWin> Is Ranger a operating system, or default text editor?
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> !info ranger
[13:12] <DonkeyHotei> ikonia: the manpage on precise is different, and i quote:
[13:12] <hitsujiTMO> elimik31: as in its doesn't show up in the scan?
[13:12] <ikonia> DonkeyHotei don't need a quote - I don't doubt you
[13:12] <elmosanches> !info ranger
[13:12] <DonkeyHotei> However, if a connection
[13:12] <DonkeyHotei>            requires a secret to activate and if that secret is not stored at
[13:12] <DonkeyHotei>            the system level, nmcli will not be able to activate it; it is
[13:12] <DonkeyHotei>            currently unable to supply the needed secrets to NetworkManager.
[13:12] <ikonia> DonkeyHotei: however that is not the case, and there is also the interfaces file, or the ifconfig/ip/iwconfig commadns that can do it
[13:12] <SaberX01> elmosanches, sudo update-alternatives --config editor
[13:12] <ikonia> DonkeyHotei: basically no need for a gui,
[13:13] <JaredForTheWin> elmosanches: honestly just use Nautilus, it comes with Ubuntu and is just good
[13:13] <elmosanches> SaberX01: first thing I did. no result
[13:13] <hitsujiTMO> elimik31: from his machine can you get us the result of: lspci
[13:14] <elmosanches> JaredForTheWin: mmmm  niah
[13:14] <hitsujiTMO> elimik31: sorry, from his machine can you get us the result of: lspci -nn
[13:14] <elimik31> and, at least as he tells me, using the "connect with a hidden network" didn't help as well
[13:14] <freshmint> hey, can i set a default upload rate for my ssh server? im doing sftp from a windows machine and file transfer is kind of slow
[13:14] <SaberX01> elmosanches, Interesting, plan be, right click a file, properties, open-with (select or Add)
[13:14] <DonkeyHotei> ifconfig/ip/iwconfig cannot create a Network Manager connection
[13:14] <SaberX01> Plan-B
[13:14] <XATRIX> How can i see the startup services order ?
[13:15] <XATRIX> Is there any visual ?
[13:15] <pcpcpc> Hi there. I am trying to get my crypted data, because i cannot pass the login screen.
[13:15] <pcpcpc> I already did ecryptfs-recover-private, and now there is: "Private data mounted read-only at /tmp/ecryptfs. ...."
[13:15] <pcpcpc> What can i do now with this data?
[13:16] <hitsujiTMO> XATRIX: thats dependant on the type of service
[13:16] <SaberX01> XATRIX,  initctl list  .. but Im not 100% is that's start order.
[13:16] <elmosanches> SaberX01: what you talkin about?
[13:17] <SaberX01> elmosanches, Plan-B for changing editors ..
[13:17] <XATRIX> SaberX01: i think my services start order is different on 2 nodes, so my node2 doesn't send APRs when it get's back online and annouce itself to the cluster
[13:18] <SaberX01> elmosanches, Plan-C .. install / use dconf-editor and change it there.
[13:18] <elmosanches> SaberX01: global editor setting have no impact on what ranger picks up
[13:19] <SaberX01> elmosanches, It's under favorites, but OK, I give up.
[13:19] <DonkeyHotei> anyone around who can help with fglrx?
[13:19] <k1l_> !details |  DonkeyHotei
[13:20] <pcpcpc> Hi there. I am trying to get my crypted data, because i cannot pass the login screen.
[13:20] <pcpcpc> I already did ecryptfs-recover-private, and now there is: "Private data mounted read-only at /tmp/ecryptfs. ...."
[13:20] <pcpcpc> How can I get through to my data or copy it?
[13:21] <JaredForTheWin> pcpcpc: Do you remember if the crypted data was copyable?
[13:21] <pcpcpc> no i dont know, its the whole home data
[13:21] <hitsujiTMO> XATRIX: you have 2 types of serive init processes running. sysv and upstart. sysv uses a sequence number, upstart has a more dynamic event driven system
[13:22] <XATRIX> hitsujiTMO: Seems like i have systemd
[13:22] <DonkeyHotei> k1l_: I have a problem with xorg aborting with signal 11. I'm running Ubuntu version 12.04.3 LTS. When I try to start X, it aborts. I get the following output: (pastebin forthcoming) but I expected X not to crash
[13:22] <XATRIX> I'm using Ubuntu-server 13.10
[13:22] <gordonjcp> XATRIX: every time you pop up in the channel I want to play Quake
[13:22] <k1l_> DonkeyHotei: how are you tryiing to start x? start the lightdm and see what error it brings
[13:22] <hitsujiTMO> XATRIX: no, no you don't
[13:23] <XATRIX> gordonjcp: go ahead
[13:23] <DonkeyHotei> k1l_: lightdm not installed, using xinit
[13:23] <pcpcpc> JaredForTheWin: no i dont know, its the whole home data
[13:23] <k1l_> DonkeyHotei: :/
[13:23] <SaberX01> xinit .. why ?
[13:23] <DonkeyHotei> SaberX01: it's a headless machine
[13:24] <k1l_> DonkeyHotei: that are  some important details
[13:24] <SaberX01> Im on a headless machine now .. I still dont understand why xinit
[13:24] <DonkeyHotei> the machine worked fine before i had to reinstall, xinit and all
[13:25] <SaberX01> DonkeyHotei, why would I want a X-System init for a headless server?
[13:25] <DonkeyHotei> SaberX01: X has to be running for gpgpu with fglrx
[13:26] <SaberX01> DonkeyHotei, is this like a VM server or something, if no monitor, why would I care about fglrx ?
[13:26] <JaredForTheWin> pcpcpc: if you remember the decryption key or password to decrypt the files, good. set up a Live USB or Live CD, boot from that, press Try Ubuntu, get to your files
[13:26] <DonkeyHotei> SaberX01: X has to be running for gpgpu with fglrx
[13:27] <elimik31> this is the output of the "lscpi -nn" command: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6639579/
[13:27] <SaberX01> DonkeyHotei, New one on me, I use init.d and upstart ..
[13:27] <Mistress_Artemis> hi i want to find a bondage channel, can anyone help me?
[13:27] <SaberX01> No
[13:28] <MonkeyDust> !alis | Mistress_Artemis
[13:28] <DonkeyHotei> SaberX01: i'm starting xinit from init.d
[13:28] <JaredForTheWin> Holy crap.
[13:28] <SaberX01> On a headless server .. ok
[13:28] <JaredForTheWin> I did a Alis List for ubuntu...
[13:29] <JaredForTheWin> THE CHANNELS!
[13:29] <aleksejs_> Hi, I have a problem with skype on xubuntu. When I try to log in it shows "you are already loggen in on this computer". But there's no any skype instance in process list. I've tried to delete ~/.Skype/shared.*, didn't help
[13:30] <aleksejs_> Any ideas?
[13:30] <cfhowlett> aleksejs_, I'd suggest sudo apt-get purge skype then do a reinstall
[13:30] <JaredForTheWin> aleksejs_: I think there's a Xubuntu channel, go ask there
[13:31] <gordonjcp> aleksejs_: aha, are the permissions correct for .Skype?
[13:31] <cfhowlett> aleksejs_, stay with us, this is a common problem
[13:31] <gordonjcp> aleksejs_: also try "mv .Skype/ .Skype-old"
[13:31] <hitsujiTMO> elimik31: can you also give the output of: lspci -knn
[13:31] <gordonjcp> skype is horrible and has rubbish error messages
[13:31] <gordonjcp> I don't know why people use it
[13:31] <kai__370> hi all. When i put "console log" in my  upstart script. Will also be output of processes that have been launched by my service be logged? Thanks!
[13:32] <DonkeyHotei> gordonjcp: because there STILL isn't any free equivalent
[13:32] <ewook> DonkeyHotei: there's not?
[13:32] <ewook> DonkeyHotei: really? :)
[13:33] <JaredForTheWin> donkeyhotei: there is a free equivalent. Google+ Hangouts and all the video chat stuff Google made.
[13:33] <DonkeyHotei> closest is jitsi, and it's not very usable
[13:33] <MonkeyDust> because it's the mainstream and 98% of the computer users know only what's mainstream
[13:33] <SaberX01> gordonjcp, cuz its a cheap phone .. but I agree, think it's rubbish too.
[13:33] <DonkeyHotei> Google+ is non-free
[13:33] <ewook> DonkeyHotei: but that is still on skype/msn network, no?
[13:33] <MonkeyDust> but it's google
[13:33] <gordonjcp> DonkeyHotei: why do people use it at all, leaving free and non-free out?
[13:33] <JaredForTheWin> Yes it is, donkey
[13:33] <gordonjcp> I don't get the point of it
[13:33] <pcpcpc> JaredForTheWin: i switched my pw with passwd and then i couldnt get through the login screen anymore, but new pw was correct... - i raed that but i do not have my old pw http://askubuntu.com/a/280186....... i mean "ecryptfs-recover-private" says the data is mounted read-only at tmp - isnt this usefull or isnt it possible to get it from there?
[13:33] <aleksejs_> ok, after deleting ~/.Skype I could log in
[13:34] <thiker> how to install epel on ubuntu?
[13:34] <DonkeyHotei> gordonjcp: because it works
[13:34] <gordonjcp> SaberX01: phones are cheap phones, why not just use a phone?
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> thiker  what's epel?
[13:34] <trevorj> thiker: epel is for rpm based distros
[13:34] <hitsujiTMO> DonkeyHotei: then go write your own. its really easy http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/webrtc/basics/
[13:34] <JaredForTheWin> next time just use google+ hangouts, they are free
[13:34] <gordonjcp> DonkeyHotei: why not just use a phone?
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> or go outside and meet actual people
[13:35] <LjL> gordonjcp: uh, i'm not really sure why you're under the impression phone calls (not to mention video calls) are cheap...
[13:35] <gordonjcp> LjL: they're free, not cheap
[13:35] <LjL> gordonjcp: uhm no?
[13:35] <gordonjcp> okay, if I call internationally it's like 6p a minute
[13:35] <DonkeyHotei> how do you get video on your phone? skype.
[13:35] <trevorj> DonkeyHotei: hangouts
[13:36] <gordonjcp> I don't really care about video
[13:36] <LjL> gordonjcp: i pay more than 6p a minute to call locally.
[13:36] <SaberX01> gordonjcp, I dont know, I dont own or use either one, no cell, voip, skypy nadda .. no interest in them at all.
[13:36] <LjL> gordonjcp: so maybe other people are in different situations from you, and that's why they use whatever they use
[13:36] <aleksejs_> gordonjcp, I know that skype is a crap, but I'm using it because of several reasons, one of them is work
[13:36] <JaredForTheWin> how do you get video on your iPhone?
[13:36] <JaredForTheWin> FaceTime.
[13:36] <gordonjcp> SaberX01: so how do you phone out for pizza? ;-)
[13:36] <SaberX01> I dont :-)
[13:36] <gordonjcp> LjL: wth, where are you?
[13:36] <JaredForTheWin> oh wait you all dropped your iPhones in the water
[13:36] <trevorj> JaredForTheWin: or hangouts =P
[13:36] <LjL> gordonjcp: i'm in italy
[13:36] <pcpcpc> JaredForTheWin: so i dont have the login passphrase to decrypt because its awaiting the old one, the mount passphrase is empty so is correct
[13:37] <gordonjcp> LjL: hm, expensive phones there then?
[13:37] <trevorj> cross platform > single platform restrictions
[13:37] <SaberX01> gordonjcp, Im almost 30 miles from the nearest town, they'd be pissed if I ahd them deliver up the mountain here.. LOL
[13:37] <gordonjcp> LjL: I've only had a mobile for a good few years
[13:37] <aleksejs_> and Google services are not free, they are free of charge
[13:37] <gordonjcp> SaberX01: and you don't have a phone at all?
[13:37] <SaberX01> Nope
[13:37] <gordonjcp> LjL: stopped bothering with a landline years ago
[13:38] <SaberX01> I have a Sat Phone fer like emergencys' but, not used it in 5 yrs.
[13:38] <elimik31> the output of "lscpi -knn": http://paste.ubuntu.com/6639627/
[13:38] <LjL> gordonjcp, we've only recently-ish even started having "flatrate" plans for landlines, instead of paying by the minute for local and long-distance calls separately. on cellphones, it's worse, although we also have flatrates on them now, which can be cheapish, but it does depend on how much a person calls (i don't really call very much at all, so it's actually alright for me). but, most of my actual friends are online and located abroad anyway
[13:39] <JaredForTheWin> pcpcpc: first off, we know what your password is, good job,mate. second off, you are starting to waste my time.
[13:39] <cfhowlett> !ot
[13:40] <SaberX01> Where did that EPEL question go, I missed that one, isn't that like CentOS / RH stuff?
[13:40] <JaredForTheWin> SaberX01, GordonJCP, LjL, it sounds like you may want to head on over to ubuntu-offtopic
[13:40] <SaberX01> Im already logged in there ..
[13:41] <hitsujiTMO> elimik31: looks like drivers not loaded. please try: printf "blacklist b43\nblacklist wl\n" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[13:42] <JaredForTheWin> !guidelines
[13:42] <SaberX01> Im aware of them thanks.
[13:42] <JaredForTheWin> maybe later
[13:44] <JaredForTheWin> I only bet you guys are going to lol at this..
[13:44] <ObrienDave> !ot
[13:45] <LjL> uh
[13:50] <DonkeyHotei> here is my backtrace: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=3HXFfG1F
[13:53] <hellooo> does anyone know how to switch the units displayed in system monitor under "network history" to be based on bits instead of bytes
[13:54] <kaimast> /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER kaimast slmruvxmgnds
[13:54] <hellooo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-monitor/+bug/366235 suggests that there's a fix for that already
[13:55] <hellooo> yep but I can't find a setting for it
[13:55] <ObrienDave> ubottu
[13:55] <ObrienDave> is a bot
[13:55] <hellooo> ah I see
[13:57] <blek> Hello all. :)
[13:57] <PatrickDickey> Would not having a modem create a problem where my networking only configures successfully if I boot into Recovery mode?
[13:57] <PatrickDickey> Hi blek. How's it going?
[13:58] <blek> I am looking for someone that interested in translating Ubunchu, that renowned Ubuntu manga few years back then. Right now, we are lacking on manpower. :)
[13:58] <hellooo> ok I found it
[13:58] <blek> PatrickDickey fine day here, thanks. :)
[13:58]  * PatrickDickey never heard of ubunchu. Got a link?
[14:00] <blek> PatrickDickey http://divajutta.com/doctormo/ubunchu/c8.html
[14:00] <hitsujiTMO> hellooo: system monitor -> preferences -> bits
[14:00] <hellooo> hitsujiTMO: yep i found it
[14:00] <RiotingPacifist> Is there a GUI polkit editor yet?
[14:01] <Guest9298> Hello guys!!!
[14:01] <MonkeyDust> blek  it's not really ontopic, but start here https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/ubunchu-translators
[14:01] <Guest9298> i wuold need a expert on graphic card drivers
[14:01] <Guest9298> nvidia in specific
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> Guest9298  ask here and wait, maybe someone can help
[14:02] <Guest9298> anyone know where i can go or who i can speak with?
[14:03] <blek> MonkeyDust  I am also joined the googlegroups team, but the progress is very slow and it has been two years already. Like I said, the team is lacking on manpower.
[14:03] <PatrickDickey> !nvidia | oldman
[14:03] <PatrickDickey> That will get you started, at least oldman.
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> blek  and it's not supported here
[14:05] <blek> MonkeyDust care to explain more? I don't really get it. Sorry, English itself isn't my primary language.
