[00:00] <deadmund> jaime: You need to configure the samba client on those other linux machines (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba/SambaClientGuide
[00:00] <Sia-> gordonjcp, as i said i have archlinux and ubuntu of them., specially the ATI graphic card are very buggy! Actually isn't ubuntu or linux fault at all.
[00:00] <TJ-> EMKO: "update-initramfs -c -v -k 3.8.0-34-generic  2>&1 | tee /tmp/update02.log"    then after it finishes, "pastebinit /tmp/update02.log"
[00:01] <EMKO> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6654339/
[00:01] <constl> deadmund: Don't get it. why do I have to unmount a USB drive to change some permission on a folder.
[00:01] <jaime> Thank you deadmund
[00:02] <ramborocks> Hi i was looking to have a hard drive be listed under devices in the system folder on ubuntu
[00:02] <TJ-> EMKO: looking good... we'll do the other one now, too... "update-initramfs -ck 3.2.0-24-generic"
[00:02] <pvl1> hitsujiTMO: im starting to think its not an ubuntu problem :E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) its a script configured for the app in question methinks
[00:02] <constl> deadmund: Guess it's the filesystem, had to google it. Thanks for the tip deadmund
[00:03] <TJ-> EMKO: Then lets check that those versions are now known to update-initramfs tools: "ls -latr /var/lib/initramfs-tools/ | pastebinit"
[00:03] <hitsujiTMO> pvl1: need the lines above that for the exact error
[00:03] <deadmund> constl: Well, if the filesystem type doesn't support unix file permissions (e.g. ntfs, fat) then the system simply takes the permissions of the folder it was mounted in and pushes it through.  It's a bug that you can't chmod it while mounted, it's a feature that file permissions are extended to the files on that partition.
[00:03] <EMKO> TJ-:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6654356/
[00:03] <deadmund> constl: However, the bug is deep and old so I'm guessing the develops have some reason for keeping it (may be a good reason even!  IDK though)
[00:03] <deadmund> jaime: Sure
[00:04] <deadmund> constl: Yes, it's a shortcoming of the file system type
[00:04] <k1l_> !away > dziegler_off
[00:04] <kalekip1> Hi, I would like to enable hibernation, but Swap is not available. I tried to  follow this answer: http://askubuntu.com/a/199372, but aparently I don't have a swap partition. (How) should I make one?
[00:04] <TJ-> EMKO: Great :) This could be the final step! "update-grub 2>&1 | tee /tmp/update03.log"    then "pastebinit /tmp/update03.log"
[00:05] <constl> deadmund: Can you recommend a filesystem for an external drive residing on a ubuntu machine for file serving purposes? If it can be read by win8.1 or mac os x and still behave as ext3 would be awesome
[00:05] <EMKO> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6654362/
[00:06] <TJ-> EMKO: At this point, you should try a normal reboot ..... "reboot"  :)  *fingers crossed*
[00:06] <hitsujiTMO> kalekip1: can you pastebin the output of: lsblk
[00:06] <pvl1> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/Zp2w87Pz
[00:06] <ramborocks> i was looking to get my harddrive to show up under 'devices' in ubuntu
[00:06] <deadmund> constl: I would suggest NTFS or fat32 because those can be read by all three. But you can use ext4 and install drivers in windows to read it.
[00:06] <ramborocks> it shows up one of the partitions just not both
[00:06] <deadmund> constl: I think os x can read ext4 by default but I'm not sure.
[00:07] <kalekip1> hitsujiTMO: sudo blkid shows this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6654367/
[00:07] <constl> deadmund: Thank you sir, i will look more into it myself
[00:07] <kalekip1> hitsujiTMO: or did you really mean lsblk?
[00:07] <deadmund> constl: syre
[00:07] <hitsujiTMO> kalekip1: yes lsblk
[00:08] <kalekip1> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6654371/
[00:08] <hitsujiTMO> kalekip1: how much ram do you have?
[00:08] <kalekip1> hitsujiTMO: 16 GB
[00:08] <kalekip1> ;)
[00:09] <EMKO> TJ-: nice it booted and to fullscreen but still no unity just desktop image and mouse i can right click and context menu does popup but thats about it
[00:09] <hitsujiTMO> kalekip1: you'll need to resize down a partition (such as /dev/sda7) by at least 16gb and create a swap partition in its place
[00:10] <kalekip1> hitsujiTMO: OK, thanks. I'll probably do that tomorrow. It's getting late now :P
[00:10] <ramborocks> any tips on getting devices to show up under file / 'devices' in ubuntu?
[00:10] <hitsujiTMO> emko: does ctrl + alt + t bring up a terminal?
[00:10] <EMKO> hitsujiTMO: yes
[00:11] <gdi2k> kalekip1, why not first test with a swap file?
[00:11] <gdi2k> much easier than repartitioning
[00:11] <kalekip1> gdi2k: And how would I do that?
[00:11] <gdi2k> (side note: I never got hibernation working, regardless of swap file size)
[00:11] <gdi2k> (or swap size in general)
[00:11] <TJ-> EMKO: OK... well that's progress! I suggest you switch to a tty using "Ctrl+Alt+F1" log-in, and create a new user profile with "sudo adduser test" and then restart the GUI with "sudo service lightdm restart" and try logging in as "test" user. If the dash and panels are still not there we know its a system problem, not a user profile problem.
[00:11] <kalekip1> gdi2k: Has probably to do with your drivers
[00:12] <hitsujiTMO> pvl1: whats output of: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/gnunet-server*
[00:12] <gdi2k> kalekip1, Probably: check this: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-add-a-swap-file-on-an-arch-linux-cloud-server
[00:12] <hitsujiTMO> ramborocks: what type of device?
[00:13] <WhatIsTheMatrix> TJ-: it might be the .config .cache .dbus .gnome  etc, etc files in his /home dir
[00:13] <TJ-> WhatIsTheMatrix: Precisely; hence a new clean user profile will help us determine that
[00:13] <WhatIsTheMatrix> TJ-: yeah, rgr that
[00:13] <ramborocks> a harddrive
[00:13] <Autoclesis> A good time for a dumb question?
[00:13] <WhatIsTheMatrix> sure
[00:14] <hitsujiTMO> ramborocks: what connection type?
[00:14] <WhatIsTheMatrix> if there is such a thing
[00:14] <ramborocks> its mounted correctly i believe - one of the partitions show up but the main does not
[00:14] <hitsujiTMO> ramborocks: ahh. ok so not an issue with it not showing up in /dev then:P ok, what filesystem?
[00:15] <Autoclesis> Great
[00:15] <ramborocks> ubuntu 13.10 and i believe its ext4
[00:15] <ramborocks> whats the command to check blklid?
[00:15] <Autoclesis> How do I drag with ubuntu touchpad on asus netbook?
[00:15] <TJ-> ramborocks: Are you meaning you want to see it in the graphical user interface's File Manager ?
[00:15] <hitsujiTMO> ramborocks: sudo blkid
[00:16] <ObrienDave> Autoclesis, hold left button with thumb and use fingers to drag
[00:16] <ramborocks> yes i would like to see it when i go to unity under files - 'devices'
[00:16] <Autoclesis> hold the left button...
[00:16] <Autoclesis> okay ObrienDave let me try thank you
[00:16] <ramborocks> i was wrong its ntfs
[00:16] <hitsujiTMO> ramborocks: if its a ext fs then you can't afaik. you must manually mount it or add it to fstab
[00:17] <slimjimflim> hi i'm running 12.10 and every time i enter a password i get this silly prompt about not entering a keyring password.  i hit cancel and then keep doing what i was doing before.
[00:17] <hitsujiTMO> ramborocks: ntfs should auto show up in devices alright
[00:17] <Autoclesis> ObrienDave, what's the "left button"?
[00:17] <slimjimflim> i don't want to store my passwords on the machine.  how can i make it go away?
[00:17] <ramborocks> http://pastebin.com/2ysmhU5q
[00:17] <pvl1> hitsujiTMO: /var/lib/dpkg/info/gnunet-server.list  /var/lib/dpkg/info/gnunet-server.postrm
[00:17]  * Autoclesis feels retarded
[00:17] <ramborocks> small lotus shows up in the devices.. but yet 'lotus' does not
[00:17] <ObrienDave> Autoclesis, doesn't your touchpad have 2 buttons?
[00:18] <hitsujiTMO> ramborocks: lsblk please
[00:18] <Autoclesis> it has a single black space with a line on it
[00:19] <hitsujiTMO> pvl1: can you pastebin the contents of /var/lib/dpkg/info/gnunet-server.postrm
[00:19] <ramborocks> http://pastebin.com/L9QR4980
[00:20] <ObrienDave> Autoclesis, ok, try the left "half"
[00:20] <Autoclesis> http://www.mwave.com/mwave/specHR/images/BE05692d.jpg
[00:20] <Autoclesis> ObrienDave, ^^^
[00:20] <Autoclesis> yes I have been...
[00:21] <Xgates> hi guys
[00:21] <WhatIsTheMatrix> hello
[00:21] <ramborocks> thats a new command for me lsblk :)
[00:21] <kalekip1> Wooooo
[00:21] <TJ-> Autoclesis: Did you try a double-tap and drag?
[00:21] <kalekip1> it seems to work
[00:21] <kalekip1> gdi2k: Ty
[00:21] <hitsujiTMO> ramborocks: its not showing up indevices as you have it in fstab mounting to /mnt/media_sdb1
[00:22] <Autoclesis> TJ-, yes sir
[00:22] <ObrienDave> Autoclesis, then try further to the left. you might need to adjust the button "zone" area
[00:22] <ramborocks> hmm i dont want it to do that
[00:22] <TJ-> Autoclesis: What's the exact make/model of the netbook?
[00:22] <pvl1> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/QG1XeYeu no rush btw
[00:22] <hitsujiTMO> ramborocks: you need to remove the entry for /etc/fstab
[00:22] <ramborocks> im new. thats why i put it there.
[00:22] <Xgates> has anyone ever figured out a way to make the bootup, restart/shutdown of Plymouth clean looking 100% without any text spewing across the screen? It's my understand this is more of a laptop issue, desktops that have auto adjust of the aspect ratio aren't affected, but I'm not certain, I've always run Ubuntu on laptops...
[00:23] <ramborocks> if i remove it will it not load at all?
[00:23] <Autoclesis> Asus 1015E
[00:23] <hitsujiTMO> ramborocks: that ofcourse will require you to manually mount the drive each time
[00:23] <gdi2k> kalekip1, np. I think partitioned swap is supposed to be faster than swapfile, so if everything is working, you could consider going the partition route...
[00:23] <Autoclesis> 1015e ds03
[00:23] <Autoclesis> http://www.amazon.com/1015E-DS03-10-1-Inch-Laptop-Black-Ubuntu/dp/B00COQK8QY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1388276599&sr=8-1&keywords=asus+1015e-ds03
[00:23] <ramborocks> can i create a new mount point for it?
[00:24] <Xgates> Sure it's just a cosmetic issue, and I like tweaking this trying to make it work, but I've not been able to come up with anything, unless to keep things simple the kernel logging can be set to not display as much information...
[00:24] <ramborocks> i just want it to show up when i go look at devices rather than have to track it down
[00:24] <TJ-> Autoclesis: I read "...The touchpad, when you tap once, works as a left-click. If you tap twice and keep your finger on the pad you can drag windows or select text etc... pretty much like you're holding the left mouse button down. If you tap with 2 fingers it does send the "right-click" command but it doesn't work all the time..."
[00:24] <kalekip1> gdi2k: Any idea how much I should've allocated it? I gave it 1024 MB
[00:24] <Autoclesis> TJ-, thank you very much for researching it...
[00:24]  * Autoclesis reads 
[00:25] <gdi2k> kalekip1, I think for hibernate to work you're supposed to make it at least as large as RAM (16+ GB in your case)
[00:25] <Autoclesis> two finger right click works perfectly
[00:25] <TJ-> Autoclesis: Check this out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingTouchpadDetection
[00:25] <Autoclesis> okay
[00:25] <Xgates> also when using Nvidia drivers, with Saucy are we suppose to see the splash saying Ubuntu at boot?
[00:25] <Autoclesis> secondary menu appears with two finger double tap
[00:26] <kalekip1> gdi2k: correct, I just searched it :p
[00:26] <Autoclesis> TJ-, thanks, I'll work through that
[00:26] <Autoclesis> it's just dragging that's a bust
[00:27] <TJ-> Autoclesis: maybe the drag is a bit picky about the delay between the two taps? Try it much faster, or much slower, just in case.
[00:27] <Autoclesis> heh
[00:27] <Autoclesis> Are you saying I lack rhythm!?!
[00:28]  * Autoclesis shares some leftover peppermint cake with TJ- 
[00:28] <glitsj16> Xgates: on your plymouth topic .. not sure if i understand it correctly .. it's the wrong resolution? that can be fixed with some tinkering, if not ignore .. getting a bit slowww here
[00:28] <hitsujiTMO> pvl1: cat /etc/passwd | grep gnunet && cat /etc/group | grep gnunet && cat /etc/group | grep gnunetdns
[00:28] <Autoclesis> Let me poke at it and embarrass myself some more
[00:28] <Autoclesis> oh my god
[00:29] <WhatIsTheMatrix> it's working?
[00:29] <Xgates> glitsj16: yes resolution I know, I was asking if anyone figured out a way to not have the bootup/restart/shutdown process display any text, making it 100% text free?
[00:29] <Autoclesis> yes because I didn't realize it was also an actual button, WhatIsTheMatrix , ObrienDave , TJ-
[00:29] <WhatIsTheMatrix> usually that's what ppl say when it actually works, lol
[00:29] <Autoclesis> my Apple experience mislead me
[00:29] <TJ-> Autoclesis: Yay!
[00:29] <Autoclesis> When I picked up the netbook I felt the click of the actual button-button
[00:30] <Autoclesis> :)
[00:30] <Xgates> plymouth at least on laptops has always had text spewing across the screen...
[00:30] <ObrienDave> Autoclesis, ROFL ;))
[00:30] <Autoclesis> tee hee
[00:30]  * TJ- nom nom noms the peppermint cake
[00:30] <hitsujiTMO> kalekip1: for hibernation you need to allocate at a minimum the amount of ram you have
[00:30] <ObrienDave> Autoclesis, you made my day. thank you :)
[00:30]  * Autoclesis awards TJ- and ObrienDave and WhatIsTheMatrix  Distinguished Ubuntu Awards
[00:30] <Autoclesis> my pleasure!
[00:30] <kalekip1> hitsujiTMO: I see...
[00:30] <Autoclesis> I never had a netbook before...
[00:31] <WhatIsTheMatrix> guess it takes some nuance :-)
[00:31] <glitsj16> Xgates: okay, with having 'quiet' in the kernel boot params there's not much i see, so 100% graphical here, unless the fsck messages when they run)
[00:31] <hitsujiTMO> kalekip1: if at anystage you are using more ram than the size of the swap partition then hibernation will fail
[00:31] <Xgates> glitsj16: you on a desktop or laptop?
[00:31] <Autoclesis> I've been using Ubuntu forever
[00:32] <glitsj16> Xgates: laptop, also using nvidia
[00:32] <Autoclesis> but now I want to use mypaint in the field with a wacom
[00:32] <kalekip1> hitsujiTMO: My Windows hibernation keeps failing. Is that almost the same?
[00:32] <Xgates> Autoclesis: poor lad LOL...
[00:32] <Autoclesis> and I got a GPS dongle
[00:32] <Autoclesis> hehe
[00:32] <TJ-> Autoclesis: Don't tap it too hard :p
[00:32] <Xgates> glitsj16: so it does not display any text for you?
[00:32] <hitsujiTMO> kalekip1: that uses a seperate hibernation file which also needs to be the same as the amount of ram you have
[00:32] <Xgates> I even see the login prompt flash by the screen before the desktop loads
[00:33] <Xgates> that's ridiculous...
[00:33] <kalekip1> gdi2k: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq "It cannot use a swap file on an active file system."
[00:33] <kalekip1> What does that exactly mean?
[00:33] <glitsj16> Xgates: no not really, i did the resolution fix for plymouth but since then pretty clean and cosmetic
[00:33] <demophobia> I've tried Suspending the computer and returning from Suspend, and both times my display has crashed upon login and I've been forced to do a hard shut off and restart this desktop computer. What is the problem and how do I fix it? :)
[00:33] <gdi2k> kalekip1, ah
[00:33] <Xgates> glitsj16: what fix you did? Have an URL?
[00:33] <glitsj16> Xgates: sure, hang on
[00:33] <Xgates> thx
[00:33] <kalekip1> Does it mean that it doesn't work? :/
[00:34] <gdi2k> kalekip1, wasn't aware of that, but makes sense when I think about it. paritioning it is then
[00:34] <pvl1> hitsujiTMO: u need that outpu
[00:34] <pvl1> t
[00:34] <hitsujiTMO> pvl1: please
[00:34] <kalekip1> gdi2k: OK, thanks anyways :(
[00:34] <Xgates> For me in Saucy after I press the power button to resume from suspend my screen on the laptop looks like the brightness is turned half way down... :(
[00:34] <Xgates> and my F keys, my luck dont work, so have to reboot
[00:35] <pvl1> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/pbY5Rmua
[00:35] <kalekip1> gdi2k: Will look at it tomorrow. It's turning 2 o'clock. Good night.
[00:35] <gdi2k> kalekip1, if partitioning is a major mission, you may try just whacking a swap partition on a USB stick
[00:35] <gdi2k> just for testing
[00:35] <glitsj16> Xgates: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/script-to-fix-ubuntu-plymouth-for.html is where it all started for me, but the script in that page might not work anymore, depending on your ubuntu version .. http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/script-to-fix-ubuntu-plymouth-for.html  .. but depending on the ubuntu version that might not work anymore .. what are you on?
[00:35] <Xgates> Saucy
[00:36] <kalekip1> gdi2k: Time is not a problem, as long as it works without demolishing my PC :)
[00:36] <kalekip1> bai
[00:36] <glitsj16> Xgates: i don't think that has hwinfo in the repos, can you check ?
[00:36] <glitsj16> apt-cache policy hwinfo should do it
[00:36] <gdi2k> kalekip1, downsizing partitions has always worked for me, although it does take a long time. don't forget to back up though!
[00:37] <hitsujiTMO> pvl1: sudo deluser pavel gnunet
[00:37] <Xgates> no hwinfo in saucy
[00:37] <Xgates> I
[00:37] <Xgates> errrr
[00:38] <glitsj16> Xgates: no worries, there's always other options in linux
[00:38] <Xgates> I've seen that URL before, I can't remember if I tried that before or not...
[00:38] <hitsujiTMO> pvl1: once thats done, please try to purge the package again
[00:38] <pvl1> hitsujiTMO: that would make sense. but i dont understand it.
[00:38] <pvl1> hitsujiTMO: why would my group participation prevent a purge
[00:39] <glitsj16> Xgates: on saucy i believe the second answer on http://askubuntu.com/questions/6033/enabling-nvidia-driver-messes-up-splash-screen provides the same result
[00:39] <hitsujiTMO> pvl1: i thinks the problem stems from a poorly written uninstall script. when it tries to delete the group it returns an error because your user is in that group. since the script is set to -e it returns on any error
[00:40] <Xgates> I forgot but it's in the forum, you don't have to install anything just some manual changes is all...
[00:40] <Xgates> let me try to find it...
[00:40]  * Xgates digs
[00:40] <glitsj16> Xgates: if you have done the fix that should be recognizable in your /etc/default/grub
[00:40] <Xgates> yes
[00:41] <pvl1> hitsujiTMO: it failed the first time, i removed the user gnunet, and it worked. however, what about this gnunetdns, is that a group or user
[00:41] <hitsujiTMO> pvl1: its both, tho it seems it should just be a group according to the uninstall script
[00:42] <pvl1> hitsujiTMO: ill investigate it. thank you very much for your help!
[00:42] <hitsujiTMO> pvl1: no problems
[00:42] <constl> deadmund: I'm having some problems still with accessing a now ext4 external drive through samba. I'm guessing it has to do with how it gets automounted by default. Any hints?
[00:42] <hitsujiTMO> pvl1: what version of ubuntu are you using btw?
[00:42] <pvl1> hitsujiTMO: 13.10
[00:43] <hitsujiTMO> cool, i'll report a bug on the issue
[00:43] <demophobia> Is askubuntu.com the replacement of ubuntuforums for seeking technical support from the community?
[00:43] <pvl1> hitsujiTMO: yay i helped!
[00:43] <k1l_> demophobia: no, both is fine
[00:43] <k1l_> use what you like most
[00:43] <pvl1> hm
[00:43] <pvl1> !askubuntu
[00:43] <pvl1> mwahaha
[00:44] <demophobia> So askubuntu is a dedicated support resource, whereas ubuntuforums now merely happens to overlap with it in terms of having a forum where support may be found?
[00:45] <Spynxic> I'm trying to build libreoffice but it keeps failing at the mozilla module, I found a fix. It was to add --disable-mozilla to the configure file but I can't figure out where to add it
[00:45] <k1l_> demophobia: both is fine. use what you suits best.
[00:45] <k1l_> demophobia: there is no better or more official.
[00:46] <TJ-> Spynxic: If you're building the upstream source, then usually you'll do a "./configure --disable-mozilla" then "make"
[00:47] <haruto> Hi
[00:47] <haruto> How install polish language in gnome3.10 ?
[00:47] <demophobia> ok thanks
[00:48] <haruto> heh
[00:49] <constl> haruto: Check the "languages support" in dash
[00:50] <haruto> use gnomeubuntu
[00:50] <haruto> only english in setting
[00:52] <Spynxic> TJ-, Thanks
[00:53] <haruto> Use setting - Region and Language - Language - list 5 english, no polish language and add language button
[00:55]  * Autoclesis is now an expert DRAGGER of things
[00:55] <WhatIsTheMatrix> nice
[00:55] <Autoclesis> :)
[00:56] <WhatIsTheMatrix> it's always nice to get something like that, that should seem obvious but it's not, finally figured out :-)
[00:56] <somethingrandom> hey, how can i upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 daily build via terminal?
[00:56] <somethingrandom> or do i have to run the iso?
[00:56] <Autoclesis> WhatIsTheMatrix, right.
[00:56] <k1l_> somethingrandom: run update-manager with -d
[00:57] <edsiper> how can i fix this upgrade problem? "Broken iproute2:amd64 Conflicts on arpd [ amd64 ] < none > ( none )" ?
[00:57] <somethingrandom> never upgraded ubuntu to an unstable release before
[00:57] <haruto> in ubuntu gnome 3.10 have pl language, in gnomeubuntu not have pl language it is bad
[00:58] <k1l_> somethingrandom: be aware that something will break. its a dev release
[00:58] <somethingrandom> 13.10 breaks too much for me
[00:58] <somethingrandom> yeah
[00:58] <somethingrandom> the network manager and other stuff is crashing
[00:59] <WhatIsTheMatrix> fwiw, running 14.04 here
[00:59] <WhatIsTheMatrix> but in kde
[00:59] <somethingrandom> eew :)
[00:59] <k1l_> and we have #ubuntu+1 for unstable support
[01:00] <haruto> i m use language-pack-gnome-pl download - very thank for help heh
[01:00] <WhatIsTheMatrix> well, i could usr other WM's... but the ubuntu/unity desktop isn't stable here
[01:00] <WhatIsTheMatrix> and i just thought i'd use kde for a while. i  like the 'compositing' feature, and it's working
[01:00] <somethingrandom> gnome 3 looks pretty sweet
[01:01] <haruto> gnome3.10 is very fast and nice gui
[01:01] <kostkon> WhatIsTheMatrix, qt5 is coming to unity too. unity 8 is qt5 based
[01:01] <Xgates> hey guys
[01:02] <kostkon> Xgates, hey
[01:02] <somethingrandom> haruto: what distro is good for gnome3.10, just fedora or does "gnubuntu" work too?
[01:02] <[[thufir]]> I just did a clean install, and vuze stopped working on the clean install.  I don't get it.  Is there some trick to connect to all the vuze networks?  I get zero users.  It passes the firewall test.
[01:02] <Xgates> who was I talking to before about plymouth/nvidia are you still here?
[01:02] <somethingrandom> i'm brand new to ubuntu, but unity seems meh
[01:02] <haruto> kde is very bad desing
[01:03] <WhatIsTheMatrix> kostkon: rgr. i have some qt5 stuff installed on here
[01:03] <glitsj16> Xgates: me?
[01:03] <haruto> Gnome os started in 2014r
[01:03] <haruto> Font in kde is bad view
[01:03] <Xgates> glitsj16: ahh there you are :) here; --> http://tinyurl.com/owa22we
[01:03] <Xgates> that's all I've done before...
[01:03] <kostkon> WhatIsTheMatrix, yeah
[01:03] <somethingrandom> often the application icons randomly appear as additional icons in unity
[01:04] <somethingrandom> to the one i pinned
[01:04] <haruto> ohayo
[01:04] <WhatIsTheMatrix> edsiper: hello. perhaps if you just uninstall 'arpd'? it wants to install 'iproute2'... correct?
[01:04] <glitsj16> Xgates: yes that looks very similar if not the same
[01:05] <Xgates> oh I thought you installed some apps?
[01:05] <Xgates> btw for resolution to check what is supported, grub/shift vbeinfo?
[01:05] <bekks> Xgates: yes.
[01:05] <Xgates> ok thx
[01:05] <Xgates> brb
[01:06]  * Xgates goes to check screen rez
[01:06] <glitsj16> Xgates: i installed hwinfo bacause that way you don't need to go thru the grub prompt, but that was no longer available to you on saucy
[01:06] <kostkon> [[thufir]], looks like a network problem (of some sort) to me
[01:06] <[[thufir]]> I just did a clean install, and vuze stopped working on the clean install.  I don't get it.  Is there some trick to connect to all the vuze networks?  I get zero users.  It passes the firewall test.   I think a static IP address will help.   what do I put in the netmask field? http://pastebin.com/zJJGz7WJ
[01:07] <bekks> [[thufir]]: The netmask of your network.
[01:07] <kostkon> [[thufir]], are you using the same jvm as before?
[01:09] <Xgates> back
[01:09] <Xgates> ok got a nice rez size :)
[01:09] <kostkon> Xgates, resolution?
[01:09] <Xgates> yeah for plymouth with nvidia, 1920x1080
[01:09] <glitsj16> Xgates: sweet
[01:10] <kostkon> Xgates, the native screen res i presume.
[01:10] <glitsj16> Xgates: what about the text ?
[01:10] <[[thufir]]> ohh, I didn't think of same jvm.  it was oracle before, now it's openjdk (iced tea).   I think it's the static IP address I had before.  I don't understand **what** netmask currently is.  how do I know my netmask?  ifconfig doesn't say "netmask" is _____  or gateway is ______
[01:10] <Xgates> now it looks better, BUT when I restart, I'll get text on the screen, hmm sure would be nice if that could be remove, hehe, I'm just trying to go for ultimate clean here if possible,,,
[01:11] <Xgates> glitsj16: just appears a little at restart showing some of the shutdown processes...
[01:11] <Xgates> I wonder if those can be silenced?
[01:11] <WhatIsTheMatrix> edsiper: still here? you get it figured out?
[01:11] <Xgates> kostkon: yeah native...
[01:12] <[[thufir]]> what do I put for "gateway" when making a static ip address?    http://pastebin.com/zJJGz7WJ
[01:12] <glitsj16> Xgates: i have a blip of that too, just a sec though .. nothing i know that can silence that sorry .. but does it go to the plymouth screen after the blip ? the one with the dots i mean?
[01:12] <bekks> [[thufir]]: your default router ip.
[01:13] <gry> [[thufir]]: your modem address, 192.168.0.1 in some cases
[01:14] <Xgates> [[thufir]]: route -n
[01:14] <slimjimflim> hi i'm running 12.10 and every time i enter a password i get this silly prompt about not entering a keyring password.  i hit cancel and then keep doing what i was doing before.
[01:14] <[[thufir]]> gry:   yeah.....the computer connects with ethernet cable to a wifi adapter.  the wifi adapter connects wirelessly to the router....
[01:14] <slimjimflim> i don't want to store my passwords on the machine.  how can i make it go away?
[01:14] <Xgates> glitsj16: yeah I think I get screen after but it's fast, I forgot LOL, I have an ssd so it flys by
[01:14] <Xgates> but it's a lot better now
[01:14] <glitsj16> Xgates: lol
[01:15] <glitsj16> Xgates: you mentioned about trouble when returning from suspend as well ?
[01:15] <slimjimflim> computer problems?  blame bill gates.
[01:15] <[[thufir]]> do I input the open dns    servers like so:   208.67.222.222, 208.67.220.220   or without a ,   ?
[01:16] <Xgates> glitsj16: yeah when I press the power button the screen comes back half dim, I haven't tested it over, but it did it once, I have an Asus G75VW I mainly run Slack in, but I'm using Ubuntu to see if I can make the F5/F6 work for the screen brightness as well as testing out some other things, Steam next hehe :)
[01:17] <Xgates> I read some people had the F5/F6 working after doing a suspend but it didn't work
[01:17] <glitsj16> Xgates: yeah these cosmetic things take time, and in this case functionality
[01:18] <Xgates> funny thing, when it comes to this laptop I everything working in it just as good in Slack as Ubuntu which I find odd that Ubuntu doesn't have better support
[01:18] <Xgates> laptop I  have
[01:18] <glitsj16> Xgates: i think that all depends on how well your hardware is supported, sometimes manufacturers offer extras for linux, sometimes not .. i was lucky to find a PPA for everything that didn't work out of the box
[01:20] <Aut0Exec> hi
[01:20] <Aut0Exec> anyone here?
[01:20] <bekks> Aut0Exec: type: /names
[01:20] <hitsujiTMO> !anyone | Aut0Exec
[01:21] <Xgates> anyone here LOL
[01:21] <Xgates> this channel always has someone in it...
[01:23] <glitsj16> Xgates: if you can manually change brightness you can always assign those as shortcuts
[01:23] <Xgates> glitsj16: I'm going to try nvidiabl; https://github.com/guillaumezin/nvidiabl and see if it works
[01:23] <Aut0Exec> ok good listen.. i need to be able to run internet explorer in ubuntu
[01:23] <Aut0Exec> how can i accomplish this?
[01:23] <Xgates> it's about the last shot for me, I've tried about every other thing out there...
[01:23] <Xgates> Aut0Exec: Wine
[01:23] <hitsujiTMO> Aut0Exec: 1) wine 2) vm
[01:23] <Aut0Exec> does that work well?
[01:23] <Aut0Exec> wine works nice?
[01:23] <Xgates> yes or VM :)
[01:23] <Aut0Exec> kk
[01:24] <Xgates> yeah wine works good, but with IE hmm hard to tell, but you might be better off with using VirtualBox
[01:24] <Xgates> sheesh no one should ever need IE
[01:24] <Xgates> LMAO
[01:24] <Aut0Exec> lol yeah
[01:24] <hitsujiTMO> Aut0Exec: Microsoft actually supply vms for linux with IE http://www.modern.ie/en-us/virtualization-tools
[01:25] <Xgates> what a lame website not supporting Firefox?
[01:25] <hitsujiTMO> Aut0Exec: and you dont need a windows licence
[01:25] <glitsj16> Xgates: looks interesting, thx for the link
[01:25] <Aut0Exec> hitsujiTMO: thanks
[01:25] <Aut0Exec> ok
[01:26] <bekks> Now that sounds trustworthy... selfextracting vm archives. m(
[01:26] <Aut0Exec>  and you dont need a windows licence                                     . aca20031
[01:26] <Aut0Exec> 20:25:25      Aut0Exec | hitsujiTMO: thanks                                                                . acecipher
[01:26] <Aut0Exec> oops
[01:26] <Aut0Exec> sorry
[01:26] <Aut0Exec> :(
[01:26] <FloodBot1> Aut0Exec: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:26] <Aut0Exec> accident
[01:27] <Xgates> glitsj16: np and thx for your help...
[01:28] <Xgates> glitsj16: well off to make a backup image before installing and trying that nvidiabl
[01:28] <Xgates> bbl
[01:28] <Xgates> cheers
[01:29] <nashant> Hey. Is it possible to boot from an mSATA SSD drive?
[01:31] <[[thufir]]> I switched over to a static ip address to get vuze working.  Is there a diagnostic I can run?  I don't understand why it doesn't work anymore.  (I just did a clean-install.)  Aside from switching to Oracle JVM/JDK, what else is there?  the "test firewall" comes back fine, but I see:   0 users
[01:35] <Aut0Exec> you guys think 6 gigs of memory makes a huge diff over 4
[01:35] <Aut0Exec> ?
[01:35] <ObrienDave> 50%
[01:35] <Aut0Exec> performace wise
[01:39] <bekks> Aut0Exec: Depends on the RAM usage of the system.
[01:39] <Aut0Exec> k
[01:39] <Aut0Exec> bekks: basic shit like playing a video game
[01:41] <pvl1> !language
[01:41] <Aut0Exec> oh yeah
[01:41] <Aut0Exec> sorry
[01:42] <Aut0Exec> my bad brother
[01:42] <bekks> Aut0Exec: still depends on the RAM usage of the system.
[01:42] <Aut0Exec> kk
[01:42] <Aut0Exec> kewl
[01:42] <Aut0Exec> i just got 4 new gigs
[01:43] <Aut0Exec> turns out.... my old ones were bad
[01:43] <Aut0Exec> omg
[01:43] <Aut0Exec> much better now
[01:43] <FloodBot1> Aut0Exec: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:43] <bekks> Aut0Exec: And unused RAM is wasted RAM, basically.
[01:43] <Aut0Exec> k
[01:43] <Aut0Exec> anyways... to many rules here... i'm leaving... thanks for the chat
[01:46] <mojtaba> Hi, I want to make a backup from my laptop, I want a differential one. Do you know what program is the best and which locations should be backed up? (I have used deja-dups, but it just gave me some unknown errors.) something except deja-dups is preferable.
[01:47] <mojtaba> or may be incremental
[01:47] <bekks> !backup | mojtaba
[01:48] <somsip> !info diff-backup | mojtaba
[01:48] <somsip> !info rdiff-backup | mojtaba
[01:49] <somsip> mojtaba: so I use that with a cronjob script such as http://paste.ubuntu.com/6654691/
[01:51] <mojtaba> somsip: this script is backing up which directories?
[01:51] <somsip> mojtaba: / exckuding those listed
[01:51] <mojtaba> somsip: Why they are not needed?
[01:52] <mojtaba> somsip: If I buy another laptop and I want to restore the current system on it. is it possible?
[01:52] <somsip> mojtaba: I dont want to backup trash, nor temp files, nor mount points, etc...
[01:52] <esde> so i just backed up and restored ubuntu desktop 12.04, and it's like nothing ever happened. what kind of sorcery IS THIS??
[01:53] <esde> and my whole backup was <5GB :D
[01:53] <somsip> mojtaba: don't know. Never had the need to do that.
[01:54] <mojtaba> somsip:  may I know your cron job settings too?
[01:54] <mojtaba> somsip: I just need to install rdiff-backup?
[01:55] <somsip> mojtaba: 30 6 * * * /usr/local/bin/backup_all.sh > /dev/null 2>&1
[01:56] <somsip> mojtaba: that's root's crontab though. And yes, just install rdiff-backup and amend the script to suit what you need
[01:56] <mojtaba> somsip: ok, thanks
[01:56] <somsip> mojtaba: np
[01:58] <nashant> Hey. Is it possible to boot from an mSATA SSD drive?
[01:58] <bekks> nashant: If your BIOS supports it, yes.
[01:58] <k1l_> nashant: of course, if the mainboard supports that
[01:58] <nashant> great. cheers guys
[01:58] <k1l_> !away > dziegler
[02:04] <newbie|3> hey guys sorry to bother but how do u get to applications  in  ubuntu?
[02:04] <newbie|3> anyone?
[02:05] <newbie|3> or accessories?
[02:05] <k1l_> what do you mean?
