[00:04] <JacobGuy7800> Hello?
[00:04] <JacobGuy7800> I have a problem with ubuntu
[00:04] <JacobGuy7800> It's not drawing the screen
[00:05] <JacobGuy7800> Ubuntu installer isn't drawing the screen
[00:05] <JacobGuy7800> It's leaving a cursor trail
[00:05] <thom_r> jacobGuy7800, are you booted from usb or dvd?
[00:05] <JacobGuy7800> DVD
[00:05] <vbgunz> I'm really getting burnt up with the forums. I can't login using sso (I'm new to it). I haven't logged into ubuntu forums in quite a long time and trying to do so now is a real pita. I keep getting "That username is already in use or does not meet the administrator's standards. If you are shipit-ubuntulinux-org and you have forgotten your password, click here."
[00:06] <vbgunz> I changed my preferred email address, I have no idea what to do, I cannot reclaim my old account
[00:06] <JacobGuy7800> It's installed, now..
[00:06] <thom_r> JacobGuy7800: try a usb, dvd's run pretty slow sometimes
[00:06] <JacobGuy7800> thom_r, It's installed now
[00:06] <thom_r> JacobGuy7800: what kind of hardware is it?
[00:06] <JacobGuy7800> thom_r It's a nvidia 760
[00:07] <thom_r> sounds like a driver issue
[00:07] <JacobGuy7800> ok
[00:08] <thom_r> what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[00:08] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[00:08] <JacobGuy7800> thom_r 13.10, i'll just install the drivers
[00:08] <vbgunz> I'm trying to post a solution I came up with for mic hissing, crackling in pulseaudio where it was also responsible for terrible sound in some games and terrible stuttering in others
[00:09] <JacobGuy7800> Hey does wubi work on windows 8?
[00:09] <vbgunz> I cannot recover my ubuntuforums account, this really sucks
[00:09] <OerHeks> JacobGuy7800, no.
[00:10] <JacobGuy7800> OerHeks Ok what can I use that's like wubi for win8?
[00:10] <thom_r> vbgunz: crackling and hissing sound, and you have tried changing pulse audio?
[00:10] <carolos> what is the channel for kali linux
[00:10] <vbgunz> thom_r: what do you mean changing pulseaudio?
[00:10] <bekks> !kali | carolos
[00:10] <vbgunz> like turning it off and using alsa instead?
[00:10] <thom_r> vbgunz: I mean the settings there
[00:11] <OerHeks> JacobGuy7800, virtualbox is a free solution, but best solution is a real install, side by side.
[00:11] <smithzv> I just got an update that wanted to replace Grub, normally I wouldn't have noticed, but it said that I had a customized Grub config (which I don't remember doing).  I asked it to show the differences, it didn't and instead completed the update (I assume).  What is going on and do I need to worry?
[00:11] <vbgunz> well, nothing in pavucontrol or alsamixer helped me at all, I've had a problem for more than a year with this and I just came up with the solution for it, was trying to post it on an old forum post but I cannot log into the forums
[00:12] <lukecarrier> urgh I hate dpkg
[00:12] <thom_r> so you got it fixed?
[00:12] <vbgunz> thom_r: yes
[00:12] <lukecarrier> documentation sucks and the tools are really difficult to understand because they're so fragmented
[00:12] <thom_r> ok, I had a very similar issue and I was going to link you to a post on how to fix it, but you got it fixed.
[00:13] <vbgunz> I left a post open from about a year ago maybe begging for help. I remember distinctly stating that I hope I don't end up in a corner case. that was the last post a year ago. I finally solved it and want to post it there.
[00:13] <lukecarrier> does anybody have any input whatsoever on taking an existing package in the Ubuntu repos and updating it to its newest upstream release?
[00:13] <thom_r> how did you fix it?
[00:13] <vbgunz> man, the forums is kind of upsetting atm
[00:13] <glitsj16> vbgunz: have you tried contacting ubuntuforums thru http://ubuntuforums.org/sendmessage.php yet?
[00:14] <vbgunz> glitsj16: no, been stuck last half hour trying to log in and recover but keep getting stumped at finally logging in
[00:14] <vbgunz> glitsj16: The administrator may have required you to register before you can view this page.
[00:14] <vbgunz> :/
[00:15] <glitsj16> vbgunz: i don't know how the forums administration works, just seems a good idea to contact them about your issue.. :)
[00:18] <carolos> that's probably the funniest name i've ever seen
[00:18] <vbgunz> can someone do me a big favor?
[00:19] <lukecarrier> uscan is supposed to run uupdate
[00:19] <bekks> 2
[00:19] <lukecarrier> psht
[00:19] <lukecarrier> yeah right
[00:19] <vbgunz> if you have a forums account, can you send a private message to the user "vbgunz"?
[00:19] <vbgunz> just say hi
[00:21] <carolos> how come kali linux never came with slowloris
[00:22] <bekks> carolos: Do you have an actual Ubuntu support question?
[00:22] <SynCorp> bekks: No
[00:24] <glitsj16> vbgunz: done
[00:24] <vbgunz> glitsj16: thanks!
[00:25] <glitsj16> vbgunz: no trouble, hope you get things worked out
[00:25] <vbgunz> Ubuntu Forums from glitsj16, entitled "testing"
[00:25] <vbgunz> I got the email now trying to log into that account is a satanic ritual
[00:26] <glitsj16> vbgunz: that'll be it yes
[00:26] <vbgunz> heh
[00:26] <lukecarrier> thanks to whichever maintainer never reads his emails: apache2: Syntax error on line 34 of /home/luke/Code/LukeCarrier/LibsoupPpa/libsoup2.4-2.42.2/libsoup2.4-2.42.3/tests/httpd.conf: module unixd_module is built-in and can't be loaded
[00:26] <vbgunz> hmm, it came in at a weird email address
[00:26] <vbgunz> major thanks glitsj16, I really appreciate that
[00:27] <glitsj16> vbgunz: when preparing the message i was offered a dropdown containing vbgunz and vbgunz2 .. that's about all i know of satanic rituals lol
[00:29] <vbgunz> glitsj16: thanks to you, I recovered my account, big thanks!
[00:29] <Balzy_> hello, any good reason not to trow away some old cd-rom with very very old ubuntu releases (5.10 - 8.10)?
[00:29] <glitsj16> vbgunz: yw
[00:29] <micros> hello. i am trying to sftp to my box but the client always prompts for a password (as opposed to key passphrase). the auth.log shows Connection closed by x.x.x.x [preauth]. any ideas?  ssh via putty with the ppk version of the same pem key file seems to work ok using the key passphrase.
[00:30] <citizensnips> hello is anyone there?
[00:30] <micros> ih
[00:30] <daftykins> yes
[00:30] <citizensnips> Hi :) I've got a couple questions that I would love if they were answere
[00:30] <citizensnips> d*
[00:31] <micros> i dont i can help. im a linux newb
[00:31] <Balzy_> citizensnips ask, if somebody knows the answer he will reply
[00:32] <Guest89512> hi guys
[00:32] <citizensnips> My new project is to put ubuntu onto a windows 8 laptop, but when getting into the boot screen on the BIOS I am not getting a USB boot option
[00:33] <Guest89512> My name is like guest, how i can change this in smuxi?
[00:33] <Guest89512> Somebody knows?
[00:34] <lukecarrier> Guest89512,  /nick joebloggs
[00:36] <demophobia> !dbus
[00:36] <Balzy_> citizensnips wait a second
[00:36] <Balzy_> I can help you
[00:36] <citizensnips> Perfect!
[00:37] <K1CKA55> Hello, Anyone else expierncing an issue with booting into a black screen with a mouse cursor but it draws the desktop as soon as password is typed in.
[00:38] <Balzy_> citizensnips you must plug in the drive (don't remove it from now on) enter the BIOS configuration screen and set as first boot device your drive, then it should work, remember after ubuntu is installed to remove the drive
[00:38] <Balzy_> citizensnips do you have little experience with the BIOS screen and also with installing ubuntu?
[00:38] <citizensnips> Balzy_ the option for that drive isn't even coming up?
[00:39] <citizensnips> Balzy_ This is actually a project my dad is working on and ran into trouble with, so I told him that I would sound out the channels for help. He's got experience working in the BIOS, but I dont think any with Ubuntu
[00:39] <axizor> can someone help me setup a simple samba share please
[00:40] <axizor> im having problems in 13.10
[00:40] <axizor> never had issues in 12.04
[00:40] <Guest89512> Guys, someboy know a good screen recorder for ubuntu? i'm using Kazam, but its so slow... :(
[00:40] <naryfa> Hello, I have a joke: sudo apt-get install Windows XP
[00:42] <Balzy_> citizensnips look here: http://www.esaugumas.lt/images/336/bios.jpg
[00:42] <Balzy_> citizensnips here and here: http://www.consulenti-ict.it/images/stories/Bios-BootPriority.jpg
[00:42] <Balzy_> http://clonezilla.org/clonezilla-live/doc/01_Save_disk_image/images/ocs-00-boot-dev-priority-bios.png
[00:43] <citizensnips> which one should I tell him to run?
[00:43] <Balzy_> depending on your bios verision you should have a frame, or how it is called, where you can set the priority which will be followed during bootstrap
[00:43] <Balzy_> citizensnips you mean which device?
[00:44] <impossible> is the laptopbrightness button glitch something ubuntu is working on
[00:44] <glitsj16> Guest89512: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/12/simple-screen-recorder-linux claims to be fast, i never had issues with kazam being slow so i never tried simplescreenrecorder
[00:44] <citizensnips> Balzy_ Just tell him to set his USB device as the first one, then it will work?
[00:44] <citizensnips> Balzy_ because he already tried that, but it didn't work
[00:45] <Balzy_> yes, does it read the usb drive while starting?
[00:45] <Balzy_> citizensnips do you see the light flashing?
[00:45] <hank_pachaca> Hi fellows. Is there anyway to install Wine 1.7.8 instead of 1.7.9 on Ubuntu?
[00:45] <daixtr> hallo.. how can i disable 'guest' in ubuntu? i tried but could not find the file /etc/lightdm/lighdm.conf
[00:45] <bobptz> guys, I found errors in my GRUB settings.  Anybody can help me fix them?
[00:45] <idueppe> Is mdadm and gpt not supported by 12.04?
[00:46] <citizensnips> It can read the drive, but it says there isn't any bootable image
[00:46] <Balzy_> ah okay, so the problem is the image on the drive
[00:46] <Balzy_> how did you write the image?
[00:46] <aFeijo> Hey folks :) I installed sendmail in this new VPS server I created this week, but the emails are not been sent. How can I find out the cause?
[00:47] <axizor> can anyone please help me setup a basic samba share
[00:47] <citizensnips> So there are potentially two issues, one is the boot image not being correct, the other is that there is no option to add devices to the boot sequence
[00:48] <hank_pachaca> Any expert in Wine present?
[00:48] <ikonia> try the #winehq channel
[00:48] <hank_pachaca> thx
[00:48] <citizensnips> Balzy_ also the image was made with unetbootin-windows-585
[00:48] <Balzy_> well, if you set the usb drive as first option and when booting (trying to boot) the light of the drive flashes and it tells you "no bootable image"
[00:49] <Balzy_> citizensnips it is probably due to the way you wrote the image
[00:49] <htns> hello
[00:49] <thom_r> citizensnips: try making the live usb again
[00:49] <[Jano]> hank_pachaca: Why not 1.79 from repository ? this 1.78 version: http://sourceforge.net/projects/wine/files/Source/wine-1.7.8.tar.bz2/download?use_mirror=garr
[00:50] <htns> can anybody here recommend a good terminal emulator for fluxbox?
[00:50] <htns> ive tried rxvt but it doesnt work well with copy/paste in vnc :\
[00:51] <Balzy_> citizensnips did you format the drive right before putting on the image?
[00:51] <Balzy_> do you have any other files on it?
[00:51] <citizensnips> what's the correct format for the drive Balzy_
[00:52] <aFeijo> Hey folks :) I installed sendmail in this new VPS server I created this week, but the emails are not been sent. How can I find out the cause?
[00:52] <Beldar> bobptz, I saw the bootinfo, can you detail the problem you're having to the channel, and end goal.
[00:52] <Balzy_> citizenship you don't have to format it by yourself, there should be a tick option in unetbootin
[00:53] <Jordan_U> bobptz: What problem are you having specifically?
[00:53] <Balzy_> citizenship also try following this guide, seems really detailed: http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/2013/09/install-ubuntu-linux-alongside-windows.html
[00:54] <Balzy_> citizenship you could try following this to make the usb bootable stick
[00:54] <Balzy_> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[00:54] <Balzy_> with Universal USB installer, I've always used this one and it worked great
[00:55] <Balzy_> citizenship try with Universal USB installer first :)
[00:55] <glitsj16> aFeijo: maybe you can find some clues in /var/log/mail.err and /var/log/mail.log
[00:56] <citizensnips> Balzy_ we are looking at the screen right now, and there is no tick box for formatting the drive? Does it have to be in FAT32 or in NTSC?
[00:56] <aFeijo> glitsj16, found something in mail.err, config error: mail loops back to me
[00:56] <Balzy_> citizenships sorry did you read the previous messages? I wrote your name without the ending s, check those
[00:57] <Balzy_> citizenships write your stick with universal USB installer, as suggested by the official ubuntu website and as I have always done
[00:58] <glitsj16> aFeijo: that's a start i guess, never was any good with mail servers personally, perhaps prepare a paste with the exact error(s) and your config and put it out here for people to look at
[00:58] <citizensnips> Balzy_ The Pen Drive Linux installer, correct?
[00:58] <aFeijo> glitsj16, I might :) thanks
[00:59] <vbgunz> if anybody here is having poor performance in games, due to stuttering, has audio problems and stutters in some games, microphone sounds terrible, compositing is buggy, try this solution http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2159373&p=12886274#post12886274
[00:59] <vbgunz> it's not meant to tweak anything, it's really meant to address those problems, you gotta have those problems for it to work
[00:59] <vbgunz> I really want to know if this works for anybody else
[00:59] <Balzy_> citizensnips yep that link!
[00:59] <ikonia> vbgunz: pushing people randomly at fixes without understanding the problems others have is not really something that should be done
[01:00] <Balzy_> citizenships there there should be the "format option"
[01:00] <juliano_> s
[01:00] <vbgunz> ikonia: I sort of tried describing it. I've dealt with it for several releases. I'm damn happy I solved it, no one else. I'm pretty happy with that and want to share that with others
[01:00] <citizensnips> Balzy_ yeah I can see that option there
[01:00] <Balzy_> citizensnips what? your nick's not citizenship(s) ... Feeling dumb
[01:01] <juliano_> Alternatives for Kazam Screencaster?
[01:01] <ikonia> vbgunz: yes, but putting hte link to people who don't have a problem, or may not have the same problem is not really something we recommend in the channel
[01:01] <juliano_> I don't line Desktop Recorder :)
[01:01] <hank_pachaca> [Jano] Thanks for the link. I'm not sure, but I think the program I use don't run with 1.7.9. I will do more testing to clarify.
[01:01] <Balzy_> citizensnips :D I read it quickly and convinced myself it was something else gh
[01:01] <ikonia> vbgunz: working a problem through to find out if that fix has any relevence before recommending it is how to proceed please.
[01:01] <citizensnips> haha
[01:01] <Balzy_> citizensnips yeah try that way and tell me if you can boot then
[01:02] <citizensnips> Balzy_ do we choose just plain Ubuntu, or the Ubuntu boot CD?
[01:02] <gdi2k> I did a fresh install of 12.04 yesterday. Now it seems my user is no longer a member of the sudo group and I never set a root password. So I booted into recovery mode and used root to try to add my user to the sudo group, but it fails with "cannot lock /etc/passwd try again later". I tried just changing the root password, but it times out with Authentication token manipulation error. Any ideas?
[01:03] <ikonia> gdi2k: "no longer" - that implies it once was
[01:03] <Balzy_> citizensnips I don't know, I've never seen that option
[01:03] <thom_r> dgi2k: did you try tunning sudo su
[01:03] <ikonia> gdi2k: the user created at install time should be added to the sudo group, if that's not happened your install has not worked
[01:03] <ikonia> thom_r: no - that is just wrong
[01:03] <Balzy_> citizensnips does it tell something more about the 2 options?
[01:03] <citizensnips> Balzy_ on the Linux distribution dropdown menu
[01:03] <gdi2k> ikonia, yes, when I installed, I was the first user, and obviously was a member of adm and sudo
[01:03] <juliano_> gdi2k: You have a pen drive with linux live?
[01:03] <gdi2k> yes
[01:03] <gdi2k> chroot?
[01:04] <ikonia> gdi2k: so after a clean install it's not a member of the sudo group ?
[01:04] <gdi2k> after a clean install it was, then I installed LTSP and added a bunch of users to the system and assigned home directories, and now it's brokenb
[01:04] <ikonia> gdi2k: ok - so you probably made a user error
[01:04] <ikonia> gdi2k: just re-add it
[01:04] <gdi2k> possibly
[01:05] <ikonia> gdi2k: no need to set the root password or break the permissions model
[01:05] <Balzy_> citizensnips I think Plain ubuntu is for running ubuntu from the usb as if it was your hard-disk while the boot option is for installing it, please somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
[01:05] <gdi2k> re-adding results in he "cannot lock /etc/passwd - try again later" error
[01:05] <gdi2k> at least from recovery console
[01:05] <Balzy_> citizensnips go with the boot one, if it will show you an option/icon for installing ubuntu it's the right one
[01:05] <citizensnips> Balzy_ the iso that we are using is 12.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso so we've picked the dropdown menu "Ubuntu" rather than "Ubuntu boot CD"
[01:06] <ikonia> gdi2k: how are you re-addeding the user exactly
[01:07] <demophobia> Is there a way to adjust monitor brightness in Ubuntu 12.04? Trying to adjust it manually on the monitor itself, it says the Brightness is at 0 while the Contrast is locked at 80 with 'Not Available' for the adjustment controls, so I wonder if it's 'Not Available' because of some interplay with the operating system.
[01:07] <gdi2k> ikonia, usermod -a -G sudo gdi2k
[01:07] <ikonia> gdi2k: can you check your user with the command "id" please.
[01:07] <Balzy_> citizensnips well, good point, maybe ubuntu boot CD is something completely different
[01:08] <gdi2k> ikonia, sec, booting from live cd now, hoping for better luck with that
[01:08] <gdi2k> ikonia, but it's 1000
[01:08] <K1CKA55> I got a odd issue. Black screen with a mouse cursor where the login should be fixed by logging in. Anyone have any suggestions?
[01:08] <ikonia> gdi2k: then it's not got permissions to modify the password file
[01:09] <Guest32564> hi, I have an xps m1210 but no sound.  it appears the sounds works through the system settings but alas, no sound.  any ideas?
[01:09] <q0> Do I have to set $CVSROOT every time ? What's the way to set it permanently ?
[01:09] <techinstein> hi
[01:09] <gdi2k> ikonia, my regular user is 1000 but root (from console) is 0 I think
[01:09] <techinstein> doesn anyone know how to get conky working on 13.10?
[01:09] <q0> I don't understand why everyone - not most but EVERYONE-  chooses to type it before "co" or "update" ?
[01:10] <ikonia> gdi2k: check
[01:10] <citizensnips> Balzy_ ok we are currently formatting the USB drive
[01:10] <q0> And how ridiculously time consuming it is.. Finding how to set CVSROOT. I must be braindead
[01:11] <Balzy_> citizensnips good, do you know how to install ubuntu without messing up with windows?
[01:11] <Balzy_> citizensnips pay attention not to delete/replace windows partition
[01:11] <citizensnips> Balzy_ I am a total Ubuntu noob so nope :)
[01:11] <q0> So, if you will, help me find out how to set CVSROOT permanently, please
[01:12] <gdi2k> ikonia, back in recovery console as root. id shows uid=0 gid=0 and groups=
[01:12] <Wayward_Vagabond> Balzy_: Does the machine in question have a spare partition?
[01:12] <gdi2k> 0
[01:12] <Balzy_> citizensnips then check this: http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/2013/09/install-ubuntu-linux-alongside-windows.html
[01:12] <ikonia> gdi2k: ok, run the command and give me the exact output please.
[01:12] <ikonia> (from the recovery console)
[01:12] <Balzy_> Wayward_Vagabond don't know, ask citizensnips
[01:13] <Wayward_Vagabond> citizensnips: if it does, it can be done quite easily
[01:13] <Wayward_Vagabond> if not, it may or may not even be possible
[01:13] <Balzy_> citizensnips follow the guide I just linked you when it comes to editing the partitions and choosing where to install ubuntu
[01:13] <noideas> bobptz: Okay I am just considering the one hard drive you want to install ubuntu and grub. Can you tell me what the partitions on that hard drive are?
[01:13] <Balzy_> Wayward_Vagabond as far as he told me, it's a pre-installed win8 pc
[01:14] <gdi2k> ikonia, "usermod: cannot lock /etc/passwd; try again later."
[01:14] <ikonia> gdi2k: is the file system mounted read/write
[01:14] <Wayward_Vagabond> Ah, my policy with a preinstalled system is to /always/ wipe the drive and start fresh
[01:14] <citizensnips> Wayward_Vagabond It is a completely stock and practically brand new windows 8 laptop
[01:14] <gdi2k> ikonia, you're right, it's mounted read only
[01:14] <ikonia> gdi2k: we have a winner
[01:14] <gdi2k> :)
[01:14] <Wayward_Vagabond> So I've got nothing helpfull on the matter
[01:15] <Wayward_Vagabond> sorry
[01:15] <bobptz> noideas, if I reinstall ubuntu, then I want to format the partitions that ubuntu is now
[01:15] <qin> q0: only coz your nick had yellow color: http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/987/cvs-set-cvsroot-environment-variable/
[01:15] <bobptz> maybe I will merge some of the partitions
[01:15] <bobptz> and then I want to install ubuntu in a partiion that I will name UBUNTU
[01:15] <gdi2k> ikonia, if I look at mount, my partition (md0) is mounted rw, but if I try and touch /test it fails with read-only error... can I unmount root and remount it without causing carnage?
[01:16] <bobptz> noideas, like I wanted to do with E:
[01:16] <ikonia> gdi2k: mount -o remount rw
[01:16] <citizensnips> Balzy_ basically the issue with the whole installation process was that it was not even possible to boot Ubuntu off of the drive, since the BIOS was not giving the option to boot from the drive
[01:17] <ikonia> gdi2k: is it a software or fakeraid device ?
[01:17] <gdi2k> ikonia, software
[01:17] <ikonia> gdi2k: worth checking the raid device state
[01:17] <ikonia> gdi2k: that maybe why it's dropping into read only mode
[01:17] <thom_r> citizensnips: have you tried disabling secure boot? Have you tried enabling Legacy mode?
[01:17] <Balzy_> citizensnips no, it was not possible because the image on the stick wasn't written in the proper way, I think, from what you told me
[01:17] <nicole2> hello
[01:17] <Balzy_> citizensnips done with usb installer? tell me when you try booting it
[01:18] <noideas> bobptz: Would you be able to provide the reason for why you want you ubuntu partition to be associated with the letter E:\ ?
[01:18] <citizensnips> Balzy_ it is very close
[01:18] <gdi2k> ikonia, yeh, I have md1 intentionally degraded, but md0 is complete, so I wasn't expecting it to be mouned ro
[01:18] <FelipeGarcia> Alguem Do Brasil?
[01:18] <bobptz> noideas, no, no problem
[01:18] <ikonia> gdi2k: odd one, mount it rw see what happens
[01:18] <lukecarrier> Not receiving emails from launchpad
[01:18] <bobptz> noideas I just want to know where it will be installed
[01:18] <citizensnips> thom_r should secure boot be disabled as well as legacy mode enabled?
[01:18] <lukecarrier> I need to verify ownership of a key
[01:18] <ikonia> bobptz: it will now show up in windows
[01:18] <lukecarrier> is there no other way?
[01:18] <nicole2> I have a Dell XPS M1210 but no sound, system settings seem ok.  any ideas?
[01:19] <bobptz> noideas I know that Ubuntu requires about 20 gb.  So I want to make a partition of 20gb and place it there
[01:19] <thom_r> citizensnips: Legacy mode shouldn't have to be. I usually disable secure boot when I am installing a Linux OS.
[01:19] <demophobia> !daemon
[01:19] <bobptz> noideas, ok, maybe I did it wrong, maybe I need some clear instructions on how to install ubuntu in a Windows pc
[01:19] <demophobia> What is a daemon? ...
[01:19] <ikonia> bobptz: it will not show up in windows - so you don't assign a drive letter to it
[01:20]  * demophobia searches the internet.
[01:20] <ikonia> !install | bobptz
[01:20] <gdi2k> ikonia, looks like it worked, added to sudo group without any grumbles, rebooting now to test
[01:20] <q0> qin, your kind shall inherit earth
[01:20] <noideas> bobptz: So if I am understanding this correctly you want a visual representation of where ubuntu is installed?
[01:20] <ikonia> gdi2k: cool
[01:20]  * demophobia finds http://askubuntu.com/questions/26542/what-is-a-daemon
[01:20] <q0> thank you
[01:20] <bobptz> noideas, YES
[01:20] <Balzy_> citizensnips good, and for your files' sake, pay attention when editing the partitions! follow very carefully the guide I linked you
[01:20] <citizensnips> Balzy_ the driver was done
[01:20] <Balzy_> citizensnips try to boot!
[01:21] <noideas> bobptz: Okay, so now I know why your Grub is not working properly
[01:21] <vimes> hello, trying to install ubuntu LTS but I fail to boot it. I boot from uSB but get to 'Minimal BASH-like edition is supported" and it says "GNU GRUB VERISION 1.99-21ubuntu3.10" at the top
[01:21] <bobptz> noideas, I had no problems for more than a year
[01:21] <vimes> the computer also has crunchbang which I will delete, no windows
[01:21] <bobptz> noideas  why did it break today?
[01:22] <bobptz> !automate
[01:22] <thom_r> vimes: are you trying to boot from dvd or usb?
[01:22] <noideas> bobptz: Wait, so it has always been associated with the drive letter E:\ ?
[01:22] <bobptz> noides, NO. I made that partition in order to install it there.  But it did not install there
[01:23] <noideas> bobptz: How recent?
[01:23] <gdi2k> ikonia, awesome, all good now, thanks for your help. I must have deleted all my grop memberships somehow as I am now just a member of my own group and sudo (having fixed that). Should I be a member of any other groups like adm?
[01:23] <demophobia> What is TTY in the context of a daemon?
[01:23] <bobptz> noideas, the installation was exactly last year
[01:23] <bobptz> and it broke today
[01:23] <ikonia> gdi2k: nothing "needed" you can always add to it if you find a need to
[01:23] <vimes> any one?
[01:23] <bobptz> my niece playon on my pc, maybe she broke it
[01:24] <thom_r> vimes: are you trying to boot from dvd or usb?
[01:24] <vimes> usb
[01:24] <noideas> bobptz: Possible but i doubt it.
[01:24] <vimes> installed it with uninet
[01:24] <vimes> tried Lilo too, same problem
[01:24] <noideas> bobptz: From my experience you have to have a black partition. Unformatted in order to install an operating system
[01:24] <Balzy_> citizensnips working?
[01:25] <citizensnips> Balzy_ we are currently disabling the secure boot right now
[01:25] <bobptz> noideas, I do not know how to create an unformated partition.  Ubuntu should be able to format it in the way desirable
[01:25] <noideas> bobptz: associating a partition with a drive letter that is part of another operating system form my understanding would alter the installation
[01:25] <citizensnips> Balzy_ just disable secure boot, then go into the BIOS?
[01:26] <bobptz> noides, I understand.  This is what I intended to do, but obviously this did not happen
[01:26] <citizensnips> Balzy_ do we have to disable fast boot as well?
[01:26] <bobptz> noides, anyway, Ubuntu is NOT on E:
[01:27] <noideas> bobptz: simply delete the partition and do not format, will give you an unpartitioned partition
[01:27] <Balzy_> citizensnips try, could be the problem
[01:27] <noideas> bobptz: simply delete the partition and do not format, will give you an unformatted partition **
[01:27] <Balzy_> citizensnips I don't have that option so I can't be sure
[01:27] <bobptz> noideas, ok
[01:28] <noideas> bobptz: one more question?
[01:28] <bobptz> ?
[01:28] <noideas> bobptz: have you tried rebuilding your grub?
[01:28] <bobptz> noideas, many times
[01:28] <bobptz> noideas also did boot-repair
[01:30] <noideas> Then I believe the easiest solution would be to re-install ubuntu with grub. I personally would not associate a drive letter with the partition (for visual representation)
[01:31] <noideas> bobptz: I have had past experiences with updating grub or the kernel and it broke the boot, but there was many distro's ago
[01:31] <bobptz> noideas, ubuntu is installed in /dev/sdb7  while GRUB says: set root='(hd1,msdos7)'  .  How can I check if the setting is correct?
[01:31] <idueppe> Did anyone manage to install ubuntu by debootstraping it with mdadm lvm and luks? I cannot find any hind why grub-install quits with "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: no such disk."
[01:32] <ikonia> idueppe: because /proc is not mounted
[01:32] <noideas> bobptz: one sec
[01:32] <ikonia> so it's not aware of the disks as your boot strapping it
[01:32] <ikonia> idueppe: also /dev may not be correctly populated
[01:33] <idueppe> I mounted /proc and /dev
[01:33] <ikonia> then it's not populated correctly
[01:33] <AcidRain2012> why does my drive with label Server2 never mount right?
[01:33] <idueppe> sorry /dev is not mount..
[01:34] <AcidRain2012> i just formatted it to ext4, but its had this issue
[01:34] <AcidRain2012> any widgets i have cannot access it
[01:34] <AcidRain2012> the other 2 drives, all widgets access them fine
[01:34] <AcidRain2012> other 3 rly
[01:34] <AcidRain2012> do i have to use fstab or what?
[01:35] <AcidRain2012> do we still even use that?
[01:35] <Bashing-om> bobptz: I have ben following somewhat, "hd1" is the second harddrive, msdos IS NOT MicroSoft Disk Operating Systm, rather the partitioning scheme that ubuntu uses, (msdos7) is th 7th partion. Now as far as I can tell there is nothing wrong with grub.
[01:36] <noideas> bobptz: by viewing /boot/grub/gurb.cfg with vi, vim, nano
[01:36] <Eromej> Hello, I (still) have a problem with my (crypt) swap partition causing an error message on boot, despite formatting it twice already following advices on askubuntu :/
[01:36] <AcidRain2012> actually my Server2 drive mounts with its uuid, or at least it attempts to mount. and i get an error: the kernel drive for this filesystem is not available.
[01:36] <AcidRain2012> then it DOES mount on /media/Server2,
[01:36] <Bashing-om> bobptz: The only problem you have now is that you are booting to a terminal login vice to the GUI ? correct ?
[01:36] <Eromej> I did all this here : http://askubuntu.com/questions/341979/what-to-do-about-the-disk-drive-for-dev-mapper-cryptswap1-is-not-ready-yet-or twice
[01:36] <citizensnips> Balzy_ Ok fastboot has now been disabled. We selected run ubuntu without installing, and now just have a black screen
[01:36] <bobptz> Bashing-om, yes ALMOST
[01:37] <bobptz> I have the feeling that I changed root to point to another drive
[01:37] <bobptz> because when I do ls from the terminal , I see different (windows) files
[01:37] <AcidRain2012>  /dev/sdd alrdy mounted or /media/Server2_ busy
[01:37] <Balzy_> citizensnips ah, nice .-.
[01:37] <aFeijo> I noticed something in my server at port 25 (smtp), it show as localhost.localdomain, and this is marked as spam by spamhous. How can I change it in my server?
[01:37] <AcidRain2012> i dont want it to mount on Server2_, which it doesnt. so why is this an issue?
[01:37] <Balzy_> citizensnips at least it's booting..
[01:38] <citizensnips> Balzy_ Have we done something wrong?
[01:38] <Balzy_> citizensnips is it a 64 bit version the one you're trying to run?
[01:38] <citizensnips> Balzy_ yes
[01:38] <Balzy_> citizensnips I think no.. does something appear before black screen?
[01:39] <citizensnips> Balzy_ we had the option to install ubuntu, or run without installing
[01:39] <AcidRain2012> An error occurred while accessing 'WDC WD10TMVV-11BG7S0', the system responded: The kernel driver for this filesystem type is not available.: Error mounting: mount: /dev/sdd already mounted or /media/Server2_ busy
[01:39] <Balzy_> citizensnips did you try to wait for 2-3 minutes? nothing appear?
[01:39] <Bashing-om> bobptz: roger, then as advised look at /boot/grub/gurb.cfg and see what is going to be parsed by the operating system, a very good way to know.
[01:39] <bobptz> Bashing-om, so if GRUB is correct, why do I go to command line?
[01:39] <idueppe> ok...sorry I'm not sure. Under the rescue system "/dev on /mnt/ubuntu/dev type none (rw,bind)" is mounted but I cannot see it after "chroot /mnt/ubuntu". Is this correct?
[01:39] <bobptz> wait, I will do it now
[01:39] <citizensnips> Balzy_ we have been waiting for ~3 minutes now
[01:40] <citizensnips> Balzy_ typically how long does it take?
[01:40] <noideas> bobptz: are you able to navigate to your ubuntu install?
[01:40] <Balzy_> citizensnips 2-3 minutes maximum, for me
[01:41] <Bashing-om> bobptz: that could be caused by many things, 1at is generally a changed in authorization to access Xserver, nect is usually a broke proprietary grahics driver. As you do boot to a terminal, the system is booting. The system as a whole must be intact.
[01:41] <Balzy_> citizensnips no errors? the screen becomes immediately black?
[01:41] <citizensnips> Balzy_ It appears that our system is stuck on a black screen
[01:41] <theGrg> Hi. Can anyone share their default /etc/sysctl.conf with me? I messed around with it without making a backup.
[01:41] <citizensnips> Balzy_ no, no error messages
[01:42] <noideas> Bashing-om: what doesn't make sense to me is why the terminal is directed to another mount point?
[01:42] <bobptz> noideas, I can find and edit the grub.cfg file, if this is what you mean
[01:42] <Balzy_> citizensnips check with the guide I linked you for partitioning and installing with win8 if there's something else to set in the bios screen
[01:42] <theGrg> I'm on Ubuntu 13.04
[01:42] <noideas> bobptz: yes, scroll down past ### Begin /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86....
[01:43] <bobptz> Bashing-om, I am sorry, have I donre something wrong?  Maybe an update gave me the wrong drivers?
[01:43] <Bashing-om> bobptz: you mean that the terminal prompt is not as ecpected ? How are you seeong a mount point in terminal ?
[01:43] <noideas> bobptz: opps i mean right before
[01:44] <Balzy_>  Turn off secure boot - check that paragraph citizensnips
[01:44] <citizensnips> Yes, secure boot was turned off
[01:45] <bobptz> noides, I am there
[01:45] <bobptz> noideas, I am there
[01:45] <Balzy_> citizensnips so I have no idea.. that's quite a strange behavior
[01:45] <noideas> bobptz: look for set root=''
[01:45] <bobptz> noideas BEFORE the ### BEgin  ?
[01:46] <noideas> bobptz: look for the first  " menuentry "
[01:46] <bobptz> noideas  yes, the first one ABOVE the ###BEGIN, set root='(hd1,msdos7)'
[01:47] <citizensnips> Balzy_ we selected the drive from the Windows Power option "Select EFI drive"
[01:47] <bobptz> it is the RECOVERY mode
[01:47] <noideas> bobptz: then it seems like it is set correctly
[01:47] <Balzy_> citizensnips all I can suggest you right now is to check with the guide if all steps and settings have been performed
[01:47] <noideas> bobptz: no that is the file used by grub to boot ubuntu
[01:48] <Balzy_> citizensnips I don't know exactly that part, I've always installed ubuntu along with win xp and 7
[01:48] <bobptz> noideas, that menuentry is the 2nd one of the grub menu and it says RECOVERY MODE
[01:49] <noideas> bobptz: the only way I can understand your terminal to point to another mounting point would have to be an internal change within ubuntu.
[01:49] <bobptz> anyway, the normal one, just above has the same value
[01:49] <hexacode> anyone know if theres such thing as an rsync stat? i need to find out if a directory is being versioned under rsync
[01:49] <citizensnips> Balzy_ so select the USB device from the BIOS rather than from the Windows boot options?
[01:49] <glitsj16> theGrg: take /usr/share/doc/procps/examples/sysctl.conf as a fresh copy to /etc/sysctl.conf and do a "sudo sysctl -p" to activate
[01:49] <noideas> bobptz: recovery mode should be visable on your grub menu
[01:49] <citizensnips> Balzy_ because we still had the same "try ubuntu without installing" and "Install Ubuntu" options normally given, I assume
[01:49] <Jordan_U> bobptz: Could you please summarize the problem you're trying to solve?
[01:49] <bobptz> noideas, I went into recovery mode and I played with the menus there, maybe I changed something there
[01:50] <Balzy_> citizensnips try but I think it's the same
[01:50] <bobptz> Jordan_U after the GRUB menu, I go into command lie
[01:50] <theGrg> Oh thanks glitsj16
[01:50] <bobptz> seems like a silly thing
[01:51] <noideas> bobptz: would you happen to know what you changed?
[01:51] <AcidRain2012> dolphin doesnt even read my drive as being mounted properly
[01:51] <AcidRain2012> it doesnt give any information on it
[01:51] <bobptz> noideas, it looked like a DOS or a BIOS screen
[01:51] <glitsj16> theGrg: no trouble, doing the sudo sysctl -p will clear out the mess ;)
[01:51] <citizensnips> Balzy_ We have followed the guide, but we are not able to boot into Ubuntu
[01:51] <bobptz> and I think it promtrd mr for the correct partition or something
[01:52] <Jordan_U> bobptz: Does "sudo service lightdm start" bring you to a normal login screen?
[01:52] <bobptz> after that , whenever I do the "ls" command, I see different (windows) directories
[01:52] <whatisthematrix> hello. i could use help figuring out how to mount my external usb blu-ray drive if someone has some ideas on how-to
[01:53] <bobptz> Jordan_U  NO, it gave me some orange text
[01:53] <bobptz> looks like shutting down
[01:53] <noideas> bobptz: Not sure what that would be. I must leave unfortunately, but my recommendation would be to freshly install ubuntu, as you did the first time or boot from a disk. Sorry I was not more help, good luck.
[01:53] <bobptz> says: checking battery state
[01:54] <Jordan_U> whatisthematrix: Are you really just trying to mount a blue ray disk or are you trying to play a blue ray movie?
[01:54] <bobptz> ok guys, you tried very much to help me
[01:54] <bobptz> I will clean install Ubuntu
[01:54] <whatisthematrix> Jordan_U: i would like to mount it so that i can use MakeMKV
[01:54] <bobptz> Goodnight
[01:55] <Bashing-om> bobptz: Unless you are out of patience, I am still here and willing to help, (re-)install is the nuclear solution !
[01:55] <Balzy_> citizensnips I really don't know then.. I'm sorry
[01:56] <Balzy_> citizensnips Try to ask later here if someone had the same problem with win 8
[01:56] <bobptz> Bashing-om, it is late.  If you have any suggestions I am here
[01:56] <Jordan_U> whatisthematrix: What if anything happens when you insert a blue ray disk?
[01:57] <whatisthematrix> Jordan_U: nothing that i can tell. the device doesn't show up with the 'lsusb' command
[01:57] <AcidRain2012> appears its not booting properly because it doesnt have a mbr
[01:58] <AcidRain2012> its the only drive on my comp that doesnt have one
[01:58] <whatisthematrix> Jordan_U: i must say, i'm not in the ubuntu desktop. i'm in xfce.
[01:58] <Bashing-om> bobptz: From your last I can gather that the prompt you are seeing is indeed a "grub" prompt, Are you booting with the 2nd hard drive as 1st boot priority ?
[01:58] <whatisthematrix> Jordan_U: but i could go into the ubuntu desktop
[01:58] <bobptz> Bashing-yes
[01:58] <bobptz> Bashing-om    yes
[01:59] <bobptz> Bashing-om, but wait,   after th GRUB menu, it takes me to UNIX command line
[01:59] <bobptz> Bashing-om  I do see the red Ubuntu 12.04 with the 4 dots splash screen
[02:00] <bobptz> Bashing-om   and then I have to login
[02:00] <citizensnips> Balzy_ no matter which option is selected on the page, the computer remains at a blank, black screen
[02:00] <bobptz> Bashing-om    and then I do ls
[02:01] <bobptz> Bashing-om and I see the following:   Desktop   downloads    jforex   pictures   templates   videos    documents    examples.desktop   music   public   Ubuntu one
[02:01] <bobptz> Bashing-om    so I think I am in the wrong drive
[02:02] <bobptz> Bashing-om   AHA!
[02:02] <bobptz> Bashing-om  I did cd / and now it did take me to the correct root directory
[02:02] <whatisthematrix> Jordan_U: perhaps my problem is that i don't have the 'discover' package installed. going to install it now
[02:02] <bobptz> now I see the linux files
[02:03] <Bashing-om> bobptz: If you are getting to a terminal TTY1, - login and password ->then you are for a fact booting ! ... There are other issues here at play !
[02:03] <bobptz> Bashing-om    yes
[02:03] <Balzy_> citizensnips try to google your problem, sorry it's really late I'm going to bed now..
[02:03] <citizensnips> Balzy_ thank you for all of your help :)
[02:04] <Balzy_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/337703/black-screen-when-selecting-try-ubuntu-13-04-on-windows-8
[02:04] <Balzy_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/162075/my-computer-boots-to-a-black-screen-what-options-do-i-have-to-fix-it
[02:04] <Balzy_> citizensnips no problem, check those links!
[02:04] <Balzy_> bye
[02:05] <bobptz> Bashing-om   any  suggestions?
[02:05] <Bashing-om> bobptz: Back to others advisement, what results from the terminal command -> sudo service lightdm start <-, let's say it is a unity problem and see.
[02:05] <bobptz> Bashing-om   I have (had) gnome classic
[02:05] <bobptz> Bashing-om   the above command forced me to shutdown
[02:06] <bobptz> Bashing-om   maybe repair Gnome?
[02:07] <whatisthematrix> Jordan_U: no change. still not listed from doing 'lsusb' command
[02:08] <VlanX> Is it the wrong place to ask for a problem with WGET?
[02:08] <Bashing-om> bobptz: make that then -> sudo service gdm start <- .. there are other causes, one should at this time take a look at the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if a graphics driver is loaded.
[02:09] <bobptz> Bashing-om    gdm: unrecognized service
[02:09] <SaberX01> VlanX, in a strict sense, yes, but it's quick and easy probably get a good answer back.
[02:10] <SaberX01> *if it's quick
[02:10] <VlanX> SaberX01: hey wow I already found it, was the -i option
[02:11] <Bashing-om> bobptz: Yuk, no more guessing, what results from terminal code: echo $DESKTOP_SESSION <- ?
[02:12] <bobptz> Bashing-om     a BLANK line
[02:13] <Bashing-om> bobptz: wow ! .. no desktop is available ??.. let me ponder on this ! .. I will be back !
[02:13] <SaberX01> lol yeah, that may be an issue :-)
[02:14] <SaberX01> Unless its a server install of course ..
