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foobarryhttp://petapixel.com/2013/12/27/100-year-old-box-exposed-negatives-discovered-conservators-antarctica/07:18
mappsthat Lillyhammer looks good!07:19
brobostigongood morning boys and girls.10:04
MartijnVdS\o brobostigon10:25
brobostigonmorning MartijnVdS10:25
foobarryFacebook is ?dead and buried? to young people, who are fleeing the site to escape their parents, a major study of social media has found.10:27
foobarryThe project?s lead researcher dealt the ultimate blow to the formerly ground-breaking social media site, saying it was "simply not cool any more."10:28
MartijnVdSwell that settles it then10:28
brobostigonand using what insted?10:28
MartijnVdSG+ of course, until the kids start to hate that10:29
shaunothe premise is that most of them are using fb because their parents want somewhere they can stay in touch10:29
brobostigoni dont think kids will use g+, it seems far to techinically orientated.10:29
shaunoon that grounds, G+ is already for grownups, so has lost that one before it was even out the gate10:29
foobarryg+ is for tech and photos10:29
MartijnVdSok.. tumblr then10:30
foobarrygonna make site called beliebo10:30
foobarrykids are probably more likely to click ads10:30
brobostigonand mess up their windows machines with viriii10:31
MartijnVdSand then not buy the service10:31
shaunoif we're clever, we'll stop letting one service 'win', and force them to play nicely together10:34
foobarry"mummy please can you buy me this thing all my frineds have"10:34
brobostigon(insert I-device name here)10:35
foobarry" Teenagers are gravitating instead towards sites like Snapchat and Twitter, the former because interactions leave no permanent record."10:43
foobarryteens/kids will always want to do same but different10:44
foobarrywhat happened to bebo?10:45
foobarryshauno: thats not very capitalist? next you'll want it to be easy to transfer money vetweens banks and change energy provider in 1 week10:46
MooDoohello all11:05
MartijnVdS\o11:10
brobostigonmorning MooDoo11:10
MooDoohows MartijnVdS brobostigon11:11
* MartijnVdS pokes at chef a bit more11:11
brobostigonnot bad over, and you MooDoo ?11:11
brobostigonoverall*11:11
MooDooyeah I'm ok, at work at mo waiting to pic the family up at 12 they are at a play :D11:12
MartijnVdSyour family of PICs? ;)11:13
brobostigon:)11:13
MartijnVdSPicts? ;)11:13
MooDoopick :D lol11:13
MooDooor they could be picts, armed with their swords :D11:13
brobostigonlol11:14
foobarryanyone had issues with a youtube video that works on phone but loses audio after about 90% stage on youtube version?11:20
brobostigonandroid or ios, youtube app or in browser?11:21
MartijnVdSI haven't had problems on Android, Chromebook or PC11:23
MartijnVdSor the "Youtube" app on my TV11:23
foobarryin browser11:27
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MartijnVdSHah: http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/16226/trolling-homework-questions-sorting13:40
nigelbThat was bloody brilliant :D13:40
MartijnVdSthe C# example.. there was a C# coder at the previous place I worked at that wrote code like that13:41
nigelbThe comment on the Java example made me laugh :P13:43
MartijnVdSpython -> Gives the user a sorted array by removing all elements not in sorted order from the input array.13:43
nigelbThe perl example. *shudders*13:44
MartijnVdSyeah.. that's *bad* :)13:44
MartijnVdSI mean, I can decode it.. but *read*?13:44
nigelbah, yes. There's a php one.13:47
MartijnVdShahaha :)13:48
MartijnVdSit requires you to sort manually13:48
MartijnVdS        echo "Type the index of the smallest double value in the list: ";13:49
nigelbPerfect :D13:49
MartijnVdSheh, the "monte carlo" method of sorting13:50
MartijnVdSi.e. randomize the list until it's sorted.13:50
nigelbHeh13:51
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* penguin42 would be tempted to print pairs of numbers out as captchas and post them somewhere to get the pairs sorted15:41