[14:05] <oldman> got a bit of a problem with it.. i have done everything. i wuuold like like a list to do and i could write what happens.... this is the fifth time i install ubuntu on this computer i have had it a week. and i really did every single step to step i found on google and ask ubuntu'
[14:06] <oldman> http://askubuntu.com/questions/395854/ubuntu-problems-in-12-04-and-13-10-on-the-sony-vaio-fit
[14:06] <KamZou> Hi, i'm on ubuntu 13.10 (64bits) i can't install wine (wine, wine1.7 wine amd64 .....) via apt-get install. I get the following problem : " wine : Depends: wine1.6 but it is not going to be installed" any idea please ?
[14:07] <hitsujiTMO> oldman: start off by telling us what gpu you have
[14:07] <ezra-s> Kamzou, are you using a ppa?
[14:08] <oldman>  NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 735M 2 Gt
[14:08] <hitsujiTMO> oldman: and what nvidia driver did you install?
[14:09] <ObrienDave> KamZou, sudo apt-get install wine1.6
[14:09] <ObrienDave> KamZou,then sudo apt-get install wine1.7
[14:09] <OerHeks> !info wine saucy
[14:09] <hitsujiTMO> KamZou: ppas aren't really supported here
[14:10] <ezra-s> ObrienDave, you can specify two or more packages in the same apt-get install statement
[14:10] <ObrienDave> yea, i know. trying to keep it simple. KISS principal ;P
[14:11] <KamZou> ezra-s, yes :  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa
[14:11] <oldman> hitsujiTMO,  i did the nvidia 319
[14:11] <ezra-s> in any case apt-get install selects correct dependencies and isntall them by default so it should not be necessary, unless dependencies are not met or he is really doing dpkg -i...
[14:11] <hitsujiTMO> oldman:  and have you installed bumblee and prime?
[14:12] <KamZou> ObrienDave, when i try to install 1.6 i get :  wine1.6 : Depends: wine1.6-i386 (= 1:1.6.1-0ubuntu1~ppa1)
[14:12] <oldman> and now i have bumblebee with no  succsess
[14:12] <ezra-s> KamZou, but you need to do sudo apt-get update first
[14:12] <KamZou> i did
[14:12] <oldman> yes
[14:12] <oldman> prime give me blackscreen when boot and no desktop
[14:12] <hitsujiTMO> KamZou: what ppa are you using? are you using multiple conflicting ppas?
[14:13] <KamZou> hitsujiTMO,  ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa
[14:13] <mbroeker> Can someone help me with this warning message from nVidia Driver? http://codepad.org/3Hn6zfbR
[14:14] <hitsujiTMO> oldman: can you run: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dpkg --get-selections | pastebinit
[14:14] <hitsujiTMO> oldman: please paste ther link it generates
[14:14] <ezra-s> mbroeker, basically it tells you not to use vgafb because you risk corruption
[14:15] <mbroeker> ezra-s, do you know how to disable it and use plymouth splash?
[14:15] <ezra-s> mbroeker, blacklist it if you are using nvidia propietary driver
[14:15] <mbroeker> ezra-s, ok, will do
[14:15] <KamZou> hitsujiTMO, i've only those ppas "installed" : http://pastebin.com/Ad5hsKkM
[14:16] <oldman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6639797/
[14:17] <mbroeker> brb
[14:18] <OerHeks> KamZou, that https://launchpad.net/~joe-yasi/+archive/yasi ppa has wine too, conflicting. that is why PPA's are not supported, too many dependencie problems\
[14:18] <oldman> hitsujiTMO,   http://paste.ubuntu.com/6639797/
[14:20] <hitsujiTMO> oldman: i see references to 3 different nvidia drivers
[14:20] <KamZou> OerHeks, i'm trying to remove the yasi one
[14:20] <oldman> hitsujiTMO,   what does that mean?  what do i have to do?
[14:21] <md_nfs> hello every one
[14:21] <oldman> hello
[14:21] <hitsujiTMO> !ppa-purge | KamZou
[14:22] <md_nfs> when a cron set * * * * * like this, than bash cript how frequently run?
[14:22] <hitsujiTMO> oldman: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current && sudo apt-get purge nvidia-319
[14:22] <llutz> md_nfs: every minute
[14:23] <md_nfs> llutz, thanks
[14:24] <oldman> hitsujiTMO,   what does that mean?  what do i have to do?
[14:24] <oldman> hitsujiTMO,   sorry... done
[14:25] <KamZou> hitsujiTMO, same issue without the second ppa :(
[14:27] <hitsujiTMO> oldman: reboot
[14:27] <hitsujiTMO> KamZou: pastebin: apt-cache policy wine-1.7
[14:28] <KamZou> hitsujiTMO : N: Couldn't find any package by regex 'wine-1.7'
[14:28] <ezra-s> wine1.7
[14:29] <KamZou> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/mZKkbzNU
[14:31] <oldman> hitsujiTMO,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6639863/
[14:32] <ice9> after I installed ubuntu-restricted-extras and then kubuntu-desktop, there is noticeable noise when playing mp3
[14:32] <OerHeks> !info darktable
[14:35] <hitsujiTMO> oldman: whats the output of: sudo apt-get install wine1.7
[14:36] <hitsujiTMO> KamZou: : whats the output of: sudo apt-get install wine1.7
[14:36] <hitsujiTMO> oldman: sorry dont run that
[14:36] <backbox> hello
[14:36] <backbox> brothers
[14:36] <oldman> hitsujiTMO,  E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'wine1.7'
[14:37] <ezra-s> 13.10 uses 1.4
[14:37] <KamZou> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/d75A02Dh
[14:37] <backbox> ok  brother
[14:37] <hitsujiTMO> oldman: sudo apt-get purge bumblebee* nvidia-prime
[14:38] <SuperLag> The Ubuntu configuration on my laptop is near perfect, but I want to do the hard drive shuffle. What's the most efficient way to get everything moved around, and intact?
[14:38] <hitsujiTMO> KamZou: pastebin output of: sudo apt-get install wine1.7-i386
[14:38] <SuperLag> Where ~ is, is where I want / to be, when I'm done.
[14:39] <backbox>  sudo apt-get install guga
[14:39] <oldman> hitsujiTMO,  done
[14:39] <KamZou> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/puVVnQdb
[14:40] <oldman> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6639899/
[14:40] <oldman>  new one
[14:40] <hitsujiTMO> oldman: sudo apt-get purge nvidia-304 nvidia-settings-304 nvidia-settings-319
[14:41] <oldman> hitsujiTMO, new one http://paste.ubuntu.com/6639913/
[14:42] <hitsujiTMO> oldman: reboot amd make sure everything is still ok
[14:42] <hitsujiTMO> s/amd/and
[14:42] <backbox> hello hitsuji
[14:44] <hitsujiTMO> KamZou: pastebin: sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-0:i386
[14:45] <KamZou> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/0vU18Aqn And it continues over and over ...
[14:45] <ice9> dpkg-reconfigure lightdm doesn't show options to choose  between lightdm and kdm, the command just exits
[14:46] <oldman> hitsujiTMO,  rebooted. nothing special happend. still saying graphics spec. is intel ivybridge and here the new one http://paste.ubuntu.com/6639926/
[14:47] <hitsujiTMO> KamZou: need to see where the conflict is stemming from: sudo apt-get install default-jre-headless
[14:47] <KamZou> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/0qHQB7YN
[14:49] <imghost> ice9, whats the issue?
[14:50] <ice9> imghost: where can I set the greeter?
[14:50] <imghost> ice9, whats the problem? which display manager are you using?
[14:50] <hitsujiTMO> KamZou: what about: sudo apt-get install -s openjdk-7-jre
[14:51] <ice9> thanks imghost I solved it
[14:51] <ice9> imghost: now I have a problem with sound, noise in one of the speakers,  this happened after I installed kubuntu-desktop I think
[14:52] <KamZou> hitsujiTMO, if i resolve the 3 next dependancies, then i got this issue : http://pastebin.com/XVe2jpXW
[14:52] <imghost> ice9,lol ok :), may be speaker got damaged
[14:52] <KamZou> hitsujiTMO, it looks like it would remove a lot of packages ..
[14:52] <hitsujiTMO> ZamZou looks like openjdk-7-jre  is the problem
[14:53] <hitsujiTMO> KamZou: apt-cache policy openjdk-7-jre
[14:53] <KamZou> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/Sbi2cXrf
[14:55] <mbroeker> ezra-s, i have disabled the bootsplash, blacklisted the fb module and the warning has gone...
[14:56] <hitsujiTMO> KamZou: guess its not then. did you use ppa-purge?
[14:56] <hitsujiTMO> KamZou: or did you just remove the ppa?
[14:57] <IDF> what should i learn first with linux on my Ubuntu? keep in mind ive never used linux before (:
[14:57] <hitsujiTMO> !manual | IDF
[14:57] <[Gentoo]> IDF: just use it
[14:57] <IDF> ahh sweet ty :)
[14:57] <[Gentoo]> if you cant do something, then you learn how
[14:57] <KamZou> hitsujiTMO, i removed the ppa, then i still found some entries thah i removed manually (and then i see here someone writtint me about ppa purge package... but it won't "find" the package) i've just did a apt-get update after thah
[14:58] <KamZou> hitsujiTMO,  but i've still nothing installed via this ppa (i've added this one few minutes ago)
[14:58]  * IDF puts image to vm and gets going
[14:58] <IDF> tyvm
[14:58] <hitsujiTMO> KamZou: ahh thats the problem. you still have some parts of that ppa installed. it has updated some libs which is the cause of the conflict
[14:59] <hitsujiTMO> KamZou: can you add that ppa again and run ppa-purge
[14:59] <KamZou> hitsujiTMO, i hope you're right. Is there a way to clean this mess ? :D
[14:59] <KamZou> ok i try
[15:00] <oldman> hitsujiTMO,  I have to walk the dogs so i be back in an hour or so.  if you kidly cuold send me kind of a list of what to do. to get the nvidia to work?  ty
[15:00] <ezra-s> mbroeker, I'm glad you got it sorted
[15:01] <KamZou> hitsujiTMO, ok i've added the ppa, purged, did a apt-get update, but still an issue with apt-get install wine (wine1.6 1.7 i1386 amd64 .......)
[15:04] <hitsujiTMO> oldman: sudo apt-get install bumblebee bumblebee-nvidia primus
[15:05] <hitsujiTMO> KamZou: only think to assume is a broken ppa then unfortunately
[15:05] <ice9> which irc channel is related to codecs?
[15:06] <[Gentoo]> ice9: like what
[15:06] <[Gentoo]> maybe theres specific ones
[15:06] <KamZou> hitsujiTMO, i don't understand your last sentence ?
[15:06] <ice9> [Gentoo]: I have problems with sound, there are noise when playing something
[15:07] <hitsujiTMO> KamZou: as in i'd assume that the wine-ppa simply doesn't work. (they could have an incorrectly specified dependency in a package for instance )
[15:08] <KamZou> hitsujiTMO, so it may work in few hours for instance ?
[15:09] <hitsujiTMO> KamZou: or a few weeks. depending on what the problem is and if its theirs to fix. ( google had a similar problem with chromes deb, tooke them 2 weeks to fix it )
[15:10] <KamZou> ok, i hope the problem is there, thank you for your time hitsujiTMO
[15:11] <Bjizzle> Hi. I recently got a gtx 780 so I tried using it with my 580. Now I'm trying to just use the 780. When I took out the 580 I now can't boot past bios splash screen and I can't get into the bois. I know all my hardware is fine.
[15:12] <[Gentoo]> Bjizzle: try draining the power
[15:12] <[Gentoo]> press and hold power button few times when pc is unplugged
[15:13] <Bjizzle> Okay I did that
[15:13] <[Gentoo]> i take it it still doesnt work
[15:13] <Bjizzle> Let us see..
[15:14] <hitsujiTMO> Bjizzle: if you cant get into the bios make sure the 780 is seated correctly and power is connected correctly
[15:14] <Bjizzle> Sounded like it did but I guess not.
[15:15] <Bjizzle> No, it's not working. I can't get into bios. I'm p darn sure it's in there properly.
[15:17] <hitsujiTMO> Bjizzle: if not then you could be holding a dead 780
[15:18]  * ObrienDave would check the connections first
[15:19] <Hydr0p0nX>  anyone abel to help me with a hdmi audio issue on 12.04.3 ?
[15:19] <yfgyugs87fy> WARNING       WARNING      WARNING,                       WARNING
[15:19] <ObrienDave> !ask | Hydr0p0nX
[15:19] <yfgyugs87fy> WARNING             WARNING              WARNING,     WARNING         WARNING
[15:19] <yfgyugs87fy>  YOU MAY BE WATCHED
[15:19] <yfgyugs87fy> YOU MAY BE WATCHED
[15:19] <yfgyugs87fy>                 YOU MAY BE WATCHED
[15:19] <FloodBot1> yfgyugs87fy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:19] <LjL> !ops
[15:19] <Bjizzle> The gtx 780 was working before I took out the 580. The drivers weren't though
[15:21] <hitsujiTMO> Bjizzle: is it in the first pci-e slot?
[15:21] <Bjizzle> Yes
[15:21] <Bjizzle> At the top
[15:21] <Bjizzle> I just reseated it
[15:24] <pcpcpc> Hi there,  i have a Problem: I cannot login anymore. After i changed my Password with passwd, there is just a short black screen and than back to login screen. I have ubuntu 12.04. Actually I just need get my Data very urgently.
[15:25] <hitsujiTMO> pcpcpc: did you have an encrypted home directory
[15:25] <hitsujiTMO> ?
[15:25] <Bjizzle> It's doing the same thing after reseating it.
[15:25] <vorburger> hello, would this be an appropriate channel to ask for help re. an issue of greeter no longer appearing after reboot? It's a fresh vanilla std. 13.10 install, and I had installed kubuntu-desktop yesterday to have a look, then removed all packages that installed today, and seem to have removed something too much.... help, anyone? Tx!
[15:25] <pcpcpc> yes
[15:26] <AssociateX> Hollas!
[15:26] <pcpcpc> hitsujiTMO: yes
[15:26] <hitsujiTMO> pcpcpc: try changing back your password
[15:27] <AssociateX> So, I want to figure out if I can use wireless with ubuntu or not. Is it doable or is it a chore or even possible?
[15:27] <pcpcpc> hitsujiTMO: back to the old one? I dont know anymore.. Or i am not really sure.
[15:27] <somsip> AssociateX: yes, yes. cli can be more tricky, yes
[15:27] <pcpcpc> hitsujiTMO: Is there an other way
[15:28] <G[zero]D> Hi all, there are new about bug when connect iphone on ubuntu?
[15:28] <somsip> AssociateX: all dependant on your chipset/adapater of course
[15:28] <AssociateX> somsip, thank you. Do you have an app in mind?
[15:28] <hitsujiTMO> pcpcpc: i'm not familiar with how home dir encryption works. you obviously need to update the password for the encrypted directory to mach your account password. you can recover the files seperately with http://www.howtogeek.com/116297/how-to-recover-an-encrypted-home-directory-on-ubuntu/
[15:28] <LinuxKilledMe> greetings #Ubuntu. after trying to set up my nvidia config to fix vsync problem, whenever i boot ubuntu, it give me a black screen. After asking help here, a guy told me that i needed to enable nomodeset in the grub conf to be able to boot properly. I did that, now my screen is stuck in the ubuntu loading screen. Any hints ? thanks :)
[15:29] <pcpcpc> hitsujiTMO: I will try thank you
[15:29] <somsip> AssociateX: well I've only use cli, but plenty of people here have success with the provided gui tool. Maybe if you give more details you will get some help from someone who uses that
[15:29] <hitsujiTMO> Bjizzle: i'm out of ideas if thats not working and its not dead
[15:30] <AssociateX> Somsip what details do you need to hear?
