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fpghost84WhatIsTheMatrix: who knows00:00
Teleportmichael__ I did 3-4 times00:00
michael__Can I have the model number so I can look up it's specs please Teleport?00:00
WhatIsTheMatrixfpghost84: you  can always do the 'sudo aticonfig --initial'  it'll just make a new file and a backup copy of your current one.00:00
Teleportmichael__ I can see the live data with the led btw so its not dead00:00
Teleportmichael__ sec00:00
fpghost84WhatIsTheMatrix: OK, I'll give that a blast00:00
fpghost84thanks for the help00:00
Teleportmichael__ iRiver T800:01
WhatIsTheMatrixfpghost84: you're welcome. good luck!00:01
sybaritenso...  where should i look for apt-get-update-problems? it seems as if its trying to get this:   http://archive.ubuntu.com maverick/main i386 Packages00:02
michael__Can you give me the exact model number?  They have different models00:02
michael__I have to go, I will be back in a few minutes00:03
Teleportmichael__ its 4g00:03
glitsj16sybariten: if you are using the maverick repos it's no surprise that 404's, maverick has been eol quite a while now..00:03
sybaritenglitsj16: hm, ok, any suggestions what i should do?00:04
glitsj16sybariten: are you actually using maverick ?00:04
Bashing-om sybariten; maverick has reached End Of Life, and that repository is no longer in existence. Edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file and remove that "fetch".00:04
sybaritenglitsj16: i am unsure.00:05
sybaritenany decent way of checking? I should see it when i ssh in to the machien shouldnt i00:05
glitsj16sybariten: what's the output of 'cat /etc/issue' ?00:05
sybariten10.l1000:05
sybariten10.1000:05
glitsj16sybariten: that confirms it yes, so i'd suggest upgrading your system to a more recent and supported ubuntu00:06
Teleportonce I attached my usb drive I got auto-mount, but other times not, its a 4g iRiver T8 mp3player NTFS00:06
Teleportanyone?00:06
sybaritenglitsj16: and what about Bashing-om's suggestion, is that a short-term soultion?00:07
glitsj16sybariten: anyone who still rents out virtual servers running maverick isn't exactly 'up to snuff' if you want my opinion00:07
michael__I am back00:07
WhatIsTheMatrixwb00:08
Teleportmichael__ iRiver T8 4G00:08
michael__@Teleport Are you still here/do you still need help?00:08
sybaritenthis is a cirtual machine, i am unsure how OS updates works there... i am renting the machine. "they" installed the ubuntu verison originally00:08
uBUXUBuiive heard the altough buntu does read ntfs they sometimes dont play well together00:08
sybaritenglitsj16: its the cheapest solution in europe i think00:08
xanguabashing00:08
Teleportmichael__ ofc00:08
glitsj16sybariten: in my opinion no, but Bashing-om might have other arguments00:09
michael__Ok, the specs are japanese, not gonna try reading that00:09
Bashing-om sybariten; As you are running 10.10 .. there is no short term solution. as advised. best fastest thing is a clean install of a supported version.00:09
Teleportmichael__ what happens if you take it out without an eject00:09
michael__Teleport, can you give me a pastebin of lsusb with it plugged in, and without?00:09
glitsj16sybariten: i'd contact your sysadmin asap00:09
Teleportmichael__ cause data works00:09
Teleportmichael__ asap00:09
ramborockshow di see channels i favorited in the past00:09
michael__@Teleport, ejecting syncs the caches with the filesystem to ensure everything is written to the disk00:10
michael__When you shut down, it will do that anyway00:10
sybaritenglitsj16: hm.00:10
sybaritenand all of this, because i wanted to install the package "pdftk"00:10
michael__Teleport, can you give me a pastebin of lsusb with it plugged in, and without?00:10
Teleportmichael__ http://paste.ubuntu.com/6642695/00:10
glitsj16sybariten: whether critical or otherwise, the OS has no longer any security/update capability00:10
michael__is this with or without?00:11
Teleportmichael__ its plugged in already00:11
sybaritenglitsj16: i understand the problematics, im just trying to think of how to solve it00:11
michael__ok, take it out and give another pastebin please00:11
Teleportmichael__ maybe the usb drive in a wrong phase00:11
glitsj16sybariten: i don't think you have much options if the renting service doesn't upgrade your virtual server00:12
Teleportmichael__ http://paste.ubuntu.com/6642700/00:12
ramborockshow do i see my favorites in xchat00:12
michael__These are identical00:12
michael__You tried restarting the computer?00:13
michael__Did you try restarting the device itself?00:13
Teleportmichael__ yes00:13
sybaritenglitsj16: i dont know how these things typically work. Does a dist-upgrade require physical access to the machine? Even if no, do i risk ending up in a loop where ive fucked up the boot, or something ?00:13
Teleportmichael__ doing00:13
glitsj16sybariten: i realize you're looking ointo a (temp) fix, but as you probably cannot take an upgrade action by yourself it's either rent somewhere else or contact them00:13
michael__which question is that yes for?00:13
Teleportmichael__ 2nd00:14
Teleportmichael__ nothin again00:14
Bashing-om sybariten; There is a means to update online, but it is not at allrecommended, too much has changed from version 10.10 to even the current LTS 12.04  to even give it serious consideration; Mabe as a means of last resort. The Recommnded path is to burn a DVD from the .iso image and do a clean install.00:14
michael__Apologies, my internet just went out00:15
sybaritenBashing-om: hm, interesting. I see.00:15
michael__@Teleport, did you try restarting the device itself?00:15
Teleportmichael__ 2nd00:15
Teleportmichael__ nothin again00:15
sybaritenOK i'll see what they say on the site00:15
glitsj16sybariten: no physical access rquired no, but you would have to make several painfull and potentially buggy jumps to get from 10.10 over 11.04 over 11.10 to a stable 12.04 ..00:15
Teleportmichael__ ive tried both restarting pc and the device00:15
Teleportmichael__ still nothing00:15
michael__Is it listed in lsblk?00:16
Teleportmichael__ 2 device atm00:16
Teleportmichael__ one sda1 with no name00:16
vfwsybariten: I concur, fresh install is your best bet.  If you have files you want to save, back them up and restore afterwards.00:16
michael__What are the sizes?00:17
Teleportmichael__ one hard drive with label00:17
Teleportmichael__ both 1TB00:17
Teleportmichael__ main hard + external hard00:17
michael__Ok, neither of those are your 4GB drive then00:17
michael__Are you trying to open it on the same computer that it worked on earlier?00:18
ewookdoes dmesg register that you inserted anything?00:18
Teleportewook @ me?00:18
sybaritenvfw: its a rented virtual machine so i'm guessing i cant do a fresh install just like that, but i'll contact the people in charge....00:18
ewookTeleport: yes, sorry.00:18
michael__Do what ewook said00:18
Teleportmichael__ not atm00:18
sybariten(even if im root)00:18
Teleportewook asap00:18
michael__I didn't think of checking logs, silly me00:18
Teleportewook want pastebin?00:19
vfwsybariten: I see.  Well that is a horse of a different color.  :)00:19
ewookTeleport: shoot00:19
Teleportewook wtf = log cant paste00:19
DEtho i run my cpu on linux pepperment since no ones in that chat room would some one help me00:20
ewookTeleport: use right-click copy and right-click paste.00:20
Teleportewook http://paste.ubuntu.com/6642727/00:20
Teleportcheck00:20
ramborocksi cant get my drive to give me permissions to change it00:20
ramborocksim trying to give 'others' read permission00:20
Teleportewook I meant its too many00:20
glitsj16sybariten: and follow vfw's very good advice to get a backup00:20
Bashing-om sybariten; Yeah, rented machine .. it is thier resposibility to provide a secure system .. 10.10 no longer enjoys that ! The latest version (short term) is 13.10 .. the next Long Term Support is due out next April as version 14.04.00:21
vfwramborocks: Read access to ____________________ ?00:21
ramborocksits a external drive im trying to get to be read over the network00:21
ewookTeleport: what drive am I looking for?00:21
Teleportmichael__ brb on another pc (trying to wake that up :p)00:21
ramborocksspecifically plex00:21
vfwramborocks: Have you determined if it is a hardware or software issue?00:21
Teleportewook iRiver T8 4G00:22
vfwramborocks: mount | pastebinit #We will look and see.00:22
ramborocksim pretty sure its a hardware issue. Because was reading up and tried doing the chmod and giving o+r access00:22
ramborocksim quite new but im totally stumped00:22
vfwramborocks: What kind of Hard Drive is it?00:22
ewookTeleport: sorry mate, can't really find it there.00:22
ldiamondI am trying to share a directory which resides in my home directory with other users. What's the simplest way? (I tried to setup a ldiamond-shared group and add everyone I want to share with to the group but they can't access it still)00:23
ewookTeleport: I see a passport-drive, and that is about it.00:23
ramborocksexternal western digital . its formated in ntfs00:23
vfwramborocks: I did not ask the brand, but the type.00:23
ewookldiamond: what protocol?00:23
vfwramborocks: Is this a desktop or laptop or... _____________?00:23
ramborocksdesktop00:23
ldiamondewook, local users00:24
Teleportramborocks and ewook thats a external drive works fine on usb 3 but the usb flash drive doesnt00:24
vfwramborocks: And is it a conventional hard drive?  (Not ssd?_00:24
ldiamondI'll mount using sshfs probably00:24
ewookldiamond: ? you are sharing with local users, why don't you simply change the permissions instead?00:24
constlHello, I'm trying to install Glances according to http://askubuntu.com/questions/293426/system-monitoring-tools-for-ubuntu but i get some errors. I've tried git cloning and building from source and also download pre-compiled binaries from the author's PPA but with no luck. Any help appreciated!00:24
vfwramborocks:  If you will share with us the output of mount, we might be able to give you specific advise.00:25
michael__Ewook00:25
ldiamondewook, even if I change the permission, doesn't work00:25
michael__On teleport's pastebin, line 245 does not correspond to any known manufacturer00:25
ldiamondsuppose I make ~/shared, chmod o+r ~/shared00:25
ldiamondsudo su - otheruser00:25
ldiamondcd /home/ldiamond/shared00:25
ldiamonddenied.00:25
ewookmichael__: yes?00:26
michael__On teleport's pastebin, line 245 does not correspond to any known manufacturer00:26
ramborocksim not sure what is junk and whats not .. http://pastebin.com/saANubSx00:26
michael__At least when I look up the vendor id00:26
ramborocksim trying to get Juggernaunt1 to be read00:26
ewookldiamond: do it easy then - create a symlink to a dir at a lower level after changing the permissions.00:26
vfwramborocks: Is it sdb1 or sdc1 ?00:27
ramborockssdc100:27
vfwramborocks: So, the mount point is /media/chad/Juggernaunt1  Right?00:27
EromejHello, how to fix the cryptswap mount error message on boot ? I used this fix http://askubuntu.com/questions/341979/what-to-do-about-the-disk-drive-for-dev-mapper-cryptswap1-is-not-ready-yet-or but didn't work00:27
ewookmichael__: oh, well.. that registers as a joystick.00:28
Teleportmichael__ ssl00:28
ewookmichael__: dev id matches a few lines down.00:28
vfwramborocks: It appears to be mounted rw00:28
Teleportmichael__ sorry I was on another pc00:28
michael__Teleport, do you happen to have a USB joystick plugged in?00:28
Teleportmichael__ gotta check on win00:28
ldiamondewook, still not working00:29
Teleportmichael__ no joystick here, 2 MIDI Keyboards00:29
ewookah.00:29
ramborocksit wont let me change permissions though00:29
ewookTeleport: that would be a "joystick" then :p.00:29
michael__That's probably it then00:29
vfwramborocks: touch /media/chad/Juggernaunt1/test-file ; ls /media/chad/Juggernaunt1/test-file   #For a test00:29
Eromej(Gparted still displays my swap partition as "unknown" despite me formatting twice already)00:29
ewookldiamond: odd. how are your users trying to access the area?00:29
vfwramborocks: ... or see what error you get.00:29
ldiamondjust cd to it00:29
michael__Ewook, it registered a keyboard on line 23600:29
ewookmichael__: yepp.00:30
michael__and 25200:30
ewookTeleport: erhm... might I ask you to perhaps unplug a couple of devs from usb and stuff, and replugging the usb drive?00:30
ramborockschad@RamboDesktop:~$00:31
ramborocksopps00:31
Teleportewook  yes two joystick "i play super mac mac :P"00:31
ramborocksit didnt give an error00:31
Teleportewook asap sir00:31
sybaritenanybody care to split me up a pdf file? You will need to do some steps, like ULing to a site or archiving etc00:31
sybaritenand wgetting00:31
fragmerHello! I run 12.04 LTS, and I need a newer version of a package ('subversion' 1.7+). These new versions are only be available via apt-get for quantal/raring/saucy. What's the best way to install one of those newer packages (e.g. http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/subversion ) on my 12.04 system? And is that a good idea at all?00:32
vfwramborocks: Then it would appear that you are indeed able to write to the drive.00:33
michael__@fragmer, you can build from source00:33
ramborocksthats whats weird is it wont let me read it on my plex server00:33
john_doe_jrWhat does the 'bs' and 'count' command mean in the following command: "dd if=/dev/zero of=/test.file bs=4M count=1000"00:33
ewookfragmer: depending on the dependencies.. ouchie..00:33
john_doe_jr?00:33
ramborocksand it wont let me change the permissions00:33
sideup66hello room00:33
sideup66im back00:34
ewookjohn_doe_jr: bs = bit size, count urr...00:34
vfwramborocks: YOu do not change permissions to ntfs file systems.00:34
sideup66glitsj16: are you still around00:34
anonymous_Hello everyone00:34
Teleportewook found wtf?00:34
sideup66I did some playing around with the commands you mentioned and it appears to me that the devices are indeed interferring00:34
john_doe_jrewook: what does bit size mean though?  and count?00:34
glitsj16sideup66: you forgot the verb 'hanging' lol, which is correct :)00:34
ewookjohn_doe_jr: bit size is how lage bits to copy each round, count should be how many times it should do it.00:35
ewookTeleport: aha. Overloading your USB south bridge :P00:35
SaberX01!backports | fragmer00:35
ubottufragmer: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging00:35
Teleportewook why its workin now?00:35
glitsj16sideup66: no change in the wifi issue i assume ? or did you try something?00:35
Teleportewook LOL00:35
Teleportty00:35
ramborocksohhh you dont?00:35
ewookTeleport: get a powered usb hub!00:35
vfwramborocks: ... that is, if you are on a Linux system ....  You understand how this works?  It IS an ntfs file system.  Right?00:35
sideup66lol, my mistake glitsj, I appreciate your help so far, when I tried to disable the device 1, the usb device would indeed go down00:35
ramborockswhat can i do to change that00:35
Teleportewook :( me no money00:35
Teleport;))00:35
ramborocksyes im sure of that being a ntfs00:35
john_doe_jrewook: how large bits to copy each round? …each round of what?00:35
sideup66device 2 would also take down the internal one00:35
fragmerSaberX01: Yes thank you, I have checked precise-backports, but the package I need is not on the list.00:36
vfwramborocks: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc |pastebinit00:36
fragmermichael__: Should I uninstall the current version of the package (obtained via apt-get) before building one from source? Or will the newly-built one just overwrite the old one?00:36
sideup66if I turn off device 2, it shuts off the usb one only00:36
sideup66therefore, I need to I guess find a way to disable the internal adapter entirely00:36
Teleportewook changed 1 usb hub00:36
Teleportewook should work00:36
ramborockshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6642785/00:36
SaberX01fragmer, then maybe compile from source and use checkinstall to manage it until 1.7+ is on the repos.00:36
michael__fragmer, set the prefix to /usr/local when installing00:36
Teleportmichael__ solved!00:37
michael__So I see Teleport00:37
ewookjohn_doe_jr: each copy-cycle. I'm not sure I can explain it better, I might even be confusing the answer :p.00:37
TeleportMAY soooth breadge00:37
michael__teleport, What exactly did you do, plug it into a different slot?00:37
Teleportmichael__ unplugged all then diff slot00:38
Teleportbut the flash drive is in the old slot00:38
Teleportso all work together00:38
michael__It may have been wise to try that before opening irc.00:38
sideup66that is where I stand00:38
ewookmichael__: lol. no, not really. since one cannot really know how the usb is powered.00:38
sideup66would that be a fair course of action then or should I disable the one device and reboot00:39
glitsj16sideup66: that makes sense yes, i mean about what you must try to achive, no clue on why it is doing that .. you have 2 options i can help in, but the channel is c-reading, anyone might chime in with something better .. here goes .. 1) don't hardblock anything with the hardware switch and try software blocking the internal one via rfkill .. or .. 2) try blacklisting the driver of the internal one, which would have the same effect00:39
sideup66see where things stand00:39
vfwramborocks: Yep, it is indeed NTFS  It says ID 7  NTFS00:39
ewookjohn_doe_jr: I would like to recommend the wikipedia page on dd, it's is quite a good read!00:39
Teleportewook why it happens, i'm not using a poor pc00:39
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sideup66ok, sounds good, let me see what happens soft disabling the internal and rebooting, its a strange issue it is having, most hardware Ive dealt with in linux just worked without anything done00:39
ramborocksis there any way i can get this to work Id like to share this whole drive.00:39
vfwramborocks: NTFS does not have file permissions like we have on our native Linux file systems.00:40
ewookTeleport: my point exactly. It's all about how the manufacturer chooses to interconnect stuff in your pc.00:40
ramborocksand.. tip for next time dont format into ntfs00:40
sideup66I should also actually see if the bios has some disable from it, thus disabling the internal adapter altogether00:40
ewookTeleport: Some do it right, and have a stable current to all ports, meaning you can plugg stuff in like crazy.00:40
vfwramborocks: Well, sure you can share the whole drive.00:40
michael__@rambor, it likely already was ntfs00:40
Teleportewook case's power sux?00:40
ramborocksi wouldnt mind sharing the whole drive00:40
ewookTeleport: yeah. sadly, that's the short answer....00:40
glitsj16sideup66: while you were afk here i found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rfkill/+bug/588366, which also might be usefull to take a look at, it proposes other possible fixes00:40
ubottuUbuntu bug 588366 in rfkill (Ubuntu) "Wireless switch position not properly detected" [Undecided,Confirmed]00:40
vfwramborocks: What do you want to share it with?00:40
ramborocksprefur it00:40
ramborocksid like to share with everyone00:41
Teleportewook true cause it takes a lot of power damnit00:41
vfwramborocks: Including me?00:41
sideup66ok, thanks glitsj! been a great help :)00:41
glitsj16sideup66: bios disabling would be usefull too yes00:41
ramborocksits my media drive that i'll use on my smart tv / plex server00:41
Teleportewook core i7 with 16g ram00:41
ewookTeleport: just for fun - check your dmesg for yourself - and try to identify the lines where you plugged in the drive :)00:41
Teleportand power sux!00:41
ewookTeleport: well, it's your motherboard mate ;)00:41
ramborockslol ok i see what you mean. . yeah just basicly those on my network00:41
Teleportewook brb for mainbord spec00:41
sideup66I think it saw both and somehow tied them together00:41
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sideup66ok brb, going to disable the one and reboot00:41
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glitsj16sideup66: hope one of the options gets you out of trouble, very welcome00:42
vfwramborocks: Just joking.  But what you probably want to do is set it to a static mount point first, and then choose how you want to share it, (nfs or samba), and then configure as needed.00:42
vfwramborocks: You can use both if you want, (nfs and samba), but you really only need samba if you are sharing with other MS Windows PCs on your LAN.00:43
michael__I actually have a minor irritation with my fstab someone might be able to help me with00:43
ramborocksok00:43
glitsj16sideup66: exactly, there are quite a few bug reports refering to similar situations, but i took the liberty of only linking that one because it seemed closest to what you are experiencing00:43
ramborockssamba it is00:43
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vfwramborocks: So the first thing you'd do is create a mount point and then  get the blkid and create an entry in the /etc/fstab file, then remount it, and then do your nfs or samba configs.00:44
michael__what options should I use in fstab so that root is not required for mounting the entry, and it does not wait on the device at boot?00:44
ramborocksare you going to walk me through that? or google and come back?00:44
Teleportewook how to obtain mainboard spec via terminal?00:45
ewookTeleport: lshw00:45
Teleportlshw00:45
Teleportok00:45
ewookTeleport: sudo lshw00:45
ewookTeleport:  ;)00:45
Teleportewook ofc not that noob00:45
Teleport:))00:45
ewookTeleport: Never said you were ;)00:45
ewookTeleport: but it's easier to be clear in this channel, some miss that part easily ;)00:46
sideup66ok im back again glitsj16, the bizzare happened00:46
vfwramborocks:  ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid00:46
michael__Teleport, I think a good command for practice right now would be ls /*bin/ls*00:46
sideup66I disabled the one adapter via software which turned both off00:46
vfwramborocks:  ^^^^^ will tell you the blkid00:46
sideup66upon reboot both turned on ???real strange00:46
vfwramborocks:  What is on the drive?00:47
glitsj16sideup66: heh, complexities do happen00:47
michael__And then run each with --help00:47
sideup66I guess next step is to find its driver and just flat out disable lol00:47
glitsj16sideup66: that's definately worth a shot00:47
Teleportewook but noob at hw :p http://paste.ubuntu.com/6642824/00:47
vfwramborocks: (How would you want the mount point to appear?) (What name would you want it to be?)00:47
ramborocksi dont see it im looking for sdc1 still right00:47
vfwramborocks: Yep00:48
ramborocksid like Juggernaunt00:48
sideup66yes, my logic is linux is somehow confusing the driver with the hard enable/disable switch and trying to control the usb one with that switch, which is made for the internal00:48
sideup66so turning one off is killing both00:48
vfwramborocks: sudo blkid00:48
ramborockshttp://pastebin.com/iHma0VrF00:48
ramborocksoh ok00:49
glitsj16sideup66: makes (weird) sense indeed, i hope you can find the internal's driver and blacklist it00:49
vfwramborocks: Actually, you don't have to preface it with sudo00:49
ewookTeleport: kk, nooo worries. I'm just a old hardware junkie ;). Sadly - to figure out the more exact load you can put on each port / controller - a more in depth scematic would be needed...00:49
ewookTeleport: either way - it is a good idea not to power to much over usb - that's even more clear on laptops.00:49
sideup66glits: yeah, the wifi in linux is very hodge-podge in my opinion with a few generic drivers powering many devices00:49
ramborockshttp://pastebin.com/kYTndkVB00:49
sideup66fortunately it shows an artheros device00:49
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Teleportewook is there any lshw option for only mainboard model?00:50
ramborocksdid you wanna go to pm?00:50
Teleportewook im asking you cause want to know if my power sux or not00:50
ramborockstrying to follow you and all the other chat throwing me off00:50
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Teleportewook for the whole pc I meant not only the usbs00:50
vfwramborocks: So the blkid for /dev/sdc1 is 12C23AD8C23AC03100:51
glitsj16sideup66: i happen to agree, seen that here before00:51
glitsj16sideup66: i assume you know your way around blacklisting, if not we can help out00:52
DeSianhi00:52
sideup66im trying to find the almighty google to ask about that right now :)00:52
julioMy Wine version (1.6 and all the other either) is running so slowly on Ubuntu 12.04; how ever when I tried Ubuntu 11.10 and 12.10 all the Wine versions works perfect... so what can I do to fix it on Ubuntu 12.04?00:52
ramborocksok00:52
vfwramborocks: Have you created a mount point yet?  (I always just put it in my /home/vfw/)  Like  mkdir /home/vfw/Movies  or  mkdir /home/vfw/MP3s00:52
sideup66hm this is weird now oO now xchat is running fine, but nothing else connects00:53
DeSianwhy if use other keyboard layout like Kurdish, can't use the Keyboard shortcuts any more?00:53
sideup66this is fun :D00:53
ramborocksno ill do that now00:53
ramborocksjust like you just said00:53
glitsj16:) either add the driver name to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf or add a new file to that dir (make sure the name ends in .conf) just a one-liner in the second case with the correct name for the driver00:53
ramborockseh i cant figure out how to make a mount point00:53
ramborocksim really new...00:54
sideup66i see and ok00:54
glitsj16sideup66: one mixed-up wifi you have lol00:54
ramborockscd mkdir?00:54
sideup66I believe i can find it with a modprobe command, and yeah, i think the pc is confused because both cards connected and grabbed their own ips00:54
sideup66this is one confused system00:54
VlanXsomeone else having problems resolving the repository: http://packages.medibuntu.org/dists/quantal  ?00:55
glitsj16sideup66: you can try to load the internal one only so you can use the lsmod command to see what driver it loads to get at the name for blacklisting00:55
sideup66good call00:55
sideup66and thanks i couldnt remember what to enter there00:56
glitsj16no trouble00:56
xanguaVlanX: medibuntu has been dead for almost a year I believe00:56
Bashing-om VlanX; medibuntu is no longer maintained, remove the source and all will be fine.00:56
SaberX01sideup66, the URL you posted does not resolve here either.00:56
VlanXhow do I remove all dead sources?00:57
sideup66which one? my pastebins?00:57
glitsj16sideup66: or do a 'lshw -html > ~/Downloads/my-confused-system.html and open that in your browser, should have the driver in use there as well00:57
SaberX01sideup66, http://packages.medibuntu.org/dists/quantal does not resolve00:57
WhatIsTheMatrixVlanX:  i tried that link in my web browser. after a bit it said problem loading page00:58
ramborocksi think i made a mount point00:58
WhatIsTheMatrixVlanX Server not found00:58
ramborocksi followed what you did but did home/chad/movies00:58
VlanXthis is alright, if it's no longer mantained..00:58
sideup66yeah, im stuck with a spinning wheel, think I need to reboot again00:58
sideup66brb again00:58
VlanXjust how do i remove the bad/old repos?00:58
glitsj16SaberX01: that's probably because medibuntu is officially 'dead'01:00
WhatIsTheMatrixVlanX: you could 'cd /etc/apt' and then make a backup copy of your sources.list file. then edit your sources.list file, as root01:00
Bashing-om VlanX; The easiest way is from "Software Sources" and "remove" the source.01:00
SaberX01VlanX, edit /etc/apt/sources.list  ...remove what you want ... then sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get clean, then do an update01:00
VlanXok thanks guys01:01
WhatIsTheMatrixgood luck01:01
VlanXbut should I not use quantal anymore?01:01
VlanXwhat is the most recent LTS now?01:01
VlanX13.10?01:01
xanguaVlanX: 12.04 is the latest LTS01:01
VlanXomg01:02
WhatIsTheMatrix14.04 will be LTS when it's released. i'm using it now as testing01:02
VlanXokay01:02
VlanXreally?01:02
VlanXhow is it?01:02
WhatIsTheMatrixyes01:02
ramborocksanyone able to help me edit the fstab with o the blkid for /dev/sdc1 is 12C23AD8C23AC03101:02
ramborocksim not sure what todo in there01:02
Bashing-om VlanX; When that source has been removed, remember to update and upgrade , this updates all the installed packages.01:02
WhatIsTheMatrixVlanX: so far so good. but it depends on what all you might do with it.01:03
VlanXdid they finally remove the amazon thing? :D01:03
WhatIsTheMatrixVlanX: i'm just a casual linux user01:03
WhatIsTheMatrixVlanX: no. but can't you tell it you don't want to be prompted about it again?01:04
VlanXWhatIsTheMatrix: yeah u can also uninstall that01:04
VlanXbut it's annoying anyways01:05
WhatIsTheMatrixVlanX: okay. roger that01:05
VlanXeven if i am an amazon user indeed01:05
WhatIsTheMatrixlol01:05
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VlanXbut i dont like the idea of someone enforcing this01:05
VlanXexpecially if linux is meant to be the other way around01:05
VlanXwell anyways01:05
bigbadbenI am trying to play around with my /etc/issue is there a way to see what it will look like when I log on01:06
gdi2kI am trying to install grub to a raid1 set up from a live CD. I have my raid1 mounted at /mnt/md1 and have chrooted into it. But if I do df it shows as /dev/md0. If I try to grub-install to /dev/md0 it says "no such file or directory". If I try with grub-install /dev/md1, I get "warning: File system `ext2' doesn't support embedding." This is ext4. Any ideas?01:07
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WhatIsTheMatrixVlanX: corporatism in linux.. bleh01:07
sideup66ok internet works again lol01:09
VlanXthis is weird guys, I'm not finding any *http://packages.medibuntu.org* on my /etc/apt/sources.list01:09
VlanXah ok /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list01:09
WhatIsTheMatrixahh, roger01:10
Bashing-omVLanX; you might have that listing in /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory.01:10
VlanXBashing-om: right01:10
sideup66ok ive found the internal card in lshw01:11
glitsj16sideup66: the Atheros one?01:11
sideup66what information am I specifically looking for from that device for the modprobe01:11
sideup66and yes01:11
SaberX01gdi2k, trying using the app called boot repair to install to your RD1 .. it's PPA.01:12
glitsj16sideup66: does it show a driver info in lshw output? that's what you need01:12
sideup66can i pastebin what I found?01:12
glitsj16sure01:12
gdi2kSaberX01, I would like to but I am remote via command line only :(01:12
sideup66http://paste.ubuntu.com/6642920/01:13
sideup66there you go, Im not sure exactly what Im looking for in that pool of output01:13
SaberX01gdi2k, Ah,, that not gonna help then :-/01:13
glitsj16sideup66: driver=ath5k, try that01:14
glitsj16line 13 of the paste01:14
sideup66glitsj16: put that in the whole disable bit01:14
sideup66I see that01:15
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glitsj16sideup66: perhaps do suso modprobe -r ath5k first to confirm and then, make it permanent through adding it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf01:15
glitsj16*sudo01:15
sideup66oh blacklist.conf looks very simple :)01:16
sideup66has some pre set entries and they make it simple to understand01:17
glitsj16indeed, if using the correct name that will take it out surely01:17
iluxsomeone vote for me > http://pt-br.polldaddy.com/poll/7673885/01:17
glitsj16but that will need another reboot, what does sudo modprobe -r ath5k give you?01:18
sideup66ok modprobe -r did turn off the card :)01:18
sideup66guess make it permanent and reboot01:19
glitsj16sideup66: sweet ..01:19
glitsj16give it a shot01:19
sideup66if it doesnt come back, i guess just remove the entry in the list and reboot again01:19
glitsj16correct01:20
sideup66ok fire in the hole....01:20
glitsj16:)01:20
whoeveruBUXUBu: what feature are you talkin' about01:23
uBUXUBufeature?01:23
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uBUXUBui looked abck in the text..not sure what you mean whoever01:24
sideup66hmm ok01:24
sideup66im back01:24
whoeveruBUXUBu: 19:21 < uBUXUBu:##windows> i dont personally need that feature...but techies want it01:24
glitsj16sideup66: how does the issue stand?01:25
sideup66and indeed the card stays on :), interesting note is that both cards are on, somehow it reloaded itself after a cold start01:25
sideup66the usb I mean01:25
sideup66it holds its connection01:25
glitsj16sideup66: okay01:25
uBUXUBuoh my bad i was in windows and they weer telling me off cuz i said msoft should have made it so ppl can boot from 2.0 or 3.0 usb01:26
sideup66being that daily use of this machine will be bot-like, and always on, I would assume that the connection will be good enough01:26
glitsj16sideup66: the internal is still on even after blacklisting?01:26
uBUXUBuand of course they were suddenly arguing on msoft behalf for no good reason no matter what they say it should be done that way01:27
sideup66hmm strange01:27
sideup66i entered modprobe -r for the device again but it complains that line 59 has an incorrect syntax01:28
docmurIs it possible to LVM existing disk partitions full of data?01:28
glitsj16sideup66: could you paste both /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and lsmod?01:28
tharkundocmur: What do you mean by " LVM existing disk partitions"01:29
sideup66glitsj16: i figured it out01:29
sideup66i used wrong syntax01:29
sideup66my mistake01:29
docmurI have 4 disk, 6 partitions amoung them and I want to have them show up as one large share01:29
glitsj16sideup66: okay, happens to everyone01:29
glitsj16i was holding my breath though :p01:30
sideup66hah, yeah I wrote 'disable' not blacklist01:30
sideup66oops01:30
glitsj16better take one of these anti-reboot-sickness pills and try again heh01:30
SachUsing ubuntu 12.04. How do I uinstall a .bin file that i recently installed?01:30
sideup66lol, now the command turned it off01:31
sideup66let me reboot again...01:31
tharkunsideup66: Reverse the method you used to install it. :)01:31
glitsj16:) points for tenacity01:31
tharkunSach: Reverse the method you used to install it. :)01:31
Sachtharkun: this is how I installed it: http://pastebin.com/x0Ef3Le6  What do I need to do?01:32
rXmnI need to build this command: export $var01:32
rXmnWhere $var is NAME=SOMETHING01:32
rXmnLooping trough a list of envvars i need to export again01:33
ehteshis there a way to gather windows from other screens/monitors/workspaces onto one screen?01:34
tharkunSach: Go to the website that instructed you to install it and follow the uninstall procedure. According to what you pasted you only need to remove (man rm) the file.01:35
SaberX01rXmn, may want to look here: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide   ... and here ... http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/01:35
SpynxicAnyone familiar with the share feature built into LibreOffice Calc? I can't seem to figure out how to establish a connection between clients01:35
SaberX01rXmn, and also ask in #bash01:35
Sachtharkun: how do I remove man rm?01:36
tharkunSpynxic: #libreoffice might be more usefull01:36
Spynxictharkun: I thought so too01:36
tharkunSach: on a shell write man rm and you will see the man page for the command rm It explains better the way it works01:37
rXmnSaberX01: Doing it with export $(sed...)=$(sed...) xD01:37
SaberX01rXmn, ok .. makes no difference, you simply exporting a variable and looping through a list of them, how you get $VAR doesn't really matter to the loop.01:38
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Blobhow do I install ubuntu using an external cd drive?01:41
SpynxicDoes anyone know how to establish a connection with another computer via telepathy?01:42
Sachtharkun: it tells me to run "rm -- FILENAME".  Doesnt work01:42
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allan1097Hello01:43
allan1097Hi01:43
BlobSpynxic, yes by the internet01:43
BuntuFuntuUgh, 1GB ram is stupid01:44
SpynxicBlob, That's as much as I can find about how to do it. Simply that it works over the internet but I haven't found the slightest documentation01:44
sideup66ok im back, glitsj16 thanks!01:44
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sideup66it worked :)01:44
BuntuFuntuI think it's time for me to buy a second RAM stick for this netbook01:44
BlobNice Spynxic nice01:45
glitsj16sideup66: very nice01:45
glitsj16:)01:45
BuntuFuntu2GB RAM01:45
allan1097I have a problem, Xubuntu and Lubuntu 13.04 and 13.10. When I start the Live CD from USB, at Start I receive a black screen,01:45
sideup66sorry for delay, i started x wrong and it freaked out for a few minutes while i had to go fight with it01:45
allan1097I'm from Lubuntu 12.04 LTS01:45
glitsj16sideup66: it sure is an eventfull night at the sideup66 residence .. no worries01:46
sideup66yeah xubuntu 12.04 seems to have a small hiccup01:46
glitsj16sideup66: this might make a nice bugreport too, but i would understand if you passed up on that tonight01:47
BlobMy external cd drive wont show up in the bios01:47
Blobhow do I get the bios to read it01:47
sideup66for some reason the x server when you disable its autostart gets a bit tempermental when this is done01:47
SaberX01!nomodeset | allan1097 - may help01:47
ubottuallan1097 - may help: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter01:47
daftykinsBlob: connected properly? with a good cable?01:47
Bashing-omallan1097: What graphics card ?, many times with ATI and Nvidia cards, the boot option "nomedeset" will get ya to where you can install the proper drivers.01:47
sideup66I have a home server on debian and it leaves x in memory at all times there-- just turns off the gdm service01:47
tharkunSach: FILENAME is the name of the file on the current directory or the /full/name/t/the/FILENAME If you are to run linux you will eventually have to learn to read and be able to learn new stuff by your self.01:47
glitsj16sideup66: indeed, well i hope your connection turns out to prove stable01:47
BlobYes daftykins01:48
allan1097Bashing-om: It is integrated graphics card, VIA/S3G Unichrome PRO IGP - 64MB01:48
sideup66it does, seems fine so far, just need to dial that in and actually want to track down one more issue concerning the system trying to address somthing in /sdb with write cache or somthing01:48
