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lobomieanyone's got news about instant messenger and mail client? Any progress?10:03
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ozberkhi guys I have tested ubuntu touch on my galaxy nexus cia dualboot and I cans say it just sucks :) yet12:38
ozberksystem is running so slow and some applicitations are not work (such as camera and media scanner )12:39
ozberksystem booted normally but it was a bit scary because there is no boot animation12:39
ozberksound controlers are not be able to work yet and there is no settins tab12:40
ogra_what exactly did you install ... using trusty-proposed here it is slow but bearable12:40
ozberkI used the ubuntu installer app the steps below with this wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/DualBootInstallation12:41
ogra_volume control and settings definitely work for me12:41
ozberkand the channel is trusty12:42
ogra_that should be fine then12:42
ogra_strange that it seems to break with dual boot12:42
ozberkdo you use Gnex12:42
Rienzillait works fine on my nexus412:42
ogra_too, yes12:42
Rienzillathe only real drawback is the lack of apps :-)12:42
ogra_the driver is a lot slower on the maguro ....12:42
ogra_so yeah, it is slow, but still at a usable state imho12:43
ozberkI hope the developers will fix it soon I will keep ubuntu on my phone for that12:43
ogra_we might drop maguro from the supported set at some point12:43
ogra_going forward with an android 4.4 base12:43
ozberkso galaxy nexus will not be able to supported by ubuntu12:44
j-bRienzilla: apps will come, no?12:44
ozberkbecause of the android working policy ?12:44
ogra_ozberk, well, it wont see optimization12:44
ogra_it is very likely that we start to support the N5 and the 2013 N7 .... for that the maguro will likely be dropped12:45
ozberkwell then I will delete it with ubuntu installer too if you are not gonne update it anymore :)12:45
ogra_we will surely update it12:45
ogra_it wont be removed or anything12:45
ozberkthen what does ''drop'' it in here12:45
ogra_but it wont get as much attention as it does atm12:45
ogra_and not be an officially supported device anymore12:45
ogra_(fixes would have to come from the community)12:46
ozberkclassic technology marketing :D12:46
ogra_no, usin the available developer resources properly :P12:46
ozberksame thing ubuntu is not the lead android device politics Android and Google leds it12:47
ogra_the arch wont be dropped and images will be built, but devs wont focus on fixing it (like they do now) because they will work on other prots12:47
ozberkif Android decided to drop a devicethen ubuntu do the sate thing I guess12:47
ozberksame*12:47
ogra_we have the code to support the maguro ... i doubt it will get removed ... supporting an arch mean hours of testing invested etc12:48
Rienzillaj-b: I guess so12:48
ogra_and focusing on fixing HW specific bugs12:48
ogra_both of these wont happen if the team focuses on new hardware12:48
ogra_but that doesnt mman patches for fixes wont be accepted etc12:49
ogra_*mean12:49
ogra_it will just not get the same attention it has nnow12:49
ozberkwell how about that the legendary Galaxy Nexus is an ''old hardware'' :D12:49
ogra_it surely is :)12:50
ogra_compared to the others12:50
ogra_the point is that the full time dev resources are limited .... and focus has to be put somewhere12:51
ozberkcyanogen mod is ported the 4.4 on Gnex it's on nightly but works like stable now :)12:51
ogra_right, that will most likely be the base for the maguro in the furture too12:51
j-bRienzilla: which ones are the most missing?12:51
ogra_but that wont help with i.e. speeding up Mir12:51
ozberkok I will uninstall ubuntu from the ubuntu istaller safetly12:52
ogra_this will need HW specific focus and patches12:52
ogra_which will have to come from the community ... in case we drop it12:52
ozberkI guess magure  has no future in that area but CM is still going12:52
ozberkthanks you all :=12:52
ozberk:)12:52
ogra_ubuntu is CM based ;)12:52
ozberkoh you kidding me12:52
ozberkreally ?12:53
ogra_i#m just saying you shouldnt expect to much from that HW12:53
ogra_on the ubuntu side of things12:53
ogra_ubuntu uses the radio stack, kernel source (with ubuntu config) codecs and sensor drivers from android12:53
ozberkI tought the Ubuntu Touch is completly different from android but now I can see it's android too :D12:53
ogra_(namely from CM 10.2 atm)12:53
ogra_well, without these bits you wouldnt have modem or video playback12:54
ogra_it uses a tiny bit of android to make the HW work12:54
ogra_(all the binary blobs the devices need to work)12:54
ozberkok I will wait for the stable releases for Gnex I guess community can help for it12:56
ogra_beyond that small android container it is a plain ubuntu like you know it from your desktop12:56
ogra_(in a slighhtly different setup though)12:56
ozberkand maybe CM developers can help too because cyanogen mod is completly community based rom12:56
ozberkI'm using ubuntu instead of windows12:57
Rienzillaj-b: well, third party stuff I normally use. Online banking, my tv-remote, that kinda stuff12:57
Rienzillathe basics are all there (web browsing etc)12:57
ozberkI deleted windows from my life for couple of weeks ago12:57
ogra_:)12:57
ozberknow the steam is here ubuntu gives me whatever I need include gaming12:58
ozberkwell then I will keep ubuntu if it won't be supported I will remove it12:59
ozberkUI is fine I loved the UI basicly12:59
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laporhello13:00
laporI'm trying to install dual boot on my nexus413:00
lobomiewhat about those whatsapp mockups from Lucas Romero Di Benedetto?13:01
laporbut getting missing update command13:01
laporanybody knows that is wrong?13:01
lobomieI'd rather see a jabber/xmpp client but if it has to be I'm okay with whatsapp client. Better than nothing :-/13:02
laporanyone?13:04
ogra_lapor ... check bug 126381113:07