[15:30] <AssociateX> somsip, Kubuntu.
[15:30] <Bjizzle> I was getting bios code b2 meaning "legacy option rom initialization"
[15:30] <Hydr0p0nX> running ubuntu 12.04.3 and audio out over HDMI isn't working, I've made sure all my outputs are unmuted and turned up, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6640144/
[15:30] <somsip> AssociateX: what is your wifi card/chipset/whatever. And I have no experience with Kubuntu so you'll need help fro, an other
[15:31] <Bjizzle> Now it's saying b4 which is "USB hot plug"
[15:31] <hitsujiTMO> AssociateX: wifi works for 80% of peeps out of the box. for another 10% it involves minor fiddleing. another 5% involes messing around/compiling with drivers. the remaining 5% have issues caused by network manager or non exiting drivers
[15:31] <Teacherman> I am new here...is this where I ask questions concerning 10.04 Linuxmce
[15:31] <AssociateX> somsip, lsusb doesn't tell me anything.
[15:32] <AssociateX> hitsujiTMO, thank you.
[15:32] <somsip> AssociateX: is it a usb dongle?
[15:32] <AssociateX> no
[15:32] <hitsujiTMO> AssociateX: can you give us the vendor id and pci id?
[15:33] <AssociateX> somsip, I'm going to search through lshw unless you have a better suggestion.
[15:33] <AssociateX> hitsujiTMO, ^^^'
[15:33] <somsip> AssociateX: my suggestion would be 'dont use lsusb if it isnt a usb dongle'. Looks there are more experienced people here who will be able to advise
[15:35] <hitsujiTMO> AssociateX: whats the relevant line in: lspci -nn
[15:35] <Teacherman> Will Linuxmce 10.4 interface with controller 2314U along with 2314S ?
[15:36] <AssociateX> hitsujiTMO, I'm not sure. Let me pastebin it.
[15:37] <hitsujiTMO> Teacherman: this is ubuntu support
[15:38] <edd_> hello
[15:38] <AssociateX> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.ca/2517868
[15:38] <AssociateX> see anything?
[15:38] <hitsujiTMO> Teacherman: try /join #LinuxMCE
[15:38] <edd_> is the wireless issue solved in some update   of 12.04?
[15:39] <Teacherman> Thank you for the information.
[15:39] <vorburger> edd_, this isn't you Dumbill? It's Michael..
[15:39] <edd_> what >
[15:39] <edd_> ?
[15:39] <Teacherman> I have a question concerning Ubuntu also...what is needed to get my internal 3 1/2 floppy disks to working...also my Logitec Web cam?
[15:40] <hitsujiTMO> AssociateX: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[15:40] <AssociateX> LTS
[15:40] <jhutchins> edd_: Depends on which wireless issue.  There isn't a general problem.
[15:40] <AssociateX> hitsujiTMO, how could I tell you the exact version?
[15:41] <Hammer> is they are any stuf here?
[15:41] <edd_> ok so i have some issues  with my wireless on acer notebook with atheros ar9485 , i could only make it work using echo " options asus_nb_wmi wpfa=1" >/etc/modprobe.d/asus.conf, is it solved yet in some update for 12.04.3?
[15:41] <edd_> jhutchins,
[15:41] <hitsujiTMO> Teacherman: both devices should work with straight off
[15:42] <hitsujiTMO> AssociateX: lts = 12.04. you wifi is supported in kernel 3.11 where you have 3.08 at the latest
[15:42] <jhutchins> edd_: I don't know, but why would there be any change?
[15:42] <AssociateX> uname -a
[15:42] <AssociateX> Linux HPLaptop 3.2.0-56-generic #86-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 23 09:20:45 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:42] <Teacherman> Perhaps I am in the wrong version of Ubuntu also...I  currently have 12.04.3
[15:42] <AssociateX> I have 3.2.blah
[15:42] <hitsujiTMO> AssociateX: have a look at http://askubuntu.com/questions/337785/wireless-not-working-on-toshiba-satellite-c55-a528110ec:8179
[15:43] <edd_> can i use primus bumblebee backend on 12.04.3?
[15:43] <AssociateX> hitsujiTMO, thank you man!
[15:45] <edd_> 12.04.3 with bumblebee primus backend ? anyone ?
[15:46] <edd_> HALP! plox!
[15:47] <LinuxKilledMe> greetings #Ubuntu. after trying to set up my nvidia config to fix vsync problem, whenever i boot ubuntu, it give me a black screen. After asking help here, a guy told me that i needed to enable nomodeset in the grub conf to be able to boot properly. I did that, now my screen is stuck in the ubuntu loading screen. Any hints ? thanks :)
[15:47] <edd_> i am switching OS
[15:48] <edd_> too much bullshit
[15:48] <LinuxKilledMe> lol
[15:48] <edd_> and I also donated moneyz
[15:48] <edd_> to ubuntu
[15:48] <hitsujiTMO> !patience | edd_
[15:48] <LinuxKilledMe> edd_: i feel just like you right now...
[15:49] <hitsujiTMO> LinuxKilledMe: nomodeset is used for the open nouveau driver, not the proprietary driver
[15:50] <LinuxKilledMe> hitsujiTMO: i only did what Rory asked me to do. Im trying to leave windows, but its hard to find proper support :-/
[15:50] <Rory> LinuxKilledMe: eh?
[15:50] <LinuxKilledMe> hitsujiTMO: i mean i dont know much about why he asked me to do so
[15:50] <hitsujiTMO> LinuxKilledMe: did you install the proprietary drivers?
[15:51] <LinuxKilledMe> nope.
[15:51] <pcpcpc> Hey hitsujiTMO: maybe you or someone else have a hint for me: i followed this how-to http://www.howtogeek.com/116297/how-to-recover-an-encrypted-home-directory-on-ubuntu , but after opening the files with gksu nautlius there were still crypted
[15:51] <pcpcpc> *they were
[15:51] <Rory> LinuxKilledMe: You can disable nomodeset temporarily if it doesn't help, and then disable it permanently again once you have booted - hold shift to access the Grub menu while booting, then press E to edit the current option. Scroll down and remove the nomodeset option then press Ctrl-X to boot
[15:51] <bekks> pcpcpc: All your questions were already answered in #ubuntu-de
[15:52] <bekks> pcpcpc: You really just have to follow the wiki article you've already been given.
[15:52] <hitsujiTMO> LinuxKilledMe: what entries did add to xorg.conf?
[15:52] <LinuxKilledMe> hitsujiTMO: ive not edited that file
[15:52] <kubunto> vid issue: http://pastebin.com/7P3zEgsD
[15:52] <LinuxKilledMe> is there a way to desinstall all nvidia settingds
[15:52] <sandhu> i m not able to download or install testdisk from 10.10 ubuntu software centre
[15:53] <bekks> sandhu: No.
[15:53] <LinuxKilledMe> then reinstall them in the clean way ?
[15:53] <vmusr> how to enable my bluetooth adapter? I can see it in lsusb, but there's no bluetooth in the OS
[15:53] <bekks> sandhu: 10.10 is EOL.
[15:53] <sandhu> means
[15:53] <bekks> sandhu: No support for 10.10 anymore.
[15:53] <hitsujiTMO> sandhu: no support, no repo, no nothing
[15:54] <sandhu> but how i can upgrade this ,,,i have lost my all photos
[15:54] <bekks> sandhu: use a live cd, install/use testdisk from the livecd.
[15:54] <SuperLag> Would "rsync -avz /home/foo/ /path/to/homebackup" get the job done *properly* to make a clone of ~?
[15:54] <sandhu> what is live cd
[15:55] <devicenull> so, I'm trying to install 12.04 x64 via net install, and the precise-updates installer.  however, I'm getting an error from the installer saying 'no kernel modules were found'.  Looking at the logs of the HTTP mirror I'm using, I see the installer fetching content from the /precise/ repo, no /precise-updates/ .  How do I convince the installer to use the
[15:55] <devicenull> right version of files?
[15:55] <bekks> sandhu: the 12.04 live cd you asked where to download from today.
[15:55] <vmusr> f0rever
[15:55] <hitsujiTMO> sandhu: this was explained to you yesterday. you need to boot a 12.04 live cd to recover your photos. then once they are recovered you can safely upgrade
[15:55] <jeffrey_f> Question:  Thinkpad T60. Bluetooth works great.  After lid close=hibernate and de-hibernate bluetooth doesn't connect to nor find any devices.  This works fine after a fresh start from power-down.
[15:55] <luiz> Hi guys, I got this 3G modem which is not connecting. I've searched a lot on google found a bunch of solutions, none worked. Can anyone help me out? the modem is a huawei e173
[15:55] <kubunto> vid issue: http://pastebin.com/7P3zEgsD
[15:56] <sandhu> from where i can get 12.04
[15:56] <sandhu> is there any site or sourse
[15:56] <bekks> sandhu: www.ubuntu.com
[15:56] <hitsujiTMO> sandhu: releases.ubuntu.com
[15:56] <bekks> sandhu: Same site as earlier today.
[15:57] <knightshade> Hello
[15:57] <luiz> Help with modem 3g that wont connect ?
[15:58] <knightshade> !3G | luiz
[16:00] <kubunto> vid issue: http://pastebin.com/7P3zEgsD
[16:01] <sandhu> is that 12.04.3 LTS
[16:01] <hitsujiTMO> kubunto: they're all the same thing.
[16:01] <oldman> hitsujiTMO,  if i can bother you a wile? i now did the install of bumblebee nvidia primus... still i se in the info that its intel. is tthere still something to do?
[16:02] <hitsujiTMO> sandhu: yes
[16:02] <luiz> knightshade, nothing happened... I'm trying now some other config I just found on google
[16:02] <kubunto> hitsujiTMO: what do you mean
[16:02] <edd_> i have bumblebee installed
[16:02] <edd_> oldman,
[16:02] <oldman> yes
[16:03] <oldman> edd_
[16:03] <edd_> you should optirun -b none nvidia-settings c:8  <--- google it
[16:03] <hitsujiTMO> oldman: to run an app with you nvidia gpu you need to run it with primus run. i.e.: primusrun steam
[16:03] <kubunto> hitsujiTMO: how do i fix it
[16:03] <edd_> yes as hitsujiTMO  said, you only run some stuff with the discrete graphics card
[16:04] <edd_> either with virtualgl or primus backend
[16:04] <edd_> oldman,  you have 12.04.3
[16:04] <edd_> ?
[16:04] <sandhu> now i m downloading desktop cd ,,,what to do later...am i going right
[16:04] <edd_> uga buga
[16:04] <kubunto> worked itself out
[16:05] <sandhu> tell me ....
[16:05] <sandhu> pl reply..
[16:06] <Rory> sandhu: Burn it to a blank dvd, or create a bootable USB flash drive
[16:06] <axizor> how do i install glibc 2.16 on a 64bit 12.04 machine\
[16:06] <Rory> !install | sandhu
[16:06] <hitsujiTMO> kubunto: that adobe package you are trying to install is just another way of installing the other package. adobe are no longer supporting linux so if you want to try another flash player install chrome and remove the adobe flash player. chrom come bundled with its own player
[16:06] <edd_> sander, ubuntu can ruin your day in many ways , you're not alone
[16:06] <edd_> sandhu,
[16:06] <edd_> quit
[16:07] <Rory> axizor: you cna use "sudo apt-get install libc6=2.16-0ubuntu5 && sudo ldconfig"
[16:07] <hitsujiTMO> sandhu: this was explained to you yesterday. burn the iso. boot to the live cd (test ubuntu). then install and use photorec from the live cd
[16:07] <axizor> Rory says libc6 was not found
[16:08] <oldman> hitsujiTMO,  edd_  okej so i dont get it to start up when i start the computer? i have noticed youtube laggs a lott  if i watch full hd videos dosent nvidia help in that?
[16:09] <sandhu> that desktop cd will be ISO
[16:10] <axizor> anyone successfully running a utorrent server on x64
[16:10] <luiz> can anyone help me with 3G modem. Here the syslog http://pastebin.com/HLBc2sky
[16:10] <sandhu> pl tell me
[16:10] <hitsujiTMO> oldman, optimus cards are run on demand. so you must call it. your intel gpu should be more than capable of fullscreen vid acceleration. most likely the gpu isnt the cause of the lag
[16:10] <oldman> edd_, i had the 12.04 and it worked nice. i boted the computer and ubuntu 12.04 reconised the nvidia. but had truble with the sound. you can check this out http://askubuntu.com/questions/395854/ubuntu-problems-in-12-04-and-13-10-on-the-sony-vaio-fit
[16:11] <sandhu> this will be iso image
[16:11] <sandhu> that desktop cd will be ISO
[16:12] <hitsujiTMO> sandhu: can you rephrase the question. doesn't make sense
[16:12] <jeffrey_f> Thinkpad T60-->Bluetooth works great.  After lid close=hibernate and de-hibernate, bluetooth doesn't connect to nor find any devices.  It works fine after a fresh start from power-down.  Any ideas
[16:12] <sandhu> now i m downloading desktop cd ,,is that will be iso
[16:12] <hitsujiTMO> !in | sandhu maybe it might be easier if you got help in your native language
[16:13] <luiz> Help modem 3g? wont connect http://pastebin.com/HLBc2sky
[16:13] <hitsujiTMO> sandhu: yes thats an iso file that you can burn to cd
[16:14] <sandhu> k thax bro.....
[16:14] <oldman> hitsujiTMO,  ohh this is awwful. do you think that i go back to 12.04 and rather fix the sound problem? this continius problem with ubuntu tears my relationship up (-_-)
[16:17] <hitsujiTMO> oldman: i wouldn't recommend 12.04 with such a new system. Some drivers may not have been backported
[16:17] <hitsujiTMO> oldman: what is the sound issue?
[16:17] <axizor> anyone know about how to get glibc on 12.04 x64
[16:17] <oldman> hitsujiTMO,  ohh this is awwful. do you think that i go back to 12.04 and rather fix the sound problem? this continius problem with ubuntu tears my relationship up (-_-)
[16:18] <axizor> dont use ubuntu then
[16:18] <oldman> hitsujiTMO,  sorry.... having sound in headphone jack but not the speakers
[16:18] <hitsujiTMO> oldman: is that from first boot? or did it never go to speaker?
[16:20] <oldman> hitsujiTMO,  i was trying to get it to work in 2 days and followed google tight. then i was lead to upgrade kernel and then i never got the 12.04 to start anymore
[16:21] <luiz> modem 3g, can anyone make huawei connect?
[16:21] <oldman> hitsujiTMO,  then i went back to 13.10. and noticed that 12.04 not reconise  my nvidia
[16:22] <oldman> hitsujiTMO,  then i went back to 13.10. and noticed that 13.10 not reconise  my nvidia
[16:22] <oldman> luiz, i made it to a friend of mine
[16:22] <oldman> luiz, but it was a strugle
[16:23] <axizor> anyone know about glibc on 12.04
[16:25] <oldman> luiz, it was like this i made it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF8xI_DM9NY
[16:25] <axizor> stfu
[16:25] <kruxoman> Can I set a temporary home in a terminal? To avoid the current path beeing a hundred letters
[16:28] <hitsujiTMO> kruxoman: can you better explain your problem
[16:28] <oldman> hitsujiTMO,  then i went back to 13.10. and noticed that 12.04 not reconise  my nvidia
[16:28] <oldman> hitsujiTMO,  primus: fatal: Bumblebee daemon reported: error: Could not load GPU driver
[16:28] <jeffrey_f> Thinkpad T60-->Bluetooth works great.  After lid close=hibernate and de-hibernate, bluetooth doesn't connect to nor find any devices.  It works fine after a fresh start from power-down.  Any ideas
[16:28] <hitsujiTMO> oldman: is that still happening now?
