[04:48] <kbmonkey> morning
[05:39] <Kilos> hi kbmonkey and others
[05:40] <kbmonkey> hi Kilos you late today
[05:41] <kbmonkey> lol
[05:41] <kbmonkey> you got nice presents?
[05:41] <Kilos> ya it raining so lekker tolie in bed and listen to the falling rain
[05:42] <kbmonkey> lekker man
[05:42] <Kilos> yeah
[05:42] <kbmonkey> also rained here this morning
[05:42] <Kilos> i love durbs. rains often there
[05:42] <kbmonkey> today I need to sort out this sliding drawer and cure it against roaches
[05:43] <kbmonkey> and I need to go gym. ha ha ha. 
[05:43] <Kilos> whew
[05:43] <kbmonkey> I hear dissolving boric acid in boiling water, cooling it and putting on a spray bottle to cure wood keeps em away...
[05:43] <Kilos> i think they even make special roach aerosol spays for roaches for you durbs peeps
[05:45] <kbmonkey> Ill go look, but I want to avoid poisons if possible
[05:46] <Kilos> Maaz, google best roach sprays in south africa
[05:46] <Maaz> Kilos: "What Is the Best Method of Cockroach Control? (with picture)" http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-best-method-of-cockroach-control.htm :: "How should I Kill Cockroaches? (with pictures) - wiseGEEK" http://www.wisegeek.com/how-should-i-kill-cockroaches.htm :: "How to Make a Homemade Roach Killer | DoItYourself.com" http://www.doityourself.com/stry/how-to-
[05:46] <Maaz> make-a-homemade-roach-killer :: "Bayer Home - South Africa :: HOME Product Catalog" http://…
[05:46] <Kilos> wow
[05:47] <kbmonkey> nothing spray made would be poison free in this country :p
[05:47] <Kilos> i go see what wise geek says
[05:47] <kbmonkey> that site probably useless like wikihow
[05:48] <kbmonkey> its this heat that is driving them indoors
[05:49] <Kilos> whew
[05:50] <Kilos> you got you work cut out for you it seems
[05:50] <Kilos> the things fly and creap and crawl so you cant leave anything open'
[05:51] <Kilos> maaHow to Make a Homemade Roach Killer 
[05:51] <Kilos> ai!
[05:51] <Kilos> Maaz, google How to Make a Homemade Roach Killer 
[05:51] <Maaz> Kilos: "How to Make a Homemade Roach Killer | DoItYourself.com" http://www.doityourself.com/stry/how-to-make-a-homemade-roach-killer :: "Get Rid of Roaches Naturally - Homemade Roach Killer - Frugal Living" http://frugalliving.about.com/od/doityourself/qt/Roach_Killer.htm :: "How To Get Rid Of Cockroaches (and DIY Roach Killer) - Housewife ..."
[05:51] <Maaz> http://housewifehowtos.com/clean/how-to-get-rid-of-cockroaches/ :: "cockroach killer free safe home made roa…
[05:52] <Kilos> lol if you never eat they wont find anything worth following
[05:52] <Kilos> are you near the docks?
[05:52] <Kilos> harbour
[05:53] <Kilos> there are massive ones there
[05:53] <kbmonkey> wow you even get growth regulators that mess with their hormones to make them grow up sterile!
[05:53] <kbmonkey> that is the less toxic option 
[05:54] <Kilos> ya
[05:54] <Kilos> but toxic is good if it kills them man
[05:54] <Kilos> do sprays affect you?
[05:55] <kbmonkey> yes they affect me unfortunately
[05:55] <Kilos> check out greenpeace. maybe roaches have rights as well
[05:55] <kbmonkey> lol
[05:55] <Kilos> my mom was like that
[05:55] <Kilos> caused many sneezes
[05:56] <kbmonkey> pneumonia can regress if i do
[05:56] <Kilos> eeek no then try less toxic ways
[05:57] <Kilos> seasons greetings cocooncrash 
[06:00] <Kilos> kbmonkey, jumping on them works good and you get exercise same time
[06:01] <kbmonkey> yes!
