[00:50] <Tex> New here hi room
[00:50] <penguin42> Hi Tex
[01:09] <ThomasB> hi
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> ive read that 14.04 will support ssd TRIM by default, anyone saw signs of that yet?
[12:41] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[20:11] <sergio-br2> hi
[20:22] <penguin42> hey
[21:17] <hyper_ch> hi there, testing alpha 1 and I notcied I can't boot into kde... I get to lightdm that asks for my password and then it just freezes.... using kernel 3.11 from saucy is no problem
[21:18] <hyper_ch> is there a way to troubleshoot that?
[21:18] <penguin42> hyper_ch: 1st question is how frozen is it; does capslock work? Does the mouse still move?
[21:18] <hyper_ch> penguin42: nothing works... not even fall back to a terminal with alt-f2
[21:19] <penguin42> that's ctrl-alt-f2
[21:19] <penguin42> hyper_ch: Have you got another machine you can ssh into it when it's in that state?
[21:19] <penguin42> hyper_ch: The other place I'd look is /var/log/lightdm
[21:20] <hyper_ch> sorry, I meant ctrl-alf + f2
[21:20] <hyper_ch> well, having an Optimus platform and I was eager to test out since that should now be supported in the kernel instead of bumblebee
[21:21] <hyper_ch> upon next reboot I'll try 3.12 and check then lightdm log
[21:21] <penguin42> hyper_ch: Yeh so there are a bunch of separate logs in there; for X when lightdm runs it, for lightdm itself and for the greeter that actually takes your password
[21:21] <hyper_ch> just found that out :)
[21:21] <penguin42> hyper_ch: If you have something else on the network it's worth seeing if you can ssh in to see what state it's in
[21:22] <hyper_ch> penguin42: I figured I won't try to ssh in since fallback to teminal didn't work but I might do so :)
[21:23] <penguin42> hyper_ch: Yeh I mean it's worth a go - it all depends what broke
[21:23] <hyper_ch> thx
[21:23] <hyper_ch> trying tomorrow
[21:23] <penguin42> If just the display stuff that's screwed then ssh in and you might be able to see a bit more
[21:24] <penguin42> Being optimus, I'd also try dissabling that and see if it survives
[21:24] <hyper_ch> not even sure if I can disable optimus
[21:24] <hyper_ch> been a long time since I checked the bios
[21:25] <penguin42> the ones I've used have a 3 way choice between intel only, nvidia only, optimus mode
[21:25] <hyper_ch> not sure if mine offers that
[21:25] <hyper_ch> as said, been a while
[21:26] <hyper_ch> btw, there's still problem with manual encryption selection upon installaion
[21:26] <hyper_ch> chose manual partitioning, make 1st partition for boot, make 2nd partition and select for encryption --> then you're screwed because installer doesn't continue
[21:27] <hyper_ch> so I still use the 12.04.3 alternate installed and do a release-upgrade