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tvoss_ | j-b, ping | 08:03 |
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j-b | tvoss_: pong | 08:27 |
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j-b | lool: ping | 09:07 |
M4dH4TT3r | pong | 09:08 |
lobomie | anyone's got news about instant messenger and mail client? Any progress? | 10:03 |
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ozberk | hi guys I have tested ubuntu touch on my galaxy nexus cia dualboot and I cans say it just sucks :) yet | 12:38 |
ozberk | system is running so slow and some applicitations are not work (such as camera and media scanner ) | 12:39 |
ozberk | system booted normally but it was a bit scary because there is no boot animation | 12:39 |
ozberk | sound controlers are not be able to work yet and there is no settins tab | 12:40 |
ogra_ | what exactly did you install ... using trusty-proposed here it is slow but bearable | 12:40 |
ozberk | I used the ubuntu installer app the steps below with this wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/DualBootInstallation | 12:41 |
ogra_ | volume control and settings definitely work for me | 12:41 |
ozberk | and the channel is trusty | 12:42 |
ogra_ | that should be fine then | 12:42 |
ogra_ | strange that it seems to break with dual boot | 12:42 |
ozberk | do you use Gnex | 12:42 |
Rienzilla | it works fine on my nexus4 | 12:42 |
ogra_ | too, yes | 12:42 |
Rienzilla | the only real drawback is the lack of apps :-) | 12:42 |
ogra_ | the driver is a lot slower on the maguro .... | 12:42 |
ogra_ | so yeah, it is slow, but still at a usable state imho | 12:43 |
ozberk | I hope the developers will fix it soon I will keep ubuntu on my phone for that | 12:43 |
ogra_ | we might drop maguro from the supported set at some point | 12:43 |
ogra_ | going forward with an android 4.4 base | 12:43 |
ozberk | so galaxy nexus will not be able to supported by ubuntu | 12:44 |
j-b | Rienzilla: apps will come, no? | 12:44 |
ozberk | because of the android working policy ? | 12:44 |
ogra_ | ozberk, well, it wont see optimization | 12:44 |
ogra_ | it is very likely that we start to support the N5 and the 2013 N7 .... for that the maguro will likely be dropped | 12:45 |
ozberk | well then I will delete it with ubuntu installer too if you are not gonne update it anymore :) | 12:45 |
ogra_ | we will surely update it | 12:45 |
ogra_ | it wont be removed or anything | 12:45 |
ozberk | then what does ''drop'' it in here | 12:45 |
ogra_ | but it wont get as much attention as it does atm | 12:45 |
ogra_ | and not be an officially supported device anymore | 12:45 |
ogra_ | (fixes would have to come from the community) | 12:46 |
ozberk | classic technology marketing :D | 12:46 |
ogra_ | no, usin the available developer resources properly :P | 12:46 |
ozberk | same thing ubuntu is not the lead android device politics Android and Google leds it | 12:47 |
ogra_ | the arch wont be dropped and images will be built, but devs wont focus on fixing it (like they do now) because they will work on other prots | 12:47 |
ozberk | if Android decided to drop a devicethen ubuntu do the sate thing I guess | 12:47 |
ozberk | same* | 12:47 |
ogra_ | we have the code to support the maguro ... i doubt it will get removed ... supporting an arch mean hours of testing invested etc | 12:48 |
Rienzilla | j-b: I guess so | 12:48 |
ogra_ | and focusing on fixing HW specific bugs | 12:48 |
ogra_ | both of these wont happen if the team focuses on new hardware | 12:48 |
ogra_ | but that doesnt mman patches for fixes wont be accepted etc | 12:49 |
ogra_ | *mean | 12:49 |
ogra_ | it will just not get the same attention it has nnow | 12:49 |
ozberk | well how about that the legendary Galaxy Nexus is an ''old hardware'' :D | 12:49 |
ogra_ | it surely is :) | 12:50 |
ogra_ | compared to the others | 12:50 |
ogra_ | the point is that the full time dev resources are limited .... and focus has to be put somewhere | 12:51 |
ozberk | cyanogen mod is ported the 4.4 on Gnex it's on nightly but works like stable now :) | 12:51 |
ogra_ | right, that will most likely be the base for the maguro in the furture too | 12:51 |
j-b | Rienzilla: which ones are the most missing? | 12:51 |
ogra_ | but that wont help with i.e. speeding up Mir | 12:51 |
ozberk | ok I will uninstall ubuntu from the ubuntu istaller safetly | 12:52 |
ogra_ | this will need HW specific focus and patches | 12:52 |