sideup66it seems to fail01:48
sideup66although only one hd exists01:48
daftykinsBlob: are you sure it's set to auto detect? known-good drive?01:49
Bashing-omallan1097; I may be mistaken, but Lubunti 12.04 has reached End Of Life (??) unlike (u)buntu.01:49
jmanPLEASE HELP:-( my wifi quit working on me. so it works great on all other devices. it connects and dissconnects and if it decides to work takes minutes to load a page and if it don't load it says can't find server. runnin ubuntu 12.0401:49
SpynxicBlob, How do you manage telepathy connections?01:49
sideup66btw, to note this machine only runs the desktop on command, I had originally loaded from an image used for a beige, both are dogecoin miners01:49
sideup66:)01:49
haoyihuanmy asus turns off while running ubuntu13.04 in 10 mins01:49
Blobdaftykins i do not know i will have to check01:49
BlobSpynxic no clue01:50
glitsj16sideup66: no shortage of issues, same here .. keeps us on those toes i guess, goodluck (also with the mining)01:50
sideup66haoyihuan, is it overheating01:50
allan1097Ohhhh I forgot01:50
sideup66glitsj16: thanks, doge isnt worth much but it seems to be growing, be nice to have it let me put a down payment on those college loans in a year or so ;)01:50
allan1097I believe Lubuntu 12.04 is LTS01:50
sideup66im going to the moon101:51
sideup66!01:51
haoyihuan<sideup66>  seems to be01:51
dimitrilcAMD/ATI/Intel. Which one do you guys recommend for a triple monitor display?01:51
glitsj16sideup66: i live in a country that doesn't use study loans system very much, i can fully understand01:51
FramzTharkun: Good job helping Sach.  That comment is really showing the spirit of "ubuntu" ...NOT.01:51
dimitrilcAMD/Nvidia/Intel*01:51
allan1097What I can do?01:52
sideup66glitsj16: I see, I wish I went to school in a European country, education seems to matter more there than in my own... ours just worries about the size of a wallet01:52
allan1097Iḿ using Right now.... Lubuntu 12.0401:52
tharkunFramz: A fact is a fact. Take it or leave it. Your choice.01:52
glitsj16sideup66: indeed, and with my 'succes rate' lol, i probably needed that moon to, mars even01:53
Bashing-omallan1097; worth a shot to see.. try: boot the liveDVD, at the purple splash scrren depress and hold the shift key -> language screen, esc key to acceot the default; -> boot options screen -> f6 key fot preset boot options, arrow down to "nomodeset" space to accept and key combo ctl+x to continue the boot process. advise if you get to a degraded GUI.01:53
sideup66glitsj16: true... and I think I found the problem on /sdb, looks like somthing wants to talk to the sd reader on here, nothing to read though...01:54
allan1097I tried01:54
sideup66sees it as a disk lol, prolly can just disable, for its purpose itll never be used01:54
allan1097But I can upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10. I activated the01:54
allan1097and the upgrade is availableç01:55
Bashing-omallan1097; You mean that you tried to boot with that "nomodeset" option, and it was no good ?01:55
glitsj16sideup66: can't say i have any experience with sd card readers, but the channel is still awake so put it out there. ehmm here01:55
allan1097Yes01:55
allan1097Answer this: If I upgrade to 12.10 this black screen will appear01:56
allan1097Please01:56
xmetal??01:57
tharkunallan1097: Do you have a backup of your information? If not this is a good time to do it. :)01:57
allan1097I do not mind the information01:57
allan1097but I have my Emergency System, I have Lubuntu 12.04 Live CD into my Pendrive01:58
Bashing-omallan1097; OK, there is a proceedure, d/l the .iso, check that .iso file with md5sum .. did you verify that file ? .. so that you know the file is good ? Next can you boot to the ubuntu try/install screen ?01:58
allan1097But I can upgrade from lubuntu Installed 12.0401:59
haoyihuanquit01:59
tharkunallan1097: 12.04 and 12.10 are within the same major version of ubuntu you should be safe if you run your usual program for udating and upgrading your system. There should be no major changes that might break up your system, unless you have a special video or something similar.01:59
SaberX01allan1097, another option, is doen load the server addition, install that, then after, add ubuntu-desktop or whatever desktop you like.02:00
SaberX01*is to download02:00
ROPA I have an ubuntu (gnome 3) 13.10 installation with 2 different sound cards, one sound card drives speakers and one drives headphones. I can't figure out how to direct audio that is application specific however.....I want video games and internet phone calls to use the headphones sound system and IRC chat and browser programs to use the speakers. What sound utility program do I need to use so I can custom configure each programs audi02:00
ROPAo output to sound card of my choice??02:00
tharkunIf your system is fubar beyond your hability or time to repair it. It is a good idea to download a new image verify it and start fresh :)02:00
Bashing-omallan1097; On the upgrade to 12.10 .. maybe  maybe not so maybe... all depends on what graphics card you have and what the drivers are .. and if you have installed proprietary drivers // and if you do a clean install.02:00
kostkonROPA, you need to install the PulseAudio Volume Control utility, its pacakge name is pavucontrol, to be able to do that02:01
xmetalas much of a pain as what Thark said can be sometimes ... i agree02:01
allan1097The other question: If I upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10, when I stay in 12.10 . Can I upgrade to 13.04 and 13.10?02:01
ROPAkostkon awesome, many tnx for the info.02:01
kostkonROPA, np02:01
SaberX01allan1097, upgrading more that two steps is not advised, LTS to LTS is ok .. but 12.04 to 13.10 is not advisable.02:02
allan1097Will be 14.04 LTS?02:03
Bashing-omallan1097; Yes the upgrades have gone very smooth for me on 3 different machines .. I am presently running 13.10 on all, upgraded on-line. no problems.02:03
SaberX01That would be an exception, more so than the rule.02:04
allan1097Can I hope Lubuntu 14.04 LTS?02:04
jo_greetings #ubuntu. Im having tough time to install wine on my 13.10 64bits. whatever i try to install it, i get  wine1.7-amd64 : Depends: wine1.7:any (= 1.7.8-0ubuntu1~saucy1)02:05
jo_                 Recommends: libosmesa6 but it is not going to be installed02:05
jo_any guess ? thanks !02:05
xmetalIf I am going to "make a few jumps" I personally think its easier to just download the newer ISO and start fresh02:05
wenwenhello02:05
SonikkuAmericaallan1097: Yes, 14.04 will be an LTS.02:05
SonikkuAmericaallan1097: And yes, 14.04 will be Lubuntu's first LTS release.02:06
Bashing-omallan1097: (u)buntu version 14.04 will be LTS .. last I was aware the decision had not been made at Lubuntu to support a LTS structure.02:06
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allan1097and then..... What I do?02:06
SaberX01Lubuntu & Xubuntu support LTS,  but it's not 5yrs, think it's 3yrs02:07
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jo_elp, im so close to switch back to windows :'(02:08
ROPAkostkon  no joy, pavucontrol does not allow me to adjust the volume for each application......it's not specific to each application.......also, it says volume can't be adjusted until an application is actaully running and putting out audio.02:08
kostkonROPA, that's true, but pulseaudio will remember your choice next time, per app02:09
allan1097You will decide the future of my PC02:09
kostkonROPA, in theory, you only need to set the device, volume level etc for an app only once02:09
SaberX01More Lubuntu info: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2013-April/003941.html02:10
kostkonROPA, the only prerequisite is that the app needs to be running and producing audio to appear in pavucontrol02:10
Blobhow do I get to the boot menu on an asus02:11
WhatIsTheMatrixBlob: you mean get into the bios settings?02:11
ROPAkostkon  I saw a program that listed each audio application...and allowed volume and soundcard chooser for every ap running....separte controls for each ap.02:11
kostkonROPA, that's pavucontrol02:12
jo_Les paquets suivants contiennent des dépendances non satisfaites : wine : Dépend: wine1.6 mais ne sera pas installé02:12
BrianHHas anyone ever gotten preseed installations working?02:12
ROPAkostkon unfortunately, I cant remember the name of the program!!!!02:12
jo_woops sorry02:12
Jordan8what all?02:12
Blobyeah it is a win8 computer but the I cant change the boot setting02:12
qinjo_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install -f && sudo apt-get install wine (or check if there is ppa with higher version if needed)02:12
BrianHNvm, it's working now ...02:13
Blobyeah it is a win8 computer but the I cant change the boot setting WhatIsTheMatrix02:13
SonikkuAmericajo_: I barely know French but I know what that means.02:13
jo_qin: thks so much, im tryin right now !02:13
WhatIsTheMatrixBlob: try pressing the 'Delete' key as it's booting. just keep repeatedly pressing it if you have to until the bios menu appears02:13
Jordan8why not work for me: sudo rm -Rf /02:14
qinjo_: also other distros (like sabayon) will get version much before ubuntu02:14
ROPAkostkon an example is my laptop, I am streaming music using firefox, so I want a low volume for that......but, I want to be able to hear the output if a friend pages me on irc, so xchat needs to have a very loud outpuit.........02:14
SonikkuAmerica!DANGER | Jordan802:14
ubottuJordan8: DO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND! That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you!02:14
qinJordan8: That's really boring02:14
BlobWhatIsTheMatrix, it says fast boot is disabled02:15
SonikkuAmericaWhatIsTheMatrix: (By the way the answer is Skynet)02:15
sideup66ok im back, sorry02:15
WhatIsTheMatrixBlob: you're in the bios menu now?02:15
oopaxHEllo02:15
WhatIsTheMatrixSonikkuAmerica: not too bad of an answer. but i'd say that's not really it02:15
Jordan8im not Robinson02:15
kostkonROPA, set an appropriate sound for the beep or message event in xchat, settings -> preferences -> sound02:16
Jordan8im Jordan02:16
BlobWhatIsTheMatrix, yep02:16
WhatIsTheMatrixBlob: okay. so it's set to fast boot. so is my asus system02:16
Jordan8Ubuntu have filter and rm / not work yes?02:16
Blobhow do I change it to where I can put ubuntu on it through an external cd drive02:17
ROPAkostkon i'll have a look at xchat, many tnx and gzl.02:17
qinJordan8: yes02:17
j4n6hi all! Any of you that can tell me a lightweight solution for the DE/WM that can have a panel with global/appmenu? Tried some with xfce panel and lxde panel but both dont seem to support that atm02:17
Jordan8how disable filter?02:17
BlobWhatIsTheMatrix, how do I change it to where I can put ubuntu on it through an external cd drive02:17
qinJordan8: not supported here, i guess02:17
WhatIsTheMatrixSonikkuAmerica: i would say that's part of it tho ;-)02:18
Jordan8what with Unity next?02:18
SonikkuAmericaj4n6: MATE can have it02:18
kostkonROPA, np good luck02:18
JohnHJordan8:  y do u want to do this?02:18
WhatIsTheMatrixBlob: iirc, it's boot drive priority setting02:18
j4n6could i use mates panel and gala as wm?02:18
acecipherHi, can anyone here help me get my audio working? I need to change the default PCM device.02:18
Jordan8Hawaii is the bestest DE! http://www.maui-project.org/news/2013/12/24/hawaii-020-released/02:19
BlobWhatIsTheMatrix, okay now how do get the added boot option to run02:19
Jordan8http://www.maui-project.org/images/showcase/screenshots/appchooser.png02:20
j4n6whats cool about that new project Joran8?02:20
WhatIsTheMatrixBlob: use the plus and minus keys(+/-) to change the priority of the drives for booting to.02:20
WhatIsTheMatrixBlob: there might be a setting somewhere in the bios to set/unset booting from optical drive as well02:20
jo_qin: so the problem is the same : he tells me thats he needs wine1.6, but it wont be installed. If i try to install wine1.6 manually, it will prompt me another like error ...02:20
jo_qin: am i dumb ?02:21
bugtraqOLa02:21
Jordan8Hawaii on the QT. RazorQT and LXDE died.02:21
Jordan8qt5 is nice02:21
SonikkuAmericaJordan8: LXDE and Razor did not die.02:22
j4n6is there the kde global menu using hawaii?02:22
SonikkuAmericaJordan8: LXDE + Razor = the new LXDE.02:22
BlobWhatIsTheMatrix, when I create a boot option I asks for a file path02:22
Jordan8nope they die no! udk02:22
SonikkuAmericaLXDE-Qt, or just LXQt for short.02:22
Jordan8yes and its new project02:22
Jordan8LXDE based on the old gtk202:22
SaberX01Plus Mir DM02:22
WhatIsTheMatrixBlob: i'm not sure what you are looking at/seeing. this is in the bios?02:23
BlobWhatIsTheMatrix, yes02:23
Jordan8and RazorQT was very very prealpha version02:23
SonikkuAmericaWow, you know not of which you speak. As a Lubuntu Communications member, I am telling you, neither LXDE nor Razor are dead or dying.02:23
* acecipher is using LXDE right now02:24
Jordan8now both died02:24
j4n6is there, now, any point in getting mir instead of bugfixing?:D02:24
WhatIsTheMatrixBlob: i don't think i know how to help with that. i just set the drive to boot from. if i need to boot up from a bootable dvd, i set my dvd drive to be the first (priority) drive and i'm done02:25
Jordan8sonni no, LXDE gtk2 and RazorQT died 100 %02:25
j4n6anyway, i really need some advice: theres nothing xcept the mate desktop that can have global menu and still being light weight? i like unity but id love to get some less battery use out of the machine02:25
Jordan8now only LXDE-QT02:25
SaberX01j4n6, all depends on the purpose of you box, if it's a test box only try it out, send in bug rpts reports, but if it's for production use, better stick with LTS versions.,02:25
Jordan8and its new DE02:25
BlobWhatIsTheMatrix, my external wont show up in the bios02:25
sideup66does anyone know how to disable a device on a xubuntu 12.04 system02:26
j4n6SaberX01 actually my machine is funky with lts but smooth with 13.10, its some driver issue form lenovo...its the same with windows too it only really works well with pure win8.1 drivers02:26
WhatIsTheMatrixBlob: oh... external drive. don't know, sorry02:26
Jordan8LXDE-QT not lightweight02:26
sideup66the machine has a built in sd-card reader that is located on /dev/sdb, and it seems somthing in the shell keeps trying to write some type of cache i believe to it and throwing failure errors into the shell02:26
Jordan8and I installed Hawaii02:26
BlobWhatIsTheMatrix, usb wont even show up02:26
sideup66It isnt necessary so my best bet is probably to just shut it off02:27
j4n6all i want is to get maximum screen estate if i could use xfce with global menu and gala wm that would b what i want02:27
SaberX01j4n6, I dont have any real hardware running 13.10 .. only VM's for install testing.02:27
WhatIsTheMatrixBlob: i have an external blu-ray usb drive. and i bet if i hooked it up and went into the bios, i doubt i could select it as a bootable drive either02:27
jo_ok. Thats it, im leaving linux. Linux sucks. i tryed it for one month, and it definitly sucks. Now i get why its free.02:27
j4n6SaberX01 unity got faster on 13.10, its perfect and better battery usage then kde ^^02:27
sideup66jo02:27
sideup66what is your problem?02:27
j4n6jo : bb02:28
WhatIsTheMatrixjo_: lol02:28
WhatIsTheMatrixlinux ROCKS!02:28
WhatIsTheMatrixnothing is hidden02:28
j4n6gnu/linux. take the time to state it right02:28
WhatIsTheMatrixyeah, gnu/linux02:28
jo_(it was meant to make you react and help me get over a godamn dependency problem !02:28
Jordan8What about ReactOS? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNo34VPJqsw02:28
BlobWhatIsTheMatrix, I will just take to the place I got it and have them do it02:28
sideup66I look at linux and windows like this: linux is a diesel truck, it can be more a pain to setup, but once its done, itll run til the hardware around it literally breaks down02:28
oopaxhhh02:28
sideup66what is the dependency problem?02:29
kostkonjo_, add the ppa, try installing the latest version, instructions on the wine website02:29
WhatIsTheMatrixBlob: okay. you can keep asking if you want. someone lese might know something i don't02:29
sideup66windows is like a gasoline car, easy to drive and all, but breaks down over time02:29
sideup66linux just keeps chugging02:29
j4n6sideup66 : you are horribly wrong. windows 8.1 is a dream, for normal use its perfect. ubuntu can come close but windows beats osx and linux on performance. linux and os are pretty though02:29
jo_seriously, the prompt is litteraly saying : i cant, i miss the xxx version. And i wont install it.02:29
oopaxside true that!02:29
Jordan8yes just use ReactOS02:30
BlobWhatIsTheMatrix, thank you for the help, kind sir02:30
oopaxcat the log02:30
glitsj16j4n6: you might be able to do what you want using a custom xsession, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CustomXSession for an intro could help02:30
j4n6windows 8.1 is an awesome os as is 7, but if u need unix u gotta use osx or gnu its simple.02:30
WhatIsTheMatrixBlob: sure. you're welcome. good luck02:30
sideup66I like linux for primarily work purpose machines, like if I need a server or a bot, its getting good, but not quite there yet as a desktop os02:30
j4n6glitsj16 i already changed the session to get gala but the fricking global menu for xfce...i cant get it to work02:30
sideup66in purpose builds, its beautiful, just doesnt break02:30
j4n6sideup windows is fine for work too, small to medium server are totally fine with it02:31
oopaxjo.... cat the /var/log02:31
j4n6theres no being better osx and windows are pretty awesome spyware and they are kinda for free too since u get one with every pc/mac u buy02:31
bjrohanHow do I make sure my ~/bin and all of it's subdirectories are in my $PATH? I have a /bin directory,  so according the my .profile file, it looks like at least /bin is in $PATH02:31
j4n6bin is always in path02:32
SaberX01No it's not, not they way he wrote it ~/bin02:32
j4n6echo $PATH02:32
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SaberX01if you want ~/bin .. you need to add it to your ~/.bashrc02:33
glitsj16j4n6: not sure this still applies, and maybe you've already seen it .. http://askubuntu.com/questions/27189/is-there-a-global-menu-for-the-xfce-panel02:33
cvtsxhey saber ;)02:33
SaberX01j4n6, ~/bin .. unless he's added that is not in env path02:33
SaberX01cvtsx, Hey .. how goes the server wars02:33
j4n6i get it, didnt see the ~ since he didnt state it in the second time he wrote /bin02:33
cvtsxlol ehh alright i guess02:34
j4n6btw call it /opt if u want to install programs in your user dir and then softlink them to /bin02:34
rob_hereHi guys!02:34
WhatIsTheMatrixhello02:34
rob_hereFirst time on IRC >.> and first time I've spent a lot of quality time with ubuntu02:35
j4n6hmm doesnt look like i get global menu with xfce panel or any panel i could use instead:(02:35
WhatIsTheMatrixcool02:35
cvtsxi guess i can retry with znc, wont  bother you guys as much again lool02:36
cvtsxi was sleep deprived last time02:36
jmancan anyone help me fix my wifi it quit working02:36
kostkonrob_here, hi02:37
WhatIsTheMatrixrob_here: so how do you like it so far? what do you think?02:37
jo_kostkon: i really appreciate your help. However, the link given is apt://wine.1.4 . i never saw a link like that02:37
j4n6jman u gotta give us the logs and stuff if ukow what i mean02:37
WhatIsTheMatrixrob_here: are you new to gnu/linux?02:37
rob_hereyes, I've been a windows zombie for a while02:37
Jordan8bb friends i go fap02:37
kostkonjo_, the version is wrong anyways, the latest is 1.7.902:37
rob_herewhy did your names turn red?02:37
j4n6rob_here : did it work at first?02:38
WhatIsTheMatrixrob_here: cool. no worries02:38
WhatIsTheMatrixrob_here: it's because i prefixed my post with your nick02:38
bjrohanIf ~/bin is in my $PATH, does that mean all sub directories are also searched?02:38
cvtsxI like linux (ubuntu specifically) , but windows has some programs i use everyday (and are only compatible with windows).02:38
j4n6bjrohan : just dont put a bin dir in your home folder, period02:39
j4n6cvtsx : whats those programs?02:39
SaberX01!fhs | bjrohan Good Reference Material02:39
rob_herewell I got a SSD and tossed in an ubuntu live disk, I have a pretty solid rig for gaming, and it installed like butter, and plays like something you'd really like eat with butter02:39
ubottubjrohan Good Reference Material: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview  see also: man hier02:39
cvtsxj4n6: steam, visual studio is about it02:40
jo_kostkon: cant see it in the winehq website. Guess what, im tryin sudo apt-get install wine 1.7.9. The fate of this command is sooo unknown !02:40
cvtsxbut steam includes all my games so...02:40
bjrohanj4n6: I have one in their already,  but for some reason a script about 3 below is not being run, even after logging out and back in to load the .profile02:40
L-Chymerahi, what linux application can I use to separate a big .flac with .cue and .log mtadata into single tracks?02:40
rob_hereso what does prefixing my user name do for you?02:40
j4n6j4n6 : steam works with ubuntu, visual studio welll...unless you are coding big projects theres better solutions/as good solutions02:40
WhatIsTheMatrixrob_here: if you prefix you post with someone(s) nick(s), they'll see it in red if their irc client is configured to do so. so that a post to them stands out from the rest of the chat02:40
SaberX01bjrohan, the $PATH is not recursive02:40
jo_kostkon: Oh! what a surprise ! it wont install, cause there is a broken dependency ! how surprinsing !02:41
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rob_hereis there a good site check out irc commands?02:41
cvtsxyeah i know but not all my games are compatible, and i will (only like once actually lol) use code:blocks but visual studio definitely is the best02:41
WhatIsTheMatrixrob_here: you can use what's called 'nick completion', you type in say..  WhatIs... then press TAB02:41
bjrohanSaberX01: thank you02:41
kostkonjo_, here http://www.winehq.org/download/ubuntu  like it says, give sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa   then sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get install wine1.702:41
j4n6bjrohan : ill tell u one last time: dont do what u are going to do. there shouldnt be any folders inside any /bin if u wnat to store programs store them i /opt or ~/opt02:42
j4n6jo : just delete ubuntu, install windows. if the biggest of your concerns is to get windows stuff working with wine just dont use ubuntu02:42
SaberX01!ppa | jo_02:43
ubottujo_: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge02:43
jo_kostkon: as you seem most comprehensive than others, ill stop all sarcasm and follow your wise advice. Dude, my futur on this Os depend of you :D02:43
rob_hereso I type "say. .  WhatIs. . ." or "WhatIs. . ."?02:43
rob_hereoh, wait I get it02:43
rob_herenevermind02:43
WhatIsTheMatrixrob_here: okay, cool02:43
acecipherHi, does anyone know how to change the PCM device in Alsa?02:44
rob_hereWhatIsTheMatrix, gotcha02:44
WhatIsTheMatrixrob_here: awesome02:44
rob_hereWhatIsTheMatrix,02:44
SaberX01jo_, If the future selection for a Linux Distribution depends on using WINE  .. then serious consideration should be given to another platform OS all together.02:44
rob_herej4n6, hi, sorry still learnin a bit02:44
jo_ubottu: well i kinda like the main purpose of Linux. Free, community, alternativ, efficient in some ways.. but i need to use soft i work with. So if linux is not for ppl like me, there is a huge problem, cause a lot of ppl are working with soft build for window02:45
ubottujo_: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)02:45
rob_hereWhatIsTheMatrix, very similar to how some MMOs chat02:45
cvtsxbots can be intelligent02:45
jo_ubottu: well thats for your creator02:45
ubottujo_: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)02:45
XcytreWhy not have two machines?02:45
WhatIsTheMatrixrob_here: ahh, i hear you02:45
j4n6iv got a windows desktop to play and my laptop to work. even though windows would work as well02:45
jo_j4n6: well i kinda like the main purpose of Linux. Free, community, alternativ, efficient in some ways.. but i need to use soft i work with. So if linux is not for ppl like me, there is a huge problem, cause a lot of ppl are working with soft build for window02:46
jo_here you go02:46
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WhatIsTheMatrixi remember booting gnu/linux for the first time years ago and faced nothing but a command prompt. X-Windows was something very new. i had no X for a long time until i finally found my way around some, and then finally figured out how to setup/configure X02:46
j4n6jo : what do u need to work? the earlier mentioned visual studio is the only work tool that wont run on linux. and office but libre office is as good unless ur writing papers then its a little harder to setup some stuff02:46
j4n6WhatIsTheMatrix: gentoo oldschool stage1:D02:47
WhatIsTheMatrixj4n6: roger. :-) my first was RH 5.102:47
jo_kostkon: ppa adding : check. sudo apt-get update : check. sudo apt-get install wine1.7 :  wine1.7 : Depends: wine1.7-i386 (= 1.7.8-0ubuntu1~saucy1)02:47
jo_E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.02:47
WhatIsTheMatrixRed Hat 5.102:48
j4n6WhatIsTheMatrix : my first linu was some very old suse. i still hate the distro:D02:48
jo_j4n6: i need to use matrix gemvision. Also, i admit it, Eve online.02:48
kostkonjo_, then give  sudo apt-get install wine1.6 wine1.7-i38602:49
kostkonjo_, no, i meant!02:49
kostkonjo_, then give  sudo apt-get install wine1.7 wine1.7-i38602:49
WhatIsTheMatrixj4n6: copy that. i've never tried suse02:49
j4n6WhatIsTheMatrix : the new suse is about the best kde if u can call kde best_D02:50
WhatIsTheMatrixj4n6: do you like kde at all?02:50
j4n6jo : did u try apt-get install wine at first? i just did that a hundred times and no problems so far02:50
j4n6WhatIsTheMatrix, : at first i prefered gnome as a name.then as a de. now i still dont like kde:D02:50
jo_j4n6: of course. First thing i did.02:50
jo_kostkon: http://pastebin.com/NmcRRSbG here is the output of the command02:51
j4n6jo : are u using 12.04?02:51
WhatIsTheMatrixj4n6: i kind of like a lot of the window managers and desktop environments, but not some of the really old crusty one's, like olvwm02:51
SaberX01j4n6, :-) .. was gonna say, Best & KDE are two words I'd never put together .. lol02:51
jo_j4n6: negative. Im running 13.10. on 64bits architecture02:51
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kostkonjo_, hmm what graphics driver are you using02:52
j4n6jo :  im too and it did just install some hours ago...lemme google that log02:52
WhatIsTheMatrixj4n6: i like WindowMaker though. i can even take Motif02:52
j4n6looks like your mesa is messed up02:52
j4n6j4n6 : winow make > kde okay, its still not good:D02:52
jo_kostkon: thats a good question. However how could this be a driver related problem ?02:53
jo_j4n6: sure. Maybe youll have more luck than me02:53
j4n6jo : did u try -f as option to force install? it could be a drive rproblem because mesa is related to your driver02:54
jgautierI have been trying to install xbmcbuntu and ubuntu off of a USB drive for the last few hours and I keep getting "Failed to isntall bootloader02:54
jgautierive tried 2 different usb sticks02:54
jgautierand ubuntu 12.0 and xbmcubuntu both have the same problem02:54
jo_j4n6: what is mesa ?02:54
WhatIsTheMatrixsince i'm using 'trusty'(testing) the ubuntu de(compiz/gnome/unity) is unstable. so i'm using kde which had a fairly nice recent 4.12.0 release in trutsy. and it seems pretty stable.02:54
j4n6just try apt-get install -f wine at first02:54
j4n6WhatIsTheMatrix, : its table but it hoggs more ressources or the same as unity and then unity has better alt+tab:)02:55
WhatIsTheMatrixj4n6: true, that02:55
j4n6and out of the box super+number window switching02:55
kostkonjo_, hmmm http://askubuntu.com/questions/138530/why-do-i-get-an-unmet-dependencies-error-when-trying-to-install-wine/190424#19042402:55
j4n6kostkon whawt do u think will happen if he follows the stuff and types vi ... hes gonna kill his pc cuz that editor doesnt write stuff:D02:56
kostkonj4n6, yeah, better vi -> nano02:56
WhatIsTheMatrixj4n6: you ever use enlightenment? i just tried compiling it from source, and wow, i finally got it to all to compile, but 0.17.5 wasn't very stable and then they just released and 0.18.1 and i had libtool problems trying to compile it02:56
jo_j4n6: i tryed -f also. nvidia settings tells me im on 304.88 version.02:57
j4n6WhatIsTheMatrix, i used it briefly as it was beta ... 10years ago:D id say that xfce/unity are the best complete DE u can get02:57
jo_kostkon: thks im looking at it02:58
j4n6jo did u add some ppa or click on some of the software sources in the manager?02:58
WhatIsTheMatrixj4n6: i've used xfce a little before and liked it well enough. i do like the compositing features in the ubuntu de and kde though. i don't think xfce has compositing feature... or does it? been a long time since i've tried it02:59
j4n6WhatIsTheMatrix, you can pretty easily use gala for compositing02:59
WhatIsTheMatrixj4n6: ahh, interesting. don't know what that is. i might check it out02:59
j4n6WhatIsTheMatrix, :02:59
jo_j03:00
j4n6ah cant paste shitty lxde de03:00
jo_j4n6: yep but i deleted them03:00
j4n6http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/14heuu/xfce_gala_plank_awesome/03:00
j4n6now it worked thats gala+xfce03:00
WhatIsTheMatrixj4n6: okay, thank you03:00
jmanwhats the paste website03:01
j4n6http://paste.ubuntu.com/03:01
jo_kostkon: do you mind to provide an assistance for that link u provided ? looks like it is a bit dated; and i dont want to screw my OS !03:01
glitsj16WhatIsTheMatrix: xfwm4 always had compositing03:01
j4n6gala is just a lot nicer;)03:02
jo_kostkon: like pin-priority 201203:02
jmanokay maybe this will help03:02
jmanhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6643234/03:02
rob_hereis there a way for me to connect to multiple networks at the same time?03:02
jo_its 2014 dude !03:02
j4n6gala is pretty awesome gala+plank has that nice alt+tab03:02
SaberX01rob_here, what do you mean by multiple_networks .. via SSH or LAN  or ??03:03
j4n6jo if u wnat to try this: boot with the livecd and try apt-get install wine. if it works u messed something up and we can work from there. or u reinstall03:03
rob_hereSaberX01, as in IRC chat groups :P03:03
j4n6sure u can rob:D03:03
jo_j4n6: no problem. See you in 5 min :) thks alot :)03:03
j4n6xchat can do new->server thing03:04
MrJeromestarting today whenever I boot up I get a system program internal error03:04
WhatIsTheMatrixglitsj16: oh? been years since i've used it and i don't think it had it back in the day when i used it.03:04
SaberX01rob_here, yes, what program you using for IRC03:04
MrJeromeI'm on 13.1003:04
rob_herenew->server03:04
rob_hereSaberX01, xchat03:04
glitsj16WhatIsTheMatrix: i think you have to enable it explicitly through the window manager tweaks settings03:05
rajrajrajas in windows there is regedit i.e. registry editor what is there in ubuntu 12.10.03:05
SaberX01rob_here, use Ctrl+S and connect to whatever ya like.03:05
WhatIsTheMatrixglitsj16: okay. i will check it out if i install xfdesktop. been thinking about installing it.03:06
SaberX01wow03:06
rob_hereSaberX01, ah, there we go. Tyvm03:06
MrJeromeI'm gonna reboot and get the exact message03:06
WhatIsTheMatrixglitsj16: guess i'll go ahead and install it right now ;-)03:07
acecipherDoes anyone know where my Alsa config files would be? >.>03:07
acecipherI think its not detecting my clock timing right.03:07
glitsj16WhatIsTheMatrix: http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfwm4/wmtweaks seems to confirm that, but as so often, isn't updated to actuality .. i found it to be very reliable though03:08
WhatIsTheMatrixglitsj16: cool. thanks03:08
j4n6aceipher your clock is wrong with which distri?03:08
Blobhow do I get to the boot from an external drive so I can install ubuntu03:09
j4n6Blob you cant boot from external drives, use a pendrive usb03:09
SaberX01Blob, make sure you set you BIOS to boot from portable media first, get to you boot menu and select the media to boot from.03:09
acecipherj4n6, lubuntu03:10
ROPAyou can boot from an external drive, but you must install the image file of the installation.......not just copy it.03:10
acecipherIts a problem with the base Alsa PCM, though, or something. When I manually set the PCM in Audacious it works fine.03:11
j4n6acecipher i dont know about lubuntu that much, cant help u sorry all i know is that usually that stuff works out of the box since maybe ubuntu 903:11
rob_herethanks for the help tonight guys.03:11
ROPAyou can also boot from a partition where the installation image is...........there's help on the ubuntu pages where you download the images.03:11
SaberX01He needs an image to install first, LiveCD, USB something, and that means he has to boot it in most cases, before he can install it.03:12
WhatIsTheMatrixrob_here: cheers. enjoy03:12
Blobthank you SaberX01, after I install ubuntu will I have boot from the external drive  or no03:12
acecipherWell its a base alsa problem. I'd not expect lxde to interfere with that.03:12
administrator_hello03:12
ROPASaberX01 got it!!!!03:12
acecipherI had the same problem under ubuntu.03:12
SaberX01Blob,  if thats how you install the boot loader yes, but that's up to you.03:12
j4n6jo did it work with the live cd?03:14
acecipherI mean, in many ways I'm more comfortable in a terminal than a GUI03:14
jo_j4n6: okay well thats a good bad news, but i confirm sudo apt-get install wine on live cd result an error03:14
rajrajrajhow do i enable the universe software repo. in ubuntu 12.10. i have tried askubuntu.com but it didnt work03:14
BuntuFuntuMy SSD for some reason stopped working03:15
BuntuFuntuO_O03:15
acecipherAlternatively is there somewhere where I can get help from people who know alsa?03:15
acecipherBuntuFuntu, how old is it?03:15
sajanrajrajraj: In 12.10, I think you can enable it in he "Software and Sources" app.03:15
sajanrajrajraj: Software and Updates03:15
jo_j4n6: somehow my selfesteem feel a bit better now03:15
j4n6jo its the same error again?03:15
rajrajrajsajan: tried , but kam nahi aya03:15
BuntuFuntuEh, I'm not exactly sure, got it off a friend who didn't want it anymore after buying a regular HDD03:15
jo_j4n6: yeah03:15
Blobwhat if I install the boot loader somewhere else instead of the the external drive03:16
j4n6jo can u paste the error again?03:16
jo_sure03:16
SaberX01Blob, the boot loader needs to me installed in the MBR not the external HD03:16
peezybroHey all03:16
SaberX01Blob, for example, /dev/sda03:17
Blobokay thank you03:17
linuxuz3ris there a system log for ubuntu03:17
j4n6linuxuz3r, yes03:18
UtopyHave you ever had problems with technology "advanced format"?03:18
jo_j4n6: http://pastebin.com/cLZcq0rq here you go :)03:18
SaberX01linuxuz3r, /var/log/syslog  .. and dmesg03:18
WhatIsTheMatrixand /var/log/kern.log03:19
rajrajrajhow can i send USD from modem i have attached to my ubuntu 12.1003:19
Barrin6USD?03:19
BuntuFuntuUSD?03:20
Barrin6us dollars?03:20
BuntuFuntuAfaik I know, USD means US Dollar03:20
BuntuFuntuDo you mean USB?03:20
Barrin6but that still doesn't make any sense :P03:21
MrJeromeI restarted and the error was gone :/03:21
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BuntuFuntuExactly03:21
BuntuFuntu:p03:21
j4n6jo i wrote u in a seperate window03:21
WhatIsTheMatrixlol03:21
Barrin6rajrajraj,03:21
WhatIsTheMatrixmaybe he needs to ask Ben Bernanke03:21
rajrajrajusd is like *123# as in mobile phones03:21
peezybroSorry to just jump into the convo, but does anyone recommend a IDE for Web Development? I was using aptana on windows but don't like it on linux.03:22
Utopypeezybro: bluefish03:22
Utopynot perfect, but good :)03:23
rajrajrajin other words i wanna dial *123# from the dial modem i have. and yes i have goota see the result03:23
rajrajrajdial up*03:23
Utopyyou have an app to manage your shared between your browser bookmarks?03:23
peezybroI will check it out!!!03:23
rajrajrajBarrin6: i just explained what i meant03:23
Utopyelse vim :]03:24
SaberX01!ide | peezybro,03:24
ubottupeezybro,: Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, pida, monodevelop, geany - Others: eclipse, netbeans, qtcreator03:24
Barrin6sorry I am not knowledgeable in that area of expertise rajrajraj03:24
rajrajrajBarrin6: k :)03:24
jmanj4n6 did you get the logs03:24
WhatIsTheMatrix!info minicom03:24
ubottuminicom (source: minicom): friendly menu driven serial communication program. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.2-1 (saucy), package size 324 kB, installed size 1036 kB03:24
nutter_d03:26
j4n6peezybro :the cool kids use sublime text. or vim. i really dont see the need for a IDE since u need an editor and a browser. if your talking ruby developement..that works without ide too03:26
MrJeromei like sublimetext03:26
WhatIsTheMatrixrajrajraj: i'm not sure, but what you're looking for might be 'minicom'03:26
Barrin6yea I"m a sublime text fanboi. But I heard vim is "trendy"03:27
Barrin6like if you don't use vim, you aren't cool03:27
somsip_Barrin6: mostly you'll find that people hear are a bit more mature than that03:27
somsip_*here03:27
somsip_Barrin6: use what works. Simple as that03:28
rajrajrajWhatIsTheMatrix: can be but the problem is i am unable to use universe source repo.03:28
WhatIsTheMatrixrajrajraj: oh. well, i suppose that could be a problem03:28
rajrajrajWhatIsTheMatrix: i always get this result "E: Unable to locate package minicon"03:29
WhatIsTheMatrixrajrajraj: it is... minicom   ...not minicon03:29
j4n6Barrin6,  yeah vim is trendy because vim+tmux is handy03:29
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j4n6and because vim is open, free and does all the stuff sublime text does03:30
WhatIsTheMatrixrajrajraj: maybe that's the problem?03:30
jmanj4n6 did you get the logs03:30
rajrajrajWhatIsTheMatrix: no, i get the similar result03:30
ehteshis there a way to gather windows from other screens/monitors/workspaces onto one screen?03:30