[02:14] <asl35mca> hi
[02:14] <bobptz> Bashing-om   I am falling asleep.   If you find a quick fix, please email me at bobptz@gmail.com
[02:15] <bobptz> need to go
[02:15] <idueppe> I guess I ran into this grub http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=673573 bug - how can I update to a new grub version than 1.99-21ubuntu3.14?
[02:20] <SaberX01> idueppe, you could dl the .deb or enable backports something along those lines, I'm on Grub2  v2.02 SO I can't help much more than that.
[02:22] <AcidRain2012> what package name is disk utility?
[02:22] <AcidRain2012> i need to launch it from terminal
[02:22] <drdrewww> hello
[02:22] <SaberX01> AcidRain2012, Disk utility .. for like partitions and formatting, fdisk
[02:23] <drdrewww> this is not really a ubuntu thing although i am streaming off ubuntu would someone help me by opening a stream in vlc i want to test it :D
[02:23] <Bashing-om> bobptz: Let's say that you are running gnome as the DM, what results from terminal command : sudo start gdm <- , while I ponder some more. I see you are foing, I will be back in my AM ,, and will pick this back up.
[02:23] <idueppe> SaberX01, maybe I should use 13.10 instead of 12.04? Does it have a newer version of grub
[02:24] <SaberX01> idueppe, that is entirely up to you, but for me, in production, I stick with LTS. I'm on a 14.04 box right now, but it's testing only for ubuntu-qa and install testing etc etc
[02:24] <hitsujiTMO> AcidRain2012: gnome-disks i think
[02:25] <SaberX01> idueppe, But I will say, allot of folks here in IRC are pretty happy with 13.10 .. so if I were to choose a non-LTS, 13.10 would be my target.
[02:26] <idueppe> SaberX01, that the reason I choose 12.04.. but I cannot manage to install a full crypted system
[02:27] <SaberX01> idueppe, and to answer your question on which release has which Grub2, here's the list: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=grub2
[02:28] <SaberX01> idueppe, may have to ask others about encrypted system / home folders etc, as I don't use it on servers or desktop.
[02:28] <idueppe> SaberX01, thx
[02:35] <AcidRain2012> i got like... 10billion GB of music
[02:35] <AcidRain2012> :D
[02:37] <glitsj16> idueppe: there's a backported grub2 2.00 in a PPA for precise you might try before jumping to a non-LTS: https://launchpad.net/~spuzirev/+archive/grub2
[02:37] <intrader> Anyone, I am trying to install XAMPP - it's installation instructions say to o to a Linux shell and login as the system administrator root:su. The system asks me to root password, I supply my password with which I can do sudo; please, let me know what the difference between su and sudo is
[02:37] <idueppe> glitsj16, thx, i will try this one
[02:38] <bazhang> !xampp | intrader
[02:39] <bazhang> intrader, sudo gives you administrator rights, use sudo -i if you need a root shell
[02:39] <intrader> bazhang, thank you!
[02:40] <mojtaba> Hi, I have inserted a SD card in my laptop. Do you know how can mount it from terminal?
[02:40] <seventhcypher> what is the safest way to change the root user name???
[02:40] <seventhcypher> in new to linux/unix
[02:40] <seventhcypher>  *i'm
[02:41] <hitsujiTMO> seventhcypher: you don't.
[02:41] <Gerowen> Anybody know why AVIDemux crashes constantly?  If all I do is work with one video and clip sections out of it, it works fine, but as soon as I click a menu to do anything, when I close that menu and go back to the video, the whole program freezes.
[02:42] <seventhcypher> hitsujiTMO: thanks
[02:42] <hitsujiTMO> seventhcypher: do you want to change your accounts username?
[02:42] <seventhcypher> just thought I would ask
[02:42] <seventhcypher> yes
[02:43] <hitsujiTMO> seventhcypher: the safest thing to do, is create a new account anhd migrate over your data/settings before deleting your old account
[02:43] <mojtaba> Hi, I have inserted a SD card in my laptop. Do you know how can mount it from terminal?
[02:43] <seventhcypher> hitsujiTMO: ok
[02:44] <hitsujiTMO> mojtaba: sudo mkdir /mnt/sd; sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt/sd                               just replace XY with whatever refers to your sdcard
[02:45] <seventhcypher> hitsujiTMO: thanks for the help
[02:45] <AcidRain2012> mojtaba, is it not auto mounting?
[02:45] <mojtaba> hitsujiTMO: I have made the directory in the /media. but I can not mount it.
[02:45] <AcidRain2012> easiest way to do it is to run nautilus, and let it automount it once you cl ick on the drive.
[02:45] <mojtaba> I have used sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/mmcblk0p1 /media/mojtaba/SD
[02:46] <mojtaba> AcidRain2012: no
[02:46] <mojtaba> AcidRain2012: I want to use terminal
[02:46] <AcidRain2012> u dont HAVE to specify the filesystem type
[02:46] <mojtaba> AcidRain2012: it asks
[02:46] <AcidRain2012> oh... hmm.... havent delt with sd cards
[02:47] <AcidRain2012> mojtaba, now did you touch /media/mojtaba AND /media/mojtaba/SD?
[02:47] <AcidRain2012> what error do u get?
[02:47] <mojtaba> AcidRain2012: it is mount: unknown filesystem type 'crypto_LUKS'
[02:47] <hitsujiTMO> mojtaba: if its asking for a filesystem then it cant read any from the card. sounds like its corrupt or an unsupported filesystem
[02:47] <mojtaba> I have formatted the SD as encrypted ext4
[02:47] <AcidRain2012> is there anything on the drive that you want?
[02:48] <mojtaba> AcidRain2012: no
[02:48] <hitsujiTMO> mojtaba: ahhh
[02:48] <mojtaba> hitsujiTMO: do you know what is going on?
[02:48] <AcidRain2012> ya. i believe the encrypted part of it has something to do with it
[02:49] <hitsujiTMO> mojtaba: you cant mount encrypted filesystems directly: http://askubuntu.com/questions/63594/mount-encrypted-volumes-from-command-line
[02:49] <AcidRain2012> bingo ;)
[02:49] <SaberX01> Indeed :-)
[02:50] <mojtaba> hitsujiTMO: thanks
[02:50] <mojtaba> :)
[02:56] <seventhcypher> wow
[02:57] <Y2KVet> Is there a way to get the console to beep?
[02:58] <Y2KVet> from the commnd line?
[02:58] <foxx> Y2KVet: dude, you couldnt do a simple google?
[02:58] <foxx> come on man :/
[02:58] <foxx> i just googled for 'console beep ubuntu'
[02:58] <foxx> and the answer was on the first page
[02:58] <foxx> http://askubuntu.com/questions/19906/beep-in-shell-script-not-working
[02:59] <foxx> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/beep.1.html
[02:59] <ramborocks> how do i know which open gl drivers i should get
[02:59] <ramborocks> i have official nvidia but heard the open gl might be better for me
[02:59] <foxx> Y2KVet: at least TRY and find the answer yourself dude, ffs :/
[02:59] <ramborocks> im on a x64 ubuntu
[03:02] <Y2KVet> foxx: Been there, done that.  'beep' doesn't work.  That's the reason I'm here.
[03:02] <foxx> Y2KVet: define doesnt work.
[03:02] <foxx> are you doing it on a local machine? via ssh? via tty? via vmware?
[03:03] <Y2KVet> local host
[03:03] <foxx> read throug those links i sent you, see if any of those answers solve your problem first
[03:03] <Y2KVet> k
[03:05] <hitsujiTMO> Y2KVet: looks like a "non-fix bug" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/486154             the pc speaker was abused so its a good thing that its not loaded by default
[03:06] <hitsujiTMO> Y2KVet: http://askubuntu.com/questions/96511/getting-the-pc-speaker-to-beep/107618#107618 might help
[03:12] <whatisthematrix> Jordan_U: hello. i figured out why my external usb blu-ray drive wasn't showing up as a device if you're curious
[03:16] <Jordan_U> whatisthematrix: I am. What was the problem?
[03:17] <gnudo> can anyone recommend me a currently developed and user friendly application to convert a sqlite3 database to csv ?
[03:17] <notmot> Hay, I have a question about the application submission / publishing process and I was wondering if this is the correct place to ask about it.
[03:17] <AcidRain2012> omg
[03:18] <AcidRain2012>  /media/Server2/My_Documents/Music          /media/AcidShower/FTP/ftpuser/My_Documents/Music        bind  _netdev,bind         0  0
[03:18] <SaberX01> gnudo, how about a small script: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5776660/export-from-sqlite-to-csv-using-shell-script
[03:18] <AcidRain2012> this doesnt mount. i get no error with sudo mount -a
[03:18] <whatisthematrix> Jordan_U: it was that i was plugging the drive into a usb header port on the front-top part of my computer. i had to plug it into one of the usb ports on the rear of the computer, close to the motherboard
[03:19] <AcidRain2012> i think its still linking my Server2 drive to /dev/sdd instead of /dev/sdi
[03:19] <whatisthematrix> Jordan_U: i guess the ports on the top-front aren't part of and actual root hub
[03:19] <hitsujiTMO> notmot: #ubuntu-app-devel might be more appropriate
[03:19] <thom_r> what is a good alternative to cafesuite?
[03:20] <notmot> Thanks
[03:21] <hitsujiTMO> AcidRain2012: I would assume  /media/Server2/ isn't mounted fast enough
[03:21] <SaberX01> thom_r, there's loads of them it would appear: http://alternativeto.net/software/cafesuite/
[03:22] <AcidRain2012> hitsujiTMO, as u can see Server1 IS /media/Server/My_Documents/My_Videos       /media/AcidShower/FTP/ftpuser/My_Documents/Videos/      bind  _netdev,bind         0  0
[03:22] <AcidRain2012> it works.
[03:22] <hitsujiTMO> thom_r: as a person with firsthand experience with such software I can tell you that they all suck
[03:22] <SaberX01> LOL
[03:23] <AcidRain2012> hitsujiTMO, even at that. it should still mount when i do mount -a, thats after everything has been mounted
[03:23] <thom_r> my brother in-law has a computer shop and he is thinking about switching to Linux.
[03:24] <citizensnips> Hello, is anyone active?
[03:24] <SaberX01> thom_r, Good plan, get him hooked up with Canonical
[03:25] <hitsujiTMO> thom_r: we just wrote our own
[03:25] <thom_r> he needs a program so he can monitor the time used by each computer.
[03:25] <citizensnips> I've gotten my Ubuntu system to work, but the computer will not adjust its backlight. It can display video, but the backlight is not turning on
[03:26] <notmot> thanks hitsujiTMO
[03:26] <SaberX01> thom_r, time used? not sure I understand what data he's wanting to gather, you have an example?
[03:26] <notmot> it solved my problem
[03:26] <sixtustha5> part
[03:27] <hitsujiTMO> citizensnips: can you pastebin the output of ls: -l /sys/class/backlight/
[03:27] <thom_r> people come in, rent a computer for an hour, two hours, whatever. He is looking for a program to monitor the time used by each station.
[03:29] <citizensnips> hitsujiTMO I'm sorry, I dont understand, what you're asking
[03:29] <SaberX01> thom_r, that's standard sysadmin stuff, porbably outside the scope of this channel but: last, lastlog, auth.log can all provide the data.
[03:29] <hitsujiTMO> citizensnips: i presume you have a working monitor connected to the system right now?
[03:30] <citizensnips> HitsujiTMO Yes I am, over HDMI. It is currently downloading updates. I found something that I think might fix the problem
[03:30] <citizensnips> http://askubuntu.com/questions/38780/how-do-i-set-nomodeset-after-ive-already-installed-ubuntu/38782#38782
[03:30] <citizensnips> My computer is a Lenovo G700
[03:30] <hitsujiTMO> citizensnips: nomodeset is not backlight related
[03:31] <citizensnips> hitsujiTMO yeah I do not have ATI/AMD graphics, just the integrated Intel
[03:31] <hitsujiTMO> citizensnips: can you open a terminal and pastebin the output of: ls -l /sys/class/backlight/
[03:31] <Loshki> SaberX01: so where does the sysadmin stuff get discussed?
[03:32] <citizensnips> hitsujiTMO so go into the terminal and type "ls -1 /sys/class/backlight/"
[03:33] <SaberX01> Loshki, I think thee's a couple channels #ubuntu-sysadmins #systemadmins and a few others for general *Nix
[03:33] <cfhowlett> Loshki, #ubuntu-server??
[03:33] <hitsujiTMO> citizensnips: yest. then copy + paste the output to: paste.ubuntu.com    paste the link to that here
[03:33] <john_doe_jr> My external hard drive is not being detected or mounted…is there a tool that I can use to figure out something about it
[03:33] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr: usb connection?
[03:33] <john_doe_jr> yes
[03:34] <Loshki> Thanks guys!
[03:34] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr: start with lsusb and see if its there
[03:35] <hitsujiTMO> citizensnips: also i'm presuming you have tested the backlight in another operating system and its not the case that the inverter is gone?
[03:35] <citizensnips> hitsujiTMO the light has been working, just not on this
[03:36] <citizensnips> we got two lines, acpi_video0
[03:36] <citizensnips> intel_backlight
[03:36] <john_doe_jr> it just says vendor specific device
[03:37] <hitsujiTMO> citizensnips: cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[03:37] <hitsujiTMO> citizensnips: cat /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
[03:38] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr: can you pastebin the output of: lsusb -t
[03:39] <citizensnips> 28 for the acpi and 4882 for the intel_backlight
[03:39] <citizensnips> were the results hitsujiTMO
[03:40] <hitsujiTMO> citizensnips: also whats: cat /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/max_brightness
[03:40] <hitsujiTMO> citizensnips: also whats: cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/max_brightness
[03:40] <DarthEaron> where can i go to get support for touchegg?
[03:41] <citizensnips> the intel_backlight is at max
[03:41] <citizensnips> 4882
[03:42] <citizensnips> the acpi_video0 is 100 hitsujiTMO
[03:42] <hitsujiTMO> citizensnips: echo 100 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[03:42] <citizensnips> histujiTMO so type in "echo 100 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness"
[03:43] <hitsujiTMO> citizensnips: yes
[03:43] <daskalos> hello happu new uean :)
[03:43] <hitsujiTMO> whats a uean?
[03:43] <SaberX01> year maybe ? :-)
[03:44] <citizensnips> hitsujiTMO so now it says that it is at 100, but the screen has not changed
[03:45] <hitsujiTMO> citizensnips: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && xrandr | pastebinit
 I'm fine to do yourself
[03:45] <john_doe_jr> hitsujiTMO: here is the output => http://pastie.org/8586649
[03:46] <AcidRain2012> ye ye son pwnt
[03:46] <citizensnips> so type "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && xrandr | pastebinit"
[03:46] <DarthEaron> does anybody have experience with touchegg?
[03:46] <AcidRain2012> all drives work
[03:46] <AcidRain2012> :D
[03:47] <SaberX01> !details DarthEaron : maybe someone can help
[03:47] <john_doe_jr> hitsujiTMO: basically what I did was reformat the drive as exFat and how it is not being recognized on either a Mac or Windows but Windows does show that it can't install the right driver for it
[03:47] <hitsujiTMO> citizensnips: yup
[03:47] <AcidRain2012> issue was for anyone having this same problem: i had to delete the folders that i was mounting into, and recreate them. not sure why or what that has to do with anything. but when i was deleting them, i noticed they reappeared. so i cleared out fstab, restarted computer, deleted folders, recreated, returned fstab to how i had it setup, and sudo mount -a
[03:47] <AcidRain2012> worked miracles.
[03:47] <daskalos> like a good mind and wish Merry Christmas to all here as a company :)
[03:47] <SaberX01> My bad :-)
[03:47] <Bugbear76> how do i change the lightdm greeter/login?
[03:47] <SaberX01> !details } DarthEaron : maybe someone can help
[03:48] <citizensnips> hitsujiTMO I am also downloading some updates, so should I wait until all the changes have been applied?
[03:48] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr: sounds like the controller is gone
[03:48] <SaberX01> !details | DarthEaron : KB on 14.04 has issues :-)
[03:48] <john_doe_jr> hitsujiTMO: what does that mean exactly?
[03:48] <hitsujiTMO> citizensnips: yes, once they are complete please run that
[03:49] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr: whats the exact type of device? is it a usb pen drive or a hdd caddy or what?
[03:49] <SaberX01> wow, my KB mapping is all wrong for for several punctuation items .. lol
[03:52] <sisco_dream> hi all
[03:52] <SaberX01> Hello
[03:52] <sisco_dream> im really stuck and i need your help
[03:52] <cfhowlett> !details|sisco_dream,
[03:52] <hitsujiTMO> !details | sisco_dream
[03:52] <SaberX01> !details | sisco_dream
[03:53] <sisco_dream> well i made a bash script that run ffmpeg, works perfect
[03:53] <john_doe_jr> hitsujiTMO: it's a Seagate (9W6044-500) 160 GB USB 2.0 Hard Drive
[03:53] <SaberX01> your too fast hitsujiTMO :-)
[03:53] <sisco_dream> so into the bash script
[03:53] <sisco_dream> i get a variable from file text
[03:54] <sisco_dream> attach it to the end of the m3u8
[03:54] <SaberX01> sisco_dream, best help for bash is in #bash those guys are heavy weights in there.
[03:54] <sisco_dream> ok well saber
[03:54] <bazhang> sisco_dream, why not ask in ##ffmpeg
[03:54] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr: most likely its the caddy controller itself has gone. you have to take out the hdd itself to test to see if that works connecting directly or in another caddy
[03:54] <sisco_dream> its bash thats right and its ffmpeg, and im trying to call it from god script (ruby)
[03:55] <sisco_dream> ruby doesnt reconize the command that get variable from file
[03:55] <john_doe_jr> hitsujiTMO: totally confused…another caddy?
[03:55] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr: the encosure for the hdd
[03:55] <SaberX01> pass .. only thing I know about Ruby is my wife likes them and they cost allot of $$ :-)
[03:56] <whatisthematrix> SaberX01: :-)
[03:56] <hitsujiTMO> sisco_dream: sounds like you need #ruby then
[03:56] <john_doe_jr> hitsujiTMO: well, windows shows something connected when I plug in the USB it just doesn't have the drivers for it
[03:56] <DarthEaron> okay so I am trying to get touchegg to work and so far i have compiled and installed. the geustures are not being picked up by touchegg, after searching online, i tried to edit source code for unity and recompile it from this guide. http://askubuntu.com/questions/57586/how-can-i-disable-arbitrary-default-multitouch-gestures-in-unity to no anvil. im using ubuntu 12.04. cant get touchegg to recognize my touchpad gestures
[03:56] <sisco_dream> hahaha
[03:56] <sisco_dream> im even lost ruby or bash or ffmpeg lol
[03:56] <litropy__> Hello, I am following the following outdated guide: http://askubuntu.com/questions/22108/how-to-control-fan-speed
[03:56] <huttan> sisco_dream: u can exec any bash command or script u made from ruby
[03:56] <citizensnips> hitsujiTMO here is the output
[03:56] <citizensnips> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6660701/
[03:57] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr: thats because the controller is no longer sending the correct data to the pc so it has no idea how to communicate with it
[03:57] <litropy__> sudo /etc/init.d/module-init-tools restart ### is an outdated command. I tried to find the upstart job, to no avail.
[03:57] <sisco_dream> yes
[03:57] <sisco_dream> it works but
[03:57] <sisco_dream> ok can i past the code here?
[03:57] <xangua> !paste | sisco_dream
[03:57] <huttan> sisco_dream: pastebinit and ill look at it while i have morning coffee
[03:58] <sisco_dream> ok i will use pastbin
[03:58] <john_doe_jr> hitsujiTMO: so take the casing off and then do what exactly?
[03:58] <SaberX01> litropy__, sudo service module-init-tools start
[03:59] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr: shut down a desktop pc. and connect the hdd directly to the pc internally to test to see id the hdd is still alive
[03:59] <john_doe_jr> hitsujiTMO: I'm 90% sure the hard drive is still alive…it just doesn't like the format that I formatted it with
[04:00] <litropy__> SaberX01, module-init-tools: unrecognized service
[04:00] <citizensnips> hitsujiTMO any idea on a remedy?
[04:00] <litropy__> SaberX01, both lm-sensors and fancontrol packages have been installed.
[04:00] <SaberX01> litropy__, let me go dig on that on fer a minute.
[04:01] <hitsujiTMO> citizensnips: can you please try: xrandr --output LVDS1 --brightness 1
[04:01] <litropy__> SaberX01, sudo sensors-detect has been run, but I've yet to sudo pwmconfig ... if that helps.
[04:02] <sisco_dream> sorry for the delay
[04:02] <sisco_dream> here the link
[04:02] <sisco_dream> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6660725/
[04:02] <john_doe_jr> hitsujiTMO: when I enter in the mount command it shows the following: "/dev/disk1s2 on /Volumes/eSATA300"...
[04:02] <sisco_dream> i hope to fix this :(
[04:03] <sisco_dream> by the way the chat and template is beautiful here great job
[04:03] <SaberX01> litropy__, some basic info: Just for information, "modules-init-tools" was replaced by "kmod" recently in 13.10, and I am not sure if for 13.04, but kept compatibility with previous commands and you can use, if it is the case in 13.04, 'rmmod' and 'modprobe' as before. No changes to the syntaxe!
[04:03] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr: so its esata and not usb?
[04:04] <SaberX01> litropy__, that sais, the commands inside this package are lsmod, modprobe, rmmod, etc.
[04:04] <SaberX01> *said
[04:04] <john_doe_jr> hitsujiTMO: yes
[04:04] <litropy__> SaberX01, any time I have to rmmod, modprobe, etc, I get very confused.
[04:04] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr: what type of cable do you connect it to the pc with?
[04:05] <john_doe_jr> guess I'll just reformat it from the command line now
[04:05] <john_doe_jr> hitsujiTMO: it's a thick cable…I'm assuming eSATA
[04:05] <citizensnips> hitsujiTMO nothing happnened
[04:05] <SaberX01> litropy__, well .. in a nutshell, that's how you add and delete modules to the kernel for things that aren't included you your kernel build.
[04:06] <litropy__> SaberX01, it makes me feel like I might rip something crucial out and not know how to stick it back in, especially since removing one mod also seems to remove modules related to it.
[04:06] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr: hehe, so when i ask if its usb don't say yes if its not :P
[04:07] <SaberX01> litropy__, mor often than not, if you modprobe a module it either it works or it doesn't, rarely will it cause a kernel panic or anything like that.
[04:07] <john_doe_jr> hitsujiTMO: well, I've gotta know the difference first
[04:07] <SaberX01> litropy__, from what you've posted, your trying to get lm-sensors working?
[04:08] <hitsujiTMO> citizensnips: you need to try a kernel param next: i915.invert_brightness=1
[04:08] <litropy__> SaberX01, pfft ... I just read upward in my terminal. "You might want to run kmod start." I think I'm okay now.
[04:08] <SaberX01> Ok
[04:08] <litropy__> SaberX01, thx for your help
[04:09] <citizensnips> hitsujiTMO it said the command was not found
[04:12] <hitsujiTMO> !nomodeset | citizensnips have a look at this but instead of nomodeset enter i915.invert_brightness=1
[04:14] <citizensnips> hitsujiTMO i'm sorry I don't really follow. so type "!i915.invert_brightness=1"
[04:14] <citizensnips> ubottu i don't understand
[04:15] <hitsujiTMO> citizensnips: bo . read the linked page. but instead of the nomodeset param. you want to enter i915.invert_brightness=1
[04:15] <hitsujiTMO> s/bo/no
[04:15] <citizensnips> hitsujiTMO so follow the procedure to permanently set boot options?
[04:16] <hitsujiTMO> citizensnips: i would try the temp procedure first. only do the permanent if it fixes it
[04:17] <hitsujiTMO> citizensnips: "How to temporarily set kernel boot options on an installed OS" is the one you want
[04:17] <citizensnips> hitsujiTMO so get into the grub page?
[04:18] <hitsujiTMO> citizensnips: yes you need to reboot to grub
[04:19] <markbr> Hi guys, I'm upgraded (did a clean install) from my Ubuntu 12.04 to Ubuntu 13.10 and got disappointed by empathy. I cannot sort my contacts, and their avatars are huge (cant change also). I'm wondering if there is other hot IM option there for Gtalk + FB, outside Pidgin.
[04:20] <bow_vernon> hi people
[04:20] <bow_vernon> I have a question. Can I connect to a ipv6 machine using ipv4 address? I have a linux vps that only has ipv6 address. And my interfaces doesn't support ipv6 yet
[04:21] <hitsujiTMO> bow_vernon: you need an ipv6 tunnel https://www.sixxs.net/
[04:21] <cfhowlett> markbr, whole lot easier (and more sensible) to search the Software Center than IRC ...
[04:22] <markbr> cfhowlett: I know, I'm not a noob user. Is just that I'm wondering if there is a new hot IM client out there.
[04:22] <hitsujiTMO> bow_vernon: i would suggest getting a vps with a ipv4 address if you can tho.
[04:22] <SaberX01> markbr, Im pretty sure Pidgin works with Gtalk .. not sure what FB is
[04:22] <markbr> Facebook
[04:23] <markbr> I know, its just that I loved empathy because it was so integrated into ubuntu
, wew I'm still trying to find out what is a ipv6 tunnel and how to use it
[04:24] <SaberX01> markbr, still is tightly integrated .. just maybe not in ways some would like :-0
[04:24] <hitsujiTMO> bow_vernon: it like a ipv6 vpn. allow you to connect to ipv6 address ay tunneling those connections through your ipv4 isp to a point that can handle ipv6
[04:25] <bow_vernon> great
[04:25] <bow_vernon> however as far as I read here I have to install something
[04:25] <bow_vernon> ugh, I'm using linux
[04:26] <SaberX01> bow_vernon, see section 6to4 tunnels: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPv6
[04:26] <citizensnips> hitsujiTMO I missed clicking on the right option in grub and it rebooted normally, but this time the screen started working
[04:26] <citizensnips> hitsujiTMO but I am still going to go into grub
[04:27] <hitsujiTMO> bow_vernon: they support linux too.
[04:27] <bow_vernon> thx SaberX01
[04:32] <citizensnips> hitsujiTMO I am in the grub and after  the quiet splash it says $vt_handoff do I delete that and add the "i915..." or add that on after the $vt_handoff
[04:32] <hitsujiTMO> citizensnips: dont delete it. put it before it
[04:33] <hitsujiTMO> so should be ... quiet splash i915.invert_brightness=1 $vt_handoff
[04:36] <citizensnips> hitsujiTMO it seems like it has worked, the screen is working
[04:36] <hitsujiTMO> citizensnips: then try the permanent method by adding it to /etc/default/grub
[04:39] <darkblue_b> hi - i see a file with ls -la  that has a lot of question marks instead of permissions, as well one quesiton mark for owner and group.. What is that, or better, what to do about it
[04:40] <citizensnips> hitsujiTMO the $vt_handoff is not present here, should I add it or just type the i915... and save and exit?
[04:40] <hitsujiTMO> citizensnips: no just type i915.invert_brightness=1
[04:41] <bow_vernon> well I ended up installing miredo instead
[04:41] <bow_vernon> and it works! I can ping ipv6.google.com
[04:41] <citizensnips> hitsujiTMO I just have two more, quicker questions
[04:42] <hitsujiTMO> citizensnips: fire away
[04:42] <fire> hitsujiTMO: ?? :D
[04:43] <hitsujiTMO> :P
[04:43] <SaberX01> bow_vernon, Im kind of a noob with Ipv6 so .. glad you got it working.
[04:44] <bow_vernon> aaargh failed. I can't ping my machine though
[04:44] <bow_vernon> it's unreachable
[04:44] <SaberX01> Whoops
[04:44] <citizensnips> hitsujiTMO so whenever I boot, I never see the option to boot into windows instead of ubuntu, is that because I had to install ubuntu on legacy mode rather than UEFI?
[04:45] <citizensnips> so do I follow this to patch the install to run in EFI? http://askubuntu.com/questions/272728/black-screen-after-grub-cant-install-uefi
[04:45] <SaberX01> bow_vernon, which ping you using, ping or ping6 ?
[04:45] <bow_vernon> ping6 ofc
[04:46] <SaberX01> Im not sure which way it has to go, ping6 obviously fer Ipv6 host, bu from Ipv6 to Ipv4 should be just ping?
[04:46] <hitsujiTMO> citizensnips: if windows and ubuntu are installed in 2 seperate manners then yes that will cause issues. but that depends on if windows was installed as uefi or not.
[04:47] <citizensnips> the windows was pre-installed hitsujiTMO
[04:47] <hitsujiTMO> citizensnips: what version of windows?
[04:47] <citizensnips> hitsujiTMO Windows 8
[04:48] <SaberX01> bow_vernon, try ping <name or ip> -4 from the Ipv6 host
[04:48] <hitsujiTMO> citizensnips: yeah. you should install ubuntu as uefi then. most likely you just need to edit grub and add that i915.invert_brightness=1 to the grub menu in the install disk to get it working
[04:49] <citizensnips> hitsujiTMO and that will allow me to switch into windows?
[04:49] <hitsujiTMO> citizensnips: yes, or you can simply use the efi boot menu
[04:49] <citizensnips> HitsujiTMO is that on ubuntu?
[04:49] <hitsujiTMO> citizensnips: thats in your laptop itself
[04:50] <citizensnips> so I dont have to do this hitsujiTMO http://askubuntu.com/questions/272728/black-screen-after-grub-cant-install-uefi
[04:50] <citizensnips> patching the install to EFI?
[04:52] <hitsujiTMO> citizensnips: that seems like a different issue. I would not follow that as its doesn't actually give the details of what he did
[04:52] <citizensnips> hitsujiTMO what would you have me do then in order to consolidate the two installs?
[04:53] <bow_vernon> Saber, what do you mean?
[04:53] <hitsujiTMO> citizensnips: try editing grub with the i915.invert_brightness=1 when you run the installer itself.
[04:54] <citizensnips> hitsujiTMO which installer?
[04:54] <hitsujiTMO> citizensnips: the ubuntu installer
[04:55] <hitsujiTMO> bow_vernon: may I ask how you ended up with an ipv6 only vps?
[04:55] <citizensnips> hitsujiTMO is the ubuntu installer what allows me to switch between windows and ubuntu?
[04:56] <SaberX01> bow_vernon, nevermind, that bad .. to ping an ipv6  gotta use pin6 .. the ping <hostname> -4 / -6 dont work.
[04:56] <SaberX01> *ping6
[04:56] <bow_vernon> I used ping6. I could google ipv6.google.com
[04:56] <bow_vernon> but my vps can't be pinged
[04:56] <hitsujiTMO> citizensnips: it adds an entry to grub for windows if it discovers it during the install
[04:56] <bow_vernon> however, I got a secondary vps which is ipv6 compliant, and I can ping my vps from that machine
[04:57] <Bashing-om> win 3
[04:57] <citizensnips> hitsujiTMO sorry I'm getting really lost here. So I'm in ubuntu right now and I want to switch back to windows, how do I do that?
[04:57] <SaberX01> bow_vernon, so ipv6 vps to ipv6 vps works but you can't ping into either from ipv4?
[04:57] <hitsujiTMO> citizensnips: atm you'd have to boot it from the efi boot menu in your bios
[04:58] <citizensnips> hitsujiTMO does that mean that I would then have to turn legacy off and switch back to UEFI?
[04:58] <hitsujiTMO> citizensnips: yes
[04:59] <bow_vernon> I haven't tried the second machine. Because it has ipv4 and ipv6
[05:00] <SaberX01> bow_vernon, that's the goal I'd be looking for, setting up ipv4 & 6
[05:00] <SaberX01> or just ipv4  ..
[05:00] <bow_vernon> hehe but doesn't it depend on the ISP?
[05:01] <bow_vernon> aaarhg the second machine can't be ping6-ed
[05:01] <bow_vernon> pinging the ipv4 address is no problem though
[05:04] <citizensnips> hitsujiTMO so I switched to UEFI and now am on windows. How do I go back to Ubuntu and make that also UEFI?
[05:04] <SaberX01> bow_vernon, I think a call into your host is in order and have them dual-stack both your VPS machines correctly, being solly on ipv6 opens the door to a very small community at the moment.
[05:06] <bow_vernon> they said it could be problem with the ip4 sharing. my vps ip4 address is shared
[05:06] <SaberX01> bow_vernon, Google stats is saying only 2.75% of their clients (u and me the users) access them via Ipv6
[05:06] <bow_vernon> plus it's free so complain is a lil bit 'rude'
[05:07] <SaberX01> bow_vernon, indeed, to complaing about free probably not good thing to do :-)
[05:08] <bow_vernon> well then, I guess I have to feel satisfied with the cat-and-mouse approach with my free vps provider
[05:10] <allstarsnorks2> Hi guys, I am thinking of triple booting my current install of Ubuntu GNOME and Windows 8. Is it possible?
[05:12] <SaberX01> bow_vernon, however, we all may as well get onboard with Ipv6, as Ipv4 IP's are running out fast.
[05:13] <bow_vernon> but the ISP over here are so full of doubt about it
[05:13] <SaberX01> bow_vernon, some instersting stats: http://www.google.com/ipv6/statistics.html#tab=ipv6-adoption
[05:15] <saiarcot895> allstarsnorks2: I would think so. Out of curiosity, what's the third OS?
[05:15] <allstarsnorks2> Ubuntu Trusty
[05:15] <citizensnips> hitsujiTMO how do I access the ubuntu installer on ubuntu itself to allow edit access to the grub, or should I just boot into grub?
[05:16] <saiarcot895> allstarsnorks2: Given that you have enough hard drive space, you should be able to.
[05:16] <allstarsnorks2> is 10GB enough?
[05:17] <xel_> any body?i am new
[05:18] <xel_> r we ubuntuer loser?
[05:18] <JoshSyn> Hi
[05:19] <xel_> hi
[05:19] <SaberX01> allstarsnorks2, my 14.04 install used about 11.5 GB .. I've only installed a couple vry small tools after base.
[05:20] <thom_r> that's pretty fat
[05:21] <snufft> hey guys
[05:21] <thom_r> hey
[05:21] <snufft> i started downloading a website via ftp the other day (using wget + ftp to handle recursion), but it stopped at 5 levels. what command would i use to start it where it left off and to recurse infinitely?
[05:22] <thom_r> you were downloading a website?
[05:22] <allstarsnorks2> I
[05:22] <allstarsnorks2> I'm surprised Ubiquity hasn't been updated yet.
[05:22] <SaberX01> thom_r, the ISO is way over size at the moment, Im sure they will trim allot of fat of the base before release. But this is more for Ubuntu+1 than here.
[05:22] <snufft> thom_r, a client website, yes. there's not enough space on his hosting plan to tarball it, so i have to do the ftp thing :(
[05:23] <snufft> normally i'd do it via something gui, but i'm downloading it to a remote server that has ssh
[05:23] <thom_r> SaberX01: how big was the iso
[05:24] <SaberX01> thom_r, like 850M-900M something like that
[05:25] <thom_r> I wish Ubuntu could get the iso size back down to cd size.
[05:25] <SaberX01> thom_r, current daily is 895M
[05:25] <SaberX01> thom_r, they will, it's not even at A2 level yet.
[05:26] <thom_r> what is a cd size, 700mb?
[05:26] <cfhowlett> !mini|thom_r,
[05:26] <SaberX01> thom_r, yes, about that.
[05:27] <SaberX01> thom_r, I used a DVD, no problem at all.
[05:27] <thom_r> I know dvd's can be used. cd's are just cheaper
[05:27] <intrader> bazhang, on 8.04 I had XAMPP installed and liked its control console and the security precautions that it gives - none of this is by default available in what is specified in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP. I am through with the apache2 and php steps, on to mysql. I sorely miss the ease of XAMPP install
[05:28] <SaberX01> thom_r, 1GB USB key works too :-)
[05:29] <thom_r> SaberX01: I have like 9 or 10 usb's
[05:29] <SaberX01> and they are reusable .. so that gotta be the cheapest route :-)
[05:29] <thom_r> well I mean for giving people a copy of Ubuntu
[05:30] <cfhowlett> thom_r, CD is a dying media platform.  New Macs lack a CD drive.  things change
[05:31] <SaberX01> They want you to buy it as an option, that's why  .. they all about the mighty $$
[05:33] <SaberX01> When CD's cam out, they said FDD was dead too, but system still ship with FDD's installed :-)
[05:34] <SaberX01> Dont think the CD/DVD arena gonna be dead any time soon, though it may have competition from digital-chip media.
[05:36] <thom_r> it's just much easier for me to give someone a copy of a Linux OS on a cd/dvd than it is to give them a usb
[05:37] <SaberX01> thom_r, I used, back in my Global Service Days, the little mini-CD's for that, fits in a  shirt pocket.
[05:37] <cfhowlett> thom_r, xubuntu and lubuntu will fit on a CD
[05:37] <SaberX01> Ubuntu fits on CD too, just not Ubuntu+1 at the moment, but it will at release time.
[05:39] <SaberX01> This is all a conversion for OT otrUB+1, but, from cdimage site: Warning: This image is oversized (which is a bug) and will not fit onto a standard 703MiB CD. However, you may still test it using a DVD, a USB drive, or a virtual machine.
[05:39] <SaberX01> They will fix it.
[05:42] <uBUXUBu> does anyone know if ubuntu plays well alond side of w8 in dual boot?
[05:42] <uBUXUBu> along*
[05:42] <intrader> bazhang, the script says 'Use any method to install to mysql'; but it does not specify how!
[05:43] <techinstein> uBUXUBu,  yes 13.10 does and older not alpha
[05:43] <techinstein> uBUXUBu,  any ubuntu based distro does on 13.10
[05:43] <SaberX01> uBUXUBu, Im on an "along-side" install right now, plays very well.
[05:44] <thom_r> SaberX01: Does 14.04 have the Amazon web app, and all the online search results in the dash?
[05:46] <SaberX01> thom_r, yes it's still there.
[05:46] <thom_r> crap
[05:46] <thom_r> I know I can turn it off, it's just annoying
[05:47] <cfhowlett> thom_r, first world problem  ... :)
[05:47] <thom_r> true
[05:48] <SaberX01> It's easy to get rid of if one doesn't like it.
[05:48] <SaberX01> A simple: sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping   .. job done.
[05:49] <thom_r> see I had heard that would remove a lot of the unity interface
[05:49] <cfhowlett> thom_r, or you could use the alternate desktop environments and bypass unit altogether ...
[05:50] <thom_r> cfhowlett: I like Unity, just not the integrated search results
[05:50] <SaberX01> There's a few others too, photo, file .. etc .. dpkg -l | grep lens  to see what you ahve or want to be rid of.
[05:50] <cfhowlett> thom_r, fair enough --- as pointed out above, amazon lens is quite easy to disable
[05:52] <SaberX01> I didn't like Dash at first, but the more I use, the more I'm warming up to it, especially the Hot-Keys.
[05:53] <unstable> Is pydance gone from 13.10? Is there any alternative DDR software to use with a DDR pad?
[05:53] <kostkon> !find pydance
[05:54] <kostkon> !info pydance
[05:54] <hitsujiTMO> biggest annoyance for most is the hud. its takes focus off the app and onto dash and therefore breaks a lot of keyboard shortcuts on terminal apps
[05:54] <SaberX01> unstable, looks like it stopped at 10.04
[05:54] <thom_r> I just ran sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping and it didn't remove anything. Amazon is still there
[05:54] <unstable> SaberX01: :(
[05:54] <SaberX01> It should have.
[05:54] <thom_r> didn't
[05:55] <kostkon> thom_r, logout and log back in
[05:55] <hitsujiTMO> unity-lens-shopping existed in 13.04 not 13.10
[05:55] <unstable> I'll compile from source.
[05:55] <thom_r> ah, I'm on 13.10
[05:55] <kostkon> !info unity-lens-shopping saucy
[05:55] <hitsujiTMO> for 13.10 just disable the shopping lens in dash itself
[05:56] <thom_r> I already did that, I just want to get rid of it
[05:56] <kostkon> hitsujiTMO, scope
[05:56] <hitsujiTMO> kostkon is that not used for all the lens tho? not just the shopping ones?
[05:57] <intrader> bazhang, oh well google it: `sudo apt-get install mysql-server`
[05:57] <SaberX01> thom_r, Info: http://askubuntu.com/questions/192269/how-can-i-remove-amazon-search-results-from-the-dash-or-disable-the-feature
[05:57] <kostkon> hitsujiTMO, a lens can have many scopes not the opposite
[05:58] <intrader> bazhang, and more `how to install libapache2-mod-auth-mysql` no idea
[05:58] <hitsujiTMO> kostkon: ahh my bad
[05:58] <thom_r> I'm hungry, I'm going to eat, be back later
[05:59] <cvtsx> thom what are you eating?
[06:00] <hazz> HI there i'm trying to install linux-kernel-devel, but i' encountering this error:E: Unable to locate package linux-kernel-devel
[06:00] <thom_r> pizza from a local place
[06:01] <SaberX01> hazz, you wanting the headers, is that what your after?
[06:01] <hitsujiTMO> hazz: what exactly are you trying to install?
[06:01] <hazz> I'm trying to install drivers for TBS satellite
[06:01] <hazz> already installed the headers
[06:01] <hitsujiTMO> hazz: install build-essential then
[06:02] <SaberX01> then: udo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:02] <SaberX01> *sudo
[06:02] <hazz> already done sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:02] <SaberX01> hazz, sri my bad missed that you install headers already.
[06:03] <guest078514> Hi brothers, I am ported from Windows to Ubuntu due to a big reason (I love Ubuntu). I am a web developer, i was using Aptana Studio and Navicat (for remote mysql browser).. I am facing problem to use it in Ubuntu 13.10. Any alternative or solutions please?
[06:04] <hitsujiTMO> guest078514: best alternative is sublime text + mysql command line +/ phpmyadmin
[06:04] <hazz> build-essential is already the newest version
[06:04] <hitsujiTMO> hazz: then follow the readme to compile the module
[06:05] <SaberX01> you may also need linux-source too
[06:05] <hitsujiTMO> SaberX01: why?
[06:05] <hazz> but what about the unable to locate the package kernel devel
[06:06] <hitsujiTMO> hazz: because there's no such package
[06:06] <SaberX01> To compile the lernel, you need the source
[06:06] <SaberX01> *kernel
[06:06] <hitsujiTMO> SaberX01: hes not comiling a kernle. hes compiling a module :P
[06:06] <hazz> ok i see i give a try
[06:08] <SaberX01> The error he's getting is is becasue it's looking for the kernel-source files <linux-kernel-devel> not module / header files
[06:08] <intrader> bazhang, and more `how to install libapache2-mod-auth-mysql` no idea - same with phpadmin, following http://askubuntu.com/questions/359362/how-to-correctly-install-apache2-php5-mysql-and-phpmyadmin results in errors and no working phpadmin
[06:09] <intrader> bazhang, in old 8.04 I used XAMPP to do this as a one-click-install!
[06:10] <SaberX01> intrader, lots of ways to skin that cat. Have a read through this: http://www.webrichsoftware.com/?p=16
[06:10] <intrader> bazhang, things have reressed considerably - I don't know what I am doing
[06:11] <intrader> SaberX01,  things have reressed considerably - I will read
[06:11] <SaberX01> Good Plan.
[06:11] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: you have looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP right?
[06:12] <SaberX01> intrader, and just for into, the easisy way to install the Lamp server: sudo tasksel  .. then select LAMP .. phpmyadmin is then normal sudo apt-get install.