[02:08] <arvind> hi going to install ubuntu for my 64 bit laptop
[02:08] <Bashing-om>  newbie|3: What version and what desk top environment are you using, makes a BIG difference.
[02:08] <hipitihop> newbie, ubuntu software center
[02:15] <arvind> hello can anyone help me out
[02:16] <WhatIsTheMatrix> !help
[02:16] <rembrandt> can i ask a question?
[02:16] <WhatIsTheMatrix> lol
[02:16] <WhatIsTheMatrix> !ask
[02:17] <rembrandt> can i ask a question, please?
[02:17] <arvind> installing ubuntu for my 64 bit OS want to know if i can go for ubuntu 10 from there can i update to ubuntu 13 or should i need to install ubuntu 13 (cant be updated)
[02:18] <bekks> arvind: Asking that question you should go with 12.04
[02:19] <arvind> bekks: that could mean need to change os every 1 year
[02:19] <dougl> is plymouth part of ubuntu?
[02:19] <WhatIsTheMatrix> dougl: yes. apt-cache shows it as being "required"
[02:20] <dougl> thanks
[02:21] <dougl> my 13.10 install hangs on my plymouth splash screen - any chance it will fix itself... is it checking the disk or something - how can I tell what is messed up?
[02:22] <sdfsdfs> so is ubuntu touch friendly ?
[02:22] <WhatIsTheMatrix> dougl: perhaps boot up into 'recovery mode' if you can and check logs
[02:22] <arvind> bekks: to get updates from repository if its still old (instead of not supported) so is there anyway i can get updates even its old ?
[02:23] <NoahFTW> finally
[02:23] <dougl> k thanks - err which log?
[02:24] <dougl> 13.04 boots fine on same machine
[02:24] <WhatIsTheMatrix> dougl: do you know how to boot into recover mode? just checking...
[02:24] <arvind> can someone guide me
[02:24] <dougl> WhatIsTheMatrix, is a grub boot option no?
[02:25] <WhatIsTheMatrix> dougl: i'd check... dmesg, syslog, kern.log, Xorg.0.log
[02:26] <WhatIsTheMatrix> dougl: yes. you need to choose advanced options at the grub boot menu
[02:27] <WhatIsTheMatrix> dougl: perhaps also, /var/lightdm/lightdm.log
[02:28] <pablo> warszawa
[02:32] <Bashing-om> arvind; I will try, what are you calling old ? Be aware End Of Life is no more support.
[02:35] <dougl> got it WhatIsTheMatrix
[02:35] <WhatIsTheMatrix> dougl: what did you get?
[02:35] <WhatIsTheMatrix> dougl: btw, all those log files i listed are in /var/log
[02:36] <WhatIsTheMatrix> dougl: you mean you got my list of log files to check?
[02:36] <dougl> WhatIsTheMatrix, was a fstab entry for a removable drive that was not plugged in
[02:36] <dougl> all of the above
[02:36] <WhatIsTheMatrix> dougl: ahhh, i see. good job
[02:36] <WhatIsTheMatrix> dougl: did you discover it in a log file?
[02:38] <dougl> thanks for the pointers WhatIsTheMatrix ... nevr made it to the logs, was the booting up and noticed the 3 nfs mounts failed that were in fstab and then it said drive was not there to mount so skip or wait skipped and edited fstab and all good
[02:39] <WhatIsTheMatrix> dougl: cool. glad you to hear you got it solved :-)
[02:39] <dougl> yes thanks WhatIsTheMatrix
[02:39] <WhatIsTheMatrix> yw
[02:40] <dougiel> :)
[02:44] <linea> hah
[02:48] <hugoalmeida> could someone give-me some advices? I am from Brazil, just wanna install ubuntu here
[02:49] <bekks> !eol | arvind
[02:49] <pottersky> hugoalmeida: what sort of advice, other than going to ubuntu.com, downloading the image and install it from a usb stick? :P
[02:50] <mojtaba> somsip: could you please let me know how can I insert the root's password in cron?
[02:51] <mojtaba> somsip: I just made that scrip and I am now running it. but I want to set the cron job. I am doing it for the first time.
[02:51] <somsip> mojtaba: why would you need to do that? The cronjob should be in root's crontab
[02:51] <mojtaba> somsip: you mean I should put it where?
[02:51] <somsip> mojtaba: sudo crontab -e
[02:51] <hugoalmeida> Ive forgotten all about mirc
[02:52] <hugoalmeida> oh no
[02:52] <hugoalmeida> @pottersky ... testing
[02:52] <pottersky> :P
[02:52] <hugoalmeida> no..
[02:52] <hugoalmeida> this isnt @
[02:52] <hugoalmeida> lol
[02:52] <mojtaba> somsip: ok, thanks
[02:53] <hugoalmeida> pottersky .. well, I'll need to format my pc?
[02:53] <hugoalmeida> will I (sorry)
[02:58] <pottersky> not necessarily...
[02:58] <pottersky> if i'm not mistaken you can install it side-by-side with Win for example
[03:00] <hugoalmeida> pottersky is ubuntu complicated to use?
[03:01] <pottersky> not at all
[03:02] <hugoalmeida> pottersky merci
[03:02] <pottersky> :)
[03:02] <pottersky> falou
[03:02] <hugoalmeida> pottersky hahahahah
[03:03] <hugoalmeida> pottersky o que ainda funciona no irc?
[03:03] <hugoalmeida> algum canal pra fazer algo? (antigamente era proibido falar de canal em qualquer canal)....
[03:03] <hugoalmeida> nem sei se é aidna
[03:06] <mojtaba> somsip: Is there any way to run the cron jobs when the external hard drive is available?
[03:07] <somsip> mojtaba: on event or at a certain time?
[03:08] <mojtaba> somsip: I want to make it weekly, but if the time passed, run the backup whenever the external hard drive is present.
[03:09] <somsip> mojtaba: no idea on that one. You probably need to hook into something that can monitor events, so that 'when ext drive is plugged in, run this script' Maybe dbus. I'm guessing
[03:11] <jeffrey_f> hugoalmeida.  #ubuntu-pt
[03:11] <mojtaba> somsip: is it possible to use 'if' statement? if the mounted point is equal to the path?
[03:12] <somsip> mojtaba: yes, but that will only occur when the script is run. So at 6:30am if the mountpoint is populated, run the script. Which is not what you said you wanted
[03:14] <hugoalmeida> jeffrey_f valew
[03:15] <mojtaba> somsip: yes, you are right
[03:15] <somsip> mojtaba: so either you only backup at a fixed time if the drive is present, or you find some way of hooking into the mount event and run it then
[03:18] <Xgates> hi guys
[03:18] <Xgates> For Dash I'm not interested in the ability to do a search in it, is there a way to remove the Search section at the top of Dash?
[03:24] <bonez2046> My laptop hard drive crashed. Acer is replacing the drive. I want to reinstall win 8 but also want dual boot 13.04. Do I load win 8 first and then 13.04 or what's the best approach on a new drive?
[03:25] <Xgates> install Win8 first so Ubuntu will add it later into Grub
[03:25] <Spynxic> building a program is mind numbingly boring
[03:26] <bonez2046> Xgates: Is this because win 8 wants to think it's in command?
[03:26] <bonez2046> do I set up the partitioning first, from win 8 install or after it's installed completely?
[03:27] <Xgates> Install Ubuntu first and Win8 will wipe it out the bootloader/grub
[03:27] <bonez2046> I'd think I want 3 partitions; 1) win 8, 2) ubuntu, and 3) data
[03:27] <bonez2046> ok
[03:27] <Gerowen> I have a USB serial cable connected to a router I want to configure using PuTTy, how can I tell what /dev/foo device it is?
[03:27] <Xgates> you install second for whichever bootloader you want in control...
[03:28] <rosenthal> HI there, I just upgraded from 12.04 LTS to 12.10 and the machine fails to boot. on reboot
[03:28] <rosenthal> now what
[03:29] <rosenthal> anyone there?
[03:29] <somsip> !patience | rosenthal
[03:30] <bonez2046> I'd want grub to control the loading
[03:30] <rosenthal> thanks, im kind of new to this
[03:30] <bonez2046> we are all here, rosenthal
[03:30] <aeaglez> How do I update Ubuntu 12.04 to ubuntu 13?
[03:30] <somsip> rosenthal: it's a common complaint, but not one I'm experienced with so just hang on and maybe repeat the question every 15 mins or so
[03:31] <bonez2046> aegis: if you run update-manager it should indicate you can upgrade there
[03:31] <bonez2046> aeaglez: if you run update-manager it should indicate you can upgrade there
[03:31] <somsip> aeaglez: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2113373
[03:31] <bonez2046> aeaglez: just follow the prompts
[03:32] <aeaglez> bonez2046, it does not indictate that i have an avaiable update
[03:33] <rosenthal> I keep ending with a black screen. I am also able to reach the grub screen and enter recovery mode if that helps
[03:34] <bonez2046> aeaglez: ok, so you launch update-manager and it updates or is it all up to date?
[03:34] <xangua> aeaglez: you can not directly upgrade from ubuntu 12.04 to 13.04 or 13.10
[03:35] <bonez2046> aeaglez: mine says The software on this computer is up to date. However, Ubuntu 13.04 is now available (you have 12.10).
[03:35] <aeaglez> it says no new updates available
[03:35] <rosenthal> aeaglez: run update-manager -d under an admin.
[03:35] <bonez2046> xangua: why does my system say the update is available, and  yet aeaglez system does not?
[03:36] <bonez2046> every update I have run from 9.x upward for ubuntu has been a point and click operation
[03:36] <aeaglez> yea it just showed up
[03:36] <aeaglez> ubuntu 13.04 is available
[03:36] <bonez2046> now it's giving that option?
[03:36] <aeaglez> 14.04**
[03:36] <bonez2046> cool, back up whatever you want saved
[03:36] <aeaglez> yes it is
[03:37] <aeaglez> am i certain i am going to loose everything ?
[03:37] <xangua> aeaglez: 14.04 is in development and not yet stable
[03:38] <aeaglez> xangua, will it work just for c++, html5,css3,etc?
[03:38] <SonikkuAmerica> aeaglez: It will, but at this time it cannot be recommended for use on production machines!
[03:39] <aeaglez> SonikkuAmerica, ok so how do i update to 13.04 only, or i cannot?
[03:39] <aeaglez> SonikkuAmerica, should i boot it on a live CD?
[03:39] <SonikkuAmerica> **14.04
[03:39] <xangua> aeaglez: you will need to upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 and then from 12.10 to 13.04
[03:40] <SonikkuAmerica> aeaglez: Yes, 12.04 LTS > 12.10 > 13.04 > 13.10
[03:40] <aeaglez> xangua, so if press the 14.04 button, will it automatically jump me to 14.04 or will it take me to 12.10 first?
[03:41] <Dildo> I have a dildo up my ass
[03:41] <xangua> !ops | Dildo
[03:42] <rosenthal>  HI there, I just upgraded from 12.04 LTS to 12.10 and the machine fails to boot on reboot, I keep ending with a black screen. I am also able to reach the grub screen and enter recovery mode if that helps
[03:45] <sam_> ok I installed ubuntu and its grub boot loader in same partition. now my pc won't get into ubuntu when I reboot my pc. how can I make mbr give me ubuntu choice?
[03:46] <somsip> rosenthal: exact copy of your problem that's worth following through: http://askubuntu.com/questions/271011/black-screen-on-boot-after-upgrade-to-12-10-from-12-04
[03:47] <FlacBean02> Is there a tool/command I can run that will tell me what version of PCI-E I have?
[03:47] <Gerowen> How can I find out what /dev/foo device my USB serial cable is so I can plug it into PuTTy to configure this router?
[03:49] <sweetgman> anyone know about LemonPOS?
[03:49] <walterwoj> Is it normal for /boot to be 400+ mb?
[03:51] <sweetgman> no chatter like usual i don't know why i keep coming in here
[03:51] <rosenthal> Would booting to the 12.10 live cd do the trick?
[03:52] <somsip> walterwoj: if you never delete anything out of it, quite possibly
[03:53] <WhatIsTheMatrix> FlacBean02: yes
[03:54] <WhatIsTheMatrix> FlacBean02: sudo lspci -vvv
[03:55] <FlacBean02> Good stuff Thanks!
[03:55] <WhatIsTheMatrix> FlacBean02: you're welcome
[03:55] <slimjimflim> WhatIsTheMatrix: you are cool
[03:55] <aeaglez> I have ubuntu 12.04 LTS, i want to upgrade, the only option that update manager is giving me is to upgrade straight to 14.04, what do i do?
[03:55] <walterwoj> I have been having disk space troubles lately.  Last month I ran out of Inodes and today it says no space left but when I look at the directory sizes they don't add up to the total space.
[03:55] <WhatIsTheMatrix> slimjimflim: haha, thanks. i'm just a regular person. just a casual gnu/linux user really.
[03:56] <slimjimflim> walterwoj: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/find-large-files-linux/
[03:56] <slimjimflim> walterwoj: i think the one that would help you is:  find {/path/to/directory} -type f -size +{file-size-in-kb}k -exec ls -lh {} \; | awk '{ print $8 ": " $5 }'
[03:57] <slimjimflim> use / for your path
[03:57] <WhatIsTheMatrix> slimjimflim: guess i'll take it as a compliment anyway. never sure what someone means by that. sometimes people are being flippant when they say that
[03:57] <slimjimflim> WhatIsTheMatrix: nope i'm serious
[03:57] <gerry_> i <3 lubuntu
[03:57] <hsgswre> Is anyone able to assist me real quickly
[03:57] <slimjimflim> hsgswre: don't ask to ask, just ask
[03:57] <Cajunfiend> im getting an error "update information is outdated" in a red (!) in my taskbar. anyone know what that is? i tried apt-get updating
[03:57] <hsgswre> k
[03:58] <WhatIsTheMatrix> slimjimflim: you look pretty cool there yourself ;-) looks like you know your sed/awk and whatnot!
[03:58] <hsgswre> trying to switch to win8 off of an elementary disc
[03:58] <hsgswre> i have no idea what to do
[03:58] <hsgswre> any suggestion
[03:58] <slimjimflim> WhatIsTheMatrix: well i know how to google it at least :P
[03:58] <WhatIsTheMatrix> slimjimflim: rgr that. it always  comes in handy i must say
[03:58] <somsip> !anyone | hsgswre
[03:58] <somsip> hsgswre: and how does this relate to ubuntu?
[03:58] <slimjimflim> WhatIsTheMatrix: yea i use sed and awk a lot
[03:58] <hsgswre> I'm running a ubuntu distribution
[03:58] <hsgswre> how does that not relate
[03:59] <slimjimflim> hsgswre: ubottu is a robot
[03:59] <WhatIsTheMatrix> slimjimflim: rgr. i leanred some of it a while back. forgotten most of it now. didn't use linux for quite some time, so rusty
[03:59] <slimjimflim> he was responding to what i just said
[03:59] <hsgswre> k
[03:59] <WhatIsTheMatrix> learned*
[03:59] <somsip> hsgswre: "win8" and "elementary" implied you were doing something with win8 and elementary. So explain more...
[03:59] <slimjimflim> WhatIsTheMatrix: yea it's super handy
[03:59] <hsgswre> K
[03:59] <hsgswre> I'm trying to switch to Win8 over ElemetaryOS
[03:59] <hsgswre> It's not allowing me to run the exe
[04:00] <WhatIsTheMatrix> slimjimflim: rgr
[04:00] <slimjimflim> hsgswre: you should go to #elementaryos and ask there
[04:00] <somsip> hsgswre: you were running win8/ubuntu dual boot and now you want to run elemtary/ubuntu dual boot?
[04:00] <AlecTaylor> hi
[04:00] <hsgswre> nah not dual boot, i'm currently running off a elementary temporary disc
[04:00] <WhatIsTheMatrix> what is elementary os? i've heard it mentioned several times
[04:00] <AlecTaylor> How do I restore the default login screen? - Some KDE stuff was installed, which I removed; and now my login screen is different (white background &etc)
[04:00] <slimjimflim> idk, but the channel exists
[04:00] <slimjimflim> and there are ppl in it
[04:00] <hsgswre> it's usually dead
[04:01] <WhatIsTheMatrix> oh
[04:01] <somsip> hsgswre: so you're running elementary not ubuntu. You need elementaryos support
[04:01] <slimjimflim> is that like mint or something?
[04:01] <hsgswre> sort of
[04:01] <haha> hello
[04:01] <haha> everyon
[04:01] <Logan_> somsip: elementary can be run as packages on top of Ubuntu, which would fall under our scope, I think...
[04:01] <slimjimflim> haha: don't ask to ask, just ask
[04:02] <aeaglez> should i upgrade to ubuntu 14.04? From 12.04?
[04:02] <WhatIsTheMatrix> AlecTaylor: not sure. do you still get the 'lightdm' to login with?
[04:02] <slimjimflim> isn't 13.x the next lts version?
[04:02] <slimjimflim> i was thinking about upgrading to that
[04:02] <Logan_> aeaglez: If you're looking for long-term support, you should at least wait until 14.04 is in its final release.
[04:02] <somsip> Logan_: erm...ok. I understand that the 'elementary temporary disc; was a eOS boot disc but maybe not.
[04:02] <AlecTaylor> Not sure WhatIsTheMatrix
[04:02] <gerry_> i heard elementary os was very good.. never tried it
[04:02] <aeaglez> slimjimflim, idk the only option it is giving me is to upgrade straight to 14.04
[04:02] <hsgswre> i hate it
[04:03] <walterwoj> when I do: sudo du . -d1 -h it tells me that . is 6.8gb but when I add all the directories up they do not total 6.8 gb
[04:03] <slimjimflim> gotcha Logan_
[04:03] <Logan_> aeaglez: You probably have development releases turned on in your config.
[04:03] <WhatIsTheMatrix> aeaglez: depends on how bad you want to run a  'testing' version of the os... i am running it right now
[04:03] <jakezen> hey guys
[04:03] <gerry_> i'm too used to lubuntu to change
[04:04] <slimjimflim> i've been using xubuntu forever.  now i'm back on plain ubuntu.  don't really like it in comparison
[04:04] <WhatIsTheMatrix> AlecTaylor: you could try...  'sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm' and see if that does anything
[04:04] <gerry_> quidsup gave elementary os #2 best distro of 2013
[04:04] <gerald> hi all
[04:04] <slimjimflim> but now i'm kinda an vanilla ubuntu noob again
[04:04] <FlacBean02> Here is a snippet of the output of lspci http://pastebin.com/A1R8erWT Just to make sure I'm reading this right, I have version 2.0 of PCI-E correct?
[04:04] <WhatIsTheMatrix> AlecTaylor: you'll probably need to  restart X to see if it does
[04:04] <jakezen> i tried elementary os for a week
[04:04] <AlecTaylor> WhatIsTheMatrix: I ran it, will test when I logout next
[04:04] <slimjimflim> is there a command to switch from vanilla ubuntu to xubuntu?
[04:04] <AlecTaylor> Thanks
[04:05] <WhatIsTheMatrix> AlecTaylor: okay. i have my doubts that will return the original login background, but worth a try
[04:05] <rosenthal> Hi users, I updated ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10 and I am seeing a flat black image uppon reboot...any ideas???
[04:05] <AlecTaylor> Mmm, well if you think of anything else do tell
[04:06] <jakezen> overall elementary is good with some bugs, it crashed after i upgraded the kernel to 3.11
[04:06] <slimjimflim> rosenthal: do you get to grub?
[04:06] <gerry_> slimjimflim you could install the xubuntu-desktop on top of it and choose xubuntu on your lightdm login screen
[04:06] <jakezen> 2x
[04:06] <gerald> im willing to give 1 million dollars to any team of devs that can make a streamline linux distro within 6 months with full windows compatibility
[04:06] <jony> 安装N卡驱动失败后 卸载 NVIDIA X Server Settings 在设置管理器里删不掉怎么办
[04:06] <somsip> !zh | jony
[04:06] <slimjimflim> gerry_: what's lightdm?
[04:06] <rosenthal> slimjimflim: Im able to access grub. What do I change
[04:06] <slimjimflim> gerry_: are you talking about a separate partition?
[04:07] <Cajunfiend> im getting an error "update information is outdated" in a red (!) in my taskbar. anyone know what that is? i tried apt-get updating
[04:07] <Logan_> Cajunfiend: Do you get any errors after doing an apt-get update?
[04:07] <slimjimflim> rosenthal: you could try one of the previous images
[04:07] <somsip> Cajunfiend: what version of ubuntu?
[04:07] <gerry_> slimjimflim no... go to the terminal and type sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop... and you'll have xubuntu as a choice in your login.. no partition needed
[04:07] <slimjimflim> gerry_: score
[04:07] <Cajunfiend> 13.10 and yes i get errors for launchpad for some reason
[04:07] <Cajunfiend> ppa.launchpad.net
[04:07] <Logan_> Cajunfiend: Pastebin your output. It's probably a dead PPA.
[04:07] <Logan_> !pastebin | Cajunfiend
[04:08] <gerry_> slimjimflim i have vanilla ubuntu, ubuntu gnome remix, xubuntu, and lubuntu all in one distro
[04:08] <gerald> is any one listening to what i just said?
[04:08] <somsip> gerald: do you have a real support question?
[04:08] <Logan_> !offtopic | gerald
[04:09] <rosenthal> slimjimflim: I booted off the 12.04 live CD, 12.10 is installed. Can I downgrade from there?
[04:09] <gerry_> my favorite being lubuntu because it's so lightweight and tbh looks just as good as any eye-candy desktop depending on how you design it
[04:09] <walterwoj> gerald:   No one here wastes time on nonsense like that
[04:09] <gerry_> put the panel on top, made it black, added docky and compositing.. and i'm good to go
[04:09] <gerald> i wasnt kidding @ walterwoj
[04:09] <WhatIsTheMatrix> AlecTaylor: you might also do the following....  sudo dpkg-reconfigure unity-greeter
[04:09] <Cajunfiend> Logan_, thanks. I fixed it. was a bad ppa :)
[04:10] <Logan_> Cajunfiend: Awesome, good to hear! :)
[04:10] <kostkon> gerald, kidding or not we just don't care
[04:10] <walterwoj> gerald:  If you were serious you would hire a firm to do that for you, not trolling here, goodbye
[04:10] <gerald> ok thank you for your time
[04:12] <gerald> wasnt trolling jus wanted to help the linux community with a project but noone seems to have the will
[04:12] <Xgates> anyone know if there's a way to remove the Search section at the top of Dash?
[04:12] <Logan_> gerald: In any case, that discussion doesn't belong in this channel. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for that sort of thing.
[04:13] <jakezen> no sweat gerald
[04:13] <rosenthal> So how would I change the grub file for it to boot correctly
[04:13] <gerald> ok thanks for pointing me to the right people
[04:14] <ner0x> Is there a way to play my files from my linux box streamed to my PS3?
[04:15] <gerry_> lol that was such a troll suggestion.. just use wine
[04:16] <ioda> stop your noob
[04:16] <Logan_> !upnp | ner0x
[04:16] <ioda> SHERAPY
[04:16] <ner0x> Logan_++ # Thank you sir/ma'am.
[04:18] <jakezen> any1 tried tvtime
[04:18] <Logan_> What on earth is an iRadio? Hmm.
[04:18] <Logan_> ner0x: Sir. :) And you might also want to look into MiniDLNA: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MiniDLNA
[04:19] <rosenthal> Should I just revert to the LTS i originialy had working?
[04:21] <jakezen> 12.04.3 is solid
[04:21] <AlecTaylor> hi
[04:22] <AlecTaylor> It didn't work, still have white background login screen :\
[04:23] <mojtaba> somsip: in 30 6 * * * /usr/local/bin/backup_all.sh > /dev/null 2>&1, what is > /dev/null2>&1 exactly?
[04:23] <AlecTaylor> WhatIsTheMatrix: It didn't work
[04:24] <WhatIsTheMatrix> AlecTaylor: rgr
[04:25] <WhatIsTheMatrix> AlecTaylor: it was worth a try. did you  also do? although that probably isn't it either --> sudo dpkg-reconfigure unity-greeter
[04:26] <somsip> mojtaba: redirects output to somewhere that doesn't matter
[04:26] <mojtaba> > /dev/null this one redirects the output. what does this one do? 2>&1?
[04:26] <AlecTaylor> WhatIsTheMatrix: Yeah, I did do the unity-greeter one also
[04:27] <AlecTaylor> mojtaba: Redirects all stdin and stderr input
[04:28] <somsip> mojtaba: redirects both stdout and stderr to dev/null
[04:28] <WhatIsTheMatrix> AlecTaylor: rgr. what do you get from the following? --> cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[04:28] <mojtaba> AlecTaylor: somsip: Why you have put it at the end? 2>&1
[04:29]  * AlecTaylor got /usr/sbin/lightdm
[04:29] <AlecTaylor> ^ WhatIsTheMatrix
[04:29]  * AlecTaylor got /usr/sbin/lightdm
[04:30] <somsip> mojtaba: because that is the required syntax
[04:30] <mojtaba> somsip: ok, thank you very much. I learned a lot today
[04:31] <mojtaba> somsip: I get some errors while running the backup.
[04:31] <mojtaba> UpdateError bin/domainname Updated mirror temp file /media/mojtaba/Elements1/Mojtaba/DellStudio1555_partialBackup/bin/rdiff-backup.tmp.52 does not match source
[04:31] <mojtaba> UpdateError bin/nisdomainname Updated mirror temp file /media/mojtaba/Elements1/Mojtaba/DellStudio1555_partialBackup/bin/rdiff-backup.tmp.101 does not match source
[04:31] <mojtaba> UpdateError bin/uncompress Updated mirror temp file /media/mojtaba/Elements1/Mojtaba/DellStudio1555_partialBackup/bin/rdiff-backup.tmp.157 does not match source
[04:31] <mojtaba> UpdateError bin/ypdomainname Updated mirror temp file /media/mojtaba/Elements1/Mojtaba/DellStudio1555_partialBackup/bin/rdiff-backup.tmp.163 does not match source
[04:31] <mojtaba> SpecialFileError home/.ecryptfs/mojtaba/.Private/ECRYPTFS_FNEK_ENCRYPTED.FWY41TOB6SxmakRu4P0KQvV3FShxAuM3iBU7CYPnkNV-4tZNSpZbPw90vU--/ECRYPTFS_FNEK_ENCRYPTED.FWY41TOB6SxmakRu4P0KQvV3FShxAuM3iBU73F6GaaIm-E3devUiPnv9b--- Socket error: AF_UNIX path too long
[04:31] <FloodBot1> mojtaba: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:31] <somsip> mojtaba: here is some light reading http://www.xaprb.com/blog/2006/06/06/what-does-devnull-21-mean/
[04:32] <WhatIsTheMatrix> AlecTaylor: rgr. yeah, i don't know what package would restore it. it's gotta be one of them tho! if you state the issue again perhaps someone else will know
[04:32] <mojtaba> somsip: Do you know what are those errors?
[04:36] <somsip> mojtaba: no. I'd guess they are rdiff-backup errors
[04:36] <mojtaba> somsip: how can I ensure if the backup is correct?
[04:37] <forresthopkinsa> hi I have a quick question, the answer might be obvious, i dunno
[04:37] <ranger> Hello, I am trying to install Ubuntu on a new computer, but have ran into an issue i have never seen before. I was able to go through the whole install, but during the install, and afterwords, I am unable to properly interact with "windows" meaning I cannot move a window around on the screen or click buttons on it, as if it wasn't even there, but I can use keyboard controls just fine. Does anyone know of this problem and have a solut
[04:37] <forresthopkinsa> you know how when you login, it should show $path before the command yuou're typing?
[04:37] <forresthopkinsa> wait should I specifically join a server channel?
[04:37] <forresthopkinsa> is there a separate server channel?
[04:38] <kostkon> forresthopkinsa, you are already in #ubuntu
[04:38] <forresthopkinsa> ok...
[04:38] <AlecTaylor> WhatIsTheMatrix: Alright, I'll ask in a few hours
[04:38] <kostkon> forresthopkinsa, go on
[04:38] <WhatIsTheMatrix> AlecTaylor: ok, good luck
[04:38] <somsip> mojtaba: verify it. And the answer to your next question is to read the manual
[04:38] <forresthopkinsa> instead of showing the homepath before the command line, it just shows $
[04:38] <forresthopkinsa> on a new user i made
[04:39] <ranger> Has anyone ran into my problem themselves, or heard of it otherwise before?
[04:39] <forresthopkinsa> would screenshots be helpful?
[04:40] <kostkon> forresthopkinsa, w8 you asked if there is an ubuntu server channel?
[04:40] <forresthopkinsa> mm hmm
[04:40] <kostkon> !server | forresthopkinsa
[04:40] <kostkon> hmm
[04:40] <kostkon> forresthopkinsa, #ubuntu-server
[04:40] <forresthopkinsa> what
[04:41] <forresthopkinsa> ok thanks
[04:41] <forresthopkinsa> mm hmm thanks
[04:41] <somsip> kostkon: ubottu is sleepy-slow today...
[04:41] <kostkon> somsip, heh
[04:42] <mikodo> too much turkey
[04:43] <somsip> mikodo: hehe
[04:43] <ranger> Does anyone know why I am not able to use "windows" as in a window on the desktop (instance of firefox, file manager, etc) properly? I am not able to use my mouse to drag them around the screen, or click buttons on them. It's as if the windows don't exist, but I can use keyboard controls just fine.
[04:48] <ranger> Is anyone familiar with my issue?
[04:49] <Cheeseball> Hi! I just had a simple question. I like the mpv media player (https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv). I see Ubuntu has the mpv package https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mpv. If a new version of mpv is released, will Ubuntu update the package so it's the newest version, or will I have to add a PPA, like https://launchpad.net/~mc3man/+archive/mpv-tests? I'm just asking because I saw this https://askubuntu.com/questions/151283/why-dont-the-ubuntu
[04:49] <Cheeseball> -repositories-have-the-latest-versions-of-software.
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[04:49] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: no, sorry. i take it you do have a mouse pointer
[04:49] <WhatIsTheMatrix> howdy lotuspsychje
[04:49] <ranger> I do have a mouse pointer, but it doesn't do anything, or interact with anything.
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> Cheeseball: normally it will update itself
[04:49] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: does it move?
[04:50] <somsip> Cheeseball: dpends on the release. Minor releases do get upgraded usually, but major releases won't. I think that's the general rule of thumb anyway
[04:50] <ranger> Yes
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> WhatIsTheMatrix: hello mate :p
[04:50] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: roger. sorry i don't know
[04:50] <Cheeseball> Should I add the PPA anyway just to be safe and make sure I don't miss anything?
[04:50] <yick2> Can I use mouse for left handed option and not disable the touch pad tap click ?
[04:50] <ranger> Ok, thanks, I appreciate the acknolegment of my problem :)
[04:50] <Logan_> Cheeseball: You'll usually have to wait until the next release of Ubuntu because stable release updates are usually only for minor updates.
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | Cheeseball
[04:50] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: sure. you just installed?
[04:51] <ranger> Yes
[04:51] <ranger> I tried 13.10 and 12.04
[04:51] <Logan_> Cheeseball: Bear in mind that PPAs don't have the same kind of support/quality (necessarily) that official, Ubuntu repository packages do.
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> im looking for an all-in-one gui ssd tweak package, anyone seen something like this?
[04:52] <Cheeseball> Alright, thanks. So what you're saying is that if the package got updated, it'd just be for security updates/bugfixes?
[04:52] <somsip> Cheeseball: pretty much how it seems to be to me
[04:52] <Logan_> Cheeseball: For the most part, yes. Unless it's backported, which doesn't happen all that often due to the complexity involved.
[04:52] <Cheeseball> Oh, alright, thanks.
[04:53] <Logan_> If you like having a rolling release with all of the latest versions of packages, try Debian.
[04:53] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: roger that. perhaps something that needs to be installed has not been installed yet.
[04:54] <Cheeseball> Hm. That's what I would like, a rolling release distro, but Arch is a bit of a hassle to set up, and I hear Debian freezes packages too, and they generally make choices I don't agree with (Iceweasel instead of Firefox, and not including wifi drivers in the name of freedom)
[04:54] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: do you have this package installed yet? --> xserver-xorg-input-mouse
[04:54] <ranger> Mabye, but I don't know what that could be, as the problem persisted in the installation for ubuntu (though the problem only seems to exist if there are 2+ windows open)
[04:55] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: oh. that does sound strange
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> Cheeseball: better stay on ubuntu, the most popular Os :p
[04:55] <ranger> unless thats a default package, I don't have it, as I ran the install about an hour ago
[04:55] <sherry> Hi, I am looking for a file system benchmarking tool that can generate i/o from distribution of file sizes, any suggestion?
[04:55] <Xgates> in Saucy how can you disable automount of usb devices for FIles 3.8.2?
[04:55] <Cheeseball> Oh well. Tough for me I guess. I guess I'll install Xubuntu and add the PPA. Thanks for clarifying that, guys.
[04:55] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: run this command to see if you have it --> dpkg -l xserver-xorg-input-mouse
[04:55] <Xgates> Files 3.8.2 ....
[04:56] <Xgates> I can't believe for a filemanger there are no preferences options...
[04:56] <Xgates> hmm
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> Xgates: did you check the 'details' icon?
[04:56] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: if you have it, the first two chars will be --> ii
[04:56] <ranger> Ok, I'll try that, but i'm actually booted into windows on the computer in question atm
[04:56] <ranger> Ok, thx
[04:56] <yick2> Can the left hand mouse option Not disable the touch pad tap to click ?
[04:57] <ranger> I'll see if I can open this tab on my tablet
[04:57] <Xgates> lotuspsychje: what is the details icon?
[04:57] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: you pretty new to gnu/linux?
[04:57] <Logan_> sherry: Does this seem like what you're looking for? http://www.iozone.org/ You can install it with sudo apt-get install iozone3
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> Xgates: where you can chose what to do, when you plugin media
[04:58] <ranger> I have used Ubuntu before, but I never got very familiar with terminal.
[04:58] <ranger> I was more of a copy - paster
[04:58] <sherry> Logan_: I got the whole list bt I am not sure that iozone can generate workloads from the "distribution of file sizes"
[04:58] <Xgates> lotuspsychje: ahhh System Settings, nope nothing there for USB
[04:58] <Logan_> sherry: Okay, was a shot in the dark. Perhaps someone else knows something better... :/
[04:59] <ranger> I am not very familiar with gnu specifiacally though
[04:59] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: it might be helpful if you could be running when trying to get help. but you'd probably need to be at a 'virtual console' and running irssi(an irc chat client). so you'd need to familiarize yourself some with irssi
[04:59] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: running ubuntu* when trying to get help
[04:59] <sherry> Logan_:thanks btw
[05:00] <ranger> Yeah, thats a fair point
[05:00] <Xgates> lotuspsychje: ok I checked 'Never prompt or start programs on media insertion' and that did the trick... thanks... :)
[05:00] <ranger> I'm trying to pull up this irc on another device so I can boot to ubuntu
[05:00] <Logan_> sherry: No problem!
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> Xgates: thats what i meant :p
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Xgates
[05:01] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: gnu is some of the software made for linux. GNU is headed up by richard stallman --> www.gnu.org
[05:01] <Xgates> LOL, I'm so use to file managers with the settings in them...
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> Xgates: check also this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[05:01] <Xgates> never thought to look at the system settings hehe
[05:01] <ranger_> test
[05:02] <ranger_> Ok, thanks, I'll check that out
[05:02] <ranger_> Rebooting to ubuntu
[05:02] <Xgates> lotuspsychje: I'm a Linux Geek, just not a Ubuntu user, I know how to manually mount, but thanks...
[05:02]  * Xgates is a Slacker actually... 
[05:02] <Xgates> SpaceFM
[05:02] <Xgates> WoOT
[05:02] <excalibr> How do you mount one of the partitions in raw image?
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> Xgates: ok welcome to the ubuntu community
[05:02] <Xgates> lotuspsychje: http://ignorantguru.github.io/spacefm/
[05:03] <forresthopkinsa> Hey, someone help me please! I was asking the people in the server channel, but they're pretty unresponsive. since it's command-line, I suppose I can ask for help here also?