MartijnVdSpenguin42: Mechanical Turk? :)16:21
MartijnVdSpenguin42: https://www.mturk.com/mturk/16:22
penguin42yes that's exactly what I was thinking16:56
MartijnVdSpopey: foobarry was having youtube issues as well20:54
popeyfoobarry: oh?20:57
MartijnVdSpopey: see 11:20 today (UK time :))20:58
popeynot same issue21:00
popeyi think21:00
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popeywell, youtube is completely broken now22:02
daftykinswhat for?22:03
popeydaftykins: everything22:43
popeyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/chromium-browser/+bug/126475422:43
lubotu3Ubuntu bug 1264754 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "YouTube tab fails to load, tab dies" [Undecided,New]22:43
popeyI don't doubt it's probably some oddity that will be "fixed" if I reboot, but I refuse to do that until we know what it is22:44
daftykinsweird!22:45
penguin42popey: Hmm see the HookError bit in your bug, you might want to file a bug against that bug22:45
popeyeh?22:47
ali12341some apport hook failed to run correctly22:48
ali12341https://launchpadlibrarian.net/160954170/HookError_chromium_browser.txt22:48
ali12341that looks like a python2 -> python3 bug22:48
ali12341they've totally mangled the way strings and buffers work for "better" (actually just more annoying) unicode support22:49
popeyah22:49
popeythanks22:49
ali12341as for youtube/flash... no idea22:49
ali12341are you using html5? feather?22:50
popeyfiled bug 126475622:52
lubotu3bug 1264756 in apport (Ubuntu) "TypeError: Type str doesn't support the buffer API" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/126475622:52
popeyneither, its a clean browser session, no login22:53
popeyso it cant be either of those22:53
ali12341any reason why you made a new profile? just randomly trying to break stuff?22:53
popeyto get a clean log22:53
ali12341so your normal profile is doing the same thing?22:53
popeyand prove it wasnt anything in my profile22:53
popeyyes22:53
ali12341what video driver?22:54
ali12341my guess would be video driver problems22:54
popeyintel22:54
popeyit worked earlier today22:54
ali12341have you tried completely 100% closing down chromium?22:54
popeyyes22:54
popeylogged out and in again too22:54
ali12341really?22:54
popeyya22:54
ali12341service lightdm restart?22:54
popeyi have a high uptime22:54
popeyno, logout /login22:54
penguin42popey: anything in dmesg or /var/log/Xorg.0.log22:54
popeyroot     28343  0.0  0.0 192788  4720 ?        Sl   21:55   0:00 lightdm --session-child 12 3122:55
ali12341yeah check for errors in those places22:55
ali12341also ~/.Xsession-errors or whatever it's called22:55
ali12341i dunno what that means :/22:55
popeyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6654030/22:55
penguin42ali12341: Problem is you can never tell in .xsession-errors - it's always full of junk22:55
ali12341not always22:55
popey.xsession-errors is near empty here22:56
popeyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6654035/22:56
ali12341also if it's full of vdpau errors or something, we've probably found the cause22:56
popeyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6654038/22:56
popeyi removed libvdpau122:56
popeybah! now it's working22:57
popeyffs22:57
ali12341 [Mon Dec 23 01:01:56 2013] EXT4-fs warning (device sdc1): __ext4_read_dirblock:908: error reading directory block (ino 2, block 0)22:57
ali12341errrr.........22:57
penguin42popey: What is sdc ?22:57
directhexviddyPOW!22:57
popeysdc is a dodgy usb stick22:57
popeyfrom my ouya22:57
ali12341was any of those dmesg?22:57
popeywhich was corrupted by an ouya software update22:58
popeylast one was22:58
ali12341no your machine has written nothing on dmesg for 5 days?22:58
penguin42is it still plugged in?22:58
popeyoh, how interestin22:58
ali12341my dmesg is not timestamped like that22:58