ubot5bug 1263811 in The Humpolec project "install fails just after download" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/126381113:07
ogra_oh, he is gone13:07
yamcWhat is the QML object called to read user input text? Or: Is there a tutorial/source code of an Ubuntu Touch app using user text input?13:15
justincormacktrying to install dual boot on maguro and all fine until the dual boot installer dies saying "Missing update command"13:22
ogra_justincormack,  bug 126381113:23
ubot5bug 1263811 in The Humpolec project "install fails just after download" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/126381113:23
ogra_i think there are some workarounds in that bug13:23
justincormackthanks will try them13:25
rigvedhi everyone.13:26
rigvedhas anyone tried the dual-boot method on a Samsung Galaxy Nexus yet?13:27
justincormackrigved: thats what I am trying at the minute...13:28
rigvedjustincormack: cool. let me know how it goes! i'm in the process of backing up my phone data. will try the dual-boot after that today! :)13:29
Tachyon`Can somene please have a guess at what's happening here: http://kupo.be/pics/nobuntu.jpg - Nexus 7 2012 - Android 4.4.2 - 16GB out of the 32 or so free. but this happens.13:33
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SatHi13:51
Tachyon`hi13:52
Satanyone has already installed the dual boot?13:56
Tachyon`not successfully13:57
SatI'm struggling with it...13:57
Tachyon`are you on android 4.4.2 and getting an update error?13:57
Satnop, 4.213:57
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Tachyon`oh, hrm, what's the problem?13:57
Satstuck in bootloader after first reboot when running dualboot.sh13:58
Tachyon`ah, it does hat somtimes13:58
Tachyon`just reboot phone and try aga13:58
Tachyon`in13:58
Satmy device isn't seen by my laptop after the reboot in bootloader. Just relaunched it 3-4 times13:59
Satsame problem each time13:59
Tachyon`hrm13:59
Tachyon`that's not good, you can still boot into your usual OS though?14:00
Satyes, I canboot on android without any prob14:00
Tachyon`ah, good, what device?14:00
Satsamsung galaxy nexus14:00
Tachyon`oh, don't really know that one, on a nexus 7 here14:01
Tachyon`are you using stock rom?14:01
Satyep14:01
Tachyon`is your device rooted already?14:01
Satrooted, unlocked, dev mode14:01
Tachyon`ah right, you can just use the UPDATE install method then if you're not already14:02
Satsame issue14:04
SatRebooting to bootloader < waiting for device >14:04
Satand nothing more14:04
Tachyon`do you have fastboot drivers installed14:06
Tachyon`becuse thatsounds like you don't14:06
Satthese are installed: phablet-tools android-tools-adb android-tools-fastboot14:07
Tachyon`ah, linux, should be fine then14:08
Tachyon`well, I'm at a loss14:08
Satso am I14:11
Sat:D14:11
justincormacki cant get any of the workarounds in 1263811 to work... although I havent tried a stock reflash14:31
justincormacki cant give it SU permissions, even after having installed supersu manually14:32
justincormackit never asks14:32
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pickles_Hi - is anyone around?18:10
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blake_morning20:56
blake_http://askubuntu.com/questions/397837/no-available-channels-with-ubuntu-dual-boot-on-nexus-520:56
blake_I pasted that on Ask ubuntu-- will it do anything harmful to my android install to modify the build.prop to get the Dual Boot Insaller app to use a channel to get ubuntu on the phone20:57
Tassadar_not very likely, but it will simply not work20:58
blake_where is the list of available channels?20:59
Tassadar_https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Step_4_-_Downloading_.26_Deploying_Image_to_Device21:01
Tassadar_and this is the file which the android app downloads and processes, if you mean that http://system-image.ubuntu.com/channels.json21:01
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blake_i'm gonna try editing the prop file to use mako and seeing what happens21:03
Tassadarbe my guest21:03
maprIs there a guide to build a sdk for non ubuntu hosts?21:15
xnoxblake_: that will break horribly =) but you can try for yourself.21:34
blake_I did-- it didn not work, as was suggested : p21:34
blake_anything I can do to hack it on?21:34
xnoxblake_: granted it's hard to brick nexus devices, you can always flash stock firmware on it.21:35
blake_did not work21:35
blake_flash nexus 4 firmware on it?21:35
xnoxblake_: arg. i'm saying that when you changed to mako, all it did is take nexus4 drivers which _do not_ work.21:36
xnoxblake_: there is no build for nexus 5.21:36
xnoxblake_: we are in progress porting to android 4.4 for many reasons, but it's not complete yet and hence to builds for 4.4-only devices.21:36
blake_is there a public issue tracker for that effort?21:38
xnoxblake_: everything is public. And we don't have a bug open for that, only blueprints + you can see the git trees for 4.4 at phablet.ubuntu.com21:39
ice9why only nexus 4 is required to install ubuntu touch?21:49
xnoxice9: there is a pleaora of devices that one can install ubuntu touch on.21:52
xnoxice9: for list of supported devices see - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices21:52
xnoxthe open "nexus" devices are typically best supported.21:53
gabmushello everyone22:01
gabmuscan someone give me a hand with ubuntu touch and nexus 4?22:01
ice9is the porting guide here complete https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting?22:02
ice9that's only what's needed to port to a new device?22:02
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dakergabmus: ?22:43
xnoxice9: yes and no. it's open ended, as often there are device-specific bugs, which are well device-specific and unknown until one does porting.23:06
maprDo I need multi-lib for the sdk? I only run lib64 ..23:32
nobrielHi23:44

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