| bluesabre | Unit193: finally fixed the daily builds of lightdm-gtk-greeter in trusty | 00:22 |
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| bluesabre | ochosi: will probably do an official 1.7.0 release of the greeter tomorrow | 00:23 |
| bluesabre | and parole either tomorrow or saturday | 00:23 |
| Unit193 | Alrighty-o. | 00:24 |
| bluesabre | +1 on Noskcaj's comment on getting 4.11 components in soon | 00:25 |
| * Unit193 updates vm. | 00:27 | |
| * bluesabre installed a fedora-20-xfce vm today | 00:31 | |
| bluesabre | non-xubuntu xfce is not pretty | 00:32 |
| Unit193 | Fixed, eh? :P 201312270012~ubuntu14.04.1 | 00:33 |
| Unit193 | Not much in the new xfce4-terminal, crash fix and url selection fix. | 00:45 |
| Unit193 | http://git.xfce.org/apps/xfce4-terminal/commit/?id=a33597ba929fb4cccb3626b0329c4db297816385 | 00:45 |
| Unit193 | http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfwm4/commit/?id=2b800f4f994e0e3951fc221933705051329b75bd xfwm too, nice. Doesn't contain the new tabwin yet, and still has the zoom/transparency conflict. | 00:47 |
| ali12341 | what conflict is that? | 00:53 |
| Unit193 | Alt+scroll wheel on the title, no big deal I'd think. | 00:54 |
| ali12341 | i don't follow | 00:54 |
| ali12341 | alt+scroll on the title bar makes the window transparent? | 00:54 |
| ali12341 | zooming actually uses the easymove key | 00:55 |
| Unit193 | Mhmm, used to, never used it much, just remembered it randomly. | 00:55 |
| ali12341 | so you can change it | 00:55 |
| ali12341 | yeah changing it does make transparency work again | 00:57 |
| Unit193 | Yep, just tested. | 00:57 |
| * pleia2 adds link from drc | 03:49 | |
| ochosi | brainwash: yes, it was merged to master. i dunno whether it'll solve all the issues, but it's definitely an improvement | 06:57 |
| elfy | hi ochosi | 06:57 |
| ochosi | ey | 06:58 |
| * ochosi is already on his way out again | 06:59 | |
| ochosi | later | 06:59 |
| elfy | :) | 06:59 |
| elfy | Noskcaj ochosi bug 1264448 | 07:23 |
| ubottu | bug 1264448 in xfce4-indicator-plugin (Ubuntu) "Date time undersized" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1264448 | 07:23 |
| Noskcaj | It's fine for me on trust gtk2 | 07:28 |
| Noskcaj | but i do shrink my panel | 07:28 |
| Noskcaj | But it's a PPA issue, so i'll check it when my dev pc get's set up | 07:29 |
| Noskcaj | Does it work without the shimmer PPA? | 07:31 |
| elfy | Noskcaj: it might be ok in gtk2 - but we need to be looking at these gtk3 things - we aren't shipping gtk2 :) | 07:31 |
| elfy | and I had the same issue with it when I built the gtk3 stuff rather than your ppa and without the shimmer one | 07:32 |
| Noskcaj | ok. | 07:32 |
| elfy | we need to have some sort of record of these issues - there might be a bug for it/or people might be aware of it | 07:33 |
| brainwash | ochosi: so I want the new terminal icon to be changed/reverted back.. did you create it or who did and how can I inform the creator? | 11:42 |
| brainwash | xubuntu-icon-theme | 11:43 |
| brainwash | it's too dark, almost plain black and every time I see it I dislike it even more | 11:45 |
| forestpiskie | some people without their glasses on can't actually see it -the white $_ just looks like a blur - it wouldn't actually be an issue to me if the panel itself wasn't almost black too | 12:16 |
| brainwash | right, people use the icons (window buttons in the panel) for better orientation | 12:35 |
| brainwash | but black on black is hard to spot | 12:35 |
| hugoangelo | hi all, I just starting testing (1st time) package Mousepad on Xubuntu and verified that the test results don't match the ones on the testcases. I believe that these are not bugs, but for beginners as myself is a bit confusing. Is there a way to inform the responsible for the testcases to check them or should I ignore an keep testing other packages? | 14:14 |
| hugoangelo | I tried to submit the test as failed, but without a bug number it won't let me | 14:15 |
| hugoangelo | should I submit as passed with some text on the comments box? | 14:16 |
