=== sysadmin_ is now known as VlanX === sysadmin is now known as Guest17317 === sysadmin is now known as Guest89243 === Guest89243 is now known as VlanX === cdoublejj_ is now known as cdoublejj === Balsaq is now known as Guest15810 [08:27] Quick question, what is the significance of the mac builds? I use debian myself but want to get my friend started with a livecd on an older macbook pro that *is* 64-bit, but I'm wondering what the difference between the mac and pc isos? [08:29] tomatosalad: x86 and PowerPC diferent arch [08:29] oh, really? [08:29] that's a crap way of describing the files, then, because there were 32-bit intel processors [08:30] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC [08:30] The original MBP had a 32-bit Intel Core Duo [08:30] Yonah [08:31] Depends on the year [08:31] if it has Intel CPU, you can use x86 or amd64 iso [08:32] No, it doesn't. The original MacBook Pro revision, introduced in 2006, had a 32-bit Yonah Intel Core Duo processor, which was then replaced in the next revision with a 64-bit Merom Intel Core 2 Duo processor. (the MBP was also the first mac with an intel processor) [08:33] The original MacBook also had a Yonah [08:33] That's ~10 months worth of macs with 32-bit intel processors [08:34] and, anyway, they're not different arches [08:34] I'm discussing the amd64 "PC" iso and the amd64 "mac" iso [08:35] what is the functional difference? wifi drivers? [08:42] Special disks for MAC, only for powerPC [08:42] no, they're not only powerpc [08:43] there's an x64 arch for mac [09:05] tomatosalad: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu [09:05] do you realize how unhelpful you are [09:06] no :) [09:09] ordinary computer - x86 or amd64. Apple pc - new with intel cpu = the same ordinary computer with MacOS. You can install x86 or amd64 OS. if it powerpc cpu, use only powerpc images [09:19] tomatosalad: Macs use old EFI based systems that don't support multi-catalog CDs, thus they can't use the UEFI/BIOS hybrid disks. [09:23] Unit193: oh, interesting [09:23] ...are the x86 ones multi-catalog? [09:23] Oh, well close, more info http://askubuntu.com/questions/37999/what-is-different-about-the-mac-iso-image [09:23] EFI doesn't really matter in 32bit world. === xnox_ is now known as xnox [15:17] Hi people, does anyone know if its possible to have a keyboard shortcut to create a new desktop? [15:18] I used to have that feature in xubuntu, but I couldn't find anything like that in ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml [15:24] Create a new desktop? As in a new workspace? [15:28] SonikkuAmerica, Umm.. one more of the 4 desktops I already have laid out horizontally [15:51] hectorh30: Doesn't Ctrl+Alt+[Left and Right] do that? One second... [15:55] SonikkuAmerica, I've set that keys to move between desktops.. but I'd like to create a new one (and also destroy one) on demand [15:55] In XFCE I used to do that with ctrl + insert and ctrl + supr [15:59] You may wish to check this link out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2033467 [16:02] SonikkuAmerica, that's what I was looking for.. many thanks [16:02] :) yw [16:21] I always need to enter mys password on network manager, though I set all user rights in the settings. Any recommendations ? [19:12] How do I get sound to come out of my second monitor instead of my laptop? [19:12] honestemu: ? [19:12] honestemu: what are the audio connections to the speakers? [19:13] I'm connecting with an HDMI cable. [19:13] honestemu: hdmi can be problematic [19:14] honestemu: i would probably try a distro live with pulse to see if that helps.. something like xubuntu live.. if it "just works" then you can add pulse to lubuntu [19:14] otherwise, i usually just plug an analog audio cable up.. since HDMI may not work [19:14] you can try the usually steps.. routing in alsamixer in the terminal [19:14] !audio [19:14] If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !players and !mp3. [19:15] i would, from lubuntu, open a terminal and run "alsamixer" and trust no labels [20:02] Hey, I have a problem with my projector. I use e-Machnes V700 which is HD Read (720p) but when connected to my PC the only resolution I have is 800x600:60 === tamaroth_ is now known as tamaroth [20:02] xrandr shows it's the only possible mode for that output [20:04] Has anyone got any experience with dealing with projectors and/or resolutions that are not displayed [20:06] I do, but not with Lubuntu. For its lightweight size, much is sacrificed, including easily editing keyboard shortcuts. [20:07] But I'll try as best I can. [20:07] is it through a vga cable? [20:07] ^ [20:07] (ianorlin: +1) [20:09] sometimes things don't support the higher resolutions they claim to through vga and get all spread wierd and distorted [20:09] also waht resolution is your monitor currently set to? [20:11] ianorlin: it's vga -> hdmi [20:11] monitor is full hd 1920x1200 [20:11] projector is connected to another display port [20:12] so ubuntu sees it as a second monitor I guess [20:12] DVI-I-2 connected 800x600+1920+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm [20:14] is it your adapter cable has some wierd in built restriction? [20:15] So is that [M1:HDMI > DVI][M2:VGA > DVI]? [20:16] ianorlin: it works ok on Windows though [20:17] it's PC: DVI -> HDMI :Projector (if that makes any sense) [20:17] * ianorlin wonders if it is useing vesa for the driver for the projector [20:17] I don't know :( [20:19] Bah, I have to flee, I'll check the driver later ianorlin, thanks for the tip [20:19] toodles [20:44] Hello [20:45] I connected Windows Phone 8 to Lubuntu 13.10 and tried to move files insid SD card but i couldnt. I had error that its unsupported.. WHY? [20:45] I Can copy files on Windows Phone 8 SD card [20:45] But i cant move them inside SD Card [20:46] Do you have any idea why? [20:47] Tried google but couldnt get solution [20:48] what format is the sd card? [20:49] NOt sure [20:49] I formated it using Windows Phone 8 [20:51] Windows Phone 8 supports SDHC cards (in FAT file system format) or SDXC (in exFAT file system format) [20:52] I have 8GB SD card insid [20:53] WIndows Phone 8 connects to Lubuntu using MTP connection [20:53] Is it ok? [20:53] I don't think exfat works with any linux really [20:53] because of patents [20:54] But thing is i could copy on to SD Card and Delete from it. But i couldn't move files, for example ordering pictures in folders.. [20:54] I get like unsupported by backend... [20:54] Something like that. [20:55] "Operation not supported by backend" [20:55] are you using pcmanfm or terminal? [20:55] pcmanfm [20:55] Im not so advanced user :) [20:58] Is it possible Windows Phone 8 limits moving files? [20:58] does the moving the files work on the phone? [20:58] Well i cant do it on phone [20:59] On Windows Phone 8 i dont have file manager [20:59] can you create folders? on the sd card? [21:00] Yes [21:00] Using Lubuntu [21:00] why not copy organize on comp then copy whole folders and clean up duplicates [21:01] I can do that [21:01] But its complicated sometimes [21:01] ANyway [21:01] Why shouldnt i be able to move files inside SD? [21:05] I think you should but this might be some wierd bug or depending on format [21:05] hmm [21:06] You said exFAT is not supported by linux [21:06] That might be the case [21:06] Fuse supports it at least. [21:06] but i have SDHC card [21:06] not SDXC [21:06] so i have FAT propably [21:07] I think i need windows :( [21:09] Can you tell me how can i check SD format in Lubuntu? [21:10] disks utility under accesories but don't change anything [21:12] It doesnt show up [21:12] mtp://[usb:001,012]/ [21:12] heres connected my windows phone [21:13] How can i make a screenshot? [21:17] hello? [21:17] scrot from command line works [21:17] printscreen key also should [21:20] Where does it save the picture? [21:21] home folder [21:23] This is what i get moving picture to Christmas foldder inside SD card: http://i43.tinypic.com/2468htv.png [21:24] Has this something to do with permissions? [21:26] are you there? [21:28] When i right click permissions on SD card, there's: View Content: Only owner / Change content: Nobody / Access content: Nobody [21:29] What is your SD card mounted under in PCManFM? [21:30] My SD card is in Windows Phone 8 [21:30] I have connected my phone trough MTP connection [21:30] I can copy on it, delete from it but i cant reorganize and move files, like pictures in folders [21:31] I get this error when moving file inside SD: http://i43.tinypic.com/2468htv.png [21:32] Im confused :( [21:34] anyone? [21:36] Oh, it MTP'ed in from your device?? [21:37] That's a completely different ballgame. [21:37] You don't have any SD card reader? (Not even a USB one?) [21:37] SonikkuAmerica no [21:37] BUt should it be a problem? [21:39] Well I don't know why your SD card is MTP'ed; I thought the SD card would be assigned a block device [21:41] What does it mean? [21:42] I read WIndows Phone supports MTP only [21:45] Gatis: What did you do, plug your phone in directly? [21:46] Using usb cable [21:46] There's your problem. You're telling me it's an SD card when it's an MTP connection directly from your Windows Phone. [21:47] Yes i can access my SD card like that [21:47] Is there a problem with that? [21:49] okay [21:49] Not a huge one, but I have no idea how to transfer files from your Windows Phone to Lubuntu (it's a permissions issue, as you indicated, but you can't just go in and change permissions like anyone's business... [21:49] ) [21:49] Windows and Linux are 2 different things. [21:49] But why it worked with androind phone and MTP connection? [21:49] Android is Linux-based. [21:50] android does not equal windows phone [21:50] Is there a problem with SD format? [21:50] no I don't think so [21:50] I dont know what format SD has android [21:51] I doubt it, but I think it would be easier if you plugged your SD card into your computer [21:51] (if it doesn't, get a USB SD reader, they're cheap) [21:51] or windows [21:52] usb SD card reader is lot cheaper than windows [21:52] and there aren't bulky either [21:52] but i have to say windows is life saver in situations like this [21:53] But i dont understand why linux supports MTP connection [21:53] If it does not work [21:54] im not sure where is the error [21:56] people [21:57] Uh... we're working on it. [21:58] OK, is this 13.10? [21:58] (It looks like it) [22:02] ianorlin: Well, we tried.