=== Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
foobarry | http://petapixel.com/2013/12/27/100-year-old-box-exposed-negatives-discovered-conservators-antarctica/ | 07:18 |
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mapps | that Lillyhammer looks good! | 07:19 |
brobostigon | good morning boys and girls. | 10:04 |
MartijnVdS | \o brobostigon | 10:25 |
brobostigon | morning MartijnVdS | 10:25 |
foobarry | Facebook is ?dead and buried? to young people, who are fleeing the site to escape their parents, a major study of social media has found. | 10:27 |
foobarry | The project?s lead researcher dealt the ultimate blow to the formerly ground-breaking social media site, saying it was "simply not cool any more." | 10:28 |
MartijnVdS | well that settles it then | 10:28 |
brobostigon | and using what insted? | 10:28 |
MartijnVdS | G+ of course, until the kids start to hate that | 10:29 |
shauno | the premise is that most of them are using fb because their parents want somewhere they can stay in touch | 10:29 |
brobostigon | i dont think kids will use g+, it seems far to techinically orientated. | 10:29 |
shauno | on that grounds, G+ is already for grownups, so has lost that one before it was even out the gate | 10:29 |
foobarry | g+ is for tech and photos | 10:29 |
MartijnVdS | ok.. tumblr then | 10:30 |
foobarry | gonna make site called beliebo | 10:30 |
foobarry | kids are probably more likely to click ads | 10:30 |
brobostigon | and mess up their windows machines with viriii | 10:31 |
MartijnVdS | and then not buy the service | 10:31 |
shauno | if we're clever, we'll stop letting one service 'win', and force them to play nicely together | 10:34 |
foobarry | "mummy please can you buy me this thing all my frineds have" | 10:34 |
brobostigon | (insert I-device name here) | 10:35 |
foobarry | " Teenagers are gravitating instead towards sites like Snapchat and Twitter, the former because interactions leave no permanent record." | 10:43 |
foobarry | teens/kids will always want to do same but different | 10:44 |
foobarry | what happened to bebo? | 10:45 |
foobarry | shauno: thats not very capitalist? next you'll want it to be easy to transfer money vetweens banks and change energy provider in 1 week | 10:46 |
MooDoo | hello all | 11:05 |
MartijnVdS | \o | 11:10 |
brobostigon | morning MooDoo | 11:10 |
MooDoo | hows MartijnVdS brobostigon | 11:11 |
* MartijnVdS pokes at chef a bit more | 11:11 | |
brobostigon | not bad over, and you MooDoo ? | 11:11 |
brobostigon | overall* | 11:11 |
MooDoo | yeah I'm ok, at work at mo waiting to pic the family up at 12 they are at a play :D | 11:12 |
MartijnVdS | your family of PICs? ;) | 11:13 |
brobostigon | :) | 11:13 |
MartijnVdS | Picts? ;) | 11:13 |
MooDoo | pick :D lol | 11:13 |
MooDoo | or they could be picts, armed with their swords :D | 11:13 |
brobostigon | lol | 11:14 |
foobarry | anyone had issues with a youtube video that works on phone but loses audio after about 90% stage on youtube version? | 11:20 |
brobostigon | android or ios, youtube app or in browser? | 11:21 |
MartijnVdS | I haven't had problems on Android, Chromebook or PC | 11:23 |
MartijnVdS | or the "Youtube" app on my TV | 11:23 |
foobarry | in browser | 11:27 |
=== Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
MartijnVdS | Hah: http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/16226/trolling-homework-questions-sorting | 13:40 |
nigelb | That was bloody brilliant :D | 13:40 |
MartijnVdS | the C# example.. there was a C# coder at the previous place I worked at that wrote code like that | 13:41 |
nigelb | The comment on the Java example made me laugh :P | 13:43 |
MartijnVdS | python -> Gives the user a sorted array by removing all elements not in sorted order from the input array. | 13:43 |
nigelb | The perl example. *shudders* | 13:44 |
MartijnVdS | yeah.. that's *bad* :) | 13:44 |
MartijnVdS | I mean, I can decode it.. but *read*? | 13:44 |
nigelb | ah, yes. There's a php one. | 13:47 |
MartijnVdS | hahaha :) | 13:48 |
MartijnVdS | it requires you to sort manually | 13:48 |
MartijnVdS | echo "Type the index of the smallest double value in the list: "; | 13:49 |
nigelb | Perfect :D | 13:49 |
MartijnVdS | heh, the "monte carlo" method of sorting | 13:50 |
MartijnVdS | i.e. randomize the list until it's sorted. | 13:50 |
nigelb | Heh | 13:51 |
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* penguin42 would be tempted to print pairs of numbers out as captchas and post them somewhere to get the pairs sorted | 15:41 | |