popeythats dmesg -T22:58
ali12341ah, cool22:59
penguin42popey: / full ?22:59
stgraberpopey: note that nowadays you also want to check the logs in ~/.cache/upstart as most things that used to be in .xsession-errors have now been moved there with the switch to upstart user sessions22:59
popeyah yes22:59
penguin42stgraber: Nice22:59
popey/dev/sda1            213G  191G   11G  95% /22:59
ali12341stgraber: that's nt particularly useful as most things that use upstart don't write logs in the first place22:59
directhexouya costs £99. ps3 12gb costs £99. nintendo 2ds costs £99. one of these things is not like the other23:00
stgraberali12341: well, anything that used to write to stdout/stderr and end up in .xsessions_errors will end up in something under .cache/upstart/23:00
penguin42popey: Maybe /var/log/kern.log has something newer?23:00
stgraberali12341: so you won't get anything more than you used to, but you shouldn't get anything less either23:00
ali12341yeah, but it's mostly all the junk that now ends up in .cache23:00
stgraber(it's not always obvious where they end up though, most usually end up under dbus IIRC)23:00
ali12341where as the interesting things generally still go to .Xsession-errors23:01
popeyyeah, kern.log is newer23:01
ali12341ie actual errors23:01
ali12341anywhoo23:01
ali12341so when was the last time it worked?23:02
ali12341and when did you do between then and now?23:02
popeythis morning23:02
penguin42and what does your kern.log say23:02
popeywell, more recently than that, this afternoon i watched some videos, about 5pm23:02
popeyits pastebinnin, but taking a while23:03
penguin42bbs23:03
popeyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6654074/23:03
ali12341that looks like you suspended the machine or something23:04
ali12341line 436223:05
popeythat was waking up from suspend, yes23:06
popeybeen on all day since then i think23:07
popeyI tried this a dozen times in my browser window, and then in firefox and then in a new browser session, it locked up every time23:08
ali12341what about flash that isn't a video?23:09
popeyI'm not even watching video!23:10
popeyjust go to youtube.com and click "my subscriptions" or "sign in"23:10
ali12341what about other sites with flash video?23:10
popeyright, it's broken again!23:11
popeysuch as?23:11
directhex*insert porn url here*23:11
popeyheh23:11
popeydailymotion also locks up23:11
popeyright, dailymotion & youtube in chromium, and dailymotion in firefox, all freeze up23:13
popeydm played in ff for about 3 seconds23:13
ali12341can you disable hardware acceleration in flash?23:13
popeyhmm, dunno.23:14
directhexpopey, kill all chomium processes23:14
directhexpopey, e.g. lingering plugin container processes23:14
popeyalan@deep-thought:~$ ps aux | grep chrom23:14
popeyalan       460  0.0  0.0   9424   644 pts/13   D+   23:14   0:00 grep --color=auto chrom23:14
penguin42popey: Can you clean up some of the other thing your machine is really unhappy with - e.g. it's still moaning about that sdc mount and there is some usb+/bluetooth on there that's completely shot23:16
popeyworks first time I load after starting chromium, then close tab and do it again and it fails23:16
popeybt is my headphones23:16
* popey switches off bluetooth23:17
ali12341hmm... your new bluetooth headphones?23:17
* popey unmounts sdc23:17
popeyyes23:17
ali12341could be related23:17
popeycould be, yes23:17
ali12341maybe it's the old "only one thing can use sound" again23:17
popeyyup, switched off bt, now the tab loads23:18
penguin42so probably getting stuck on sound23:19
penguin42ali12341: Which shouldn't happen - unless pulse has fallen over because of the bt stuff23:22
penguin42popey: Oh and congratulations on segging perl dconf worker[22010]: segfault at b00 ip 00007ffdcc447132 sp 00007ffdbd353130 error 4 in libperl.so.5.14.2[7ffdcc3b8000+16e000] :-)23:23
popeyhah23:24

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