=== S-USA is now known as SpeedRacer
=== SpeedRacer is now known as SonikkuAmerica
[03:06] <neo_> hello folks
[03:07] <neo_> :-)
[03:07] <holstein> o/
[03:07] <neo_> just wanted to drop by and say hi
[03:07] <neo_> had a successful upgrade to 13.10 today
[03:08] <neo_> I had tried 13.04 back in the summer, but it didn't support my m-audio usb sound module
[03:08] <holstein> i do LTS on my production machines
[03:08] <neo_> after upgrading to 13.10, my sound module is supported and shows right up in audacity, etc.
[03:08] <SonikkuAmerica> How's that signed image for 14.04 coming?
[03:09] <holstein> signed kernel?
[03:11] <SonikkuAmerica> Yeah. I dropped by a few months ago and asked about it. *kernel
[03:13] <neo_> how's the hardware support on LTS?
[03:17] <holstein> SonikkuAmerica: you would need to ask in the main dev channel
[03:18] <holstein> SonikkuAmerica: you can ask upstream kernel team
[03:18] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh OK
[03:18] <SonikkuAmerica> I'll do that
[03:22] <holstein> SonikkuAmerica: nothing about that will facilitate any audio workflow
[03:22] <SonikkuAmerica> Well I must be one of 6 people with UEFI that uses Studio...
[03:23] <SonikkuAmerica> :P
[03:23] <holstein> SonikkuAmerica: you should be able to disable it in the bios
[03:23] <SonikkuAmerica> As in use CSM
[03:24] <SonikkuAmerica> ( We had this convo before, I just know it (: )
[03:24] <holstein> SonikkuAmerica: i dont have the hardware, so i dont know
[03:24] <holstein> SonikkuAmerica: i just read that it can be disabled on many machines
[03:25] <holstein> neo_: hardware support is the same as the kernel, really
[03:26] <SonikkuAmerica> I mean yeah I can use CSM, but that would require me to change my entire partition table from GPT to "legacy," which means potential risk for the Windows 8(.1) partition that I still can't get rid of because of certain programs that don
[03:26] <SonikkuAmerica> +'t work under Wine.
[03:27]  * SonikkuAmerica knows full well he could just get Xubuntu and the Studio metas, but if there's an image...
[03:27] <holstein> neo_: the reason to run the lts (or not) is really just that.. long term, or newer
[03:27] <holstein> new packages vs longer term for support
[03:28] <SonikkuAmerica> (3 years, right? Like Xubuntu?)
[03:28] <holstein> the hardware supported could be different, but likely nothing that we would be specifically dealing with in proaudio in linux would change all that much
[03:28] <holstein> the lts's are 5 years now
[03:28] <holstein> !lts
[03:28] <ubottu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)
[03:29] <holstein> or, thats the plan.. maybe that gets dropped back to 3
[03:29] <SonikkuAmerica> holstein: So Studio is doing the 5-year plan? I mean knome stated that Xubuntu is a 3-year LTS cycle, but Xubuntu is Xubuntu, not Studio.
[03:30] <holstein> SonikkuAmerica: AFAIK, the derivitives get to decide
[03:30] <holstein> SonikkuAmerica: the main repos for 12.04 are maintained for 5 years
[03:30] <SonikkuAmerica> holstein: I think Lubuntu 14.04 as well is going for 3 years
[03:31] <holstein> SonikkuAmerica: if you run xubuntu, or ubuntustudio 12.04, or any of the rest of them, the repos are going to still be hot
[03:31] <holstein> for 5 years
[03:31] <SonikkuAmerica> Ow! I burned myself for 5 years! :)
[03:31] <holstein> the kernel is still maintained
[03:31] <holstein> something very xubuntu specific could matter, but, even xfce and all the others are maintained