[02:12] <meteor42> hello? someone here?
[02:15] <ianorlin> hi
[02:16] <ianorlin> how can I help?
[02:16] <meteor42> hi! sometimes I get a kernel panic without an obvious reason...
[02:16] <meteor42> What could cause this?
[02:17] <ianorlin> not sure without reason doesn't really help me
[02:18] <meteor42> ok! thank you anyway! :)
[02:18] <meteor42> maybe its just the age of my harfware...
[02:18] <ianorlin> see if there is something you are doing then I might be able to find out why
[02:19] <ianorlin> running memtest at startup might help if it is bad ram causing it and memtest is also on livecd
[02:19] <meteor42> I think its more when I'm sutfing in the internet
[02:19] <meteor42> ok, I'll try that.
[02:19] <meteor42> *surfing
[02:19] <meteor42> thank you very much indeed!
[03:47] <mikeb2013> hi everyone- lubuntu noob here, cant get any sound
[03:48] <mikeb2013> but i can when i boot into another os- so the hardware is good
[03:48] <mikeb2013> and ive tried messing with pulse audio and the one in the terminal
[03:49] <mikeb2013> any ideas?
[03:49] <SonikkuAmerica> Well... Lubuntu doesn't use PulseAudio by default; it uses ALSA
[03:50] <mikeb2013> alsa, yes, thats the one in the terminal that i checked
[03:50] <mikeb2013> i unmuted it, but still nothing
[03:53] <mikeb2013> when i look at configuration, it says essentially that there is nothing to configure
[03:55] <SonikkuAmerica> Sadly, I don't know squat about ALSA... all my Ubuntu stuff is done via PulseAudio...
[03:56] <mikeb2013> ok, thank you- would you be able to help me set it up through pulseaudio?
[03:56] <mikeb2013> I am looking at the manager right now
[03:56] <mikeb2013> for devices, it says "dummy output"
[03:57] <mikeb2013> is it not detecting my soundcard?
[03:58] <ianorlin> can you run aplay -l to list devices in the terminal
[03:59] <mikeb2013> sure, hold on 1 sec
[04:00] <mikeb2013> it says "list of PLAYBACK Hardware devices, then lists none
[04:02] <ianorlin> can you run lspci in terminal?
[04:02] <mikeb2013> y
[04:03] <ianorlin> to list other hardware things so I can search for a solution
[04:03] <mikeb2013> lots of stuff came up
[04:03] <ianorlin> !pastebinit
[04:04] <mikeb2013> ok, one sec please
[04:10] <mikeb2013> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6649311/
[04:11] <mikeb2013> sorry that it took so long, a new thing for me
[04:11] <ianorlin> understandable
[04:15] <holstein> aplay -l should list what alsa can use
[04:16] <holstein> maybe your device doesnt support linux. but, the intel stuff usually works well out of the box
[04:16] <holstein> mikeb2013: has it ever worked in linux before?
[04:19] <ianorlin> sigh he seemed to understand things
[04:30] <mikeb2013> and thank you for the help, by the way
[04:31] <ianorlin> have you foudn a solution?
[04:31] <mikeb2013> no
[04:32] <mikeb2013> just making sure that i remembered to thank you- I am overwhelmed over here and really appreciate it
[04:33] <ianorlin> does running alsamixer from terminal or volume app work?
[04:33] <mikeb2013> hold on, let me check
[04:35] <mikeb2013> I uninstalled and installed alsa several times- let me get it working again
[04:36] <mikeb2013> hmm- still says "no such device"
[04:39] <mikeb2013> so no, alsamixer from terminal not working
[04:39] <ianorlin> did it work on a livecd?
[04:40] <mikeb2013> y
[04:40] <ianorlin> then it could be settings messed up
[04:40] <mikeb2013> before installation, y
[04:41] <ianorlin> it worked before installation?
[04:41] <mikeb2013> yes
[04:41] <ianorlin> on lubuntu or other linux right
[04:41] <mikeb2013> on both, actually
[04:42] <mikeb2013> when running the os from usb to test it out, i had sound
[04:42] <mikeb2013> when i boot into regular ubuntu, it works
[04:43] <mikeb2013> on one hdd i have ubuntu, and it works
[04:43] <mikeb2013> on this hdd with lubuntu, nothing, but it worked before i chose to install it
[04:45] <mikeb2013> i am going to reboot and come back- just played with a few settings- unless you have another idea
[04:46] <mikeb2013> ok see you in a few
[05:04] <ianorlin> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iTlJ8BfqXUjaHO__TEdlkvuqB1WLOkGaudngc5SFLMI/edit# has a command AC that I am not sure of in procedure AC for forcing alsa to recognize your cards
[06:48] <Temper> sweet
[06:48] <Temper> there is a lubuntu channel :)
[06:49] <ianorlin> there is also #lubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[06:51] <Temper> hey.. i installed kickstart so i have the command /usr/sbin/system-config-kickstart but i get attributeerror: 'module' object has no attribute 'parsetagfile'
[06:52] <Temper> i found a website with a diff file to patch it, but i couldn't find the download itself
[06:53] <Temper> hrmm i dunno is this offtopic?
