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| tomatosalad | Quick question, what is the significance of the mac builds? I use debian myself but want to get my friend started with a livecd on an older macbook pro that *is* 64-bit, but I'm wondering what the difference between the mac and pc isos? | 08:27 |
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| JohnDoe_71Rus | tomatosalad: x86 and PowerPC diferent arch | 08:29 |
| tomatosalad | oh, really? | 08:29 |
| tomatosalad | that's a crap way of describing the files, then, because there were 32-bit intel processors | 08:29 |
| JohnDoe_71Rus | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC | 08:30 |
| tomatosalad | The original MBP had a 32-bit Intel Core Duo | 08:30 |
| tomatosalad | Yonah | 08:30 |
| JohnDoe_71Rus | Depends on the year | 08:31 |
| JohnDoe_71Rus | if it has Intel CPU, you can use x86 or amd64 iso | 08:31 |
| tomatosalad | No, it doesn't. The original MacBook Pro revision, introduced in 2006, had a 32-bit Yonah Intel Core Duo processor, which was then replaced in the next revision with a 64-bit Merom Intel Core 2 Duo processor. (the MBP was also the first mac with an intel processor) | 08:32 |
| tomatosalad | The original MacBook also had a Yonah | 08:33 |
| tomatosalad | That's ~10 months worth of macs with 32-bit intel processors | 08:33 |
| tomatosalad | and, anyway, they're not different arches | 08:34 |
| tomatosalad | I'm discussing the amd64 "PC" iso and the amd64 "mac" iso | 08:34 |
| tomatosalad | what is the functional difference? wifi drivers? | 08:35 |
| JohnDoe_71Rus | Special disks for MAC, only for powerPC | 08:42 |
| tomatosalad | no, they're not only powerpc | 08:42 |
| tomatosalad | there's an x64 arch for mac | 08:43 |
| JohnDoe_71Rus | tomatosalad: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu | 09:05 |
| tomatosalad | do you realize how unhelpful you are | 09:05 |
| JohnDoe_71Rus | no :) | 09:06 |
| JohnDoe_71Rus | ordinary computer - x86 or amd64. Apple pc - new with intel cpu = the same ordinary computer with MacOS. You can install x86 or amd64 OS. if it powerpc cpu, use only powerpc images | 09:09 |
| Unit193 | tomatosalad: Macs use old EFI based systems that don't support multi-catalog CDs, thus they can't use the UEFI/BIOS hybrid disks. | 09:19 |
| tomatosalad | Unit193: oh, interesting | 09:23 |
| tomatosalad | ...are the x86 ones multi-catalog? | 09:23 |
| Unit193 | Oh, well close, more info http://askubuntu.com/questions/37999/what-is-different-about-the-mac-iso-image | 09:23 |
| Unit193 | EFI doesn't really matter in 32bit world. | 09:23 |
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| hectorh30 | Hi people, does anyone know if its possible to have a keyboard shortcut to create a new desktop? | 15:17 |
| hectorh30 | I used to have that feature in xubuntu, but I couldn't find anything like that in ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml | 15:18 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Create a new desktop? As in a new workspace? | 15:24 |
| hectorh30 | SonikkuAmerica, Umm.. one more of the 4 desktops I already have laid out horizontally | 15:28 |
| SonikkuAmerica | hectorh30: Doesn't Ctrl+Alt+[Left and Right] do that? One second... | 15:51 |
| hectorh30 | SonikkuAmerica, I've set that keys to move between desktops.. but I'd like to create a new one (and also destroy one) on demand | 15:55 |
| hectorh30 | In XFCE I used to do that with ctrl + insert and ctrl + supr | 15:55 |
| SonikkuAmerica | You may wish to check this link out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2033467 | 15:59 |
| hectorh30 | SonikkuAmerica, that's what I was looking for.. many thanks | 16:02 |
| SonikkuAmerica | :) yw | 16:02 |
| koell | I always need to enter mys password on network manager, though I set all user rights in the settings. Any recommendations ? | 16:21 |
| honestemu | How do I get sound to come out of my second monitor instead of my laptop? | 19:12 |
| holstein | honestemu: ? | 19:12 |
| holstein | honestemu: what are the audio connections to the speakers? | 19:12 |
| honestemu | I'm connecting with an HDMI cable. | 19:13 |
| holstein | honestemu: hdmi can be problematic | 19:13 |
| holstein | honestemu: i would probably try a distro live with pulse to see if that helps.. something like xubuntu live.. if it "just works" then you can add pulse to lubuntu | 19:14 |