SaberX01rajrajraj, do you have universe enabled in your source list, as minicom is definitely in there.03:30
WhatIsTheMatrixrajrajraj: ohh, i see. that sux03:30
ehteshalso, is there an image viewer that lets me rename the images?03:30
WhatIsTheMatrixrajrajraj: what SaberX01 said03:31
ehtesheog and shotwell don't, as far as I can tell03:31
rajrajrajSaberX01: yes, but i am not sure if it worked, coz i am unable to down load any thing from Univ source repo03:31
wizesolomonHello, I have a problem, I think I accidently saved a very very important file on my swap partition thinking it was a usb device I have also encrypted the whole swap partition using truecrypt. When I try to decrypt it I am told that i must specify a filesystem. I am very lost and really really need that file! any help is greatly appreciated!03:32
SaberX01rajrajraj, do a clean up first, sudo apt-get autoclean; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update03:32
Utopywizesolomon: you lose03:32
Utopysorry03:32
WhatIsTheMatrixehtesh: gwenview has a rename function03:32
jribwizesolomon: how did you save it/03:32
WhatIsTheMatrix!infor gwenview03:33
WhatIsTheMatrix!info gwenview03:33
ubottugwenview (source: gwenview): image viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.11.3-0ubuntu0.1 (saucy), package size 2817 kB, installed size 4366 kB03:33
j4n6jman : no didnt see any logs im writing in a second window, hard to follow both03:33
rajrajrajSaberX01: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)03:33
jmanhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6643234/03:33
Utopyrajrajraj: other process wait ?03:33
rajrajrajSaberX01: E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/03:33
wizesolomonThe drive mounted automattically after it was encrypted and i just saved it like i would have on any drive by finding the mounted drive in the home folder03:33
rajrajrajUtopy: idk03:33
Utopyor you not root03:34
rajrajrajUtopy: i shall try with it being root03:34
jribwizesolomon: your encrypted swap mounted automatically to your home?03:34
qwertyqwertyI am about to a reinstall and want to back up my user settings. I am unable to boot into the system I am about to overwrite, but have managed to clone all the partitions to a backup drive with dd. My home folder is part of a separate partition can I replacethe new home folder with the backup to restore the settings? I also want to be able to restore the packages I've installed on the old install.03:34
SaberX01rajrajraj, you need sudo, and make sure nothing else has a lock on updates, like Synaptic or the SW Center.03:34
rajrajrajUtopy: same result03:35
rajrajrajSaberX01: yes SW did , trying again03:35
qwertyqwertyI am currently running a liveUSB image of Ubuntu 13.10, the old system is Ubuntu 12.0.4.303:35
wizesolomonI encrypted a partition on my drive that I thought was a usb dev/sda3 later I realized it was the swap partition when I looked at diskutil. After I had encrypted the drive I saved a file on it.03:36
rajrajrajSaberX01: same result03:36
rajrajraj:( i know something is really wrong03:36
Utopyqwertyqwerty: there is a tutorial on documentation03:36
Utopyrajrajraj: what is your problem ?03:36
rajrajrajUtopy: can not use universe source repo03:37
qwertyqwertyUtopy: What tutorial?03:37
Utopyrajrajraj: $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list03:38
Utopyqwertyqwerty: for list installed paquet03:38
qwertyqwertyUtopy: does that work from a liveusb using chroot?03:39
rajrajrajdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu quantal restricted main multiverse universe deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu quantal restricted main multiverse universe #Added by software-properties deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal-security main restricted universe multiverse deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu quantal-security main restricted universe multiverse #Added by software-properties deb http://archive.cano03:39
Utopyqwertyqwerty: I think not03:39
rajrajrajUtopy: ^^03:40
Utopyroh, pastebin.com :) ( @ rajrajraj )03:40
qwertyqwertyUtopy: Can I restore the settings after the reinstall using the .img files of the partitions?03:40
SaberX01rajrajraj, you probably have a lock in:  /var/lib/apt/lists/lock and / or /var/cache/apt/archives/lock and it's not allowing you to update the apt lista properly.03:40
rajrajrajSaberX01: idk, so how do i unlock it.03:41
Utopyrajrajraj: I think I have had this problem, set with an option to apt-get03:41
sideup66hey room03:41
WhatIsTheMatrixmaybe he should check his processes to make sure apt isn't already running somehow somewhere03:42
sideup66does anyone have an idea how to disable an internal usb sd card reader03:42
rajrajrajWhatIsTheMatrix: how03:42
rajrajrajUtopy: how03:42
WhatIsTheMatrixrajrajraj: sudo ps aux | grep apt03:42
SaberX01rajrajraj, can try rebootign or manuallt removing the locks .. then autoclean, clean and update.03:43
Utopy+103:43
WhatIsTheMatrixif there's a lock file in /var/lib/apt/lists/lock and / or /var/cache/apt/archives/lock it might be good to check that file with the  'lsof' command03:43
sorssideup66, blacklist it03:43
sideup66reason Im looking into disabling it is because I keep getting messages in my shell stating: asking for cache data failed03:44
rajrajrajSaberX01: plz no rebooting03:44
sideup66sors: I know how to blacklist a device driver now but how do I do it to a logical device03:44
sideup66it shows as /dev/sdb in the system03:44
rajrajrajWhatIsTheMatrix: http://pastebin.com/YVp5b4Pf03:44
sideup66then the next message would be: assuming drive-cache write through03:45
SaberX01rajrajraj, then  you gotta fins the locks and delete them, and make sure the apts are not runnign, that's all I can suggest.03:45
rajrajrajWhatIsTheMatrix: there is too much result with lsof03:45
WhatIsTheMatrixrajrajraj: it lloks like you have apt process running03:45
sorssideup66, maybe remove from fstab03:45
rajrajrajWhatIsTheMatrix: is there a process manager to forcible stop it03:45
WhatIsTheMatrixrajrajraj: never mind the lsof command for right now... it looks like the issue is apt is currently running03:46
sideup66its not listed there as it isnt mounted03:46
sideup66im not even sure what device would even talk to it03:46
WhatIsTheMatrixrajrajraj: from the output of your 'ps aux' command03:46
rajrajrajk03:46
WhatIsTheMatrixrajrajraj: what happens if you do...?   sudo killall apt-get03:47
rajrajrajWhatIsTheMatrix: apt-get: no process found03:47
rajrajrajsuck03:48
mgholaanybody here who can help with partition recovery?03:48
WhatIsTheMatrixredo the 'ps aux | grep apt'  again, and see if apt-get is still listed03:48
sorssideup66,  this might help http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-disable-modprobe-loading-of-usb-storage-driver/03:48
mgholaI have some questions about gpart and some other things.03:49
sideup66this is what i found from a search of the message in my shell03:49
sideup66http://askubuntu.com/questions/167343/what-is-a-asking-for-cache-data-failed-warning03:49
boernhey forks,  i have a question.. long time ago i auto mounted my harddisk.. but now i have removed it and when i boot he is still search for this hdd, telling me that its not ready.. then i have to skip .. is there a way to stop him searching for this harddisk?03:50
somsip_!fstab | boern03:50
ubottuboern: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions03:50
sorssideup66,  there just lsmod and see if you can see the module03:51
sideup66sors: to note, i would want to be able to still connect say, a flashdrive if needbe for whatever reason, but just stop that message, the issue I have with the link I had provided was that the ethernet device in this laptop is also a realtek, which concerns me as that would be a bad day to break03:51
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WhatIsTheMatrixrajrajraj: did you do....  sudo ps aux | grep apt   again?03:51
mgholaI got hit with a virus in windows which may have been directed by a linux worm to my ip/mac address.03:51
WhatIsTheMatrixis apt-get still listed as a running process?03:52
boernoh thanks now i can remember :)03:52
SaberX01Linux worm, infecting a Windows machine, now that is funny.03:53
mgholaI think it obtained my passwd via a phony failed keyring unlock on startup prompt.03:53
mgholaNo really03:53
sideup66im trying to find it03:53
sideup66just give me a moment03:53
SaberX01mghola, Im sorry but, you would have to work really hard to make that happen..03:54
mgholai dont know im confused I think it sent my ip/mac to a server so It could hit me when I booted windows03:54
sideup66sors: I found it03:55
sideup66should I post its output to a pastebin?03:56
sorssure03:56
sideup66http://paste.ubuntu.com/6643402/03:56
sideup66It keeps prompting like i said, about the asking for cache data message, and itll show every minute or so in the shell03:57
mgholaLook I know its weird I'm just trying to figure it out.  It wiped my boot partition and my linux partition and it hit me from windows.03:59
sorssideup66,  i would disable the module and load it manualy when i need it04:00
mgholaanyone an advanced user of gpart?04:01
SaberX01mghola, I suggest a very good Windows anti-virus program, not much one could be done from the Linux side other than whiping the whole thing and reinstalling the Linux partition / Bootloader04:01
SaberX01mghola, and you need to resolve the virus issue in Windows first, other wise, you probably right back in the soup again after install.04:03
mgholawindows virus problem I think is solved04:03
mgholabut you can't really be sure can you04:04
SaberX01mghola, not really, I'd wipe the whoel this if the bug wsa bad enough to jump from windows to Linux.04:04
WhatIsTheMatrixif i got hit with a rootkit/virus... i think i'd wipe/delete all partitions on the drive and install from scratch04:04
SaberX01whole thing .. ..04:04
WhatIsTheMatrixya04:04
WhatIsTheMatrixi wouldn't want any rootkit hanging around04:05
mgholai was hoping I could tell gpart to read the ntfs formatted freespace as ext4 to trick it04:05
mgholai agree but I want to recover a couple things first04:05
SaberX01mghola, that recover could be dangerous too, many sure yo run it through anti-virus as well.04:05
mappswhere can i check for errors to see why my wireless card isnt connecting :(04:06
SaberX01*make sure ...04:06
mgholayes i plan to be very careful04:06
mgholai worry about clamav's definitions being complete though04:06
SaberX01mghola, I'd back up whatever files to a DVD or something and wipe the whole drive and start over.04:06
mgholaim not sure what you mean, the files are hidden behind an ntfs wipe04:07
mgholathats why I need help with gpart04:07
SaberX01mghola, NTFS wipe?04:08
mgholareformat04:08
SaberX01gone then04:08
WhatIsTheMatrixlol04:08
mgholano there has to be a way04:08
SaberX01mghola, Insert LivCD and Install Ubuntu from scratch is all you really got left :-)04:08
sideup66ok im back04:08
sideup66i dont know if you got my message, my lan is taking its sweet time for whatever reason :/04:09
sideup66and I did that en=0 set, and it still did the message, so how do you disable the module sars?04:09
SaberX01mghola, that's all the help I can give Im affraid.04:09
WhatIsTheMatrixstick a fork in it04:10
mgholai think it just relabled the space, really.  if I could relable it as ext4 i think i would be in business with gpart04:10
SaberX01that steak is well-done :-)04:10
mgholabut yeah obviously you are probably right04:10
WhatIsTheMatrixprobably. i must say i can't be 100% certain tho... but it sure sounds like it's well-done04:10
SaberX01mghola, so lets see, virus, partitions removed, NTFS re-format, and there's still a chance ? all I can say is good luck. I dont know any tools that can do all that.04:11
sideup66my question is will disabling the module break all usb functionality for usb drives or will they still work?04:11
mgholaI just want to see if anyone knows gpart well04:11
SaberX01I do04:12
SaberX01and I dont know of a way to "Spoof" EXT4 into thinking it's NTFS ... that would be disastrous in itself.04:12
WhatIsTheMatrixno doubt04:12
mgholaok well sorry for pressing the issue04:13
mgholaim just hating my computer04:13
sideup66I would rather not disable all usb if needbe because I also have a wifiusb dongle on this machine that is used04:13
SaberX01mghola, maybe your better off in the windows IRC, they used to dealing with viruses that wipe out system.04:14
WhatIsTheMatrixcfdisk is pretty good and powerful. but it might be even more stringent than gparted04:14
Morphine!Help04:16
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience04:16
Morphine!patience04:16
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/04:16
SaberX01!ask04:17
WhatIsTheMatrixoverloaded him? lol04:17
WhatIsTheMatrixpoor guy04:17
SaberX01I think so :-)04:17
WhatIsTheMatrixlol04:17
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sideup66hm04:22
Richhhon an old 1GB RAM 3GHz Celeron, need a super lightweight offline svg editor04:22
Morphine:~04:23
Richhhinkscape takes too long to load, what are alternatives?04:24
Richhhthe alternatives*04:25
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sideup66ok just disabled it, now to see if i get the message again after a reboot04:27
RalieghHello there, noob here. I'm attempting to create a restart script of a program (Starbound for specifics). I am attempting to run the server in a screen terminal for simplicity (simple killall screen, screen <startup script>) but of course I get the no terminal found. Would anyone be able to help me?04:28
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RalieghAnother benefit of screen for this program is I can hop in and monitor whenever I want, so using screen is kind of necessary for me.04:29
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WhatIsTheMatrixis this server still on?04:29
RalieghHoly fuck...04:29
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somsip_!language | Raliegh04:29
ubottuRaliegh: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.04:29
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RalieghWoops, sorry.04:29
cihhanhas anyone tried installing Ubuntu mini? I have burnt a CD and when I boot from it, all I get is grub. Any suggestions?04:29
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qinRichhh: svg-edit with ff?04:30
Darkangelu do have a poiunt though was thankin the same04:30
RalieghAnyways, due to this spam... Should I re-ask my question?04:30
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Darkangelsure04:30
RalieghHello there, noob here. I'm attempting to create a restart script of a program (Starbound for specifics). I am attempting to run the server in a screen terminal for simplicity (simple killall screen, screen <startup script>) but of course I get the no terminal found. Would anyone be able to help me?04:30
RalieghAnother benefit of screen for this program is I can hop in and monitor whenever I want, so using screen is kind of necessary for me.04:31
somsip_Raliegh: this seems pretty thorough. Is there anything in here that might help? If not, maybe this forum is the better place to ask? http://is.gd/C4wR5N04:31
Darkangelpress alt+F3 on server04:31
Ralieghsomsip_ Nono, I'm well, well WELL beyond all of that setup stuff.04:31
Ralieghsomsip_ disregard Starbound entirely, that forum would have no idea (and is offline half the time anyways)04:32
RalieghLet us just say I need to run a screen application from an SSH script, how would I go about doing this?04:32
somsip_Raliegh: ssh to server, run screen, run application. Something like 'ssh -e 'screen -L application' but check the screen manpage properly04:34
qinRaliegh: or use tmux04:34
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Ralieghhttp://pastebin.com/Y5pcxN9q That is my restart script. It is run whenever a button is clicked on a web-page using node.js. However, it will not start because it says "Screen must be connected to a terminal" I need to bypass this.04:34
SaberX01A program dtach is a good screen app too.04:34
SaberX01*called04:34
CarlFKRaliegh: I think you are adding thing (like screen) that are causing you problems you don't need to solve04:35
somsip_Raliegh: yes. You need to attach to the existing screen session, or create a new one (though the latter would be a bit daft unless screen has crashed'04:35
RalieghCarlFK: The reason I want to run it in a screen terminal is so, if something happens, I can SSH in and attach to that session and debug.04:35
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Ralieghsomsip_ There won't be any existing. That last line should create a new screen and run said program.04:36
DarkangelJust wondering does Ubuntu developers like Testers? or like helpin out test Ubuntu 14.04 b4 it comes out04:36
RalieghLike, if I were in a terminal and typed that line it'd work fine, and closing it of course keeps the program running. I can SSH back in and attach whenever. I'm attempting to do that via a bash script without using a terminal at all. I hope I'm making sense.04:37
somsip_Raliegh: and you want it create a new screen session on each restart and leave the old screen session doing nothing. Ok... Then check the screen manpage for the correct syntax. -L looked about right to me but I'm more of a tmux user04:37
CarlFKRaliegh: there are other ways of debugging ... like just redirect stdio to a file .. but I am not sure what your process/app/whatever is, so hard to really say what is best04:38
somsip_R04:38
Ralieghsomsip_ The old screen session won't exist, hence killall screen04:38
somsip_Raliegh: ah - just saw that.04:38
Richhhqin: im looking for a super light non-web-based svg editor04:38
CarlFKRichiH: inkscape04:39
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RichhhCarlFK: inkscape takes too long to load04:40
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Ralieghsomsip_ It doesn't seem like -L would do it, that just speaks about logging. Would Tmux be able to do all of this stuff? I'm more than willing to ditch screen as long as I can get this working.04:40
CarlFKRichhh: vim :)04:40
Richhhgood, but i should mention i wanted a gui editor04:40
Richhhmaybe vim with a browser though04:40
ramborockswhats a good alternative file systems for a external i will be using on linux / windows?04:41
ramborocksi have ntfs04:41
Richhhalso mspaint is not opening in wine04:42
qinRichhh: http://www.junauza.com/2009/09/free-vector-graphics-editors.html, but from my expirience graphic station differ quite well from your setup, so you should adjust expectation or get acient version or let's say 10 CD openSuse04:42
Richhhseems a simple light offline editor is missing04:42
WhatIsTheMatrix!rgbpaint04:43
WhatIsTheMatrix!info rgbpaint04:43
ubotturgbpaint (source: rgbpaint): simple pixel-based painting program. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.7-4 (saucy), package size 92 kB, installed size 384 kB04:43
Richhhwill try now04:43
WhatIsTheMatrixrgr04:43
RichhhWhatIsTheMatrix: nice but i cant draw a box?04:44
qinRaliegh: /j #tmux04:45
somsip_Raliegh: so it is. Maybe -d is what you want.04:45
WhatIsTheMatrixRichhh: i think there are some others. i tried, i thin it was gnupaint once.. but bleh04:45
Ralieghqin Before I go joining a channel bugging them about something I may or may not know works for my needs, I'll ask the person suggesting it, thanks.04:45
Richhhconsidering writing one in Java04:45
Ralieghsomsip_ Thanks, I'm trying that one out.04:45
Richhhan mspaint clone that can save as .svg04:45
WhatIsTheMatrix!info mtpaint04:45
ubottumtpaint (source: mtpaint): painting program to create pixel art and manipulate digital photos. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.40-1ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 692 kB, installed size 1880 kB04:45
Richhhtrying04:46
WhatIsTheMatrixrgr04:46
WhatIsTheMatrix!info gnome-paint04:46
ubottugnome-paint (source: gnome-paint): simple, easy to use paint program for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.0-4 (saucy), package size 98 kB, installed size 638 kB04:46
RalieghPerfect somsip_ That was it. Thanks a lot for your time.04:46
WhatIsTheMatrixthis next one might be good...04:46
WhatIsTheMatrix!info kolourpaint404:47
ubottukolourpaint4 (source: kolourpaint): simple image editor and drawing application. In component universe, is extra. Version 4:4.11.2-0ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 1121 kB, installed size 1996 kB04:47
Richhhmtpaint is not bad, some little ui bothers04:47
Richhhi liked how u can simply drag out a box in paint04:47
WhatIsTheMatrixRichhh: rgr. might try that kolourpaint404:48
Richhhk04:48
Richhhtrying04:48
WhatIsTheMatrixkde stuff is usually pretty good.04:48
Richhhlong install04:49
WhatIsTheMatrixyeah... needs kde libs and such i'm sure04:50
Richhh<3 apt-get anyway04:50
WhatIsTheMatrixi'm running it now myself04:50
Richhhi aliased sudo apt-get install to 'get'04:50
WhatIsTheMatrixlooks a lot like mspaint04:50
Richhhso lovely04:51
WhatIsTheMatrixyeah.. i love apt-get and especially, aptitude04:51
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WhatIsTheMatrixsynaptic is very nice for a gui package manager04:51
SaberX01gnome-paint is light,  but don't see svg in the support list.04:51
ramborockswhats a good file format for window/ linux04:51
ramborocksi want it to be readable on both partitions04:51
RichhhFAT?04:52
RalieghThe only thing that sucks about apt-get is the fact that packages very quickly fall out of date.04:52
Raliegh:/04:52
ramborockswill fat support 1terr drives04:52
ramborocksi thought they didnt support files over 4 gigs04:52
SaberX01ramborocks, for windows = NTFS  .. Linux = EXT404:52
ramborockshmm04:52
rypervencheYou could do vfat04:52
RalieghSo, does anybody here have any experience with supervisor? I need a node.js script to run on system start, and to restart upon crash.04:52
WhatIsTheMatrixSaberX01: i think he wants to be able to read Ext4 from Windows04:52
ramborocksyes exactly whatisthematrix04:53
Richhhis that possible?04:53
WhatIsTheMatrixthey used to have an IFS for that for Ext304:53
WhatIsTheMatrixdon't know if there's one for Ext404:53
ramborocksim planning on going all linux. but i want my external drive to be readable on my wifes laptop04:53
CarlFKramborocks: depends on what your requirements are.  there are ext drivers for windows, and ntfs for linux.04:53
SaberX01in Wndows use an app like Ext2Read  or something ..04:54
ramborocksmmm k04:54
Richhhkolourpaint4 is still installing04:54
SaberX01can use Samba or SSHFS also04:54
ramborocksso basicly use what you got theres always a way?04:54
SaberX01like CarlFK said,  lots of options04:54
qinramborocks: why your external hd have to be ext4?04:55
ramborocksit dont have to be.04:55
ramborocksi was planning on formating it04:55
WhatIsTheMatrixRichhh: rgr, if your looking for mspaint it's probably close to it04:55
Richhhthen use a filesystem both can read04:55
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TreezusUbuntu ballets04:55
Treezusballers04:55
ramborocksfiguring if ntfs was the way to go or -  just go ext404:55
CarlFKramborocks:  using samba to share it over the network will be the most solid - anything else is going to rely on windows not doing something weird.04:55
qinramborocks: fat is good as it gets if you have compatibility issues04:56
ramborocksi gotta clear off what i want left before i format yet. so just prethinking04:56
TreezusI want to run Ubuntu on my lg mytouch. can y'all do that04:56
RichhhWhatIsTheMatrix: so far so good :)04:56
ramborocksjust plane fat? not fat32 right04:56
WhatIsTheMatrixramborocks: this came up on a search --> http://www.ext2fsd.com/04:57
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qinramborocks: well fat32, for ease of mind you can foemat it with M$ and Linux will read it04:57
WhatIsTheMatrixramborocks: says, it allows BOTH reading and writing of Ext2, Ext3, and Ext4 from Windows04:57
RichhhFAT32 works04:57
Richhhdont know about rest04:58
Richhhmy pendrive is formatted to fat32, reading fine in ubuntu04:58
Richhh(and windows, obv)04:58
Richhhand writing fine04:58
qinramborocks: well ext would benefit from ablity to conceal certin files04:58
Richhhah yes i formatted it in windows04:59
Richhhguess you could in linux though?04:59
mojtabaHi, I have an admin account and a normal account on my laptop. buy I can not log in with admin in GUI. Does anybody know what should I do?04:59
mojtabaalthough I can login via terminal with admin05:00
mojtabaI am now logged in as a normal user in GUI.05:00
mojtabawhen I type password in GUI for admin, it just shows a message very quickly and then returns to the login screen.05:01
vector_Is there a program like Xampp that's smaller?05:01
mojtabaPlease help05:01
IgniteMeowhi05:01
WhatIsTheMatrixmojtaba: when you want to use gui apps in X, precede the the command with "gksudo"05:01
IgniteMeowI have an Acer Aspire Netbook laptop and some how windows got deleted and stuffz05:01
Richhhvector_: consider node.js05:01
WhatIsTheMatrixmojtaba: like so....  gksudo lshw05:01
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mojtabaWhatIsTheMatrix: I can not login with admin in GUI05:01
vector_I got it05:01
IgniteMeowso I uhh tried installing ubuntu but the laptop is fricked up like hell05:01
WhatIsTheMatrixmojtaba: you don't login to X-Windows as root/admin05:02
Richhhi dont know about apache05:02
mojtabaWhatIsTheMatrix: no it does not login me with admin in x-windows, I just can login in terminal with admin.05:02
WhatIsTheMatrixmojtaba: just precede any command you want on a command line with 'gksudo'05:02
mojtabaWhatIsTheMatrix: by the way I am now logged in with normal user in x-window05:03
RichhhWhatIsTheMatrix: kolourpaint was good, fast loading, mspaintlike so far05:03
vector_I want apache, php ,and mysql in 105:03
WhatIsTheMatrixRichhh: :-)05:03
mojtabaWhatIsTheMatrix: how can I login as admin?05:03
RichhhWhatIsTheMatrix: pity it cant save as .svg05:03
vector_is there only xampp05:03
WhatIsTheMatrixRichhh: ya, no doubt05:03
mojtabaWhatIsTheMatrix: Gtk warning ** can not open display05:04
WhatIsTheMatrixmojtaba: you shouldn't run X-Windows as admin/root user05:04
IgniteMeowif everything got wiped on my laptop05:04
IgniteMeowlike nothing was on it05:04
somsip_vector_: what it is that you actually want to do?05:04
IgniteMeowif I install ubuntu on it05:04
qinmojtaba: what is your admin name?05:04
IgniteMeowwould it work fine?05:04
mojtabaqin: it is mojtaba05:04
WhatIsTheMatrixmojtaba: not sure what's wrong there. you were regular user when you tried... gksudo <command>  ?05:05
mojtabaWhatIsTheMatrix: I just logged in command line and typed gksudo firefox05:05
vector_a hour download seems like alot05:05
mojtabaWhatIsTheMatrix: no, admin. My laptop just shutdown before due to fan problem, and I guess it is related to it05:05
RichhhWhatIsTheMatrix: think its worth working on an mspaint-clone that does svg?05:05
vector_I just want mysql, php, apache in one05:05
somsip_vector_: you want apache, php and mysql? Just install them separately. No big deal05:06
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Richhhwould let people quickly dynamically and privately jot ideas05:06
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mojtabaWhatIsTheMatrix: qin?05:07
WhatIsTheMatrixmojtaba: do not try the 'gksudo' when you are logged in as admin... do not run gui apps from command line when logged in as admin. be regualr user, then --> gksudo <command>05:07
JazayriLinux is fantastic, whitout him i'll sleep 24h/24 !05:07
Richhheh spose its not important, back to work05:07
qinmojtaba: would you try to login via Alt-Ctrl-F7 as mojtaba, and after fail post revelant line of /var/log/Xorg.0.log and auth.log via paste.ubuntu.com05:07
Richhhthanks again WhatIsTheMatrix05:07
WhatIsTheMatrixRichhh: yes, i think it would be worth working on05:07
WhatIsTheMatrixRichhh: you're welcome! enjoy05:07
Richhh:)05:07
WhatIsTheMatrixi forget... what is the command to show what display you're on again?05:08
qinecho $DISPLAY; ?05:08
WhatIsTheMatrixahhh, thank you qin!05:09
WhatIsTheMatrixcouldn't remember05:09
naseHow can i use my netsetter for network connection?? it shows some error.05:11
WhatIsTheMatrixnase: doubt i can help with that, but you should post the error. if it's multiple lines then put it up on a pastebin05:12
WhatIsTheMatrix!pastebin05:13
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.05:13
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RichhhWhatIsTheMatrix:  btw kolourpaint can _open_ but not save/export svg05:15
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sideup66ok does anyone know what is going on here05:15
WhatIsTheMatrixRichhh: yes, i saw you mention that earlier. i'm not surprised it doesn't save/export to that format.05:16
IgniteMeowhow the heck do I put ubuntu tv onto my tv lol05:16
Richhhim surprised it opens it though05:16
WhatIsTheMatrixRichhh: even though i do not know much about graphics stuff. i do know that svg is relatively new05:16
sideup66i have tried to remove my usb card reader to stop an annoying message in my shell stating that asking for cache_data failed05:17
sideup66the next message would say assuming drive cache:write through05:17
WhatIsTheMatrixRichhh: if you know how to program and all, you could join the kde team and work on  kolourpaint4 i'm sure... or just download the source and work on it yourself05:18
Richhhyeah im thinking about it05:18
WhatIsTheMatrixi hear ya... you know how to program?05:19
Richhhreasonably05:19
WhatIsTheMatrixkde uses c++ heavily from my understanding05:19
Richhhi only did a little openGL game in C++05:20
WhatIsTheMatrixcool05:20
Richhhi was thinking of making an editor using JOGL05:20
WhatIsTheMatrixi can figure out what that stands for just looking at it05:20
WhatIsTheMatrixJava OpenGL05:21
Richhhyep05:21
Richhhi made a JOGL app before for a uni assignment05:21
WhatIsTheMatrixnice05:21
Richhhand tuxpaint's fun sounds are inspiring05:21
WhatIsTheMatrixhaha... tuxpaint has sound to it eh?05:22
Richhhyeah midi and cartoony sounds05:22
Richhhmade me laugh and smile05:22
WhatIsTheMatrixsweet. i can see how that would  be inspiring05:22
speckleooh, we're talking about making paint programs? :) I've started trying to make one using Python05:23
Richhhimagine combining fun (optional) sounds, easy mspaintclone ui, crossplatform hw accel rendering in JOGL, svg open/save support05:23
WhatIsTheMatrixman i started to leanr a little programming not long ago. but then got real busy with other stuff. need to get back to it05:23
WhatIsTheMatrixlearn*05:24
RichhhYT tutorials are the best start imo05:24
Richhhyoutube.com/thenewboston05:24
Richhhfrom there, trial and error and googling05:24
WhatIsTheMatrixRichhh: ahh, okay. i might check that out. i have some old video tutorials is how i was starting out. done in old 'quicktime'. play them with 'winff'05:26
Richhhlol05:26
Richhhgood old days05:26
WhatIsTheMatrixfrom the Virtual Learning Company05:26
WhatIsTheMatrixfor 'C'05:26
Richhhi like bucky @ youtube.com/thenewboston because he's relaxing, like your mate is guiding you through it and showing you cool stuff05:27
WhatIsTheMatrixMark Virtue is the teacher in the videos05:27
mghola+1 at Richh05:27
Richhhlooks interesting05:27
WhatIsTheMatrixMark Virtue is pretty relaxed id say as well05:28
Richhhhe's also genuine, not annoyingly fake05:28
WhatIsTheMatrixdoes buck teach 'C'? i'm guessing, no05:28
Richhhand has a sense of umour05:28
Richhh+h05:29
WhatIsTheMatrixjust a guess tho05:29
Richhha little05:29
WhatIsTheMatrixokay05:29
speckleIf you want to make a paint program, one thing to keep in mind is that GUIs are their own beast to tackle.  :P05:29
Richhhbut the c tuts are not complete i think05:29
WhatIsTheMatrixspeckle: i'll bet they are05:29
WhatIsTheMatrixi hear Qt5 is pretty nice tho05:29
Richhhbrb drink05:30
speckleQt means dealing with C++ though05:30
WhatIsTheMatrixyep, roger that05:30
speckleI guess you could go with PyQt though05:30
WhatIsTheMatrixya05:30
specklethat will let you use Qt through the Python language05:30
haha:)05:30
WhatIsTheMatrixPerl! haha05:30
speckleUnfortunately, there's nothing like the VB6 form designer for FOSS that I know of. I used to toy around with that back when I was on Windows, and it was really easy.05:31
WhatIsTheMatrixrgr05:31
IgniteMeowcan anyone help me05:32
IgniteMeowmy acer aspire laptop os got wiped somehow05:32
IgniteMeowlke everything did...so I installed ubuntu on it but now when I try launching it05:32
IgniteMeowit says05:32
IgniteMeowCant read file...you must run in kernal05:32
WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: strange... new one on me05:33
WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: have you tried the 'Advanced Options' when you're at the grub boot loader screen and then select "safe mode"?05:35
IgniteMeowhuh what?05:35
IgniteMeowthere is a list of 4 stuffz05:35
IgniteMeow"Ubuntu with Linux 3.8.0-29-generic05:35
WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: do you get a grub boot loader screen? or does it just go straight to trying to load up the OS?05:35
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IgniteMeowUbuntu, with Linus 3.8.0-29--generic(recovery mode), Memory test *nentest86+)05:36
IgniteMeow:p05:36
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WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: there should be another option below that05:36
WhatIsTheMatrixyeah05:36
WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: the recovery mode05:36
WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: you can try it anyway05:36
WhatIsTheMatrixsee what happens05:37
lotuspsychjesomeone knows howto color the boot text (quiet splash off) in green?05:37
IgniteMeowit says Loading Linux 3.8.0-29-generic...05:37
WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: okay...05:38
IgniteMeowoh now it says error: couldn't read file...Loading file and then05:38
somsip_lotuspsychje: old thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5005405:38
IgniteMeowit said other stuff and went back to the grub booter05:38
lotuspsychjesomsip_: tnx lemme try05:38
WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: you might want to try reinstalling. but wipe the disk clean of all partitions before actually installing05:38
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somsip_lotuspsychje: more recent threads have no solutions though so YMMV05:39
WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: i can walk you through doing that if you need05:40
lotuspsychjesomsip_: will that color all text or only yhe OK in green?05:41
somsip_lotuspsychje: that example just colors the OK, but just wrap the whole like in the ANSI color tags to color it all I guess05:41
somsip_*line05:41
IgniteMeowI did wahtisthematrix05:41
IgniteMeowwhat*05:41
IgniteMeowlike05:41
IgniteMeow10 times ^^05:42
FloodBot1IgniteMeow: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.05:42
IgniteMeowsorry D:05:42
lotuspsychjesomsip_: ok ill try, im tweaking my new ssd ubuntu netbook :p05:42
WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: you sure you wiped the hard disk of all "partitions" before you installed?05:42
somsip_lotuspsychje: that's some fine tweaking ;-)05:42
lotuspsychjesomsip_: boots up very fast already on quiet splash off05:43
IgniteMeowyes05:43
IgniteMeowit was something in the installation05:43
IgniteMeowclicked it then clicked continue and such05:43
WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: i don't know then, sorry. perhaps someone else might have an idea. keep posting your problem and error occasionally05:44
IgniteMeowis it because everything on my laptop got wiped05:45
WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: i think you should try again. start over. i would like to make sure you wiped all partitions. but you don't have to do that. i'm just saying i'd like to go through the process with you to make sure05:45
IgniteMeowliterally...its like you got a new PC with no os05:45
WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: well that error is sure a strange one to me. but then, i'm not shocked. i've seen a lot of strange ones05:46
IgniteMeowokay plugging my usb back in05:46
WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow:  i think you should boot up the live install cd. then use a utility to wipe the partitions before even starting/using the installation program05:47
WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: okay, sounds good. you don't have to do this if you don't want to. i was just stating what i want to do. ;-)05:47
IgniteMeowits fine so I am at the install screen05:48
IgniteMeowI click Install Ubuntu..right05:48
WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: when you've booted the usb stick, click on 'Try Ubuntu first'...05:48
WhatIsTheMatrixerr, select i should say05:49
sandhuhi i was downloading iso of 12.04 but i got struck after 48% downloading05:49
sandhui m not able to download 12.04 iso after 48%downloading05:49
IgniteMeowokay now wat, whatisthematrix05:50
akuninGuys, coming from a SuSE world, I have quite a few questions... First of, how do I find the package a specific file belongs to? E.g. with rpm I can do rpm -qf <file>. Is there an equivalent on ubuntu?05:50
IgniteMeowooo look its ubuntu...so cul05:50
IgniteMeow:p05:50
WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: cool :-)05:50
sandhupl help05:50
WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: okay, now you know how to pull up a gnome-terminal?05:50
sandhuhi i was downloading iso of 12.04 but i got struck after 48% downloading05:50
IgniteMeowhow do I do that, matrix05:51
WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: on the left menu bar, click on the most upper-left icon, then type in...  gnome-terminal05:52
WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: then click on the terminal icon that should come up05:52
IgniteMeownow what/05:54
WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: ok, so now you have a command prompt terminal?05:55
IgniteMeowmhm05:55
WhatIsTheMatrixokay05:55
WhatIsTheMatrixtype in the command  -->  gparted05:55