[05:03] <Xgates> Well I'm not new to Ubuntu hehe, been around it since it was born, just don't use it all that often...
[05:03] <ranger_> What was that command again, to checck for mouse input?
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> Xgates: plz use this channel for ubuntu support only, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> !ask | forresthopkinsa
[05:03] <excalibr> How do you mount one of the partitions in raw image?
[05:04] <Xgates> out for now thanks again...
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> !mount | excalibr
[05:04] <forresthopkinsa> I made a new user, but it's having some problems. The issues and screenshots are both located at http://imgur.com/ioU5RJ2
[05:04] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger_: when you are at a virtual console, you'll want to install a package called 'gpm' so that you can copy and paste at the virtual consoles
[05:04] <ranger_> When I rebooted, into ubuntu, I lost the command you told me to run, what was it again?
[05:05] <ranger_> OK
[05:05] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: --> dpkg -l xserver-xorg-input-mouse
[05:05] <ranger_> thx
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> forresthopkinsa: can you tell us what you did, and what you like to acchieve?
[05:07] <forresthopkinsa> I created a new user, Jacob. When I log into his profile using SSH, the prompt should show "jacob@Neptune:~$" before the commands I enter. Instead, it just shows the $. You can see the difference between my profile and his side by side at http://imgur.com/ioU5RJ2
[05:07] <ranger_> Yes, I have that package installed
[05:07] <forresthopkinsa> His profile also does not work with /etc/bash.bashrc aliases and functions.
[05:08] <excalibr> lotuspsychje, that help page barely touch mount usage
[05:08] <ranger_> WhatIsTheMatrix: I do have that installed.
[05:08] <excalibr> it's so lack of depth
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> excalibr: what are you trying to mount exactly mate?
[05:08] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger_: ok. like i  said, i don't know what's wrong, sorry. i'm still guessing that the problem is that something that needs to be installed is not installed on your fresh install of ubuntu yet. dunno tho
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> WhatIsTheMatrix: did you the glmatrix from xscreensaver?
[05:09] <excalibr> a single partition in raw disk image
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> *try
[05:10] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger_: what video card do you have and do you know what driver it's using?
[05:10] <WhatIsTheMatrix> lotuspsychje: yes, i have tried it before. you bet! ;-)
[05:10] <somsip> forresthopkinsa: how did you add the user? What was the command you used?
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> WhatIsTheMatrix: just installed it, removed gnome saver looking nicely on my fresh system
[05:11] <ranger_> WhatIsTheMatrix: I have a nvidia gtx 770m, idk what driver its using, probably whatever ubuntu uses by default
[05:11] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger_: that's a real new nvidia card?
[05:11] <forresthopkinsa> useradd -g summit jacob
[05:11] <forresthopkinsa> somsip: useradd -g summit jacob
[05:12] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger_: really new laptop?
[05:12] <WhatIsTheMatrix> lotuspsychje: cool. i  love xscreensaver and the -gl and extras for it :)
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> WhatIsTheMatrix: just had to set it in startup items xscreensaver -nosplash
[05:13] <WhatIsTheMatrix> lotuspsychje: rgr that
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> djtorr3: wb, have you been able to fix your issue?
[05:15] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger_: still here?
[05:16] <forresthopkinsa> somsip: should I just delete the user and recreate it?
[05:16] <forresthopkinsa> http://imgur.com/ioU5RJ2
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> forresthopkinsa: any errors on ssh in /var/log/auth ?
[05:16] <ranger> back, for some reason I stoped recieving irc text updates after you asked about the laptop
[05:16] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: roger
[05:17] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger_: really new laptop?
[05:17] <ranger> WhatIsTheMatrix: Idk if my previous msgs got through, but yeah it's new, just got it this summer. Sager np8235
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> forresthopkinsa: http://askubuntu.com/questions/16650/create-a-new-ssh-user-on-ubuntu-server
[05:18] <somsip> forresthopkinsa: have a look at man useradd. I'm too busy to help further. Sorry
[05:18] <forresthopkinsa> ok...
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> forresthopkinsa: look at the url, maybe you overlooked something?
[05:18] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: perhaps you should enable the 'restricted' repository(for proprietary driver for hardware devices) if it isn't already  enabled and install the nvidia-319 drivers
[05:19] <forresthopkinsa> ok im reading it
[05:19] <ranger> WhatIsTheMatrix: Is there a command for that, because all I have access to is the terminal, as I cant open new programms, or switch between them if I do open one
[05:20] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: yeah. pretty new then. might be a hardware issue
[05:21] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: do you know how to use a terminal text editor? i myself know just enough to be dangerous with 'vim'
[05:21] <ranger> WhatIsTheMatrix: Yeah, it might be. I thought that since this time I got a computer with intel and nvidia, I would get better hardware support, but that may not be true
[05:22] <ranger> WhatIsTheMatrix:  I do not
[05:22] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: really new hardware can be a little flaky with gnu/linux sometimes
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> ranger: whats your ubuntu version mate?
[05:23] <forresthopkinsa> well my auth.log says that some IP that I don't recognize has been spamming my server trying to login as root o.O
[05:23] <ranger> WhatIsTheMatrix:  I'm on 13.10, but I also saw the problem on 12.04
[05:24] <ranger> lotuspsychje: ^^ what I said to matix
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> !info denyhosts | forresthopkinsa
[05:24] <forresthopkinsa> they havent gotten in yet though
[05:25] <forresthopkinsa> Failed password for root from 222.186.52.49 port 1422 ssh2
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> forresthopkinsa: well it would be prudent to be cautious, alot of ssh hammering going on
[05:25] <forresthopkinsa> ._.
[05:25] <forresthopkinsa> that is stupid
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> forresthopkinsa: what is?
[05:25] <forresthopkinsa> what does a game server matetr to anyone
[05:25] <forresthopkinsa> that people would try to hack me
[05:26] <WhatIsTheMatrix> because they can?
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> forresthopkinsa: they always have an own purpose to use your machine
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> !security | forresthopkinsa
[05:26] <forresthopkinsa> ugh. humans suck.
[05:26] <forresthopkinsa> well they havent gotten in, in fact, they have been faced with
[05:26] <forresthopkinsa> Disconnecting: Too many authentication failures for root [preauth]
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> forresthopkinsa: we can also learn from this, to tighten our system
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> it all depends how you look at it
[05:27] <forresthopkinsa> I'm going to do a geo-IP lookup
[05:28] <forresthopkinsa> see if I can find where these login attempts are coming from
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> forresthopkinsa: maybe focus on your user issue :p
[05:28] <forresthopkinsa> good point
[05:28] <forresthopkinsa> I'm just going to delete it and recreate it, after I check the ssh config
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> forresthopkinsa: your going to see alot of ssh hammering, and if its comming from botnets, its useless you track them
[05:29] <forresthopkinsa> hm ok
[05:29] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: you could install 'nano'. it's supposed to be a pretty user-friendly terminal text editor
[05:30] <forresthopkinsa> Vi is better ;)
[05:31] <WhatIsTheMatrix> forresthopkinsa: well yeah. i use vim myself. although i don't know much about it other than just enough to do simple editing
[05:31] <forresthopkinsa> lol same
[05:31] <WhatIsTheMatrix> rgr
[05:31]  * lotuspsychje likes syntax highlighting in editors
[05:31] <ranger_> There, now I can see things you guys type
[05:32] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger_: cool
[05:32] <noideas> I have just added files to one of my internal hard drives, and when I tried to access them the drive was not responding normal (i think it was the way the files where named). I renamed files and restarted my file server now a get a message saying hdd busy or not present, any ideas?
[05:32] <ranger_> was trying to use chrome on android to do it, but it was bugging out, so I just pulled out my old laptop
[05:32] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger_: you could install 'nano'. it's supposed to be a pretty user-friendly terminal text editor. or i could try and walk you through using vim
[05:33] <forresthopkinsa> get a real android irc client -.-
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> noideas: can you do a tail -f /var/log/syslog and play around with your hd, see if you get any errors
[05:33] <forresthopkinsa> well no bigger screens are always better :P
[05:33] <forresthopkinsa> nevermind im blabbering
[05:34] <WhatIsTheMatrix> lol
[05:34] <hkr> AndIRC is good.
[05:34] <chverma79> hmmmm
[05:34] <forresthopkinsa> personally I use the Chrome desktopApp "CIRC"
[05:35] <ranger_> WhatIsTheMatrix: nano is already installed, and idk what vim is
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> ranger: man vim in terminal
[05:36] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger_: ok. i'm not familiar with using nano, just fyi
[05:36] <ranger_> WhatIsTheMatrix: The terminal is acting wierd, after a few seconds, it will act as if it is not the current window in focus, and stops recieving input (blinking cursor also goes empty)
[05:37] <ranger_> WhatIsTheMatrix: I think it might be a deeper problem.
[05:37] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger_: man, doesn't sound good
[05:39] <ranger_> WhatIsTheMatrix: It could be a hardware issue, due to me having a newer cpu and gpu, or somehow windows 8 might be messing with it, or possible both... or none
[05:39] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger_: maybe that laptop/chipset is just too new for gnu/linux yet. dunno
[05:40] <ranger_> WhatIsTheMatrix: mabye, but if thats the case. . . that sucks. Plus I was running just fine in virtualbox
[05:40] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger_: maybe try installing ubuntu 14.04 testing on it. hehe. i'm running it right now ;-)
[05:40] <noideas> lotuspsychje: there are no errors. I can access the drive within ubuntu server, but my nfs and samba come up blank, I just tried remounting and now seems to work. Earlier it did not :-/
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> noideas: strange
[05:41] <ranger_> WhatIsTheMatrix: What do you mean 14.04? The latest I saw on the site was 13.10
[05:41] <noideas> lotuspsychje: thanks for your time :)
[05:41] <ranger_> WhatIsTheMatrix: or was that a typo for 13.04
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> noideas: np mate
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> WhatIsTheMatrix: is that alpha you are on?
[05:43] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger_: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/daily-live/current/
[05:43] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger_: it's not really all that much new than 13.10. but it does of course, have newer kernel
[05:43] <WhatIsTheMatrix> lotuspsychje: yes.. trusty/testing... 14.04
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> WhatIsTheMatrix: nice one
[05:44] <WhatIsTheMatrix> cat /etc/issue --> Ubuntu Trusty Tahr (development branch)
[05:44] <ner0x> Is it possible for mediatomb to follow symlinks? I'm getting permission errors when attempting to add content from a second drive. Probably something to do with my fstab. Logan_ : Possible help?
[05:44] <WhatIsTheMatrix> lotuspsychje: :-)
[05:45] <live> WhatIsTheMatrix: I havehigh nopes for this next LTS
[05:45] <live> Hopes*
[05:45] <live> (although funny)
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> WhatIsTheMatrix: can you join #ubuntu+1 plz
[05:45] <WhatIsTheMatrix> live: me too. i plan on having it installed for the lifetime of the release
[05:45] <WhatIsTheMatrix> lotuspsychje: sure. i do join there at times
[05:45] <ranger_> WhatIsTheMatrix: I have always found the naming for architecture confuzing. Should I go with intel x86 or AMD64 (I have intel i7 64bit)
[05:46] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger_: AMD64
[05:47] <Logan_> ner0x: Looks like it's a known bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=677964 - Maybe try asking in #mediatomb
[05:47] <WhatIsTheMatrix> lotuspsychje: ubuntu+1 is not there atm apparently. i had the same issue a couple of days ago too. the channel wasn't there
[05:47] <Logan_> WhatIsTheMatrix: It's definitely there. I'm in it right now. :P
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> WhatIsTheMatrix: me2
[05:47] <WhatIsTheMatrix> Logan_: well, i try to join it and i get --> ubuntu+1 :No such channel
[05:47] <Logan_> #
[05:48] <WhatIsTheMatrix> maybe i'm doing something wrong
[05:48] <WhatIsTheMatrix> DOH!
[05:48] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ty
[05:48] <Logan_> :)
[05:48] <WhatIsTheMatrix> lol
[05:48] <ner0x> Logan_: Rather than have it do that I'd like to add the /media/fswitalski/backup/Videos folder itself. Problem is I get a permission denied. I'm wondering if I have to change the fstab option to make it executable, etc.
[05:49] <Logan_> ner0x: Try playing around with permissions. I'm not sure how to solve your problem specifically.
[05:49] <ranger_> WhatIsTheMatrix: Thanks for trying to help, the iso download won't be done for like half an hour
[05:50] <Logan_> ner0x: Hey, check out this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1373939
[05:50] <linuxlite> hi
[05:51] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger_: roger that. good luck. hopefully it will help with your newer hardware
[05:51] <linuxlite> anyone here knows to imposition a file like podofo do?
[05:51] <linuxlite> podofo is for pdf only how about libre office
[05:51] <ner0x> Logan_: Have to restart. Viewed that once before. I'll screen into irssi for the rest of this chat.
[05:51] <WhatIsTheMatrix> hello linuxlite
[05:52] <ranger_> WhatIsTheMatrix: Hopefully. If not, I'll also try a wubi install. Side note, how stable are you finding 14.04 to be?
[05:53] <linuxlite> WhatIsTheMatrix how can i imposition a file to print like a booklet
[05:53] <Logan_> !ubuntu+1 | ranger_
[05:55] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger_: i using kde because it had a fairly new release in testing/trusty to version 4.12.0... and the ubuntu/unity desktop seems unstable. but i also have other window mangers i could use, like IceWM, Motif, WindowMaker, etc.
[05:55] <ranger_> Ok
[05:56] <WhatIsTheMatrix> linuxlite: you'll need to ask the channel. i don't know
[05:57] <linuxlite> ok
[05:58] <GeonoTRON2000> is it a known bug in 13.10 that the cursor disappears and doesn't come back after a suspend?
[06:02] <Tex_Nick> GeonoTRON2000: suspend works fine on this box
[06:06] <GeonoTRON2000> Tex_Nick: suspend works on mine too, it just removes the cursor and I have to either log out or plug in an external mouse to get it back
[06:09] <Tex_Nick> GeonoTRON2000: ok, i'm running 13.10 & not having that issue ... only providing feedback there ... not able to provide a solution, sorrry
[06:10] <GeonoTRON2000> Tex_Nick: I know, I just want to make sure it's documented
[06:14] <YellowGT0> Hello
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> YellowGT0: welcome, what can we do for you?
[06:16] <YellowGT0> In your opinion whats the best remote desktop for Ubuntu
[06:16] <YellowGT0> I've used xrdp and ....
[06:16] <imghost> YeahRight_, i prefer rdesktop
[06:16] <YellowGT0> Hmm the name of the second one is slipping my mind right now
[06:17] <imghost> YellowGT0, i prefer rdesktop
[06:17] <YellowGT0> FreeNX is the other
[06:17] <YellowGT0> Im assuming it works at login imghost
[06:18] <YellowGT0> ?
[06:18] <YellowGT0> Or prelogin I should say
[06:18] <YellowGT0> I had an issue with teamviewer because you needed to login on site 1st
[06:19] <imghost> YellowGT0, no, just ip adrress and users name
[06:19] <YellowGT0> Maybe ill check that one out next. xrdp has given me a ton of weird issues
[06:19] <notebook> does crunchbag share the same repo as that of ubuntu?
[06:19] <tozen> hi all!! folks does updatedb.mlocate daily updates is important? and what would happened if i'll desable it using <chmod -x /etc/cron.daily/mlocate> command? thx
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> !crunchbang | notebook
[06:20] <imghost> !rdesktop | yellowGTO
[06:20] <imghost> !info rdesktop
[06:20] <notebook> thanks lotuspsychje
[06:21] <tozen> i mean does this action affects my system or not?
[06:22] <YellowGT0> oh imghost it seems rdesktop is a client. Im looking for the server. xrdp seems to be the server
[06:22] <theRoda> anyone able to offer insight on failing to successfully dual boot linux with windows 8? i have failed many installs of lubuntu & ubuntu12.04 trying to figure out this uefi business. not sure where to go
[06:23] <theRoda> when trying to install ubuntu12.04, i would get to a black grub screen, when lubuntu, i just couldn't get to a boot menu
[06:24] <imghost> YellowGT0, ok :)
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | theRoda
[06:27] <savingpvtbryan> hello
[06:27] <savingpvtbryan> is this a beginner's channel?
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> savingpvtbryan: this is an ubuntu issue channel, ask your question mate
[06:28] <imghost> theRoda, did you disable the secure boot?
[06:28] <theRoda> ty for the link lotuspsychje, i was using it my last few attempts. i feel possibly my prior failed installs are having an effect? i have run chkdsk /f as well
[06:28] <savingpvtbryan> i'm brand spanking new to ubuntu.  i'm trying to install winrar (http://rarsoft.com/download.htm) but I'm trying to figure out how to do this.  the version they have is command line only, which is fine
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> theRoda: ive been able to single boot ubuntu on an uefi machine recently, worked out of the box
[06:29] <theRoda> imghost> i did, also tried many iterations of CSM enabled/disabled px(oe)? legacy disabled/enabled
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> !info rar | savingpvtbryan
[06:29] <kanliot> savingpvtbryan, you should use ubuntu software ccenter to install it
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> savingpvtbryan: sufo apt-get install rar (from terminal)
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> sudo
[06:29] <imghost> theRoda, did you try with "nomodeset"?
[06:29] <savingpvtbryan> ahh
[06:29] <savingpvtbryan> thanks
 i have been able to create a liveusb, and test lubuntu/ ubuntu from there, but after successful instal i get sent to grub
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> savingpvtbryan: after that you will be able to rightmouse/unrar here
 i did with ubuntu12.04, that seemed to be the farthest i got i think, but after restart was sent to the black grub screen of suck
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> theRoda: loose w8 once and for good, and install ubuntu single :p
[06:31] <savingpvtbryan> lotuspsychje: works perfectly!
[06:31] <imghost> theRoda, yes because you did not save the settings permanently
[06:31] <savingpvtbryan> lotuspsychje: thanks
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> !yay | savingpvtbryan
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> savingpvtbryan: if you need more packages, come back here ok
[06:31] <savingpvtbryan> next question: how do i make something the default player for a file extension?  for example, i want to use VLC to open all .avi files
 i totally will once i'm a little more comfortable with it. still learning mechanincs in vm atm
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> ok bbl
[06:32] <imghost> theRoda, you have to make one change in /etc/default/grub
 so once i get it installed and get sent to the grub screen, i can still make it work?
[06:33] <theRoda> also, not sure what my boot order should look like once i eject liveusb
[06:33] <imghost> theRoda, yes exactly its just you are not able to start your Xsessions thats it and you do not need to worry about it
 ok what is the change to make? just type ' /etc/default/grub'?
[06:35] <imghost> theRoda, reboot and press shift key till you get in the grub menu Highlight the first entry and replace “quiet splash” with “nomodeset” .
[06:36] <duoi> Does anybody have ChromiumOS installed on their Ubuntu machine?
 i've done that, hit f6 and marked it as well, and thats when i get taken to the black screen of suck
[06:36] <imghost> theRoda, read my last post
[06:37] <Guest70407> whats the best unity configurator?
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> savingpvtbryan: rightmouse on the .avi/properties and open with vlc: set as default
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> savingpvtbryan: also look in system setting/ details (gear icon) for defaults
[06:37] <savingpvtbryan> lotuspsychje: ahh!  Thanks!  worked like a charm
[06:38] <savingpvtbryan> similar to windows but not quite the same
[06:38] <imghost> theRoda, hold down the shift key when booting starts, You will then get a console mode menu. The top option should be selected. Press 'e' to edit that line.
[06:38] <savingpvtbryan> i'm dual booting ubuntu with windows 8.  it was a pain to get this installed on a UEFI system
[06:39] <noideas> lotuspsychje: just in case you were curious I just found out my drive is now failing. Haha (drive not mounting)
[06:39] <dragonslay> Hi, I need help with replacing named dns server with dnsmasq. How do I do it? Is it better to remove bind altogether?
[06:39] <savingpvtbryan> is ubuntu supposed to be this choppy?  i feel like it's not that smooth considering i have an i7 ivy bridge processor and a geforce gtx 555
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> savingpvtbryan: loose w8 once and for good, you will be more pleased with a single ubuntu
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | noideas
[06:40] <noideas> lotuspsychje: Nice. Thanks!
[06:40] <savingpvtbryan> lotuspsychje: i would except i can't even do the most simplest of tasks on ubuntu.
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> savingpvtbryan: what do you mean?
[06:41] <savingpvtbryan> i mean i have to constantly ask for help so i can't afford to get rid of windows yet
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> savingpvtbryan: its a great learning experience
[06:42] <imghost> !manual | savingpvtbryan
[06:43] <savingpvtbryan> i tried installing geforce drivers and it prevented me from logging on to ubuntu.
[06:43] <savingpvtbryan> thanks!
[06:43] <savingpvtbryan> is there a  special trick to installing geforce drivers?  i used, "sudo apt-add-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa"
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> savingpvtbryan: check your additional drivers section first
[06:43] <savingpvtbryan> then sudo apt-get update, followed by sudo apt-get install nvidia-current nvidia-settings
[06:44] <imghost> savingpvtbryan, there are no tricks just be careful when you do switch between open source and proprietary drivers
[06:44] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: you also need bumblebee-nvidia
[06:45] <savingpvtbryan> additional drivers: "no additional drivers are available"
[06:46] <savingpvtbryan> okay, i'll try out bumblebee-nvidia
[06:46] <savingpvtbryan> hopefully it won't give me the black screen like the previous driver did
[06:46] <Gamer_90> hello
[06:48] <Gamer_90> i'm having an issue with my Mono Price USB to HDMI Adapter , i'm running xubuntu 13.10
[06:48] <duoi> Anybody have XBMC installed on Ubuntu?
[06:49] <savingpvtbryan> i'm trying to install bumblebee-nvidia and step 2 of the instructions says, "Enable the Universe and Multiverse repositories (for bumblebee and nvidia packages respectively). "  How do I do this?
[06:50] <imghost> savingpvtbryan, try to understand why are you getting the black screen try to find out what is Xsession, Xorg, Xauth, display manager etc use web search first, its not good to just copy and paste form the internet try to learn basics first :)
[06:51] <imghost> savingpvtbryan, you can enable universe and multverse under software sources,
[06:51] <savingpvtbryan> imghost: thanks.  i want to figure it out but i don't know what i don't know so when i google the symptoms all i find are solutions to the problem but i don't understand how it fixes it
[06:52] <hitsujiTMO> !anyone | duoi
[06:53] <zrh0> whats the best unity configurator?
[06:53] <duoi> hitsujiTMO, do you have XBMC installed?
[06:53] <imghost> savingpvtbryan, ok :), first make the backups so that you can revert the changes to default enjoy :)
[06:54] <WhatIsTheMatrix> !info unity-tweak-tool
[06:54] <savingpvtbryan> hehe
[06:54] <imghost> :D
[06:54] <FiremanEd> !info myunity
[06:56] <hitsujiTMO> duoi: not on ubuntu. please state your actual issue. noone's going to help you when you don't say what your actual problem is
[06:56] <duoi> hitsujiTMO, if you don't have it installed, then kindly don't bother me. Thanks.
[06:57] <hitsujiTMO> !attitude | duoi
[06:57] <imghost> duoi, for off topic discussions we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:58] <savingpvtbryan> how do i move icons on my task bar to my desktop?
[06:59] <imghost> savingpvtbryan, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[07:00] <duoi> hitsujiTMO, if you are looking for an argument, consider joining #linux and saying something along the lines of "I don't like XFCE because it's not as lightweight as Unity." You certainly find what you're looking for there.
[07:00] <imghost> !alacarte | savingpvtbryan
[07:00] <imghost> !info alacarte
[07:01] <hitsujiTMO> duoi i'm not looking for an arguement. i simply asked you to state what your issue is. good luck getting help with that attitude of yours
[07:02] <duoi> !attitude | hitsujiTMO
[07:02] <fragtastic> duoi: i've got XBMC installed
[07:03] <savingpvtbryan> imghost: thanks!
[07:03] <imghost> savingpvtbryan, :)
[07:03] <duoi> fragtastic, awesome! Have you happened to install the Netflix/Hulu plugins? I'm curious as to whether or not it is as stable as something like Pipelight.
[07:05] <fragtastic> both actually. i haven't had a problem with them.
[07:07] <duoi> fragtastic, great. Thanks for confirming that :)
[07:18] <savingpvtbryan> thanks for all the help, gotta go now
[07:18] <savingpvtbryan> i'll be back again for more help!
[07:18] <savingpvtbryan> :)
[07:21] <savingpvtbryan> i'm back - sooner than expected
[07:22] <savingpvtbryan> i installed the most current nvidia drivers and now i get a black screen (but I see my mouse cursor)
[07:22] <derpdiderp> hey guys, i have ubuntu minimal and i just installed lightdm. i want to get pantheon to work on it, however, when teh system boots, lightdm doesn't even come up. the regular ubuntu boot screen comes up, then the background turns black while the ubuntu logo is still loading. what can i do?
[07:22] <savingpvtbryan> if i hit ctrl-alt-F1, i can go into the console
[07:22] <savingpvtbryan> any ideas on how to fix this?
[07:24] <bajrang> hi
[07:25] <savingpvtbryan> hi
[07:26] <WhatIsTheMatrix> howdy
[07:26] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: can you install pastebinit and get us your xorg log. sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:27] <savingpvtbryan> hmmm it says unable to locate package pasteinit
[07:27] <savingpvtbryan> i guess i don't have the proper repository?
[07:27] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: pastebinit
[07:28] <savingpvtbryan> ahh
[07:28] <savingpvtbryan> thanks, stupid me
[07:28] <savingpvtbryan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6655609/
[07:33] <arunkumar413> hi, how to create sqlite database using libreoffice
[07:34] <amoris> Was wondering how I could password protect files on an external drive?
[07:34] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: hmm, odd. its loaded both nvidia + intel. what exact packages did you install?
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> !encrypt | amoris
[07:35] <amoris> Is that for an external directory?
[07:35] <SaberX01> arunkumar413, https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/How_Tos/Using_SQLite_With_OpenOffice.org
[07:36] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: i installed the nvidia one by typing, "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current" .  I have an alienware x51 which has an intel 4000 grahphics card built in but also comes with a gtx 555
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> amoris: you can encrypt external drives too yes
[07:36] <amoris> thank you anyway! :)
[07:36] <amoris> Oh okay great!
[07:36] <amoris> :)
[07:36] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: install bumblebee-nvidia and primus
[07:37] <savingpvtbryan> okay
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> amoris: you might wanna check software centre for encrypting apps
[07:37] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: should i uninstall this one first?
[07:37] <amoris> Indeed, I will do that thanks a bunch.
[07:37] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: noo
[07:39] <savingpvtbryan> okay
[07:41] <arunkumar413> SaberX01: that's for open office
[07:42] <SaberX01> arunkumar413, Yes, it is, but a little investing will show that it's nearly the same for Libre ..
[07:44] <tacorwin> how do I apply for a Ubuntu membership?
[07:44] <XPPRESP3> how i can move between the gnome/kde interface - tks
[07:45] <hitsujiTMO> tacorwin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership
[07:45] <SaberX01> tacorwin, there is several ways, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership    .. I was too slow ...  You can also talk wiht the guys in #ubuntu-irc about it
[07:46] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: i installed it and rebooted.  now i'm greeted with a different type of black screen and i have an "X" mouse cursor instead of the pointer.  i'll do another pastebinit
[07:46] <tacorwin> hitsujiTMO: SaberX01: thank you both for that. haha.
[07:47] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: any display on ctrl + alt + f8?
[07:47] <NictraSavios>  Hello, I was wondering, I can't seem to get a Win7 installation CD to boot, is there a way to make grub boot the CD drive? (On a laptop with secure boot and UEFI. Neither can be disabled... or else ubuntu won't boot)
[07:48] <NictraSavios> Also, whats the best format for a shared Windows/Ubuntu partition? Is it still ntfs or have ext4 drivers finally been developed for faildows?
[07:48] <ChickenBrain> NictraSavios: that is normally a BIOS setup of the computer
[07:48] <[[thufir]]> I can't get vuze to connect.  It worked fine until I re-installed the OS, so the only variable in the equation to change is the OS and software.  Using Oracle Java on 12.04 and 13.10, so it's not Java.  The network is the same.  Vuze passes the firewall test...so??  What now?   "0 users"
[07:49] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: when I hit ctrl+alt+F8, I get a blinking cursor
[07:49] <NictraSavios> ChickenBrain, Unfortunatly I've been playing in BIOS all night and there seems to be no way to make it boot a windows 7 installation CD or USB. So, I was wondering if grub could chain-load it?
[07:49] <ChickenBrain> NictraSavios: that would be the first BIOS ever in ages which would not be able to change the boot sequencel...
[07:49] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: hmm, please pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log          sounds like its not loading lightdm
[07:50] <NictraSavios> ChickenBrain, Nothing to do with boot sequence. It dosen't recognise the media as bootable. I tried with three different ISOs too.
[07:50] <savingpvtbryan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6655694/
[07:50] <hitsujiTMO> NictraSavios: have you verified the windows cd. ps this is more ##windows support not ubuntu support
[07:51] <ChickenBrain> indeed, if windows CD is not bootable I doubt that chainloading it with grub makes any difference
[07:51] <NictraSavios> hitsujiTMO, I have. md5summed. And, I'm asking how to make grub2 chainload a CD. Which is more of a grub2 question, but I figured I'd ask here since I don't know of any grub2 support chat and I doubt it would be very active.
[07:53] <NictraSavios> ChickenBrain, Three different ISOs not being bootable? I doubt it. Especially when one of them I've used in the past many many times.
[07:53] <ChickenBrain> good luck :)
[07:53] <hitsujiTMO> NictraSavios: try creating a bootable windows usb instead
[07:54] <NictraSavios> Anyway, about the actual ubuntu question, is ntfs still the standard for shared partiitions?
[07:54] <NictraSavios> hipitihop, I did, trying with the third iso currently.
[07:54] <ChickenBrain> I have problems with DHCP in a fresh ubuntu 13.10 install on wlan
[07:54] <helmut_> hi
[07:54] <ChickenBrain> works fine on eth0, doesn't work on wlan0... setting the config static makes network work perfect...
[07:54] <ChickenBrain> any hint where I can find more specific information? I searched the forums for 3 days or so
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> !dhcp | ChickenBrain
[07:55] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: lspci | pastebinit
[07:56] <ChickenBrain> lotuspsychje: thanks, but that one I knew... not very specific on DHCP failing on wlan but working on eth
[07:56] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: also: dmesg | pastebinit
[07:57] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: some very odd output from your Xorg log. its like its not an optimus system
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> ChickenBrain: bug maybe? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl/+bug/1112751
[07:58] <circle_> network manager connects to my network fine, but I have no internet access
[07:58] <savingpvtbryan> i didn't think it was an optimus system since it's a desktop
[07:58] <circle_> can't even access my default gateway
[07:58] <circle_> this is via wifi, it works fine/well with wired
[07:58] <motaka2> hello how can make ubuntu's password verification obligational
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> circle_: did you install wifi drivers?
[07:58] <junka> Do i have to open a launchpad account to report bugs?
[07:58] <savingpvtbryan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6655720/
[07:58] <savingpvtbryan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6655722/
[07:58] <circle_> lotuspsychje, yes they're all there
[07:58] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: ahh wait. thought you had 555m
[07:59] <circle_> lotuspsychje, 	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 84b6
[07:59] <circle_> 	Kernel driver in use: rtl8192ce
[07:59] <gigio> ciao
[07:59] <gigio> list!
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> !it | gigio
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> circle_: realtek has latest drivers for ubuntu on their web also, maybe try those?
[07:59] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: ok. uninstall bumblebee-nvidia primus. my bad.
[07:59] <circle_> lotuspsychje, this has nothing to do with realtek
[08:00] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: how is the monitor connected? thru motherboard or direct to gpu?
[08:00] <savingpvtbryan> direct to GPU so there's no connection with the intel 4000
[08:00] <ChickenBrain> circle_: same problem I have... workarround: set IP information static
[08:01] <NictraSavios> I'm guessing nobody knows the answer to my query about shared partition format?
[08:01] <circle_> ChickenBrain, it works fine in windows, yopu still reckon that's a good thing to do?
[08:01] <ChickenBrain> circle_: it is a workarround, not necessarily good, but it works
[08:02] <circle_> ChickenBrain, okay I'll do that, how do I do that? and why does that work?
[08:02] <ChickenBrain> I consider it to be a bug
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> !ntfs | NictraSavios
[08:02] <ChickenBrain> network settings, but you need to know your parameters
[08:02] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: uninstalled
[08:02] <ChickenBrain> IP adress, GW, DNS Server
[08:03] <ChickenBrain> lotuspsychje: yes, a bug was also my conclusion... and the only working answer I found was set IP information static
[08:03] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: can you reboot.
[08:03] <savingpvtbryan> okay
[08:04] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: 1920 x 1200 res monitor?
[08:04] <hipitihop> my TV native resolution is 1366x768 when I connect via hdmi direct all works well (apart from slight left/right border) but when I connect my machine as input to my Onkyo AV tuner, TV either claims no signal or seems to be running @ 1920x1200 Is there a way to force/limit the resolution
[08:04] <NictraSavios> lotuspsychje, I'm deciding on the format. I don't have the partion yet.
[08:04] <savingpvtbryan> yeah
[08:04] <savingpvtbryan> it's that resolution
[08:05] <ChickenBrain> lotuspsychje: and than something I don't fully get: "Seems that this bug might belong to bcmwl-kernel-source.", so I stayed out of trying that random
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> NictraSavios: can you tell us what you are trying to do exactly?
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> !b43 | ChickenBrain
[08:05] <savingpvtbryan> i rebooted, same problem.  black screen, can see mouse cursor.  the mouse cursor only move around a quarter of the screen so there's definitely a resolution problem
[08:05] <hipitihop> if I run xrandr -q claims Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 1360 x 768, maximum 8192 x 8192
[08:06] <savingpvtbryan> i meant to say same problem as before installing bumblebee
[08:06] <ChickenBrain> thanks lotuspsychje.. that does not apply to my computer, but I have the same problem as described in the bug...
[08:06] <ChickenBrain> which translates to me that the bug is somewhere else
[08:07] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: can you run: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[08:08] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: it says nvidia-xconfig command not found
[08:08] <[[thufir]]> I can't get vuze to connect.  It worked fine until I re-installed the OS, so the only variable in the equation to change is the OS and software.  Using Oracle Java on 12.04 and 13.10, so it's not Java.  The network is the same.  Vuze passes the firewall test...so??  What now?   "0 users"
[08:08] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: try installing nvidia-setting-304
[08:10] <circle_> ChickenBrain, which wireless chip do you use?
[08:11] <hitsujiTMO> !find nvidia-xconfig
[08:11] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: okay, i installed it.
[08:12] <hitsujiTMO> hmm, should be with the driver itself
[08:12] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: can you try again: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[08:12] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: still doesn't work
[08:12] <ikarosv1> hello world
[08:13] <eliudnir> hi, I have a machine I want to boot up as smoothly as possibly whenever it has power. I noticed that it does some disk check in the start sometimes and that the default value does not have a countdown.. How does one go about disabling this disk check?
[08:13] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: sudo find / -name nvidia-xconfig
[08:14] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: /usr/lib/nvidia-304/bin/nvidia-xconfig
[08:14] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: sudo /usr/lib/nvidia-304/bin/nvidia-xconfig
[08:14] <NictraSavios> lotuspsychje, Sorry, I was absent minded. What I'm doing it partioning my hard drive before installing windows 7 and Ubuntu 12.04.3. I create a shared partition where *everything* is stored that isn't an OS or a program. So all of my personal data, downloads and desktops.
[08:14] <NictraSavios> lotuspsychje, I'm wondering if this shared partition *must* be ntfs or if I can use ext4.
[08:15] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: "Unable to locate/open  X configuration file.  New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[08:15] <hitsujiTMO> NictraSavios: win 7 cannot read ext4. you should use ntfs
[08:15] <savingpvtbryan> should i pastebinit?