[16:28] <vorburger> just talking to respond to myself ;-) - I've now figured it out - the /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf was broken after a kubuntu-desktop install and remove, it had
[16:29] <vorburger> < user-session=ubuntu
[16:29] <vorburger> < greeter-session=unity-greeter
[16:29] <vorburger> ---
[16:29] <vorburger> > user-session=kde-plasma
[16:29] <FloodBot1> vorburger: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:29] <vorburger> > greeter-session=
[16:29] <oldman> hitsujiTMO,  yes it is...
[16:30] <hitsujiTMO> oldman: can you pastebin the output of: cat /etc/pastebin/*
[16:30] <hitsujiTMO> oldman: can you pastebin the output of: cat /etc/pastebin/*
[16:30] <hitsujiTMO> oldman: can you pastebin the output of: cat /etc/bumblebee/*
[16:30] <hitsujiTMO> sorry
[16:30] <kruxoman> hitsujiTMO: At the terminal "kruxoman@Computer:~/.local/share/smuxi/hooks/frontend/command-manager/command-mycommand". The path to the current dir is very long. I want to make it shorter and one solution would be a temporary home. Do you know of a solution?
[16:31] <goncaloss> kruxoman: export PS1=">"
[16:32] <AssociateX> Hello again.
[16:32] <oldman> hitsujiTMO,  do you think its a big deal to get the sound to work in 12.04? i have used linux one year on the old computer and like it but im not so in to the terminal stuff... old windows user
[16:33] <eqisow> So I have 13.04 and I'm trying to watch TV through the Intel HDMI on my laptop. The extra monitor shows up and HDMI audio is an option in my sound settings... simply nothing comes through the speakers. The TV HDMI/sound works normally with other inputs. Does anyone have ANY ideas for something I could try to get sound output?
[16:33] <cruejones> any ideas on why usb would stop working on 13.10? worked on 13.04 (hp pavilion g6)
[16:33] <yto>  i cant shutdown my laptop in ubuntu . i try sudo shutdown -h and -P but it cant solve my problem. anyone can help me?
[16:33] <hitsujiTMO> krux: foobar="$HOME/.local/share/smuxi/hooks/frontend/command-manager/command-mycommand"                         if you just want to reference. but if you cd'ing to that directory then try: ln -s ~/.local/share/smuxi/hooks/frontend/command-manager/command-mycommand ~/that-folder; cd ~/that-folder
[16:33] <kruxoman> That's really cool :D Thanks hitsujiTMO
[16:33] <AssociateX> where is the file that locks the software updating apps?
[16:34] <oldman> hitsujiTMO,  the pastebin on the bumble bee is a lot of text i dont think u appriciate if i paste it here
[16:34] <kruxoman> That export PS1 command
[16:34] <MonkeyDust> cruejones  stops working? meaning?
[16:34] <AssociateX> I can't do updates. It appears that another app is open.
[16:34] <cruejones> MonkeyDust: does not detect any devices
[16:34] <cruejones> MonkeyDust: on any of the ports
[16:34] <ice9> is there a better key store app than seahorse?
[16:35] <MonkeyDust> ice9  define "better"
[16:35] <hitsujiTMO> AssociateX: apt-get ubuntu-updates and software-centre all share the same lock file. you can only have 1 open at a time
[16:35] <jeffrey_f> ice9: kleopatra works good and the interface isn't too bad either.
[16:35] <yto>  i cant shutdown my laptop in ubuntu . i try sudo shutdown -h and -P but it cant solve my problem. anyone can help me?
[16:35] <MonkeyDust> cruejones  does lsusb show something?
[16:35] <ice9> MonkeyDust: has more features, like backup, easier management
[16:36] <hitsujiTMO> oldman: paste.ubuntu.com
[16:36] <jeffrey_f> ice9: Gnupg or other keys??
[16:36] <cruejones> MonkeyDust: nope
[16:36] <ice9> jeffrey_f: gnupg and ssh keys
[16:36] <phil__> or mnt is busy
[16:36] <AssociateX> hitsujiTMO, where is that lock file? I rebooted and I still cant do updates.
[16:37] <cruejones> MonkeyDust: well it includes one device (Chicony Electronics
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> AssociateX  try this in a terminal     sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[16:37] <cruejones> MonkeyDust: even when none are plugged in
[16:37] <oldman> hitsujiTMO,  heh.. here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/6640483/
[16:38] <MonkeyDust> cruejones  what if none are plugged in?
[16:38] <cruejones> still shows that one
[16:38] <phil__> something wrong with an install ex DKMS
[16:38] <hitsujiTMO> oldman: whats ouput of: lspci | grep VGA
[16:38] <MonkeyDust> cruejones  sounds odd, no clue what might cause it
[16:39] <AssociateX> MonkeyDust, nothing happens.
[16:39] <AssociateX> cruejones, cool name!
[16:40] <yto>  i cant shutdown my laptop in ubuntu . i try sudo shutdown -h and -P but it cant solve my problem. anyone can help me?
[16:41] <phil__> the swap ain"t dismount
[16:42] <oldman> hitsujiTMO, timo@vaio-SVF15A1C5E:~$ lspci | grep VGA
[16:42] <oldman> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[16:44] <phil__> yto try halt -r
[16:44] <phil__> quit
[16:45] <hitsujiTMO> oldman: can you pastebin the fill output of: lspci
[16:46] <eqisow> I'm looking at pavucontrol and under Output Devices it shows the HDMI AND the amplification meter bounces when I play stuff... I just can't get sound on the TV
[16:46] <eqisow> although, again the TV works with other inputs. I'm at a loss.
[16:48] <zeorin> Hello, does anyone know how I could create my own ubuntu 13.10 armhf rootfs? There are no easy instructions for live-build anywhere and rootstock is deprecated... I don't know where to look and #ubuntu-arm channel is dead, as per usual
[16:48] <oldman> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6640534/
[16:48] <AssociateX> MonkeyDust, sudo dpkg --configure -a <--- fixed it.
[16:49] <hitsujiTMO> oldman: whats output of: groups
[16:49] <jeffrey_f> ice9: Kleopatra handles GnuPG keys very well while seahorse works for the other keys
[16:49] <roksvamp> hi everyone, i just installed 13.10 and my keyboard and mouse refuses to work The keyboard is fine in PS/2 mode, but the usb ports are all broken
[16:49] <oldman> hitsujiTMO,  groups
[16:49] <oldman> timo adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare bumblebee
[16:49] <ice9> jeffrey_f: but Kleopatra can't hold ssh keys right?
[16:50] <roksvamp> I tried acpi=off as suggested in a forum post, but then ubuntu didn't boot at all
[16:50] <luiz> oldman, I did what video asked for, going to reset pc and then I'll come back with result.
[16:50] <yto> my laptop freeze in ubuntu logo screen when shutdown it. test shutdown -h and -p but my problem not solved. anyone can help me?
[16:52] <ff> this is spam
[16:53] <jeffrey_f> ice9:  X.509 and OpenPGP/GnuPG
[16:54] <yto> my laptop freeze in ubuntu logo screen when shutdown it. test shutdown -h and -p but my problem not solved. anyone can help me?
[16:54] <hitsujiTMO> oldman: whats ouput of lsmod
[16:55] <oldman> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6640578/
[16:56] <Randi_> hi ^^
[16:56] <hitsujiTMO> oldman: also pastebin contents of /etc/bumblebee/xorg.conf.nvidia
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> AssociateX  great!
[16:57] <hitsujiTMO> oldman: i think KernelDriver=nvidia-current needs to be changed to KernelDriver=nvidia    in /etc/bumblebee/xorg.conf.nvidia
[16:57] <CarlFK> is there a command line tool to send stdin to a pastebin ?
[16:57] <oldman> hitsujiTMO,  i dont know how to open /etc/bumblebee/xorg.conf.nvidia
[16:58] <Randi_> Can someone make a package for this? http://hedgewars.org/download.html
[16:58] <Randi_> ^^
[16:58] <hitsujiTMO> oldman: sudo nano /etc/bumblebee/xorg.conf.nvidia
[16:59] <hitsujiTMO> oldman: make the change: then Ctrl+O to write changes. ctrl+x to exit
[16:59] <yto> my laptop freeze in ubuntu logo screen when shutdown it. test shutdown -h and -p but my problem not solved. anyone can help me?
[16:59] <hitsujiTMO> !paste | CarlFK
[17:00] <luiz> oldman, no deal. Still doesnt connect.
[17:00] <hitsujiTMO> !pastebinit | CarlFK even
[17:00] <CarlFK> hitsujiTMO: bingo.  thanks
[17:00] <IDF> virtual machine or native installation?
[17:01] <homecable> whats a good desktop manger for a netbook
[17:01] <oldman> luiz,  i remember you have to register every time my friend connected to internet with 3g
[17:02] <luiz> register what? oldman
[17:04] <yto> my laptop freeze in ubuntu logo screen when shutdown it. test shutdown -h and -p but my problem not solved. anyone can help me?
[17:04] <vak> hi all
[17:05] <vilemaxim> Running into an issue with x forwarding. I get an error "X11 forwarding request failed on channel 1" when I try to login. not sure why it's not channel 0. When I attempt to run something and X app I get "Error: no display specified" my ssh client can accept X from other servers. This server does have "X11Forwarding yes" in it's conf Google has been little help. Anyone got a clue for me.
[17:05] <oldman> luiz, in the connection settings mobile broadband.  i am not the real guy to tell u how its done i only made it once to my friend and i used the video on the url and thats all the settings u need. try set up a usr name and password.
[17:06] <luiz> oldman, I already did that, it connect and disconnect just after
[17:07] <rcw2> what are the main differences between running ubuntu on a mac vs pc
[17:07] <vak> i have Ubuntu installed. Now i am trying to install windows 7 and am seeing something that i never have seen before: Windows installer refuses to install reporting that partition is in GPT style... is it possible to install the damn Windows WITHOUT destroying  my Ubuntu?..
[17:07] <vector_> why is sudo fdisk -l not displaying all of the partition
[17:08] <Pricey> vak: Only one hard disk?
[17:08] <oldman> luiz, then im sorry i cant help. i cant even handle my own ubuntu issues
[17:08] <vak> Pricey: actually 3
[17:08] <luiz> oldman, no problem man, thank you for your time
[17:08] <kamayumi92> hello. cpu usage are high after wake up from suspend. Ubuntu 12.04 . help
[17:08] <vector_> I need help
[17:09] <vak> Pricey: 2 HDD, 1 SSD
[17:09] <Pricey> vak: I find it's always safest to install windows first... even disconnecting existing linux HDs if you're dual booting. You can't install to one of the others?
[17:09] <vilemaxim> vector_, that's odd... you sure it's a good drive
[17:09] <Jordan_U> vak: Yes it is possible to install Windows without needing to later re-install Ubuntu completely, though in your case it may be more difficult than normal.
[17:09] <vector_> on Gparted it displays them all
[17:10] <vilemaxim> vector_, drive is bigger that 2 TB
[17:10] <oldman> hitsujiTMO,  its to much terminal for me. i try ubuntu 12.04 tommorow and i come back and ask help for the audio insted.
[17:10] <vak> Pricey: SSD gives me an error 0x80300024. other HDD has no free partitions
[17:10] <vector_> no
[17:10] <jeek> Is there a recommended way to get Apache 2.2.26 or 2.4 into Ubuntu 10.04 LTS?
[17:10] <vector_> 700 gb or something
[17:10] <Jordan_U> vector_: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l" and "sudo fdisk -l".
[17:10] <oldman> hitsujiTMO,  but i really appriciate the time u took and helpt me. tanks a lot. and god bless :D
[17:10] <vak> Jordan_U: any hints?
[17:11] <vilemaxim> vector_, what kind of partition table msdos or gpt
[17:11] <kamayumi92> hello. cpu usage are high after wake up from suspend. Ubuntu 12.04 . pls help
[17:11] <vilemaxim> vector_, I think fdisk has issues with gpt  just a stab in the dark
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> jeek  what version do you have in 12.04?
[17:11] <vector_> I'm trying reinstall grub
[17:11] <jeek> 2.2.22
[17:12] <jeek> 14.04 will have 2.4, but isn't out yet
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> jeek  try the !backports for a more recent version
[17:12] <Jordan_U> vak: You can convert an Ubuntu instsllation from GPT to an msdos label, abd you can install Windows on GPT if your boot firmware can boot via UEFI.
[17:12] <vilemaxim> vector_, grub giving you an issue then?
[17:12] <luiz> Guys, I need help with modem 3g
[17:12] <vector_> yes
[17:14] <vector_> http://pastebin.com/EzdeKhc5 and the other one in a sec
[17:14] <vilemaxim> vector_, what is it's issue
[17:14] <zivester> does anyone know how to make a live USB on xubuntu 13.10 ?
[17:14] <Pricey> vak: ##windows for that error ;-) But I would remove the linux hard disk, install windows somewhere then come back here for help fixing grub.
[17:14] <vak> Jordan_U: my motherboard is 2 years old or so i guess... so it should be ok, why is installer complaining?.. i've checked the bios settings...
[17:14] <vak> Pricey: i see
[17:15] <jeek> MonkeyDust: How does that work? Do I set up lucid-backports because I'm on lucid, or something newer because that's where the newer software is?
[17:15] <Jordan_U> vector_: You should always read and try to understand error messages. Don't ignore them, especially if you're seeing results you don't expect.
[17:15] <jeffrey_f> Thinkpad T60. Bluetooth works great.  After lid close=hibernate and de-hibernate bluetooth doesn't connect to nor find any devices.  This works fine after a fresh start from power-down.  Any ideas????
[17:16] <MonkeyDust> jeek  10.04 desktop or server? desktop is !eol, dead
[17:16] <vilemaxim> vector_, I think your issue with fdisk is the partition table is a gpt partition. I dobt that has anything to do with your grub issue
[17:16] <jeek> Server
[17:17] <MonkeyDust> !backports | jeek
[17:17] <vector_> should it matter sudo flist says
[17:17] <vilemaxim> vector_, I think the newer fdisk can handle it (If I'm remembering right)
[17:18] <Jordan_U> vector_: Please pastebin the complete output of "sudo fdisk -l" for educstional purposes.
[17:18] <vector_> http://pastebin.com/Ewtpv1nz
[17:18] <Jordan_U> s/educstional/educational/
[17:19] <vilemaxim> vector_, not sure I understand the question....
[17:19] <jeek> looks like apache2 hasn't made it into backports
[17:19] <vector_> I tried going off this tutorial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajs9rO5upZA
[17:20] <vilemaxim> vector_, I'm not sure what the issue is anymore. fdisk is not the tool to use under your situation.
[17:20] <MonkeyDust> jeek  upgrading to 12.04 is an option, but 14.04 will soon be out, so i guess you better be more patient
[17:20] <Jordan_U> vector_: "WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted." Hence why parted shows all your partitions, because it's the correct tool to use for GPT didks.
[17:20] <vector_> but I got errors sudo mount --bind
[17:21] <jeek> 12.04 only has 2.2.22, we need 2.2.26 or 2.4 to pass this security audit. :(
[17:21] <vector_> so sudo flist doesn't matter?