WhatIsTheMatrixand press Enter, of course05:55
somsip_WhatIsTheMatrix: sudo gparted??05:56
WhatIsTheMatrixhe/she is using a live install usb stick05:56
IgniteMeowroot privileges are required for running gparted05:56
IgniteMeow:p05:56
kruxomangparted will ask05:56
WhatIsTheMatrixdo you need 'sudo' when using live install?05:57
WhatIsTheMatrixi forget05:57
IgniteMeowI tried it with sudo05:57
IgniteMeowand then it opened something:p05:57
WhatIsTheMatrixokay, good05:57
RalieghHello, would anyone be able to offer me direct one-on-one assistance with getting a node.js and bash script to auto-restart upon failure, and auto-start on server start? I can pay, it's very high priority for me right now. I've tried both supervisor and upstart but neither work.05:57
WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: at the very top it should show a bar-like graph of all your partitions05:58
IgniteMeowokay05:58
IgniteMeowI see it :p05:58
WhatIsTheMatrixi'd start by clicking on the one at the far right, then delete it. do the same for the rest of them, from right to left05:59
WhatIsTheMatrixonce you have selected to delete all of them, you'll need to click 'Apply'06:00
IgniteMeowit says 1 operation pending down06:00
marzI'm currently researching about the boot sequence of Linux. Does the BIOS read the MBR and load the bootloader, or does the MBR has a bootloader itself that the BIOS loads?06:00
WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: did you only have one partition?06:00
kruxomanmarz: From Sweden?06:01
IgniteMeowihhh06:01
IgniteMeowuhh06:01
IgniteMeowI have 3 partitions06:01
marzkruxoman: Sorry but no.06:01
WhatIsTheMatrixahhh! i thought you  would have more than one  partition since you were having a strange issue/error06:01
IgniteMeowoh shit06:02
IgniteMeowI deleted it already lol06:02
WhatIsTheMatrixit's ok06:02
WhatIsTheMatrixare they all deleted yet?06:02
IgniteMeowwant me to delete all of them?06:02
WhatIsTheMatrixyes...06:02
RalieghHello, would anyone be able to offer me direct one-on-one assistance with getting a node.js and bash script to auto-restart upon failure, and auto-start on server start? I can pay, it's very high priority for me right now. I've tried both supervisor and upstart but neither work.06:02
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IgniteMeowokay done06:03
somsip_Raliegh: may I suggest a freelancer site like oDesk?06:03
jeffrey_fmarz: The BIOS is very low level instructions to the CPU to process startup tests then to load from the specified media as specified in your BIOS Settings.  The BIOS still has low level control over hardware.06:03
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WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: okay. i don't think you need to reboot. you used to have to when re-partitioning. if you want you can reboot and then do the install. or you can click on the Install Ubuntu icon on the left menu bar on the desktop06:04
IgniteMeowuhh whats with alll these disconnects o.o06:05
WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: don't know. might be having like a 'netsplit' on the irc servers here06:05
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IgniteMeowwait a minute...I hav06:07
IgniteMeowhave 2 partions left..../dev/sda2 and /dev/sda506:07
IgniteMeowit wont let me delete dem D:06:07
WhatIsTheMatrixohhh?!?06:07
WhatIsTheMatrixquit gparted then for the moment06:07
IgniteMeowk06:07
WhatIsTheMatrixin the terminal, try --> sudo cfdisk06:08
WhatIsTheMatrixdoes the install usb have 'cfdisk'?06:08
IgniteMeowokay I did that06:08
IgniteMeowthere is like this...weird stuff06:08
WhatIsTheMatrixokay... it has cfdisk?06:08
IgniteMeowmhm06:08
WhatIsTheMatrixis cfdisk running?06:08
IgniteMeowmhm06:09
WhatIsTheMatrixokay...06:09
WhatIsTheMatrixhang on.. been a long time since i used cfdisk06:09
WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: the actual command should have been   sudo cfdisk /dev/sda   ..but it might be displaying your hard drive partitions anyway even though we didn't put in the  /dev/sda06:10
IgniteMeowyea it is06:10
WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: okay.. good06:11
IgniteMeowshould I delete both of themwith dat06:11
WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: yes06:11
IgniteMeowselect it then switch to delete and enter?06:11
IgniteMeowk06:11
IgniteMeowworked! :D06:11
WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: yep.. use the  arrow keys to  navigate06:11
WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: awesome!06:11
IgniteMeownow do I run install?06:11
WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: yes06:12
WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: looks like you  were having problems that gparted couldn't handle for some reason, but cfdisk did06:13
WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: you should be okay after installing now, i'll bet06:13
IgniteMeowokay. so "The computer currently has Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS on it. What would you like to do06:13
IgniteMeowshould I clck Erase Ubuntu.12.04.3 LTS and reinstall06:14
WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: maybe you should reboot first06:14
IgniteMeowokay closing laptop then :p06:14
WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: okay... that might still be grub in the MBR.. might still say the same thing even after rebooting06:15
sideup66hello room06:15
WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: if it does, then  yes, i'd say yes, erase and reinstall06:16
IgniteMeowokay at da ubuntu loading screen. waiting patiently ;p06:16
WhatIsTheMatrixokay... let it load06:16
sideup66im back with another wireless issue :/ again, it seems that my wireless card now works just fine, however, I cannot seem to get it to recconnect to the network if say, the router goes out without unplugging/replugging the wireless adapter06:16
sideup66it will try to connect but be unsuccessful06:17
IgniteMeowehh the installer crashed06:18
IgniteMeowI'll work on this tomorrow06:18
IgniteMeowbye all D:06:18
IgniteMeowsleepy time.06:18
WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: okay06:19
IgniteMeowthanks whatisthematrix for the help06:19
IgniteMeowwe will continue this tomorrow :p06:19
WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: you're welcome06:19
WhatIsTheMatrixIgniteMeow: sure. you might let the thing load a bit before you select to go into Ubuntu or the installer. but anyway, i bet you'll be able to boot now if you can install06:20
ThomasBWhat is the channel for 14.04 discussion?06:20
WhatIsTheMatrixThomasB: ubuntu+106:20
sideup66also in general, it seems that this device is kinda finicky on the network06:20
ThomasBWhatIsTheMatrix, Thank you!06:21
WhatIsTheMatrixThomasB: you're wlcome06:21
sideup66somtimes itll just drop off for no good reason, also if it loses connection as stated, it wont come back unless the dongle is physically removed from the usb port and reinserted in which wireless function immediately restores and works as advertised06:21
jeffrey_fsideup66: does that dongle heat up at any point or is it temperature pretty much stable?06:22
sideup66in the days the machine ran win7, it would get *ever so slightly* warm, but nowhere near a cause for an alarm, here it actually stays cool to be honest06:23
sideup66and in windows 7 it never had a problem (mom used it, non tech savvy user and I wouldve heard it if otherwise)06:23
WhatIsTheMatrixold usb wireless adapter?06:23
daniel_rahello world!06:24
nearstecho06:24
daniel_raecho 'hello world!';06:25
sideup66did you suspect faulty adapter?06:25
nearsthaha06:25
WhatIsTheMatrixnot really06:25
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jeffrey_fsideup66: how old is the adapter?  Have you tried a different one?06:25
sideup66only one I have, and its fairly new, these adapters are pretty good honestly, and as stated, I believe the issue is software as it ran for a good while under windows 7, before this machine ran linux without incident or connection issue06:26
nearstdo lspci for make it specific ?06:26
WhatIsTheMatrixi got a cheap one not long ago and it seemed to work pretty good. but i still wanted a better and got an Asus N-66. now i get three out of five signal strength bars, instead of just one06:26
daniel_raspanish?..06:27
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WhatIsTheMatrixerrr, three out of four bars i mean06:27
jeffrey_fsideup66: Run  --> lspci |grep net06:28
sideup66my signal is just fine, where this thing will be located is near the router anyway (netgear r6300, DA BEAST :D) so plenty of signal coming06:28
sideup66sure thing06:28
WhatIsTheMatrixnice... i'm a ways from the router here06:28
jeffrey_fsideup66:  Are you too close?  How far away?06:29
sideup66jeffrey_f: all that did was list my internal adapters, this is on a usb dongle06:29
WhatIsTheMatrixcan you disable the internal adapters in your bios?06:30
sideup66matrix: yeah this was about 15 bucks approx, for some reason the netgear would throw hissyfits when the internal one was on, throttled down the entire 2.4 band to 150...yuck, so we bought this guy to get around it06:30
sideup66the wireless, I had disabled earlier today per the instruction of another user via modprobe restricted to stop a conflict between it and the usb device, now the usb device is seen and the other one is just a ethernet adapter06:31
jeffrey_fsideup66: I'm just wondering if you are physically too close to the router or if you have other transmitting devices (cell, cordless, etc) near to your wireless dongle....Signal splash as well as other devices yelling louder than the dongle could cause disconnects06:31
sideup66(normally cranked out 300-450)06:32
sideup66jeffrey_f: its a fair point, i mean i was simulating a disconnect I mean, the router very rarely goes down but in the freak event it does, since this will be mining cryptocurrency, I wont be around to get it going if the link died for whatever reason, it just wont reconnect on its own06:33
sideup66the router is screaming and to be honest, there is no landline in my house and my phone is off06:33
sideup66also only one floor away from the router, it never drops when its on, i had it running in shell for an entire night last night and no issues06:35
WhatIsTheMatrixi don't know much about wireless here really. and really rusty on networking too. i can't be of much help06:36
RalieghWould anyone here be able to explain like you would a child on how to make a proper cron job to backup a specific folder? The documentation is so clutter with the information it's ridiculously hard to keep track of.06:36
nearsti dont see the point with ubuntu related06:37
sideup66ok, thanks for trying :) I do appreciate it06:37
WhatIsTheMatrixsure.. i was just curious about stuff really06:37
WhatIsTheMatrixcouldn't help06:37
sideup66im thinking maybe I can write a clever cronjob to check the lan every minute or so and if its down, just issue an automatic reboot, not a fix but itll work around06:37
sideup66as I said this machine is going to be a bot, so itll be unattended for long periods of time06:38
WhatIsTheMatrixsideup66: someone will probably be able to help more tomorrow. getting late now06:38
jeffrey_fsideup66: Just trying to move away any obvious and common issues06:39
sideup66hm i see06:40
WhatIsTheMatrixtime for bed here. take care all, and good luck06:40
sideup66jeffrey_f: should I get you still the lshw06:40
sideup66so you can see the driver on the adapter?06:40
sideup66and good night matrix06:40
nearstwhat mean machine is goin to be bot?06:41
sideup66and the driver for the dongle is rt8192cu06:41
sideup66nearst: what do you mean? itll be a bitcoin miner :)06:41
sideup66dogecoin06:41
sideup66getting so much wow and currency06:42
sideup66rtl I mean*06:42
nearstah. clear now. lol06:43
somsip_Raliegh: example: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6643888/06:43
sideup66nearst: thats why Im trying to determine this, as stated I wonder if a simple script can be written and thrown in the root crontab...06:44
hellyeahubuntu 13.10 sucks06:46
hellyeahthere are two major problems06:46
gryyes?06:47
YOURBESTFRIENDgo on06:47
hellyeahfirst when you boot your computer sometimes it will drop yo to pure shall di ont know how can i tell06:47
hellyeahsometimes i need to reboot it three time in order to see username and password screen06:47
hellyeahi got blank screen06:47
hellyeahsystem cannot be started correctly06:47
YOURBESTFRIENDyou should file a bug report if there isn't one already06:48
hellyeahif you ask any question i will try to explain clearly06:48
grycheck logs06:48
hellyeahmy english is not good i am sorry06:48
hellyeahsecond of all06:48
hellyeahi am suspending my machine06:48
hellyeahand it cannopt wake up correctly06:48
hellyeahi just have to close my computer from switch and open again06:49
hellyeahthis two problems are really annoying06:49
DF3D2I have lubuntu installed and I have nothing really open and it is using 1.3gb of ram? seems like alot for lubuntu06:49
hellyeahand what is that message kvim disabled by bios06:49
YOURBESTFRIENDhellyeah: do you have enough swap?06:49
hellyeahYOURBESTFRIEND:  i have 1.5 gb swap is it enough06:49
YOURBESTFRIENDhellyeah: if you have 1.5 GB of ram, yes06:50
hellyeahi have 12 gb ram06:50
hellyeahdo i need to have 12 gb swap?06:50
YOURBESTFRIENDnot sure which one of suspend or hibernate actually uses the hard drive06:50
hellyeahguess hibernate use hdd06:51
Richhhm'off06:55
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MarkDaviesHi06:59
Kelloggood eve06:59
MarkDaviesAre rc*.d/ directories still meaningfull in Ubuntu?06:59
MarkDaviesAlso, where can I set the default run-level for Ubuntu?06:59
MarkDaviesI mean, the file /etc/inittab doesn't exist any longer.06:59
Kellogall questions above my pay grade07:00
Kellogi need lamp stack support07:01
somsip_Kellog: just ask the question07:01
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Kelloglamp stack is in place, trying to import an existing .sql database how do i do it?07:03
somsip_Kellog mysql -u {user} -p {database} < file.sql07:04
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Kellogthx07:05
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XATRIXHow can i manage the order of the start scripts ?07:13
somsip_!upstart | XATRIX07:13
ubottuXATRIX: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/07:13
XATRIXok, thnaks07:13
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cvtsdughh anyone here?07:20
cvtsdcvtsx: are you there?07:21
somsip_!anyone07:21
ubottuA high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.07:21
kskkskskRecently i installed remastersys and now i am not able to change plymouth themes. I want windows 7 or any other theme, but now nothing is possible. Only one theme is taking over. that is very simple progrress theme, i installed plymouth manager, also from command line, command coompletes no error but theme is not changing, why?? i m running ubuntu 12.04.307:27
kskkskskLinux ubuntu 3.8.0-29-generic #42~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Aug 14 16:19:23 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux07:28
cvtsdsaberx01: hey man  finally got the znc working ;)07:30
cvtsdSaberX01: finally got znc to work ;) thanks for the help the other day07:30
kskkskskhi07:30
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clypsoHello.07:33
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Apachezany recommended way to resize /boot partition when you use encrypted partition for / ?07:41
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FloodBot1!netsplit07:42
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit07:42
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xroHi, i try to figure out my vpn client does not start... I get "Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"". I installed canberra-gtk-module... Have you an idea?07:46
cvtsdhow do i open a file in command line (vps putty)?07:50
somsip_cvtsd: what do you mean by 'open'?07:51
cvtsdread it07:51
cvtsdsince its a znc log07:51
somsip_cvtsd: use less {filename} or edit it with nano or vi07:51
cvtsdless?07:52
somsip_cvtsd: yes07:52
cvtsdhmm what about nano, i heard of it and i think it comes pre installed on 12.04 server, right?07:52
somsip_cvtsd: it should be07:52
cvtsdhow would i open it with nano07:52
somsip_!info nano precise07:52
ubottunano (source: nano): small, friendly text editor inspired by Pico. In component main, is standard. Version 2.2.6-1 (precise), package size 175 kB, installed size 584 kB07:53
somsip_cvtsd: all command tend to be 'command {filename}'07:53
cvtsdk07:53
md_nfshello all07:54
cvtsdhow can i see the size of the file?07:54
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somsip_cvtsd: ls -la in the directory07:54
md_nfsis there any command to stop multiple cron job without killing and once again start that07:55
cvtsdhow can i see it in megabytes? And thx man ;)07:56
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somsip_cvtsd: ls -lah07:56
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cvtsdthanks man, and is there a "/?" option like in windows cmd. it shows a description of the command and all of its operators07:57
somsip_cvtsd: use the manual (man ls) but usually --help will give a short version07:57
kruxomancvtsd: man ls07:58
helmut_hi07:58
cvtsdthanks, didnt know that. its going to help a ton07:58
kruxomanI like ls -lah07:58
linuxlitethe colors in my terminal is not working07:58
linuxlitei modified the ~/.bashrc long time ago07:59
linuxlitethe force color prompt=yes doesnt work07:59
somsip_linuxlite: what do they do compared to what they should do?07:59
somsip_!bash | cvtsd a primer on bash commands is here08:00
ubottucvtsd a primer on bash commands is here: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal08:00
cvtsdthanks08:00
somsip_kruxoman: I get the idea -h makes a lot of commands into a human readable form.08:01
cvtsdyeah i read that (more of skimmed). retained some of the information08:01
trisquelgnu_hi08:02
cvtsdhow do i ^X ?08:02
cvtsdisnt it alt + x?08:02
klmnooohello08:02
somsip_cvtsd: CTRL with X08:02
RalieghWould anyone care to help me figure out why I can't install node-sass on my Ubuntu 12.04?08:02
klmnoooi think its ctrl x yea08:02
cvtsdo ok thanks man08:02
Ralieghhttp://pastebin.com/yKP9NWyr08:02
RalieghThat's my error log. It's quite prevalent that I get this installed.08:03
trisquelgnu_klmnooo: i have a laptop and it has 2gb ram i was planning to add some more ram, will it enhance the system performance?08:03
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somsip_Raliegh: read the error log. It tells you why08:03
Ralieghsomsip_ I did.08:03
somsip_Raliegh: then you missed it08:04
Ralieghsomsip_ Failed at the node-sass@0.7.008:04
cvtsdtrisquelgnu: probably08:04
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RalieghThat's not exactly helpful.08:04
RalieghPerhaps you could impart your wisdom?08:04
aeon-ltdtrisquelgnu_: well are you currently maxing out ram usage? or using the swap file a lot?08:04
somsip_Raliegh: well, it's quite a poor question. Sort of 'can you read my log for me': Line 3512 2195 error Tell the author that this fails on your system:08:04
trisquelgnu_aeon-ltd: no08:04
somsip_Raliegh: line 3510 This is most likely a problem with the node-sass package,08:05
RalieghYeah, it can't be that it doesn't run on Ubuntu 12.04, as I found ONE thread saying that it compiles fine on this system.08:05
aeon-ltdtrisquelgnu_: how much are you using? in percentage08:05
RalieghSo no, I was asking to find the true problem in the log, instead of just reading the default canned message they give when failing.08:05
klmnoooIt depends on how much ram your laptop is using right now08:05
trisquelgnu_aeon-ltd: but when i try editing a large video file the system takes a lot of time and still shows very little progress and i quit midway. or some times when i open a image with a high resolution then the system freezes for some time08:06
klmnoooThat can also depend on how fast your cpu and vga is08:07
trisquelgnu_klmnooo: ok..08:07
klmnoooBut next time you do that check how much ram is being used08:07
klmnoooif its maxing your ram out then it will help if not its being slowed down by other parts08:07
trisquelgnu_klmnooo: aeon-ltd i have 2 gb ram and intel core i308:08
aeon-ltdtrisquelgnu_: how much are you using in percentage?08:08
cvtsdget a ssd ;)08:08
trisquelgnu_aeon-ltd: well that will fluctutate if i open more resource intensive apps right?08:09
aeon-ltdyes08:09
aeon-ltdwhen you max out your system will write to the hdd in place of ram, that's when you'll need more ram08:10
klmnoooso when it does get slow check it if its full you will know if its the ram or not08:10
trisquelgnu_klmnooo: ok and how can i check it?08:10
klmnoooquite new to ubuntu so idk actualy08:11
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cvtsdhow can i see when a file was last modified?08:11
somsip_cvtsd: ls -la08:11
cvtsdthx man ;)08:12
trisquelgnu_aeon-ltd: how can i check my ram usage when using a resource intensive app?08:12
aeon-ltdtrisquelgnu_: activity monitor, or if you like using the terminal get htop08:12
Apachezwhats the defaultsize of /boot in ubuntu 13.10?08:13
trisquelgnu_aeon-ltd: klmnooo and if both the cpu and ram usage is very high then what should i do?08:13
klmnooothen its not just the ram its both and on a laptop you can really replace a cpu08:14
clypsoHello08:14
klmnoooyour comp is just being overused08:14
aeon-ltdtrisquelgnu_: nothing you can do about the cpu, besides running less stuff that uses up cpu08:14
klmnooobut improving the ram would help but cpu is holding you back also :(08:15
aeon-ltdtrisquelgnu_: more ram would help if ram is the only issue08:15
clypsoHows life everyone ?08:15
klmnooopretty good haha08:15
clypsoGood :)08:15
somsip_clypso: that's more of an off-topic question. Do you have a support issue?08:16
aeon-ltdtrisquelgnu_: if you're editing a lot of video especially in hd then you should consider getting a desktop (or assembling one) for future proofing08:16
klmnooojust installed ubuntu since my windows kinda died08:16
clypsoPlaying with my ubuntu right now.08:16
MarkDavieshow should I install Brother DCP150C on Ubuntu?08:16
clypsoWas just cerious. Any recommended websites for learning on the terminal commands ?08:16
klmnooomark check if the driver for is compatible with lunix08:16
somsip_!bash | clypso08:16
ubottuclypso: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal08:16
clypsoThank you :)08:17
kruxomanCtrl+Alt+T often works too for opening the terminal08:17
MarkDaviesklmnooo: it is as I've installed it once, but I know that if you don't do it the right way, then you can expect problems.08:17
clypsoYes08:18
klmnoooIm not to sure sorry08:19
trisquelgnu_klmnooo: how did yours windows died?08:20
hellyeahubuntu always have some bugs08:21
trisquelgnu_klmnooo: and how will a desktop be better than a laptop?08:22
trisquelgnu_aeon-ltd: how is desktop better than a laptop?08:22
somsip_trisquelgnu_: these general questions are nothing to do with ubuntu support. Can you stay on subject please. Thanks08:22
trisquelgnu_somsip_: ok sure!08:24
klmnooosomsip_ do you know how to open a ppa file?08:25
ikoniaa ppa file ?08:25
ikoniaa PPA is a software repository, not a file08:25
ikonia!ppa | klmnooo08:25
ubottuklmnooo: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge08:25
somsip_klmnooo: like he said :)08:25
klmnoooWell I got a ppa file and installed it08:26
lotuspsychjehow come sudo halt doesnt work and sudo halt -p does?08:26
ikoniaklmnooo: I doubt that very much08:26
klmnooowas following directions from http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/17sov5/08:26
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klmnoooit asks me to open a file but dont know how to do that08:26
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ikoniaklmnooo: where does it say "open a file"08:27
klmnoooOpen hda-jack-retask08:27
ikoniaklmnooo: that's not a file, that's a program08:27
ikoniaklmnooo: that's the program you have installed08:27
klmnooooh how do i do that?08:27
ikoniaklmnooo: it sounds like your experience level should not be doing this08:27
klmnoooI know but i need the sound driver08:27
somsip_lotuspsychje: dodgy alias setup?? (wild stab)08:27
MarkDaviesok, there are two files08:28
MarkDaviesone is CUPS, the other is LPR08:28
MarkDaviesshould I install both?08:28
MarkDaviesWhich of them first?08:28
lotuspsychjesomsip_: dont think so mate, after sudo halt it just freezes at the part it should poweroff( system will now halt)08:28
ikoniaMarkDavies: it doesn't matter, they will both need each other08:28
ikoniaMarkDavies: cups is the printing system (think drivers) lpr is the actual printing commands08:29
somsip_lotuspsychje: oh, like *that*. I had it before and solved it using -p too. No idea why.08:29
ikonialotuspsychje: halt does not power off08:29
ikonialotuspsychje: halt "halts" the system08:29
lotuspsychjesomsip_: oh well, no big deal the -p works08:29
ikoniathat's why -p (power off) is needed to power it off08:30
lotuspsychjeikonia: can you explain in wich cases a halt only is needed?08:30
somsip_lotuspsychje: oh yeah - I added a 'halt=sudo halt -p' alias. That's why I thought it was somewthing alias related08:30
ikonialotuspsychje it's legacy, it's for non-desktop computers, such as enterprise servers that have an obp or pre-boot enviornment08:30
lotuspsychjeikonia: i see tnx!08:30
lotuspsychjei recently fixxed a laptop that had shutdown freeze from regular shutdown button, with something in bios08:32
lotuspsychjenot sure wich option fixxed it, it had a dbus warning08:32
lotuspsychjeare there any gui packages to enable TRIM on ssd from ubuntu?08:35
ikonialotuspsychje: it's 1 word in the fstab....do you really need a gui08:35
lotuspsychjeikonia: the fstab trick is the only thing needed to tweak?08:35
ikonialotuspsychje: you need to do more research before asking questions, it's turning into a spoon feeding channel for you,08:36
lotuspsychjeikonia: i asked if someone know any gui for it, not the solution...08:37
ikonialotuspsychje yes, because you don't know how to enable it08:37
ikonialotuspsychje: hence why I informed you that it's 1 word in the fstab, do you really need a gui application for that08:37
lotuspsychjeikonia: never mind, ill ask another time when more happy supporters are on08:38
ikonialotuspsychje I think you'll find I'm quite happy and I've given you the answer08:38
MarkDaviesUnfortunately this does not work08:38
MarkDaviesHow  can I remove the packages installed?08:38
ikonialotuspsychje: calling people "unhappy" because they are trying to get you to think a littlebit for yourself won't really change08:38
ikoniaMarkDavies: use the package manager interface your confortable with08:38
thedoctarhow do you change the default preedit window position for sunpinyin with ibus. I'm using lubuntu 13.10. The problem is it currently displays at the bottom left-hand corner of the window and when the window is maximised, the window is off-screen.08:38
MarkDaviesikonia: I use a terminal, but how can I know what is the name of the package I installed?08:39
ikoniaMarkDavies you installed the packages using the names, you should know the names you used08:39
thedoctar~/.bash_history is a history of commands you entered08:40
xmetalgood grief08:40
thedoctarthere's probably a log in /var/log for dpkg08:40
thedoctaror apt08:40
thedoctaror whatever08:40
somsip_thedoctar: just type 'history' for future reference08:40
thedoctaroh cool; didn't know that08:40
MarkDaviesI meant that I had a name of the file, not of the package.08:40
somsip_thedoctar: I alias to h as I use it often08:40
MarkDaviesBut I managed to remove the package anyway (it seems).08:40
ikoniaMarkDavies you still need the package name to install it with the gui08:41
thedoctarhistory | grep apt-get08:41
ikoniasorry with the interface08:41
MarkDaviesikonia: usually I don't use gui08:41
ikoniaMarkDavies I just corrected myself and said interface08:41
thedoctardoes anyone know how to change the default position of the preedit window for ibus pinyin?08:41
somsip_thedoctar: in the absence of help here, maybe https://code.google.com/p/sunpinyin/issues/list08:43
thedoctarlol i can't read the chinese; i'm not that good08:45
LiuYanibus-pinyin is not sunpinyin08:45
somsip_thedoctar: I did notice that but assumed you'd be able to. oh well08:46
thedoctarlol :( i'm just beginning to learn08:46
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TJ-MarkDavies: To discover the name of a package containing a known packaged file (as opposed to an application-created file) use "dpkg-query -S $SOME_FILENAME_FRAGMENT"08:48
uuserGot a question on C. Anyone can help? Couldn't find channel on C so asking here08:49
somsip_uuser: try ##c I think08:49
somsip_!alis | uuser08:49
ubottuuuser: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*08:49
MarkDaviesI know that it is possible to install this driver from OpenPrinter driver, but it is included in a driver with a different name08:49
MarkDavieshow can I check which the printer will be suitable for me?08:49
MarkDaviesTJ-: thanks08:49
uuser##c none seems to be active08:49
somsip_uuser: use alis then?08:50
uuserLet me try08:50
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MarkDaviesIt doesn't work... I installed Brother1200... any ideas? :(08:55
TJ-MarkDavies: (that is for already-installed packages). For uninstalled packages you'd need to install "apt-file" then do "apt-file update" followed by "apt-file search $SOME_FILENAME_FRAGMENT"08:55
MarkDaviesTJ-: thanks, but it seems that it is of no use anyway...08:56
MarkDaviesI send a document to the printer, it was in the queue for 3 seconds, then disappeared, nothing's being printed08:56
uuserAlis didn't seem to work.  I'm on phone08:57
ikoniauuser not this channels problem, if the alis bot is not working ask for help in #freenode please.08:58
ikoniauuser: also you never joined ##c - so I don't know how you can say "it's not active"08:59
uuserJust a question on C. May I here?08:59
ikoniauuser: no08:59
uuserI joined but none replies there08:59
ikoniauuser I'm in ##c - you did not join08:59
uuserI meant I joined few minutes earlier currently not in there09:00
ikoniauuser I've been in ##c for months - you did no join09:00
uuserI'll have to register there? What does it mean? I'm new to irc protocol09:02
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ikoniauuser: join #freenode and ask09:03
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linuxlitehello09:03
MarkDaviesBut wait. There is a communication between the printer and the computer! The printer displays "accepting data".09:03
topper4125!hello09:03
linuxlitemy terminal color is still not working guys09:03
MarkDaviesHowever, nothing is printed.09:04
somsip_linuxlite: so what do you expect and what is it doing?09:04
MarkDaviesHow do you think, what may be wrong, what can I check to gain some information?09:04
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thedoctarMarkDavies: lol; is there paper in the printer and ink?09:04
linuxliteit should show color highlighting on nano somsip_09:05
somsip_linuxlite: what language?09:05
somsip_linuxlite: or try the first search result I found: http://askubuntu.com/questions/90013/how-do-i-enable-syntax-highlighting-in-nano09:05
linuxliteenglish09:05
thedoctarlol english09:06
somsip_linuxlite: *programming* language09:06
thedoctarrofl09:06
linuxliteok my bad sorry,php09:06
thedoctari use gedit!09:06
somsip_linuxlite: so, check that link and make sure you have a php.nanorc where it says you should have one09:06
Dathow can I convert my root fs into an LVM?09:06
linuxliteim using leafpad but my eyes are hurting iwant to use nano with colors09:06
ikoniaDat you can't09:06
linuxlitetheres no link09:07
ikoniaDat: a manual migration is the only way, which needs lots of spare disk and skill09:07
Datikonia: :(09:07
thedoctarlinuxlite: try gedit! it's a simple gui text editor with syntax highlighting09:07
alokyadav15Try sublime text09:07
linuxlitesompsip_ icant see the link09:07
linuxlitewell is that gui gedit09:07
somsip_linuxlite: http://is.gd/7JKroK09:07
Datikonia: I'd hate to have to start over09:07
pcpcpcHello, is there any way to change the MOUNT-Passphrase for ecryptfs?09:08
ikoniaDat: that doesn't change what I just said09:08
Datikonia: true I'm going to keep researching that has got to be away09:08
ikoniaDat there is - it requires lots of spare disk and a good skill level09:09
linuxliteill check that out somsip_09:09
ikoniaDat: however to "convert" it - there is no way09:09
alex_hi all09:11
alex_I have installed ubuntu 13.04 and I think I installed the boot loader in the wrong device09:11
alex_how could I install grub on another device manually ?09:11
bekksalex_: USe grub-install09:12
alex_bekks, how to know which one is the device that boots ?09:13
alex_and what's the EFI partition ?09:13
ikoniaalex_ the one you set in the bios09:13
bekksalex_: Whats the actual issue behind all that?09:13
alex_well .. I installed ubuntu on a device and I created an EFI partition of 2 GB09:13
alex_I dunno if I had to create it09:14
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alex_but when I created a new partition table without EFI partition ... the installer told me that could not mount the EFI partion (or something like that)09:14
TJ-pcpcpc: See "man ecryptfs-rewrap-passphrase"09:15
MarkDaviesIf the printer accepts data, but does not print it, is it still possible that something is wrong with drivers?09:16
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elmosanches\part09:17
elmosanches\09:17
TJ-Dat: To convert to LVM, first you'll need sufficient spare space to create a VG and LV container, then bitwise-copy the root-fs into it, update the "/etc/fstab/", "update-initramfs ...", "update-grub", test, then delete the original root-fs.09:18
TJ-Dat: To eventually use the space currently assigned to the root-fs, you'd be best using a temporary 2nd storage device to create the LV on, then replacing the original root-fs allocated space with a LVM PV, add that PV to the VG, mirror the root LV to use the new PV, break the 2nd drive PV from the mirror, then remove the 2nd drive PV from the VG.09:19
TJ-MarkDavies: Yes. You should find a print option to "print to file" or similar language, which usually allows you to investigate the raw data being sent to the printer... but I believe nowadays may often be a PDF capture. In that case you'd need to look at the files in "/var/spool/cups/"09:23
DatTJ-: hrmm I'll have to play with this adding additional space shouldn't be a problem09:23
TJ-Dat: It is reasonably straight-forward if do it step-by-step. The initial copying is the bit that takes the time.09:24
DatTJ-: I need to make sure I get my step by step instructions right09:25
TJ-Dat: I've never used it but just found "blocks" which seems to do it in-place. I'd recommend testing it on dummy data and disk first. https://github.com/g2p/blocks#readme09:26
doggie_freshcan someone tell me how to specify what port you want to use in xchat? for example, 127.0.0.1:666609:26
TJ-doggie_fresh: 127.0.0.1/666609:26
doggie_freshTJ: how do i join the server though? i have tried /server ip:port09:27
doggie_freshand /server ip/port09:27
DatTJ-: I ran across that was a little confused on the modifications I need to make in /etc/fstab09:27
* Dat clones his system09:28
doggie_freshtj do you know how?09:29
TJ-doggie_fresh: "/server irc.freenode.org/6697" just connected me09:29
TJ-Dat: Modification of /etc/fstab is the easiest part of the lot09:30
doggie_freshok i will try but i have tried that, can you do an ip instead of domain09:30
TJ-doggie_fresh: yes; hostnames are converted to IPs anyhow for everything on the 'net09:30
DatTJ-: looks like I just need to add the LVM entry's09:31
doggie_freshi know but i have tried what you tried and its not working09:31
Datim cloning my current system to test on09:31
TJ-Dat: Best to use the UUID ... that will either remain the same, or be easy to discover using "sudo blkid /dev/mapper/$MYVG-$MYLV"09:31
doggie_fresh Looking up 54.XXX.29.XXX/6666 * Unknown host. Maybe you misspelled it? XXX to block out ip09:32
doggie_freshi did /server before it 209:32
doggie_freshany ideas/help?09:33
DatTJ-: so add a new disk, set it to lvm, format it to ext4, mount the new disk, copy the data over to the disk, change the fstab, update the grub config and reboot?09:34
doggie_freshi have tried it with ":" also to no avail09:34
doggie_freshreally annoying09:34
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doggie_freshgot it, if you are curious all you need to do is /server xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx port here09:36
doggie_freshthanks TJ for trying ;)09:36
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Wavesonicsuuhh whats that command, that runs another command, and highlights the changes in the output?09:36
bekksWavesonics: there is no such command. the command you are looking for is "diff" that outlines differences between inputs.09:38
geirhaWavesonics: You want to compare the outputs of two commands? diff -u <(cmd1) <(cmd2)09:40
bekksgeirha: Oh, noted. :)09:41
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TJ-Dat: sorry, was elsewhere. No, a little simpler than that (or it can be). If there is sufficient space to create an equal or larger-sized LV root-fs container, you can do a block-by-block copy of the file-system itself. You'd have to do all this from a LiveCD/USB though since you don't want the original FS to change in any way whilst the copy is performed09:54
Wavesonicsuh whats that command that calls another command repeatedly, and shows u the dif in the output?09:54
DatTJ-: np09:56
thedoctarWavesonics: just loop over diff09:58
DatTJ-: so add a disk, set to lvm, format to ext4, boot into livecd, mount partitions, copy data, change fstab, reboot?09:58
x_hello09:58
thedoctarWavesonics: search bash forloop09:59
x_I had a question: ubuntu had automated disk file chek during use ? because just a few minutes ago my hard disk start to work without any reason09:59