| brainwash | hugoangelo: I don't know how testing works exactly, but why not create a bug report on launchpad and then link to it? | 14:17 |
| hugoangelo | ok, tks | 14:19 |
| elfy | hugoangelo: hi | 14:30 |
| elfy | what is it about the testcase you think is wrong? | 14:30 |
| elfy | you can in fact do a bug for that | 14:30 |
| hugoangelo | - On "This test will check that Mousepad can find and highlight searched text", step 6, the selected "the" is the second one because of step 5. This makes steps 6 and 7 inaccurate. | 14:31 |
| hugoangelo | - On "This test will check that Mousepad can find and replace text, including case sensitivity and saves on close", step 13, since on step 1 we use a new document, the "Save as" dialog is presented (without closing Mousepad). | 14:31 |
| hugoangelo | Probably these are not bugs (hence I did not report them), but these testcases should be updated so beginners as myself won't get confused. | 14:31 |
| hugoangelo | (sorry about this copy/paste from the comment I was going to send) | 14:31 |
| elfy | hang on - logging onto the tracker | 14:31 |
| elfy | mmm - I remember now - the bug link is missing from packages | 14:32 |
| elfy | hugoangelo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+filebug | 14:33 |
| elfy | then make sure to put the testcase number in the bug text | 14:33 |
| hugoangelo | I'm just new at this, actually this is my first test so I'm really just kinda lost | 14:33 |
| elfy | we're pretty quick at getting those bugs sorted out | 14:33 |
| elfy | hugoangelo: yep, that's understood | 14:34 |
| elfy | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-website/+bug/1210728 | 14:35 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1210728 in Ubuntu QA Website "Report a testcase bug missing from package tracker" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 14:35 |
| elfy | hugoangelo: you can me too this one as well :) | 14:35 |
| hugoangelo | ok | 14:37 |
| elfy | and as far as the package test goes - if the testcase is wrong - but you'd pass it if the testcase was correct - then pass it - just note that there is an issue with the testcase | 14:38 |
| elfy | don't fail mousepad because the testcase needs to be fixed :) | 14:39 |
| elfy | does that make sense? | 14:39 |
| hugoangelo | ups | 14:39 |
| hugoangelo | ok, updated to pass ;) | 14:40 |
| hugoangelo | tks | 14:40 |
| elfy | welcome :) | 14:40 |
| elfy | and thanks for joining in - your input is appreciated | 14:42 |
| hugoangelo | :) | 14:42 |
| brainwash | elfy: I can confirm that the time string gets truncated | 15:06 |
| brainwash | "Date time undersized" | 15:06 |
| brainwash | but we won't use the date/time indicator, so not a big deal as of now | 15:07 |
| brainwash | with the now fixed indicator-sound-gtk2 package we could even delay gtk3 indicators until 14.10, just a thought | 15:10 |
| elfy | brainwash: again we're back to the who or where does it say "we won't use the date/time indicator" | 15:21 |
| elfy | I've not seen that said by anyone apart from you :) | 15:21 |
| elfy | it's certainly not on the roadmap | 15:22 |
| elfy | and I would hate to see gtk3 not get into trusty | 15:22 |
| elfy | and if we don't then we need to look at all the old gtk2 inds we don't have anymore and get them in | 15:24 |
| elfy | messages for one | 15:24 |
| elfy | they have all been falling by the wayside release by release - and if we all have is sound in gtk2 and we don't get gtk3 then we should lose the whole lot | 15:25 |
| andrzejr | brainwash, elfy, datetime should be fixed in xfce4-indicator-master (I hope) | 15:40 |
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| elfy | andrzejr: ok - thanks for letting me know | 16:06 |
| pleia2 | ElderDryas: thanks for the link re: Xubuntu #2 | 16:41 |
| pleia2 | I forgot to bring a copy of the 14.04 iso on this trip, booooo | 16:42 |
| * pleia2 attempts download over lousy wifi | 16:42 | |
| ElderDryas | pleia2: np | 16:46 |
| ElderDryas | lousy or lossy :) | 16:47 |
| pleia2 | both ;) thank goodness for tcp and rsync | 16:48 |
| brainwash | elfy: doesn't date/time require the unity settings manager for configuration? | 17:05 |