[06:14] <roninn> where in kernel.org are actually the downloads
[06:15] <intrader> SaberX01, I have done https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#For_more_information and when I got to the line that that says to use any method to install mysql-server libapache2-mod-auth-mysql php5-mysql, troubles! Your new prescription requires me to back out of all this? How?
[06:15] <SaberX01> roninn, you have the site correct, latest stable kernel listed in tha tbig Yellow Button
[06:16] <hazz> SaberX01, how can installed the kernel source?
[06:17] <SaberX01> hazz, sudo apt-get install linux-source .. but I'd have a serious look at why your needed to do a custom compile, that's not as easy as it looks.
[06:17] <SaberX01> intrader, what version of ubuntu are you on ?
[06:18] <hazz> SaberX01, thanks
[06:18] <intrader> SaberX01, 12.04 - and I am here because of problems with 13.04
[06:19] <hazz> linux-source is already the newest version.
[06:19] <intrader> SaberX01, I realize that 12.04 already installs mysql, but what about the mod?
[06:19] <SaberX01> hazz, then Im at a loss as to why your getting that error, what How-Too are you following?
[06:21] <SaberX01> intrader, do you ahve a working http server now, after installing LAMP ?
[06:21] <gerald> hi all
[06:21] <intrader> SaberX01, yes, and php is up and running
[06:22] <SaberX01> intrader, then: sudo  libapache2-mod-auth-mysql  .. but you need to reconfigure apach2 to use it.
[06:23] <intrader> SaberX01, how to reconfigure apache2?
[06:24] <intrader> SaberX01, is that not sudo apt-get liba...
[06:24] <SaberX01> intrader, See Section called Apache2 Modules: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/httpd.html see
[06:25] <intrader> SaberX01, oh how I long for 8.04 and XAMPP one-click
[06:25] <SaberX01> I have no idea bout XAMPP  .. and I've not been on 8.04 for years.
[06:27] <intrader> SaberX01, I don't want to return to 8.04, progress... but the new XAMPP has trouble with chromium and firefox executing as root or with root permissions - and they should complain
[06:27] <SaberX01> intrader, Im sorry but I can't help with XAMPP
[06:28] <intrader> SaberX01, no worry, I just want simplicity and not this lampp instructions in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#For_more_information
[06:29] <SaberX01> intrader, If you want XAMPP, I suggest you contact those that author the application./
[06:29] <roninn> shouldn't the new stable be something like 3.8
[06:30] <snufft> does wget -m override existing files?
[06:30] <SaberX01> roninn, new stable what Kernel ?
[06:30] <intrader> SaberX01 as I said I don't want XAMPP but I want the lampp stack installed properly
[06:31] <SaberX01> intrader, I told you how to do that, tasksel, select LAMP .. then add you mod_auth module and configure it per the server guide, but you dont want to do that, so it's up to you.
[06:31] <guest078514> hitsujiTMO: thanks a lot brother..
[06:32] <intrader> SaberX01: I am frustrated as hell, stuck at the 'Use any method to install: mysql-server libapache2-mod-auth-mysql php5-mysql that this inane instructions in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#For_more_information
[06:33] <hiteshtr> i updated my ubuntu from 13.04 to 13.10 now my apache never start automatically on boot and also when i make new folder in /var/www/ my apache show me message of access denied when i try to access that folder from localhost
[06:35] <jve> Try this vpn server http://tiked.net/bb256
[06:36] <hazz> Do not know what to do next!
[06:36] <intrader> SaberX01: I am going to your http://www.webrichsoftware.com/?p=16 and continuing with phpmyadmin installation
[06:37] <SaberX01> intrader, Im sorry your frustrated, nobody said server administration is easy.To install and configure you mod_auth package is 5 steps, clearly outlined in the Apach2 Modules section, it doesn't get  much easier than that.
[06:38] <hazz> done what it says
[06:38] <hazz> optional in case packages aren't already installed) install prerequisite packages using Ubuntu package manager:
[06:38] <hazz> apt-get update
[06:38] <hazz> apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[06:38] <hazz> apt-get install linux-kernel-devel
[06:38] <FloodBot1> hazz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:39] <hazz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6661164/
[06:39] <intrader> SaberX01: except that During the installation, you will be first prompted to select a web server for automatic configuration. I am putting this step in caps as most people goof it up (and later have problems with accessing phpmyadim via Apache" does not happen - no errors just missing
[06:43] <SaberX01> hazz, you are putting sudo in front of the install commands yes?
[06:43] <hiteshtr>  i updated my ubuntu from 13.04 to 13.10 now my apache never start automatically on boot and also when i make new folder in /var/www/ my apache show me message of access denied when i try to access that folder from localhost
[06:44] <hiteshtr> can any one help me to remove this problem
[06:45] <hazz> SaberX01, sure man
[06:46] <SaberX01> hiteshtr, just so other can see, what error do you get when you try to start Apach2 manually?
[06:46] <SaberX01> hazz, an you installed build-essential as well?
[06:46] <linuxusert> the disk of the install has started to work like doing a defrag or checkdisk and not stops until i restart the system
 is that normal?
[06:47] <hazz> a dist-upgrade does it has got any sense?
[06:47] <linuxusert> inside the desktop session!
[06:47] <hazz> yes also that
[06:47] <linuxusert> and this already happen to me on two different computer
[06:47] <linuxusert> s
[06:48] <SaberX01> hazz, and refresh our memory here, what is the current error your getting now?
[06:49] <hazz> E: Unable to locate package linux-kernel-devel-3.11.0-14-generic
[06:49] <SaberX01> hazz, and what command are you using when you get that error?
[06:50] <hazz> sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-devel-$(uname -r)
[06:50] <SaberX01> hazz, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-3.11.0-14-generic
[06:50] <hiteshtr> SaberX01: when i do not use sudo following error comes * The apache2 configtest failed.
[06:50] <hiteshtr> Output of config test was:
[06:50] <hiteshtr> mkdir: cannot create directory '/var/run/apache2': Permission denied
[06:50] <hiteshtr> chown: changing ownership of '/var/lock/apache2.F2eF4BdO8a': Operation not permitted
[06:51] <hitsujiTMO> hazz: linux-kernel-devel does not exist. can you link the article that's telling you to install that package?
[06:52] <hazz> linux-headers-3.11.0-14-generic is already the newest version.
[06:54] <thom_r> SaberX01: What kernel does 14.04 use
[06:54] <hazz> SaberX01, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6661215/
[06:54] <SaberX01> thom_r, 3.12
[06:54] <thom_r> thanks
[06:55] <hitsujiTMO> hazz: how old is this hardware? its been a while since a package linux-kernel-devel has existed in ubuntu
[06:55] <hazz> 2011
[06:56] <hitsujiTMO> hazz: linux-kernel-devel is pre 10.04
[06:57] <SaberX01> That looks to be an old How-To
[06:58] <hazz> so do you have any idea how can i compile that
[06:58] <hitsujiTMO> hazz: what is the exact card you are trying to compile the module for?
[06:58] <allstarsnorks2> Er guys, I am currently installing Ubuntu and I'm not connected to the net. Ubuntu doesn't ask me whether I want to connect to a network.
[06:59] <hitsujiTMO> allstarsnorks2: its optional. you can connect in top right corner if you wish
[06:59] <hiteshtr> SaberX01: did you saw the error i wrote
[06:59] <allstarsnorks2> But I am using a Broadcom WiFi card and it doesn't connect
[07:00] <hazz> tbs6925
[07:00] <hitsujiTMO> hiteshtr: did you update your apache configs to be compatable with 2.4?
[07:01] <SaberX01> hiteshtr, yes, I saw it, but not sure what's happening .. what command are you running when you get the error?
[07:01] <allstarsnorks2> Why does Ubuntu not have support for Broadcom cards?
[07:03] <hitsujiTMO> allstarsnorks2: it does. they're just a pain in the ass to get working
[07:03] <thom_r> allstarsnorks2 What version do you have?
[07:03] <thom_r> what version of Ubuntu that is
[07:03] <hitsujiTMO> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BroadcomSTA(Wireless)
[07:03] <SaberX01> hazz, Im not finding allot of new material for that card / install how-too .. still looking.
[07:05] <intrader> SaberX01: something amiss with `mysql -u root` reports back that 'ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)' So, how do I set the password for mysql root?
[07:07] <hazz> SaberX01, thanks very much about your help indeed
[07:07] <SaberX01> intrader, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset
[07:08] <SaberX01> hazz, sri mae, that one's got me stupped for sure.
[07:08] <SaberX01> *stumped
[07:09] <SaberX01> hazz, all the stuff I was finding, refered to 2.6 kernels, nothing I found was even in the last year or so even.
[07:09] <hiteshtr> hitsujiTMO: no i did't but i tried to uninstall apache completely and then again installed it nut still same problem
[07:09] <hitsujiTMO> hazz: looks like the company in question do not keep their documentation uptodate. You may want to consider contacting them for a more uptodate instruction set
[07:10] <amireldor> I installed the nautilus emblems extension. I can set new emblems but can't remove any!
[07:10] <amireldor> Did anybody encounter this?
[07:10] <SaberX01> hiteshtr, how did you do the removal of apache2?
[07:10] <hitsujiTMO> hiteshtr: 13.04 had apache 2.2   13.10 has apache 2.4           theres a number of fundamental changes to configurations that need to be addressed for any vhosts you've defined
[07:11] <hiteshtr> SaberX01: sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2
[07:12] <hiteshtr> hitsujiTMO: should i remove apache by using complete removal of synaptic and reinstall it ?
[07:12] <hazz> hitsujiTMO, just wrote to the forum let's see thanks for the helps
[07:12] <intrader> SaberX01: thanks I will follow
[07:13] <hitsujiTMO> hiteshtr: no. have you defined any virtual hosts in /etc/apache2/sites-available ?
[07:13] <hiteshtr> hitsujiTMO: yes
[07:14] <SaberX01> hiteshtr, apach2 is a meta file, I would follow the remove with: sudo apt-get autoremove  .. then .. sudo apt-get remove apache2*  and try the reinstallation.
[07:14] <amireldor> (...hmm just needed to refresh the view)
[07:14] <hitsujiTMO> hiteshtr: have a look at http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/upgrading.html for changes you may need to maker to the configs
[07:15] <hitsujiTMO> make*
[07:15] <SaberX01> Seems like there's config files, or somethign not getting removed, but the permission issue is odd.
[07:16] <hiteshtr> hitsujiTMO, SaberX01, thanx i try ur suggestions than if problem persist i will revert back on IRC :)
[07:16] <SaberX01> We'll be here .. hopefully you get it resolved.
[07:20] <intrader> SaberX01: first two steps seem to be obsolete
[07:23] <intrader> SaberX01: going for the purge method in same article
[07:24] <SaberX01> intrader, maybe your better off with the solution at the bottom of the article.
[07:26] <SaberX01> hitsujiTMO, wehre can I read about the apache 2.2 & 2.4 deltas ?
[07:27] <hitsujiTMO> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/upgrading.html is the basic reource
[07:27] <SaberX01> Ok thanks
[07:27] <hell_> hello ubuntu user, i'm fresh installing ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS on my lenovo x60s
[07:28] <hitsujiTMO> theres also changes to the api which means that some mods that have not updated are missing from 13.10 such as libapache2_mod_auth_mysql
[07:28] <cfhowlett> hell_, no you're not as there IS no 12.04.5 ...
[07:29] <cfhowlett> details matter
[07:29] <hell_> 12.04.3 LTS sorry typo heheh
[07:29] <cfhowlett> hell_, :)  so what's the issue?
[07:30] <hell_> no, i've a questions about sharing connection with TL-WN321G how to configure as a hotspot? because i don't see any ssid on my android
[07:31] <SaberX01> hitsujiTMO, I saw a several posts about 13.10 and mod_auth missing  .. but the other fella here was on 12.04 .. so he should  be ok on that one.
[07:32] <intrader> SaberX01: sorry obsolete, making a mess I think! Help
[07:33] <SaberX01> intrader, what do you mean obsolete?
[07:34] <HUANGCH> how to install ubuntu in UEFI?
[07:34] <intrader> SaberX01: the commands suggested to change password does not work - requires to install mysqladmin, then if I use the password command change again, it does not have the table row needed
[07:34] <hitsujiTMO> !uefi | HUANGCH
[07:36] <intrader> SaberX01: here is the output of the first command:http://pastebin.com/ThieMxCG
[07:40] <SaberX01> intrader, the output tell you what to do: sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean  t.. then reinstall mysql
[07:41] <intrader> SaberX01: repeating
[07:41] <SaberX01> intrader, you may also have to: sudo deluser mysql ; sudo rm -rf /var/lib/mysql  to finsh the cleanup before reinstalling.
[07:43] <SaberX01> intrader, and I would highly recommend using tasksel: sudo tasksel  .. then select mysql server, it will ask for your PW (twice) ..
[07:45] <intrader> SaberX01: it did that also, but I get this where it is now hanging "131229 23:42:31 [Warning] Using unique option prefix key_buffer instead of key_buffer_size is deprecated and will be removed in a future release. Please use the full name instead."while setting up sql server
[07:48] <SaberX01> intrader, sudo apt-get install mysql-server --fix-missing --fix-broken
[07:50] <SaberX01> intrader, I gotta say, I've never seen a Ubuntu Lamp server install with this many issues. Somthign is clearly not right on this system, what that is, I've not idea.
[07:50] <intrader> SaberX01: It went past the seeming hang, with a message that it could not set the root password, and continued to starting the server.
[07:50] <SaberX01> *no idea
[07:51] <SaberX01> intrader, sis you set the PW during the tasksel install ?
[07:51] <SaberX01> did
[07:53] <intrader> SaberX01: precisely I went through the purge, then the install - this gave me the option to supply the password . I have not done the mysqladmin step
[07:54] <SaberX01> intrader, forget about phpmyadmin for the time being, until you MySQL up and running, that's of no value. pastebin the output of:  ps aux | grep mys
[07:56] <grahamsavage> hey
[07:56] <grahamsavage> if i stick another graphics card in, is there any reason i can't get 4 monitors working?
[07:57] <intrader> SaberX01: http://pastebin.com/5EZey8yd
[07:58] <SaberX01> intrader, it's running try to connect: sudo mysql -u root -p   .. it will ask you for the PW
[07:59] <SaberX01> why it's skipping grant and networking I dont know though
[08:01] <intrader> SaberX01: sorry:ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[08:02] <intrader> SaberX01: is this process mucking around with my password?
[08:03] <SaberX01> intrader, By pawwsord you mean you user PW ?
[08:03] <intrader> SaberX01: well the command is being issued with sudo do it asks for PW
[08:04] <SaberX01> intrader, this is all mysql, not you system level PW
[08:04] <intrader> SaberX01: hunch, I will give it the root password of mysql...
[08:06] <SaberX01> intrader, Yes, if you gave it a PW, during mysql install, that is what you should be using to connect to the mysql server.
[08:06] <intrader> SaberX01: YES, logged in as root to mysql
[08:07] <SaberX01> Ok, you can quit out of mysql
[08:07] <SaberX01> intrader, now you should be able to install phpmyadming and connect using root + your mysql PW
[08:07] <SaberX01> *phpmyadmin
[08:08] <intrader> SaberX01: I am out from what point do I install phpmyadmin?
[08:08] <SaberX01> intrader, Additionally, you may also need to reinstall the mod_auth module if you removed it earlier.
[08:09] <SaberX01> intrader, just do: sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[08:09] <SaberX01> intrader, The ins a Browser, point to your server: http://localhost/phpmyadmin
[08:11] <SaberX01> That is of course, if the server is on the machine your working on, if not use the IP address / FQDN
[08:14] <intrader> SaberX01: I am at the point where the cursor is on the Please choose the web server ... and cursor is on line for apache; but I don't know how to choose - type what?
[08:15] <intrader> SaberX01: Terrible interface from the 60s
[08:16] <SaberX01> intrader, yes, select apache, that's the server unless you installed Nginx or something else.
[08:16] <intrader> SaberX01: I don't know how to select - it merely puts the cursor on the line but I can type anything
[08:16] <SaberX01> intrader, are you in tasksel ?
[08:17] <intrader> SaberX01: similar 60s interface, but this is Configuring phpmyadmin
[08:18] <intrader> SaberX01: I can't type annything but a tab, and I can back tab back
[08:19] <intrader> SaberX01: what do you think if I simple accept the first selection and tab to the Ok
[08:20] <SaberX01> intrader, use the arrow keys to move to apache, space bar to select and tab to OK.
[08:20] <SaberX01> then enter
[08:20] <intrader> SaberX01: got it with the space bar!
[08:21] <intrader> SaberX01: done, will try http://localhost/phpmyadmin
[08:22] <intrader> SaberX01: sorry, unable to connect
[08:24] <SaberX01> intrader, is apache running?
[08:24] <intrader> SaberX01: apache not available. something killed it
[08:25] <SaberX01> intrader, sudo service apache2 start
[08:25] <intrader> SaberX01: not long ago it was responding
[08:26] <SaberX01> intrader, if you get an error about FQDN dont worry about that
[08:27] <intrader> SaberX01: phpmyadmin running
[08:28] <SaberX01> intrader, now, do a reboot of the box and check that you can get back to phpmyadmin
[08:30]  * SaberX01 has a headache !!
[08:31] <intrader> SaberX01: put wait, 'cannot login to MySQL server' - are we back to square - no sql password?
[08:36] <intrader> SaberX01, no phpmyadmin found . D...
[08:37] <intrader> SaberX01, while booting I got some kind of a broken pipe message
[08:37] <SaberX01> intrader, need to check if apache2 is running: sudo service apache2 status
[08:38] <intrader> SaberX01, my mmistake, must start in browser
[08:40] <intrader> SaberX01, 'root' as username and mysql password as I recorded it does not login
[08:41] <SaberX01> intrader, is it the same PW you used to log in directly to MySQL?
[08:42] <intrader> SaberX01, yes same password
[08:43] <SaberX01> intrader, well need to check that MySQL is running first, ps aux | grep mysql
[08:44] <SaberX01> or sudo service mysql status
[08:44] <alket> is it possible to add a command whenever i click a file ? I want to add a param at a program
[08:46] <intrader> SaberX01, seems to be
[08:46] <mbroeker> alket, search and copy the desktop file of your application to your Desktop and edit the file
[08:46] <alket> mbroeker, i want to make zip files open with file-roller -h
[08:47] <intrader> SaberX01, running
[08:48] <SaberX01> intrader, try logging into mysql like we did earlier in the terminal mydql -u root -p  and see if you can get in there.
[08:50] <intrader> SaberX01, running
[08:51] <SaberX01> intrader, ok, in the terminal, lets try to add a new root PW:  mysqladmin -u root password NEWPASSWORD  <--  Edit NEWPASSWD to whatever you want.
[08:51] <intrader> SaberX01, and phpMyAdmin is running!
[08:52] <SaberX01> Before or after the PW change ?
[08:53] <intrader> SaberX01, before, just the mysql -u root -p
[08:54] <SaberX01> intrader, Ok, so apache2 is ok, phpmyadmin is rendering, and you can log into mysql from the terminal, just not phpmyadmin yes?
[08:56] <mbroeker> alket, file-roller uses gconf and i don't know whether this behaviour can be toggled or not
[08:58] <intrader> SaberX01, I am in phpMyadmin - so far so good but don't understand how to 'test' create a table
[08:59] <polk> is it possible to upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 alpha directly?
[08:59] <thom_r> polk, sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:59] <thom_r> 14.04 has not been released yet though
[09:00] <SaberX01> intrader, Ok, that's where I end the help, I dont use phpMyAdmin, so got your Apach2 Running, and your in phpMyAdin ... job done fer me :-)
[09:01] <polk> thom_r, that just update pkgs to latest ver of sausy repo.
[09:01] <thom_r> Upgrade, not update
[09:02] <ObrienDave> thom_r, upgrade will NOT do the distro
[09:02] <thom_r> well I stand corrected
[09:02] <SaberX01> intrader, Here's tutorial, but there's allot of them, just Google phpMyAdmin tutorials, and lots come up: http://www.reg.ca/faq/PhpMyAdminTutorial.html
[09:03] <polk> I know that, but should not first repos point to 14.04 release first?
[09:03] <intrader> SaberX01, you bet, thanks for the help. What remains is how to secure it. Thanks a bunch
[09:04] <polk> its dist-upgrade for updating between releases
[09:04] <SaberX01> intrader, same thing, google securing phpMyAdmin, saw lots of tutorials there too.
[09:04] <SaberX01> thom_r, polk base info: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/installing-upgrading.html
[09:05] <thom_r> saberX01 I just saw that
[09:05] <SaberX01> It's for servers, but does the same for DE also.
[09:05] <thom_r> I knew it was upgrade something or other
[09:06] <polk> saberx01 thanks, that worked
[09:10] <SaberX01> polk, I have a side-bye-side install, I keep the latest LTS as one, and test the next dev-release on the other, I rarely do upgrades for production, only for ubuntu-qa testing.
[09:10] <hitsujiTMO> !dist-upgrade | polk
[09:10] <cristian_c> Hi
[09:11] <cristian_c> I've purchased a serial to usb adapter
[09:11] <cristian_c> I've tried it with a serial mouse, for example
[09:11] <cristian_c> I've tried the mdetect command and the terminal has returned intellimouse
[09:11] <cristian_c> then, I've set intellimouse protocol with the inputattach command
[09:12] <cristian_c> I've found a new input device in xinput list but I don't know how to enable it
[09:12] <cristian_c> I've noticed a strange thing, also: if I disconnect the mouse, I see the new device in xinput list yet :O
[09:12] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[09:12] <cristian_c> :)
[09:12] <SaberX01> :-) buy a USB mouse :-)
[09:13] <cristian_c> SaberX01, I've already got an usb mouse
[09:13] <cristian_c> SaberX01, any ideas?
[09:14] <thom_r> are you trying to plug a usb mouse via connector into a serial plug?
[09:14] <SaberX01> Plug it into a USB port? seriously though, not not really, I've never had good luck with serial to USB.
[09:14] <cristian_c> thom_r, I've connected the serial mouse to a serial->usb adapter
[09:15] <thom_r> why not plug it into a serial mouse port?
[09:15] <hitsujiTMO> serial to usb should be straight forward. the thing is tho, serial mouses are 20 years old. xorg may not even be tested against them any more
[09:15] <cristian_c> SaberX01, It's a try, I can use the adapter to try also other serial devices
[09:15] <cristian_c> not only mice
[09:16] <cristian_c> thom_r, I can try, but what have I to do after this?
[09:16] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, ok, I saw also the ubuntu wiki page about this
[09:17] <cristian_c> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[09:17] <cristian_c> hiteshtr, but it's not easy because I'm not very expert with serial matter
[09:18] <hitsujiTMO> serial should be a problem. its a quite literal straight forward protocol
[09:18] <hitsujiTMO> shouldn't
[09:18] <SaberX01> cristian_c, when you say serial, you taling about the 9pin serial port or the little PS2 round ports?
[09:19] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: can you pastebin your xorg.conf
[09:19] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, the strange thing is that the devices is added in xinput list
[09:19] <cristian_c> I can paste the line
[09:19] <Apathic> What's the best desktop environment for use on a VPS? The VPS has 2Gb of ram and 35gb of space.
[09:19] <cristian_c> SaberX01, 9-pin
[09:19] <Rory> !best | Apathic IMO lxde
[09:19] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: there should be more than one line :P pastebin the full xorg.conf on paste.ubuntu,com
[09:20] <hitsujiTMO> rory, Apathic for this one i'd certainly go with "none"
[09:20] <SaberX01> cristian_c, wow, yeah, the 9pin mice not been around for a very long time.
[09:20] <Rory> Apathic: It depends what you want to use it for; why do you feel you need a desktop environment?
[09:21] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, ok, but I don't have got an xorg.conf, it doesn't exist in /etc/X11 :(
[09:21] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, ok, but with 'paste the line' I refer to the 'xinput list' output :)
[09:22] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: ahh i see
[09:22] <Apathic> For file editing and other functions... and for the GUI experience...
[09:22] <SaberX01> Apathic, is a local VPS or over the net VPS?
[09:22] <llutz> Apathic: a. there are cli-editors, b: strange gui experience via vnc/rdp/x-forward whatever you'll have
[09:23] <Apathic> SaberX01: over the net.
[09:23] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, yes, long time ago xorg.conf was a default
[09:23] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: ok. can you pastebin the output of: inputattach --help
[09:23] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, ok
[09:23] <cristian_c> !paste
[09:24] <Rory> Apathic: Something as lightweight as possible. lxde, openbox etc
[09:24] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: sorry wrong command
[09:24] <SaberX01> Apathic, there's several options, non-of-which will give you local performance .. rdp, vnx, but for most work on a remote machine, terminal via SSH is the best route.
[09:24] <SaberX01> *vnc
[09:24] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: sudo cat /dev/ttyS0
[09:25] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, ok, I connect the adapter and the mouse too
[09:25] <cristian_c> but I think /dev/ttyUSB0 is the right device
[09:25] <cristian_c> :)
[09:25] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: well cat that then :P
[09:26] <cristian_c> ok
[09:26] <SaberX01> Apathic, as for DE's well like was already said, LXDE, Xfce, Mate  things along those lines.
[09:26] <Apathic> Alright, thanks.
[09:26] <cristian_c> I tried but I remember that it returned something similar to 'busy resource'
[09:27] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: not "Input/output error" ?
[09:27] <cristian_c> connected :)
[09:27] <cristian_c> I try
[09:28] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: how many buttons are on the mouse?
[09:28] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, the output is suspended
[09:28] <cristian_c> :O
[09:28] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, three
[09:28] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: good. ctrl + c then :P
[09:29] <cristian_c> killed
[09:29] <cristian_c> but no output
[09:29] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: actually run it again: sudo cat /dev/ttyUSB0
[09:30] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: and move the mouse. press a button or two
[09:30] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, with cat /dev/ttyS0, I get , instead: cat: /dev/ttyS0: Input/output error
[09:30] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, I've tried but nothing is printed
[09:31] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, ah, actually there is not the device listed in xinput list
[09:31] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: ctrl + c again then: run: sudo inputattach --mshack /dev/ttyUSB0
[09:31] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, I think I have to use inputattach to set the protocol before
[09:32] <cristian_c> ok
[09:32] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: anything happening with the mouse?
[09:32] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, output is suspended with your line
[09:33] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, usually I try sudo mdetect before
[09:33] <Wiz_KeeD> hello guys
[09:33] <SaberX01> Hello
[09:33] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, if you want, I can paste the sudo mdetect result
[09:34] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: do
[09:34] <Wiz_KeeD> I have a strange issue where ubuntu does not see my wireless card but yesterday after 5-6 reboots it did but didn't connect.Now this morning it doesn't see it at all and neither in windows...
[09:34] <cristian_c> /dev/psaux
[09:34] <cristian_c> intellimouse
[09:34] <Wiz_KeeD> any advice on what could it be?
[09:34] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, but I have read somewhere that the first line is not important
[09:34] <hitsujiTMO> Wiz_KeeD: pastebin output of lspci
[09:34] <cristian_c> the second, instead , yes
[09:35] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: do you have another mouse connected?
[09:35] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, I know that if I use intellimouse with inputattach , it was accepted
[09:35] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, no, only the touchpad
[09:35] <Wiz_KeeD> I don't know how I can do that from one laptop to another hitsujiTMO
[09:35] <cristian_c> but I can connect an other mouse, if you want
[09:35] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: sudo cat /dev/psaux
[09:35] <cristian_c> ok
[09:36] <Wiz_KeeD> but it does not have any Wireless card, yet yesterday what it detected it lspci did show it
[09:36] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: then play with the touchpad... any output?
[09:36] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, command suspended with touchpad and with mouse too
[09:36] <hitsujiTMO> Wiz_KeeD: lspci > ~/output.txt
[09:37] <hitsujiTMO> Wiz_KeeD: cpy that to usb and pastebinit
[09:37] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: so no output at all?
[09:37] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, I can try with inputattach and intellimouse
[09:37] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, no
[09:37] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: then thats for something else. ignore it
[09:39] <Wiz_KeeD> hitsujiTMO, okay
[09:40] <hitsujiTMO> ok. with the usb2serial and mouse connected. can you reboot the pc please. it may need it connected from first boot. (serial devices were sometimes finnicky that way)
 cristian_c: then thats for something else. ignore it
[09:40] <cristian_c> ops, sorry
[09:40] <cristian_c> sudo inputattach --daemon --intellimouse /dev/ttyUSB0
[09:41] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, I could try with: sudo inputattach --daemon --mshack /dev/ttyUSB0
[09:42] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, this command is accepted
[09:42] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: but sudo cat /dev/ttyUSB0    is giving no output when you move the mouse so it prob wont work
[09:43] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, now, I get cat: /dev/ttyUSB0: Device or resource busy
[09:43] <cristian_c> ⎜   ↳ Microsoft Mouse                         	id=12	[slave  pointer  (2)]
[09:44] <cristian_c> after: sudo inputattach --daemon --mshack /dev/ttyUSB0
[09:44] <Wiz_KeeD> hitsujiTMO, https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/Cw-eeZiA0PgXHlvGj9RgD2j0oZmofrw6pu_rNWbyLJhnaYeIWfiYejndTAFdnK6QY_nYKEzCDF2_FjZCGd8tddI6Blxj9kB4Lv2GH9C-dtYyKGzBa67SjdBCHQ
[09:44] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: thats becvause inputattach now has locked that dev. so you can no longer test anything
[09:44] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, I can try to reboot with serial and mouse connected
[09:44] <cristian_c> as you told me :)
[09:45] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, ok, the input device is attached to xinput list anyway
[09:45] <cristian_c> as I pasted above
[09:46] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, I try to reboot with these connected to the usb port
[09:46] <hitsujiTMO> please do. and then we'll test if we can get any output from the device
[09:46] <cristian_c> ok
[09:46] <llutz> Wiz_KeeD: does your laptop allow you to change the wifi-card (mini-pci most likely) to be changed easily? try to pull it out, clean the contacts, put it in again and check for function. if it still isn't recognized, go and buy a replacement
[09:47] <Wiz_KeeD> i don't know if it can, should I call warranty?
[09:47] <llutz> Wiz_KeeD: if you still have warranty, i'd call it
[09:49] <Wiz_KeeD> ok so it's a hardware issue then...
[09:49] <Wiz_KeeD> damn! :
[09:49] <Wiz_KeeD> :(
[09:49] <hitsujiTMO> Wiz_KeeD: simply put ubuntu cannot see any card there anymore. Some odd laptops have hardware switches that disable cards at a low level(such that they would be missing from lspci) do you have such a hardware switch?
[09:49] <llutz> Wiz_KeeD: if neither win nor linux see the pci device at all, its most likely hardware or bios
[09:49] <Wiz_KeeD> hitsujiTMO, I do not see such a switch, nor does the manual show one, and it wasn't needed until now, it showed up all the time
[09:50] <Wiz_KeeD> llutz, should I boot in BIOS?
[09:50] <hitsujiTMO> Wiz_KeeD: look for anything to disable it in the bios then
[09:50] <Wiz_KeeD> thing is, I havn't touched it since I came back from my vacation
[09:50] <SaberX01> Is this a laptop?
[09:50] <Wiz_KeeD> yes
[09:50] <Wiz_KeeD> asus noyenook
[09:51] <hitsujiTMO> Wiz_KeeD: what model?
[09:51] <llutz> Wiz_KeeD: thing is: hardware tend to die in inexpectable ways
[09:51] <SaberX01> Chek you function keys too then .. some have fn + F-Key to enable / disable wireless on them.
[09:51] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, xinput list dows not return no new devices
[09:51] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: are you back yet?
[09:51] <cristian_c> *e
[09:51] <cristian_c> yes, I've rebooted
[09:51] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: thats good. we dont want it to list anything
[09:51] <Wiz_KeeD> Asus R501VB-S3116D
[09:51] <cristian_c> ok
[09:52] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: once again: sudo cat /dev/ttyUSB0
[09:52] <Wiz_KeeD> Also just before it did this it happened that it detected my wireless card but did not detect any networks and had to reboot
[09:52] <hitsujiTMO> Wiz_KeeD: that could be it dying
[09:52] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, command suspended, no output
[09:53] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: play with the mopuse
[09:53] <hitsujiTMO> mouse
[09:53] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, no output
[09:53] <GreyMatter> Currently need help, disabling my laptop from suspending when the lid is closed Ubuntu 13.10, I've found solutions on the forums however I have had no success.
[09:54] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: are you absolutely sure that /dev/ttyUSB0 is the usb to serial adapter? is this missing if you remove the adapter?
[09:54] <SaberX01> Wiz_KeeD, look like Fn +F2 to enable / disable wireless ..its a long shot but worth a shot.
[09:54] <Wiz_KeeD> SaberX01, the only thing that shows up is Networks stack Disabled in uefi mode
[09:55] <Wiz_KeeD> But I did not touch the bios and it briefly worked yesterday detecting it
[09:55] <thom_r> GreyMatter, I'm curious why you don't want your laptop to suspend when the lid is closed?
[09:55] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, have I to find in /dev?
[09:55] <GreyMatter> I'm using this laptop as an xbmc media server
[09:55] <cristian_c> *looking for
[09:55] <SaberX01> Wiz_KeeD, well if it's disabled there, for whatever reason, no chance for it working in the OS unless it's enabled.
[09:56] <GreyMatter> And its sole purpose is to fit inside my TV stand and play movies and what-not.
[09:56] <Wiz_KeeD> network stack?
[09:56] <Wiz_KeeD> in uefi mode
[09:56] <hitsujiTMO> GreyMatter: SystemSettings -> Power
[09:56] <GreyMatter> I've tweaked that
[09:56] <GreyMatter> And it doesn't do anything.
[09:56] <Wiz_KeeD> now it detected it in windows but it does not find any networks....and I didn't touch anything, this is most likely hardware
[09:57] <thom_r> GreyMatter, system settings, power, don't suspend when lid is closed
[09:57] <GreyMatter> Yes, and that does not prevent the laptop from suspending. :(
[09:58] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: ok. unplug the usb 2 serial adapter. does /dev/ttyUSB0 still exist?
[09:58] <GreyMatter> I lose display on my TV when it closes
[09:58] <GreyMatter> And the laptop
[09:59] <SaberX01> Wiz_KeeD, could be flaky HW I suppose.
[09:59] <Wiz_KeeD> blah, and just bought the thing a month ago
[09:59] <Wiz_KeeD> crap
[09:59] <GreyMatter> I attempted to edit the logind.conf file with gedit and then power off and turn the laptop back on
[09:59] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, when I disconnect the adapter from the usb port, ttyUSB0 disappears
[10:00] <GreyMatter> But I noticed after I had saved the file and typed ls in terminal, there is now two logind.conf files : logind.conf, logind.conf~
[10:00] <SaberX01> Wiz_KeeD, stands to reason, if you ahve issues both in Win and *Nix .. something not right in UEFI or HW not up to speed.
[10:00] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: ok. since you're not getting any raw output from /dev/ttyUSB0 when you use the mouse then that suggests that either the mouse is not working ro the usb2serial adapater is not working
[10:00] <GreyMatter> The and the one with the "~" retains all the old settings.
[10:01] <thom_r> GreyMatter, did you check the bios? Might be something in there.
[10:01] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, ok
[10:01] <Wiz_KeeD> SaberX01, I totally agree, that's good logic yes
[10:01] <cristian_c> mmmmm
[10:01] <GreyMatter> I'll take a look now that you mention it.
[10:01] <GreyMatter> Be right back
[10:03] <SaberX01> Wiz_KeeD, I'd be calling Asus or whomever you got the box from and get the Windows side working firmly first, then work on the *Nix side. I have several Asus MB's and they not the greatest for *Nox support.
[10:03] <SaberX01> *Nix
[10:03] <Wiz_KeeD> SaberX01, I imagine that, but it worked perfectly fine in ubuntu from the first run without any tweaking show it should in theory work once they fix the underlying problem
[10:04] <Wiz_KeeD> SaberX01, should I call them 2 days before new year? :)))
[10:04] <SaberX01> Wiz_KeeD, personally, I wouldnt' care when I called if it supposed to work and doesn't .. you paid good money for it, and expect it to work.
[10:05] <Wiz_KeeD> that sounds reasonable yes
[10:06] <SaberX01> Wiz_KeeD, and something working then all of a sudden starts intermittently working now, not at all, sound like a NIC gone bad
[10:08] <cristian_c> uait, a second please, I unblock the privmsg
[10:13] <SaberX01> Man this mouse issue being a real pain to resolve ..
[10:15] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, what tests could I do yet?
[10:15] <cristian_c> :)
[10:15] <cristian_c> test adapter or mouse
[10:16] <cristian_c> *testing
[10:17] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: test another serial device. or test a different usb2serial adapter
[10:17] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, ok, thanks
[10:17] <cristian_c> :)
[10:19] <steve_fi> heya, hoping I can get a push in the right direction ... I bought a Dell Venue 11 pro tablet and I'm trying to install 13.10 or 14.04 on it, and thus far I can figure out that I can see the video output of the micro-HDMI, but not the primary display
[10:19] <steve_fi> I'm also having difficulty with the dell wireless LAN/BT card, which prevents me from just using SSH to figure it out
[10:20] <steve_fi> anyone able to point me in the right direction?
[10:20] <luckymurali> Hi All
[10:20] <lotuspsychje> steve_fi: is this a touchscreen tablet?
[10:20] <steve_fi> lotuspsychje, yeah, a core i5 haswell one
[10:20] <luckymurali> how to recover my files after 'dd' command?
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> luckman212: use your backups
[10:21] <SaberX01> luckymurali, what dd command did you run?
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> steve_fi: and you have ubuntu desktop on it?
[10:21] <steve_fi> thus far no, I've booted the live USB, the "touch" part of the screen works, just displaying nothing
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> !touch | steve_fi
[10:22] <steve_fi> I know the difference between touch and desktop
[10:22] <thom_r> steve_fi ignore ubottu it's a bot
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> steve_fi: im note sure 13.10 got touch support
[10:22] <hitsujiTMO> it has
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> oh really
[10:22] <hitsujiTMO> minor but theres some there
[10:22] <steve_fi> it does, I just told you that the touch screen accepts my touches, the display doesn't work.
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> steve_fi: what GPU do you use?
[10:23] <steve_fi> it's an Intel HD 4200
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> steve_fi: tried the boot option: nomodeset
[10:23] <steve_fi> the cpu is an intel haswell i5 4210Y I think
[10:24] <steve_fi> do I pop that in grub?
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | steve_fi
[10:24] <hitsujiTMO> steve_fi: can you see if more than one screen show up from the command: xrandr
[10:24] <steve_fi> ActionParsnip, cheers, I'll give this a bash first
[10:25] <hitsujiTMO> ActionParsnip: i doubt a tablet has an nvidia or radeon gpu :P
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> hitsujiTMO: its an Intel GPU, so may help. nomodeset isn't specific to NVidia or ATi GPUs :)
[10:26] <luckymurali> SaberX01, dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb
[10:26] <hitsujiTMO> ActionParsnip: I have yet to see an intel gpu that requires it
[10:26] <SaberX01> luckymurali, and are you trying to recover files from /dev/sbd ?
[10:26] <steve_fi> ActionParsnip, thanks! that works!
[10:27] <hitsujiTMO> really? o.O well. gotta take note of that for future then
[10:27] <Rory> What packages do I need on my remote server in order to run GUI applications on it, and have them appear on my local display with X-forwarding over SSH?
[10:27] <Rory> the bare minimum, preferably
[10:27] <SaberX01> Allot of the Intel GPU's for whatever reason seem to be plagued from this.
[10:27] <lotuspsychje> so if desktop version installs on tablets..why do we need ubuntu touch for exactly?
[10:27] <luckymurali> actually i bought new HDD and tried dd command to copy image from old one. but I copied the image from new hard disk to ols one
[10:28] <steve_fi> because the desktop version isnt very touch friendly
[10:28] <SaberX01> luckymurali, if the target of the dd is wehre the files were that you want to recover, there's little hope in that.
[10:28] <lotuspsychje> steve_fi: well come back to chat to feedback how smooth your tablets runs ok
[10:28] <hitsujiTMO> luckymurali: thats unrecoverable
[10:28] <steve_fi> lotuspsychje, I will do, working on getting it running asap :)
[10:29] <llutz> Rory: iirc installing xeyes without any recommends  would pull a working minimum (xorg-common + some other), not sure
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> steve_fi: im curious
[10:29] <SaberX01> luckymurali, you can check the forensic sites and such, but it's pretty tough, here's an example: http://www.noah.org/wiki/Forensics,_Undelete,_and_Data_Recovery
[10:30] <llutz> Rory: nope, sry. thats in x11-apps, too much
[10:30] <hitsujiTMO> SaberX01: that will not work when the data has been overwritten
[10:31] <SaberX01> hitsujiTMO, ddrescue may, but like said earlier, not much hope if it was dd over.
[10:31] <Rory> llutz: I got xserver-xorg-core seemed to do the trick
[10:31] <hitsujiTMO> SaberX01: nope the data has been overwritten. will not work
[10:32] <andyfied> aye
[10:32] <andyfied> i'm a junior data recovery pro, sadly the data is gone and forensics won't help
[10:33] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | andyfied
[10:33] <andyfied> you MIGHT pull some bits up with testdisk/photorec
[10:33] <SaberX01> that's what I said initially, but hey, one has to have hope :-)
[10:33] <andyfied> ta lotuspsychje, i know :)
[10:33] <llutz> hope dies last
[10:33] <lotuspsychje> photorec is one nice package
[10:33] <bajrang> hi , I need help. Zealdoc is not working on my system. http://askubuntu.com/questions/397543/zeal-not-working-on-my-ubuntu-13-04
[10:34] <luckymurali> thanks all
[10:34] <andyfied> photorec is good
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> andyfied: been able to recover many data from ages ago with that :p
[10:34] <_pacmyc_> Hi there! Newbie question; how do I convert all *.SFW files to jpeg in current directory with gm? (gp -convert *.SFW *.jpeg just gives me one file, *.jpeg)
[10:35] <andyfied> photorec won't be able to recover things that have been overwritten with a blank HDD image, but there might be some bits and pieces left
[10:35] <lotuspsychje> andyfied: i recovered stuff on formatted drives
[10:35] <andyfied> formating doesn't overwrite the data
[10:36] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: a zero'd drive tho?
[10:36] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: no :p
[10:36] <llutz> _pacmyc_: for swf in *.swf;do gp -convert $swf ${swf/.swf/.jpg};done                      might work
[10:36] <luckymurali> but i recovered few folders using testdisk
[10:36] <luckymurali> but I lost my home folder
[10:36] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: the person in question lost his data because he used dd the wrong way :P
[10:37] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: oh i see, did her dd zero his drive?
[10:37] <thom_r> what is the best way  to completely wipe data from a hard drive
[10:37] <andyfied> dd is pretty good
[10:37] <_pacmyc_> llutz: Thanx. OK, so the old DOS-style just using wildcard for fileoutput  doesnt work on linux?
[10:37] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: dd'd destination to source, rather than source to destination when cloning the driver
[10:37] <SaberX01> He used: dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb
[10:37] <llutz> _pacmyc_: not for all programs
[10:37] <Rory> thom_r: "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/sed/sda" where /dev/sda is the drive to wipe
[10:38] <andyfied> thom_r: if you're pushed for time a big hammer will work too :D
[10:38] <thom_r> Rory, that will get rid of everything to the point that it can't be recovered no matter how hard you try?