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thedoctarx_: i think when you boot fsck is run  on the partitions10:00
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linuxuser01but only when you boot, right?10:00
TJ-Dat: Assuming a new device with sufficient free space and already using the root account ("sudo -i") which is already partitioned (EFI or MBR): "SIZE=10G; VG=MyVG; NEWDEV=/dev/sdz; OLDPART=/dev/sda2; pvcreate $NEWDEV; vgcreate $VG $NEWDEV; lvcreate --size $SIZE --name rootfs $VG; dd if=$OLDPART of=/dev/$VG/rootfs bs=100M; resize2fs /dev/$VG/rootfs"10:01
TJ-Dat: At that point you would have (bar any typos on my part!) a duplicate  root-fs on the 2nd device10:01
TJ-Dat: You'd set the leading environment variables to the values that make sense in your situation10:02
linuxuser01thedoctar but never during use, right? I not know from where comes so high disk usage10:02
TJ-Dat: You'd want to verify the new copy is identical to the original file-system *before* you wipe the original, of course.10:02
thedoctarlinuxuser01: maybe if something catastrophic happens it might be run? i don't know10:03
thedoctarit's just a guess10:03
linuxuser01thanks you10:03
ozcanesenhey, i have to install windows after 3 years for testing some business stuff, i know windows going to broke grub configuration, what is the easy way to fix it after installation. ubuntu live usb? can you recommend anything else?10:05
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TJ-Dat: For that you can do "mkdir /mnt/{lv-,}rootfs; mount $OLDPART /mnt/rootfs; mount /dev/$VG/rootfs /mnt/lv-rootfs; diff --brief -r /mnt/rootfs /mnt/lv-rootfs; umount /mnt/{lv-,}rootfs"10:05
TJ-ozcanesen: Could you install it into a virtual machine instead of onto the bare hardware?10:06
vocxozcanesen, I think Ubuntu Live CD should do.10:07
TJ-Wavesonics: See "man watch" and look at "--difference"10:07
Dathrmm10:08
WavesonicsTJ-, YES! thats it!10:08
ozcanesenTJ-, i wish but currently i am on very poor laptop so virtual machines is not a good option10:08
skovgaardhey10:09
skovgaardany one able to help me with some keyboard key issue10:09
Dathrmm ok I guess I have some testing to do10:09
TJ-ozcanesen: Ahhh, so yes, take precautions :) What I have done in the past is to simply save the master boot record (512 bytes) which contains the boot-strap code and partition table, and use a LiveUSB image to replace it after the other operating system has installed itself.10:10
DatTJ-: thanks for the info10:10
TJ-Dat: Yes :) ... I've done this stuff countless times so I'm confident to just fire off the commands but you should take precautions ... maybe test it in a virtual machine?10:10
skovgaardreally need some help regarding dead keys on keyboard- anyone who can assist10:11
DatTJ-: yes waiting for my clone to finish10:11
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gordonjcp!details | skovgaard10:11
ubottuskovgaard: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."10:11
thom_rskovgaard, what is your current layout?10:11
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skovgaardubuntu 12.10  - hp 2540 p notepad - layout danish. my issue , none of the keys in working, shiftl - shiftr - crtl - alt gr - right ctrl10:13
TJ-skovgaard: maybe this forum thread will help you? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=180191910:14
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skovgaardi tried to use xkeycaps - - they keys looked to be defined - but they are not registereing if i press them10:17
jimgrothHey guys. I need to forward traffic to another webserver if requested domain is X. What should I use?10:18
jimgrotha webserver in my lan if that makes any dif.10:18
jimgrothboth run ubuntu server10:19
ikoniajimgroth: you can do it many ways, depends on a few things to decidee the best approach10:19
TJ-jimgroth: Depends on the way you want to redirect it. You could use a reverse-proxy, or a simple HTTP redirect10:19
jimgrothI've only got one IP outwards.10:19
ikoniajimgroth: a website redirect on the first webserver, a dns redirect before that, a firewall redirect, a web cache redirect, etc10:19
jimgrothyikes10:20
jimgrothI'm... a noob? :P10:20
ikoniajimgroth: why don't you explain what you want to do and why10:20
Datjimgroth: nginx might be what you want10:21
ikoniaI doubt that10:21
cvtsxhey, just got my znc to work ;)10:21
ikoniawhy would you want ANOTHER web server10:21
jimgrothI've got two servers at home but only one external IP. There is a web server on both but obviously only one is accessible from the outside.10:21
ikoniajimgroth do you want the second server that is not visible to the outside world to be visible to the outside world10:22
afiyahhy10:22
jimgrothikonia, yes10:22
ikoniajimgroth: ok, so you want to "proxy" requests to the second server, but still have them served by the server that is visible to the public internet correct ?10:22
SomeusHello! I have Lubuntu and trying to install Wolfenstein game. I need to run it as root to install.. I found out that root is locked so i used "sudo -i"... but how to go to home folder as root?10:22
jimgrothikonia, I guess so.10:23
TJ-Someus: "cd $HOME" or absolutely, "cd /root"10:23
jimgrothI just want both servers able to serve content on the web with separate (sub)domain names.10:23
ikoniajimgroth ok - so two realistic solutions 1.) do you really need 2 physical servers ? if not migrate the web data from the second to the first 2.) use modproxy on the first server to forward/serve requests from the second server via the first to the public internet10:24
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jimgrothI decided to do it this way to learn something new instead of just treading the path of least resistance (which I tend to do way too often)10:25
SomeusOk thanks!10:25
jimgrothThank you for the tip. I'll read up on modproxy. :)10:25
ikoniajimgroth you'd be learning how to setup a system that pretty much no-one would use in the real world10:25
jimgrothHow does web hosts usually handle these things?10:26
jimgrothlike those large ones with a big bunch of servers.10:26
ikoniajimgroth they don't - they would normally do the sane thing such as a.) assign a second IP to the server, b.) migrate the content to the first server10:27
jimgrothoh.10:27
SomeusWhy just someone doesnt make good OS from linux?10:27
SomeusLike windows..10:27
ikoniajimgroth hence why as solution that no-one would use10:27
Datlol10:27
jimgrothI understand.10:27
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ikoniajimgroth: your solution does have merit to certain web situations, such as distributed applications in a DMZ - but that is a bit more specialist and a more advanced version of what you are doing10:28
TJ-jimgroth: they are not usually restricted to a single IP. Your scenario is, though, similar to one that many organisations address using a Reverse Proxy - that of providing access to private internal HTTP services from a single public HTTP service.10:28
jimgrothMaybe I'll leave these things to when I know more about the subject.10:28
ikoniajimgroth nothing wrong with having a go10:29
TJ-jimgroth: It's a two-line addition to the public host definition; see http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/mod/mod_proxy.html10:29
jimgrothSounds like I should know more about the background to how these things work and why.10:29
jimgrothI really should go back to school10:30
TJ-jimgroth: Here's a real example taken from one of my servers. It shows 2 different services provided by 2 different 'back-end' servers being proxied by a single public-facing Apache HTTPD host: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6644659/10:34
jimgrothTJ-, Thanks. :)10:35
jimgrothI was just reading about it.10:35
jimgrothDoesn't look too complicated but I'm still trying to learn what everything means and not just how to do it.10:35
TJ-jimgroth: practice makes perfect :)10:37
jimgrothI love the attitude in here. In channels I usually frequent it's more often answers like "If you don't know how to do this you shouldn't be trying"10:38
Dattime to see if I can convert my root fs now10:38
home555русский10:41
TJ-Dat: good luck :)10:41
lotuspsychje!ru | home55510:42
ubottuhome555: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.10:42
Datyeah might need it10:42
Datadding a blank disk as we speak10:42
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yam_is this the right place to ask if i got problems running ubuntu on mac? (i tryed searching the web for solutions before)11:03
yam_hi, i installed ubuntu 13.04 on my macbook pro 5.1. Besides a bunch of startup problem, i cant get my wifi drivers to work. I looked up System -> Additional Driver --> activate the broadcom driver. I tested it without installing ubuntu from the dvd and it worked just fine. after is installed it i just cant activate it. it just jumps back to the no driver option. i am not that much of a pro, so please keep that in mind while explaining 11:05
allstarsnorks2Hi guys, I have a question. How do I restore icons that are broken because I have changed files in  /usr/share/icons?11:08
Lopehow can I make my grub pause when I boot? http://codepad.org/d2GLd4w211:16
gordonjcpLope: that should pause11:18
Lucid_LynxI could imagine myself to buy Software using Softwarecenter, but updateing every 6 month is not convenient...11:18
kuninokhi11:18
Lucid_Lynxthe release cycle is to high in my opinion...11:18
ikoniaLucid_Lynx: then don't use it11:18
ikoniaLucid_Lynx: or use an LTS version11:19
Rienzillalts is a good compromise11:19
Lucid_Lynxi just started usin 10.04..11:19
Lopegordon: it does not pause. only if I set a hidden timeout then it pauses11:19
Lucid_Lynxpeace..11:20
LopeLucid_Lynx: thats kind of old?11:21
Lucid_Lynxwhat do you thing of an release every 2 to 5 years..11:22
Lopei dunno. I had a perfectly working linux mint mate 15. then I broke it, now upgrading to 16 and its a mission getting everything working11:24
Lopei'm definitely gonna backup nicely when everything is working11:24
ikoniaLope: so you're using mint not ubuntu ?11:25
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Lopeikonia still deciding11:26
ikoniaLope: is it dual booting at the moment or just one OS ?11:26
ikoniaLope: eg: is the grub from mint or ubuntu11:26
Lopemint is based on ubuntu but has nicer desktop environment (mate) and comes with useful stuff loaded.11:27
ikoniaLope: I'm not asking for your view on mint11:27
ikoniaLope: is the grub provided from mint or ubuntu11:27
Lopejust one boot option11:27
ikoniaLope: is the grub provided from mint or ubuntu11:27
Lopemin11:27
Lopemint11:27
ikoniaLope: then why are you asking in this channel11:27
ikoniaLope: you've used this channel long enough to know it supports ubuntu - not mint11:28
Lopesurely grub is grub?11:28
ikoniano11:28
ikoniaand this channel is not "grub support" - it's UBUNTU support, you know this, you've used the channel long enough11:28
Lopeokay11:28
MarkDaviesLope: what problem do you have?11:28
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ikoniaMarkDavies: a problem not for this channel11:29
Lucid_Lynxand if i buy Software online, i also want to get a paket by DHL..11:30
Lucid_Lynxor UPS..11:31
DJonesLucid_Lynx: Please don't troll11:31
Lucid_LynxDJones..., you are the operator of this room ?11:31
Lucid_Lynxstop bothering..11:31
gordonjcpMint will be good when they start shipping Unity as the default desktop11:31
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inglorhello, during the upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 the upgrade progress stopped11:34
inglorat "Unpacking sysvinit-utils"11:35
inglorany clue of finding what happened?11:35
V3sp3t1l10Hi11:35
inglorThe terminal says: Starting Distributed Compiler Daemon: distccd [OK]11:36
glambertHi can anyone help with squid-deb-proxy?  it dies whenever I run an apt-get update against it11:37
glambertfrom another host11:37
V3sp3t1l10I cannot, sorry11:38
gryglambert, check your logs11:38
glambertService group file /services/squid-deb-proxy.service vanished, removing services11:38
glambertthat's all I see in syslog, gry11:39
allstarsnorks2hi guys, how do i fix broken Ubuntu GNOME icons?11:39
glambertfrom avahi-daemon11:39
gryglambert: ok11:45
glambertif I run "/usr/sbin/squid3 -N -f /etc/squid-deb-proxy/squid-deb-proxy.conf" in terminal, gry, I get a few warnings but otherwise OK and then as soon as I run an apt-get update I get "Aborted (core dumped)" and squid-deb-proxy dies11:53
glambertany ideas?11:53
bgardnerglambert: I'd start by checking ownership on the cache directories.11:56
glambertbgardner, /var/cache/squid-deb-proxy is proxy:proxy11:57
bgardnerglambert: Right, but you started it on the command line as who?11:57
glambertwhich appears correct11:57
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glambertbgardner, if I do a "service squid-deb-proxy start" it's running as proxy11:58
bgardnerglambert: Okay, any clues in the log files beyond 'core dumped'?11:58
glambertand whenever I do an apt-get update from a machine using it as a cache it kills the proxy11:58
glambert> avahi-daemon[21981]: Files changed, reloading.11:58
glambert> avahi-daemon[21981]: Service group file /services/squid-deb-proxy.service vanished, removing services.11:59
glambert> avahi-daemon[21981]: No service file found in /etc/avahi/services.11:59
glamberteverytime in syslog11:59
bgardnerglambert: How did you install squid-deb-proxy?11:59
glambertapt-get afaik11:59
bgardnerglambert: And what is your Ubuntu version?12:00
kskksksk i install kde-minimal package to ubuntu 12.04 LTS, everything is working fine, i installed icon only task manager and opened chrome, and right click on task bar icon and set it show launcher when not running, when i ciick it again to open chrome, it is opening with gedit, how to stop that behaviour12:00
glambert12.04.3 LTS12:00
kskkskski am using KDE 4.8.512:00
kskkskskme too glambert12:00
glambertsorry, I was answering bgardner12:01
allstarsnorks2Is Ubuntu GNOME a Canonical-supported distribution?12:02
bgardnerglambert: If I were you, I'd apt-get remove --purge and reinstall squid-deb-proxy - have you tried that yet?12:02
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MonkeyDustallstarsnorks2  Canonical is the enterprise behind Ubuntu12:02
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glambertif I run12:06
glamberttail -f $(ls /var/log | grep -Ev 'gz|lastlog|fail' | grep log | grep -v \.1 | awk '{print "/var/log/"$1}' ) | grep squid12:06
jacob11guys are there any applications which would show me hard drive usage. not in terms of space but % of rw operations? like windows 8 task manager does12:06
glambertand then do an apt-get update on the other host to kill squid-deb-proxy I get these lines printed:12:06
loki__hello12:06
glambertERROR: apport (pid 22404) Fri Dec 27 12:05:21 2013: executable: /usr/sbin/squid3 (command line "/usr/sbin/squid3 -N -f /etc/squid-deb-proxy/squid-deb-proxy.conf")12:06
glambertERROR: apport (pid 22404) Fri Dec 27 12:05:21 2013: apport: report /var/crash/_usr_sbin_squid3.13.crash already exists and unseen, doing nothing to avoid disk usage DoS12:06
glambertDec 27 12:05:21 xenmanager avahi-daemon[21981]: Service group file /services/squid-deb-proxy.service vanished, removing services.12:06
loki__i want downgrade my ubuntu, and want save home folder12:07
andyfiedfirst back up your home folder12:07
loki__what i need delete in my home folder?12:07
loki__all folder with . at start?12:07
loki__or it is no need to do this?12:07
MonkeyDustloki__  backup ypour homefolder, then reinstall your ubuntu version of choice12:07
loki__=/12:08
loki__i have no  space to do so massive backup12:08
MonkeyDustloki__  do you have a separate /home partition?12:08
loki__i have free space where i want install ubuntu12:09
loki__i have stability problems with current setup12:09
loki__so want use again 12.0412:09
glambertbgardner, do you have any idea what's going wrong based on those log results?12:09
bgardnerglambert: Honestly no - I've not seen that message before.  Hang on a moment.12:11
glambertok thanks12:11
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ubuntugnomeuserHi guys, icons in nautilus are now papers with crosses on them This is after I renamed the gnome theme "gnome2" and the other one as "gnome"12:16
home555#ubuntu-ru12:16
jimgrothhome555, you join channel by typing /join #ubuntu-ru12:17
jacob11guys are there any applications which would show me hard drive usage. not in terms of space but % of rw operations? like windows 8 task manager does12:17
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home555generator master key hdd12:17
home555key: 1121770312:18
gordonjcpjacob11: you mean like transfer rate?12:18
jacob11yeah something like that. Windows task manager shows me 100% usage of hard drive even when PC is idle. I installed ubuntu and I want to check if I can monitor usage from here12:19
ubuntugnomeuserIcons break after renaming "gnome" file to another name and then replacing the "gnome" name with another theme.12:19
KrenairMonkeyDust, I tried rsync overnight but ended up with my new 2TB disk being full. The partition it was copying from was only 400GB...12:20
bgardnerglambert: Are you seeing my pm?12:20
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BluesKajHiyas all12:24
Guest99471ciao12:27
Guest99471list!12:27
ubuntugnomeuserDoes anyone know how to solve my situation?12:28
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ObrienDavedon't do that?12:30
ubuntugnomeuseri just did12:31
cfhowlett!patience|ubuntugnomeuser,12:33
ubottuubuntugnomeuser,: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/12:33
ubuntugnomeuserI have just renamed the default GNOME folder and replaced it with another theme. Now, nautilus gives me a crosses paper icon. How do I fix this while making the icons the same12:36
ikoniaubuntugnomeuser: put the old folder back, get it working first, then move forward12:37
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home555ertyu]\\12:47
ubuntugnomeusergot it working by editing the index file and putting Inherits as the gnome icons12:47
ninociao12:48
firei have installed steam, how can i delete the games inside the stema ?12:49
firefound it :)12:49
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ArunCHi, I'm using Ubuntu 13.10. I am writing a multithreaded app, in which I expect all the threads to bind and listen on a port using the SO_REUSEADDR and SO_REUSEPORT options that were introduced in kernel 3.9.12:52
ArunCBut except one thread, all the other are getting bind error.12:53
ArunCHere is my uname: Linux arun-ubu 3.11.0-14-generic #21-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 12 17:04:55 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux12:53
ezra-sArunC, probably because they are trying to bind to the same address/port, the info you are giving to get help is ridiculous btw.12:55
piglit in windows there is the windows button and then arrow left sets a window on the left side of the monitor and windows button and right arrow sets the active window on the right half of the monitor. How do i do this in linux ?12:56
rijackjust drag it to the edge piglet12:57
rijackfor ubuntu12:57
ArunCezra-s: Please check this https://lwn.net/Articles/542629/13:00
kam270hi  should i create a separate partition  for /boot / home /13:00
ikoniakam270: up to you13:00
ArunCThis feature in the kernel takes out the conventional master slave model in the userspace.13:00
kam270for safety reasons Ive been told separate partition for /home13:01
ObrienDavekam270, I run separate / /home13:02
ezra-sArunC, if you are right and that should work, you could check if that behaviour is enabled in /boot/config-kernel-version file13:03
kam270ObrienDave, ikonia  thanks13:04
kam270brtfs ready yet for home/work laptop ?13:04
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T4bWhen removing files (with rm) the time it takes depends on the number of files and not on the files' sizes, am I right? And 10 hard links of the same file take the same time to delete as 10 different files?13:20
mbroekerT4b, it depends on the number of inodes to deallocate :)13:21
gordonjcpT4b: kind of13:21
gordonjcpT4b: also if you have some magic tinfoil hat paranoia disk scrubber that overwrites deleted files, that *will* depend on file size13:21
gordonjcpT4b: but nobody cares about you or your data *that* much, okay?13:21
sitownIrc newbie here, please be patient :)13:22
sitownI have some issues with my laptop, somebody that can help?13:23
cfhowlett!details|sitown,13:23
ubottusitown,: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."13:23
T4bOkay, going to look up what exactly inodes are, thanks. I don't have this kind of disk scrubber (and I understand why in this case it would depend on file size).13:23
theadminsitown: Just ask your question (preferably in one line, with as much details as possible), if you need to paste long errors/logs, use http://paste.ubuntu.com13:23
sitownOk, thanks13:24
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amitprakashHi, on xubuntu 13.10, I'd install gnome3/gdm13:27
amitprakashHow do I restore back to the default DM with unity?13:27
cfhowlettamitprakash, unity is NOT the default for xubuntu ...13:28
amitprakashI uninstalled gnome-session/shell and set lightdm to default, however on login, I don't see unity panel anymore13:28
Guest33039Hello how's it going? I just installed Ubuntu 13.10 and can't uninstall Amazon no matter where I look can someone help? Why does Amazon  come preinstalled now?13:28
amitprakashcfhowlett, hmm, I had the unity sidebar on it though13:28
cfhowlett!nounity|Guest33039, amazon is NOT installed.  the unity lens is13:28
ubottuGuest33039, amazon is NOT installed.  the unity lens is: Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, from 12.10 an up install the "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" package. From 11.04 to 12.04, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? Se13:28
cfhowlettamitprakash, then you don't have xubuntu as no unity is there13:29
amitprakashhmm13:29
jribGuest33039: what do you mean by "amazon"?13:29
theadminamitprakash: Err, Unity currently runs on top of GNOME, so you will still need gnome-session13:29
amitprakashoh13:29
theadminamitprakash: You can select which desktop to log into in LightDM by clicking a round thingy (normally it has the desktop logo on it)13:30
amitprakashYeah, selected the xubuntu session instead of xfce13:30
glambertbgardner, ping13:31
Guest33039ubottu, ok so if I install "ubuntu-gnome-desktop the unity lens will go away?13:31
ubottuGuest33039: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:31
glambertGuest33039, well, yes, but.. so will your gnome desktop :P13:32
Guest33039jrib, When I installed 13.10 amazon was installed and when I tried to search for things internet search results were showing13:32
cfhowlett!nounity|Guest33039, amazon IS NOT installed.  if you don't want to see amazon results, disable the amazon lens or use a different desktop environment.13:33
ubottuGuest33039, amazon IS NOT installed.  if you don't want to see amazon results, disable the amazon lens or use a different desktop environment.: Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, from 12.10 an up install the "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" package. From 11.04 to 12.04, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "g13:33
theadminGuest33039: You can disable this. Go to System Settings -> Privacy and uncheck the internet search box thing13:33
npocTo4eJIoBeK1Hi all! Is here any russian-speakers?13:34
Guest33039theadmin, Thank you, that is done now. Now I just need to somehow scrap amazon it is still showing in the ubuntu menu and the software manager/synaptic don't have it listed13:34
gordonjcp!ru | npocTo4eJIoBeK113:34
ubottunpocTo4eJIoBeK1: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.13:34
gordonjcpnpocTo4eJIoBeK1: a whole channel of them13:34
Guest33039If I want amazon ill go to amazon.com lol... I dont want it on here13:34
npocTo4eJIoBeK1ubuntu-ru don't work right now13:34
gordonjcp<shrug>13:34
theadminGuest33039: You can remove unity-shopping-lens or whatyoucallit13:34
gordonjcpI find the amazon plugin quite handy13:34
gordonjcpI wish it did Dominos Pizza shopping lens13:35
theadminGuest33039: I am on 12.04 so I can't quite remember13:35
theadmingordonjcp: Heh. That could actually be useful.13:35
sitownIssue: I have a some differrent problems bugs with my Samsung NP540U3C Laptop. I think i need some other drivers, as it drains the battery to fast and gets hotter than with Windows. I would also like to get a hibernation option when putting down my screen and in power options. When closing the lid, the laptop does not go completely into sleep, even though the options do say so. I have tried to use the terminal command for hibernate and this wor13:35
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sitownSpecs http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/pc-peripherals/notebook-computers/ultra-portable/NP540U3C-A01UK-spec, it is the newest version og Ubuntu 13.1013:35
Guest33039theadmin, that's what I upgraded from if I remember correctly amazon was on 12.04 as well but was much easier to make dissapear13:35
Guest33039theadmin, I will try to find the shopping lens13:36
sitownSorry about two posts, but i thought i could press enter to get the next line.13:37
theadminsitown: As for hibernation, see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html13:38
Guest33039theadmin, ok so I did sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping then it said "Note, selecting 'unity-scope-home' instead of 'unity-lens-shopping'13:38
Guest330390 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded." I went back to the ubuntu menu typed in amazon and it is still showing as an installed application.13:38
the-moose-machinhi everyone. i am trying to install cinnamon in my ubuntu 12.04 lts. however on logging into it it says 'Failed to load session "cinnamon"'. Can anyone help? Thanks.13:39
gordonjcptheadmin: you know it13:39
cfhowlett!cinnamon13:39
theadminGuest33039: Eh huh. Just open the Software Centre and search for it, that will be easier13:39
gordonjcptheadmin: we need to find fast food delivery places with a good web API for ordering13:39
TJ-sitown: Can you pastebin the results of: "cat /sys/class/power_supply/BAT*/uevent"13:39
theadminGuest33039: The 12.04 LTS doesn't have online search results at all so fa13:40
theadminThat's why I am waiting for 14.04, 13.10 is kinda... underpolished13:40
sitownTJ-: This? POWER_SUPPLY_NAME=BAT113:41
sitownPOWER_SUPPLY_STATUS=Charging13:41
sitownPOWER_SUPPLY_PRESENT=113:41
sitownPOWER_SUPPLY_TECHNOLOGY=Li-ion13:41
sitownPOWER_SUPPLY_CYCLE_COUNT=23713:41
FloodBot1sitown: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.13:41
TJ-!pastebin | sitown13:41
ubottusitown: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.13:41
Guest33039theadmin, Yeah I really wish I waited so far this is pretty awful, I mean I like it but I don't like preinstalled things like amazon13:41
theadminGuest33039: Eh. You might enjoy another desktop, like Xubuntu or Kubuntu or something, though13:42
gordonjcpGuest33039: then remove it, and pay Canonical some money for the download ;-)13:42
Guest33039I got the online search result thing turned off, nothing worse than trying to type terminal and have Terminator the movie pop up to buy.13:42
sitownOk, sorry13:43
cfhowlettFirst world problem ...13:43
Guest33039gordonjcp, I think ill go back to 12.04 instead13:43
theadminGuest33039: I think you can right-click a scope and disable it, no?13:43
theadminGuest33039: If all else fails, do: gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Lenses disabled-scopes "['more_suggestions-amazon.scope', 'more_suggestions-u1ms.scope', 'more_suggestions-populartracks.scope', 'music-musicstore.scope', 'more_suggestions-ebay.scope', 'more_suggestions-ubuntushop.scope', 'more_suggestions-skimlinks.scope']"13:43
Guest33039theadmin, when i right click it only gives the option to launch13:43
sitownOutput of power supply. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6645441/13:45
sitowntheadmin: going to reboot and checking your solution for hibernating. Thank you13:53
TJ-sitown: Thanks, that rules out kernel bug #60519. I'm looking for other causes.13:54
ubottubug 60519 in meta-kde (Ubuntu) "kde doesn't mount removable harddisk" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/6051913:54
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Guest67731Anyone know how to remove ubuntu one?13:55
cfhowlettGuest67731, remove?  just don't configure or use it ...13:55
Guest67731theadmin, no matter what I do amazon still stays, same with ubuntu one. I restarted the computer and they are both still there13:55
theadminGuest67731: Ubuntu One isn't even preinstalled13:56
TJ-Guest67731: "apt-get remove ubuntuone-client" should cause it and related packages to be removed13:56
sitownTJ-: Ok, thank you:)13:56
theadminGuest67731: There's an installer for it in the menus somewhere, which you can remove by removing ubuntuone-installer13:56
MonkeyDustGuest67731  https://one.ubuntu.com/help/faq/how-do-i-completely-remove-and-reinstall-ubuntu-one/13:56
theadminGuest67731: As for the webapps (Amazon etc, which is what seems you find), you can remove them as well, I think they start wtih unity-webapp13:57
Tonelochmm, Linux live CD's seem to be becoming a thing of the past14:02
Tonelocit's Live Dvd's now14:02
TonelocI had to go for the older version of Ubuntu14:02
Tonelocto get it to fit on a CD14:02
ObrienDave!mini14:02
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD14:02
opticalsJust get a usb stick much easier than messing with dvd's etc14:03
theadminToneloc: Yeah, Ubuntu doesn't do CDs anymore, 12.04 is the last actual CD version. You can also use a USB to install/run live14:03
BluesKajopticals, not all pcs will boot from usb14:03
Toneloctheadmin- yeah, I'm downloading 12.04.3 it's 708MB14:04
opticalsno your right but there are bootcd's which enable you to14:04
TonelocI don't think it will fit14:04
TonelocCd's are 700Mb , correct?14:04
theadmin700-something actually14:04
theadminIt should fit14:04
BluesKajopticals, then what/14:05
npocTo4eJIoBeK1I guesI'll try to explain what I want to do:14:05
npocTo4eJIoBeK1I have a local network with a full-desktop with xubuntu on board, router and old PCbox (video-system was broke down  without any chance to connect any display or something like that) exept video everything works, I want to make from this veteran a file server, with rtorrent and remote control with webgui14:05
Tonelocjust found the cd box- says 700MB - damn it !14:05
sitowntheadmin: I tried the hibernate solution. Copying the text in the howto with: sudo nano /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/com.ubuntu.enable-hibernate.pkla. Restarted my computer, no hibernating option in power settings. I also reopend the file and checked if text was there, and it was.14:05
opticalsBluesKaj, you boot your CD which will allow you to boot from usb14:05
opticalsit's not difficult14:05
TJ-sitown: bug #1210361 affects that model but resolution there appears to have been a faulty motherboard replacement. If it isn't entering sleep (Suspend to RAM) when the lid is closed that can often be caused by an externally connected device failing to suspend correctly, which causes the Linux kernel to cancel the suspend and resume everything. Clues may be found in "var/log/pm-suspend.log". Determining which device isn't suspending requires disconnecting devices14:06
TJ-one at a time and re-testing.14:06
ubottubug 1210361 in linux (Ubuntu) "[Samsung NP540U3C-A01UB] Incorrect battery/power status and missing /proc/acpi/battery" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121036114:06
theadminToneloc: Your CD burning software should tell you if it will fit. That's the only thing I'd really trust :D14:06
sitowntheadmin: Dont know if it was copied in the right location though.  But it should when doing the write out, right?14:07
theadminsitown: It doesn't copy it anywhere, it just opens the file directly. I don't think nano even does backups14:07
Toneloctheadmin- Heck, if I was making a DSL copy- I would be done now!14:07
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Toneloc6 times more to go to complete the download alone!14:07
theadminToneloc: True... But hey, CDs themselves are becoming a thing of the past...14:08
Tonelocyeah, it's just all pendrives I have14:08
Tonelochave given up14:08
Tonelocor can't be used for other things14:08
BluesKajyes , opticals , but why , if you have cds then like ObrienDave suggested , the minimal is probly less problematic14:08
npocTo4eJIoBeK1I imagine what I need to do except some moments:14:08
npocTo4eJIoBeK11)when I start the server, it should not ask for login...14:08
npocTo4eJIoBeK12) choose which one of webgui is better for file server14:08
ObrienDaveToneloc, CD-R/RWs are available with capacities of 80 minutes of audio or 737,280,000 bytes (700 MB)14:08
TonelocI got badly bitten with USB sticks last time14:09
Celphishelo, got a problem with fstab and ubuntu14:09
Tonelocand stopped using them14:09
opticalsBluesKaj, I'm not sure having to only burn one cd to enable you to boot from a usb and then re-use that is better practice14:09
* ObrienDave uses DVD-RW14:09
CelphishI've got a line of "code" in fstab that works like a charm in debian, but when I use it in Ubuntu and then try to access the folder I mount the cifs-share to, it says "permission denied"14:09
g3kyAnyone here with a hybrid ATI/Intel Graphic Card?14:10
opticalsBluesKaj, theres already enough media in landfill without adding more for every version of an operating system that comes out14:10
BluesKajopticals, this new laptop wouldn't boot from usb with unetbootin , when I tried to install kubuntu14:11
opticalsBluesKaj, thats why I'm suggesting you look at burning something to *one* cd that will allow you to continue to install from usb. It's not difficult14:12
BluesKajI usually do a netupgtrade from an existing OS14:12
PURPLERAINHey, recently X uses 90% cpu? making my laptop unusable. any solutions?14:13
opticalsBluesKaj, but that doesnt work if you wanted to install a different version of linux or whatever other operating system you want to use14:13
BluesKajopticals, and I use cdrws and dvdrws14:13
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TJ-Toneloc: You could burn a netboot ISO image, and then install the full desktop suite using "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" (See http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/precise/)14:13
opticalsdipedup0, nice do you kiss your mother with that mouth14:14
dipedup0BluesKaj: use an old version of unetboot. The new versions have that non bios booting defaulted to14:15
BluesKajI don't use many other distros ...tried a lot , but kubuntu is my standard and fav OS14:15
opticalsYou may not14:15
dipedup0opticals: you foul dirty mouth14:15
TJ-PURPLERAIN: Is that from a fresh clean boot? If so, have you tried analysing the running processes with (at a shell terminal) "top" ?14:15
opticalsdipedup0, grow up will you14:15
ObrienDave!ops | dipedup014:16
ubottudipedup0: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!14:16
opticalsdipedup0, will you knock it off14:16
mamedhay guyz. where can i find apt-offline for windows14:16
theadminRemove dipedup0, I got a random offensive message from it as well14:16
Myrttihm14:17
LjLuh14:17
opticalsthank you14:17
foofoobarHi. I have a laptop which is connected to an external display, keyboard and mouse. The lid is closed, how do I set him to "sleep" now so I can wake him up later by pressing a key?14:17
LjLare we sure the right person was targeted?14:17
ObrienDavethanks14:17
theadminLjL: Was PM here14:17
LjLah14:17
opticalsyes LjL14:17
foofoobarI tried "sudo pm-sleep" and "sudo pm-hibernate", but both times I cant wake him up with the keyboard14:17
ObrienDaveyes: dipedup0> DVD rw you godamn faggot14:17
PURPLERAINTJ-: It is random, sometimes from clean boot sometimes after waking up from suspend. yes i get the figure from top.14:17
LjLmaybe best to explain what's going on in the !ops call, when it's PM14:17
BluesKajopticals, you were just as offensive14:17
TJ-foofoobar: Is the external keyboard USB?14:17
foofoobarTJ-, yes14:18
foofoobarIts attached via USB.14:18
foofoobarWhen I connect everything and then close the lid, the laptop goes to sleep. Pressing a key then wakes him up14:18
foofoobarbut when he is woken up then and I want to send him to sleep again, how can I do this?14:18
opticalsBluesKaj, stay out of it unless it's you14:18
foofoobarI dont want to open/close the lid again14:18
TJ-PURPLERAIN: That would suggest there might be something related to a profile. I'd suggest creating a new emtpy profile and logging in to that, and testing. If the load goes away you now know it's user-profile related; if not, it's a system-wide issue.14:19
TJ-foofoobar: On some laptops not all USB ports get the 5V standby power supply; You may need to test the USB ports to discover which (if any) do. It could also be a firmware/BIOS configuration that enables/disables it14:20
BluesKajopticals, yeah right, read the COC please.14:20
jhutchinsTJ-: Strange thing is it seems to work correctly when the hinge switch haibernates it.14:20
sitownTJ-: Thank you. I tried to use the command in terminal: sudo var/log/pm-suspend.log also with nano. But it does not show anything. The weird thing is that using the hibernate command in the terminal makes the laptop go instantly into hibernation and quickly up again when pushing the power button. So this means there is not any devices stopping the sleep mode. Anyway, if i get help re-enable the hibernating option i Power options, then this woul14:20
opticalsBluesKaj, look stay out if it14:21
PURPLERAINTJ-: if this is system-wide issue, what do you suggest me to do?14:21
TJ-sitown: I didn't recommend you edit the log-file! I was giving you its location. To read it at terminal use, for example, "less /var/log/pm-suspend.log"14:21
opticalsBluesKaj, you werent just attacked racially so please. shut. up.14:22