| brainwash | same for indicator-power | 17:05 |
| brainwash | and indicator-session I assume | 17:08 |
| brainwash | "we" only want the minimum amount of unity in xubuntu, right? | 17:08 |
| Unit193 | We already bring in enough with indicator-sound. | 17:10 |
| brainwash | but it does not require the settings manager, only pavucontrol | 17:11 |
| Unit193 | Because of how the seeds work, we pull gnome-control-center onto the ISO. | 17:12 |
| brainwash | so this question needs to be answered: should current panel items get replaced by the gtk3 indicator equivalents? | 17:13 |
| brainwash | date/time/, power, session | 17:13 |
| Unit193 | I've stuck to 2 because the new panel doesn't handle color/bg/transparency. Indicators are more likely to break than "panel items" | 17:15 |
| brainwash | but this transparency issue will get fixed eventually | 17:15 |
| brainwash | on top of that, you can place panel item everywhere you like, indicators are bound to the indicator area | 17:17 |
| brainwash | and you cannot change the order I think | 17:17 |
| Unit193 | Well, may have to go with power if xfpm isn't "fixed" to work with sysd. | 17:18 |
| brainwash | already fixed | 17:18 |
| brainwash | PPA only as of now | 17:18 |
| brainwash | currently we got all the new stuff spread across various PPAs | 17:19 |
| brainwash | and branches | 17:20 |
| Unit193 | Mhmm. | 17:20 |
| Unit193 | I was thinking upstream, in Debian and preferred in Xfce. | 17:21 |
| brainwash | not sure what the guys upstream intend to do | 17:22 |
| brainwash | bug 1222021 | 17:23 |
| ubottu | bug 1222021 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "xfce4-power-manager does not inhibit systemd from handling buttons and lid events" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1222021 | 17:23 |
| brainwash | includes links to debian and xfce | 17:23 |
| brainwash | and it already has been fixed in OpenSUSE | 17:23 |
| brainwash | Unit193: did you build xfwm4 tabwin with MONITOR_ROOT_PIXMAP enabled? | 17:26 |
| brainwash | I mean to activate the smooth greeter -> desktop transition | 17:30 |
| andrzejr | brainwash, transparency is fixed in xfce4-panel master. Current solution will probably not work with a future gtk3 panel but that's another issue. | 17:42 |
| andrzejr | brainwash, you can change order of indicators in the indicator plugin. | 17:43 |
| brainwash | andrzejr: I did apply the "Fix transparency issues with GTK3 plugins" fix, but it did not change anything at all, so let me try and rebuild again | 17:43 |
| andrzejr | You can also use multiple indicator plugins if you prefer to distribute the indicators across the panel. | 17:43 |
| brainwash | ok, gonna try to change order too :) | 17:43 |
| brainwash | awesome | 17:44 |
| andrzejr | brainwash, are you using xfce4-panel/master branch? | 17:44 |
| brainwash | using Noskcaj's PPA | 17:45 |
| brainwash | and did a simple rebuild | 17:45 |
| brainwash | with this particular fix | 17:46 |
| brainwash | so there is most likely something wrong on my end | 17:47 |
| andrzejr | hmm.. noskcaj's package is based on wrapper3 branch but the patch should still apply cleanly. Let me know if you spot any issues. | 17:50 |
| ochosi | brainwash: it was merged from elementary upstream, best to complain there | 17:56 |
| brainwash | andrzejr: ok | 17:57 |
| brainwash | ochosi: so we just use the new one? | 17:57 |
| brainwash | eOS uses plank, so there shouldn't be any problems with a plain dark icon | 17:59 |
| ochosi | brainwash: can you file an issue on github so i remember to take care of it next year | 18:02 |
| brainwash | ochosi: alright | 18:04 |
| brainwash | oh, almost forgot about this.. parole 0.5.90, about dialog shows a blurry icon | 18:05 |
| ochosi | ty | 18:05 |
| brainwash | 0.5.2 reserves a smaller area for the icon | 18:06 |
| brainwash | so we might need a high res version of the parole icon :) | 18:07 |
| brainwash | in trusty | 18:07 |
| ochosi | mm, good point, we should look into that too | 18:08 |
| ochosi | currwntly we have 64px i think | 18:08 |