[10:39] <_pacmyc_> llutz: thanx, that worked out!
[10:39] <hitsujiTMO> thom_r: while many people insist that you can recover data from a zero'd drive. there's no actual proof o fit
[10:39] <hitsujiTMO> of it*
[10:39] <Barrytheboy> Hi I am trying to access my additional internal hard drive but I'm getting an error says unable to access"spare" spare is the name I labelled the drive.
[10:39] <andyfied> iiiiin theory you can recover from a 0'd drive, no one will bother spending that much time and money doing it
[10:39] <thom_r> thanks
[10:39] <OltreIrc`10996> Ciao a tutti
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> !it | OltreIrc`10996
[10:40] <andyfied> like in theory you can crack a lot of encryptions but it will take a super computer hundreds of years to do it
[10:40] <Barrytheboy> I also have three hard drives one has windows 8 one has ubuntu and one is for storage.
[10:40] <OltreIrc`10996> !list
[10:41] <Rory> thom_r: It depends how paranoid you are. In principle dedicated data recovery labs might be able to recover data
[10:41] <thom_r> I was just wanting to know in case I ever sell a computer and leave the hard drive in it for the next person. If I just wanted to destroy the drive I think a nice big fire would do the trick.
[10:41] <hitsujiTMO> the !list trigger should be an auto kick at this stage :P
[10:41] <Ben64> Barrytheboy: what format is the drive in?
[10:41] <Rory> thom_r: zeroing the drive will be fine
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: i think you skared him, he thinks youre a warez bot :p
[10:42] <Barrytheboy> @ben64 I'm not sure mate how can I check I am not very technical
[10:42] <SaberX01> Yeah, like Los Alamos size super computer + 100's of CPU yrs to break encryption .. dont have of of those handy to test it out
[10:42] <hitsujiTMO> :)
[10:42] <Ben64> Barrytheboy: pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"
[10:43] <ravionrails> any links from twitter open up linkbucks .com in firefox, any idea how to solve this
[10:43] <Barrytheboy> Ben64 ok two sec
[10:43] <Rory> ravionrails: Check your Firefox extensions list
[10:44] <andyfied> thom_r: zero the drive since it will cost $1000s to get anything off it, if in doubt open the cover and scratch the platters up
[10:44] <Barrytheboy> @ben64 http://pastebin.com/SLMxwXsv
[10:45] <ravionrails> nothing suspicious there Rory
[10:45] <Ben64> Barrytheboy: well what happens if you say yes?
[10:45] <SaberX01> thom_r, somebody mentioned a hammer, that definitely works :-)
[10:45] <thom_r> SaberX01, I mentioned fire
[10:45] <Barrytheboy> @ben64 I've not try shall I type yes and continue
[10:46] <Rory> ravionrails: Does it only occur in Firefox?
[10:46] <andyfied> SaberX01: yes, thump it while it's spinning with a big hammer. we frequently get drives dropped from 6' while spinning. they are always dead
[10:47] <ravionrails> Rory, on both, chrome and firefox
[10:48] <Barrytheboy> @ben64 http://pastebin.com/HBhuAjJP
[10:48] <SaberX01> andyfied, OT but, I put a plexiglass cover and blue LED's on a drive once, looped a chkdsk and watched the thing run, was pretty cool
[10:48] <Rory> ravionrails: Does it occur on other machines connected to the same router
[10:49] <Ben64> Barrytheboy: ok, and which partition are you having problems mounting? is it on the 1000GB drive or the 250GB drive or the 3rd one?
[10:49] <Barrytheboy> 250GB @ben64
[10:50] <Ben64> Barrytheboy: and which version of ubuntu?
[10:50] <thom_r> ravionrails, http://www.securitystronghold.com/gates/remove-linkbucks-com.html
[10:50] <Barrytheboy> 13.10 @ben64
[10:50] <ravionrails> Rory, on other machines too
[10:50] <Rory> ravionrails: OK, your router is compromised
[10:51] <Rory> ravionrails: It's not an issue with Ubuntu, but reset your router to factory settings, and then change the password on it to something more secure
[10:51] <thom_r> I have to agree with Rory, your router is the culprit
[10:51] <ravionrails> ok thanks Rory thom_r
[10:51] <bekks> ravionrails: I dont second that.
[10:52] <ravionrails> i will do it, is any other thing to worry
[10:52] <bekks> From the linkgiven, it is pretty clear that is a browser infection, not a router issue.
[10:52] <thom_r> it's on all computers though
[10:52] <bekks> ravionrails: Please read the link carefully, step through the manual cleanup methods on ALL affected computers and see if it is solved after.
[10:52] <ravionrails> bekks, but it happens on all computers
[10:53] <bekks> ravionrails: I bet the problem will persist after resetting your router. Just for the logs.
[10:53] <ravionrails> i think i should first reset my router
[10:53] <Ben64> Barrytheboy: try this... "sudo mkdir /dev/shm/test; sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdc2 /dev/shm/test;sleep 5; nautilus /dev/shm/test" and see if that works, if not, pastebin the errors
[10:53] <SaberX01> What is the OS on all the computers having the issue?
[10:53] <ravionrails> windows / ubuntu
[10:54] <Barrytheboy> @ben64 shall I copy and paste full text
[10:54] <Ben64> ravionrails: yeah sounds less like an ubuntu problem and more of a security issue with your network or router or something
[10:54] <SaberX01> it's pretty tough to infect a *Nix box from or with a Win virus.
[10:54] <bekks> SaberX01: Its a browser infection as the link states.
[10:54] <Ben64> Barrytheboy: all the stuff in the quotes i posted above, but don't type the quotes themselves
[10:55] <Barrytheboy> @ben64 ok thank trying it now
[10:55] <ravionrails> SaberX01, imo you are right i have never face a problem since last 5 years, it's my first time
[10:55] <SaberX01> But still, how does it jump fences from Win to *Nix
[10:55] <Ben64> dns, mitm, etc
[10:56] <bekks> SaberX01: It is a browser infection... Firefox e.g. works the same across OS.
[10:56] <ravionrails> bekks, it's on chrome also
[10:56] <SaberX01> So they all went to the same site or place and got this bug ?
[10:56] <Barrytheboy> @ben64 will I need to wait awhile icon flashing after >
[10:56] <llutz> if a "virus" needs binary code to run, it won't cross the fence
[10:56] <bekks> ravionrails: And Chrome works the same across OS, too.
[10:56] <Ben64> Barrytheboy: possibly
[10:57] <bekks> SaberX01: Correct.
[10:58] <SaberX01> I guess we'd need to see the bug listed on the bug hunter sites ans see how it exploits the browser.
[11:00] <Barrytheboy> @ben64 tab still flashing? shall I go away and come back later
[11:00] <bekks> SaberX01: If you want to see it there, look for it there ;) Or read the manual removal instructions here: http://www.securitystronghold.com/gates/remove-linkbucks-com.html
[11:01] <steve_fi> is there any way from the bootusb to edit grub for my other "partition", the one I installed Ubuntu to? I hit shift to enter grub at startup, but it boots regardless (need to put nomodeset parmanently on)
[11:01] <SaberX01> bekks, Says affected OS is all Windows.
[11:02] <bekks> SaberX01: And the removal instruction include browser instructions only.
[11:02] <bekks> SaberX01: So its a browser issue.
[11:02] <Ben64> Barrytheboy: should take maybe 30 seconds, maybe you typed it incorrectly?
[11:03] <Barrytheboy> @ben64 I will try again
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | steve_fi
[11:04] <Barrytheboy> @ben64 I start on Sudo end on errors
[11:07] <Ben64> Barrytheboy: huh?
[11:07] <Barrytheboy> @ben64 I sent screen shot of what I typed
[11:08] <Barrytheboy> @ben64 I started copied what you sent from the word sudo to the word errors
[11:08] <Ben64> sudo mkdir /dev/shm/test; sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdc2 /dev/shm/test;sleep 5; nautilus /dev/shm/test
[11:08] <Ben64> exactly that is what you should have typed ^
[11:09] <Barrytheboy> @ben64 shall I pastebin what it said
[11:09] <Wiz_KeeD> SaberX01, now after another reboot it connected to wireless in Windows :\
[11:09] <SaberX01> bekks, seeign tlak of this being both a router and / or browser exploit.
[11:10] <Ben64> Barrytheboy: sure
[11:10] <Barrytheboy> @ben64 http://pastebin.com/hLauX04J
[11:10] <SaberX01> Wiz_KeeD, try UB again, see if it stays up and runnning.
[11:11] <Ben64> Barrytheboy: ok you need to check the partition in windows a couple times, and do not use hibernation at all. windows 8 has it enabled by default, they call it "fast startup"
[11:12] <Barrytheboy> @ben64 how do I do that?
[11:12] <maxxsire_> What's one of the highest end windows 7 tablets that you can put ubuntu desktop on? Or where is a list of the highest end hardware you can put in a windows 7 covertable laptop so it will have both tablet and desktop fuctions?
[11:13] <Ben64> Barrytheboy: http://www.typicaltips.com/2013/02/disable-fast-startup-in-windows-8.html
[11:13] <Ben64> Barrytheboy: for more information on windows stuff, you can ask in ##windows
[11:13] <Barrytheboy> ok cool thanks ben
[11:14] <Wiz_KeeD> SaberX01, now it worked...it took a while longer to connect but it did
[11:14] <Wiz_KeeD> SaberX01, how am I going to explain this to the warranty guys?
[11:14] <Wiz_KeeD> Now it workes...but it didn't before a lot of times
[11:14] <SaberX01> Wiz_KeeD, And you've changed noting in UE / BIOS or settings?
[11:14] <Wiz_KeeD> SaberX01, nothing, just rebooted
[11:14] <Wiz_KeeD> and left it running a bit more while I was using my other notebook
[11:15] <Wiz_KeeD> and now it disconnected from the network...wtf
[11:15] <CTCP2> hi. i have DFI LANParty DK 790FX-M2RS motherboard and i can't boot ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso from USB stick (i've created bootable USB stick with instructions from http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows ). when whole BIOS past, everything just stop and freeze. this is photo of bios when booting should start: http://s30.postimg.org/tzmmsgldt/dfi_1.gif & http://s12.postimg.org/vn43tggml/dfi_2.gif
[11:16] <Rory> CTCP2: Does your BIOS support booting from USB?
[11:16] <SaberX01> Wiz_KeeD, Well I'd test that for a while, in both Win and UB if it goes South again, write up all that you done in the interim and call them.
[11:17] <SaberX01> Wiz_KeeD, Careful though talking about Dual boot and Ubuntu of it did not come with it originally, they may give you a hard time about it.
[11:17] <CTCP2> Rory : ive created BOOTABLE USB for flashing bios update from here http://www.dfi.com.tw/DFI-Lanparty/support/forum/faq_en.html and it worked
[11:17] <SaberX01> *if it did not.... .. .. .
[11:17] <Wiz_KeeD> SaberX01, I was just thinking of that, the will most likely give me crap about it :((
[11:17] <SaberX01> Wiz_KeeD, just tell them the issues as you see them in Windows.
[11:18] <CTCP2> and in BIOS there are options to "boot from removable drive (USB)" and it is selected
[11:18] <CTCP2> (boot sequence order)
[11:18] <Wiz_KeeD> SaberX01, it seems to be working fine in windows...
[11:18] <SaberX01> For now, but it wasn't a short time ago.
[11:20] <Wiz_KeeD> I'll keep using it under windows for like 2 hours then go back to ubuntu
[11:23] <SaberX01> Wiz_KeeD, if you can try to keep tabs on how long it takes to fail, startup to fail  and the frequency.,
[11:24] <Wiz_KeeD> Yeah at least that will provide some statistic...
[11:24] <SaberX01> Wiz_KeeD, like in 24hrs, failed X times = MTBF
[11:24] <azhar> Hi, can someone tell me why  cpuinfo shows all my processor cores to be running at 800MHz  when they should be at 2100 ?
[11:24] <SaberX01> laptop of desktop
[11:25] <StephenS> Im oracle fan
[11:25] <Wiz_KeeD> mtbf?
[11:25] <SaberX01> Mean Time Between Failure
[11:25] <Wiz_KeeD> interessting
[11:25] <SaberX01> azhar, is it a laptop or desktop ?
[11:26] <llutz> azhar: powerstepping, cpu only uses full speed if needed. energysaving
[11:26] <azhar> it's a laptop
[11:27] <azhar> it's always at 800 MHz , till it overheats and shuts.
[11:29] <SaberX01> azhar, the default gonernor is generally set to on-demand, so if your not using any CPU cycles, it can get throttled back. Are you also having Heat faliures?
[11:30] <mautog1> hello
[11:32] <azhar> SaberX01: Even when a lot of applications are running in the background it stays at 800 MHz , Heat failures are not that often usually occur with wine or multiple flash using websites are open.
[11:32] <SaberX01> azhar, for example, my laptop is a dual-core 2.0Ghz box, and if I do:  grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo  .. Im getting 1000 or 1Ghz .. but when I load the laptop, it will throttle up to 2.0.
[11:33] <SaberX01> azhar, when all those background apps are running, have you checked your speed then?
[11:34] <SaberX01> azhar, You can try to adjust with apps like: indicator-cpufreq  where you can set the performance levels wich in turn adjusts clock speed.
[11:34] <azhar> SaberX01: Yeah it's constant at 800MHz . I had the same problem with 13.04 but i installed jupiter and kept it at max performance all the time , now i kinda want to know what's going in the background.
[11:34] <cristian_c> Another question
[11:35] <cristian_c> I've placed a script in /etc/pm/sleep.d/
[11:35] <cristian_c> This script runs another script, an .sh script
[11:35] <cristian_c> but when I suspend the system, I get errors in pm-suspend.log
[11:36] <cristian_c> in the .sh script there is a synclient command
[11:36] <DwarfDefender> sudo sysctl -p /etc/sysctl.conf
[11:36] <DwarfDefender> sysctl: /etc/sysctl.conf(61): invalid syntax, continuing...
[11:36] <DwarfDefender> sysctl: /etc/sysctl.conf(62): invalid syntax, continuing...
[11:36] <DwarfDefender> 2 last lines of sysctl
[11:36] <DwarfDefender> * soft nofile 409600
[11:36] <DwarfDefender> * hard nofile 1024000
[11:36] <FloodBot1> DwarfDefender: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:36] <DwarfDefender> how do i properly solve
[11:36] <miguelaraujo> Hi! I upgraded to 13.10 and now I don't have the global menu on chrome. Why is this happening? is it a bug?
[11:36] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: did you supply the full path of any scripts binaries called in your scripts?
[11:37] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, yes
[11:37] <hitsujiTMO> miguelaraujo: there is no global menu in chrome
[11:37] <miguelaraujo> hitsujiTMO: but I had it on 13.04
[11:37] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, su - $USER -c "sh /usr/local/sbin/setupTouchpad.sh"
[11:38] <hitsujiTMO> miguelaraujo: chrome has its own menu. no matter what DE you use in 13.10 there is no menu. So i'd assume that google have removed it if they detect 13.10
[11:38] <DwarfDefender> http://pastebin.com/TEEPQ1aX
[11:38] <miguelaraujo> hitsujiTMO: understood, thx
[11:39] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: su - $USER -c "/bin/sh /usr/local/sbin/setupTouchpad.sh"
[11:39] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: /bin/su - $USER -c "/bin/sh /usr/local/sbin/setupTouchpad.sh"
[11:39] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, ok, but the .sh script is executed
[11:39] <slind14> hey
[11:39] <slind14> does someone use rsnapshot ?
[11:39] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, the problem is with synclient
[11:40] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: whats in setupTouchpad.sh then?
[11:40] <cristian_c> I don't get sh errors
[11:41] <maxxsire_> What's one of the highest end windows 7 tablets that you can put ubuntu desktop on? Or where is a list of the highest end hardware you can put in a windows 7 covertable laptop so it will have both tablet and desktop fuctions?
[11:41] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, synclient HorizTwoFingerScroll=1
[11:41] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: whats the error that you get?
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> maxxsire_  better aks in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:41] <slind14> is it possible to run rsnapshot like "backup /home/   user@remoteserver.com:/" ?
[11:41] <cristian_c> stdin: is not a tty
[11:41] <cristian_c> No protocol specified
[11:41] <cristian_c> Failed to connect to X Server.
[11:42] <maxxsire_> Whats this channel for?
[11:42] <cristian_c> /etc/pm/sleep.d/00my-sleep-resume resume suspend: Returned exit code 1.
[11:42] <SaberX01> slind14, I don't have the syntax off top of my head, but that's that its designed for, local and remote BU.
[11:43] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: then it seems that it requires an xserver running and its being called when its not. what is it exactly that you are trying to do?
[11:43] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, I must enable that touchpad option after resume
[11:44] <cristian_c> Looking for in the web with google, I've found a page. In this page is written: 'Applying those two solutions together yielded a working result: 1. sleeping for two seconds (the script is already processed in the background, so the resume won't take longer!) 2. running sh -c 'export -p' > env on a normal terminal and sourcing that env file before the call to synclient'
[11:45] <cristian_c> How can I apply these methods? What changes have I to do exactly?
[11:45] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[11:45] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: first. change the name of the script from starting with 00 to starting with 99
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> maxxsire_: ubuntu support questions
[11:46] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, ok, but I hacve read the pm-suspend documentation
[11:46] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: if you're adding a sleep to it then you want it to be the last thing to be called
[11:46] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, numbers have got a particular meaning, 00 means that the sleep.d script is executed last
[11:46] <cristian_c> :)
[11:47] <cristian_c> in the resume phase
[11:47] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, exaclty
[11:47] <cristian_c> *exactly
[11:47] <hitsujiTMO> ahh ok. wasn't aware of that peculiarity.
[11:47] <cristian_c> in suspend phase: 00, 10, .... 99
[11:48] <cristian_c> in resume phase : 99, 80, ... 10, 00
[11:48] <Guest78629> Other question: what could be the problem if the mouse arrow disappears sometimes so that the mouse itself works but you dont see the symbol of the mouse?
[11:48] <hyture> Hi
[11:48] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, backwards
[11:48] <Guest78629> hi
[11:49] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, I've understood this reading the doc
[11:49] <cristian_c> :)
[11:49] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:49] <SaberX01> Hello
[11:49] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: ok then in your resume/thaw method. set the first line to be "sleep 2"           this will give you your 2 seconds delay to wait for the xserver to become active
[11:49] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, ok
[11:49] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, I can paste my actual script
[11:49] <cristian_c> in pastebin
[11:50] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: please do
[11:51] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/evPMf9Gj
[11:51] <hyture> where should I ask for problems with a wireless card in a Ubuntu virtualbox?
[11:51] <hyture> Ubuntu as a guest system
[11:51] <ikonia> hyture: if it's the guest - then it's not a wireless card
[11:51] <ikonia> hyture: that would be the host
[11:51] <hitsujiTMO> hyture: whats the exact problem. vbox should expose it as eth not wireless
[11:51] <ezra-s> hyture, ubuntu will see a wired network card inside a virtualbox
[11:52] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, how can I add the sleep command to the script, exactly? :)
[11:52] <hyture> thats the problem. lsUsb sees the ralink usb adapter but ifconfig not
[11:53] <hyture> so NetworkManager is unable to show wifi networks
[11:53] <bekks>  hyture so you passed through the usb device to your vm?
[11:53] <hyture> yes
[11:54] <bekks> hyture: you still have to install all necessary drivers in your guest.
[11:54] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: try http://paste.ubuntu.com/6662264/
[11:54] <bekks> And honestly, ralibk chipsets are the worst choice for wifi.
[11:55] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, ok
[11:55] <n008> how do I play pair my ubuntu laptop to an external speaker using bluetooth
[11:57] <yuyu> 0w0
[11:57] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, have I to execute also the second point?
[11:57] <cristian_c> '2. running sh -c 'export -p' > env on a normal terminal and sourcing that env file before the call to synclient'
[11:57] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: one issue at a time.
[11:57] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, ok
[11:58] <cristian_c> I try the first method
[11:58] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, thanks
[11:58] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: reboot. and check the error log
[11:58] <cristian_c> ok
[11:59] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, I've to quit but this will be the first thing I'll do
[11:59] <cristian_c> :)
[11:59] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, thanks again
[11:59] <cristian_c> :)
[11:59] <hitsujiTMO> np
[12:04] <quink_> I have to rm .adobe directory each time, or running acroread from cmdline will show nothing, what's the problem?
[12:07] <hyture> hi
[12:07] <hyture> i lost the connection
[12:07] <n008> easier than I thought
[12:08] <hyture> ifconfig wlan0 managed Ethernet
[12:08] <hyture> ¿?
[12:11] <hyture> Link Encap: Ethernet
[12:12] <hitsujiTMO> hyture: can i ask why you choose to passthru your wifi device rather than configure it in the host os?
[12:12] <bekks> hyture: Wifi uses Ethernet, too.
[12:13] <hyture> hitsujiTMO: Because it is unusable
[12:13] <hyture> hitsujiTMO: Touchpad doesn't work
[12:13] <NerdScatore> ciao
[12:13] <hyture> and i have no more usb ports
[12:13] <NerdScatore> !list
[12:14] <hyture> hitsujiTMO: Touchpad fails on all distros
[12:14] <bekks> hyture: The touchpad has nothing to do with wifi.
[12:14] <NerdScatore> !list
[12:14] <hyture> Fedora, Slax, Debian, Megia, Fedora
[12:14] <bekks> hyture: And in every OS, you have to install/configure the driver for your wifi device.
[12:14] <airtonix> bekks: really?
[12:14] <bekks> airtonix: Really :)
[12:14] <airtonix> bekks: last time i did that in ubuntu was about five years ago
[12:15] <hyture> bekks: yes but that was the main reason i am using a VB machine
[12:15] <bekks> hyture: Whats a "VB machine"?
[12:15] <NerdScatore> !list
[12:15] <bekks> NerdScatore: Stop it, finally. Try reading what ubottu tells you.
[12:16] <hyture> bekks: VirtualBox. On Mint, the adapter works without any extra configuration "just plug¬play"
[12:16] <hitsujiTMO> hyture: so your deivces wont work in ubuntu in as your host os, so you're using ubuntu as a guest and passing thru the devices to ubuntu ... where they will again not work??? that seems to be what i'm getting from what you've said.
[12:16] <bekks> hyture: And on other OS, it doesnt. So you have to configure it.
[12:16]  * airtonix chuckles
[12:16] <mautog1> hello ubuntu guys
[12:17] <hyture> No. xd
[12:17] <hitsujiTMO> hyture: what os is your host os?
[12:17] <BluesKaj> !it | NerdScatore
[12:17] <NerdScatore> !list
[12:17] <bekks> NerdScatore: Stop it.
[12:17] <BluesKaj> bekks, don't think he understands English
[12:18] <airtonix> it
[12:18] <hyture> Okay. Ralink USB adapter works fine with Linux as Host OS
[12:18] <bekks> BluesKaj: Obviously he doesnt understand italian either.
[12:18] <bekks> hyture: Then use it on your host OS.
[12:18] <hyture> bekks: I can't.
[12:18] <mautog1> theres a Fillippinino here
[12:18] <bajrang> hi , I am getting error while turning on an application. it says "Global hotkey binding problem detected" ..And then I when I press OK is closes down. pls help ..
[12:18] <bekks> hyture: Why not?
[12:18] <hitsujiTMO> hyture: why cant you ... if it works?
[12:19] <amrutansu> hi
[12:19] <hyture> bekks: Because Touchpad doesn't work, Touchscreen acts like a mouse, it hibernates when a 2nd batteri is about 3%
[12:20] <hitsujiTMO> hyture: again.. what does the touchpad have to do with thewifi?
[12:21] <hyture> hitsujiTMO: Because that is the reason why I don't use the USB Wifi with Linux as OS system where it works fine
[12:22] <amrutansu> how do i reduce brightness in ubuntu 12.04 ? I got an option in search panel and brought the adjust bar to zero but nothing happens
[12:22] <bekks> hyture: the touchpad is totally unrelated to your wifi. Why cant you use the _wifi_ on your host OS?
[12:22] <hyture> ..
[12:22] <bajrang> Anybody having problem in installing Zealdoc on Ubuntu 13.04 ??
[12:22] <airtonix> hyture: not sure if it's obvious, but you're not making sense.
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> !find zealdoc
[12:23] <hitsujiTMO> hyture: /facepalm. hyture configure the wifi on the host OS. this will be then exposed as a wired connection in the guest OS. Then you will not have issues
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> bajrang  what's zealdoc?
[12:24] <SaberX01> Offline document reader, pretty nifty actually.
[12:24] <bajrang> MonkeyDust : http://zealdocs.org/
[12:24] <StephenS> djangooooo
[12:24] <abhinav> bor.up.nic.in hindi font problem
[12:24] <StephenS> djangooo
[12:24] <hitsujiTMO> hmm.. thats what appcache is for :P
[12:25] <Guest56817> hello everyone, can anyone please help me here? I had ubuntu 12.04 installed on my laptop. I install compiz and then decided to kill it as it was access too much of resources. Now when I restarted my laptop, I  don't get login screen. It just freezes there with blank screen. I tried to reinstall 12.04 on top of my current install w/o formatting the root drive, but now in this new install I don't have any drivers (no wi/fi, bluetooth
[12:25] <Guest56817> , etc).
[12:25] <hyture> Now, I have W8 as Host OS where the adapter is working. I added it to "Filter devices". Guest OS (Ubuntu) display it on lsusb as a Ralink Wifi adapter but Networkmanager is unable to scan wireless networks.
[12:25] <bekks> hyture: Use the adapter on the host OS.
[12:25] <Guest56817> Can anyone please assist me?
[12:26] <abhinav> hindi font how to use on bor.up.nic.in
[12:26] <hyture> bekks: I want to use it on the virtual machine
[12:26] <hitsujiTMO> !in | abhinav
[12:26] <bajrang> SaberX01 : Do you use it ? on ubuntu 13.04 ?
[12:26] <hyture> On the Host OS i already have Internet
[12:26] <SaberX01> bajrang, no .. but have used it before.
[12:26] <bekks> hyture: Then configure a network adapter for your vm and dont pass through the USB.
[12:27] <hitsujiTMO> hyture: then use that internet in the guest OS!
[12:27] <Guest56817> Anyone? Please?
[12:27] <bajrang> SaberX01 :  on ubuntu 13.04 ?
[12:27] <thom_r> Guest56817, just wipe the hard drive and do a clean install
[12:27] <hyture> hitsujiTMO: Thats not the problem
[12:27] <SaberX01> bajrang, no .. on a different distro all together.
[12:27] <abhinav> ya but the problem is up.bor.nic.in and go to satyapan then not show in hindi
[12:28] <gordonjcp> !anyone | Guest56817
[12:28] <thom_r> Guest56817, can you boot from a usb?
[12:28] <bajrang> SaberX01 :  ok.. But this not working on ubuntu 13.04.
[12:28] <yuyu> mositesu
[12:28] <hitsujiTMO> Guest56817: what desktop environment were you using ?
[12:28] <thom_r> 12.04
[12:28] <SaberX01> bajrang, I used it for generating Docsets .. nothing even closely related to your question / issue.
[12:28] <Guest56817> thom_r, I've a lot of valuable data, can't take backup as It doesnt allow me to mount pendrive. Also have windows installed, cant format all.
[12:28] <bekks> hyture: Then why do you create problems where there are no problems? What is the reason you want to use the USB wifi dongle in your guest OS, instead just using your working internet connection?
[12:29] <abhinav> using 13.10
[12:29] <bajrang> SaberX01 :  ok
[12:29] <thom_r> Guest, backup your data, boot into Windows, format the Ubuntu partition, and do a clean install
[12:29] <BluesKaj> Guest56817, you have to format the / drive and reinstall the OS to it , as long as you still have a /home partition for your data
[12:30] <Guest56817> thom_r, yes I'm currently using live usb.
[12:30] <abhinav> any body know hindi
[12:30] <hitsujiTMO> !in | abhinav
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> abhinav  try the indian channel, or is it pakistan
[12:30] <Guest56817> hitsujiTMO, ubuntu 12.04 if that is what you are asking.
[12:31] <SaberX01> thom_r, he can do that from the installer by simply selecting manual partitioning, not need for Windows intervention.
[12:31] <Guest56817> Can I access my files in install ubuntu, from this live usb?
[12:32] <Guest56817> *installed
[12:32] <trijntje> Hi all, how can I get my Broadcom BCM43235 wireless usb-dongle to work with ubuntu?
[12:32] <hyture> bekks: because securiting script and tools need it
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> !bcm | trijntje start here
[12:32] <SaberX01> thom_r, unless he needs / wants a BU first.
[12:32] <thom_r> what is a BU
[12:32] <bekks> hyture: So your touchpad is totally unrelated to what you are trying to achieve. You could have said that from the beginning.
[12:32] <SaberX01> backup
[12:32] <thom_r> ah, understood
[12:33] <bekks> hyture: Then pass through your wifi, and configure it in your vm.
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> Guest56817  importaznt data should always be backed up (backupped?)
[12:33] <bekks> hyture: As you have been told earlier, multiple times.
[12:33] <bekks> MonkeyDust: "Important data" implies that there is a backup already. :)
[12:34] <SaberX01> WIFI doesn't work in VM's, it's ethx either passthru or bridged.
[12:34] <bekks> SaberX01: That not true. Passed through USB devicesd do work in VMs.
[12:34] <SaberX01> Bridged beign the easiest setup most of the time.
[12:34] <SaberX01> Ok.
[12:35] <SaberX01> I dont think that's the case, USB devices, yes, wifi, I dont think so, but could be wrong.
[12:35] <Guest56817> Now as I'm logged in using live USB, how can I back up my data from installed Ubuntu, either to windows or to a usb?
[12:36] <Guest56817> "sudo fdisk -l" doesn't show me windows partitions
[12:36] <thom_r> Guest56817, plug in another usb and save the files to it
[12:36] <bekks> SaberX01: You are wrong. USB device - whichever - do work.
[12:36] <Guest56817> thom_r, ok let me try
[12:36] <trijntje> MonkeyDust: that page takes me to http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/brcm80211, but I'm not sure what to do with the info on that page
[12:36] <James0r> there an apt-get command to reinstall all files that are marked as 'no longer required'?
[12:36] <thom_r> should work, just blindly stabbing in the dark as I have never had that problem before.
[12:37] <James0r> i installed a .deb file and unknowingly removed a bunch of important packages.
[12:37] <hyture> bekks: okay, it strange because I hoped that it was plug&play like having it as host SO
[12:37] <ozberk> hi guys I need to ubuntu touch channels name
[12:37] <SaberX01> bekks, please show us a links to setting up a USB WIFI passt-hrough, that would be a good factoid.
[12:37] <bekks> hyture: We told you multiple times that if it doesnt work out of the box, you have to configure it.
[12:37] <hitsujiTMO> hyture: whats the exact device id?
[12:37] <ogra_> ozberk, unsurprisingly it is #ubuntu-touch (but it is very quiet there over the holidays)
[12:37] <bekks> SaberX01: www.virtualbox.org -> Documentation.
[12:38] <SaberX01> Noted
[12:38] <bekks> SaberX01: I dont think that "go reading the vbox docs" is a good factoid ;)
[12:39] <SaberX01> bekks, Did I say it was, no.
[12:39] <hyture> bekks: Sorry , Too much time using VmWare workstation for WiMax troubleshooting
[12:39] <bekks> SaberX01: I didnt say that you said it.
[12:39] <bekks> hyture: VMware is unrelated to Virtualbox.
[12:43] <BazGee> http://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/1tzd55/for_everyone_impatiently_waiting_for_mobile/ - everyone click on the up arrow on this post so it goes higher so everyone sees this as I think it helps people to stop being impatient! :)
[12:43] <hyture> BazGee: wrong channel
[12:43] <Meerkat> that's against the reddiquette
[12:44] <thom_r> Guest56817, how's it going?
[12:44] <hitsujiTMO> down vote time :P
[12:44] <ObrienDave> for sure
[12:44] <hyture> Down voted
[12:45] <morpheus7> hello - i'm looking to use glances on 12.04 running on ESXi. does anyone know if it accurately reports the CPU usage?
[12:45] <bekks> morpheus7: Depends on your settings.
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> morpheus7  install it, then decide if it suits your needs
[12:46] <morpheus7> bekks: MonkeyDust: is the glances application itself a CPU hog?
[12:46] <hyture> VB doc is not very helpful. ;/
[12:46] <bekks> morpheus7: Of course it is - do you think realtime stats grabbing happens with 0% CPU time?
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> morpheus7  best way to find out, would be by trying, i guess
[12:47] <bekks> hyture: Virtualbox is out of question. It is entirely an issue of configuring your host OS.
[12:47] <bekks> hyture: Vbox has nothing to do with what you are doing inside your guest.
[12:48] <morpheus7> bekks: yeah, but i assumed it would be low usage. i'll install it and see for myself :)
[12:48] <bekks> morpheus7: thats the best way to go, yes.
[12:48] <ObrienDave> down voted ;P
[12:50] <airtonix> anchors away!
[12:51] <hyture> Okay
[12:51] <hyture> Another question
[12:52] <hyture> Where i should report bugs related to "evdev"? Launchpado or bugzilla.kernel.org?
[12:52] <ikonia> hyture: depends on the bug
[12:53] <hyture> New touchpad hardware
[12:54] <ikonia> hyture: that's not a bug - that's just a senctence
[12:55] <falematte> Hi all, I have a crash after launching google-earth on a Ubuntu 12.04 64Bit machine. Here is the error log http://pastebin.com/2ywzRM47
[12:57] <falematte> Hi all, I have a crash after launching google-earth on a Ubuntu 12.04 64Bit machine. Here is the error log http://pastebin.com/2ywzRM47 . Anyone may help?
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> falematte  it didn't say "Google-earth invalid http request"?
[12:57] <ObrienDave> !patience | falematte
[12:58] <falematte> MonkeyDust, mmm don't think so...
[12:59] <SaberX01> Funny enough, having not read the "Documentation" for Vbox in a few weeks, chp6 mentions noting about WIFI in the Guest other than being bridged from the host.
[12:59] <lug> Hi all, I have a problem with Google-earth.I don't see terrain, while I can see borders, streetview, panoramio, etc. Tried a lot of different solutions to no avail
[12:59] <thom_r> lug, what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[13:00] <hyture> ikonia: What did you mean?
[13:00] <lug> This is my first week with Linux
[13:00] <thom_r> lug, what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[13:01] <bekks> hyture: Whats the actual bug with evdev you are experiencing?
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> lug  what's the outcome of    cat /etc/issue
[13:01] <lug> Verion 12.04 LTS
[13:02] <hyture> bekks: It seems that it is detected but a "touchpad switcher" is off
[13:02] <hyture> there isn't any switcher or FN keys combination
[13:02] <bekks> hyture: That what is detected? Please for a full sentence which describes the "bug".
[13:02] <bekks> *form
[13:03] <lug> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[13:04] <hyture> bekks: It is detected by xiput as Synaptics 103S, on Xorg.0.log there is no (EE) or (II) errors.
[13:05] <hyture> Powertop says using 0.25% of battery.
[13:06] <hyture> it is enabled on GPointingDeviceSettings
[13:08] <TJ-> hyture: Is this any help to you? http://darkjoker.github.io/2013/10/20/Touchpad-switcher.html
[13:10] <hyture> I revised values on gconf-editor
[13:10] <patrickgamer> my LG has been wrongly detected and I can't get the right resolution options. How can I force Ubuntu to "try again" in detecting my monitor type? It's an ultra-wide (2560 x 1080) and the distortion is pretty bad
[13:12] <hyture> I don't know what i shoud try
[13:12] <hitsujiTMO> patrickgamer: whats it detecting as can can you pastebin the contents as /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:12] <hyture> *should
[13:12] <hyture> I get no answer on #xorg
[13:13] <hitsujiTMO> s/can can/and can
[13:14] <patrickgamer> hitsujiTMO:  k sec.
[13:16] <hillary_l> which command for clearing temporary folders in ubuntu 12.04
[13:16] <patrickgamer> hitsujiTMO: http://dpaste.com/1529662/
[13:16] <hitsujiTMO> patrickgamer: full Xorg.0.log please
[13:18] <hyture> bekks: should i report it as a "bug"
[13:18] <patrickgamer> hitsujiTMO: kk - it's big. I need to install xsel. one moment
[13:18] <hitsujiTMO> patrickgamer: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:18] <bekks> hyture: I havent followed your random statements.
[13:20] <patrickgamer> hitsujiTMO: heh nice. thanks. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6662610/
[13:20] <hitsujiTMO> patrickgamer: it certainly seems to be detecting the correct res Modeline "2560x1080"x0.0
[13:21] <patrickgamer> hitsujiTMO: but it shows as "goldstar company" in the Screen Display GUI and only offers 1080p res option
[13:21] <dfgf> sooory i lost connection again
[13:22] <dfgf> Should i report it as a "bug" on evdev?
[13:22] <hitsujiTMO> patrickgamer: can you run: xrandr | pastebinit
[13:23] <dfgf> Touchpad doesn't work on any distro
[13:23] <dfgf> I also tried adding some Grub enrties
[13:24] <patrickgamer> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6662629/
[13:24] <TJ-> dfgf: What is the exact make/model of the PC?
[13:24] <dfgf> HP Split x2
[13:24] <hitsujiTMO> patrickgamer: HDMI-1 i presume?
[13:26] <dfgf> TJ-:HP Split x2
[13:26] <TJ-> dfgf: And it comes with Ubuntu pre-installed by HP?
[13:27] <patrickgamer> hitsujiTMO:  yes that's correct
[13:27] <patrickgamer> i've got two monitors connected to my laptop
[13:27] <patrickgamer> the laptop screen is disabled (for now)
[13:27] <dfgf> No.
[13:27] <patrickgamer> hitsujiTMO: the acer screen is fine
[13:28] <BluesKaj> patrickgamer, have you tried to install nvidia additional drivers , since nouveau default driver is loaded , it may not be able to handle the monitor's native resolution
[13:29] <TJ-> dfgf: See this "...One thing I did that solved the touchpad problem was to disable in the power options the ability to stop the usb/pci-express devices to save energy..." at  http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Lockups-Freezes-Hangs/HP-Split-13-X2-Mouse-Touchpad-FREEZES/td-p/3201863
[13:30] <TJ-> dfgf: Further in that forum post another user says "Return while you can .. because the problem is the conector between the screen and the keyboard, if you try to move the screen everything will start to malfunction .. like usb will get disconnected, the headset will fail, the touchpad will freeze, the sdcard will eject, and so one ..."
[13:30] <dfgf> TJ- Thats on Windows
[13:31] <dfgf> On Linux HDD, keyboard, and USB works so no problems...
[13:31] <TJ-> dfgf: You obviously haven't read the posts. It's a hardware issue those posts are talking about
[13:31] <patrickgamer> BluesKaj: no, i hadn't considered that
[13:31] <TJ-> dfgf: If that isn't your issue then I suggest you contact HP support
[13:32] <dfgf> TJ-: Disable powervoptions is on Windows Device Manager, a config tab
[13:32] <BluesKaj> patrickgamer, is your laptop using the "optimus system" , 2 gpus ?
[13:33] <dfgf> Yep, In ordet to obtain "We don't support Ubuntu on your computer. Thanks anyway"
[13:33] <patrickgamer> BluesKaj: it's a ROG G74S. Vid is a 560M 3GB card
[13:33] <patrickgamer> discrete
[13:33] <TJ-> dfgf: The same thing can be done on Linux using the power control interfaces in the sysfs  under "/sys"
[13:35] <patrickgamer> i'm going to try installing the nvidia driver after a conference call
[13:35] <TJ-> dfgf: According to the HP service manual Ubuntu can come pre-installed: See page 3 of http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c03958968.pdf
[13:36] <hitsujiTMO> patrickgamer: since your connection via hdmi that could also be the limiting factor. HDMI 1.0 spec has a maximum resolution of 1920 x 1200. for your monitor you need to ensure the laptop is capable of hdmi 1.3
[13:37] <BluesKaj> patrickgamer, just to be sure , run sudo lshw -C video , in the terminal and paste line "configuration"
[13:37] <dfgf> Yes but HP doesn't have a Synaptics touchpad 103S troubleshooting section
[13:38] <patrickgamer> BluesKaj: yeah it does b/c I'm fine when I boot into windows
[13:38] <dfgf> bekks: I have reconfigured VirtualBox. Now it is unable to scan anything
[13:39] <BluesKaj> patrickgamer, we need to show the driver in use , hence the terminal command
[13:39] <hitsujiTMO> BluesKaj: driver is nouveau. have that from his xorg.log
[13:42] <BluesKaj> nouveau works ok with some monitor resolutions , but not all...think he needs the nvidia-current driver , hitsujiTMO
[13:43] <hitsujiTMO> BluesKaj: yup. i'd agree there
[13:44] <patrickgamer> great.
[13:44] <hitsujiTMO> patrickgamer: am i right in thinking this is a 450?
[13:44] <patrickgamer> i'm on a work hangout but as soon as I get out I'll install that driver.
[13:44] <BluesKaj> patrickgamer, in the terminal , sudo apt-get install nvidia-current , then you'll have to reboot
[13:44] <patrickgamer> hitsujiTMO: no, it's an nvidia 560M
[13:46] <BluesKaj> patrickgamer, alt+F2 type additional drivers , check what's available
[13:46] <hitsujiTMO> 560m. hmm. interesting that you're not using optimus then.
[13:46] <dfgf> TJ-: What can I do if HP doesn't answer me? Submit a bur report to bugzilla.kernel.org?
[13:49] <Trebs> Noob needs help with desktop on hd4000 not fitting 50" screen. xrandr only solution?
[13:50] <hitsujiTMO> Trebs: what do you mean by "not fitting 50" screen"?
[13:50] <Trebs> edges outside tv-screen
[13:51] <hitsujiTMO> Trebs: thats an issue with the tv. you need to disable overscan
[13:51] <Trebs> ok and option exists on older tv's as well? 5 year old plasma
[13:51] <cigrits> yeah check your scale settings.
[13:52] <hitsujiTMO> trebs they should do
[13:52] <yassine111> watch
[13:52] <cigrits> i have a ~3 year old samsung with that option
[13:52] <Trebs> ok thank you, I'll go check
[13:52] <patrickgamer> thanks guys
[13:55] <dfgf> has anyone dealed with HP support for Linux related issues?
[13:57] <nettezzaumana> hello
[13:58] <nettezzaumana> i resolved my question already, sorry, no ask :D
[13:58] <ikonia> dfgf: yes, many times
[13:58] <ikonia> dfgf: how does this fit into #ubuntu ?
[13:59] <dfgf> I don't know if i should fill a bur report, becaue i've tried everithing i can imagine.
[13:59] <dfgf> *because
[14:00] <ikonia> dfgf: a bug report on what ?
[14:00] <dfgf> There s not a Touchpad swither but SO acts like it would
[14:01] <ikonia> dfgf: what you said makes no sense
[14:01] <chach23> Hi! I have gigabyte p34g I understand it has an ambient light sensor. Could someone suggest how do I go about getting ubuntu to detect it and display the value please?
[14:02] <ikonia> chach23: does it have linux support ?
