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Any progress? === shuduo is now known as shuduo|afk === VargaD_ is now known as VargaD === xnox_ is now known as xnox [12:38] hi guys I have tested ubuntu touch on my galaxy nexus cia dualboot and I cans say it just sucks :) yet [12:39] system is running so slow and some applicitations are not work (such as camera and media scanner ) [12:39] system booted normally but it was a bit scary because there is no boot animation [12:40] sound controlers are not be able to work yet and there is no settins tab [12:40] what exactly did you install ... using trusty-proposed here it is slow but bearable [12:41] I used the ubuntu installer app the steps below with this wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/DualBootInstallation [12:41] volume control and settings definitely work for me [12:42] and the channel is trusty [12:42] that should be fine then [12:42] strange that it seems to break with dual boot [12:42] do you use Gnex [12:42] it works fine on my nexus4 [12:42] too, yes [12:42] the only real drawback is the lack of apps :-) [12:42] the driver is a lot slower on the maguro .... [12:43] so yeah, it is slow, but still at a usable state imho [12:43] I hope the developers will fix it soon I will keep ubuntu on my phone for that [12:43] we might drop maguro from the supported set at some point [12:43] going forward with an android 4.4 base [12:44] so galaxy nexus will not be able to supported by ubuntu [12:44] Rienzilla: apps will come, no? [12:44] because of the android working policy ? [12:44] ozberk, well, it wont see optimization [12:45] it is very likely that we start to support the N5 and the 2013 N7 .... for that the maguro will likely be dropped [12:45] well then I will delete it with ubuntu installer too if you are not gonne update it anymore :) [12:45] we will surely update it [12:45] it wont be removed or anything [12:45] then what does ''drop'' it in here [12:45] but it wont get as much attention as it does atm [12:45] and not be an officially supported device anymore [12:46] (fixes would have to come from the community) [12:46] classic technology marketing :D [12:46] no, usin the available developer resources properly :P [12:47] same thing ubuntu is not the lead android device politics Android and Google leds it [12:47] the arch wont be dropped and images will be built, but devs wont focus on fixing it (like they do now) because they will work on other prots [12:47] if Android decided to drop a devicethen ubuntu do the sate thing I guess [12:47] same* [12:48] we have the code to support the maguro ... i doubt it will get removed ... supporting an arch mean hours of testing invested etc [12:48] j-b: I guess so [12:48] and focusing on fixing HW specific bugs [12:48] both of these wont happen if the team focuses on new hardware [12:49] but that doesnt mman patches for fixes wont be accepted etc [12:49] *mean [12:49] it will just not get the same attention it has nnow [12:49] well how about that the legendary Galaxy Nexus is an ''old hardware'' :D [12:50] it surely is :) [12:50] compared to the others [12:51] the point is that the full time dev resources are limited .... and focus has to be put somewhere [12:51] cyanogen mod is ported the 4.4 on Gnex it's on nightly but works like stable now :) [12:51] right, that will most likely be the base for the maguro in the furture too [12:51] Rienzilla: which ones are the most missing? [12:51] but that wont help with i.e. speeding up Mir [12:52] ok I will uninstall ubuntu from the ubuntu istaller safetly [12:52] this will need HW specific focus and patches [12:52] which will have to come from the community ... in case we drop it [12:52] I guess magure has no future in that area but CM is still going [12:52] thanks you all := [12:52] :) [12:52] ubuntu is CM based ;) [12:52] oh you kidding me [12:53] really ? [12:53] i#m just saying you shouldnt expect to much from that HW [12:53] on the ubuntu side of things [12:53] ubuntu uses the radio stack, kernel source (with ubuntu config) codecs and sensor drivers from android [12:53] I tought the Ubuntu Touch is completly different from android but now I can see it's android too :D [12:53] (namely from CM 10.2 atm) [12:54] well, without these bits you wouldnt have modem or video playback [12:54] it uses a tiny bit of android to make the HW work [12:54] (all the binary blobs the devices need to work) [12:56] ok I will wait for the stable releases for Gnex I guess community can help for it [12:56] beyond that small android container it is a plain ubuntu like you know it from your desktop [12:56] (in a slighhtly different setup though) [12:56] and maybe CM developers can help too because cyanogen mod is completly community based rom [12:57] I'm using ubuntu instead of windows [12:57] j-b: well, third party stuff I normally use. Online banking, my tv-remote, that kinda stuff [12:57] the basics are all there (web browsing etc) [12:57] I deleted windows from my life for couple of weeks ago [12:57] :) [12:58] now the steam is here ubuntu gives me whatever I need include gaming [12:59] well then I will keep ubuntu if it won't be supported I will remove it [12:59] UI is fine I loved the UI basicly === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [13:00] hello [13:00] I'm trying to install dual boot on my nexus4 [13:01] what about those whatsapp mockups from Lucas Romero Di Benedetto? [13:01] but getting missing update command [13:01] anybody knows that is wrong? [13:02] I'd rather see a jabber/xmpp client but if it has to be I'm okay with whatsapp