BluesKajopticals,look where , I saw your offensive post and made a comment '14:22
LjLoh god what's going on now14:22
sitowntheadmin: If the file was not there before, i create it with nano, right? So if the solution does not work i should delete it, right?14:22
opticalsBluesKaj, look this isnt the place for this if you want to talk to me via pm about it I will do but please shut up about it now14:22
TJ-PURPLERAIN: That sounds like a driver issue with-in the X libraries or the compositor. Harder to track down.14:22
BluesKaj!COC |  opticals14:22
ubottuopticals: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct is a community etiquette document to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere | http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct  | For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct | Watch http://static.screencasts.ubuntu.com/videos/2010/12/22/004-SigningCoC.ogv14:22
theadminWoah, calm down people, please get back on topic. The offensive person was already removed, no need to replace him14:22
BluesKajtheadmin, not quite14:23
TJ-jhutchins: Were you referring to foofoobar's issue? I'm getting lost :)14:23
LjLBluesKaj, opticals: take it to PM if you have to bicker14:23
jhutchinsTJ-: Yes.14:23
Guest40106.14:25
rijackon empathy when I click on a contact all the options except chat are grayed out. I've checked and all my codecs are installed. I looked on the internet for other dependencies but didn’t see any. What else can I try?14:25
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grammoboyhow do I get to sound settings via command line?14:26
TJ-foofoobar: jhutchins: I misunderstood the problem. Which version of Ubuntu is it?14:26
grammoboyis there a pulseaudio gui?14:26
LjLgrammoboy: like, the mixer? you can try "alsamixer" but that's not PulseAudio-based. there's probably something PulseAudio too, but i don't know (pamixer maybe?)14:26
ObrienDavepavucontrol14:27
theadmingrammoboy: pavucontrol is good14:27
LjLah right14:27
LjLwell that's not very command line though, is it?14:28
xanguarijack what protocol¿14:28
theadmingrammoboy: If you need a CLI mixer, just use alsamixer. It's not pulse, but it sets the volume just fine14:28
InstallGentoo_grammoboy: pacmd14:28
rijackxangua I'm pretty sure all of them but I'm concerned with Gtalk14:29
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xanguarijack: I have the same issue with pidgin, gtalk is now hangouts and is gettins away from xmpp14:32
BluesKajtoo bad he left , pulse is needed for webaudio on most installs14:32
sitownTJ-: Sorry about that, i have a lot to learn about the linux world, and other things also ;) This is to much for me to interperet, but maybe it says something to you:14:32
sitownhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6645659/14:32
TJ-foofoobar: Try using the dbus method as a regular user: "dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest="org.freedesktop.UPower" /org/freedesktop/UPower org.freedesktop.UPower.Suspend"14:33
sitownTJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6645659/14:34
TJ-sitown: Looking... OK, you've only pasted the first screen-full. To pastebin the entire file use "pastebinit /var/log/pm-suspend.log". If you get "command not found" then install it using "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" and then try again. Makes it easy to pastebin *text* files14:34
theadminsitown: Note: a Word document is *not* a text file. Common misconception.14:35
rijackok so does that affect sendfile as well? Also i have the same prob with my facebook friends but I think thats something face book specific14:35
liam__is there a way to migrate settings from xchat into smuxi14:36
theadminliam__: Unlikely14:36
theadminxchat -> hexchat could work but an entirely different client wouldn't14:36
liam__OK14:37
jhutchinsDec 27 00:00:03 b06r6s-sts01 sudo: transfer : TTY=unknown ; PWD=/datatrans/transfer ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/sbin/sysctl -w net.ipv4.tcp_window_scaling=014:37
jhutchinsDec 27 00:00:05 b06r6s-sts01 sudo: transfer : TTY=unknown ; PWD=/datatrans/transfer ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/sbin/sysctl -w net.ipv4.tcp_window_scaling=114:37
jhutchinsDec 27 01:00:03 b06r6s-sts01 sudo: transfer : TTY=unknown ; PWD=/datatrans/transfer ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/sbin/sysctl -w net.ipv4.tcp_window_scaling=014:37
jhutchinsDec 27 01:00:06 b06r6s-sts01 sudo: transfer : TTY=unknown ; PWD=/datatrans/transfer ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/sbin/sysctl -w net.ipv4.tcp_window_scaling=114:37
jhutchinsDec 27 02:00:15 b06r6s-sts01 sudo: transfer : TTY=unknown ; PWD=/datatrans/transfer ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/sbin/sysctl -w net.ipv4.tcp_window_scaling=014:38
FloodBot1jhutchins: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.14:38
jhutchinsDec 27 02:00:17 b06r6s-sts01 sudo: transfer : TTY=unknown ; PWD=/datatrans/transfer ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/sbin/sysctl -w net.ipv4.tcp_window_scaling=114:38
theadminwoah14:38
theadminjhutchins: Please use pastebins14:38
LjLjhutchins: uh like14:38
sitownTJ-: Great, thank you. :http://paste.ubuntu.com/6645697/14:38
LjLjhutchins: are you seriously still pasting? ;(14:38
LjLjhutchins: maybe better off parting/quitting and rejoining, than waiting for it to end14:39
jhutchinsSorry, had that in the buffer and hit the wrong button.14:39
LjLjhutchins: happens14:39
jhutchinsI'm just glad I didn't have a password database in the buffer!14:40
ObrienDavelol14:40
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LjLjhutchins: heh i was thinking just the same just now14:40
jhutchinsWe are having trouble with a file transfer.  Last time we fixed it by having the script turn window_scaling off, so we wanted to see if that was still working.14:40
jhutchinsClearly it is being toggled correctly, so the problem is something else.14:41
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osbinwith wine version is most stabille?14:41
osbinopen gl didnt works how to check?14:42
ObrienDaveprobably the one in the repos. tends to work that way14:42
TJ-sitown: OK, lets focus on this suspend issue. I'm going to give you a command to type at a terminal. If successful, it'll suspend to RAM. I'll know it worked because you'll disappear from IRC. I'll wait for you to re-connect after resuming in that case.14:42
MonkeyDust!wine | osbin14:42
ubottuosbin: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu14:42
theadminosbin: 1.6.1, which the website tells you. However, note that wine isn't "stable" by definition. It will never work as well as Windows does (unless Windows stops being developed)14:43
TJ-sitown: You can copy-paste this command to a terminal shell: dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest="org.freedesktop.UPower" /org/freedesktop/UPower org.freedesktop.UPower.Suspend14:43
osbin<theadmin> thanx for info :)14:43
theadminTJ-: Didn't he have an issue with adding hibernation to the power menu, and not suspension?14:44
TJ-theadmin: "...When closing the lid, the laptop does not go completely into sleep, even though the options do say so..." ... almost the same as foofoobar's issue, but not quite, as pm-supend.log shows nothing amiss.14:44
osbinone more question how to check or video driver installed?14:45
theadminTJ-: Oh, whoops, must have missed stuff14:45
theadminTJ-: Sorry14:45
sitown1TJ-: So that was interresting?14:45
theadminosbin: That question doesn't even, if you have a video display working a video driver *is* installed14:45
TJ-theadmin: You're correct though, the wording suggests the options are missing. I'm trying to prove it works first - which should imply the GUI tools would detect availability and appear to the user.14:46
TJ-sitown: Tell us?14:46
sitown1TJ-: it worked perfectly.14:46
TJ-sitown: Good to know something is working :)14:47
theadminsitown: Maybe the lid closing isn't detected?14:47
theadmin(that'd be... quite strange though, but I actually had that happen)14:47
TJ-sitown: OK, so now we can focus on higher issues. Did you say that the suspend option does *not* appear in the power menu?14:47
bhaveshI have Ubuntu GNOME 13.10, but now I want back unity, I installed it with sudo apt-get install unity, now when I try to open unity tweak tool, it says "schema com.canonical.desktop.interface not found"14:48
TJ-theadmin: sitown: Actually not so strange, if the lid open/close event isn't being passed for some reason.14:48
bhaveshwhat should I install to meet the dependency?14:48
FlatsMy NM-applet seems to have disappeared.  I still have network but no applet.  Can anyone help me try to get it back please?  thanks14:48
TJ-theadmin: Looks like sitown is testing it again :)14:48
theadminFlats: Terminal -> nm-applet &disown14:49
Flatsholy crap, that was easy.  Many thanks theadmin14:50
theadminFlats: No problem14:51
Flatswell 1 more problem, once I close the terminal it goes away14:51
bhaveshUnity tweak tool says schema not found com.canonical.desktop.interface when I try to open it in Ubuntu GNOME 13.10, what dependency should I install to fix it?14:51
theadminFlats: Er. You did type &disown, right? With one ampersand, not two14:52
ObrienDave!patience | bhavesh14:52
ubottubhavesh: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/14:52
Flatsnm-applet $disown14:52
Flats 14:52
TJ-bhavesh: I *think* "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" should ensure everything required is installed14:52
theadminFlats: That's a dollar14:52
theadminFlats: Needs an ampersand, &14:52
bhaveshTJ-: okay, ty14:53
theadminFlats: Just paste this in: nm-applet &disown14:53
Flatsminor details.   hehe thanks again.  now I just need to learn my characters14:53
theadminbhavesh: Is this tweak tool a third-party product? It sounds to me that the Unity settings format changed and it can't understand the new one14:53
hipitihop_is there a way to configure x output to hdmi using remote ssh terminal14:53
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bhaveshtheadmin: yes, I installed unity tweak tool from the ubuntu software center14:54
theadminAh. Hm.14:54
theadminI'm not too sure though, I haven't used it, but that's what the issue sounds like14:54
giovanni123qualcuno parla italiano?14:55
theadmin!it | giovanni12314:56
ubottugiovanni123: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)14:56
giovanni123grazie14:56
MarkDaviesWhat is the central point of PAM?15:04
MarkDaviesTo authenticate a user often?15:05
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Guest83034hi duuudes15:06
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MarCeLinHow:D15:06
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sitown1TJ: theadmin: The suspend option is available through power options. Hibernation not. The close lid worked when i had W8 innstalled. I took a timeout playing Tetris, sorry about that ;) I will test if the suspend by time does work, but i am pretty sure it does not.15:15
jhutchinsMarkDavies: Pluggable Authentication Modules.  Multiple configurations possible using different criteria and resources.15:15
ceed^Ubuntu's kernel repo is down? I can not get to: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/15:15
TJ-sitown1: OK... Hibernation was removed as an option some time ago due to problems with it and hasn't yet been re-introduced.15:16
MarkDaviesjhutchins: yes, but can you give me one practical example where PAM turns out to be advantegous?15:16
MarkDavies*advantageous15:17
hipitihop_is there a way to force hdmi video out. I'm trying to re-establish a previously working box which had hdmi cable disconnected/reconnected while running, then after restart it no longer outputs to hdmi15:17
TJ-sitown1: See bug #81239415:17
ubottubug 812394 in Ayatana Design "Disable hibernate option by default" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81239415:17
OerHeksceed^, not sure if it is down, but https://launchpad.net/~kernel-ppa/+archive/ppa is empty15:17
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TJ-hipitihop: Is it a GUI or terminal-based system? For a GUI, open a terminal session and try "xrandr -q" to determine available outputs. "xrandr" with other options can be used to control outputs15:18
ceed^OerHeks, I've been to that URL many times. last time last night, but now It won't connect.15:18
OerHeksceed^, here too, but what is the use of it, as it is empty?15:19
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sitown1TJ-: I actually knew that, not bad.. ;) I tried the solution that :theadmin suggested, but it did not bring hibernation option back. It works by using a similar command in the terminal too.15:19
ceed^OerHeks: It was not empty last night! :)15:19
TJ-ceed^: Yes, the host is down15:19
ceed^T3, ah ok. So it's the server then. Thanks.15:20
TJ-sitown1: Hmmm, remind which version of Ubuntu you're using15:20
hipitihop_TJ-, it's actually a mythbuntu/mythtv so it is gui, uses xfce, but now, not even boot/bios shows during startup... but box runs fine and I can ssh in, but have no other screen easily acessible to box15:20
gvohipitihop_: I have a monitor that switches from hdmi to vga when the hdmi cable is disconnected and has to be manually (menu on monitor) reconnected to the hdmi port.15:20
sitown1TJ-: The newest 13.10, updated15:22
TJ-sitown1: OK, because the user interface has changed in many places which may affect availability of the option15:22
hipitihop_gvo, this is hdmi -> lg tv, although also running through new onkyo av receiver15:22
gvoOK just a suggestions.15:23
gvosuggestion.15:23
TJ-hipitihop: First test the HDMI output direct... Is the HDMI output from a discrete video adapter or port on the motherboard (Wondering about graphics card being unseated physically) ?15:23
InstallGentoo_http://kernel.ubuntu.com down?15:24
TJ-sitown1: Is the swap partition large enough to contain a hibernate image?15:24
OerHeksInstallGentoo_, looks like it is, join the club15:25
MonkeyDustInstallGentoo_  yes, seems so, i guess we'll soon read why15:25
XATRIXGuys, can i install jre-32bit on ubuntu x86-64 ?15:26
ikoniaXATRIX: you can but why would you ?15:26
hipitihop_TJ-, I can only interect from an ssh session with -X and running "xrander -q" seems to be giving me the local system, not the box I am sshed to15:26
InstallGentoo_MonkeyDust: argh, I need some Ubuntu ureadahead patches for my Gentoo15:26
InstallGentoo_MonkeyDust: is there a mirror?15:26
bhaveshdoing sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop solved the schema com.canonical.desktop not found error15:27
bhaveshthanks to the person who advised me to do so.15:27
sitown1TJ-: it is 4GB, 6GB ram. I would believe so. It works great with using the command in terminal to hibernate, just as suspend in terminal.15:27
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XATRIXikonia: my iKVM software, doesn't want to work with 64bit java ?15:27
XATRIXikonia: my iKVM software, doesn't want to work with 64bit java !15:27
ikoniaXATRIX: that seems unlikley15:28
TJ-hipitihop: If you're forwarding the X session that would make sense :) You'd need use the 'xrandr' option "-display" to specify which X server to talk to15:28
XATRIXikonia: no no... i've already tested it.15:28
XATRIXI'm surr 100%15:28
ikoniaXATRIX: then it's exceptionally poor software, install your 32bit JRE and move on15:29
XATRIXIf i run it on my jre-64 "This future is unsupported on this platform"15:29
XATRIXand 32 bit version, goes ahead15:29
TJ-sitown1: That is a good sign... usually it is best to ensure the swap partition/file is larger than installed RAM since if the RAM is fully committed hibernation will fail.15:29
MonkeyDustInstallGentoo_  better ask in #ubuntu-kernel, i guess15:29
XATRIXikonia: How can i do it on my Ubuntu 64bit ?15:29
jhutchins!multiarch15:29
TJ-sitown1: So it sounds like a user interface issue with Unity interactions.15:29
ikoniaXATRIX: peraonally I'd just grab the binary - put it somewhere safe/seperate such as /opt and run it15:30
XATRIXia32-libs ?15:30
ikoniaXATRIX: no15:30
MrJeromeOccasionally on 13.10 when I move my mouse to resume from a locked session, one screen (I'm running 3) will show the password box like normal, but then one of the other screens will show it's contents (whatever console or application I have open). Is this a bug?15:30
jhutchinsI remember ubottu being one of the more useful bots on IRC, but it seems to be missing a bunch of essential items these days.15:30
septixhi guys, is it nessecary to run badblocks for checking hdd when dcfldd overwrite without issues?15:30
ikoniaXATRIX: I'd grab the 32bit binary - not package and put it somewhere safe such as /opt as multi-arch is not a good implementation in my view15:30
ikoniajhutchins: what's it missing ?15:31
glambertdoes anyone know of an IRC chat regarding load balancing?15:31
ikoniaglambert: ##networking ?15:31
jhutchinsikonia: A multiarch link in this case.15:31
TJ-MrJerome: I see that too! Thought it was a KDE-specific issue15:31
glambertI'll try, thanks15:31
ikonia!multiarch15:31
sitown1TJ-: Ok, if the graphics driver is not working that good, will this affect the link between Unity and the command?15:31
ikoniajhutchins: feel free to write a factoid15:32
ikoniajhutchins: happy to put it into the bot15:32
TJ-sitown1: No... a missing option is a pure user interface issue where it either doesn't have the option, or doesn't detect the set of conditions necessary for it to show the option15:32
jhutchinsikonia: Problem is I know the details for Debian, not Ubuntu, and I don't know if they're the same.15:33
ikoniajhutchins: a fair point, I'll see if we can get one put in15:33
hipitihopTJ-, I thought as much re forwarded -X but fluffing with -display I am not familiar with, can you point me a doco, sorry to be a rookie in this area15:33
jhutchinsikonia: Thanks.15:33
MrJeromeTJ: what is your video card?15:33
TJ-hipitihop: "man xrandr"15:36
TJ-MrJerome: Nvidia GPUs15:36
sitown1TJ-: Ok, so this means it is nothing more to do than wait for this to be resolved in the next version then? Is it needed to write a bug?15:36
MrJeromeTJ: I'm seeing it on ATI15:37
Dougie187Anyone have any idea why a microphone in line would have static/noise on it? and/or how to clean it up?15:37
TJ-sitown1: I suspect #812394 is meant to cover it. Are you using encryption of any kind on the disk?15:38
MrJeromeTJ: Do you think it's worth submitting a bug?15:38
TJ-MrJerome: I do... I was going to before the holidays but couldn't decide which package to post it against. I had thought it was a KDE issue, but obviously not.15:38
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enen92anyone having troubles with latest skype installation? I'm able to install the program and it gets into unity. However I can't list it under software center whch means everytime I reboot my laptop I get no skype at all15:40
MrJeromeTJ: I haven't done a bug report before. Would you mind doing it if you already have an account?15:40
TJ-MrJerome: I doubt there are many of us using such 'complicated' configurations, and from my experience the GUI developers rarely work with multi-heads themselves!15:40
hipitihopTJ-, sure, but how do I know what name to use in the -display arg15:40
splitpchi15:40
MrJeromelol15:40
TJ-MrJerome: I will once I can identify the package where the bug exists. I'm guessing its screensaver related.15:40
jhutchinsTJ-: Every developer I know uses at least two screens if not more.15:41
MonkeyDustenen92  you don't need it anymore in software center, after it's installed... or what do you mean...15:41
splitpcWhy most linux distributions boots without powering on the screen?15:41
sitown1TJ-: This bug is only one of more bugs. As i remember now: The battery indicator is slow to change status, the touchpad is sensetive and the palm detection while writing is not working. The laptop seems to get warmer and less battery time than with W8. Problems with some router connections and if i do get to far away, even though signal strenght is ok. Will be back in 10mins.15:41
jhutchinsTJ-: One screen shows the code in the debugger, another shows the result.15:41
jhutchinssplitpc: Not true.15:41
splitpcI only noticed a startup sound15:42
enen92I''ll reboot and see if it's installed right this time15:42
enen92it was about the 10th time I installed this piece of crap15:42
sitown1TJ-:No encryption.15:42
TJ-jhutchins: I had interactions with several free desktop devs over the past years over various multi-head bugs I worked on, and was surprised/shocked at how many never tested their patches against a multi-head configuration.15:42
splitpcNo command prompt, no X.15:42
MrJeromeTJ: Ok cool, I'd really like to see it fixed. I'm running 2 30"s with a vertical 24" in the middle15:42
splitpcvery strange uh15:42
TJ-sitown1: I'm not sure then; You need a developer/user familiar with the recent power management user interface code15:43
jhutchinsTJ-: Oh, well, now TESTING, that's for users.  Developers are above all that.15:43
cigritshey im having a problem installing ubuntu 12.04 net install from unetbootin. after selecting the repo archive it just stalls, sits a blank purple install screen. if i cat /var/log/syslog the last few lines are : "line is :Dec 27 10:35:36 net-retriever: gpgv:" <NEXT LINE> "net-retriever: good signature from "ubuntu arachive automatic signing key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>"   <NEXT LINE>  "Dec 27 10:35:36 net-retriever:"15:43
TJ-MrJerome: I'm running 6 over 2 GPUs15:43
MrJeromeTJ: Nice15:43
splitpcThe laptop uses a Intel hd 4600 and hashwell i515:43
jhutchinscigrits: What's the longest time you've given it?15:43
cigritsum 10min now15:44
cigritsive tried more then one repo15:44
splitpcbut screen is off. I happens on PCLinux, Fedora, Suse.15:44
jhutchinssplitpc: ssh?  Ctrl-Alt-F1?  Boot to rescue/single user?15:44
splitpcjhutchins: no working15:44
splitpcscreen is off15:45
cigritsa few weeks ago i had the same issuse on a completely different rig.  had to download the full install iso.15:45
cigritsalso i should mention it was at a different location as well15:46
cigritsalso the other box was i386 this is i386_x6415:46
WhatIsTheMatrixi think you mean x86_6415:47
splitpcjhutchins: HDMI output is working15:47
cigritswhatisthematrix: yes15:47
splitpcbut laptop display is not15:47
WhatIsTheMatrixrgr15:47
OerHekssplitpc, most laptops have a FN key to switch laptopscreen/extern screen/ both15:48
jhutchinssplitpc: Bet it works if you power up without the hdmi connected.15:49
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KrenairI'm trying to copy most of my files from / (which is on a 400GB partition) to a new hard drive15:49
KrenairThe new hard drive is 2TB15:49
splitpcjhutchins: That was i had done. I have plugged in after hearing a "booting"sound15:50
KrenairSomehow it has already eaten up 800GB15:50
KrenairHow is this possible?15:50
cigritsoh snap it just worked. i just had to wait 15minutes15:50
splitpcOerHeks: FN keys are not right configured15:50
home555руский15:50
WhatIsTheMatrixcigrits: congrats! i hope15:51
ObrienDave!ru | home55515:51
ubottuhome555: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.15:51
jhutchinsKrenair: Are you running from the same system you're doing the copy with?15:51
Krenairyes15:51
OerHekssplitpc, FN keys are hardware connected15:51
jhutchinsKrenair: Don't do that.15:51
jhutchinsKrenair: Boot to some other media - live CD, clonezilla, etc.15:51
JazayriAny idea about compiling numpy 1.8 for python 2.7 http://pastebin.com/rECgHDG6 thank you all15:52
Krenairwhat15:52
Krenairwhy15:52
splitpcNo working15:52
splitpcAlso touchpad is not working15:52
OerHeksKrenair, if you copy /dev/urandom/ too you would need more than 2 Tb15:52
Krenairah.15:52
splitpctouchscreen is bad calibrated15:53
Krenairthis is with "sudo rsync / /media/AlexsNewDrive/UbuntuBackup2013-12-26 --exclude=/media/* -azvv"15:53
splitpcwifi switcher are not workin also15:53
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KrenairOerHeks, shouldn't the -a deal with device files properly?15:54
husnainlatifwhats this panel with all the icons on the left side called?15:54
jhutchinsKrenair: No need for compression if it's local.15:54
jhutchinsKrenair: No.  There are other problems as well.15:54
kam270husnainlatif, you can call it a dock ?15:55
husnainlatifcan i move it to the right side?15:55
sitown1TJ-: So what should i say i have tested/ruled out if i ever get more help?15:55
kam270yeah i reckon so. I prefer cairo dock though15:56
Krenairjhutchins, okay.... what other problems?15:56
splitpcI use a HP Split x215:56
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MrJeromewhat should I use to send keys to an open window/program? I'd like to write a little script that opens a program from a terminal, sends a series of keyboard inputs, and then closes the program.15:58
enen92managed to solve the skype issue by installing it through canonical partners repository and not the .deb version in skype website.Thanks anyway16:00
alecjwHi, I'm trying to format a partition in FAT32 but whenver I try it says device or resource busy. The partition isn't mounted16:00
alecjwAnyone have any suggestions?16:01
arrowspaceanybody know what to make of this error message?  http://tinyurl.com/bladepicirc16:01
jhutchinsKrenair: Is it working the way you expected it to?16:01
Krenairjhutchins, well I haven't rebooted to do it from a live CD16:01
ObrienDavealecjw, how bit of a partition? larger than 2.12TB?16:02
ObrienDave*big16:02
jhutchinsenen92: That is the correct approach.16:02
Krenairjhutchins, I was kind of waiting to see if it would work if I excluded /dev/16:02
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Krenairjhutchins, and for you to tell me what the other problems were16:02
alecjwObrienDave: nope, 2GB.16:02
jhutchinsKrenair: What about /proc /sys and /var?16:02
Krenairjhutchins, what about /var ?16:02
WhatIsTheMatrixalecjw: have you tried 'fsck' on it? maybe it has some errors that need fixing16:03
enen92jhutchins can you explain what is the main difference?16:03
alecjwWhatIsTheMatrix: There's no filesystem on the partition.16:03
jhutchinsKrenair: What about other things you haven't thought of?  What about lockfiles?  Locked files?  Open files that aren't locked?  Status flags?16:04
WhatIsTheMatrixalecjw: oh, my bad. i didn't read your first message right16:04
ObrienDavealecjw, have you tried with gparted?16:04
jhutchinsalecjw: Is your GUI filebrowser perhaps opening it or mounting it via fuse?16:05
Krenairjhutchins, ... maybe it'd be easier to do this from nautilus or something...16:06
MonkeyDustalecjw  can you not format it with a live usb or dvd?16:06
ObrienDavealecjw, ^^^^ agrees16:07
alecjwObrienDave: Haven't tried gparted, no. Although mke2fs fails too so I doubt that iwll help16:08
jhutchinsKrenair: More than one person suggested that you boot to some other medium like a live cd, clonezilla, systemrescuecd, etc.16:08
alecjwjhutchins: It doesn't appear to be mounted. There's no filesystem on the partition to mount anyway16:09
WhatIsTheMatrixalecjw: what did you use to create the partition?16:09
Krenairjhutchins, hm? who else?16:09
alecjwMonkeyDust: I don't know, the reason I'm trying to format it is to make a liveusb :P16:09
jhutchinsalecjw: That, and what is the full command and output?16:09
jhutchins!paste16:09
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.16:09
alecjwWhatIsTheMatrix: fdisk. It didn't give me any errors16:09
MonkeyDustalecjw what system are you in, right now?16:09
jhutchinsalecjw: Generally you don't format for a liveusb, you write an image to it.16:10
WhatIsTheMatrixalecjw: that could be the issue16:10
jhutchinsalecjw: The image already contains the partition table and formatted filesystem.16:10
WhatIsTheMatrixalecjw: i'd instead use.... cfdisk16:10
ObrienDavealecjw, gee, you should have said that earlier. saves a lot of questions ;P16:10
alecjwjhutchins: Actually that isn't quite true. It's for a debian netinstaller16:11
alecjwrather than a liveusb16:11
alecjwMonkeyDust: Ubuntu 12.04.316:11
jhutchinsalecjw: In that case, you simply cat /debian.iso > /dev/usb016:11
hipitihopTJ-, finally got xrandr -q showing the correct -display info, it does show hdmi-0 connected @ 1360x768+0+0 all other available outputs (vga & dvi) disconnected16:11
alecjwjhutchins: Can you do that? I was going to use unetbootin16:11
jhutchinsalecjw: It will destroy the partion table, formatting, and anything on the drive and replace it with the installer.16:12
ObrienDavealecjw, unetbootin works16:12
jhutchinsActually, unetbootin frequently fails with Debian, we're not sure why.16:12
gordonjcpjhutchins: s/ with Debian// ftfy16:12
gordonjcpunetbootin needs to die16:12
BluesKajjhutchins, it failed with kubuntu here16:13
gordonjcpand the people who wrote it need to be send somewhere far away from any computers16:13
gordonjcpand given a good long time to think about what they've done16:13
ObrienDavei never had a problem with unetbootin until recently. older versions seem to work just fine16:14
gordonjcpwhoever wrote unetbootin, I hope they get two different kinds of fleas and are allergic to all the flea sprays that work on them16:14
jhutchinsIt's worked great for me on two different systems, running from Linux both times.  I have't been able to rule out user error as the actual problem, but it's a known thing, whereas using cat or dd with a verified iso file works almost 100% of the time.16:14
BluesKajjhutchins, I was advised to use the older versions of unetbootin , they work better with uefi settings16:14
OerHeksgordonjcp, i feel sorry for the fleas, but that would be offtopic16:14
ObrienDaveROFL16:15
MonkeyDustalecjw  ok, and how did you install 12.04.3? use the same medium to format the partition16:15
alecjwjhutchins: catting the iso image to the USB drive seems to have resulted in something vaguely sane, so I'll try booting from this, thanks!16:15
gordonjcpOerHeks: :-)16:16
OerHeks!find flea16:16
ubottuFile flea found in ggobi, octave-htmldoc, python-cherrypy3, python3-cherrypy316:16
alecjwMonkeyDust: It's almost certainly been wiped by now... and in any case, I don't have it. I'm at my parents' house for the holidays16:16
alecjwBut catting the iso image seems to have done something sane so I'm going to give this a go16:17
alecjwThanks WhatIsTheMatrix, jhutchins ,ObrienDave, MonkeyDust for your help16:19
WhatIsTheMatrixalecjw: sure. good luck16:19
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sitown1Tj-: Ok, thanks for your help, i guess i might have enough information to exclude what i do not need to check.16:20
sitown1sitown1: I'm not sure then; You need a developer/user familiar with the recent power management user interface code16:20
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fjwbofbvwhi16:30
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ObrienDavegreetings16:30
fjwbofbvwif i have 2 linux installed can i delete grub in one of them ?16:31
BluesKajfjwbofbvw, are you sure they both have grub installed?16:31
fjwbofbvwyes i see it in synaptic16:32
fjwbofbvwand after each kernel update its messed up :)16:32
BluesKajfjwbofbvw, then uninstall grub from the OS that's furthest away from the mbr (begining of the hdd) , where it's installed by the first linux OS16:34
fjwbofbvwok thx16:35
BluesKajthen update-grub on the first linux OS16:35
sitown1Is there a time limit on pasteubuntu?16:38
OerHekssitown1, not that i know of16:40
mbroekerfjwbofbvw,16:40
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sitown1OerHeks: ok, ty16:41
jhutchinssitown1: There's a limit to what other people should be expected to sort through.16:43
OerHekstrue, and no delete option16:43
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sitown1jhutchins: If i understood you right. I tried to find the answer to if the paste is there forever or not. But no luck, and i needed to know if i could use the result in my fault log document. So it was greatly appriciated to get the answer.16:46
caring_ish_hello, I am using Ubuntu 12.10 & attempting to upgrade to 13.04, though the Update Manager is displaying 13.10 is available & the upgrade tool for 13.10 is not working for Ubuntu 12.10 to 13.10. Can anybody help?16:46
marlo_caring_ish_, might i recommend that you run the install CD for 13.10... if i remember correctly, it will detect your 12.10 install and upgrade it16:47
caring_ish_marlo_, I am out of discs. I would prefer to use network software16:48
k1lcaring_ish_: which command did you use? please show a "lsb_release -a" in a pastebin16:49
caring_ish_k1l, "No LSB modules are available."16:50
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k1lcaring_ish_: that is not the part i am interessted in16:50
k1l!paste | caring_ish_16:50
ubottucaring_ish_: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.16:50
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sitown1caring_ish: Maybe this helps? http://askubuntu.com/questions/110477/how-do-i-upgrade-to-a-newer-version-of-ubuntu16:52
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caring_ish_k1l, http://pastebin.com/B440s4Kp16:56
k1lcaring_ish_: ok. what does "sudo do-release-upgrade" bring you?16:56
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caring_ish_http://pastebin.com/xn5qwvZz16:59
caring_ish_k1l, look above at paste17:00
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daftykinscaring_ish_: yeah you can't jump two releases like that17:00
k1lcaring_ish_: why is it searching for saucy? what is the exact command you did?17:00
ObrienDavecaring_ish_, you must go from 12.10 to 13.04 to 13.10.17:00
caring_ish_k1l, the command you suggested17:01
caring_ish_k1l, specifically "sudo do-release-upgrade"17:01
k1lcaring_ish_: ok, can you pastebin the /etc/apt/sources.list file?17:02
caring_ish_really, there should be command for specifically upgrading to the release reference17:02
k1lcaring_ish_: there is. it seems that there is something wrong on your system17:03
caring_ish_k1l, if there is a command for the specific release reference, then that would be the reference necessary to use, not the troubleshooting of the sources.list, not actually17:04
k1l?17:04
k1lagain: the upgrade process works just fine and as intended. there is some problem wiht your system or sources.17:04
caring_ish_k1l, really the problem appertains the upgrade tool, not the system itself17:04
k1lcaring_ish_: if you dont want support to solve the problem stop asking in here. its not a ranting channel17:05
caring_ish_k1l, the upgrade tool is for use of upgrading 13.04 to 13.1017:05
daftykinscaring_ish_: forgive my suggestion, but i doubt someone's going to fix the upgrade tool for you right now - so what do you want to do? :)17:05
k1lcaring_ish_: the upgrade tool upgrades from the $used_release to the $next_release17:06
caring_ish_daftykins, I'm suggesting somebody might have a reference to the correct upgrade tool for upgrading 12.10 to 13.0417:06
k1lthat works.17:06
daftykinscaring_ish_: so you don't even have a flash drive handy right now?17:06
k1lcaring_ish_: please show your sources.list file so we can investigate what is wrong on your system17:06
caring_ish_k1l, 12.10 to 13.10 is not $used_release to the $next_release17:06
k1lcaring_ish_: it is17:07
k1lwell no.17:07
k1lif you got damaged sources it can be seen as next release. that is what i am asking for the sources.list file17:07
karontNickServ identify italia9017:07
k1lbut if you are mr."i know everything better" dont ask for help17:07
daftykinskaront: do that in your status window17:08
caring_ish_k1l, aha, that makes for reason I suppose17:08
DJoneskaront: Also change your password as soon as possible17:08
ObrienDavekaront, thanks for sharing your password ;P17:08
karontahahahahah so bad17:08
caring_ish_k1l, http://pastebin.com/WS1RvV9q17:09
karontpassword change17:11
karont:-)17:11
karont i'm new to use xchat17:11
avivHi, I have a problem in Ubuntu 13.10. I installed Hebrew text input, and yet when I am in Hebrew mode and I start typing, I get Latin characters. Can anyone help?17:11
TJ-caring_ish_: It looks as if there are some references to Precise (12.04) for source packages. Not sure if those would cause the symptoms you see, though!17:12
k1lcaring_ish_: you still have precise sources active. you should disable them17:12
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caring_ish_TJ-; k1l, right, gracias. I disabled the "Maverick" sources, though not the "Precise" until now. :)17:14
caring_ish_I'll try again17:14
caring_ish_k1l, the update manager is still showing 13.10 as the available upgrade17:16
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anonymous_yo17:17
k1lyou have PPAs enabled? caring_ish_17:18
ikoniak1l: do you even need to ask17:18
caring_ish_k1l, where are the PPA option settings again?17:18
anonymous_total  noob here17:18
denniso1hi17:19
k1lcaring_ish_: "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d/"17:19
WhatIsTheMatrixhowdy17:19
anonymous_what are  you  up  to17:20
ikonia!topic | anonymous_17:20
ubottuanonymous_: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic17:20
caring_ish_k1l, are you suggesting every file within "/etc/apt/sources.list.d/" is a PPA?17:21
k1lcaring_ish_: yes, it is17:22
caring_ish_k1l, it reads "total 92"17:22
WhatIsTheMatrixwow17:23
WhatIsTheMatrixjust a few there17:23
caring_ish_:D17:23
WhatIsTheMatrixsoftware junkie are we? :)17:23
WhatIsTheMatrixdon't blame you17:23
caring_ish_:)17:23
Iszakcaring_ish_ what version? 12.04?17:24
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caring_ish_cool nick WhatIsTheMatrix :)17:24
k1l!ppa | caring_ish_17:24
ubottucaring_ish_: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge17:24
WhatIsTheMatrixcaring_ish_: thx17:24
caring_ish_so WhatIsTheMatrix, if you had 254 characters to be precise with your explanation, could you? :D17:26
WhatIsTheMatrixcaring_ish_: if you want, /join #ubuntu-offtopic17:27
douglwhat is the command for grub to scan for OSes again?17:27
k1ldougl: "sudo update-grub"17:28
douglthanks17:29