[14:02] <chach23> ikonia: the company itself does not appear to support linux, but ubuntu runs on it well
[14:02] <dfgf> Sorry Touchpad is detected and managed by "evdev" but it seems "disabled". It doesn't move cursor, or a click or anything
[14:02] <ikonia> chach23: that doesn't mean that device supports linux
[14:02] <ikonia> dfgf: have you checked it's linux support status
[14:02] <TJ-> dfgf: If the touchpad works under Windows on that device, but not with Ubuntu, try this testing guide and if you confirm its a software issue, report a bug as recommended in those testing guides: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/Testing
[14:03] <dfgf> TJ-: It doesn't work on SUSE, Maegia, Fedora 20...
[14:03] <ikonia> dfgf: have you checked it's linux support status
[14:03] <dfgf> same issue
[14:04] <TJ-> dfgf: Well, start with Ubuntu and then you can always link to an upstream bug report later
[14:04] <dfgf> ikonia: evdev module is loaded and running
[14:04] <ikonia> dfgf: have you checked it's linux support status
[14:05] <dfgf> ikonia: no. How?
[14:05] <ikonia> dfgf: look up the device from the hardware vendor and see if there is any linux support for it - if so what does it detail the support requirements are
[14:05] <dfgf> ah
[14:05] <ikonia> dfgf: also looking up the device on one of the many linux hardware compatability databases, and again, checking it's support requirements
[14:06] <chst> ls
[14:07] <Maveryck> ciao
[14:08] <GREECE|Sinis> arrivederci
[14:11] <hardy1> hi
[14:11] <hardy1> i need some help please
[14:11] <dfgf> ikonia: I'd like to use my TouchPad with a different operating system (DOS, UNIX, OS/2, Linux). You can use the TouchPad as a standard pointing device with these systems by using a standard mouse driver. Synaptics does not provide TouchPad drivers for these systems, so you won't be able to take full advantage of all of TouchPad's enhanced features with these systems. However, independent software developers have created Linux drivers that
[14:12] <dfgf> xor-input-synaptics
[14:12] <hardy1> lsusb tells me 007: ID 0fce:adde Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications AB Boot loader
[14:12] <hardy1> and i want to connect over adp
[14:12] <hardy1> i mean a fastboot-connection
[14:12] <nyc-h0st_> all, i have a process console-kit-dae using 4GB of memory, what in the world is that thing?
[14:13] <hardy1> i suppose that i need firmware still, but how i can doo it?
[14:13] <nyc-h0st_> seems some process to track users, but 4GB of memory?
[14:13] <nishi> frnd how to install wine-1.1.14?
[14:13] <Rory> !atemyram | nyc-h0st_
[14:15] <dfgf> ikonia: But Ubuntu uses evdev insthead of synaptics
[14:18] <TJ-> nyc-h0st_: See bug #232557
[14:18] <TJ-> nyc-h0st_: Ahh, ubottu isn't showing links... here it is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/consolekit/+bug/232557
[14:19] <dfgf> ikonia: There is no info on google if y type my synaptics touchpad
[14:21] <MssngPrsn> so i'm having trouble getting grub2 to recognize my xp partition, i have grub-customizer installed, but don't know what to enter in to make it show up
[14:22] <ogra_> TJ-, thats fixed since natty ...
[14:23] <belkinsa> Is there a way to sync the programs that you have installed via Software Center?
[14:24] <BluesKaj> MssngPrsn, open a terminal, sudo os-prober, then run, sudo update-grub
[14:24] <BluesKaj> MssngPrsn, grub customizer is clunky and dangerous
[14:24] <trijntje> belkinsa: I think so, if you have ubuntu one. You can also use dpkg --get-selections, google it for the exact procedure
[14:25]  * ObrienDave loves grub-customizer ;P
[14:25] <trijntje> belkinsa: I see in software center you can go to file -> synchronise computers
[14:26] <belkinsa> But will that stay if you reinstall Ubuntu on that same computer?
[14:27] <belkinsa> Or is that all in Ubuntu One?
[14:27] <trijntje> belkinsa: yeah, because it stores it in ubuntu one. So if you reinstall and connect to ubuntu one again you should get all your programs back
[14:27] <belkinsa> Okay, thank you.
[14:28] <trijntje> But I've never used it myself, you can also store all your programs in a file as a backup
[14:28] <trijntje> in a terminal: dpkg --get-selections > software.txt, then if ubuntu one fails you can still have all your programs
[14:30] <ObrienDave> trijntje, and how would you load those to re-install?
[14:30] <ObrienDave> *that file
[14:31] <belkinsa> I think it just gives a list what is installed on your computer/
[14:31] <belkinsa> ObrienDave^^^
[14:31] <ObrienDave> yup, got it. there is probably a way to do that
[14:32] <trijntje> ObrienDave: belkinsa http://askubuntu.com/questions/101931/restoring-all-data-and-dependencies-from-dpkg-set-selections
[14:32] <belkinsa> Thank you.
[14:32] <ObrienDave> trijntje, thanks
[14:36] <sixtustha5> Hello all
[14:37] <oquidave> hello
[14:38] <oquidave> how do i upgrade my ubuntu 12.04 to 13.10 from a usb flash disk?
[14:38] <OerHeks> oquidave, upgrade 12.04 > 13.04 > 13.10
[14:39] <OerHeks> so that could take such a time, fresh install will be faster
[14:39] <oquidave> OerHeks: is that possible using iso images already downloaded?
[14:40] <OerHeks> oquidave, unlikely all your installed packages are available on an iso
[14:40] <oquidave> OerHeks: am fine with just upgrading the core OS itself
[14:41] <linuxearth> aria2c is not downloading at the max speed
[14:41] <linuxearth> what can be done?
[14:41] <OerHeks> oquidave, putting in a 13.10 iso and adding it to your sources, won't work
[14:42] <OerHeks> !upgrade
[14:42] <linuxearth> aria2c is not downloading at the max speed...what can be done?
[14:42] <wlemuel> linuxearth: u can try axel
[14:42] <linuxearth> axel?
[14:42] <linuxearth> what's that dude?
[14:43] <wlemuel> linuxearth: another application for download (multi-)
[14:43] <linuxearth> oh
[14:43] <linuxearth> its better than aria2c?
[14:43] <ObrienDave> linuxearth, look for apt-fast ppa
[14:43] <wlemuel> linuxearth: I always use axel ^k^
[14:43] <linuxearth> axel is that good?
[14:44] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[14:49] <ubuntuaddicted> hi guys, i have a reproducible crash with pulseaudio. i am trying to get the audio to play through my internal analog card as well as the hdmi out from my AMD graphics card. i enabled the simoltanious output from within pulseadudio preferences and everytime i play something with vlc pulse crashes and restarts
[14:49] <oquidave> OerHeks:  okay so i've to move from 12.04 to 12.10 to 13.04 then finally to 13.10 ?
[14:50] <OerHeks> oquidave, yes indeed
[14:50] <ObrienDave> oquidave, yes, but if you wait until April, you can go from 12.04 to 14.04 directly
[14:51] <imghost> oquidave, why not a fresh install?
[14:53] <TJ-> ogra_: Hasn't been backported to Precise though, according to the last comment by Scott
[14:53] <MssngPrsn> so i'm having trouble getting grub2 to recognize my xp partition, i have grub-customizer installed, but don't know what to enter in to make it show up
[14:54] <ObrienDave> MssngPrsn, did the suggestion given you work?
[14:54] <BluesKaj> MssngPrsn, did you try the suggestions ?
[14:55] <MssngPrsn> I didn't see any suggestions
[14:55] <ObrienDave> BluesKaj> MssngPrsn, open a terminal, sudo os-prober, then run, sudo update-grub
[14:55] <BluesKaj> ??
[14:55] <PleaseHelpMe> I'm trying to install nvidia 331 drivers on  Ubuntu 12.04 LTS with the Edgers repository, but when I try to load the nviida kernel module, I keep getting an error:  http://pastebin.com/tTexiYX4   <-- any suggestions?
[14:55] <oquidave> ObrienDave: thanks, but i can't wait till then though
[14:56] <PleaseHelpMe> hey is anyone using an NVidia 780M card?
[14:56] <MssngPrsn> BluesKaj: No volume groups found
[14:56] <PleaseHelpMe> BluesKaj: herro ;)
[14:56] <PleaseHelpMe> <-- Rey
[14:56] <ObrienDave> oquidave, i c. then yes, you MUST stair step ;P
[14:56] <PleaseHelpMe> * Roey
[14:56] <oquidave> the problem is i've a custom application pre-bundled with ubuntu 12.04 and so i need to just upgrade
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[14:58] <ogra_> TJ-, precise (12.04) is a year younger than natty (11.04) ... would be funny if it would not have the fix
[14:58] <MssngPrsn> BluesKaj: Here's my pastebin: http://paste.debian.net/73264/
[15:01] <ubuntuaddicted> has anyone gotten audio to output to 2 sound cards using pulseaudio? my pulse will crash everytime when I try
[15:01] <nemsterr> hello
[15:05] <nemsterr> i'm having trouble installing ubuntu alongside windows 8. first the cd wouldnt boot, i disabled secure boot and installed the 'booting tool' included on the installation cd. grub starts, when i 'try ubuntu without instalation' i receive an error message "failure reading sector 0x0 from 'cd0' you need to load the kernel first; press any key to continue"
[15:05] <nemsterr> when i press anything it goes back to the grub
[15:06] <thecodethinker> When I check my OpenGL version with glxinfo I get two version numbers. The core profile version (3.3) and the OpenGL verison (3.0). Should I be able to use opengl 3.3 programs or only 3.0 and below?\
[15:07] <nemsterr> when i try installing i receive a message 'windows failed to start. a recent hardware or software change might be the cause. to fix the problem insert windows installation disc and click repair your computer
[15:07] <BluesKaj> mnemon, try installing ubuntu in legacy mode in uefi/bios
[15:07] <alket> Is there a portable LAMP ?
[15:07] <patrickgamer> BluesKaj: I've switched drivers via "additional drivers" and rebooted. I still don't get new resolution options.
[15:08] <BluesKaj> oops nemsterr^
[15:08] <nemsterr> BluesKaj: is that for me ?
[15:08] <BluesKaj> yes
[15:08] <nemsterr> ok thanks buddy. ill give a go and report
[15:08] <robotti^> 667
[15:08] <BluesKaj> patrickgamer, check the nvidia settings
[15:09] <BluesKaj> nvidia control that is
[15:09] <patrickgamer> BluesKaj: hmmm. nvidia has the right monitor... but the resolution settings app doesn't
[15:10] <patrickgamer> waa?
[15:10] <patrickgamer> BluesKaj: ah... i think i see
[15:10] <ehnde> i'm trying to install 13.10 and the installer is stalling out on me. it has been sitting at "Preparing to install Ubuntu" for 20 minutes now. any suggestions?
[15:11] <patrickgamer> BluesKaj: xserver only set up on one display, not both
[15:11] <BluesKaj> patrickgamer, nvidia puts acontrol gui where you casn set up resolutions , but not sure where to find it on unity gnome , I'm a kde user
[15:11] <PleaseHelpMe> Heya BluesKaj
[15:11] <loa> hello. how i can inspect what use my space on hard drive?
[15:11] <BrianH> Is there a better way to see all installed Applications on a system than using Unity's Dash?
[15:11] <PleaseHelpMe> BluesKaj: could you help me with an nvidia driver issue?  I try and load the nviida kernel module but get an error
[15:11] <BrianH> Something perhaps like OSX's Launchpad?
[15:12] <patrickgamer> BluesKaj: found it. i've got to enable xserv on both screens and reboot
[15:12] <loa> for example fast move between direcotories and check size of different directories.
[15:12] <ehnde> BrianH: sudo dpkg -l
[15:12] <BrianH> ehnde: GUI-side
[15:12] <ehnde> BrianH: sorry, i don't use their gui for package management
[15:12] <PleaseHelpMe> BluesKaj: I get this:  http://pastebin.com/tTexiYX4
[15:13] <BrianH> ehnde: Not for package management, but simply opening an App
[15:13] <BluesKaj> PleaseHelpMe, which nvidia kernel module , how are you trying to load it?
[15:13] <ehnde> BrianH: ahhh ok, i'm using plain old gnome
[15:14] <ehnde> BrianH: you can press alt f2 to "run an application" i think
[15:14] <ehnde> but that still just brings up the unity search
[15:14] <PleaseHelpMe> BluesKaj: kernel module:  nvidia proprietary drivers 331
[15:14] <BrianH> ehnde: Right, I mean viewing all installed Apps, like this: http://currenteditorials.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/launchpad.png
[15:14] <BrianH> Unity's Dash is terrible to navigate.
[15:14] <BluesKaj> PleaseHelpMe, from additional drivers ?
[15:15] <ogra_> BrianH, use th filters
[15:15] <PleaseHelpMe> BluesKaj:  I am issuing "sudo modprobe nvidia", and get the error I linked to above.
[15:15] <PleaseHelpMe> BluesKaj: I actually installed the Edgers PPA
[15:15] <culight> Hi guys, I'm a undergrad student with limited experience and I want to get involved in the Gnome accessibility projects. I'm not sure where to start. What is the best place for me to start?
[15:15] <PleaseHelpMe> trhat provides NVidia 331 drivers
[15:16] <BrianH> I think Slingshot might be what I'm looking for: https://launchpad.net/slingshot
[15:16] <BluesKaj> PleaseHelpMe, why ? have you tried the additional drivers already available , alt+F2 , type additional drivers
[15:17] <PleaseHelpMe> BluesKaj:  because only the 331 drivers seem to suppor the NVidia 780M
[15:17] <PleaseHelpMe> otherwise I would have gone with stock
[15:17] <hitsujiTMO> loa: disk usage analyzer
[15:17] <BluesKaj> 331 drivers are experimental , PleaseHelpMe , afaik ,
[15:17] <PleaseHelpMe> sigh.
[15:17] <PleaseHelpMe> right, I know.  So are the 319 drivers.
[15:18] <PleaseHelpMe> curen ubuntu stock drivers are 304
[15:18] <PleaseHelpMe> *current
[15:18] <PleaseHelpMe> s/stock/proprietary
[15:18] <BluesKaj> PleaseHelpMe, ok try this , sudo apt-get install nvidia-331
[15:18] <PleaseHelpMe> BluesKaj: nvidia-331 is already the newest version.
[15:18] <BluesKaj> 304 driver should provide dir and 3D
[15:18] <gara> test
[15:19] <PleaseHelpMe> not for the 780M card though
[15:19] <BluesKaj> PleaseHelpMe, have you looked at the additional drivbers as i suggested?
[15:20] <actionparsnip> loa: you can see the size of the directories in the pwd with:    du -sch ./*
[15:20] <actionparsnip> PleaseHelpMe: are you getting 3D acceleration?
[15:20] <loa> actionparsnip, yeah i use it, but i want something quick, with database or something.
[15:21] <PleaseHelpMe> BluesKaj:  checked Additonal Drivers.  "Found but not in use".
[15:21] <PleaseHelpMe> "Activated but not in use", rather
[15:21] <PleaseHelpMe> that's what it lists there.
[15:21] <actionparsnip> loa: hmm, not sure of anything like that. I know you can search for files using locate after updated, something like that for space, not sure tbh
[15:21] <actionparsnip> PleaseHelpMe: have you tried:   sudo nvidia-xconfig
[15:21] <PleaseHelpMe> actionparsnip: I am not getting 3D acceleration.  I  get errors when I try to modprobe the nvidia module (12.04 LTS here btw, trying to install drivers for an NVidia 780M)
[15:22] <ouyes> hello everybody, how are you guys doing on UBUNTU
[15:22] <PleaseHelpMe> actionparsnip: the error is in installing hte kernel modjule
[15:22] <actionparsnip> PleaseHelpMe: if you run:   sudo lshw -C display    do you see an Intel GPU as well?
[15:22] <loa> actionparsnip, yeah it is right example base from "locate"
[15:22] <actionparsnip> PleaseHelpMe: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[15:22] <BluesKaj> PleaseHelpMe, then choose one that is lower down that's more stable and click on activate
[15:22] <PleaseHelpMe> yes I do have an Intel haswell on this, actionparsnip
[15:22] <hitsujiTMO> PleaseHelpMe: according to the nvidia site nvidia-319 in ubuntu repo supports 780m
[15:23] <PleaseHelpMe> BluesKaj: the 331 driver listed is the only one there
[15:23] <actionparsnip> PleaseHelpMe: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc     its a single line, so no need to pastebin :)
[15:23] <BluesKaj> PleaseHelpMe, try actionparsnip suggestion , you may have an optimus dual gpu setup
[15:24] <PleaseHelpMe> actionparsnip: precise
[15:24] <actionparsnip> PleaseHelpMe: then you have that Optimus garbage and need Bumblebee to support it.https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[15:25] <PleaseHelpMe> that's what we were seeing.  Itis an MSI  laptop
[15:25] <wallzero> Greetings. I have installed Ubuntu 13.04, but it has not installed the wireless drivers. How to I install the drivers for an Intel 6235 adapter?
[15:25] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero: whats output of: lspci
[15:26] <PleaseHelpMe> BluesKaj, actionparsnip:  MSI GT70 laptop
[15:26] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6235 (rev 24)
[15:26] <BluesKaj> PleaseHelpMe, sudo lshw -C video, pastebin the output
[15:27] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero: lspci -nn | grep Network                          then please
[15:28] <ubuntu_girl> hi boys can u  help me understand this regular expression ?  sed 's,^.*index="\([^"]\+\)".*<list>\([^<]\+\)</list>.*$,\1\,\2,g' or how can i decode it online?
[15:28] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6235 [8086:088e] (rev 24)
[15:28] <BluesKaj> bb in 5 mins
[15:29] <gara> test
[15:29] <p3rror> hello
[15:29] <p3rror> how to upgrade kernel linux in an ubuntu
[15:29] <actionparsnip> p3rror: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:30] <p3rror> actionparsnip, no I can not
[15:30] <p3rror> actionparsnip, run apt-get upgrade
[15:30] <p3rror> actionparsnip, this is a prod machine and I need to keep it as is it
[15:31] <PleaseHelpMe> BluesKaj: in a sec
[15:31] <p3rror> actionparsnip, all I need is to upgrade the kernel
[15:31] <actionparsnip> wallzero: Raring is EOL in a matter of weeks. I suggest you use a wired connection and upgrade to Saucy, or clean install Saucy, then upgrade to Trusty in April
[15:31] <p3rror> actionparsnip, only
[15:31] <somsip> ubuntu_girl: my stab at it "{anything} followed by index="{anything}" {anything} <list>{anything}</list> anything, should be replaced globally by the anything in double quotes, with a comma, and the anything contained in the <list> tag'
[15:31] <actionparsnip> p3rror: yes you will get the latest kernel in the repositories
[15:31] <PleaseHelpMe> BluesKaj: so with Bumblebee, is there a way to set power management policy?  I want to only use the NVidia card.  This laptop is a CUDA development laptop.
[15:31] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[15:32] <p3rror> actionparsnip, when I run apt-get upgrade it will upgrade many packages that I need to keep
[15:32] <actionparsnip> PleaseHelpMe: it will use the Intel by default but if you prefix commands you want to use the Nvidia GPU with 'optirun' it will use the Nvidia
[15:32] <PleaseHelpMe> BluesKaj: I just installed bumblebe
[15:32] <PleaseHelpMe> ok
[15:32] <p3rror> actionparsnip,  all I need is to get the last starble kernel version from kernel.org
[15:32] <PleaseHelpMe> actionparsnip: is there a way to set it to NVidia by default?
[15:32] <actionparsnip> p3rror: then try:  sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic    and it will only update that package
[15:32] <actionparsnip> PleaseHelpMe: seems a bit silly to have optimus then.....
[15:33] <PleaseHelpMe> I just want to get nvidia running.
[15:33] <PleaseHelpMe> right now,
[15:33] <PleaseHelpMe> I get this error when I try loading the driver.
[15:33] <actionparsnip> PleaseHelpMe: some applications don't need it, like text editors and so forth
[15:33] <actionparsnip> PleaseHelpMe: did you install Bumblebee?
[15:33] <PleaseHelpMe> actionparsnip: I did.
[15:33] <PleaseHelpMe> it inbstalled without error.
[15:33] <p3rror> actionparsnip, no there are already a personalized kernel installed instead of the ubuntu kernel
[15:34] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero: what is the output of cat /etc/issue
[15:34] <p3rror> actionparsnip, I can get the kernel from kernel.org but I need to keep the same config find in .config
[15:34] <PleaseHelpMe> actionparsnip: so yes, I did install bumblebee.  What now, reboot?4\
[15:34] <PleaseHelpMe> *reboot
[15:34] <p3rror> actionparsnip, I did a locate .config but I did not find it
[15:35] <PleaseHelpMe> BluesKaj, actionparsnip: I will BRB (this is Roey btw)
[15:35] <wallzero> actionparsnip: My apologies, this is a fresh install of Saucy. Not 13.04 then, but 13.10.
[15:35] <actionparsnip> !kernel | p3rror
[15:36] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: Saucy.
[15:36] <actionparsnip> PleaseHelpMe: yes, reboot
[15:36]  * actionparsnip wishes Optimus would fade out
[15:36] <PleaseHelpMe> actionparsnip: aye aye, keptin
[15:37] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero: please pastebin output of: dmesg | grep iwlwifi
[15:38] <Toph> i upgraded from 13.04 to 13,10 but I seem to still have the former login screen appearing each time the computer comes out of suspend. I have power set to login without password, but the former login seems still active
[15:38] <actionparsnip> wallzero: if you run:    sudo iwlist scan | egrep -I 'chan|ssid'     do you see lots of networks on the same channel?
[15:39] <molqr> trying to install ubuntu 12.04 on a win8 box .. it has uefi ... so when it comes to the grub installation stage.. it can't find windows ... should i install grub to MBR?
[15:40] <actionparsnip> !uefi
[15:40] <bekks> !grub2
[15:40] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: dmesg | grep iwlwifi outputs nothing.
[15:41] <HelpRoeyThanks> HI
[15:41] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero: please pastebin dmesg
[15:41] <actionparsnip> wallzero: if you run:    sudo iwlist scan | egrep -I 'chan|ssid'     do you see lots of networks on the same channel?
[15:41] <HelpRoeyThanks> BluesKaj,  actionparsnip;  well now the nvidia 331 driver loads.
[15:41] <actionparsnip> HelpRoeyThanks: cool
[15:41] <BluesKaj> HelpRoeyThanks, ok good to hear
[15:42] <HelpRoeyThanks> However, now I get this error when I try glxinfo: trogdor@trogdor:~$ glxinfo  name of display: :0.0 Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig
[15:42] <HelpRoeyThanks> BluesKaj, actionparsnip:  ^
[15:42] <BluesKaj> HelpRoeyThanks, install mesa-utils
[15:42] <actionparsnip> HelpRoeyThanks: try:  optirun glxgears
[15:42] <ubuntuaddicted> could someone tell me how to apply a diff patch to a file please?
[15:43] <ubuntuaddicted> well, i think i have a diff patch
[15:43] <ubuntuaddicted> this is what I have http://cgit.freedesktop.org/pulseaudio/pulseaudio/patch/src/pulsecore/resampler.c?id=e4adf9c4d8a33509828b9b7658d4cccc7f5af563
[15:44] <HelpRoeyThanks> BluesKaj, actionparsnip:  optirun glxinfo WORKS
[15:44] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/gtiSC37i
[15:44] <actionparsnip> HelpRoeyThanks: yes, that's the NVidia GPU stepping in, otherwise you will use the Intel thing and save power
[15:44] <wallzero> actionparsnip: I only see lo and eth0
[15:44] <HelpRoeyThanks> BluesKaj, actionparsnip:  How can I set this up so that my desktop environment and all other commands gthat use GL use NVidia by default?
[15:44] <OerHeks> ubuntuaddicted, short guide to diff and patch >> http://jungels.net/articles/diff-patch-ten-minutes.html
[15:45] <actionparsnip> HelpRoeyThanks: you will need to make aliases, or edit the .desktop files that run applications you want to run on your Nvidia GPU
[15:46] <HelpRoeyThanks> actionparsnip: there is no qui k setting in the bumblebee configuration for this?
[15:46] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero: output of: lsmod
[15:46] <actionparsnip> wallzero: do you dual boot?
[15:46] <BluesKaj> actionparsnip, are we absolutely sure he's got an optimus setup , never did see any indication so far , or is that particular nvidia chip only used in optimus setups
[15:46] <actionparsnip> HelpRoeyThanks: you will just need to edit them using a text editor.
[15:47] <HelpRoeyThanks> BluesKaj, actionparsnip: bbswitch won't work?
[15:47] <HelpRoeyThanks> actionparsnip: edit the what, the desktop files?
[15:47] <wallzero> actionparsnip: No. This is a fresh install with LUKS and ZFS. Everything else is working smoothly. I believe the wifi is an independant issue
[15:47] <actionparsnip> BluesKaj: NVidia + Intel = optimus     lshw -C display shows both so it uses optimus junk and is a massive headache
[15:48] <HelpRoeyThanks> actionparsnip: I don't seem to have a ~/.desktop
[15:48] <BluesKaj> ok actionparsnip i must have missed that paste
[15:48] <actionparsnip> HelpRoeyThanks: eg:  gksudo gedit /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop       and change the Exec=   command to start with 'optirun'
[15:48] <xdccMule[692FR]> hello
[15:48] <HelpRoeyThanks> oh, ok
[15:48] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/niSRcNdW
[15:48] <actionparsnip> wallzero: is it a laptop?
[15:48] <wallzero> actionparsnip: Yes.
[15:49] <ubuntuaddicted> OerHeks, so is this a patch file? http://cgit.freedesktop.org/pulseaudio/pulseaudio/patch/src/pulsecore/resampler.c?id=e4adf9c4d8a33509828b9b7658d4cccc7f5af563
[15:49] <actionparsnip> wallzero: is the wifi enabled in BIOS? Do you have a hardware switch or key combo to enable / disable the wifi?
[15:50] <wallzero> actionparsnip: No. No hardware switch and it is enabled in the bios. I had a similiar install of 13.04 previously with LUKS and BTRFS with working wifi.
[15:50] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero: can you try: sudo modprobe iwlwifi
[15:50] <rostam> hi I am not sure if this is a right place to ask. So forgive me in advance.  I would like to unmount the filesystem on my linux box when reboot command issued. Is this possible? thx
[15:51] <OerHeks> ubuntuaddicted, i am not sure what to make out of that
[15:51] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod-module.c:791 kmod_module_insert_module: could not find module by name='iwlwifi'
[15:51] <jhutchins> rostam: What other behavior do you imagine occurrs?
[15:52] <OerHeks>  ubuntuaddicted you might want to check #pulseaudio too
[15:53] <actionparsnip> wallzero: are there any bugs reported?
[15:54] <ubuntuaddicted> OerHeks, ok, so you don't know what patches look like? I guess I assumed since you linked me to a patch guide you were familar with the standard format they were in
[15:54] <wallzero> actionparsnip: None that I know of. I could not find any.
[15:55] <OerHeks> ubuntuaddicted, yes, but i used to have the patch or diff file as seperate file, not like this.
[15:55] <demophobia> Should IRC be the last resource one tries in problem solving?
[15:55] <demophobia> I've compiled a list of problems I have with ubuntu at http://demophobia.netne.net/compprob.html
[15:55] <demophobia> I'm thinking perhaps I should post in message boards before coming here ...
[15:56] <demophobia> and search the internet before posting
[15:56] <actionparsnip> wallzero: may want to report the issue. Maybe a BIOS update would help, or try the boot option:  noacpi
[15:56] <qcjn> hi. one of my computer is dead. I'm in it right now with a booted usb of ubuntu. I ran an "sudo fdisk -l" but it doesn't see the disk with the Ubuntu system on it ? Any suggestion ?
[15:56] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero: dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-firmware
[15:56] <rostam> jhutchins, sometimes after issuing reboot command. My system is stopped at the grup menu.
[15:56] <jhutchins> demophobia: An internet search enegine should generally be your first resource.
[15:56] <demophobia> so 1) search internet, 2) post in message boards, 3) post link to message board here ... is that a good use and understanding of this channel?
[15:56] <actionparsnip> demophobia: use it as well as searching. Its all part of the community
[15:56] <jhutchins> demophobia: You should also look for relevant pages on wiki's related to the distribution and to the general subjects you're looking for.
[15:56] <ikonia> demophobia: there is nothing wrong with just using irc
[15:57] <jhutchins> demophobia: If you've at least doen that and your question isn't too obscure, or about some rare configuration or software, IRC can be great real-time help.
[15:57] <demophobia> You don't see any hierarchy or ordered methodology for problem solving, ikonia ? i'm wondering about the mechanics of getting a problem solved as quickly as possible, while also minimizing the work needed by the community.
[15:57] <actionparsnip> demophobia: if you unload then reload the driver module for the wireless, does it work ok then?
[15:57] <jhutchins> rostam: That is after it has shut down.
[15:57] <ikonia> demophobia: just ask if you need help - it's a pretty simple model
[15:57] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: linux-firmware install    linux-firmware-nonfree install
[15:58] <demophobia> actionparsnip, I don't know if that's what unplugging and plugging back in does or not ...
[15:58] <ubuntuaddicted> OerHeks, i'll copy all that text into a file to create my patch file BUT do I need this line? index 17f1783..38c5202 100644
[15:58] <jhutchins> rostam: If you pay attention to the console messages as the system shuts down, you will see "unmounting all file systems" as one of the later steps.
[15:58] <actionparsnip> demophobia: give it a try, if it is the fix, we can make it happen each time you boot
[15:58] <demophobia> i have nearly no experience with drivers -- last was back with ubuntu 6.06 or 9.04 trying to get wireless working
[15:58] <demophobia> i don't know how to unload and reload a driver
[15:58] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero: this is just odd. cant find the module yet its installed :P
[15:58] <Dragon64> laptop with an external monitor running an updated install of Ubuntu 13.10. When I close the lid it suspends even though settings in the ui are set to "do nothing" and I have changed /etc/systemd/logind.conf to add "HandleLidSwitch=ignore" and rebooted. any suggestions ?
[15:59] <actionparsnip> demophobia: sudo lshw -C network     will show the module, you can then run:  sudo modprobe -r foo; sleep 3; sudo modprobe foo
[15:59] <rostam> jhutchins,  yes you right, then the question is why I get stuck on grub menu sometimes when I get issue reboot command? thx
[15:59] <actionparsnip> Dragon64: does the system have a make and model?
[15:59] <demophobia> thanks, i'll write this down. i thought i should return the adapter to the store and buy a different one -- netgear advertises this product as being for "windows laptops"
[15:59] <demophobia> and i've got a desktop here
[15:59] <demophobia> (and not windows)
[15:59] <Dragon64> yes its an hp pavillion g4 ... low end laptop
[16:00] <OerHeks> ubuntuaddicted, i don't know, maybe someone else here knows?
[16:00] <actionparsnip> demophobia: the physical kit doesn't matter, laptop and desktop doesn't matter any
[16:00] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: I installed non-free and the iwlwifi-6000g2b-6.ucode after I had issues but before I came on IRC for help. Would I have to update-initramfs?
[16:00] <XonDK> ok anyone here able to help me, for some reason lightdm is refusing to work correctly even though before my reboot it worked just fine and worked together with x11vnc to give me what I needed, is there any other way to get access to the unity/ubuntu desktop via vnc for my remote server, only have terminal access currently
[16:00] <jhutchins> demophobia: I would include man pages, /usr/share/doc/*, and the web pages for projects, often found through sourceforge.
[16:01] <actionparsnip> XonDK: what do you do on the remote system in the VNC session?
[16:01] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero: update-initramfs would be triggeed by a hook
[16:01] <hitsujiTMO> triggered*
[16:01] <jhutchins> demophobia: As far as the wireless adapter goes, rfkill is a utility you can use to control that.
[16:01] <demophobia> actionparsnip, I see that in principle concerning hardware, however, this adapter is also about the width of a thumbnail, and I think something the size of an older USB flash drive -- e.g. ~6 cm -- might physically be capable of receiving a stronger signal
[16:01] <OerHeks> ubuntuaddicted, i think you have the diff now, and any @@ is a patch
[16:01] <my> jizz
[16:01] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: I ran it manually. I will restart and also check my BIOS settings.
[16:02] <actionparsnip> demophobia: try the module manipulation. it may be the fix :)
[16:02] <actionparsnip> XonDK: what is the purpose of the VNC connection? You will probably find there is a sleeker and faster alternative
[16:02] <jhutchins> rostam: I've had that problem sometimes as well - in fact, I think my server is currently doing that.  (I don't reboot it that often.)  I think that somehow grub thinks a "keyboard event" has occurred - you've hit some key to stop the default boot process.  I don't know if there's  a single fix for it.
[16:03] <XonDK> actionparsnip: I use it for general navigation and easier set up of various stuff, and I already put a few things onto the desktop, which i'd like to use, totally open to better ways though
[16:03] <ubuntuaddicted> OerHeks, ok, i just don't know if i need those couple beginning lines OR the end line
[16:03] <Dragon64> lid action is handeled by logind.conf correct?
[16:03] <actionparsnip> XonDK: surely when its setup, it's done...?
[16:03] <Yud_Zroc> I just did a SMART test on my HDD, and was wondering about "Read Error Rates" and "Seek Error Rates". I am wondering what is a "very bad" value vs a "normal" value
[16:04] <actionparsnip> XonDK: if you want file access, then you can access SFTP using Nautilus and access your file securely over the network
[16:04] <XonDK> actionparsnip: yeah, that's just it, it was set up, x11vnc was working fine and reboot and boom and now lightdm does not want to work at all
[16:04] <rostam> jhutchins,  I found this on web: http://askubuntu.com/questions/55551/how-can-i-force-ubuntu-to-boot-on-a-stuck-boot-menu
[16:04] <jhutchins> Yud_Zroc: Generally, a value that is increasing over time is bad.
[16:04] <demophobia> jhutchins, wouldn't rfkill correspond to the GUI in the top right of the screen, where i can click to enable/disable it? the problem, though, is that i am first met with the 'enable wireless' greyed out, and the message 'disabled due to hardware switch' ...
[16:04] <XonDK> actionparsnip: wasn't completely done with the setup using the GUI because I am not comfortable with linux yet and its easier to find out stuff with it
[16:05] <gvo> XonDK: Had the same thing happen when I did a apt-get upgrade.
[16:05] <XonDK> gvo: found a way to fix it?
[16:05] <gvo> Nope, finally installed another dm
[16:05] <qcjn> if fdisk doesn't show the disk it's because there's a problem with this disk (or connection ) ?
[16:05] <hitsujiTMO> Yud_Zroc: just looking at mine, i have 0 and 0
[16:05] <Yud_Zroc> jhutchins: I just looked at it for the first time, and the number is 68m for read (assesment says ok) and seek error 39m(assesement also says ok)
[16:06] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: BIOS confirms power to the wifi adapter and update-initramfs did not make a difference.
[16:06] <Yud_Zroc> time for a new HDD I assume?
[16:06] <actionparsnip> Yud_Zroc: is it an old drive?
[16:06] <ubuntuaddicted> can anyone tell me if this is a correctly formatted unified diff file?
[16:06] <ubuntuaddicted> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6663434/
[16:07] <Yud_Zroc> actionparsnip: no its a 5 month old computer
[16:07] <actionparsnip> Yud_Zroc: you could always try hdparm to set more specific drive tunings
[16:07] <hitsujiTMO> Yud_Zroc: whats your threshold at?
[16:07] <nashant> Hey guys. Anyone else have issues with the cursor in chrome?
[16:07] <Yud_Zroc> actionparsnip: I am not familir with that, more details on my HDD 68783944 (Normalized: 114, Threshold: 6, Worst: 99)
[16:08] <demophobia> actionparsnip, when you said "sleep 3", do you mean to wait three seconds before executing the next terminal command?
[16:08] <Yud_Zroc> That is Read Error Rate
[16:08] <jhutchins> demophobia: "Hardware Switch" is what rfkill handles.
[16:08] <actionparsnip> demophobia: yes, run it as one command and it will happen on its own
[16:09] <actionparsnip> Yud_Zroc: search online, possibly could be a bad drive but its still under warranty
[16:09] <Yud_Zroc> actionparsnip: thanks ill check it up
[16:11] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero: once again can you try: sudo modprobe iwlwifi
[16:12] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod-module.c:791 kmod_module_insert_module: could not find module by name='iwlwifi'
[16:12] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: But /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf exists.
[16:13] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero: i'm confised on this one
[16:14] <actionparsnip> wallzero: what is the output of:  uname -a
[16:14] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: This seems like a similar problem but with 13.04: http://askubuntu.com/questions/353047/no-wlan0-interface-after-uninstall-ubuntu-13-04
[16:15] <wallzero> actionparsnip: Linux xxxxxxxxx 3.11.0-14-generic #21-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 12 17:04:55 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:15] <actionparsnip> wallzero: running Saucy (Ubuntu 13.10)?
[16:15] <ubuntuaddicted> well scrap that, even if i apply the patch i'd still have to recompile and reinstall pulseaudio so I may as well just compile the latest pulse and install that.
[16:15] <actionparsnip> !info Linux-image saucy
[16:15] <actionparsnip> !info Linux-image-generic saucy
[16:15] <wallzero> actionparsnip: Yes.
[16:15] <actionparsnip> !info linux-image-generic saucy
[16:16] <actionparsnip> wallzero: ok so fully updated :)
[16:16] <ubuntuaddicted> anyone have a good guide for installing the latest pulseaudio into 12.04.3?
[16:16] <actionparsnip> ubuntuaddicted: check the official documentation 'sound troubleshooting procedure'
[16:16] <actionparsnip> ubuntuaddicted: its a big command but will update your Alsa
[16:17] <actionparsnip> ubuntuaddicted: and pulse
[16:19] <ubuntuaddicted> actionparsnip, looking at sound troubleshooting guide i don't see anywhere for installing the latest pulse and also into 12.04.3 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1885240
[16:19] <jhutchins> demophobia: In answer to your question about lists, you can embed lists within lists, but redefining the style of a DL so that it automatically numbered the entries isn't a standard feature.
[16:20] <actionparsnip> ubuntuaddicted: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[16:20] <actionparsnip> ubuntuaddicted: too obvious?
[16:20] <HelpRoeyThanks> BluesKaj, actionparsnip  Hi!  So after installing Bumblebee, I was able to launch the Unigine Valley benchmark with Optirun.  My only issue now is performance:  I get 8 FPS where I see others on Youtube withg the same CPU and GPU pullling 40.
[16:22] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero: whats output of: lspci -k | grep Network
[16:23] <demophobia> jhutchins, thanks, that's the impression i'm getting. unfortunately, embedding an ordered list and definition list doesn't seem to work, since it only numbers the lists, rather than the list entries ...
[16:23] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6235 (rev 24)
[16:23] <ubuntuaddicted> actionparsnip, oh ok, the "procedure" instead of the "guide" Thanks. I see that would only install version 2.0 for precise and I need a version after July of 2012 since there was a patch released then that fixes a resampler.c crash
[16:24] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: It seems some Arch users have had issues as well, but kernel 3.10 should have fixed them: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=164764&p=2
[16:25] <jhutchins> demophobia: Yes, that is the expected behavior.
[16:26] <vantage> Hi, I'm running a new Dell XPS 13, which I've upgraded to 13.10. Currently the wifi doesn't seem to work with any kernel above 3.8. It's the Intel 7260 and I've grabbed the latest firmware and copied it over to /lib/firmware. How can I tell which firmware it's using?
[16:26] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero: sorry, i should have asked for output of: lspci -k | grep -A 2 Network
[16:26] <jhutchins> demophobia: It is possible to do this by embedding individual DLs within each OL entry, or by manually formatting each LI.
[16:27] <actionparsnip> ubuntuaddicted: a search for:   Ubuntu sound troubleshooting procedure     gives it as the top link
[16:27] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6235 (rev 24) Subsystem: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6235 AGN
[16:28] <demophobia> ah, i see, thanks, jhutchins ... it seems better to use CSS to format the dt rather than create a dl for each li
[16:28] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: It also lists my ethernet card, which is working: 03:00.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTS5209 PCI Express Card Reader (rev 01)
[16:29] <demophobia> or format the dl, if not each dt ...
[16:29] <Lizards|Work> join #ubuntu-server
[16:29] <Lizards|Work> bah
[16:29] <Lizards|Work> sorry ;)
[16:29] <actionparsnip> wallzero: try:   dmesg | grep -i Centrino
[16:29] <actionparsnip> demophobia: did the command work ok, for the wifi device?
[16:30] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: There is no output.
[16:30] <actionparsnip> !bug 1180256 | wallzero
[16:30] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero: can you try booting an older kernel and see if it loads?
[16:31] <ubuntuaddicted> has anyone compiled pulseaudio from git into 12.04.3?
[16:31] <demophobia> actionparsnip, sorry, i haven't tried. i've been doing other things. i will probably try it tomorrow when i boot up the PC again.
[16:32] <demophobia> thank you, though, since it could save me ~$40 ... i dunno if i should try replacing the card for speed, though -- i need to compare the specs of these wireless adapters
[16:32] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: I only have 3.11.0-14-generic and 3.11.0-12-generic
[16:33] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero: try 12
[16:34] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: Okay I will have to use Trusty.
[16:34] <actionparsnip> wallzero: its LTS (when it is released) :)
[16:35] <wallzero> actionparsnip: Oh thats good. In April?
[16:41] <x0011BF> Oi oi, I got this bash script online to set up a virtual wifi network, and it doesn't quite work in its original form. The original form is this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6663582/
[16:41] <x0011BF> The problem is something to do with dhcpd, which doesn't seem to work as advertised. It works when modified as such, to use dnsmasq: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6663574/
[16:41] <x0011BF> In the original script, there's a "killall dhcpd" call at the end. I find that if I killall dnsmasq, it messes with my DNS and the host computer's connection. However, I also find that if for some reason the script needs to be re-started, I need to re-start the host computer completely to get it working again.
[16:41] <actionparsnip> wallzero: yes in April 2014
[16:42] <x0011BF> Is there something better I can be restarting, like just the networking or DNS or something?
[16:42] <x0011BF> Or possibly even better, is there some way to make it so I don't need to restart anything? I'm not quite sure what it is that is persistent about the task.
[16:43] <nautiluss> Is it possible to compile a libreoffice installer from ubuntu for windows?
[16:44] <jhutchins> x0011BF: Don't you want to manipulate the DHCP client instead of the server?
[16:44] <actionparsnip> nautiluss: how do you mean? Like make an MSI to install with etc?
[16:45] <nautiluss> actionparsnip, mhm. I'd like to enable a module and compile it
[16:45] <aFeijo> I need help with memcached :)
[16:46] <nautiluss> I just attempted on cygwin but the dependencies are non-stop
[16:46] <Pici> nautiluss: This really would be a better question from the libreoffice people to determine how their build process works for Windows.
[16:47] <BluesKaj> nautiluss, you don't need a linux installer for libreoffice , http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=win-x86&version=4.1.4&lang=en-US
[16:47] <nautiluss> Pici: placed my eggs in multiple baskets
[16:47] <mar77i> hmm. is there a way to store keyboard and mouse settings from the current X11 state?