[06:01] <kbmonkey> Kilos, you got the top idea there 
[06:01] <Kilos> lol
[07:03] <Kilos> hi Gotango 
[07:05] <Gotango> Hey Kilos
[07:06] <Kilos> dvd made. come fetch
[07:06] <Gotango> Thats good Kilos, wish i had wings lol
[07:07] <Kilos> lol. will post as soon as sis goes to town
[07:08] <Gotango> Thanks man, it means alot :)
[07:08] <Kilos> np
[07:08] <Gotango> How is your weekend
[07:08] <Kilos> always quiet here
[07:10] <Gotango> Here too but a little bit more volume
[07:56] <Kilos> hi psychicist 
[08:01] <psychicist> hi Kilos 
[08:01] <superfly> hi Kilos 
[08:01] <superfly> and psychicist 
[08:02] <superfly> oh, and Gotango and kbmonkey 
[08:04] <Gotango> Hi superfly and psychicist
[08:05] <psychicist> hi superfly 
[08:05] <psychicist> hi Gotango 
[08:11] <kbmonkey> hallo hallo
[08:14] <psychicist> hallo kbmonkey 
[08:14] <kbmonkey> I'm hungry!
[08:15] <superfly> me too
[08:15] <kbmonkey> I had a banana
[08:15] <superfly> heh. me too
[08:18] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[08:19] <Kilos> Maaz, whats for breakfast
[08:19] <Maaz> Wheatbix today Kilos, and if you are still hungry maybe bacon and eggs.
[08:22] <superfly> i have none of the above
[08:22] <Kilos> aw
[08:24] <superfly> I'm sitting in church at the moment. no breakfast here.
[08:25] <Kilos> sjoe. 
[10:53] <charl_> good afternoon
[10:53] <charl_> Maaz: coffee on
[10:53]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[10:53] <psychicist> good afternoon charl_ 
[10:53] <Kilos> hi charl_ 
[10:53] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[10:53] <Maaz> Kilos: Done
[10:54] <charl_> hi psychicist 
[10:54] <charl_> hi Kilos 
[10:55] <charl_> how's it going with you people
[10:56] <Kilos> alive and you
[10:56] <psychicist> I am doing fine
[10:56] <charl_> i'm good
[10:56] <psychicist> I've been in the netherlands for a week now
[10:56] <charl_> nice, staying or for holiday?
[10:56] <psychicist> finally looking forward to going out
[10:56] <psychicist> for holidays now
[10:56] <charl_> ok cool
[10:56] <psychicist> but if I find a job, I might stay
[10:56] <charl_> tomorrow the yearly war starts
[10:56] <psychicist> we'll see what happens, I'm going to visit some places this week
[10:56] <charl_> do you like fireworks?
[10:56] <psychicist> oh, indeed
[10:57] <psychicist> well, I used to like it
[10:57] <charl_> i hate them
[10:57] <charl_> not some nice proper fireworks shows, but this nonsense we have every year, turning the streets into a first class war zone
[10:57] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl_ and Kilos!
[10:57] <psychicist> yes
[10:57] <charl_> i literally lock myself up in my apartment until it is over ...
[10:57] <charl_> Maaz: thanks
[10:57] <Maaz> charl_: Okay :-)
[10:57] <Kilos> Maaz, danke
[10:57] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[10:57] <psychicist> I like nicely looking fireworks too
[10:58] <charl_> do other countries also have so much fireworks? afaik they don't
[10:58] <charl_> although i heard in germany they can also go at it quite a bit
[11:00] <psychicist> I just think that it's insane in the netherlands
[11:00] <psychicist> they start with these mini bombs two months in advance
[11:00] <psychicist> I haven't noticed anything like that in poland
[11:03] <charl_> every year, and the smoke that it produces is terrible too
[11:04] <charl_> a blanket of smoke covering the city if the wind doesn't blow hard enough
[11:05] <psychicist> even in your city?
[11:05] <charl_> yes, even here in the east
[11:05] <psychicist> being in the hague for a week, I realise how nice of a city poznan is
[11:05] <charl_> here in the east it might be worse because they bring illegal fireworks in from germany
[11:06] <psychicist> yeah
[11:10] <charl_> so... back to programming !
