[05:35] <jbroome> could someone banforward elusivio from #ubuntu-br to ##fix_your_connection ?  He's cycling and staff isn't on the access list
[05:35] <IdleOne> got it
[05:35] <jbroome> ty
[05:36] <jbroome> i've bounced him from about three or four channels already
[05:37] <IdleOne> ty
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> hello, are there any rules for starting ubuntu channels?
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> like #ubuntu-something?
[11:11] <ikonia> depends on what it is
[11:11] <ikonia> what are you thinking of starting ?
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> #ubuntu-ssd
[11:11] <ikonia> ssd ?
[11:11] <ikonia> what's that
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> solid state drive
[11:12] <ikonia> you want a channel - to talk about ubuntu and solid state drives
[11:12] <ikonia> are you serious ?
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> yes
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> there are many users of interest of this
[11:12] <ikonia> that seems silly - it's about 4 lines of conversation and nothing that can't be dealt with in #ubuntu
[11:12] <ikonia> yes, and it will be covered just fine in #ubuntu
[11:12] <ikonia> I don't see a need for a specific channel
[11:13] <ikonia> unless I'm missing an area of discussion I'm not aware of
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> well im sure there will be more talking of ssd's then 4lines
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> ill make sure of that
[11:14] <ikonia> what topics do you plan to cover ?
[11:14] <ikonia> "how to use an ssd in ubuntu"
[11:14] <ikonia> well, that's covered in #ubuntu and is about 4 lines, "setup trim"
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> tweaking mostly
[11:14] <ikonia> that's covered just fine in #ubuntu
[11:14] <ikonia> there is pretty limited "sweaking" you can do beyond partition alignment, trim and mount options
[11:15] <ikonia> a whole channel for that seems just overkill, more so as it would be a welcome topic in #ubuntu
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> so what you are saying it that a user cant choose to make an own channel on freenode?
[11:16] <ikonia> no, that's not what I said
[11:16] <ikonia> I said it depends on the channel
[11:16] <ikonia> putting a channel in the ubuntu namespace requires following the ubuntu guidelines
[11:17] <ikonia> and I'm saying that your suggested channel is not a good idea in my view
[11:17] <ikonia> it has a very small topic that's covered just fine in #ubuntu
[11:17] <ikonia> so it would be adding another channel to the ubuntu name space for the sake of adding a channel
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> i think its a rather big topic
[11:17] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: what more is there beyond what I've suggested
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> you got an url on those guidelines?
[11:18] <ikonia> not to hand no
[11:18] <ikonia> and I'd strongly urge you to re-think pushing this
[11:18] <ikonia> as to be honest, it just seems a bad idea, unless you can suggest how the topic is wider than what I've said
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> #ubuntu can only be used in ssd support on ubuntu, not meant for talking about it and compare/benchmark
[11:19] <ikonia> you can compare
[11:19] <ikonia> that's part of support tuning, get more out of it
[11:20] <ikonia> if you just want to list benchmarks, start a wikipage, that would be better than an IRC channel
[11:20] <ikonia> then #ubuntu-discuss would be a good place to discuss them
[11:20] <ikonia> (or even #ubuntu-offtopic  - it's a good topic)
[11:21] <ikonia> a wiki page listing benchmarks would certainly be benificial, more so if it's well maintained
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> well...
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> maybe ill just start a linux-ssd channel then
[11:22] <ikonia> go for it
[11:22] <ikonia> I don't think you'll get much taffic due to the standard linux distro channels picking this up, but if you feel there is hidden demand, go for it
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> it would have been an enrichment for ubuntu ssd users
[11:22] <ikonia> not really
[11:22] <ikonia> I don't believe so
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> in your opinion
[11:22] <ikonia> a resource of benchmarks that is maintained would provide more benifit
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> anyway ill rest my case
[11:23] <ikonia> ok
[14:12] <Pici> os/2?!
 jebs, other wise do the debian uunstable! it runs with xfce 10
[19:10] <bazhang> yeah, thats stellar advice
[19:50] <bazhang> seems to be an actual packge in the repos
[19:51] <bazhang> there is a -scripts package as well though
[19:51] <ikonia> I've only got a 10.04 box here and it's a shell script, but it maybe a binary package now, but I doubt it as it's normally a shell script in other distros too
[19:52] <bazhang> surprised me as well
[19:52] <ikonia> I suspect it's not a binary though
[19:53] <bazhang>  Version 0.7.44ubuntu3 (saucy), package size 55 kB, installed size 220 kB
[20:07] <Go|dfish_> what did i do
[20:08] <IdleOne> *!*@c-24*hsd1.ma.comcast.net
[20:51] <ikonia> hello Gatis