| holstein | otherwise, i usually just plug an analog audio cable up.. since HDMI may not work | 19:14 |
| holstein | you can try the usually steps.. routing in alsamixer in the terminal | 19:14 |
| holstein | !audio | 19:14 |
| ubottu | If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !players and !mp3. | 19:14 |
| holstein | i would, from lubuntu, open a terminal and run "alsamixer" and trust no labels | 19:15 |
| tamaroth_ | Hey, I have a problem with my projector. I use e-Machnes V700 which is HD Read (720p) but when connected to my PC the only resolution I have is 800x600:60 | 20:02 |
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| tamaroth | xrandr shows it's the only possible mode for that output | 20:02 |
| tamaroth | Has anyone got any experience with dealing with projectors and/or resolutions that are not displayed | 20:04 |
| SonikkuAmerica | I do, but not with Lubuntu. For its lightweight size, much is sacrificed, including easily editing keyboard shortcuts. | 20:06 |
| SonikkuAmerica | But I'll try as best I can. | 20:07 |
| ianorlin | is it through a vga cable? | 20:07 |
| SonikkuAmerica | ^ | 20:07 |
| SonikkuAmerica | (ianorlin: +1) | 20:07 |
| ianorlin | sometimes things don't support the higher resolutions they claim to through vga and get all spread wierd and distorted | 20:09 |
| ianorlin | also waht resolution is your monitor currently set to? | 20:09 |
| tamaroth | ianorlin: it's vga -> hdmi | 20:11 |
| tamaroth | monitor is full hd 1920x1200 | 20:11 |
| tamaroth | projector is connected to another display port | 20:11 |
| tamaroth | so ubuntu sees it as a second monitor I guess | 20:12 |
| tamaroth | DVI-I-2 connected 800x600+1920+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm | 20:12 |
| ianorlin | is it your adapter cable has some wierd in built restriction? | 20:14 |
| SonikkuAmerica | So is that [M1:HDMI > DVI][M2:VGA > DVI]? | 20:15 |
| tamaroth | ianorlin: it works ok on Windows though | 20:16 |
| tamaroth | it's PC: DVI -> HDMI :Projector (if that makes any sense) | 20:17 |
| * ianorlin wonders if it is useing vesa for the driver for the projector | 20:17 | |
| tamaroth | I don't know :( | 20:17 |
| tamaroth | Bah, I have to flee, I'll check the driver later ianorlin, thanks for the tip | 20:19 |
| tamaroth | toodles | 20:19 |
| Gatis | Hello | 20:44 |
| Gatis | I connected Windows Phone 8 to Lubuntu 13.10 and tried to move files insid SD card but i couldnt. I had error that its unsupported.. WHY? | 20:45 |
| Gatis | I Can copy files on Windows Phone 8 SD card | 20:45 |
| Gatis | But i cant move them inside SD Card | 20:45 |
| Gatis | Do you have any idea why? | 20:46 |
| Gatis | Tried google but couldnt get solution | 20:47 |
| ianorlin | what format is the sd card? | 20:48 |
| Gatis | NOt sure | 20:49 |
| Gatis | I formated it using Windows Phone 8 | 20:49 |
| Gatis | Windows Phone 8 supports SDHC cards (in FAT file system format) or SDXC (in exFAT file system format) | 20:51 |
| Gatis | I have 8GB SD card insid | 20:52 |
| Gatis | WIndows Phone 8 connects to Lubuntu using MTP connection | 20:53 |
| Gatis | Is it ok? | 20:53 |
| ianorlin | I don't think exfat works with any linux really | 20:53 |
| ianorlin | because of patents | 20:53 |
| Gatis | But thing is i could copy on to SD Card and Delete from it. But i couldn't move files, for example ordering pictures in folders.. | 20:54 |
| Gatis | I get like unsupported by backend... | 20:54 |
| Gatis | Something like that. | 20:54 |
| Gatis | "Operation not supported by backend" | 20:55 |
| ianorlin | are you using pcmanfm or terminal? | 20:55 |
| Gatis | pcmanfm | 20:55 |
| Gatis | Im not so advanced user :) | 20:55 |
| Gatis | Is it possible Windows Phone 8 limits moving files? | 20:58 |
| ianorlin | does the moving the files work on the phone? | 20:58 |
| Gatis | Well i cant do it on phone | 20:58 |
| Gatis | On Windows Phone 8 i dont have file manager | 20:59 |
| ianorlin | can you create folders? on the sd card? | 20:59 |
| Gatis | Yes | 21:00 |
| Gatis | Using Lubuntu | 21:00 |
| ianorlin | why not copy organize on comp then copy whole folders and clean up duplicates | 21:00 |
| Gatis | I can do that | 21:01 |
| Gatis | But its complicated sometimes | 21:01 |
| Gatis | ANyway | 21:01 |
| Gatis | Why shouldnt i be able to move files inside SD? | 21:01 |
| ianorlin | I think you should but this might be some wierd bug or depending on format | 21:05 |
| Gatis | hmm | 21:05 |