ogra_ | which will have to come from the community ... in case we drop it | 12:52 |
ozberk | I guess magure has no future in that area but CM is still going | 12:52 |
ozberk | thanks you all := | 12:52 |
ozberk | :) | 12:52 |
ogra_ | ubuntu is CM based ;) | 12:52 |
ozberk | oh you kidding me | 12:52 |
ozberk | really ? | 12:53 |
ogra_ | i#m just saying you shouldnt expect to much from that HW | 12:53 |
ogra_ | on the ubuntu side of things | 12:53 |
ogra_ | ubuntu uses the radio stack, kernel source (with ubuntu config) codecs and sensor drivers from android | 12:53 |
ozberk | I tought the Ubuntu Touch is completly different from android but now I can see it's android too :D | 12:53 |
ogra_ | (namely from CM 10.2 atm) | 12:53 |
ogra_ | well, without these bits you wouldnt have modem or video playback | 12:54 |
ogra_ | it uses a tiny bit of android to make the HW work | 12:54 |
ogra_ | (all the binary blobs the devices need to work) | 12:54 |
ozberk | ok I will wait for the stable releases for Gnex I guess community can help for it | 12:56 |
ogra_ | beyond that small android container it is a plain ubuntu like you know it from your desktop | 12:56 |
ogra_ | (in a slighhtly different setup though) | 12:56 |
ozberk | and maybe CM developers can help too because cyanogen mod is completly community based rom | 12:56 |
ozberk | I'm using ubuntu instead of windows | 12:57 |
Rienzilla | j-b: well, third party stuff I normally use. Online banking, my tv-remote, that kinda stuff | 12:57 |
Rienzilla | the basics are all there (web browsing etc) | 12:57 |
ozberk | I deleted windows from my life for couple of weeks ago | 12:57 |
ogra_ | :) | 12:57 |
ozberk | now the steam is here ubuntu gives me whatever I need include gaming | 12:58 |
ozberk | well then I will keep ubuntu if it won't be supported I will remove it | 12:59 |
ozberk | UI is fine I loved the UI basicly | 12:59 |
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lapor | hello | 13:00 |
lapor | I'm trying to install dual boot on my nexus4 | 13:00 |
lobomie | what about those whatsapp mockups from Lucas Romero Di Benedetto? | 13:01 |
lapor | but getting missing update command | 13:01 |
lapor | anybody knows that is wrong? | 13:01 |
lobomie | I'd rather see a jabber/xmpp client but if it has to be I'm okay with whatsapp client. Better than nothing :-/ | 13:02 |
lapor | anyone? | 13:04 |
ogra_ | lapor ... check bug 1263811 | 13:07 |
ubot5 | bug 1263811 in The Humpolec project "install fails just after download" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1263811 | 13:07 |
ogra_ | oh, he is gone | 13:07 |
yamc | What is the QML object called to read user input text? Or: Is there a tutorial/source code of an Ubuntu Touch app using user text input? | 13:15 |
justincormack | trying to install dual boot on maguro and all fine until the dual boot installer dies saying "Missing update command" | 13:22 |
ogra_ | justincormack, bug 1263811 | 13:23 |
ubot5 | bug 1263811 in The Humpolec project "install fails just after download" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1263811 | 13:23 |
ogra_ | i think there are some workarounds in that bug | 13:23 |
justincormack | thanks will try them | 13:25 |
rigved | hi everyone. | 13:26 |
rigved | has anyone tried the dual-boot method on a Samsung Galaxy Nexus yet? | 13:27 |
justincormack | rigved: thats what I am trying at the minute... | 13:28 |
rigved | justincormack: cool. let me know how it goes! i'm in the process of backing up my phone data. will try the dual-boot after that today! :) | 13:29 |
Tachyon` | Can somene please have a guess at what's happening here: http://kupo.be/pics/nobuntu.jpg - Nexus 7 2012 - Android 4.4.2 - 16GB out of the 32 or so free. but this happens. | 13:33 |
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Sat | Hi | 13:51 |
Tachyon` | hi | 13:52 |
Sat | anyone has already installed the dual boot? | 13:56 |
Tachyon` | not successfully | 13:57 |
Sat | I'm struggling with it... | 13:57 |
Tachyon` | are you on android 4.4.2 and getting an update error? | 13:57 |
Sat | nop, 4.2 | 13:57 |
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Tachyon` | oh, hrm, what's the problem? | 13:57 |
Sat | stuck in bootloader after first reboot when running dualboot.sh | 13:58 |
Tachyon` | ah, it does hat somtimes | 13:58 |
Tachyon` | just reboot phone and try aga | 13:58 |
Tachyon` | in | 13:58 |
Sat | my device isn't seen by my laptop after the reboot in bootloader. Just relaunched it 3-4 times | 13:59 |