client. Better than nothing :-/ [13:04] anyone? [13:07] lapor ... check bug 1263811 [13:07] bug 1263811 in The Humpolec project "install fails just after download" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1263811 [13:07] oh, he is gone [13:15] What is the QML object called to read user input text? Or: Is there a tutorial/source code of an Ubuntu Touch app using user text input? [13:22] trying to install dual boot on maguro and all fine until the dual boot installer dies saying "Missing update command" [13:23] justincormack, bug 1263811 [13:23] bug 1263811 in The Humpolec project "install fails just after download" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1263811 [13:23] i think there are some workarounds in that bug [13:25] thanks will try them [13:26] hi everyone. [13:27] has anyone tried the dual-boot method on a Samsung Galaxy Nexus yet? [13:28] rigved: thats what I am trying at the minute... [13:29] justincormack: cool. let me know how it goes! i'm in the process of backing up my phone data. will try the dual-boot after that today! :) [13:33] Can somene please have a guess at what's happening here: http://kupo.be/pics/nobuntu.jpg - Nexus 7 2012 - Android 4.4.2 - 16GB out of the 32 or so free. but this happens. === Namidairo is now known as Namidairo`bnc [13:51] Hi [13:52] hi [13:56] anyone has already installed the dual boot? [13:57] not successfully [13:57] I'm struggling with it... [13:57] are you on android 4.4.2 and getting an update error? [13:57] nop, 4.2 === Namidairo`bnc is now known as Namidairo [13:57] oh, hrm, what's the problem? [13:58] stuck in bootloader after first reboot when running dualboot.sh [13:58] ah, it does hat somtimes [13:58] just reboot phone and try aga [13:58] in [13:59] my device isn't seen by my laptop after the reboot in bootloader. Just relaunched it 3-4 times [13:59] same problem each time [13:59] hrm [14:00] that's not good, you can still boot into your usual OS though? [14:00] yes, I canboot on android without any prob [14:00] ah, good, what device? [14:00] samsung galaxy nexus [14:01] oh, don't really know that one, on a nexus 7 here [14:01] are you using stock rom? [14:01] yep [14:01] is your device rooted already? [14:01] rooted, unlocked, dev mode [14:02] ah right, you can just use the UPDATE install method then if you're not already [14:04] same issue [14:04] Rebooting to bootloader < waiting for device > [14:04] and nothing more [14:06] do you have fastboot drivers installed [14:06] becuse thatsounds like you don't [14:07] these are installed: phablet-tools android-tools-adb android-tools-fastboot [14:08] ah, linux, should be fine then [14:08] well, I'm at a loss [14:11] so am I [14:11] :D [14:31] i cant get any of the workarounds in 1263811 to work... although I havent tried a stock reflash [14:32] i cant give it SU permissions, even after having installed supersu manually [14:32] it never asks === Namidairo is now known as Namidairo`bnc === tito_ is now known as tito [18:10] Hi - is anyone around? === winb_ is now known as winb [20:56] morning [20:56] http://askubuntu.com/questions/397837/no-available-channels-with-ubuntu-dual-boot-on-nexus-5 [20:57] I pasted that on Ask ubuntu-- will it do anything harmful to my android install to modify the build.prop to get the Dual Boot Insaller app to use a channel to get ubuntu on the phone [20:58] not very likely, but it will simply not work [20:59] where is the list of available channels? [21:01] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Step_4_-_Downloading_.26_Deploying_Image_to_Device [21:01] and this is the file which the android app downloads and processes, if you mean that http://system-image.ubuntu.com/channels.json === Tassadar_ is now known as Tassadar [21:03] i'm gonna try editing the prop file to use mako and seeing what happens [21:03] be my guest [21:15] Is there a guide to build a sdk for non ubuntu hosts? [21:34] blake_: that will break horribly =) but you can try for yourself. [21:34] I did-- it didn not work, as was suggested : p [21:34] anything I can do to hack it on? [21:35] blake_: granted it's hard to brick nexus devices, you can always flash stock firmware on it. [21:35] did not work [21:35] flash nexus 4 firmware on it? [21:36] blake_: arg. i'm saying that when you changed to mako, all it did is take nexus4 drivers which _do not_ work. [21:36] blake_: there is no build for nexus 5. [21:36] blake_: we are in progress porting to android 4.4 for many reasons, but it's not complete yet and hence to builds for 4.4-only devices. [21:38] is there a public issue tracker for that effort? [21:39] blake_: everything is public. And we don't have a bug open for that, only blueprints + you can see the git trees for 4.4 at phablet.ubuntu.com [21:49] why only nexus 4 is required to install ubuntu touch? [21:52] ice9: there is a pleaora of devices that one can install ubuntu touch on. [21:52] ice9: for list of supported devices see - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [21:53] the open "nexus" devices are typically best supported. [22:01] hello everyone [22:01] can someone give me a hand with ubuntu touch and nexus 4? [22:02] is the porting guide here complete https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting? [22:02] that's only what's needed to port to a new device? === ricardodrosales is now known as ricdros [22:43] gabmus: ? [23:06] ice9: yes and no. it's open ended, as often there are device-specific bugs, which are well device-specific and unknown until one does porting. [23:32] Do I need multi-lib for the sdk? I only run lib64 .. [23:44] Hi