[16:48] <mar77i> I have a wireless keyboard and on lightdm it's just not there
[16:49] <cholsu_> make ubuntu phone
[16:50] <ikonia> </slow hand clap>
[16:50] <nautiluss> BluesKaj, I won't be able to use the main version of LO because the telepathy module (allows for collaboration) is disabled by default
[16:51] <aFeijo> my memcached is mixing up my sites, how to fix this?
[16:52] <[[thufir]]> I'm on 13.10 and what is this "google news"  app (what?) with an icon in unity2d.  It acts like it's caching news articles, there are these little pop ups every second or two.  what?  I can't find much about this.
[16:52] <cholsu_> cls
[16:52] <Lizards|Work> you must've clicked one of the nag pop-ups
[16:55] <actionparsnip> [[thufir]]: does it run in your system tray in the top right?
[16:56] <x0011BF> jhutchins: Oops, missed the notification somehow.
[16:56] <x0011BF> jhutchins: Why would I want to manipulate the client?
[16:56] <x0011BF> This script runs on the host computer, which is broadcasting a wifi network, so it needs to be a DHCP server for anything that connects.
[16:59] <bekks> x0011BF: I'd set up dhcpd properly then, without weird scripts.
[17:00] <x0011BF> Well in this case I'm using DNSMasq.
[17:00] <[[thufir]]> actionparsnip: exactly.  well, system tray on left.  (system tray are icons of applications like firefox, tbird, files, etc?)
[17:00] <bekks> I'd use dhcpd, and not dnsmasq
[17:01] <debasis> Hello friends
[17:01] <x0011BF> Hrm, I had some reason for changing from dhcpd.
[17:01] <bekks> x0011BF: which one?
[17:01] <x0011BF> Also, what do you mean "without weird scripts"?
[17:01] <Lizards|Work> "<x0011BF> Oi oi, I got this bash script online to set up a virtual wifi network"
[17:01] <[[thufir]]> oh, this nag app is on the top right too:   http://www.howtogeek.com/119560/how-to-install-and-use-ubuntus-new-web-apps-feature/   weirdness.
[17:01] <x0011BF> Yeah, it needs to run a script to bind it to a tunnel interface.
[17:02] <x0011BF> And the tunnel interface goes up and down and such.
[17:02] <x0011BF> Oh, actually.
[17:02] <mar77i> hmm. so... xorg config is still a problem. apparently the users' settings contain more information about the wireless keyboard than what lightdm manages to configure...
[17:02] <x0011BF> I must not have changed it from DHCPD.
[17:02] <x0011BF> http://nims11.wordpress.com/2013/05/22/using-hostapd-with-dnsmasq-to-create-virtual-wifi-access-point-in-linux/
[17:03] <debasis> Today I have downloaded MySql 5.6 from MySql site, and i got a the software package, but i dont know how to install it, please help me.
[17:03] <x0011BF> I must have gotten it from this nearly identical script using DNSMASQ.
[17:03] <bekks> debasis: did you get a .deb for Ubuntu?
[17:03] <Lizards|Work> debasis, is it a .tar.gz?
[17:03] <[[thufir]]> x0011BF: if you're having trouble with wifi, I suggest the iogear adapter.  There's literally **no** driver, it's just ethernet cable.
[17:03] <x0011BF> [[thufir]]: I'm not having trouble with wifi.
[17:04] <x0011BF> I have an unorthodox configuration where I'm running a wifi hotspot from a virtual machine.
[17:04] <debasis> yes, its a tar file
[17:04] <x0011BF> Over a VPN.
[17:04] <x0011BF> It actually works totally fine.
[17:05] <Lizards|Work> debasis, easiest thing to do is to install it via apt-get or download a deb
[17:05] <Lizards|Work> otherwise you're compiling from source most likely
[17:05] <x0011BF> The only problem is that if the tunnel interface goes down, the script needs to be run again.
[17:05] <x0011BF> And I think it's leaving something running that causes a conflict when I try to run it again.
[17:05] <actionparsnip> debasis: is there not a PPA?
[17:05] <debasis> Lizards|work:- But the MySql site is not giving any deb
[17:06] <Lizards|Work> so the other two options: install via apt-get or compile from source
[17:06] <debasis> MySQL-client-5.6.15-1.linux_glibc2.5.i386.rpm..........This is the file name
[17:06] <Lizards|Work> rpm is a fedora/centos/redhat file
[17:07] <Lizards|Work> you could install that with alien, but compatibility issues are gonna be fun to troubleshoot later
[17:07] <designbybeck> I tried to put a bunch of fonts in my /usr/share/fonts folder and I think it messed up some system fonts
[17:07] <debasis> then what file i have to download for this Ubuntu?
[17:07] <CAP8504> buenas tardes
[17:07] <designbybeck> In the termnial with default fonts selected I have all littls Boxes as the fonts
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> debasis  use tasksel (task select)
[17:08] <Pici> designbybeck: What release of Ubuntu are you running now? Do you need 5.6 or is 5.5 okay?
[17:08] <Pici> debasis: What release of Ubuntu are you running now? Do you need 5.6 or is 5.5 okay?
[17:08] <debasis> monkeyDust:- whats it?
[17:08] <designbybeck> ubuntu 13.10 64bit Pici
[17:08] <Pici> designbybeck: sorry, I mistabbed :/
[17:08] <MonkeyDust> debasis  you can install mysql with it
[17:08] <debasis> I need 5.6 or 5.5...no problem...i just wanna learn
[17:09] <OerHeks> !find MySQL-client
[17:09] <debasis> pici:- Can u help me?
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> debasis  need or want?
[17:09] <Pici> debasis: Then just sudo apt-get install mysql-server-5.5
[17:09] <yash069> anybody can help with apache mod_rewrite question ?
[17:10] <yash069> does the redirect sends referer in header ?
[17:10] <debasis> pici:- have u install mysql?
[17:10] <Pici> yash069: Thats probably a better question for #httpd
[17:10] <Pici> debasis: Yes, many times.  The command I just gave you will install it.
[17:10] <debasis> can that command will install 5.6 also?
[17:10] <yash069> Pici: okay thanks, i'll try there
[17:11] <Pici> debasis: no, 5.6 is not available in our repositories.
[17:11] <_victor_> buenas tardes
[17:11] <debasis> pici:- ok ok dear, thanks a lot, im trying, if any problem, i will contact u
[17:11] <actionparsnip> debasis: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=mysql%2Dserver%2D5.6
[17:11] <Pici> debasis: Just ask here if there is a problem, I may not be available.
[17:11] <Pici> actionparsnip: I don't think a PPA is really needed in this situation....
[17:12] <debasis> pici:-ok
[17:12] <actionparsnip> just another option :)
[17:12] <designbybeck> Here is what my default fonts look like in Terminal now. I tried to do a bulk install of some fonts into /usr/share/fonts And it messed up stuff: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=64678
[17:13] <actionparsnip> designbybeck: have you tried other fonts?
[17:14] <designbybeck> yes actionparsnip if I switch it other fonts work
[17:14] <debasis> pici:- im getting the following error, please help
[17:14] <designbybeck> But the shutdown screen is all Squares as well actionparsnip
[17:14] <debasis> pici:-     E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[17:14] <debasis> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[17:14] <actionparsnip> designbybeck: then the fonts are either corrupt or non-standard
[17:14] <actionparsnip> debasis: is software centre open, or are updates installing?
[17:14] <Pici> debasis: Do you have another package management tool open? like the software center?
[17:14] <designbybeck> these should have been fonts I just copied from the last distro when I backed it up and moved them over :/
[17:14] <actionparsnip> debasis: or is apt-get running?
[17:15] <debasis> no
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> debasis  if you don't know what it, then you shouldnt try to install something from outside the repos
[17:15] <jhutchins> debasis: First obvious question: are you using sudo?
[17:15] <actionparsnip> debasis: reboot to be sure, if it's still bad, head back and we can give a command
[17:15] <designbybeck> I'm not sure which fonts to remove and what to keep actionparsnip
[17:15] <debasis> ok, im rebooting
[17:15] <glitsj16> designbybeck: did you refresh your font caches after dropping files into /usr/share/fonts ?
[17:16] <designbybeck> glitsj16, I dont' think so. I've restarted a few times
[17:16] <jhutchins> Hm, wonder if this is still valid...
[17:16] <jhutchins> !adept crash fix
[17:16] <glitsj16> designbybeck: not sure if it will help, but you can try   sudo fc-cache -f -v
[17:17] <designbybeck> glitsj16, what does that do?
[17:17] <designbybeck> glitsj16,  doesn't seem to have fixed it
[17:18] <glitsj16> designbybeck: it rebuilds all your font caches, nothing is removed or added etc
[17:19] <glitsj16> designbybeck: might need to close/re-open your terminal, not sure
[17:19] <designbybeck> the shutdown dialog and some fonts in the HUD are still messed up glitsj16
[17:20] <actionparsnip> designbybeck: could log off and on again
[17:20] <OerHeks> might need to logout/login after the font chacke action
[17:20] <OerHeks> chacke=cache
[17:21] <glitsj16> designbybeck: tried temporarily renaming ~/.fontconfig yet?
[17:22] <fra> ciao a tutti
[17:23] <debasis> pici:- r u there?
[17:24] <designbybeck> can someone show me the default fonts that should be in /usr/share/fonts ?
[17:25] <darkblue_b> designbybeck: yes I will look on a VM here
[17:25] <debasis> pici:- r u there?
[17:25] <debasis> Hello friends, i need some help
[17:25] <actionparsnip> debasis: did the reboot help?
[17:26] <debasis> actionparsnip:- yes fried
[17:26] <debasis> friend**
[17:26] <actionparsnip> debasis: sweet
[17:26] <designbybeck> thank you darkblue_b
[17:27] <debasis> actionparsnip:- bro, thanks
[17:27] <actionparsnip> debasis: easy days :)
[17:27] <debasis> actionparsnip:-Another thing, in my ubuntu, the icons are comming in left side in a bar
[17:27] <debasis> actionparsnip:-can i take that bar to down?
[17:28] <debasis> actionparsnip:- u there?
[17:29] <darkblue_b> designbybeck: http://paste.debian.net/73324/
[17:29] <vfw> designbybeck: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fonts
[17:29] <darkblue_b> .. that is XUbuntu 12.04
[17:29] <whatisthematrix> debasis: he left... he'll probably be back
[17:29] <sushi_> hey
 can u please help me?
[17:29] <whatisthematrix> debasis: you mean the whole menu bar?
[17:29] <sushi_> what's up
[17:29] <debasis> yes
[17:29] <OerHeks> debasis, there is no tweak to move the unity panel AFAIK
[17:29] <darkblue_b> oh - that font list is interesting.. I have a little black book on my shelf.. about fonts.. btw
[17:29] <designbybeck> thanks darkblue_b  and vfw this might take a while
[17:30] <debasis> ok
[17:30] <sushi_> what's the command to see the different channels?
[17:30] <debasis> but, when im running any program, like a browser, that bar is not getting hide
[17:30] <debasis> Its always be in front
[17:31] <OerHeks> debasis, there is unity-tweak, to do those settings and more
[17:31] <designbybeck> Do we think it might be an owners right issue? Like maybe root owns the fonts?
[17:31] <whatisthematrix> debasis: there's a setting where you can set it to auto-hide, so it slides to the left and is hidden, until you put your mouse cursor over there. then it will re-appear
[17:31] <vfw> designbybeck: You might be a candidate for a different DE
[17:31] <debasis> ok..please tell me that
[17:32] <designbybeck> why vfw ? This was a clean install I was just tryingt o bulk install some of my fonts and this happened
[17:32] <vfw> designbybeck: What are you trying to do?
[17:32] <whatisthematrix> debasis: ok, on the menu bar is a settings iconn, or maybe it's called system settings. click on it. then click on the 'appearance' option icon in there
[17:33] <designbybeck> vfw,  was just trying to bulk install fonts to my system so I didn't have to do them one at a time
[17:33] <vfw> designbybeck: Yes, they are owned by root.
[17:33] <designbybeck> and I guess soemthing over wrote a default font vfw
[17:33] <darkblue_b> hehe - I did that .. 10,000 fonts and one bad one.. crashed the font util
 yes i did
[17:33] <whatisthematrix> debasis: when you are in the appearance seetings, there's tabs at the top. click on the right-hand tab
 then?
[17:33] <darkblue_b> I tracked it down and removed the font..
[17:33] <whatisthematrix> debasis: when you are in the appearance settings*, there's tabs at the top. click on the right-hand tab
[17:34] <vfw> designbybeck: Anything you install system-wide requires admin priviledges.
[17:34] <glitsj16> designbybeck: it would be helpfull if you showed us what command you exactly used when dropping those fonts in
[17:34] <darkblue_b> .. by single stepping through the OpenSource(tm) python font util
[17:34] <whatisthematrix> then click the auto-hide menu bar option to auto-hide
 yes
[17:34] <whatisthematrix> then click the auto-hide menu bar option to yes*
[17:34] <whatisthematrix> debasis: that got it?
[17:35] <whatisthematrix> debasis: done?
 the tab name is behaviour?
[17:35] <whatisthematrix> debasis: yes. sorry, i'm in kde right now
[17:35] <vfw> !fonts | designbybeck
[17:35] <debasis> ok
[17:35] <morgana_> !list
[17:36] <debasis> got it bro
 thanks
[17:36] <whatisthematrix> debasis: you're welcome
  but when im moving cursor on it, its not again comming
[17:37] <whatisthematrix> debasis: it should, i don't know why it wouldn't
[17:37] <debasis> ok
[17:38] <whatisthematrix> debasis: left-click on the desktop and try again
[17:38] <tiina> hi how can I repair in my ubuntu this:E: Kunde inte skriva till /var/cache/apt/
[17:38] <tiina> E: Kunde inte tolka eller öppna pakelistorna eller tillståndsfilen.
[17:38] <tiina> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[17:38] <tiina> W: Använder inte låsning för skrivskyddade låsfilen /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[17:38] <darkblue_b> "Debian Fonts Task Force" hehe
[17:38] <bekks> darkblue_b: One man show? :P
[17:41] <morgana_> !list
[17:41] <OerHeks> !adept
[17:42] <OerHeks> no morgana, no warez here :-D
  im sorry bro, not getting it
[17:42] <OerHeks> !adept crash fix
[17:42] <whatisthematrix> debasis: not sure i know how to help much more than i have. someone else might know. describe the problem to the channel
  ok thanks a lot, no problem
  actually that icon bar is not a problem
[17:43] <whatisthematrix> debasis: and i have to go. i have work to get to doing. you're welcome. good luck!
 the problem is, when im opening any application, that application is not comming in full screen due to that bar
[17:44] <bekks> After installing lubuntu-desktop along with ubuntu-desktop, how can I change the the splash screen at booting to "Ubuntu" again, instead of "Lubuntu"?
[17:44] <debasis> please help
[17:45] <Lizards|Work> which bar? the unity launcher?
[17:45] <bekks> Lizards|Work: Yes.
[17:46] <darkblue_b> hey all - one file is destroyed on my system here.. it shows question marks for perms and owner:group.. what to do ?   '/var/lib/lightdm/.gvfs'
[17:46] <Lizards|Work> System Settings -> Appearance -> Behavior (it's a tab) -> Auto-hide the launcher
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> bekks  try this line    sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth
[17:46] <debasis> After opening any application, for example a browser or the terminal, its not comming in full screen bcoz some space is taken by the icon bar at the left side
[17:46] <Lizards|Work> debasis, System Settings -> Appearance -> Behavior (it's a tab) -> Auto-hide the launcher
 once i did that, but again the luncher is not comming
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> debasis  press F11
[17:47] <Lizards|Work> i don't even
 really ubuntu is so problematic
[17:48] <Lizards|Work> not really
[17:48] <debasis> :(
[17:49] <debasis> ok, not i may think for windows again to install, bcoz i am facing a lot of problem here
[17:49] <bekks> debasis: If your app doesnt "fullscreen" but respects the launcher at the left, then that is just maxing out the available area, and not full screen. Thats a application issue, not an Ubuntu issue.
[17:49] <MonkeyDust> debasis  what kind of problems?
[17:49] <debasis> i am very new in ubuntu
[17:50] <Lizards|Work> which ubuntu?
[17:50] <Lizards|Work> 13.04, 12.10, 12.04?
[17:50] <Lizards|Work> unity's still evolving
[17:50] <debasis> 12.04 LTS
[17:50] <darkblue_b> no idea what to do about this blasted file?
[17:50] <Lizards|Work> your problem is with your old old old old old unity
[17:50] <Lizards|Work> darkblue_b, gvfs is dark magic
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> debasis  learning something new can be hard, like you once had to learn computer systems
[17:50] <darkblue_b> :-(
[17:51] <darkblue_b> I wonder if I can restore from a backup
[17:51] <debasis> So facing lots of problem in installing software, lots of command need to be known here, in windows, just double click and finish ur work
[17:51] <Lizards|Work> lol
[17:51] <Lizards|Work> closed source
[17:51] <Lizards|Work> nothing to learn
[17:51] <darkblue_b> debasis: every system has its strengths and weakness
[17:51] <imghost> !manual | debasis
[17:51] <Lizards|Work> it's all either set up to run or it will never run
[17:51] <xangua> debasis: in ubuntu you just open Software Center and install what you need from there
[17:52] <debasis> I am really very interested in Ubuntu, but dont know why getting frustrated
[17:53] <Lizards|Work> linux administration isn't everybody's cup of tea
[17:53] <DarthEaron> hi, i am trying to get touchegg to work with 3 finger guestures. right now it only reads two finger drags, it does not see taps, pinches or ratations. i know my touchpad is capable of it because it worked in windows and synclient -m 100 shows that i can use 3 fingers. geistest however says my touchpad is only a two touch capable touchpad. im running ubuntu 12.04 with all updates, im using xfce4 if thats relavent.
[17:54] <arun__> guys, which kernel is the best?
[17:54] <kostkon> !manual | debasis
[17:54] <imghost> Debasis,read the manual,try to proceed slowly its just you are not  familiar with linux
[17:54] <[[thufir]]> anyone know the automated software to test postfix?  it automates "telnet localhost 25" etc?
[17:55] <imghost> !best | arun__
[17:55] <DarthEaron> [[thufir]]: if you just want to telnet yourself at vertian times, you could use crontab
[17:55] <debasis> Yes, im not familiar with Linux/unix
[17:56] <debasis> where to get the ubuntu manual?
[17:56] <MonkeyDust> debasis  just double click and work, cybercriminals know that too
[17:56] <kostkon> debasis, http://ubuntu-manual.org/
[17:56] <Lizards|Work> i find that using man-pages and apropos, i can solve many tasks without google [ debasis ]
[17:56] <debasis> ok
[17:57] <DarthEaron> does anyone have any comment towards my question?
[17:57] <[[thufir]]> DarthEaron: yeah, I was looking for some program I ran once which does it in a nice way.
 what do u mean to say?
[17:57] <DarthEaron> [[thufir]]: are you talking about touchegg or crontab?
[17:58] <MonkeyDust> debasis  easy access for you, means also easy access for criminals
[17:58] <imghost> Debasis read his post again :D
[17:59] <[[thufir]]> maybe touchegg  but I don't think so.  it's not a cron thing, it just makes it easier than typing in all the telnet commands.  it's in apt-cache, but there are ten million results for e-mail and smtp.
[17:59] <debasis> Ohh, u people are making fun on me, ok fine.I dont know and trying to take help from u.it doesnt mean that u will laugh
[17:59] <DarthEaron> [[thufir]]: okay wait, so what is it your actually trying to achive?
[18:00] <Lizards|Work> debasis, i'm not. i'm trying to help you find the builtin tools
[18:00] <imghost> Debasis, nop we are not
[18:00] <[[thufir]]> "telnet localhost 25"  but it's a program which does the whole thing for you in one command.  I've used it before, but can't find the name of the software to install.
[18:00] <Lizards|Work> don't know which utility to use? `apropos [task]` where [task] is what you want to do, or a keyword
[18:00] <[[thufir]]> DarthEaron: to test postfix.  not a cron thing.
[18:01] <Lizards|Work> don't know how to use the utility? `man [utility]` where [utility] is what came up in apropos
[18:01] <[[thufir]]> Lizards|Work: it's not a utility.
[18:01] <jebs> hello there! Any of you met the problem of installing Dropbox and getting this error: "Nautilus-Share-Message: Called "net usershare info" but it failed: 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error No such file or directory Please ask your system administrator to enable user sharing." ?
[18:01] <debasis> ok fine, if u people are doing so, then i will think u dont know how to help
[18:01] <Lizards|Work> lots of things are utilities
[18:01] <DarthEaron> jebs: have you punched that into google?
[18:01] <[[thufir]]> ok....what's the name of the utility to apropos on?  it's not telnet...
[18:02] <Lizards|Work> lol
[18:02] <Lizards|Work> apropos schedule
[18:02] <Lizards|Work> apropos chron
[18:02] <jebs> (ok DarthEaron, you're right, but i don't know why my internet connection is extremly slow... )
[18:02] <[[thufir]]> Lizards|Work: nope, I'm not trying to use cron
[18:02] <centran> anyone know of any central cron managment software?
[18:02] <Lizards|Work> you want to do something, periodically?
[18:02] <Myrtti> debasis: what kind of responses were you expecting then?
[18:03] <Lizards|Work> man anacron
[18:03] <[[thufir]]> Lizards|Work: nope.  I want to 'telnet locahost 25' etc to test postfix.  there's program to do that, but I can't find it in apt-cache, there are ten million results.
[18:03] <jebs> @DarthEaron: actually i've punched it in google but the connection was to slow to get the answer
[18:03] <Lizards|Work> why don't you use telnet from the command-line then?
[18:03] <Lizards|Work> if you only have to use telnet once
[18:04] <[[thufir]]> Lizards|Work: there's a program which does it nicely for you, I'm just trying to remember the name.  I can't find it in google. oh well.
[18:04] <Lizards|Work> does it nicely?
 They should know that, if someone is asking and if someone already told that he is new in linux, then if they will laugh and make fun, will u appreciate it?
[18:04] <intrader> Anyone, is there a forum more specific to mysql questions like how to stop mysql?
[18:04] <Lizards|Work> i would thing if you've spent this much time looking for a solution you could've done it manually hundreds of times
[18:04] <Myrtti> debasis: I didn't see anyone laughing and making fun, I saw people giving you links to stuff they thought would be helpful
[18:04] <DarthEaron> jebs: That message is not a Dropbox message but a Nautilus message
[18:05] <debasis> Its better, i dont need any help, and i will try my owm, thanks for ur help
[18:05] <[[thufir]]> Lizards|Work: it does it easily.  I don't need or want a cron job, but I will do it several times.  yes, I could script -- but someone's already done that and it can be installed from apt-get.
[18:05] <Myrtti> debasis: if those links and commands they suggested weren't what you were expecting, then I'd really want to know what kind of responses you were expecting instead
[18:05] <mark_953> hahahaha <<<<now thats laughing!
[18:05] <DarthEaron> jebs: this is what came up first after quick google. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1986232, next time try there first. its usually faster.
 i asked for ubuntu manual
[18:06] <debasis> if u can help, then please
[18:06] <Myrtti> debasis: and you were given a link to a website, was that not what you wanted?
[18:06] <debasis> dont ask about anyone, plz
[18:07] <Myrtti> debasis: http://ubuntu-manual.org/ <-- what's wrong with this?
[18:07] <debasis> it was a manual for 13.02
[18:07] <[[thufir]]> debasis: what's the actual problem.  people are willing to help you, but, don't take this the wrong way, there are trolls who come on this channel just to wind people up.  how can I/we help you right now?
[18:07] <Lizards|Work> debasis, http://ubuntu-manual.org/download/12.04e2/en_US/screen
 i have never asked u to help
[18:08] <[[thufir]]> debasis: it helps if you say "I see on page three of the manual..." and ask a specific question.
[18:08]  * [[thufir]] gives up
 thanks bro
[18:08] <demophobia> cool, thanks, Lizards|Work, that will help me also, i think.
[18:09] <jebs> DarthEaron: ok. I had the same opened, but as I said, my internet was slow and it didn't seem the solution although it is writtent [SOLVED]. thanks! i'll try that again with more attention.
[18:09] <Lizards|Work> you probably needed to be more specific about wanting a manual for 12.04
sorry bro
 i am admitting my mistake
[18:10] <Lizards|Work> no worries
[18:10] <Lizards|Work> it was on that page though
[18:10] <Lizards|Work> i understand it defaults to the newest version, but the old versions are there too
[18:10] <kostkon> debasis, you can select the ubuntu version on the download page
[18:10] <debasis> ok
[18:10] <debasis> i see
[18:10] <debasis> kostkon:- ok
[18:11] <debasis> This is my request for here my all friends, please forgive me who ever angry on me
[18:12] <intrader> Anyone, what I find in "2.12.1.2. Starting and Stopping MySQL Automatically" in http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/automatic-start.html (shell mysql.server stop) gets into a subshell of mysql that I don't know how to stop excep via CTRL-C
[18:13] <kostkon> debasis, no worries
[18:14] <[[a]> hello
[18:14] <kostkon> [[a], hi
[18:15] <debasis_> can i got the mysql dev file?
[18:16] <foxx> what?!
[18:16] <bekks> debasis_: What is "the mysql dev file"?
[18:17] <debasis_> means, like windows is providing softwares in .exe file, so just double clicking on it, they gets installed
[18:17] <rcw2> when i go to grooveshark.com on konq and click sign in it downloads a file and doesn't allow me to sign in.   any thoughts on why?
[18:17] <bekks> debasis_: How is that related to whatever "the mysql dev file" might be?
[18:17] <debasis_> is there any mysql software available for ubuntu like that?
[18:18] <bekks> debasis_: sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[18:18] <debasis_> i know this
[18:18] <bekks> debasis_: thats how you install mysql server software on Ubuntu.
[18:18] <gvo> debasis_: If you double click on a .deb file you will be given an option to install it.
[18:19] <imghost> !mysql-server | debasis_
[18:19] <gvo> But you'd have to download it first, the apt-be does both.
[18:19] <debasis_> gvo:-yes... im telling the same
[18:19] <gvo> apt-get
[18:19] <bekks> debasis_: If you know that - what is your actual question?
[18:19] <adminewb> hi all, I have some trouble in a recent upgrade from lucid to precise 12.04 32bit i386; it no longer gives access to the USB wireless adapter(RALink based I believe); boot.log shows that it can't find the device for wlan0; what should I look at now? ndiswrapper wasn't required on lucid, to my knowledge
[18:19] <debasis_> gvo:- is there any .dev file for mysql?
[18:19] <Lizards|Work> .deb
[18:19] <bekks> debasis_: What is a ".dev" file?
[18:20] <gvo> ^^^
[18:20] <Lizards|Work> http://google.com#q=mysql+.deb
[18:20] <imghost> Debasis_ dev ??
[18:20] <bekks> debasis_: Install the mysql server software as you have just been told.
[18:20] <[[thufir]]> well, I found that little utility to automate telnet test for smtp.  it's called swaks.  anyhow.
[18:20] <debasis_> sorry, its .deb
[18:20] <bekks> debasis_: Do not install random .deb files, but use the package management system.
[18:20] <debasis_> why, whats the problem?
[18:21] <gvo> Yes there is a .deb file for many flavors of mysql but as beks says, don't bother.
[18:21] <Lizards|Work> do you trust strangers compiling things for you debasis_?
[18:21] <bekks> debasis_: You will break your system. If that is not a problem for you, keep installing software as you like.
[18:21] <mark_953> wont it go to the software center once he selects the .deb?
[18:21] <intrader> dbasis, which version of ubuntu are you on?
[18:21] <hexacode> anyone know an anti port abuse utility , easy to use...not iptables mind you..i want something to sit on port 22 and if too many failed attempts happen, it locks out the ip address, or locks down the port for a period of time that gradually increases with abuse?
[18:21] <debasis_> no no, ur right
[18:21] <heavyammo> I am trying to follow this PGP tutorial but I am running Xubuntu not Ubuntu, could someone tell me the actual name of the program that I need? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1146081
[18:21] <DarthEaron> question, how do i see what driver is begin used to manage my touchpad, Im trying to find out why synclient can see 3 fingers,but geistest cannot.
[18:21] <debasis_> i should not
[18:21] <bekks> debasis_: Or, do as you have been told multiple times already: sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[18:21] <imghost> Debasis_ you will find everything in the official repi
[18:21] <imghost> Repo
[18:22] <Lizards|Work> ctrl + alt + t
[18:22] <Lizards|Work> to get a terminal
[18:22] <debasis_> means in the ubuntu software center
[18:22] <debasis_> is it?
[18:22] <bekks> debasis_: yes.
[18:22] <debasis_> ok fine
[18:22] <trijntje> heavyammo: seahorse
[18:22] <adminewb> are there other logs I should be looking at?
[18:22] <intrader> debasis, please answer to the list by prepending the name of the member and following by :
[18:23] <debasis_> intrader:- sorry, i will do that
[18:23] <heavyammo> trijntje, <3
[18:23] <intrader> debasis_, please answer to the list by prepending the name of the member and following by :
[18:24] <Speiros> Can someone direct me to a page that leads me to be able to open my gmail account on my thunderbird please.
[18:24] <intrader> debasis_, good job - I like to know which version of ubuntu are you on
[18:24] <Lizards|Work> http://google.com#q=thunderbird+gmail
[18:24] <Speiros> It is in pop3 and I don't want it to be, I don't think
[18:24] <Speiros> Thanks Lizards|Work
[18:24] <debasis_> intrader: its 12.04 LTS
[18:25] <kelvinella> hello
[18:25] <trijntje> Lizards|Work: telling people to look stuf up on google is not helping
[18:25] <trijntje> !lmgtfy
[18:25] <mark_953> Speiros:  lamessaging.com/en-US/kb/thunderbird-and-gmail
[18:26] <bekks> trijntje: As long as it isnt an Ubuntu support issue, it is a good idea to tell them how to get the information wanted.
[18:26] <Speiros> Thanks mark_953
[18:26] <imghost> +1 bekks
[18:28] <intrader> debasis_, thanks, on 12.04 LTS mysql is installed by default - to see if it is running `ps aux| grep sql` (enter the command in a terminal) or issue sudo service mysql status
[18:28] <bekks> intrader: the mysql server inst installed by default on 12.04
[18:29] <intrader> bekks, I was told that last night on this list
[18:29] <bekks> intrader: On the server version, maybe. On a desktop, it isnt installed by default.
[18:29] <debasis_> intrader:- its showing un recognize service
[18:29] <adminewb> how can i tell in detail what happened with the loading of device drivers, including the USB wireless adapter?
[18:29] <bekks> debasis_: Then install it as you have been told multiple times now.
[18:30] <debasis_> bekks:- Are u angry on me?
[18:30] <intrader> debasis_, what do you get when you issue `sudo service mysql status` on the terminal?
[18:30] <Lizards|Work> adminewb, at some point ubuntu switched to a networking daemon
[18:30] <bekks> debasis_: No. I just dont get the point why you are procastinating from your actual issue "how do I install a mysql server on ubuntu".
[18:31] <debasis_> intrader:-unrecognized service
[18:31] <adminewb> Lizards|Work thanks, where do such daemons log?
[18:31] <intrader> debasis_, bekks is not mad at you, he is helping
[18:31] <Lizards|Work> i'm looking for what i did to solve the issue adminewb
[18:32] <Lizards|Work> adminewb, which version are you on now? 12.04?
[18:32] <intrader> debasis_, what about to command `ps aux | grep sql`
[18:32] <adminewb> yes 12.04 LTS
[18:32] <debasis_> intrader:- then he should talk like u, but its just something els
[18:32] <imghost> !attitude | debasis_
[18:32] <ikonia> debasis_: you've been told how to install mysql - install it and ask any follow up questions
[18:32] <Lizards|Work> adminewb, http://askubuntu.com/a/325055
[18:33] <ikonia> debasis_: rather than telling a story that no-one is really interested in or trying to pick fault with the guy that's actually given you the correct answer
[18:33] <adminewb> thanks much Lizards|Work
[18:33] <Lizards|Work> i'm pretty sure that's where i had to start
[18:33] <Lizards|Work> broadcom drivers/kernel modules
[18:33] <bekks> debasis_: Well ok - do what you want, I wont help you anymore, since you dont want to listen. Good luck, maybe someone else is going to help you.
[18:34] <debasis_> ok ok, sorry guys.Its better im now from here.U people are very disturbed bcoz of me
[18:34] <debasis_> im leaving
[18:34] <debasis_> sorry, if i hury u
[18:34] <debasis_> hurt u**
[18:34] <houkouonchi-home> anyone here knowledgeable about ubuntu networking init scripts and what might cause the TERM signal to be sent?
[18:34] <Speiros> Thanks once again to both Lizards|Work and mark_953.  Worked just fine.
[18:35] <streamer> I run a file from ssh, how do I make it a startup job? I have to launch it in the terminal by ./sc_trans sc_trans_mrs.conf , how do i make it to run as a daemon?
[18:35] <ikonia> houkouonchi-home: term to what ?
[18:35] <ikonia> !upstart | streamer
[18:35] <houkouonchi-home> ikanobori: TERM sent to network-interface eth0 pre-start process
[18:35] <mark_953> Speiros:  no problem sir!
[18:35] <streamer> thanks, will look into it :)
[18:36] <houkouonchi-home> ikanobori: periodically seeing machines that come up with no eth0 configured... doing ifup eth0 brings them up or rebooting brings them up as well
[18:36] <houkouonchi-home> ikanobori: http://pastebin.com/uUwSQW0Y
[18:36] <ikonia> houkouonchi-home: is it static or dynamic configuration
[18:36] <houkouonchi-home> static
[18:36] <ikonia> houkouonchi-home: ok, so that isn't going to be a termination
[18:36] <ikonia> houkouonchi-home: I suspect thats the device not being available at configuratin time
[18:37] <houkouonchi-home> ikonia: well according to the dmesg output its seeing the ethernet device about a second before the init script is being killed, no different from when the machine boots with eth0
[18:37] <ikonia> houkouonchi-home: your paste backs that up
[18:37] <intrader> bekks, from https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCsQFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fhelp.ubuntu.com%2Flts%2Fserverguide%2Fmysql.html&ei=K73BUs_KDcrroATUioCgAg&usg=AFQjCNFeQe-XKccybpe_lF-uOlg8B-35qg&bvm=bv.58187178,d.cGU :'As of Ubuntu 12.04, MySQL 5.5 is installed by default.'
[18:37] <ikonia> houkouonchi-home: it looks like there are problems (potential problems) bringing the interface online in the OS for configuration
[18:38] <bekks> intrader: You are looking at the _server_ guide :P
[18:39] <imghost> Bekks, +1
[18:39] <houkouonchi-home> ikonia: well I was wondering if maybe it has something to do with iscsi transport class? it seems like its loading that one almost at the same time as the others but then it bitches about not being able to wait and in that output I see it loaded later before?
[18:40] <ikonia> houkouonchi-home: not from what I'm reading, but I could be wrong
[18:40] <houkouonchi-home> ikonia: could you point out to me on which line number you think the potential problem is happening?
[18:40] <intrader> bekks, no, I just asked the question in google:is mysql installed on ubuntu 12.04 by default?
[18:41] <ikonia> houkouonchi-home: I don't see it as a "line number" there is nothing conclusive in there
[18:41] <imghost> Intrader, lts/serverguide/mysql.html
[18:41] <houkouonchi-home> ikonia: ok well I was going by you saying the output seemed to suggest what you were saying
[18:41] <ikonia> houkouonchi-home: 27.472946] bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: using MSIX
[18:41] <ikonia> [   27.473039] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
[18:41] <ikonia> houkouonchi-home: if you look there - it can't bring up the card and that's before configuration
[18:41] <houkouonchi-home> ikonia: well it does that same thing when it comes up just fine too though
[18:42] <adminewb> Lizards|Work downloaded the firmware .deb file, now I'll try out their advice; crossed fingers
[18:42] <ryoungs66> If I was making a program for both ubuntu and windows, what would be the easiest language to write it in?
[18:42] <bekks> intrader: And you got the _server_ guide as a result.
[18:42] <bekks> intrader: We can move on now.
[18:42] <imghost> Intrader, by default on 12.04lts server edition not desktop :)
[18:45] <Burrito> Anyone know a way of faking keyboard input through Python, without using XTest or anything that uses XTest to accomplish it? Every time I try something that uses XTest, I run into the same bug at some point.
[18:45] <intrader> bekks, imghost: thanks - as to my question, where do I find info on how to stop mysql. http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/automatic-start.html tells me to issue mysql.server stop in a shell.
[18:47] <bekks> intrader: service mysql start/stop
[18:47] <bekks> intrader: Stick to the serverguide you just referred :)
[18:49] <intrader> bekks, it shows that 'mysql stop/waiting'
[18:49] <houkouonchi-home> ikonia: http://askubuntu.com/questions/382354/double-interfaces-problem <-- guy with the exact same problem
[18:50] <bekks> intrader: Then wait a few and run service mysql status
[18:50] <intrader> bekks, Ok, I will wait
[18:50] <Lizards|Work> houkouonchi-home, that's a bit like http://xkcd.com/979/
[18:51] <adminewb> Lizards|Work just noticed the module they refer to is for Broadcom devices; mine is an RAlink rt2870; I vaguely recall that rt2800usb is a related module but probably not the only required one; any other thoughts?
[18:51] <houkouonchi-home> Lizards|Work: hahaha yea
[18:51] <Lizards|Work> i've not much idea, i just know that everything went wonky at some point and i was troubleshooting it til i did that
[18:51] <imghost> Intrader, or do this service mysql stop then sudo service mysql restart
[18:52] <bekks> imghost: either stop/start or restart. :)
[18:52] <imghost> Bekks, yes sir
[18:53] <intrader> bekks, imghost , not it is running as process 4100
[18:54] <intrader> bekks, imghost , ... the sudo service mysql restart did that
[18:54] <bekks> intrader: Expected - and?
[18:54] <imghost> Intrader, so what now?
[18:55] <intrader> bekks, imghost , I want it stopped so that nobody can access via dyndns into my home network
[18:55] <solitood> hi, quick question... i have a new toshiba satellite touch screen win8 laptop. does anyone know if installing ubuntu (i typically use wubi) will be more complicated due to the windows8 touch laptop ... id rahter not use wubi so i can make its own partition but after glancing through some forums i'v read that people have trouble installing ubuntu on a win8box
[18:55] <bekks> intrader: Then _stop_ it, instead of _restart_ing it...
[18:55] <imghost> Intrader,sudo service mysql stop simple :)
[18:56] <OerHeks> solitood, wubi does not work on win8, so you are lucky
[18:56] <llutz> intrader: don't bind it to a network-interface if you don't want it being accessible or just remove it completly if you don't want it running at all
[18:56] <Lizards|Work> yeah there's no wubi for 13.X
[18:56] <intrader> bekks, imghost , back to interminable 'mysql stop/waiting'
[18:57] <OerHeks> solitood, if you do not want to touch your filesystem, use virtuabox, but there is an UEFI manual
[18:57] <OerHeks> !uefi
[18:57] <solitood> okay well, i dont have any blank dvds' and the ubuntu iso is 708mb, wont fit on my blnk cds
[18:57] <bekks> intrader: And? Then wait a few and check wether it is still running.
[18:57] <Lizards|Work> solitood, they moved away from the 700MB requirement
[18:57] <intrader> bekks, imghost , and now 'stop: Unknown instance'
[18:57] <solitood> yeah i noticed
[18:57] <imghost> Intrader, close the terminal and lets close this topic
[18:57] <solitood> im not very good with technical stuff, hence why i use ubuntu
[18:58] <Lizards|Work> make a bootable USB?
[18:58] <solitood> i dont have a usb, nor money
[18:58] <Lizards|Work> with startup disk creator
[18:58] <Lizards|Work> ah
[18:58] <Lizards|Work> i understand that
[18:58] <solitood> i just have a few blanks
[18:58] <Lizards|Work> maybe a network install?
[18:59] <OerHeks> !mini
[18:59] <solitood> but if theres a smaller version of ubuntu tht i can install and upgrade online , without having trouble instlling it (i read people hving to disable BIOS and shit cuz of win8 when trying to instll ubuntu and i cant risk fucking up this laptop)
[18:59] <Lizards|Work> solitood, UEFI is not something you're going to easily dodge
[18:59] <solitood> so i just want a simple reliable ubuntu install that shouldnt hve problems making a partition next to win8
[18:59] <Lizards|Work> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[18:59] <intrader> bekks, imghost , on fresh teminal I issued `sudo service mysql status` and I get 'mysql stop/waiting' -- now what?
[19:00] <bekks> intrader: It is stopped now...
[19:00] <imghost> Intrader, wait
[19:00] <houkouonchi-home> net-install is the only way for me =)
[19:00] <OerHeks> please watc your language, solitood
[19:00] <solitood> ok
[19:01] <Lizards|Work> solitood, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[19:01] <solitood> yeah i dont have a blank dvd or usb so that wont work
[19:01] <solitood> just blank cds
[19:02] <Lizards|Work> they say livedvd because that's what they're all supposed to be, the mini-ubuntu _may_ be able to do this anyway
[19:02] <demophobia> How many internal errors is it normal to experience before one may conclude that there is a bad installation or a hard drive failure?
[19:02] <solitood> i guess i'll give it a shot tomorrow on adderall
[19:02] <imghost> Solitood, good luck
[19:03] <Lizards|Work> demophobia, i get periodic (2, maybe 3 a day) system errors in apport
[19:03] <houkouonchi-home> demom: internal errors? I would look at smart stats of said drive or dmesg output if you suspect bad disk
[19:03] <demophobia> what's apport?
[19:03] <Lizards|Work> and my system is still A-OK
[19:03] <solitood> i just dont want my win8 partition screwed up because this laptop didnt come with any reinstall diks
[19:03] <Lizards|Work> demophobia, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport
[19:03] <Lizards|Work> solitood, that's by design
[19:03] <Merce> Hola
[19:03] <Lizards|Work> they want you to make your own restore images solitood
[19:04] <Merce> Holaaaaaaaaaa
[19:04] <Merce> mee veisss
[19:04] <Merce> Helloooo
[19:04] <demophobia> thanks ... it was rhythmbox that crashed this time
[19:04] <imghost> Solitood, are you familiar with linux mate?because there are problems on installing ubuntu on uefi
[19:04] <demophobia> i've had xorg, rhythmbox, and something else crash on me
[19:04] <solitood> yeah i am but iv never heard of ueifi
[19:04] <Merce> Hello
[19:05] <solitood> iv installed ubuntu more times thn i can count
[19:05] <Lizards|Work> solitood, if it's running windows 8, it's running uefi
[19:05] <solitood> just neer on a win8 box
[19:05] <intrader> bekks, imghost , on fresh terminal I issued `sudo service mysql status` and I get 'mysql stop/waiting'; also `ps aux |grep sql` shows it running
[19:05] <molqr> installed ubuntu on a windows 8 box with uefi .... however grub did not figure out the presence of windows on the system ... strangely though i m able to go to either ubuntu to windows using the F12 firmware boot options menu. do i need grub at all then?
[19:06] <solitood> ugh thats the problem i dont want to have -- installing it and then haaving no bootloader
[19:06] <imghost> Molqr, reinstall grub2 using live cd/usb
[19:07] <imghost> Intrader, do one reboot
[19:08] <molqr> imghost: thanks. but i m really confused about it. if there is option to boot in to either windows or ubuntu (provided by something i do not understand fully) do i need to fix grub anymore?