| Gatis | You said exFAT is not supported by linux | 21:06 |
| Gatis | That might be the case | 21:06 |
| Unit193 | Fuse supports it at least. | 21:06 |
| Gatis | but i have SDHC card | 21:06 |
| Gatis | not SDXC | 21:06 |
| Gatis | so i have FAT propably | 21:06 |
| Gatis | I think i need windows :( | 21:07 |
| Gatis | Can you tell me how can i check SD format in Lubuntu? | 21:09 |
| ianorlin | disks utility under accesories but don't change anything | 21:10 |
| Gatis | It doesnt show up | 21:12 |
| Gatis | mtp://[usb:001,012]/ | 21:12 |
| Gatis | heres connected my windows phone | 21:12 |
| Gatis | How can i make a screenshot? | 21:13 |
| Gatis | hello? | 21:17 |
| ianorlin | scrot from command line works | 21:17 |
| ianorlin | printscreen key also should | 21:17 |
| Gatis | Where does it save the picture? | 21:20 |
| ianorlin | home folder | 21:21 |
| Gatis | This is what i get moving picture to Christmas foldder inside SD card: http://i43.tinypic.com/2468htv.png | 21:23 |
| Gatis | Has this something to do with permissions? | 21:24 |
| Gatis | are you there? | 21:26 |
| Gatis | When i right click permissions on SD card, there's: View Content: Only owner / Change content: Nobody / Access content: Nobody | 21:28 |
| SonikkuAmerica | What is your SD card mounted under in PCManFM? | 21:29 |
| Gatis | My SD card is in Windows Phone 8 | 21:30 |
| Gatis | I have connected my phone trough MTP connection | 21:30 |
| Gatis | I can copy on it, delete from it but i cant reorganize and move files, like pictures in folders | 21:30 |
| Gatis | I get this error when moving file inside SD: http://i43.tinypic.com/2468htv.png | 21:31 |
| Gatis | Im confused :( | 21:32 |
| Gatis | anyone? | 21:34 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Oh, it MTP'ed in from your device?? | 21:36 |
| SonikkuAmerica | That's a completely different ballgame. | 21:37 |
| SonikkuAmerica | You don't have any SD card reader? (Not even a USB one?) | 21:37 |
| Gatis | SonikkuAmerica no | 21:37 |
| Gatis | BUt should it be a problem? | 21:37 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Well I don't know why your SD card is MTP'ed; I thought the SD card would be assigned a block device | 21:39 |
| Gatis | What does it mean? | 21:41 |
| Gatis | I read WIndows Phone supports MTP only | 21:42 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Gatis: What did you do, plug your phone in directly? | 21:45 |
| Gatis | Using usb cable | 21:46 |
| SonikkuAmerica | There's your problem. You're telling me it's an SD card when it's an MTP connection directly from your Windows Phone. | 21:46 |
| Gatis | Yes i can access my SD card like that | 21:47 |
| Gatis | Is there a problem with that? | 21:47 |
| Gatis | okay | 21:49 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Not a huge one, but I have no idea how to transfer files from your Windows Phone to Lubuntu (it's a permissions issue, as you indicated, but you can't just go in and change permissions like anyone's business... | 21:49 |
| SonikkuAmerica | ) | 21:49 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Windows and Linux are 2 different things. | 21:49 |
| Gatis | But why it worked with androind phone and MTP connection? | 21:49 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Android is Linux-based. | 21:49 |
| ianorlin | android does not equal windows phone | 21:50 |
| Gatis | Is there a problem with SD format? | 21:50 |
| ianorlin | no I don't think so | 21:50 |
| Gatis | I dont know what format SD has android | 21:50 |
| SonikkuAmerica | I doubt it, but I think it would be easier if you plugged your SD card into your computer | 21:51 |
| SonikkuAmerica | (if it doesn't, get a USB SD reader, they're cheap) | 21:51 |
| Gatis | or windows | 21:51 |
| ianorlin | usb SD card reader is lot cheaper than windows | 21:52 |
| ianorlin | and there aren't bulky either | 21:52 |
| Gatis | but i have to say windows is life saver in situations like this | 21:52 |
| Gatis | But i dont understand why linux supports MTP connection | 21:53 |
| Gatis | If it does not work | 21:53 |
| Gatis | im not sure where is the error | 21:54 |
| Gatis | people | 21:56 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Uh... we're working on it. | 21:57 |
| SonikkuAmerica | OK, is this 13.10? | 21:58 |
| SonikkuAmerica | (It looks like it) | 21:58 |
| SonikkuAmerica | ianorlin: Well, we tried. | 22:02 |
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