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kongthapi'm using GOM player to play songs for my guitar practice because it can speed down the song and can loop within particular path, is there GOM player on ubuntu or any alternative app please???17:44
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WhatIsTheMatrixkongthap: a real simple player called 'alsaplayer' can do that. so i imagine many other linux players can as well17:46
ObrienDavekongthap, audacity can loop. not sure how well it changes playback speed. are you using mp3? midi?17:46
fellayaboy1is their any tool/program that will let me input my bitlocker key to open a windows partition/disk from ubuntu?17:46
WhatIsTheMatrixkongthap: although, i was wondering the same thing ObrienDave asked17:47
kongthapObrienDave, mostly mp3, sometime .flac17:48
OerHeks!tuxguitar17:48
OerHeks!info tuxguitar17:48
ubottutuxguitar (source: tuxguitar): Multitrack guitar tablature editor and player (gp3 to gp5). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-15 (saucy), package size 2971 kB, installed size 4685 kB17:48
kongthapObrienDave, the app name is audacity ???17:48
ObrienDaveyes17:49
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ObrienDavekongthap, sudo apt-get install audacity17:50
kongthapdo i need PulseAudio???17:51
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ObrienDaveit should work with ALSA17:52
lduroshi, i have access to a laptop through SSH, Unity isn't working well for some reason, and I have xubuntu-desktop installed also17:52
ldurosIs there a way I can switch to xubuntu desktop instead of unity17:53
lduroswith lightdm?17:53
ldurosfrom ssh?17:53
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ldurosusing a conf file or something? Surely there must be a conf that has a given user be unity by default vs xubuntu or kde or whatever17:53
marlo_i am a veteran programmer of c++/Qt... what do I have to do to learn this new Qml stuff?  where's the best place to start?17:55
marlo_...and should I ?17:55
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mbroekerlduros, try sudo update-alternatives --config x-window-manager or x-session-manager17:56
marlo_oops, wrong channel, sorry guys17:57
WhatIsTheMatrixnp17:57
TJ-lduros: manually, the file to change is "/var/cache/lightdm/dmrc/$USER.dmrc" and the entry "Session=..."17:58
bugattiveyronhi if i want to disable ati graphic and use only intel graphic what should i do with /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch ? currently it use my ati graphic18:01
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dipakjust disable the ati graphics from the motherboard settings.18:02
bugattiveyronthere is no option to this there18:02
dipakwhat mother board do you use?18:03
bugattiveyronim on laptop samasung np35018:03
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stritI want to change the layout of the PDF export from Griffith. But I can't understand python. Anyone that can help? :)18:06
gordonjcpstrit: Python isn't that hard to learn18:07
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stritgordonjcp, I'm no programmer. :P Would probably take me weeks to learn that much python.18:08
gordonjcpstrit: well, maybe you can ask in the channel for the app?18:08
stritgordonjcp, that's a great idea. :)18:09
WhatIsTheMatrixis there a #python channel?18:09
newb2linuxsome people broke into my house last night and stole  my television, they were also going to steal the computer but they booted linux and couldnt figure it out18:09
gordonjcpstrit: and really, Python isn't *that* hard to get your head around18:09
gordonjcpWhatIsTheMatrix: yes18:09
WhatIsTheMatrixgordonjcp: rgr, thx18:09
newb2linuxso they threw it on the ground, could some one please tell me how i can look up what time they did this?18:09
WhatIsTheMatrixnewb2linux: sorry to hear about that :-(18:10
gordonjcpnewb2linux: clone the hard disk, go looking for logs18:10
gordonjcpthe important thing is not to even mount the hard disk, take an image of it and fiddle with that18:10
newb2linuxoh well they were not so fancy, the computer is an 8 year old dell tank18:11
newb2linuxand i just reseated the video card and it was working fine again18:11
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TJ-newb2linux: You can check the last time it was booted using "grep 'KERNEL supported cpus' /var/log/kern.log"18:12
newb2linuxi was just trying to figure out what time they did this for the police report. I wasnt sure which log i should look at for boot times. Im new to this18:12
newb2linuxoh okay18:12
chemisthello everyone, i've got a problem with starting up tor-browser... a window pops out when i start the application saying: "an unexpected error" ... after looking at the terminal output i get this: Warn - /root/tor-browser-blablabla is not owned by this user but by <unknown> (1000)18:12
chemisthow do i change the owner?18:12
k1ljust see the syslog* in /var/log/ they have timestamps18:12
marshmnhi all; is there any decent software for screen-sharing?18:13
OerHeksmaybe /var/log/auth.log if they tried to login18:13
marshmn(ie. Ubuntu as the host)18:13
WhatIsTheMatrixchemist: man chown18:13
marshmnmost online services (such as join.me and screenhero) only support Windows & Mac18:14
k1l!tor | chemist18:14
ubottuchemist: Tor is a program to route connections through several servers for anonymity. It is in Ubuntu's repositories, but the Tor Project recommends using their Tor packages due to past issues with Ubuntu's. For setup info, see option (2) of https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en | To use Tor on freenode, see !tor-sasl18:14
chemisti tried chown -R username: /path-to-tor18:14
chemistwithout success18:14
WhatIsTheMatrixchemist: try prefixing the command with...  'sudo'18:15
newb2linuxokay they didnt boot linux. Does the boot loader have a log? I am positive they turned on the computer .18:15
TJ-newb2linux: No, it doesn't18:15
chemistno need...i fixed it18:15
chemistthanks anyway18:15
newb2linuxoh well18:15
chemist:)18:15
WhatIsTheMatrixchemist: okay. cool. but what did you do to fix it?18:15
chemistbah...stupid .. nevermind18:16
chemisti did the chown command again18:16
WhatIsTheMatrixchemist: lol, ok18:16
WhatIsTheMatrixchemist: cool18:16
newb2linuxthank you everyone for the help laters18:16
chemistand used as target /path-to-tor/Data/Tor18:16
newb2linuxmerry christmas18:16
chemisti forgot to use the /Data/Tor at the end :D18:16
chemistthat's why it didn't work the first time18:16
WhatIsTheMatrixwell, with -R18:16
WhatIsTheMatrixi would think that it would have done ALL of the dirs and everything18:17
WhatIsTheMatrixas in all of the files as well18:17
chemistyeah but it didnt :D18:17
WhatIsTheMatrixokay18:17
chemistthis channel is great...i get the right answers every time i come here18:19
chemistor maybe just a hint to figure it out by myself18:19
chemist:)18:19
WhatIsTheMatrixcool :-)18:19
WhatIsTheMatrixthat's what's best i think. hints that lead you to some insight, that you tehn figure out18:19
WhatIsTheMatrixthen*18:20
chemisti would probably had never switched to linux years ago if it wasn't for this great support channel and online support forums18:20
WhatIsTheMatrixi hear that18:20
chemist:)18:20
chemistyeah i like it that way better too... so i can figure it out with a hint instead of being guided through the complete process18:21
WhatIsTheMatrixi had to figure out my way around by myself quite a bit. but so many other things i was befuddled with i got help with here on irc. :) i do walk people though stuff a lot though. they learn that way as well imo18:22
WhatIsTheMatrixusually when walking somone through something they will ask about most of it, or i explain it to them if they don't ask18:23
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chemistyes18:25
chemisttrue... so he actually understands what he is doing18:25
chemistok tor works great18:25
chemisti went to one of those whatismyip sites18:26
chemistand it says i'm in cyprus :D18:26
chemistwell...i'm not :D18:28
chemistWhatIsTheMatrix is it possible to use tor for other stuff to? ... or is it ment to be used only with http?18:28
chemistor mainly ...18:29
WhatIsTheMatrixchemist: sorry, i don't really know18:32
chemistdo you use tor?18:33
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jhutchinschemist: I would say you're somewhere near Ljubljana, in Slovenija.18:41
PriceyMy keyboard keeps dropping from EN-GB to EN-US and it's really starting to knark me. None of the keyboard/language apps seem to fix it... logging out and in sorts it out though. Any ideas? I'm on latest-stable.18:44
Jazayriwas with 12.04 kde, used backports to install mate, delete kde DE but still have this five or six errors lines on my terminal when i install/uninstall/update http://pastebin.com/ca3hhr0g. thank you18:45
chemistjhutchins yes...not really but in slovenia... i'm not using the same PC to chat here :)18:45
islandmonkeyHello all, how could I disable vsync with bumblebee enabled?18:45
DJonesPricey: On Unity? I had a similar issue, on the language selector in the notification area, change it to US and then change it back to EN18:46
PriceyDJones: Yep.. and hmm I don't have one of those...18:46
islandmonkeyWhen I load nvidia-settings w/optirun (and the correct way) nothing shows up on the XServer XVideo Settings Pane, where enabling and disabling vsync is usually done18:47
DJonesPricey: Ah, in that case, I'm not sure, I have "En" as a notification in the top right18:47
ldurossimple question, what conf do I need to modify to use xubuntu desktop by default instead of unity18:47
ldurosI tried settings /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf user-session= to xubuntu, no luck18:47
PriceyDJones: Something tells me this might be related to the error I get on every login... thanks... I'll try.18:47
ldurosi tried changing ~/.dmrc no luck18:47
ldurosThere's got to be a way not involving the lightdm GUI no??18:48
jhutchinsPricey: Perhaps you should use the name of the desktop instead of the name of the distribution.18:48
MonkeyDustlduros  lightdm remembers your last choice when logging in18:48
jhutchinsPricey: try "xfce".18:48
glitsj16islandmonkey: it might be in the OpenGL settings pane18:48
Priceyjhutchins: That meant for me?18:48
islandmonkeyglitsj16: Forgot to say - there's nothing vsync related in there either18:49
jhutchinsPricey: Nope. Got the name completely wrong.18:49
jhutchinslduros: You need to use the correct name.18:49
chemistjhutchins i've seen posts on the internet saying you can connect to freenode using tor18:49
chemisti will try that18:49
chemistdo you use it?18:49
k1l!tor | chemist see the bots message18:49
ubottuchemist see the bots message: Tor is a program to route connections through several servers for anonymity. It is in Ubuntu's repositories, but the Tor Project recommends using their Tor packages due to past issues with Ubuntu's. For setup info, see option (2) of https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en | To use Tor on freenode, see !tor-sasl18:49
k1llduros: see /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf18:50
chemistk1l  tnx18:50
chemist!tor-sasl18:50
ubottufreenode blocks connections from Tor users on its regular servers. Users registered with nickserv can connect to freenode's Tor hidden service instead; see http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml#tor for instructions. For help, ask in #freenode.18:50
k1llduros: see  /usr/share/doc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.gz  for all possible options18:51
glitsj16islandmonkey: only other way i know otoh is adding it manually in /etc/X11/xorg.conf .. i don't have to use bumblebee so not sure how that would turn out ..18:51
ldurosok18:51
Lopewhat software can you recommend for backing up my entire hard drive (root and home each on their own LVM volume) ?18:51
MonkeyDustLope  rsync is fast18:52
LopeMonkeyDust: so would I just use something like DD to backup my boot sector18:53
Lopethen just make a snapshot of each of my volumes, then rsync that to the backup location?18:53
addajonesthis is my first time on linux, on a chromebook as well, and im very excited18:53
addajonesubuntu 13.10 with xfce 418:53
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glitsj16islandmonkey: perhaps you already have it disabled in +etc/X11/xorg.conf, hence nothing showing in nvidia-settings perhaps, just a guess though18:54
MonkeyDustLope  or skip what you added and just use rsync18:54
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LopeMonkeyDust: can I rsync the LVM data blocks?18:54
Lopeor rsync the whole /dev/sda even?18:54
MonkeyDustLope  not sure, i'm not familiar with lvm18:56
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islandmonkeyglitsj16: With bumblebee there is no xorg.conf; instead a driver-specific xorg.conf is stored in /etc/bumblebee18:57
islandmonkey..that looks like it doesn't do much18:58
mmmmmmmhi18:59
mmmmmmmI have a non working Synaptic touchpad19:00
mmmmmmmI also followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingTouchpadDetection and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#Troubleshooting19:01
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jhutchinsmm19:02
jhutchinsmmmmmmm: Does it show up in dmesg?19:02
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jhutchinsmmmmmmm: Is it PCI or USB?19:02
mmmmmmmIt is detected by kernel19:02
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Infinitenever new this existed19:02
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mmmmmmmPCI (laptop)19:02
mmmmmmmalso showed in xinput list19:03
Infinitepeace19:03
mmmmmmmSynaptics Touch Pad V 103S              id=10[slave  pointer  (2)]19:03
mmmmmmmHP Touchscreen is working but Synaptics touchpad's not19:04
FrederickJHi, is there a global bashrc,  I want to put 'unset histfile' so it has effect on all users?19:06
gazarsgowhere does load come from, if not disk or cpu ?19:07
gazarsgocontext switches and interrupts ?19:07
mmmmmmmThere isn't any switch for touchpad19:08
DdnHello?19:10
DdnI've never used this before, how do i ask for help?19:13
Vooloowhy is my clock am/pm when I set it to 24 hours?19:14
kruxomanDdn: Just explain your problem. :)19:14
VirtualEpiphany@Vooloo - Did you log out and back in?19:14
VoolooVirtualEpiphany: I'm sure I restarted the computer even19:14
phillyji'm having trouble with ssh on to a local machine; I was able to ssh from that machine into my current one, but it won't work the other way around19:15
VirtualEpiphany@phillyj can you telnet to port 22 on the remote host sounds like a firewall issue19:16
TJ-phillyj: maybe you need to "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" ?19:16
vlad_starkovQuestion: Installing Ubuntu Server 12.04 LTS 64bit. While installing it asked to choose the kernel. What should I choose? See sccreenshot http://cl.ly/image/1p2c0w043V3V19:16
DdnOK, I've never used IRC before. So this is a little new to me.  Question 1: I have really slow login, anything i can do to troubleshoot? Question 2:  when i change settings in gnome it affects ubuntu, do they use the same config files?19:17
phillyjTJ-: that was the first thing i did19:17
TJ-phillyj: OK, so the server is installed and running on both systems?19:18
phillyjTJ-: yes19:18
MalinusHello. i switched from using debian on a notebook for years, to ubuntu. i remember having some problem with the wireless drivers, but even the ethernet doesn't seem to work after installing ubuntu (when connected it doesn't even light up). I tried lshw -C network, and my ethernet interface seems to say DISABLED. How would I enable it? If I can get the ehternet to work, I'll probably work out the wireless later.19:18
DdnIs there a way to follow just one conversation? I don't think I can keep up with 1677 people.19:18
phillyjTJ-: do you know if the fact that the computer i'm on is LAN and the one I want to connect to is WiFi can be a problem19:19
k1lMalinus: what does "rfkill list" give you?19:19
TJ-phillyj: If the PCs are all on the same LAN and same IP subnet you should have no problem19:19
phillyjTJ-: the error i get is "no route to host"19:19
TJ-phillyj: Sounds like a routing issue then, on the source PC. Are both machines obtaining IP addresses from a DHCP router?19:20
Malinusk1l, the 0: hp-wife: wireless LAN sof/hardblocked: no ... the 1 and 2 are bluetooth, so the ethernet doesn't even pop up there19:20
Malinus*wifi19:20
otakDdn: if someone tags your name it gets highlighted yes? You're right gnome and ubuntu share some config files. If it's slow, maybe your machine is >5 yrs old or maybe you have a particular graphics card problem19:20
phillyjTJ-: i guess so; i took the ip address from the DHCP list on my router19:21
nocternalphillyj: That is a generic error sometimes, such as when your intended service is not running on the other machine. (ie.  web servers is down and you're trying to use a browser).19:21
phillyjnocternal: i was just sshing from the other machine but i can't do it the other way around19:22
Malinusk1l, I'm open for any suggestions :)19:22
k1lMalinus: what does "lscpi" and "lsusb" give you? please put into a pastebin19:23
Malinusk1l, I don't even have bluetooth on this device, I have no means to transfer the data to this device :|. It only has a floppy drive :|19:24
k1l?19:24
Malinusk1l, mind I'm not on the device on which wireless nor ethernet works :)19:24
Ddnyes, my name is highlighted. i thought they must share config files. my computer is lenovo g780 intel graphics 4000. i've tried many things to fix login, but don't know what is causing the issue. i haven't found help from reading the log files or using bootchart. but i don't know what to look for either.19:24
k1lso its that old, that its not compatible wiht the linux-kernel drivers?19:25
Peetz0rhi! I am running ubuntu 13.10, and some weird webserver is running on port 8000. I never installed webserver. It doesn't show up on netstat -4pln (as root). Output from curl -v: http://paste2.org/0C3vDMZE19:25
phillyjk1l: what are you running?19:25
Malinusk1l, no, it's 3 years old. How would I be on irc, on a device on which there is no wireless, nor ethernet :)19:25
phillyjk1l: distro, i mean19:25
k1lphillyj: that was pointed to Malinus19:26
phillyjsry, missed that19:26
Malinusk1l, I'm talking about the current device from which I'm communicating with you. It has no means of data transfer to it, other then a floppy drive. How would I pastebin the results19:27
k1lMalinus: ok, to invistigate that issue we need to know what hardware it is19:27
Peetz0rwhy teh fsck do I have a webserver running? I never asked for one19:27
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nispro_have anyone here used hdat2? testing my new hardrives but so many tests that you can run.19:29
nispro_dont know what to do19:29
Malinusk1l, ethernet controller: Realtek semicoductors: RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI express gigabit ethernet controller (rev 02). Kernel drive in use: r8169. Let's try the not-even lighting up and looking disabled ethernet first19:29
BrianHnispro_: You probably shouldn't be running them then.  'man hdat2' should give you some nice documentation.19:30
TJ-phillyj: Have you checked the routing tables on both PCs are correct? "ip route ls"19:31
Malinusk1l, if you need more info, please do tell. like I was saying, I can't really copy any data. Well I guess I could use the serial, but I don't have a serials-serial cabel19:32
nispro_BrianH: I am using the dos cd, ye need to know which test to run smart test or just check for sectors19:32
phillyjTJ-: hold on, i rebooted that machine, and its now hanging on "we send a password packet, wait for reply"19:32
phillyjTJ-: ok, connection got closed19:33
trismPeetz0r: what is the output of: apt-cache policy webfs;19:33
phillyjTJ-: i think the problem is with authentication19:33
TJ-phillyj: Are you using "ssh -vvv" to analyse the connection?19:33
phillyjyea19:34
TJ-phillyj: are the user names the same at both ends?19:34
phillyjshouldn't be19:34
TJ-phillyj: does one have passwords disabled?19:34
Peetz0rtrism: yes, I just found out that webfs is installedforsome reason19:34
Peetz0rdon't know why19:34
phillyjTJ-: yes, i think so19:34
phillyjTJ-: it logs in auto from boot19:34
trismPeetz0r: yeah it doesn't seem to have any rdepends, and it's in universe so it would seem like something you'd have to install intentionally19:35
Peetz0rtrism: and... why did it not show up in netstat?19:35
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TJ-phillyj: What does "egrep -i 'password|pam' /etc/ssh/sshd_config" show on the target?19:37
trismPeetz0r: might have wanted -a instead of -l19:37
trismPeetz0r: but I don't really know19:37
phillyjTJ-: looking for this? PermitEmptyPasswords no; UsePAM yes19:38
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TJ-phillyj: No, was wondering if "PasswordAuthentication" was set19:45
TJ-phillyj: The other thing to check, if routing is OK (which would seem to be the case) is the firewall: "sudo iptables -nvL | grep 22" in case some rules are in place for SSH19:46
phillyjTJ-: it says PasswordAuthentication yes19:46
nauyes19:46
nauhi19:46
nispro_BrianH: the documentaion was preatty bad at thier site but anyway I found out what the test did. extended smart test first and then test read and verify then extended smart test again too see sector count19:46
nauhi i need some elektronik book to my study projeck19:47
naui hope someone can help me19:47
phillyjTJ-: there is no output from that grep on iptables19:47
k1l!ot | nau19:47
ubottunau: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!19:47
bazhangtry ##electronics nau19:48
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TJ-phillyj:  can you pastebin the output of "ssh -vvv <target>" so we can see what if anything is happening with the SSH protocol?19:49
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k1l!away > dziegler_off19:51
ubottudziegler_off, please see my private message19:51
MalinusHello. i switched from using debian on a notebook for years, to ubuntu. i remember having some problem with the wireless drivers, but even the ethernet doesn't seem to work after installing ubuntu (when connected it doesn't even light up). I tried lshw -C network, and my ethernet interface seems to say DISABLED. How would I enable it? If I can get the ehternet to work, I'll probably work out the wireless later.19:52
Malinusrfkill list shows that the ethernet is diabled indeed19:52
phillyjTJ-: i was using ssh -l <username> <target ip> before but now when I tried "ssh <target ip>" i got a "permission denied (publickey, password)"19:52
SonikkuAmericaThis may sound dumb, but: Do I need to GPT format a USB drive before I create a UEFI-bootable Live USB image?19:55
SaberX01man aah19:56
SaberX01whoops wrong window .. sri19:56
Malinus:/19:57
Malinusso yeah, how do I enable a a network device that is disabled?19:58
BeldarSonikkuAmerica, usual fat32 it's just the boot in that setting that matters I would look at the uefi wiki.19:58
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phillyjTJ-: 1 sec, i'm getting the output for pastebinit20:02
jhutchinsSonikkuAmerica: Installer images typically are an image of the drive containing the MBR, the partition table, the partions, filesystems, and files.20:02
jhutchinsSonikkuAmerica: So usually you just copy or burn the image directly to the device and let that take care of it.20:03
jhutchinsSonikkuAmerica: (For that reason, iso images can be mounted like devices.)20:03
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OntologicalHey guys.  A recent update has made it so that my user no longer has access to USB devices.  Only root has access.  Any suggestions?20:14
phillyjTJ-: hmm, ssh is hanging at "debug2: shell request accepted on channel 0"20:14
omega14how do I get into fullscreen in chrome I tried f1120:17
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subz3r0omega14: use youre favourite searchengine to get the answer20:19
OerHeksomega14, F11 should work if you have focus on your chrome window20:20
KurvivorHello. How can i remove shortcut? Where in configuration files can i find them?20:21
omega14I don't know why it's working20:21
queondahow can i remove all packages i've installed with pip other than system necessary python packages?20:21
omega14is there another way?20:21
jhutchinsOntological: I'm still trying to understand why someone thinks that's a good idea.20:23
OntologicalWhy what is a good idea, jhutchins ?20:23
jhutchinsOntological: Letting a user mount a device, but mounting it root-only.20:25
SknerusHi20:25
reallycarlsomehow I broke my box.  I think it was from an apt-get purge.. now I see "Starting LightDM Display Manager … [fail]"  - I am assuming this is one reason I never get a gui login?20:25
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Ontologicaljhutchins: It's not for mounting.  It's for devices for development, such as android20:25
SknerusI20:25
SknerusI've got one problem - videos for example in youtube are playin 3 times faster20:26
Sknerusand there is no sound20:26
CarlFKalso, how do I get grub to always give me the menu so I can boot into recovery mode without having to hold shift at the right time?20:26
Ontologicalhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/24586/how-to-always-show-the-menu-in-grub2 CarlFK20:26
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Skneruswhat can i do with it?20:27
Sknerusi tried reinstalling flash20:27
CarlFKOntological: thanks20:27
Kurvivori have shortcut for my system that has broken functionality, and i cannot access it via GUI nymore20:27
Kurvivorwhere are shortcuts kept?20:27
Carrawaywhen I used to install XP, the first thing I'd do is change "adjust settings for best appearance" to "settings for best performance", e.g. I'd turn off every visual tweak that wasn't absolutely necessary. Is there something similar for ubuntu?20:27
zhxkwhich #channel have the most chinese man, 好心人爱心接力个忙!Kindlyman help relay your favorite warm heart! http://t.cn/8kuYwOK20:28
BluesKajCarraway, that tutorial is outdated , make sure you comment hidden trimeout with # in front thern set GRUB_TIMEOUT=10=20:30
BluesKajdrop trhe second =20:30
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CarrawayBluesKaj I think that might have been for CarlFK ?20:30
BluesKajCarraway, sorry20:31
BluesKajCarlFK, that tutorial is outdated , make sure you comment hidden trimeout with # in front thern set GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 ...10 is the number of secs you want20:32
CarlFKBluesKaj: Carraway thanks20:32
CarlFKhow do I remount / rw?  (recovery mounts it ro, so I can't edit default/grub.cfg20:32
Ontologicalmount -o remount,rw / CarlFK20:33
Wolfdemon268is there any way to dualboot ubuntu with win 8? and have the multi boot loader thing20:33
* BluesKaj turns on some lights , getting hard to see the KB with these old eyes20:33
demophobiaFor step 8 of http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx is the command supposed to be "of=/dev/disk1bs=1m" with no space between '1' and 'bs'? I received the error message, "dd: /dev/disk1bs=1m: Operation not supported". What is wrong?20:33
CarlFKOntological: da.  thanks … i knew it was something like that.  now back to grub ;/20:34
aminosamigos!20:36
BluesKajCarlFK, I forgot to mention, do the timeout editing in /etc/default/grub20:36
SteveBellhi all. why can't I just disable bluetooth in the top menu bar in ubuntu via right-click or system settings preference?20:36
otakzhxk: #ubuntu-cn good luck :D20:36
glitsj16 demophobia: use "bs=1m" not 1bs=20:37
aminosamigos!clone20:37
ubottuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can use the !software package "apt-clone" - See also !automate20:37
demophobiaglitsj16: I typed "of=/dev/disk1bs=1m" -- my question was whether it should be "of=/dev/disk1 bs=1m" instead.20:37
demophobiathe webpage is ambiguous20:37
otakdemophobia: yes there should be a space, are you sure /dev/disk1 is right?20:38
CarlFKBluesKaj: looks like I have grub the way I want it.  Now I can always see "starting LightDM….[fail]"    where can I find a log or something20:38
demophobiaThank you. I think it is /dev/disk1, otak, because that's what diskutil list listed -- my primary OS is on disk020:38
demophobiaI will try again with a space. I wish this were more clear on http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx20:39
Wolfdemon268anyone know how to dualboot with win 8?20:39
otakas long as you're sure that's fine :D i can see the space tho'20:39
SteveBellwhy can't I just disable bluetooth in the top menu bar in ubuntu via right-click or system settings preference? wouldn't that be the easiest way to give user easy accessible choice?20:40
BluesKajCarlFK, /var/log/syslog20:41
k1lSteveBell: what about a left-click on the bluetooth icon and you uncheck the bluetooth icon?20:41
SteveBellk1l: lol thx that was easy20:42
SteveBelland it won't re-appear on a restart?20:42
SteveBellalso is it then disabled?20:42
k1lyes it is disabled. but i dont know if it will restart on a reboot.20:43
BluesKaj!UEFI | Wolfdemon26820:43
ubottuWolfdemon268: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI20:43
* SteveBell restarts super slow netbook20:43
SteveBellwill return in 15 mins  or so :P20:43
t0byHi! I have a bunch of Microsoft Office Powerpoint files. Can I convert them to something that's more or less plaintext (or at least PS) and/or grep-pable? That is, do you know of any trick?20:44
t0byI'm willing to lose some formatting, I can always go back to the original slideshow if needed, it's the greppage & indexing I need the most, since they are an helluva lot.20:44
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demophobiaThe command just finished operating and I received a window with a yellow triangle with a white exclamation point, the message saying, "The disk you inserted was not readable by this computer." Is that supposed to happen?20:46
t0by(Dear professor Xxxx, if you are reading this, you are old enough to have at the very least typed your dissertation on a VT100. WHY 50 POWERPOINT FILES? WHY DO YOU HATE US? :-(   )20:46
demophobiaI can click "Initialize...", "Ignore", and "Eject".20:46
bekkst0by: Dear student. Because I can.20:46
demophobiahttp://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx does not mention this happening.20:46
BluesKajt0by, http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/features/office-applications20:47
SaberX01t0by, catppt is a deb tool, my be worth a shot20:47
demophobiaI clicked "Eject" as step 9 indicated. I will restart (step 10) and see if it works. Thank you.20:48
CarlFKBluesKaj: all I see in syslog is apparmor="status"… operation=profile_replace profile=unconfirmed … lightdm-guest-session-wrapper20:48
t0by<BluesKaj> t0by, http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/features/office-applications <--- not sure how Libreoffice helps.20:49
t0by<SaberX01> t0by, catppt is a deb tool, my be worth a shot <--- thanks, shot being given20:49
SaberX01it also does  catdoc and xls2csv20:49
CarlFKBluesKaj: from what little I know of apparmor, "status" isn't going to block anything.20:49
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BluesKajCarlFK, did you run sudo update-grub after editing /etc/defsult grub in oder to choose the recovery kernel ?20:51
CarlFKBluesKaj: yes.  grub is good, I get the menu without having to hit shift, and it defaults to showing me all the boot messages.  like the lightDM error20:53
SteveBellk1l: restart and bluetooth icon is back20:53
SteveBellthat's what I though since I'm pretty sure I tried deactivating it the way you suggested already20:54
NaddiseoHow can I configure xorg to use two devices with different drivers (radeon + fglrx)? xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/6647621/  xorg.0.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/6647611/20:54
cihhanHi! I have a problem with the installation of Ubuntu Server 12.04. I have 2 hdds and I am creating 512MB of EFI boot on the first one and the remainings are combined with LVM. When I install, in the end, the grub is not installed to anywhere. Any help pls?20:54
SteveBellso do we need a ticket for offering an easy UI option to disable bluetooth in the menubar?!?20:55
SteveBellvery odd this is not in the system settings :S20:55
BluesKajCarlFK, can you open a virtual terminal aka TTY , ctl+alt+F1-F6, then login and update and upgrade20:55
CarlFKBluesKaj: yep.  I'll do it again just to make sure everything is still up to date … I have been apt-get removing things to try and reduce the number of things that are not starting correctly.  and yeah, I hope this doesn't make things worse.  this all started with a failed attempt to install graphite and related packages20:58
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cihhanI have a problem with the installation of Ubuntu Server 12.04. I have 2 hdds and I am creating 512MB of EFI boot on the first one and the remainings are combined with LVM. When I install, in the end, the grub is not installed to anywhere. Any idea?21:00
BluesKajhave to go , stuff to do21:01
TJ-cihhan: How are you installing it, using a server ISO image?21:02
demophobiaHow do I tell whether there is a wireless adapter installed on this computer? I am trying to connect to a wireless network, and I am not sure whether this computer has an internal wireless card or if I need to plug one in via USB, or if there's some other reason I'm not connecting to the internet: I'm booting from USB with Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS.21:02
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CarlFKdemom: start with lspci and lsusb21:03
CarlFKer wron nick.. demophobia  ^^^21:04
gordonjcpdemophobia: "ifconfig -a"21:04
gordonjcpdemophobia: "iwconfig"21:04
SaberX01cihhan, have you read through the UB UEFI info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI21:04
CarlFKgordonjcp: that assumes the proper driver has been loaded.  but I guess if it shows up, the yeah, it has it and a driver too21:05
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demophobiagordonjcp: iwconfig returns with "lo no wireless extensions" and "eth0 no wireless extensions" -- does that mean there is no wireless adapter installed? I understand eth0 means the 0th ethernet adapter; what does lo mean?21:06
demophobia(I don't know whether my understanding of the text "eth0" is correct.)21:06
demophobiaifconfig -a returns ... oh21:07
demophobialo = Local Loopback21:07
jestherHow is sudo linked to the normal user?21:07
jestherNormal user isn't in the sudoers file.21:07
gordonjcpjesther: groups21:07
demophobiaI don't understand the information returned by 'ifconfig -a', but 'iwconfig' returns 'no wireless extensions' for both lo and eth0, so I suppose my question is answered ...21:08
k1ljesther: the user must be in the sudo group21:08
gordonjcpdemophobia: so far, there's no *working* wireless adaptor21:08
t0by<SaberX01> t0by, catppt is a deb tool, my be worth a shot <--- oh, well, did I mention what I have are actually pptx files? No? That's because I didn't notice. Obviously catppt doesn't work.21:09
DarkAceZwhat's the command to stop a process?21:10
DarkAceZnot kill, mind you21:10
SteveBellk1l: so we do have a bug for this issue from 2012 march: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/952036/21:10
ubottuUbuntu bug 952036 in bluez (Ubuntu) "Bluetooth starts automatically on start-up. No option in Settings to disable upon start-up and Bluetooth not listed in Start-up applications." [Undecided,Expired]21:10
demophobiagordonjcp: Thank you.21:10
DarkAceZstop, like temporarily, in case you want to start it again21:10
t0byDarkAceZ, it's actually kill.21:10
t0byyou have to specify the signal from the command line21:10
t0byman kill and see which signals you can send21:10
gordonjcpdemophobia: okay, is the machine *likely* to have built-in wifi?21:10
TJ-DarkAceZ: You can 'background' a process using "bg"21:10
t0byI *think* kill -SIGSTOP yourpid *should* work but.21:10
gordonjcpdemophobia: that's not terribly likely for desktops, fairly likely for laptops21:10
t0byOr well, CTRL+Z from the command line should usually work21:11
t0byfg or, again, kill -SIGCONT brings it up again.21:11
demophobiaI think this desktop used an external wireless adapter connected via USB due to the design of the chassis.21:11
DarkAceZthanks, t0by21:11
DarkAceZthat's what I was looking for21:11
DarkAceZkill -SIGSTOP21:11
t0byDarkAceZ, bottom line is - "kill" is not just for killing, but for all sorts of signals. Yeah, counterintuitive.21:12
demophobiaMore important issue: The hard drive on this computer may be bad. I do not have the Vista Home Premium recovery disks, and so I am considering installing this Ubuntu OS instead. Is there a way to test the hard drive to see if it is damaged from the Ubuntu USB boot drive?21:12
cihhanTJ-, SaberX01, Sorry I missed your writings. I have installed Ubuntu before without LVM, but now Im trying to install with LVM. And Im having problem. Yes Im using a CD.21:12
gordonjcpdemophobia: there's a disk utility21:13
gordonjcpdemophobia: boot to a desktop, and run Disks21:14
gordonjcpyou can pull up stuff like SMART stats21:14
t0by<SaberX01> t0by, catppt is a deb tool, my be worth a shot <--- You know when RMS spews his nonsense against proprietary standards and stuff and you are like "yeah, dude, chill, it's not like people die"? Well, turns out that if I can't convert this PPTX nonsense into *something* I may very well kill somebody tonight :-E''21:14
demophobiagordonjcp: Thank you. Disk Utility says, "SMART Status: Disk has a few bad sectors". I don't know what this means, really, or how to fix it ...21:14
t0byI'm giving money to the FSF for Christmas. Really.21:15
demophobiaah, I clicked "View SMART data and run self-tests"21:15
Bashing-omdemophobi; "a few bad sectors" is acceptable, there is no such thing as a perfect hard disk.21:16
adashi, I can share videos, pics and music from my windows computer with my TV, does it mean its possible to do with my ubuntu server?21:16
gordonjcpdemophobia: if there are few enough sectors to remap them, don't worry21:17