[17:22] <vilemaxim> vector_, I don't know what sudo flist is
[17:22] <vector_> ok
[17:23] <vilemaxim> vector_, my machine doesn't have flist installed not does it know how to install it
[17:24] <Jordan_U> vector_: The partition shown in the output from f*disk* is not important to you.
[17:24] <vector_> I know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:24] <MonkeyDust> vilemaxim  tjrn you'll have to make your machine do it
[17:24] <MonkeyDust> then*
[17:25] <vector_> I tried going off this tutorial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajs9rO5upZA and error on sudo mount --bink
[17:26] <vector_> it fisk not flist
[17:27] <vector_> it fdisk not flist
[17:27] <llutz> mount has no such option --bink
[17:27] <vector_> I ment --bind
[17:28] <llutz> vector_: what error do you get when you try to do what exactly?
[17:28] <luiz> Guys anyone can help me with the modem 3g. Please I'm stuck 2 days with it
[17:29] <SchrodingersScat> weird, i can connect to my pptpd server, but now I can't make any outbound connections.  went through the install guide again and everything seemed to match
[17:29] <llutz> people still use pptp today? odd
[17:30] <SchrodingersScat> seemed like the easiest to get all my devices on.
[17:30] <SchrodingersScat> ie. phone
[17:30] <vilemaxim> vector_, well personally I'm not going to watch a youtube video.
[17:30] <llutz> SchrodingersScat: pptp is broken, use openvpn
[17:31] <vector_> give a sec
[17:31] <vector_> I says mount /mnt/dev does not exist
[17:32] <vector_> I says mount point /mnt/dev does not exist
[17:32] <vilemaxim> I would think it won't. what are you trying to do
[17:32] <jhutchins> vector_: So create the mount point.
[17:32] <vector_> s o how do I do that
[17:32] <vector_> so how do I do that
[17:32] <vilemaxim> vector_, mkdir
[17:33] <vilemaxim> vector_, this is for your bind mounts?
[17:33] <llutz> SchrodingersScat: what phone does still need pptp? for android 4.* there is "OpenVPN for Android", no root needed anymore
[17:34] <vector_> I'm confused
[17:34] <tony_> security  issues in ubuntu
[17:34] <Meerkat> Is there an easy way to start gedit minimized? Or even all programs that start?
[17:34] <jhutchins> llutz: I think you are poorly informed about pptp.
[17:35] <llutz> jhutchins: informed enough to know that it's considered broken (crypto)
[17:36] <SchrodingersScat> llutz: I need even less to run the pptp though.
[17:36] <vilemaxim> vector_, I'm attempting to help you.... but you are not answering my questions so it's kinda hard. I'm loosing interest in helping to be honest
[17:36] <tony_> network security project ideas in ubuntu
[17:36] <pcpcpc> Hi! I need your help. I try to get my data back from encrypted home folder. I used ecryptfs-recover-private and got a new home folder, but its still crypted. Anyone know what to do?
[17:37] <vector_> I'm going to try it later
[17:37] <vilemaxim> Running into an issue with x forwarding. I get an error "X11 forwarding request failed on channel 1" when I try to login. not sure why it's not channel 0. When I attempt to run something and X app I get "Error: no display specified" my ssh client can accept X from other servers. This server does have "X11Forwarding yes" in it's conf Google has been little help. Anyone got a clue for me.
[17:39] <bgardner> tony_: Please use full sentences, this channel is populated by humans.
[17:39] <jhutchins> vilemaxim: You might start with env | grep DISPLAY to see if a display is set and if so to what.  Check to make sure that the client has enabled forwarding as well.
[17:39] <jhutchins> vilemaxim: What environment are you forwarding _to_?
[17:40] <vilemaxim> ubuntu to ubuntu     echo $DISPLAY is empty
[17:40] <tony_> @bgardner_ am new to irc
[17:41] <bgardner> tony_: I understand.  This particular IRC channel is the Ubuntu support channel.  There are many real people here ready to help you with your questions.  Just type the Ubuntu question or problem in regular English and we will do what we can to help you.
[17:42] <vilemaxim> jhutchins, forwarding to my local machine. really it's the only way I know how. Client is corrent. It works on other servers just fine
[17:43] <binaryhat> im trying to Log ufw to a seperate logfile--->http://vincom2.wordpress.com/2010/04/07/logging-ufw-to-a-seperate-logfile/ but no luck
[17:44] <ceti331_> Can the 13' macbook pro retina drive 2 external monitors (different screens, not mirrored) .. Via the thunderbolt and hdmi i guess
[17:48] <pcpcpc> Hi I try to get my data back from encrypted home folder. I used ecryptfs-recover-private and got a new home folder, but its still crypted. Anyone know what to do?
[17:49] <SonikkuAmerica> ceti331_: (a) I've never seen a 13-foot MacBook Pro, and (b) is Ubuntu installed onto it?
[17:50] <SchrodingersScat> SonikkuAmerica: sounds huge
 Can the 13' macbook pro retina drive 2 external monitors (different screens, not mirrored) .. Via the thunderbolt and hdmi i guess <<< SchrodingersScatikr?
[17:51] <eqisow> Anybody had an issue with Intel HDMI audio where the audio device shows up and seems to be working, but there's no sound?
[17:51] <cordyceps> lsdvd always reports errors like http://paste.ubuntu.com. But the dvd's are fine. It's not the drive either. lsdvd version is the latest according to synaptic. ???
[17:52] <cordyceps> oops, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6640821
[17:54] <jeffrey_f> Thinkpad T60. Bluetooth works great.  After lid close=hibernate and de-hibernate bluetooth doesn't connect to nor find any devices.  This works fine after a fresh start from power-down.  Any ideas????
[17:56] <llutz> jeffrey_f: unload bluetooth when hibernating, reload it after.
[17:56] <cordyceps> lsdvd always reports errors like http://paste.ubuntu.com/6640821 But the dvd's are fine. It's not the drive either. lsdvd version is the latest according to synaptic. Ditto libdvdcss2 and libdvdread4. ???
[17:56] <ceti331_> Oops wrong channel
[17:58] <llutz> jeffrey_f: like mentioned here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1387211&p=12464999#post12464999
[17:59] <shazzr> Hi. Came back from holiday, and bootet my computer running Ubuntu 12.4.3, and the graphical user interface will not start. Last thing I can remember is that I might have done an sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade before I went home for xmas. I get no login screen for the graphical environment. Where could I look for error messages?
[17:59] <rcw2> what are the main differences between running ubuntu on a mac vs pc
[18:00] <jhutchins> shazzr: Can you get a console login with Ctrl-Alt-F1?
[18:00] <shazzr> On tty7 it says "Starting TiMidity++ ALSA midi emulation..."
[18:00] <shazzr> jhutchins: Yes. Running irssi from console as we speak...
[18:01] <gjm> my ubuntu is fucked :/
[18:02] <bazhang> no cursing here gjm
[18:02] <shazzr> gjm: How?
[18:02] <gjm> bazhang: why?
[18:03] <esde> Has anyone else experienced an issue wth Teamviewer on Ubuntu (12.04) dekstop, where TV works fine for a few days, and then suddenly inbound connection requests fail after ~90 seconds???
[18:05] <tyrniro> good evening
[18:06] <shazzr> jhutchins: I've tried to reinstall ubuntu-desktop, but there appears to be no such package installed. Also tried to delete a .Xsomething from ~/ but no luck. Even tried the good old sudo service gdm restart, but without any results.
[18:06] <jeffrey_f> llutz: Is this a bug?
[18:07] <llutz> jeffrey_f: more a common issue with some modules
[18:07] <AssociateX> hitsujiTMO, I have wifi working. Thank you for all of your help.
[18:07] <jeffrey_f> OK, giving it a try
[18:09] <esde> This bug sucks. Everytime I have unsaved worked save I end up losing it because rebooting is the only solution. >:(
[18:10] <tyrniro> I have quite a specific problem: I disassembled an old laptop, taking out the hard drive. I proceeded to plug it into a sata-adapter, which in turn connects to my ubuntu maschine via usb. fdisk shows the partitions correctly, 1-2 are windows system stuff, 3 is the main/biggest partition. when I try to mount it(sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb3 /media/some-mount-point), it gives me the error "ntfs signature missing". has anyone experienced this pr
[18:11] <Kaedenn> I did an apt-get upgrade, where can I find a changelog of a specific package I just upgraded? I'm familiar with dpkg and command-line.
[18:12] <llutz> tyrniro: "sudo blkid dev/sdX3" shows what? replace sdX with the real devicename please
[18:12] <Jordan_U> tyrniro: Your message was cut off at "experienced this pr".
[18:13] <llutz> tyrniro: /dev...
[18:13] <Kaedenn> The package was libnss, and it distrusted a certain CA. I want to find out what CA that was again.
[18:13] <ssssss13IU1O3> c
[18:13] <trism> Kaedenn: /usr/share/doc/package_name/changelog.Debian.gz
[18:13] <shazzr> jhutchins: Hmm...tried a startx, and got some error message regarding my Nvidia card. Wrong version number and some kernel stuff. Trying to delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf and rebooting....
[18:13] <Kaedenn> trism: danke!
[18:15] <tyrniro> llutz: it shows nothing...
[18:15] <shazzr> jhutchins: Nope. No luck.
[18:15] <Hydr0p0nX> running ubuntu 12.04.3 and audio out over HDMI isn't working, I've made sure all my outputs are unmuted and turned up, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6640971/
[18:15] <llutz> tyrniro: pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l" please
[18:15] <davidzzjee> hey
[18:18] <tyrniro> paste is at http://pastebin.com/qbqUsChV
[18:19] <llutz> tyrniro: we talk about /dev/sda? try mounting /dev/sda5 not /dev/sda3 (which doesn't exist)
[18:21] <tyrniro> llutz: sda is from my own maschine, which has full disk encryption. the external one does not even show up. also, sorry for answering so slow, big lag since being in israel
[18:21] <llutz> tyrniro: oh, but fdisk had shown the layout before?
[18:22] <Jordan_U> tyrniro: It looks like either A: You have an invalid partition table or B: Your external enclosure is not exposing the entire disk.
[18:24] <bonez2046> I am setting up 13.10 on an older pc, trying out the encryption items... it's prompting for a 'security key' but gives no parameters about what a key would be
[18:24] <bonez2046> ideas? is it a key phrase or password/code
[18:25] <Jordan_U> bonez2046: Please pastebin the exact text of the prompt, or post a screenshot.
[18:25] <dragon644> Hi
[18:25] <Jordan_U> tyrniro: Please pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l".
[18:26] <bonez2046> it's on another pc, let me copy it all over
[18:27] <dragon644> What's the best window manager nowadays
[18:27] <kostkon> !poll
[18:28] <Ponch0> i'm gonna get a goat to eat my trash so i can be eco-friendly
[18:28] <bazhang> Ponch0, wrong channel for that
[18:28] <tyrniro> llutz: I had to reconnect, did I miss anything in the meantime?
[18:29] <Ponch0> bazhang: sorry I thought I was in a diff channel
[18:29] <jeffrey_f> llutz:  That seemed to work.  This being a workaround, right?
[18:29] <abu_sado> Ponch0: then eat the goat
[18:29] <cashnguns> Sounds like good goat milk and cheese
[18:30] <vik> do any one why internet speed is low in ubuntu terminal . Because in windows internet  is good
[18:31] <vik> sorry
[18:31] <vik>  do any one know why internet speed is low in ubuntu terminal . Because in windows internet  is good
[18:31] <Pessimist> !Ipv6
[18:33] <Ponch0> lol
[18:34] <bonez2046> Jordan_U: it prompts with 'Choose a security key:' and then asks to confirm it a second time
[18:34] <bonez2046> Jordan_U: what i want to know is the required amount of characters, whether it's a phrase or just a password
[18:35] <vik> k thank u ubottu :-D
[18:36] <Pessimist> bonez2046: It should be as long as you can reasonably remember and you are willing to type.
[18:37] <bonez2046> Pessimist: so a phrase is fine, not just a word
[18:37] <ne0_> hi
[18:38] <Pessimist> bonez2046: If you actually set up encryption (LUKS) through terminal it stops reading at \n. It doesn't matter if it contains spaces or other symbols. The hash function takes the as much text as you give it and returns a result
[18:40] <bonez2046> ok ...thanks
[18:40] <bonez2046> it's been a while since I ran a new ubuntu install
[18:41] <rijack> I'm having trouble making a voice call through empathy
[18:43] <rijack> is there things i need to install that arent there by default
[18:47] <Hydr0p0nX> running ubuntu 12.04.3 and audio out over HDMI isn't working, I've made sure all my outputs are unmuted and turned up, can someone take a look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/6640971/ and see if there's anything i'm missing ?
[18:47] <Jordan_U> Hydr0p0nX: Try asking in #alsa
[18:47] <pcpcpc> Someone know how to change the PASSPHRASE from ecryptfs?
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> pcpcpc  you forgot your passphrase?
[18:55] <john83> hello :)
[18:56] <john83> how can i remove ubuntu cloud icon from top toolbar?
[18:57] <john83> ok i used google.com found it
[18:57] <john83> nm :)
[19:03] <rcw2> what are the main differences between running ubuntu on a mac vs pc
[19:05] <pcpcpc> MonkeyDust: no, i didnt forgot it, i would like to change it
[19:06] <Pss> Bonsoir
[19:06] <Pss> !aide
[19:06] <bazhang> !fr | Pss
[19:07] <Jazayri> In firefox when i use google for searching anything.. when i comeback with theleft arrow i've got a blank page ! no search results are displayed
[19:09] <pcpcpc> MonkeyDust: Do you know how to change the Passphrase from ecryptfs, i have the old one.
[19:10] <MonkeyDust> pcpcpc  no, i was going to say you need the old one in order to successfully create a new
[19:10] <Iszak> Jazayri sounds more like a firefox / google issue than ubuntu, try #firefox
[19:11] <Malice_> hey guys, I would like to open video dvd with VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS files on it, I'm on Elementary OS, which is Ubuntu-derived...
[19:11] <Malice_> Any ideas?
[19:11] <Malice_> I tried "Open Disc/Directory" on VLC, but it doesn't work
[19:11] <Malice_> Same with Totem Video Player and Gnome Mplayer
[19:11] <pcpcpc> MonkeyDust: Okay :(
[19:12] <Jazayri> Iszak: yes you're right, it's more logic :)
[19:12] <ppk_> hello there
[19:12] <Jazayri> ppk_: yo
[19:12] <Malice_> Anybody?
[19:13] <MonkeyDust> Malice_  maybe the people from elementary changed soemthing... better ask in their channel
[19:13] <Malice_> I would guess that I'm lacking some lib/codec, but well, I don't know
[19:13] <Malice_> okay, thanks...
[19:13] <OerHeks> Malice_, derivates are not supported, but your answer is here > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[19:13] <ppk_> I hope it won't be rude, but I've come here trying to find a solution to a problem I've been struggling with. I've obviously tried to google it, but to no avail
[19:13] <Malice_> THanks, OerHeks and MonkeyDust
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> asking a question is not rude
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> ppk_  ^^^^^
[19:14] <ppk_> MonkeyDust, I've just thought that perhaps one should contribute first
[19:14] <ppk_> it's just that I'm a total noob :)
[19:15] <bkuberek> hello world
[19:15] <ppk_> I've just re-installed my Ubuntu. I mounted /home on my second partition. both permissions and ownership are right, but programs can't seem to be able to access /home
[19:16] <esde> I cannot believe I have such headache with teamviewer and no one else
[19:16] <ppk_> I mean... I haven't really figured out the pattern. if I, say, save a file, "manually", it works. now, however, pulseaudio seems to have some kind of panic attack
[19:17] <bkuberek> About 3 weeks ago I got a Dell Optiplex 990 and install Ubuntu 12.04 desktop. I am having performance issues with the GUI. I posted it here: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on Dell Optiplex 990 - Performance issues <http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2193998>
[19:17] <bkuberek> Any one familiar witht the Dell Optiplex family and why I might be having UI problems?