[08:15] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: reboot
[08:15] <savingpvtbryan> ok
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> NictraSavios: you cant install ubuntu on ntfs right
[08:15] <NictraSavios> hitsujiTMO, Not natively, I was wondering if there was any progress on drivers for it.
[08:16] <NictraSavios> lotuspsychje, Who said I was?
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> NictraSavios: ok
[08:16] <NictraSavios> lotuspsychje, The OS is on an ext4, (and windows is on an ntfs), all my data is on a seperate third partition. (Okay... 6th,... after efi, ubuntu boot and windows boot)
[08:16] <hitsujiTMO> NictraSavios: i haven't seen anything decent that won't cost you your firstborn
[08:17] <NictraSavios> hipitihop, Dang.
[08:17] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: i rebooted and saw what looked like a broken mouse cursor laid out horizontally in slices.  hit ctrl-alt-f8 and i get the blinking cursor
[08:18] <hipitihop> NictraSavios, not sure what you mean, no way to restrict ?
[08:19] <NictraSavios> hipitihop, Huh? You lost me.
[08:19] <hipitihop> NictraSavios, you said to me "Dang"
[08:19] <AlecTaylor> Installed some KDE crap by mistake. Removed it, but now my login screen is weird + has a white background. How to revert?
[08:19] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf                   ...               sudo cat /var/log/lightdm.* | pastebinit
[08:19] <NictraSavios> hitsujiTMO, Yes,  as in "Well, that sucks."
[08:21] <NictraSavios> hitsujiTMO, hitsujiTMO Whoops. I got your usernames mixed up.
[08:21] <NictraSavios> hipitihop, hitsujiTMO *
[08:21] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: woops. that last bit should be  sudo cat /var/log/lightdm/* | pastebinit
[08:22] <hipitihop> NictraSavios, np, I thought you were responding to my native resolution issue
[08:22] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6655784
[08:26] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: do you have your user on autologin?
[08:27] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: no, i don't
[08:27] <tachyons> hello
[08:27] <tachyons> any packaging experts here?
[08:27] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: thanks for all the help so far.  i'm figuring out what these commands do as you give them to me
[08:27] <NictraSavios> What solutions are available for encrypting an ext4 data partition? I know luks can do system partitions.
[08:27] <tachyons> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/161000108/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-i386.lttoolbox_3.2-1ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[08:28] <tachyons> can anyone help me to find cause of this error?
[08:28] <NictraSavios> tachyons, I used to manage a debian repo for Cydia, so I can maybe help.
[08:29] <tachyons> NictraSavios, great :-)
[08:29] <NictraSavios> tachyons, I would not consider myself an expert, but I'll definitely give it a shot.
[08:29] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: ls -l /var/log/lightdm/ | pastebinit
[08:29] <tachyons> NictraSavios, I am trying to package lttoolbox
[08:30] <tachyons> NictraSavios,  https://launchpadlibrarian.net/161000108/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-i386.lttoolbox_3.2-1ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[08:30] <savingpvtbryan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6655811
[08:31] <savingpvtbryan> i love this pastebinit.
[08:31] <tachyons> NictraSavios, https://launchpad.net/~aboobackervyd/+archive/test/+packages
[08:32] <NictraSavios> tachyons, It looks like you're missing a few library files that your package depends on.
[08:34] <tachyons> NictraSavios, But it works perfectly from my home pc
[08:34] <tachyons> using debuild
[08:35] <tachyons> NictraSavios,  these library files are to be generated during the build
[08:35] <NictraSavios> tachyons, What I think is happening is that your package depends on library files which aren't installed in the current system. Maybe you forgot to add a dep that was installed on your home system.
[08:35] <NictraSavios> tachyons, But I could be completely wrong.
[08:36] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: in grub if i choose advanced start up and pick ubuntu with linux 3.11.0-14-generic (recovery mode), I'm able to get unity to load up.  i can log on with no issues when i do that.
[08:36] <pieroooooooooooo> salve
[08:36] <tachyons> afaik I added all dependencies
[08:36] <pieroooooooooooo> !list
[08:36] <tachyons> I think that is why there is no build errors
[08:38] <NictraSavios> tachyons, Hmm, Well, I can't see anything else. Try asking in the debian irc (I think its on a different network). Most of my work was on the Jailbroken iPhone appstore known as Cydia, so I never had to deal with many complex dependencies.
[08:40] <AlecTaylor> Installed some KDE crap by mistake. Removed it, but now my login screen is weird + has a white background. How to revert?
[08:40] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log             would be interesting to see what driver it has loaded
[08:40] <thom__> AlecTaylor: re-install
[08:40] <tachyons> AlecTaylor, rm ~.kde
[08:41] <AlecTaylor> ls .kde
[08:41] <AlecTaylor> cache-ubuntu-x64  share  socket-ubuntu-x64  tmp-ubuntu-x64
[08:41] <tachyons> AlecTaylor, rm ~/.kde
[08:41] <tachyons> AlecTaylor, rm ~/.kde4
[08:41] <AlecTaylor> Really?
[08:42] <tachyons> AlecTaylor, it will reset your kde configaration
[08:42] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6655845
[08:42] <awktion> thom__: one should almost never need to reinstall
[08:43] <awktion> if one can boot, one should be able to recover
[08:43] <awktion> and its far better to learn to fix what's broken
[08:43] <DaleK5whr> <<< agrees with awktion
[08:44] <awktion> so removing ~/.kde* removes the preset configs
[08:44] <awktion> this would be helpful if all the right packages are in, but a config went wrong that you set in your user
[08:44] <awktion> if packages are missing, bad versions, or w/e you might still see issues
[08:45] <tachyons> then dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[08:45] <awktion> in general, there's no difference between mv a file/folder and rm'ing it to the system
[08:45] <awktion> so i would recommend to mv .kde -> .kde.bak for instance
[08:45] <awktion> its just not where it's looking ;)
[08:45] <tachyons> awktion, +1
[08:45] <awktion> then make sure the right desktop-package is in
[08:45] <awktion> kde should be addressed in #kubuntu
[08:45] <awktion> but!
[08:46] <awktion> kubuntu-desktop is the metapackage you want
[08:46] <awktion> THEN do some reconfiguring
[08:46] <ouyes> Is it possible to disable the intel intergeted VGA card hd4000?
[08:46] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: ahh its using vesa. I can't see any actuall issue except the fact that the nvidia driver just doesn't want to work. this is a bit of a strange issue. it does appear that its working, just not rendering to your xsession. Maybe try a different driver: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-304 && sudo apt-get install nvidia-319
[08:46] <hitsujiTMO> ouyes: desktop or laptop?
[08:46] <awktion> anyway, that's a general process i would go through.
[08:47] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: thanks so much for your help
[08:47] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: you're the best
[08:47] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: i really do appreciate taking the time to help out
[08:47] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: lol, no problems at all
[08:50] <awktion> savingpvtbryan: do us all a favor
[08:50] <awktion> if you see someone with an issue you can solve, solve it
[08:50] <awktion> ;)
[08:50] <awktion> the real power of ubuntu is not just the software
[08:50] <savingpvtbryan> hehehe will do :)
[08:50] <awktion> :)
[08:51] <savingpvtbryan> it's going to be a long time before i get to that point but i'll always keep it in mind :)
[08:51] <ouyes> hipitihop, laptop, asus n56vz
[08:52] <ouyes> hipitihop, intel i5-3210m and GT 650M
[08:52] <hitsujiTMO> ouyes: no, you must use the intel gpu
[08:53] <motaka2> can any one tell me how I can put a password for my ubuntu, it already has one but during login to desktop it doesnt ask me
[08:54] <ouyes> hipitihop, but I have a vga card, when you play movies, use the nvidia card will get better picture.
[08:54] <hitsujiTMO> motaka2: did you set the account to autologin?
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> how can i measure whats happening the time from login window to desktop?
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> im tweaking ssd
[08:56] <hitsujiTMO> ouyes: the intel hd 4000 is more than capable of fhd video playback.
[08:56] <phenex> hitsujiTMO: was it you who tried to help me with my apu problem????
[08:56] <hitsujiTMO> phenex: i think so
[08:57] <[[thufir]]> how do I take a screenshot that includes the mouse?
[08:57] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: lightdm logs maybe?
[08:57] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: lemme check tnx
[08:57] <phenex> yeah installed bumblebee and got my system messed up install ubuntu 13.10 fersh and blacklisted i915 instead of video now it seems to work thanks a lot
[08:58] <hitsujiTMO> phenex: sweet
[08:59] <ouyes> hitsujiTMO, but if I want to play games?
[08:59] <hitsujiTMO> ouyes: nvidia-prime
[08:59] <phenex> hitsujiTMO: I'll try out a little more. I often thinked that problem is solved but now it looks pretty good
[09:00] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: nvidia-310 worked for me!  319 & 331 both wouldn't work but 310 did.  once again, thanks for all your help
[09:00] <hitsujiTMO> ouyes: your nvidia card is purely a secondary card and is not directly connected to any screens. you use it on call.
[09:01] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: sweet. kinda odd but glad one of the drivers is working
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: not sure howto debug this, wanna take a look at it?
[09:01] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: pastebin away
[09:03] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6655927/ im getting bit slow desktop loading
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: well slow under 1min lol
[09:10] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: difficult one alright. can you pastebin your Xorg.0.log
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: sure holdon
[09:12] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6655962/
[09:13] <vbgunz> can anyone help me figure out why pulseaudio does not start with the system anymore?
[09:14] <lotuspsychje> !sound | vbgunz
[09:14] <vbgunz> I have to manually put pulseaudio -D in a startup file
[09:15] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: your xserver is taking quite a bit of time to load up. try switching drivers temporarily.
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: ok the other driver got me disformed image, but lemme test just for speed
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[09:16] <lotuspsychje> lemme switch and reboot
[09:17] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: might aswell pastebinit Xorg.0.log with other driver
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> ok
 you sir are a gentleman and a scholar. your version of nomodeset is win. i have one last question though if i may.. when in the ubuntu boot list, if i try selecting w8 loader or w8 recovery loader, i get the error 'unknown command "drive map" invalid EFI filepath' and i am only able to get back to w8 from changing boot order. any thoughts?
[09:18] <nashant> Anyone else have an issue with chrome/chromium where the cursor doesn't work properly? I.e. doesn't change to pointer when over a link, doesn't change to typing cursor when over a text box, etc? And do you kno how to fix it?
[09:23] <theRoda> imghost: i am now aware that error is due to bad boot location from previous install attempts. attempting to edit now with sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi.old /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: a bit faster now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6656006/
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: no screen disformings yet
[09:25] <hitsujiTMO> loyi
[09:25] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: thats stilll really slow tho. can you try with radeondriver?
[09:25] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: like my xorg loads in 0.5s
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: packagename?
[09:26] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: disable fglrx and radeondriver should load
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> lets see
[09:27] <Pavelcz> In Unity or Ubuntu at all, is there a way to achieve that "pressing LCtrl +LAlt = pressing RAlt" ?
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: so disable both fglrx experimental and post-release right?
[09:33] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: yup
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> ok cross your fingerz reboot
[09:33] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: may need to disable you xorg.conf too
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: how do i do that?
[09:34] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> ok reboot holdon
[09:37] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: can you again pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> yes
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6656055/
[09:39] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: huge improvement. until it comes to moniyor detection
[09:39] <hitsujiTMO> monitor*
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: what should i do from here, boot process was very fast
[09:40] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: was that a noticable improvement for you?
[09:40] <osbin> good morning lads :)
[09:41] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: can you pastebin the lightdm log again?
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: yes, the login to desktop was faster
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: sure
[09:41] <osbin> how to uinsttall a standart interface from ubuntu?
[09:42] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: seems the issue is the proprietary driver then. So you've a choice of sticking with radeon or going back to fglrx
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6656080/
[09:42] <aeon-ltd> osbin: talking about unity?
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: seems your trick is fastest way for me..ill stick to this
 probably yes :)
[09:43] <aeon-ltd> osbin: do you have another desktop environment installed?
[09:44] <theRoda> imghost: scratch the Q n invalid EFI file path. boot-repair ftw
[09:44] <imghost> theRoda, sorry for late reply office work mate will pm you
 yes using kde and gnome
 no problems at all, tyvm for all the help
[09:44] <aeon-ltd> osbin: ok, are you currently in that session now?
 KDE at mom :)
[09:45] <hussain> hi is any one here to help me how to install java jdk on linux??
[09:46] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: lightdm still seems quite slow. maybe checkout xmir. i'm using that and my lightdm completes in 2s compared to your 8s
[09:46] <aeon-ltd> osbin: i'm  googling now for a meta-package, which would contain names of all unity related packages to rmove
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: can mir load on 12.04?
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> !mir > lotuspsychje
[09:47] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: ahh 12.04... not sure on that
 okay mate im not english :) so for me hard to find some stuff like that :)
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: ive got a few tweaks on lightdm aswell, disabled guest and not showing usernames
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: think that can slowup?
[09:48] <aeon-ltd> osbin: here is a list and some important information http://askubuntu.com/questions/292394/how-to-completely-remove-unity-and-replace-it-with-cinnamon
[09:48] <aeon-ltd> osbin: the command should be 'sudo apt-get autoremove --purge unity unity-common unity-services unity-lens-* unity-scope-* unity-webapps-* gnome-control-center-unity hud libunity-core-6* libunity-misc4 libunity-webapps* appmenu-gtk appmenu-gtk3 appmenu-qt* overlay-scrollbar* activity-log-manager-control-center firefox-globalmenu thunderbird-globalmenu libufe-xidgetter0 xul-ext-unity xul-ext-webaccounts webaccounts-extension-common xul-ext-websites-integrat
[09:49] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: i doubt it.
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: ok, ill stick to this layout tnx alot for the help mate!
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: final reboot :p
[09:49] <aeon-ltd> osbin: though if you've got a large hdd and no caps on your internet(for updates), keeping it might be handy
[09:49] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: seems more the greeter is where your issue is to be exact
 thanx mate
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> brb
[09:50] <hussain> how to install open jadk7 in linux.
[09:50] <aeon-ltd> !openjdk
[09:50] <hussain> yes
[09:50] <aeon-ltd> hussain: http://openjdk.java.net/install/
[09:50] <hussain> through terminal??
[09:51] <hussain> aeon: through terminal?
[09:51] <hitsujiTMO> hussain: sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk            for jdk,     or: sudo openjdk-7-jre for jre
[09:51] <such_coins> I'm on Xubuntu on my dell XPS and the trackpad just doesn't work at all. Can anyone help me?
[09:51] <hitsujiTMO> such_coins: did it ever work?
[09:51] <aeon-ltd> hussain: yeah
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: so how can i speed up the greeter?
[09:52] <such_coins> hitsujiTMO, it did when I was using windows 8 (pre-installed), but not since I got xubuntu
[09:52] <hussain> hisujiTMO: thanks 4 helping me.
[09:52] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: that i'm not sure of. i haven't played around with that before
[09:53] <[[thufir]]> I can't get vuze to connect.  It worked fine until I re-installed the OS, so the only variable in the equation to change is the OS and software.  Using Oracle Java on 12.04 and 13.10, so it's not Java.  The network is the same.  Vuze passes the firewall test...so??  What now?   "0 users"  Also, I don't have any plugins available.
[09:53] <hussain> ok i am trying
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: ok tnx lemme search that, ill let you know
[09:54] <hitsujiTMO> such_coins: my first instinct is to check fn + f9     or whatever acpi key you have that disables/enables touchpad
[09:55] <such_coins> fn + f9 did nothing, I'm not sure how to toggle touchpad
[09:55] <nashant> Anyone else have an issue with chrome/chromium where the cursor doesn't work properly? I.e. doesn't change to pointer when over a link, doesn't change to typing cursor when over a text box, etc? And do you kno how to fix it?
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/945450 related you think?
[09:58] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: maybe this https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-greeter/+bug/1005642
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> lets see
[09:59] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: altho both seem to be more responsiveness than load times
[10:00] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: try another greeter theme maybe.
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: ok
[10:02] <hitsujiTMO> such_coins: can you pasbin output of: lsusb && lsusb -t
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: im also using ubuntu-tweak to change the login wallpaper and such
[10:04] <such_coins> hitsujiTMO, PM sent
[10:06] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: i still don't think that should massively effect the loading times tho. unless ubuntu-tweak does some crazy ass config
[10:06] <hitsujiTMO> such_coins: lsusb -t        too please
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: ill test it all out tnx for brainstorming
[10:06] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: np
[10:09] <hitsujiTMO> such_coins: seems driver is loaded ok. whats the exact model of laptop?
[10:09] <such_coins> hitsujiTMO, dell xps 12
[10:10] <hitsujiTMO> such_coins: can you give me the exact model tho.
[10:11] <osbin> how to check kernel version installed?
[10:11] <brontosaurusrex> osbin, uname -a ?
 about kernel nothing :)
[10:13] <such_coins> hitsujiTMO, A05
 3.8.0-34-generic thanx mate
[10:15] <cristian_c> Hi
[10:15] <hitsujiTMO> such_coins: thats your bios version. the model should be underneath the laptop. failing that the service tag would do
[10:15] <cristian_c> I've purchased a serial to usb adapter
[10:15] <brontosaurusrex> osbin, no generic problem
[10:15] <cristian_c> I've tried it with a serial mouse, for example
[10:15] <such_coins> hitsujiTMO, underneath just says intel xps windows 8
[10:15] <hitsujiTMO> such_coins: is there a service tag at all?
[10:16] <cristian_c> I've tried the mdetect command and the terminal has returned intellimouse
[10:16] <such_coins> hitsujiTMO, where would that be
[10:16] <hitsujiTMO> such_coins: should be there somewhere. they're on every dell product
[10:16] <cristian_c> then, I've set intellimouse protocol with the inputattach command
[10:16] <such_coins> hitsujiTMO, all I can seee is Dell XPS 12
[10:17] <cristian_c> I've found a new input device in xinput list but I don't know how to enable it
[10:17] <hitsujiTMO> such_coins: hmm. ok. can you by anychance take a pic of your keyboard then?
[10:17] <such_coins> hitsujiTMO, sorry I'm not in a position to do that
[10:18] <such_coins> there are two stickers on the keyboard side of my laptop
[10:18] <such_coins> one says "intel inside core i7"
[10:18] <such_coins> the other says "dell xps 12 ultrabook"
[10:18] <cristian_c> I've noticed a strange thing, also: if I disconnect the mouse, I see the new device in xinput list yet :O
[10:19] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[10:19] <cristian_c> :)
[10:19] <hitsujiTMO> such_coins: i just need a way of looking up your exact model so i can see what function keys are available and where they exactly are. thery unfortunately change from model to model
[10:20] <win5hit> hi there! I just stumbled accross mtop, a mysql monitoring tool. I thought it would be nice, but it's not in the repo... can someone recommend a similar tool? Any experience on this one so far?
[10:20] <such_coins> hitsujiTMO, sorry I'm not sure what to do.. I bought this laptop about 1 year ago
[10:22] <hitsujiTMO> such_coins: ok. on the bottom is there a bay you can open in the center of the base?
[10:22] <such_coins> hitsujiTMO, looks like it
[10:23] <hitsujiTMO> such_coins: the service tag may be inside there
[10:23] <such_coins> hitsujiTMO, it doesn't seem to open up easily and i don't want to force it...
[10:24] <hitsujiTMO> such_coins: it should open from the battery side
[10:25] <hitsujiTMO> such_coins: should not require forcing either
[10:25] <such_coins> hitsujiTMO, it's pretty late here. I really appreciate the help but I should get to bed now
[10:25] <such_coins> hitsujiTMO, i'll message you when i see you next
[10:25] <such_coins> hitsujiTMO, thanks
[10:26] <hitsujiTMO> such_coins: np
[10:26] <Zah_> Hello folks
[10:27] <hussain> hi..
[10:27] <hussain> hello.
[10:27] <Zah_> Anyone know how to use switch to a different input method in a terminal (tty or pty ) beside Gnome Terminal?
[10:28] <Zah_> Or at the very least, where I could find more information on how to accomplish this?
[10:28] <win5hit> anyone nows a good replacement for mtop?
[10:30] <win5hit> sed -i 's/nows/knows/g' $lastmsg
[10:30] <dn4> man I don't get why
[10:30]  * dn4 just quotes
[10:30] <hitsujiTMO> win5hit: mytop
[10:31] <win5hit> hitsujiTMO: thank you sir!
[10:44] <FireStorms> Hello, I'm trying to launch Netbeans by click the icon but it's not launching... I've click it like 5 times. What could be the problem?
[10:45] <FireStorms> Also I've checked gnome-system-monitor and the process is not started
[10:46] <bekks> FireStorms: Rightclick on the icon and see which application should be started, then start that application from a terminal to see whats happening
[10:49] <FireStorms> bekks, The icon command is "/bin/sh "/home/michael/netbeans-7.2.1/bin/netbeans"" I run this in the terminal and nothing gets returned
[10:49] <bekks> then try to run /home/michael/netbeans-7.2.1/bin/netbeans
[10:50] <FireStorms> bekks, michael@michael-laptop:~/netbeans-7.2.1/bin$ ./netbeans
[10:50] <FireStorms> still nothing :/
[10:51] <bekks> FireStorms: whats "nothing"? Any output?
[10:51] <FireStorms> It's never done this before
[10:51] <FireStorms> bekks, yes, no output, nothing gets returned by terminal
[10:52] <bekks> FireStorms: whats the output of "file /home/michael/netbeans-7.2.1/bin/netbeans"?
[10:53] <FireStorms> bekks, /home/michael/netbeans-7.2.1/bin/netbeans: POSIX shell script, ASCII text executable
[10:54] <FireStorms> maybe it's a java program, I think netbeans is written in java
[10:54] <bekks> FireStorms: "POSIX shell script".
[10:55] <hipitihop> ouyes, sorry missed your msgs earlier, were you responding to me or a question
[10:56] <tim__> hi, i have a strange issue with ubuntu. my mouse focus isnt working well. i just installed ubuntu (nothing more) have a 7970 ati. the window focus and the mouse focus doesnt work. if i logout and relogin everything is fine. i also tryed to install the amd drivers and using awesome-wm instead of unity. same issue ...
[10:57] <FireStorms> bekks, haha it was java i killed the process and now netbeans has launched
[10:57] <FireStorms> thanks for your help!
[10:58] <tim__> ah, ists ubuntu 13.10
[11:01] <motaka2> hello how to stop ubuntu autologin
[11:02] <gordonjcp> motaka2: have you tried typing that phrase into Google?
[11:02] <cebor> is it possible to change my username with usermod via ssh?
[11:02] <thom_r> motaka2: system settings, user accounts, change it there
[11:02] <hipitihop> motaka2, go to user accounts, and each user has uto login option
[11:02] <motaka2> gordonjcp: yes but mostely show the ways to make it autologin
[11:03] <bekks> cebor: you can do so, but you will have to relogin.
[11:03] <tim__> ubuntu is quite useless if the mouse and windowfocus doesnt work :(
[11:03] <gordonjcp> motaka2: the very first hit is "How to disable automatic login"
[11:04] <gordonjcp> tim__: it works for everyone else
[11:04] <bekks> tim__: It works perfectly as a headless server.
[11:04] <gordonjcp> tim__: how about being a little more specific about your problem?
[11:04] <cebor> bekks: ok how ? i always get error that a process uses my login name, and i get disonnected when i kill the ssh connection
[11:04] <bekks> cebor: thats the caveat. you have to use another user who has sudo privileges.
[11:05] <computa_mike> Hi - Hope everyone had a good christmas or holidays - I have a keyboard problem...  My keyboard stubbornly refuses to believe that its a UK keyboard.  I bought a new keyboard just before christmas and it thinks its american.  I've checked the settings...  - I'm running ubuntu 13.04, and it's a logitech wireless keyboard.
[11:05] <tim__> bekks, i just installed ubuntu tihout any other software, using a amd ati 7970 and wired mouse, keyboards. i also googled a lot. what information is interesting?
[11:05] <motaka2> done thx everybody
[11:05] <gordonjcp> tim__: what sort of "doesn't work"?
[11:06] <bekks> tim__: the actual error messages you get.
[11:06] <gordonjcp> tim__: if it's not working maybe you should hide the TV remote and take the mouse's cannabis away, make the idle sod go and get a job
[11:06] <motaka2> how can I update the kernel. When ubunti is loading in grub list I have to always go to previous linux versions and choose an old version to resume , what should I do for that ?
[11:07] <bekks> motaka2: why do you have to do that?
[11:07] <bekks> motaka2: why cant you reboot and select a newer kernel?
[11:07] <thom_r> motaka2: I have never seen that
[11:07] <motaka2> cause if I choose the one in the main boot page, it goes to a black page and never comes out of it
[11:07] <tim__> gordonjcp, not sure, the wrong window has the focus, but i cant move windows around. sometimes i get the focus using alt tab, sometimes not. in firefox some shortcuts are working well, for example to get a new tab,
[11:07] <bekks> !nomodeset | motaka2
[11:08] <motaka2> bekks: I have tried that and it didnt fix
[11:08] <tim__> gordonjcp, bekks , the interesting thing is, it disappears after relogin.
[11:08] <nictrasavios> Alright... so. I have a PC that came pre-loaded with windows 8. It boots the ubuntu CD fine, until I disable secure boot.
[11:08] <nictrasavios> Then it loads, and hangs on boot.
[11:09] <aLeSD> hi all
[11:09] <YOURBESTFRIEND> HI
[11:10] <aLeSD> how could I add an entry in the unity menu? I have installed eclipse in my ~/local/opt ..
[11:11] <nictrasavios> aLeSD, make a .desktop file for eclipse.
[11:11] <nictrasavios> aLeSD, And put it in /usr/share/applications.
[11:12] <nictrasavios> aLeSD, Link: http://embeddedprogrammer.blogspot.ca/2012/10/ubuntu-how-to-add-eclipse-to-unity.html
[11:13] <aLeSD> thanks
[11:14] <nictrasavios> So... nobody has any idea why ubuntu wont boot when secure boot is off?
[11:14] <motaka2> So can anyone help me?
[11:15] <nictrasavios> motaka2, Looks like were stuck.
[11:16] <motaka2> nictrasavios: How can I update grub?
[11:16] <nictrasavios> motaka2, sudo update-grub ?
[11:17] <motaka2> nictrasavios: maybe it is al about broken packages
[11:22] <computa_mike> never mind - I'm not sure what I did - I started clicking on random entries in the keyboard layout settings and it currently seems to be working.
[11:22] <tim__> gordonjcp, bekks , thinks this is the issue .... http://askubuntu.com/questions/148448/cyborg-rat-3-mouse-requires-relog   . lol
[11:24] <kiwitinker> how do i find the ip address that ubuntu is using on my lan?
[11:24] <bekks> tim__: Then use a sane mouse until a solution is found :)
[11:24] <bekks> kiwitinker: "ifconfig"
[11:24] <hitsujiTMO> kiwitinker: ifconfig
[11:25] <tim__> bekks, there is a solutin.
[11:25] <constl> Hello, I have a laptop which I want to use in clamshell style running 13.10 but for some reason the screen never turns off even when over the timeout specified. Any hints on how to resolve this?
[11:25] <bekks> tim__: Does the solution work for you?
[11:25] <kiwitinker> thanks
[11:26] <tim__> bekks, i try
[11:26] <bekks> cebor: Whats "clamshell style"?
[11:26] <Esor> Hi. What does do %f variable?
[11:26] <Esor> m64py %f
[11:26] <bekks> !find m64py
[11:27] <constl> bekks: laptop running while lid is closed
[11:27] <bekks> Esor: Well, the best way to find out is the documentation of m64py
[11:27] <hitsujiTMO> constl: what version of ubuntu?
[11:27] <hitsujiTMO> constl: ahh 13.10
[11:28] <constl> hitsujiTMO: 13.10, it was running fine on 12.04
[11:28] <Esor> i tried -h and its not explained there
[11:28] <bekks> Esor: Whatever m64py is - I bet they ship a documentation as well.
[11:29] <hitsujiTMO> constl: under system settings -> Power what do you have set for close lid event?
[11:29] <constl> hitsujiTMO: probably some bug since if i close the lid the screen remains open and when i re-open the lid it goes for a moment black and opens again and reports an error
[11:29] <Esor> http://m64py.sourceforge.net/
[11:29] <tim_> lol, ubuntu stucks with my 3 years old cabled usb mouse :P i thought it was the xserver :P
[11:30] <constl> hitsujiTMO: It's on "Do nothing" since the other option is suspend!
[11:31] <hitsujiTMO> constl: and you want it to just turn off the screen right?
[11:31] <constl> hitsujiTMO: It's the "Brightness & Lock" system settings which seems doesn't work for "Turn screen off when inactive for x minutes"
[11:32] <constl> hitsujiTMO: That's right hitsujiTMO. I'm remote controlling the laptop so i dont want the monitor on
[11:33] <hitsujiTMO> constl: that doesn't fire when lid is closed afaik. Was chatting with someone about a similar issue like 4 months ago. He had to write an acpid script to turn off the screen on lid close and turn of the screen on lid open
[11:33] <[[thufir]]> how do I install this:  http://sourceforge.net/projects/aztsearch/   to vuze 5.2.0.0?  I had to install vuze directly from vuze.com so it's not using apt-get.
[11:33] <constl> hitsujiTMO: It doesn't fire even with lid open. If it did i would just turn off the lid myself after the monitor was turned off and i would be happy :-)
[11:35] <hitsujiTMO> constl: oooh ... ok. do you have an acpi key on your keyboard to enable/disable the screen?
[11:35] <constl> hitsujiTMO: Is it possible that the system doesn't register "being inactive" since i'm remote controlling it through ssh ?
[11:35] <motaka2> Can anyone help me?
[11:35] <dane> anyone know how to solve this error?
[11:35] <dane> Server's Role (logon server) conflicts with share-level security
[11:36] <hitsujiTMO> constl: don't think so. that should be dependant on xserver input not on system activity
[11:36] <written_direcon> hi
[11:37] <written_direcon> (ubuntu 13.10), when i run menuconfig i have problems with the line drawing characters. they are not correctly displayed and so unreadable.
[11:37] <hitsujiTMO> dane: you've a misconfigured smb.conf
[11:37] <written_direcon> how can i fix this?
[11:37] <[[thufir]]> besides vuze, what do Linux users run?   vuze seems to change its appearance.
[11:38] <hitsujiTMO> [[thufir]]: for bt? transmission
[11:38] <[[thufir]]> hitsujiTMO: oh, I meant for file sharing.  (no amazon mp3's in canada)
[11:39] <constl> hitsujiTMO: it has the standard function keys on almost all laptops. Dont think it has a "sleep monitor" button
[11:39] <dane> hitsujiTMO, yeah, can i put it in paste so you can see what's wrong? i'm not sure what's wrong with it.
[11:39] <bekks> [[thufir]]: samba, nfs, http, ftp, torrent, etc.
[11:39] <hitsujiTMO> [[thufir]]: yes, transmission is the standard bittorrent client these days
[11:39] <hitsujiTMO> [[thufir]]: that or use newsgroups
[11:40] <[[thufir]]> hmm.
[11:40] <hitsujiTMO> constl: normally i'd expect a brightness up, brightness down, monitor off set of acpi keys for the monitor
[11:41] <hitsujiTMO> dane: pastebin it and we'll have a look
[11:41] <cristian_c> Another question
[11:41] <constl> hitsujiTMO: Yeap, these exist
[11:41] <hitsujiTMO> constl: does the disable monitor button work?
[11:42] <dane> hitsujiTMO,  http://pastebin.com/TCAXm4bJ
[11:42] <cristian_c> I've placed a script in /etc/pm/sleep.d/
[11:42] <written_direcon> damn, line drawing characters in menuconfig :-(
[11:43] <cristian_c> This script runs another script
[11:43] <constl> hitsujiTMO: There is only brightness down/up, auto brightness and switch to external monitor
[11:43] <cristian_c> an .sh, script
[11:43] <cristian_c> -,
[11:44] <constl> hitsujiTMO: Could it be that ubuntu 13.10 ACPI events shipped are not complete ?
[11:44] <hitsujiTMO> dane: afiak domain logons = yes    and     security = user   are mutually exclusive
[11:44] <hitsujiTMO> constl: most likely changes to the driver is the cause
[11:45] <cristian_c> but when I suspend the system, I get errors in pm-suspend.log
[11:45] <dane> hitsujiTMO, so what should be done? i was trying to configure samba so it wouldn't ask for passwords when i access windows 7 shares.
[11:46] <cristian_c> in the .sh script there is a synclient command
[11:46] <constl> hitsujiTMO: Thanks for your help. Seems I'm better of re-installing 12.04 which seems more compatible with my old laptop.
[11:46] <hitsujiTMO> dane: are you running on a domain?
[11:47] <dane> hitsujiTMO, domain, as in DNS?
[11:47] <cristian_c> Looking for in the web with google, I've found a page
[11:47] <hitsujiTMO> dane: from that answer i can see that you're not. set domain logons = no
[11:48] <hitsujiTMO> constl: are you purely using it from ssh?
[11:49] <cristian_c> in this page is written: 'Applying those two solutions together yielded a working result: 1. sleeping for two seconds (the script is already processed in the background, so the resume won't take longer!) 2. running sh -c 'export -p' > env on a normal terminal and sourcing that env file before the call to synclient'
[11:49] <ouyes> hitsujiTMO, I will increase the RAM shared by igpu
[11:49] <constl> hitsujiTMO: Mostly yes, if it takes too long to do something from command i will then switch to desktop since i'm quite a novice in linux
[11:50] <dane> hitsujiTMO, done. it now only says WARNING: The security=share option is deprecated
[11:50] <dane> also restarted samba alreadfy
[11:50] <hitsujiTMO> dane: sounds like you simply want to disable anonymous access to the samba.          dane leave it as security=user
[11:53] <cristian_c> How can I apply these methods?
[11:53] <constl> hitsujiTMO: Well you won't believe it but it was a bug of gnome. After logging out and logging back with Unity the screen turned off just fine
[11:54] <cristian_c> What changes have I to do exactly?
[11:54] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[11:54] <hitsujiTMO> dane: see the comments in the pastebin from line 268 on if you're using home shares
[11:54] <hitsujiTMO> constl: interesting, considering that unity sits on top of gnome so the bug should exist in both
[11:54] <dane> hitsujiTMO, it is in security user, and what i want to do is to simply access windows shares without the file manager asking for passwords like in windows.
[11:55] <constl> hitsujiTMO: Unity isn't a software on its own? Though that it was independent of Gnome
[11:55] <hitsujiTMO> dane: ahh so you want complete anonymous access. ok.
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> dane  sounds like you want to make access as insecure as in windows
[11:56] <hitsujiTMO> constl: unity is a compiz plugin that sits on top of gnome
[11:58] <dane> MonkeyDust, well, the network is password protected, so i don't see any reason for extra precautions. this computer is for my nephew, used simply for accessing his movies from the other windows computers at home.
[11:58] <dane> kid's 6, by the way.
[11:58] <dane> hitsujiTMO, if that's what it's called in linux, yes.
[11:59] <constl> hitsujiTMO: Interstingly enogh as you said the monitor doesn't turn off in Gnome but does work in Unity
[11:59] <hitsujiTMO> dane add both "guest ok = yes" and "guest only = yes" anmd supply it with a guest account such as "guest account = nobody"
[12:01] <dane> hitsujiTMO, added all three lines and restarted samba. still says "failed to mount windows share"
[12:02] <x_phoenix> ^
[12:04] <dane> hitsujiTMO,  also, only public documents can be accessed from ubuntu, shared drives and folders get the error. said drives/folderes can be accessed as a share from my windows 7 laptop.
[12:04] <hitsujiTMO> dane ok, try switching the global security = user to security = share
[12:07] <dane> hitsujiTMO, done an restarted samba.
[12:07] <dane> hitsujiTMO, still doesn't work though.
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> dane  if you don't make, then you know how well secured linux is
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> make it*
[12:08] <hitsujiTMO> MonkeyDust: :)
[12:09] <dane> MonkeyDust, i'm not so sure what you're trying to say here.
