[16:32] <mattgriffin1> marcoceppi: ping
[16:33] <marcoceppi> mattgriffin: pong
[16:35] <mattgriffin> hi marcoceppi. i found a bad link at https://jujucharms.com/precise/mysql-31/#bws-features (well all "Features" pages). which project should I use to file the bug?
[16:35] <mattgriffin> juju-gui?
[16:35] <marcoceppi> mattgriffin: yes, that's juju-gui
[16:35] <mattgriffin> marcoceppi: thanks!
[16:38] <rick_h_> mattgriffin: you mean the docs link on that features page?
[16:39] <mattgriffin> rick_h_: aye. pad.lv/1264546
[16:39] <rick_h_> mattgriffin: cool, updated #1257878 which is really what this is about
[16:39] <_mup_> Bug #1257878: Revise charm feature bullets <charmworld:Fix Committed by bac> <juju-gui:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1257878>
[16:40] <rick_h_> mattgriffin: thanks for the catch.
[16:40] <mattgriffin> rick_h_: np
[18:38] <manjiri> hello! Is there a document that describes how to make changes to a charm and try them out (without destroying anything) ?
[18:48] <rick_h_> manjiri: https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/authors-charm-store.html walks through some of the teminology and has a section for submitting a fix which would be close to what you mean
[18:51] <manjiri> thanks for the response. I have a local env in which I am trying make small changes to the sample charm (vanilla) as a learning exercise. E.g. what is a "peer" relation.
[18:52] <rick_h_> manjiri: a peer relation is between units of a service. You can read some notes in http://blog.labix.org/2013/06/25/the-heart-of-juju
[18:53] <manjiri> rick_h: this is my first time using IRC. Please pardon errors in IRC usage.
[18:53] <rick_h_> manjiri: fine here :)
[18:55] <manjiri> rick_h: If I make a change to metadata.yaml, what is the next step that will allow me to see what that change does? upgrade-charm?
[18:56] <rick_h_> manjiri: I've always just destroyed the deployed one and redeploy with --upgrade flag to skip the cache and pick up the changes
[18:59] <manjiri> rick_h: destroy-service followed by deploy --upgrade? Is there a cheatsheet that talks about this kinds of things? A juju developers jumpstart guide?
[19:02] <rick_h_> manjiri: hmm, looking around at the docs and looks like this is a weak point in the iterative approach. https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/authors-charm-writing.html gets you started and walks through destroy https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/charms-destroy.html
[19:02] <rick_h_> the --upgrade on the next deploy is a thing I picked up because of hitting the local cache issue
[19:04] <manjiri> rick_h: thanks for the information. i wanted to make sure that I am not wasting time with try-this-try-that when I could have been referring to a doc. Trial-n-error is not a bad way to learn something. Just slower, at times. Thanks for your help.
[19:11] <rick_h_> manjiri: np, it's a little slow around here due to the holidays, but be patient and we're happy to help with things