MartijnVdS | penguin42: Mechanical Turk? :) | 16:21 |
MartijnVdS | penguin42: https://www.mturk.com/mturk/ | 16:22 |
penguin42 | yes that's exactly what I was thinking | 16:56 |
MartijnVdS | popey: foobarry was having youtube issues as well | 20:54 |
popey | foobarry: oh? | 20:57 |
MartijnVdS | popey: see 11:20 today (UK time :)) | 20:58 |
popey | not same issue | 21:00 |
popey | i think | 21:00 |
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=== mqtt-zabbix-1 is now known as bagpuss_thecat | ||
popey | well, youtube is completely broken now | 22:02 |
daftykins | what for? | 22:03 |
popey | daftykins: everything | 22:43 |
popey | https://bugs.launchpad.net/chromium-browser/+bug/1264754 | 22:43 |
lubotu3 | Ubuntu bug 1264754 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "YouTube tab fails to load, tab dies" [Undecided,New] | 22:43 |
popey | I don't doubt it's probably some oddity that will be "fixed" if I reboot, but I refuse to do that until we know what it is | 22:44 |
daftykins | weird! | 22:45 |
penguin42 | popey: Hmm see the HookError bit in your bug, you might want to file a bug against that bug | 22:45 |
popey | eh? | 22:47 |
ali12341 | some apport hook failed to run correctly | 22:48 |
ali12341 | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/160954170/HookError_chromium_browser.txt | 22:48 |
ali12341 | that looks like a python2 -> python3 bug | 22:48 |
ali12341 | they've totally mangled the way strings and buffers work for "better" (actually just more annoying) unicode support | 22:49 |
popey | ah | 22:49 |
popey | thanks | 22:49 |
ali12341 | as for youtube/flash... no idea | 22:49 |
ali12341 | are you using html5? feather? | 22:50 |
popey | filed bug 1264756 | 22:52 |
lubotu3 | bug 1264756 in apport (Ubuntu) "TypeError: Type str doesn't support the buffer API" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1264756 | 22:52 |
popey | neither, its a clean browser session, no login | 22:53 |
popey | so it cant be either of those | 22:53 |
ali12341 | any reason why you made a new profile? just randomly trying to break stuff? | 22:53 |
popey | to get a clean log | 22:53 |
ali12341 | so your normal profile is doing the same thing? | 22:53 |
popey | and prove it wasnt anything in my profile | 22:53 |
popey | yes | 22:53 |
ali12341 | what video driver? | 22:54 |
ali12341 | my guess would be video driver problems | 22:54 |
popey | intel | 22:54 |
popey | it worked earlier today | 22:54 |
ali12341 | have you tried completely 100% closing down chromium? | 22:54 |
popey | yes | 22:54 |
popey | logged out and in again too | 22:54 |
ali12341 | really? | 22:54 |
popey | ya | 22:54 |
ali12341 | service lightdm restart? | 22:54 |
popey | i have a high uptime | 22:54 |
popey | no, logout /login | 22:54 |
penguin42 | popey: anything in dmesg or /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 22:54 |
popey | root 28343 0.0 0.0 192788 4720 ? Sl 21:55 0:00 lightdm --session-child 12 31 | 22:55 |
ali12341 | yeah check for errors in those places | 22:55 |
ali12341 | also ~/.Xsession-errors or whatever it's called | 22:55 |
ali12341 | i dunno what that means :/ | 22:55 |
popey | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6654030/ | 22:55 |
penguin42 | ali12341: Problem is you can never tell in .xsession-errors - it's always full of junk | 22:55 |
ali12341 | not always | 22:55 |
popey | .xsession-errors is near empty here | 22:56 |
popey | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6654035/ | 22:56 |
ali12341 | also if it's full of vdpau errors or something, we've probably found the cause | 22:56 |
popey | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6654038/ | 22:56 |
popey | i removed libvdpau1 | 22:56 |
popey | bah! now it's working | 22:57 |
popey | ffs | 22:57 |
ali12341 | [Mon Dec 23 01:01:56 2013] EXT4-fs warning (device sdc1): __ext4_read_dirblock:908: error reading directory block (ino 2, block 0) | 22:57 |
ali12341 | errrr......... | 22:57 |
penguin42 | popey: What is sdc ? | 22:57 |
directhex | viddyPOW! | 22:57 |
popey | sdc is a dodgy usb stick | 22:57 |
popey | from my ouya | 22:57 |
ali12341 | was any of those dmesg? | 22:57 |
popey | which was corrupted by an ouya software update | 22:58 |
popey | last one was | 22:58 |
ali12341 | no your machine has written nothing on dmesg for 5 days? | 22:58 |
penguin42 | is it still plugged in? | 22:58 |