[12:11] <hitsujiTMO> dane: can you pastebin your current smb.conf
[12:12] <hitsujiTMO> dane also, which share are you configuring?
[12:13] <dane> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/xw4XJ9Wv
[12:13] <dane> also, what do you mean which? does smb conf not cover configuring how you share in the network?
[12:16] <hitsujiTMO> dane. ahh ok. you were not putting the options in a share. the default config lists a number of example shares. looks like you need to read the manual.
[12:16] <GeorgeJ_> Hello folks!
[12:16] <the_drow> Hi I just typed sudo fuser -cuk /var/lib/dpkg/lock; sudo rm -f /var/lib/dpkg/lock and my screen went dark
[12:16] <cfhowlett> GeorgeJ_, greetings
[12:17] <GeorgeJ_> How can I add a user such that one can login from lightdm?
[12:17] <the_drow> I had a lock because apt-get upgrade was running and I had to cancel it
[12:17] <dane> hitsujiTMO, is man samba the right one or there's another?
[12:18] <hitsujiTMO> dane: http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/Samba3-HOWTO.pdf
[12:19] <dane> hitsujiTMO, thanks. i'll look into it.
[12:19] <hitsujiTMO> dane: as you can guess from the size of that book, samba is quite a complex server
[12:20] <hitsujiTMO> dane: but a lot of it you can skip over, ( domain stuff, cups/printers, netbios/windbind stuff)
[12:21] <dane> hitsujiTMO, yeah, indeed. though one would think there are "presets" for it like most other software, like say FFMPEG.
[12:22] <hitsujiTMO> dane: unfortunately there are but are all secure. you require an insecure config
[12:24] <dane> hitsujiTMO, okay, though i need a little explanation as to why it's insecure. how does password protecting accessing shares make it more secure when those very same shares don't have any password protection in the first place? that is, accessing the same shares from another windows computer doesn't prompt for a password.
[12:28] <shunya_chakra> Hi what are the tools build essential install?
[12:29] <hitsujiTMO> dane: the default windows share model is insecure itself. granting anyone read/write access to any part of your filesystem without authentication is a bad idea. ofcourse in a simple home environment its mostly unecessary, but, for instance, with s laptop, id you acyivate a share for when you're at home, you can potentially leave that shate open for anyone to access if you're in another location
[12:29] <hitsujiTMO> shunya_chakra: build-essential ?
[12:30] <hitsujiTMO> shunya_chakra: or do you means what does that package install?
[12:31] <MonkeyDust> shunya_chakra  is this useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[12:31] <shunya_chakra> hitsujiTMO, I mean sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:31] <shunya_chakra> I was reading on ubuntu form  they said best way to install all the basic development tools is use this command.
[12:32] <hitsujiTMO> shunya_chakra: if you want to know what that package exactly installs look at: apt-cache show build-essential | grep Depends
[12:32] <dane> hitsujiTMO, i see. so that's what you meant. still don't see how password protection in a "client" computer helps make the "server" computer more secure. unless you mean configuring samba from linux also modifies the windows share?
[12:33] <hitsujiTMO> dane: wait... have you installed samba on the client?
[12:33] <dane> aand, the pdf's finished downloading.
[12:33] <shunya_chakra> thanks MonkeyDust for link
[12:33] <shunya_chakra> thanks hitsujiTMO I'll definatly check it
[12:33] <dane> hitsujiTMO, no. as said, they're windows 7 machines. is it necessary?
[12:34] <dane> hitsujiTMO, oops misread, yes, it's installed
[12:34] <hitsujiTMO> dane: no. but that file you are configuring (smb.conf) is that on the client or server?
[12:34] <dane> it's on the client. hitsujiTMO.
[12:34] <dane> wait, let me explain a bit what i'm trying to do here.
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> dane  if you can disable security, then potentially anyone can, also on a larger scale
[12:34] <hitsujiTMO> dane ... so you've installed and been trying to configure the samba SERVER on the client machine?
[12:35] <dane> uh, smb.conf is for server configuration? hitsujiTMO?
[12:35] <hitsujiTMO> dane yup.
[12:35] <bekks> dane: Yes.
[12:36] <dane> then how do you configure it to stop the filemanager from asking for a password (which the share is not configured to have)?
[12:36] <hitsujiTMO> dane. remove the samba package you installed. instead install cifs-utils
[12:37] <hitsujiTMO> dane: the server is making that request
[12:37] <dane> hitsujiTMO, the server, ie the one i'm using, is that it?
[12:38] <hitsujiTMO> dane: as in the windows machine, that you're connecting to, that is serving the share is requesting a username/password
[12:39] <hitsujiTMO> dane: you may just need to supply it with anonymous/anonymous
[12:39] <TOM_otakux> hello
[12:40] <TOM_otakux> there is a problem about the network-manager
[12:40] <dane> hitsujiTMO, okay. though why is it asking for it since it wasn't configured on it's end to have a password? the other win 7 machine can access it without it prompting for anything at all.
[12:40] <TOM_otakux> my NetManager always show assert failure
[12:40] <TOM_otakux> and i could not add a DSL connection
[12:41] <TOM_otakux> since i add that, the NetManager will always crash
[12:41] <DIAB__> TOM_otakux,  reboot your system & try again
[12:41] <hitsujiTMO> dane: its prob asking the windows machines for a username + password too, but they may be attempting to login as guest automatically so you don't see a dialogue
[12:42] <dane> hitsujiTMO, ah, i see. can linux do that too?
[12:42] <dane> also cifs-utils is already installed.
[12:42] <dane> how do i configure it?
[12:43] <hitsujiTMO> dane: i'm not sure if it can do it automatically. i've not ever had such a setup to test
[12:44] <dane> hitsujiTMO, i see.
[12:45] <dane> hitsujiTMO, so now that samba's out of the equation. how do i solve the "Failed to mount Windows share" error?
[12:46] <hitsujiTMO> dane: try supplying it with a username + password of anonymous/anonymous or guest/guest
[12:48] <hitsujiTMO> dane: other than that you'd have to sift thru the logs (both server + client) to see where its failing
[12:48] <TOM_otakux> same, the NetManager show "assertion failed (s_wired)"
[12:49] <hitsujiTMO> TOM_otakux: how exactly did you configure network manager. and whats the output of: cat /etc/issue
[12:50] <TOM_otakux> issue just show ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[12:51] <DIAB__> dane[*] google user profile and follow the steps carefully to resolve your problem , assumed it is a user profile things
[12:51] <TOM_otakux> i just add a pppoe on the network manager
[12:51] <TOM_otakux> and connect it
[12:51] <TOM_otakux> and next the net manager could not start
[12:52] <dane> hitsujiTMO, well, it's not asking for passwords anymore at least. it just plain goes "failed to mount windows share". which again doesn't happen on users/public
[12:53] <Akiva-Mobile> why does my bazaar explorer have to upload 200+mb of data, for a project that is less than 17 mb large?
[12:53] <Akiva-Mobile> (pushing a commit rather)
[12:53] <bazhang> Akiva-Mobile, bzr ?
[12:53] <Akiva-Mobile> bazhang: yah
[12:54] <hitsujiTMO> TOM_otakux: i'd start with trying to reinstall nm, sudo apt-get install --reinstall network-manager
[12:55] <TOM_otakux> yep, i have tried, still crash.
[12:55] <TOM_otakux> i decide to remove the network-manager and plasma-nm
[12:56] <TOM_otakux> there a log from the user that have the same problem
[12:56] <TOM_otakux> Dec 27 12:44:46 maxii-Lenovo NetworkManager[2254]: <info> NetworkManager (version 0.9.8.0) is starting...
[12:56] <TOM_otakux> Dec 27 12:44:46 maxii-Lenovo NetworkManager[2254]: <info> Read config file /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
[12:56] <TOM_otakux> Dec 27 12:44:46 maxii-Lenovo NetworkManager[2254]: <info> WEXT support is enabled
[12:56] <TOM_otakux> Dec 27 12:44:46 maxii-Lenovo NetworkManager[2254]: <info> VPN: loaded org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.pptp
[12:56] <FloodBot1> TOM_otakux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:56] <TOM_otakux> Dec 27 12:44:46 maxii-Lenovo NetworkManager[2254]: <info> VPN: loaded org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.openvpn
[12:59] <hitsujiTMO> TOM_otakux: can you pastebin that log in paste.ubuntu.com
[12:59] <TOM_otakux> yep, i see,
[12:59] <TOM_otakux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6656760/
[12:59] <TOM_otakux> i have pasted XD
[13:02] <dane> DIAB__, ...that's very broad you know. which UP do you mean, the linux or windows one?
[13:02] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:02] <hitsujiTMO> TOM_otakux: i'd see nothing there that would cause a crash. i suggest opening a bug report
[13:04] <dane> hitsujiTMO,  so how do i fix "cannot access windows share"?
[13:05] <hitsujiTMO> dane: check the logs, both server and client for a more verbose error report
[13:05] <TOM_otakux> actually that error show is weird, that is show assertion failed
[13:06] <TOM_otakux> and crash at pppoe stage 1
[13:08] <dane> hitsujiTMO, where are the logs in win 7 and linux? sorry, i don't really delve into network much...
[13:09] <hitsujiTMO> dane win 7 has the event logs. in administrative tools iirc. ubuntu logs are in /var/log    most likely cifs logs to syslog
[13:10] <dane> hitsujiTMO, thanks, will check there.
[13:18] <analyser0013> join #ubuntu
[13:18] <analyser0013> hi
[13:18] <analyser0013> anyone here?
[13:18] <cfhowlett> analyser0013, greetings
[13:18] <imghost> !anyone | analyser0013
[13:18] <analyser0013> i want to use my laptop internet as a hotspot for my android device
[13:19] <cfhowlett> !ics
[13:26] <dane> hitsujiTMO, checked the ones in var... it doesn't log the error in the user i tried to access. looked elsewhere and there's no cifs log and syslog didn't have any about it.
[13:27] <dane> hitsujiTMO, also, i forgot to mention the shared folders have $ signs, example, there's a G and a G$ share.  the $ share prompts for a password.
[13:28] <dane> hitsujiTMO, the G share doesn't prompt and immediately says cannot mount windows share.
[13:28] <maxxsire> What are some high-end slates/tablets, that I can install ubuntu/ubuntu studio on (such as x86 tablets) Is this website accurate (http://www.techradar.com/us/news/software/operating-systems/install-linux-on-your-x86-tablet-five-distros-to-choose-from-1162825)? I want to be able to have tablet/slate functionality and to be a desktop all in one. Would any windows 8 tablet work?
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> maxxsire  better ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:30] <dane> hitsujiTMO, if it helps, i once tried to access my own computer by giving my password and username >>of my computer<< when it prompts and it granted me full read/write access.
[13:30] <maxxsire> thanks and sorry
[13:30] <dane> * full read write access to my share.
[13:30] <ObrienDave> maxxsire, no need to be sorry
[13:36] <cfhowlett> maxxsire, slate/tablet/laptops hybrids are freaky and perform none of their stated design goals very well.  consider your options.  perhaps a laptop and an ubuntu pad compatible such as the nexus 10?
[13:38] <caring_ish> hello, I'm using 12.10 & trying to upgrade to 13.04 & the upgrade utility is showing 13.10, which is not actually going to work without primarily upgrading to 13.04. Does anybody have any suggestions?
[13:39] <cfhowlett> caring_ish, easy.  torrent the 13.10 iso and install it.
[13:39] <caring_ish> I would prefer to upgrade so I can preserve all my software
[13:40] <cfhowlett> caring_ish, then you won't be upgrading... since you skipped 13.04 you cannot live update to 13.10.
[13:40] <caring_ish> like I said, I am in the necessity to upgrade to 13.04 first
[13:44] <BluesKaj> caring_ish, update manager should show the next Ubuntu version, check your sources
[13:46] <caring_ish> BluesKaj, I have corrected even the sources.list file. All the sources are up to date with the Quatal reference while the old resources are removed
[13:48] <adas> I need help with minidlna
[13:50] <adas> I have created different folders for different series, but on my TV all the series are in the same folder called "Videos", I want to seperate them, how do I do this?
[13:51] <BluesKaj> caring_ish, upgrading can be done over the internet, but make sure you have the "upgrade LTS only" option turned off in the update manager first , then in the terminal . sudo do-release-upgrade , to upgrade to 13.04
[13:53] <caring_ish> BluesKaj, I'll try that. Gracias for the suggestion :)
[13:53] <BluesKaj> caring_ish, also remove any ppas in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[13:54] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, OK I'm officially confused.  I thought that you could only upgrade to the current release?
[13:54] <cfhowlett> caring_ish, sorry for my bad intel.
[13:54] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MiniDLNA   seen this yet adas ?
[13:56] <BluesKaj> cfhowlett, the next OS in the version list will be upgraded as long as it's still officially supported
[13:56] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, sonofa...!  OK, good to know.
[13:57]  * cfhowlett slaps self for giving/thinking bad advice all this time.
[13:57] <bazhang> the PPA are disabled by default iirc
[13:58] <adas> bazhang: yes, but I cant find the solution there
[13:58] <cameron_> hello can anyone help me my skype sound doesnt work and im on 13.10 ubuntu
[13:58] <BluesKaj> bazhang, yes , but it's always good to remove for safety's sake
[13:58] <cameron_> unity
[13:59] <caring_ish> BluesKaj, I'm actually not seeing an option for "upgrade LTS only" within the update manager
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> cameron_  system settings > sound > applications
[14:00] <BluesKaj> caring_ish, yes I should have known that since there is no official LTS release othger than 12.04 :)
[14:05] <wallzero> Greetings. Can boot be a fat32 partition? I want to have boot and efi to share one partition
[14:05] <motaka2> hello i try to install gt from this page   https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-install-git-on-ubuntu-12-04    after finishing it when i write git --version it says No such file or directory
[14:06] <ikonia> motaka2: why are you using random web pages
[14:06] <motaka2> ikonia: so what should I do ?
[14:06] <ikonia> motaka2: that guide is a disgrace
[14:07] <ikonia> motaka2: have you looked at the official ubuntu documentation ?
[14:07] <motaka2> ikonia: no, where should I checkup ?
[14:07] <motaka2> for installing the newest version of git
[14:07] <ikonia> motaka2: https://help.ubuntu.com https:/wiki.ubuntu.com
[14:07] <bkuberek> hello
[14:08] <motaka2> ikonia: no these two say sudo apt-get git which installs an old version. I need a new version
[14:08] <bkuberek> hello
[14:08] <ikonia> motaka2: I doubt very much you "need" a new version
[14:08] <bkuberek> what are alternatives to Unity GUI?
[14:08] <ikonia> motaka2: more so if you are unable to understand why git --version gives you "command not found" errors
[14:08] <bazhang> !notunity | bkuberek
[14:09] <motaka2> ikonia: For shure I need it. I f i didnt i would have used the current one
[14:09] <ikonia> motaka2: why do you "need" it
[14:09] <bkuberek> bazhang: thanks
[14:09] <motaka2> cause github needs me to install a newer version
[14:09] <ikonia> motaka2: no it doesn't
[14:09] <ikonia> motaka2: it's backward compatible
[14:09] <bhldev> installing git don't work?
[14:09] <motaka2> ikonia: dont say stupid things, I know it does
[14:10] <bhldev> read the git book become a master
[14:10] <ikonia> motaka2: nothing stupid about it, I'm syncing from git hub just fine
[14:10] <bhldev> maybe you can sudo apt-get update
[14:13] <motaka2> bhldev: no it doesnt work
[14:14] <ikonia> apt-get update will do nothing
[14:14] <ikonia> motaka2: I'd focus on why you think you can't use the ubuntu packaged version of git - rather than following poor guides
[14:14] <motaka2> ikonia: I want the newest version. I want 1.85.2. the newest
[14:15] <ikonia> motaka2: why ?
[14:15] <motaka2> the reason is personal
[14:15] <hitsujiTMO> motaka2: more than likely its that you don't know what you're doing. Most of us here use github in one form or another
[14:15] <ikonia> motaka2: now you're just making stuff up, as a minute ago you said it was becuase you NEEDED it to work with git hub, now it's just "persona"
[14:15] <nictrasavios> Is there any real reason to use GPT (With UEFI) over MBR (With BIOS emulation)?  I'm having a lot of troubles installing Windows and Ubuntu together on a UEFI system and I'm considering just going legacy mode.
[14:15] <ikonia> motaka2: it sounds like you have no reason to use it and are either a.) chasing a version number b.) trying to create a problem
[14:15] <motaka2> ikonia: I need it to push on git hub
[14:15] <loki_> I have strange freeze action, i see in logs this new lines http://pastebin.com/786uYBDN
[14:16] <ikonia> motaka2: you can do that just fine with the ubuntu packaged version
[14:16] <loki_> I have nvidia 560ti gtx
[14:16] <motaka2> the git hub page is telling me my git version is not up to date.
[14:16] <ikonia> motaka2: which page ?
[14:16] <ikonia> motaka2: (can you paste the link please)
[14:17] <motaka2> ikonia: lemme find it again
[14:17] <hitsujiTMO> motaka2: the git page can't see what version of git you're using
[14:17] <ikonia> motaka2: just actual do a "git push" instead of reading - you'll find it works just fine
[14:18] <bhldev> motaka2 check your aliases, try which git
[14:18] <ikonia> bhldev: do you have any reason you're just saying these random things ?
[14:18] <bhldev> might just have a corrupted path
[14:18] <ikonia> bhldev: if the command "git" is not found "which" won't work
[14:20] <nictrasavios> ikonia, try "type", its a shell builtin.
[14:20] <motaka2> ikonia: I get this error   Received HTTP code 501 from proxy after CONNECT
[14:20] <ikonia> nictrasavios: which do I need to use "type"
[14:21] <ikonia> motaka2: ok - so that suggests your proxy is causing a problem
[14:21] <nictrasavios> ikanobori, If you do "type git", it will tell you if git is found without which.
[14:21] <ikonia> nictrasavios: what are you talking about ?
[14:22]  * ObrienDave lurks and ROFL
[14:22] <nictrasavios> ikonia, I seen him suggest which, and you turn it down, saying that if one dosen't work the other won't. He mentioned a corrupted path, so I was attempting to determine if that was the case without external binaries.
[14:22] <ikonia> nictrasavios: I'd suggest reading the back scroll
[14:22] <nictrasavios> ikonia, I don't exactly have any. Recently joined, only trying to help while I wait for help.
[14:23] <ikonia> nictrasavios: the problem is a user has blindly done a "sudo make install" type setup on git with either a.) failed b.) put it into /usr/local - however the real problem is he didn't need to do that as the problem appears to be with his proxy server rather than git
[14:24] <ikanobori> My nemesis.
[14:24] <ObrienDave> and he wants to blame it on the git version he's using
[14:24] <ikanobori> We meet once more.
[14:24] <nictrasavios> ikonia, Youch. "make remove" or "make uninstall"? Then reset all the proxy configs to default. After that, follow a guide.
[14:24] <bazhang> ikanobori, hi
[14:24] <ikanobori> Hey bazhang.
[14:24] <ikanobori> That's a long time ago!
[14:24] <bhldev> which git could have worked if it was an alias
[14:24] <ikonia> bhldev: no - it wouldn't
[14:25] <ikonia> nictrasavios: more background is needed, the reason he' in a mess is a.) lack of understanding b.) following a terrible guide
[14:25] <llutz> bhldev: "type" would tell you if it's an alias, "which" doesn't
[14:25] <nictrasavios> ikonia, Then he dose not need to host a proxy server. If he needed one, he would have the knowledge to make one. If he is setting it up for another reason, then use one that already exists.
[14:25] <ikonia> the ammount of blind help that is going on is just going to cause more problems then add value
[14:26] <ikonia> nictrasavios: who says he's hosting one ?
[14:26] <nictrasavios> ikonia, Why else would he need to set one up?
[14:26] <ikonia> nictrasavios: who said he's setting up a proxy serve r/
[14:26] <ikonia> nictrasavios: again - you need to have seen the back scroll
[14:26] <nictrasavios> ikonia, You said "His proxy server".
[14:27] <ikonia> nictrasavios: yes, a proxy server he's using, it could be his personal one, the one he's behind at work/school/friends house
[14:27]  * ObrienDave thinks people need to let ikonia fix the issue FIRST
[14:27] <ikonia> I'm out, someone else can blindly help this guy to his doom
[14:27] <nictrasavios> ikonia, I see. I'l guessing you don't mean a problem with the server itself, rather how he is accessing it.
[14:28] <nictrasavios> ikonia, I'll give it a shot. Haha.
[14:28] <ikonia> nictrasavios: I don't find it funny that you'd just making random assumptions and helping/advising the guy with bad information
[14:29] <nictrasavios> ikonia, Not random. I followed your verbal trajectories and attempted to use induction. And, I never once directed anything to him. only to you.
[14:31] <nictrasavios> ikonia, Therefore, I don't find it funny that *YOU* make random assumptions and incorrectly criticize me without justification.
[14:31] <ikonia> nictrasavios: your advise was poor and based on asssumption the user is watching it
[14:31] <ikonia> nictrasavios: your advise was poor and based on asssumption the user is watching it
[14:31] <ikonia> oops, sorry
[14:32]  * hitsujiTMO grabs the popcorn
[14:32] <ikonia> nictrasavios: no, I don't mean "how he's accessing it" - again, stop assuming, I'd say "how he's accessing it" it looks like the proxy server does not have the ability to forward the type of requests he wants over http - which looking at what he's trying to do with git - makes sense.
[14:32] <nictrasavios> ikonia, Don't speak for him. You don't know what he was doing. , second, I'm not exactly get paid to help am I? So sorry if I don't have the proper training.
[14:33] <ikonia> I do know what he's doing - as I've just spent time talking to him to understand the problem
[14:33] <nictrasavios> ikonia, So then why dosen't he use a different one? I assume that because I thought someone so full of themselves would have been smart enough to tell him to use another.
[14:33] <ObrienDave> nictrasavios, ROFL. you, sir, jumped into the middle of the conversation and tried to "correct" it without complete knowledge of the situation.
[14:33] <nictrasavios> ObrienDave, And? Is there something wrong with that? Better something than nothing.
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> a beer anyone?
[14:33] <hitsujiTMO> please MonkeyDust
[14:34] <ObrienDave> *more popcorn*
[14:34] <ikonia> nictrasavios: again "use a different proxy server" you know nothing about it - is he in work ? can he just install a "new" proxy server ? is he in school is that possible ? does he have the knowledge, does he need a proxy server - all stuff you've just over looked before saying blindly "install a new proxy"
[14:34] <imghost> MonkeyDust, please
[14:34] <llutz> ladies, pls take it to -offtopic
[14:34] <gordonjcp> MonkeyDust: bit early for a beer, but thanks
[14:34] <nictrasavios> ikonia, You said he was not making his own server, so what could you possibly mean by "install another"? He just changes the damn ip and port.
[14:35] <ikonia> nictrasavios: what are you talking about "changed his ip and port"
[14:35] <nictrasavios> ikonia, You also gave the impression that he wasn't going to listen to "you don't need one" with your raving about how he was going down a path of doom.
[14:35] <ikonia> nictrasavios: I said no such thing about him not listening, the path of doom was the one you and others where blindly taking him down
[14:35] <nictrasavios> ikonia, You said he was *using* not installing a proxy, therefore he is accessing someone elses proxy. Correct? This is what you told me,.
[14:36] <ikonia> nictrasavios: he is accessing a proxy that may / may not be under his control, based on the expeirence level, I'd guess not under his control, but this has not been confirmed yet
[14:36] <nictrasavios> ikonia, So, you're busy telling me not to assume? You can't be explicit about what you're saying.
[14:36]  * hitsujiTMO passes the popcorn
[14:36] <ObrienDave> *better than a movie*
[14:36] <ikonia> nictrasavios: I've just been very expclit, what part have I not made clear ?
[14:36] <llutz> ObrienDave: you know the wrong movies
[14:36] <imghost> lol
[14:36] <ObrienDave> llutz, ;P
[14:37] <nictrasavios> ikonia, You said he was using a proxy, yet then refered to installing a new one. You said " I'm out, someone else can blindly help this guy to his doom", implying he was on a path of doom and wouldn't listen.
[14:38] <ikonia> nictrasavios: I'll leave you to it, I've carried this on more than I should
[14:38] <nictrasavios> ikonia, I can give more examples but honestly, you're a 13 year old with a keyboard, its like winning the special olympics because I still feel retarded.
[14:38] <ikanobori> He said he's using a proxy which doesn't support the HTTP methods git wants.
[14:38] <ikonia> ikanobori: you seemed to have grasped that shockingly easy, I'm glad it wasn't confusing
[14:40] <ikanobori> How is life in the land of almost the same nickname ikonia?
[14:41] <ObrienDave> awww, darn, i missed the big send off ;P
[14:42] <shstor> I have a question about installing programs.  I am trying to install two programs that are exe formate.  I have tried to use the wine program but not having much luck.  Any ideas?
[14:42] <ObrienDave> shstor, those would be windows programs. not supported here
[14:43] <OerHeks> shstor, check the wine database
[14:43] <OerHeks> !wine
[14:43] <shstor> I know.  The company only offers windows and mac installation
[14:43] <hitsujiTMO> shstor: what programs? is there no native linux equivalent?
[14:43] <ObrienDave> ^^^^^ shstor
[14:44] <hitsujiTMO> shstor: the easiest thing to do would be using a virtual machine
[14:45] <imghost> hitsujiTMO, but why he is trying to install .exe?
[14:45] <ObrienDave> dunno, he hasen't told us yet
[14:45] <ObrienDave> *hasn't
[14:45] <rinti> hi, i just updated ubuntu, and now my keyboard wont type my regional characters (swedish characters), any clue as to how to fix this?
[14:45] <imghost> ObrienDave, ok :), shstor why are you trying to install .exe on linux?
[14:46] <loa> how i can use alt+tab when use drag and drop under ubuntu 12.04?
[14:46] <hitsujiTMO> rinti: ubuntu desktop or server?
[14:46] <loa> under 13.10 it was not a problem.
[14:46] <RoryHughes> rinti: Are you using Unity?
[14:46] <rinti> desktop, 13.10
[14:46] <RoryHughes> rinti: go into keyboard in settings
[14:46] <rinti> it's set to swedish layout, but my regional keys wont work
[14:47] <hitsujiTMO> rinti: try changing it to something else and then back again
[14:47] <ObrienDave> rinti, did you reboot/relog after changing?
[14:47] <rinti> oh wait, my regional keys are set to [';, so its english
[14:47] <rinti> yes
[14:47] <shstor> Both are from the Bank of China 1) "Online Banking Login Active X"  2) "USBKey Management Tool"
[14:48] <ikonia> shstor: using them on linux would be a VERY unwise move
[14:48] <rinti> hmm i removed english from the input source list and now it seems to be working
[14:48] <ikonia> shstor: use them on their native OS only
[14:48] <hitsujiTMO> rinti: i'm having similar issues with ubuntu randomly switching to US. have to change to something else then back ti IE to fix it
[14:48] <RoryHughes> hitsujiTMO IE as in ireland?
[14:48] <imghost> shstor, how about dual boot? :)
[14:48] <hitsujiTMO> RoryHughes: yups
[14:48] <RoryHughes> hitsujiTMO Howerya
[14:49] <rinti> thanks, got it working :)
[14:49] <shstor> my native OS is broken and cant get internet
[14:49] <shstor> thats why i moved to ubuntu, becuase its amazing
[14:49] <RoryHughes> hitsujiTMO Dublin?
[14:49] <hitsujiTMO> RoryHughes: i'm grand
[14:49] <hitsujiTMO> RoryHughes: cork fein :P
[14:50] <RoryHughes> Ah nice
[14:50] <geet_> wish everyone in the world used *nix and ekiga. sigh.
[14:50] <hitsujiTMO> shstor: if you want to use those apps while still having the majority of your working system in ubuntu then run a vm for them
[14:51] <shstor> hitsujiTMO can you walk me thought that?
[14:54] <hitsujiTMO> shstor: thats a little off topic here but this might give you an idea of whats involved http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DhwS4eZExU
[14:54] <TJ-> shstor: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/CreateGuests#Create_VMs_running_other_operating_systems:_virt-install
[14:55] <loa> It can't be a problem.
[14:55] <loa> How i can drag and drop from one window to another in ubuntu 12.04 in fullscreen?
[14:56] <shstor> I cant see the youtube bc im in China and its blocked, i need to get a VPN
[14:56] <shstor> im going to the ubuntu site, thanks
[14:56] <shstor> i will read thought it and get back to you all
[14:57] <imghost> !vbox | shstor
[14:57] <ObrienDave> shstor, ^^^^ works very well
[15:04] <bitfree> how do i remove facebook crap from the web? any plugins for firefox to do t hat?
[15:04] <demophobia> !webcam
[15:04]  * demophobia apparently doesn't know how to use the bot.
[15:07] <Rory> !ot | bitfree
[15:07] <shstor> with virtual box, do i need to download it in both windows and ubuntu?
[15:08] <demophobia> !help
[15:08]  * demophobia may not be authorized to use the bot.
[15:08]  * demophobia apparently was on the right track and should have been more patient, and probably should quit using /me now.
[15:08] <demophobia> bitfree, do you mean social media opportunities presented on news websites etc., or advertisements in general?
[15:08] <Rory> shstor: What are you trying to do?
[15:08] <adas> hi, is it possible to make transmission to run a script I made after a torrent is finnished and moved to the completed directory?
[15:09] <SpaghettiCat> adas:  I don't think that's ubuntu-related
[15:09] <Kurvivor> Hello. In Ubuntu, i can switch to terminal (tty#) by prressing Ctrl+Shift+F#
[15:09] <Kurvivor> how do i switch back?
[15:09] <Rory> adas: Yes, if you are running transmission-daemon. Edit  /etc/transmission-daemon/settings.json as described here
[15:09] <Rory> https://forum.transmissionbt.com/viewtopic.php?t=10364
[15:09] <Rory> !pm | shstor
[15:09] <adas> thanks Rory
[15:10] <xangua> adas: you can also with transmission gtk, edit menu>preferences>download
[15:11] <adas> ty
[15:11] <xangua> Kurvivor: F7
[15:11] <bitfree> demophobia i mean blocking the "like" buttons and all scripts that come from social media sites. ive blocked some in /etc/hosts but they still cmoe trough
[15:11] <Kurvivor> xangua: thank
[15:11] <shstor> I need to run two programs with an exe installation.  I know that is for windows, but it is the only thing the company  provides.
[15:11] <Rory> bitfree: There are some browser extensions that do that
[15:11] <Rory> !wine | shstor
[15:12] <shstor> So, I am thinking about using virtual box
[15:12] <shstor> after reading the website i kind of understand how it works
[15:12] <bitfree> how can i get the source code of firefox addons?
[15:13] <bitfree> for e.x. this page shows a plugin https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/facebook-toolbar/?src=search but i cant find the source
[15:13] <MonkeyDust> is firefox opensource?
[15:14] <shstor> Do I need virtualbox on both my ubuntu and windows.
[15:14] <hitsujiTMO> bitfree then thwy prob hane not released the sourcecode
[15:14] <shstor> ?
[15:14] <ObrienDave> shstor, no, just ubuntu
[15:14] <shstor> ok
[15:14] <hitsujiTMO> shstor: no. you install vbox in the host system. then install the guest system(windows) into vbox
[15:15] <shstor> ok
[15:15] <bitfree> i dont trust closed-source plugins, they may just as well have more spyware in them
[15:15]  * ObrienDave hands bitfree a foil hat
[15:15] <bazhang> !ot | bitfree
[15:15] <demophobia> !dictionary
[15:15] <shstor> should i create new hard disk or use existing?
[15:16] <hitsujiTMO> shstor: create a new. make it at least 40gb
[15:16]  * demophobia feels jealous that bitfree got a foil hat while demophobia didn't.
[15:16] <Kurvivor> I have set gnome 3 as my shell and deleted unity; but when i tried creating other users and logging as them, there were no window borders, no menu and there was unity symbol in login screen next to their names. what does that mean? How can i fix that?
[15:16] <ObrienDave> shstor, create new, 32GB, DYNAMIC
[15:17] <shstor> VDI, VMDK, VHD or HDD?
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> shstor  vdi
[15:17] <hitsujiTMO> Kurvivor: did you set gnome as the default shell in lightdm config?
[15:17] <motaka2> join #git
[15:17] <shstor> dynamically allocated or fixed size?
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> shstor  dynamically
[15:18] <hitsujiTMO> Kurvivor: sounds like you did not remove the unity session, and only parts of unity
[15:18] <shstor> it says:   p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }  A dynamically allocated virtual disk file will only use space on your physical hard disk as it fills up, although it will not shrink again automatically when space on it is freed. A fixed size virtual disk file may take longer to create on some systems but is often faster to use.
[15:19] <Kurvivor> hisujiTMD: i see. What i would like is probably to restore unity back for other users. Wher can i read up on the subkect?
[15:19] <Kurvivor> hisujiTMD: and no, i did not edited lightdm config
[15:19] <hitsujiTMO> Kurvivor: how did you remove unity?
[15:20] <Kurvivor> hitsujiTMD: by removing packets with 'unity' in them one after another
[15:21] <hitsujiTMO> Kurvivor: try: sudo apt-get install unity
[15:22] <JPSman> my rythmbox is stuck on browse instead of showall
[15:22] <JPSman> can anyone help?
[15:22] <JPSman> like STUCK on browse
[15:23] <Kurvivor> hitsujiTMO: doing it now
[15:23] <JPSman> i uninstalled and re-sintalled it
[15:24] <JPSman> how can I purge my system of rythmbox so that it won't be stuck on browse
[15:24] <JPSman> ?
[15:24] <ObrienDave> !patience | JPSman
[15:24] <shstor> ok
[15:24] <hitsujiTMO> JPSman: more than likely its a user config is the issue. try: find ~ -name *rhythm*                                this will locate the rhythmbox local config files and maybe remove them
[15:25] <shstor> I created a new VM but when I try to run it it says: FATAL: No bootable medium found? System halted
[15:25] <hitsujiTMO> shstor: you need to give it a windows iso to install from
[15:26] <JPSman> hitsujiTMO thanks I'll try that after uninstalling it
[15:26] <irc-5225225> shstor: Did you attatch an iso file to the vm?
[15:27] <MonkeyDust>  shstor in settings > storage
[15:27] <shstor> how do i do that?
[15:28] <shstor> i am in storage
[15:29] <demophobia> Where's the chat client? I can only set my status ...
[15:29] <shstor> What do I do in storage?
[15:29] <Kurvivor> hitsujiTMO: ok, it is done now. What should i change to ensure my session remains in gnome?
[15:30] <Guest49127> Hi
[15:30] <demophobia> That blue envelope is a chat program, right?
[15:30] <hitsujiTMO> Kurvivor: nothing for you. lightdm retains your last session choice
[15:30] <demophobia> in the top right corner of 12.04?
[15:31] <MonkeyDust> shstor  you want to setup windows inside vbox?
[15:31] <demophobia> i figured it out, thanks.
[15:32] <Kurvivor> hitsujiTMO: thanks
[15:32] <shstor> I will start again
[15:32] <Kurvivor> hitsujiTMO: i will try changing session or something now
[15:32] <MonkeyDust> shstor  it's called trial and error, good way to learn new things
[15:33] <shstor> under VM name and OS type, i put windows and windows vista
[15:33] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[15:33] <tokam> https://www.facebook.com/ubuntulinux/posts/10151995054498592
[15:33] <shstor> memory, 512MB?
[15:34] <shstor> base memory
[15:35] <ObrienDave> shstor, 25% of your RAM
[15:35] <demophobia> "All you need to get started is Skype for Linux version 4.2" -- Is Ubuntu 12.04 "Linux version 4.2"? What does that phrase mean?
[15:36] <demophobia> (found it in the drop down menu, 'multiarch', so I suppose so -- what's 'multiarch'?)