demophobia'Reallocated Sector Count' has assessment 'Warning', Value 'Normalized: 100 / Worst: 100 / Threshold: 36 / Value: 230 sectors'21:17
demophobia'Airflow Temperature' has Assessment 'Failed in the past' with Value 'Normalized: 78 / Worst: 45 / Threshold: 45 / Value: 22 C / 72 F'21:18
clifterRunning Ubuntu 13... File managers I use: (Files 3.8.2 & Nemo 1.8.4) ~ Suggestions on other file managers? ~ Is there a way show a drop/down detailed view in the furthest left hand column? ?21:18
demophobia'Current Pending Sector Count' has Assessment 'Warning' with Value 'Normalized: 100 / Worst: 100 / Threshold: 0 / Value: 158 sectors"21:18
demophobia... and that's all the red/bad looking stuff ...21:19
AprelWhat's the best way to report typographical "bugs" for software hosted on launchpad? Report it like any other bug?21:19
AprelThe "bug" is a comma where a period/full stop should be in one of the dialogs. Should I report this like any other bug, or is something this minor better suited elsewhere?21:19
SaberX01demophobia, what drove you to run the tests in the first place, just bored, wanted to know, have some error in Ubuntu or what?21:19
MaynardWatersanyone with experience growing an raid 5 array21:19
MaynardWaters?21:20
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NaddiseoAprel, report a bug on launchpad so there's a record of it.21:20
demophobiaSaberX01: The computer used Vista Home Premium and crashed back in March, and has not been usable since then. I am trying to repair it now. I think the hard drive may need to be replaced, but I don't know by what criteria that decision should be made.21:21
gordonjcpdemophobia: well, stick Ubuntu on it21:21
gordonjcpdemophobia: if it fails horribly with all sorts of hard disk problems, go buy a new hard disk21:21
SaberX01demophobia, yea what he said ^^___^^  ..21:21
demophobiaAttempting to boot normally results in the BSOD 'STOP: 0x0000007B (0XFFFFF880009A9928,0XFFFFFFFFC0000034,0X0000000000000000,0X0000000000000000)'21:21
MaynardWatersI am trying to grow an raid 5 array with 3x3TB drives to a 4x3TB drive array21:22
MaynardWatersi wouldnt mind change it to raid 6, but raid 5 is preferable21:22
demophobiaStartup Repair seems unable to function properly, and System Restore failed.21:22
TJ-MaynardWaters: Using mdraid or LVM or both?21:22
AprelNaddiseo: ok, will do.21:22
Bashing-omdemophobia, TBH, the threashold appears to be exceeded, why not consider zeroing out that drive(dd command)  prior to installing ubuntu. see what then results.21:23
demophobiaBashing-om: would I click 'Format Volume'?21:23
demophobiain Disk Utility?21:23
TJ-MaynardWaters: For MD, see "man mdadm" and the 'grow' options with --raid-devices=X21:23
demophobiais that a graphical-user interface method of using the 'dd' command?21:24
demophobiaI just did 'man dd' in the terminal, and it says "convert and copy a file" ...21:24
SaberX01demophobia, dd is a command line tool, for a GUI version, look at gdiskdump21:26
Bashing-omdemophobia; I know of no counter part to the command line utility "dd", dd == disk destoryer, use with extreme caution. It works ! and does exactly as told, wheather that was the intent or not.21:26
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KurvivorHow can i switch languages?21:26
SaberX01Kurvivor, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale21:28
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Guest13452hello everyone!21:28
SteveBelldoes anybody know how to permanently deactivate USB in ubuntu 13.10? no UI option available...21:28
irreverantOk im frustrated with this OS21:28
MonkeyDustirreverant  it's called "learning"21:29
irreverantMonkeyDust: its called simplicity of UI21:29
irreverantWhere can i change the display resolution settings21:29
TJ-SteveBell: One way is to prevent the USB kernel modules from loading, but in Ubuntu those modules are built-in so you'd need to use kernel command-line options, if available, to disable USB totally21:30
Bashing-omdemophobia; Food for thought, as a means of last resort - zero out a drive -> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1M <- where sda is that 1st hard disk the system recognizes(carefull here).21:31
irreverantAnd how can i update my drivers for my video card, i have a dell mini 9 and get part of mys creen cut off because the resolution is over sized21:31
SteveBellok, too much multitasking and maybe too much red wine. what I'm looking for is to disable bluetooth in the top menu bar21:31
SteveBellpermanently21:31
MonkeyDustirreverant  system settings > display21:31
irreveranttried there21:31
demophobiaBashing-om: I don't understand the context for doing that, i.e. what it accomplishes, what problem it fixes. I have the impression it "wipes the drive clean of data" ...21:32
irreverantMonkeyDust is there a way to autohide the taskbar?21:32
OerHeksSteveBell, that could be set in Users&groups, which is not installed standard > http://askubuntu.com/questions/45647/users-and-groups-administration-tool-what-do-the-options-in-user-privileges-ta21:33
SteveBellhm, how to raise this with devs? or don't they care about UX?21:33
MonkeyDustirreverant  install unity-tweak-tool21:33
TJ-SteveBell: You can add "nousb" to the kernel command line (in grub) to disable the USB sub-system21:33
irreverantwould that be apt-get install unity-tweak-tool21:34
MaynardWatersTJ- I am using mdadm, and I have been reading the man page along with a number of other online resources21:34
MonkeyDustirreverant  yes21:34
MaynardWatersTJ-: asdfjkl@TROOPER:~$ sudo mdadm --grow /dev/md0 --add /dev/sde –raid-devices=421:34
MaynardWatersmdadm: can only add devices to linear arrays21:34
SteveBellTJ-:  yes. well the things is what is the concept with ubuntu? going mainstream or staying with sys admins and staying at 1,3% market share? I just don't understand why UI is neglected21:34
SteveBellif anybody has exact terminal commands I'm happy to execute21:35
MaynardWatersJust doesn't seem right to me that I can't grow a raid 5 array, at the least I'll want to convert it from raid 5 to 6, but that doesn't look like an easy process.21:35
SteveBellbut I'm just not sure if assuming such in depth knowledge can be expected from the average user21:35
TJ-SteveBell: For disabling Bluetooth you'd want to disable the bluetooth service itself from starting, which would cause the bluetooth applet to 'hide'21:35
SteveBellyep I understand things so far21:35
SaberX01irreverant,  You dont need tweak for that(but tweak is a nice tool), it's it's easy, hit the super key (win-key) type in dash, Display, then appearance ...then behavior21:36
Bashing-omdd does in fact wipe the disk, replacing all data with zeors, when (re-)installing a new partition table is made and maybe all those bad sectors are actually usable ! I have rsecued several disks using this method - never to  be considered 100% reliable though .21:36
Aprellaunchpad lets me attach a patch to the bug report. Is a "patch" the file(s) from the source that I fixed dumped into a tar.gz? What's the proper format to submit a "patch" to incorrect source files?21:36
WhatIsTheMatrixSteveBell: if it is a system service, maybe you could use the 'bum' package to disable it21:36
WhatIsTheMatrix!info bum21:36
ubottubum (source: bum): graphical runlevel editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.2-1 (saucy), package size 83 kB, installed size 520 kB21:37
gnudoi have a motorola flipside phone (Motorola MB508) and I am trying to interact with it using my GNU/Linux computer via bluetooth.21:37
Deissohello, I need help with my audio?21:37
MonkeyDustgnudo  ubuntu?21:37
gnudoBluetooth is enabled on both devices. On the Motorola Flipside i can see that the device is paired and connected but i can not browse files on the device from GNU/Linux computer, let alone configure it with wammu21:37
Deissocould someone help me please ;321:38
SaberX01gnudo, are either one of these devices using UBuntu ?21:38
MonkeyDustDeisso  start with a question21:38
gnudoMonkeyDust, 12.04ish21:38
DeissoI need help with my audio? it is slient21:38
Deissosilent*21:38
MonkeyDustgnudo  what's the outcome of    cat /etc/issue21:38
KurvivorSaberX01: that is definitrly not it21:39
MonkeyDustDeisso  in a terminal, type     alsamixer     if you see mm, go there and hit m21:39
Deissook21:39
gnudoSaberX01, the computer is running 12.04ish, the Motorola Flipside android21:39
MonkeyDustgnudo  what's the outcome of    cat /etc/issue21:39
KurvivorSaberX01: i have russian installed, but locale -a does not list it21:39
SteveBellWhatIsTheMatrix: sure. but how to install etc pp. well maybe the bug gets some attention from a dev one day…21:39
SaberX01Kurvivor, what are you tlakign about?21:39
SaberX01*talking21:39
Deissojorge at jorge-ubuntu in ~                                                          ,↪ alsamixer, cannot open mixer: No such file or directory21:40
Deissothere is the output21:40
gnudoMonkeyDust, i am running Trisquel GNU/Linux 6.0 (based on 12.04) on my computer21:40
MonkeyDustDeisso  the command is     alsamixer21:40
SaberX01Kurvivor, sorry  you already answered, that's who locals are configured.21:40
SaberX01how21:40
MonkeyDustgnudo  trisuel is not supported here, better ask in their channel21:40
DeissoMonkeyDust, I did alsamixer21:41
MonkeyDustgnudo  we don't know what the trisqel people changed21:41
TJ-SteveBell: the bluetoothd is started by Upstart, from "/etc/init/bluetooth.conf" You'd want to rename that to prevent the bluetooth daemon starting: "sudo service bluetooth stop" then  "sudo mv /etc/init/bluetooth.conf /etc/init/bluetooth.conf.disabled"21:41
MonkeyDustDeisso  and it's ubuntu?21:41
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gnudoMonkeyDust, i tried #trisquel but to no avail21:42
KurvivorSaberX01: yet there is nothing on shortcuts for language switch there, isn't it?21:42
Deissoyes it is ubuntu MonkeyDust21:42
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MonkeyDustgnudo  any reason you're using trisqel? there are more supported distro's, like ubuntu21:43
SaberX01Kurvivor, use sudo locale-gen to generate the lang's you would like to use.21:43
SteveBellTJ-: executed both commands. now restarting to test21:43
MonkeyDustDeisso  don't mistype, in terminal: alsamixer21:44
planetHi21:44
Deissoi did!21:44
MonkeyDustDeisso  and what ubuntu version?21:44
Deisso13.1021:44
planetHi everyone21:44
planetIs there my text?21:45
WhatIsTheMatrixhello, yes planet21:45
planetok21:45
planetI have a question21:45
SaberX01Kurvivor, also look at using dpkg-reconfigure locales but the locales must be listed in: /var/lib/locales/supported.d/local before dpkg will generate tthem.21:45
planetWhat is the Programming Language used in Terminal?21:46
MonkeyDustplanet  bash21:46
DeissoI think bash or sh21:46
WhatIsTheMatrixplanet: it's called bash21:46
planetok21:46
Deissooh then its bash21:46
yreyesyup21:46
planetHow can i learn it?21:46
WhatIsTheMatrixusually anyway. there are different 'shells'(sh)21:46
MonkeyDustplanet  by doing some reading21:46
DeissoMonkeyDust21:47
yreyesread21:47
MonkeyDustDeisso21:47
DeissoDoes it matter that I use fish shell?21:47
DeissoI've used it for a long time21:47
Deissoand sound used to work21:47
WhatIsTheMatrixbash = Bourne Again Shell21:47
planetDo you advice a web page or pdf manual for me?21:47
MonkeyDustDeisso  try to go out of it, use bash and then alsamixer21:47
Deissook21:47
Deissobut I forgot how to change back to bash21:47
DeissoD:21:47
WhatIsTheMatrixDeisso: i think it's in ~/.bash_profile21:48
Deissook21:48
planetok21:48
WhatIsTheMatrixDeisso: that's if i remember correctly21:48
planetI have another question21:48
Bashing-omplanet, good place to start: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FullBashGuide21:48
planetI want to learn Web Development21:49
WhatIsTheMatrixDeisso: ok, sorry, perhaps it...   ~/.bashrc21:49
planetBefore i used HTML, CSS, JavaScript and PHP21:49
Deissook21:49
MonkeyDustplanet  books, tutorials, you have to do some reading21:49
planetnow i want tu use another language for server side21:49
planeti have 2 choise, Python or Java21:49
KurvivorSaberX01: that is irrelevant to my problem. there is no shortcuts to be set in locales21:50
planetwhich is better for web?21:50
MonkeyDustplanet  better ask in #ubuntu-offtopic21:50
WhatIsTheMatrixDeisso: bah. you better ask someone else. i think i still got that wrong.21:50
KurvivorSaberX01: i need to find where shortcut for language switch can be set or unset21:50
Deissoyeah you did21:50
WhatIsTheMatrixDeisso: rgr21:50
KurvivorSaberX01: preferably unset, and using console/text editor21:50
planetok21:50
SaberX01Kurvivor, Thats' how they are set / regenerated, so it is relevant, sorry maybe others can advise.21:51
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jeeves_mossi'm trying to get the mini.iso to install on a Vortex86 CPU, and when I get to the point (ubuntu 10.04LTS) where it's downlaoding the installer files, it just hangs on the blue screen with the grey bar at the bottom.  what causes this?21:54
intraderHello, it appears that deleting python is a disaster. How do I recover - it seems to have deleted a hug amount of stuff, including Launcher items, libraries, gnome utilities, etc. I have reinstalled python put what was deleted from the system does not come back21:55
DJonesjeeves_moss: 10.04 is no longer supported (since May 2013) I would guess that the installer is trying to look for the files that no longer exist21:55
SteveBellTJ-:  SUCESS °/21:55
wildonnm21:55
SteveBell:) worked liked a dream21:55
SteveBellthanks for helping me out!21:55
SteveBellon the long run this really needs to be addressed by devs21:55
TJ-SteveBell: Great :)21:55
irreverantNo I dont want to close the "Apple Unity" bar21:56
irreverantI want to autohide the "Finder" bar up top.21:57
SaberX01intrader, hwo exactly did you delete python initially?21:57
SaberX01*how21:57
irreverantI wish they would just let me choose whether i want unity, kde or gnome and not make the choice for me...21:57
irreverantthats what linux is about, if i wanted a closed system then i would use windows or apple....21:57
intraderSaberX01, `sudo apt-get remove python`21:57
wildonlol21:57
irreverantwhats the point of having liberty if i cant enjoy freedom.21:58
irreverantthats what linux is about free as in speech not beer!21:58
DeissoMonkeyDust, the sound still doesn't work21:58
SaberX01intrader, ouch .,. as you now know, not a good thing too do.21:58
MonkeyDustDeisso  have you tried alsamixer?21:58
Deisso-.- yes21:58
wildonfun how we love freedom but cnt work for it21:59
irreverantwildon: i assume you mean that, im lazy and dont21:59
irreverantam not willing to work to modify my ui?21:59
SaberX01intrader, You could try: sudo apt-get install --reinstall python2.7  .. and also I've seen that reinstalling ubuntu-desktop restore pythin2.7 aslo.21:59
irreverantyour right freedom is not free21:59
Deissodom21:59
MonkeyDustirreverant  what was your first question? what brings you here?22:00
irreverantSince the drivers for my box suck, im stuck with an oversized screen that chops everything from the bottom of all my windows22:00
irreverantwhich means the ok, save and close buttons are not available to me22:00
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irreverantand in the grand wisdom of the ubuntu developers, they wont allow me to modify the size of the window to22:01
intraderSaberX01, I have done `sudo apt-get install python`. Should I do as you say?22:01
irreverantmake them smaller so that i can see said buttons...22:01
SaberX01intrader, yes, try that.22:01
k1lirreverant: please stop than nonsense ranting and stick to acutal ubuntu support issues.22:01
irreveranti cant modify the screen resolution, so the only thing i can think of doing that will give me more space22:01
MonkeyDustirreverant  have you tried the system settings?22:01
irreverantis removing the Menu/find bar up top22:01
irreverantHow do i remove the menu bar from the top of the screen22:02
irreverantor autohide22:02
intraderSaberX01, command is `sudo apt-get install --reinstall python2.7` - is that right?22:02
irreverantthe black bar up top... thats always there?22:03
DeissoMonkeyDust, :322:03
SaberX01intrader, yes22:03
irreverantAnyone?22:03
MonkeyDustirreverant  are you using a special type of screen? i've never seen symptoms you describe22:03
intraderSaberX01, doing it, let you know22:03
SaberX01ok22:03
wildonnup i min yo dont sit n piss22:04
Deisso?22:04
uBUXUBui just experienced some very odd behaviour with my ubuntu 1204 lts clean installation....22:04
irreverantNo, im using a dell mini 922:04
irreverantubuntu 12.0422:04
uBUXUBuwhen i booted up the desktopp was BLACK WITH THE NORMAL UNITY SIDE BAR SHOWING22:04
irreverantMonkeyDust: interesting right?22:05
uBUXUButhen i went into my pics and put a new desktop beackground on it and it worked22:05
cheryl_chow do i use gparted to partition a drive in ubuntu?22:05
uBUXUBumust be a bug22:05
irreverantSo if i make changes to the desktop behaviour i cannot select save or ok because the window dips below the boundary of my display=22:05
irreverantIm very frustrated and out of ideas22:05
jeeves_mosscheryl_c, launch a term and do "sudo gparted".22:06
intraderSaberX01, installs 2.7.3 which is what I tried to get rid of to upgrade. Nothing changed on the desktop22:06
irreverantI cant move it up further because the menu bar is always present and prevents the top border of the active window from overlapping or being ontop of the menu bar.22:06
uBUXUBunow from day to day i will never know what its going to do22:06
Deissoi tried something, gonna reboot22:06
irreverantwhich again prohibits the my ability to select the save or ok buttons at the bottom of the active window22:07
MonkeyDustirreverant  is the page useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DellMini9     <-- "last edited 2012-01-06"22:07
irreverantdoes this help explain my issue22:07
irreverant?22:07
SaberX01intrader, you can not del / remove python2.7 Ubuntu needs it to function properly .. whay version pythign do you need?22:07
SaberX01what version22:07
intraderSaberX01, looking at a tutorial by robertson what indicated that 2.7.3 was not the latests22:08
MonkeyDustirreverant  there are plenty sites and forums about the dell mini 9, methinks the hardware is not fit for ubuntu22:08
k1lirreverant: keep pressing "alt" key for showing windows22:08
DeissoMonkeyDust, I found my own answer22:10
Deissobut thanks anyways22:10
Deissobye22:10
irreverantWell the page sort of helps...22:10
MonkeyDustDeisso  share it with the channel22:10
bitnumushi, can someone tell me how to fit an image for ubuntu background full width across dual monitors? there is a setting called 'span' but this only fits to height22:10
SaberX01intrader, correct, python2.7.3 is nto the latestes, pything3.xx is latest but Ubuntu needs / requires python2.7x to function. You can install python3 side by side, and in your pything3 scripts add the shebang" #!/usr/bin/env python3 if you want p3thon 3 v.. python2.7.x22:10
irreverantyeah, its funny though since i purchased the oem product with a preinstalled ubuntu certified hardware compatibility and now its not fit for?22:11
irreveranttoo funny!22:11
uBUXUBuru opening with image viewer 1st??22:11
irreverantHere buy this with Ubuntu: but in less than a year it wont be supported by us... sounds a lot like microsoft.... no wait at least winblows still has support an additional 6 years22:12
irreveranti should have just stuck with red hat22:12
uBUXUBured hat? thats like mutiny?22:12
irreverantthe truth is no one here knows how to get the menu bar off the window22:12
michael__Hello22:12
k1lirreverant: last warning: stop the ranting. keep it to support in here22:12
michael__I am having a problem with a usb device22:13
k1l!details | irreverant22:13
ubottuirreverant: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."22:13
irreverantI have explained... how do i autohide the menu bar ontop of the desktop22:13
irreverantWhere the power button and wifi and email and time clock are all located at?22:13
k1lirreverant: there is no such option on unity.22:13
michael__irreverant: I don't think you can22:14
MonkeyDustirreverant  find "resolution" on this page, is it useful http://www.thanhsiang.org/faqing/node/15022:14
k1lirreverant: but i already told you, that you can shove that window with pressing the "alt"-key22:14
SaberX01irreverant, I gave you that answer 20 minutes ago: Dash, Appearance, Behavior, Auto-Hone On.Off slider.22:14
SaberX01Auto-Hide .. ..22:14
michael__I am trying to copy a blu ray disk into an iso image, but after about 60kb of data transferred, the reader disconnects and reconnects22:15
SaberX01irreverant, and a second answer was also given to use Ubuntu Tweak22:15
uBUXUBucareful with tweak it eventualy messes up22:16
SaberX01uBUXUBu, :-) .. my eventually needs gas too but hey, gets me from point A to Point B22:17
michael__Here is a pastebin showing the log of ddrescue: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6648020/22:17
uBUXUBuit does work...for awhile22:17
uBUXUBuubuntu is funny about...changing things from default22:17
michael__Can someone help me?22:18
SaberX01uBUXUBu, from a consistency standpoint, that's probably a good thing. For those that feel the need to tweak everythign, just because they can, probably not a good thing.22:18
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bekksuBUXUBu: Ubuntu doesnt change settings without user implication.22:18
SaberX01In any case, he given options, but chose either not to use them, or didn't not understand the direction given, not sure which.22:19
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uBUXUBui recall when ubuntu used to let you customize the top panel...but if you did it...in a week or 2 it would break...i jjust changed my desktop a few days ago...now it broke. luckily it let me fix it.22:20
PriceyuBUXUBu: That's the thing about Linux, you get to keep the pieces.22:23
uBUXUBuyeah22:23
uBUXUBustill lubb my 120422:23
uBUXUBubuts its a tad on the unstable side22:24
SaberX01I've have very few problems with 12.04 .. Desktop or Server .. has worked well for me.22:25
uBUXUBume too22:25
uBUXUBufor the most part22:26
adasis there a way with a script that moves a file that is put in a directory to another directory depending on the name and type of the file?22:26
demophobiaDoes doing the 'dd' command to erase the hard drive make any difference if I'm going to reformat it?22:27
SaberX01adas, yes, easily done .. you should ask in #bash though22:27
adasSaberX01: thanks!22:27
bekksdemophobia: Yes, big difference. dd overwrites disk blocks, while reformatting just puts an empty filesystem header onto a disk.22:28
MonkeyDustbrb22:29
Bashing-omdemophobia; In your use case, yes, in that you want to over-write the "bad" sectors, and maybe put that hard disk back to service.22:30
demophobiaSo does 'Erase or format the volume' in Disk Utility not accomplish that same result?22:30
SaberX01no22:31
demophobia'erase' doesn't do what 'dd' does?22:31
SaberX01I dont know homw many different ways these guys can answer the same question, they are differetn tools for different things, both of which have been stated, then restated.22:31
demophobiaSorry.22:32
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demophobiaThank you.22:32
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damarusamacan I setup a wireless network from the command line if I don't have iwconfig on my box?22:33
WhatIsTheMatrixi suppose  you could pipe the output of /dev/null into dd to "erase" stuff on a filesystem22:33
jhutchinsdamarusama: Probably not.22:33
damarusamano way to make a network config file and point the wlan0 to the proper essid/22:34
damarusama?22:34
jhutchinsdamarusama: You can always try, I don't know if the setup calls iwconfig to make the settings or something else.22:35
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demophobiaI'm looking at the command you gave me, "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1M", and now I'm trying to figure out how to ascertain the path I need to use for that drive. ...22:35
demophobiaoh, looking at Disk Utility, seems it's "/dev/sda"22:36
Bashing-omdemophobia; from the liveDVD, issue terminal command -> sudo fdisk -lu , sudo blkid <- To know the idebtity of the disks and partitions.22:37
demophobia'fdisk -lu' indicates it is '/dev/sda', while 'blkid' indicates it is '/dev/sda1' -- why is there a discrepancy? (Does blkid assign everything numbers?) Which should I use?22:42
Bashing-omdemophobia; If you are going to "dd" takes about an hour per gig. There is no respsonse in the original terminal for any status. see -> man dd <- for a means to open another terminal session and get a staus on what "dd" is doing.22:43
witoxWitam22:43
demophobiahour per gig?!22:43
bekksdemophobia: fdisk shows disks, while blkid shows filesystems.22:43
witoxyeye22:43
bekksdemophobia: And there is a filesystem on partition 1 of sda - sda1.22:43
demophobiaIs it really a good idea to spend 21 days (500 hours) 'dd' a 500 GB hard drive?22:44
bekksNo. Use bs=16M in addition.22:44
Bashing-omdemophobia' sda is the entire drive (1st recognized) and on that 1st drive are partitions, the first partition is 1, thus there is the nomenclature sda1 for the 1st hard dive-1st partition. and yeah, you want to write to the hard drive sd(a). But make double sure positive that sda is the drive in question.22:45
demophobiaThanks. I have. There is a flash drive connected, from which I am booting this Ubuntu distribution, '/dev/sdb' - the only other drive returned by 'sudo fdisk -lu' is the damaged 500 GB drive, '/dev/sda'.22:47
Bashing-omdemophobia; My error on time .. takes 5 hours to zero out a 500 gig drive . I have did so a few times, on my fast(er) system it does take 5 hours ! for 500 gigs.22:47
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admin-bI have 2 ponys22:48
demophobiabut that's using bs=16M, not bs=1M, right? So I should use bs=16M as you said.22:48
demophobialooks like bs=16M tells it to write "16 Megabytes" at a time (looking at 'man dd'), right? ...22:49
* demophobia isn't confident about anything, even obvious things.22:49
SaberX01IF you want to time it look at using PV: dd if=/dev/foo bs=8M | pv -s 500G | sudo dd of=/dev/baz bs=8M22:50
Bashing-omdemophobia; Block Space 16 Megs would be a LOT faster, but would it be as effective to over-write than 1M, I can not say.22:50
demophobiaSaberX01: I do not understand that command; 'man pv' to read about 'pv' -- if | is an operator to say 'execute these commands together' -- returns 'No manual entry for pv'22:51
SaberX01All he needs to do is add zero's to the blacks, then attempt an install ..22:51
SaberX01*blocks22:51
demophobiaYes, I think so.22:51
bekksdemophobia: pv just displays a progress bar.22:52
SaberX01demophobia, dont worry abotu PV sorry for confusing things even further.22:52
demophobiaSo should I execute "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1M" or "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=16M" or "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=8M"? Would that be 500*1024 MB / (option) length of time?22:52
demophobiai.e. 16M would take 32,000 seconds?22:53
demophobia(~9 hours)22:53
bekksdemophobia: bs=8M / bs=16M doesnt matter actually as long as you set it. the default is 512 Bytes, which will cause at least 16 times more write accesses than using 8M.22:53
bekkserrm. nope. 8M = 8192k = 8192 * 2 * 512.22:54
Npcare there installation images that fit on cd anymore other than the minimal 30MB?22:54
bekksdemophobia: 16k more writes. :)22:54
bekksNpc: No.22:54
TJ-demophobia: the bs=XXM value declares the maximum size of the read and write memory buffers allocated for each read/write operation. The larger the value - up to a certain point - the faster the transfers. Personally, I find using 100M gives the best balance of memory and speed for SATA/IDE devices22:54
Bashing-omNpc; Sure, see Lubuntu, Xubuntu, or a minimal install for instance.22:56
tacorwinDoes anyone know if it is possible to install a minimal version of Ubuntu onto a Raspberry Pi?22:56
SaberX01performance is a factor of disk cache .. but for this evolution, I dont see why the larger block sizes are not sufficient.22:56
demophobiaTJ-: Thank you, but Disk Utility says 'Connection: ATA'22:56
demophobiaI thought ATA was different from SATA22:57
* demophobia reads http://www.webopedia.com/DidYouKnow/Computer_Science/2007/sas_sata.asp22:57
TJ-demom: PATA and SATA are variations on ATA (the first is Parallel, the latter is Serial)22:57
NpcBashing-om: thanks, i'll look at the lubuntu and xubuntu distributions22:58
k1l_demophobia: pata and sata.22:58
demophobiak1l_: i'm guessing by 'pata' you mean 'Parallel ATA', since that webpage I mentioned says, "Serial ATA is an evolution of the Parallel ATA"22:58
k1l_yes, pata is known as IDE22:59
Bashing-omNpc; Lubuntu impresses me greatly, fast and effecient.22:59
SaberX01All this is probably better suited in #ubuntu-ot ..23:00
NpcBashing-om: sounds good for the computer i'm going to install it on23:00
demophobiaOk, so I'll try 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=16M'... Sounds good? ...23:01
Bashing-omLubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu23:03
otaktacorwin: i believe ubuntu arm is on a newer version than the rpi chip, can't find the link now but go to #raspberrypi23:04
SaberX01I don't understand the original question: "images that fit on cd anymore other than the minimal 30MB?"  standard ISO's going away or something ?23:04
jhutchinsNpc: It really doesn't matter which flavor you start with, you can install the alternatives on the same base system.23:04
demophobiabekks: I'm not sure how to estimate the time from what you've said. 500 GB -> 512,000 MB, and bs=BYTES 'read and write up to BYTES bytes at a time' -- doesn't putting '16M' mean '16 megabytes'?23:04
jhutchinsNpc: THere are about a dozen different desktops available - see http://freedesktop.org23:05
Npcjhutchins: sure23:05
tacorwinotak: thanks!23:05
tacorwinotak: thanks!23:05
jhutchinsNpc: Install as many as you like, pick the one that works best for you.23:05
bamphometi tried every distro possible before choosing one.23:06
bamphometand i ended up choosing 3 actually ;]23:06
nodiehi23:07
demophobiaIs it possible to interrupt a 'dd' command, perhaps by control+c or something? Could that damage the disk?23:07
bamphometoh your talking about window managers, nvm hehe23:07
nodieI'm having a strange problem with my laptop (acer 5750g, intel gpu) and my mouse cursor23:07
Rorynodie: Do we have to guess the problem, or are you going to tell us? ;)23:08
nodiewhen I run the desktop through gdm, lightdm or any other dm23:08
k1l_demophobia: yes, you can stop it with ctrl+c and no it will not damage23:08
nodiethe mouse cursor does not appear with some desktops (Awesomewm)23:08
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nodiewhile in gnome it's fine but does not appear when on qt windows for example23:08
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nodieI've read somewhere that it's because I need to activate the SWCursor in the xorg.conf file23:09
nodieand I've created a xorg.conf (Xorg :0 -configure) with SWCursor on23:09
nodiewhen I run the desktop from console (startx) it's fine, but when I run it with the DM I still have the problem23:09
nodieany idea on how can I fix this? it's pretty annoying23:10
tacorwinnodie: I'm sorry, what is it that you are trying to fix?23:11
nodietacorwin: as I explained, my mouse cursor disappears on certain desktops and on qt windows while in gnome23:12
nodiethe mouse works, it's just that the cursor doesn't show23:12
SaberX01nodie, you build this from source or a PPA ?23:13
nodieSaberX01: I didn't build anything, if for building you meant "compile"23:13
nodieI'm running Ubuntu 13.1023:14
tacorwinnodie: so, if you run "startx", you have no problems?23:14
SaberX01nodie, ok .. how did you install the wm was all I was asking.23:14
nodieSaberX01: "apt-get install" no PPA, standard Ubuntu 13.10 package23:15
nodietacorwin: yeap, with startx the cursor always appears (but only after using my own xorg.conf with SWCursor on)23:15
SaberX01nodie, ok thnx, it's not on 12.04 .. I dint use 13.x anything.23:15
SaberX01*dont23:15
nodieSaberX01: I don't expect it to be a bug on Ubuntu, but a misconfiguration or a HW problem/incompatibility23:17
CarlFKvar/log/lightdm.log says "…Failed to find session configuration default"  which probably explains why I don't get a gui login..23:17
SaberX01nodie, I take that back, it's in Universe ..23:18
themusicgod1is it a bug when aclocal / automake need to be run for a project to make?23:26
TJ-themusicgod1: Bug in what? Is there a particular ubuntu source package you're having problems with?23:27
themusicgod1TJ-: gnome-shell23:35
TJ-themusicgod1: If after pulling the package source, or using "apt-get source $PKG" it fails to build using "debian/rules build && fakeroot debian/rules binary" I'd say there is a local configuration issue, since all the packages have built successfully on the build servers in order to populate the binary archive repositories23:40
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intraderSaberX01, I am back after issuing a bunch of apt-get update, install ubuntu-desktop, dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-desktop thanks to TomatoGuy in #Ubuntu o freenode - on OLPC X023:45
nemodoes anyone know of a workaround for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/blcr/+bug/1236154 ?23:46
ubottuUbuntu bug 1236154 in blcr (Ubuntu) "blcr-dkms 0.8.5-2: blcr kernel module failed to build [configure: error: Unable to use kernel 3.11.0-031100-generic - unable to determine how to call attach_pid()]" [Undecided,Confirmed]23:46
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demophobiaI executed "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=16M" about 35 minutes ago. Thank you for the help. I hope it will go well.23:47
nemodemophobia: wooooah someone told you to wipe your HD?23:47
nemosure hope there was a good reason23:47
GerowenAnybody know of a tool I could use to censor out a portion of a video?  For example if my the license plate on my car is visible for about 5 seconds, is there something I could use to censor it out?23:47
demophobianemo: It was damaged, and I am seeing if I can install Linux on it, or if it's so damaged that it needs replacement.23:47
demophobiaAfter it finishes, would it be a good idea to use Disk Utility to 'erase or reformat' it prior to clicking 'Install Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS'?23:48
nemodemophobia: http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/642577-making-movies-in-linux-with-openshot-23:48
nemooh wait23:48
nemoGerowen: http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/642577-making-movies-in-linux-with-openshot-23:48
FloodBot1nemo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.23:48
nemouhhuh... thanks for not helping mr bot23:49
demophobiaby 'damaged' I mean it has bad sectors, among other issues, and some files necessary for booting into Vista Home Premium were corrupted so it BSOD, and Startup Repair and System Restore both fail.23:49
CarlFKGerowen: openshot .. you can define a region/start/end time to blur23:49
nemoCarlFK: yeah. that tutorial covers it a bit23:49
Gerowennemo:CarlFK: Thanks, :-)23:49
nemodemophobia: oh lovely.23:49
nemodemophobia: if it has bad sectors, like, if there's anything being reported in palimpsest/disc utility you prob want to trash that asap23:50
nemodemophobia: 'cause prob will just spread and grow over time23:50
demophobiaMy father wants to watch blu-ray movies. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD is not encouraging -- does Ubuntu formally take a 'hands off' approach to helping its users watch blu-ray?23:50
jhutchinsdemophobia: That's pretty unnecessary.  I'd just format it and install, then check for errors.23:50
nemodemophobia: prob w/ bluray, and there are channels for it on freenode, is that unfortunately while linux was one of the first to support the format, movie companies are not going to really support players on an open platform23:51
demophobiaThese three concerns Disk Utility reported: ''Reallocated Sector Count' has assessment 'Warning', Value 'Normalized: 100 / Worst: 100 / Threshold: 36 / Value: 230 sectors'', ''Airflow Temperature' has Assessment 'Failed in the past' with Value 'Normalized: 78 / Worst: 45 / Threshold: 45 / Value: 22 C / 72 F'', and ''Current Pending Sector Count' has Assessment 'Warning' with Value 'Normalized: 100 / Worst: 100 / Thre23:51
demophobiashold: 0 / Value: 158 sectors"'23:51
nemodemophobia: so. linux support is limited to discs that were produced with leaked keys23:51
nemodemophobia: very hit or miss.23:51
nemodecent for older movies23:51
nemodemophobia: DVD is totally fine23:51
demophobiajhutchins: Why do you think it is pretty unnecessary? Some others here have implied it would make a difference ...23:52
nemoprob a decent thing to do before trashing it to avoid info leaks23:52
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nemotrashing it or doing a return23:53
demophobiaIf it does come to disposing it, what should I do with it? Should I give it to someone?23:53
nemodemophobia: nope.23:53
nemodemophobia: that's just mean :)23:53
demophobiaI don't know if this ATA drive has any precious metals, etc.23:53
nemolol23:53
ObrienDavedemophobia, yea, about 5 buck worth LOL23:54
nemohm that dkms bug was reported a month and a half ago23:54
nemoObrienDave: that might be high side :)23:54
ObrienDavei was being generous ;P23:54
yofunIs there a way to wget a link such as http://forums.pocketmine.net/index.php?plugins/simpleauth.4/download&version=553 ?23:56
intraderSaberX01, thanks for your help - ubuntu really needs a better dependency manager23:56
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dramonsomeone knows the way to make android phone connect wireless to ubuntu hotspot?23:57
yofunIs there a way to wget a link such as http://forums.pocketmine.net/index.php?plugins/simpleauth.4/download&version=553 ?23:59

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