[11:11] <charl_> while my roomba cleans the floors :)
[11:12] <charl_> bah the little thing is under here my chair, and i feel it bumping around
[11:12] <psychicist> :)
[12:40]  * Kilos goes to kde 
[12:45] <Kilos> :-)
[12:53] <charl_> wb Kilos 
[12:54] <Kilos> ty charl_ im now on my pretty kde
[12:54] <Kilos> 10 workspaces each with different wallpaper
[12:56] <charl_> lol
[12:57] <Kilos> i enjoy kde 12.04 with kde 4.10 on it
[12:57] <Kilos> was a job setting up everything but i think worth it 
[12:58] <Kilos> got a treat fom namibia. they sell sealed packets of dried boeries sliced
[12:58] <Kilos> very lekker
[12:59] <Kilos> looks like a packet of biscuits
[12:59] <Kilos> hehe
[13:54] <charl_> boeries?
[13:54] <charl_> what is that
[13:54] <charl_> you mean berries?
[14:02] <Kilos> boerewors man charl_ 
[14:02] <Kilos> long sausage
[14:03] <charl_> ah
[14:03] <charl_> wurst
[14:03] <Kilos> i thought you knew about za
[14:03] <charl_> yeah man i know about boerewors i just don't know you called it "boerie" lol
[14:04] <Kilos> lol
[14:04] <charl_> sounds a bit like "borrie"
[14:04] <charl_> http://af.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borrie
[14:04] <Kilos> borrie is turmeric
[14:05] <Kilos> the soice that makes rice yellow
[14:05] <Kilos> spice
[14:05] <charl_> in dutch you call it kurkuma
[14:05] <charl_> they use it in surinamian food
[14:05] <Kilos> what nationality are you actually
[14:06] <charl_> i am half south african and half dutch
[14:07] <Kilos> oh so at least 1 good half
[14:07] <Kilos> hehe
[14:07] <charl_> yeah but sorry i can't do much about my south african half :P
[14:07] <Kilos> hahaha
[14:07] <charl_> lol
[14:08] <Kilos> thats the part above your shoulders
[14:09] <Kilos> i go fetch sheep
[14:10] <kbmonkey> how many sheep you have Kilos ?
[14:17] <Kilos> only 8
[14:19] <kbmonkey> you make cheese?
[14:20] <Kilos> no man they not goats
[14:20] <Kilos> wool sheep
[14:20] <Kilos> merinos
[14:21] <Kilos> when we get jersey milk sis makes feta cheese
[14:41] <Kilos> inetpro: 12mm so ver
[17:07] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[17:07] <Vince-0> Hi!
[17:15] <Vince-0> !
[17:15] <Vince-0> !
[17:16] <Kilos> wb kbmonkey 
[17:17] <Kilos> wbb
[17:38] <Kilos> hi superfly can one install the destop iso on a lappy without probs?
[17:39] <Kilos> i just remembered the netbook remix thing
[17:39] <Kilos> is there a difference
[17:39] <superfly> Kilos: done that, never needed to do anything else
[17:39] <Kilos> yay ty
[19:02] <Kilos> hi klaasvakie 
[19:03] <Kilos> hoekom die niek?
[19:13] <Kilos> hmm...
[19:22] <klaasvakie> het op koshuis nooit geslaap nie
[19:23] <charl_> lol
[19:25] <klaasvakie> was 'n slegte student -- het alles tot op die laaste gelos en dan moes ek deurnag
[19:28] <klaasvakie> die kerstyd: haai - jy is mos goed met rekenaars, wil jy nie net gou na my laptop kyk nie :(
[19:47] <Kilos> haha
[20:00] <charl_> aaaaai
[20:00] <charl_> i hate it when that happens
[20:00] <charl_> "you know stuff about computers, right?" -> "yeah, i'm a specialist programmer"
[20:00] <charl_> as in, no i do not want to fix your piece of carp for you
[20:01] <charl_> and no i don't know why your printer does not work, neither do i care
[20:02] <Kilos> thats not the right attitude
[20:03] <Kilos> help your fellow man
[20:03] <Kilos> even if you charge him
[20:03] <charl_> lol
[20:03] <charl_> even if you charge him, very nice
[20:04] <Kilos> there are times when your hours spent learning must reap some rewards
[20:04] <charl_> thing is, you're not going to charge your family or friends for stuff like that, because tomorrow they return the favour in a different way
[20:04] <charl_> that's why i just do it and not complain
[20:05] <Kilos> only me you cant charge till im rich
[20:05] <charl_> lol
[20:05] <Kilos> hehe
[20:07] <Kilos> isnt klaasvakie nuvo?