[15:36] <llutz> demophobia: skype version 4.2 for linux
[15:36] <bariho> I want to try ubuntu in a VirtualBox VM. host ist 64bit, should I pick 64bit or 32bit ubuntu? does it matter at all?
[15:37] <llutz> demophobia: skype is a 32bit package, multiarch allows to install that on a 64bit OS too (if it is multiarch capable, like *buntu since ... a while)
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> bariho  32bit for a virtual machine
[15:37] <somsip_> bariho: dpeends which one you want to test. You can use either
[15:38] <somsip_> MonkeyDust: I just chose 'Ubuntu 64bit' in the machine type with a recent test install of 14.04 64bit. Worked fine
[15:39] <shstor> When I try to start it still says: Fatal: No bootable medium found! System halted
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> shstor  is the windows cd inserted?
[15:43] <demon^eye> Hi , does installing "Ubuntu restricted extras" make any good or bad reaction ?
[15:43] <shstor> i dont have a windows cd
[15:43] <ObrienDave> demon^eye, it allows you to play "non-free" codecs.
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> demon^eye  you need it to play mp3 files and such
[15:45] <_5andr0> hey guys. anybody here who wants to help me fixing my rtl8111 eth controller for a little btc payment? i can give xrdp/ssh access over a working pci eth card. that's my prob: http://askubuntu.com/questions/396804/rtl8111-8168b-rev-06-ethernet-controller-not-working-with-ubuntu-12-04-03-13-1
[15:45] <demon^eye> MonkeyDust, : i could play mp3 before it ... just read somewhere it recommend   to have it in :)
[15:45] <hitsujiTMO> demon^eye: its mainly just flash, some ms fonts, unrar and codecs
[15:45] <ObrienDave> demon^eye, it won't hurt to install it
[15:45] <shstor> Do I need windows on a CD? if so how can I get one?
[15:45] <llutz> shstor: a cd or an iso-file
[15:46] <llutz> shstor: either you have it, or you buy it
[15:46] <demon^eye> i do it coz when i play (sometimes) youtube clip it loose syn ...anyone have this issue before?
[15:46] <demon^eye> what i mean is video and sound are not the same line
[15:46] <demon^eye> wired shit
[15:47] <demon^eye> any idea why it happen ?
[15:47] <ObrienDave> we know what "sync" is. thanks
[15:47] <iceroot> demon^eye: ubuntu restricted extras is non free software, full with patents and other evil things. it will not break the system but there are a lot of people which try to avoid non free software
[15:47] <demophobia> llutz, oh ... thanks for the clarification ... studying foreign languages might be messing with my parsing of English >_<
[15:47] <demophobia> Cool, thank you.
[15:47] <demon^eye> ObrienDave,  : didnt say u arent :D
[15:48] <ObrienDave> demon^eye> what i mean is video and sound are not the same line
[15:48] <shstor> that's a little inconvenient.
[15:48] <Wayward_Vagabond> When I press ctrl + alt + f2 (or f3 - f6) it isn't switching to a shell.
[15:48] <demon^eye> ObrienDave,  : ok , ever u encore such case? it happen not always...
[15:48] <rascul> i just loaded ubuntu up in a vm, first time i've used it in years, how do i get to a terminal?
[15:48] <demon^eye> iceroot,  (10x man)
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> rascul  ctrl-alt t
[15:49] <rascul> ahh thanks
[15:49] <Wayward_Vagabond> rascul: Not for sure if ubuntu is different than xubuntu but applications menu -> accesories -> terminal
[15:49] <rascul> there's no applications menu, ctrl-alt-t did it
[15:50] <Wayward_Vagabond> No applications menu?
[15:50] <rascul> nope
[15:50] <hitsujiTMO> Wayward_Vagabond: are you specifically using left ctrl + left alt + f2?
[15:50] <Wayward_Vagabond> hitsujiTMO: yes
[15:50] <demon^eye> anyhow , by default does Ubuntu install flash player ?
[15:50] <gmachine_24> greetings. how do I set up a keyboard shortcut - I want ctrl+alt+t to open a terminal but I am forgetting how to do this...
[15:50] <hitsujiTMO> Wayward_Vagabond: are you at the DE or have you hit a blank screen?
[15:51] <iceroot> demon^eye: when you pick at installation "install non free stuff" yes
[15:51] <Wayward_Vagabond> This is the machine in question, and no effect whatsoever from pressing it
[15:51] <iceroot> demon^eye: but its not allowed to put flashplayer inside the isos
[15:51] <iceroot> demon^eye: if you need flash "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[15:52] <demon^eye> iceroot, : i installed "Ubuntu restricted extras" and check its via adobe site and its claim i have the lastest version
[15:52] <demon^eye> so all oki doki i hope :)
[15:52] <hitsujiTMO> Wayward_Vagabond: some keyboards have an "f lock" or invert the fn key function such that you must press the fn key to get f2? is one of these the case for you?
[15:52] <Kurvivor> hitsujiTMO: hello again
[15:52] <Wayward_Vagabond> nyet
[15:52] <demon^eye> now we will see if the syn get lost again :@
[15:53] <Kurvivor> hitsujiTMO: i could not simply switch sessions from gnome gui or unity gui
[15:53] <hitsujiTMO> Kurvivor: o/
[15:53] <iceroot> demon^eye: ok i was not aware of that flashplayer is also in resrticted extras but seems to be fine (if having flash is a status we can call "fine")
[15:53] <gmachine_24> demon^eye unless you want to play Amazon Prime or other video ....... or has this been fixed?
[15:53] <Kurvivor> hitsujiTMO: but at least unity session for another user starts
[15:53] <Kurvivor> hitsujiTMO: thank you for your advice
[15:53] <hitsujiTMO> Kurvivor: do you not get the option in lightdm?
[15:53] <Wayward_Vagabond> f2 does have an alternate function, but it seems to be an os-linked hot key, and has never had any effect
[15:53] <gmachine_24> or other Amazon video I mean
[15:54] <Wayward_Vagabond> and you have to hold down Fn to use it
[15:54] <demon^eye> gmachine_24, : i just play youtube clips ... nothing special :)
[15:54] <Kurvivor> hitsujiTMO: only in lightdm; i was hoping to be able to switch without logging out
[15:54] <gmachine_24> demon^eye isn't youtube migrating to html5
[15:54] <Kurvivor> hitsujiTMO: there are such oprions in menus
[15:55] <hitsujiTMO> Kurvivor: ahh i see. you can send a signal via dbus, but it still requires relogging to change
[15:55] <hitsujiTMO> gmachine_24: vary slowly, they have been migrating for a few years now
[15:56] <Wayward_Vagabond> In setting manager, I can't find any thing involving the ttyls, is there a particular package responsible for it?
[15:56] <demon^eye> gmachine_24,  : yes and no ... not all clips are in html5 atm... but that seems to be their aim in future .
[15:56] <Wayward_Vagabond> *settings manager
[15:56] <gmachine_24> hitsujiTMO: yes html5 is taking forever; the entire flash debacle represents the hazards of closed-source software ... imho
[15:56] <hitsujiTMO> Wayward_Vagabond: more than likely the issue is with they keyboard. any way of trying  different keyboard?
[15:56] <xvzf> I'm using cinnamon desktop and cannot browse my mobile phone filesystem through bluetooth. Google did not help me. How can I figure out what the problem is? The pairing is successful but browsing does not work
[15:56] <unto> !list
[15:57] <jhutchins> Wayward_Vagabond: Are the tty processes actually running?
[15:57] <Wayward_Vagabond> hitsujiTMO: No, but I can try setting up a shortcut to test the keys
[15:58] <Wayward_Vagabond> er, I know ctrl and alt work anyways
[15:58] <hitsujiTMO> gmachine_24: the issue is that browsers dont all support the same codecs, so it causes problems. its why they heavily invested in marketing for webm
[15:59] <motaka2> how can I set a proxy on my local ubuntu so I can go around filtering ?
[16:00] <gmachine_24> I am building a media server and am looking at ubuntu-server and mythbuntu; I assume questions re; these versions should be addressed to their irc channels? :-)
[16:00] <hitsujiTMO> motaka2: where exactly is the filtering taking place?
[16:01] <shstor> I have windows vista on my computer how can i get the iso?
[16:01] <hitsujiTMO> gmachine_24: questions can be asked here too. they are supported here
[16:02] <Wayward_Vagabond> f2 key is working
[16:02] <Lorra> Hi everybody! I'm writing a small gtk ui with gi.repository Gtk, Gdk and GObject. My program fires off another process with Popen and monitors its output for some float values, which I use to update a progress indicator in the ui (at the moment it is the text of a label). Everything is alright, but when the progress gets to about 30% the ui window blocks. Values are still received by the program, but the UI isn't responsive. Can anybody help me with that? Th
[16:02] <Lorra> ank you ^^
[16:02] <thewinner> hi
[16:03] <Lorra> (process output is checked every n milliseconds via a Gobject timer which goes off and invokes a callback function)
[16:03] <hitsujiTMO> Wayward_Vagabond: whats output of: sudo service tty2 status
[16:04] <gmachine_24> hitsujiTMO: great. thanks.
[16:04] <motaka2> hitsujiTMO: sometimes from inside the countru sometimes a website like github doesnt allow us to do things cause of sanctions
[16:04] <Wayward_Vagabond> tty2 start/running, process 31757
[16:05] <hitsujiTMO> motaka2: then you need a proxy/vpn to be setup in another country. usually on a vpn
[16:05] <hitsujiTMO> Wayward_Vagabond: ctrl + alt + f2 now
[16:05] <Wayward_Vagabond> No effect still
[16:06] <shstor> I have the windows sticker on the bottom of my computer, how do I get the ISO?
[16:07] <gmachine_24> shstor............ you are looking for a windows iso?
[16:07] <MonkeyDust> shstor  that would be a question for ##windows, i guess
[16:07] <WhatIsTheMatrix> Lorra: there's probably a better channel where's you'd be more likely to get a response to that question, a programming channel. maybe there's a #gnome channel, or #c, or ##c++ channel. something like that
[16:07] <shstor> ok
[16:08] <gmachine_24> yes. we don't do windows.
[16:08] <shstor> thanks
[16:08] <shstor> me neither it sucks
[16:08] <shstor> :)
[16:09] <dane999> hitsujiTMO, i know it's been an hour or so but i'd just like to mention that i've solved the "unable to mount windows share problem" thanks to imghost (dude PMed me). turns out the problem was on windows end. you had to add permission to "user" "Everyone" under security in the right click menu in explorer) and now it can mount the offending shares i want to access. just wanted to say thanks even though we were rather off-tangent in trying to solve it. also
[16:09] <dane999> , so this one shows up in the logs. :)
[16:09] <gmachine_24> dane999 you were unable to mount a windows share on an ubuntu system?
[16:09] <WhatIsTheMatrix> dane999: nice. and nice of imghost. congrats!
[16:10] <hitsujiTMO> dane999: sweet, at least you got sorted
[16:10] <motaka2> hitsujiTMO: i meant using tools like Tor etc, I can use it on google chrome or firefox, but when i want to wget something from terminal it doesnt use proxy and google code is closed to iran
[16:10] <Lorra> join #gnome
[16:10] <dane999> gmachine_24, yeah.
[16:11] <gmachine_24> I ask because I have the reverse problem: trouble mounting an ubuntu share (samba) on windows 7. only way I found to do it was to map the drive.
[16:11] <hitsujiTMO> motaka2: you can use a vpn for that. but that vpn needs to be located in an unrestricted country
[16:12] <gmachine_24> motaka2, keep in mind that, although vpns claim to be secure, they are not. they all keep records, even if they say they don't. some of the anonymous gang (and others) were busted when a british vpn which had promised security handed over its records after receiving a subpoena. vpns are not what they claim.
[16:13] <dane999> gmachine_24, do you have the "shared folders" application? with that one you can just add any folder and it will be visible on windows.
[16:13] <dane999> well at least it was THAT easy on my end.
[16:13] <gmachine_24> dane999 I don't know anything about the shared folders application. this is for windows 7?
[16:13] <hitsujiTMO> gmachine_24: or ... you can install your own on you own vps like a normal person
[16:13] <dane999> gmachine_24, no, linux
[16:14] <dane999> not sure what's it's actually called.
[16:14] <gmachine_24> dane999, no, I didn't know about that. I will check it out. thanks.
[16:14] <gmachine_24> hitsujiTMO: but that will not work for mr motaka
[16:14] <_5andr0> i got ubuntu desktop and just installed open-ssh and changed the config to use "PasswordAuthentication yes" but putty is still freezing after entering username and not asking for a password. how can i fix this?
[16:14] <Wayward_Vagabond> So, any idea why ctrl + alt + f2 isn't working? All the keys are functioning, and tty2 is running
[16:14] <llutz> hitsujiTMO: you cannot trust vpn on vps because you own/control the data-center the vps runs in
[16:14] <llutz> because you don't own*
[16:15] <gmachine_24> what llutz said
[16:15] <hitsujiTMO> llutz: well, ok, true.
[16:15] <dane999> gmachine_24, ah, it's shares-admin
[16:15] <gmachine_24> dane999 - great. thanks.
[16:16] <jhutchins> Wayward_Vagabond: Are the tty processes actually running?
[16:16] <gmachine_24> dane999: but how does this let me see Ubuntu shares on Windows?
[16:16] <hitsujiTMO> _5andr0: did you restart the ssh service?
[16:16] <demon^eye> I just install "preload "dameon how can i remove this?
[16:16] <_5andr0> yes i restarted it
[16:17] <dane999> gmachine_24, it worked "out of the box" long before i started tinkering with samba for me.
[16:17] <WhatIsTheMatrix> demon^eye: what is the exact name of the package?
[16:17] <gmachine_24> dane999 ok...... will look into it
[16:17] <demon^eye> WhatIsTheMatrix,  : SEC
[16:17] <dane999> gmachine_24, but basically you try adding your say, "downloads" folder and see if it's visible in windows
[16:17] <universal> how to change repository download server from terminal ?
[16:17] <Wayward_Vagabond> jhutchins: Yes, tty2 is running
[16:18] <gmachine_24> dane999 actually mapping the drives has worked out fine and been very fast
[16:18] <jhutchins> Wayward_Vagabond: In a terminal, what does ps ax | grep tty show?
[16:18] <dane999> gmachine_24, so you simply can't see shares in windows?
[16:18] <WhatIsTheMatrix> demon^eye: is the exact name of the package 'preload'?
[16:18] <WhatIsTheMatrix> !info preload
[16:19] <Wayward_Vagabond>  1018 tty4     Ss+    0:00 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty4
[16:19] <Wayward_Vagabond>  1334 tty1     Ss+    0:00 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty1
[16:19] <Wayward_Vagabond> 14237 tty5     Ss+    0:00 /bin/login --
[16:19] <WhatIsTheMatrix> demon^eye: if so, then try --> sudo dpkg --purge preload
[16:19] <Wayward_Vagabond> 20437 tty3     Ss+    0:00 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty3
[16:19] <Wayward_Vagabond> 28656 tty6     Ss+    0:00 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty6
[16:19] <Wayward_Vagabond> 31954 tty2     Ss+    0:00 /bin/login --
[16:19] <gmachine_24> dane999 unless I map the share/drive ---- whatever I have set to share in Samba..... then, no. Although on this same Windows 7 computer six months ago or so I was able to see the Samba shares fine..... have never figured out what the problem is
[16:19] <gmachine_24> WTF
[16:19] <Wayward_Vagabond> 31960 pts/2    S+     0:00 grep --color=auto tty
[16:20] <jhutchins> Wayward_Vagabond: How many ctrl and alt keys do you have?
[16:20] <MonkeyDust> Wayward_Vagabond  wild thought: firstly, does the command 'tasks' show something?
[16:20] <Wayward_Vagabond> jhutchins: I'm using the left one of each
[16:20] <Wayward_Vagabond> No command 'tasks' found, did you mean:
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> Wayward_Vagabond  forget that.... did you use ctrl-z ?
[16:21] <_5andr0> https://github.com/googlecreativelab/coder/blob/master/raspbian-addons/etc/ssh/sshd_config that's the except same config i got except for no # before PasswordAuthentication yes. when i installed ubuntu i enabled auto login. could that cause the problem?
[16:21] <gmachine_24> dane999, but Ubuntu machines see all the Windows shares and other Ubuntu shares........... and Windows machines see each other ... so.... I don't know. I got tired of spending so many hours getting nowhere.
[16:21] <jhutchins> Wayward_Vagabond: A clear alternative would be to try various other combinations.
[16:21] <universal> how to change repository download server from terminal ? I wanna change it from archive.ubuntu.com to mirror.cse.iitk.ac.in from terminal
[16:21] <jhutchins> Wayward_Vagabond: Also, teset F1-F6
[16:21] <dane999> gmachine_24, maybe you're looking at homegroup rather than network?
[16:21] <WhatIsTheMatrix> MonkeyDust: did you mean 'jobs' rather than 'tasks'?
[16:21] <hitsujiTMO> universal: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:21] <gmachine_24> dane999, no, it's a network
[16:22] <gmachine_24> I'm not that lame
[16:22] <universal> hitsujiTMO: any command from terminal ?
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> WhatIsTheMatrix  yes, that is what i meant
[16:22] <WhatIsTheMatrix> MonkeyDust: rgr
[16:22] <dane999> gmachine_24, of course,  just assumed it was a common mistake. :P
[16:22] <BluesKaj_> universal, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:22] <Wayard-Vagabond> That shortcut just crashed my client
[16:22] <Wayard-Vagabond> -_-
[16:22] <demon^eye> WhatIsTheMatrix,  : i removed it  , 10x
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> Wayward_Vagabond  does the command 'jobs' show something?
[16:23] <dane999> gmachine_24, though perhaps the problem is on windows' end. i remember doing something to gpedit.msc
[16:23] <jhutchins> MonkeyDust: What are you after?
[16:23] <WhatIsTheMatrix> demon^eye: cool. cheers
[16:23] <Wayard-Vagabond> The hell should it have done?
[16:23] <hitsujiTMO> universal: no direct commands, unless you use sed. but thats dangerous for me to blindly give you a sed pattern to replace without knowing exactly what way your sources.list is setup
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> jhutchins  after demonized jobs
[16:23] <gmachine_24> universal, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[16:23] <demophobia> !thunderbird
[16:24] <dane999> gmachine_24, i think  it's this http://superuser.com/questions/115337/windows-7-connecting-to-samba-shares
[16:24] <gmachine_24> or can't you just change the repositories using a text editor?
[16:25] <FranktheTank> Hey all. Where is the tools directory installed by default with eclipse?
[16:25] <gmachine_24> dane999 that is for a windows version one grade above mine.
[16:25] <fud> Can I get a ubuntu cloak? :p
[16:25] <imghost> WhatIsTheMatrix, dane999 sorry for late reply was having the dinner, thankyou :) and enjoy :)
[16:25] <Wayard-Vagabond> Who was it that suggested I use that shortcut?
[16:25] <gmachine_24> dane999, I have done my homework
[16:26] <WhatIsTheMatrix> imghost: np. nice work ;-)
[16:26] <imghost> WhatIsTheMatrix, cheers:)
[16:26] <fud> Lol may I have a ubuntu cloak?
[16:26] <dane999> gmachine_24,  sorry if i sounded condescending, just trying to help.
[16:26] <WhatIsTheMatrix> cheers
[16:26] <Wayward_Vagabond> ...
[16:27] <hitsujiTMO> fud: you need to become an ubuntu member to get a cloak
[16:27] <universal> http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=cc31761 hitsujiTMO
[16:27] <Wayward_Vagabond> hello?
[16:27] <fud> HisaoNakai: define "Member"
[16:27] <demophobia> Where can I find support regarding thunderbird? I don't know if that would be ontopic here: I want to access a window showing all my inboxes together, rather than clicking between sections in a sidebar.
[16:27] <MonkeyDust> fud  you mean for irc? if yes, ask in #freenode
[16:28] <bekks> demophobia: Thats not implemented in Thunderbird.
[16:28] <lazare> Is it possible to install Ubuntu on one device then copy it over to the HD and use it that way?
[16:28] <WhatIsTheMatrix> FranktheTank: might need to be specific about just what tools you mean. you could do the command 'dpkg -L eclipse', but that might not be what you are looking for, as eclipse uses tools that are installed by other packages, such as 'gcc' as one example
[16:28] <andrewvos> My MBA fn keys aren't doing anything in 13.10. I'm running i3wm, and they show up when I try change the key in the Keyboard/Shortcuts window. Makes me think that I'm not running some service that does the volume change?
[16:28] <HisaoNakai> yofun: ???
[16:28] <BluesKaj_> hitsujiTMO, wrong choice of words there , he just needs to register his nick then ask the freenode chat to give him a cloak
[16:29] <gmachine_24> dane999, not to worry. you were trying to help.
[16:29] <Wayward_Vagabond> Who was the asshole that suggested ctrl+z
[16:29] <yofun> hitsujiTMO:  how does one become a member?
[16:29] <gmachine_24> ok. language?
[16:29] <bekks> Wayward_Vagabond: Watch your language please.
[16:29] <hitsujiTMO> BluesKaj_: for an ubuntu cloak?
[16:29] <universal> yofun: you have to register on this irc server
[16:30] <yofun> I am registered
[16:30] <swoorup> hi
[16:30] <bekks> yofun: you dont become a member of freenode, they will ask you if they want you to be a staff member.
[16:30] <IdleOne> !membership > yofun
[16:30] <BluesKaj_> ubuntu cloaks ? , didn't think they existed , hitsujiTMO
[16:31] <bekks> BluesKaj_: They do.
[16:31] <universal> no ubuntu cloaks but server  cloaks
[16:31] <hitsujiTMO> BluesKaj_: yup. for ubuntu members
[16:31] <Wayward_Vagabond> So, let's try this again, ctrl + alt + f2 is having no effect. The keys are working, and tty2 is running. Any ideas why?
[16:32] <BluesKaj_> for ubuntu members ,  it's not really a cloak ..or is it ?
[16:32] <hitsujiTMO> universal: sudo sed -i 's/archive.ubuntu.com\/ubuntu\//mirror.cse.iitk.ac.in\/ubuntu\//' /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:32] <bekks> BluesKaj_: It is really a cloak.
[16:32] <yofun> Is there a lower rank?
[16:32] <bekks> yofun: No.
[16:33] <bekks> yofun: Either you are an Ubuntu member or you arent. You ant get an unaffiliated cloak in #freenode too.
[16:33] <adas> how do I move files that are found using "find" ?
[16:33] <bekks> adas: find ... -exec mv {} ....
[16:34] <yofun> bekks: "member" seems to be staff like I was wondering if there was a user rank or something
[16:34] <bekks> yofun: Freenode member = staff vs. Ubuntu member vs. Freenode user.
[16:35] <demophobia> bekks, ?! is that not an easy thing to do? i'd have thought, given RSS feed technology, it would have been easy to program.
[16:35] <adas> bekks: find /home/adas/apa/ -name *apelsin* -exec mv {} /home/adas/apa/apelsin
[16:35] <adas> ?
[16:35] <yofun> meh
[16:35] <bekks> adas: Nope, that will try to move /home/adas/apa/apelsin to /home/adas/apa/apelsin too.
[16:36] <adas> bekks: find /home/adas/apa/ -name *apelsin* -exec mv {} /home/adas/apa/banan
[16:41] <thewinner> Ã
[16:41] <thewinner> hello
[16:42] <TheFlipside> hey
[16:42] <thewinner> you come from
[16:43] <lazare> Is it possible to install Ubuntu on one device then copy it over to the HD and use it that way?
[16:43] <universal> what is this ---> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/
[16:43] <thewinner> oh
[16:44] <yofun> Seems to be a Forbidden link universal
[16:45] <universal> every directory has the same files and folders, seems like a shortcut to the same directly except its a new folder inside its own
[16:46] <rcw2> working with a virus infected version of windows.  want to seal off that partition and install ubuntu on the drive elsewhere.  is there a way to ensure no spread of the malicious windows?
[16:46] <adas> bekks: find: missing argument to `-exec'
[16:46] <adas> -exec mv
[16:48] <universal> is it possible to keep all the debs and deps pf multiple apps in a single folder and use it as a source ?
[16:48] <universal> of*
[16:49] <imghost> lazare, i think its possible if some how we are able to make exact clone of that hard drive
[16:50] <hitsujiTMO> universal: i beleive thats called a mirror :P but yes. A simple way to generate such is to simply is to do a chroot debootstrap. once in the chroot you can install whatever apps and all related packaged will be in the apt archive
[16:53] <universal> hitsujiTMO: please link it with an explainatory page, and yes I wanna make a mirror,
[16:53] <pip__> hi. How do fglrx drivers work with ubuntu gnome these days?
[16:54] <Tatuus> Hello there, can i report a bug through a screen capture here?
[16:54] <bekks> Tatuus: No, please report it on launchpad.net
[16:55] <Tatuus> screen capt accepted there? i couldn't do anything else to get it up
[16:55] <imghost> pip__, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[16:56] <whatisthematrix> pip__: working good here. but i'm not running 13.10. whether fglrx drivers work good for you might depend upon a few things
[16:56] <hitsujiTMO> universal: this will give you an idea on how to create a chroot enviroment to get the necessary packages: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebootstrapChroot
[16:56] <lazare> !info clonezilla
[16:57] <hitsujiTMO> Tatuus: bug reports are done through launchpad.net
[16:58] <universal> debmirror is good enough for creating a mirror or there is a bettter althernative ? hitsujiTMO
[16:58] <rcw2> working with a virus infected version of windows.  want to seal off that partition and install ubuntu on the drive elsewhere.  is there a way to ensure no spread of the malicious windows?
[16:59] <Wayward_Vagabond> rcw2: don't boot the partition
[16:59] <hitsujiTMO> universal: i havent created mirrors myself, but you can simply use local folders as mirrors if needed
[17:00] <universal> using chroot method ? or alternative methods ?
[17:00] <Wayward_Vagabond> So, nobody knows why a tty is refusing to open from it's keyboard shortcut?
[17:00] <whatisthematrix> rcw2: if it's a just virus and not a rootkit that got installed to your MBR, i'd say just install ubuntu as normal
[17:00] <universal> also how to clean up system like disk cleanup in windows ? hitsujiTMO
[17:00] <hitsujiTMO> universal: the chroot is only a way of selecting the necessary packages.
[17:01] <universal> google is showing deborphan
[17:01] <pip__> whatisthematrix: I heard that there was an issues with the GNOME d.e. - I mayjust try it anyway
[17:01] <bekks> universal: apt-get autoremove
[17:01] <universal> hitsujiTMO: how to use local folders ?
[17:01] <bekks> universal: Be carefully when using it.
[17:01] <universal> hmm
[17:01] <pip__> whatisthematrix: such as?
[17:02] <pip__> oops, sorry, not watching what I'm doing
[17:02] <hitsujiTMO> universal: disk usage analyser is handy for a graphical view of disk usage. from there you can see where data needs to be pruned
[17:03] <whatisthematrix> pip__: hard to say exactly until you try it out. whether fglrx works good might depend on what video card you have. is it a really old video card?
[17:03] <pip__> whatisthematrix: don't think so hd5450
[17:03] <universal> bekks: but apt-get autoremove will only remove the unused debs but what about the tem. files and folders or system temp files and folders etc ?
[17:04] <whatisthematrix> pip__: sounds good, i think
[17:04] <bekks> universal: Unused debs do not have any files installed anymore.
[17:04] <bekks> universal: And the /tmp folder is cleaned up during reboot.
[17:04] <universal> hmm
[17:04] <whatisthematrix> pip__: you do know that after you install it you need to run this command --> sudo aticonfig --initial
[17:05] <whatisthematrix> pip__: and then reboot
[17:05] <universal> so are there no junk files and folders generated like in windows ?
[17:05] <universal> bekks: ^^^
[17:05] <bekks> universal: Correct.
[17:05] <pip__> whatisthematrix: ha, I'd forgotten about that.  I heard bad news about gnome
[17:05] <hitsujiTMO> pip__: do you do much gaming?
[17:05] <whatisthematrix> pip__: like what?
[17:05] <pip__> whatisthematrix: I have a windows rig for that
[17:06] <whatisthematrix> pip__: i think that was meant for hitsujiTMO
[17:06] <hitsujiTMO> pip__: then i'd recommend the readeondriver over fglrx
[17:06] <pip__> whatisthematrix: lol, sure was :)
[17:06] <whatisthematrix> rgr
[17:06] <Wayward_Vagabond> So, is there a way I can force a switch to a tty somehow?
[17:06] <Wayward_Vagabond> Seeing as how the keyboard shortcut isn't working
[17:06] <pip__> hitsujiTMO: game on a windows rig
[17:07] <bekks> Wayward_Vagabond: ctrl alt f1
[17:07] <pip__> hitsujiTMO: this is all to do with a wireless problem actually
[17:07] <universal> thats good but still sounds like I am not asking with correct words or you are not understanding properly, no junk is kinda unbelieveable, there must be something hidding here or there in the deep insides of ubuntu
[17:07] <universal> bekks: ^^^
[17:07] <pip__> hitsujiTMO: sounds odd I know, but...
[17:07] <Wayward_Vagabond> bekks: My ctrl + alt + f# shortcuts aren't working
[17:08] <hitsujiTMO> pip__: o.O hows fglrx related to a wireless problem?
[17:09] <pip__> whatisthematrix: lol, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2157278&highlight=TL-WN751ND this thread
[17:09] <pip__> nuts, done it again
[17:09] <whatisthematrix> pip__: lol
[17:09] <dramon> i am setting a local server at home to connect my android to my ubuntu PC using hostapd and dnsmasq and i get to connect my phone but does not receive o send any date over the internet...is someone there willing to helpme out? i got all the info from here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U59PymP-K6Y
[17:09] <pip__> hitsujiTMO: this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2157278&highlight=TL-WN751ND
[17:10] <pip__> hitsujiTMO: clutching at straws really
[17:10] <andyfied> universal: what's in your Trash?
[17:10] <universal> its empty andyfied
[17:10] <ramm3> is it possible to install ubuntu from within tubuntu on another volume without rebooting?
[17:12] <pip__> whatisthematrix: I don't recall a specific problem with gnome + fglrx, just that they didn't work well together
[17:12] <universal> dramon: install file expert on android and connect your pc, file expert has a built in http ftp ssh samba client server
[17:12] <pip__> whatisthematrix: may even have been prior to 13.10
[17:13] <pip__> gotta put some rice on - brb
[17:13] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[17:17] <dramon> universal, thanks i am going to try it out
[17:17] <bonsu> any programming channel
[17:17] <universal> dramon: if you just want to connect your android to your pc then use hotspot and tethering
[17:18] <dramon> universal, the hotspot dont show on the phone
[17:18] <universal> enable phoone hotspot and not pc hotspot
[17:18] <dramon> universal, did you see the video a fallow the instructions?
[17:19] <dramon> universal, the internet is on the PC
[17:19] <cyberalex4life> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/06/how-to-set-up-wireless-hotspot-access.html
[17:20] <hitsujiTMO> !ics | dramon is this what you are looking for?
[17:20] <cyberalex4life> take a look here
[17:20] <dramon> universal, i am trying to get the internet from the PC creating a virtual router
[17:20] <cyberalex4life> ap-hotspot works for me
[17:21] <cyberalex4life> I usually need it if I want to share 3G Modem connection
[17:21] <cyberalex4life> to android devices
[17:21] <cyberalex4life> you have to configure it with sudo and then run it with sudo
[17:21] <universal> dramon: creating hotspot on pc is a bit tricky and you should try this instead
[17:21] <universal> http://askubuntu.com/questions/180733/how-to-setup-a-wi-fi-hotspot-access-point-mode
[17:21] <dramon> cyberalex4life, i am trying to use my wireless card as a router
[17:22] <jhutchins> dramon: I doubt someone who works from youtube videos will understand this, but this is how you build a router: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/
[17:22] <cyberalex4life> yes kind of router
[17:22] <cyberalex4life> it works
[17:22] <dramon> universal, i did but the phone does not list it
[17:22] <cyberalex4life> with ap-hotspot?
[17:23] <universal> try with the link http://askubuntu.com/questions/180733/how-to-setup-a-wi-fi-hotspot-access-point-mode dramon
[17:23] <cyberalex4life> does it work with the usual method ubuntu provides?
[17:24] <dramon> universal, ok...let me read
[17:24] <dramon> and thanks for the data all of you
[17:24] <dramon> hope you will still there if i need any help
[17:24] <cyberalex4life> there is usually another problem
[17:24] <cyberalex4life> not all wifi adaptpor can do that
[17:25] <dramon> righ
[17:25] <cyberalex4life> you have to be sure your wifi can emulate a router.
[17:25] <cyberalex4life> this happens usually on desktop wifi addapters
[17:26] <cyberalex4life> I am at the seccond laptop and all worked for me
[17:26] <cyberalex4life> anyway
[17:26] <cyberalex4life> I have a small problem too
[17:27] <kkkkk> hi all, i am using ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS and anyone who is using 3g modem to connect to internet, i have huawei 303u modem and on linux mobile partner 21 it is showing E173 and i am not able to do calls from dashboard, anybody who get success in making calls from modem in ubuntu
[17:28] <cyberalex4life> I would like to know if there is a command or something to show the touchpad blocked/enabled indicator
[17:28] <kkkkk> it is showing it is calling and time starts, but no sound after dialing, otherwise laptop sound is working properly
[17:28] <kkkkk> it shows incoming calls but after picking up, no sound again
[17:29] <kkkkk> on windows same modem is working very well,
[17:29] <cyberalex4life> you probably need to do a lot of reasearch for that
[17:29] <kkkkk> why Huawei like company is not thinking about linux community, they should also provide latest drivers to us also
[17:30] <cyberalex4life> probably there's noone's fault here
[17:30] <cyberalex4life> noone on this channel
[17:30] <cyberalex4life> there are not only problems with you huaweii but also with nvidia optimus
[17:31] <kkkkk> In India, Huawei , Micromax are major vendor,  micromax even does not provide drivers for linux
[17:32] <xangua>  cyberalex4lifethere is a touchpad indicator if it helps
[17:32] <kkkkk> i purchased Huawei , because micromax modem suddenly got dead and i had to purchase a new one
[17:33] <cyberalex4life> there are some problems with touchpad indicators on ubuntu 13.10 and on ubuntu 13.10 gnome
[17:33] <xangua> https://launchpad.net/touchpad-indicator cyberalex4life
[17:34] <kkkkk> i did lot of google, but no success , it is showing as E173 but my modem is E303u, it means, there is some problems with drivers
[17:34] <cyberalex4life> the problem is that on gnome-shell the indicator can't shut down touchpad properly
[17:34] <demophobia> I resumed from a locked screen (due to afk) and now my Empathy chat window is greyed out when I select it -- when it greys out, does that mean it's unresponsive?
[17:34] <demophobia> Is that the Ubuntu feature, to grey out a window to indicate a lack of responsivity?
[17:34] <jhutchins> demophobia: Is it responding?
[17:35] <demophobia> Well, no ... but then when I shift to a different window, it un-greys ... and then greys back ... almost like it's flashing with a slow periodicity
[17:35] <cyberalex4life> to properly block touchpad you have to use a gsettings twice,
[17:35] <cyberalex4life> run at 1 sec difference
[17:35] <cyberalex4life> this is how it works for me
[17:36] <cyberalex4life> well the simplest solution is: sudo apt-get install --reinstall empathy
[17:36] <cyberalex4life> after closing it
[17:37] <kkkkk> use pidgin, instead of empathy demophobia
[17:37] <rosenthal> Is it better to use x32 bit or x64 bit. I recently installed ubuntu under an old image and was considering replacing it.
[17:37] <ObrienDave> rosenthal, how much RAM do you have?
[17:37] <rosenthal> ObrienDave 4GB
[17:38] <cyberalex4life> if this doesn't work you may try to delete your user settings folder
[17:38] <rosenthal> ObrienDave cpu speed 3.6ghz
[17:38] <cyberalex4life> I can't seem to find it though
[17:38] <kkkkk> use 64 bit
[17:38] <ObrienDave> rosenthal, you could use either. i recommend 64bit
[17:38] <demophobia> kkkkk, shouldn't I use the default software until it becomes inadequate? why pidgin > empathy?
