[04:58] <Amirh> hi
[04:58] <Amirh> finally a malaysian channel
[05:15] <Amirh> hi
[05:21] <Romance> korg ada masalah x connect apa2 server USA?
[05:22] <Romance> byk vps aku based kat USA ni x dpt connect..terpaksa guna ssh tunnel kat vps eropah
[05:22] <Romance> twitter pn x dpt buka kalo xguna proxy eropah
[05:22] <Amirh> Romance: Can you speak English?
[05:23] <Romance> sure
[05:25] <Amirh> I used google to find android developer communities in Malaysia, I found some but not active.
[05:25] <Amirh> do you have any suggestion?
[05:26] <Amirh> Romance
[05:26] <Romance> meh..good luck you wont find much
[05:26] <Romance> but why are you looking for them?
[05:27] <Amirh> I used to live in Malaysia
[05:27] <Romance> aight
[05:27] <Amirh> I want to get back there by a job offer
[05:27] <Amirh> I know php too.
[05:27] <Amirh> generally can program in any language
[05:27] <Amirh> also java.
[05:27] <Amirh> familar with ruby
[05:27] <Amirh> by I think android has a promissed future.
[05:28] <Romance> are you okay with cheap salary?
[05:28] <Romance> i dont think you can get high salary in Malaysia even if you are a pro
[05:28] <Amirh> give me a number
[05:28] <Amirh> in RM
[05:28] <mypapit> yup
[05:28] <Romance> avg below RM4000
[05:28] <mypapit> kinda agree with that
[05:29] <Amirh> no that's not ok. at least 5000 RM
[05:29] <Romance> good luck with that
[05:29] <Romance> try find a job in SG
[05:29] <Amirh> how much I need to provide for I and my wife a normal living?
[05:30] <Amirh> in malaysia
[05:31] <Romance> what is your standards of normal living
[05:32] <Amirh> rent an apartment, buying a car, ...
[05:32] <mypapit> what kind of car? is the wife working too?
[05:33] <Romance> there are few cheap apartments around KL but you have to take a risk, mostly are criminal area
[05:33] <Amirh> no nt working
[05:34] <Amirh> an avaerage proton, 20-25 thousands RM
[05:39] <Romance> dont know bro
[05:39] <Romance> try looking for decent job in SG
[05:39] <Romance> a housemaid salary in SG = engineer salary in Malaysia
[05:40] <Romance> or just go to europe, they pay you $30/hour
[05:40] <mypapit> dunno if you can get 5k in .my.... i think mostly the average is around 2.5k - 3.5k
[05:42] <Amirh> oh ok
[05:42] <Amirh> thank you anyway
[05:43] <Amirh> I'm a little better than an ordinary developer, I have to enrich my github repo to make a proof
[05:44] <Romance> may i look into your github
[05:45] <Amirh> it's not enriched yet. I didn't know it could help to find a job. but here: https://github.com/Amirhb
[06:07] <excalibr> Amirh, find a job in singapore but stay in jb (malaysia)
[06:07] <excalibr> :P
[06:07] <Amirh> you're not serious.
[06:08] <excalibr> No im. lot of our malaysian fellow do that
[06:09] <Romance> excalibr: bro ko dapat access twitter ke at least?
[06:11] <Romance> aku xleh buka guna IP streamyx..bila guna ssh tunnel baru boleh
[06:19] <excalibr> bole je ni
[06:20] <excalibr> tu la kan dah kena sekat dgn skmm..lain kali jgn post twit yg menyindir big mama
[06:20] <excalibr> hehe
[06:20] <Romance> dah boleh da..tadi sejam x dpt langsung
[06:20] <Romance> ni masalah stimix kat area sini la ni
[06:21] <excalibr> maybe routing dia tgh kacau kot
[06:24] <Romance> excalibr: tapi apsal facebook gmail google boleh pula..twitter ni server dia kat USA je ke..gile kedekut 
[06:31] <excalibr> :)
[06:39] <mypapit> :p
[13:22] <unitepotsmokers> helow