popey | oh, how interestin | 22:58 |
ali12341 | my dmesg is not timestamped like that | 22:58 |
popey | thats dmesg -T | 22:58 |
ali12341 | ah, cool | 22:59 |
penguin42 | popey: / full ? | 22:59 |
stgraber | popey: note that nowadays you also want to check the logs in ~/.cache/upstart as most things that used to be in .xsession-errors have now been moved there with the switch to upstart user sessions | 22:59 |
popey | ah yes | 22:59 |
penguin42 | stgraber: Nice | 22:59 |
popey | /dev/sda1 213G 191G 11G 95% / | 22:59 |
ali12341 | stgraber: that's nt particularly useful as most things that use upstart don't write logs in the first place | 22:59 |
directhex | ouya costs £99. ps3 12gb costs £99. nintendo 2ds costs £99. one of these things is not like the other | 23:00 |
stgraber | ali12341: well, anything that used to write to stdout/stderr and end up in .xsessions_errors will end up in something under .cache/upstart/ | 23:00 |
penguin42 | popey: Maybe /var/log/kern.log has something newer? | 23:00 |
stgraber | ali12341: so you won't get anything more than you used to, but you shouldn't get anything less either | 23:00 |
ali12341 | yeah, but it's mostly all the junk that now ends up in .cache | 23:00 |
stgraber | (it's not always obvious where they end up though, most usually end up under dbus IIRC) | 23:00 |
ali12341 | where as the interesting things generally still go to .Xsession-errors | 23:01 |
popey | yeah, kern.log is newer | 23:01 |
ali12341 | ie actual errors | 23:01 |
ali12341 | anywhoo | 23:01 |
ali12341 | so when was the last time it worked? | 23:02 |
ali12341 | and when did you do between then and now? | 23:02 |
popey | this morning | 23:02 |
penguin42 | and what does your kern.log say | 23:02 |
popey | well, more recently than that, this afternoon i watched some videos, about 5pm | 23:02 |
popey | its pastebinnin, but taking a while | 23:03 |
penguin42 | bbs | 23:03 |
popey | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6654074/ | 23:03 |
ali12341 | that looks like you suspended the machine or something | 23:04 |
ali12341 | line 4362 | 23:05 |
popey | that was waking up from suspend, yes | 23:06 |
popey | been on all day since then i think | 23:07 |
popey | I tried this a dozen times in my browser window, and then in firefox and then in a new browser session, it locked up every time | 23:08 |
ali12341 | what about flash that isn't a video? | 23:09 |
popey | I'm not even watching video! | 23:10 |
popey | just go to youtube.com and click "my subscriptions" or "sign in" | 23:10 |
ali12341 | what about other sites with flash video? | 23:10 |
popey | right, it's broken again! | 23:11 |
popey | such as? | 23:11 |
directhex | *insert porn url here* | 23:11 |
popey | heh | 23:11 |
popey | dailymotion also locks up | 23:11 |
popey | right, dailymotion & youtube in chromium, and dailymotion in firefox, all freeze up | 23:13 |
popey | dm played in ff for about 3 seconds | 23:13 |
ali12341 | can you disable hardware acceleration in flash? | 23:13 |
popey | hmm, dunno. | 23:14 |
directhex | popey, kill all chomium processes | 23:14 |
directhex | popey, e.g. lingering plugin container processes | 23:14 |
popey | alan@deep-thought:~$ ps aux | grep chrom | 23:14 |
popey | alan 460 0.0 0.0 9424 644 pts/13 D+ 23:14 0:00 grep --color=auto chrom | 23:14 |
penguin42 | popey: Can you clean up some of the other thing your machine is really unhappy with - e.g. it's still moaning about that sdc mount and there is some usb+/bluetooth on there that's completely shot | 23:16 |
popey | works first time I load after starting chromium, then close tab and do it again and it fails | 23:16 |
popey | bt is my headphones | 23:16 |
* popey switches off bluetooth | 23:17 | |
ali12341 | hmm... your new bluetooth headphones? | 23:17 |
* popey unmounts sdc | 23:17 | |
popey | yes | 23:17 |
ali12341 | could be related | 23:17 |
popey | could be, yes | 23:17 |
ali12341 | maybe it's the old "only one thing can use sound" again | 23:17 |
popey | yup, switched off bt, now the tab loads | 23:18 |
penguin42 | so probably getting stuck on sound | 23:19 |
penguin42 | ali12341: Which shouldn't happen - unless pulse has fallen over because of the bt stuff | 23:22 |
penguin42 | popey: Oh and congratulations on segging perl dconf worker[22010]: segfault at b00 ip 00007ffdcc447132 sp 00007ffdbd353130 error 4 in libperl.so.5.14.2[7ffdcc3b8000+16e000] :-) | 23:23 |
popey | hah | 23:24 |
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