[17:39] <hitsujiTMO> rosenthal: unless you have like ... 256mb ram, use 64bit
[17:39] <kkkkk> demophobia: many times default softwares sucks,
[17:39] <kkkkk> demophobia: use pidgin it is much better, and stable than empathy
[17:40] <kkkkk> try after a year or two, perhaps it will be improved
[17:40] <ornj> I'm not going to recover from a squashfs error, am I?
[17:40] <rosenthal> Thanks, Also how do I install java. Seemed to be a pain in the but trying it myself
[17:40] <rcw2> whatisthematrix, any thoughts?
[17:40] <kkkkk> rosenthal: which java, oracle or openjdk
[17:41] <hitsujiTMO> ornj: the different methods are documented here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java   its actually relatively straightforward
[17:41] <cyberalex4life> openjdk seemed to have better performance in my case
[17:41] <rosenthal> kkkkk just plain old jre
[17:41] <cyberalex4life> use synaptic
[17:41] <cyberalex4life> select for install default jdk
[17:41] <hitsujiTMO> rosenthal: even: the different methods are documented here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java   its actually relatively straightforward
[17:42] <cyberalex4life> version 7 probably
[17:42] <cyberalex4life> also don't forget about iced tea
[17:42] <hitsujiTMO> !details | ornj
[17:42] <rosenthal> hitsujiTMO Thanks
[17:42] <cyberalex4life> which you need for runing java in browser
[17:43] <kkkkk> hitsujiTMO: can u help me regarding a commmon question, I am not able to do or receive calls from my modem, in ubuntu, i also installed gui for that(Mobile pARTNER but it is old version
[17:43] <ornj> No, I've just been running this liveUSB for like a month, and I think I finally ran out of RAM.
[17:43] <demophobia> thanks
[17:44] <kkkkk> this question has been raised by many many times, but no solution or application exist so far for linux
[17:44] <hitsujiTMO> kkkkk: its been like 10 years since i've used a modem, so i wouldn't be the best of help
[17:44] <ornj> Went to a blogspot page, and Firefox crashed... My desktop bkgd jad gone grey... Tried to launch Thunar and I got these SQUASHFS errors
[17:44] <rosenthal> Also, one more thing while im here, is it worth it to upgrade to the 3.04/3.10 versions of linux?
[17:45] <rosenthal> ubuntu
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> ornj  squashfs is part of the live cd, iirc
[17:45] <hitsujiTMO> ornj: this from a live cd/usb?
[17:45] <ornj> Yes
[17:46] <hitsujiTMO> ornj: most likely the image has become corrupt.
[17:46] <ornj> Tried to Alt-Ctrl-F5 to a different session... Now I have the Xorg arrow superimposed over the error msgs :P
[17:46] <hitsujiTMO> rosenthal: as in upgrade ubuntu 13.04 -> 13.10?
[17:46] <kkkkk> i think many linux users just use ethernet , many of them doesn't use wifi or modems, which are used by normal persons in India, ethernets  plans are costly than wireless plans and they allow us mobility, prepaid, changing of providers and technology is based on mobile worlds, bluetooth also have issues with ubuntu, such kind of less hardware support can only suit servers, where a specific hardwware is used and a specific linux exist for it
[17:47] <rosenthal> hitsujiTMO: I have 12.04 LTS
[17:47] <demophobia> How do I install fonts (e.g. http://levien.com/type/myfonts/inconsolata.html ) in Ubuntu?
[17:47] <demophobia> !font
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> rosenthal  stick to 12.04
[17:48] <kkkkk> linux should also be there for novice user, so that he/she can get his work done, i am not complaining but developers should develop applications from normal user point of view, and more than 90% peoples are still windows users
[17:48] <ikonia> kkkkk: what are you talking about
[17:48] <ikonia> kkkkk: you appear to be just telling a story - this channel is here to offer/give help to people having a problem with ubuntu
[17:48] <ornj> Well, I'm asking if there's any way to salvage data from THIS particular crash... Am fairly sure the liveUSB will boot fine again.
[17:49] <kkkkk> ikonia: i have a wireless modem E303u, it is not working properly in linux
[17:49] <rosenthal> MonkeyDust are there any significant changes?
[17:49] <MonkeyDust> rosenthal  the next lts will soon emerge, 14.04
[17:49] <ikonia> kkkkk: ok, so ask for help stating the problem clearly and see if someone will help you rather than telling the story of how you think linux should work
[17:49] <ornj> Any way to restart Xorg or if this boot is fundamentally b0rked.
[17:49] <kkkkk> it supports voice calls, in windows it is working like  a charm, but on ubuntu it is not working, i also downloaded mobile partner, banged my head for 3 days, calling is not working
[17:49] <rosenthal> MonkeyDust What will it have in it?
[17:50] <ikonia> kkkkk: does the device have linux support ?
[17:50] <hitsujiTMO> rosenthal: if you mean ubuntu upgrade, then stick with lts. best to go lts -> lts. if you mean kernel upgrade then you only need to do a kernel upgrade of you need specific support from a later kernel. so its unlikely that you will gain any benefit from such an upgrade
[17:50] <kkkkk> it shows dialing, time starts, but no sound, it shows incoming calls on dashboard , but no sound
[17:50] <glitsj16> demophobia: fonts-inconsolata should be in your repos
[17:50] <kkkkk> yes, device has linux support
[17:50] <TJ-> kkkkk: See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2008275
[17:50] <kkkkk> i have drivers for that
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> rosenthal  not sure, guess it's too soon to say
[17:50] <hitsujiTMO> ornj: you could restart the lightdm service
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> too early*
[17:51] <kkkkk> default drivers given in modem itself,  ozerocd feature i think, something like that
[17:51] <kkkkk> TJ- let me see
[17:51] <rosenthal> hitsujiTMO MonkeyDust Thanks, You give much help!
[17:51] <ornj> hitsujiTWO>> Howzzat?
[17:51] <ikonia> kkkkk: how do you know it has linux support
[17:51] <hitsujiTMO> ornj: sudo service lightdm restart
[17:51] <kkkkk> ikonia: wait a minute, let me give u the link
[17:52] <ikonia> super
[17:52] <kkkkk> ikonia: http://www.huaweidevice.co.in/Products/MobileBroadband/compare-data-cards.php
[17:52] <Depressed> ikonia, no
[17:52] <kkkkk> E303U has linux drivers support
[17:52] <ikonia> Depressed: no what ?
[17:52] <ornj> uh, That presupposes a command prompt, does it not?
[17:52] <kkkkk> has voice calling also
[17:53] <ikonia> kkkkk: just reading, wont be a moment or two
[17:53] <hitsujiTMO> ornj: a terminal, yes.
[17:53] <ornj> hitsujiTWO: I would love me one of those right about now.
[17:54] <hitsujiTMO> ornj: ctrl + alt + f1
[17:55] <ornj> Yes, that, so far, produces no response, as neither did Ctrl-Alt-Bksp.
[17:55] <hitsujiTMO> ornj: seems like you'd need a hard reboot to get anywhere then :(
[17:56] <kkkkk> ikonia: already done that solution, link given by TJ-
[17:56] <ikonia> im still reading
[17:56] <ornj> All I got for my troubles trying to switch between F1 and F7 was the XWindows cursor arrow superimposed on my error msg chunk.
[17:57] <TJ-> kkkkk: which functionality is missing? Does the device show up to Network Manager?
[17:57] <ornj> ok, inf0 go bye-bye
[17:58] <ornj> i sad panda
[17:58] <kkkkk> TJ: NO,in the network manager, now it shows as ethernet device not mobile broadband, i connect to internet using dashboard
[17:58] <kkkkk> Huawei dashboard
[17:58] <kkkkk> only calling functionality is missing
[17:59] <ikonia> the dashboard app doesnt appear to have linux support
[17:59] <ikonia> the linux drivers are not full functionality
[17:59] <ikonia> just reading about it now
[17:59] <kkkkk> it shows incoming calls, rings bells, but after picking up, no sound, only balance get deducted, it can also do calls, but no sound from either end
[17:59] <kkkkk> ikonia: dashboard is of linux, mobile partner 21
[17:59] <TJ-> kkkkk: You know you can use usb_modeswitch to flick it into serial port mode?
[18:00] <ikonia> kkkkk: have you actually talked to  Huawei ?
[18:00] <kkkkk> TJ- i am not a linux expert, i just followed instruction given in the modem;s file and on the net
[18:00] <ikonia> kkkkk: if you think it should be supported more, have you spoken to them to find out what is actually supported
[18:00] <ikonia> as looking through the docs - it's not fully functionality supported in linux
[18:01] <ikonia> you need to swap between ethernet (internet) and serial (modem) modes
[18:01] <kkkkk> ikonia: yes, i talked to them, they told me to reinstall, some mad guys with no technical knowledge like me
[18:01] <ikonia> kkkkk: reading the docs on it now, there isn't full support, but using the correct modes should give better results
[18:02] <kkkkk> ikonia: i reinstalled but no luck, all things are working like sms, ussd, contacts etc
[18:02] <kkkkk> only calling is missing
[18:02] <kkkkk> i have also sent them email, no answer so far
[18:02] <TJ-> ikonia: It, like many of the Huawei devices, is a multi-mode USB device. It starts in USB CDROM mode, then usb_modeswitch is used to flick it over to either a cdc_ether (ethernet) or serial port (AT modem) ... but there are subtle differences between the sub-models and many variations of those
[18:03] <ikonia> TJ-: yes, that ties in with the docs I'm reading at the moment
[18:03] <kkkkk> ikonia: it does the same
[18:03] <TJ-> kkkkk: ikonia I have hacked my E3131 for similar reasons
[18:03] <TJ-> kkkkk: ikonia I began documenting my research but not had chance to complete the work as yet: http://tjworld.net/wiki/Huawei/E3131UsbHspa
[18:04] <whatisthematrix> haxz0rs!
[18:05] <bob876> Hi. My computer is randomly rebooting and I'm not sure how to go about finding the problem. But here's the twist: I'm running fedora 20 ;)
[18:05] <kkkkk1> TJ-: on lsusb i have seen, it changes it ID from 12d1:1446 to 12d1:140c something
[18:05] <m1dnight> does anybody know where I can find the .sh file that executes a service? (my transmission-daemon service to be exact)
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> bob876  better ask in the fedora channel
[18:05] <m1dnight> the one that gets run automatically
[18:05] <demophobia> glitsj16, thank you, but I don't know how to use the repository to install fonts ... I guess I'll open the Ubuntu Software Center and search for it ...
[18:05] <kkkkk1> sorry, connection lost, if u did some message to me, 2 minutes before, please post it again
[18:06] <demophobia> indeed, i guess it is that easy to install.
[18:06] <TJ-> kkkkk1: I began documenting my research but not had chance to complete the work as yet: http://tjworld.net/wiki/Huawei/E3131UsbHspa
[18:06] <demophobia> thanks glitsj16
[18:06] <MonkeyDust> bob876  type /join #fedora
[18:06] <glitsj16> demophobia: yw
[18:06] <toad_> hello
[18:08] <kkkkk1> tj- which modem is supposed to work with voice calling in ubuntu, i can replace the same with my online sales, it is just of 1 day old
[18:09] <toad_> is anyone familiar with a successful way to sync Iphone 4s ( iso 7.04 ) to ubuntu 13.10. everything i have read is all doom and gloom
[18:09] <rcw2> have a copy of windows with many viruses.  i'd like to seal off that partition and not have the malicious code affect ubuntu.   so i ensure the mbr/boot sector is clean and then im good to go?  but won't ubuntu try and automatically mount the partition once ubuntu is installed?  any thoughts?
[18:09] <ikonia> toad_: doesn't work
[18:09] <bob876> I figured that linux distros have similar ways to find the source of a problem so someone here could also help do something generic
[18:09] <ikonia> rcw2: the code won't touch ubuntu
[18:09] <ikonia> bob876: sorry - we only support Ubuntu here, #fedora will help you
[18:09] <hitsujiTMO> m1dnight: /etc/init.d
[18:10] <toad_> drat ikonia
[18:10] <glitsj16> m1dnight: you should have that in /etc/init.d .. you can try to start it by running sudo service transmission-daemon start
[18:10] <cameron_> hello can anyone help me my skype sound doesnt work sometimes and then it does again
[18:10] <rcw2> ikonia, even if ubuntu mounts the windows filesystem?
[18:10] <ikonia> rcw2: correct
[18:12] <whatisthematrix> rcw2: a virus made for/targeted at windows shouldn't effect gnu/linux
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> and can't
[18:13] <whatisthematrix> rgr that MonkeyDust
[18:13] <whatisthematrix> rcw2: a virus made for/targeted at windows can't* effect gnu/linux
[18:14] <cameron_> hello can anyone help me my skype sound doesnt work sometimes and then it does again?
[18:16] <whatisthematrix> rcw2: even if you mount a windows partition from ubuntu you'll be okay. in fact, many people have done so after getting a virus in windows to retrieve data from their windows partitions and/or to try to find and delete the virus
[18:16] <cameron_> could anyone answer me atleast?
[18:16] <ikonia> last bob876
[18:16] <hitsujiTMO> !patience | cameron_
[18:16] <ObrienDave> !patience | cameron_
[18:17] <ObrienDave> lol
[18:17] <swoorup> cameron: how many sound devices do you have?
[18:17] <whatisthematrix> lol
[18:17] <whatisthematrix> he's gone
[18:17] <ObrienDave> geez louise
[18:17] <swoorup> !patience | swoorup
[18:17] <hitsujiTMO> well, some people have no patience it seems :(
[18:17] <m1dnight> glitsj16: hitsujiTMO I found the file there indeed, thanks :)
[18:17] <demophobia> is there only one monospace font allowed at a time, and by installing inconsolata, i've just overridden whatever the default monospace font was?
[18:18] <hitsujiTMO> demophobia: nope you can install as many as you want
[18:19] <demophobia> i'm looking at xchat preferences for setting language and i can't find where i have a choice ... just says 'family: monospace" ...
[18:19] <ObrienDave> demophobia, i have hundreds of fonts installed ;P
[18:19] <demophobia> thank you
[18:19] <whatisthematrix> !info font-manager
[18:19] <hitsujiTMO> demonspork: is there not a browse button beside that text?
[18:20] <hitsujiTMO> demophobia: : is there not a browse button beside that text?
[18:21] <FannyChmelar6803> !list
[18:21] <FannyChmelar6803> thanks
[18:21] <aFeijo> I added a line to mount my www.box.com account using webdav, when I boot the server it asks for user and password, but it wont go thru it and the server never finish booting!!!
[18:24] <toad_> ty for your input ikonia . take care folks
[18:24] <logabr> I have a computer with a network card that i need to build the driver for. I'm unable to connect to the net to get build-essentials on that computer. Is there a way to download the packages in build-essential as debs to install locally?
[18:24] <logabr> using 12.04 on the offline system
[18:24] <bekks> How can I make a service being executed at boot/shutdown on Ubuntu 12.04? Manually running "service name start/stop" works as a charm, but it should be executed on boot/shutdown, too.
[18:24] <OerHeks> !offline
[18:24] <hitsujiTMO> aFeijo: where did you add the line? fstab?
[18:25] <aFeijo> hitsujiTMO, yes, and its a remove VPS, I dont have much access to the box
[18:25] <whatisthematrix> logabr: you could download .debs to a usb stick or something.
[18:25] <aFeijo> *remote
[18:25] <OerHeks> i would choose aptoncd
[18:25] <hitsujiTMO> aFeijo: most vps providers have a recovery image you can use to fix the issue
[18:25] <logabr> where can i find the list of debs that i will need? When i try to apt-get install them on the offline system it doesn't echo them out, it just tells me it cannot find them
[18:26] <aFeijo> hitsujiTMO, its a new VPS, I created it 6 days ago, no snapshot and if I had a new one, it would have the fstab change already :(
[18:26] <whatisthematrix> logabr: packages.ubuntu.com might help
[18:27] <hitsujiTMO> aFeijo: not saying a snapshot. i mean a recovery style iso, that allows you to ssh to a live cd and mount your filesystem to edit the fstab
[18:27] <aFeijo> I found a recovery mode, hold on
[18:27] <hitsujiTMO> aFeijo: check your hosting panel for such an option
[18:27] <logabr> gotcha, thanks
[18:28] <whatisthematrix> logabr: you're welcome.. here's the actual page for saucy. http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/build-essential
[18:28] <TJ-> bekks: "man update-rc.d"
[18:29] <TJ-> bekks: If you have, or create, a sysvinit script in /etc/init.d/, you can add it to the startup ... template startup scripts are available to use as a basis if needed
[18:29] <bekks> TJ-: Thats what I've already done, and the service isnt executed on boot/shutdown. I ran "update-rc.d name defaults" along with "update-rc.d name enable".
[18:30] <bekks> TJ-: The script is already there, it works fine on manual invocation, and even using update-rc.d doesnt change the fact that it isnt executed.
[18:31] <TJ-> bekks: The script is executable? Does it have a shebang line? Is it making use of bash constructs but using sh (dash) ?
[18:32] <hitsujiTMO> bekks is it an upstart or sysv service?
[18:32] <bekks> TJ-: Yes. Yes. No. sysv.
[18:32] <TJ-> bekks: Have you added debug printing to a log-file to track where it gets to if it is partially exectuted?
[18:32] <aFeijo> hitsujiTMO, found the recovery mode, now the vnc console shows a prompt with (initramfs), what can I do with it?
[18:33] <TJ-> bekks: In that situation I add some "echo ' doing X' >> /tmp/script.log" lines to track where it gets to
[18:33] <hitsujiTMO> aFeijo: cd /etc
[18:33] <hitsujiTMO> aFeijo: any error on that?
[18:33] <aFeijo> I dont have the / key ! lol
[18:33] <aFeijo> but with mount it said cant reat /etc/fstab
[18:34] <aFeijo> ok, cd /etc worked
[18:34] <TJ-> bekks: Does it depend on another service that hasn't started at that point?
[18:34] <aFeijo> no fstab present
[18:35] <ikonia> you have a massive problem then
[18:35] <whatisthematrix> ya
[18:36] <aFeijo> argh!
[18:36] <hitsujiTMO> aFeijo: you may need to mount the partition then. you should check the hosting providers documentation for their device scheme. It may not simply be /dev/sdaX but could be a /dev/mapper or anything
[18:37] <bekks> TJ-: No, it is a local service just depending on a kernel module beiong loaded.
[18:37] <aFeijo> I dont have /dev/sd* but I have /dev/mapper/control
[18:37] <axisys> how do I scan over the wifi? scanner ip is 192.168.1.170 and I can ping it
[18:38] <ikonia> axisys: they normally have a web interface
[18:38] <hitsujiTMO> aFeijo: your hosting provider should have it documented somewhere. check their support section
[18:38] <axisys> simplescan says no scanner detected
[18:38] <axisys> ikonia: ^
[18:38] <ikonia> axisys: how does that have anything to do with what I just said ?
[18:39] <axisys> ikonia: yep, I see the web portal
[18:40] <bekks> TJ-: I'll try the echo approach
[18:40] <axisys> ikonia: it says webscan disabled .. hmm.
[18:43] <Guest82524> Hello everyone how's it going? Is Thunderbird mail safe? Are there any benefits to it? I linked my email account to it and it seems ok but I need to know if it's safe
[18:44] <ramm3> How can I add a dual monitor? It would only mirror it but when I try to expand the desktop it says the requested size is outside the allowed limit.
[18:44] <Ozera> installed ubuntu server 12.04, but I don't know how to login into it >.> It says 'Ozera login:
[18:44] <Ozera> but that isn;t for the password...
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> axisys  i had that too, installed VueScan from their website... works, but it's commercial and adds a watermark if you don't buy it
[18:46] <dougl> I have a portable 1TB usb hard drive with hpfs+ file system that gets mounted in read only mode and I cannot change to r/w in spite for my google education any suggestions?
[18:49] <hitsujiTMO> ramm3: what gpu do you have?
[18:50] <axisys> i have hp officejet 4620 e-all-in-one
[18:50] <cdunn700> hello can anyone help me with my skype problem where my sound doesnt work at all
[18:50] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: for hpfs you must disable journaling on the filesystem while in osx before you can mount it in ubuntu as rw. Also not that doing such a thing is not recommended
[18:50] <axisys> so going to web address 192.168.1.170 I can scan.. but how do I make it work with simplescan
[18:50] <axisys> I do not see an option for ip address
[18:52] <cdunn700> can anyone help me
[18:55] <cdunn700> can anyone help me with my skype issue
[18:56] <ChickenBrain> cdunn700: does sound work for other things?
[18:56] <cdunn700> yes
[18:56] <ChickenBrain> and you are using pulse?
[18:56] <cdunn700> i have no idea
[18:56] <cdunn700> how can i check
[18:56] <trisquel> Haha, this  package puts me, a Trisquel user, on #ubuntu.  Such is the life of upstream software.
[18:56] <ChickenBrain> skype -> options -> audio
[18:57] <cdunn700> ye
[18:57] <cdunn700> i chose my graphics card
[18:57] <cdunn700> nd hdmi out put
[18:57] <ChickenBrain> ??
[18:57] <cdunn700> etc
[18:57] <ChickenBrain> that is video, not audio
[18:57] <cdunn700> my hdmi is the audio aswell
[18:58] <cdunn700> my skype wont start hold on let me restart my computer
[18:59] <trisquel> What's the point of mixing proprietary software with free software?
[18:59] <hitsujiTMO> !behelpful | trisquel
[19:00] <aFeijo> hmm I think I found something
[19:00] <zh1> what application do i need to open run files via gui on ubuntu 13.10?
[19:00] <whatisthematrix> trisquel: well i use fglrx drivers to get full video hardware acceleration, for compositing, opengl screensavers, games, etc
[19:01] <cdunn700> ok im back
[19:01] <mbroeker> zh1, right click the application, mark it as executable and start it as an ordinary application :)
[19:01] <cdunn700> @chickenbrain are you there?
[19:01] <ChickenBrain> not starting skype is a different problem than no sound :)
[19:01] <zh1> mbroeker it doesnt run
[19:02] <cdunn700> skype works now
[19:02] <ChickenBrain> including audio?
[19:02] <mbroeker> zh1, do you use unity?
[19:02] <cdunn700> let me check
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> axisys  this page mention kismet and rutilt... is it useful, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=855403
[19:02] <cdunn700> works now
[19:02] <cdunn700> i dont know why
[19:02] <hitsujiTMO> zh1: it may need to be run from the terminal
[19:02] <ChickenBrain> under audio settings you should see PulseAUdio server (local)
[19:02] <trisquel> whatisthematrix: Temporary driver support is understandable; I get it.  What about Skype?
[19:02] <ChickenBrain> ok.... magic thoughts
[19:02] <zh1> mbroeker yes, what application open the run file?
[19:02] <cdunn700> i cant see audio settings
[19:03] <hitsujiTMO> trisquel: how else do you communicate with other skype users?
[19:03] <mbroeker> zh1, press the start button in unity, the dash opens and enter there: terminal
[19:03] <cdunn700> i have sound devices but no pulse
[19:03] <zh1> hitsujiTMO, on debian it opens directly so here should be the same no?
[19:03] <mbroeker> zh1, click the black terminal window and start the application in this terminal
[19:03] <axisys> MonkeyDust: let me check.. thanks
[19:03] <whatisthematrix> trisquel: well, since i don't use it i suppose it might be harder for me to answer. but what if some folks you know use skype and you want to get on with them?
[19:04] <mbroeker> zh1, the application might terminate with a useful error message
[19:04] <aFeijo> hitsujiTMO, ok I found it, its /dev/vda, how can I mount it?
[19:04] <zh1> mbroeker i know how to open on terminal, but i would like to open via gui because on debian works
[19:04] <hitsujiTMO> zh1: it depends on what exactly it is. might be missing a lib or anything. run in a terminal for a more verbose output
[19:04] <whatisthematrix> trisquel: what hitsujiTMO said.. is pretty much what i was asking as well ;-)
[19:04] <hitsujiTMO> aFeijo: mkdir /mnt/root
[19:05] <aFeijo> ok
[19:05] <hitsujiTMO> aFeijo: mount /dev/vda /mnt/root
[19:05] <zh1> done
[19:05] <hitsujiTMO> aFeijo: vi /mnt/root/etc/fstab
[19:05] <zh1> i dont know what debian uses but it open right at start on ubuntu no, is it because of the file?
[19:06] <aFeijo> hitsujiTMO, it mounted! I see fstab, but I dont have vi
[19:06] <aFeijo> omg, so close...
[19:06] <hitsujiTMO> aFeijo: /mnt/root/usr/bin/nano /mnt/root/etc/fstab
[19:07] <StephenS> Which players can play blueray 3d movie on ubuntu?
[19:08] <hitsujiTMO> !bluray | StephenS
[19:08] <aFeijo> hitsujiTMO, nano not found? weird
[19:08] <whatisthematrix> StephenS: none that i know of. you have to use a software called MakeMKV, iirc
[19:08] <hitsujiTMO> aFeijo: /mnt/root/usr/bin/vi /mnt/root/etc/fstab
[19:08] <aFeijo> hitsujiTMO, same problem, wth? no editor!
[19:09] <whatisthematrix> aFeijo: are you just wanting to view it's contents atm?
[19:09] <StephenS> whatisthematrix: so I need mkv to watch 3d?
[19:09] <hitsujiTMO> aFeijo: /usr/bin/vi /mnt/root/etc/fstab
[19:09] <aFeijo> whatisthematrix, no, I want to remove the last line of fstab
[19:09] <whatisthematrix> StephenS: for a blu-ray, yes
[19:09] <whatisthematrix> aFeijo: roger
[19:09] <StephenS> mp4 is not blueray?
[19:09] <hitsujiTMO> aFeijo: they're prob symlinks. lets see if the recovery image has vi
[19:09] <aFeijo> has not
[19:09] <rcw2> what's the best way to introduce windows drivers into ubuntu
[19:10] <aFeijo> recovery image has no /usr folder
[19:10] <bekks> rcw2: Which drivers in particular?
[19:10] <MonkeyDust> rcw2  maybe there's a different solution for whatever your issue is, start from the beginning
[19:11] <whatisthematrix> StephenS: not long ago, i purchased the movie Oblivion blu-ray/dvd. i had to download MakeMKV and let it rip it to my hard drive. the file it creates was about 25 GB, and viewable with vlc media player or what have you
[19:11] <hitsujiTMO> aFeijo: /mnt/root/usr/bin/vim.tiny /mnt/root/etc/fstab
[19:11] <victor__> Hi. When I type "ls -l" into the terminal, the month is displayed in Russian. The Ubuntu calender (when clicking the time) is in Russian, too. The rest of Ubuntu is in English. How can I change this to English?
[19:11] <ABC-XYZ> iirc only encrypted commercial blu-ray's are a problem
[19:11] <mikodo> I am thinking of mounting an internal partition say .. (/dev/sda5) and editing Fstab to automount it. Which is the better place to mount to it? /mnt or /media  or does it matter?
[19:11] <aFeijo> hitsujiTMO, I did try that, it show an error loading libinfo.so
[19:11] <aFeijo> libtinfo.so
[19:11] <bekks> mikodo: Manual mounts, including /etc/fstab, should never go to /media since /media is used by the automounter.
[19:11] <gvo> mikodo: no
[19:12] <axisys> MonkeyDust: that is actually wifi scan.. I am trying to scan a document. My hp all-in-one already has a IP over wifi . I need to point my laptop to that IP before requesting scan.. unless hplip can find it.. installing latest hplip now
[19:12] <MonkeyDust> victor__  system settings > language > regional formats
[19:12] <hitsujiTMO> aFeijo: mount --bind /dev /mnt/root/dev
[19:12] <victor__> thank you!
[19:12] <hitsujiTMO> aFeijo: mount --bind /sys /mnt/root/sys
[19:12] <gvo> mikodo: Followup make a directory in media to mount on, if you want to use /media
[19:12] <bekks> TJ-: Thanks for your suggestion, I got that script working now :)
[19:12] <whatisthematrix> StephenS: since i got the blu-ray/dvd box, i could have just watched the dvd. but i insisted on finding out how to watch the blu-ray. and that is what i discovered
[19:12] <hitsujiTMO> aFeijo: mount -t proc none /mnt/root/proc
[19:12] <mikodo> bekks, Ok not /media ... could I use /mnt/
[19:13] <hitsujiTMO> aFeijo: chroot /mnt/root
[19:13] <MonkeyDust> axisys  yes, but it's a wireless scanner, no?
[19:13] <StephenS> whatisthematrix: ok
[19:13] <axisys> MonkeyDust: yes, wireless hp all-in-one, so scanner/printer/fax
[19:13] <aFeijo> chroot failed
[19:13] <hitsujiTMO> really? grr
[19:14] <axisys> i can scan by going to the IP from my browser
[19:14] <aFeijo> but vi opened!!!
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> axisys  ok, the idea was, to help find the scanner
[19:14] <trisquel> whatisthematrix: I would write or call them, rather than use Skype, and I would try to explain to them why I refuse to use it.
[19:14] <bekks> mikodo: yes.
[19:14] <mikodo> bekks, Gotcha! Thanks a bunch guys!
[19:14] <whatisthematrix> StephenS: http://www.makemkv.com/
[19:14] <aFeijo> DONE!!! fstab changed
[19:14] <aFeijo> omg
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> axisys  and you want an application that handles wifi?
[19:14] <aFeijo> now I need to go back to my original kernel, right?
[19:15] <hitsujiTMO> aFeijo: yup
[19:15] <whatisthematrix> trisquel: rgr. that is your choice. and that's what matters in life in a big way, choice
[19:15] <Guest82524> Hello everyone how's it going? Is Thunderbird mail safe? Are there any benefits to it? I linked my email account to it and it seems ok but I need to know if it's safe
[19:16] <trisquel> whatisthematrix: It is painful, but it is less painful than relying on something that is so disrespectful to BSD users as to require them to use emulation because, for some reason, el software no es libre, and can't be built natively to run right.
[19:16] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | trisquel
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> Guest82524  how can a mail client be unsafe?
[19:17] <Guest82524> MonkeyDust,  not sure i'm new to all of this
[19:17] <MonkeyDust> Guest82524  what is "all this"?
[19:17] <StephenS> whatisthematrix: ok so when I get mkv, I can play it via vlc? Also my graphic card is ati radeon hd 6500 and have 3d support, so can I watch 3d? I just need shades?>
[19:17] <Guest82524> MonkeyDust, Linux in general
[19:18] <MonkeyDust> Guest82524  ah, there's no malware for ubuntu
[19:18] <whatisthematrix> hitsujiTMO: man, that's some serious stuff you know there! wow. nice
[19:19] <TJ-> axisys: Does the HP all-in-one have an ethernet wired interface? If so, if you connect the printer up via that can your PC's SANE "add-scanner" find it?
[19:20] <TJ-> axisys: I had to recently install the hplip and supporting libraries version 3.13.9 in order to get the PC to find an HP Officejet 7610
[19:20] <axisys> actually with hplip latest .. it is working with simplescan now.. hplip 3.13.11 let me manually add the IP..
[19:20] <axisys> TJ-: ^
[19:20] <whatisthematrix> StephenS: it will rip a file to your hard drive. it will be viewable. 3d video? i don't know much of anything about that. but if the video is in 3d, i reckon the ripped file will be in 3d. it makes a very large file, like 25 GB
[19:20] <axisys> TJ-: thanks!
[19:20] <Rampion> can somebody tell me my ip?
[19:21] <Calinou> Rampion, 184.154.116.157
[19:21] <Calinou> it's in /whois Rampion
[19:21] <jstnc> curl icanhazip.com
[19:21] <aFeijo> hitsujiTMO, I saved all the commands you showed to me and I shall post it in a forum so others can find the solution :)
[19:21] <whatisthematrix> StephenS: as the web page says, it'll make an mkv file. you can then convert that into some other format if you want
[19:22] <aFeijo> hitsujiTMO, do you mind if I PM you the commands to be sure I didnt missed any?
[19:22] <TJ-> Rampion: From the command line: "wget -qO- http://ipecho.net/plain ; echo"
[19:23] <Rampion> Calinou: why your ip is not in the whois?
[19:23] <whatisthematrix> StephenS: as i recall, i played the mkv movie file in vlc media player, yes
[19:24] <whatisthematrix> StephenS: this wasn't to long ago, but i wiped that version of ubuntu and installed trusty/testing. i didn't save the file so i would need to do it again to be absolutely certain i recall correctly
[19:24] <whatisthematrix> StephenS: this was a couple of months ago
[19:25] <StephenS> ok
[19:25] <whatisthematrix> StephenS: all i can say is if you get MakeMKV i'm pretty certain you'll be able to  play the movie with no problem
[19:25] <whatisthematrix> StephenS: okay. good luck. cheers
[19:25] <StephenS> ok but I don't have glasses whatisthematrix
[19:26] <whatisthematrix> StephenS: you'll be able to play the movie as long as you have plenty of hard drive space, i should say
[19:26] <whatisthematrix> StephenS: i can't help with the no glasses thing, of course
[19:27] <StephenS> yeah I know
[19:27] <whatisthematrix> ok
[19:28] <xreal> How can I convert tar.gz to zip using pipe only?
[19:29]  * whatisthematrix goes to plug i external  blu-ray drive and download makemkv
[19:29]  * whatisthematrix goes to plug in* external blu-ray drive and download makemkv
[19:29] <aFeijo> time to go... thanks again for all those that helped me
[19:29] <gvo> xreal don't spam multiple channels with the same question
[19:35] <kongthap> i installed xp and ubuntu 13.04, i always have error mounting /tmp after switching from windows booting, i must press F to fix error, sometime have to run into fsck, what's wrong about my system???
[19:38] <Bashing-om> kongtha: Are you hibernating Windows, rather than doing a complete shut sown, such that windows still has control of the hard ware ?
[19:38] <demophobia> How do I tell whether Rhythmbox is actively extracting the CD? I clicked "Extract" and the drive began spinning faster, but I see no change visually.
[19:39] <Bashing-om> kongthap sown -- down*
[19:40] <Ozera> Can anyone tell me how to install grsecurity for ubuntu server 12.04?
[19:43] <jrib> How can I see ext4lazyinit progress and how long it will take to finish?
[19:46] <hitsujiTMO> whatisthematrix: lol, ty. sorry for the delayed reply. was stuffing my face
[19:46] <daniell> hey there, I'd like to install ubuntu on a new machine containing a Celeron G1620 and this motherboard: http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/322352/msi-h61m-p31-w8/specificaties/   Will I be able to attach two VGA monitors, one on the VGA plug and one on the DVI plug with a VGA adapter plug/cable?
[19:46] <whatisthematrix> hitsujiTMO: np... great stuff :-)
[19:46] <daniell> IIRC DVI can also put analog signals on the cable
[19:47] <Deisso> I am back
[19:47] <Deisso> I need help again
[19:47] <hitsujiTMO> daniell: don't see why not
[19:47] <WarriorIng64> Hi, I have a question. I'm performing my first kernel bisection for LP#1251441, and I'm not sure how to find the midpoint kernel to begin the kernel bisection at. Can someone point me in the right direction?
[19:48] <media> irc://irc.Abjects.net/beast-xdcc
[19:48] <noideas> Does anyone use smartmontools?
[19:49] <bekks> noideas: I bet people do.
[19:49] <bekks> !anyone | noideas
[19:49] <OerHeks> bad url, media
[19:50] <noideas> If I want to setup smartmontools to send and email to an external account how, is there a guide to help me understand the configuration?
[19:50] <noideas> external email account**
[19:51] <hitsujiTMO> noideas: how many hdds are you dealing with?