[06:53]  * ianorlin doesn't use kickstart so I wouldn't know
[06:54] <Temper> yeah i normally do not either
[06:54] <Temper> is kickstart the same across all ubuntu of the same ver? like 13.10
[06:55]  * ianorlin doesn't know about kickstart and I had to look up what it was
[06:55] <Temper> u know.. install ubuntu and then build the kickstart on ubuntu to use on lubuntu?
[06:55] <Temper> oh ok.. nm maybe someone else knows..
[08:08] <lll> hello. Would any know anything about fixing lubuntu suspend problems? If I click suspend, the screen turns off for a second, then on to a black, at which point I have to reboot to do anything.
[08:57] <junka> yeah its a bug
[11:42] <freeroute> hi all, happy holidays :)
[11:43] <freeroute> is it common for the Ubiquity installer to crash or freeze during USB installs?
[12:04] <freeroute> I wanted to install Lubuntu 13.10 x86 on an 8gb USB stick for a friend of mine who wasn't into Linux yet. So I booted into the live environment, inserted the empty USB stick and started the Ubiquity installer. After creating partitions it kept freezing.
[12:04] <freeroute> not the best introduction to Linux lol
[12:07] <xnox> freeroute: use usb-creator to create bootable ubuntu usb sticks, either "livecd" mode or with "persistent storage"
[12:08] <xnox> freeroute: ubiquity is meant to install ubuntu proper, not for a portable installation.
[12:10] <freeroute> xnox: ah, so it's ill-advised I dd the Lubuntu .iso image to a USB stick the way I did? I remember doing the same thing on another machine and it ended up working (although it was an older Lubuntu version I believe)
[12:25] <jared> freedomrun: xnox appears to have stepped out, but yes, using dd to create installation media is not the preferred method for Ubuntu. For some other ideas check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick however I would just recommend using the usb-creator available from within Ubuntu if it's available to you
[12:26] <jared> freeroute: sorry, that was meant for you
[12:26] <jared> freedomrun: apologies for the incorrect ping
[12:30] <freedomrun> np jared
[12:31] <jared> I was one letter too quick on the tab autocomplete :)
[12:54] <xnox> freedomrun: dd is perfectely correct way to create installation media.
[12:54] <xnox> freedomrun: and that is supported and works.
[12:54] <xnox> freedomrun: however, i was under impression you used ubiquity to install onto a usb-stick, rather than internal hard-drive.
[12:54] <xnox> freedomrun: that is not well supported.
[13:02] <freeroute> jared & xnox - it's strange, I've installed elementary OS successfully on a USB stick (from a USB stick containing an .iso image which was copied there using dd) without using usb-creator.
[13:02] <freeroute> also, freeroute instead of freedomrun :p
[13:02] <xnox> freeroute: the part of "on to a usb stick" is not well supported.
[13:03] <xnox> freeroute: and may or may not continue to work.
[13:03] <freeroute> so how do I install Lubuntu on a USB stick? Is it currently not (well) supported?
[13:03] <xnox> freeroute: the right way to setup portable usb-stick installation is using usb-creatro, or using dd/cp+bootloader and creating persistence partition.
[13:03] <freeroute> I see
[13:03] <xnox> freeroute: don't use ubiquity =)
[13:04] <xnox> freeroute: you can e.g. use alternate installer with better success rates.
[13:04] <xnox> installing onto usb stick is quite non-deterministic with ubiquity.
[13:05] <freeroute> ah ok, so it's a current issue with ubiquity then
[13:05] <xnox> freeroute: it's not meant to do that. so it's not an issue per-se, rather a design/use-case limitation.
[13:07] <freeroute> would be fitting to write down some kind of warning somewhere during the ubuquity install procedure which tells exactly this
[13:15] <freeroute> I'm now trying to create a startup disk using usb-creator with reserved extra space. Where exactly do I specify to encrypt the home directory? I couldn't find anything in the official docs - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[15:16] <xnox> freeroute: usb-creator does not support making the usb stick encrypted.
[15:17] <xnox> freeroute: if we could reliably detect that target is removal usb stick, we'd make ubiquity work with persistent installation onto removable media....
[15:18] <xnox> freeroute: to be honest, i'd recommend Wubi to people who want to try ubuntu without repartitioning their windows machines.
[15:18] <xnox> freeroute: and that does support home-folder encryption.
[15:18] <xnox> freeroute: unless one has Windows8/UEFI-only machine, Wubi works correctly and is supported.
[15:47] <dzho> ok, lubuntuistas
[15:48] <dzho> when I copy a URL and then paste it into irssi, a ^V character carries over, which puts the URL in reverse video
[15:48] <dzho> this is not necessarily the desired effect
[15:48] <dzho> if I think about it, I can move to the beginning of the line and delete the ^V, but this is annoying to have to do
[15:49] <dzho> what's more, this was not a problem with stock ubuntu (precise) and so my habit is not to look for it
[17:32] <HiItsNick> hey guys
[17:33] <HiItsNick> does lubuntu use the same commands as ubunut?
[17:33] <HiItsNick> ubuntu*