| brainwash | and sorry for bothering you with low res icons once again (remember the trash icon?) | 18:08 |
| ochosi | np | 18:10 |
| ochosi | bbl | 18:12 |
| Unit193 | brainwash: Yes. | 18:22 |
| Unit193 | (Isn't smooth for me yet, seems xfsettingsd and/or /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc sets it black. | 18:26 |
| brainwash | Unit193: ah, you already mentioned this | 18:51 |
| brainwash | strange =S | 18:52 |
| Unit193 | Mhmm. | 18:52 |
| Unit193 | Still, cuts down on the grey, I notice now more because the netbook doesn't have it. | 18:52 |
| brainwash | will or does bug 1193716 affect xubuntu trusty? | 18:58 |
| ubottu | bug 1193716 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Monitor turns off after 10 minutes of inactivity despite the fact that XScreensaver has been removed from Lubuntu" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1193716 | 18:58 |
| brainwash | I'll test that | 19:00 |
| ochosi | brainwash: that's supposedly X11's buitlin screensaver extension | 19:07 |
| ochosi | i think the powermanager doesnt control that extension | 19:08 |
| brainwash | yes | 19:13 |
| brainwash | so, what to do? | 19:13 |
| Unit193 | brainwash: You have a seemless transition now right? | 19:13 |
| brainwash | Unit193: yes, no blank screen at all | 19:14 |
| Unit193 | Hrm, mind trying xfwm and/or xfdesktop from ppa? | 19:15 |
| Unit193 | Is your setup non-standard? | 19:15 |
| brainwash | yes, it's a mess | 19:16 |
| brainwash | do you also use upstream lightdm-gtk-greeter? | 19:17 |
| brainwash | which contains the root background fixes | 19:17 |
| Unit193 | From the daily ppa, in vbox yep. | 19:18 |
| brainwash | ok, so I'll test your PPA packages in few minutes | 19:19 |
| brainwash | ochosi: should xfce4-power-manager be marked as invalid package then? | 19:20 |
| brainwash | invalid or wishlist | 19:20 |
| ochosi | brainwash: i guess wishlist, but anyway, this should be fixed upstream somehow | 19:21 |
| ochosi | but as there is no maintainer, i'm not sure | 19:21 |
| brainwash | or via light-locker and it's non existing gui settings window :) | 19:23 |
| ochosi | feel free to submit a patch for that one ;) | 19:23 |
| elfy | brainwash: I got that 10 minutes inactivity thing going on here - not sure what it's caused by, must be something in one of the ppa's - with a clean vanilla install I didn't have it | 19:24 |
| brainwash | it's caused by the X server | 19:24 |
| elfy | needs to be fixed whatever it is though | 19:25 |
| brainwash | vanilla install? you mean with xscreensaver? | 19:25 |
| ochosi | just a setting | 19:25 |
| elfy | brainwash: yea | 19:25 |
| elfy | install from iso - not happening | 19:25 |
| brainwash | right, xscreensaver does allow to change the settings | 19:25 |
| elfy | yep | 19:25 |
| brainwash | and it can even show screensavers, lots of them :) | 19:26 |
| brainwash | it's so superior xD | 19:26 |
| brainwash | I will try to work on solution for light-locker or xfce4-power-manager | 19:28 |
| brainwash | but I usually get distracted by other projects | 19:28 |
| ochosi | sounds good | 19:31 |
| ochosi | anyway, g2g, bbl | 19:31 |
| brainwash | Unit193: installed your packages and I cannot spot any black screen flicker | 20:40 |
| Unit193 | Good. Thanks. | 20:40 |
| brainwash | tabwin seems to work (first time actually seeing it) | 20:40 |
| Unit193 | Of course it does, main reason for that to exist, quite like it. So, did you happen to do anything weird with xfce4-session? | 20:41 |
| brainwash | no | 20:41 |
| brainwash | http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfdesktop/commit/?id=596ac7b07939b3b93c6253b2db704a91e68e75d0 | 20:42 |
| brainwash | is great too :) | 20:42 |
| brainwash | it should be the default xfce4-session binary and (xubuntu) config | 20:42 |
| brainwash | can you verify the black flicker with a new user account? | 20:43 |
| Unit193 | Sure, still happens. | 20:53 |
| brainwash | and the culprit is xfce4-session? | 20:55 |
| brainwash | or unknown? :) | 20:56 |
| Unit193 | Unknown technically, yes. :) | 20:56 |
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