=== Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [07:18] http://petapixel.com/2013/12/27/100-year-old-box-exposed-negatives-discovered-conservators-antarctica/ [07:19] that Lillyhammer looks good! [10:04] good morning boys and girls. [10:25] \o brobostigon [10:25] morning MartijnVdS [10:27] Facebook is ?dead and buried? to young people, who are fleeing the site to escape their parents, a major study of social media has found. [10:28] The project?s lead researcher dealt the ultimate blow to the formerly ground-breaking social media site, saying it was "simply not cool any more." [10:28] well that settles it then [10:28] and using what insted? [10:29] G+ of course, until the kids start to hate that [10:29] the premise is that most of them are using fb because their parents want somewhere they can stay in touch [10:29] i dont think kids will use g+, it seems far to techinically orientated. [10:29] on that grounds, G+ is already for grownups, so has lost that one before it was even out the gate [10:29] g+ is for tech and photos [10:30] ok.. tumblr then [10:30] gonna make site called beliebo [10:30] kids are probably more likely to click ads [10:31] and mess up their windows machines with viriii [10:31] and then not buy the service [10:34] if we're clever, we'll stop letting one service 'win', and force them to play nicely together [10:34] "mummy please can you buy me this thing all my frineds have" [10:35] (insert I-device name here) [10:43] " Teenagers are gravitating instead towards sites like Snapchat and Twitter, the former because interactions leave no permanent record." [10:44] teens/kids will always want to do same but different [10:45] what happened to bebo? [10:46] shauno: thats not very capitalist? next you'll want it to be easy to transfer money vetweens banks and change energy provider in 1 week [11:05] hello all [11:10] \o [11:10] morning MooDoo [11:11] hows MartijnVdS brobostigon [11:11] * MartijnVdS pokes at chef a bit more [11:11] not bad over, and you MooDoo ? [11:11] overall* [11:12] yeah I'm ok, at work at mo waiting to pic the family up at 12 they are at a play :D [11:13] your family of PICs? ;) [11:13] :) [11:13] Picts? ;) [11:13] pick :D lol [11:13] or they could be picts, armed with their swords :D [11:14] lol [11:20] anyone had issues with a youtube video that works on phone but loses audio after about 90% stage on youtube version? [11:21] android or ios, youtube app or in browser? [11:23] I haven't had problems on Android, Chromebook or PC [11:23] or the "Youtube" app on my TV [11:27] in browser === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [13:40] Hah: http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/16226/trolling-homework-questions-sorting [13:40] That was bloody brilliant :D [13:41] the C# example.. there was a C# coder at the previous place I worked at that wrote code like that [13:43] The comment on the Java example made me laugh :P [13:43] python -> Gives the user a sorted array by removing all elements not in sorted order from the input array. [13:44] The perl example. *shudders* [13:44] yeah.. that's *bad* :) [13:44] I mean, I can decode it.. but *read*? [13:47] ah, yes. There's a php one. [13:48] hahaha :) [13:48] it requires you to sort manually [13:49] echo "Type the index of the smallest double value in the list: "; [13:49] Perfect :D [13:50] heh, the "monte carlo" method of sorting [13:50] i.e. randomize the list until it's sorted. [13:51] Heh === AlanBell_ is now known as AlanBell [15:41] * penguin42 would be tempted to print pairs of numbers out as captchas and post them somewhere to get the pairs sorted [16:21] penguin42: Mechanical Turk? :) [16:22] penguin42: https://www.mturk.com/mturk/ [16:56] yes that's exactly what I was thinking [20:54] popey: foobarry was having youtube issues as well [20:57] foobarry: oh? [20:58] popey: see 11:20 today (UK time :)) [21:00] not same issue [21:00] i think === LjL is now known as aubade === bagpuss_thecat is now known as mqtt-zabbix-1 === mqtt-zabbix-1 is now known as bagpuss_thecat [22:02] well, youtube is completely broken now [22:03] what for? [22:43] daftykins: everything [22:43] https://bugs.launchpad.net/chromium-browser/+bug/1264754 [22:43] Ubuntu bug 1264754 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "YouTube tab fails to load, tab dies" [Undecided,New] [22:44] I don't doubt it's probably some oddity that will be "fixed" if I reboot, but I refuse to do that until we know what it is [22:45] weird! [22:45] popey: Hmm see the HookError bit in your bug, you might want to file a bug against that bug [22:47] eh? [22:48] some apport hook failed to run correctly [22:48] https://launchpadlibrarian.net/160954170/HookError_chromium_browser.txt [22:48] that looks like a python2 -> python3 bug [22:49] they've totally mangled the way strings and buffers work for "better" (actually just more annoying) unicode support [22:49] ah [22:49] thanks [22:49] as for youtube/flash... no idea [22:50] are you using html5? feather? [22:52] filed bug 1264756 [22:52] bug 1264756 in apport (Ubuntu) "TypeError: Type str doesn't support the buffer API" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1264756 [22:53] neither, its a clean browser session, no login [22:53] so it cant be either of those [22:53] any reason why you made a new profile? just randomly trying to break stuff? [22:53] to get a clean log [22:53] so your normal profile is doing the same thing? [22:53] and prove it wasnt anything in my profile [22:53] yes [22:54] what video driver? [22:54] my guess would be video driver problems [22:54] intel [22:54] it worked earlier today [22:54] have you tried completely 100% closing down chromium? [22:54] yes [22:54] logged out and in again too [22:54] really? [22:54] ya [22:54] service lightdm restart? [22:54] i have a high uptime [22:54] no, logout /login [22:54] popey: anything in dmesg or /var/log/Xorg.0.log [22:55] root 28343 0.0 0.0 192788 4720 ? Sl 21:55 0:00 lightdm --session-child 12 31 [22:55] yeah check for errors in those places [22:55] also ~/.Xsession-errors or whatever it's called [22:55] i dunno what that means :/ [22:55] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6654030/ [22:55] ali12341: Problem is you can never tell in .xsession-errors - it's always full of junk [22:55] not always [22:56] .xsession-errors is near empty here [22:56] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6654035/ [22:56] also if it's full of vdpau errors or something, we've probably found the cause [22:56] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6654038/ [22:56] i removed libvdpau1 [22:57] bah! now it's working [22:57] ffs [22:57] [Mon Dec 23 01:01:56 2013] EXT4-fs warning (device sdc1): __ext4_read_dirblock:908: error reading directory block (ino 2, block 0) [22:57] errrr......... [22:57] popey: What is sdc ? [22:57] viddyPOW! [22:57] sdc is a dodgy usb stick [22:57] from my ouya [22:57] was any of those dmesg? [22:58] which was corrupted by an ouya software update [22:58] last one was [22:58] no your machine has written nothing on dmesg for 5 days? [22:58] is it still plugged in? [22:58] oh, how interestin [22:58] my dmesg is not timestamped like that [22:58] thats dmesg -T [22:59] ah, cool [22:59] popey: / full ? [22:59] popey: note that nowadays you also want to check the logs in ~/.cache/upstart as most things that used to be in .xsession-errors have now been moved there with the switch to upstart user sessions [22:59] ah yes [22:59] stgraber: Nice [22:59] /dev/sda1 213G 191G 11G 95% / [22:59] stgraber: that's nt particularly useful as most things that use upstart don't write logs in the first place [23:00] ouya costs £99. ps3 12gb costs £99. nintendo 2ds costs £99. one of these things is not like the other [23:00] ali12341: well, anything that used to write to stdout/stderr and end up in .xsessions_errors will end up in something under .cache/upstart/ [23:00] popey: Maybe /var/log/kern.log has something newer? [23:00] ali12341: so you won't get anything more than you used to, but you shouldn't get anything less either [23:00] yeah, but it's mostly all the junk that now ends up in .cache [23:00] (it's not always obvious where they end up though, most usually end up under dbus IIRC) [23:01] where as the interesting things generally still go to .Xsession-errors [23:01] yeah, kern.log is newer [23:01] ie actual errors [23:01] anywhoo [23:02] so when was the last time it worked? [23:02] and when did you do between then and now? [23:02] this morning [23:02] and what does your kern.log say [23:02] well, more recently than that, this afternoon i watched some videos, about 5pm [23:03] its pastebinnin, but taking a while [23:03] bbs [23:03] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6654074/ [23:04] that looks like you suspended the machine or something [23:05] line 4362 [23:06] that was waking up from suspend, yes [23:07] been on all day since then i think [23:08] I tried this a dozen times in my browser window, and then in firefox and then in a new browser session, it locked up every time [23:09] what about flash that isn't a video? [23:10] I'm not even watching video! [23:10] just go to youtube.com and click "my subscriptions" or "sign in" [23:10] what about other sites with flash video? [23:11] right, it's broken again! [23:11] such as? [23:11] *insert porn url here* [23:11] heh [23:11] dailymotion also locks up [23:13] right, dailymotion & youtube in chromium, and dailymotion in firefox, all freeze up [23:13] dm played in ff for about 3 seconds [23:13] can you disable hardware acceleration in flash? [23:14] hmm, dunno. [23:14] popey, kill all chomium processes [23:14] popey, e.g. lingering plugin container processes [23:14] alan@deep-thought:~$ ps aux | grep chrom [23:14] alan 460 0.0 0.0 9424 644 pts/13 D+ 23:14 0:00 grep --color=auto chrom [23:16] popey: Can you clean up some of the other thing your machine is really unhappy with - e.g. it's still moaning about that sdc mount and there is some usb+/bluetooth on there that's completely shot [23:16] works first time I load after starting chromium, then close tab and do it again and it fails [23:16] bt is my headphones [23:17] * popey switches off bluetooth [23:17] hmm... your new bluetooth headphones? [23:17] * popey unmounts sdc [23:17] yes [23:17] could be related [23:17] could be, yes [23:17] maybe it's the old "only one thing can use sound" again [23:18] yup, switched off bt, now the tab loads [23:19] so probably getting stuck on sound [23:22] ali12341: Which shouldn't happen - unless pulse has fallen over because of the bt stuff [23:23] popey: Oh and congratulations on segging perl dconf worker[22010]: segfault at b00 ip 00007ffdcc447132 sp 00007ffdbd353130 error 4 in libperl.so.5.14.2[7ffdcc3b8000+16e000] :-) [23:24] hah