[19:17] <bkuberek> The server side of the machine is fine and it does play HD and Blueray movies
[19:18] <ppk_> It worked for some time after the install and now began to peep like crazy
[19:18] <germanstudent> Hey, does someone know a twitter client for command line that supports line breaks in tweets? Or a workaround? I tried \n etc. with ttyter but still no success
[19:21] <john_doe_jr> In the following location /dev/disk0s2 …what does the "s" in s2 stand for?
[19:21] <ppk_> MonkeyDust, rings a bell?
[19:21] <pcpcpc> Do you know how to change the Passphrase from ecryptfs, i do have the old one.
[19:23] <pcpcpc> Do you know how to change the mount Passphrase from ecryptfs , i have the old one, but no login passphrase! Please
[19:25] <esde> Ok, since teamviewer for ubuntu is hit or miss. And now i can't get into my system via remote desktop... is there anyway to save the work I have open before rebooting via ssh? Please say there is, I don't want to have to wait another 2 and a half hours to use my desktop again :(
[19:26] <Pessimist> pcpcpc: ecrypt-rewrap-passphrase might do the trick
[19:29] <suyash1629> hi guys, i need help. from last few days i m unable to copy or place files from my phone, when i connect it i can see all the files located there but i m unable to copy file from there and also unable copy file into it. my cone is connected as digital audio player. few days back it was working and also in my friend pc with ubuntu its working but in my i get Error getting file: -6: Not Supported
[19:29] <suyash1629> i can view and check all file but i m unable to delete them copy them or add any file into it..
[19:33] <Pss> help
[19:34] <Pss> "I used ubuntu 13.10 when I turn on my pc I typed my password correct it wants not enter my session I do not know what to do!"
[19:35] <Iszak> Pss that is hard to identify the issue there.
[19:35] <Iszak> Pss perhaps try selecting a different GUI?
[19:37] <TarasG> Is there any way to edit the value of GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT from the grub shell that shows up when you misconfigure grub and it wont load? Or should i just get a live cd and reinstall it?
[19:37] <Hydr0p0nX> hold shift through boot sequence
[19:38] <Hydr0p0nX> select the default boot option, hit e
[19:40] <TarasG> Doesnt work, i still go to a bkack screen with GNU GRUB version whatever and a minimal bash-like shell
[19:44] <suyash1629> someone please help, i need to make it work anyhow.
[19:45] <esde> Has anyone else experienced an issue wth Teamviewer on Ubuntu (12.04) dekstop, where TV works fine for a few days, and then suddenly inbound connection requests fail after ~90 seconds???
[19:54] <Kurvivor> Hello
[19:54] <Kurvivor> how do i install gnome 3.10?
[19:55] <OerHeks> !nounity
[19:56] <Kurvivor> i do already have gnome 3.8
[19:56] <Kurvivor> but later verrsion is out
[19:57] <applefanboy001> macOS ++
[20:08] <Kurvivor> Where can i unset shortcuts for language switch?
[20:13] <MrJerome> Coming from Premiere Pro, what is a comparable video editor for ubuntu? I need firewire capture, mulitple cameras, titles, and basic editing and transitions
[20:14] <gordonjcp> MrJerome: there really isn't a professional-grade video editing package on Linux yet
[20:14] <gordonjcp> MrJerome: you'd need the same sort of work as went into Ardour, and the same sort of industry backing
[20:14] <gordonjcp> MrJerome: that said, you could do worse than look at kdenlive
[20:15] <roobixx> Sadly at the moment nothing is comparable to Premiere
[20:15] <roobixx> Might look at openshot....they seem to be gaining a lot of steam
[20:16] <gordonjcp> not tried openshot for a while
[20:16] <gordonjcp> how's pitivi coming along?
 MrJerome: there really isn't a professional-grade video editing package on Linux yet
[20:18] <Calinou> fun fact: Blender can do video editing
[20:18] <Calinou> you could try the Lightworks beta, maybe
 Sadly at the moment nothing is comparable to Premier
[20:18] <Calinou> your opinino
[20:18] <Calinou> opininon*
[20:18] <FloodBot1> Calinou: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:18] <Calinou> few people need what premiere does
[20:20] <roobixx> that is true but the question was asked based on what Premiere does do.
[20:21] <Calinou> people like MrJerome won't have a fun time here, they can go back to their rich hobbies on OS X
[20:23] <MrJerome> I'll try kdenlive and openshot. Trying to ditch windows at work and it seems that video editing is the last straw
[20:24] <OerHeks> check ubuntu-studio > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageList
[20:24] <Calinou> ubuntu-studio could make some stuff easier
[20:24] <roobixx> MrJerome: The only thing I still use windows/OSX is vidoe working Premiere and After Effects... Feel your pain
[20:25] <gordonjcp> also KXStudio
[20:26] <OerHeks> gordonjcp +1
[20:26] <gordonjcp> OerHeks: evening
[20:26] <gordonjcp> computers are terrible for trying to do audio or video on
[20:27] <gordonjcp> KXStudio has the distinction of *actually bloody working as advertised*
[20:27] <gordonjcp> but I'm still sticking to my W30 for sequencing, 'cos there's still no good sequencer for Linux
[20:29] <Calinou> there's no good sequencer for a kernel
[20:29]  * Calinou rolls eyes
[20:29] <MrJerome> How about a good encoding tool?
[20:30] <Calinou> VLC, handbrake...
[20:30] <Calinou> ffmpeg...
[20:30] <Calinou> you have a lot of choices
[20:30] <OerHeks> depends from .. to .. ?
[20:31] <MrJerome> h264
[20:31] <Calinou> they all support h264
[20:31] <Calinou> (which sucks for people in the US...)
[20:38] <autoplayer> hi. I have 2 partitions (1 with windows, 1 with data) and some unallocated space. If I install ubuntu alongside windows, it will use the unallocated partition?
[20:38] <autoplayer> or the partition with data
[20:38] <MonkeyDust> !arista
[20:38] <MonkeyDust> !info arista
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> autoplayer  the installer let's you choose
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> lets*
[20:39] <mar77i> hello #uuntu. I'm having a weird problem with unity not loading anything in a reasonable amount of time...
[20:39] <onetinsoldier> autoplayer: when the installer comes to setting up your hd partitions for linux, you can choose "something else" to make sure the unallocated space is selected
[20:39] <mar77i> *#ubuntu
[20:40] <autoplayer> onetinsoldier: and it will dualboot after if I choose that?
[20:40] <FranktheTank> Hey all. I was wondering if anyone has knowledge as to how to install the android composite ADB interface on ubuntu?
[20:40] <mar77i> do you have any advice on what I should try to see programs listed after a little time?
[20:41] <onetinsoldier> autoplayer: you'll have a few different options to choose from, choose "something else", select the unallocated space to install linux on, and then yes, it will dual-boot
[20:41] <autoplayer> onetinsoldier: ok. thanks
[20:42] <TRoGd0R> @mar77i: You could open up a terminal and type top
[20:43] <mar77i> TRoGd0R: I can't run a terminal, because it doesn't show up in the dash
[20:44] <mar77i> the knob there goes round for forever...
[20:44] <mar77i> that's the problem.
[20:45] <TRoGd0R> Try to press Ctrl + Alt + T
[20:45] <bonne> hi i have a little trouble finding Drive routines to Radeon HD 6370m, can anyone rackomedera a good wed site?
[20:46] <bleb> I want to maintain a bootable copy of my main drive as a backup. What's the simplest way to do this via the command line?
[20:46] <mar77i> there's no process particularly using resources.
[20:46] <mar77i> all I can tell dash doesn't find anything
[20:47] <mar77i> cpu is on ~6.5%, ram on about 40% with cac he 60...
[20:47] <mar77i> which amounts to about a gig.
[20:48] <glitsj16> mar77i: did you uninstall certain unity related packages perhaps? like unity-lens-applications for example?
[20:48] <mar77i> no? I can go and reinstall that particular one.
[20:48] <MonkeyDust> !info bootcdbackup | bleb havent tried this myself, but may be what you're looking for
[20:49] <glitsj16> mar77i: that in particular is 'in charge' of launching and installing applications .. maybe not a bad place to start
[20:50] <onetinsoldier> !info bootcd
[20:50] <MonkeyDust> bleb  remastersys perhaps
[20:50] <CarlFK> anyone know of a nifty ping grapher?  trying to view stats on the crapy cable modem behavior that keeps bouncing between good and complete garbage every 30 min or so
[20:50] <onetinsoldier> Build an image of your running Debian System with the command bootcdwrite.
[20:50] <Kurvivor> гигтег 13ю10 икщлу дфтпгфпу ыцшесрштп
[20:51] <Kurvivor> ubuntu 13.10 broke language switching
[20:51] <Kurvivor> how can i remove language switch shortcut?
[20:51] <Krenair> I'm trying to get Nautilus to copy something like almost 390GB to a new drive. But as it's preparing to copy it thinks it's got at least 403GB of files, and that number is going up
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> Krenair  yes, better use rsync for such large files
[20:51] <Krenair> (The partition it's copying from is only 400GB big)
[20:52] <Krenair> MonkeyDust, rsync for huge directories across one machine?
[20:52] <MonkeyDust> Krenair  yes
[20:52] <bleb> I imagine creating the initial backup should be easy (couldn't I just use dd?); the next issue would be how to make efficient future backups, e.g. only updating directories that have changed.
[20:54] <Krenair> MonkeyDust, alex@alex:/$ sudo rsync / /media/AlexsNewDrive --exclude=/media/*
[20:54] <Krenair> skipping directory .
[20:54] <Krenair> alex@alex:/$
[20:54] <MonkeyDust> bleb  you too,  it's called incremental backup, you can do that with rsync
[20:54] <Krenair> what?
[20:55] <jeff_> hello?
[20:55] <bonne> hi i have a little trouble finding Drive routines to Radeon HD 6370m, can anyone recommend a good web site? how I should proceed
[20:55] <mar77i> glitsj16: anything that could be out of date in the config I could look for? this is an upgraded trusty
[20:56] <bleb> MonkeyDust: thanks, I was thinking maybe rsync. I guess I'll read the man page.
[20:57] <onetinsoldier> mar77i: are you running "trusty"?
[20:58] <bonne> hi i have a little trouble finding Drive routines to Radeon HD 6370m, can anyone recommend a good web site? how I should proceed
[20:58] <mar77i> hmm.
[20:58] <mar77i> yes?
[20:59] <ramborocks> sorry
[20:59] <mar77i> you're probably going to point me to +1 now?
[20:59] <onetinsoldier> mar77i: i am also running trusty. i think the ubuntu/compiz desktop is under heavy development right now and fairly, broken shall i say? anyway, you might try the channel #ubuntu+1
[20:59] <mar77i> I know.
[20:59] <mar77i> as I said :)
[20:59] <KrZPi> 9
[21:00] <ramborocks> i cant get my permissions changed in ubuntu 13.10
[21:01] <ramborocks> my harddrive wont let me change permissions for my external
[21:02] <Krenair> Any idea MonkeyDust?
[21:02] <FranktheTank> ramborocks: use sudo
[21:02] <ramborocks> im not sure of the command i would use i been trying in gui
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> Krenair  ?
[21:03] <FranktheTank> ramborocks: learn to use terminal. and learn to use google. Google, "How to change permissions of external hd ubuntu terminal"
[21:03] <Krenair> MonkeyDust, I tried to rsync but it just said "skipping directory ."
[21:03] <onetinsoldier> mar77i: i'm using KDE in trusty since the ubuntu desktop seems to be under heavy development and broken at this time.
[21:04] <ramborocks> frank you broke google
[21:04] <onetinsoldier> mar77i: kde 4.12.0 was released pretty recently.
[21:04] <ramborocks> Your search - "How to change permissions of external hd ubuntu terminal" - did not match any documents.
[21:04] <FranktheTank> ramborocks: hold on
[21:04] <ramborocks> i took the quotes out
[21:04] <ramborocks> but just showing you for lol
[21:05] <mar77i> onetinsoldier: as I said in +1 (mind joining so I don't have to keep xposting), my friend is pretty much familiar with gnome-shell, which is installed on this machine and ready.
[21:05] <MonkeyDust> Krenair  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync
[21:05] <onetinsoldier> mar77i: sure, but i don't know that i can be of much help, but sure
[21:05] <Iszak> Where can I download ubuntu over HTTPS?
[21:06] <FranktheTank> ramborocks: http://bit.ly/1dFUpDR
[21:06] <mar77i> Iszak: how about you only get the checksum over https?
[21:06] <ramborocks> lol
[21:06] <Iszak> mar77i I'd rather both.
[21:06] <FranktheTank> ramborocks: lol
[21:07] <ramborocks> thanks frank
[21:07] <FranktheTank> ramborocks: i get lots of results
[21:07] <FranktheTank> ramborocks: did that bring up any results for you?
[21:07] <mar77i> so your boss doesn't see you downloaded ubuntu? don't your dns lookups compromise you already?
[21:07] <Iszak> mar77i no, we use ubuntu so it's okay, just for security.
[21:08] <mar77i> but you do have the security if the checksums match.
[21:08] <ramborocks> yes frank
[21:08] <FranktheTank> awesome
[21:08] <ramborocks> im sorting through the gibberish now
[21:08] <Iszak> mar77i I want more.
[21:09] <FranktheTank> ramborocks: yeah it's annoying to get used to. but once you get the hang of it then it makes figuring out issues easier than coming here. It also makes you self reliant xD
[21:09] <SaberX01> There's no reason to send the ISO or the MD5 over https .. Ive' not seen any morrirs doing it nut they may be out there somewhere.
[21:09] <SaberX01> *but ... .
[21:10] <mar77i> Iszak: look. https is wasted cycles on both sides, and what's the added security if https is mainly not designed for data integrity but rather garbling throughput for the outside world?
[21:10] <FranktheTank> ramborocks: after a while, if you cannot figure it out, then I can walk you through it
[21:11] <mar77i> if the checksums match, your iso image is authentic. read up on what https does, man, you shouldn't even trust ca certs too much...
[21:11] <Iszak> what about if something manipulates the iso image and check sum?
[21:12] <Calinou> just saying, but packages in Ubuntu itself are signed.
[21:12] <Calinou> (if that is relevant)
[21:12] <MonkeyDust> Iszak  please don't start, such conspiracy theories are nice for #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:12] <Calinou> you can also encrypt an Ubuntu install
[21:12] <mar77i> :D
[21:12] <FranktheTank> Iszak, mar77i: I don't mean to butt in...but why are we discussing security?
[21:12] <Iszak> MonkeyDust conspiracy? please, look at the snowden leaks.
[21:12] <MonkeyDust> Iszak  great, but not in this channel
[21:12] <Iszak> FranktheTank I just want to receive my iso over HTTPS
[21:12] <Calinou> snowden leaks have nothing to do
[21:12] <Iszak> It's a simple request, is it possible or not.
[21:13] <mar77i> but even if creating the same md5 is HARD it doesn't mean it wouldn't BREAK a bootable ISO
[21:13] <FranktheTank> iszak: https doesn't do much if someone is stripping it 0_o
[21:13] <FranktheTank> which the nsa can do, if you want to be paranoid
[21:14] <Iszak> mar77i creating the same md5 is easy.