[19:08] <molqr> this option i guess is provided by UEFI thingy
[19:09] <adminewb> Lizards|Work, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-install-rt2870-chipset-based-usb-wireless-adapter.html
[19:09] <adminewb> this page I found seemingly related to my hardware config (RAlink rt2870 on a USB device); the vendor though has been bought out and all their old models appear quite orphaned :p the driver they offer as download is more than 3yr old! this is probably why I can't get it working, there appears to be no support for kernel v3.x
[19:09] <imghost> Molqr, try to use legacy mode
[19:09] <molqr> imghost: ok.
[19:09] <Lizards|Work> well nuts adminewb, i wish you good luck anyhow =p
[19:10] <adminewb> what thoughts do you have about buying a new wireless USB adaptor, so that I can find a compatible driver?
[19:10] <demophobia> Lizards|Work, i'm not sure what you mean by "in apport" unless you mean that you use apport to submit reports about the crashes
[19:10] <mycomputer> has anyone had sound issues with ubuntu? i get a stutter it's very odd
[19:11] <KaneKaka> I have a Compaq 435 Laptop, and the "F3" key alongside with 'T' and 'Y' stopped working. F3 on my laptop-keyboard was the brightening key, now I can't brighten up my screen. How can I fix this? I bought a USB keyboard but that keyboard's F3 key doesn't brighten up.
[19:11] <SysRq-REISUB> I know Ubuntu did away with the alternate installer for 12.10, but if one is on the 12.04.3 LTS install CD, is there a way to configure and install encrypted partitions?
[19:11] <Lizards|Work> demophobia, yes, apport pops up and tells me 2 to 3 times a day that there's been a system error.
[19:11] <SysRq-REISUB> Or do I need to download and install the 12.04.3 ALT, reburn and try again>
[19:11] <imghost> Molqr, also disable the secure boot, use legacy mode and reinstall grub2 and if you get black screen then just use nomodeset
[19:11] <demophobia> Lizards|Work, are you also using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[19:12] <Lizards|Work> negative
[19:12] <demophobia> what are you using?
[19:12] <Lizards|Work> but it's been this way for as long as i can remember
[19:12] <Lizards|Work> i'm on 13.10 today
[19:12] <demophobia> why is it common for ubuntu to crash so much?
[19:12] <Lizards|Work> it's usually just bug reports
[19:12] <SysRq-REISUB> demophobia, If you're getting those "system error" popups, just disable them. It isn't anything important.
[19:13] <adminewb> Lizards|Work: how should I go about finding a USB wireless adapter that has support for modern kernels?
[19:13] <Lizards|Work> i'd google for linux compatible usb wireles adapters =p
[19:13] <SysRq-REISUB> demophobia, Google "ubuntu disable apport" and you'll find it.
[19:13] <Lizards|Work> adminewb, usually they have a bunch on raspberry pi sites
[19:13] <predrag> quit
[19:14] <adminewb> much obliged
[19:14] <Lizards|Work> my pleasure
[19:15] <SysRq-REISUB> So, does anybody know about encrypted 12.04.3?
[19:15] <MonkeyDust> !encrypt
[19:15] <gordonjcp> SysRq-REISUB: I know it's more trouble than it's worth...
[19:15] <SysRq-REISUB> MonkeyDust, Nothing to do with that. Read the log,.
[19:16] <intrader> Anyone, after reboot I still have 'mysql start/running, process 960'
[19:16] <SysRq-REISUB> gordonjcp, Not for me. Not at all. Trust me. I spent a long time getting Windows Truecrypt and Ubuntu Luks to play nicely using Grub2.
[19:16] <compdoc> mysql tends to always run when its installed
[19:16] <SysRq-REISUB> gordonjcp, But... now I've got a new laptop, and only an LTS CD.
[19:17] <intrader> imghost,after reboot mysql still running
[19:17] <imghost> intrader, so?
[19:17] <SysRq-REISUB> gordonjcp, So I either need to make a CD... while on a CD... or figure out how to make 12.04.3 configure and install LUKS.
[19:18] <intrader> imghost,I am asking, how do I stop it.
[19:18] <Guest8495> Is it unsafe to do home banking with Ubuntu LTS Live CD? I ask because it misses security updates since it was released.
[19:18] <imghost> intrader, sudo service mysql stop
[19:19] <SysRq-REISUB> Guest80022,  If you're on your home network, and its password protected, then you're fine.
[19:19] <gordonjcp> Guest8495: do the updates once it installs?
[19:19] <MonkeyDust> Guest8495  it's safe, even when it's installed
[19:19] <gordonjcp> Guest8495: there aren't really anything that would affect home banking
[19:19] <MonkeyDust> Guest8495  all incoming ports are closed and there's no malware
[19:19] <llutz> intrader:"sudo stop mysql"  then:  echo manual |sudo tee /etc/init/mysql.override
[19:20] <intrader> imghost,we have been here before, after `sudo service mysql stop` I get mysql stop/waiting - for how long
[19:20] <SysRq-REISUB> Guest80022,  Once it hits your router, its secure as usual. The only thing that the OS could have that would be compromised is installed malware, unlikely on a liveCD, or a "man-in-the-middle" attack, which you don't have to worry about if you're home.
[19:20] <imghost> intrader, if you did not use it then  simply remove it my friend
[19:21] <SysRq-REISUB> gordonjcp, I have a query, why do you say it's more trouble than its worth?
[19:21] <intrader> imghost,I don't understant 'if you did not use it'
[19:21] <Apteryx> Hello friends! Does some of you here would happen to know how to trouble shoot bluetooth problems?
[19:21] <Guest8495> gordonjcp: well then why does Ubuntu prompt me with lots of security upgrades, even when it is installed?
[19:21] <gordonjcp> SysRq-REISUB: slow, vastly greater chance of data loss, slow, breaks lots of stuff, slow
[19:22] <SysRq-REISUB> Guest8495, Because security updates are still important! :D
[19:22] <glitsj16> intrader: what is your end goal with mysql? didn't follow your whole thread .. if you want it not to start automatically, just add a one-liner file at /etc/init/mysql.override with the text "manual" in it, like "sudo sh -c "echo 'manual' > /etc/init/mysql.override" .. if you want it to go back to autostarting, just remove that file
[19:22] <gordonjcp> Guest8495: none of those are really likely to affect your online banking
[19:22] <imghost> intrader, mysql server starts automatically
[19:22] <Apteryx> I have a Dell V130 laptop which uses the AR3011 bluetooth controller, and it seems fussy.
[19:22] <intrader> llutz, does not work: stop: Unknown instance:
[19:23] <SysRq-REISUB> gordonjcp, I've never had any of those issues, but that may be due to that I always buy computers that assist in speeding up AES and I've never used any laptop that isn't quad core.
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> Guest8495  i guess those upgrades are for servers, really, not for your home pc
[19:23] <bekks> intrader: Wait a few (seconds) and check ps -ef|grep mysql
[19:23] <Apteryx> It won't detect an Apple Wireless bluetooth keyboard nor an Apple Magic Mouse (bluetooth).
[19:23] <bekks> intrader: I dont get your point until now, honestly.
[19:23] <SysRq-REISUB> gordonjcp, Okay... maybe the data loss... but that was the point. I'd rather it have been lost than in the hands of ... well, those that could use it against me.
[19:23] <llutz> intrader: "pgrep mysql "
[19:24] <Lizards|Work> SysRq-REISUB, i just dont' do anything that needs that much obfuscating ;)
[19:24] <gordonjcp> SysRq-REISUB: no-one cares that much about you
[19:24] <Apteryx> I have tried swapping gnome-bluetooth in favour of blueman but it won't find any devices also
[19:24] <SysRq-REISUB> gordonjcp, And I'd like it to stay that way... which it wouldn't if I slipped up.
[19:25] <bekks> intrader: Did you already read https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/mysql.html ?
[19:25] <gordonjcp> SysRq-REISUB: tinfoil hat
[19:25] <SysRq-REISUB> Lizards|Work, Haha, I can't help it. In my line of work laptops are worth 1% of the data they contain.
[19:25] <Lizards|Work> meh, my tinfoil hat just keeps me from stepping out of line
[19:26] <intrader> llutz, answer to ps ef|grep mysql gives me: intrader  2479  2181  0 11:24 pts/2    00:00:00 grep --color=auto mysql
[19:26] <Lizards|Work> then it's not running
[19:26] <llutz> intrader: thats why you shouldn't use ps...|grep          it will always find the grep process
[19:26] <llutz> intrader: or at least you should learn to read the output
[19:27] <SysRq-REISUB> gordonjcp, Heh, possibly. But I'd rather be paranoid than in jail, or worse... have a compeitor selling my work.
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[19:27] <gordonjcp> SysRq-REISUB: what do you do?
[19:28] <SysRq-REISUB> gordonjcp, Well, offically I'm a quantum-microprocessor engineer. I design hardware for the Institute of quantum computing. Unoffically, isn't something I'd say in an IRC.
[19:28] <gyre007> is there any way how I can find out what package certain package is a dependency of ?
[19:29] <SysRq-REISUB> gordonjcp, Anyway, nice chatting. I got a USB burnt, and hopefully this works.
[19:29] <llutz> grahamsavage: apt-rdepends ... or apt-cache depends ...
[19:30] <gordonjcp> well, that sounds a lot like bullshit
[19:30] <Apteryx> Is hcitool dev the way to check what bluetooth adapter is working on my system?
[19:31] <llutz> gyre007: apt-rdepends ... or apt-cache depends ...
[19:31] <Lizards|Work> gordonjcp, lol
[19:31] <gyre007> llutz: I need to find out what package did pull another package as dependency
[19:31] <intrader> llutz, wow, I did no pay attention - something new learned. I thought the pipe to grep would examine the output of the ps for the string mysql!
[19:31] <llutz> Apteryx: it only  shows you if your adapter is recognized
[19:31] <gyre007> not the package's dependency
[19:31] <gyre007> basically
[19:31] <gyre007> there is a one package which got installed
[19:31] <gyre007> and I need to find out how
[19:31] <houkouonchi-home> 'I've never used any laptop that isn't quad core.' <--- That magic key reboot guy must not be very old then lol
[19:31] <llutz> gyre007: aptitude why packagename
[19:31] <gyre007> or what installed that package
[19:32] <darkblue_b> anyone know what "Failed to add the host to the list of known hosts" might be caused by?
[19:32] <intrader> bekks, I have not read through it, I am reading it
[19:32] <gyre007> llutz: yep
[19:32] <darkblue_b> I just scp'd to my own remote machine.. should I be concerned ?
[19:32] <gyre007> that was it
[19:32] <llutz> intrader: it does but ps bla|grep foo     is also showing "foo" in the processlist
[19:32] <Bashing-om> gyre007: Sure try terminal commands: apt-cache depends <package_name> or apt-cache rdepends <package_name> : .
[19:32] <Lizards|Work> why would you be concerned darkblue_b
[19:33] <bekks> intrader: It answers all your questions, especially on how to configure mysql in a way that it isnt open to everyone.
[19:33] <gyre007> aptitude why does the job perfectly
[19:33] <intrader> llutz, thanks, something new learned
[19:33] <bekks> intrader: You gave the link yourself, you should have read it already ;)
[19:33] <gordonjcp> darkblue_b: did it ask you to add new key, which you told it not to?
[19:33] <darkblue_b> no
[19:35] <darkblue_b> the remote machines (five or six) are behind a single netgear router.. port 22 is port-forwarded to the main machine.. every once in a while I change that
[19:35] <gordonjcp> aha
[19:35] <intrader> bekks, and it says nothing about stopping the mysql server
[19:35] <darkblue_b> however, I havent changed anything recently
[19:35] <bekks> intrader: How often will you try to stop it...? It isnt running anymore. You know how to stop it already.
[19:36] <Daekdroom> !md5sum
[19:36] <bekks> intrader: That link will tell you how to configure mysql, not how to start/stop it.
[19:36] <llutz> intrader: still: if you don't want to run/use mysql, remove the package
[19:38] <intrader> llutz, I don't want to remove it and reinstall to access it. I want it to not listen to its port
[19:38] <llutz> intrader: isn't it configured to listen to localhost-only by default?
[19:38] <bekks> intrader: Then configure it...
[19:38] <bekks> intrader: Read you own link, and do as you want to.ö
[19:39] <MrAndy> I have a ubuntu-server box, and it's born with 1 ip. I then ordered 9 extra (10 total), however it appears I need to add the 9 ip's myself. How am I going to do that?
[19:39] <intrader> llutz, bekks: I will follow on this, thanks
[19:39] <Lizards|Work> MrAndy, I'd look into NAT
[19:39] <bekks> Lizards|Work: NAT with IPs in the same network is impossible.
[19:39] <Lizards|Work> they're external IPs
[19:40] <bekks> Lizards|Work: In the same network as the first one, external.
[19:40] <Lizards|Work> NAT Pool
[19:40] <bekks> Lizards|Work: Its nonsense, please dont suggest it anymore, for his use case.
[19:40] <ikonia> ....still in the same network
[19:40] <Lizards|Work> idk i'm cisco network not linux network ;)
[19:40] <MrAndy> Lizards|Work, /etc/network/interfaces and add them eth0:1 etc?
[19:40] <ikonia> Lizards|Work: err then you should have a clue about natting
[19:40] <bekks> MrAndy: Yes.
[19:40] <Lizards|Work> i do
[19:40] <Lizards|Work> actually
[19:40] <ikonia> Lizards|Work: nat is the same in linux as it is in cisco
[19:40] <speedmann> i bet MrAndy wants to know how to add real ips... with "ip adde add <ip> dev <devicename>
[19:40] <Lizards|Work> and i've done it
[19:40] <bekks> Lizards|Work: Obviously, you dont.
[19:40] <Lizards|Work> clearly not
[19:41] <Lizards|Work> which is what this cert says
[19:41] <FloodBot1> Lizards|Work: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:41] <darkblue_b> hmm ~/ssh/known_hosts  is 700 root:root
[19:41] <MrAndy> bekks, do you know the parameter 'Network' in the interface conf?
[19:41] <bekks> MrAndy: Yes, I do.
[19:41] <MrAndy> bekks, what does it mean and do?
[19:42]  * darkblue_b checks Allow RootLogin setting
[19:42] <bekks> MrAndy: It defines the network which your address is in.
[19:42] <Apathic> Is it possible to run Gnome on a VPS with 2GB of ram?
[19:42] <llutz> darkblue_b: sudo chown $USER ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[19:42] <MrAndy> may I pm bekks?
[19:42] <bekks> MrAndy: No reason to do so.
[19:42] <darkblue_b> well thanks, but I want to understand if there is apossiblity I was hacked
[19:43] <MrAndy> bekks - do I need to use that parameter if I want to add the other 9 ip's?
[19:43] <llutz> darkblue_b: more likely you run some stupid "sudo ssh ..."
[19:43] <darkblue_b> yes, true
[19:43] <bekks> MrAndy: you need the address, netmask, gateway parameters. All other parameters are optional.
[19:43] <WarriorIng64> Hi, can someone assist me in installing different kernel versions when doing a bisection? Apparently I can't find some of the packages that dpkg needs to satisfy dependencies. I'm trying to follow the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBisection#Bisecting_Ubuntu_kernel_versions
[19:44] <Gerowen> Could you guys take a look at this and see if you can help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2196616&p=12886917#post12886917
[19:44] <bekks> Gerowen: Why dont you state your problem in one sentence in here?
[19:44] <MrAndy> bekks - and I just keep adding them eth0:1 eth0:2 and so forth?
[19:44] <Gerowen> I have 3 videos I need to join, two of them have audio, one doesn't, but when I try to merge them mencoder says, Cannot mix video-only files with audio and video files. Try -nosound.
[19:45] <Gerowen> I've tried OpenShot, audio sync gets way off, AVIDemux crashes constantly.
[19:45] <bekks> MrAndy: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/ubuntu-linux-creating-ethernet-alias-for-eth0-network-device.html
[19:45] <llutz> darkblue_b: sudo ssh   is always bad. use ssh -u username host   or ssh user@host       to connect as different use
[19:45] <llutz> user*
[19:46] <darkblue_b> llutz: yes, but since I ssh about 100x a day.. and also sudo a lot, I can see how I might have slipped
[19:46] <jhutchins> Gerowen: Either add an empty sound track to the one that's missing, or do the whole thing without sound.
[19:46] <darkblue_b> anyway, /etc/ssh/sshd_config shows PermitRootLogin no
[19:46] <Sargun> Where is the source code for ifupdown
[19:46] <darkblue_b> another thing is to check which general user names on this machine have a shell
[19:46] <Sargun> See here: https://code.launchpad.net/ifupdown
[19:47] <ikonia> Sargun: it's a shell script
[19:47] <Gerowen> jhutchins: K, will try an empty soundtrack, audio in the rest of the video is important, the silent one is just one I sped up and re-sampled back to 30 fps, kind of like those British comedies where they play through the video really fast.
[19:48] <Sargun> ikonia: uh. No, it's not.
[19:48] <Sargun> ikonia: It's a C program.
[19:49] <llutz> Sargun: apt-get source ifupdown
[19:49] <ikonia> Sargun: you sure, it's a shell script on my machine,
[19:49] <loptr> hi
[19:50] <luciussir> hey i'm trying to migrate a real partition to a loopback hosted partition in a raw disk image file
[19:50] <luciussir> all other partitions (less than 2 gbs each) copy fine
[19:50] <darkblue_b> loopback hosted partition ?
[19:50] <llutz> Sargun: ifupdown is just a package, not a single file
[19:51] <luciussir> this one dies at 1.6 gb and its actually 20 gb, i tried specifying a larger loopback sizelimit but it still does the same thing
[19:51] <luciussir> virtial partition*
[19:51] <luciussir> virtual lol
[19:51] <luciussir> darkblue_b: sorry
[19:51] <bekks> Whats a virtual partition?
[19:51] <ikonia> luciussir: why don't you just explain the problem you are trying to fix
[19:52] <luciussir> darkblue_b: it seems to be truncating the dd op at 1.6, where would you think this size limit might reside ?
[19:53] <luciussir> ikonia: dd is not writing past 1.6 to the loopback partition (/dev/loop1p7) which inside the image has a size of 23 gbs
[19:53] <ikonia> luciussir: no, why don't you tell us the problem you are trying to fix overall, not the bit you're stuck on
[19:54] <Turingi> I have a headless ubuntu server install. How can I disable the prompt for user input on unclean shutdown?
[19:54] <luciussir> ikonia: I am attempting to migrate an existing physical disk to a virtual disk so i can convert it to a virtual machines disk and sandbox it so i can run it as a virtual machine and use ubuntu as the host os
[19:55] <Sargun> llutz: Yeah, I want to get the source code for it, I need to modify it, and rebuild it.
[19:55] <ikonia> luciussir: a virutal disk ? why are you using "dd"
[19:56] <bekks> Sargun: What are you going to "modify" then?
[19:56] <luciussir> ikonia: i have a one raw disk image which represents the physical disk, i used parted on it to create a gpt filesystem, and so i figured the only way to work with each partition was using loopback devices with kparted to give me access to each individual virtual partition, dd was to do a raw dump of the data from each partition to its corresponding virtual one
[19:56] <ikonia> luciussir: what is the hypervisor ?
[19:57] <darkblue_b> my understanding is that a partition can be read as a file, so dd works.. but I have no clue about that setup
[19:57] <ki7rw> i have a couple of questions - 1. when i ssh to another machine, run an app, close the app, and then exit from the session i don't get the bash prompt back on the local machine and when i try to close the window i get a box about a process still running - i wait a few minutes and i still don't get a prompt back
[19:57] <luciussir> gpt partition table*
[19:57] <ikonia> luciussir: what is the hypervisor ?
[19:57] <ki7rw> 2. why does my display dim from time to time and i can't do anything until the screen un-dims?
[19:58] <darkblue_b> ki7rw: yo umay have an X windows service alive
[19:58] <ki7rw> both situations occur on all my linux boxes regardless of ubuntu version
[19:58] <luciussir> ikonia: so what should i use ? see some of the partitions have no recognized filesystem
[19:58] <ikonia> luciussir: please answer my question
[19:59] <darkblue_b> ki7rw: I connect with ssh -X to antother machine.. and sometimes an X thing will keep the session open when I try to logout.. its a minor thing though, which is generally easily fixable
[19:59] <luciussir> ikonia: what i'm convinced of is that the loopback devices has a size limit per partition,
[19:59] <ikonia> luciussir: ok - bye bye, you refuse to answer my question and just keep giving me worthless information
[19:59] <luciussir> ikonia: and calls to losetup --sizelimit do not seem to be helping
[20:00] <darkblue_b> ki7rw: there may be some config somewhere adding thinfgs to an ssh connection on some host, also
[20:01] <llutz> Sargun: yes and the command to get the source, is: apt-get source ifupdown
[20:01] <luciussir> ikonia: be patient dude i got lagged out
[20:01] <luciussir> ikonia: didn't see your question. i'm considering using either kvm or virtualbox
[20:02] <[[a]_> Greeting everyone, how can I hide the ubuntu's terminal? minimize it in tray.
[20:02] <luciussir> ikonia: i'm lagged by at least 15 seconds... seems to be rising in fact
[20:05] <intrader> Anyone, normally I use the TAB key to complete someone's nick. Sometimes, I am unable to get TAB to work. Why is that?
[20:06] <bkuberek> hello
[20:06] <bkuberek> working on some debian packages
[20:06] <cigrits> i do when im using xchat, it doesnt work on xchat aqua.
[20:06] <bekks> bkuberek: For debian, or for Ubuntu? :)
[20:06] <bkuberek> is there a way to get the package name and version from within the debian/rules file?
[20:06] <[[a]_> i dont know how to hide the terminal
[20:07] <bkuberek> bekks: both
[20:07] <darkblue_b> bekks: be nice to packagers :-)
[20:07] <bekks> darkblue_b: I just wanted more information.
[20:08] <bkuberek> I was hoping in debian/rules I could do something like $$(PKG_VERSION)
[20:08] <iceroot> bkuberek: debian/control
[20:08] <Bashing-om> intrader: Maybe because the <nick> has quit the channel ?
[20:08] <bkuberek> iceroot: I have some custom rules and I was hoping to use version and name in my rules file
[20:09] <intrader> Bashing-om, well maybe, but I was able to type the nick and it worked. Did no notice leaving list
[20:09] <iceroot> bkuberek: the version is always in debian/control
[20:09] <iceroot> bkuberek: what you do with your priavte packages is your case
[20:09] <bkuberek> iceroot: mot when using --with-python
[20:09] <bkuberek> then the version comes from the setup.py file
[20:10] <bkuberek> I need the exact version string used to building the path where it is installed
[20:10] <iceroot> bkuberek: debian/changelog  there you will find the version (from the package) not the software
[20:10] <iceroot> bkuberek: dch -i will create the current version number
[20:10] <Bashing-om> intrader: What I am saying is that tab completion will not work if that person has left the channel.
[20:11] <bkuberek> iceroot: so I would need to parse my changelog for the version numbert
[20:11] <bkuberek> I thought there was some variable I could use
[20:12] <iceroot> bkuberek: i am not aware of a variable which is always used
[20:12] <bkuberek> this post says I could use cdbs: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/804948/variables-in-debian-rules-makefile
[20:12] <bkuberek> but I am not familiar with cdbs
[20:12] <iceroot> bkuberek: maybe the manpage of debhelper knows more, sorry
[20:12] <bkuberek> iceroot: thanks for the help
[20:12] <bkuberek> I will look some more otherwise I will parse the file
[20:14] <intrader> Bashing-om, yes I have tried that (for example JaTAB does not find Jay__). However, in one instance I notice that imghost was not responsing the the TAB yet imghost was present and listening
[20:15] <Balzy_> hello, I have a computer connected to my router via lan, is it possible to use the router wifi antenna to connect to other wifi networks?
[20:16] <bekks> intrader: Tab completion does not mean that the alphabetical order has to be used.
[20:16] <llutz> Balzy_: if your router supports wifi-client mode, sure
[20:16] <Bashing-om> intrader: Uhmm, sounds like you might want to read your .config file and maybe the scripts you are using ? But, I really do not know further.
[20:16] <bekks> intrader: However - how is your mysql configuration going?
[20:17] <Balzy_> llutz I could check, if so what shall I do?
[20:17] <K1rk> Hello anyone around who can assist me with installing Broadcom BCM43222 card on Ubuntu 12.04?  I've tried all sorts of drivers and I can't get it working.  (b43 doesn't work, b43legacy doesn't work, even though kernel.org lists the chipset as supported...)
[20:17] <llutz> Balzy_: read the documentation of your router and check how you setup as wifi-client
[20:17] <intrader> bekks, everything running fine - however, now I need to shut everything down (apache2 and mysql)
[20:17] <bekks> intrader: Because...?
[20:18] <intrader> Bashing-om, thanks
[20:18] <llutz> Balzy_: since its not likely you run ubuntu on the router, its not a topic here. it is a plain router thing
[20:19] <intrader> bekks, not to make mysql or apache available to the network  - my computer is behind a router exposed by dundns
[20:19] <intrader> bekks, dyndns
[20:19] <bekks> intrader: Why dont you finally start _configuring_ them then?
[20:19] <bekks> intrader: you have been given all information needed on how to configure mysql in a safe way.
[20:20] <gordonjcp> intrader: by default mysql isn't exposed to the network
[20:20] <imghost> intrader, did you read the informations be honest
[20:20] <Jay__> Anyone able to help install VMware Player? I'm getting the following message 'kernel headers for version 3.8.0-34 generic were not found'
[20:20] <llutz> intrader: isn't it configured to listen to localhost-only by default? so no chance to access from outside. check your configuration!
[20:20] <Balzy_> llutz yep, it's the usual router provided by the internet company thx!
[20:21] <K1rk> Jay__: You need to install your kernel headers.
[20:21] <K1rk> Jay__: Try "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`"
[20:21] <Jay__> Did that, still doesn't work
[20:22] <jhutchins> Jay__: #vmware - also they have commercial support.
[20:22] <intrader> bekks, imghost, gordonjcp: wow guys, I don't understand then. I have read the article and I don't see how to stop mysql
[20:22] <K1rk> Jay__: Does the kernel version in the vmware error match up sorta with what's in your uname -r output?
[20:22] <K1rk> Curious if maybe you didn't install the headers for 'generic'
[20:23] <bekks> intrader: You stopped it a thousand times until now. Face that fac finally.
[20:23] <bekks> *fact
[20:23] <Jay__> K1rk: yeah it matches
[20:23] <bekks> intrader: How often do you want to stop it?
[20:23] <intrader> bekks, once is enough for me
[20:24] <bekks> intrader: Then face the fact that you stopped it already.
[20:26] <K1rk> Jay__: Sorry man that should be working for you then.
[20:26] <intrader> bekks, indeed, phpmyadmin does not find Hurray. Thanks - now I stop apache2
[20:26] <K1rk> Jay__: If you're still getting that error then vmware may be looking in the wrong path for the kernel headers.  It may be best to talk to them in their #vmware channel as suggested earlier.
[20:26] <bekks> intrader: And, in fact, by default, apache2 is configured to listen on localhost only, too. So in fact, no one can access it from outside.
[20:26] <Lizards|Work> localhost/phpMyAdmin
[20:26] <Jay__> K1rk: np man, thanks for the help. Yeah I just jumped on there
[20:26] <K1rk> Jay__: I usually don't mess with installing VMWare on top of Linux if I can avoid it.  ESXi is the way to go.
[20:26] <bekks> intrader: Face the fact that you dont have to.
[20:26] <imghost> intrader, what is the output of sudo netstat -tap | grep mysql?
[20:27] <Czupa> How to fix GPG  NO_PUBKEY error when running apt-get update?
[20:27] <intrader> bekks, wells localhost is equivalent to my laptops ip, it can be accessed throught dyndns from the outside.
[20:28] <llutz> intrader: nonsense, localhost is localhost
[20:28] <llutz> intrader: 127.0.0.1, not accessible from anywhere
[20:28] <bekks> intrader: If that would be the case, you would never been able to reach it from outside. Localhost ip addresses arent reachable from anywhere but the local host.
[20:28] <bekks> intrader: You should be aware of that fact, too.
[20:29] <imghost> intrader, what is localhost?
[20:29] <intrader> llutz, 127.0.0.1 is equivalent to localhost
[20:29] <llutz> intrader: do yourself a favour and read about some basics
[20:29] <bekks> intrader: Correct. That IP isnt reachable from anywhere.
[20:29] <llutz> intrader: yes and it's not accessible from anywhere
[20:29] <bekks> intrader: If that would be your IP address, you would not have a working internet connection.
[20:30] <Lizards|Work> 127.0.0.1 is unroutable
[20:30] <Bashing-om> Czupa: http://askubuntu.com/questions/13065/how-do-i-fix-the-gpg-error-no-pubkey .
[20:30] <bekks> Lizards|Work: It is, it just isnt routed.
[20:31] <llutz> there no place like 127.0.0.1 ...
[20:31] <Lizards|Work> it's supposed to be dropped at gateway routers
[20:31] <Lizards|Work> supposed to be
[20:31] <bekks> intrader: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Localhost
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> 127.0.0.1 sweet 127.0.0.1
[20:31] <Lizards|Work> ::1 is where the <3 is
[20:31] <llutz> ;D MonkeyDust
[20:31] <imghost> intrader, paste the output of ifconfig
[20:31] <bekks> My home is my 127.0.0.1
[20:32] <intrader> llutz, bekks: 192.168.0.101 == 127.0.0.1 == localhost is visible through a dyndns server as intrader/dyndns-office
[20:33] <llutz> intrader: do yourself a favour and read about some basics
[20:33] <bekks> intrader: 192.168.0.101 is never 127.0.0.1
[20:33] <bekks> intrader: Thats simply nonsense.
[20:33] <Lizards|Work> 127.0.0.1 never refers to itself as 192.168.0.101
[20:33] <llutz> intrader: "ip a s" shows you 127.0.0.1 for lo and this isn't accessible from outside. even if it is on the same machine as ethX
[20:34] <intrader> llutz, bekks:  when I click on 192.168.0.101 I reach my laptop's apache2
[20:34] <llutz> intrader: yes, but not 127.0.0.1
[20:34] <intrader> llutz, bekks:  as well as localhost and 127.0.0.1
[20:34] <llutz> intrader: you trolling
[20:35] <llutz> intrader: you cannot reach your laptop from any other machine by addressing it localhost or 127.0.0.1
[20:35] <Lizards|Work> the DHCP server on your router assigned 192.168.0.101 to your machine
[20:35] <houkouonchi-home> intrader: by default most processes listen on 0.0.0.0:port IE all interfaces
[20:35] <Lizards|Work> so when you send a request to the router for 192.168.0.101 it comes back to your machine
[20:35] <llutz> intrader: ON your laptop both addresses work, sure
[20:36] <houkouonchi-home> if something is listening on 127.0.0.1:port it will not be accessible from the outside
[20:36] <houkouonchi-home> you can verify what its listening on via netstat -nlp
[20:36] <intrader> llutz, nt really - any of 192.168.0.101, localhost, 127.0.0.1 are synonyms and can reach apache2
[20:36] <gordonjcp> intrader: there's no nice way to say this - you haven't got the faintest clue what you are doing and you need to stop.  Stop *now*, and learn some of the basics of networking.  It's not even anything specific to Ubuntu, or even Linux.
[20:36] <Synthead> Every time I start Chrome, it says that Chrome isn't my default browser, even when I click "Set as default".  I'm using XFCE.  Is there a way to fix this?
[20:36] <houkouonchi-home> intrader: depends on how your apache is configured
[20:36] <llutz> intrader: ON your laptop both addresses work, sure
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> intrader  read the "Tip": http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/l/locahost.htm
[20:37] <llutz> intrader: you cannot reach your laptop _from any other machine_ by addressing it localhost or 127.0.0.1
[20:37] <intrader> Thanks for now guys - I will read and confirm the info
[20:37] <Lizards|Work> can't spoof localhost effectively either, because it's not routable
[20:38] <demophobia> "Your system does not meet the minimum requirements for the TOEFL Practice Online site." What can I do about websites that insist on Internet Explorer and Windows OS?
[20:39] <Lizards|Work> use IE and Windows?
[20:39] <llutz> demophobia: use nternet Explorer and Windows OS
[20:39] <bekks> demophobia: Setup a vm using Windows and IE.
[20:39] <Lizards|Work> ^
[20:39] <houkouonchi-home> Lizards|Work: well it would always be attempted to be routed through lo because 127.0.0.1/8 should be assigned to lo. I am curious if lo is not setup if it would actually attempt to route for 127.0.0.1
[20:40] <demophobia> bekks, does that require a copy of Windows OS?
[20:40] <Lizards|Work> houkouonchi-home, gateway routers are supposed to drop 127.0.0.1/8 traffic
[20:40] <houkouonchi-home> demophobia: try using some user-agent switch tool first unless the site requires active X or some bs?
[20:40] <bekks> demophobia: Of course.
[20:40] <llutz> houkouonchi-home: sudo ifdown lo && ping localhost
[20:41] <demophobia> fyi, i'm wanting to use my ubuntu pc here -- not go to the library ...
[20:41] <Bashing-om> Synthead: Try terminal code: sudo update-alternatives --get-selections <- see what selecting "browser" does for ya.
[20:41] <demophobia> (or spend $200)
[20:41] <bekks> demophobia: No chance.
[20:42] <houkouonchi-home> llutz: well it doesn't give a no route to host error =P
[20:42] <llutz> houkouonchi-home: so you got your answer
[20:42] <Lizards|Work> demophobia, did your PC come with windows installed on it?
[20:43] <houkouonchi-home> but it doesn't seem to actually send out packets out of the interface which routes for 0.0.0.0/0 either
[20:43] <llutz> houkouonchi-home: of course not
[20:43] <Lizards|Work> /0 means none of the bits are significant
[20:43] <houkouonchi-home> well 0.0.0.0/0 usually means the default route, IE to everywhere
[20:43] <houkouonchi-home> IE: all addresses
[20:43] <Lizards|Work> it's not a broadcast address
[20:44] <houkouonchi-home> I am not saying it is?
[20:44] <llutz> houkouonchi-home: except 127.x.x.x
[20:44] <Synthead> Bashing-om: update-alternatives --get-selections | grep -E '(gnome-www-browser|x-www-browser)' shows Chrome's path twice
[20:44] <Lizards|Work> all addresses everywhere would mean broadcast
[20:44] <houkouonchi-home> llutz: yeah linux does appear to be smart enough to not try to route things to 127.0.0.1. I wonder if you could attempt it with a static route, you have me curious now =)
[20:44] <houkouonchi-home> Lizards|Work: I am just notating via CIDR as a route not a broadcast
[20:45] <Lizards|Work> i'm aware, but it would be unicast except that it's not significant
[20:45] <Lizards|Work> there are no significant bits
[20:45] <imghost> night@all exit
[20:45] <houkouonchi-home> like saying you route 192.168.0.0/24 over eth0 would be 192.168.0.1-255 routed over eth0 but if you routed 0.0.0.0/0 over eth0 then that would route all addresses over that interface, IE thew default route
[20:45] <Bashing-om>  Synthead : Beats me why or what that might imply, sorry !
[20:45] <intrader> llutz, bekks: 192.168.0.101 == 127.0.0.1 == localhost are equal. However dyndns daemon no longer responding
[20:46] <llutz> intrader: " 192.168.0.101 == 127.0.0.1 == localhost are equal"  stop repeating this nonsense
[20:46] <Kartagis> Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) <--- with this audio device I get nothing but a constant buzz with skype. this has started with the 13.10 upgrade. any ideas?
[20:46] <bekks> intrader: Thats nonsense.
[20:46] <bekks> intrader: Several people told you several times. It will not magically become true by repeating it.
[20:46] <houkouonchi-home> Lizards|Work: you disagree that 0.0.0.0/0 denotes all IP addresses?
[20:46] <llutz> intrader: those addresses are bound to different interfacs
[20:46] <gordonjcp> intrader: do you never get tired of being wrong?
[20:47] <BluesKaj> Kartagis, does the sound work with other media apps ?
[20:47] <Lizards|Work> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcast_address
[20:47] <Lizards|Work> houkouonchi-home ^
[20:47] <Kartagis> BluesKaj: yeah, in fact I'm listening to music atm
[20:47] <Kartagis> with clementine
[20:47] <Lizards|Work> your definition is faulty houkouonchi-home
[20:47] <bekks> intrader: However, I am getting tired of your nonsense, and your attitude of not learning the things other do tell you. Maqybe the others are more patient. Dont expect any help from me any further.
[20:47] <houkouonchi-home> Lizards|Work: I am talking about routes not broadcasts
[20:48] <Lizards|Work> and i'm saying it's not routable
[20:48] <Lizards|Work> "Transmission to this address is limited by definition, in that it is never forwarded by the routers connecting the local network to other networks."
[20:48] <Lizards|Work> and your NIC should drop it too
[20:48] <houkouonchi-home> wait are you talking about 127.0.0.0/8 now? I am not disagreeing about that
[20:49] <llutz> Lizards|Work: if you like wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Default_route
[20:49] <Lizards|Work> llutz, i don't like wiki
[20:49] <houkouonchi-home> I don't know why when I am talking about routes your linking me to a broadcast wiki lol
[20:49] <Lizards|Work> what happens for inverse ARP requests to 0.0.0.0?
[20:50] <glitsj16> Kartagis: it's a known problem with skype on 13.10 --> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/get-sound-working-in-skype-with-ubuntu.html
[20:50] <llutz> Lizards|Work: read it anyways to get houkouonchi-home point
[20:50] <houkouonchi-home> why would an arp request made to 0.0.0.0?
[20:50] <Lizards|Work> inverse arp
[20:50] <TJ-> houkouonchi-home: I think you're got slightly confused. "0.0.0.0/0" as a target IP is *not* forwarded by routers, it is used for broadcasts only (such as for BOOTP/DHCP). But in routing-table parlance, "0.0.0.0/0" is just a placeholder in dotted-decimal format meaning "default route"
[20:51] <Kartagis> webupd8 again? does this guy have nothing to do but save lives? :D
[20:51] <Lizards|Work> it's the target of the 255.255.255.255 broadcast
[20:51] <houkouonchi-home> TJ-: With CIDR you use x.x.x.x/y to denote a network.... 0.0.0.0/0 would indicate all ipv4 IP addresses, so yes if something is set to that it would be the 'default route'
[20:51] <houkouonchi-home> does 0.0.0.0/0 always mean default route/ no
[20:51] <glitsj16> Kartagis: lol, he seems to be doing fine
[20:51] <Lizards|Work> uh
[20:52] <houkouonchi-home> TJ-: but 0.0.0.0/0 does not only mean 'default route' it means all ipv4 IP addresses
[20:52] <Lizards|Work> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1519
[20:52] <Lizards|Work> "Note that handling of the "default" route
[20:52] <Lizards|Work>    (0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0) is a special case of this rule - a network must not
[20:52] <Lizards|Work>    follow the default to destinations which are part of one of it's
[20:52] <Lizards|Work>    aggregated advertisements."
[20:52] <FloodBot1> Lizards|Work: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:52] <Kartagis> glitsj16: I resolved my issue of google-chrome refusing to install under 13.04 because of a lib change in google-chrome
[20:53] <glitsj16> Kartagis: nice
[20:54] <houkouonchi-home> maybe people are confused by what I am saying... When I first brought up 0.0.0.0/0 I was talking routing which in that situation it would be synonymous with 'default route'
[20:54] <MrAndy> I really need help from a person whom knows how to setup multiple ip's on one server box. Been working on this all day.
[20:54] <TJ-> houkouonchi-home: Yes, that is what we're saying, but earlier you wrote "...but if you routed 0.0.0.0/0 over eth0..." and we are saying you can't route the IP address 0.0.0.0... maybe the misunderstanding is just over the precise use of the words.
[20:55] <houkouonchi-home> TJ-: And since when is 0.0.0.0/0 an IP address? LOL its a network
[20:55] <houkouonchi-home> did I say 0.0.0.0/32 lol?
[20:55] <TJ-> houkouonchi-home: And to you earlier question, if there is no interface for the 127.0.0.0/8 subnet *and* a default route is defined then yes 127.0.0.1 would be forwarded to the next hop
[20:56] <houkouonchi-home> TJ-: well I verified with tcpdump that with no IP assigned to lo and thus no route entry for 127.0.0.0/8 it still did not actually send out packets to destination ips in 127.0.0.0/8 so it does seem to be smarter than that
[20:56] <llutz> TJ-: (practically) it isn't on linux boxes
[20:56] <Lizards|Work> houkouonchi-home, it's the next hop. it'd only go one step if the NIC didn't drop it
[20:56] <houkouonchi-home> TJ-: please point out what is wrong with saying routed 0.0.0.0/0 over eth0
[20:56] <TJ-> houkouonchi-home: Indeed, by default the kernel will not pass that subnet
[20:57] <TJ-> houkouonchi-home: If you said "any address not in the routing table" it would read correctly, but saying "routing 0.0.0.0/0 over..."  sounds wrong both semantically and logically
[20:57] <MrAndy> Help with adding external ip's to a box.
[20:58] <TJ-> MrAndy: additional IPs on an existing interface? IPv4 or IPv6?
[20:58] <MrAndy> IPv4
[20:59] <Bashing-om> Czupa: I got your CTCP PING. do not know how to respond, new to IRC .
[21:00] <MrAndy> TJ-, the box is born with one ip, obviously, but I've leased another 9 that I just cant get in.
[21:00] <houkouonchi-home> TJ-: Ok well you say 'sounds' wrong but I dont see how it 'is' wrong. You can do ip route add 0.0.0.0/0 via $gatewayip dev $dev and that will add a rule to route to all ip addresses (of course not counting previous entries)
[21:00] <Lizards|Work> houkouonchi-home, that's the default route. it's a special use case and is implemented specially
[21:00] <TJ-> MrAndy: To add additional IPs to an existing interface with IPv4 you create an "alias" interface, see "man ifconfig" . In particular, you create a new 'alias' interface as e.g.  "eth0:0" and "eth0:1" ... one for each IPv4 you wish to allocate
[21:00] <houkouonchi-home> you would specify 0.0.0.0/0 for all IP addresses in iptables rules as well but really just not setting -d or -s is going to do that for you
[21:01] <MrAndy> TJ-, can I send you the interface file?
[21:01] <TJ-> MrAndy: pastebin it
[21:01] <MrAndy> TJ-, what I thought ;)
[21:02] <houkouonchi-home> MrAndy: its easy if all the additional IPs are using the same gateway IP address, not so easy if they are not.
[21:04] <TJ-> houkouonchi-home: It is easy... each stanza in "/etc/network/interfaces" has its own "gateway a.b.c.d" entry.
[21:04] <houkouonchi-home> I did mention that in the case of routing that 0.0.0.0/0 is synonymous with 'default' so if you would have been ok with route default over eth0 then I really don't see a problem with what I said other than instead of using an alias I just kept it in CIDR. Of course that is when we are talking routing as I have mentioned several times 0.0.0.0/0 != 'default route' in all contexts
[21:04] <houkouonchi-home> TJ-: well unless something is changed with ubuntu it will not like multiple interfaces taking multiple gateways as its always setup as the default gateway
[21:04] <houkouonchi-home> interfaces/sub-interfaces/etc...