[19:52] <noideas> 2-3
[19:52] <noideas> personal use
[19:52] <hitsujiTMO> hmm. a lot of effort for such a simple thing :P
[19:53] <noideas> well im usually pretty busy but like to keep certain resources available as promised
[19:54] <hitsujiTMO> noideas: any good to you? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/434683/receiving-email-notification-from-smartd-smartmontools
[19:55] <Sia-> hi, it's any good driver for this graphic card available http://paste.ubuntu.com/6658771/
[19:55] <demophobia> Isn't there a way to submit CD information prior to copying a CD that comes up as "untitled" etc, for Rhythmbox?
[19:55] <demophobia> I thought it used MusicBrainz and there was a 'submit cd info' option, but I don't see it in the Menu bar or anywhere in the program.
[19:57] <noideas> hitsujiTMO: I have run across a similar post; the question I ask now is the email account added to that line...Does it have the ability to email to something like a gogle account or just the local domain?
[19:58] <demophobia> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+question/168879 implies this did used to be the case, regarding Rhythmbox and adding to the knowledge database in identifying CDs.
[19:58] <hitsujiTMO> noideas: it sends to that email. requires an mtu needs to be installed. like postfix or sendmail
[19:58] <Sia-> i have this graphic card and everything work fine, just after suspend/resume i'm geting just blank screen. system is 12.4
[19:58] <Sia->  Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[19:59] <_5andr0> http://askubuntu.com/questions/396804/rtl8111-8168b-rev-06-ethernet-controller-not-working-with-ubuntu-12-04-03-13-1   still need help :/ offering money/btc for a solution
[19:59] <noideas> hitsujiTMO: Awesome, which is easiest to configure? In your opinion.
[20:00] <demophobia> I don't see how to open sound juicer, either, if that's the way to add CD info to Rhythmbox's identifying database.
[20:01] <hitsujiTMO> noideas: either should work immediately without any real configuration. but anymail sent will go immeditately to spam folder.
[20:01] <Bashing-om> Sia-: Better info ->sudo lshw -C display , lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga <- | pastie
[20:01] <noideas> hitsujiTMO: Thanks, and noted.
[20:01] <hitsujiTMO> noideas: postfix is the recommended one to use these days
[20:03] <vik> anyone here ?
[20:03] <Sia-> Bashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6658813/
[20:04] <jamesaxl> vik: just ask
[20:04] <vik> my unity dosent load . . . only wallpaper is displayed
[20:05] <vik> tried enabling unity plugin in ccsm . but no gain :(
[20:06] <Bashing-om> Sia-: My last was for 2 separate commands, not as one line, please try again.
[20:06] <themusicgod1> When I try to boot a 3.12 image (wubi), I get 'serious errors were found while checking the disk drive for /' screen.  fsck & smart seem to indicate the drive/fs is OK, windows chkdsk similarly for the drive.  3.11.* boots "fine".  I drop to maintenance shell and it gives me ro access to the drive, so nothing is no logs from whatever is causing this.   I've made sure the time on bios is set properly and that the wubi root image e
[20:06] <vik> can any one provide solution . i am stuck up with it for 2 hrs
[20:06] <Sia-> vik, yes
[20:07] <Calinou> themusicgod1, wubi is not supported
[20:07] <vik> Sia: do u know
[20:08] <Sia-> vik, ok what's your problem?
[20:08] <vik> unity dosent load . only wallpaper is displayed
[20:09] <vik> tried enabling unity plugin in ccsm . but dosent work
[20:09] <themusicgod1> Calinou: noted, thanks
[20:09] <hitsujiTMO> vik: what lead to the situation? were you playing around with settings in ccsm?
[20:09] <Calinou> was that sarcasm? :P
[20:10] <Calinou> anyway, use a real install, or if you want to try it around without needing speed, VirtualBox
[20:11] <SonikkuAmerica> Another dumb question: I suppose I can run a batch [ dpkg -i ] install operation from the CLI?
[20:11] <hitsujiTMO> SonikkuAmerica: sudo dpkg -i *                           as an example :P
[20:12] <vik> hitsujiTMO : i was setting up chef in ubuntu . and suddenly this came " Starting DM display Manager" with black screen
[20:12] <SonikkuAmerica> hitsujiTMO: So that's how I'd install all the .deb packages in a specific directory. Good to know.
[20:13] <Mitchell92> Hi... I heard about ubuntu being supported on tablets... I've got a Nexus 7, I saw a video online in regard to it... Is it stable enough for general use? I'd love to get more functionality and usability from my nexus 7.
[20:13] <hitsujiTMO> vik: seems like it forced the dm to restart. have you rebooted since?
[20:13] <vik> hitsujiTMO: then i searched in forums for solution . And they told enable unity plugin from ccsm
[20:14] <vik> ya rebooted
[20:14] <hitsujiTMO> Mitchell92: #ubuntu-touch
[20:14] <Mitchell92> thanks
[20:14] <hitsujiTMO> vik: what version of ubuntu?
[20:14] <vik> 13.04
[20:14] <Bashing-om> Sia-: Did you see my 14:06 entry ?
[20:15] <vik> i followed this tutorial http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears
[20:15] <hitsujiTMO> vik: try resetting unity: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[20:16] <Sia-> Bashing-om, what's wrong with a command last line?
[20:16] <masoudzc> hi to everyone
[20:16] <hitsujiTMO> Bashing-om: we're not all in the same timezone :P
[20:16] <masoudzc> im new on ubuntu
[20:17] <masoudzc> but i love Ubuntu linux
[20:17] <masoudzc> i hate microsoft
[20:17] <Sia-> Bashing-om, her http://paste.ubuntu.com/6658881/
[20:17] <Bashing-om> Sia-: As submitted to the pastebin, the commnad was invalid, please try again, as the ',' is a sepaerator between the 2 commands.
[20:18] <sors> this flash is killing me it bogs down or crashes firefox is there a solution
[20:18] <ObrienDave> sors, install and use Chrome
[20:19] <hitsujiTMO> masoudzc: while we're all for your loving ubuntu and hating ms, just a little reminder that this is a support channel and not a chat channel. for chat try #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:19] <Bashing-om> Timezone differential noted, careless on my part, thanks .
[20:19] <Sia-> Bashing-om, with separator also wrong!
[20:19] <sors> ObrienDave, never -- so I can have them track me and gear adds to me no thanks
[20:20] <hitsujiTMO> sors just diable the tracking
[20:20] <hitsujiTMO> disable*
[20:20] <sors> not going to happen other ideas?
[20:21] <hitsujiTMO> sors install chrome. pull the flash player. uninstall chrome. put the flash player in chromium
[20:21] <Calinou> ObrienDave, no.
[20:22] <Calinou> sors, install "ubuntu-restricted-extras" ?
[20:22] <sors> hitsujiTMO,  ok will try
[20:22] <sors> Calinou, did
[20:22] <Calinou> you can use Pepperflash in Chromium, but you need to keep Chrome installed.
[20:22] <Calinou> (but you don't have to run it)
[20:23] <Bashing-om> Sia-: The output of -C display indicates there is no driver loaded. What results when "Additional Drivers" is activated, does it find a driver ?
[20:23] <sors> hmmmmm Opera might be good
[20:23] <Calinou> opera isn't perfect privacy wise
[20:23] <Calinou> and is... a Chromium fork since recently
[20:23] <sors> ah
[20:24] <ObrienDave> opera is a chromium fork?
[20:24] <Sia-> Bashing-om, no driver is loaded, i knoiw that's i'm her to ask how to enable it. because additional driver can't load one
[20:24] <Sia-> no
[20:24] <maximus2> hi! im here!
[20:25] <Calinou> ObrienDave, yes since recently.
[20:25] <sors> Calinou, what is the diff  between chrom and chromium
[20:25] <Calinou> (though, there are a lot of people using old versions of it)
[20:26] <Calinou> Chrome is Google's non-free browser, that has obvious privacy issues
[20:26] <hitsujiTMO> ObrienDave: yup. they gave up on cloning ie's engine and choose to go with the cheaper option of using webkit + v8
[20:26] <Calinou> Chromium is free software, and is better privacy-wise, if you tweak it.
[20:26] <ObrienDave> LMAO since opera is one of the oldest browsers in existance, i'd say all other browsers are a fork of opera
[20:26] <Calinou> it doesn't wokr like that, ObrienDave
[20:27] <Calinou> that's like saying BF3 is a fork of Doom or Quake
[20:27] <Calinou> the term "fork" is valid if they use the same, or similar codebases...
[20:27] <hitsujiTMO> no bf3 is a fork of a pony game tho :P
[20:27] <ObrienDave> i understand "fork"
[20:28] <Bashing-om> Sia-. welp, intel is well supported, I would expect the i915 driver to be loaded.. can we see the out put of -> lspci -vnn | grep -i VGA <- .
[20:28] <maximus2> i am using xubuntu and xfce desktop,so can any body give me any help with using it?
[20:28] <maximus2> anyone
[20:28] <maximus2> please
[20:29] <maximus2> help me
[20:29] <Calinou> what do you need help with?
[20:29] <Calinou> don't ask to ask
[20:29] <hitsujiTMO> maximus2: if you need general guidance #xubuntu might be a good channel to visit
[20:30] <maximus2> ok
[20:30] <Calinou> #ubuntu does support xubuntu
[20:30] <jamesaxl>  /echo I am a hook!
[20:30] <James652> Hi. Is anyone here good with server 12.04LTS questions?
[20:30] <Sia-> Bashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6658943/
[20:31] <hitsujiTMO> !anyone | James652
[20:31] <demophobia> Is it correct that Rhythmbox is no longer using Sound Juicer to identify and extract CDs? If so, what is it now using instead? How can I add CD information for future use?
[20:31] <hitsujiTMO> !test | jamesaxl
[20:32] <jamesaxl> hitsujiTMO: thank you, i am sorry
[20:32] <James652> My issue is that the permissions for a folder are not copying over into the folders within it. Here is a diagram http://prntscr.com/2ey6fb
[20:32] <jamesaxl> #test
[20:33] <jamesaxl> ops forgot /j
[20:35] <hitsujiTMO> James652: ubuntu-server? with a graphical environment?  go to console and try: sudo chown -R mc3:mc3 /path/to/server3
[20:38] <Bashing-om> Sia_: Sorry, still do not know what display controller you have, let's try -> lspci -nn <- .
[20:41] <syeekick> hey whats the command to connect to ethernet manually ? the network manager applet is not doing it automatically like it used to.
[20:42] <dan64> What is the difference between a lib without dev suffix and a lib package with dev with dev suffix (e.g., libncurses5 versus libncurses5-dev)?
[20:42] <ObrienDave> dan64, usually extra packages for building
[20:43] <chip_> Hello! I have a question about Motorola phones and the MTP protocol
[20:43] <SonikkuAmerica> syeekick: I would assume this is what you're looking for: https://help.ubuntu.com/13.10/serverguide/network-configuration.html <<< the Ubuntu Server version of the ethernet plumbing guide.
[20:44] <SonikkuAmerica> syeekick: It also shows you how to make the changes persistent.
[20:44] <dan64> ObrienDave, thanks. What's the difference between the lib and non-lib (e.g., ncurses-base versus libncurses5)? The way you describe dev versus non-dev also sounds like it could be a difference between lib and non-lib)
[20:45] <ObrienDave> dan64, not sure on that, but could be. mostly files that start with lib are used by other packages to run
[20:46] <dan64> The reason I'm asking is because when I build software and am missing a library, I never know which packages to install. I usually can get it working and proceed, but I'd like to know the difference between the base package, the lib package, and the lib-dev package.
[20:47] <ObrienDave> dan64, sorry, that is way beyond my area of expertise
[20:49] <mbroeker> dan64, -dev packages contain the c header files and libraries which are not stripped. -base packages contain data files and not libraries, normal -lib packages contain stripped libraries without debug support built in
[20:49] <dan64> ObrienDave, I think your answer helped. Thanks. My takeaway is that the base package is for running the package, the lib package is for software that has already been compiled against that library to work, and the lib-dev is necessary for compiling software against some library.
[20:49] <landau> hello...my ubuntu not start...i have this grub error:  error: symbol not found: 'grub_efi_secure_boot'
[20:49] <landau> can you help me?
[20:49] <dan64> mbroeker, thanks for clarifying.
[20:51] <chip_> How do I get my Computer to see my phone as storage, it only sees it as a camera and not able to access files
[20:52] <chip_> my laptop sees it just fine, desktop not so much both running 13.10
[20:52] <Wayward_Vagabond> chip_: There may be an option in the phone for what device it should present itself as
[20:53] <crysler> ciao a tutti
[20:53] <chip_> it does one is MTP one is camera
[20:53] <Wayward_Vagabond> Try selecting MTP
[20:54] <chip_> that works on my dell laptop, but not my asus desktop
[20:54] <PleaseHelpMe> hello
[20:54] <Sia-> Bashing-om, have you seen my last pastebin?
[20:56] <[[a]> Hello; where can I find the history file (directory) of the terminal? for both "su" and "owner" users?
[20:56] <Sia-> any driver for this graphic card? use /join #test )
[20:56] <Sia-> any driver for this graphic card? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6658943/
[20:56] <Bashing-om> Sia- Maybe not( still learning IRC !) .. but I am presently awaiting the out put of -> lspci -nn <- as I have yet to identify the display controller (optimus here ??).
[20:57] <PleaseHelpMe> I'm trying to install nvidia 331 drivers on  Ubuntu 12.04 LTS with the Edgers repository, but when I try to load the nviida kernel module, I keep getting an error:  http://pastebin.com/tTexiYX4   <-- any suggestions?
[20:57] <vik> my unity dosent load . any help :(
[20:58] <Sia-> Bashing-om, srry for my mistake her is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/6659058/
[20:58] <demophobia> How do I change the view in the documents viewer from an icon grid to a list?
[20:59] <glitsj16> chip_: does your desktop have the needed libmtp* files installed?
[20:59] <vik> is any one here can help
[20:59] <davidrsmorris> PleaseHelpMe: could you paste up the results of 'ls /lib/modules/3.8.0-29-generic/updates/dkms/' ?
[20:59] <Bashing-om> Sia-: looking at 6659058/, I'll be back !
[21:00] <vik> ?
[21:00] <Sia-> Bashing-om, what u mean with 6659058?
[21:00] <Sia-> ok tyt
[21:01] <vik> anyone ? i am really stuck up with this for 3 hrs
[21:01] <chip_> Checking glitsj16....
[21:02] <BluesKaj> Sia-, sudo lshw -C video , the installed driver will beside "configuration"
[21:02] <BluesKaj> show
[21:02] <glitsj16> chip_: ok, i think you need at least libmtp-common, libmtp-runtime and libmtp9
[21:02] <[[a]> Hello; where can I find the history file (directory) of the terminal?
[21:03] <glitsj16> [[a]: in ~/.bash_history
[21:03] <davidrsmorris> vik: Hmm, is it default, or have compiz settings, etc been changed?
[21:03] <Sia-> BluesKaj, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6659092/
[21:03] <[[a]> ok
[21:04] <vik> default , in compiz i enabled unity plugin but not gain
[21:04] <vik> davidrsmorris
[21:04] <micros> hello. I have an embedded device that needs to connect to my ubuntu server to download a firmware zip.  The embedded device has removable media which would be easy to compromise should the embedded device have a private key.  the firmware itself doesnt really need to be protected, a public ftp would probably be just as good. is it a good idea to create a user on the server with no shell, that
[21:04] <micros> can ftp in and download the firmware files?  the server already has sftp setup for developers, so this would also mean enabling ftp and blocking allusers except this special user. how is that done? thanks.
[21:05] <PleaseHelpMe> davidrsmorris:  trogdor@trogdor:~$ ls /lib/modules/3.8.0-29-generic/updates/dkms/ nvidia_331.ko
[21:06] <davidrsmorris> vik: I'm not familiar with gain.  Just to check, you're running a recent version of Ubuntu?
[21:06] <vik> 13.04 . i havent upgraded
[21:07] <BluesKaj> Sia-, install,  xserver-xorg-video-intel , it should show up in synaptic package manager
[21:08] <Sia-> BluesKaj, i do thnx
[21:09] <davidrsmorris> PleaseHelpMe: hmm, try pastebinning ls -R /lib/modules.  Which kernel version do you have (uname -a)?
[21:09] <micros> which ftp server would one recomment?
[21:09] <micros> d
[21:10] <davidrsmorris> vik: are you typing this from another window manager, or another computer?
[21:10] <Sia-> BluesKaj, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6659123/
[21:10] <TJ-> micros: Does the embedded device support TFTP rather than FTP? You could use "tftpd-hpa" to support that
[21:10] <vik> i was able to open firefox from terminal '
[21:11] <micros> TJ - in theory, it could. its am embedded device.
[21:11] <Sia-> and my machine is 64bit
[21:12] <micros> however, curl is readily available and pretty easy to use
[21:12] <TJ-> micros: If you use IP-address based access-control it should be safe enough
[21:12] <micros> tj - from experience, what route would you take? use the existing sftp and put a private key in some keystore on an insecure target, or just allow plain ftp for this particular user. there download itself doesnt need to be secured
[21:13] <micros> tj - ip based control isnt possible. there will be numerous clients outside of our control. even if done manually with a pc client / browser, i dont really see an issue
[21:13] <BluesKaj> Sia-, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core xorg-video-abi-11
[21:13] <vik> davidrsmorris : can u provide solution for this .It's midnight 3 here
[21:13] <androy> Hello! Has Cm11 DSP manager already included? (Nightlys)
[21:14] <vik> havent slept yet
[21:14] <TJ-> micros: which is insecure (for the purposes of the private key), the embedded device or the server?
[21:14] <micros> then again, if the key is compromised, its no different than a plain text login to ftp... so, if ftp in general should be avoided, then this is probably ok too
[21:15] <linuxthefish> why is the mirror thingy so slow?
[21:16] <SaberX01> linuxthefish, the mirror thingy?
[21:16] <linuxthefish> http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/releases.ubuntu.com//precise/ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso
[21:17] <davidrsmorris> vik: If it's worked before, I'd run apt-get purge unity ; apt-get autoremove ; apt-get install unity from another window manager, then if that doesn't work, sleep... good luck :)
[21:17] <SaberX01> linuxthefish, Could be an infinite number of reasons as to why, try another mirror.
[21:18] <davidrsmorris> vik: oh, sorry, that should be autoremove --purge
[21:23] <davidrsmorris> Hey, has anyone used a resizeable Xephyr?  I saw what looked like a post this May adding support for that, but I haven't been able to find anything to turn it on.
[21:32] <Bashing-om> Sia-: I am not making any headway with this ! what returns from -> lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga <- ?
[21:37] <masoudzc_> anyone here?
[21:37] <ObrienDave> nope
[21:38] <masoudzc_> i cant find skype for ubuntu i want to install it ?
[21:40] <Bashing-om> Sia-: Never mind my last, playing catch up, I see there are dependency issues !
[21:43]  * ObrienDave will never understand why someone will ask for help and then *poof*
[21:44] <gordonjcp> ObrienDave: happens all the time in every channel
[21:44] <SaberX01> He probably needed to add the partner repo then install, but oh well.
[21:44] <BluesKaj> Bashing-om, looks like Sia- left
[21:44] <ObrienDave> yup, that's what i was going to tell him. WHATever ;P
[21:44] <gordonjcp> ObrienDave: I get this in an IRC channel that is the primary means of supporting some software I wrote
[21:44] <gordonjcp> "I am having problem please help"
[21:45] <gordonjcp> "Please help is most urgent I need help now"
[21:45] <rcw2> MonkeyDust, just want to use samsung scanner/printer with linux
[21:45] <gordonjcp> "I need help right now it is urgent"
[21:45] <gordonjcp> "Oh this software is no good and has bugs I must have help"
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[21:45] <gordonjcp> generally in under a minute, at like 3am
[21:45] <ObrienDave> gordonjcp, i understand your pain :))
[21:45] <gordonjcp> APNIC, natch
[21:46] <noideas> it's becuase the last command they find to try is sudo rm -r
[21:46] <noideas> jk
[21:48] <gordonjcp> dear knows
[21:56] <Bashing-om>  BluesKaj; Thanks for that advisement of departure, still feeling out the ropes here on IRC ! Bear with me !
[21:58] <BluesKaj> Bashing-om, one method is to use the tab key to auto finish the nick , if it doesn't do so then the person has left the chat
[22:00] <Bashing-om>  BluesKaj:  Hey, that is a very nice thing to know ! Will do henseforth.
[22:02] <BluesKaj> Bashing-om, if one isn't careful it ends up addressing the person sometimes using that method
[22:03] <eneasvva> Hi
[22:03] <ramborocks> anyone able to help me get a drive to change permissions
[22:03] <ramborocks> i was told i might need to edit my fstab / make it a samba share
[22:06] <noideas> ramborocks: are you trying to change folder permissions or add it to samba?
[22:06] <eneasvva> after to do dist-upgrade, I can't see icons on desktop  nor exist desktop like such it
[22:07] <eneasvva> what could happen ?
[22:09] <Jazayri> hi guys, i've lost my desktop (lxde) only can right click, i'm using openbox now
[22:10] <eneasvva> Jazayri, I too
[22:10] <eneasvva> me too*
[22:13] <hochiminh> hello, how can I upgrade python? I have already 2.7.3 installed, while current version is 3.3.3
[22:13] <hochiminh> via ppa?
[22:13] <jhutchins> !python
[22:13] <Guest82719> Good evening how's everyone doing? I have Ubuntu 13.10 and I have a dvd copied to my videos folder that I want to burn to a DVD so I can watch it in my DVD player. How do I do this? I tried to use brasaro but it wont burn when i select video project or burn dvd image. It will let me burn data but that can only be loaded on a computer. How can I do this?
[22:14] <[[a]> hi
[22:15] <jhutchins> Guest82719: How did you copy the DVD?
[22:15] <ObrienDave> Guest82719, you MUST "finalize" the disc to be read by a DVD player
[22:16] <Bashing-om>  BluesKaj; Will observe the results of tab competion. Like I advise, I have much to learn .
[22:18] <BluesKaj> Bashing-om, I've ben an irc user for over 15 yrs and still learning :)
[22:20] <ramborocks> blue wheres a good channel to go for tech support questions?
[22:20] <Bashing-om> BluesKaj: Boy do I have some catch up to do !
[22:20] <jhutchins> ramborocks: For what tech?
[22:21]  * jhutchins has six years on BluesKaj and is still learning.
[22:22] <Guest82719> jhutchins,  I just copied it to the computer.
[22:22] <Bashing-om> jhutchins: BluesKaj :: Fired this off with "irssi", it is all a steep learning curve !, Lots of home work !
[22:23] <BluesKaj> jhutchins, hope I never stop learning
[22:23] <Guest82719> ObrienDave, So how do I do it? I have the DVD on my computer I can click on it and watch it with no problem. How can I burn it to a dvd to be read in a player?
[22:23] <idueppe> Hi, I'm totally stucked debootstraping 12.04 on a luks drive with mdadm raid ... can some help me?
[22:26] <lesshaste> my python script which uses an external library segfaults. Ubuntu comes up with a reporting dialog box but how can I get the debug info in plain text?
[22:26] <geoffmcc> Guest82719: Try http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-devede-3-23-on-ubuntu-13-10-13-04-12-10-12-04-linux-mint-15-14-13-and-elementary-os-0-2-luna/
[22:27] <Guest82719> geoffmcc, Thank you im checking it out now
[22:27] <bigbadben> lets say I have a directory with permissions 555 and inside that directory I have a directory that is 777 can I write a folder inside the second directory?
[22:28] <bekks> bigbadben: Just test it?
[22:28] <bobptz> guys, I think my GRUB broke and it boots in command line
[22:28] <bobptz> can somebody help me fix it?
[22:28] <bekks> !grub2 | bobptz
[22:29] <bobptz> yes I had dual boot with winxp and ubuntu 12.04 lts
[22:29] <idueppe> Could someone have a look at https://gist.github.com/idueppe/8173364 and tell me why "mdadm: cannot open /dev/md/1: No such file or directory" is prompt on installing linux...generic
[22:30] <bobptz> I am afraid that after trying to fix it, it now points to a different drive when it boots
[22:30] <ObrienDave> bobptz, look into boot-repair
[22:31] <bobptz> ObrienDave is it in the above tutorials?
[22:31] <ObrienDave> not that i know of
[22:31] <jhutchins> bobptz: If you edit the kernel options can you point it to the right drive?
[22:31] <geoffmcc> bobptz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:31] <jhutchins> !fixgrub
[22:31] <bobptz> jhutchins I do not know how to do this
[22:31] <jhutchins> Same one, sorry.
[22:32] <jhutchins> bobptz: See that first URL?  Start with that.
[22:32] <bobptz> ok I will start from here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:32] <jhutchins> bobptz: Also, you can hit "e" to edit the boot command when you're booting.
[22:33] <bobptz> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub     ???
[22:33] <bobptz> this first?
[22:33] <bobptz> jhutchins ok I'll try to hit "e"
[22:34] <bobptz> jhutchins  I did press e, it took me to some kind of notepad
[22:35] <bobptz> but I do not know what to do/fix here
[22:35] <bobptz> jhutchins could you tell me what to change?
[22:37] <Guest59188> Hello :) I cannot boot into any of my two installed operating systems. Now I see that on my linux partition the folder efi in  boot/efi is emtpy. Is this normal?
[22:37] <Bashing-om> bobptz: Another great tutorial on grub and fixes -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275 .
[22:38] <bobptz> Bashing-om thank you, I will look into it
[22:39] <Bashing-om> bobptz: Roger, when you know more we can help more ..explictly.
[22:40] <owen1> what doesn't ubuntu support systemd? is there a plan to do that?
[22:40] <bobptz> Bashing-om ok I think one of the problems I caused is that I changed the root, so when I do ls at the command line, I see the WINDOWS directories
[22:41] <bobptz> right now I see set root='(hd1,msdos7)'
[22:41] <bobptz> I have several partitions and I do not know where ubuntu is supposed to be
[22:43] <OerHeks> owen1, short info > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTMyMDE
[22:43] <bobptz> Bashing-om, have you seen what I wrote?
[22:45] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys!
[22:46] <OerHeks> owen1, and see the PPA part in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/systemd
[22:47] <Wiz_KeeD> Guest15426 is querying spam
[22:47] <jhutchins> bobptz: There are several ways to use the grub shell to find your boot directory. I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to when you say you "see the Windows directories" at the "command line".
[22:47] <Wiz_KeeD> Coudl anyone please help me debug my wireless issue on my asus? It seems to not detect the wireless card in ubuntu or windows alike...
[22:47] <jhutchins> bobptz: I think you should read those web pages.
[22:48] <bobptz> ok guys, I am reading them
[22:48] <ePax> Is it possible to restart remote desktop sharing thrue ssh ? I can not connect to it.
[22:49] <ePax> Guest15426 is spamming... any admins here?
[22:49] <Bashing-om> bobptz: Yes I have seen the texts. Not much one can advise with out the knowledge of what is and no way to get it. I have observed there are good results from "boot repair" to effect the fix.
[22:49] <jhutchins> bobptz: Alsom some of these may be of help: https://www.google.com/search?q=grub+rescue
[22:50] <azusa> How can I set up my laptop to that it bridges a connection between my wifi and it's ethernet port?
[22:50] <bekks> !router
[22:50] <ObrienDave> Wiz_KeeD, still? hasn't it been like a month that you've been trying to fix this??
[22:50] <bekks> hmm.
[22:50] <jhutchins> bekks: What are you looking for?
[22:50] <bekks> jhutchins: The ubottu factoid for "how to set up a router".
[22:51] <bekks> jhutchins: Thats what azusa is actually looking for.
[22:51] <jhutchins> !ics
[22:51] <Wiz_KeeD> ObrienDave, that was a different laptop and it was a broadcom dirver issue, now it worked almost great until...it doesn't work anymore..
[22:52] <jhutchins> Wiz_KeeD: Hardware fails.
[22:52] <Wiz_KeeD> jhutchins, that's the only explanation? :(
[22:54] <OerHeks> Wiz_KeeD, some laptops have a FN key as wireless switch
[22:55] <Wiz_KeeD> OerHeks, yeah I use that and it just jumps in and out of airplane mode
[22:56] <OerHeks> Wiz_KeeD, oke, if that does not solve any, are you outside USA and driver is set to USA 12 channels+ ?
[22:58] <jhutchins> Wiz_KeeD: The usual tools, lspci, lsusb, dmesg.
[22:58] <Wiz_KeeD> jhutchins, let me run them
[22:58] <Wiz_KeeD> OerHeks, Europe - Romania
[23:02] <cleanear> 0_o
[23:04] <ramborocks> hello
[23:04] <idueppe> what can be the reason that "mdadm --detail --scan" works fine, but if chroot to the debootstrap system it says that it cannot open /dev/md/1 which should be the boot partition
[23:04] <ramborocks> question does
[23:04] <ramborocks> UUID=24CC71A948EE2189 /media/small lotus ntfs defaults 0 0
[23:04] <micros> how many connections can sftp/ssh support versus ftp?  in ftp, there needs to be a range of potential pasv translation ports, does sftp have the same requirement or do you only need to open one port in the firewall, unlike ftp that needs 20, 21, and maybe 1000-2000 or so
[23:05] <ramborocks> im putting that in my fstab i got a error on boot. Does the space between "small lotus" matter?
[23:05] <bekks> ramborocks: yes, it matters. Escape it.
[23:05] <gordonjcp> ramborocks: spaces in filenames are a generally poor idea
[23:05] <ramborocks> what do you mean escape it?
[23:06] <ramborocks> just leave blank?
[23:06] <bekks> ramborocks: No. Escape it: /media/small\ lotus
[23:06] <gordonjcp> or better yet, get rid of the space altogether
[23:06] <ramborocks> ahh!
[23:06] <ramborocks> yeah i just looked and the dir i made is just small
[23:07] <ramborocks> because it took out the space :)
[23:07] <AcidRain2012> why wont rhythmbox read my music?
[23:07] <AcidRain2012> root is the owner of all the music files. but i havae permissions set to allow others to read
[23:08] <gordonjcp> !ops | Guest15426
[23:08] <jbroome> Guest15426: please stop
[23:09] <jbroome> test
[23:21] <nawb> Hi, I have a question about recovering partitions. Is this the right place to ask?
[23:22] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | nawb
[23:24] <Ikaruga> Are there no unregistered nicknames
[23:27] <Bio615> goodenough
[23:29] <nawb> thanks! I have Win7/Ubuntu dualboot. I booted up Win7, it asked to recover some files, I let it, & it ran CHKDSK before booting. Next time I booted Ubuntu, I was greeted by the grub cli - weird because I'd never had to boot from grub before. So I started looking for vmlinuz in all the partitions but there was no /boot folder anywhere. Back in Win, I checked partitions & apparently it had overwritten the Ubuntu config, made it a Recovery
[23:30] <naryfa> Hi. Does anybody know how to assign a reload command (which is normally under F5) to another key?
[23:33] <lukecarrier> Any package maintainers here who would be able to lend a hand to somebody familiar with RPM but completely lost with uupdate and quilt?
[23:34] <lukecarrier> I want to put a newer release (2.42.3) of libsoup in a PPA, but uupdate just seems to violently vomit symlinks all over my working directory instead of doing as documented
[23:37] <carolos> sup homies
[23:38] <jhutchins> nawb: Your description appears to be incomplete.  Most third-party OEM recovery utilities will destroy linux partitions, but the utilities within Windows itself will not.
[23:39] <carolos> is there any way to add all of the ubuntu repos to kali linux
[23:39] <jhutchins> !kali
[23:41] <nawb> jhutchins: I could be wrong to blame Windows then. However the problem has only started happening after I let it do startup repair. The partition that I used as Ubuntu is now called "Recovery partition" in windows' disk manager.
[23:42] <carolos> is thre a irc just for chatting?
[23:42] <ObrienDave> carolos, #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:44] <jhutchins> nawb: I would assume that your Linux installation is gone.  What's in the recovery partition?
[23:45] <lukecarrier> Are there any package maintainers around?
[23:45] <jhutchins> carolos: There are many.  freenode and oftc are oriented toward software support.  undernet.org is oriented to more social channels.  There are several dozen networks.
[23:45] <glitsj16> lukecarrier: have you asked in #ubuntu-packaging ?
[23:45] <lukecarrier> glitsj16, I have not, thanks
[23:46] <naryfa> Hi. Does anybody know what command sits under the F5 (refresh) key? I want to use it on a different button but have no idea what it's called...
[23:47] <jhutchins> naryfa: It depends entirely what software is in the foreground when you press the key.
[23:47] <jhutchins> naryfa: It sounds like you're referring to the behavior of most browsers.
[23:47] <valdir> help
[23:48] <jhutchins> naryfa: Gnome will allow you to map something else to it, doing so will probably break the function in the browser(s).
[23:48] <jhutchins> !help
[23:48] <valdir> :)
[23:48] <Nale> valdir: :)
[23:48] <valdir> !help
[23:48] <bobptz> guys, I did go through the BOOT-REPAIR process but nothing changed.  I still go to the command line.  Here is the file:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6659797/
[23:49] <naryfa> jhutchins: hmmm, it kind of makes sense what you say. I've got KDE here. This keyboard has hotkeys, but STOP, REFRESH, BACK and FORWARD don't seem to work.
[23:49] <naryfa> jhutchins: I figured if I remap them, they'll work but I guess that's not that easy
[23:49] <jhutchins> naryfa: You can find what keycodes they send with the xeval program.  Keyboards use so many different mappings it's hard to find standardized drivers for them.
[23:50] <naryfa> jhutchins: okay, thank you very much
[23:51] <bobptz> guys, I did go through the BOOT-REPAIR process but nothing changed.  I still go to the command line.  Here is the file:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6659797/
[23:51] <Nale> bobptz; run rm -rf /
[23:51] <Nale> it works.
[23:51] <Nale> I tried it out.
[23:52] <Beldar> bobptz, Is sdb the first HD read in the bios?
[23:52] <mib2490> In console mode (e.g. accessed thru Ctrl + Alt + F5), how do you scroll up to view previous output after the command already executed?
[23:52] <bobptz> it is a 320 gb disk that boots, but I do not know what sdb is
[23:53] <bobptz> Nale, what does this do?  rm -rf /
[23:53] <ObrienDave> bobptz, sda is the first HD in your system. sdb is the second/external HD
[23:53] <Nale> bobptz; it fixes your stuff.
[23:53] <bekks> !danger
[23:53] <Beldar> bobptz, You have two HD's your windows and ubuntu installs are on that drive, it should be in the bios the first read to boot.
[23:53] <Nale> bobptz; run that command in a terminal.
[23:53] <ObrienDave> bobptz, DO NOT DO THAT
[23:53] <Nale> bekks; stop threatening the kid, jeez.
[23:53] <Nale> bobptz; these guys are just tryna discourage you.
[23:53] <Nale> bobptz; run the goddamn command.
[23:54] <bekks> !ops | nale stop giving advices like that which will break systems.
[23:54] <Nale> bobptz; trust me, I am a professional.
[23:54] <bobptz> ok, I will NOT run the command
[23:54] <Nale> bekks, wtf dude it doesn't.
[23:54] <Nale> bobptz; run it.
[23:54] <bekks> bobptz: Dont listen to him, seriously.
[23:54] <Nale> it doesn't break it.
[23:54] <carolos> wait wait, what's the kid trying to do?
[23:54] <ObrienDave> bobptz, DO NOT DO THAT
[23:54] <Nale> bobptz; bekks is a fucking troll.
[23:54] <bekks> bobptz: Dont run that command.
[23:54] <ObrienDave> dang, takes all kinds
[23:54] <IdleOne> bobptz: Do not run that command, it will destroy your install
[23:55] <bobptz> the correct drive boots, the second drive with 320 gb this is not a problem
[23:55] <bekks> IdleOne: Thank you. :)
[23:55] <ObrienDave> thanks, IdleOne
[23:56] <carolos> why did we kick him?
[23:56] <bekks> carolos: Because he tried to make him break his system.
[23:57] <bobptz> http://linuxcommand.org/man_pages/rm1.html   says I should not run it
[23:57] <IdleOne> the man pages are right
[23:57] <bekks> bobptz: Then dont run it. :)
[23:57] <bobptz> ok guys, so why do I keep going to the command line?