[21:14] <SaberX01> Iszak, it is possible, yes it's possible, however, the probability is astronomical.
[21:14] <ramborocks> im trying to see what my partition uuid is with sudo blkid
[21:14] <ramborocks> but it does not bring results
[21:14] <mar77i> Iszak: if it calms you down, ubuntu.com is 91.189.94.156
[21:15] <FranktheTank> ramborocks: pm me. I'll walk you through it
[21:15] <Iszak> I recommend everyone uses sha256
[21:15] <ramborocks> lol
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> ramborocks  try with sudo
[21:15] <FranktheTank> ramborocks: type /query FranktheTank
[21:16] <SaberX01> If your that worried about the On-line ISO, Order the CD's from Canonical
[21:16]  * Calinou has never checked a ISO he uses...
[21:16] <Calinou> it always worked though :/
[21:16] <Calinou> could have issues too
[21:16] <Calinou> CDs don't have 0% failure rate
[21:17] <mar77i> dns isn't totally easy to forge, isos the less and if you don't want to rely on dns ins sources.list, package signing actually does the rest
[21:18] <FranktheTank> ramborocks: see my pm
[21:33] <raptor121> test
[21:33] <xangua> !test | raptor121
[21:34] <raptor121> oh, sry :) still new to the irc stuff
[21:38] <tortib> I tried to install the debs from their installer but I keep getting this error:
[21:38] <tortib> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.11.0-13-generic (x86_64)
[21:38] <Rook> Hello! i type and replace the forward letters, do anyone know how turn off? ty!
[21:40] <Rook> anyone?
[21:40] <tortib> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6641958/ is the error log
[21:42] <tortib> can anyone help me with my ATI HD Radeon 7950 3D Acceleration problem?
[21:45] <tortib> I'm running 13.04
[21:46] <tortib> It's a supported version and I would like 3D acceleration on my video card.
[21:46] <tortib> can someone please help?
[21:46] <Hydr0p0nX> what's the problem ?
[21:47] <tortib> well i'm using the fglrx driver from the repo and i don't have 3d acceleration
[21:47] <tortib> so I downloaded the ATI drives from their website and I get an error when trying to build the module
[21:47] <tortib> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6641958/ is the error log
[21:48] <tortib> I built the packages (debs) for Saucy too using their script
[21:48] <tortib> I don't know C very well so I don't know why i'm getting this error
[21:49] <tgm4883> tortib, where did you download the drivers from/what drivers did you download?
[21:49] <tortib> from AMD.com
[21:49] <tortib> i also get these warnings when installing the debs from amd.com
[21:49] <tortib> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6641958/
[21:49] <tortib> woops
[21:49] <tortib> update-alternatives: warning: forcing reinstallation of alternative /usr/lib/fglrx/ld.so.conf because link group x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf is broken
[21:49] <tortib> update-alternatives: warning: forcing reinstallation of alternative /usr/lib/fglrx/ld.so.conf because link group x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf is broken
[21:49] <FloodBot1> tortib: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:49] <tortib> sorry about the flood :x
[21:57] <Wh4tTheFvk> Picture of my whore ex-girlfriend naked: http://imgchili.net/show/43408/43408275_image.jpg
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[21:58] <tortib> can anyone help me with ATI 3D Acceleration? please?
[21:59] <SaberX01> maybe try in the ATI channel ..
[22:00] <Gnea> !ati | tortib
[22:00] <tortib> Gnea: will that give me 3D Acceleration as well?
[22:00] <glitsj16> tortib: i can't explain why you get the errors, but have you tried the xorg edgers PPA yet?
[22:00] <Gnea> tortib: perhaps.  I'm an nvidia guy, I don't do ati.
[22:01] <SaberX01> Ditto
[22:01] <tortib> Gnea I tried using the binary drives from amd.com site and i get a build error on the fglrx module.
[22:01] <Gnea> tortib: but others have found success with it, so it's worth looking into.
[22:01] <tortib> glitsj16: no I haven't
[22:01] <tortib> Gnea: i've read this before.
[22:01] <tortib> It's a bit outdated as Xorg doesn't use xorg.conf anymore
[22:02] <Gnea> tortib: well, from what I understand, if you're trying to use source that's not from the ubuntu repositories, since it's setup to accomodate ubuntu, then you might break something
[22:02] <tortib> the ATI settings are controlled by the catalyst control center
[22:02] <tortib> Gnea: the source drives don't support 3d acceleration...
[22:02] <Gnea> tortib: actually xorg.conf is still used, just not by default - you can drop one into /etc/X11/ and if it's there, it will read it first
[22:02] <tortib> well they do
[22:02] <tortib> but they're very very slow
[22:02] <Eleirs> hello all!
[22:02] <Gnea> tortib: what card do you have, exactly?
[22:03] <tortib> okay I'll repeat myself again
[22:03] <tortib> It's an ATI HD Radeon 7950
[22:03] <glitsj16> tortib: if your comfortable with adding a PPA and know how to use ppa-purge you can try that at least, they have similar or even newer versions for fglrx on raring/saucy --> https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[22:03] <Gnea> okay
[22:03] <tortib> glitsj16: i already have that ppa added to my repo
[22:03] <tortib> I just don't know how to use those drivers
[22:04] <tortib> s/drivers/modules
[22:04] <Gnea> tortib: it looks like it has an updated fglrx driver that you can install via apt
[22:04] <glitsj16> tortib: if you already have them, why not check in the 'additional drivers' tab in software sources that they are activated? shouldn't be much more than that
[22:04] <Gnea> tortib: so that PPA could be what you need
[22:05] <uBUXUBu> hi
[22:05] <Con7e> hello kind people!
[22:05] <Gnea> tortib: this goes back to what I told you about ubuntu-specific packaging of drivers. if you've got anything installed directly from ati/amd's site, you should remove it and try this ppa
[22:06] <Gnea> !ppa
[22:06] <t0ntin> Hi, all! I updated  a browser called srware iron. Nothing happens now after I double click on the icon. Any way I can use this program again?
[22:06] <tortib> Gnea: perhaps you're missing the point the drivers from ubuntus repository do NOT have 3D acceleration
[22:06] <Gnea> also, that URL from the !ppa from ubottu is broken :-)
[22:06] <tortib> i'm using them currently
[22:06] <Gnea> tortib: do you not understand what a PPA is?
[22:06] <tortib> yes I do
[22:06] <Con7e> I need some help understanding Pacemaker/Corosync
[22:07] <Gnea> then you shouldn't be telling me that I'm the one missing the point
[22:07] <glitsj16> tortib: they are the proprietary drivers in that PPA, they should have 3D accel
[22:07] <Con7e> I usually run Pacemaker/Heartbeat
[22:07] <bernd> QUIT
[22:07] <patmaddox> I updated the LC_ALL locale var using "sudo update-locale LC_ALL=en_US.utf8" – I have to log out and log back for the variables to take effect when I run "locale" with no args. Is there a way to reload the LC_* env vars from the command-line after setting LC_ALL with locale?
[22:07] <tortib> glitsj16: yeah i'm switching to them now
[22:08] <tortib> i'll see if they work
[22:08] <Fudge> hi are their known issues using motherboards with VIA sound with Ubuntu
[22:09] <Gnea> Fudge: they're known to work, usually
[22:10] <Fudge> maybe this persons is muted or something then
[22:10] <SaberX01> patmaddox, I think, after you make the changes, to tricker them: sudo locale-gen
[22:10] <Gnea> Fudge: who?
[22:10] <SaberX01> *trigger
[22:11] <patmaddox> SaberX01: unfortunately not :\
[22:12] <SaberX01> patmaddox, man locale  next then
[22:13] <patmaddox> SaberX01: yeah...nothin there. The best info I found is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale which has "Note: changes take effect only after a fresh login."
[22:14] <SaberX01> patmaddox, that's not so bad, much better than a re-boot.
[22:15] <patmaddox> SaberX01: eh not helpful really. I'm doing this in a chef script so I need it to just work. They're just environment variables so I can't imagine it's all that difficult...just gotta find where they get set
[22:16] <Avner0> foo bar
[22:16] <Avner0> foo
[22:19] <SaberX01> patmaddox, well id' suggest you look at /etc/default/locale and / or ~/.pam_environment and red up on how to use them.
[22:19] <SaberX01> *read
[22:23] <patmaddox> SaberX01: thanks :)  I get environment variables and have /etc/default/locale set up how I want...just wondering how I can reset the LC_* env vars appropriately based on the new contents of /ect/default/locale ... without logging out and back in
[22:24] <pyrobisqit> is Dovecot the best IMAP server?
[22:24] <MonkeyDust> if you like it, then yes, pyrobisqit
[22:26] <Lexr2004> hello
[22:26] <onetinsoldier> hi
[22:27] <Guest26571> hi
[22:28] <Con7e> I need some help understanding Pacemaker/Corosync
[22:28] <Con7e> I usually run Pacemaker/heartbeat
[22:29] <u2Pf2n> Hi
[22:29] <Scrat> I need help with my Ipod touch 4th gen and putting music onto it.
[22:30] <Guest34020> I need help with my Ipod touch 4th gen and putting music onto it.
[22:30] <MonkeyDust> !ipod | Guest34020 start here
[22:32] <mrpanda> :)
[22:32] <mrpanda> !mp3 |format
[22:33] <hans__> hi guys
[22:33] <mrpanda> hey
[22:33] <onetinsoldier> howdy
[22:39] <Avner0> hello
[22:43] <Ceraphin> Hi
[22:43] <onetinsoldier> howdy
[22:43]  * Avner0 foo1
[22:43] <Ceraphin> Is there anyone who had tried Ubuntu touch on nexus 7 3G?
[22:44]  * Avner0 thinks this is fun!
[22:45] <SaberX01> Ceraphin, maybe #ubuntu-touch better channel for that question
[22:45] <Ceraphin> yeah just found it
[22:46] <Ceraphin> thanks SaberX01
[22:48] <jhutchins> Ceraphin: I thought there were only two versions of the nexus 7
[22:49] <Ceraphin> 2011/2013
[22:50] <Ceraphin> and Wifi / Wifi+3G
[22:50] <xsi> How to make single-level openbox menu? via menu.xml I've wrote <item> without <menu> and only 1st work - lxterminal.
[22:55] <sideup66> hello room
[22:56] <sideup66> is there any way i can get some help with xubuntu 12.04, i asked in that room and i think the entire room collectively took a nap oO
[22:57] <cihhan_> hi all
[22:57] <gvo> sideup66: just ask a question.
[22:57] <sideup66> but in any event, I have a netgear wna1000m wifi dongle, it works just fine out of the box, however, upon a warm restart of the pc (not powering off) it will boot up and show "disabled by hardware switch" but a poweroff and the device seems to work perfectly fine
[22:57] <sideup66> is there a way to get ubuntu to see that the device is still on and awake
[22:57] <cihhan_> im trying to install ubuntu 12.04 server to a dell desktop but after the installation, when i reboot the machine, it freezes. What I read from the screen is fsck from util-linux 2.20.1
[22:57] <cihhan_> any suggestions?
[22:59] <WhatIsTheMatrix> cihhan_: you keep getting that if you reboot? you keep getting the fsck message? or have you rebooted since it ran the fsck?
[23:01] <cihhan_> WhatIsTheMatrix, that s what I get from the screen -- it shows some info very fast and then this one and it freezes
[23:01] <sideup66> does it make any sense also that lsusb shows the device name on the usb port then shows [Realtek RTL 8188CUS
[23:01] <sideup66> }
[23:02] <WhatIsTheMatrix> cihhan_: so you have tried to reboot since it ran the fsck then?
[23:02] <WhatIsTheMatrix> cihhan_: in other words, you keep trying to reboot and you keep getting this problem?
[23:02] <cihhan_> yes i reboot and when it comes there, the same screen, it freezes
[23:03] <WhatIsTheMatrix> cihhan_: sounds bad
[23:03] <cihhan_> WhatIsTheMatrix,oohh after this one when I reboot, it shows data
[23:03] <WhatIsTheMatrix> oh?
[23:03] <WhatIsTheMatrix> cihhan_: you mean it's booting now? or?
[23:03] <cihhan_> WhatIsTheMatrix, it says Adding NUMBERS wasp on /dev/sda2. Priority:-1 extentx:1 across: NUMBERS
[23:03] <cihhan_> WhatIsTheMatrix, nope it s not booting yet
[23:04] <WhatIsTheMatrix> cihhan_: you used an installer cd/dvd to install ubuntu?
[23:04] <cihhan_> WhatIsTheMatrix, yes a CD
[23:05] <WhatIsTheMatrix> cihhan_: don't know that i can help much. but can you boot up into that live installer cd again right now?
[23:07] <glitsj16> sideup66: have you checked with 'rfkill list' what it states for the dongle when it works versus when it boots with that hardware disabled message ?
[23:08] <sideup66> no I actually havent
[23:08] <sideup66> so I would reboot the system then run rfkill list
[23:09] <glitsj16> sideup66: just a thought to get a clearer view on what might be the issue .. i'd try to run that command twice yes, one when it works ok vs when it doesn't
[23:10] <fpghost84> I have a Radeon HD 8670M Hybrid card and upon installation Ubuntu installed the proprietary fglrx drivers (I guess because the open source don't support my card, so jockey installed the AMD ones). The system seems to run OK, but I can a strange error in "x-0.log": FATAL: Module fglrx not found. Also modinfo fglrx says could not find. Although bizarrely "lsmod | grep fglrx" shows it. What's going here?
[23:10] <sideup66> ok, i can run it now then reboot and report back
[23:11] <sideup66> ok at the moment, it returns: softkill no
[23:11] <glitsj16> sideup66: there's an init job that saves/restores the rfkill state on boot/shutdown (look in /etc/init) so it might be saving the state wrongly
[23:11] <sideup66> hardkill: no
[23:11] <glitsj16> sideup66: that's what you should get when it works yesregular when it works
[23:11] <glitsj16> *typos srry
[23:12] <cihhan_> WhatIsTheMatrix, I will try that way as well
[23:13] <glitsj16> sideup66:  /var/lib/rfkill/saved-state holds the state value, so run that too in each case
[23:13] <sideup66> ok, let me take a look at that
[23:13] <cihhan_> WhatIsTheMatrix, very interestingly when I run the safe mode and then say continue (without doing anything) it works
[23:13] <WhatIsTheMatrix> cihhan_: if you boot up to the cd i think you might be able to run some commands to try and get some insight into the problem
[23:13] <WhatIsTheMatrix> cihhan_: okay. interesting
[23:14] <fpghost84> also I get: aticonfig -pxl ....."aticonfig: No supported adapters detected"
[23:14] <sideup66> hmmm
[23:14] <sideup66> /var/lib/rfkill/saved-state shows permission denied...even as room
[23:14] <sideup66> root
[23:14] <glitsj16> sideup66: odd
[23:15] <Fatimah_> a lot of users :P
[23:15] <sideup66> got it
[23:15] <glitsj16> sideup66: let me check here what permissions should be, give me a minute
[23:15] <sideup66> nevermind, i didnt use cat at first :/
[23:15] <glitsj16> sideup66: ah okay
[23:15] <WhatIsTheMatrix> cihhan_: you could try safe mode, then select the fsck option and see what happens with that
[23:15] <sideup66> ok it prints phy1 and phy4 at 0
[23:16] <ne0_> hi
[23:16] <glitsj16> sideup66: perhaps paste the whole output in a pastebin somewhere, like  paste.ubuntu.com and put the url you get in here
[23:16] <sideup66> ok, hang on
[23:17] <WhatIsTheMatrix> fpghost84: after the fglrx driver got installed, did you run the command to 'initialize' it? --> aticonfig --initial
[23:17] <sideup66> not much to see but... http://paste.ubuntu.com/6642455/
[23:17] <WhatIsTheMatrix> fpghost84: let me change that command -->  sudo aticonfig --initial
[23:17] <sideup66> there it is with the wifi working
[23:17] <glitsj16> sideup66: thx, having a look
[23:17] <WhatIsTheMatrix> fpghost84: then after doing that, you have to reboot
[23:19] <sideup66> and here is rfkill list
[23:19] <sideup66> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6642458/
[23:19] <sideup66> yes, the machine has a built in adapter as well, which I do keep the hardware switch on turned off (just an old g adapter)
[23:20] <fpghost84> WhatIsTheMatrix, I didn't run that command because as I say Ubuntu (or jockey) installed the fglrx driver itself on installing Ubuntu a few days ago. Do I still need to run that command? I thought it was just for when you install the Binary drivers directly from the AMD site?