[20:08] <Kilos> hey psychicist are you behind us timewise
[20:10] <charl_> not to answer for him, but he's in the same country as me, so yes by one hour (in the winter)
[20:11] <Kilos> and in summer?
[20:11] <Kilos> you okes like aus that move the country around
[20:12] <charl_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_European_Time
[20:12] <charl_> CET is UTC+01:00
[20:12] <Kilos> is utc same as gmt
[20:13] <charl_> yes
[20:13] <charl_> Central European Summer Time (CEST) is UTC+02:00
[20:13] <Kilos> ah
[20:13] <charl_> so then it's the same
[20:13] <charl_> and we're on that for the majority of the year
[20:14] <inetpro> good evening
[20:14] <Kilos> why didnt they just leave time as classed + or - with gmt
[20:14] <charl_> "The following countries and cities have introduced the use of Central European Summer Time (UTC+02:00) between 1:00 UTC on the last Sunday of March, and 1:00 UTC on the last Sunday of October:"
[20:14] <charl_> for 5 months then approx CET and the other 7 CEST
[20:15] <charl_> hi inetpro 
[20:15] <Kilos> hi goosie
[20:15] <inetpro> charl_: what do you hear about Michael Schumacher there?
[20:16]  * Kilos pricks ears
[20:17] <inetpro> twitter giving mixed messages after his ski accident of this afternoon
[20:17] <Kilos> where are you
[20:17] <Kilos> ai!
[20:18] <inetpro> Kilos: I'm at home
[20:18] <Kilos> aw poor schumi
[20:18] <Kilos> im sure i asked you something today
[20:18] <inetpro> nice rains today... just haven't checked the rain meter yet
[20:18] <Kilos> oh no i told you we had some rain
[20:19] <inetpro> :-)
[20:20] <inetpro> Kilos: I was a big fan of Schumi, seriously hope he's ok
[20:20] <Kilos> me too
[20:20] <charl_> inetpro: nothing, what happened?
[20:20] <charl_> i don't follow sports
[20:20] <charl_> oh ski accident
[20:21] <spinza> Any good dc++ clients with web gui?  Or is this not good to talk about here? 
[20:21] <inetpro> looks like his condition worsened this evening
[20:21]  * Kilos thinks its fine to talk about here
[20:21] <inetpro> charl_: Medienbericht: Zustand weiter verschlechtert http://www.bild.de/sport/motorsport/michael-schumacher/schweres-schaedel-hirn-trauma-ski-sturz-34014066.bild.html#
[20:22] <charl_> ach nein, das ist nicht so gut
[20:22] <Kilos> is he inna bad way?
[20:23] <charl_> schaedel-hirn-trauma? sounds nasty
[20:23] <inetpro> Kilos: there's very little real info
[20:23] <Kilos> hard to work my way through that link
[20:23] <Kilos> ai!
[20:24] <inetpro> Kilos: Michael Schumacher injured in ski accident http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/12474/9092717/michael-schumacher-injured-in-ski-accident-in-france
[20:24] <Kilos> that dont say much hey
[20:25] <inetpro> thought maybe they tell more on life local tv there by charl
[20:26] <charl_> sorry haven't even watched any tv yet today
[20:28] <charl_> ah snowden's christmas message has been posted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iuLLkWefxs
[20:31] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight. see you all tomorrow
[20:36] <charl_> have a good evening