Sat | same problem each time | 13:59 |
Tachyon` | hrm | 13:59 |
Tachyon` | that's not good, you can still boot into your usual OS though? | 14:00 |
Sat | yes, I canboot on android without any prob | 14:00 |
Tachyon` | ah, good, what device? | 14:00 |
Sat | samsung galaxy nexus | 14:00 |
Tachyon` | oh, don't really know that one, on a nexus 7 here | 14:01 |
Tachyon` | are you using stock rom? | 14:01 |
Sat | yep | 14:01 |
Tachyon` | is your device rooted already? | 14:01 |
Sat | rooted, unlocked, dev mode | 14:01 |
Tachyon` | ah right, you can just use the UPDATE install method then if you're not already | 14:02 |
Sat | same issue | 14:04 |
Sat | Rebooting to bootloader < waiting for device > | 14:04 |
Sat | and nothing more | 14:04 |
Tachyon` | do you have fastboot drivers installed | 14:06 |
Tachyon` | becuse thatsounds like you don't | 14:06 |
Sat | these are installed: phablet-tools android-tools-adb android-tools-fastboot | 14:07 |
Tachyon` | ah, linux, should be fine then | 14:08 |
Tachyon` | well, I'm at a loss | 14:08 |
Sat | so am I | 14:11 |
Sat | :D | 14:11 |
justincormack | i cant get any of the workarounds in 1263811 to work... although I havent tried a stock reflash | 14:31 |
justincormack | i cant give it SU permissions, even after having installed supersu manually | 14:32 |
justincormack | it never asks | 14:32 |
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pickles_ | Hi - is anyone around? | 18:10 |
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blake_ | morning | 20:56 |
blake_ | http://askubuntu.com/questions/397837/no-available-channels-with-ubuntu-dual-boot-on-nexus-5 | 20:56 |
blake_ | I pasted that on Ask ubuntu-- will it do anything harmful to my android install to modify the build.prop to get the Dual Boot Insaller app to use a channel to get ubuntu on the phone | 20:57 |
Tassadar_ | not very likely, but it will simply not work | 20:58 |
blake_ | where is the list of available channels? | 20:59 |
Tassadar_ | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Step_4_-_Downloading_.26_Deploying_Image_to_Device | 21:01 |
Tassadar_ | and this is the file which the android app downloads and processes, if you mean that http://system-image.ubuntu.com/channels.json | 21:01 |
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blake_ | i'm gonna try editing the prop file to use mako and seeing what happens | 21:03 |
Tassadar | be my guest | 21:03 |
mapr | Is there a guide to build a sdk for non ubuntu hosts? | 21:15 |
xnox | blake_: that will break horribly =) but you can try for yourself. | 21:34 |
blake_ | I did-- it didn not work, as was suggested : p | 21:34 |
blake_ | anything I can do to hack it on? | 21:34 |
xnox | blake_: granted it's hard to brick nexus devices, you can always flash stock firmware on it. | 21:35 |
blake_ | did not work | 21:35 |
blake_ | flash nexus 4 firmware on it? | 21:35 |
xnox | blake_: arg. i'm saying that when you changed to mako, all it did is take nexus4 drivers which _do not_ work. | 21:36 |
xnox | blake_: there is no build for nexus 5. | 21:36 |
xnox | blake_: we are in progress porting to android 4.4 for many reasons, but it's not complete yet and hence to builds for 4.4-only devices. | 21:36 |
blake_ | is there a public issue tracker for that effort? | 21:38 |
xnox | blake_: everything is public. And we don't have a bug open for that, only blueprints + you can see the git trees for 4.4 at phablet.ubuntu.com | 21:39 |
ice9 | why only nexus 4 is required to install ubuntu touch? | 21:49 |
xnox | ice9: there is a pleaora of devices that one can install ubuntu touch on. | 21:52 |
xnox | ice9: for list of supported devices see - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices | 21:52 |
xnox | the open "nexus" devices are typically best supported. | 21:53 |
gabmus | hello everyone | 22:01 |
gabmus | can someone give me a hand with ubuntu touch and nexus 4? | 22:01 |
ice9 | is the porting guide here complete https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting? | 22:02 |
ice9 | that's only what's needed to port to a new device? | 22:02 |
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daker | gabmus: ? | 22:43 |
xnox | ice9: yes and no. it's open ended, as often there are device-specific bugs, which are well device-specific and unknown until one does porting. | 23:06 |
mapr | Do I need multi-lib for the sdk? I only run lib64 .. | 23:32 |
nobriel | Hi | 23:44 |
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