[23:20] <glitsj16> sideup66: these look okay, the issue should show itself somehow on warm reboot, so if you could, paste those too, from both commands together, shouldn't be long outputs
[23:21] <fpghost84> Is it just to generate my xorg file? Can I check in that file if the relevant bits are already there?
[23:21] <WhatIsTheMatrix> fpghost84: yes, i'm pretty certain you will need to run that command. why they don't just have that command run as part of the installation script, also telling you that you'll need to reboot, i don't know
[23:21] <sideup66> ok, ill have to warm reboot at this point
[23:21] <sideup66> ill brb
[23:21] <glitsj16> okay
[23:22] <WhatIsTheMatrix> fpghost84: yes. it's to generate and ATI xorg file. it'll replace the one you have now
[23:22] <WhatIsTheMatrix> fpghost84: you could check it now
[23:23] <fpghost84> Just to double check before I do this: my xorg.conf already has some mentions of "ATI Proprietary Driver" etc
[23:23] <WhatIsTheMatrix> fpghost84: then i would tend to think you already have an ati xorg file
[23:23] <fpghost84> also fglxinfo gives info about my AMD Radeon
[23:23] <WhatIsTheMatrix> mine has the same line...
[23:24] <fpghost84> but as I say modinfo fglrx gives nothing
[23:24] <Azertyuiop> Greetings #ubuntu. I own a optimus nvidia card. I downloaded blumbleblee to be able to use my 650m. However, i still experiencing some very serious tearing effects on my screen. Anyone would have a hint about how to proceed to resolve the problem ? thanks !
[23:25] <fpghost84> I guess it couldn't hurt to run that line, and back up my curren xorg.conf, and see the diff
[23:25] <WhatIsTheMatrix> fpghost84: how about? --> glxinfo | grep rendering
[23:25] <fpghost84> "direct rendering Yes"
[23:25] <WhatIsTheMatrix> fpghost84: maybe you don't have OpenGL installed, the opengl libraries and utils
[23:25] <Azertyuiop> also optirun ./glxspheres64 will kind off crash
[23:27] <WhatIsTheMatrix> fpghost84: do you have this installed? --> mesa-common-dev
[23:28] <fpghost84> No, don't have that
[23:29] <V8Energy> rsync -r . root@xxx.xx.xx.xx:/var/chef       <-- how do i specify port number for this command?
[23:29] <WhatIsTheMatrix> and this --> you don't have opengl installed. install that as well as libglu1-mesa and libglu1-mesa-dev
[23:30] <sideup66> ok and I am back
[23:30] <sideup66> here is the output from a bad boot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6642509/
[23:30] <sideup66> for some reason the hard switch becomes set (?)
[23:30] <fpghost84> OK, installed mesa-common-dev, libglu1-mesa, and libglu1-mes-dev
[23:30] <fpghost84> How to check if opengl installed?
[23:30] <sideup66> could the internal adapter's switch have somthing to do with it?
[23:31] <WhatIsTheMatrix> fpghost84: i'm not certain that installing just those will completely install opengl, but it's a start if not
[23:31] <glitsj16> sideup66: seemingly yes, but it would help to see why it does that .. while you were rebooting i had a look on a few bugs, let me have a look at the pastes and get back to you
[23:32] <WhatIsTheMatrix> fpghost84: try the command --> glxinfo | grep rendering
[23:32] <fpghost84> yes tried, it was gave rendering Yes
[23:32] <WhatIsTheMatrix> fpghost84: does it say?  --> direct rendering: Yes
[23:33] <WhatIsTheMatrix> fpghost84: okay. you might have opengl installed then
[23:33] <u2Pf2n> whois u2Pf2n
[23:34] <glitsj16> sideup66: let me add, i'm not an expert on this, but first thing i see is different assignments of your wifi: phy0 and phy1versus phy0 and phy2 in the state file
[23:34] <sideup66> ok
[23:34] <glitsj16> sideup66: might be normal but looks odd
[23:34] <WhatIsTheMatrix> fpghost84: you mgith want to check that you have these installed as well... libgl1-mesa-dri libdri2-dev
[23:34] <sideup66> different assignments? I know like I said there is a internal card which my mind would want disabled... only the usb dongle should be connected
[23:35] <fpghost84> So what confuses me is why modinfo fglrx gives nothing, and why I get the error in x-0.log about "FATAL: Module fglrx not found."...yet why does lsmod list fglrx
[23:35] <fpghost84> WhatIsTheMatrix OK I didn't but have now
[23:36] <Guest54932> hi ,please how to install VMware player on linux '? bundle
[23:36] <glitsj16> sideup66: have you tried unblocking the device yet by running rfkill unblock phy1 and see if that changes anything?
[23:36] <WhatIsTheMatrix> fpghost84: okay. i'm not sure about your question about that command. i get output from..  modinfo fglrx
[23:37] <fpghost84> modinfo fglrx :ERROR: modinfo: could not find module fglrx
[23:37] <sideup66> no, I never was familiar with rfkill
[23:37] <ramborocks> im trying to give read / write command whats wrong with this : top:/media/Juggernaunt1# chmod -R +rw /dev/sdc1
[23:37] <fpghost84> is what I get. Yet "lsmod | grep fglrx" finds references
[23:37] <WhatIsTheMatrix> fpghost84: hmmm
[23:37] <glitsj16> sideup66: the inbuilt might be interfering, perhaps try 'blocking' it by rfkill block command instead of the hardware switch
[23:37] <ramborocks> i get this root@RamboDesktop:/media/Juggernaunt1# ls -l
[23:37] <ramborocks> total 0
[23:37] <sideup66> and I have to run at the moment, unfortunately :( but I will check into this after
[23:37] <sideup66> and will do
[23:38] <glitsj16> sideup66: if you post a question on the forum later i'll post the links and what i can make of it
[23:38] <sideup66> ok, ill probably be back in an hour or so anyway
[23:38] <sideup66> shouldnt be long
[23:38] <WhatIsTheMatrix> fpghost84: i don't know. what does   lspci | grep ATI   show?
[23:38] <sideup66> I do appreciate the help :)
[23:39] <glitsj16> ah okay, i'll probably be hanging around here, no trouble
[23:40] <WhatIsTheMatrix> fpghost84: what kind of ati card do you have?
[23:40] <fpghost84> lspci | grep ATI
[23:40] <fpghost84> 06:00.0 Display controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Sun XT [Radeon HD 8670A/8670M/8690M]
[23:40] <sybariten> sooo....
[23:40] <sideup66> ok ill be back
[23:40] <fpghost84> WhatIsTheMatrix it's a Radeon HD 8670M
[23:40] <sybariten> i'm having some apt-get problems on my virtual servier, that im renting.
[23:40] <Lunar_LanderB> hello, I moved to Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit :)!
[23:40] <WhatIsTheMatrix> fpghost84: that a really new card?
[23:41] <WhatIsTheMatrix> fpghost84: really new ati architecture? recently released card by ati?
[23:41] <fpghost84> Yes, quite I suppose, but the release notes on the AMD website (at least for the most recent catakyst driver) show support for it
[23:41] <sybariten> unfortunately im getting the error msgs in swedish... but it says something along tyhe lines of 404 .... whats my best way of analyzing and solving?
[23:42] <Lunar_LanderB> question: shall I reformat my second harddrive from ext3 to ext4 now that I use x64?
[23:42] <sybariten> 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.200 80]
[23:42] <h0rrorvacui> I'm writing a job configuration for upstart that executes a shell script that then launches a tmux session. I need to be able to stop the script in a certain way but I don't know what to do. Does anyone know what expect stanza if any I need to use?
[23:42] <sybariten> perhaps i need to edit my sources list somehow
[23:43] <tgm4883> h0rrorvacui, usually I just test it and see what PID upstart is reporting vs what PID you actually want to track. They should be the same
[23:43] <WhatIsTheMatrix> fpghost84: i hear you. it could be linux kernel issue with fglrx driver since the card is so new. but i don't know. you could keep asking and see if anyone knows about the 'modinfo fglrx' command issue
[23:43] <ramborocks> how come i get this error? root@RamboDesktop:/media/Juggernaunt1# chmod o+r /dev/sdc1
[23:43] <ramborocks> root@RamboDesktop:/media/Juggernaunt1# ls -l
[23:43] <ramborocks> total 0
[23:44] <michael__> Hello
[23:44] <WhatIsTheMatrix> hi
[23:44] <fpghost84> WhatIsTheMatrix, thanks. The second issue is that I see "FATAL: Module fglrx not found." in my /var/log/lightdm/x-0.log" not sure if it a problem or what
[23:44] <michael__> Where do I go to report bugs in ubuntu?
[23:44] <Teleport> hello, once I attached my usb drive I got auto-mount, but other times not
[23:44] <fpghost84> or if the two issues are related
[23:45] <Teleport> its a 8g mp3player NTFS
[23:45] <WhatIsTheMatrix> fpghost84: yeah. that seems weird too. have you looked at, not the lightdm log, but this one? --> /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:45] <michael__> @fpghost84 fglrx is the driver required for amd graphics cards
[23:46] <h0rrorvacui> tgm4883 I'll try and make sure again but I don't think its tracking the right PID.
[23:46] <tgm4883> h0rrorvacui, then it's probably tracking a PID that is a few before the actual PID right?
[23:47] <michael__> Where do I go to report bugs in ubuntu?
[23:47] <Teleport> hello, once I attached my usb drive I got auto-mount, but other times not, its a 8g mp3player NTFS
[23:47] <Rory> !bugs | michael__
[23:47] <michael__> ok, thank you
[23:48] <mrpanda> :)
[23:48] <h0rrorvacui> tgm4883, I'll check
[23:48] <fpghost84> WhatIsTheMatrix: Doesn't seem to be any strange mentions of fglrx there, just says that it is loading it. One slightly oddline afterwards is " Falling back to old probe method for fglrx"
[23:49] <WhatIsTheMatrix> fpghost84: i get that same message about falling back to old probe method. i guess i'd ignore the message in the lightdm log
[23:49] <michael__> ubuntu-bug wants to know the package name, but it is a problem with ubuntu itself
[23:49] <mrpanda> :)
[23:49] <mrpanda> the matrixis Wu
[23:50] <WhatIsTheMatrix> is what?
[23:50] <WhatIsTheMatrix> Wu? hehe
[23:50] <Teleport> he
[23:50] <Teleport> guys anyone knows about NTFS flash drives??!
[23:50] <tab1293> what's a good xml viewer that supports large files, hierarchical views and sorting based on tag value?
[23:50] <WhatIsTheMatrix> is Wu chinese for You?
[23:51] <michael__> @Teleport, can you be more specific?
[23:51] <Teleport> michael__, once I attached my usb drive I got auto-mount, but other times not, its a 8g mp3player NTFS
[23:51] <uBUXUBu> flash drives can be formatted to ntfs yes
[23:52] <uBUXUBu> better off using fat
[23:52] <Teleport> uBUXUBu got data atm
[23:52] <michael__> if it does not show in unity, try the command lsusb and see if it shows
[23:52] <WhatIsTheMatrix> fpghost84: since you have OpenGL installed now, you might try to see if opengl stuff works. you'll might need to restart x-windows first
[23:52] <fpghost84> WhatIsTheMatrix: I found a thread about the modinfo thing: http://xmodulo.com/2013/09/how-to-check-graphics-card-on-linux.html, in the comments some says you can't type modinfo fglrx_pci, bother open source and proprietary require "modinfo radeon"
[23:52] <h0rrorvacui> okay the problem is it isn't tracking anything it is running like a task instead of a service job so I'm just not getting this.
[23:52] <ROPA> I have an ubuntu (gnome 3) 13.10 installation with 2 different sound cards, one sound card drives speakers and one drives headphones. I can't figure out how to direct audio that is application specific however.....I want video games and internet phone calls to use the headphones sound system and IRC chat and browser programs to use the speakers. What sound utility program do I need to use so I can custom configure each programs audio
[23:52] <ROPA>  output to use a specific sound card???
[23:53] <fpghost84> WhatIsTheMatrix what kind of openGL stuff to test?
[23:53] <h0rrorvacui> I need a way to track a tmux session like it was a service with upstart.
[23:54] <h0rrorvacui> Could I do a job that just ends the tmux jobs gracefully on a shutdown?
[23:54] <WhatIsTheMatrix> fpghost84: i think the "modinfo radeon" would be for if you're using the open source radeon driver
[23:54] <fpghost84> well, the comment says either
[23:54] <WhatIsTheMatrix> fpghost84: have you restarted X?
[23:55] <WhatIsTheMatrix> fpghost84: okay, roger that
[23:55] <Teleport> michael__ I dont find that but I can see datas as th usb flash drive has a led
[23:55] <fpghost84> WhatIsTheMatrix: not yet, I'll go restart now, what openGL tests then?
[23:56] <WhatIsTheMatrix> fpghost84: xscreensaver has some opengl stuff. i think maybe you can try.. glxgears too.
[23:56] <Teleport> michael__ any solution?
[23:56] <michael__> @Teleport, is this an actual flash drive or an embedded drive in a different device, such  as a phone?
[23:56] <fpghost84> Ah, I've already tried glxgears and flgrxgears, and use xscreensaver , so guess that tells me I had openGL already :\
[23:57] <Teleport> michael__ NTFS mp3player
[23:57] <fpghost84> sorry, I should have realised
[23:57] <michael__> @Teleport, it could be a driver issue then
[23:57] <WhatIsTheMatrix> fpghost84: okay. if a "compositing" window manager works and/or opengl screensavers, then i think your good
[23:58] <WhatIsTheMatrix> fpghost84: don't know what to make of the modinfo fglrx issue though
[23:58] <Teleport> michael__ at the first attach ubuntu auto-mounted!
[23:58] <fpghost84> WhatIsTheMatrix: OK. Should I file a bug to the AMD Bugzilla or something?
[23:58] <Teleport> michael__ after restart I cant mount it anymore
[23:59] <michael__> @Teleport did you eject it by right clicking and pressing eject or just pull it out?
[23:59] <Teleport> michael__ just restarted
[23:59] <michael__> And it works on windows?
[23:59] <Teleport> michael__ without eject
[23:59] <fpghost84> WhatIsTheMatrix: or maybe I should try the aticonfig --initial for the hell of it anyway
[23:59] <Teleport> michael__ dont have win atm :S
[23:59] <WhatIsTheMatrix> fpghost84: i don't know for certain. perhaps. or, is it an issue with the linux kernel/modinfo?
[23:59] <michael__> Restarting should have synced any filesystems anyway