[21:04] <TJ-> houkouonchi-home: I use it on my servers, it's very straight-forward
[21:05] <houkouonchi-home> TJ-: on a server that is using IP addresses on sub-interfaces that are not in the same subnet and are using a different gateway IP address?
[21:06] <MrAndy> TJ-, you get my pms?
[21:06] <ooPaulieoo> Hello all!
[21:06] <houkouonchi-home> TJ-: I would love to show an example of a /etc/network/interface with what I just said working
[21:07] <TJ-> MrAndy: Here's an example of IPv4 aliases, which use multiple default gateways http://paste.ubuntu.com/6664938/
[21:09] <houkouonchi-home> TJ-: don't see how that works for you.. I get an error on ifup eth0:1 because RTNETLINK answers: File exists
[21:09] <houkouonchi-home> because as I suspected ubuntu is just trying to change the default gateway again
[21:09] <TJ-> houkouonchi-home: works fine in practice; been using it for several years that way
[21:10] <houkouonchi-home> TJ-: so you are able to access 5.6.7.8 from IP addresses outside of 5.6.7.0/24 ?
[21:11] <houkouonchi-home> it still brings up the interface but it doesn't actually add the gateway
[21:11] <houkouonchi-home> TJ-: I don't think you understand what I am saying or the gateway IP address used previously assigned (1.2.3.1) will also route packets from 5.6.7.8
[21:12] <houkouonchi-home> because the only way I know of and have seen to have multiple gateways like that is doing advanced routing rules with ip directly and using tables
[21:13] <houkouonchi-home> IE: ip route add table $tablename to default via $gatewayip dev $dev
[21:13] <houkouonchi-home> and ip rule add from $ip table $tablename
[21:15] <houkouonchi-home> but again as I mentioned I know of no automated way for ubuntu to be able to do this.
[21:16] <houkouonchi-home> the vast majority of the time you will just use one gateway IP addresses even when the IPs are in different subnets because its the same provider/router you are going through and it will work even if in different subnets or they are strait out the same subnet and thus would be the same gateway for all IP addresses
[21:16] <gabmus> sup
[21:17] <gabmus> gonna try ubuntu touch on my nexus 4, running a nandroid backup right now, wish me good luck :)
[21:17] <athene_noctua> while installing 12.04 as a dual boot alongside windows 7, the installer wrote the bootloader to the USB drive I was installing from instead of to the hard disk.
[21:17] <TJ-> MrAndy: Just looked at your interfaces file; you must define the "eth0" interface with one IPv4 address... you can't make them all aliases. If you have 9 IPs then you'll have eth0 and then eth0:0 - eth0:7
[21:18] <gabmus> ahtene_noctua try 13.10
[21:18] <athene_noctua> If I were to just reinstall a new copy of 12.04 over where it was previously written, where should I assign the bootloader to be written to in a dual boot setup?
[21:18] <MrAndy> Thats only 9 ips total TJ-?
[21:19] <houkouonchi-home> athene_noctua: might just wanna grab a shell and mount your installed file-system somewhere, mount -o bind /dev /$mountpoint/dev and same for proc and just chroot /$mountpoint and grub-install /dev/sdX (actual HD)
[21:19] <MrAndy> TJ-, shouldnt it be eth0 eth0:0 - eth0:8 ?
[21:20] <TJ-> MrAndy: Yes, that's what I said for example... in your case you have a different number but the same rule applies. allocate an IP to the primary interface eth0 and the additional IPs to aliases
[21:21] <manlin> hi guys. i'm a bit confused about the way iptables work in ubuntu. I'm from RHEL background
[21:21] <manlin> i could see iptables. how do i start or stop the service and what the service is called?
[21:22] <MrAndy> tj- look pm
[21:22] <bekks> !ufw | manlin
[21:22] <houkouonchi-home> man0riaX: default ubuntu firewall is ufw I believe
[21:22] <houkouonchi-home> although I use ferm
[21:23] <Pici> ufw just provides a 'friendlier' interface to iptables.
[21:23] <manlin> alright. where is the iptables rules file get stored? somewhere in /etc/ so that i can manually edit it
[21:24] <athene_noctua> houkouonchi-home: that's a good idea, I'll give it a try. I was concerned about placement of the bootloader. You're saying that it should be on the primary ubuntu partition, just stick it there with grub-install, right?
[21:24] <manlin> i used to add comments to my iptables rules
[21:24] <bekks> manlin: It's described in the article given.
[21:24] <manlin> bekks: cool. will try it
[21:25] <houkouonchi-home> athene_noctua: well grub is usually installed into the MBR (assuming MSDOS partition table and not GPT) so it would just be like /dev/sdb (assuming your USB stick was /dev/sda)
[21:25] <houkouonchi-home> (as far as the argument to grub-install)
[21:25] <napsc> manlin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[21:26] <blacklight> hi guys, any news about vst support for lmms on saucy for amd64? the support has been broken for a while, and the maintainer said that he's going to fix it probably within 14.04...what to do now if i need vst support on lmms on saucy? both using lmms from wine and using ubuntu studio are not options
[21:26] <athene_noctua> houkouonchi-home: it's somewhat unsettling to have grub-install write to this persons MBR because they don't have a legit copy of windows to reinstall if everything goes kablam.
[21:26] <manlin> napsc: i'm reading that. but can't see where by default iptables store the rules file
[21:27] <manlin> napsc: in RHEL/CentOS i manually edit /etc/sysconfig/iptables. i was expecting something similar
[21:28] <athene_noctua> houkouonchi-home: just trying not to wade into a deeper mess
[21:28] <houkouonchi-home> well if its not being written to the MBR then how is grub goign to be started by the windows boot loader after that first loads?
[21:28] <napsc> i just make a script file with them and edit/execute when needed.
[21:29] <houkouonchi-home> add a question mark after started? so there is a pause there =P
[21:31] <TJ-> manlin: If you are using UFW see this for file locations: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UncomplicatedFirewall#Advanced_Functionality
[21:33] <YellowBadger> hello ubuntu users!
[21:33] <manlin> TJ-: that was useful. thanks.
[21:33] <tozen> YellowBadger: hi! wazzap?
[21:33] <YellowBadger> all good thanks! and you?
[21:34] <MarGul> Hi I have a intel i5 processor(64 bit) and I'm going to download xubuntu 12.04. When I look for which one to get if I click on 64bit it gives me the AMD version. Or should I download the i386 bversion because of my intel processor (is that one still 64 bit)?
[21:35] <llutz> MarGul: amd64 is fine for intel too, just confusing naming
[21:35] <DJones> MarGul: No, 64 bit version for Intel and AMD is just called AMD64
[21:35] <DJones> MarGul: i386 isn't a 64 bit version
[21:35] <MarGul> Okey thanks guys :)
[21:35] <ObrienDave> i386 is 32 bit
[21:36] <llutz> they should call it x86_64
[21:36] <pepito> Hi ! I need some help ... For install a .run I tested chmod +x and after ./ But that didn't work. How make it works ?
[21:36] <houkouonchi-home> MarGul: it was called amd64 because back in the olden days AMD was the only ones to have 64-bit processors with the Athlon 64
[21:36] <houkouonchi-home> so unfortunately instead of using the generic (x86_64) a lot of distro's, debian, gentoo, slackware used amd64
[21:36] <apostolos> hello anybody from  greece?
[21:36] <houkouonchi-home> it is unfortunate because it confuses people
[21:36] <blacklight> pepito: what's the error?
[21:37] <houkouonchi-home> MarGul: and by only ones to have 64-bit processors i mean x86 64-bit processors
[21:37] <user82> cheers. how can i see if my wifi is using 2.4ghz or 5ghz currently?
[21:37] <pepito> blacklight wit ./ it's binary files impossible to run and with sh ./ is syntax error : "(" unexpected.
[21:38] <pepito> µwith
[21:38] <MarGul> houkouonchi-home: Okey perfect. Really hope my laptop runs smoother with xubuntu. Had some weird problems with ubuntu 12.04. My virtualbox was to slow and as soon as I watched youtube my CPU would almost get overheated
[21:38] <houkouonchi-home> i thought iwconfig usually showed that stuff
[21:38] <blacklight> pepito: what does the command "file ......run" say?
[21:39] <numberone> hello, how to make some breaks in the output of a command ?
[21:39] <user82> houkouonchi-home, thanks. i forgot the name of the terminal app
[21:39] <pepito> blacklight : ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), statically linked, stripped
[21:39] <houkouonchi-home> MarGul: I wonder if it was using hardware accel or not. Might be better off with flash if it was using HTML5 instead. Also if a laptop with amd/nvidia graphics card you may want to make sure you have the closed source (fast) driver installed
[21:39] <llutz> numberone: command  |more
[21:40] <houkouonchi-home> mumixam: or |less which supports page up/down which more does not (for me on my terminal). Unless you meant horizontal breaks in the data like with | column
[21:41] <MarGul> houkouonchi-home: I have a radeon card. When I get my fresh xubuntu install should I do anything with my drivers or just let it be the default drivers?
[21:41] <SuperLag> How do you disable login keyring?
[21:41] <MarGul> and yes its on a laptop
[21:41] <houkouonchi-home> well I am not sure what xubuntu uses but usually the AMD's non-open source drivers (fglrx) are not installed by default
[21:43] <MarGul> houkouonchi-home: and its the fglrx drivers you want?
[21:43] <houkouonchi-home> MarGul: yes if its an ATI/AMD video card fglrx are ATI's drivers
[21:43] <houkouonchi-home> IE: the ones that are closed sorce but provide the best performance (and often compatibility when talking about new hardware).
[21:44] <houkouonchi-home> especially if you want to run anything 3d like games then its pretty much a requirement
[21:46] <houkouonchi-home> MarGul: it may come with it off the bat (can verify with lsmod) but I use ubuntu for servers and not desktop systems so I am not sure what the defaults are and haven't used xubuntu
[21:47] <Renodef> Hi guys.. I'm running 12.04, and update manager hasn't detected any updates since the past 6 days. It also seems to run, and check for updates without throwing up an error, but then still says "Package information was last updated 6 days ago". How do I "reset" it, and force it to discard the package information its compiled, and get it to check for updates again?
[21:48] <Bashing-om> houkouonchi-home: To the best of my awareness, at install - if one selected to install 3rd party software the fglrx drivers are installed, else then the open source drivers are installed (?) .
[21:48] <Renodef> #it's
[21:48] <MarGul> houkouonchi-home: Okey thanks, just going to have to test it and see if its working. Whats the lsmod command to check what driver I have? ;/
[21:48] <thaurwylth> U 12.04, I want to share internet connection from ppp0 to eth0. There HAS TO BE an easy way. None of the tutorials I have found thus far either qualify or work.
[21:50] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, Hi
[21:50] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, I've tried the test with suspend script
[21:50] <H_Miki> Hi! I need a native english speaker, who teach me. Please join the English_Learning channel, if you help me. Thank you very much!
[21:50] <Bashing-om> Renodef: See what results from terminal commands: sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade <- .
[21:53] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Ah..thanks. I just ran sudo apt-get update, and it's saying that it has bad signatures?!
[21:53] <Renodef> How do I fix that?
[21:55] <Bashing-om> Renodef: , Could be MANY things, what is the exact error, for further advisement.
[21:56] <notkoos_> thaurwylth: enable ipv4 forwarding, add masquerade rule for ppp0 interface, use filter rules to drop stuff you don't want to forward
[21:56] <Renodef> Bashing-om: here's the terminal output http://paste.ubuntu.com/6665195/
[21:56] <thaurwylth> This advice does not qualify, sorry.
[21:57] <thaurwylth> It's almost 2014. There has to be a one-line command or at most three mouse clicks for this.
[21:57] <thaurwylth> If not, well, developers, here's your next killer daemon project.
[21:57] <athene_noctua> houkouonchi-home: here is output of fdisk http://bpaste.net/show/H2hr5Vl7jtySkOuUrsTE/  boot-repair reports it will install GRUB to /dev/sda (MBR). This should be fine, but could you take a look?
[21:58] <notkoos_> 2 commands :) 3-4 to add filtering... does not qualify why? ;)
[21:58] <athene_noctua> Or anyone, for that matter. ^
[21:58] <Bashing-om> Renodef: lemme look at the -195, I be back !
[21:58] <thaurwylth> Obviously we see this issue very differently.
[21:59] <gabmus> uhm guys
[21:59] <gabmus> big problem here
[21:59] <gayle> Hi all
[21:59] <houkouonchi-home> athene_noctua: that looks ok. I wouldn't think you would need a legit windows license to re-install windows boot loader in the case of removing linux though as long as you have a windows boot dvd/cd
[21:59] <gabmus> installing ubuntu touch, it's about 5 min stuck in cwm installing screen
[21:59] <FranktheTank> Hey guys. I know this isn't the perfect place to ask...but does anyone here have experience with Eclipse and AVD's? I cannot get it to work (ubuntu).
[21:59] <gabmus> the one with the android and the spinning 3d thingie
[21:59] <gayle> Does anyone know why I keep getting the lightdm screen when trying to create a livecd from scratch with XFCE4 as the DE?
[21:59] <YellowBadger> is this channel only to share problems?
[22:00] <athene_noctua> houkouonchi-home: right, that makes sense to me as well. I'm going to go ahead and give it a go.
[22:00] <llutz> thaurwylth: in times you get plastic-routers for less than 10$ the pressure to develop your "killer daemon project" is not very high
[22:00] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Thanks! GN00b here, so any help is much appreciated. :D
[22:00] <FranktheTank> YellowBadger: We share hugs too
[22:00] <YellowBadger> FranktheTank, haha
[22:00] <DJones> gabmus: You're probably best joining #ubuntu-touch which has been the support channel for the tablet/phone version of Ubuntu
[22:00] <gabmus> oh fine it rebooted
[22:00] <gabmus> didnt know about that channel
[22:00] <gabmus> jeez, i almost sh** my pants
[22:00] <DJones> gabmus: The people there will probably be best placed to give you some assistance if you need it
[22:01] <Bashing-om> Renodef: Pretty easy to fix, see:http://askubuntu.com/questions/13065/how-do-i-fix-the-gpg-error-no-pubkey ; should workie great.
[22:01] <gabmus> thank you very much :D
[22:02] <yohanes> helo
[22:04] <gayle> anyone has an answer?
[22:06] <llutz> gayle: your question makes no sense. lightdm is a display manager, xfce4 a DE, there is no relation between. if you "create from scratch" you should know why you installed lightdm and used it as loginmanager
[22:06] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Ahh..thanks. So I need to go get the key for each package, from the keyserver for that particular package?
[22:07] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Why have I been getting the error in the first place? AIUI, it's not even for any installed programs, but for the core libraries...?
[22:08] <Bashing-om> Renodef: Basically yeah,, one of 'buntus many reasons it is so secure .. authenticate! The key does that.
[22:09] <optimus_> plz hlp I am new to ubuntu. how to install a "*.tar.gz" file?
[22:09] <Renodef> Bashing-om: OK.. but I'm curious to know what's changed this time round. Because for months now, it's been running and (has an update almost everyday)... to the same packages. So.. is there something I should be concerned about? Some way my system's been corrupted because it no longer has valid keys?
[22:10] <bekks> optimus_: thats an archive. Usually, unpack it, and read the installation instructions carefully. Most likely, you will find a precompiled package in the official repos.
[22:10] <bekks> optimus_: Which tar.gz from where do you talk about?
[22:10] <Apteryx> Is bluetooth activation / deactivation messed up for everyone?
[22:11] <Bashing-om> Renodef: The good news is that it looks like all you need is the one key.
[22:11] <optimus_> acetoneISO6.7.tar.gz
[22:12] <bekks> optimus_: What is that for?
[22:12] <kostkon> !info acetoneiso | optimus_, here it is
[22:12] <Renodef> Bashing-om: I tried sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 8BAF9A6F
[22:12] <optimus_> it's like deamon tools in windows.#bekks
[22:12] <bekks> optimus_: sudo apt-get install acetoneiso
[22:12] <Bashing-om> Renodef: Well, no telling what might have corrupted the .gpg keys, Things do happen, If the link still does not resolve the problem - I have had to delete the key completely and "get" it once more.
[22:13] <Apteryx> I have to to a "sudo hciconfig hci0 up" everytime I want bluetooth enabled after each reboot
[22:13] <bekks> optimus_: OMG. Why should someone need that, when there is "mount -o loop /full/path/to/the.iso /mnt/point"?
[22:13] <kostkon> optimus_, always search in the software centre first
[22:13] <darkblue_b> Q. if i put a directory into /usr/local/lib and then `sudo ldconfig`  are all the subdirs now in the LD path ?
[22:14] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Yeah.. I was just going to paste-bin you with the output of that command suggested in the link. Here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6665274/ Doesn't look like it fixed anything
[22:15] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Still not showing any updates, nor has the list been updated. Still showing "the package list was last updated 6 days ago"..
[22:15] <demophobia> Lizards|Work, this one did, but I'm now using Ubuntu 'cause some registry files or hard drive got corrupted and Startup Repair and System Restore both failed
[22:15] <Bashing-om> Renodef:  NO, you want to get the key with the errors signature "40976EAF437D05B5" You are authtenticating fot THAT sig.
[22:15] <DwarfDefender> what settings i need to alter to tune ubuntu for minimum memory usage per socket, i want test how my server performs with 1kk+ connected sockets, im planning to create multiply ubuntu virtualboxes each creating 65k connections, any hint how i can make them use as little memory as possible?
[22:15] <Bashing-om> Renodef:  fot - *for
[22:15] <Lizards|Work> wat
[22:15] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Ahh.. right. damn. Ok..giving it a whirl now.
[22:16] <bekks> DwarfDefender: Sockets do use 32 or 64 bit, depending on the OS architecture.
[22:16] <bekks> DwarfDefender: Less isnt possible.
[22:17] <optimus_> thnks. #bekks
[22:17] <duelle>  Hi there, I set up kerberos on my vserver and want to be able to use it to log in via ssh. Unfortunately I always get the error "error getting credentials: Server not found in Kerberos database" when trying to log in. Locally it works perfectly, but remotely it fails. I get a token, but the login seems to fail :/
[22:18] <Lizards|Work> check the log?
[22:19] <athene_noctua> houkouonchi-home: boot-repair worked just fine. GRUB will boot Windows 7 and ubuntu. I could've probably done it with grub-install from a shell as well.
[22:20] <darkblue_b> DwarfDefender: sounds interesting.. but, there are VM images made just for that.. probably better than Ubuntu as clients.. just pick one that is debian based
[22:20] <darkblue_b> .. made to be small VMs
[22:20] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Damn..no joy. Still getting this. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6665296/ My trusted keys repository is the default one.
[22:20] <bekks> darkblue_b: The size of the vm doesnt affect the RAM usage of sockets.
[22:20] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Trusted sources repository (the tab in the update manager GUI)
[22:20] <bekks> darkblue_b: Neither it does affect the customized configuration of the webserver running.
[22:21] <Bashing-om> Renodef: looking at -296.
[22:21] <darkblue_b> you can nit pick if you want bekks but basically you can use less RAM with a VM that is made for that, than a generic Ubuntu
[22:22] <bekks> darkblue_b: Thats not nitpicking at all - planning to use 1kk+ connections, I dont think he is using a generic Ubuntu.
[22:24] <haruto>  hi
[22:24] <haruto>   how install ubuntugnome in gnome3.10 polish language, i download and install language in repo, but not view polish language in setting ?
[22:24] <haruto> not view language list http://www.editer.pl/publikuj/cf863834b41fc292d278d90d13787f83_1.jpg/
[22:24] <haruto>  not worked, view http://www.editer.pl/publikuj/537f412160f08683d38f50dc44754684_1.jpg/
[22:24] <FloodBot1> haruto: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:25] <haruto> fuck
[22:25] <Lizards|Work> language
[22:25] <haruto>  hi
[22:25] <haruto>   how install ubuntugnome in gnome3.10 polish language, i download and install language in repo, but not view polish language in setting ?
[22:25] <haruto> not view language list http://www.editer.pl/publikuj/cf863834b41fc292d278d90d13787f83_1.jpg/
[22:25] <haruto>  not worked, view http://www.editer.pl/publikuj/537f412160f08683d38f50dc44754684_1.jpg/
[22:25] <haruto>  i'm edited sudo gedit /etc/locale.conf
[22:25] <FloodBot1> haruto: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:25] <haruto> ok http://paste.ubuntu.com/6665333/
[22:25] <haruto> heh
[22:26] <TJ-> DwarfDefender: Use LXC (which uses Linux cgroups and namespaces for lightweight vm/chroot hybrids)
[22:26] <Guest86382> if you're not seeing all the available languages then you probably need to re-install the language packs
[22:27] <Guest86382> @haruto
[22:27] <darkblue_b> ok - regarding LDPATH, the answer seems to be NO, I have to add the lib in the subdir of a /usr/local/lib explicitly
[22:27] <idueppe> Hi, for what is the space between two partition is used if using mdadm?
[22:28] <haruto> heh
[22:28] <haruto> it is very bad
[22:30] <haruto>  bug is in distro ubuntugnome,
[22:30] <john_doe_jr> when a filesystem is of the type "extended"..how do I mount it?  what type would it be in the "mount -t ntfs /dev/sda2 /media" command?
[22:30] <gvo> john_doe_jr: You don't mount extended
[22:31] <llutz> john_doe_jr: extended is a partition-type, not a filesystem
[22:31] <gvo> You can only mount primary or logical.
[22:31] <llutz> john_doe_jr: that partition holds logical drives with filesystems you mount
[22:31] <Bashing-om> Renodef: This "gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found" bothers me greatly, show me: sudo apt-key finger <-, see if we can get to the bottom of this.
[22:33] <Renodef> Bashing-om: ~$ sudo apt-key finger <- bash: -: No such file or directory
[22:33] <Renodef> (bash onwards was on the next line)
[22:34] <Bashing-om> Renodef: , WELL, that do explain a lot, huh .. That dirctory must exit. Let me ponder on what to do, back soonest,
[22:34] <darkblue_b> .. by addng an entry to /etc/ld.so.conf.d/ perhaps
[22:34] <john_doe_jr> gvo: alright I've got this external drive that I reformatted as a Exfat and now I can't access it..any ideas how I can reformat it so it can be mounted on my mac and windows machines?
[22:35] <gvo> john_doe_jr: No idea.  I don't do mac.
[22:35] <john_doe_jr> gvo: I'm in Ubuntu though
[22:35] <john_doe_jr> gvo: the "lsusb" command shows that device is connected
[22:35] <Renodef> Bashing-om: haha.. thanks. I assume simply copying those files (if there is indeed some ftp server that hosts all these things - a la svn) won't work?
[22:36] <gvo> john_how big is it?
[22:36] <john_doe_jr> gvo: it's 160 GB
[22:39] <Bashing-om> Renodef: Let's find the files that are missing< in your -296 pastebin, 2nd line are the files that were written, For all 3 do: ls -la /etc/apt/trustdb.gpg : as the first one. see what files is missing.
[22:39] <gvo> Sorry I don't have an answer.  Fat32 partitions are limited to 32 GB.  That's the only one I know for sure can be read on all three systems, but again, i know nothing about apple
[22:41] <Darkangel> Hey just woundering if ya host a IRC Chat line does it get hosted from ur computer or server?
[22:41] <llutz> gvo: there is no 32GB limit for fat32, windows just refuses to format partition bigger than that to fat32
[22:41] <john_doe_jr> gvo: well, what is the process that it goes through when I connect it…I mean…I see it connecting through the usb using the "lsusb" command…I see all the mounts using the "mount" command but I just don't know where to go from there to troubleshoot this problem
[22:41] <gvo> OK
[22:42] <kostkon> Darkangel, if you mean your own channel, then on the server
[22:42] <Renodef> Bashing-om: OK.. but while waiting, I used another command suggested on the link you gave me. Paste-bin here - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6665421/
[22:42] <Darkangel> k
[22:43] <Bashing-om> Renodef: Looking at your -421 .
[22:43] <gvo> john_doe_jr: pastebin  the output of sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdX where sdX is the device.
[22:44] <john_doe_jr> gvo: how do I know which sdX device it is though
[22:45] <gvo> john_doe_jr: run dmesg | tail
[22:45] <Bashing-om> Renodef: OK, looks better anyway, what now results with update and upgrade ?
[22:45] <te> john_doe_jr: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit #Show us resulting URl, we will look and see.
[22:45] <gvo> john_doe_jr: after plugging it in.  It should tell you about the disk.  Even give you the partitions it found.
[22:46] <gvo> Or that
[22:47] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Started up the GUI from the terminal with "update-manager" and clicked check. No change. When I executed the terminal commands in -421, I didn't read the outputs, but now reading the post, I notice that "No ultimately trusted keys found" bit is still there.
[22:47] <te> john_doe_jr: (sudo fdisk -l  #Will show all drives and thier partitions.)
[22:47] <john_doe_jr> te: k…just a sec
[22:48] <john_doe_jr> te: alright…here is the output of sudo fsidk -l => http://pastebin.com/XdvRBxX1
[22:48] <Bashing-om> Renodef: I am guessing that it for "google-chrome" ??
[22:50] <g0tcha> hey guys, i have an ubuntu server that gets stuck in the GNU GRUB till i manually click Enter to boot. It doesnt automatically boots to he default ubuntu with linux generic anymore
[22:50] <john_doe_jr> te: is it /dev/sda2?
[22:50] <g0tcha> anyone know what coulc cause this?
[22:50] <gvo> john_doe_jr: No it's not there at all.
[22:50] <john_doe_jr> g0tcha: i'd re-install grub
[22:51] <gvo> john_doe_jr: Huh?
[22:51] <john_doe_jr> sorry talking to another user
[22:51] <g0tcha> why do i need to reinstall grub john_doe_jr?
[22:51] <Renodef> Bashing-om: huh? Didn't get what you meant by your last comment. What about google-chrome?
[22:51] <feneco> hey
[22:51] <gvo> john_doe_jr: Sorry.  Unplug your drive, plug it back in and pastebin the last 30 lines of dmesg output.
[22:52] <john_doe_jr> gvo: alright…just a sec
[22:52] <bekks> g0tcha: you dont have to. Just edit the grub configuration and run update-grub
[22:52] <feneco> i installed ubuntu 13.10 on my laptop but unity dash seems very laggy when opening
[22:52] <feneco> someone having the same issue?
[22:52] <Lizards|Work> i didn't have an enjoyable unity experience until i got on a really powerful machine >.>
[22:53] <te> john_doe_jr: What size drive did you say it was?  (Don't think it's showing up there.)
[22:53] <Lizards|Work> core2duo with 4gb of ram didn't like unity
[22:53] <feneco> its a i3-2120 / 4GB RAM
[22:53] <Lizards|Work> core i7 with 16gb of ram loves it
[22:53] <bekks> feneco: More likely, the graphics card is in question.
[22:53] <feneco> lol
[22:53] <gvo> te he said 160 GB
[22:53] <feneco> hd3000 can't handle unity then?
[22:53] <feneco> smoothly?
[22:53] <john_doe_jr> gvo: here is the output of the command, "dmesg | tail -n 30" command => http://pastebin.com/y2RsJ7qJ
[22:53] <Bashing-om> g0tcha: Maybe a timeout is not set in /etc/default/grub ? see:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 <- for an explanation/how.
[22:54] <Lizards|Work> hd3000 is the inbuilt HD core on the i3?
[22:55] <te> gvo: Yea, that's what I thought.
[22:55] <Calinou> Lizards|Work, not all i3s have the same IGP
[22:55] <Calinou> but some of them do have a HD 3000
[22:55] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Oh.. I do have a 10s timeout for Grub. The default OS loaded is Ubuntu. (I've also got a Windows XP installation on here)
[22:55] <Calinou> some have HD 2500, some 4000, some 4600... depends on generation and on whether they are low or high end i3s
[22:55] <Bashing-om> Renodef: I noticed that "W: GPG error: http://dl.google.com stable Release: " .. maybe run the key import for that signature also ?
[22:55] <Lizards|Work> tomato potato, it's still onboard graphics not discrete ;)
[22:56] <Calinou> they are onboard yes
[22:56] <feneco> my i3 has hd3000
[22:56] <feneco> its sandy bridge
[22:56] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Also, I ran ls -la for those files (there are only 2 btw, discounting the tmp file... in the -296 paste the last two files are the same... trusted.gpg). Anyway... they both have read-write permissions.
[22:56] <Calinou> I have HD3000 too, but I use a discrete card
[22:56] <feneco> i thought it could handle unity well but...
[22:56] <Lizards|Work> my i3 has... let me look
[22:57] <gvo> john_doe_jr: It's not seeing the device as a hard drive.  By any chance did dmesg give you any output after what you pasted?
[22:57] <Calinou> Lizards|Work, lspci | grep VGA
[22:57] <feneco> this lag when opening dash is ugly :(
[22:57] <Calinou> or, install phoronix-test-suite and do "phoronix-test-suite system-info"
[22:57] <gvo> john_doe_jr: Like maybe it took a while to settle down.
[22:57] <knoppies|work> hi, when the /var/log/dpkg.log file has the line "upgrade mysql-server 5.5.31-0ubuntu0.12.04.2 5.5.34-0ubuntu0.12.04.1" does that mean it is going from 5.5.31-0ubuntu0.12.04.2 ->  5.5.34-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 or the other way around? (notice how 34 is newer than 31 BUT 12.04.1 is OLDER than 12.04.2)
[22:57] <shin_> man i just updated 12.04 and i can't get gui to work now :(
[22:57] <Lizards|Work> Calinou, it's at home
[22:58] <Lizards|Work> this one here's irrelevant, it's a core i7-3770k
[22:58] <te> shin_: What seems to be the problem?
[22:58] <bekks> knoppies|work: It went from 5.5.31 to 5.5.34
[22:58] <shin_> startx from term hangs
[22:58] <YellowBadger> does anyone know how to remove the device "floppy disk". I get error messages about that all the time "Failed to mount floppy disk"
[22:58] <ChickenBrain> hehe, unity is consuming too much CPU / Graphic... so back to some "normal boring" window manager and all fine
[22:58] <knoppies|work> shin_ have you looked at (or tried to regenerate) the x11 config files?
[22:58] <ChickenBrain> jeez... I am old style
[22:58] <john_doe_jr> I don't see any additional information that is different from the paste bin…I really feel like if I could just reformat the drive to something ubuntu would recognize it would work…
[22:59] <knoppies|work> bekks, thank you, so does the 12.04.* mean nothing?
[22:59] <bekks> knoppies|work: Correct.
[22:59] <feneco> what irc client do you use?
[22:59] <knoppies|work> bekks, thank you.
[22:59] <Lizards|Work> huh
[22:59] <Lizards|Work> it's a core i3-530
[22:59] <john_doe_jr> any ideas how I can fix this?
[22:59] <feneco> Lizards|Work: how unity works in your i3-530?
[22:59] <Lizards|Work> but i can't find the "hd graphics" number
[23:00] <Lizards|Work> lol
[23:00] <gvo> It says it's an FX2 device.  Which make little sense to me.
[23:00] <Lizards|Work> unity at home? nope. windows 7.
[23:00] <bekks> Lizards|Work: lspci | grep VGA
[23:00] <feneco> lol D:
[23:00] <feneco> why not unity at home?
[23:00] <Bashing-om> Renodef: Right now then,-> sudo apt-key finger <- should return all the keys !.. If not wegot problems !
[23:00] <john_doe_jr> What is an FX2 device?…what does that mean?
[23:00] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Ah.. I know what you mean know. I think the google-chrome related key is A0408... (I've run the key import for it already... it's show in -421)
[23:01] <te> john_doe_jr: I don't see information about it either.
[23:01] <Renodef> Bashing-om: alright.. yeah..it does return something this time. Phew. You want to have a look?
[23:01] <gvo> john_doe_jr: It's some sort of strange 8051 USB chip.
[23:01] <john_doe_jr> te: well, I found this -> http://www.cypress.com/?app=forum&id=167&rID=43830
[23:01] <gvo> according to google.
[23:01] <whatisthematrix> shin_: perhaps you need a new /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. maybe someone knows how to generate a new one. i used to know until the way to do it changed so many times. you can also look at the log file to see if you can tell anything --> less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:02] <john_doe_jr> cypress is the id of the usb when I connect it as well when I run the "lsusb" command
[23:02] <gvo> What's the brand name of the drive?
[23:02] <bekks> john_doe_jr: Plug it in and pastebin sudo fdisk -l along with dmesg please.
[23:02] <gvo> bekks he already has
[23:02] <Renodef> Bashing-om: here's the output of the fingerprint - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6665513/
[23:03] <gvo> bekks two different pastebins
[23:03] <feneco> php on ubuntu is outdated, what to do? i have to wait the updates from repositories?
[23:03] <gvo> Look back or I'll repost them if you don't have history.
[23:04] <bekks> gvo: then please repost them, I cant find them in the history.
[23:04] <john_doe_jr> gvo: just a sec…I'll get it
[23:04] <gvo> OK
[23:04] <Bashing-om> Renodef: Naw, no need to look yet.. OK,, let's do this, reboot the system, just because.. and let's get a fresh output of the update and upgrade commands, see then where we stand.
[23:04] <gvo> john_doe_jr: let bekks take a look.
[23:05] <john_doe_jr> bekks: alright => "dmesg | tail" => http://pastebin.com/y2RsJ7qJ …."sudo fdisk -l" => http://pastebin.com/XdvRBxX1
[23:05] <rcw2> if im in sudo mode with sudo -i, does using kdesudo still work
[23:06] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Haha.. ok. I guess I'll have to come back to the chat-room then. Back in five.
[23:06] <Bashing-om> g0tcha: Beats me then why one can boot when the kernel is selected, and not other wise. You might read the link, and change some paremeters and see what results ( make a backup 1st !).
[23:07] <bekks> gvo: john_doe_jr: I'd second the approach of getting that FX2 device working, I havent heard of those devices until now.
[23:07] <glitsj16> feneco: either wait or look at adding a PPA .. what are you looking for exactly?
[23:07] <skorzen> Hello everyone
[23:07] <whatisthematrix> hi
[23:07] <g0tcha> Bashing-om, thats a bit advance for me.. im still learning about ubuntu
[23:08] <user82> hi. i removed my hdd and re--installed it. now the UEFI boot option is gone. is there a way to restore it easily?
[23:08] <skorzen> I am having a network issue with an Hyper-V guest
[23:08] <skorzen> Tested 12.04 and 13.10 Server
[23:08] <skorzen> no luck
[23:08] <gvo> dinner time.. Bye
[23:08] <skorzen> I can ping a machine in another VLAN
[23:08] <skorzen> from Ubuntu
[23:08] <skorzen> but not the opposite
[23:08] <skorzen> ufw is off
[23:09] <skorzen> routes are ok
[23:09] <skorzen> anything else to check?
[23:09] <feneco> glitsj16: its the php version...
[23:09] <feneco> ubuntu has 5.5.3 and php has 5.5.7
[23:10] <glitsj16> feneco: what version of ubuntu are you running on?
[23:13] <te> skorzen: Can you re-phrase your question? (And keep to one post.)
[23:13] <lg_> ciao
[23:13] <lg_> !list
[23:13] <te> skorzen: (don't use the Enter key for puncuation.)
[23:13] <skorzen> te: sorry.
[23:14] <Renodef> Bashing-om: You there? Just restarted... and I've added update-manager to startup applications... and still no joy (clicked check on the GUI)
[23:14] <te> *punctuation
[23:15] <skorzen> I have an Ubuntu machine on one VLAN, and a Windows machine on another VLAN. From Ubuntu I can ping Windows, but not the opposite.
[23:15] <skorzen> If I change both machines from VLAN and IP addresses, then I can ping from both sides.
[23:16] <skorzen> ufw is disabled, and I've also disabled AppArmor just to be sure, but no luck.
[23:16] <lg_> list
[23:16] <te> skorzen: I suppose it would depend on the subnet and netmask
[23:17] <Lizards|Work> ^
[23:17] <skorzen> te: VLAN 5 = 10.172.5.x and VLAN 10 = 10.172.42.x
[23:17] <skorzen> mask is always /24
[23:17] <skorzen> Problem is that if try to reach other machine, which is not Ubuntu, I can successfully ping.
[23:18] <Bashing-om>  g0tcha: Do us a pastebin of your /etc/default/grub file .. lemme see as a place to start this.
[23:18] <te> skorzen: So what about the netmask?
[23:18] <g0tcha> Bashing-om, alright, gimme a second
[23:18] <te> skorzen: 255.255.255.0 vs 255.255.0.0
[23:19] <skorzen> te: I am not understanding, sorry. Could you explain?
[23:19] <GeekShad1w> hello
[23:19] <skorzen> Different VLAN's.
[23:19] <g0tcha> Bashing-om, here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/6665573/
[23:19] <te> skorzen: http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/n/netmask.htm
[23:19] <GeekShad1w> where can I find the matching linux-source for 3.13 ?
[23:19] <GeekShad1w> for reference http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/linux-source-3.12.0
[23:20] <bekks> GeekShad1w: There is none, until now.
[23:20] <Bashing-om> Renodef: Yeh I am still here, need to see what the latest update attempt has to say - to keep ky mind straight.
[23:20] <xangua> kernel.org
[23:20] <bekks> 3.13 isnt released yet. And they do not ship ubuntu packages.
[23:20] <Bashing-om>  g0tcha: riger waiting.
[23:20] <Renodef> Bashing-om: haha.. Well, like I said. No change. I ran sudo apt-get update
[23:21] <te> skorzen: http://www.unixwiz.net/techtips/netmask-ref.html
[23:21] <skorzen> te: I know that. But I have other machines on the same VLAN that are reachable.
[23:21] <skorzen> Just Ubuntu isn't.
[23:22] <FuuqUmiist> does the NSA's SELinux, which has been integrated into the Linux kernel that Ubuntu uses, have a backdoor for the NSA?
[23:22] <te> skorzen: As far as networking is concerned, I don't know why there would be a difference.
[23:22] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Pastebin - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6665592/
[23:22] <g0tcha> Bashing-om, i dont understand what riger stands for?
[23:23] <skorzen> te: yeah, I know. That's why this is strange.
[23:23] <skorzen> te: and also, since iptables is disabled. There is no reason for this to happen, right?
[23:24] <brunini_> hi
[23:24] <te> skorzen: netstat -an |grep LISTEN |less   #Will tell you what ports you are listening on.
[23:24] <Sia-> hi, i have HP 250 with ubuntu Preinstalled from HP self., everything work fine, but suspend or resume after closing the laptop get Blank screen. her is my Graphic http://paste.ubuntu.com/6665605/
[23:25] <rcw2> if im in sudo mode with sudo -i, does using kdesudo still work
[23:25] <skorzen> te: sure, but ICMP does not fit on that.
[23:25] <Sia-> do u know any fix or modification for this issue?
[23:25] <te> skorzen: netstat -pantu  #May also show useful info.
[23:25] <lgpb> ciao
[23:25] <lgpb> !list
[23:25] <knoxy> Hi all. I'm trying to boot my ubuntu after kernel upgrade and I get message kernel panic "Cannot open root device unknown-block(0,0)". Is possible to restore this installation?
[23:26] <bekks> knoxy: To which kernel did you upgrade to, some custom kernel?
[23:26] <bekks> knoxy: And is it a vps?
[23:26] <Bashing-om> g0tcha: Yout grub file looks fine to me. I do not know where else to look to resolve the "no time out".
[23:27] <te> skorzen: nmap -p0  if it won't ping
[23:27] <knoxy> bekks is not a custom kernel, is a 3.8.0 generic...
[23:27] <knoxy> bekks, no, is a dedicated computer
[23:28] <Bashing-om> g0tcha: riger .. *roger, typo, sorry.
[23:28] <te> skorzen You can run nmap against your own IP.
[23:30] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Any ideas?
[23:31] <Cheryl_c> I am a total newbie to ubuntu. Just installed version 13.10 and can't find a terminal interface. Also, how do I install chromium browser?
[23:32] <thom_r> Cheryl_c ctrl+alt+T will open the terminal
[23:33] <thom_r> to install Chromium, open the software center and search for it
[23:33] <Sia-> ok no idea about my issue?
[23:34] <lukecarrier> Anyone here familiar with UEFI? I think the docs on the wiki may need tweaking slightly, but would appreciate clarification
[23:34] <Bashing-om> Renodef: Is the Package manager still hollering about key "40976EAF437D05B5" ?? If so got something in mind.
[23:34] <Cheryl_c> thom_r: Thanks.
[23:35] <Renodef> Bashing-om: yeah.. and the other two keys too.
[23:35] <thom_r> Cheryl_c not a problem
[23:35] <thom_r> let me know if you have any more problems
[23:35] <Cheryl_c> When I open the software center it says that Chromium is installed but I can't find it or don't know how to launch it
[23:36] <Lizards|Work> alt+f2
[23:36] <Lizards|Work> chromium
[23:37] <Renodef> Bashing-om: I was in the process of installing the Y-PPA Manager (the first suggestion on the link you sent), but stopped after simply adding the PPA to the repository since it was asking of the installation of unauthenticated packages (dependencies)
[23:37] <Cheryl_c> Lizards|Work: Thanks, found chromium and made it the default browser
[23:38] <Cheryl_c> quit
[23:41] <Bashing-om> Renodef: Ok, Lets do this:sudo apt-key del <A_Key> (each for the offending keys) , sudo apt-get update ->>You should get a NO_PUBKEY error instead of a BADSIG error and, Now do:sudo apt-key finger ->>should not find the key (called "Ubuntu Extras Archive Automatic Signing Key")
[23:41] <falcom> Silly question, but does the amazon 'adware' still a problem in the new ubuntu desktop ?
[23:41] <nobriel> I say YES :(
[23:42] <xangua> !adlens | falcom
[23:42] <Bashing-om> Renodef: My last to be continued ! when you reach that point.
[23:42] <pr1x0> #openrce
[23:43] <nobriel> Do you know if it's possible to run Ubuntu Edge on my samsung galaxy S3???
[23:43] <yeats> !phone | nobriel
[23:43] <falcom> another silly question, what's the to-go version: 12.04LTS or 13.10?
[23:43] <xangua> !touch | nobriel
[23:43] <nobriel> yeyeye 8) sorry
[23:43] <Bashing-om> Renodef: Well as to installing .. no can do until we get the package manager fixed for the authetication issues. Awaiting a go ahead from "finger" to go on.
[23:44] <yeats> falcom: unless you have a need for super stable software, 13.10 (but 13.10 is solid - for me anyway)
[23:45] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Just a minute..
[23:50] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Right...roger all. The finger lists Ubuntu CD Automatic Signing Key, Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key (2012), Ubuntu CD Automatic Signing Key (2012), Launchpad PPA for Pelle van der Scheer, Launchpad VLC
[23:54] <Bashing-om> Renodef: Now (re)add the keys ->sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <keys> - one at a time. Now, "sudo apt-key finger" should show the new keys. .. Ok, now update/upgrade. And let's see !
[23:55] <Renodef> Bashing-om: Alright.. Will ping with results.
[23:56] <Renodef> Bashing-om: I added A040830F7FAC5991 that way.. but it's still saying no ultimately trusted keys found.
[23:57] <Bashing-om> Renodef: Did you add all three keys prior to "updateing" ?
[23:58] <Renodef> Bashing-om: I didn't update.
[23:58] <Renodef> I just ran that line of code, with the keys
[23:59] <Renodef> Bashing-om: This was PRIOR to sudo apt-get update. e.g.. -> sudo apt-key adv recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 16126D3A3E5C1192